Summary:
Talk about the Constellations and how they testify of Yeshua and His Mission. How the Stars have the name Yeshua in them. Saw some quotes from Brigham Young how he stated he started polygamy not Joseph Smith. Reworded Alma (LDS 30:44) (RLDS 16:53-55). Talked about the Polar Configuration some.
Links:
- Time Out – Sting of the Scorpion: Constellations, Mazzaroth, Zodiac, Stars
- The Great Mazzaroth Part 1
- REGULAR
- FORM
- Polar Configuration
- The Ancient Skies and Symbolism: 1 Minute intro
- Symbols of an Alien Sky (Full Documentary)
- The Bow and The Harp: Regarding the movement of the crescent
- Bishops are JUDGEs of Israel
Notes:
Alma (LDS 30:44) (RLDS 16:53-55) … all things denote there is a God; yea, even the EARTH, and all things that are upon the face of IT, yea, and ITS MOTION, yea, and also all the PLANETS [stars/constellations] which move in their REGULAR [original] FORM [shape] do witness that there is a Supreme Creator.
Transcript:
00:00:00 so one thing interesting oh
00:00:03 okay so one thing as we’re talking about
00:00:05 the nazareth and how you just brought up
00:00:06 you know with the what you just said
00:00:09 here i’m going to get something from
00:00:14 mosiah i think it’s chapter three or
00:00:16 four and we can look at it that i think
00:00:18 relates to this
00:00:19 um which is uh
00:00:23 there’s a couple part there’s a little
00:00:25 tricky part in there
00:00:26 but i think also has to do with some of
00:00:28 the i don’t know if you looked at the
00:00:30 things with the
00:00:31 inclusive versus exclusive time yet
00:00:34 um i haven’t had time yet okay well we
00:00:37 can go
00:00:38 so we can do whatever you want um
00:00:41 because i know you said
00:00:42 that uh video is kind of bothering you
00:00:45 some
00:00:45 um so we can go over that or we can go
00:00:47 over some other things or we can go over
00:00:49 some
00:00:49 things that i got even got today or
00:00:51 things that you got
00:00:52 whatever you want i’m i’m pretty open
00:00:56 um well if you want to lead i will come
00:00:59 with you because
00:01:00 i enjoy talking about this stuff with
00:01:01 you okay all right well we’re on this
00:01:03 subject so let’s
00:01:04 let’s do this fact here let me
00:01:08 let me first i want to show you this
00:01:09 before we get into some of the other
00:01:10 things because this is
00:01:12 uh this is something god gave me uh last
00:01:15 night was watching these
00:01:17 things um which i think you’ll like
00:01:21 so let me share that screen
00:01:27 yeah okay all right so
00:01:32 alma
00:01:35 i shared a portion of this earlier today
00:01:38 i don’t know if you saw my post about
00:01:40 flat earthers i i did
00:01:43 oh well um so it’s on that same verse
00:01:47 um which i actually don’t remember what
00:01:50 verse number it is
00:01:53 there it is okay um but that’s pretty
00:01:56 good right
00:01:57 um yeah yeah i you know the reason i did
00:02:00 that
00:02:01 is there’s people who claim to believe
00:02:03 the book of mormon
00:02:04 and and believe in the flat earth
00:02:08 in fact um there’s another one here let
00:02:10 me i’m gonna get a little sidetracked
00:02:12 let’s let me show you the other one that
00:02:15 i have
00:02:16 that goes with flat earth from
00:02:19 the book of mormon um oh everybody can
00:02:22 see this is a good quote
00:02:25 this is since it’s on my screen i’ll
00:02:27 just read it real quick
00:02:28 it’s kind of like a nothing to do with
00:02:30 the subject but since it’s here
00:02:32 the incident it’s brigham young telling
00:02:36 um this president u.s president
00:02:39 um that he started
00:02:43 plugging me yeah oh yeah that’s a
00:02:46 wonderful quote
00:02:47 and i have some other ones that go along
00:02:48 with that there um anyway so everybody
00:02:50 can see it
00:02:52 brigham young not joseph smith all right
00:02:54 so
00:02:55 let’s go to it’s funny how when they’re
00:02:58 not telling the truth
00:02:59 their stories have multiple angles and
00:03:02 don’t match each other
00:03:04 oh yeah nothing from brigham young
00:03:07 matches each other
00:03:08 that’s why everybody argues over
00:03:11 with each other about what should be
00:03:13 done is because their statements
00:03:15 contradict each other that even happens
00:03:16 with today lds
00:03:18 leaders yep totally um it’s because
00:03:20 they’re just giving their own personal
00:03:22 opinion and going against scripture but
00:03:24 anyways okay
00:03:24 so just going off this other sidetracked
00:03:27 on flat earth
00:03:29 um here’s a few that i have found myself
00:03:31 here’s the one that i just
00:03:32 you know found um last night
00:03:36 um here’s the one i had before though
00:03:38 and helaman
00:03:40 12 is talking about uh
00:03:43 when the um
00:03:46 earth stood still now
00:03:49 it clarifies in here um more what’s
00:03:53 going on than how it was
00:03:56 observed or or talked about in
00:03:59 in joshua um hebrew language even
00:04:01 english language
00:04:02 it’s less so this way especially with
00:04:04 our hellenistic culture
00:04:06 the hebrew language has to do with how
00:04:09 things look not how they necessarily are
00:04:12 actually working i mean even english is
00:04:14 like that for things that we don’t
00:04:16 understand
00:04:17 like on tons of things
00:04:21 um but anyways yay and if he
00:04:24 say unto the earth move oh wait
00:04:27 it moveth yeah if you see under the
00:04:30 earth thou
00:04:30 shalt go back that it lengthen
00:04:33 out the day for many hours so length go
00:04:37 back that means it moved or
00:04:38 it spinned backwards right to lengthen
00:04:41 out the day
00:04:42 yeah and thus according to his word the
00:04:45 earth goeth back and it appears on
00:04:47 demand that this
00:04:49 that it appeareth on demand that the sun
00:04:52 stands
00:04:52 still which is how it’s recorded in
00:04:54 joshua
00:04:56 yea and behold this is so for sure
00:04:59 the earth that moveth and not the sun
00:05:06 and part of the reason this is um
00:05:11 goes against the flat earth theory is
00:05:13 the flat earth theory says
00:05:15 the earth stays still and the sun and
00:05:18 the moon
00:05:20 are the ones that are moving the earth
00:05:22 does not and this
00:05:23 right here says otherwise and
00:05:27 i know a lot of people that are flat
00:05:29 earthers that believe the book of mormon
00:05:31 when i show them this
00:05:32 they just they they don’t know what to
00:05:34 say there’s like i don’t know what to
00:05:35 say
00:05:36 at least they’re honest about it right
00:05:37 so yeah instead of trying to exp
00:05:39 at least some some are honest some try
00:05:41 to explain it away but
00:05:43 this one shows another one right
00:05:47 the earth and its motion so um
00:05:52 now this goes with the nazareth that
00:05:54 we’re looking into
00:05:56 right now also so um yeah
00:06:00 i’m gonna let me stop sharing that
00:06:01 screen share the other one
00:06:03 and and this is cool um of course
00:06:06 everything i share is cool right
00:06:11 i’m not full of myself of course if i’m
00:06:13 not full of myself who else would i
00:06:15 be full of right who else is in there
00:06:18 yeah
00:06:20 and it’s hard to be motivated to do this
00:06:21 if it’s not fun for you so
00:06:24 yeah well i i want to know the truth um
00:06:28 and so
00:06:32 i i put in the effort okay but then god
00:06:35 gives me things
00:06:36 after i put in the effort this is not me
00:06:38 um but anyways
00:06:40 okay so alma 30 you’re probably aware
00:06:42 this is an
00:06:43 antichrist and he’s asking for signs
00:06:47 yeah and ammo responds thou has signs
00:06:50 enough
00:06:50 will ye tempt your god which you know
00:06:53 that’s
00:06:54 the commandment not to tempt god and
00:06:55 that’s what he’s doing up asking for
00:06:58 will you say show unto me a sign when
00:07:00 you have the testimony
00:07:02 of all thy brother and also the holy
00:07:04 prophets
00:07:05 the scriptures are laid before thee yea
00:07:07 all the things denote that there is a
00:07:09 god all things denote there is a god
00:07:11 oops i don’t like it when they do that
00:07:14 yeah even the earth
00:07:16 and all the things upon the face of it
00:07:19 and this is great and so this part right
00:07:21 here we just talked about and it’s
00:07:23 motion
00:07:25 right that goes against the flat earth
00:07:27 but keep that motion in mind
00:07:30 it’s and yay and also the planets we’ll
00:07:33 talk about
00:07:33 in a minute which move in the regular
00:07:36 form and we’ll talk about both those two
00:07:38 words which do witness that there is a
00:07:39 supreme creator
00:07:40 okay now um i can see if i can find it
00:07:44 but joseph smith has a
00:07:46 has multiple times interchangeably
00:07:51 used planets and stars
00:07:57 so what i’m getting at i’m gonna change
00:08:00 this a little bit going off of what
00:08:02 joseph smith did okay yay
00:08:06 the earth and its motion yay also
00:08:09 the stars or constellations
00:08:13 right which move in their regular
00:08:18 now we can look up regular and i haven’t
00:08:19 done this yet because i actually got
00:08:20 this
00:08:21 this morning or when i should have been
00:08:24 sleeping
00:08:26 so i haven’t looked at the dictionary
00:08:27 yet so we can do this together but
00:08:29 regular i i’m going to change to
00:08:33 original and we can maybe get into the
00:08:36 details in that in a minute
00:08:38 form instead of form and put shape
00:08:43 witness that their supreme creator so
00:08:46 the constellations
00:08:50 in their original shape witness that
00:08:53 there’s a seam
00:08:54 supreme creator which is something we’ve
00:08:56 been looking into
00:08:57 now now this is interesting now the
00:09:00 earth’s
00:09:01 motion also along with that
00:09:05 testifies that there’s the creator now
00:09:07 it’s interesting like we just talked
00:09:08 about
00:09:09 just before the recorded sorry aries
00:09:13 is the sign that we’d be in
00:09:16 during passover and that sign is about
00:09:20 passover yeah where virgo
00:09:24 is and i know people disagree with me
00:09:28 but christ was born in the fall the book
00:09:30 of mormon says that too
00:09:32 in mosaic two through five and we can
00:09:34 look at that you want but virgo is when
00:09:36 the fall
00:09:38 and virgo virgin which is a bad
00:09:41 translation from
00:09:42 alma i i’m probably saying that
00:09:46 a-l-m-a-h so not alma like
00:09:49 it was just talking but um
00:09:52 a.m a-l-m-a-h and we can look at it i
00:09:56 can
00:09:56 have notes on that if you want but
00:09:59 a better translation is a woman of
00:10:03 birth giving age or child bearing age
00:10:07 and virgo is a a woman with a child that
00:10:11 was just
00:10:12 born child bearing age
00:10:16 yeah um and so i just think that’s
00:10:20 wonderful and this is one i know i just
00:10:24 mentioned it but i’m going to say it
00:10:25 again now
00:10:26 i need to look at cancer
00:10:29 because that’s when i believe when
00:10:31 shaviot pentecost will be
00:10:33 to see if its signs go along
00:10:37 during that time because
00:10:40 job brings out how these stars are used
00:10:44 to tell the
00:10:45 seasons and this the new year
00:10:48 which is something i’ve always believed
00:10:52 um when i started doing the lunar
00:10:54 sabbath because in genesis what is it 1
00:10:57 14 we can go look it up if you want um
00:11:00 it says
00:11:01 you know the sun moon or stars are for
00:11:03 the
00:11:04 moa d but most of
00:11:07 the lunar sabbaths people or
00:11:10 even those who like to keep the feasts
00:11:14 i hear hardly any of them talking about
00:11:16 the stars
00:11:18 it’s only been recently been starting to
00:11:20 see stuff yeah and for me
00:11:21 one thing when it talks about all things
00:11:23 testify of god
00:11:25 right that idea to have anything that he
00:11:28 specifically created be left
00:11:30 out of the conversation has always felt
00:11:33 empty
00:11:34 that we can’t just be talking about the
00:11:36 sun rising there’s
00:11:37 he created the stars he created right
00:11:39 the shape of the plants and all the
00:11:41 intricacy of
00:11:43 cell structure and so to be diving into
00:11:46 all those things
00:11:46 it’s been really frustrating that the
00:11:49 stars have been kind of
00:11:50 left out for so long so it’s really
00:11:52 interesting to me that now
00:11:54 there’s resources that are showing that
00:11:56 this has always been
00:11:58 testifying of christ in his oh yes
00:12:02 i’m so excited about learning about all
00:12:04 this i feel like i’ve drowned myself in
00:12:06 it and yet
00:12:07 i need to go back and like take notes
00:12:09 and
00:12:10 you know really like connect it in with
00:12:14 the scriptures
00:12:15 and in my study better but i feel like
00:12:17 i’ve done it preliminary
00:12:18 where you know it tastes so good oh yeah
00:12:22 i couldn’t fall asleep because i was
00:12:24 watching that series yeah
00:12:26 um in fact here i’m gonna
00:12:30 make sure i put that in the notes so
00:12:32 others can see it so hold on
00:12:34 i’m gonna put it in the chat
00:12:38 um because i
00:12:41 i saw other connections too that they
00:12:43 helped it helped me out with
00:12:45 um so it it’s good and i haven’t
00:12:49 finished yet and i i want to go deeper
00:12:51 into it as
00:12:52 i get time um because i
00:12:55 so i have a deadline to finish a post
00:12:57 this week
00:12:59 because i believe shouting out is friday
00:13:02 well this when i’m celebrating it is
00:13:04 this coming friday
00:13:06 um because i i’ve said for a while i
00:13:09 don’t know how to tell when the new year
00:13:11 is i still don’t but i think i’m getting
00:13:13 closer with
00:13:14 some of these recent studies but i you
00:13:16 know
00:13:18 time coming but for when i started the
00:13:20 year this year anyways
00:13:21 um shavio it’s on this friday and
00:13:25 the post i want to do it has to do with
00:13:27 torah and
00:13:28 that has to or the law which is that’s a
00:13:30 perfect timing for it so
00:13:32 i i need to finish that this week
00:13:36 it’s easier to study than it is to write
00:13:38 things
00:13:41 i understand anyways
00:13:45 uh well it’s just if oh yeah that
00:13:47 reminds me
00:13:48 um so mosiah two through five
00:13:52 it was given during um the fall
00:13:59 tabernacles and we can go into why i
00:14:02 believe that
00:14:03 is but
00:14:08 the main idea is that the fall
00:14:11 feasts are about
00:14:15 the coming of christ
00:14:18 the coming king
00:14:21 living with him and so we can i don’t
00:14:23 know how much of this you want to go
00:14:25 read and see that we can read the whole
00:14:26 thing and talk about
00:14:28 things um in fact even here offline in
00:14:31 the flocks
00:14:33 for the burnt offerings um
00:14:38 we’re supposed to do that um
00:14:41 of course we can’t right now because we
00:14:42 don’t have the priesthood but
00:14:44 anyways that’s the other subject um but
00:14:48 um where
00:14:51 let me go get my notes
00:14:55 but in torah it states
00:14:59 that
00:15:03 is supposed to be given for
00:15:10 feasted tabernacles um where’s my notes
00:15:13 on that
00:15:16 it’s up above your arrow i see it yeah
00:15:18 there we go
00:15:19 so uh those are some notes i have on
00:15:22 that right now but here here’s some
00:15:23 verses right here it states that those
00:15:25 sacrifices
00:15:26 are for tabernacles
00:15:29 um and so because i know a lot of people
00:15:33 will take this and i mean oh it’s
00:15:35 passover
00:15:37 because the first thing of their flocks
00:15:39 but passover’s not the only one
00:15:42 that does that um and so we we can
00:15:46 go through this but oh i did want to
00:15:48 bring up one
00:15:50 for you that deals with um the gospel
00:15:53 being preached to everyone
00:15:54 so here let me share it again and let me
00:15:57 see if i can
00:16:00 find it i think it’s in three or four
00:16:04 [Music]
00:16:06 um
00:16:13 let’s see let’s try every
00:16:23 okay um so and more advice i undo
00:16:26 the time shall come when the knowledge
00:16:28 of the sabres will spread throughout
00:16:30 every nation kinder tongue and people
00:16:33 um so up here let’s see and the god sent
00:16:37 his holy prophets among all the children
00:16:39 of men
00:16:42 among all the children of men to declare
00:16:44 these things to every kinder nation
00:16:46 tongue and thereby whosoever shall
00:16:48 believe that christ shall come
00:16:50 the same shall receive remission of
00:16:52 their sins rejoice with exceedingly
00:16:54 great joy even as
00:16:55 though he had already come so here
00:17:00 is saying he sent his holy prophets to
00:17:03 come on all the children are men not
00:17:05 not some but all
00:17:08 yeah which i we both know the eldest
00:17:11 church kind of teaches something
00:17:13 different right right well and also that
00:17:16 the prophets are
00:17:17 among so that would mean like
00:17:20 that there’s a lot of prophets oh yeah
00:17:23 they’re in it with the people instead of
00:17:27 that their influences with people but
00:17:28 that they are like
00:17:30 multiple of them spread out yeah
00:17:34 so you’ll you’ll you’ll dig this
00:17:38 uh tanak and um
00:17:42 book of mormon in some other spots um
00:17:45 actually
00:17:48 [Music]
00:17:49 so here’s some great verses from the
00:17:51 book of mormon for you
00:17:54 enos won two exceeding many prophets
00:17:57 um i think that’s more than
00:18:01 15. uh first new fight won
00:18:06 for many profits i
00:18:09 that one could be debatable what that
00:18:11 number is right
00:18:12 anyways um
00:18:16 many profits
00:18:19 many profits many profits so those two
00:18:23 these ones could be somewhat debatable
00:18:25 how many is many but i
00:18:27 personally don’t think 15 means many
00:18:30 but exceedingly
00:18:33 many profits that definitely doesn’t fit
00:18:36 um 15 in my opinion
00:18:39 and then you can come here first kings
00:18:42 18
00:18:42 4. so when jezebel cut off the prophets
00:18:46 of the lord that i can’t say that name
00:18:49 took
00:18:49 a hundred prophets
00:18:54 and hid them by 50 in a cave so that
00:18:57 that’s like what was left over
00:18:59 so this fits this is after jezebel cut
00:19:03 off the prophet’s meaning this cut off
00:19:05 that means killed
00:19:07 um and that it gets into daniel i mean
00:19:10 because
00:19:10 in daniel’s 70 70 week prophecy talks
00:19:13 about how the messiah was cut off it
00:19:15 means killed right yeah i i think this
00:19:18 fits really well with this idea that
00:19:21 we weren’t taught a correct meaning of
00:19:23 what a prophet is
00:19:26 and i remember reading
00:19:29 somewhere or hearing somewhere that you
00:19:32 know the idea is that each of us
00:19:34 could potentially be a prophet
00:19:38 right well he wants us all he actually
00:19:40 god actually wants all of us to be
00:19:42 prophets
00:19:42 in fact um i think is it numbers
00:19:57 oh yeah so this is it so this is numbers
00:20:00 this is
00:20:00 um after moses called
00:20:04 70 to help him out so that way he was
00:20:08 doing everything himself
00:20:10 and those 70s started prophesying but
00:20:12 there were others back in the cap that
00:20:14 started prophesying
00:20:16 and they were gone while moses was gone
00:20:18 with this other group
00:20:19 and someone came to moses said there are
00:20:21 these people prophesying you should tell
00:20:23 them to stop
00:20:25 and moses is like um
00:20:28 everybody should be a prophet yeah
00:20:32 and so i i feel like it would help
00:20:36 a lot especially with all these
00:20:37 discussions about what’s going on in
00:20:38 history
00:20:39 and whether or not certain people are
00:20:41 doing the right thing when they’re
00:20:42 leading an organization
00:20:43 if we just better understood what profit
00:20:46 means
00:20:47 that the intention of god is to have
00:20:50 as many of us who will follow him and
00:20:52 seek his
00:20:54 seekers right there’s there’s a couple
00:20:58 um parts to that because in the book of
00:21:00 revelations which joseph quotes
00:21:02 on this he brings out how a prophet is
00:21:05 someone that has
00:21:07 not a belief a testimony
00:21:10 in jesus christ so
00:21:15 i i i know a lot of churches will go up
00:21:18 and say
00:21:18 people will say i know i don’t know i i
00:21:21 believe
00:21:22 i haven’t seen him i i don’t know i i
00:21:25 strongly believe
00:21:27 but i don’t know and and we can get into
00:21:29 this but the book of mormon has examples
00:21:31 how
00:21:31 seeing is uh knowing
00:21:35 um yeah but so anyways
00:21:38 it i believe i i
00:21:42 don’t know and i know i’ll probably get
00:21:44 some people chew me out for
00:21:46 that wording but i think that wording’s
00:21:49 more scriptural
00:21:50 um than just going up and saying you
00:21:52 know him because you believe in them
00:21:56 and then and then go off and and go
00:21:59 break his commandments um so that
00:22:02 there was it first john ii john um
00:22:06 hold on
00:22:16 [Music]
00:22:19 there we go oh first john 2 thereby
00:22:23 we do know that we know him if we keep
00:22:25 his commandments
00:22:26 and he that saith i know him and keepeth
00:22:29 not his commandments is a liar
00:22:33 and the truth is not in him
00:22:37 but whosoever keeping this command word
00:22:40 in him verily if the
00:22:42 love of god perfected hereby know ye
00:22:45 that ye
00:22:46 are in him and he saith he abide in him
00:22:49 ought himself
00:22:50 also walk as even as he
00:22:53 walked even as he walked
00:22:56 and how did he walk he walked keeping
00:22:59 torah
00:23:02 this is not walk as he taught
00:23:05 or said as he walked
00:23:12 yeah people who say new testament denies
00:23:17 says you don’t need torah today don’t
00:23:19 understand it even
00:23:22 as he walked sorry i’m really
00:23:24 emphasizing that
00:23:26 i’m sorry sorry about that was that your
00:23:29 computer in my computer uh
00:23:32 i don’t know i heard a little feedback
00:23:34 um i just ignored it
00:23:38 all right oh and another thing before i
00:23:41 forget
00:23:42 you’re saying how you feel empty when
00:23:43 you’re only getting part
00:23:45 of the picture i i can understand that
00:23:48 i i like getting the deeper details
00:23:51 myself
00:23:52 but um this also goes along with how
00:23:56 someone
00:23:57 told you that you know joseph smith
00:23:59 didn’t say it so they’re not gonna do it
00:24:02 well we’re supposed to live by
00:24:06 not every word of joseph smith we’re
00:24:08 supposed to live by every word that
00:24:09 cometh out of the mouth of
00:24:12 god that’s right and so that’s
00:24:15 all revelations past
00:24:19 present and future not just
00:24:22 the ones that came through your leader
00:24:24 that
00:24:25 you only want to listen to that’s right
00:24:29 but but all um but call me crazy
00:24:33 maybe i’m wrong on that i don’t think so
00:24:37 um but i
00:24:41 we have to understand it all and keep it
00:24:43 all in mind
00:24:46 to really understand it that that’s
00:24:47 redundant but
00:24:49 the i see
00:24:52 the plan of salvation the scriptures as
00:24:54 a hologram
00:24:56 if you really understand it you’ll see
00:24:59 a faint image of the hole in the one
00:25:02 little piece that you’re looking at
00:25:04 because they’re all so interconnected
00:25:06 with each other
00:25:07 but yeah that’s me
00:25:10 great um
00:25:15 so uh people
00:25:18 learn the nazareth um i started looking
00:25:21 into it
00:25:23 because of my belief in the lunar
00:25:25 sabbath and and the high holidays
00:25:28 and trying to figure out when the year
00:25:31 actually starts and in genesis 1 14 it
00:25:33 says use sun moon and stars
00:25:35 um and i had kind of a slow start
00:25:38 finding things but after a little while
00:25:39 i started
00:25:41 now i have too much so it’ll keep me
00:25:43 busy for
00:25:45 quite a while now um but
00:25:49 this that one i put in the chat
00:25:52 is like really good um and then you can
00:25:56 put the one that you were talking about
00:25:57 earlier the one with the five part
00:25:59 um because that one’s really good too uh
00:26:02 if you have it handy
00:26:04 um
00:26:08 i just i’m gonna put these in the
00:26:10 description
00:26:11 when this goes up on youtube um so
00:26:14 others can
00:26:15 get it but i
00:26:19 i don’t know do you think uh
00:26:25 i was reading into the alma 30 verse or
00:26:27 do you think i was
00:26:28 actually going off of what it was saying
00:26:31 because
00:26:32 i i do try to be careful and i can see
00:26:34 how some people might think i read into
00:26:36 it but i had
00:26:37 reasons for doing what i did oh yeah i
00:26:39 was good we could go look at the
00:26:40 dictionary on some of that stuff
00:26:42 yeah you can do that um i agreed with
00:26:46 you
00:26:46 it felt like that was just
00:26:50 more of a clear i felt like it was just
00:26:53 really clear
00:26:54 i didn’t see any kind of deviation there
00:26:57 yeah i i think it makes sense um some of
00:27:00 that thinking
00:27:01 i i did without actually um
00:27:05 oh are you talking about where you
00:27:06 switched star and planet are you talking
00:27:08 about a different light well yeah the
00:27:09 star in planet i’m not sure about that i
00:27:10 can find the quote from joseph smith
00:27:12 where he interchanged
00:27:13 stars and planets but i was more talking
00:27:16 about because i did
00:27:17 kind of change the word regular and put
00:27:21 original
00:27:22 oh i haven’t thought on that yeah so
00:27:24 let’s i would be really interested in
00:27:26 the definition
00:27:27 of regular because
00:27:30 it’s so similar to the word regulate
00:27:32 which
00:27:33 implies that it’s by design and that
00:27:36 it’s
00:27:37 organized that’s a good point because
00:27:40 that could be
00:27:40 that kind of goes with what i said yeah
00:27:43 absolutely
00:27:44 so it doesn’t mean normal it means that
00:27:46 it’s actually organized
00:27:48 to be that way and so it will stay that
00:27:49 way yeah
00:27:51 oh okay so conformed to a rule agree
00:27:54 with this
00:27:54 established rule sure or law
00:27:57 so that’s kind of like how it was first
00:27:59 put so that kind of goes with the
00:28:01 original
00:28:03 prescribed mode establish customary
00:28:07 forms customary or kind of the custom
00:28:11 before they get perverted right
00:28:14 um governed
00:28:19 oh oh look at this in attending divine
00:28:22 worship
00:28:23 which these are used to deter help
00:28:26 determine
00:28:27 oh and that reminds me so um
00:28:30 i know you’re looking into the lunar
00:28:32 sabbath um so one thing about the lunar
00:28:34 sabbath is the 12 months
00:28:36 right right uh and then each month
00:28:40 has four weeks
00:28:43 plus the the the non-counting days right
00:28:46 um but it’s interesting so the that
00:28:50 series um what was it
00:28:53 scorpion sting of the scorpion i think
00:28:56 it was
00:28:57 um it talks about how
00:29:01 each zodiac has one main
00:29:05 sign and three complementary
00:29:09 so each one has four times
00:29:13 that by 12 you get 48 and like in the
00:29:16 lunar solar
00:29:17 calendar and star i should add that but
00:29:20 anyways
00:29:21 um no one really says that
00:29:25 there’s 48 weeks have you seen how they
00:29:27 calculate deacons
00:29:28 because there’s a i found a long
00:29:32 time ago which whatever that means long
00:29:35 where you could actually instead of
00:29:37 looking at
00:29:38 you were being born under a certain
00:29:40 constellation one of the twelve you
00:29:42 could actually
00:29:42 narrow it down to the deacon and they
00:29:45 actually divide
00:29:47 the month under the constellation by
00:29:49 three so it’s almost like there’s
00:29:51 the ruling concept so aries is the ram
00:29:54 and all of what that represents
00:29:57 so they’re they’re they’re dividing into
00:29:58 three instead of four
00:30:00 yeah but that’s astrology and actually
00:30:04 we’re not supposed to do that um
00:30:07 astrology is a perversion of the
00:30:10 maserath okay
00:30:13 because you’re talking about when we
00:30:14 were born what sign you were born under
00:30:16 that’s just
00:30:17 yeah yeah yeah and people do that to
00:30:20 find out what your future is going to be
00:30:22 and that’s
00:30:23 we’re not supposed to be doing that
00:30:27 well there’s a million different things
00:30:29 that people do with
00:30:30 reading into the stars right but i just
00:30:33 i’m saying the way they organize the
00:30:34 deacons to know like which one’s
00:30:37 over the sky it’s a third of the time
00:30:41 sure sure but what i’m kind of getting
00:30:42 there you’re using a
00:30:44 a bad system and bringing how a bad
00:30:47 system pervert
00:30:48 i mean no but i guess maybe perversion
00:30:51 um but they divide it into three
00:30:54 and i i don’t know if we sh so i haven’t
00:30:58 looked at a star map to see if they
00:31:01 um divide up equally into four
00:31:04 sections so it’s just a thought that i
00:31:06 have okay
00:31:07 because the 48 constellations in the 48
00:31:10 weeks
00:31:11 now is that me just
00:31:14 doing a correlation because the number
00:31:16 is the same or is there really something
00:31:18 there
00:31:19 i don’t know i just find it curious 48
00:31:22 weeks
00:31:23 48 constellations in a year yeah
00:31:26 it’s interesting for sure does it mean
00:31:29 anything i don’t know yet i
00:31:31 i just started looking into that stuff
00:31:34 so i i i don’t have an answer i just
00:31:36 have an observation
00:31:41 okay so this regular geometry well we’re
00:31:44 not dealing
00:31:45 well you know
00:31:48 it may geometry may fit in this case
00:31:51 because it’s up in the skies in
00:31:53 the circle right and that kind of goes
00:31:55 with geometry
00:31:58 a regular figure oh look at that and
00:32:01 like regular form
00:32:02 form is a figure or shape so that so
00:32:05 maybe
00:32:07 is whose sides and angles are equal
00:32:12 as a square cube or equal lateral
00:32:15 triangle
00:32:17 he you know that’s interesting with what
00:32:19 i was just saying about the 48 weeks
00:32:21 yeah and now this is saying a regular
00:32:24 figure slash
00:32:25 possibly form we’re gonna have to go
00:32:27 look at form right
00:32:29 um that’s just curious just the timing
00:32:32 that’s i think worth something i’m gonna
00:32:34 look more into anyways
00:32:37 um instituted or
00:32:40 or initiated according to established
00:32:42 forms or discipline as a regular
00:32:44 physician
00:32:46 uh instituted or initiated that kind of
00:32:48 goes with the original that we were
00:32:50 thinking about uh
00:32:53 methodically orderly
00:32:58 uh indulgence this makes me think of the
00:33:02 catholic system sorry
00:33:04 [Music]
00:33:06 periodical
00:33:09 well periodical because you know there’s
00:33:10 a new one or at least new main one every
00:33:13 every moon give or take right now
00:33:17 because of the
00:33:18 change but used to be when they were
00:33:20 created right
00:33:22 yeah prefer pursued with uniformity or
00:33:26 stead
00:33:28 steadiness huh that i think that would
00:33:30 apply right
00:33:32 belonging to miss sonic order
00:33:36 uh well i don’t think that one applies
00:33:41 i don’t think the monastery applies well
00:33:44 no probably not and not that one okay
00:33:48 so that was interesting those are i
00:33:50 think
00:33:51 and then you had a what word did you
00:33:53 have that you said kind of went with it
00:33:55 too so regulate
00:33:58 like it was established you know
00:34:00 regulated
00:34:05 instead of regular it’s like regulate
00:34:07 well yeah they’re
00:34:08 very elated not to do
00:34:13 another reg word
00:34:17 to adjust by rule method regulate
00:34:20 weights and measures well measures
00:34:24 i mean we’re supposed to use the zodiac
00:34:27 or the mazda
00:34:28 to know the seasons to measure according
00:34:30 to that
00:34:33 yep and so i i
00:34:36 i believe that we’re supposed to be
00:34:39 using these
00:34:40 signs to determine the new year um
00:34:43 i have a couple thoughts on it i i don’t
00:34:46 know if it’s right yet or not but i mean
00:34:50 i do think how in some form of manner it
00:34:53 has to do with these signs
00:34:56 regulate our moral conduct well
00:34:59 that’s interesting because the stars
00:35:02 help because they teach
00:35:03 they’re teaching it in fact i don’t know
00:35:05 if you got to
00:35:07 the video in in that series
00:35:11 but in one of the earlier videos i
00:35:13 talked about how
00:35:14 christ’s name yeshua was in the stars or
00:35:18 is in the star yeah i i heard that
00:35:22 he did which uh that’s one of the
00:35:26 i didn’t know that one so that’s a new i
00:35:27 know a couple places because i don’t
00:35:29 know how much you know this but
00:35:30 one of the beefs that non-believers have
00:35:33 with the book of mormon
00:35:35 is that the book of mormon has yeshua’s
00:35:38 name before he was born
00:35:41 and there’s a couple places in the
00:35:42 tanakh that actually has it that
00:35:44 people just don’t study and know where
00:35:46 they are but this is a new one
00:35:48 this one’s in the stars from from
00:35:52 adam and so it really just like
00:35:57 you just are finding something to argue
00:36:00 with
00:36:00 because you just don’t know how things
00:36:03 are
00:36:04 yeah um just just like the the guy with
00:36:07 that video arguing against the lunar
00:36:09 sabbath
00:36:12 calendar because he was doing exclusive
00:36:16 time but hebrew time
00:36:18 is inclusive and he’s just using his own
00:36:21 false ideas
00:36:22 to show that something’s true is false
00:36:28 um okay anyways to put an order to
00:36:32 yeah i i that kind of goes with this
00:36:33 right to subject
00:36:35 rules restrictions
00:36:39 well i don’t think that one applies too
00:36:40 much um
00:36:42 and then the other one was form i think
00:36:45 it
00:36:46 was so shape
00:36:49 uh or external appearance of a body
00:36:53 that goes along with the constellations
00:36:57 arranging particulars yeah that would go
00:37:00 with the
00:37:01 constellation a model yep
00:37:04 pattern
00:37:06 [Music]
00:37:07 i don’t know how drought would do that
00:37:09 but maybe that’s a real old word that i
00:37:10 don’t know what that means
00:37:12 back then because i think that is uh
00:37:16 not having water i i think they mean
00:37:18 like
00:37:19 past tense like drawn
00:37:23 that could be that could be an old way
00:37:26 of saying
00:37:26 that maybe anyways um
00:37:31 i don’t think the beauty one would go
00:37:34 with that one
00:37:35 you don’t think the splendor of his plan
00:37:38 the beauty of his plan
00:37:40 well okay so the plan is beauty so i
00:37:42 would okay i can go with that because
00:37:44 the stars do have this plan
00:37:45 so i i’ll i can see that one now that
00:37:48 you bring that one out
00:37:50 um i didn’t see it at first oh look
00:37:53 regularity
00:37:56 external appearance
00:38:00 oh rachel that goes along
00:38:04 because the the high holidays
00:38:08 are helped determined by these things so
00:38:10 that you know
00:38:12 public forms of worship sorry what’d you
00:38:14 say the prescribed mode
00:38:16 so the different seasons of the history
00:38:18 of the earth
00:38:19 and the people on it it’s prescribed how
00:38:22 this
00:38:23 story is going to play out right so
00:38:26 that’s one of the beautiful things about
00:38:28 the stars just talking about
00:38:31 stuff that is currently happening but
00:38:33 you can see
00:38:34 what’s coming yeah in one of the videos
00:38:36 and he talked about a couple examples of
00:38:39 that
00:38:39 um there’s probably more in that i was
00:38:42 thinking more longs of the high holidays
00:38:45 because of the ritual part but what
00:38:47 you’re bringing out is true
00:38:48 also yeah um ceremony yeah there’s
00:38:52 ceremonies that go along with
00:38:54 these the seasons that they determined
00:38:57 um determined or no stiffness
00:39:01 shape likeness
00:39:05 uh govern form of government um
00:39:08 yeah because it’s governing when we
00:39:10 should um do the high holidays
00:39:13 yep in fact the numbers 12
00:39:16 and 24 have to do with uh government
00:39:18 that’s why there’s the
00:39:20 the 12 apostles because they’re getting
00:39:22 them into the government
00:39:24 and then the 24 with the ones on the um
00:39:30 with the lehighs because there’s the the
00:39:33 12
00:39:33 and the 24 together anyways
00:39:36 yeah um component
00:39:40 part yeah manner of arrangement of
00:39:42 component parts yeah that goes with the
00:39:44 constellations
00:39:48 a long seat a bench without a
00:39:52 back i don’t see how that one applies
00:39:54 and i don’t get that one at all
00:39:59 oh apparently a rank of students i would
00:40:02 have never guessed that one
00:40:04 i don’t know my dictionary
00:40:09 let’s see or okay
00:40:13 a mole oh okay like just goes along with
00:40:16 shape
00:40:17 yeah uh putting things together composed
00:40:21 how they’re put together
00:40:22 that could apply right
00:40:31 oh to make her closet exist god created
00:40:34 them
00:40:36 that’s right to shape or mold okay
00:40:40 to plan oh look at that
00:40:45 that might i wouldn’t have put that with
00:40:47 form but that makes sense
00:40:51 and like you said it has its pl his plan
00:40:54 in the stars
00:40:56 to arrange i wouldn’t go with adjust
00:41:02 and this in this context anyway
00:41:04 contrived
00:41:08 well god invented them invented them so
00:41:11 maybe
00:41:14 to to make he made them
00:41:18 frame settle to okay make the shape
00:41:23 discipline
00:41:24 [Music]
00:41:26 combine yeah multiple stars
00:41:30 make establish
00:41:36 sure constitute
00:41:41 well not grammar in that okay anyways i
00:41:44 am
00:41:45 i don’t know another word to look up um
00:41:50 i can see if i can find the quote where
00:41:53 joseph smith is using the
00:41:55 stars and planets interchangeably
00:41:59 um let me see if i can
00:42:03 find it hold on
00:42:28 okay that might be somewhere in here so
00:42:31 hold up let me share
00:42:32 here hopefully it’s one of these
00:42:36 we’ll see um not that one
00:42:47 oh when these here here’s one when these
00:42:51 stars return to the place where they
00:42:54 were taken from
00:42:56 it will cause the earth to reel to and
00:42:58 fro
00:42:59 not that the planets
00:43:02 see interchangeably star planets
00:43:05 will come squarely against each other in
00:43:09 such cases both
00:43:10 planets will be broken to pieces but
00:43:14 in their rolling motion they will come
00:43:16 together
00:43:17 where they were taken from which will
00:43:19 cause the earth to
00:43:20 reel and to fro
00:43:23 so we can talk about that quote if you
00:43:25 want but the main part i want to bring
00:43:27 out is how he
00:43:28 interchangeably used stars and planets
00:43:31 like i did when i was
00:43:34 um re-translating the alma 30 verse
00:43:41 i interesting i i read that differently
00:43:43 but it’s also
00:43:44 somebody else quoting joseph it’s not
00:43:46 like joseph wrote it down but i
00:43:48 i read what’s written there not that
00:43:50 they’re interchangeable but that he’s
00:43:52 saying one thing is gonna happen and
00:43:54 he’s saying that doesn’t mean this other
00:43:56 thing is gonna happen
00:43:58 but that that he’s going back to
00:44:01 like what is gonna happen okay so um
00:44:05 i we can get into it if you if you’re
00:44:08 willing to
00:44:09 i don’t if you want to you can but i
00:44:11 don’t see the need because i really
00:44:12 i don’t depend a lot on other people
00:44:16 quoting
00:44:16 other people you know well i mean that’s
00:44:19 pretty much
00:44:19 most of the quotes we have from a lot of
00:44:22 people actually i
00:44:23 know um i i do believe that there’s a
00:44:26 lot of quotes from joseph smith that
00:44:28 aren’t
00:44:29 authentic i do believe this one’s
00:44:32 authentic or at least
00:44:33 close to authentic um probably because
00:44:36 some other things i
00:44:37 believe um but so here’s
00:44:40 he’s talking about an event that’s going
00:44:41 to happen in the future when
00:44:43 um the earth is going to be tumbling
00:44:45 around reeling
00:44:46 to and fro and so he says when these
00:44:49 stars return
00:44:50 to the place where they were taking from
00:44:53 and so
00:44:54 i and i will interject um
00:44:58 saturn venus and mars into that
00:45:01 um you know i i can show you why i
00:45:03 believe that if you want but
00:45:05 we’re going to stick there but whatever
00:45:07 these
00:45:08 there’s something coming back okay so
00:45:10 that that part is
00:45:12 for sure um so the other parts that i
00:45:14 may be reading into it but i don’t
00:45:16 because i know the subject
00:45:18 or i know a subject that i’m using to to
00:45:20 do that with
00:45:22 um where they were taken from it will
00:45:25 cause the earth to reel and fro okay
00:45:27 so these stars are going to cause the
00:45:29 earth to reel
00:45:31 to and fro right these stars are going
00:45:33 to do it
00:45:34 okay not that
00:45:37 the planets so i’m saying this is
00:45:39 another way he’s interchanging those two
00:45:41 words
00:45:42 will come squarely against each other in
00:45:45 such
00:45:46 cases both planets so he’s talking about
00:45:49 before stars coming back and now he’s
00:45:51 saying planets are moving
00:45:54 both planets will be broken to pieces
00:45:56 but we’re in rolling
00:45:58 motion so now he’s talking about reeling
00:46:00 to and fro
00:46:02 they will come together where they were
00:46:04 taken from
00:46:06 which will cause the earth to reel to
00:46:08 and fro so here’s
00:46:10 where he talks about the planets he uses
00:46:12 the real to and fro
00:46:14 twice and on the stars once
00:46:18 i see this as one event
00:46:22 and probably we could probably break it
00:46:24 down into a chiasm of a b
00:46:26 a b and maybe a b um
00:46:29 he’s just gaining the same thing
00:46:31 multiple times
00:46:33 so do you have a resource for the idea
00:46:35 that it’s venus and saturn and what was
00:46:37 the other one
00:46:39 uh yeah saturn venus and mars yeah i
00:46:42 do um that would be cool to see
00:46:45 so i have a resource page on that
00:46:51 and um but i’ll give you
00:46:56 here’s
00:46:59 a link um but for
00:47:02 a quick intro and i’m happy to get more
00:47:04 into it i’m gonna
00:47:06 hold on
00:47:10 this is my probably favorite intro
00:47:13 video for it um
00:47:18 [Music]
00:47:21 hopefully it comes
00:47:29 [Music]
00:47:36 okay
00:47:44 [Music]
00:48:04 my
00:48:07 [Music]
00:48:19 [Music]
00:48:29 so there’s a couple titles in the little
00:48:31 video i don’t
00:48:32 agree with but um overall i believe with
00:48:37 the
00:48:37 the theory there
00:48:40 some of the big people in it all
00:48:43 disagree on various points but
00:48:45 overall um agree on things
00:48:48 um here i’m going to give you this
00:48:51 this is if you really want to get into
00:48:53 it this is homework for you
00:48:55 not that commercial right that’s
00:49:00 i want you to watch commercials
00:49:04 um but let me the
00:49:08 symbols of an ancient alien sky is
00:49:10 really
00:49:12 good and i
00:49:19 um that’s another good one but
00:49:23 um oh now i know this won’t
00:49:26 help you but i found it on the elias
00:49:30 conference center
00:49:31 um i’ll just share my whole screen
00:49:34 instead of going back and forth
00:49:38 um i i so i i do know
00:49:42 we we both believe the elders church is
00:49:43 impossible so this
00:49:45 does not necessarily prove anything okay
00:49:48 that if anything i think they’re using
00:49:52 it
00:49:53 the wrong way um to be honest um but i
00:49:56 do believe the symbol
00:49:58 is correct so
00:50:02 i i read an article
00:50:06 of someone calling the conference center
00:50:09 the the building in
00:50:13 lehi’s vision and nephi’s vision that
00:50:15 the the building without a foundation
00:50:17 right the
00:50:17 great and the bonneville yeah um and so
00:50:21 they put this picture up there and to me
00:50:25 i it was not a very well put
00:50:28 together article and they’re just
00:50:31 finding things to
00:50:32 to push their bias people do that all
00:50:34 the time
00:50:36 um but the reason i liked reading that
00:50:40 article
00:50:41 was this image right here i this is when
00:50:44 i saw this
00:50:45 so there’s the i can you see my mouse
00:50:49 yeah i can okay so there’s the triangle
00:50:52 yep there’s the crescent
00:50:56 and there’s nine there just fyi
00:50:59 um like the nine planets depending on
00:51:02 what science says that the
00:51:04 current day whenever you watch this it
00:51:06 goes back and forth right anyways
00:51:09 um there’s a circle
00:51:14 there’s blue in the middle with water
00:51:18 which is very all that ties in
00:51:21 to this but it’s that symbol also
00:51:25 you look here one two
00:51:29 three now let me get
00:51:36 [Music]
00:51:38 i believe joseph smith drew that
00:51:43 um picture one two
00:51:46 three
00:51:49 so it’s um the filo dibble diagram
00:51:52 anyways
00:51:53 um it’s right there one two three
00:51:56 now um here’s something else i saw
00:51:59 when i got there it’s it’s all over this
00:52:01 building um
00:52:03 but they they don’t talk about it um
00:52:06 of course they don’t talk about anything
00:52:08 really um
00:52:10 so have you been there i have
00:52:13 okay so all the grass was there
00:52:17 but they had the trees started yeah
00:52:20 um okay so here
00:52:24 it’s a picture someone did that kind of
00:52:26 shows that
00:52:27 what i just kind of pointed out by
00:52:30 overlaying the pictures
00:52:31 i didn’t draw the picture um
00:52:35 so i found the son of man which is this
00:52:38 figure right here
00:52:39 and if you and also it’s interesting
00:52:43 that the the crescents that’s here it’s
00:52:45 at the 11th hour
00:52:47 um if you get into egypt stuff
00:52:53 this is so funny with the i
00:52:56 i mostly believe the book of abraham
00:52:59 there’s some things i’ve seen
00:53:00 that made me wonder but it’s not an area
00:53:02 i focus on
00:53:04 um but it’s interesting
00:53:07 the egyptologists will say that it’s not
00:53:10 translated but you know what
00:53:12 they don’t translating the things that
00:53:14 they see correctly
00:53:15 themselves in fact if they did people
00:53:17 call them crazy
00:53:19 because there are documents that talk
00:53:21 about how the time
00:53:23 or a crescent on the ancient sun
00:53:26 which is saturn the ancient dark sun is
00:53:29 saturn
00:53:29 goes backwards it goes counterclockwise
00:53:33 and they can’t explain it so they just
00:53:36 change it so that way it’s not even what
00:53:38 they’re
00:53:39 what it’s actually saying so people
00:53:41 don’t think that they’re crazy
00:53:43 um but midnight is at
00:53:46 at the bottom um right there
00:53:50 and it’s this crescent is just before
00:53:52 midnight which is where we’re at
00:53:54 right
00:53:59 anyways so there’s that now um
00:54:02 there’s a water fountain in it and let
00:54:04 me try to get a
00:54:06 so i went and this is a picture i took
00:54:09 of the water found inside the conference
00:54:11 center now if you look at that
00:54:13 that looks like the venus
00:54:16 with little plasmas coming out a red
00:54:20 that is mars and saturn has multiple
00:54:24 colors one being
00:54:25 white and yellow or gold or the three
00:54:27 most common and that’s what you got
00:54:29 right there the
00:54:30 you got the three now um
00:54:35 here is the little icon for that
00:54:39 uh symbols of an ancient alien sky i
00:54:41 just told you to watch
00:54:43 there is
00:54:47 the water fountain in the lds conference
00:54:50 center
00:54:51 yep you can’t tell me there’s something
00:54:53 there
00:54:55 well i guess you could but i wouldn’t
00:54:56 believe you yeah
00:55:00 something’s there now i do agree it does
00:55:03 not necessarily mean anything
00:55:05 because the the church is in apostasy um
00:55:09 but i do believe the symbols are correct
00:55:12 but i do believe they’re using it
00:55:13 incorrectly but anyways that’s a whole
00:55:15 other subject
00:55:16 um um in fact
00:55:20 um i may have let me see if i
00:55:23 have saved this
00:55:26 if not we can go get them
00:55:32 oh here’s one i mean x mason not a mason
00:55:36 anymore
00:55:36 but i just find that
00:55:40 look at the the planets and their uh
00:55:42 compass and square
00:55:44 anyways it can be used for good and bad
00:55:47 um
00:55:50 i’m trying to find do i have one on
00:55:55 oh here’s so here’s one i took
00:55:59 from some graffiti here in argentina so
00:56:04 if you draw a circle right there
00:56:09 that’s saturn right yeah
00:56:12 you take it off now you get a satellite
00:56:15 i mean a spaceship
00:56:17 i said the wrong thing that’s a
00:56:18 spaceship
00:56:20 you if you watch movies they put saturn
00:56:24 because hollywood pushes bad stuff right
00:56:27 i think we both agree
00:56:28 on that they put saturn all over the
00:56:30 place
00:56:32 it’s because ancient sun worship
00:56:35 is based off of the ancient dark sun
00:56:38 which is
00:56:39 saturn yeah
00:56:42 um oh here’s another spot of it and see
00:56:45 there’s the little alien
00:56:46 which they’re trying to push nowadays
00:56:48 that they’re going to use to deceive
00:56:49 people but anyways
00:56:51 i just find it interesting spaceships
00:56:54 that they put
00:56:55 on for the deception that they’re going
00:56:58 to be pushing on us
00:56:59 looks like saturn
00:57:02 yep kind of like there’s been a plan for
00:57:05 a while
00:57:06 oh yeah they’re they’re they they’re
00:57:09 they’re
00:57:09 promoting their plan um but right now
00:57:12 i’m trying to find
00:57:13 peter’s square um
00:57:16 i know oh okay here’s here’s something
00:57:20 this is i’m getting a little sidetracked
00:57:22 so this was a toy
00:57:24 that someone gave my first son when he
00:57:27 was a baby
00:57:30 mars venus plasma between them
00:57:35 no i okay look windows this stuff
00:57:39 it’s all over windows default icon
00:57:43 does that look familiar but we just kind
00:57:45 of saw yeah
00:57:48 yeah it it’s everywhere um
00:57:52 so is it
00:57:54 you’re really gonna like those other
00:57:56 videos talking about mazera because he
00:57:57 goes into the symbols that they use for
00:58:00 each of the planets
00:58:01 and what they mean oh i’ll like that
00:58:03 you’re gonna trip
00:58:04 out it’s so awesome like what a half
00:58:06 circle with is full circle what a square
00:58:08 sign means like all that yeah i like
00:58:12 meaning so
00:58:16 anthony uh is the one that kind of saw
00:58:19 these symbols
00:58:20 but although he told people he knew what
00:58:23 they meant
00:58:25 he told me he didn’t
00:58:28 he just knew they were there he didn’t
00:58:30 know what they meant
00:58:32 so either he was lying to me or lying to
00:58:35 the public
00:58:37 you’ll have to go make a judgment basis
00:58:39 on that um
00:58:40 but i don’t think he was lying to me
00:58:45 but either way he lied to someone um
00:58:49 so but i’m trying to find i originally
00:58:52 was trying to find
00:58:54 saint peter’s square and
00:58:58 oh yeah here so here’s the saturn right
00:59:02 see that the rings the saturn in fact
00:59:05 lord of the rings
00:59:09 saturn’s rings it’s all over the place
00:59:11 when you know what to look for
00:59:14 look superman do you see it
00:59:20 oh interesting it’s a polar
00:59:23 configuration
00:59:25 um i i may have a picture of
00:59:28 transformers it’s in transformers too
00:59:30 it’s everywhere
00:59:32 it’s everywhere um
00:59:35 turnabouts they’re they go
00:59:38 about counter clockwise
00:59:42 all around the whole world i go counter
00:59:45 clockwise
00:59:46 here i’ll give you a little post so i
00:59:48 talk about the direction a little bit
00:59:49 you can
00:59:50 read later um
00:59:53 the bow and the heart i talk about it in
00:59:55 there
00:59:57 um it
01:00:00 the the direction is very interesting
01:00:03 um i i should do more on the subject but
01:00:07 i
01:00:07 i just i care about more other subjects
01:00:10 more than this one but this has a lot of
01:00:13 stuff
01:00:14 um uh
01:00:17 so i’m not seeing st peter’s square
01:00:20 here oh so
01:00:24 so so
01:00:27 do you know the black cube um represents
01:00:29 saturn
01:00:31 no oh boy here i’ll sidetrack on this a
01:00:34 little bit
01:00:44 the north pole of saturn is a hexagon
01:00:48 a hexagon is a 2d image of a 3d cube
01:00:54 yeah so um
01:00:58 and then in addition let’s get back to
01:01:00 this picture real quick
01:01:01 guess what direction they get they go
01:01:03 around this
01:01:06 counter clockwise and
01:01:09 they’re worshiping the cube
01:01:12 they’re worshiping saturn what is that
01:01:16 huh what is that picture um
01:01:19 it’s mecca where the muslims the islams
01:01:23 go to their that’s their holy
01:01:25 place that they have to go to once a
01:01:28 year
01:01:29 oh i didn’t even recognize it no it’s
01:01:31 probably good that you didn’t it’s not a
01:01:32 good thing
01:01:36 so orthodox jews have a tradition
01:01:40 of wearing a black cube on their
01:01:42 forehead
01:01:43 the orthodox jews prove texts
01:01:46 torah to push their babylonian false
01:01:49 traditions their black
01:01:51 cube it’s not good
01:01:54 for the jews and bad for islam it’s just
01:01:57 bad
01:01:58 black cube it’s saturn worship
01:02:03 yeah all right okay so enough with the
01:02:06 saturn
01:02:06 let’s go to saint peter’s square
01:02:17 there we go there’s a good one
01:02:21 do you see it the circle and the
01:02:23 triangle coming out
01:02:26 it’s not the best picture but there’s
01:02:28 the circle
01:02:30 and the triangle it looks like a key st
01:02:33 peter’s square
01:02:34 partly it looks like a key because they
01:02:37 claim peter
01:02:38 um they get the keys from peter and we
01:02:40 we can talk about keys that’s a whole
01:02:42 nother subject
01:02:44 it’s not what people claim it is um
01:02:47 anyways right i don’t know if you’ve
01:02:48 talked about it but i understand the
01:02:49 concept of what a true key is
01:02:53 um but if you look that looks like the
01:02:56 circle
01:02:56 and the triangle which is where the
01:03:00 key figure kind is kind of based off of
01:03:02 that where you put the key into
01:03:04 um now
01:03:08 i think the best place to do this is
01:03:10 google maps
01:03:27 did you hear me no i’m sorry what nearly
01:03:29 had like 15 more minutes i can’t stay
01:03:31 very long today oh okay um
01:03:34 let’s hurry i’ll show you this one
01:03:46 we’re gonna go look at
01:03:50 the mall
01:03:54 city creek mall
01:03:55 [Music]
01:03:57 yeah i have some thoughts about that
01:03:59 place
01:04:00 oh it’s bad but anyways um i’m going to
01:04:03 show you it has the same
01:04:04 image that saint peter’s square has
01:04:07 yep there it’s patterned off to
01:04:09 something but anyways
01:04:10 um is it a crate all right
01:04:14 um how do we
01:04:15 [Music]
01:04:18 oh okay um
01:04:26 that one
01:04:29 is that one i want to get the picture ah
01:04:31 there we go
01:04:39 i mean it’s not quite as clear but look
01:04:43 the circle and right there kind of looks
01:04:46 like a triangle
01:04:48 or right there so it’s not as
01:04:51 clear as saint peter’s square
01:04:55 yeah but it’s interesting that circle
01:04:59 i’ve walked around that circle
01:05:00 oh but look oh right here there’s the
01:05:03 square
01:05:05 fact ah this may be controversial
01:05:09 but squaring this circle or
01:05:13 is an occult practice and here this i
01:05:16 just saw this one now look there’s
01:05:17 circle and the square
01:05:19 in fact i’ve walked around that i never
01:05:21 noticed that until right now talking to
01:05:22 you and look there’s another square
01:05:24 um were you gonna say something
01:05:28 oh i agree with you that that’s you know
01:05:33 there’s a lot of not good yeah it’s
01:05:36 it’s an occult practice to put um shapes
01:05:39 inside of other shapes
01:05:42 um the melchizedek
01:05:45 um square where it’s square inside the
01:05:48 square that’s not melchizedek
01:05:50 and i i’ve seen now
01:05:54 i like rod mildem okay he’s a good guy
01:05:58 but he
01:05:59 is a bit of an apologist for the eldest
01:06:00 church when
01:06:02 um it goes a little too far on that on
01:06:05 heartland i completely agree with him on
01:06:06 that but on one of his heartland tours
01:06:09 that he’s recorded and i’ve watched
01:06:12 there’s a um
01:06:16 there’s an octagon at one of these
01:06:19 locations
01:06:20 but he calls it um melchizedek’s
01:06:24 um star i figured the official name of
01:06:26 it but i think you know what i’m
01:06:28 talking about i can look it up if you
01:06:30 want
01:06:32 but it’s not that
01:06:35 because when you look at it it’s an
01:06:37 octagon it’s
01:06:38 not an eight-sided star
01:06:44 yeah and so he’s trying
01:06:50 he’s seeing what is not there he’s
01:06:53 proof imaging does that make sense
01:06:56 instead of proof texting it’s proof
01:06:57 imaging
01:06:59 it’s not a star at that location it is
01:07:02 an
01:07:02 octagon and now here’s something i’ve
01:07:05 wondered
01:07:06 and i don’t know the answer because it’s
01:07:07 i have lots of things on research
01:07:10 stop signs so when he shows that
01:07:13 um location that he claims is the
01:07:15 melchizedek’s
01:07:17 square or star i forget the official
01:07:20 name
01:07:21 yeah it’s a stopping point they have to
01:07:23 stop
01:07:25 and it’s an octagon stop signs are
01:07:27 octagons
01:07:31 i don’t know if that’s an accident or
01:07:34 purpose
01:07:37 does that make sense because in that
01:07:40 region
01:07:40 the in the plant everybody had to stop
01:07:43 there
01:07:44 he says that and it’s an octagon
01:07:48 octagons are stop signs where’d that
01:07:51 come from
01:07:52 yeah i think there’s an ancient
01:07:55 source that they’re both getting that
01:07:57 from i just don’t know what it is
01:07:59 because i doubt that’s a coincidence i
01:08:01 really now the 48th
01:08:03 i talked about the weeks and the
01:08:04 constellation that might be coincidence
01:08:06 i don’t think the octagon is in this
01:08:08 case because they’re both
01:08:09 context of stop
01:08:13 right anyways that’d be a cool thing to
01:08:16 look up
01:08:17 yeah it’s on one of my many to-do lists
01:08:22 awesome anyways
01:08:25 um i don’t know where to go after that
01:08:30 no that was really cool so i copied a
01:08:33 lot of things
01:08:34 to go and research i’ve got a lot of fun
01:08:38 stephen thank you for sharing oh well
01:08:41 thanks for coming
01:08:42 um sorry you have to go hopefully you
01:08:44 can come again
01:08:46 yeah that’s really good and i’m i really
01:08:49 am so excited to learn more
01:08:51 about you know the original
01:08:54 understanding
01:08:55 of what we had in skype oh yeah well
01:08:57 maybe we can help each other
01:08:59 on that because i’m kind of a newbie on
01:09:01 that
01:09:04 you know i’ve kind of known of it before
01:09:05 but it’s always been the zodiac
01:09:07 or as in you know the astrology stuff
01:09:10 and i just i wasn’t into astrology and i
01:09:12 i didn’t really have a very good feeling
01:09:14 on it i mean i’ll admit
01:09:16 i looked at it when i had some girls
01:09:18 that i thought were cute i’m like oh i
01:09:20 wonder if i’m compatible
01:09:21 but i don’t know i i i didn’t do
01:09:24 anything with it
01:09:26 um but now i know better so i won’t even
01:09:30 do that but of course i wouldn’t do it
01:09:32 because i’m married now so i
01:09:34 anyways you get the picture yeah i i
01:09:37 think there’s great value
01:09:38 um but it’s but it’s kind of like you
01:09:41 were saying like there’s so much to
01:09:43 learn
01:09:43 and this is a knowledge that used to be
01:09:45 cultural that everyone knew this
01:09:48 and then lost and so to try you know
01:09:51 is that slightly intimidating okay there
01:09:53 were generations of generous people that
01:09:55 grew up
01:09:55 knowing this and then now we’re looking
01:09:58 back saying
01:09:59 this knowledge has been there the whole
01:10:00 time but it’s not
01:10:03 super accessible and not everybody else
01:10:05 is even willing to look at it
01:10:07 but yeah most people just want
01:10:12 quote truth or they’re nice little
01:10:16 quotes that make them feel like what
01:10:18 they’re doing is what they should
01:10:21 they don’t want any more truth beyond
01:10:24 that
01:10:24 they just want some comfortable
01:10:26 statements couplets
01:10:28 that make them feel like they’re okay
01:10:30 yeah
01:10:32 they most people really don’t want to
01:10:34 repent
01:10:36 and that’s yeah which is
01:10:39 you know interesting how that works
01:10:43 um i also i was going to ask you let me
01:10:46 see let me grab it really fast i got a
01:10:48 book from a friend
01:10:50 and he has a section
01:10:55 so i was glancing at this book and
01:10:57 supposedly he’s coming out
01:10:59 supposedly he’s coming out with a new
01:11:00 edition sorry
01:11:03 a little squeaky um
01:11:06 but it had some really interesting
01:11:07 things in here have you heard of david m
01:11:10 clarke
01:11:14 so the title of the book is without
01:11:16 faith it is impossible to please god
01:11:18 and he goes through and i think you’d
01:11:21 like his tone he’s
01:11:22 really talking about the value of
01:11:24 studying the lectures on faith
01:11:26 and really i like that because i i
01:11:29 believe the lectures on faith
01:11:30 yeah and he’s his tone is very much
01:11:34 saying if you’re looking for something
01:11:36 that’s just gonna hand it to you spoon
01:11:37 feed it to you close the book
01:11:39 and leave but if you put something
01:11:41 that’s gonna inspire you to go read the
01:11:43 actual scriptures some more
01:11:45 you know in fact go along with that i’ve
01:11:48 studied
01:11:49 learning and passive
01:11:52 learners quote unquote with your stuff
01:11:55 that you’re into
01:11:55 with uh you probably are aware what that
01:11:57 means right
01:11:59 yes they don’t learn it just in and out
01:12:03 the learners are the
01:12:06 um aggressive learners
01:12:09 people who are asking questions and are
01:12:12 trying to apply it
01:12:13 in fact even memory um the
01:12:16 these the ways that schools does te and
01:12:18 i’m probably preaching to the choir
01:12:20 um with your background right but the
01:12:22 way that school does testing
01:12:24 it actually is encouraging forgetting
01:12:28 the way to better do it is continually
01:12:32 doing it and not just
01:12:33 memorize all ones and do a little here
01:12:35 do a little there
01:12:37 and then after you’ve possibly forgotten
01:12:39 a little bit
01:12:40 then do the questions because then that
01:12:43 seeking
01:12:44 and trying to retrieve the information
01:12:47 on a regular basis and try to use it is
01:12:49 what makes you
01:12:51 remember it not reading it over and over
01:12:54 and over it’s
01:12:55 application that makes you
01:12:58 remember not just reading it hence
01:13:01 also this goes into a thing that i know
01:13:03 you would like the difference between
01:13:06 greek learning and hebrew learning greek
01:13:08 is just
01:13:09 read it you’re done with it hebrew is
01:13:11 you
01:13:12 do it is listen
01:13:16 and obey which is
01:13:19 anyways that’s awesome well yeah well
01:13:22 and you were talking about how like
01:13:24 there is the method of you’re around it
01:13:26 and it’s familiar and you get these
01:13:28 pieces and then you check to see if you
01:13:29 have it
01:13:30 but also that highest level i think is
01:13:32 actually very similar to what we’re
01:13:33 taught about how to receive
01:13:36 um answers faith knowledge
01:13:39 is when we go to god with that broken
01:13:41 heart that almost desperation of i do
01:13:43 not have this on my own
01:13:46 but i need it so when if you ask for a
01:13:49 spiritual gift
01:13:50 you know but if you are trying to do
01:13:54 something
01:13:55 or trying to find an understanding and
01:13:57 trying to look at it from god’s
01:13:58 perspective
01:13:58 and learn from him directly because you
01:14:02 want to serve him or honor him
01:14:05 it seems like that’s more the situation
01:14:06 where because you’re in that i’m ready
01:14:08 to apply
01:14:09 i’m i’m fully willing to submit or
01:14:12 sacrifice or do but i want to do it for
01:14:15 you
01:14:15 in your way then god will allow you to
01:14:17 receive the actual knowledge and actual
01:14:19 strength to proceed
01:14:21 and it it’s you know it’s the same thing
01:14:23 if you’re learning very something simple
01:14:26 with math of if you’re in a moment where
01:14:29 you’re saying oh
01:14:30 i want to get through this problem
01:14:32 because it’s
01:14:33 in my life it’s real like i
01:14:36 i need to be able to solve this thing
01:14:38 that i deal with every day
01:14:40 now listen you have the motivation the
01:14:42 humble nature
01:14:44 the open-mindedness the the commitment
01:14:47 to doing it correctly because it matters
01:14:49 and you can actually learn something so
01:14:52 yeah
01:14:52 um i think to go along with that
01:14:56 um yahweh rewards those who diligently
01:15:00 seek after him and parted diligently
01:15:03 is the doing not just
01:15:06 coming to him with our lips but coming
01:15:09 with him with our
01:15:10 hearts that’s right
01:15:15 it’s all over
01:15:19 the hebrew language is a hebrew
01:15:23 or i mean sorry a language of images
01:15:26 it’s all over the place it’s the images
01:15:30 and the concepts it’s not necessarily
01:15:33 the greeks love to be technical the
01:15:35 hellenistic it’s this this or this
01:15:38 where the hebrew it’s
01:15:41 it’s imagery and the feelings and
01:15:44 everything that goes along with it
01:15:46 it’s not just the one part and a lot of
01:15:49 these
01:15:50 statements and sayings are so related to
01:15:53 each other
01:15:54 when you look at their core and then
01:15:55 it’s just they brought it out in a
01:15:58 slightly different image
01:15:59 if that make or medium if that makes
01:16:01 sense yeah it does
01:16:04 it’s awesome and that also helps us
01:16:07 remember more because when we can see
01:16:09 that from different angles
01:16:11 it helps us do more of the applying too
01:16:14 so
01:16:14 there you may like my there’s a section
01:16:18 in my
01:16:19 bishops or judges of israel post that
01:16:22 you may like and i bring out how why god
01:16:24 doesn’t just
01:16:25 give us the commandments all at once
01:16:29 well he he kind of doesn’t kind of
01:16:30 doesn’t he gives us the ten
01:16:32 they broke it and then god helps him
01:16:35 understand the ten
01:16:37 more and says okay
01:16:40 this is where he got this part of this
01:16:42 wrong let me help you out with that a
01:16:44 little bit more
01:16:45 and it’s mixed and it’s given to us in
01:16:47 the stories because
01:16:49 the stories stick with us
01:16:53 i don’t know how much you’ve started
01:16:54 memory but
01:16:56 raw memory or just raw memorization
01:17:00 is hard it’s hard what is
01:17:03 easy to remember is when it’s connected
01:17:05 with feelings and emotions
01:17:08 and sights and smells and all the senses
01:17:12 that’s when the more inner connected
01:17:15 everything
01:17:16 is the easier you are to retrieve it and
01:17:18 remember it and do it
01:17:20 absolutely awesome well steven
01:17:23 i think that’s a great spot to say i do
01:17:27 thank you for sharing your good stuff i
01:17:29 love it i hope you have a wonderful
01:17:32 sabbath day you too i’ll talk to you
01:17:35 later
01:17:36 all right take care bye