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Summary:

Talked some about the Polar Configuration. One thing the number nine represents is Satan. Posed the question if we were alive during Yehsua/Jesus mortal ministry would we have accepted him. Talked about Gnostic gospel some. Talked the symbolism of scorpions and eggs along reading Jack and the Beanstalk.

Links:

• Polar Configuration
• Eletric Universe Model
• Jno Cook’s Saturn theory story board
• Sting of the Scorpion
• Prime creator of Earth’ interrupts COVID-19 update
• I, Pet Goat II
• The Living Word in 3D
• Awakening and Arising Mormons
• PaRDes: Layers of meaning
• New2Torah
  • YouTube
  • Website

Transcript:

00:00:02 this meeting is being recorded
00:00:05 anyways okay so um i think
00:00:10 uh this let me see if i can find the
00:00:12 picture but
00:00:13 i i have one picture
00:00:17 i i in the icon for
00:00:21 for these guys
00:00:24 for transformers i see the polar
00:00:27 configuration
00:00:29 um yeah let me see if i can find the
00:00:32 picture i have saved
00:00:33 oh you’re just gonna fan day
00:00:38 well they’re all so another part i’m
00:00:40 gonna tell you after this isn’t so good
00:00:42 but let me see if i can find this um
00:00:46 fact i first oh there’s the picture um
00:00:52 i i first saw it when i was going to the
00:00:54 library to host
00:00:55 um one of the lectures for anthony
00:00:59 and i can’t remember if it was the way
00:01:01 in or the way out
00:01:02 but with i was with uh matt
00:01:05 and i and i saw it and i told him he’s
00:01:08 like holy mackerel i can see it too
00:01:10 now anyways who are you
00:01:13 is it sir go what
00:01:16 oh go ahead well i was just like here it
00:01:19 is
00:01:20 i mean it’s been a while um
00:01:23 you want to see if you can see it or
00:01:26 because there’s multiple in it
00:01:27 or you want me to just kind of point out
00:01:29 honestly
00:01:31 um right off the bat i’m going to say
00:01:35 that you so like the
00:01:39 forehead knows yeah
00:01:43 that’s like the biggest one right
00:01:47 um and then
00:01:50 the the two
00:01:54 what kind of looks like double eyebrows
00:01:57 could be like
00:01:58 the man with the you know with the
00:02:00 outstretched arms
00:02:02 uh symbology yeah well you can see the
00:02:05 head and you see
00:02:06 kind of the angel with the arms coming
00:02:08 out or there’s the crescent
00:02:10 right there also all right and there’s
00:02:13 the
00:02:13 the pillar coming down as you were
00:02:16 saying right
00:02:17 um and i used to see more but it’s been
00:02:20 a while since i’ve
00:02:22 like really studied it uh and so you
00:02:25 know when you
00:02:25 kind of get rusty you kind of lose some
00:02:27 things
00:02:35 i used to see stuff with the cheeks and
00:02:37 the eyes and i just i didn’t make notes
00:02:39 and i’m not seeing it right now but you
00:02:41 are seeing the most obvious ones like
00:02:43 the
00:02:43 head the the body going down and the
00:02:47 arms or the wings coming out
00:02:49 um i used to see more
00:02:52 but it’s been a while since i’ve done
00:02:54 anything on the subject
00:02:55 so i’m losing it a little bit i’m taking
00:02:58 it
00:02:59 anyways you you do see some though
00:03:03 right right yeah
00:03:06 um give me one sec sure
00:03:10 ah let’s see this
00:03:16 let’s go with this um here let me do
00:03:19 something let me
00:03:20 let’s probably let me put this there
00:03:23 and i’m going to send it to you in chat
00:03:25 while you’re looking at it so that way
00:03:26 you can have it for later
00:03:44 okay
00:03:54 if i can find it again
00:03:57 oh there it is
00:04:06 oh so are you done looking at it
00:04:09 um so i
00:04:13 was actually looking for something else
00:04:14 but yeah i’m done looking at that
00:04:16 picture go ahead and
00:04:17 all right here i’ll let me get another
00:04:18 one just just because when i was getting
00:04:20 that one picture
00:04:22 um i saw this one
00:04:26 and we can look at this one just for a
00:04:27 little bit
00:04:32 now the order is not the best um
00:04:36 but you see the planets aligned
00:04:41 and then the green plasma mars
00:04:44 saturn and the dragon
00:04:51 i don’t so i can see the the three setup
00:04:55 you know the three planetary
00:04:57 setup but i’m not seeing the dragon
00:05:00 where’s the dragon oh the green
00:05:01 i mean the green could be the blue which
00:05:04 is venus or
00:05:05 green the plasmids coming from venus and
00:05:08 saturn
00:05:08 right so the green can be a little
00:05:13 different but here’s here’s an
00:05:14 interesting little tidbit for you
00:05:17 red is christ it’s his blood
00:05:21 green is the dragon
00:05:24 those in charge don’t want us to go to
00:05:27 christ so that’s why he’s the stop
00:05:29 right and the green is the go the dragon
00:05:33 they want us to go with the dragon
00:05:36 anyways it’s crazy
00:05:40 that’s i have never thought of it in i
00:05:43 mean
00:05:44 i hadn’t thought of uh you know
00:05:47 street lights in that capacity before
00:05:53 i don’t think most people do i’m
00:05:56 probably the only one
00:05:58 or there might be a few others but
00:06:00 anyways i think everything’s a puzzle
00:06:02 and so i’m always trying to figure out
00:06:05 things
00:06:07 and then that’s it makes sense to me
00:06:12 but um yeah
00:06:18 anyways to me i see aligned planets um
00:06:21 they’re not in the best order um as what
00:06:24 happened in the sky
00:06:25 but i do think the order is occultic
00:06:29 the green one to go go that everybody
00:06:32 wants is the dragon
00:06:34 the one that nobody wants is the blood
00:06:37 of christ
00:06:38 that’s how i see it but and then
00:06:42 saturn is kind of interesting it’s kind
00:06:44 of the middle
00:06:45 and its symbology is sometimes good and
00:06:48 sometimes bad
00:06:50 right right so i think that’s why that
00:06:53 one’s in the middle
00:06:56 but anyways um
00:07:00 that’s how i solve that puzzle of the
00:07:03 um stoplights not that it was a puzzle
00:07:07 for anybody
00:07:08 [Laughter]
00:07:11 okay i just dropped what i was trying to
00:07:14 find in chat uh
00:07:16 okay hold up and share it
00:07:20 oh uh oh in the zoom chat
00:07:23 oh okay yeah all right i’ll get it
00:07:26 [Music]
00:07:28 um
00:07:32 i mean yeah i’m gonna share it i’m just
00:07:34 i gotta put it in a good spot i guess
00:07:36 the it’s not so it’s not so
00:07:40 much you know what symbology can you see
00:07:43 within the symbol but
00:07:46 this was the poster that they advertised
00:07:48 the show for
00:07:49 holy mackerel let me share the screen i
00:07:52 can see it all over it
00:07:53 [Laughter]
00:07:57 and i’m rusty but i can still see it all
00:07:59 over it
00:08:02 i’m sure you can see it all over it
00:08:04 that’s probably why you shared it right
00:08:06 yeah i mean this is so this is the
00:08:09 poster
00:08:10 that i first saw and found out about
00:08:13 that movie
00:08:14 back in 1986
00:08:17 and this you know pc wasn’t
00:08:21 a thing for me at that time i didn’t
00:08:23 even find out about
00:08:25 you know um belikovsky or
00:08:28 or larson or any of that until like
00:08:34 mid to late 90s oh you found them way
00:08:37 before i did i
00:08:38 found him 2014. i found him
00:08:42 when i was starting to well actually
00:08:43 this is what my home teacher
00:08:46 introduced me to him um
00:08:49 and that’s how i met him and i watched
00:08:52 some of the free stuff and then i paid
00:08:53 for it and then i really liked it and
00:08:55 then i’m like here let me host lectures
00:08:57 for you so like
00:08:58 and it was mixed motivation one because
00:09:01 i wanted more and two i felt like other
00:09:03 people would want more too right it
00:09:06 helped him out a lot he actually
00:09:08 told me um he got a lot more people
00:09:10 interested during that period when i was
00:09:12 collaborating with him than any other
00:09:14 time so
00:09:15 um i i have to be i have to add a little
00:09:18 bit of a
00:09:19 an addendum so what
00:09:24 um i
00:09:28 at that time and for some years after
00:09:32 um i actually treated
00:09:36 that information in the same category as
00:09:39 flat earthers
00:09:41 you broke up a little bit can you say
00:09:42 that again i i
00:09:44 treated the electric universe
00:09:47 um theory as the same
00:09:51 validity as flat earthers oh
00:09:55 i’m sure you don’t now
00:09:58 oh no no not now but um
00:10:02 i agree you know i
00:10:06 i i understand it’s a complete paradigm
00:10:08 shift for a lot of that stuff right
00:10:10 oh my god yes it’s
00:10:14 more predictive than the standard model
00:10:17 especially out in space the the standard
00:10:20 models
00:10:21 falls apart in space where the electric
00:10:23 universe
00:10:25 i mean it’s not perfect because they’re
00:10:26 still figuring out you know minor
00:10:28 details here and there but it’s
00:10:29 pretty dang good it’s a lot better than
00:10:31 the standard model
00:10:33 but everybody thinks the standard model
00:10:35 is science i think it’s
00:10:36 i think it’s propaganda and religion if
00:10:39 they claim that if anybody has something
00:10:42 better they’ll
00:10:43 they’ll adopt it no they don’t the
00:10:45 electronic universe model
00:10:46 completely destroys that statement that
00:10:49 they say
00:10:50 they don’t accept it even though it has
00:10:52 better predictions than what they have
00:10:54 because it gets rid of all their in my
00:10:56 opinion all their occult
00:10:58 theories that they throw into it that
00:10:59 tries to make it look like science
00:11:04 well you know truth be told
00:11:09 the actual difference
00:11:12 between science and religion
00:11:18 is really non-existent uh
00:11:21 um it’s it’s
00:11:24 basically interpretation of
00:11:28 a fact or trying to couple together a
00:11:31 bunch of
00:11:33 facts to try to
00:11:37 see reality oh and yeah i agree with you
00:11:41 alma 32 the scientific method on faith
00:11:44 right um we’re the methods are valid in
00:11:49 both
00:11:49 areas um it’s just
00:11:52 in the faith arena it’s something you
00:11:54 have to do for yourself
00:11:56 well you should i think a lot of people
00:12:00 just take their preacher’s word for it
00:12:03 never really
00:12:04 tests it or in science
00:12:07 you have to take someone else’s word for
00:12:09 on the big stuff the little stuff they
00:12:11 let you test right because they do the
00:12:12 egg dropping
00:12:15 um fairs or experiments for kids and
00:12:18 other things like that but the big stuff
00:12:20 you have to take their word for it yeah
00:12:23 on the big stuff for god you can test it
00:12:26 yourself
00:12:29 in fact he wants you to but inside in
00:12:32 mainstream science the big stuff
00:12:36 they don’t let you go test it you just
00:12:39 have to trust them
00:12:40 you have to blind faith
00:12:44 in them well yeah um i think
00:12:48 it’s it’s
00:12:53 limited resources for for research uh
00:12:56 speaking of
00:12:57 the more sciency aspects of it i just
00:13:00 dropped a link
00:13:02 in the zoom chat uh okay
00:13:06 um when you have time later i would
00:13:09 invite you to
00:13:10 review it this is interesting timeline
00:13:14 that i found um
00:13:17 so i guess the person who made it
00:13:20 passed away but um
00:13:24 his name was john j n o i don’t know how
00:13:28 you get
00:13:28 john out of j n o but it’s like
00:13:31 john cook well maybe he’s asian
00:13:34 i mean that would be my educated guess i
00:13:38 i know asians have multiple names one
00:13:41 being you know
00:13:42 the roman or english name
00:13:46 and and sometimes they’re
00:13:49 they they’re just spelled funny but
00:13:52 anyways i’ve dealt with some asians
00:13:54 because of work in other words before so
00:13:56 that would be my educated guess on
00:13:58 them saying that’s john and um because
00:14:01 it’s from an asian but anyways so this
00:14:03 guy
00:14:03 took um
00:14:07 all these different he he assembled a
00:14:10 timeline
00:14:12 of um
00:14:15 so this is a this is it’s a completely
00:14:17 different
00:14:19 variation um
00:14:23 there is some some big
00:14:27 [Music]
00:14:28 um it’s a divergent
00:14:30 origin sure i i’ve seen
00:14:36 i don’t spend a lot of time on this
00:14:37 anymore but i have seen some
00:14:39 videos about some other possible um
00:14:45 uh timelines like you’re suggesting
00:14:48 um not everybody in the area completely
00:14:51 agrees on every single
00:14:53 specific point the overall theory most
00:14:55 people
00:14:56 agree with but some of the fine points
00:14:58 there’s
00:14:59 various divergent theories right what i
00:15:02 mean by
00:15:03 diversion is i mean yeah there there is
00:15:06 disagreement over actual
00:15:07 when x happened sure
00:15:11 but that’s not what i was referring to
00:15:13 so he sticks with the
00:15:16 the the origin of earth being originally
00:15:21 a satellite of saturn
00:15:24 but instead of saturn
00:15:28 being part of the
00:15:31 solar system in the first place
00:15:35 rather it was actually he
00:15:38 he treats it as a rogue sun
00:15:41 that happened to cross the paths with
00:15:44 uh our current son and
00:15:48 because our current son is much bigger
00:15:50 and stronger
00:15:52 um it ended up being
00:15:55 captured and locked into orbit and
00:16:00 um that’s you know that’s the divergence
00:16:03 right there is that
00:16:05 okay um it’s emerging it’s a
00:16:08 merged solar system it’s basically what
00:16:12 his theory is it could be
00:16:15 um i’m actually not too worried about
00:16:17 that point but
00:16:19 personally i would be a little more on
00:16:21 the lines of
00:16:23 that saturn was created
00:16:26 with everything else that i’ve seen
00:16:32 i want to see if i can find it but i’ve
00:16:34 seen plasma pinches for that you know
00:16:36 i’ve
00:16:36 done i think it was the hubble troubles
00:16:40 huh the z pinches uh
00:16:44 maybe that’s the better term for it i i
00:16:46 i don’t know too much in the science of
00:16:48 it i know some of the science i don’t
00:16:49 know
00:16:50 a whole bunch my my main
00:16:53 interest in this is the imagery and the
00:16:56 source of
00:16:56 a lot of myths and stuff from it but i i
00:16:59 do know some of the science not a lot
00:17:01 it’s not where it’s not where my big
00:17:04 interest is
00:17:05 um but i have maybe it’s the finish of
00:17:08 the pi
00:17:08 i think of it as the plasma pinch is
00:17:10 probably the same thing just a different
00:17:11 name
00:17:13 so you’re talking about the birkeland
00:17:14 currents and they talk about how
00:17:16 stars are developed at a kind of a
00:17:20 short circuit point where
00:17:23 yeah where they pinch in the birkeland
00:17:26 current
00:17:27 and that’s where uh stars and planets
00:17:33 start yeah um
00:17:36 yes and i i’ve
00:17:39 come across a few good articles on that
00:17:43 uh i don’t have them saved cheryl
00:17:46 and i don’t have it memorized because
00:17:48 that’s just
00:17:49 i adds that’s not an area that i focus
00:17:52 on
00:17:52 i mean i kind of keep an eye on it not
00:17:55 as much as i used to
00:17:56 but um yeah oh here here’s one thing
00:17:59 here’s an old coin here i was just
00:18:02 because i was trying to find the the
00:18:03 plasma pinch i didn’t see it but here i
00:18:06 did find this coin
00:18:08 um i think you’ll see in what in it what
00:18:10 i do at least for the most part
00:18:13 i see polar configuration i see the
00:18:15 flower
00:18:16 all the plasma from venus coming out and
00:18:18 then the plasma from mars coming down
00:18:22 yeah i can definitely see that
00:18:25 um there’s also i mean this
00:18:28 comes from my older school of thought
00:18:31 i see a ufo yeah i i that’s what most
00:18:35 people say on it and i can see why
00:18:36 people get that
00:18:38 um i i don’t believe it oh so um
00:18:42 here’s something the thing that makes it
00:18:44 look like a ufo
00:18:46 is the ring around the flower oh yeah
00:18:49 uh the little the dots that makes it
00:18:52 look like windows or lights
00:18:53 yeah um here
00:18:57 here’s something that i took a picture
00:18:59 of
00:19:00 um that someone graffitied near where
00:19:03 i’m living right now
00:19:04 um but look at the spaceship
00:19:09 right okay okay now continue the circle
00:19:13 that’s saturn a lot of spaceships
00:19:16 are a partial saturn i don’t think
00:19:18 that’s by accident
00:19:22 um let’s see
00:19:25 oh come on let me go to the next picture
00:19:27 there i guess that was the last one see
00:19:29 there’s
00:19:30 another one it’s a partial saturn
00:19:35 with the ring that rules them all
00:19:37 anyways
00:19:40 one ring to bind them yeah yeah
00:19:44 saturn worship the ancients the ancient
00:19:46 dark sun
00:19:47 worship all over the place gosh
00:19:50 that do you think that poem was inspired
00:19:55 um oh lord of the rings oh yeah
00:19:58 i mean so the the eye
00:20:01 that’s looking everywhere are you
00:20:04 kidding me the full poem
00:20:08 talks about the nine rings um
00:20:11 so are you talking about the book series
00:20:13 or a poem that’s before the
00:20:15 poem written by tolkien
00:20:18 in the book that talks about the nine
00:20:21 rings and seven rings and the one ring
00:20:23 that binds them in the darkness
00:20:26 i haven’t read the poem i’ve only seen
00:20:28 the the videos
00:20:30 um i haven’t read the books
00:20:33 if you if you have it handy we can read
00:20:36 it
00:20:39 let me see
00:20:46 oh before we do that one thing the other
00:20:48 thing i wanted to say about the
00:20:50 transformers it’s an aw they push the
00:20:52 anti
00:20:53 or the gnostic gospel
00:20:56 wait who does uh transformers
00:21:00 the the tv series and and the movies
00:21:03 they pushed the gnostic gospel
00:21:07 yeah go watch it again i mean i we if
00:21:10 you want one day i mean i could even do
00:21:12 it now if you want i have
00:21:13 i might have some old episodes
00:21:17 um but we could watch one and we can go
00:21:19 over it
00:21:21 but guess what all the bad guys where
00:21:24 are they from
00:21:25 heaven they’re the flying ones the good
00:21:28 ones are the earth ones
00:21:30 which is who’s the king of the earth
00:21:32 satan
00:21:33 it’s all over it and go listen to the
00:21:36 decepticons words
00:21:37 the things that they say at times are
00:21:39 especially um
00:21:41 the one in charge i forget his name
00:21:44 it’s been a long time but he says
00:21:48 things what god would say
00:21:51 but they’re twisting it to make it look
00:21:53 bad
00:21:57 yeah go go you’re going to have to go
00:21:59 watch it now and start paying attention
00:22:01 but it’s the gnostic gospel
00:22:05 so there is like a billion
00:22:09 series of transformers would you send me
00:22:11 the name of the
00:22:12 of that particular series uh
00:22:15 the one from 84 or something i i’d have
00:22:18 to
00:22:18 sure i i can look later oh g1
00:22:22 yeah it’s it sure i i don’t know if
00:22:25 that’s what you’d call it but yeah
00:22:27 i guess g1 would be generation one um
00:22:31 i i don’t know if i have it saved
00:22:35 anymore i i i
00:22:38 i got them for my my son to watch
00:22:42 because
00:22:42 i remember to watch him as a kid but
00:22:45 with me doing a lot more study than i
00:22:47 used to right
00:22:48 and i’m watching him like holy mackerel
00:22:51 this is gnostic
00:22:52 gospel all over it um
00:23:00 let’s try the other one but yeah i
00:23:03 i can try one more spot um to see if i
00:23:06 can tell you but i think it’s the the
00:23:08 original
00:23:10 84 series so
00:23:13 this poem that i just posted in chat
00:23:18 okay let me put it in notepad and
00:23:21 everybody can see what were
00:23:44 all right you see it right
00:23:48 okay three rings for
00:23:51 the eleven kings under this kings
00:23:55 all elven kings under the sky seven for
00:23:57 the dwarf lords and their halls of stone
00:24:00 nine for the mortal men doomed to die
00:24:03 one for the dark lord
00:24:05 on this his dark throne in
00:24:08 the land of mordor where the shadows lie
00:24:11 one ring to rule them all one ring to
00:24:15 find them one ring to bring them all and
00:24:17 one in the
00:24:18 darkness binds them and find them
00:24:21 in the darkness behind them well in the
00:24:23 darkness buying them that
00:24:25 sure sounds like satan um right
00:24:29 because he brings darkness to this world
00:24:32 sin
00:24:32 to bind us to him um in the land of
00:24:36 mordor
00:24:37 where the shadows lie um shadows is
00:24:41 darkness or not your true self but in
00:24:43 the cold the uh
00:24:46 shadows has some interesting concepts to
00:24:48 it and the occult
00:24:50 yeah so i mean what you’re saying is
00:24:54 true
00:24:54 as far as you know uh
00:24:57 [Music]
00:24:59 supernatural or
00:25:02 esoteric references um
00:25:06 but i was bringing this up to point out
00:25:08 the
00:25:09 uh pc um
00:25:12 symbology sure sure well um
00:25:15 you’ve looked at it before so how about
00:25:17 you kind of bring it out
00:25:18 um because i i’d be starting to kind of
00:25:21 starting to
00:25:22 piece it together where you’ve thought
00:25:24 about it more so how about you
00:25:26 uh show me what you’re seeing so
00:25:30 particularly um the one
00:25:33 ring to rule them all one ring to find
00:25:36 them
00:25:37 sure that would be saturn’s ring right
00:25:39 which is
00:25:40 it’s all over the place saturn is all
00:25:42 over the movies
00:25:44 it’s all over culture when you know what
00:25:46 you look for
00:25:47 it’s everywhere in fact sometimes they
00:25:49 just put the picture of
00:25:50 saturn so blatantly there in places that
00:25:53 have nothing to do what’s going on
00:25:55 and people probably just don’t even
00:25:56 notice it
00:25:58 anyways sorry interrupted
00:26:01 go ahead yeah the ring of saturn is
00:26:04 really obvious to me
00:26:08 but it is interesting that there’s also
00:26:12 reference
00:26:12 well okay this is going back to more
00:26:14 esoteric stuff but
00:26:16 seven nine three one
00:26:20 these are all references to
00:26:25 the prime numbers this the the perfect
00:26:28 numbers
00:26:30 oh the the magic squares possibly
00:26:38 well nine’s not a prime um
00:26:43 but i know the occult likes the the
00:26:45 magic squares or the
00:26:47 uh is that the name of where they put
00:26:48 the numbers one through something
00:26:51 and then they order them so that way
00:26:53 they’re all the same stuff
00:26:57 no no i’d have to
00:27:00 go look it up it’s just i
00:27:06 pythagorean hold on
00:27:10 i i can let me go see if i can find out
00:27:24 no it’s magic squares i remember the
00:27:27 name right i just searched magic square
00:27:29 on
00:27:29 bing and i see a couple images
00:27:33 like yeah here i’ll share my screen
00:27:41 so let’s just do this yeah
00:27:44 see those are that’s a magic square see
00:27:48 how it’s going down to 15 every
00:27:49 direction
00:27:50 and they have that for the occult has
00:27:52 that for at least some of the planets if
00:27:55 not all of them
00:27:56 um
00:27:59 i’ve come across how some people claim
00:28:01 joseph smith had one i don’t believe it
00:28:03 um there’s a lot of people try to
00:28:07 push make it sound like joseph smith was
00:28:11 in the occult i i don’t believe that
00:28:13 anyways hang on one second
00:29:24 hmm
00:29:49 yes what is that
00:30:06 oh
00:30:12 well i wasn’t able to find
00:30:15 what i wanted to find okay
00:30:19 so i guess that’ll just have to wait for
00:30:21 maybe another time when we’re off on
00:30:23 tangents
00:30:24 oh yeah we definitely go on tangents but
00:30:28 you know what
00:30:29 this time is to help each other not to
00:30:32 stay on a pre-prepared lesson that
00:30:34 um i can’t answer any questions because
00:30:37 i have to get it done
00:30:40 [Music]
00:30:41 yeah so one thing it’s kind of
00:30:43 interesting to me
00:30:45 so let’s go back to um that poem he gave
00:30:49 and i and right now i don’t see a lot of
00:30:51 poll or configuration in it
00:30:53 i mean i see a little bit the one ring i
00:30:56 i’d have to spend some time thinking
00:30:58 about it
00:30:58 um but the movie definitely has it
00:31:02 all over it um and i i know when i was a
00:31:06 mason which i’m not
00:31:07 anymore they loved it and i think it’s
00:31:10 because they saw
00:31:11 their teachings in it and the imagery
00:31:15 but anyways one one thing it sticks out
00:31:17 to me is nine
00:31:19 for the mortal of men and one thing
00:31:23 i i’ve just been recently been kind of
00:31:25 noticing is
00:31:26 nine can get gets associated with satan
00:31:29 a lot at least in some areas
00:31:32 and i i just looked it up since we’re
00:31:34 talking in a on one book i have
00:31:37 that’s about the the hebrew letters and
00:31:40 and one thing it hasn’t there’s just um
00:31:42 some of the meanings of the numbers and
00:31:44 nine one of the meanings for nine is
00:31:46 judgment
00:31:49 which makes some sense uh because of
00:31:51 satan’s
00:31:52 convincing us to sin we’re gonna get
00:31:54 judged
00:31:55 for it and that what he did made it so
00:31:59 that we’re mortal
00:32:00 um right because he tricked us well adam
00:32:02 and eve
00:32:04 um but yeah
00:32:07 actually that kind of makes sense you
00:32:09 know they’re
00:32:10 if so
00:32:14 i’m not sure what so
00:32:17 from your draw you know where the source
00:32:20 that you’re drawing from what is your
00:32:21 source anyway is it the jewish
00:32:23 yeah it’s based off the jewish stuff on
00:32:26 the nine
00:32:27 um in fact though what i i see sometimes
00:32:30 the occult symbology in hebrew symbology
00:32:34 or the scriptural ones are sometimes
00:32:35 pretty
00:32:36 close actually i mean they’re a little
00:32:39 different but they’re
00:32:40 they’re not too far off and i think it’s
00:32:42 well because satan took what was true
00:32:44 and
00:32:44 perverted it um would be my answer for
00:32:47 that
00:32:47 um but anyways so
00:32:51 could you do me a favor look up seven
00:32:54 and three
00:32:55 well seven oh here i’ll just let me go
00:32:58 back to this i mean
00:32:59 there’s some websites that give these
00:33:02 numbers i just i had a little book i
00:33:04 uh here i’ll oh this is a pretty good
00:33:07 book
00:33:07 actually if you ever want to read it
00:33:11 okay oh let me i’ll go look that up on
00:33:15 amazon uh i don’t know if he sells it on
00:33:18 amazon i bought it directly from his
00:33:20 website
00:33:20 um oh can you link the
00:33:24 yeah i’ll i’ll find it later um
00:33:27 i don’t have them memorized
00:33:31 is your computer making noises because i
00:33:33 heard a being and
00:33:34 i yeah no that’s fine as long as it’s
00:33:37 you and not me
00:33:38 that’s all i care about i’m not worried
00:33:40 about it um
00:33:41 yeah it’s just letting me know about
00:33:43 notifications
00:33:45 sure um so he has some good videos i
00:33:48 like
00:33:48 he has some things that i don’t agree
00:33:51 with but he has some good stuff
00:33:52 um so anyways so
00:33:56 seven this one’s pretty universal
00:33:58 everywhere spiritual perfection
00:34:00 completeness resurrection
00:34:03 three he has completion of an
00:34:06 order solid substance the entirety
00:34:10 god and the holy spirit and divine
00:34:13 perfection is what he has on those
00:34:17 um you know you can read one right now
00:34:20 deity unity
00:34:21 sufficiency independence first god the
00:34:23 father
00:34:25 um in fact here
00:34:28 we can check the numbers so
00:34:32 this is kind of a nice little reference
00:34:36 these are the hebrew letters in their
00:34:37 various forms and he talks about the
00:34:39 meanings behind them
00:34:41 um but we’ll read one one’s
00:34:44 alpha it’s a bull or a
00:34:50 um what was the other one three
00:34:53 gimmel it’s a camel it’s the holy spirit
00:34:57 to lift up benefit pride oh pride
00:35:01 he has pride going with three here so
00:35:03 that would make sense
00:35:04 whoa whoa whoa right
00:35:08 um okay what else did let’s go seven
00:35:12 to cut off severe
00:35:16 sever um and that can go multiple ways
00:35:20 right
00:35:20 because uh satan wants to cut us off
00:35:24 from god
00:35:26 so dwarf lords
00:35:29 hey look at seven for the dwarf lords
00:35:31 that’s interesting
00:35:33 um oh the interest so there’s there’s
00:35:36 some
00:35:38 there’s a lot of uh
00:35:42 in-depth um
00:35:45 what do you call it mythology i mean
00:35:48 tolkien really has a very fleshed-out
00:35:52 uh pre-mortal existence
00:35:57 uh into the the early mortal existence
00:36:01 i was not aware of that so
00:36:04 and in fact uh token was the one
00:36:07 was the one that opened the door for
00:36:10 um come on what’s his name
00:36:13 his name is he’s that famous guy
00:36:17 so famous you can think of his name yeah
00:36:20 i know
00:36:21 that’s really silly of me okay the guy
00:36:24 who wrote
00:36:25 the lion the witch in the wardrobe oh uh
00:36:29 cs lewis yes c.s lewis
00:36:32 actually spent most of his life you know
00:36:36 about the first half of his life an
00:36:39 atheist
00:36:40 yes i’m aware that and then later he
00:36:42 converted to christianity
00:36:44 it was token and his friendship with
00:36:46 token
00:36:48 that opened the door for him to be
00:36:50 converted to christianity
00:36:52 oh i didn’t know that part um and
00:36:56 tolkien um
00:37:00 has been a as staunch i forgot what
00:37:03 denomination he was but he was a staunch
00:37:07 christian all of his life
00:37:11 and the
00:37:14 the whole middle earth
00:37:18 its origin its history
00:37:21 it’s you know all the way through past
00:37:25 the hobbit
00:37:25 you know well i guess the lord of the
00:37:28 rings at this point
00:37:29 but all the way through that
00:37:33 um he created so his whole purpose of
00:37:36 reading of writing that
00:37:39 was that he wrote he recognized
00:37:42 that the english people
00:37:46 needed mythology
00:37:50 and so he drew on he drew from
00:37:54 his personal history
00:37:59 of christian cosmology christian
00:38:04 christian um theology
00:38:07 yeah mandarin and meshed it with
00:38:12 the with a lot of um
00:38:15 [Music]
00:38:16 i think it was finnish uh
00:38:20 specifically finnish um
00:38:24 mythological elements you know the
00:38:26 nordic
00:38:27 for sure and that that that mixing might
00:38:30 have been part of the
00:38:31 the why i wouldn’t necessarily call it
00:38:34 christian myself
00:38:35 but i guess maybe if he’s trying to find
00:38:37 a go-between to get more people to read
00:38:39 things
00:38:40 right so he he whatever but
00:38:43 you meshed them together and um created
00:38:46 this
00:38:47 and it is when you when you have a
00:38:49 chance to actually look at the whole
00:38:51 history
00:38:52 of the creator god or the
00:38:55 the the father god and then
00:39:00 the angels or the equivalents of angels
00:39:02 and then
00:39:03 you know uh
00:39:07 the the first men and things like that
00:39:11 when you look at that stuff it is
00:39:15 you can’t help but go hmm this seems to
00:39:18 be right out of
00:39:20 you know jewish theo
00:39:24 yeah it’s it’s all over well i i would
00:39:29 call it personally i would call it god’s
00:39:30 theology
00:39:32 but then you know there was a flood
00:39:36 and then noah had some sons and then
00:39:37 they populated the world but
00:39:40 so noah taught his sons but not all his
00:39:42 sons believed and
00:39:44 i mean the mist got passed on and
00:39:46 modified on purpose
00:39:47 and accident um is my opinion on that oh
00:39:51 look someone else is coming hold on
00:39:53 oh um that’s nice
00:39:56 i like hopefully they’re in hey
00:40:00 there’s different modes oh they’re
00:40:01 hopefully it’s
00:40:03 it’s hard to tell i’m not a big zoom
00:40:05 user but this is the only time i really
00:40:07 use zoom so hopefully let me
00:40:11 let me change the mode make sure
00:40:14 um i don’t have to
00:40:18 turn into on his
00:40:21 infinix hot nine huh
00:40:25 speaking of nine no
00:40:28 no i mean we were just talking about
00:40:29 nine i if i
00:40:31 hopefully i don’t have to do anything to
00:40:32 turn his audio on
00:40:34 um so anyways it doesn’t look like it so
00:40:38 if i do need to do something type in the
00:40:41 chat and i’ll i’ll look
00:40:43 if it’s me and not you um well it looks
00:40:46 like
00:40:46 they’re connecting to audio oh i don’t
00:40:49 see that in mind but okay anyways
00:40:51 so so speaking of nine
00:40:54 like in how i was saying i was starting
00:40:56 to notice things i hadn’t i i should
00:40:58 look probably look at this book more
00:41:00 but look this is this is crazy
00:41:03 um you see number nine
00:41:08 ah oh right here this slide
00:41:13 it’s the snake can you hold it still
00:41:17 sorry i’m trying
00:41:22 okay and look at that look
00:41:25 i’m just seeing also how we write the
00:41:27 number nine almost looks like that snake
00:41:30 except it gets straightened out a little
00:41:32 bit yeah that’s true
00:41:34 that’s crazy i mean that would explain
00:41:37 why i’m seeing these notices
00:41:38 uh connections with nine and satan
00:41:41 because nine is the snake
00:41:43 in the hebrew letters uh tet
00:41:46 so that would explain that
00:41:50 um so there there’s the numbers um
00:41:54 so would you say that i i’ve heard it um
00:41:58 from other sources i i’m wondering if
00:42:01 you would
00:42:02 concur with this that the dragon
00:42:05 in revelations is actually
00:42:08 satan yeah i would believe that yeah
00:42:12 um so that if you want this kind of
00:42:16 um leads into what i was saying before
00:42:19 so
00:42:19 actually let me go grab something real
00:42:20 quick i’ll be right back
00:42:22 um because it’s sometimes it’s crazy how
00:42:26 you
00:42:26 make connections sometimes and and i’ll
00:42:29 explain how the connections came so i
00:42:31 just want to go grab one other thing
00:42:32 i’ll be right back okay go grab your
00:42:34 thing and then put your mic back on so i
00:42:35 can hear you
00:42:42 okay
00:43:10 oh
00:43:18 can you hear me yes okay
00:43:21 all right so let’s go
00:43:25 let me give you the main thing that
00:43:28 goes along hello here
00:43:31 oh no i thought i heard the other person
00:43:33 so i see
00:43:35 i see little icons now that they’re um
00:43:38 mike is muted i asked him to on me
00:43:41 because i
00:43:41 actually would rather have people be
00:43:44 part of the conversation but
00:43:46 it’s up to them um so but let me
00:43:50 so lately i’ve been studying
00:43:54 the constellations
00:43:58 um and my main purpose for this
00:44:02 was to help figure out
00:44:05 god’s calendar and when the start of the
00:44:08 year is
00:44:09 that was my main purpose for it but
00:44:13 um i’ve learned some more other than
00:44:15 that
00:44:16 and so this little youtube series
00:44:20 let me
00:44:21 [Music]
00:44:28 so um
00:44:32 one of the constellations the scorpion
00:44:37 um oh scorpio
00:44:47 i’m not okay so one virgo
00:44:51 scorpion i’ll do that one so let’s see
00:44:54 if we get a picture here
00:44:57 anyone sharing that link to his um
00:45:00 [Music]
00:45:02 channel so that i can like yeah i put it
00:45:05 in the chat
00:45:05 oh um i’ll give it to you
00:45:09 in facebook too okay
00:45:14 oh hold on
00:45:18 uh sure we can do this document soon we
00:45:21 can pause it
00:45:22 um do you want to do it or now we can
00:45:23 pause and then we get back to this
00:45:25 um you can do that yeah okay all right
00:45:27 so i’m gonna pause and we’ll get back to
00:45:29 this
00:45:29 okay okay if you don’t mind going back
00:45:32 to
00:45:33 um well you know
00:45:37 share this after sacrament yeah yeah
00:45:39 yeah i just we’re paused we’ll we’ll go
00:45:41 back to this after that’s fine
00:45:44 like i
00:45:52 yeah okay
00:45:55 all right um so do you have the emblems
00:46:01 i i do okay
00:46:05 uh i i don’t know if phoenix
00:46:08 do you want to do sacrament with us
00:46:15 um i don’t hear you you can type in the
00:46:18 chat
00:46:20 okay well i don’t want to wait too long
00:46:23 for them to answer on that
00:46:26 so if you got him with you i’m ready
00:46:41 oh they just said sure i’d love to okay
00:46:44 so
00:46:44 um go get your emblems i use bread and
00:46:48 wine
00:46:48 but you can use bread and water if you
00:46:51 want i’m
00:46:52 whatever you want to use
00:46:55 and so what i do is um i say the prayers
00:46:59 um if you’re male you can say one of
00:47:02 them with me
00:47:03 if you want um
00:47:07 but i’ll say one i’ll do the bread is
00:47:09 what i do
00:47:10 and then we eat i eat a little bit
00:47:13 um but i’m willing to wait if you want
00:47:15 to eat all your bread
00:47:16 and then i say the one for the wine and
00:47:18 then i drink some wine and then i go
00:47:20 interchangeably
00:47:21 um drinking and eating the rest um
00:47:24 i i i don’t do little dinky cups
00:47:28 i have a big cup of wine
00:47:36 and then i have two slices of homemade
00:47:38 bread
00:47:39 actually oh i’m jealous homemade
00:47:43 yeah um so
00:47:47 i it’s you know in the scripture
00:47:50 especially 35
00:47:51 18 it says they were filled
00:47:54 and there’s multiple meanings to that
00:47:56 but the deeper meanings don’t contradict
00:47:58 the lower meanings or the the higher
00:48:00 meanings or the
00:48:02 more obvious meanings i do believe a lot
00:48:05 with the mundane meetings yes yeah
00:48:07 that’s better than i was
00:48:09 um we’re twisting up a little bit um
00:48:13 so i don’t know if you actually heard
00:48:15 any of that
00:48:16 so um let us know when you’re ready you
00:48:19 got the emblems and
00:48:20 then we can do the blessing
00:48:24 actually let me go get some actual
00:48:28 let me get the proper drink okay all
00:48:30 right
00:48:32 now i’ll get off my knees while i’m
00:48:33 waiting for you guys
00:48:59 all right so let me go find
00:49:03 the video that goes along with what we
00:49:04 were just chatting about
00:49:06 um but i came across a video on a torah
00:49:10 group
00:49:11 where um but i shared it in my waking
00:49:14 array
00:49:14 rising group um where there’s this guy
00:49:18 claiming to be god and he’s
00:49:21 getting a new someone a governor or
00:49:26 something that’s doing a news
00:49:28 um update
00:49:30 on covet and he’s like i’ve given you
00:49:33 a cease and desist
00:49:38 oh here it is um here i’ll let me put
00:49:41 the link in the chat
00:49:42 but it you know it’s funny
00:49:46 and crazy but at the same time is it
00:49:49 really
00:49:52 here it’s not too long so maybe we’ll
00:49:53 sidetrack on this a little bit
00:49:56 can you give me one
00:49:59 tell me when you’re ready
00:50:55 all right so
00:50:59 i i actually i don’t know if this is
00:51:02 real or
00:51:03 um just to be funny but because
00:51:07 it’s
00:51:11 wow that is a full beard
00:51:16 can you hear oh i probably need to plug
00:51:17 the speakers here we go here i’ll start
00:51:19 at the beginning
00:51:37 [Music]
00:52:00 [Music]
00:52:11 there is no law about my lord
00:52:30 oh
00:52:32 [Music]
00:52:43 which are so important
00:52:54 okay that’s pretty much it could you
00:52:56 think that in chat so that i can
00:52:58 well i did i i can put it in
00:53:01 in your facebook chat yeah okay
00:53:05 that might be easier um i’m having a
00:53:08 hard time hearing it i’m gonna have to
00:53:09 watch it again
00:53:10 oh sorry yeah
00:53:15 i don’t know if there’s a way to get the
00:53:16 sound from there to directly
00:53:18 to zoom instead of going through the
00:53:20 speaker so i can see how that
00:53:21 could be not the nicest but
00:53:24 i don’t know did you get at least the
00:53:26 general idea of it
00:53:30 i got that he said he was god a few
00:53:32 times yeah well he
00:53:33 he told the press release they needed to
00:53:34 stop and that he had give them
00:53:36 a summons to cease and desist about
00:53:40 talking about these lies of koben
00:53:44 and that when the people were trying to
00:53:45 get him to to leave he’s like i’m god
00:53:48 and there’s no law above me
00:53:50 and things of that nature now
00:53:55 i think he’s crazy i i hopefully this
00:53:57 was a skit
00:53:58 and not real life though it could be
00:54:00 real life actually i
00:54:01 i have no idea um but
00:54:05 as when we’re talking about with god
00:54:09 yeah that’s what the jews saw right he
00:54:12 he said i’m god
00:54:13 and the jews knew it those who don’t
00:54:15 know it are christians who
00:54:17 ex try to explain away but that’s the
00:54:19 one of the reasons
00:54:20 the jews tried to kill them because he
00:54:22 said i am god
00:54:26 in so many ways but anyways
00:54:31 so it can make one wonder um
00:54:35 if we were there with christ would we
00:54:36 actually believe him or would we think
00:54:38 he’s crazy like that guy in that little
00:54:40 video
00:54:44 you know i honestly don’t know
00:54:48 i guess so i tend to see it as something
00:54:52 like this
00:54:54 um
00:54:54 [Music]
00:54:57 we all so there is a grand plan
00:55:01 of god right yeah and
00:55:06 there’s a lot of intricate
00:55:09 working details that have to
00:55:12 mesh and in order to be able to work
00:55:16 you know they don’t blend together but
00:55:18 they work together like cogs
00:55:20 you know finally teeth cogs
00:55:24 and you actually have to
00:55:28 you know when you have two cogs together
00:55:32 one of them has to go in the opposite
00:55:34 direction
00:55:36 in order for sure yeah
00:55:40 and um
00:55:44 i think we’re all given
00:55:47 different dispositions and
00:55:52 knowledge and
00:55:55 you know different things
00:56:00 for us to do a particular you know we
00:56:02 all are
00:56:03 part of the plan yeah we’re all part of
00:56:07 the machine
00:56:08 yeah even god even uses the evil to
00:56:11 further his purpose right even even evil
00:56:15 has a purpose
00:56:17 and well he uses evil um
00:56:21 so i just want to clarify a little bit
00:56:24 the cult a new age and buddha
00:56:28 and other eastern religions talk about
00:56:30 how you need
00:56:31 good and evil
00:56:34 so and i see things differently in that
00:56:38 in
00:56:38 what i see in the gospel yes there is
00:56:40 evil right now
00:56:42 but it’s not going to continue where
00:56:44 evil
00:56:45 thrives needs good to stay alive
00:56:49 because if they’re all evil who they’re
00:56:51 going to steal from
00:56:53 and you know control and all that jazz
00:56:57 for the good they don’t need the evil to
00:56:59 be good
00:57:00 it’s only the evil that needs the good
00:57:04 right and of course there’s always that
00:57:07 opposite
00:57:09 no matter how you cut it i mean for
00:57:11 instance
00:57:12 if you were to stand on the right hand
00:57:14 of god you would be on the left hand of
00:57:16 you
00:57:18 not sure right right
00:57:22 yeah you you pick one or the other you
00:57:24 pick life
00:57:25 or death you don’t get to pick some
00:57:29 mixture of life or death it’s you get to
00:57:31 pick one or the other
00:57:33 and if you think you get to pick some
00:57:34 mixture you’ve actually chosen death
00:57:38 because you haven’t drugged mine
00:57:47 but i think i i think you generally say
00:57:49 what i’m talking about
00:57:50 sure yeah there’s still yeah if you’re
00:57:54 on the right hand of god you’re on the
00:57:56 left hand of satan yeah
00:58:00 um but i honestly don’t know
00:58:04 you know i mean i think i have
00:58:09 the knowledge that i have or the role
00:58:12 that i’m meant to play
00:58:16 in you know in this particular
00:58:19 point in the game
00:58:23 if you want to call it a game the plan
00:58:25 the whatever okay
00:58:27 and i don’t know
00:58:30 if i would have you know and a lot of it
00:58:34 is
00:58:36 well i guess it is necessarily hindsight
00:58:38 because
00:58:39 you know this the testimonies of the
00:58:44 of the apostles available to just about
00:58:47 everybody
00:58:48 but not everybody is able to accept them
00:58:53 or accept them on the same level sure
00:58:56 right
00:58:56 and no i hear you i
00:59:00 i know when i was lds i always had the
00:59:02 question if i didn’t grow up with truth
00:59:04 but i accept it
00:59:05 i never knew the answer until i accept
00:59:08 the truth
00:59:10 um now i will also say
00:59:14 it’s been over years of thinking and
00:59:16 figuring it out
00:59:18 right
00:59:22 when i was lds looking hindsight now
00:59:24 would i have accepted
00:59:26 jesus if he was you know during his
00:59:28 mortal ministry
00:59:30 i hope so um and my hope in
00:59:34 saying that is that well when i actually
00:59:36 came across truth that contradicted what
00:59:38 i
00:59:39 thought i actually accepted it um
00:59:42 and if you’ve done the same i would say
00:59:45 that
00:59:48 maybe you can drive the same idea i mean
00:59:50 i’m still figuring things out it’s not
00:59:52 something that’s
00:59:53 figured out all at once it takes time
00:59:56 right i mean i mean like the the whole
01:00:01 um electric universe theory right well
01:00:04 well i’m just i was talking about
01:00:05 accepting christ but um even just
01:00:07 electronic universe world it takes time
01:00:10 i mean you’re you’re using you’re using
01:00:13 the analogy of
01:00:15 because i i was able to accept certain
01:00:18 knowledge
01:00:19 uh when presented that you you hope that
01:00:23 you you know you’re projecting in the
01:00:24 way of you’re hoping
01:00:26 that if you had been presented with the
01:00:28 opportunity to accept christ
01:00:30 while he was living that you would have
01:00:33 yes i may not have
01:00:35 right at first um but i i
01:00:38 i do think i would after some time
01:00:42 as because of what i’ve gone through in
01:00:44 my life myself
01:00:45 um i i’ve i’ve accepted some hard truths
01:00:51 which is it’s been some costly
01:00:54 but that’s fine um i have more peace now
01:00:58 but um i think if if your
01:01:01 if your analogy is true i think the
01:01:04 the results for me would have been
01:01:07 different
01:01:08 it would have been i would have been
01:01:10 more like paul
01:01:11 than peter than that
01:01:15 for sure wait until after jesus had died
01:01:18 before i go oh oh
01:01:24 yeah it was a big a big switch for paul
01:01:28 right yeah one extreme to the other
01:01:31 extreme
01:01:32 [Music]
01:01:35 um i i
01:01:39 i i may have been more like peter
01:01:42 uh i i don’t know though i i mean
01:01:46 in some ways you know when i woke up
01:01:50 i didn’t really have any questions i
01:01:51 didn’t have a shelf i didn’t even know
01:01:52 what a shelf was
01:01:56 i just wanted more truth and then
01:02:00 i ran across some people who left the
01:02:02 church and i’m like oh here let me help
01:02:04 you come back let me look in the issues
01:02:05 i’ll help you with this
01:02:07 because what did i have to fear right
01:02:09 like um
01:02:10 what’s his name says hold on i always
01:02:13 forget his name but i can go get it
01:02:17 uh j ruben clark if we have the truth
01:02:19 that cannot be harmed by investigation
01:02:21 if we not have the truth it ought to be
01:02:23 harmed
01:02:25 i believed it i still do um
01:02:29 so i went looked and i found some things
01:02:31 that
01:02:32 the church did and
01:02:37 i believe i accepted the truth i know a
01:02:39 lot of people tell me
01:02:40 well tell me otherwise but they can just
01:02:43 say it they can’t show it
01:02:45 i can show it i can expand the
01:02:48 scriptures
01:02:49 and show it they can’t they just have
01:02:52 their traditions and they get mad
01:02:57 if you have the truth why are you mad
01:03:02 yeah actually that
01:03:06 um that was actually one of the
01:03:10 arguments that
01:03:11 um oh i think i’ve talked to you about
01:03:15 the nephite explorer
01:03:16 before yeah um when i recall off
01:03:19 what we talked about him was the about
01:03:22 word of wisdom
01:03:24 um primarily i mean we may talk to other
01:03:27 things but i think that’s the main thing
01:03:28 we talked about
01:03:29 that was primarily what we talked about
01:03:30 yeah um
01:03:32 but he was talking about how
01:03:36 he wasn’t he wasn’t convinced anymore
01:03:39 about how
01:03:39 our modern interpretation of the
01:03:44 word of wisdom yeah i don’t agree with
01:03:47 every point that he made in the series
01:03:48 but overall
01:03:50 i think it was a pretty good series if
01:03:51 nothing else it’s definitely a good step
01:03:54 to help people wake up to the problems
01:03:56 um right
01:03:58 i i you could just for me i didn’t i
01:04:01 woke up to the issue
01:04:02 long before and that his series came out
01:04:06 um which is probably why i was able to
01:04:08 comment a lot on it if you go back and
01:04:10 look i have a lot of comments
01:04:12 but um but for me it’s the text
01:04:18 and then history was helpful on it but
01:04:21 if you’re just relying what other people
01:04:23 said historically you get a lot of
01:04:24 contradictory statements
01:04:26 and so oh my gosh
01:04:30 and part of that i see is that the
01:04:32 bringing my leaders
01:04:33 were fighting over what they wanted it
01:04:35 to be
01:04:36 they didn’t care about the text they
01:04:37 cared about their own vain imaginations
01:04:39 in their
01:04:40 and their glory not god’s
01:04:43 because if they really wanted gods they
01:04:45 would teach
01:04:47 what the revelation actually states
01:04:53 back here i i’m just i might be doing a
01:04:56 little overkill but
01:04:58 that that’s a big deal for me so let me
01:05:01 just
01:05:01 show some scriptures
01:05:06 but um why do we want scriptures anyways
01:05:10 keeping the commandments of god as they
01:05:13 are written
01:05:16 have written
01:05:19 um one of us end up communicating with
01:05:22 him
01:05:23 upon sinai two tablets of testimony
01:05:26 in fact those are called testimonies
01:05:28 against
01:05:29 the believers because they were breaking
01:05:32 it
01:05:32 later on but anyways um take the
01:05:36 book of the law
01:05:39 these ones i’d have to get into it but
01:05:42 anyways
01:05:43 um you get the picture right
01:05:47 why how they are written
01:05:51 and what the earliest church does for
01:05:53 the word of wisdom
01:05:55 completely contradicts it even just
01:05:58 verse number two not by commandment or
01:06:02 constraint and what they actually do is
01:06:04 constraint and constraint means taking
01:06:06 away
01:06:06 privileges when they don’t do something
01:06:08 that you want them to do and that’s what
01:06:10 they’re doing
01:06:11 they’re taking away privileges they’re
01:06:13 constraining
01:06:15 of their faults incorrect interpretation
01:06:21 you know i
01:06:24 so i joined this group on facebook
01:06:27 called men of god
01:06:30 and it’s not during that one maybe
01:06:36 anyway i don’t think i don’t comment
01:06:40 very often but
01:06:41 you know they there’s a whole range of
01:06:44 people
01:06:46 a whole range of people i mean talk
01:06:48 about
01:06:49 an absolute rainbow coalition of
01:06:52 you know people who who
01:06:56 [Music]
01:06:58 make a claim to the atonement of christ
01:07:02 or want to sure
01:07:06 well it’s a free gift to everybody
01:07:10 in fact when we accept christ
01:07:14 we don’t have every figure everything
01:07:15 figured out oh for sure
01:07:18 but as we continue in the walk with him
01:07:20 we will then continue
01:07:22 to start all coming in alignment with
01:07:25 his teachings where what i see going on
01:07:28 in the world today especially in
01:07:30 religious areas is
01:07:32 oh let’s go talk about how we can how
01:07:35 you like things how i like things and we
01:07:37 just be okay that we’re different
01:07:41 where to me that’s the wide way
01:07:47 i want the straight and narrow and that
01:07:51 comes from one source
01:07:53 from god and his word
01:07:56 um but
01:08:03 price said there will be few who find it
01:08:05 i think it’s uncommon
01:08:06 which is that you know i also believe
01:08:09 that
01:08:10 i i believe that you know if you
01:08:14 you will find the way you know there
01:08:16 will be a lot of us
01:08:17 that get a good start
01:08:21 but honestly i don’t even know
01:08:26 if i’m gonna make it to the end goal
01:08:29 i hope but
01:08:32 i also acknowledge that i am fallible
01:08:36 and i am blind and i stumble about quite
01:08:39 a bit
01:08:40 well i no one no
01:08:45 person human mankind knows
01:08:48 everything that god does there’s no way
01:08:50 we can figure out in fact if
01:08:52 we did could we’d be god and that’s just
01:08:55 not going to happen
01:08:57 um so the question is not if we figure
01:09:00 everything out the question
01:09:01 is we have a contrite heart
01:09:06 and a broken spirit are we
01:09:09 sincerely trying
01:09:13 really and that’s something only you and
01:09:15 god
01:09:16 knows if you’re really trying to find
01:09:18 out his ways
01:09:20 because i i believe i am
01:09:23 but i know a lot of people say that they
01:09:26 don’t think i am
01:09:27 but that’s fine it’s between me and god
01:09:30 not me and them
01:09:31 and i i believe i’m on that path and i
01:09:36 still have a lot to unlearn
01:09:38 so i can recognize truth i work at it
01:09:42 if if nothing else else i hope people
01:09:45 can see that at least i am
01:09:46 trying and i’m trying hard um
01:09:50 and it doesn’t even matter i can see
01:09:52 that matters is if
01:09:54 you are trying and that’s between you
01:09:56 and god
01:09:59 if we really are trying we’ll hear his
01:10:02 voice
01:10:03 which will lead us and guide us to be
01:10:05 closer and closer to the point that
01:10:07 we’re like him
01:10:10 um but it takes time that you know one
01:10:12 of my favorite examples of this
01:10:14 of not knowing everything john the
01:10:16 baptist
01:10:17 who christ said was the greatest prophet
01:10:21 he thought christ was coming during the
01:10:23 second coming and not the first coming
01:10:25 john hadn’t figured out
01:10:26 that the first coming had to happen
01:10:28 first i mean that sounds funny
01:10:30 right now right as we’re saying it
01:10:33 hindsight
01:10:34 2000 years later right
01:10:38 but back then with the roman
01:10:42 oppression going on they felt like they
01:10:45 needed the second coming
01:10:47 but that’s not what christ gave them he
01:10:49 gave him the first and john
01:10:51 was thinking it was the second coming
01:10:53 happening
01:10:54 not the first he wanted
01:10:57 the messiah of david but instead he got
01:11:01 the messiah of joseph
01:11:05 and that that desire
01:11:09 a lot of the people at the time made it
01:11:11 so they missed him
01:11:13 in fact a lot of the people now you know
01:11:16 what they want right now
01:11:17 they want messiah been joseph they want
01:11:21 the first coming he’s just going to be
01:11:23 loving
01:11:24 dubbing helping everybody no the second
01:11:27 one is judgment
01:11:30 when he comes you’re not ready you’re
01:11:32 burned
01:11:36 well everybody wants something else
01:11:38 everybody wants the grass
01:11:40 greener on the other side that’s because
01:11:41 they don’t see the in it because
01:11:43 they’re not in it
01:11:45 both sides have problems it’s just you
01:11:48 have to
01:11:48 accept what it’s actually coming and not
01:11:50 try to do something
01:11:52 you know along those lines i was
01:11:53 thinking about judas right a little bit
01:11:55 today
01:11:56 actually i
01:11:59 i haven’t put a lot of thought on this
01:12:01 or studied it in deeply
01:12:03 but here’s the thought i had i think he
01:12:06 believed in christ
01:12:07 but his problem was he had he thought he
01:12:10 had a better plan than christ did
01:12:12 i think he was trying to force
01:12:15 christ to really start doing the second
01:12:18 coming he said the first because he knew
01:12:20 better
01:12:21 than christ did even though he believed
01:12:23 him he thought he knew better
01:12:25 have you ever read the gospel of judas
01:12:28 i’ve read bits and pieces of it i
01:12:31 haven’t read it all in hall
01:12:33 and the stuff that i’ve seen
01:12:36 it’s gnostic in nature right it is
01:12:38 gnostic
01:12:39 definitely um so which is the reason why
01:12:42 i didn’t go further with it because
01:12:44 the gnostic gospel is anti-gospel it’s
01:12:48 antichrist
01:12:50 how i mean genuinely
01:12:53 how um it denies
01:12:57 christ for one it denies the physical
01:12:59 body
01:13:00 it denies the feasts it denies that
01:13:03 christ
01:13:04 actually came down and died for us
01:13:07 that the gnostic gospels say that it’s
01:13:11 knowledge that saves you instead of a
01:13:14 relationship with christ
01:13:15 they think it’s secret is gonna save you
01:13:19 some secret knowledge like greek
01:13:22 knowledge not hebrew knowledge hebrew
01:13:25 knowledge
01:13:26 because to know god is salvation but to
01:13:30 know god is to have a relationship with
01:13:32 him just like how adam
01:13:34 knew eve and so the gnostic
01:13:38 no or the greek no is different than the
01:13:40 hebrew no
01:13:45 in the gnostics focus on the greek note
01:13:47 as in a secret
01:13:49 knowledge as in how we would think of
01:13:51 knowledge not how
01:13:52 hebrews think of knowledge
01:13:57 go ahead what is the what
01:14:01 what cultural or linguistic sense is the
01:14:05 word
01:14:06 no uh in reference to
01:14:09 he knew his wife sex
01:14:14 well i know what it means but what’s the
01:14:16 what’s the
01:14:17 cultural linguistic
01:14:21 origin of that no
01:14:24 oh um i don’t have a good answer for you
01:14:28 right now
01:14:29 um we can go look into it right now if
01:14:31 you want
01:14:32 no no i just it was something that
01:14:36 crossed my mind when you don’t know
01:14:38 it’s a valid question i have not dove
01:14:41 deep enough into that issue to
01:14:43 give you an answer i’m happy to go into
01:14:46 it if you want but
01:14:48 um i don’t know deep enough to answer
01:14:51 that
01:14:54 sorry
01:14:58 stretching when christ talks about how
01:15:01 we need to know him to have salvation
01:15:02 it’s about having a relationship with
01:15:04 him not knowing some secret
01:15:06 knowledge or some secret words that he
01:15:08 said as
01:15:10 gnostics like the plain
01:15:13 it’s about becoming like christ not
01:15:16 knowing something that he said and
01:15:18 becoming like christ
01:15:21 happens because we know him personally
01:15:24 not because of some secret words
01:15:27 in fact christ taught he taught at
01:15:30 his trial if you believe mechanical
01:15:34 gospels
01:15:35 which i do for the most part right
01:15:37 because as far as they’re translated
01:15:38 correctly
01:15:40 he said he taught everything publicly he
01:15:42 didn’t hide anything
01:15:45 and so in judah’s gospel i think or at
01:15:48 least in some of the gospels i don’t
01:15:49 know specifically judas they
01:15:51 they claim because i know the gospel
01:15:54 thomas is
01:15:54 gnostic and there’s some other ones but
01:15:56 they claim christ taught them something
01:16:01 personally some secrets that other
01:16:03 people need to know to be safe
01:16:04 i just i don’t buy it in fact there’s a
01:16:07 quote from joseph smith i like
01:16:09 that also go against it which um
01:16:13 goes against a lot of things that bring
01:16:15 mike’s like to
01:16:16 claim so maybe we’ll i can show it if
01:16:18 you want because it goes along the
01:16:20 subject if you want or we can talk on
01:16:22 other things
01:16:25 um i have the reference it’s just
01:16:30 it’s not in the picture i found the
01:16:32 reference later
01:16:34 um this is a good quote
01:16:38 and and i believe it
01:16:43 and it goes with along with what i’m
01:16:44 saying with uh christ but
01:16:47 i am bold to declare that i have taught
01:16:50 all the strong doctrines
01:16:51 publicly and always seek stronger
01:16:54 doctrines in public
01:16:56 than in private
01:17:01 i believe that’s what christ did i
01:17:03 believe that’s what joseph smith did
01:17:05 and all these claims
01:17:08 from these wicked men saying well joseph
01:17:10 smith taught me this in
01:17:12 private that goes against what he taught
01:17:13 in public
01:17:15 i call sorry for the strong
01:17:18 language but i just do
01:17:20 i call i don’t see that
01:17:24 with christ and i don’t see that with
01:17:26 joseph smith you know what
01:17:27 most of the people out there in the
01:17:29 forums you know what they argue about
01:17:30 all these secret teachings
01:17:33 that supposedly joseph smith taught to
01:17:37 brigham young and all his other damned
01:17:39 cohorts
01:17:43 it’s where they have the book of
01:17:46 mormon
01:17:47 joseph said abide the book of mormon and
01:17:49 all these
01:17:50 supposed quotes contradict the book of
01:17:52 mormon but all these
01:17:53 fundam fundies rely on these
01:17:57 secret doctrines i just call
01:18:02 so would you say that like the polygyny
01:18:05 that they were teaching
01:18:06 would be one of those false doctrines
01:18:09 um yes joseph smith spoke
01:18:14 publicly against it they have no
01:18:17 recorded statement of joseph smith
01:18:20 teaching it
01:18:20 during his life just supposedly joseph
01:18:24 smith teaching it in private
01:18:28 that’s all they have is joseph smith
01:18:30 taught me this joseph has taught me that
01:18:33 they don’t have any recorded statements
01:18:36 from joseph smith
01:18:43 so either joseph smith is a liar and if
01:18:45 he’s a liar
01:18:46 how could you trust him on anything
01:18:50 not to mention what god says about those
01:18:54 i don’t think it’s necessarily
01:18:57 you know i wouldn’t accuse joseph of
01:18:59 being a liar
01:19:02 well i don’t i think he was honest but
01:19:04 the way the quotes that people claim
01:19:06 that are from him that makes him a liar
01:19:09 because he says one thing on record on
01:19:11 recorded
01:19:12 public records one way and then these
01:19:16 evil wicked men claim that he taught him
01:19:18 something else
01:19:19 in private and if those
01:19:23 secret private statements are actually
01:19:25 true which i don’t believe they are true
01:19:26 but if they were true
01:19:27 it would make joel smith a liar and a
01:19:29 hypocrite
01:19:31 so not to conflate
01:19:34 um i’m not saying uh
01:19:39 go ahead and ask i’m not offended you
01:19:41 didn’t do this but
01:19:43 um one could say
01:19:46 that uh jesus
01:19:50 i mean it’s not to say that okay um
01:19:53 one thing that came to mind was there
01:19:56 was a time
01:19:57 when jesus was teaching publicly
01:20:00 uh and he used a parable sure
01:20:04 jesus had parables publicly nobody
01:20:07 really understood
01:20:10 you know and when
01:20:14 in private the apostles
01:20:17 said hey you know jesus
01:20:20 what did you mean by this and jesus
01:20:24 gave a level of explanation it was a
01:20:27 kind of a
01:20:28 private teaching you know what he
01:20:31 but but then he they shared it later so
01:20:34 it could be you know
01:20:35 hearsay but he was well his friend in
01:20:38 the new testament
01:20:39 oh yeah yeah i mean but that’s what i’m
01:20:41 saying they put it into the new
01:20:42 testament later
01:20:43 no no it wasn’t public at the time it
01:20:45 became public later
01:20:46 the the um apostles
01:20:50 still didn’t understand it at the time
01:20:52 it was basically like
01:20:54 so you know assuming that it was
01:20:57 you know and it wasn’t something that
01:20:59 contradicted you know
01:21:00 the the teachings that jesus gave in
01:21:04 private
01:21:04 did not contradict the public teaching
01:21:07 right it was just an expounding on
01:21:11 and it was giving more depth
01:21:15 and um the thing that i came
01:21:19 away with it was that um
01:21:26 that you know there
01:21:28 there’s there’s one layer that’s given
01:21:31 to all
01:21:32 because you know it’s like sure
01:21:36 yeah i and so i can give you scripture
01:21:38 from the book of mormon that i think
01:21:39 goes along with what you’re saying if
01:21:40 you want
01:21:41 i mean it’s like that whole milk before
01:21:43 meat thing you know everybody
01:21:45 uh sure sure so here let me share this
01:21:47 scripture and see if it
01:21:48 kind of helps along with what you’re
01:21:49 trying to say okay because i think this
01:21:52 will go along with what you’re trying to
01:21:53 say
01:21:54 so hold on one second let me get it it’s
01:21:57 one of my
01:21:57 favorite verses and there’s multiple
01:22:00 parts to it but i think one part
01:22:02 uh will go along with what you’re trying
01:22:04 to say
01:22:06 so it’s alma 12 9 9-11
01:22:10 okay
01:22:13 now amma began to expand these things
01:22:16 unto him saying it is given unto many to
01:22:18 know the mysteries of god
01:22:21 nevertheless they are laid upon a strict
01:22:23 commandment that they shall not impart
01:22:25 only
01:22:25 according to the portion of his words
01:22:27 which he does grant under the children
01:22:29 of men
01:22:30 so people
01:22:33 could can only say what god allows
01:22:38 to everybody right and so there are some
01:22:42 things
01:22:42 that only the true believers get to hear
01:22:46 right it’s kind of what you’re saying
01:22:50 is that what you’re trying to say
01:22:55 yeah something along those lines yeah
01:22:58 the book of mormon teaches it i have no
01:22:59 issue with it
01:23:00 but what i see happening i do have an
01:23:04 issue with it
01:23:04 because people will claim especially in
01:23:08 ex-lds forums and whatnot
01:23:13 people are so attracted to people who
01:23:15 claim that they have
01:23:16 all these mysteries but i can show you
01:23:19 from the book of mormon
01:23:20 that the mysteries in in the torah to
01:23:23 knock in the book of mormon
01:23:25 and the stars actually but anyways um
01:23:28 and but people love to go out
01:23:31 and tell people these mystery teachings
01:23:34 right
01:23:35 and and i’ve interacted with some in the
01:23:37 past and i’ll show them how well
01:23:39 the book of mormon contradicts that and
01:23:41 so i’ll ask them
01:23:43 so what’s the thus saith the lord that
01:23:44 goes along with it oh
01:23:46 i can’t tell you that that that is
01:23:48 sacred
01:23:49 and so it’s not too sacred to go
01:23:53 teach it but it’s too sacred to repeat
01:23:55 the actual
01:23:56 words so you can teach it but you can’t
01:24:00 give me the actual thus saith the lord
01:24:02 and i i just don’t believe that either
01:24:04 but here let me
01:24:06 you can give me the information but you
01:24:08 can’t give me the footnote
01:24:09 gotcha right
01:24:13 and that’s just sorry i’m going to say
01:24:15 another strong word
01:24:21 you know i i’m just i i i’m being really
01:24:24 strong because i know
01:24:25 this is how people get people trapped
01:24:27 into their little lies and their schemes
01:24:29 and their cults
01:24:30 and here i have a whole little section
01:24:35 all about publishing god’s words
01:24:39 publishing to all the people i mean here
01:24:43 i you know
01:24:46 i think it this really declare
01:24:49 the this is christ speaking declare the
01:24:51 words which i have spoken unto the ends
01:24:54 of the earth
01:24:57 but so they can teach the teaching but
01:25:00 they can’t give me the source the source
01:25:02 is too sacred
01:25:03 but the teaching’s not i i just that’s a
01:25:06 cult
01:25:06 sorry so i think one reason why
01:25:12 and you know no but i’ve never heard
01:25:15 this link before but i’m gonna say it
01:25:19 um
01:25:23 okay let me let me establish a
01:25:25 foundation first
01:25:27 so i think
01:25:30 knowledge is
01:25:35 given to the level
01:25:38 of this understanding
01:25:42 that the recipient will
01:25:46 understand it yeah i believe that i can
01:25:49 show you in the book of mormon it
01:25:50 teaches that
01:25:50 but sure yeah no issue
01:25:54 it is dangerous
01:25:57 to give knowledge
01:26:01 before a person is ready
01:26:06 one time
01:26:09 it can easily
01:26:12 be i mean the the what’s the one
01:26:16 what’s the one sin
01:26:19 that is technically unforgivable uh
01:26:22 instead of the holy ghost
01:26:24 but you know and that is well
01:26:27 denying the word to deny
01:26:30 in full knowledge yeah it’s deny the
01:26:33 plan
01:26:34 that that’s and unforgivable sin
01:26:37 the thing is is that
01:26:41 when a person receives a fullness of
01:26:44 knowledge
01:26:45 before they’re ready
01:26:49 to receive it
01:26:53 they reject it
01:26:56 or deny it right but
01:27:00 these cults are going out teaching
01:27:04 the the principle and the only thing
01:27:07 they
01:27:07 aren’t willing to share is that the
01:27:10 supposed thus saith the lord they’re
01:27:12 going on teaching the things that they
01:27:13 are claiming is sacred
01:27:15 to these groups to go gather people
01:27:18 into their cults and when questioned
01:27:22 and shown how it contradicts the only
01:27:24 that they will not share
01:27:25 is the supposed thus saith the lord
01:27:29 they’re saying out the teachings to go
01:27:30 gather people into their
01:27:33 darkness but they won’t
01:27:36 give the actual revelation that it comes
01:27:39 from
01:27:40 or showers from the scriptures they say
01:27:42 it’s too sacred to show up from the
01:27:44 scriptures but it’s not too sacred to go
01:27:46 teach it that’s just
01:27:49 silly and i’m actually
01:27:53 i know i’ve been kind of flattened with
01:27:55 it but it actually saddens me that
01:27:57 people fall for that
01:28:00 well i mean it it’s this it’s the flip
01:28:03 side of describing
01:28:06 the way is narrow and
01:28:09 not all will walk the path
01:28:14 i mean if you’re
01:28:17 if you’re not i guess i could say not
01:28:20 everybody except this because it’s the
01:28:21 narrow but
01:28:22 i i mean there’s many ways in the wide
01:28:25 and i just see it’s the y but i kind of
01:28:27 see what you’re
01:28:28 saying is that so there are you know
01:28:32 the the whole point is is that if you’re
01:28:34 on the straight and narrow
01:28:36 you’re saved and if you’re not
01:28:39 the only conclusion is is that you’re
01:28:41 damned
01:28:44 sure but most who are damn don’t think
01:28:46 they’re damned
01:28:48 well of course not nobody not even the
01:28:51 villain wants to think of themselves as
01:28:53 the bad guy
01:28:54 oh no none of them do in fact i
01:28:57 i think it’s the how to win friends and
01:29:00 influence
01:29:00 people um even brings out how
01:29:04 these really wicked men just see
01:29:06 themselves as
01:29:08 as the underdog or or or just the
01:29:11 circumstances
01:29:12 against them but they’re actually really
01:29:14 good people
01:29:16 yeah despite everything that they did
01:29:22 you know it’s one of those things where
01:29:24 even
01:29:29 even hitler
01:29:32 could be considered there were things
01:29:35 about him
01:29:37 and his motivations
01:29:40 that could be described as good when
01:29:43 taken out of the context
01:29:44 oh yeah sure in fact even the evil
01:29:47 people
01:29:48 today think that they’re they’re good
01:29:51 and they actually think some of the
01:29:53 things that they’re doing is actually
01:29:54 bad
01:29:55 but how they justify it is the ends
01:29:58 justifies the means right because
01:30:01 they don’t want this stuff done to their
01:30:02 own family and so they know it’s bad
01:30:06 but they believe because the ends
01:30:08 justify the means
01:30:10 they’re okay
01:30:14 but that’s a false doctrine and i just i
01:30:17 even know good people to think
01:30:18 that the end justifies the means because
01:30:22 they’re trying to do a good thing
01:30:23 that they can lie about it and i just
01:30:27 i don’t buy it the answer does not
01:30:29 justify the means in fact
01:30:31 how do if you think ends justifies the
01:30:33 means how are you any better than what
01:30:36 the liars who think are they’re just
01:30:38 justifying the means right now with the
01:30:39 whole world
01:30:41 are it does not i mean it’s
01:30:45 it could be i mean the the whole ends
01:30:48 justifying the means
01:30:51 i i know that okay i understand
01:30:55 that i am probably taking this out of
01:30:58 context
01:30:58 so make it with a grain of assault all
01:31:01 right
01:31:02 but it reminds me of
01:31:07 if your right hand offends you cut it
01:31:10 off
01:31:14 so uh that’s from the sermon on the
01:31:16 mount and then it’s not literal
01:31:18 um we can talk about that symbolism if
01:31:21 you want
01:31:22 but it’s that it’s that whole
01:31:25 um if the end
01:31:28 you know that is you don’t want to be
01:31:31 offended
01:31:32 you’re justified in handicapping
01:31:34 yourself
01:31:37 um i don’t believe that’s what it’s
01:31:39 saying well i know that i’m
01:31:40 i’m i know that this is a
01:31:42 misinterpretation okay
01:31:45 so if you know if it’s a
01:31:46 misinterpretation why are you using it
01:31:49 in that way and
01:31:52 just see what i’m saying i don’t know i
01:31:54 don’t even see what i’m saying anymore
01:32:00 uh how much um how much of the emblem
01:32:04 did you have
01:32:06 oh my gosh not enough
01:32:10 i had like i probably had maybe like a
01:32:15 third a cup of wine uh diluted with some
01:32:18 water
01:32:19 oh i don’t deal with mine um i have to
01:32:22 delete mine
01:32:23 mine might be that i had more than a
01:32:27 third of cup
01:32:31 but you know because my mine aged a
01:32:34 little longer than
01:32:35 then prescribed by
01:32:39 it was a bit it tends to be a little bit
01:32:41 on the strong side
01:32:43 uh bitter and yeah um well
01:32:47 so you know in the in i think it’s x2
01:32:50 it goes along with this because the
01:32:52 sweet wine is the new wine
01:32:55 like new physically just barely started
01:32:58 the bitter one
01:32:58 is the old wine right in fact
01:33:04 so i i’m just gonna change subject a
01:33:06 little bit and we haven’t even really
01:33:07 talked about the subject that we were
01:33:09 thinking of talking about which i’m
01:33:11 happy to go to if you want but
01:33:13 i i find this interesting right
01:33:17 when you first hear the good news and
01:33:20 accept it it is sweet
01:33:22 and it’s even it’s sweet for me now okay
01:33:24 i’m not saying it’s not
01:33:26 but as you grow into it
01:33:34 it does have some bitter aspects to it
01:33:36 just as
01:33:37 old wine aged wine gets because
01:33:44 there are some aspects that’s hard in
01:33:46 the world not that it’s
01:33:48 hard hard because what it is but it it
01:33:51 is
01:33:51 hard to resist the world and so the
01:33:54 sweetness
01:33:55 does turn into bitter at times if that
01:33:58 makes sense
01:33:59 it turns into ash in your mouth
01:34:03 but still uh i wouldn’t i’ve never eaten
01:34:10 um you lack the benefits of being
01:34:14 neural aberrant
01:34:18 well maybe next time i do uh
01:34:21 an asado slash barbecue i’ll maybe i’ll
01:34:23 all
01:34:24 taste a little bit just because of this
01:34:26 conversation
01:34:28 fact friday i i did one because it’s one
01:34:31 i believe
01:34:32 shavio or slash pentecost was um was
01:34:35 friday but anyways
01:34:36 but i i didn’t taste anything ash left
01:34:39 over
01:34:40 from from the assad um
01:34:44 i think i’ve got another visitor that i
01:34:46 need to take care of
01:34:48 okay you want me pause for a little bit
01:34:50 then yeah if you would
01:34:51 okay
01:34:56 well so i i don’t know if we want to
01:34:59 keep
01:35:00 continuing down these uh side tracks or
01:35:02 if you want to go back
01:35:03 to the main subject that we never
01:35:07 actually touched on until
01:35:09 well i no we did touch on it i opened
01:35:12 the window
01:35:13 yeah okay i opened the window
01:35:17 you showed a video oh yeah i started
01:35:20 okay so let me go
01:35:21 back to that screen um so i mean we did
01:35:24 start
01:35:25 it just we didn’t really do anything
01:35:28 oh that’s right okay go all right so
01:35:30 let’s go back to let me
01:35:32 let me find a good screenshot so i was
01:35:36 so this is a really good series um so i
01:35:39 think i was talking about how i i’m so
01:35:42 before you start playing it okay oh i
01:35:46 don’t know if we should
01:35:46 play especially if you have a hard time
01:35:48 hearing it playing the whole
01:35:50 half hour i gave you the link um
01:35:54 so i’ll give the link again just to make
01:35:57 sure
01:35:58 um because i i probably have the link
01:36:00 for the whole
01:36:01 series and not the specific video but
01:36:03 there’s the one for the specific
01:36:06 so i could if you like can you hear me
01:36:09 okay
01:36:10 yeah i can hear you okay um i could play
01:36:13 it from my computer if you like
01:36:18 if you want to there’s only like
01:36:21 one i’m hoping they have
01:36:24 this is where it’s got the screenshot
01:36:26 and i’m just trying to do the
01:36:29 you know the little hover over and see
01:36:31 the the summary right
01:36:33 and and this is i think i’m on scorpion
01:36:36 with scorpio
01:36:37 yeah i’m on i’m on
01:36:40 oh maybe it’s a there’s two on scorpion
01:36:42 okay so let’s go look at the first one
01:36:44 the scorpion
01:36:45 hold on here um
01:36:49 so there’s two on scorpion
01:36:52 let’s see if there’s a picture
01:36:55 others virgo
01:37:00 virgo
01:37:03 so you’ll probably like this series um
01:37:09 is that oh no
01:37:17 oh come on somewhere in here there’s a
01:37:20 picture
01:37:21 that has a scorpion stinging
01:37:25 christ’s foot and
01:37:28 i i would
01:37:32 okay so
01:37:35 you would think it would be under oh
01:37:36 there’s three on scorpion
01:37:40 okay so let’s go look at the third one
01:37:42 hold on
01:37:48 oh there we there there we go okay all
01:37:50 right
01:37:53 do you see the picture
01:37:56 uh yeah it’s not very clear but no it’s
01:37:59 not very clear on my machine either so
01:38:02 it’s kind of fuzzy but we see a scorpion
01:38:06 stinging christ’s foot
01:38:10 right okay
01:38:14 to me that’s much like how
01:38:17 satan is gonna bruise his heel
01:38:24 and if i’m remembering correctly
01:38:28 um that’s what this video kind of talks
01:38:31 about
01:38:32 is how scorpion is another
01:38:36 symbol for satan
01:38:40 partly because of what’s turned the
01:38:43 mazeroth
01:38:45 which is the con it’s the hebrew word
01:38:47 for the constellations
01:38:48 um in fact this guy gets into how
01:38:51 the the greeks modified
01:38:56 the constellations to be
01:38:59 a bit different than what they were
01:39:00 originally
01:39:02 and it’s probably in video one that he
01:39:04 talks about how
01:39:07 there’s been one or a couple found of
01:39:11 the
01:39:12 one from the time of adam and they can
01:39:14 date it to adam because
01:39:16 when they do all uh
01:39:19 the math for all the stars to get
01:39:22 everything to fit
01:39:23 it shows it’s from adam’s time um
01:39:26 like with um stellarium right
01:39:30 i i think that’s the name i have
01:39:32 stellarium on my computer but i haven’t
01:39:34 figured out how to use it
01:39:36 so if you’re into the stars i would love
01:39:39 to learn how to
01:39:40 use stellarium um anyways
01:39:44 um i i have it i don’t know how to use
01:39:47 it
01:39:50 and i haven’t spent a lot of time on it
01:39:51 either but anyways
01:39:53 but so he talks about how
01:39:57 this uh mazeroth or the
01:40:01 the constellations and they can date it
01:40:04 back to adam’s son
01:40:06 you know give or take 600 bc or no 600
01:40:09 400 bc sorry um
01:40:13 um but anyways and this was on it and
01:40:15 this picture is
01:40:17 from that um from that
01:40:22 maserati or the the pictures from that
01:40:26 picture of constellations with the
01:40:28 scorpion
01:40:29 stinging the foot and that reminded me
01:40:33 of one thing that we talked about a long
01:40:35 time ago right
01:40:36 um and but i i think
01:40:40 that the better interpretation
01:40:45 is that it’s representing satan in fact
01:40:49 um we can go
01:40:52 to the scriptures now if you want um
01:40:56 real quick to
01:40:59 the topical guide so after i saw that
01:41:02 video
01:41:03 right i went to the topical guide
01:41:08 and wondering um well i’m going to look
01:41:11 at scorpion
01:41:14 so not the topical guide’s not perfect
01:41:19 um but it is still a handy tool
01:41:22 there’s things that they’ve purposely
01:41:24 left out but anyways
01:41:27 um it is still a handy tool
01:41:37 so let’s just let’s go look at
01:41:40 revelations one
01:41:41 okay and we can look at all
01:41:47 that’s the one i i was like hey what a
01:41:50 couple
01:41:50 what about six months ago yeah i think
01:41:54 it was more than six months but yeah
01:41:56 yeah yeah the revelation nines three
01:41:59 so
01:42:02 when i look at that even the context
01:42:05 around it with the i
01:42:06 with this idea from the maserath i see
01:42:08 something different
01:42:10 okay so we can go start at one
01:42:14 and and then we and then i looked at
01:42:16 some of these others that we can talk
01:42:17 about after
01:42:18 um if you want and have time or we can
01:42:21 do it another time
01:42:22 um i’m fine with whatever but anyways
01:42:25 and the fifth
01:42:26 angel sounded and i saw a star fall
01:42:29 from heaven okay what is the star that
01:42:32 fell from heaven
01:42:34 satan right
01:42:38 and to him was given the keys of the
01:42:41 bottomless
01:42:42 pit hell right
01:42:45 and he opened the bottomless pit and
01:42:47 there arose
01:42:48 smoke out of the pit
01:42:53 and i’m not quite sure exactly how to
01:42:55 interpret all this but
01:42:56 anyways and this
01:43:00 and the smoke of a great furnace uh
01:43:03 burning in hell and then
01:43:06 you know there’s people that say you
01:43:08 don’t burn in hell they actually
01:43:10 i mean they really try to make a good
01:43:12 argument from that from the bible and i
01:43:13 just
01:43:14 it’s a great burning furnace
01:43:17 in fact you know here’s i’m just going
01:43:19 to digest just a little bit
01:43:21 especially since friday i just did uh
01:43:25 study about pentecost
01:43:29 you know we can choose things to do we
01:43:32 can choose either life or death
01:43:34 and and i believe and i think the
01:43:37 scriptures
01:43:38 support this that part of choosing life
01:43:42 is
01:43:44 is worship being yahweh
01:43:47 his way and that includes the feasts and
01:43:50 part of the feast
01:43:52 is to
01:43:56 cook meat and then eat it
01:43:59 roast it and so either we can
01:44:04 choose to burn someone else’s flesh or
01:44:07 we can burn
01:44:08 our flesh if that makes some sense there
01:44:12 um anyways well isn’t the point of the
01:44:16 burning to
01:44:17 burn away the blood i mean
01:44:20 so um so it depends on which sacrifice
01:44:24 because
01:44:24 um because on the part that
01:44:27 that you don’t get to eat is burning of
01:44:29 the fat and the fat
01:44:31 represents sin um and so
01:44:35 uh on the part that you don’t eat that
01:44:37 you give the levites that
01:44:38 it it’s burning of the fat and the fat
01:44:42 represents the unclean thing because if
01:44:44 you get into kosher
01:44:47 um it doesn’t explicitly say it in the
01:44:51 scriptures so
01:44:52 take this as a grain of salt but i do
01:44:54 believe it
01:44:55 that it is unkosher to eat the organs
01:44:58 and the fat
01:44:59 and i think even science confirms this
01:45:03 in that science has shown that most
01:45:05 diseases
01:45:06 live in the fat of the animal
01:45:09 not the actual meat and
01:45:12 when you eat diseased portions of
01:45:16 the food you’re more likely to get those
01:45:18 diseases
01:45:20 so i know that the fat is
01:45:24 so especially the outer fat
01:45:27 if i understand it correctly is
01:45:31 where the body so
01:45:34 the body is very much like a
01:45:37 a clam or a mollusk in that
01:45:41 any poisons toxins
01:45:45 um these things that the body cannot
01:45:48 expel
01:45:50 will actually be encapsulated in the fat
01:45:53 like a pearl
01:45:54 oh yeah i was saying that yes so i’m
01:45:56 agreeing with you
01:45:58 maybe i didn’t say it the best but yes
01:46:00 that’s that’s
01:46:02 in essence what i was saying so
01:46:05 the whole new thing
01:46:08 that eating fat is dangerous actually
01:46:11 does make
01:46:12 a sense scientifically right it’s unco
01:46:15 and i believe and i was maybe the part
01:46:18 that made it a little more confusing was
01:46:20 that i was adding that it’s unkosher
01:46:22 it’s unclean anything unclean is a sin
01:46:26 and that’s why i’m saying it’s
01:46:27 connecting it where
01:46:29 in the sacrifices where it’s burning the
01:46:31 fat it you’re burning your sin
01:46:34 right so i was adding more to that
01:46:37 another thing that i i’m if you don’t
01:46:40 mind me pointing out
01:46:42 well that’s fine um
01:46:43 [Music]
01:46:45 so one of the things like if you were to
01:46:48 consume
01:46:50 uh another band you know animal human
01:46:53 whatever
01:46:54 um one of the things straight up
01:46:58 that you don’t want to consume is the
01:47:00 blood correct
01:47:02 that’s it against but yes the the blood
01:47:06 holds and i do find it interesting
01:47:10 that in sacrament the first thing we
01:47:12 consume
01:47:14 is blood so
01:47:18 no i don’t care
01:47:21 we do bread first you’re right
01:47:24 we do bread we just did it we do bread
01:47:26 and then blood
01:47:28 but i mean it’s wine which represents
01:47:30 the blood of christ
01:47:32 so even if it is
01:47:35 figurative the point is is that
01:47:42 before christ all sacrifice you know
01:47:46 it was just you don’t consume the blood
01:47:50 of the sacrifice
01:47:53 but with jesus
01:47:56 consuming the sacrifice
01:48:00 you also are instructed to consume the
01:48:03 blood
01:48:04 where i don’t believe oh you mean is in
01:48:07 sacrament it’s
01:48:08 well it is well i mean we’re instructed
01:48:12 to consume the blood great
01:48:15 blood not animal blood
01:48:18 it’s so i know that the sacrament
01:48:22 is a figurative
01:48:25 of the sacrifice of the lamb
01:48:32 jesus is the sacrifice right um
01:48:38 but rather you’re looking at it
01:48:40 figuratively or literally
01:48:44 up until that point it was
01:48:49 forbidden to consume
01:48:53 the blood because the blood belonged
01:48:56 to god
01:49:00 but i i don’t believe sacrament was new
01:49:03 with
01:49:04 christ’s moral ministry i it’s
01:49:07 so there before no it was not part of
01:49:10 his mortal ministry but it was
01:49:12 it was done at the passover before
01:49:16 his crucifixion well so i don’t believe
01:49:19 the last supper was
01:49:20 passover but we can get into those
01:49:23 details
01:49:24 but i do know a lot of people do believe
01:49:26 it is i do not
01:49:28 so it was the last meal that they had
01:49:30 before
01:49:32 passover right right yeah yeah so i mean
01:49:35 i i’m not gonna
01:49:37 not to argue you know time you know
01:49:40 chronological
01:49:42 detail the point is is that the last
01:49:44 meal
01:49:45 jesus shared with his disciples
01:49:49 well he gave cher implies he had it he
01:49:52 he didn’t
01:49:53 drink it um so he gave
01:49:56 he presented it to people yeah
01:49:59 um and the point is is that
01:50:06 he was i mean when he’s saying
01:50:09 you know eat of this this is my flesh
01:50:12 drink of this this is my blood
01:50:14 um
01:50:17 even if you take it on a a figurative
01:50:20 symbolic level
01:50:23 the change and
01:50:26 you may not consume this do it
01:50:30 go consume it that change
01:50:35 is just what i’m pointing out well
01:50:39 um so i see where you’re getting at but
01:50:42 if
01:50:43 hebrews the jews
01:50:47 it was common for them to have bread and
01:50:50 wine
01:50:50 together abraham did it with melchizedek
01:50:56 i mean a lot of
01:50:59 a lot of christian um
01:51:04 uh rights like baptism
01:51:09 uh sacrament um you know
01:51:12 you name it a lot of the they’re not new
01:51:15 sacrament was done before and so was
01:51:17 baptism
01:51:18 i mean i believe in the book of mormon
01:51:22 it completely shows baptism was before
01:51:25 john the baptist and the dead sea
01:51:27 scrolls shows that
01:51:28 also it’s it’s not real clear
01:51:32 in the old testament slash tanakh but it
01:51:34 is
01:51:35 in there also and one thing i actually
01:51:37 like from this series of stinging the
01:51:39 scorpion
01:51:41 he doesn’t actually come out and say it
01:51:43 but there are
01:51:45 some of the episodes in this series
01:51:48 that brings out how when animals go
01:51:51 through water they gain more strength
01:51:53 and to me that really sounds like
01:51:56 baptism so what i’m going to say
01:52:00 is that these things these
01:52:03 rights that christians have
01:52:07 are evolved or outgrowth
01:52:11 of actual jewish
01:52:14 and other
01:52:18 religions of the area um
01:52:24 jews do baptisms they don’t call it that
01:52:26 by that word but they
01:52:28 do do them and and even when john the
01:52:31 baptist
01:52:32 was doing it they didn’t ask him what
01:52:33 you’re doing they asked him by what
01:52:35 authority because they knew what they
01:52:36 were doing
01:52:37 he was doing right they’re wondering by
01:52:40 whose authority
01:52:42 there’s and some people will like
01:52:45 try to construe it what’s going on john
01:52:48 the baptist and the pharisees like it’s
01:52:50 something new no
01:52:51 he didn’t ask him what he was doing he
01:52:53 asked them by what authority
01:52:55 because the pharisees and the sadducees
01:52:58 are all about
01:52:59 you have to get your authority from some
01:53:01 other man
01:53:02 rather than god right but the
01:53:06 you know i mean even aaron moses’s older
01:53:08 brother
01:53:10 was told what three four
01:53:14 six or seven times to
01:53:18 go wash himself to go bathe
01:53:22 oh yeah the the tabernacle has that
01:53:30 unless i’m wrong it’s my understanding
01:53:33 that the the bathing
01:53:36 for cleanliness to to purify
01:53:40 is it is basically
01:53:44 literally the you know
01:53:47 the pre-christian baptism oh
01:53:50 uh i i’d go further than that the
01:53:54 jews actually baptized they still do it
01:53:58 it’s just not talking about in in the
01:54:00 christian
01:54:01 religion because it would make it sound
01:54:03 like it’s not new and unique to them
01:54:06 right baptized right by immersion in
01:54:09 fact
01:54:10 they even have this um little joke
01:54:14 if you’re holding an unclean thing and
01:54:16 you’re baptized at the same time
01:54:18 are you now clean i mean
01:54:21 that little joke kind of really gets
01:54:23 into some really
01:54:25 deep theological questions for them
01:54:28 but just the fact that they have the
01:54:29 joke shows that they actually do believe
01:54:31 in
01:54:32 baptism it’s just not talked about right
01:54:36 they have it
01:54:40 they have real common knowledge except
01:54:42 that the jews and
01:54:43 anyways i mean they they don’t attach
01:54:48 they don’t attach the gravity of
01:54:51 of certain things like
01:54:55 being a sign of being saved or something
01:54:57 or being a sign of
01:54:59 you know i mean it’s for them
01:55:02 i think they’re they’re a lot closer to
01:55:04 the true meaning
01:55:05 they’re they’re in fact here if so just
01:55:09 to go on more side tracks
01:55:10 let me show you on a post that i’m need
01:55:13 to finish
01:55:14 um a little bit because it goes it deals
01:55:17 with this subject the book of mormon
01:55:25 okay okay
01:55:29 do we need to close down no i just need
01:55:31 to be more quiet
01:55:33 so um let me find this
01:55:37 oh here we go um sometimes i talk too
01:55:41 loud
01:55:45 so the book of mormon teaches that
01:55:47 baptism
01:55:48 is a witness of a covenant
01:55:52 not the covenant itself um and so
01:55:55 i mean this is my favorite verse that
01:55:57 teaches it
01:55:59 probably because it’s the first one i
01:56:01 saw it in but it’s in in other places
01:56:03 but mosaic 18 10 you know
01:56:06 was i 18’s a lot about baptism and
01:56:10 things that you need to do with it the
01:56:12 covenant before it
01:56:14 but now i say unto you if this be desire
01:56:18 of your hearts
01:56:19 what have you against being baptized in
01:56:21 the name of the lord
01:56:23 as a witness wait
01:56:27 as a witness before him
01:56:30 now witness you can only witness of
01:56:33 something you’ve already done
01:56:34 right that you have entered in a
01:56:37 covenant with him
01:56:38 but you may serve him and keep his
01:56:40 commandments that he may pour out his
01:56:42 spirit
01:56:43 more abundantly upon you so but on the
01:56:46 part on the
01:56:47 baptism part as a witness before him
01:56:51 that you have entered covenant a witness
01:56:55 uh well okay so i don’t want to go find
01:56:58 it in here
01:56:59 you know that this that does have some
01:57:02 heavy implications in and of itself but
01:57:04 that’s oh yeah yeah
01:57:05 and another time for another time
01:57:08 because we could go look at the
01:57:08 definition of witness
01:57:11 it’s you can’t witness to something that
01:57:14 you
01:57:15 didn’t already do so now that we’ve had
01:57:18 this tangent let’s get back to the
01:57:21 scorpion okay the heel here okay all
01:57:24 right
01:57:24 all right yeah so let’s go back to um
01:57:28 revelations we we always get on tangents
01:57:30 but that’s fine because we’re helping
01:57:31 each other
01:57:32 right i well i mean how often do we get
01:57:36 to discuss
01:57:36 these these incredible things that just
01:57:40 kind of well
01:57:43 you don’t get it in church
01:57:47 you won’t get it in church any that i’ve
01:57:50 gotten
01:57:51 gone through right because they
01:57:54 they they all that i’ve gone through is
01:57:56 they have these prepared lessons and
01:57:58 they don’t really
01:58:02 they may entertain a question a simple
01:58:04 question here and there but
01:58:07 they’re more concerned about finishing
01:58:10 their lesson
01:58:11 than helping people with questions which
01:58:13 i find wrong
01:58:14 and i this is a big deal to me well i
01:58:18 think it really depends on the teacher
01:58:20 too
01:58:21 uh yes i would agree with that because
01:58:23 one i was teaching i
01:58:25 i didn’t care about the lessons plan so
01:58:26 much i mean i tried to keep with it
01:58:29 but if someone had a question it was
01:58:30 more important for me to
01:58:33 do that then do the lesson if you’re
01:58:36 there to help people
01:58:38 but you don’t care about their questions
01:58:40 and helping them are you really there
01:58:42 to help them well the whole point of
01:58:45 church is to edify each other
01:58:47 right well and you do that by helping
01:58:50 each other and answering
01:58:51 each other’s questions but yeah rowan 96
01:58:54 9 and their meetings were conducted by
01:58:57 the church after the manner of the
01:58:59 workings of the
01:59:00 spirit oh not unless not a lesson plan
01:59:03 and by the power of the holy ghost by
01:59:06 the power of the holy ghost not a lesson
01:59:08 plan
01:59:09 for as the power of the holy ghost led
01:59:11 them to whether to preach
01:59:13 or to exhort any you know call
01:59:16 repentance
01:59:18 or to pray or to supplicate
01:59:21 or to sing or even so it was done
01:59:26 there wasn’t a plan they did as the
01:59:29 spirit
01:59:29 director all churches i’ve been to
01:59:32 there’s a plan
01:59:33 i i just in fact
01:59:36 um i’ve listened to
01:59:40 pagan christianity and it goes into
01:59:42 details how
01:59:44 christianity took this idea that
01:59:47 everything needs to be pre-planned
01:59:49 and that there’s these teachers that
01:59:50 teach you that you have to listen to
01:59:53 from paganism well
01:59:56 i i’m afraid that
02:00:00 i tend to be of the school of thought
02:00:03 that
02:00:04 there does i think there does need to be
02:00:08 a
02:00:09 a guide post but
02:00:12 um i certainly do
02:00:15 appreciate the teachers who
02:00:20 you know i mean the teachers that i’ve
02:00:23 had so i i still go to the mormon church
02:00:26 and stuff
02:00:28 i kind of oh my gosh okay
02:00:32 uh in some ways i’ve kind of fallen off
02:00:34 the bandwagon just a bit
02:00:36 okay um
02:00:40 it was just an absolute shock but you
02:00:42 know
02:00:43 i was approached probably about two
02:00:45 months ago
02:00:47 a little about a month and a half ago
02:00:50 yeah about a month and a half ago
02:00:52 um the bishopric
02:00:57 just out of the blue is like hey
02:01:01 uh can i come it was like it was like he
02:01:03 was the first
02:01:04 he was the first counselor okay and he’s
02:01:07 like
02:01:09 yeah can i meet with you i’m like
02:01:12 oh geez what did i do now but i’m like
02:01:15 yeah sure
02:01:17 you know that’s not a good thing if
02:01:19 that’s what the first thing that pops in
02:01:21 their head
02:01:22 when the bishopric talks to them because
02:01:24 you’re not the only one that has
02:01:25 has that happened through right he like
02:01:29 you know here i am thinking i am
02:01:32 enough of an outsider that i’m you know
02:01:35 i’m safe i’m safe right
02:01:38 no i’m not safe not safe at all
02:01:42 he comes over you know i told him yeah
02:01:44 you can come over
02:01:45 you can meet with me so he’s
02:01:48 sitting on so back in november
02:01:51 i i took up vaping again
02:01:56 because i the stress of everything
02:02:00 my excuse is the stress and it’s just
02:02:03 so i’ve been basically smoking
02:02:07 since november okay well that’s what i
02:02:09 thought you meant by
02:02:11 by the vaping but i’m not real familiar
02:02:13 with that
02:02:16 um
02:02:18 says wine and beer and wine and beer
02:02:21 are actual natural antidepressants
02:02:24 i i would ling you more towards that way
02:02:26 but i mean
02:02:28 no not yeah but um so
02:02:33 i mean and i made it i didn’t
02:02:35 necessarily make it a secret
02:02:37 i mean the first time i met the bishop
02:02:39 he became bishop in
02:02:41 about november no december
02:02:45 okay and he came over you know he was
02:02:49 just installed and
02:02:50 and he was doing the rounds of meet and
02:02:53 greet
02:02:54 right sure he comes over
02:02:57 and i was on the porch doing my smoking
02:03:01 thing
02:03:02 when he drives up he and his wife and
02:03:05 the
02:03:05 look on their faces you know is like
02:03:09 i’m like oh god this is not going to go
02:03:13 well
02:03:14 so a month and a half ago
02:03:18 the first you know the first president’s
02:03:20 like well not the first person
02:03:22 counselor he’s like yeah i want to come
02:03:24 meet you so he comes over
02:03:26 and i’m on the porch vaping
02:03:30 he’s like we have a calling for you
02:03:34 i’m like okay i have this look on my
02:03:37 face like
02:03:38 what
02:03:41 and he’s like yeah we want you to like
02:03:44 be the librarian i’m like what
02:03:52 i’m like i mean i have hardly walked
02:03:55 into that church since
02:03:56 since covid started i haven’t watched
02:03:59 any of the meetings that they
02:04:01 broadcasted
02:04:03 you know i yeah and
02:04:06 i mean i was like i was as jack mormon
02:04:09 as
02:04:10 possible sure you might be jack i’m an
02:04:13 extra wet mormon
02:04:18 but um yeah so
02:04:22 i mean they they knew they knew
02:04:25 i was breaking the word of wisdom as per
02:04:28 their understanding of it
02:04:30 they’re freaking making a calling to me
02:04:32 okay
02:04:34 i mean if they’re gonna do that um i’ll
02:04:37 play ball
02:04:38 you know so well
02:04:41 i that’s you know they’re trying to
02:04:44 involve you but that
02:04:45 i don’t blame them for that right
02:04:48 i mean it’s one thing to fellowship i
02:04:50 mean the the
02:04:52 when i was still a smoker from before
02:04:55 you know like
02:04:56 20 years ago um
02:04:59 [Music]
02:05:00 my i was
02:05:03 fellowshipped basically by the bishop
02:05:06 and
02:05:07 how he fellowshipped me was he’s like
02:05:10 my father was also a bishop and one
02:05:12 thing that he always told me
02:05:15 was uh when it dealt when he was dealing
02:05:18 with like the
02:05:19 inactive people or people who had you
02:05:21 know
02:05:22 bad habits and stuff like that he said
02:05:25 he would say to
02:05:26 those people i would rather smell the
02:05:28 smoke in the church than not at all
02:05:31 yeah well um that visit was more wise
02:05:35 than many
02:05:37 yeah but like i said i mean if they
02:05:40 wanted to fellowship me just to
02:05:42 fellowship me
02:05:44 they could have just said something like
02:05:45 that it would have been fine
02:05:47 i don’t see how putting me in the
02:05:48 library is like
02:05:50 well it’s bringing you to the church
02:05:56 so i liked home teaching okay
02:05:59 i loved it but i have learned it was
02:06:02 actually bringing
02:06:03 brigham young’s way to spy on the
02:06:06 members to make sure that they were
02:06:07 complying with his
02:06:09 unrighteous dominion but
02:06:12 i i liked it um
02:06:18 but if you really want a fellowship you
02:06:20 could be their friend which is what i
02:06:22 tried to do with the inactive is go be
02:06:24 their friend
02:06:25 i even that was my focus on um
02:06:29 even those who were active in fact
02:06:33 so my last home teaching calling was
02:06:36 one of the families i had was the eldest
02:06:38 quorum president
02:06:40 himself and his family right did you get
02:06:43 the whole family not just one person
02:06:45 um and their son was somewhat struggling
02:06:48 and this was all while i was starting to
02:06:51 wake up
02:06:52 but i you know i was pretty good at not
02:06:54 exposing
02:06:55 that right um
02:06:59 and they loved me and
02:07:02 when and their son and i actually helped
02:07:05 them
02:07:06 his son start believing in the gospel
02:07:08 more because i could
02:07:10 take what was going on in his life and
02:07:12 relate it to him
02:07:14 i could take the parables on the spot
02:07:18 and help him with it right i didn’t have
02:07:20 some
02:07:21 i i had something somewhat prepared
02:07:24 before but
02:07:25 it didn’t fit what was going on after
02:07:27 you know fellowshipping with them
02:07:29 i changed it i wasn’t so worried about
02:07:31 the lesson i’m more worried about the
02:07:33 people
02:07:33 anyways in fact
02:07:36 i went skydiving with the son before he
02:07:39 went on his mission
02:07:40 because of the some of the connectedness
02:07:43 that
02:07:43 we got from that but anyways um
02:07:48 when i told him i didn’t want a home to
02:07:50 i i didn’t feel comfortable home
02:07:51 teaching
02:07:52 anymore after a while because i’m trying
02:07:54 to bring people to church that like
02:07:56 i like didn’t believe it anymore before
02:07:59 i remove my name
02:08:01 um and he’s like why you’re like the
02:08:03 best one i’ve had
02:08:06 and i just told them i didn’t feel
02:08:07 comfortable with it i didn’t get any
02:08:09 details
02:08:09 for them yeah i told them no they
02:08:12 actually have
02:08:13 so you’re right the the home teachers
02:08:16 and the visiting teachers
02:08:18 um were much more focused on the lesson
02:08:22 getting the lesson in but
02:08:25 about five years ago they did a major
02:08:28 change
02:08:29 where they they they’re like okay we’re
02:08:32 not doing home teachers we’re not doing
02:08:33 visiting teachers we’re doing
02:08:35 ministries and
02:08:38 so it was a delightful change
02:08:42 in that i could go and i could
02:08:46 be
02:08:46 [Music]
02:08:49 i could be their neighbor
02:08:52 say okay how are you doing how can i
02:08:55 help you
02:08:57 you know that was the emphasis that they
02:08:59 changed it to
02:09:01 was to be a good neighbor
02:09:04 to be a good you know to be a friend to
02:09:09 you know the fellowshipping was you know
02:09:11 actually
02:09:13 to seek to fulfill their needs not just
02:09:18 give them some sort of lip service to
02:09:20 get them into church
02:09:22 sure and that’s one change that i really
02:09:25 appreciated
02:09:27 did they actually implement well then
02:09:30 because
02:09:31 that was after i i moved in argentina
02:09:33 and
02:09:34 i’ll tell you i don’t think i could fit
02:09:37 into church anymore
02:09:38 because for one i won’t wear um money
02:09:41 clothes
02:09:42 or business clothes which is money
02:09:44 clothes um
02:09:45 the church anymore and that that will
02:09:47 just turn a lot of people off so i don’t
02:09:48 think i’ll fit in anymore
02:09:50 yeah um i
02:09:53 so i’ve been on both ends of
02:09:57 the ministry thing you know where i was
02:09:59 assigned
02:10:00 a few people and i was also
02:10:05 um where they would come and see me
02:10:09 yeah and i’d have to say
02:10:13 it really has been different um
02:10:17 occasionally one of them might want to
02:10:20 do a quote out of the ends in or
02:10:21 something
02:10:23 but by and large it is
02:10:27 it is literally a hi i’m here in the
02:10:30 capacity of being a friend
02:10:33 how are you doing what do you want to
02:10:36 talk about
02:10:38 how can i help you
02:10:42 mean that really is what it is
02:10:45 well for what i’ve seen you know for
02:10:48 80 plus percent of the time that’s good
02:10:51 that’s just kind of what i did before i
02:10:54 i mean this might
02:10:55 not sound the best but to some degree i
02:10:57 thought i was an exciting friend
02:10:59 and that’s well yeah i can make him a
02:11:01 friend that’s
02:11:03 how when i was doing the visiting
02:11:05 teaching schtick before they changed it
02:11:08 um i did my best to minimize and
02:11:13 even avoid the lessons because it was
02:11:15 like
02:11:16 unless it seems pertinent to this person
02:11:18 at this point
02:11:20 it just seemed like
02:11:24 busy work it felt like busy work yeah
02:11:28 so when i met with actives they pretty
02:11:30 much wanted the lesson so i
02:11:31 i would do it um and if they wanted it
02:11:34 straight out of the enzyme like they
02:11:36 feel like it’s somewhat typically done
02:11:38 i i was fine with that but like i said
02:11:40 with
02:11:41 with the elders quorum presidency most
02:11:43 of the time i didn’t
02:11:44 because it was just better to focus on
02:11:47 their needs and
02:11:48 scriptures that apply to what was going
02:11:50 on their lives at that point rather than
02:11:53 what someone dictated to me to do i
02:11:57 decided to go buy this spirit like six
02:11:59 or only six
02:12:00 nine but what do i know um
02:12:07 so it’s nice to hear that they’ve kind
02:12:09 of changed the focus
02:12:10 um on that and it sounds like maybe it
02:12:13 it’s actually done well
02:12:16 they do have a way to go but there has
02:12:19 been
02:12:20 there has been some proper refocusing
02:12:24 on gospel and applications of gospel
02:12:30 it just it’s sad it took him so long it
02:12:32 makes me wonder where the revelation
02:12:34 is but that’s another subject
02:12:40 anyways um do you want to go back to
02:12:43 revelation 9
02:12:46 yes um
02:12:48 oh just one other thing on on home
02:12:51 teaching i remember
02:12:52 uh when you know some leaders wanted
02:12:56 perfect numbers
02:12:57 they’re like well if all you can do is
02:12:58 just give them a call
02:13:00 we’ll count that and you know what i was
02:13:03 a rebel
02:13:03 i wouldn’t tell them if i couldn’t go
02:13:05 meet them i wouldn’t tell them that
02:13:07 i tried but i couldn’t i was like i
02:13:09 didn’t
02:13:10 and they tried to talk it out of me they
02:13:12 could make it so they could count the
02:13:13 number i wouldn’t do it
02:13:15 i was not about the numbers i was about
02:13:17 the people
02:13:19 and they wanted numbers
02:13:22 um so i was a rebel there
02:13:25 there’s a lot of i you know even though
02:13:29 even you know
02:13:32 i i do go to church
02:13:36 you know before corona i was doing the
02:13:39 church thing on a
02:13:40 relatively regular basis and
02:13:45 of all the times that you know of all
02:13:47 the years i’ve gone to church
02:13:49 i think maybe only a handful of times
02:13:51 and it’s usually because somebody else
02:13:52 has decided to do it for me
02:13:55 um i never mark myself on the rolls
02:13:58 ever oh like you know what it’s not your
02:14:01 bit
02:14:02 you know i understand why they’re doing
02:14:04 it but
02:14:06 it’s for me you know i’m there
02:14:10 because i feel
02:14:13 i feel like the spirit has told me i
02:14:15 need to be there
02:14:16 no you know even after i moved my name i
02:14:19 still enjoyed
02:14:20 going right although i you know
02:14:23 disagreed more with various things and i
02:14:26 tried to
02:14:28 carefully bring things up from the
02:14:30 scriptures right
02:14:32 right but i i just
02:14:35 especially with kovid i just i won’t i
02:14:38 won’t wear a mask
02:14:39 to to church yeah
02:14:42 they most of the people
02:14:46 over at the ward that i go to
02:14:49 actually don’t wear masks there’s only
02:14:51 like a handful of people who wear masks
02:14:53 still
02:14:55 and do you think they’d be okay if i
02:14:56 didn’t wear um business clothes
02:15:00 okay so another thing
02:15:03 so i i told you about the smoking part
02:15:05 right
02:15:07 but
02:15:11 i i couldn’t find my little my my
02:15:14 thin knit sweater that i normally wear
02:15:17 so last sunday
02:15:20 yesterday i went to church
02:15:24 and a t-shirt and blow jeans
02:15:28 and hospital socks what are hospital
02:15:32 socks
02:15:34 when you go to the hospital they give
02:15:35 you those little booty socks
02:15:37 oh it’s the booty so okay so
02:15:41 i went to church and and and bandanna on
02:15:44 my head
02:15:45 i think i’ve gotten worse looks for
02:15:47 going with this with the skull print
02:15:49 bandana
02:15:51 but i go to i’ve gone to church with
02:15:54 a skull print bandana uh feather print
02:15:58 bandana
02:15:59 um a few other random
02:16:02 paisley patterns um
02:16:07 i wear
02:16:10 t-shirts with eagles on it or dragons on
02:16:14 it
02:16:14 or you know just
02:16:20 i i i’ve never worn my artemis shirt
02:16:25 but um
02:16:31 one second
02:16:39 oh wrong one huh
02:16:44 oh
02:16:46 so other than the artemis shirt so if
02:16:49 you replace the artisanal shirt
02:16:52 with an eagle
02:16:56 this is how i looked going to church
02:16:58 yesterday
02:17:03 how was it taken
02:17:08 they’re getting used to it okay i mean i
02:17:11 still get the dirty looks every once in
02:17:13 a while
02:17:15 but um
02:17:19 i
02:17:25 i still get the the looks of oh
02:17:28 you you foul thing that has dirtied my
02:17:32 holy sanctuary
02:17:34 you know every once in a while but for
02:17:36 the most part
02:17:39 um yeah you know what that reminds me of
02:17:43 alma 31
02:17:48 you’ll have to bring that up in a minute
02:17:50 but okay
02:17:51 for the most part they are kind
02:17:55 they are friendly um
02:17:58 they’ll say hi to me they’ll wave
02:18:01 they’ll smile
02:18:03 you know they they’ve started
02:18:06 they have basically mostly accepted me
02:18:14 for what i present
02:18:19 and um the dirty looks that i get
02:18:23 tend to come from the new ward members
02:18:24 who are just coming in and have to get
02:18:26 used to it
02:18:28 okay well at least they get the older
02:18:30 ones get used to it
02:18:34 but you know i mean the the
02:18:37 relief society uh presidency
02:18:40 treats me pretty decently you know
02:18:43 they’re they’re kind
02:18:44 the bishopric is kind to me
02:18:51 the um are kind to me i think they the
02:18:54 worst
02:18:56 probably the the worst
02:19:00 um interaction i’ve had
02:19:04 was the day that i was
02:19:08 um confirmed into my my calling
02:19:13 um there was a another
02:19:16 there was another gal who was actually
02:19:19 from
02:19:20 i think she’s like oh she was like
02:19:24 from one of the the the
02:19:27 countries of in the bahama islands area
02:19:31 okay and so
02:19:35 the thing is is that the first counselor
02:19:39 is married to this
02:19:42 to a black woman okay
02:19:46 and um
02:19:49 the the gal from the the bahamas area
02:19:54 uh also black so
02:19:58 um as i was coming into the church i see
02:20:03 the first counselor’s wife who i was
02:20:06 actually trying to
02:20:07 get a hold of from before to go to lunch
02:20:10 with because
02:20:11 you know we were were kind of friends
02:20:14 you know okay and i saw her
02:20:18 and and the bahama woman
02:20:22 and her daughter all walking in and
02:20:24 they’re all black
02:20:26 and they’re the only black ones in the
02:20:27 ward you know i live in
02:20:30 i live in vanilla land here you know and
02:20:34 you know you talk with people walking in
02:20:38 at the same time
02:20:42 i thought they were all related and i
02:20:45 asked
02:20:46 april are these you know are these your
02:20:49 relatives
02:20:50 and the bahama woman absolutely got
02:20:54 offended how dare i
02:20:57 apparently i can’t differentiate
02:21:01 black people and therefore
02:21:05 i think she thinks i’m a racist well
02:21:09 statistically whites have a harder time
02:21:12 just disinteresting blacks and blacks
02:21:13 have a harder time just to
02:21:15 distinguish wives and asians have a
02:21:18 harder time
02:21:18 whites and whites asians and and and
02:21:21 same thing with the blacks and asians
02:21:22 it’s
02:21:23 just it’s not what we’re used to yeah
02:21:26 i mean i think she her her daughter
02:21:30 understood the fupa and
02:21:33 actually said something kind of
02:21:34 supportive she’s like hey
02:21:36 and adam we’re all related right
02:21:40 right yeah and i was like yeah i’m cool
02:21:43 with her
02:21:44 but i think she was i think her mom
02:21:48 was also
02:21:51 i mean not just that the foo paw that i
02:21:53 did with her but
02:21:55 it was the fact that i was dressed the
02:21:57 way i was dressed
02:21:59 so you got you almost had your third
02:22:01 strike huh
02:22:02 oh i i definitely got it to
02:22:05 i definitely felt like i was getting it
02:22:07 to the fourth degree
02:22:09 from her you know but
02:22:13 i mean
02:22:16 so and and she wasn’t
02:22:20 i mean she was kurt
02:22:23 and just you know
02:22:28 not she was just oh jeez
02:22:31 but like she was looking to be offended
02:22:35 are you oh no i don’t think she was
02:22:38 i don’t think you have to look for
02:22:39 reasons to be offended when you’re
02:22:41 offended by
02:22:42 when you’re already offended you know
02:22:44 okay good point
02:22:45 um that was that was the worst
02:22:49 of it and at least in recent memory
02:22:53 and she
02:22:56 i think she studiously ignores me at
02:22:59 this point
02:23:00 i can he’ll feel it every once in a
02:23:02 while from her like
02:23:05 outside of that before i uh
02:23:09 i came to argentina i went to my mom’s
02:23:11 ward
02:23:12 like every week and i just
02:23:15 you know it asked me to move my records
02:23:17 like oh i’m gonna you know i’m gonna go
02:23:19 to argentina in a while
02:23:20 so i i could kept i just kept putting
02:23:23 off with that and so
02:23:24 there’s also i could you know fit in um
02:23:27 but i i still remember the sunday
02:23:30 teacher
02:23:30 did not like me because i would ask
02:23:33 these questions
02:23:34 and and bring these scriptures out that
02:23:36 she just did not like
02:23:38 um and and oh i remember one time
02:23:42 they asked me to pray
02:23:46 and i prayed how joseph smith thought
02:23:50 with the arms up and so i went in front
02:23:52 of the class and prayed like this
02:23:55 and i got a lot of strange looks they
02:23:57 never asked me
02:24:03 but people actually started warming up
02:24:04 to me and what i was saying
02:24:06 and teaching and bringing out from the
02:24:08 scriptures but it took them a while
02:24:10 right because i was teaching something
02:24:12 strange
02:24:14 but they did actually start warming up
02:24:15 to me um right
02:24:17 it’s just before that i went to some
02:24:20 other churches
02:24:21 that um heber roots or some jewish ones
02:24:25 or other
02:24:25 christian ones the problem is
02:24:32 it seems like everybody else at least
02:24:34 this is where i was
02:24:35 um at this time twila which is right
02:24:37 next to salt lake drive
02:24:39 where i grew up in salt lake but my mom
02:24:40 moved it but anyways
02:24:43 um they have to rag on joseph’s myth
02:24:49 it’s like it’s part of their lesson plan
02:24:51 and i
02:24:54 won’t keep my mouth shut i won’t bring
02:24:56 it up but if they do
02:24:57 i won’t keep my mouth shut and then they
02:25:00 say i’m welcomed
02:25:02 after that but
02:25:05 uh no i’m not there’s a different spirit
02:25:09 that they have
02:25:10 with me after i open my mouth to defend
02:25:14 um i mean it sometimes
02:25:18 when people like
02:25:24 do that kind of stuff you know i mean
02:25:29 when they when they curse my foundation
02:25:32 [Music]
02:25:34 but praise my my structure
02:25:37 it’s it feels like
02:25:42 they go out into you know they go onto
02:25:44 the garden they cut off a flower
02:25:46 and they bring it in and then they
02:25:48 wonder why it dies
02:25:50 that’s a good analogy yeah
02:25:56 yeah so i
02:25:59 i i don’t know what i’ll do when i get
02:26:02 back to
02:26:03 mistakes um because i you know i i want
02:26:06 to
02:26:07 fellowship with fellow believers but
02:26:10 i right now i don’t feel comfortable
02:26:13 wearing
02:26:14 money clothes to church
02:26:17 because that’s mixing god and mammon
02:26:19 together
02:26:20 and so i i may try one surprise to go to
02:26:23 no no no no no no don’t even try
02:26:25 if you if you know that it’s not for you
02:26:27 don’t
02:26:28 oh no i i’m fine with the war it’s just
02:26:31 i won’t wear the clothes
02:26:35 it has been
02:26:39 what six years
02:26:43 about about five at least five years
02:26:49 since i have ever worn any garments
02:26:53 and at that point i’ve only only i’ve
02:26:55 only ever worn them
02:26:57 twice and the only reason i wore them
02:26:59 was so that i could do
02:27:02 uh my uh endowment
02:27:06 and my ceiling so when you got your live
02:27:10 one
02:27:12 um what when you got your personal life
02:27:16 yes okay well i
02:27:20 so after my name i i still wore mine
02:27:23 for i think it was four years if i
02:27:25 remember correctly
02:27:27 um because i actually enjoyed the temple
02:27:29 but
02:27:30 um i finally listened to something that
02:27:33 god told me
02:27:34 and i took them off and
02:27:37 uh they’re they’re being used as rags
02:27:41 right now to claim
02:27:42 thanks right
02:27:47 um but it took me a while to let go of
02:27:49 that one um but
02:27:51 since then i haven’t worn it and i never
02:27:53 will again
02:27:56 um
02:27:58 right now i right now it’s winter where
02:28:00 i’m at but you know opposite seasons
02:28:03 and so i have um
02:28:07 what did they call it now i don’t
02:28:09 remember
02:28:10 but i just have an undershirt that’s
02:28:12 what it is i have an undershirt just for
02:28:14 the
02:28:15 warmth issue um but in the summer i
02:28:18 don’t wear anything like that
02:28:20 is there any way that you can get
02:28:22 yourself a little louder maybe move the
02:28:23 mic towards your mouth a little bit more
02:28:25 or something uh
02:28:26 yeah sorry i’m just trying to be careful
02:28:28 so that way i don’t wake up my wife
02:28:30 um is that better i’m like struggling
02:28:33 more and more to try to hear you and so
02:28:35 it’s like um
02:28:38 you hear this i’m tapping my it’s a
02:28:40 little better
02:28:42 okay no i can’t hear you tapping oh
02:28:45 maybe it’s not going through there maybe
02:28:48 i’ll just get maybe it’s going through
02:28:49 the computer i’ll escape
02:28:50 is that better a little bit do you need
02:28:53 to change the battery out maybe
02:28:55 no it’s flashing blue
02:28:58 which tells me it’s got battery so i
02:29:02 when i when i plug it in the computer
02:29:06 um has this little pop-up it says
02:29:08 headset
02:29:09 with microphone and i pick that but
02:29:13 maybe it’s not working correctly i
02:29:16 i you might have to you might have to
02:29:19 adjust it with the zoom
02:29:21 because i mean so like when i turn my
02:29:24 camera on
02:29:25 uh technically i actually have two
02:29:27 cameras
02:29:28 and i expected the one to come on but it
02:29:30 turned out it was the other one
02:29:33 so you might want to check your
02:29:39 system which um
02:29:43 you should be doing and but i can do
02:29:44 headset with mike
02:29:47 is that better
02:29:51 i’m having a hard time hearing any
02:29:53 difference well
02:29:56 let me let me unplug you can tell me
02:30:02 no it’s worse now it’s worse okay i’m
02:30:04 gonna go back then
02:30:06 um maybe adjust the sensitivity of your
02:30:09 mic
02:30:10 um oops
02:30:15 let me see if i can find how to do that
02:30:18 oops that’s not what i want to do
02:30:25 audio settings
02:30:29 microphone it’s
02:30:32 almost it’s it’s at the the top
02:30:35 now is that better it’s a little better
02:30:39 okay well i
02:30:43 part of the problem might be that this
02:30:44 is really old
02:30:47 um if you
02:30:50 want to keep coming because it’s on
02:30:51 mondays for a while and that might be a
02:30:53 good time for you
02:30:54 um i’ll try to set up my bluetooth one
02:30:57 to go through the computer
02:30:58 and that would be better probably
02:31:02 so i actually normally have a monday
02:31:06 thing
02:31:07 that i i skipped out on it this time
02:31:09 because
02:31:10 it has been a while since i’ve been able
02:31:12 to enjoy you know
02:31:15 this habit but
02:31:18 um i mean maybe
02:31:22 well um maybe if you can’t come again
02:31:26 this moon cycle
02:31:27 um maybe next moon cyclone i can still
02:31:29 work on getting the bluetooth one
02:31:30 because that would probably be better
02:31:32 because maybe part of the problem is
02:31:33 this headset’s it’s old and i do know
02:31:35 it’s kind of falling apart because i
02:31:39 i glued parts of it back together to get
02:31:42 it to keep working
02:31:44 because i i actually like it
02:31:47 but i i so i started taking it to the
02:31:51 gym
02:31:54 and the cable started ripping you know
02:31:56 because the exercise
02:31:58 going all over the place and it it
02:32:01 started ripping
02:32:02 and that’s why i got the bluetooth one
02:32:03 so i could take it to the gym and not
02:32:05 worry
02:32:06 um but it’s the one i use with my phone
02:32:08 all the time now
02:32:10 but i’ve avoided
02:32:13 bluetooth because of the you know
02:32:17 radial frequency um
02:32:20 but because of what happened with going
02:32:22 to the gym and using the headset
02:32:24 and the cable thing i kind of learned
02:32:26 that
02:32:27 well although i prefer cables
02:32:31 they have some problems yeah
02:32:35 or you know another thing you could
02:32:37 possibly
02:32:39 i don’t know if you can even get wire uh
02:32:42 sets anymore but um
02:32:44 [Music]
02:32:46 uh yeah it’s i’ve had to replace
02:32:51 uh there i’ve come across wired headsets
02:32:54 that i absolutely love but after beating
02:32:56 them up
02:32:57 you know i’ve i’ve had to replace them
02:33:00 oh yeah well i’ll
02:33:01 i’ll figure out the bluetooth because my
02:33:03 current phone
02:33:05 i like it but one thing i don’t like it
02:33:07 doesn’t have a three and a half jack
02:33:09 for a headset or you know my um it’s
02:33:13 it’s the samsung s
02:33:17 21 if i remember correctly
02:33:20 i don’t even remember anymore um
02:33:24 my windows 10 phone died early in the
02:33:27 year
02:33:28 and so i i got forced to buy on the move
02:33:32 oh dear i was trying to put it off until
02:33:34 i came back to the stage but
02:33:36 it didn’t quite happen
02:33:39 it died yeah no you got to have
02:33:42 in this day and age you gotta have a
02:33:44 phone and it’s sad that windows phones
02:33:47 aren’t exactly
02:33:48 around anymore i think they did they
02:33:51 completely stopped making them i’m not
02:33:53 sure
02:33:53 uh they did otherwise they would have
02:33:55 got one because i actually like them
02:33:58 i love having my windows phone they had
02:34:00 like superior photography and everything
02:34:03 yeah there was a lot of things that they
02:34:05 did better um
02:34:09 they did things too soon and that hurt
02:34:12 them
02:34:13 and because of that hurt they waited too
02:34:15 long to get back in the market and that
02:34:17 hurt them even more
02:34:19 yeah but anyways
02:34:25 it’s just it’s not an option anymore um
02:34:27 so
02:34:28 i got an android i’d rather have an
02:34:29 android than apple
02:34:31 uh so let us get back to the scorpio
02:34:35 okay all right let’s get back to the
02:34:37 score three times the term we can do it
02:34:40 you know i’m not too worried about it
02:34:41 this is like i said this is more about
02:34:43 helping each other than having to finish
02:34:44 a lesson
02:34:45 but um all right so
02:34:49 all right the star fell from heaven
02:34:53 you know that’s obviously satan and he
02:34:55 opened the bottomless
02:34:57 satan the burning the great furnace
02:35:02 and the sun and the air were darkened by
02:35:05 the
02:35:06 reason of the smoke of the pit you know
02:35:08 blocking out light
02:35:11 there’s probably more to it than there
02:35:12 um revelations
02:35:14 is not my strong point um but anyways
02:35:18 there are some resources i i want to
02:35:19 look into but i’m so busy with other
02:35:22 things
02:35:22 everything else that i’m trying to do
02:35:24 it’s hard um
02:35:26 anyways here’s here’s the verse with the
02:35:28 scorpions
02:35:30 and there came out of the smoke locus
02:35:33 upon the earth and unto them was given
02:35:37 power as the scorpions
02:35:39 of the earth have power so
02:35:42 i you know with the context just
02:35:45 before that it really makes me sound
02:35:48 like scorpions deal with
02:35:50 satan and devils
02:35:53 especially um
02:35:56 what really got me started thinking
02:35:57 about that was
02:36:00 after watching that series with the
02:36:04 um nazar the constellations
02:36:10 um where the scorpion
02:36:13 is steam the foot
02:36:16 of the savior
02:36:22 now uh one thing that let’s go back to
02:36:26 the scriptures
02:36:28 um
02:36:32 screen let’s go look at some of the
02:36:34 other verses
02:36:36 that they have here so
02:36:40 this luke 11 12 is real interesting
02:36:44 so ask an a will he offer him a scorpion
02:36:48 let’s go look at the whole thing
02:36:51 um
02:36:56 okay so
02:37:00 it’s from the lord’s prayer just casting
02:37:03 out devils he claims himself is greater
02:37:05 than
02:37:06 jonah and solomon he broke the
02:37:09 pharisees and says the blood of all the
02:37:11 prophets
02:37:12 may be fired of their generation that’s
02:37:16 you know talk about that video about
02:37:18 being kind of crazy right a guy calling
02:37:21 him lore
02:37:21 you go tell the current religious
02:37:23 leaders all the
02:37:25 the blood of the saints of the prophets
02:37:27 before
02:37:28 at your hands that’s pretty bold
02:37:32 so i want to say something really quick
02:37:34 here sure
02:37:36 it is um so
02:37:39 this is just me and my paralleling here
02:37:41 okay but
02:37:43 or if he shall ask an egg will he offer
02:37:46 him a scorpion
02:37:47 okay here’s the crazy thing
02:37:50 okay
02:37:54 vaccines are
02:37:59 produced multiplied
02:38:03 by the use of an egg say that one more
02:38:06 time
02:38:07 all vaccines oh okay they’re produced
02:38:10 by using chicken egg
02:38:13 to um
02:38:19 cause the multiplication of these
02:38:22 trickery
02:38:23 you know the the at the vaccine’s house
02:38:27 i was not aware of that i don’t think
02:38:29 that’s what it’s talking about
02:38:31 but i can i can see the parallel you’re
02:38:33 bringing out with that
02:38:34 it gets even more it gets even more oh
02:38:37 okay go ahead
02:38:40 the new mrna
02:38:43 vaccines that they use
02:38:46 for the coronavirus the pfizer
02:38:50 moderna yeah um
02:38:54 i think even the astrazeneca
02:38:58 so they
02:39:02 used scorpion venom
02:39:08 isolate the spike one protein
02:39:11 that they use to
02:39:15 force the body to create antibones
02:39:18 oh boy
02:39:22 you you follow the vaccine stuff a lot
02:39:23 more than i do i mean i’m not gonna get
02:39:25 it but
02:39:26 you know more details on it than i do
02:39:30 um i i i did not know they were using
02:39:34 that from the scorpions on some
02:39:38 and here’s the crazy thing what it’s the
02:39:41 spike one protein
02:39:43 um in so spike the spike one protein
02:39:48 is actually a natural component of the
02:39:52 the coronavirus right
02:39:55 and it also
02:40:00 um directly affects
02:40:03 the pulmonary system
02:40:06 and placenta
02:40:11 connection
02:40:15 so we are potentially
02:40:20 pro the people who have taken
02:40:23 these vaccines
02:40:27 are priming their body for
02:40:32 heart failure
02:40:35 and pregnancy
02:40:39 failure well i’ve come across articles
02:40:42 where they
02:40:43 talked about the pregnancy failure
02:40:44 issues um
02:40:46 and when they’re having or becoming
02:40:49 um so i i i’ve known about that one i
02:40:53 didn’t know about the heartland
02:40:56 um in fact i
02:41:00 there’s a guy called that has a channel
02:41:02 called new to torah
02:41:03 he’s even made that connection himself
02:41:06 with the pregnancy issues not not the
02:41:09 heartland but the pregnancy
02:41:12 um and how during uh
02:41:16 noah’s are not known as moses’s time
02:41:20 that one of the complaints against the
02:41:22 israelites that they were multiplying
02:41:25 but which brings i don’t remember all
02:41:29 the exact details
02:41:30 i just kind of remember vaguely what’s
02:41:32 there
02:41:33 that they were multiplying more than the
02:41:36 egyptians
02:41:38 and why would that be
02:41:42 to both humans are they taking things
02:41:49 were the egyptians taking things that
02:41:51 were harming their pregnancy right
02:41:54 um i’m having a hard time hearing you
02:41:58 okay let me try to talk a little bit now
02:42:01 maybe i’ll is that better if i hold it
02:42:03 up no that’s so much better
02:42:05 okay well maybe i’ll hold it up then i’m
02:42:07 sorry
02:42:08 thank you no that’s fine so uh
02:42:11 there’s a channel on youtube that i like
02:42:13 new to torah um and originally what he
02:42:15 puts on
02:42:16 youtube is it it’s uh generally keeps it
02:42:18 like five to 15 minutes so it’s pretty
02:42:20 short and they’re they’re kind of most
02:42:22 of them are pretty good i like
02:42:24 um anyways huh
02:42:27 give me the link to that channel too oh
02:42:30 okay
02:42:30 all right um but anyways one of the
02:42:32 videos he was
02:42:34 bringing out this connection between um
02:42:38 the problem that the vaccines are
02:42:40 causing with pregnancies
02:42:42 to um during moses day
02:42:45 when he was born that
02:42:48 the egyptians were complaining that the
02:42:51 israelites were multiplying like
02:42:52 insects
02:42:56 but we’re both humans i mean not both
02:43:00 both groups of people are humans right
02:43:02 israelites and the egyptians
02:43:04 why weren’t the egyptians multiplying
02:43:08 and he has proposed it’s because they
02:43:11 were taking something
02:43:13 that was harming their ability
02:43:17 to reproduce
02:43:22 very possible yeah i i thought it was
02:43:25 um very plausible i i don’t know
02:43:28 for sure one way or the other um because
02:43:31 sometimes we can read into texts
02:43:33 too much um and so
02:43:36 i i see the possibility i don’t know if
02:43:40 it’s
02:43:42 doctrinal truth but it he does make a
02:43:44 good point for it
02:43:46 and in that one of the complaints of the
02:43:49 egyptians were
02:43:50 that they were multiplying and
02:43:53 did they and he was proposing that
02:43:55 perhaps the egyptian leaders
02:43:58 caused it on purpose so that way they
02:44:00 can have a more complaint against the
02:44:02 israelites to kill them
02:44:05 and control them but anyways because
02:44:09 you know you can’t just go
02:44:12 kill babies without dehumanizing
02:44:16 them because you know they were actually
02:44:18 born where i know a lot of people kill
02:44:20 them while they’re not born
02:44:21 nowadays but they they still have to
02:44:25 dehumanize them to do that um so it
02:44:28 still
02:44:29 applies but anyways you get the point
02:44:32 right
02:44:33 right um anyways so
02:44:36 i believe and this is something i need
02:44:40 to get more into
02:44:41 and uh um i’ll show you what i have
02:44:45 right now on this but i
02:44:48 actually right now believe that the
02:44:51 egg represents christ and the scorpion
02:44:55 represents satan in that verse in luke
02:44:57 11 12.
02:44:59 now in fact maybe we could look real
02:45:03 quick from the scriptures
02:45:06 but i can show you what makes originally
02:45:09 got me to think that first if you want
02:45:12 um but maybe i’ll do that so
02:45:16 there’s a fairy tale i think everybody’s
02:45:18 heard right
02:45:19 let me stop sharing screen real quick
02:45:26 jack of the yeah
02:45:29 so i read this a lot to my kids you know
02:45:32 on
02:45:33 the bed okay so
02:45:36 if you have a moment i’m going to show
02:45:38 you some things i see in here okay
02:45:41 um and if you’re a little short on time
02:45:43 which
02:45:44 uh i don’t know how much time you have
02:45:45 maybe i don’t read it but i just
02:45:47 flip through it and give you summaries
02:45:49 okay well let’s go ahead so it’s 9 41
02:45:52 here now
02:45:53 let’s go ahead and close it out at 10.
02:45:57 uh okay so maybe i’ll do quick summaries
02:45:59 then so
02:46:00 here is this the beginning jack
02:46:04 the cow stops giving milk so they have
02:46:07 to go sell it
02:46:08 now passover has
02:46:12 three acceptable offerings
02:46:15 a cow a lamb which is the most common
02:46:19 the most preferred in a goat
02:46:22 but a cow is an acceptable offering
02:46:27 for passover for representing the price
02:46:31 in fact
02:46:32 this is a whole other issue that i
02:46:33 haven’t completely figured out yet
02:46:35 but the red heifer the red cow
02:46:38 i believe represents christ but that’s a
02:46:41 whole other
02:46:42 thing okay all right so he has to go
02:46:45 sell them
02:46:45 right oh who sold christ judas
02:46:49 it’d be interesting if they say how much
02:46:51 they sell this for
02:46:52 i mean um which they do in a little bit
02:46:55 but it’s not 30 it’s
02:46:57 9 which we just went over 9 represents
02:47:01 satan so
02:47:04 there’s this old man who buys the cow
02:47:10 for nine beans
02:47:14 so you know it’s either christ or satan
02:47:18 you can sell christ for satan for
02:47:20 nineteen which is
02:47:22 which is the serpent right which i mean
02:47:25 that
02:47:25 that just really fits in but anyways um
02:47:29 and those nine beams do what
02:47:34 they say grow into a beanstalk
02:47:39 that goes into heaven like the
02:47:42 tower of babel now
02:47:46 um jack goes up three different times to
02:47:50 get three different things okay
02:47:52 and at least in this edition of the book
02:47:57 first he gets a bag of gold
02:48:01 okay all right all right
02:48:06 second if it’s a hand that
02:48:10 lays golden eggs we’ll get back to that
02:48:12 in a minute
02:48:17 uh third he gets the heart
02:48:20 that sings and talks
02:48:25 and then this is where i get and we get
02:48:27 in these other we’ll go back to those
02:48:29 other three in a minute
02:48:31 um but then at the end
02:48:34 the giant climbs down the beanstalk
02:48:38 to go after jack
02:48:41 which i i don’t find accidental
02:48:44 and but then jack this is where it
02:48:47 starts changing the narrative what’s
02:48:49 really going to happen
02:48:50 um and this will make a little more
02:48:52 sense in a minute because he
02:48:54 cuts down the beanstalk and makes it so
02:48:57 the giant
02:48:58 falls and dies and then they’re just
02:49:01 off out about singing with the heart
02:49:05 so let’s just start the end i believe
02:49:10 this is represent a gnostic gospel
02:49:14 where satan
02:49:17 gave a way
02:49:21 for men to get back to heaven without
02:49:24 god
02:49:26 um and these three things
02:49:29 that the gold represents the first two
02:49:33 thousand years
02:49:35 i don’t know how yet but that is my
02:49:37 current belief i don’t know how yet
02:49:39 i’m still trying to figure that one out
02:49:42 i haven’t put a lot of effort into it
02:49:44 but well
02:49:45 go ahead i mean not to on a slightly
02:49:49 different spin
02:49:50 sure um
02:49:54 one of the reasons that the jews used
02:49:56 silver
02:49:58 as their currency of exchange was
02:50:01 because
02:50:02 uh just like in the new world
02:50:05 the americas the gold
02:50:09 was god’s it was
02:50:13 it wasn’t used as currency of trade it
02:50:16 was
02:50:18 for for um
02:50:22 uh mundane
02:50:26 the common stuff it was it was
02:50:29 god it was god oh and gold gold
02:50:33 okay right and um
02:50:37 the
02:50:40 the exchange of the cow
02:50:45 which was their livelihood their life
02:50:49 uh you know the exchange of the cow
02:50:54 for beans
02:50:57 beans grew a stock
02:51:00 that was it could be considered like the
02:51:03 tree
02:51:04 of life and essentially
02:51:07 it’s interesting here uh since you bring
02:51:09 that up
02:51:10 um so in here a beanstalk in your garden
02:51:14 which you know garden eden as tall as a
02:51:16 pine tree
02:51:18 and pine trees are used for the pagan
02:51:22 practice of christmas
02:51:24 right they represent eternal life or
02:51:27 unending life sure i i i do understand
02:51:30 why they’re used as that
02:51:32 but it in torah tells us not to do that
02:51:36 though right i’m not making this up this
02:51:37 is what it’s in this
02:51:39 edition anyways yeah it looks blurry but
02:51:42 so you’ll have to take my word for it
02:51:44 i’ll take you at your word because
02:51:46 you’re right i can’t read the text yeah
02:51:48 um but
02:51:49 the the interesting i mean
02:51:53 i can see where you’re coming from from
02:51:55 the gnostic
02:51:57 um point of view i’m just
02:52:00 saying that there are you know there are
02:52:03 the
02:52:03 the selling
02:52:07 your worldly
02:52:11 connection to you know erodely system
02:52:14 sustenance of life in exchange for
02:52:20 the opportunity to connect with the
02:52:23 divine
02:52:26 and
02:52:31 the gold or that of the divine
02:52:35 um therefore making your life much
02:52:38 more richer um
02:52:42 i i hear what you’re saying um because
02:52:45 i i mean christ tells us we are to give
02:52:49 up everything
02:52:50 to be required right so what you’re
02:52:53 saying is true
02:52:55 and i’m not doubting that but it it’s
02:52:57 all the little
02:52:59 to me the little details shows me
02:53:01 something a little
02:53:02 slight different works just just enough
02:53:06 to fly under the radar the nine beans
02:53:10 why nine well
02:53:15 i mean if nine is the symbol of
02:53:20 where is the numerical equivalence to
02:53:23 satan
02:53:24 symbolically wise what is three
02:53:27 what is that the symbolic
02:53:33 three um godhead or
02:53:37 um perfection from
02:53:41 from god right and you’ve heard of the
02:53:44 saying
02:53:46 there is such a thing as too much of a
02:53:48 good thing
02:53:49 sure yeah too much of a good thing is
02:53:51 bad
02:53:53 yeah so
02:53:57 oh you know interesting that with that
02:54:00 in mind
02:54:03 three threes is nine yes
02:54:07 and three and that’s just like the wall
02:54:10 in in hebrew there’s like three times
02:54:13 is complete or fully and so doing too
02:54:17 much
02:54:17 three times gives you the nine so that’s
02:54:20 an interesting
02:54:21 connection
02:54:26 have you ever heard the the uh jewish
02:54:29 joke
02:54:32 god came to
02:54:36 let’s see so god came to the babylonians
02:54:39 and said
02:54:40 i’ve got some commandments for you
02:54:42 babylonians said
02:54:44 no god came to the canaanites said i
02:54:47 have some
02:54:48 commandments for you he said no
02:54:52 god came to moses and said i have some
02:54:54 commandments for you
02:54:56 mother said how much god said
02:55:00 free so they said i’ll take over 600 of
02:55:04 them
02:55:09 uh i haven’t heard that one as in
02:55:12 that they’re cheap right well the point
02:55:15 is
02:55:16 is that i mean ultimately
02:55:20 we have one commandment
02:55:23 maybe two uh well jesus summarized it
02:55:27 down to
02:55:27 two um but he didn’t say that we didn’t
02:55:31 have the others he said
02:55:32 all based upon these two so when you’re
02:55:35 talking about universally
02:55:38 we have two commandments love god with
02:55:40 all your heart mind might and strength
02:55:42 yeah love your neighbor as yourself
02:55:45 those are the two commandments right
02:55:47 i mean those are that’s what all the
02:55:49 others are based off of i i’m being
02:55:51 picky
02:55:52 what it’s supposed to be but
02:55:57 you know and maybe you could say we have
02:55:59 ten commandments
02:56:00 you know i mean the classic ten
02:56:02 commandments well
02:56:04 the jews have six hundred and fourteen i
02:56:07 believe
02:56:09 the number 613 but that’s an orthodox
02:56:11 false condition
02:56:15 that is what the orthodox says 613 okay
02:56:18 but even with
02:56:22 just that on the books they have
02:56:26 you know i mean every religion that has
02:56:28 a list of commandments
02:56:30 you know a bullet point of commandments
02:56:33 have added
02:56:34 a you know like sub note addendum
02:56:38 um oh you know their oral law probably
02:56:41 has millions of laws
02:56:43 and you know by the time you get done
02:56:44 with it they they have so many
02:56:46 hedges and and and
02:56:50 you know buffers you know so many
02:56:55 you know they have so many of these
02:57:00 you know this is how you should not
02:57:03 break the law and this is how you should
02:57:04 not break
02:57:05 it and all these stupid little things by
02:57:07 the time you’re okay law
02:57:09 tells you what shoe you should put on
02:57:11 first when you wake up
02:57:12 yeah so the
02:57:17 the whole thing of building up building
02:57:20 barriers
02:57:22 to the law you know they they’re like
02:57:25 okay these
02:57:26 these commandments are sacrosanct and we
02:57:28 can never break them and then and to
02:57:30 make sure that we never break them
02:57:32 we’re going to have all these barriers
02:57:34 and buffers
02:57:35 to keep us safe and the it’s like they
02:57:38 tie you down with the damn flags and
02:57:40 cords
02:57:42 until you literally cannot
02:57:46 move oh yeah and then i will add to that
02:57:50 christ even
02:57:50 on top of that said their false
02:57:54 traditions made them
02:57:55 break the real written laws
02:57:59 also right
02:58:02 and i forgot i got on so much of a
02:58:04 tangent i forgot what i was tangenting
02:58:06 about i’m sorry
02:58:07 no that’s fine i’m not worried about it
02:58:11 well um so what i i’m
02:58:14 somewhat bringing out that connects more
02:58:16 with
02:58:19 the whole point was if three is the
02:58:23 number of perfection
02:58:25 nine being perfection compounded
02:58:28 it reminds me of all these buffers
02:58:33 to you know that you cannot break in
02:58:35 order to not break that one commandment
02:58:38 oh yeah i could see that because they’re
02:58:40 adding to the law
02:58:41 right which satan inspired them to do
02:58:44 which nine represents
02:58:46 um so i i see no problem with that
02:58:51 um so with a little bit of time left let
02:58:55 me get back to this if that’s okay
02:58:57 um so i see
02:59:00 in here um the one that i can see really
02:59:03 clearly
02:59:04 is the last um
02:59:09 2000 years after christ’s
02:59:13 birth death and resurrection is the harp
02:59:16 because they’re singing they’re singing
02:59:17 the gospel
02:59:19 to people right um in fact
02:59:22 one thing i i’ve learned from watching
02:59:25 that nazarus
02:59:26 um series that we
02:59:30 kind of looked at just like real briefly
02:59:32 for the picture right
02:59:33 is that gemini was originally
02:59:37 uh a man and a woman like adam and eve
02:59:40 not two
02:59:46 no that’s fine so let me see if i can
02:59:52 um let’s see if i can find a picture
02:59:55 real quick
02:59:55 hold on i don’t know if i’m wrong but um
03:00:04 i do have one other thing to to mention
03:00:06 to you
03:00:08 i mentioned to you um
03:00:12 the
03:00:18 the concept prayers should be sung
03:00:22 sorry say that one more time prayers
03:00:25 could be sung
03:00:26 you should sing your plans
03:00:31 okay
03:00:34 maybe look into it tell me what you
03:00:36 think okay send me a link
03:00:38 and i’ll look into it um i don’t have a
03:00:41 link i’m sorry
03:00:42 oh okay it’s a concept that just kind of
03:00:46 popped into my head while we were
03:00:48 talking about bank
03:00:49 jack and the beanstalk uh okay
03:00:53 all right okay so
03:00:58 i think i should show this okay so
03:01:02 there’s gemini see it’s a man and a
03:01:03 woman and the woman has the heart for
03:01:05 the woman is the church
03:01:06 singing the gospel okay
03:01:09 um so here let me show another thing
03:01:13 so i’m working on another post
03:01:16 um actually it’s
03:01:20 it’s one
03:01:24 that it’s it’s basically showing how the
03:01:28 um brigamite temples are contradicting
03:01:32 the scriptures okay um
03:01:35 and one of the issues in there is the
03:01:38 gst
03:01:40 um which deals with
03:01:43 um the creation prophecy the creation
03:01:48 account those seven days are actually
03:01:51 prophecy
03:01:52 okay um
03:01:57 just focus on that part but
03:02:00 day four at the end of day four and this
03:02:03 even gets into
03:02:04 shovel and pentecost because a lot of
03:02:07 people think it’s in
03:02:08 the third moon it’s actually in the
03:02:10 fourth moon
03:02:11 because there’s two counts and it’s at
03:02:13 the end of the fourth okay
03:02:17 so my main point is
03:02:20 the second
03:02:23 two thousand year period christ comes
03:02:27 and we can look through this whole
03:02:28 creation process if you want and
03:02:30 the rest of this stuff but i don’t think
03:02:32 you have too much more time so i want to
03:02:34 focus on this
03:02:35 oh there’s one more thing that i i’d
03:02:36 like to mention really quick
03:02:39 went to this website and you were
03:02:42 talking about the creation room and
03:02:44 this girl passed a picture of venus
03:02:47 oh yeah um at the top of the page
03:02:51 there’s uh two pictures one of this and
03:02:54 one of the
03:02:55 um there’s a statue in the creation room
03:02:58 of the lds temple
03:02:59 yeah do you want to go look at those
03:03:01 real quick uh
03:03:03 we can if you like um i was just gonna
03:03:06 tell you
03:03:07 that statue
03:03:10 you know so they’re currently doing a
03:03:12 restoration
03:03:14 yeah with the lds temple in uh
03:03:17 spotlight city yeah oh they’re doing i
03:03:19 know they’re doing a couple of them i
03:03:21 don’t saw it like in that time
03:03:22 wildlife temple is the only one that
03:03:24 actually has that statue
03:03:27 right um i and
03:03:30 they are removing it
03:03:33 i’m not surprised i’m sure they’re
03:03:36 trying to hide that but it used to be
03:03:38 there
03:03:38 um well they actually have a diorama
03:03:43 well they last i thought i mean this was
03:03:46 just a couple years ago
03:03:47 when i went up for the lights over on
03:03:49 temple with temple square
03:03:53 they have a diorama of the of the temple
03:03:56 it shows a miniature of the creation
03:03:59 room and it actually has
03:04:00 the statue in the diorama
03:04:05 at the time that i saw it just a couple
03:04:07 of years ago
03:04:08 but um the
03:04:12 that statue was going to be removed this
03:04:15 year
03:04:16 during the restoration well i i’m
03:04:21 not too surprised in fact um
03:04:25 it i’m going to go back to sharing um
03:04:33 okay am i sharing do you see
03:04:37 that temple so there’s
03:04:41 venus aphrodite and that’s at the
03:04:44 temple veil um is that the one or is it
03:04:47 something okay um
03:04:51 yeah um i i went to manti
03:04:55 a long time ago and
03:04:58 only a couple times i don’t know for
03:05:00 sure and i haven’t been able to
03:05:01 prove it but i think aphrodite was in
03:05:05 mentai
03:05:06 also but i’m not 100 sure and
03:05:09 i i don’t really have anybody to
03:05:13 talk to and ask to go link
03:05:17 um i
03:05:21 but yeah to me
03:05:24 and i get into this post i it just shows
03:05:28 that they’re
03:05:28 it’s all about sex that’s what aphrodite
03:05:30 is about
03:05:32 is sex um
03:05:38 anyways um so go back to the
03:05:42 main point um i’m trying to
03:05:46 i was bringing out that christ came
03:05:49 at the end of
03:05:54 the fourth millennium that the second
03:05:59 period so i i see that there’s three
03:06:02 testing periods
03:06:04 um adam noah
03:06:08 noah the christ and christ till the
03:06:11 second
03:06:12 coming and they’re all
03:06:15 give or take 2 000 years
03:06:20 and and i see
03:06:25 those three periods
03:06:28 in these three items that the
03:06:31 jack brought down from heaven
03:06:34 i see it in the harp for the last part
03:06:38 going out and preaching the gospel
03:06:40 after christ’s resurrection i see it
03:06:44 in the egg which is i
03:06:47 believe is christ which i need to do
03:06:50 some more research on but that is what i
03:06:52 currently believe
03:06:54 and i believe the money
03:06:58 bag has to do with the first two
03:07:00 thousand years i don’t know how yet
03:07:02 but i do believe it does
03:07:05 um represent that
03:07:10 i’m just not sure how yet but
03:07:13 the rest of the story that goes along
03:07:15 with it i think fits in
03:07:17 that gnostic um
03:07:20 idea that i presented there
03:07:24 but anyways also
03:07:28 did you ever see my pet goat too
03:07:31 i have never seen my pet goat
03:07:34 no well actually i’ve never seen number
03:07:37 one either
03:07:39 no no i’ve never seen either of them in
03:07:41 fact i’ve never heard of it until you
03:07:42 mentioned it
03:07:42 oh you should go watch it
03:07:46 um let’s see let me share my screen
03:07:50 right there there’s
03:07:53 a part in it
03:07:57 where there’s a snake wrapped around
03:08:00 an egg
03:08:05 and um i think that’s satan
03:08:09 watching and trying to destroy
03:08:18 christ
03:08:21 oh why is it my take off mine
03:08:27 it’s been a while oh
03:08:36 all right
03:08:45 oh come on
03:08:56 all right that’s fine i’ll give you the
03:08:59 link real quick
03:09:02 um if you want to watch it
03:09:07 if you really want to do there’s some
03:09:08 people that have some interesting
03:09:10 commentaries and a lot of
03:09:11 parts on it and i think they bring out
03:09:14 some good points
03:09:16 but i’m just going to look at this one
03:09:20 there’s bush and obama in it
03:09:23 there’s a mypet code 32 anyways
03:09:27 and it has trump in it hey could you do
03:09:31 me a favor
03:09:31 and all the stuff that you put in the
03:09:33 chat would you
03:09:35 on the zoom chat would you copy over to
03:09:39 facebook sure i’ll do that so that i can
03:09:42 make sure that i have it even after the
03:09:44 zoom meeting is closed
03:09:56 sure
03:10:04 he looks like me in the morning
03:10:10 i wasn’t quite the spot i was looking
03:10:13 for
03:10:13 um it’s been a while sometimes
03:10:18 i haven’t had a chance to
03:10:25 oh yeah so here this is an interesting
03:10:28 thing um
03:10:29 the statue of liberty is isis
03:10:32 uh i’m just saying that because i’m
03:10:34 seeing it right now but
03:10:35 anyways it’s a
03:10:39 pagan god oh there we go
03:10:42 there’s the egg
03:10:46 see the snake watching it yeah
03:10:50 uh it kind of reminds reminds me of how
03:10:53 um
03:10:54 revelation 12 or 13 about satan
03:10:58 and going after the woman the church
03:11:00 who’s going to
03:11:01 birth the man child which when you
03:11:05 keep reading it’s christ and here he’s
03:11:08 you know watching and trying to destroy
03:11:10 it um
03:11:12 so i
03:11:16 maybe next time we can look into the
03:11:18 scriptures on that i do think
03:11:20 that the age is christ
03:11:23 the serpent is satan
03:11:26 and possibly even his demons
03:11:30 can also be represented by it
03:11:34 um
03:11:36 sorry about that i forgot about that the
03:11:39 bike’s not being the best
03:11:41 um so maybe next time that you can come
03:11:43 we can look into the scriptures
03:11:45 into egg more to see if it is christ or
03:11:48 not
03:11:48 um i at this point i do believe the
03:11:51 scorpion
03:11:52 represents satan and possibly his
03:11:56 demons um so i
03:11:59 i don’t necessarily think it’s only
03:12:01 satan yet i haven’t dug enough into it
03:12:04 but it’s at least him and possibly
03:12:07 his demons in addition and that the egg
03:12:10 represents
03:12:11 christ
03:12:16 okay well i will definitely watch the
03:12:20 stuff
03:12:21 so um i’m gonna let you go for now
03:12:24 if you can go ahead and do that uh
03:12:26 transfer of all those
03:12:28 uh links yeah i’ll do that for you
03:12:31 thank you all right it’s nice uh
03:12:33 chatting with you again
03:12:35 definitely and thank you for
03:12:37 sacramento’s
03:12:40 renewing yes i you know
03:12:43 i still remember the first time i did it
03:12:45 with wine
03:12:47 and it’s just it was powerful
03:12:51 but anyways um
03:12:54 you know the saying that people like to
03:12:56 say fast in testimony their
03:12:57 meaning burning in the bosom we just
03:13:00 felt it
03:13:05 all the way down the throat yes
03:13:11 but yeah it does there is
03:13:16 there is something more to
03:13:20 oh i i mean we could talk about it
03:13:22 another time because you need to go but
03:13:24 just the bitterness of it i think has a
03:13:27 lot of symbolism to it also
03:13:29 which uh i see in mosiah 18 which we
03:13:33 talked some about some other parts of it
03:13:36 but
03:13:37 anyways it when you take away
03:13:40 the symbolism you take away the gospel
03:13:45 yeah and the thing about symbolism is
03:13:50 that
03:13:50 you’ve got to be able to in order to be
03:13:53 able to interpret it properly it has to
03:13:55 be interpreted
03:13:56 holistically and the only way to do that
03:13:58 is to involve
03:13:59 as many sentences as possible yeah yeah
03:14:02 i agree with that
03:14:03 and um
03:14:08 when you look through the scriptures you
03:14:10 see all these things that don’t make
03:14:12 sense
03:14:13 and until you start doing it it will
03:14:15 never
03:14:16 make sense and even christ teaches that
03:14:19 in the new testament until you do you
03:14:22 will not know
03:14:25 but a lot of people won’t want to do
03:14:28 because they won’t understand and
03:14:30 they’re not willing
03:14:32 to take that sort of leap of faith
03:14:35 or step in the darkness to trust the
03:14:38 word
03:14:39 they just won’t do it it’s hard
03:14:43 i yeah um the culture makes it hard
03:14:47 but that’s man and we have to pick do we
03:14:50 pick
03:14:50 do we revere god
03:14:54 or revere man yeah
03:14:58 he gave us the choice and he’s letting
03:14:59 us pick
03:15:02 we want to pick the people in the
03:15:04 floating building
03:15:06 i mean that that whole vision of lehigh
03:15:09 uh has so much
03:15:14 literal meaning oh
03:15:17 just just that one point the floating
03:15:19 building you know why it’s floating
03:15:21 because it has no foundation it has no
03:15:22 foundation because it has no
03:15:24 christ christ is the foundation
03:15:27 according to the scriptures and that’s
03:15:28 why they don’t have a foundation because
03:15:30 they have no christ
03:15:32 this is again uh this is probably an
03:15:35 hour’s worth of topic that i’m
03:15:37 opening up here so i’ll probably have to
03:15:39 let it go okay
03:15:40 would you want to do like um closing
03:15:43 prayer or anything like that
03:15:45 or uh sure let me pause it
03:15:48 i’d rather not do that on the recording
03:15:50 but we can do that
03:15:51 [Music]
03:15:52 okay