Scripture Study 2022-03-10

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Look at the Greek word behind fulfil and how it means teach. Talk when the day starts and sundials. Talk about the flat earth some. Talked some about the difference between Torah and the Law of Moses. Talk about walking on the Sabbath.

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00:00:02 did you hear that it’s recording okay so
00:00:06 this is a post that i need to finish but
00:00:07 this goes along with what you’re saying
00:00:09 gary where
00:00:10 matthew 5
00:00:13 those verses get twisted quite a bit um
00:00:17 and so does matthew 3 which kind of goes
00:00:19 along with the same thing
00:00:20 but i’ll i’ll just start right here
00:00:23 but
00:00:24 so the debate centered
00:00:26 on one which definition fulfill pleirue
00:00:30 so
00:00:32 this is another problem there’s multiple
00:00:35 greek words that gets translated to to
00:00:37 fulfill
00:00:38 in the king james version and that makes
00:00:41 it confusing especially in this sermon
00:00:44 on the mount verse in matthew 5 right
00:00:47 but the the big one
00:00:49 is um
00:00:51 yeah let’s see
00:00:54 this first one think not that i’ve come
00:00:56 to destroy i think now that i come to
00:00:58 destroy the law are the prophets i am
00:01:00 not come to destroy but to fulfill
00:01:04 right
00:01:05 so
00:01:05 that fulfill the one that gets twisted
00:01:08 so much like gary is bringing out is the
00:01:10 greek behind that is pleirue
00:01:13 and you go look at the death dictionary
00:01:15 definition of that word and other places
00:01:18 it’s used in the new testament which i
00:01:20 have down in just a minute we can look
00:01:22 at it means
00:01:24 teach it doesn’t mean done away with
00:01:27 which this is funny so even without that
00:01:30 knowledge right so here’s an example of
00:01:33 a parable
00:01:35 so to speak or an example i i give
00:01:38 people on the word fulfill
00:01:41 like when you go to college you have
00:01:44 requirements you need to fulfill
00:01:46 to qualify to go to that college right
00:01:50 and when a person fulfills those
00:01:52 requirements that doesn’t get rid of the
00:01:54 need of other
00:01:56 people that doesn’t get rid of the
00:01:57 requirements for others when you
00:01:59 fulfilled it
00:02:01 now that’s not the fulfill
00:02:04 definition of fulfill it’s being used
00:02:06 right here in this one that’s getting
00:02:07 twisted but it is one that hopefully
00:02:10 an example like people’s gets thinking
00:02:12 about the multiple meanings of fulfill
00:02:15 because i think on some of these false
00:02:17 traditions out there they get so stuck
00:02:19 on one definition of the word that they
00:02:21 forget about the others because it
00:02:24 gives them what they want
00:02:26 so
00:02:27 anyways
00:02:29 but this fulfill in matthew 5 19 is
00:02:32 pleirue which means teach
00:02:35 in fact
00:02:36 bible hub shows that
00:02:40 so plural group concordance
00:02:43 bible hub
00:02:45 the
00:02:46 nas exhaustive concordance it means
00:02:49 fully preached
00:02:51 there’s greek lexicon
00:02:53 fully preached
00:02:55 strong’s exhaustive concordance fully
00:02:58 preached preach and teach is the same
00:03:01 thing
00:03:03 so down here i
00:03:05 show those two examples
00:03:08 and
00:03:10 in a lot of cases there there’s a
00:03:11 version of the bible called the
00:03:13 brilliant brienne study bible that i
00:03:15 like and it just
00:03:18 i think they do a better job than the
00:03:19 king james version but anyways
00:03:21 um but in this romans 5th
00:03:24 romans 15 19 which is paul right
00:03:27 by the power of signs and wonders and by
00:03:30 the power of the spirit of god
00:03:32 so from jerusalem with all the way
00:03:35 around to
00:03:36 like conor i i can’t say that but
00:03:39 anyways
00:03:40 i have fully proclaimed
00:03:43 now it’s interesting what’s the greek
00:03:45 word behind that ple roux the same one
00:03:48 from the sermon on the mount
00:03:50 the gospel of christ
00:03:53 uh in colossians 1 25
00:03:56 i became its servant by the commission
00:03:58 of god gave me to fulfill to fully
00:04:01 proclaim oh wait that’s plural again
00:04:04 just like in sermon on the mount which
00:04:06 means fully preached
00:04:09 fully teach to you the word of god
00:04:15 so
00:04:16 i
00:04:17 fulfill is a very interesting word
00:04:20 because a lot of it is because of
00:04:24 bad translations
00:04:27 so
00:04:28 and there’s more to this of the story
00:04:30 also so it’s interesting
00:04:33 um
00:04:34 i don’t know where i have this
00:04:37 but
00:04:38 there are this is also
00:04:40 goes along with uh hebrew idiom
00:04:43 um
00:04:45 in that verse in matthew
00:04:47 5 19
00:04:48 yeah um
00:04:50 jesus
00:04:51 is basically telling the other teachers
00:04:54 of his day
00:04:56 i am teaching torah correctly and you
00:04:58 were teaching it incorrectly
00:05:01 the talmud has examples of that
00:05:05 way that hebrew idiom
00:05:08 how they these
00:05:10 so-called teachers
00:05:12 um
00:05:14 are using that same phrase to show that
00:05:16 they’re
00:05:17 teaching
00:05:18 torah correctly and other people are
00:05:20 teaching incorrectly oh in fact here i
00:05:22 think here’s one example i have right
00:05:23 here
00:05:24 i have a lot of examples further down i
00:05:27 i need to finish this post to get out
00:05:28 there um because i have a lot of these
00:05:30 examples that
00:05:32 explain that verse it’s just i get
00:05:34 sidetracked on other things like right
00:05:36 right lately i’ve been sidetracked on um
00:05:38 calendar issues but anyway so
00:05:41 uh
00:05:42 david belvin i don’t know and roy
00:05:45 blizzard are not the only scholars who
00:05:48 have published along these lines oh ron
00:05:50 mosley also has oh i have one up here oh
00:05:53 i have more up here
00:05:54 uh so maybe it’s been a while since it
00:05:57 looked like this
00:06:00 uh
00:06:01 let’s start here destroy and fulfill our
00:06:04 technical terms oh here’s what i was
00:06:05 saying used in a rabbinical argument
00:06:08 yeah can you accept another participant
00:06:10 lisa wants to come join us yeah yes
00:06:13 sorry i didn’t notice it hold on let me
00:06:15 stop
00:06:16 sharing my screen because i don’t see oh
00:06:20 yeah i’m still learning zoom
00:06:23 i there’s all these little ins and outs
00:06:25 in it that i still don’t understand hi
00:06:27 lisa we’re recording
00:06:36 [Music]
00:06:38 she’s
00:06:39 her audio’s working on it
00:06:43 yeah i don’t know how to do zoom i mean
00:06:46 i get on zoom call but i don’t know how
00:06:48 to uh i know how to do a little bit
00:06:50 because here i am hosting it right and
00:06:52 i’ve done it for a while but i
00:06:55 i don’t know why they didn’t tell me she
00:06:57 was trying to join while i was
00:06:59 uh sharing my screen but whatever i
00:07:03 it’s not something i want to write
00:07:05 software for so i just use somebody
00:07:07 else’s
00:07:08 looks like she’s there now
00:07:11 in fact speaking of writing software
00:07:15 i finished writing a console program
00:07:17 that
00:07:18 does the um high holidays
00:07:21 and
00:07:22 the lunar sabbath kind of like the
00:07:23 world’s last chance
00:07:25 uh but i like mine more and i can get
00:07:28 the details of why if you want gary but
00:07:31 um mine’s more accurate
00:07:33 of course
00:07:34 it’s more accurate what is more accurate
00:07:37 my program versus world’s last chance
00:07:39 program
00:07:42 the who who doesn’t say they’re better
00:07:44 than other people right so i mean i’m
00:07:46 somewhat being facetious and somewhat
00:07:48 uh
00:07:49 honest about it but so the world this is
00:07:51 the first this is the first time i’ve
00:07:53 met you but you just seem very humble oh
00:07:56 that’s
00:08:09 just you don’t have to go inside just
00:08:10 dump it in their outside thing
00:08:15 oh i see
00:08:16 okay just leave it over there on it
00:08:20 have you seen the chosen
00:08:27 so it has its problems it’s not perfect
00:08:30 but i like it okay
00:08:32 um
00:08:33 but there’s a scene where
00:08:35 matthew
00:08:36 and thomas are together
00:08:38 and they’re they’re cooking lunch
00:08:40 together
00:08:42 and
00:08:43 me or thomas
00:08:44 tells matthew you’re not very humble
00:08:47 and matthew’s like i think i am very
00:08:49 humble and thomas is going you’re
00:08:51 boasting about your humility that’s
00:08:53 prideful
00:08:55 yeah
00:08:56 anyways um so i i can talk about the
00:09:00 world’s last chance
00:09:02 app and my app or we can go back to the
00:09:05 fulfilled stuff um i’m fine either
00:09:08 one
00:09:09 um
00:09:13 well
00:09:14 like i said this is the first time i’ve
00:09:15 been on anything like this
00:09:18 sure and
00:09:19 and
00:09:21 just to kind of give you my background i
00:09:22 was a sunday keeper and i
00:09:25 i think lisa needs to mute her mic
00:09:29 sorry
00:09:31 but that’s all right but anyway um
00:09:34 you know i was a sunday keeper and then
00:09:36 then then i heard about the sabbath i go
00:09:38 to sabbath what do you mean to sabbath
00:09:40 you know and
00:09:42 you know i just assumed sunday was the
00:09:44 sabbath you know and then
00:09:47 and then
00:09:49 then i went to this um
00:09:51 well this lady come by and she says
00:09:54 i used to have a home in knoxville
00:09:56 tennessee and my wife cut hair and the
00:09:58 people we bought the business from she
00:10:00 came over one day and she said it was a
00:10:02 saturday morning and she says she says
00:10:04 where are you going as i’m going to go
00:10:06 test some water
00:10:07 oh okay and then she said do you
00:10:09 remember judy stockdale and i said dude
00:10:12 oh yeah i remember she said the true day
00:10:13 of worship saturday
00:10:15 i go saturday he goes yeah that’s the
00:10:17 sabbath like what do you mean the
00:10:18 sabbath and i was going to this church
00:10:20 it was a church of god
00:10:22 the seven it wasn’t seventh day but it
00:10:24 was a church of god
00:10:26 and
00:10:28 when i went there
00:10:30 um i learned more in the first five
00:10:32 five six months and i learned it all my
00:10:34 whole life you know sure and then and i
00:10:37 but i was there for five years every
00:10:39 time the doors are open monday night
00:10:41 prayer meeting wednesday night
00:10:43 uh sunday morning at 9 30 and then 11 00
00:10:46 11 in the morning and then
00:10:48 6 30 in the evening
00:10:50 so i figured that out five times a week
00:10:52 that’s 52 weeks times
00:10:54 five years that was a lot of times and i
00:10:57 never heard of the sabbath and i’m going
00:10:59 what is wrong with so i looked up all
00:11:01 the scriptures about sabbath
00:11:03 and then
00:11:04 all the things you can do and can’t do
00:11:05 and i said well sunday can’t be the sad
00:11:07 because most people they get out of
00:11:09 church they go
00:11:10 to the restaurant so they’re buying and
00:11:12 selling they’re making other people work
00:11:14 so i said it can’t be the sabbath but
00:11:16 i’m just saying i’ve learned and and
00:11:18 then
00:11:18 then i went the saturday sabbath and i
00:11:21 went to this church but you know what
00:11:23 they’re always you probably did friday
00:11:24 night to saturday night because that’s
00:11:26 what the orthodox yeah yeah
00:11:29 and so then
00:11:30 so i so uh a friend of mine calls me up
00:11:33 one day
00:11:34 and says uh he goes you want to check
00:11:36 out this church i go yeah i’ll check it
00:11:38 out where is it at he goes well it’s
00:11:39 over here and he goes but they don’t
00:11:41 worship on sunday worship on saturday
00:11:43 and i go saturday so here is like within
00:11:45 two weeks i got a second witness
00:11:48 and i went to that church and when i
00:11:50 went to the church and and the guy that
00:11:52 invited me his name was ken
00:11:55 and when i went into the church this guy
00:11:58 sticks out his hand he goes hi my name’s
00:11:59 ken what’s your name i said it’s gary
00:12:02 and he says who invited you kent
00:12:04 gary and i said can’t his name is ken
00:12:07 but he’s not here yet
00:12:09 so i so i’m looking around and
00:12:12 by the way that guy never showed up
00:12:14 so i asked him i said can you tell me
00:12:16 why you worship on saturday
00:12:18 and he points to the calendar and he
00:12:19 says what day is the seventh day and i
00:12:21 look
00:12:23 oh okay yeah that makes sense
00:12:26 you know and so it says to say keep the
00:12:28 seventh day holy and i said for sure i
00:12:30 think you just i want to interject just
00:12:31 a little bit depending on what country
00:12:33 you are saturday or sunday is the
00:12:36 seventh day so that looking at the
00:12:38 calendar is not
00:12:41 um a perfect way most countries have
00:12:44 saturday on the seventh but not all do
00:12:46 and so people who have this
00:12:50 don’t know about what other countries do
00:12:52 can use that
00:12:54 but those who do know
00:12:55 other countries can’t use that because
00:12:58 they know it’s different but anyways
00:13:02 and so anyways
00:13:04 i went back to my church and i asked
00:13:06 the pastor and it’s going there for five
00:13:08 years i go
00:13:10 i wasn’t this this other church and they
00:13:12 said that saturday is the sabbath and
00:13:14 the day of worship so why are we
00:13:16 worshiping on sunday
00:13:18 and he’s well gary it doesn’t matter
00:13:19 what day you worship as long as you set
00:13:21 one day aside that can be your day of
00:13:23 worship so it’s sunday monday tuesday
00:13:26 don’t matter so really
00:13:28 he’s passed away a few years ago but he
00:13:30 was really prophesying the lunar sabbath
00:13:32 because it doesn’t mean what day you
00:13:33 worship it could be sunday monday
00:13:35 tuesday wednesday you know it doesn’t
00:13:37 matter as long as you set one day aside
00:13:40 yeah but because it’s it is a it’s
00:13:42 always
00:13:43 i see what you’re getting at because on
00:13:45 the the pagan catholic calendar it
00:13:47 floats
00:13:48 but
00:13:50 on yahweh’s calendar it’s always on the
00:13:52 8th 15th 22nd and 25th
00:13:55 right but i’m talking about on the
00:13:57 gregorian calendar yeah sure see it’s
00:13:59 only the first day or the seventh day
00:14:02 only on the gregorian calendar
00:14:05 and then i tell
00:14:06 and then another thing that i found
00:14:08 because i’ve been studying this for
00:14:09 about 16 years
00:14:11 and so all i can say is that
00:14:14 saturday used to be the first day of the
00:14:16 week yeah yeah it did uh friday was the
00:14:20 seventh day yeah
00:14:22 yeah uh constantine changed that and
00:14:25 honored his son god uh yeah he didn’t
00:14:28 like the idea that saturn’s day was
00:14:30 being worshipped before sunday yeah
00:14:32 because they wanted their
00:14:33 patron god the first day of the week
00:14:35 because that was the honorable day of
00:14:37 the week so he changed it because his
00:14:40 patron god was the sun god
00:14:42 um
00:14:43 you’re probably aware rome used to have
00:14:45 eight day week right i remember that too
00:14:48 remember that beatles song eight days a
00:14:50 week
00:14:51 uh
00:14:53 no
00:14:53 i it was a beatles song called eight
00:14:56 days a week i i was never into beatles
00:14:59 and
00:15:00 since i’ve woken up uh
00:15:03 at least one of the beatles albums
00:15:06 has a picture of aleister crowley on
00:15:08 their
00:15:09 cover
00:15:11 do you know who aleister crowley is
00:15:13 no
00:15:14 he called himself satan he did a lot of
00:15:17 bad stuff
00:15:18 um
00:15:20 he he came up with his own occult uh
00:15:23 masonic
00:15:24 jesuit uh ceremonies anyways it’s he
00:15:28 he’s the one that where people say do it
00:15:30 that wilt that is the end of the law
00:15:33 aleister crowley is the one that uh
00:15:35 coined that
00:15:36 but i mean
00:15:37 satan’s been teaching that for a long
00:15:39 time but
00:15:40 he’s the one that’s coined it
00:15:42 in the recent years but he’s a bad guy
00:15:46 and
00:15:47 the beatles
00:15:49 looked to him
00:15:51 as evidence in one of their albums
00:15:54 covers he’s on it
00:15:57 but anyways
00:15:59 so i just gave a link of
00:16:02 you may find interesting calendar
00:16:04 changes
00:16:05 uh you probably know a lot of it already
00:16:07 but it’s a little resource page i put
00:16:09 together
00:16:10 a lot of people’s articles that um
00:16:13 other people’s work that i’ve done to
00:16:15 show that
00:16:16 i have some articles on philo i need to
00:16:19 add to that because that shows how the
00:16:20 jews used to do things that the jews had
00:16:23 changed things
00:16:25 even hillel’s second calendar shows that
00:16:28 because of their days of postponement
00:16:30 right which are
00:16:32 not in torah and they’re not in torah
00:16:34 because on yahweh’s calendar they’re
00:16:37 just not needed
00:16:39 so
00:16:42 oh
00:16:45 so on world’s last chance
00:16:47 app have you used that before i know a
00:16:49 lot of uber saboteurians do okay a lot
00:16:52 of them do
00:16:54 anyway i mean i’ve heard of them and
00:16:56 they got a lot of videos yeah yeah i i
00:16:58 like them for their uh lunar sabbath
00:17:01 stuff some of their other things i don’t
00:17:04 like them so much i think they’re kind
00:17:06 of crazy
00:17:08 well you know like i said you know i
00:17:11 know we’re i do believe we’re in the
00:17:13 last stage but he
00:17:14 everything even believers
00:17:16 50 100 years ago 200 years they all
00:17:19 thought they were in the last stage too
00:17:21 oh but the apostles after christ i
00:17:23 thought they were um right
00:17:27 figuring out prophecy is a difficult
00:17:29 thing um
00:17:31 us later
00:17:33 in time we have a lot more hindsight to
00:17:35 try to figure out some of the things
00:17:36 that were prophecies that got fulfilled
00:17:40 for example i believe in the creation
00:17:42 prophecy i don’t know if you’ve heard of
00:17:44 that but the the first seven days of
00:17:46 creation is it’s history and prophecy
00:17:49 and i can show you a write-up i did of
00:17:51 that that i need to publish but
00:17:54 um
00:17:56 and
00:17:57 even the the parable of the
00:18:00 good samaritan even goes along with this
00:18:02 because
00:18:05 the
00:18:07 good samaritan took him to the hotel and
00:18:09 said i’ll be back in two days
00:18:13 christ will come back in two centuries
00:18:17 but anyways
00:18:19 there
00:18:20 i even see it in noah noah was 600 years
00:18:24 when the flood happened
00:18:27 the
00:18:28 second coming is going to happen after
00:18:31 the 6 000 years over it’ll happen
00:18:33 sometime after the morning of the 7 000
00:18:37 year but anyways
00:18:39 um
00:18:40 so it’s but i
00:18:43 nowadays we have 2000 years hindsight
00:18:45 from when you know peter and paul
00:18:48 were alive right so
00:18:51 um
00:18:52 but at the same time a few years later
00:18:54 the you know book of revelations kind of
00:18:56 makes clear that
00:18:58 things that needed to happen hadn’t
00:18:59 happened yet if they understood it um
00:19:03 more people understood that book back
00:19:05 then because they read the tanakh right
00:19:07 than today because it’s using imagery
00:19:09 from the tanakh
00:19:11 in addition to old imagery that people
00:19:13 have forgotten about also but
00:19:16 anyways
00:19:17 i’ve read online
00:19:20 um
00:19:22 but
00:19:23 uh just on the subject of the calendar i
00:19:25 i believe it starts at um
00:19:29 the
00:19:30 spring equinox
00:19:33 at sunrise new moon in fact i let me
00:19:36 just share something real quick uh let
00:19:39 me share my screen
00:19:41 um
00:19:46 and i’ll give you the link hold on
00:19:49 hi lisa i don’t know if you heard me say
00:19:52 hi
00:19:57 so sorry now i can’t unmute myself yes
00:20:00 hello
00:20:02 oh
00:20:03 well i didn’t do anything to make it so
00:20:04 i couldn’t ah if i can
00:20:07 too many things
00:20:09 so i did this
00:20:13 the other day
00:20:14 um using
00:20:16 the program i wrote just let me give you
00:20:18 the link in case anybody wants it
00:20:21 where’s the chat but oh there it is
00:20:26 sorry about not letting you in initially
00:20:28 when i go to share screen mode zoom like
00:20:31 goes funny and i i don’t know where
00:20:33 everything goes and i didn’t see the
00:20:35 notification you came
00:20:44 okay so here’s my little
00:20:46 paragraph but the day starts at sunrise
00:20:49 um and i can get into that if you want
00:20:52 the month which is not a misspelling
00:20:55 people used to say muth because of what
00:20:57 moon of the year you are in but it got
00:21:00 shortened to moon when people stopped
00:21:03 using the moon for the calendar
00:21:05 because moot was funny because it wasn’t
00:21:07 going off the moon anymore so they
00:21:08 changed it to month
00:21:10 so the moon starts at
00:21:12 the sunrise after the dark conjunction
00:21:16 and philo talks about using the dark
00:21:18 conjunction it was um
00:21:20 the talmud the philo happened was alive
00:21:23 during the time of yeshua’s mortal
00:21:25 ministry
00:21:27 the people who use the first silver goes
00:21:30 off go off of talmud traditions of men
00:21:33 which started after the destruction of
00:21:35 the second temple and i think that was
00:21:38 around
00:21:39 that it was put together on 100 or 280
00:21:42 the talmud i mean there were
00:21:44 the false traditions around before but
00:21:46 anyways and then the year starts at the
00:21:49 moon
00:21:50 after the spring equinox
00:21:55 so where i differ with world’s last
00:21:56 chance the day starts at sunrise they
00:21:59 put dawn
00:22:02 there is no way i’ve recorded i can show
00:22:05 you recordings
00:22:06 in fact i have one from a couple days
00:22:08 ago if you want to see it
00:22:11 but it’s not a very
00:22:12 good one i have one from january that’s
00:22:15 actually better but anyways but
00:22:17 if you go if you stay up or you go watch
00:22:20 recordings of it
00:22:23 the human eye cannot determine when don
00:22:26 is
00:22:27 there’s no way to tell
00:22:32 and so
00:22:34 an event needs to happen to
00:22:37 for us humans know when this day starts
00:22:40 because other than that it’s just
00:22:42 abbatory right oh no i think
00:22:44 five minutes ago was dawn no i think
00:22:46 it’s five minutes later because you
00:22:48 can’t tell by the human eye when dawn is
00:22:51 i mean you can tell with computers and i
00:22:53 know the equation because i’ve been
00:22:55 working on that well not by heart but i
00:22:57 know
00:22:57 i can show it to you what the equation
00:23:00 is for dawn
00:23:01 and sunrise actually
00:23:04 but the thing with sunrise
00:23:07 is you can see it
00:23:08 with your eye you can literally see it
00:23:11 um another thing that goes along with
00:23:13 this is sundials
00:23:15 um
00:23:16 i know two examples of
00:23:19 biblical people using sundials to
00:23:21 measure the hours
00:23:24 first ones in the tanakh was it first or
00:23:26 second kings about the sundial moving
00:23:29 backwards right
00:23:32 that event
00:23:33 which happened about 700 bc that’s an
00:23:36 interesting event but anyways and then
00:23:38 also the
00:23:41 dead sea
00:23:42 scrolls
00:23:43 people
00:23:44 the essenes
00:23:45 they had um
00:23:47 sundial they have i don’t remember one
00:23:50 but they’ve they found a sundial there
00:23:53 and sundials
00:23:55 and i’ve recorded this not with the
00:23:57 sundial but with the stick
00:23:59 they don’t start working until sunrise
00:24:03 dawn you can’t measure the hour at dawn
00:24:05 because
00:24:07 the hour
00:24:08 back then was measured by shadows by
00:24:10 sundials which worked by shadows and at
00:24:13 dawn
00:24:14 all the light that’s there is dispersed
00:24:17 light it’s not direct sunlight you need
00:24:19 direct light to get
00:24:21 shadows to start measuring your hours
00:24:24 the dispersed light
00:24:26 doesn’t cause shadows
00:24:28 well discernible shadows
00:24:30 sometimes when you get closer to sunrise
00:24:32 you can
00:24:34 if i tested this
00:24:35 this um
00:24:37 last
00:24:39 tuesday so just a couple days ago
00:24:42 um when i was out there because i
00:24:44 i didn’t just record it i was out there
00:24:46 this time because i went for a hike up
00:24:48 of the mountain to do this one but so i
00:24:51 was there when i was getting closer
00:24:55 to sunrise
00:24:56 i would put my foot down on the ground
00:24:59 and try to see my shadow i could not
00:25:01 discern my shadow all by itself now if i
00:25:04 moved my leg
00:25:06 i could then see very slightly a move if
00:25:09 i moved my leg
00:25:11 like this going back and forth then i
00:25:12 could discern a shadow but if i just my
00:25:15 legs stood still i couldn’t discern it
00:25:17 but this one was earlier closer to
00:25:19 sunrise not at dawn
00:25:21 um
00:25:23 but anyways
00:25:26 also an interesting point that goes
00:25:28 along with this uh i put it a little bit
00:25:32 here but i didn’t expound it a little
00:25:34 genesis
00:25:36 114
00:25:37 i mean
00:25:38 although this one is 116. what i want um
00:25:41 these are kind of big verses for
00:25:43 lunar sabbatarians right
00:25:46 um so it’s interesting
00:25:48 so the two great lights one to rule
00:25:52 the day
00:25:53 the lesser
00:25:54 the moon to rule the night
00:25:56 or dominate i think dominate is a better
00:25:59 term here
00:26:00 um
00:26:01 but rule
00:26:02 either one could go with the concept
00:26:04 that i’m going to try to bring out here
00:26:06 but dominate
00:26:08 brings out how it’s not the only
00:26:11 influence or the only thing that’s
00:26:13 around at that time it’s the major
00:26:16 influence or power at that time now
00:26:20 uh world’s last chance tries to say that
00:26:24 the day starts to dawn because that’s
00:26:26 when
00:26:29 night and light or dark and light are
00:26:32 equal
00:26:34 what does that mean so that’s when the
00:26:35 day starts
00:26:36 and they use this verse to justify that
00:26:39 because it’s
00:26:40 the sun rules the day
00:26:44 but
00:26:45 for something to rule or to dominate
00:26:48 it means there has to be something else
00:26:50 there to rule or dominate over if it was
00:26:53 the only thing there it would say
00:26:56 something more like only not rule or
00:26:58 dominate
00:27:00 and so
00:27:01 because
00:27:06 so their idea is that
00:27:08 the moon time
00:27:10 when the moon
00:27:12 is ruling
00:27:13 they think that the sun can’t rule
00:27:16 or be around when the moon’s ruling
00:27:19 but they don’t use that same logic
00:27:22 for the sun because everybody
00:27:25 can see the moon during the day while
00:27:28 the sun is definitely ruling and
00:27:30 dominating
00:27:31 and so
00:27:32 dominate rule just shows it’s not the
00:27:34 only one there it’s just the major
00:27:36 influence
00:27:38 but they don’t use that same logic when
00:27:40 it comes to knight because they want to
00:27:41 justify dawn instead of sunrise
00:27:44 does that make sense
00:27:51 you know like i said over the years i’ve
00:27:54 i’ve heard different versions of what
00:27:56 people believe and
00:27:59 and so
00:28:01 i mean i was evening the evening and
00:28:04 i i’ve heard people talk about you know
00:28:06 the day starts in the morning
00:28:08 it’s sunrise or dawn or whatever but
00:28:11 sure i i just
00:28:14 i’m just not there yet and i don’t know
00:28:16 if that’s the truth or not the truth and
00:28:19 so that’s where i that’s where i sit
00:28:21 um okay sure that’s understandable um
00:28:26 at least he’s having problems getting in
00:28:28 rosie um so last week i can give you a
00:28:30 recording that i did last week with
00:28:32 rosie but that i go over um
00:28:36 how it’s in the morning
00:28:38 most of it was from the book of mormon
00:28:41 um we could go over
00:28:44 bible verses that go that shows that
00:28:47 i did my favorite
00:28:49 example with rosie last week mana
00:28:53 and that’s at the end of the video i can
00:28:55 give you the link if you want to watch
00:28:56 it
00:28:59 and man is my favorite example from the
00:29:02 bible
00:29:03 on that
00:29:05 but there’s ton of examples from the
00:29:07 bible on that and genesis shows it too
00:29:10 and i talk about that in the video
00:29:12 but hey stephen i have
00:29:14 i have a question sure so i believe
00:29:18 i believe that the day starts in the
00:29:20 morning as well not from evening to
00:29:22 morning but
00:29:26 you know in scripture it says
00:29:28 and the night and the day
00:29:30 can you hear me or no yeah i can you’re
00:29:32 breaking up a little bit at first but
00:29:33 you sound fine now oh okay but how the
00:29:36 scriptures say and the night and the day
00:29:38 were counted as a day and that’s
00:29:40 of the night first is that what it says
00:29:43 in genesis or not
00:29:46 but
00:29:47 it depends on translation and i’m happy
00:29:49 to go over this again briefly but i do
00:29:52 talk about in the video from last week
00:29:54 but
00:29:56 people do proof text that to say that
00:29:58 the day starts at night but the problem
00:30:00 is when you look at that
00:30:03 night to morning that’s the period that
00:30:05 that little
00:30:07 sentence of the verse versus because
00:30:09 that’s
00:30:10 repeated six times actually because
00:30:12 that’s the end of each
00:30:14 six days
00:30:15 um
00:30:17 if you just proof text just that and try
00:30:19 to apply what they’re doing it’s saying
00:30:21 that
00:30:22 evening
00:30:24 to the morning is the day
00:30:28 just right after it says daylight when
00:30:31 the sun is up is day
00:30:33 and these people these orthodox and
00:30:35 people
00:30:36 pushing the orthodox false traditions
00:30:38 are using that text proof texting it to
00:30:41 say that the night starts a day and it
00:30:43 doesn’t
00:30:44 and so
00:30:45 there are four watches
00:30:48 so there’s 12 hours during the day and
00:30:49 four watches at night the first watch is
00:30:52 called
00:30:53 night
00:30:54 the last watch is called morning
00:31:00 even without knowing and so that’s like
00:31:02 saying
00:31:03 one through four
00:31:08 if that makes sense uh daniel has a
00:31:10 verse
00:31:11 talking about how
00:31:13 he got something uh it’s been a while
00:31:15 i’d have to go look it up again but uh
00:31:18 where he got something at night and he
00:31:21 and he refers to it as
00:31:23 between the evening and morning which
00:31:25 goes along to genesis showing that the
00:31:28 four night watches
00:31:30 um
00:31:31 so
00:31:33 if you take that verse
00:31:35 uh
00:31:35 you know evening to morning is day
00:31:38 that’s saying the night time is day
00:31:40 because that’s listing
00:31:43 from night to morning
00:31:46 so the day stops at morning
00:31:52 now if we go look at the the verse or
00:31:54 verses more closely what happens is
00:31:58 god does work
00:32:00 then there’s night then there’s morning
00:32:02 and he called
00:32:04 all that day
00:32:08 but the way people try to proof text
00:32:10 that one sentence
00:32:12 is that night morning is day and that’s
00:32:14 only 12 hours
00:32:17 and that’s not a
00:32:19 that’s not a day so day has multiple
00:32:21 meetings right day can mean when there’s
00:32:23 light and a day can mean
00:32:25 24 hours
00:32:26 and this is another problem with english
00:32:28 translations and just english in general
00:32:31 in this case right because date is an
00:32:33 overloaded word
00:32:34 um
00:32:36 but the 24 give or take the 24
00:32:39 hellenistic hours
00:32:41 starts
00:32:42 from morning
00:32:44 he’s god starts doing his work
00:32:46 then the night came and then the morning
00:32:49 came
00:32:52 and that’s what god called the day he
00:32:54 didn’t god did not just call night to
00:32:56 morning day
00:32:57 because
00:32:58 that’s the night time right just before
00:33:00 that he called the daylight
00:33:03 in anyways does that make sense lisa
00:33:10 can i say yeah yeah it makes sense
00:33:14 you know i know we may we may be
00:33:16 different on understandings but it says
00:33:19 there’s a scripture isn’t there 12 hours
00:33:21 in the day you know well i’d say from
00:33:24 sunrise to sunset would be your 12 hours
00:33:27 and then then you got your evening when
00:33:30 the sun sets would be your night time
00:33:34 12 from like when the sun sets
00:33:36 until the next morning when the sunrise
00:33:38 that would be your night
00:33:40 right and so
00:33:41 i do believe it’s 24 approximately 24
00:33:44 hours
00:33:45 and i do know they use the sun dial and
00:33:48 they didn’t have clocks like we have but
00:33:51 but anyways that’s where i’m at and i’ve
00:33:54 heard so many and i know a lot of people
00:33:55 that do believe that it starts in the
00:33:57 morning
00:33:59 the other thing
00:34:00 that i wanted to share and i’m not
00:34:02 trying to open up a can of worms but
00:34:04 you know there’s a lot of people that
00:34:05 believe in the flat earth and i’m not so
00:34:08 sure about that i don’t see how that
00:34:10 could be but there’s a lot of people
00:34:12 that i know that believe it yeah they’re
00:34:16 i don’t believe it
00:34:17 i don’t either i don’t either we i can
00:34:20 show from the bible and the book of
00:34:22 mormon it’s false and i can use history
00:34:25 to show its faults it’s
00:34:27 it’s a deception um
00:34:30 and
00:34:32 people are falling for it in fact
00:34:36 there’s what national geographic um and
00:34:38 i’ll give you the link to this if you
00:34:39 want i i have a lot of resources on flat
00:34:42 earth i need to put on a resource page
00:34:44 but
00:34:45 um national geographic did a documentary
00:34:48 on it uh and they went got some of the
00:34:50 big wigs
00:34:51 of flat earthers and took them to an
00:34:54 ocean right because
00:34:56 people from ages ago
00:34:58 knew the earth wasn’t flat because they
00:35:00 could see the ship sinking as it’s going
00:35:03 over the going farther away from
00:35:07 port right
00:35:09 it wasn’t that it was
00:35:11 just
00:35:12 getting smaller it was
00:35:14 sinking or looking like it was thinking
00:35:16 because the curve
00:35:17 and national
00:35:19 geographic took
00:35:21 um
00:35:22 some of the bigwigs of the flat earth
00:35:25 fallacy
00:35:27 and they saw that with their physical
00:35:29 eyes themselves
00:35:32 and they still didn’t believe it they’re
00:35:34 like well
00:35:35 the light’s just bending everything
00:35:40 talk about a strong delusion
00:35:43 they didn’t believe what they themselves
00:35:46 saw it
00:35:48 i
00:35:49 so here’s another interesting tidbit
00:35:51 along with flat earth that um
00:35:54 actually kind of goes along with the
00:35:55 calendar stuff
00:35:56 um
00:35:58 i’m gonna assume you’re in north america
00:36:01 or probably in the united states gary um
00:36:03 i know rosie and lisa are
00:36:05 um yeah i’m in east tennessee
00:36:08 i’m from salt lake utah i’m in argentina
00:36:11 right now so i’m on the southern
00:36:12 hemisphere right now
00:36:14 and an interesting tidbit is and this
00:36:17 shows that the flat earth is false also
00:36:20 when the moon crescent is on the right
00:36:22 for you
00:36:24 it’s on the left it’s on the left for me
00:36:27 and it’s because of the curvature of the
00:36:29 earth
00:36:30 and uh curvature earth that i’m you’re
00:36:33 looking at one angle the same uh
00:36:35 crescent and i’m looking at it at a
00:36:37 different angle it flips it because of
00:36:39 the angle that happens of the curve of
00:36:42 the earth
00:36:43 another thing that happens um the
00:36:46 i actually haven’t seen anybody talk
00:36:48 about this one but the stars
00:36:50 the mazeroth or as the hebrews call it
00:36:53 or the constellations or the
00:36:56 um
00:36:58 zodiac as the hellenists call it
00:37:00 um
00:37:02 they’re upside down in argentina because
00:37:05 it’s in the southern hemisphere
00:37:07 so when i look at um
00:37:11 not leo because the one
00:37:13 ah my mind just went blank don’t want
00:37:15 the archer one
00:37:17 um
00:37:19 oh my mind went blank
00:37:23 anyways um the archer constellation he’s
00:37:27 upside down for me
00:37:31 now just an interesting tidbit for rosie
00:37:33 and lisa since we’re here um when nephi
00:37:36 broke his bow
00:37:39 um what is that first nephi
00:37:43 1617 area i’d have to go look it up
00:37:46 anyways
00:37:48 i this is one thing it’s on my to-do
00:37:50 list and i believe that’s connected to
00:37:53 that constellation um
00:37:56 the information that’s there but anyways
00:37:58 um
00:37:59 fact here one thing i do want to share
00:38:02 since we’re
00:38:04 talking about this
00:38:06 um
00:38:12 i have
00:38:13 handy a couple verses that uh go against
00:38:17 the flat earth
00:38:18 uh and some from my background that i’ll
00:38:23 share
00:38:23 but rosie and lisa will probably find um
00:38:27 interesting
00:38:28 i have one handy
00:38:30 from
00:38:32 the bible i i need it’s just not
00:38:34 something i put a lot of effort into
00:38:36 so i’m not
00:38:38 but um for those who believe the book of
00:38:40 mormon
00:38:41 uh helaman 12 13-15
00:38:45 discounts the flat earth and so does
00:38:47 alma 3044
00:38:50 so
00:38:53 we can look at those real quick if you
00:38:56 guys want to
00:38:58 but so hilman 12 it goes off of
00:39:03 the joshua
00:39:05 the long day joshua’s long day now
00:39:08 interesting little tidbit on this
00:39:10 china
00:39:11 has a long day that happened the same
00:39:13 time joshua’s i mean
00:39:15 not long day china has a long night that
00:39:18 happened the same time joshua’s long day
00:39:21 and so that’s a
00:39:23 external
00:39:25 from the bible and book of mormon
00:39:27 evidence for this event a lot of
00:39:29 non-believers um criticize right because
00:39:32 that’s crazy
00:39:34 and some people will try to use
00:39:36 naturalistic naturalistic
00:39:38 explanations like oh
00:39:40 the light just bent or some stuff like
00:39:43 that but that doesn’t explain china’s
00:39:45 long night at the same time
00:39:48 but anyways this helium and verse goes
00:39:50 along
00:39:51 um
00:39:53 going off of that yeah if he say unto
00:39:56 the earth moved
00:39:58 it is moved
00:40:00 yea if he say unto earth thou shalt go
00:40:02 back it’s lengthened out the day for
00:40:04 many hours and is done and according and
00:40:08 thus according to his word the earth
00:40:10 goeth back and in perth on demand that
00:40:12 the sun stand is still yay behold this
00:40:15 is so for surely it is the earth that
00:40:17 moveth and not the sun so
00:40:20 flat earthers
00:40:23 i think the earth is flat and that it’s
00:40:26 not moving and that
00:40:28 the sun is going around at the top of it
00:40:31 which
00:40:32 it doesn’t explain the seasons and a
00:40:34 whole bunch of other things but anyways
00:40:36 but here the book of mormon is saying
00:40:38 the earth is what moved not the sun
00:40:42 um
00:40:43 and so here’s
00:40:44 the almost 34 1
00:40:46 emma 30 44
00:40:50 but allah said unto him thou hast had
00:40:52 signs enough will thou
00:40:54 tempt your god
00:40:56 will you say show unto me a sign when
00:40:58 you have the testimony of all these
00:41:00 brethren also the holy prophets the
00:41:02 scriptures laid out before thee in all
00:41:04 things to know there is a god yet even
00:41:06 the earth
00:41:09 and all the things that are upon the
00:41:11 face of it earth yeah even its motion
00:41:16 is saying the earth moves
00:41:18 which goes against the flat earth theory
00:41:20 yay and also all the planets which move
00:41:23 in their regular form do witness that
00:41:25 there is a supreme creator now
00:41:29 this this last part uh testifies of the
00:41:32 nazareth
00:41:34 and i
00:41:35 i don’t know if you want to get into
00:41:36 that but that’s a whole another subject
00:41:40 oh and so here’s one from ecclesiastes
00:41:42 that i have handy the sun also
00:41:45 arises
00:41:47 and the sun goes down and hastis to his
00:41:50 place where
00:41:52 he arose so
00:41:53 the flat earth
00:41:55 the sun doesn’t set it just gets smaller
00:41:57 right that’s their theory because it’s
00:41:59 just going to circle above us and so we
00:42:01 should always be able to see it unless
00:42:02 it gets
00:42:03 too small
00:42:05 but if you go watch the sunset you can
00:42:07 see it sets even at the ocean it sets it
00:42:12 doesn’t get smaller because they’ll
00:42:13 complain well with the mountains it’s
00:42:15 going to look like it sets but it’s
00:42:17 it’s above the mountain so why would it
00:42:19 look like it’s setting if it’s above it
00:42:21 but anyways
00:42:24 so
00:42:24 if you
00:42:26 so you can see here i have a lot of
00:42:28 resources on flat earth
00:42:31 if you guys want i can email you this
00:42:34 i think i can email this to you or maybe
00:42:36 i should just put it in a resource page
00:42:38 but i
00:42:40 it’s false
00:42:42 it’s there’s a lot of stuff here that
00:42:45 i’ve come across and thought about how
00:42:47 it’s false but
00:42:49 my main point
00:42:50 for it is that the lights in heaven
00:42:53 prove its faults
00:42:55 you can just look and these aren’t
00:42:57 things
00:42:58 that you just have to believe me on
00:43:00 there’s things you can just go do
00:43:02 yourself to see that it’s false
00:43:04 it
00:43:05 it’s not rocket science
00:43:10 there was a guy that wanted to uh fund a
00:43:12 rocket
00:43:14 launch
00:43:15 uh he couldn’t get any funding for it so
00:43:19 he changed his approach he decided he
00:43:22 was going to go to appeal to the flat
00:43:25 earther crowd saying i’m going to prove
00:43:26 the earth is flat by shooting up a
00:43:28 rocket
00:43:29 he got funding from the flat earthers he
00:43:32 did it and it showed the earth was
00:43:34 curved
00:43:36 and people didn’t believe it
00:43:40 anyways
00:43:41 it’s a strong deception that’s all i can
00:43:43 really say
00:43:44 because no matter what you do to show
00:43:46 them scriptures
00:43:48 or or
00:43:49 evidence even if they see it with their
00:43:51 own eyes they still don’t believe it
00:43:53 it’s crazy
00:43:56 it’s crazy but anyways
00:43:59 um
00:44:01 yeah
00:44:04 oh and there was
00:44:07 oh there was a torah teacher for a while
00:44:09 who recently died that was really pushed
00:44:12 flat earth and and actually aliens too
00:44:15 uh because he
00:44:16 was writing a movie
00:44:18 putting aliens which
00:44:21 i can’t remember the guy’s name but
00:44:23 really makes me
00:44:24 think he really didn’t believe torah
00:44:26 because aliens is a new world agenda
00:44:30 for people to believe in except
00:44:34 demons um
00:44:36 which
00:44:37 was exposed by russian
00:44:40 on video in like
00:44:42 the 60s or the 70s
00:44:44 anyways it’s been in the plans for a
00:44:47 long time which
00:44:48 it said i i even see quote believer
00:44:53 uh movies
00:44:54 push those ideas but anyways
00:44:58 um
00:44:59 we go back to the fulfill stuff if you
00:45:01 want that’s
00:45:02 probably more interesting some of this
00:45:05 stuff
00:45:11 unless um
00:45:12 lisa
00:45:13 if you have questions
00:45:15 and gary
00:45:17 on and and maybe even rosie on the start
00:45:20 of the day
00:45:21 a common text that people proof text to
00:45:24 prove
00:45:25 um
00:45:27 the day starts the evening is the verses
00:45:29 regarding uh day of atonement
00:45:32 because
00:45:33 uh day atomite
00:45:35 um
00:45:38 it’s more of a 24-hour period than it is
00:45:41 a day
00:45:42 because it starts from evening to
00:45:44 evening
00:45:48 so we could look at that but if you
00:45:50 think the day starts in the evening
00:45:52 you’d have to go
00:45:54 you’d have to fast two days because
00:45:57 if the evening starts the day
00:46:01 right
00:46:02 to go evening the evening you have to
00:46:05 if the day starts in the evening you
00:46:06 have to fast two days and not just one
00:46:12 but anyways we could look at that you
00:46:14 want or we can
00:46:16 go look at other things
00:46:18 right i’d rather go back to the fulfill
00:46:20 unless you guys want to talk about
00:46:22 something else
00:46:24 i’d like to go back to fulfill
00:46:27 okay all right
00:46:30 let me
00:46:31 okay i got that up
00:46:34 see we want
00:46:36 that one okay
00:46:39 let me move this so it’s not in the way
00:46:44 okay so i think i was
00:46:48 starting to talk about how
00:46:50 fulfill
00:46:53 that
00:46:54 so lisa you missed a little bit but we
00:46:55 were talking about fulfill and sermon on
00:46:57 the mount uh i’ll just give you a quick
00:47:00 overview since i don’t won’t do too much
00:47:02 and you can go watch the video
00:47:04 uh but matthew
00:47:06 5 19 a lot of people use to try to say
00:47:09 the law is fulfilled a a
00:47:12 aka done away with
00:47:14 but
00:47:15 the big
00:47:16 fulfill that people try to use to
00:47:20 do that
00:47:22 is pleirue is the greek behind it and
00:47:25 you go look at the definition of that
00:47:27 word
00:47:29 in concordances and lexicons
00:47:32 um
00:47:33 it’s fully preached
00:47:35 fully preached
00:47:37 fully preached and so this is from a
00:47:39 post i haven’t finished yet lisa
00:47:42 it’s been i’ve been sitting on it for a
00:47:44 long time because i keep getting
00:47:45 sidetracked but anyways
00:47:46 so
00:47:49 well respected um
00:47:51 dictionary definitions define playroo as
00:47:55 teach
00:47:56 teach teach
00:47:58 you go look at
00:48:00 some bible verses in the new testament
00:48:02 where paul’s writing
00:48:05 and i’m use right here i’m using the
00:48:06 brienne study bible i i like that one um
00:48:09 i do like the jst as you’ll see it i
00:48:11 have the jst there so anyways
00:48:14 um
00:48:15 i try to look at everything
00:48:17 but
00:48:18 by the powers of signs and wonders and
00:48:20 by the power of the spirit of god so
00:48:22 from jerusalem all the way around to
00:48:25 a locarium i have fully preached pleru
00:48:29 the gospel of christ
00:48:31 so fully preached
00:48:33 behind that is pl fully preached again
00:48:37 in colossians
00:48:38 i became
00:48:39 a servant by the commission of god
00:48:43 gave me to fully
00:48:45 play rue fully preach teach to you the
00:48:49 word of god
00:48:50 um
00:48:52 so
00:48:54 yeah i i give a lot of
00:48:56 links and resources
00:48:58 but the other thing i was starting to
00:48:59 get into is how
00:49:01 the wording that’s in the sermon on the
00:49:03 mount here
00:49:06 has to do with a hebrew idiom that
00:49:10 rabbis teachers used during the time of
00:49:13 yeshua’s mortal ministry and i was
00:49:16 starting to show some quotes for that
00:49:19 that i have
00:49:20 so
00:49:23 uh maybe we’ll just
00:49:39 okay so i guess right here there’s
00:49:40 dictionary i gave that definition
00:49:42 already
00:49:43 referencing the dictionary
00:49:47 okay so let’s go here okay so
00:49:50 destroy and this is talking about the
00:49:53 how rabbis or teachers during jesus
00:49:56 mortal ministry would talk to each other
00:49:58 okay
00:49:59 destroy and fulfill are technical terms
00:50:01 used in rabbinical argumentation when a
00:50:04 rabbi felt that his
00:50:07 colleague had misinterpreted a passage
00:50:10 of scripture he would say you are
00:50:12 destroying the law
00:50:14 needless to say in most cases his
00:50:16 colleague strongly disagreed what was
00:50:20 destroying the law for one rabbi was
00:50:23 fulfilling the law or correctly
00:50:25 interpreting the scripture for another
00:50:28 and so this is um
00:50:30 roy blizzard and david bivin um
00:50:34 understanding the difficult words of
00:50:35 jesus that’s a real good book i’ve read
00:50:38 it
00:50:39 it’s
00:50:40 basically kind of showing
00:50:45 a lot of the new testament is
00:50:47 misunderstood because of
00:50:49 misunderstanding of culture and
00:50:51 misunderstanding of hebrew idioms are
00:50:54 misunderstood and badly translated and
00:50:57 so that’s led to
00:50:59 a big mess
00:51:01 in today’s christianity world
00:51:05 so
00:51:06 here’s another one never imagine for a
00:51:08 moment that i intend to abrogate the law
00:51:11 by misinterpreting it my intent is not
00:51:14 to weaken or to
00:51:15 negate the law
00:51:17 but by properly interpreting yahweh’s
00:51:20 written word i am i aim to establish it
00:51:24 that is make it even more lasting in
00:51:27 fact
00:51:30 people will say christ got rid of the
00:51:33 law but when you look at the sermon on
00:51:34 the mount
00:51:37 he
00:51:38 explained the law
00:51:40 and
00:51:41 in some cases some people believe he
00:51:44 even made it harder
00:51:46 which i don’t believe that’s the case
00:51:48 but a lot of people claim that
00:51:51 that
00:51:52 he made it even harder for in one
00:51:54 example they use it they thou shalt not
00:51:58 commit adultery or look after another
00:52:00 woman
00:52:02 that was in the ten commandments thou
00:52:04 shalt not covet if you’re looking after
00:52:06 someone else’s wife to have her you’re
00:52:09 coveting so i i just think that’s a bad
00:52:11 example um but anyways
00:52:13 coveting is already was in the law so he
00:52:15 didn’t make it stronger he probably
00:52:18 uh reminded the people that time that it
00:52:21 included that or maybe some had
00:52:23 forgotten but he didn’t make it
00:52:26 more or harder he was just telling him
00:52:29 how it was from the beginning anyways i
00:52:31 would never invalidate the law by
00:52:34 effectively removing something from it
00:52:36 through misinterpretation
00:52:38 heaven and earth would sooner disappear
00:52:41 than something from the law not the
00:52:43 smallest letter in the alphabet
00:52:46 the ja or the odd not even it’s
00:52:49 decorative spur the title or
00:52:52 will ever disappear from the law
00:52:54 that’s from difficult words of jesus
00:52:57 also
00:52:58 um i can read some more i have more
00:53:01 quotes on this that shows that
00:53:03 uh and then
00:53:05 uh oh yeah here i misunderstand
00:53:07 hebrew idiom
00:53:10 which is all basically the same thing
00:53:12 um somewhere in here
00:53:16 i have
00:53:26 um i forgot i had that in there
00:53:32 oh yeah that one okay
00:53:34 um
00:53:35 i’m not seeing it right off
00:53:38 but there’s a page that shows like a
00:53:41 hundred translations
00:53:44 of the bible that’s not bible hub but on
00:53:47 this particular um issue where it shows
00:53:50 hundreds of bible translations of
00:53:52 matthew 5 that makes it obvious that
00:53:55 fulfill is teach um
00:53:58 hold on let me look at my one note maybe
00:54:00 i can find it there
00:54:02 um
00:54:04 i’ve also heard that fulfill also
00:54:06 it doesn’t mean ended but it can also
00:54:09 mean like uh
00:54:10 complete as in like like you were
00:54:12 talking about um
00:54:14 doing a degree and getting that class
00:54:16 done yeah yeah um
00:54:18 fulfill how to tell the words the
00:54:19 prophets um
00:54:21 even in english it does um
00:54:25 and i i think you got that from that
00:54:26 video that you shared with me which i
00:54:28 yeah i think most of it that’s
00:54:31 one of those
00:54:32 minor things that i disagree with um
00:54:34 partly but i i listen do you have some
00:54:37 scriptures that show the difference
00:54:38 between the moses law moses and torah
00:54:42 uh i do from the book of mormon could
00:54:44 you share those
00:54:46 uh i can
00:54:47 if you want
00:54:49 yeah
00:54:50 i don’t understand the difference
00:54:52 between the two
00:54:53 okay so um the quick
00:54:56 just overview
00:54:58 uh of it and i can show you some verses
00:55:01 on this
00:55:02 um is that
00:55:04 torah
00:55:05 was
00:55:07 is the law and actually adam had it too
00:55:10 moses was a restorer
00:55:12 and there’s a scripture says jesus says
00:55:13 i am the law
00:55:16 yes um
00:55:18 and
00:55:19 it’s more rhetorical
00:55:21 than literal um
00:55:23 but he is the perfect example
00:55:27 of the law
00:55:29 just like he said he was bread
00:55:31 he said he’s the bread of life um
00:55:35 and like the sacrament right we’re
00:55:38 yeah
00:55:39 it makes sense we’re pretending we’re
00:55:41 eating his flesh we’re not literally
00:55:43 eating his flesh um and this this could
00:55:46 even get into acts 10 if you want
00:55:48 um but
00:55:50 um
00:55:51 because
00:55:53 eating human flesh is against
00:55:57 the law yeah yeah you don’t want to do
00:55:59 that
00:56:00 and
00:56:02 so
00:56:03 even people who don’t believe in kosher
00:56:05 laws today right
00:56:08 most people there are some wicked ones
00:56:11 that don’t but most people believe
00:56:14 eating human flesh cannibalism
00:56:17 is wrong right oh yeah yeah definitely
00:56:20 yeah it’s pretty universally accepted
00:56:23 except
00:56:24 the
00:56:25 elite who follows satan they don’t in
00:56:28 fact
00:56:29 interesting little tidbit um
00:56:32 there’s a lot in
00:56:33 uh
00:56:34 willy wonka and the chocolate factory
00:56:36 and i want to expound it but it’s
00:56:39 i’ll just give you a little insight it’s
00:56:41 basically talking about babylon
00:56:45 and then the five kingdoms from um
00:56:49 nicker con from daniel’s
00:56:51 visions
00:56:53 and it’s all over it i i want to expound
00:56:56 that movie one day but it’s all over it
00:56:59 including to the point where
00:57:01 um
00:57:02 rome which is the guy that loves the
00:57:05 video games and violence the
00:57:07 entertainment that’s roam all over it
00:57:09 but when he gets transported
00:57:11 over um
00:57:13 into the tv and is smaller
00:57:16 uh the father’s like what am i going to
00:57:18 do with his small son what if he doesn’t
00:57:20 always come and he and
00:57:22 willy wonka’s like
00:57:24 well if you only got half of them would
00:57:26 you want the top half for the bottom
00:57:28 half
00:57:29 and the interesting thing is
00:57:31 history shows rome divided in half and
00:57:33 there’s lots of little tidbits like that
00:57:35 throughout the movie i know some of them
00:57:37 but not all of them it’s just crazy
00:57:40 they’re
00:57:41 hollywood’s laughing at us
00:57:44 because they know their history and our
00:57:46 scriptures better than most of us do
00:57:49 and because people love these movies and
00:57:50 they’re just making fun of us
00:57:53 but anyways
00:57:54 i have a scripture do you have a
00:57:56 scripture
00:57:57 oh yeah something to show us the
00:57:59 difference between the two
00:58:00 okay so the the main difference is
00:58:03 torah is an eternal law
00:58:05 um
00:58:07 and law of moses was a punishment given
00:58:11 because the israelites and the mixed
00:58:14 multitude
00:58:15 didn’t keep the covenant so he gave them
00:58:17 a punishment and its daily performances
00:58:20 and ordinances
00:58:22 so it’s the daily stuff that they have
00:58:24 to do and not the continual law
00:58:27 so yes let me
00:58:30 show you some scriptures on that
00:58:34 let me
00:58:35 share screen do
00:58:38 that one
00:58:46 so
00:58:52 so
00:58:56 the
00:58:57 my favorite one is mosiah 13 29-31
00:59:01 but
00:59:02 once you get the the concept down we can
00:59:05 you’ll see it in other places okay okay
00:59:08 [Music]
00:59:12 13 29 yeah through 31.
00:59:15 331. yeah so this is abinadi speaking to
00:59:19 king noah and the
00:59:21 um
00:59:22 and the 12
00:59:23 priests
00:59:25 right after their he had been
00:59:28 ben and i told them
00:59:30 after a question they asked that they’re
00:59:31 not teaching the law but anyways
00:59:34 right
00:59:35 and now i say unto you that it is it was
00:59:37 expedient that there should be a law
00:59:38 given to the children of israel yeah
00:59:40 even a very strict law for they were
00:59:42 stiff-necked people
00:59:44 quick to do iniquity and show so to
00:59:46 remember the lord their god
00:59:48 therefore there was a law given them
00:59:50 yeah a lot of performances and
00:59:52 ordinances allah
00:59:53 which they were to observe strictly from
00:59:56 day to day to keep them in remembrance
00:59:58 of god and their duty towards him but
01:00:00 behold i say unto you
01:00:02 that all these things were types of
01:00:03 things to come
01:00:05 okay so there’s
01:00:07 multiple parts in this
01:00:09 um
01:00:10 so as i was bringing out the
01:00:12 the law of most was given
01:00:15 because of their wickedness
01:00:19 just before moses went up the mount
01:00:21 sinai to
01:00:23 fast 40 days and get the law written
01:00:26 down
01:00:27 they covenanted to keep the law
01:00:30 and they had
01:00:31 so they had already promised
01:00:34 and
01:00:34 they had
01:00:36 the law already
01:00:37 but then they broke it
01:00:41 and moses came down and you know threw
01:00:43 the ten tablets down
01:00:46 um
01:00:47 and then he went back up and and got
01:00:50 a duplicate again um anyways
01:00:54 uh and also an interesting point here is
01:00:56 that
01:00:57 aaron was going to do a feast and that
01:00:59 was
01:01:00 uh pentecost
01:01:03 because
01:01:05 moses came to give them the law on the
01:01:07 day
01:01:08 that they’re celebrating the law
01:01:11 um
01:01:12 which fyi during this event abinadi’s
01:01:15 face glue
01:01:17 just like moses’s
01:01:19 um face
01:01:21 blew so
01:01:23 benedi here
01:01:24 is talking
01:01:26 during pentecost on this just the fyi
01:01:29 for you um the glowing in the face is in
01:01:34 i think it’s in chapter 12. um
01:01:37 or yeah i’m pretty sure it’s 12 but
01:01:38 anyways
01:01:40 um
01:01:40 but look how
01:01:42 quick to do iniquity
01:01:44 moses wasn’t gone long right
01:01:46 they were quick to iniquity
01:01:49 and slow to remember their god they made
01:01:51 a covenant just before moses went up to
01:01:54 remember their god they didn’t remember
01:01:56 their god
01:01:57 therefore there was a law given unto
01:01:59 them or an extra law a law
01:02:03 of
01:02:04 of performances and ordinances
01:02:09 it’s the additional of performances and
01:02:11 ordinance a law which we’re quick to
01:02:13 observe
01:02:14 day to day
01:02:17 to keep them in remembrance of their
01:02:19 duty towards him but behold i say unto
01:02:21 you that all these things are types of
01:02:23 things to come
01:02:26 so
01:02:31 the things the daily performance and
01:02:33 ordinances completely point people to
01:02:36 yeshua if they understood it
01:02:39 and he did that because he knew they
01:02:42 were wicked and try to
01:02:43 tell them you know
01:02:45 teach them this is what you’re supposed
01:02:47 to be looking for
01:02:48 right
01:02:49 and then he came and they missed it
01:02:51 in fact
01:02:52 um
01:02:54 when christ was on the cross and said it
01:02:56 is finished
01:02:59 that’s what is said at the end of a
01:03:01 peace offering which is one of the
01:03:02 sacrifices he wasn’t saying his work was
01:03:05 finished because his work is never
01:03:07 finished for example second coming oh
01:03:09 that’s a work he can’t be some people to
01:03:12 say that his work is done no
01:03:15 the thing is
01:03:17 the more you know of
01:03:20 the first part of the book right
01:03:22 the more you understand
01:03:24 the second part of the book the christ
01:03:27 was saying what is said at the end of a
01:03:30 peace offering
01:03:31 it is finished
01:03:33 the peace offering is what is finished
01:03:35 and this is something i haven’t
01:03:36 completely figured out okay
01:03:39 so this is
01:03:41 my current thinkings on here i wonder if
01:03:44 the atonement was a form of a peace
01:03:46 offering
01:03:47 which makes some sense to me from some
01:03:49 of my research on it
01:03:51 but it’s something i want to do more on
01:03:53 it’s on my
01:03:55 long list of to do’s of trying to figure
01:03:57 out more on
01:03:58 right but anyways
01:04:01 um
01:04:02 so just a little interesting tidbit and
01:04:05 he said it at the time
01:04:08 in between the evenings
01:04:10 when
01:04:11 the
01:04:12 uh levitical priests did a sacrifice on
01:04:15 that day at the exact point um but
01:04:18 anyways
01:04:20 um so the big thing on that verse
01:04:23 is it’s performances and ordinances okay
01:04:27 and the things that he’s kind of saying
01:04:28 that
01:04:30 go giving the reason why they got it is
01:04:32 because that’s what happened
01:04:36 in in exodus
01:04:38 he’s summarizing exodus right there
01:04:43 anyways
01:04:44 um
01:04:46 then
01:04:49 here’s another one uh oh here’s one that
01:04:52 would probably be a good one for you
01:04:53 that disconnect this case we lose um
01:04:56 run out of time
01:04:58 there’s one in fourth nephi
01:05:07 all right so i’m not seeing it quickly
01:05:08 there so let me get up
01:05:12 my another app and i’ll find it
01:05:16 um
01:05:16 but i
01:05:18 i have bits and pieces of this scattered
01:05:20 around some of my head some of my notes
01:05:24 i’m not the most well prepared
01:05:26 but it is something i want to vlog about
01:05:28 one day it’s just
01:05:31 it’s a big subject right
01:05:35 so we’ll go the fourth nephi
01:05:41 112.
01:05:44 is that it
01:05:45 uh i don’t know
01:05:46 yeah looks like it
01:05:49 so and they
01:05:50 did not walk after the performances and
01:05:54 ordinance of the law of moses but they
01:05:56 did
01:05:57 walk after the commandments
01:05:59 which were received from the lord their
01:06:02 god
01:06:04 continuing in fasting in prayer and
01:06:06 meeting together off
01:06:07 both to pray and to hear the word of
01:06:10 yahweh so
01:06:13 they didn’t walk anymore after the
01:06:14 performance and ordinances of the law of
01:06:16 moses which that goes along right here
01:06:20 that’s what was stopped
01:06:22 there are those blood daily blood
01:06:24 sacrifices which is what was stopped
01:06:27 which pointed people
01:06:29 to yeshua
01:06:31 in fact um
01:06:33 is it daniel 9 we can look at sorry go
01:06:35 ahead
01:06:36 are you saying that
01:06:37 is this the sacrifice stuff that’s the
01:06:38 moses stuff moses moses and the other is
01:06:41 the torah the day of the
01:06:43 yeah so they’re the daily performers and
01:06:46 ordinances
01:06:48 are the law of moses yeah that were
01:06:50 given
01:06:51 as a punishment because they didn’t do
01:06:53 what they said they would do
01:06:57 and that’s not all the sacrifices though
01:06:59 um
01:07:01 for example
01:07:02 paul was in there’s terms of sacrifices
01:07:05 right so not always those places
01:07:08 yeah
01:07:08 it’s only specific numbers
01:07:12 yeah
01:07:12 yeah some of the sacrifices are planets
01:07:14 but even
01:07:16 not all the blood sacrifices are going
01:07:17 away um in fact um
01:07:21 is it
01:07:22 zechariah or ezekiel i’d have to go look
01:07:25 again it’s been a little while but they
01:07:27 talk about
01:07:28 the temple that’s coming after uh the
01:07:31 second coming
01:07:32 right
01:07:33 the third temple which is
01:07:37 oh there’s a lot of misunderstanding on
01:07:39 that because people will try to use that
01:07:40 and say the antichrist is going to go in
01:07:42 there but if you go read those verses in
01:07:45 either ezekiel or zachariah it says that
01:07:48 no unholy person can go in there so
01:07:52 anyways
01:07:54 but my main point here is that um
01:08:00 those chapters and i can find it if i
01:08:03 have a post on this i need to i probably
01:08:06 should just publish it because i’m
01:08:07 almost done anyways
01:08:09 but
01:08:11 those verses
01:08:12 state that
01:08:14 there are going to be sacrifices in this
01:08:16 temple that happen that comes
01:08:19 after the second coming there’s going to
01:08:21 be animal sacrifices in there
01:08:24 and well joseph smith’s papers i had
01:08:26 somebody give me a link to some joseph
01:08:28 smith papers that said that joseph smith
01:08:30 thought that yeah i can show you the
01:08:32 quote if you want because i have it in
01:08:34 my post but it’s also in the book of
01:08:35 mormon um because it’s in malachi
01:08:40 4 and the book of mormon quotes malachi
01:08:42 4 right in third nephi
01:08:45 and so yeah
01:08:48 blood sacrifices
01:08:51 are coming back
01:08:53 the
01:08:54 not the daily
01:08:57 performance and ordinances ones that are
01:08:58 part of the law of moses which were
01:09:00 given as a punishment
01:09:02 but the ones in the temple are coming
01:09:04 back um and paul
01:09:07 for a period of time
01:09:09 took the nazarite vow
01:09:14 gary
01:09:15 do you know what that is the nazarite
01:09:16 val
01:09:23 no i can’t hear you gary but anyways
01:09:25 um that’s okay i at least yeah i had it
01:09:28 muted i had it muted the nazarite vowel
01:09:30 was the nazarite vowel would be where
01:09:33 you don’t cut your hair and
01:09:35 you don’t drink anything
01:09:37 yeah well you don’t take anything
01:09:39 you can you couldn’t eat a grape or a
01:09:40 raisin or right drink wine
01:09:43 so paul took the nazarite val
01:09:46 and he also ended his nazarite vow in
01:09:49 the new testament and part of the
01:09:51 nazarite vow to end it is an animal
01:09:54 sacrifice
01:09:57 yeah and he
01:09:59 he was he
01:10:00 paul kept kept torah
01:10:02 yes
01:10:04 yeah
01:10:05 and that’s the scriptures that i read
01:10:07 yes she did um and that your video
01:10:10 listed a whole bunch of good ones
01:10:12 um
01:10:13 of that that i’ll just share i i have it
01:10:16 because i’m in the middle of i’m like
01:10:18 halfway so i’ll just share the link
01:10:21 so so you’re saying that the
01:10:23 the daily rituals that they did with the
01:10:25 law of moses that’s just the law of
01:10:27 moses the rest of its torah
01:10:29 in general uh
01:10:31 yes
01:10:32 on each one
01:10:34 specifics we’d have to get into and i
01:10:36 don’t know every single specific yet
01:10:38 that is something i might do well
01:10:39 there’s a lot
01:10:40 a lot of stuff
01:10:42 yeah but
01:10:44 there are some that are specifically
01:10:47 were given as a punishment as it
01:10:50 get them to point them to christ
01:10:52 and they were done
01:10:54 daily
01:10:55 they were daily ones those are the ones
01:10:57 that have
01:10:58 been fulfilled i was looking through
01:11:00 them and some of them looked like they
01:11:02 you could actually just group them into
01:11:03 some of the ten commandments
01:11:05 yes so
01:11:06 go back to this fourth nephi um because
01:11:09 that ten commandments brings up
01:11:11 something that was oh no it was the not
01:11:13 the fourth new was it
01:11:16 oh yeah yeah the fourth nephi one
01:11:18 um
01:11:21 so look here so they have two categories
01:11:23 here if you pay close attention okay
01:11:26 the first part performance and
01:11:28 ordinances
01:11:30 second part commandments
01:11:32 now in a hebrew mind when they hear
01:11:34 commandments they think ten commandments
01:11:38 okay
01:11:41 and the ten commandments teaches law i
01:11:43 mean people think the sermon on the
01:11:45 mount teaches something new or
01:11:47 and it doesn’t it just uses the same
01:11:48 thing and people think when christ said
01:11:51 love your neighbor
01:11:53 and love god they think that was new it
01:11:55 wasn’t it’s in the
01:11:58 torah i’ll show it to you um but the
01:12:00 other scriptures in the old testament
01:12:01 let’s see the love of the lord with all
01:12:03 your heart yes there are deuteronomy
01:12:05 yeah deuteronomy
01:12:07 yeah i was going to get this exact one
01:12:09 but yeah
01:12:11 11 13. i don’t have that one memorized
01:12:14 but i’ll take your word for it
01:12:17 [Laughter]
01:12:20 when i first started kind of waking up i
01:12:22 was you know getting verses memorized
01:12:24 but
01:12:25 now
01:12:26 i i don’t have it all memorized because
01:12:28 there’s just so many there’s so many
01:12:30 yeah there’s so many
01:12:32 i had that one on the wall
01:12:33 oh oh
01:12:34 cheater
01:12:38 do you have the one uh love your
01:12:39 neighbor memorized you’re on your wall
01:12:40 too or should i look that one up
01:12:46 no i don’t have another one on the wall
01:12:48 on my wall
01:12:49 okay well my main point is
01:12:51 these things that people think christ
01:12:53 taught was revolutionary
01:12:56 i yeah they’re look revolutionary but
01:12:59 they were already there
01:13:01 they already gave them he already yeah
01:13:05 he
01:13:06 yeshua was a restorer
01:13:08 like moses and joseph smith
01:13:11 they’re just bringing back what was
01:13:12 already there that people forgot because
01:13:16 the majority of the jews in that day
01:13:18 were in apostasy um so here’s love your
01:13:21 neighbor here’s a couple from leviticus
01:13:24 there’s jacob mosiah
01:13:27 in fact sermon on the mount talks about
01:13:29 how i know some of them um
01:13:32 benjamin’s speech
01:13:34 uh mosiah two through five uh talks
01:13:37 about how torah is about love
01:13:39 but anyways
01:13:41 um
01:13:42 here oh here’s the deuteron here’s one
01:13:43 in deuteronomy 23 7. so there’s quite a
01:13:46 few that
01:13:48 and
01:13:49 so one two
01:13:51 three that i know of from torah that
01:13:54 says love the neighbor
01:13:57 so it’s nothing new
01:13:59 in fact
01:14:00 um
01:14:01 on that point we could go look at the
01:14:03 word new
01:14:04 new
01:14:05 because it says new and old
01:14:07 yeah well the
01:14:09 part that i’m getting at is new
01:14:12 in some cases would be better translated
01:14:15 as renew and if we go look at
01:14:18 that i’ll let me
01:14:19 show you from the dictionary just so you
01:14:22 know i’m not pulling your leg
01:14:24 okay
01:14:30 um
01:14:35 oh
01:14:35 dang it i
01:14:38 can’t because the website’s having a
01:14:39 problem um let me
01:14:42 uh oh yeah it is
01:14:46 just fyi that’s uh
01:14:48 asp.net
01:14:52 so
01:14:52 see this file dot io dot file load
01:14:56 exception i i
01:14:58 i know that is anyways
01:15:01 all right so i do most of my programming
01:15:03 at dotnet
01:15:04 um
01:15:09 i i have it on my phone
01:15:12 um
01:15:14 maybe i can show it in my webcam
01:15:20 lately
01:15:29 [Music]
01:15:33 so
01:15:45 [Music]
01:15:48 produced by chinese
01:15:52 renovated um
01:15:58 fresh after an event
01:16:04 this is how you make like a light bulb
01:16:07 if you have monkeys having past the
01:16:10 change or conjunction as a new moon
01:16:16 not cleared and cultivated or lately
01:16:20 cleared as a new land
01:16:22 in fact new moon as that’s in one of the
01:16:24 definitions here it’s not a new moon
01:16:27 right yeah cause the moon does its own
01:16:29 nude moon right right because it’s the
01:16:33 same old moon from beginning of time
01:16:36 yeah
01:16:37 it’s not a new one
01:16:39 um
01:16:40 i’m just i’m trying to find a real good
01:16:42 example
01:16:43 that the moon new moon is a good one the
01:16:46 not cleared and cultivated or lately
01:16:49 cleared as new land
01:16:51 land’s not new it’s
01:16:53 renewed
01:16:56 that has
01:16:57 lately appeared for the first time
01:16:59 lately appeared for the first time
01:17:02 that sounds like a renewing right
01:17:07 because
01:17:08 if it was the very first time it
01:17:09 wouldn’t have the word lately with it
01:17:11 right
01:17:12 that has lately appeared for the first
01:17:15 time meaning the first time recently
01:17:29 new formed newfound
01:17:31 is one of the definitions like if it’s
01:17:34 newfound
01:17:35 that means you lost it which means right
01:17:38 right you had it before
01:17:39 oh that makes sense that’s that clicked
01:17:41 right there yeah so there’s a couple
01:17:44 definitions it so not new doesn’t
01:17:47 necessarily mean something
01:17:49 brand spanking new right right
01:17:54 and that trips a lot of people up
01:17:56 because people like well christ said
01:17:58 this is a new commandment
01:18:01 yeah
01:18:03 in today’s vernacular it would be better
01:18:05 translated as renewed just kind of like
01:18:07 in the king james version of the bible
01:18:10 murder was translated as kill
01:18:12 because
01:18:13 uh 1611 english kill meant
01:18:17 kill and murder where in modern english
01:18:20 kill means one thing and murder means
01:18:22 another
01:18:23 and in hebrew though it has two
01:18:26 different words for it in hebrew that
01:18:29 it’s getting translated from so it’s not
01:18:31 like they just made this up it’s
01:18:32 actually in the hebrew that
01:18:37 got
01:18:38 translated
01:18:40 in 1611 english versus modern day
01:18:43 english in fact
01:18:46 these 16 11 ers are funny because
01:18:50 they’ll they’ll just use whatever they
01:18:51 want that proves their they think prove
01:18:53 their point because they won’t say uh
01:18:56 isis
01:18:57 right because that’s how jesus was uh
01:18:59 spelled in 1611 bible
01:19:02 there was
01:19:03 no j it was i it was isis yes yes jesus
01:19:07 but anyways
01:19:10 people just
01:19:11 take what they think proves their point
01:19:13 is
01:19:14 what i’m saying there
01:19:16 anyways
01:19:17 um okay
01:19:20 so i have more scriptures um about
01:19:23 uh
01:19:24 performances and ordinances if you want
01:19:26 or if that’s good enough for you great
01:19:29 i think i’m understanding that now that
01:19:31 you’re saying it was the daily things
01:19:32 that they received as a punishment that
01:19:33 were done away with but the rest of the
01:19:36 torah
01:19:37 which
01:19:38 likes the
01:19:39 the high holidays and then
01:19:41 and the sabbath are still still effect
01:19:44 in effect so yes um in fact
01:19:47 along those lines
01:19:48 uh christ um i forget where but in the
01:19:52 new testament we i’m sure we could find
01:19:54 it if we want but he says
01:19:56 um
01:19:58 love thy god and love thy neighbor as
01:20:01 thyself this hates all the law all of us
01:20:05 yep and the prophecy
01:20:07 yeah um
01:20:09 and that’s what the ten commandments are
01:20:11 based upon
01:20:12 is is love
01:20:14 and so there’s this culture about just
01:20:16 go out and love people i just love
01:20:18 people and i’m fulfilling the law right
01:20:21 well
01:20:22 god is teaching us how he wants us
01:20:25 to love others
01:20:28 where these people are like say well the
01:20:29 law is love i can just what i want as
01:20:31 long as i’m
01:20:32 loving right well does that include free
01:20:34 love from like the hippies in the 60s no
01:20:38 it does not because that’s adultery
01:20:40 um let’s see
01:20:41 in our scripture i just read some i
01:20:44 think of that gentleman that video
01:20:45 shared the ones about
01:20:47 um
01:20:48 if you don’t have any law that you call
01:20:50 lawlessness yeah you’re lawless
01:20:53 lawless yeah yeah he doesn’t you don’t
01:20:55 want lawless people no you don’t
01:20:58 even so here’s an interesting tidbit
01:21:01 along those lines and there’s the video
01:21:04 that uh rosie shared with me it’s oh it
01:21:07 looks like i already shared it i forgot
01:21:08 but anyways yeah you did um
01:21:12 the wicked right they actually need good
01:21:16 people to survive in fact the yin and
01:21:19 the yang symbol right with the black and
01:21:21 the white
01:21:23 that’s the evil and the good
01:21:26 evil need the good
01:21:28 because without them
01:21:30 they wouldn’t be able to survive because
01:21:31 they won’t take care of themselves
01:21:33 because the evil steal from the good
01:21:35 and so they need
01:21:37 some
01:21:39 somewhat good people to survive where
01:21:42 righteous people
01:21:44 they don’t need evil people to survive
01:21:47 they’re just there because they’re you
01:21:48 know doing their agency
01:21:50 righteousness always needs righteousness
01:21:52 but evil needs good to survive
01:21:57 i mean uh when the getty antons right
01:22:00 they needed to steal
01:22:03 from others
01:22:04 who were creating
01:22:06 righteously
01:22:09 to sustain themselves evil needs good
01:22:12 good does not need evil that’s why um
01:22:16 when it comes to
01:22:17 evil
01:22:18 they have
01:22:20 the darker
01:22:22 so the real real bad and then just the
01:22:26 ah i’m kind of good kind of bad i’ll
01:22:28 just you know as long as i’m not doing
01:22:30 anything seriously wrong i’m okay right
01:22:33 because if if they were really
01:22:35 completely righteous
01:22:37 they would
01:22:38 preach against the wickedness that the
01:22:41 other half is doing
01:22:43 and so they can’t have
01:22:45 the the wicked can’t
01:22:47 thrive off of
01:22:49 people really being righteous just those
01:22:52 who think are being
01:22:55 righteous and are being somewhat good
01:22:57 they’re they’re better than the than the
01:22:59 really wicked does that make sense
01:23:02 yeah
01:23:03 because anyways it’s we’re commanded as
01:23:06 followers to
01:23:08 uh reprove aka
01:23:11 warn people of wickedness in fact
01:23:15 um
01:23:15 one of the requirements
01:23:18 if
01:23:18 someone did something wrong
01:23:20 and you knew it
01:23:23 and you don’t
01:23:25 um testify of it
01:23:27 and tell them
01:23:29 that they’re doing something wrong to
01:23:30 help them learn something better
01:23:32 you’re responsible for that
01:23:36 and so
01:23:37 there’s all these people that go out and
01:23:38 say
01:23:40 you shouldn’t judge me
01:23:42 right but you know it’s funny they’re
01:23:43 judging me
01:23:45 for judging them and so they’re doing
01:23:47 what they’re telling me that i shouldn’t
01:23:48 be doing right but it says it says judge
01:23:50 righteously right judge righteously um
01:23:53 in fact people love to use uh was it
01:23:56 matthew
01:23:57 7 1 on that which is a bad translation
01:24:00 the jst fixes that
01:24:02 but if you go down
01:24:04 to verse three if i remember correctly
01:24:05 we can go find out it says
01:24:08 first
01:24:09 do something yourself and then second
01:24:12 help your brother
01:24:13 so
01:24:14 if you really weren’t supposed to judge
01:24:17 the act
01:24:19 why did verse 3 say first do this and
01:24:22 then do then go help your brother
01:24:24 [Music]
01:24:28 because helping your brother means
01:24:29 you’re making a judgment
01:24:32 and so the way they’re interpreting they
01:24:33 think that they need help
01:24:36 so verse i think it’s three uh is
01:24:39 showing the way that most people
01:24:42 misinterpret verse one is incorrect
01:24:45 um
01:24:47 and so
01:24:48 most
01:24:49 i’ve seen uh memes for it it takes uh
01:24:53 matthew seven
01:24:55 okay
01:24:56 so
01:24:58 [Music]
01:25:04 i’ve seen pictures and i like this where
01:25:06 they take
01:25:07 matthew 7 1 through
01:25:10 i don’t was three or five or something
01:25:12 like that i don’t remember but anyways
01:25:14 they they explain how christians
01:25:17 read it
01:25:18 they have it all blacked out right
01:25:19 everything blacked out except thou shalt
01:25:21 not judge except for those three words
01:25:24 which is basically what happens they
01:25:26 take it out of the context of the rest
01:25:28 of the verses now i do agree
01:25:30 the verse 1 is a bad translation
01:25:33 but if you look at the rest of the
01:25:35 context
01:25:36 it resolves the issue in fact on top of
01:25:39 that i can show you this because this is
01:25:41 like a big subject because i
01:25:44 i get it a lot
01:25:46 uh let me share my screen there’s
01:25:50 lots of verses on this um yeah okay
01:25:59 so
01:26:00 oh
01:26:02 the verse that i thought was three is
01:26:04 verse five so i was off two verses sorry
01:26:06 about that but see thy hypocrite first
01:26:09 cast out the beam of thy eye and then
01:26:11 shall they’ll see clearly how do you
01:26:13 sting
01:26:14 castle oh sorry there’s brothers i so
01:26:17 basically after you take care of
01:26:18 yourself
01:26:20 you then you can go take care of others
01:26:22 right
01:26:24 um
01:26:25 john 7 24 judge not according to
01:26:28 appearance but judge righteous judgment
01:26:30 oh wait a minute
01:26:32 we’re not supposed to judge oh wait that
01:26:34 one’s saying judge
01:26:36 leviticus uh this is torah
01:26:39 19 15 you shall not do
01:26:42 unrighteous in judgment thou shalt not
01:26:45 respect the person of the poor nor honor
01:26:47 the person of the mighty but the
01:26:49 righteousness
01:26:50 shall judge thy neighbor oh wait a
01:26:53 minute but in righteousness but in
01:26:55 righteousness shalt thou judge thy
01:26:57 neighbor we’re supposed to judge our
01:26:59 neighbor
01:27:01 but in righteousness and how we do it in
01:27:03 righteousness according to his law
01:27:05 that’s how you do it
01:27:07 yeah
01:27:09 i mean i have more i in fact from the
01:27:11 book of mormon here’s my favorite
01:27:13 example
01:27:14 um
01:27:15 alma 41
01:27:17 14.
01:27:19 so this is alma the younger um
01:27:24 reproving his
01:27:26 younger son
01:27:28 who was wicked right he was going after
01:27:30 harlot uh therefore my son see that you
01:27:33 are merciful unto your brethren deal
01:27:36 justly judge righteously
01:27:39 and do good continually he’s telling his
01:27:42 wicked son to judge righteously
01:27:48 which is
01:27:51 everybody should be judging
01:27:53 righteously and judging righteously is
01:27:55 according to the law and the statutes
01:27:57 that god gave us in fact
01:28:01 judges
01:28:02 when it
01:28:05 so here’s an interesting quote from
01:28:07 brigham young
01:28:08 which i mean
01:28:10 you know where i’m at i
01:28:12 i don’t believe he’s a prophet i think
01:28:14 he was a false prophet but he’s teaching
01:28:17 something here that i do believe is true
01:28:19 and some people need
01:28:20 quotes from people that they
01:28:22 think
01:28:23 are true to believe something so i’ll
01:28:25 just share that one in
01:28:30 it goes along with this
01:28:42 so if anybody’s interested here’s the
01:28:45 whole article
01:28:47 um
01:28:51 but this uh it definitely contradicts
01:28:52 what goes on in the church now if
01:28:55 children have sinned against their
01:28:56 parents or husbands against their wives
01:28:58 or wives against their husbands let them
01:29:00 confess their faults one to another and
01:29:03 forgive each other
01:29:05 and there let the confession stop oh
01:29:08 wait
01:29:09 you don’t have to talk to your bishop
01:29:13 and then let them ask
01:29:15 pardon from their god confess their sins
01:29:18 to whoever you have sinned against and
01:29:20 let it stop there
01:29:22 oh you don’t have to tell a bishop
01:29:26 which
01:29:27 um is the focus of this post that have
01:29:30 bishops or judges of israel
01:29:33 what bishops
01:29:35 aka judges should be doing and they’re
01:29:38 they should be acting like
01:29:40 judicial judges that we have in the
01:29:44 civil system right now but that’s not
01:29:46 what’s going on right today
01:29:49 they were supposed to
01:29:53 when people couldn’t resolve issues
01:29:57 on their own
01:29:58 between each other
01:30:00 they then would take it to a judge
01:30:02 and that’s when
01:30:03 the bishop
01:30:05 got
01:30:08 involved with is when the people
01:30:09 couldn’t take care of it themselves and
01:30:11 i have a quote from
01:30:14 a blog from alan rock’s blog
01:30:17 that shows historically uh here we go
01:30:21 that’s what happened
01:30:23 it wasn’t to go uh go get for
01:30:25 forgiveness forgiveness from god as they
01:30:28 make it out now to be it was
01:30:31 when there was a legal issue that they
01:30:34 couldn’t take care of their own a bishop
01:30:36 court it was stunned did he commit
01:30:38 adultery
01:30:39 well that’s the problem these days mom
01:30:41 said you’re
01:30:42 you hear about a bishops court getting
01:30:44 held every time some young man gets
01:30:46 caught playing patty cake with his
01:30:48 girlfriend
01:30:49 you know
01:30:50 touching too much right but in the old
01:30:53 days
01:30:54 bishop courts were used to settle
01:30:56 disputes when one member of the church
01:30:58 had been wronged by
01:31:00 another huh
01:31:02 it’s interesting it’s changed
01:31:05 yeah that’s for sure
01:31:06 um a big example i have in here showing
01:31:09 that from the book of mormon is alma the
01:31:11 younger alma the younger was a very
01:31:16 wicked man
01:31:18 he did vile sins
01:31:20 as stated in the book of mormon
01:31:23 where was he forgiven when was he
01:31:25 forgiven is probably a better question
01:31:27 while he was in a coma
01:31:31 and who would he be talking to in a coma
01:31:33 it was god is god who can give
01:31:37 forgiveness
01:31:38 not a bishop
01:31:39 in fact after that event happened he
01:31:42 went around repenting to the people he
01:31:45 wasn’t going to the bishop and each
01:31:46 local congregation said i did this in
01:31:48 the past i’m i’ve i’m confessing it and
01:31:51 i want to be forgiven of you
01:31:53 right
01:31:54 or through you
01:31:56 he was going to the people he wronged
01:31:58 like brigham young said to do that’s
01:32:00 what you’re supposed to do you go to the
01:32:02 people who you wrong which actually is
01:32:04 talked about in
01:32:06 sermon on the mount
01:32:07 like yeah yeah
01:32:09 if you go on an altar and you know that
01:32:12 someone has ought against you go to him
01:32:16 and
01:32:17 fix the problem the one that has ought
01:32:18 against you go to him fix it and then
01:32:20 come back to the altar it didn’t say go
01:32:22 to a judge aka bishop
01:32:24 sermon on the mount shows it the same
01:32:26 thing if you know how to read it and
01:32:27 understand it
01:32:29 um
01:32:30 and so
01:32:31 am i younger didn’t go to each bishop in
01:32:34 the local area to get permission or
01:32:36 forgiveness again he went to the people
01:32:39 who he wronged
01:32:40 and did what he could do
01:32:42 to fix what he broke he did an eye for
01:32:45 an eye an eye for an eye doesn’t mean if
01:32:46 i pluck out your eye i take out
01:32:49 you get it out mine it means if i
01:32:52 took your eyes
01:32:54 i now have to be your eyes
01:32:57 meaning i have to be your i see dog i
01:32:59 have to make it so
01:33:01 it is like that you never lost your eyes
01:33:04 not that i take your eyes from you
01:33:08 does that make sense
01:33:10 yep
01:33:11 and so many people
01:33:13 because that’s a hebrew idiom
01:33:15 and
01:33:16 eye for eye gets
01:33:19 completely butchered by people who don’t
01:33:21 understand it because it doesn’t mean i
01:33:22 take an eye for literally an eye for an
01:33:24 eye it doesn’t mean that it means
01:33:27 just
01:33:28 punishment is what it means
01:33:31 so if i
01:33:32 it’s not about retribution it’s about
01:33:35 restoration
01:33:36 restoration
01:33:38 it’s all about restoration it’s not
01:33:40 about
01:33:41 i took your eyes so now you take mine
01:33:43 it’s i took your eye so now i’m gonna
01:33:46 give back your eye or
01:33:48 do things under you like as if to help
01:33:50 you if you had your eye
01:33:54 so i’m gonna be your icing dog that’s a
01:33:57 good way of putting it but anyways
01:33:59 um
01:34:00 does that make sense
01:34:02 yeah yeah uh in fact
01:34:09 if
01:34:09 the court of laws did things the way
01:34:11 they’re supposed to like not ordering
01:34:13 the rich and honoring the rich means um
01:34:16 if you pay the judge he’ll
01:34:19 uh do what he wants
01:34:21 him to do right because
01:34:24 you’re paying him to get the judgment
01:34:25 you want
01:34:27 um
01:34:29 now i forget where i was going with that
01:34:33 oh um one thing i was getting at if
01:34:37 there’s a part of the law that if you
01:34:39 give false testimony
01:34:41 that would have
01:34:44 if believed got someone
01:34:46 a punishment
01:34:48 and has found out that you lied or gave
01:34:50 false witness
01:34:52 you
01:34:53 that punishment that he would have
01:34:55 gotten
01:34:56 so
01:34:57 you know that’s you but all those
01:34:59 testimonies that people there in the
01:35:02 on fast sundays and then now i just go
01:35:04 cringe at all the times oh yeah oh oh
01:35:07 man
01:35:09 people say testimony
01:35:11 it’s more like lagamone sorry
01:35:15 but um
01:35:19 alma 31 is an example of a fast
01:35:22 testimony from the book of mormon
01:35:25 go read it they all go up to the tower
01:35:28 or the pulp oh yeah yes
01:35:31 they all say pretty much the same thing
01:35:33 right yeah that’s what’s happening
01:35:35 and then they get down
01:35:37 yep yeah
01:35:39 i see that now
01:35:44 hey steve yeah
01:35:47 yeah this is gary wayne i’m i’m gonna
01:35:49 have to be going here soon and i i
01:35:52 appreciate everything you’ve done here
01:35:54 tonight and and uh i’m not real familiar
01:35:58 with the zoom and all this but it looks
01:36:00 like i can copy
01:36:02 uh save the chat for all these because
01:36:05 but how once you save it how do you
01:36:08 how do you get to the links to look at
01:36:10 them
01:36:10 um so
01:36:12 there’s a couple things you can do you
01:36:14 can copy and then paste all the chat
01:36:16 into a notepad
01:36:19 for example
01:36:20 and then you can copy the links and then
01:36:23 paste it in your url in the browser
01:36:26 um another thing is you can wait when i
01:36:29 put up the video
01:36:30 on youtube i put the links in the chat
01:36:32 whatever gets shared in the chat i put
01:36:34 it in the notes
01:36:35 in the description on youtube and it’ll
01:36:38 be there
01:36:39 yeah
01:36:41 go ahead you can go ahead and click on
01:36:43 it right now why zooms on it’ll take you
01:36:45 to your your uh
01:36:47 wi-fi your your internet and you could
01:36:49 bookmark it really quick if you wanted
01:36:51 to do it that way that’s what i just did
01:36:52 no what do i do
01:36:54 just click you can put just click on it
01:36:57 click on what the one that you want
01:36:59 that you want to look at
01:37:03 okay well there’s so many of mine there
01:37:05 and i’m going to have to go i’m getting
01:37:06 tired and
01:37:07 but i do have one i do have one other
01:37:10 question because i do would like to look
01:37:11 at the links but um
01:37:13 you know when we were talking about the
01:37:15 day starting in the morning
01:37:17 and i know people that keep you know
01:37:20 to keep the they or start their day in
01:37:23 the morning
01:37:24 but it seems like they’re only keeping
01:37:26 the 12-hour sabbath you know like
01:37:29 morning
01:37:30 when the sun rises or they work in the
01:37:32 evening and they and so
01:37:35 they’re not keeping a full 24 hours and
01:37:38 do you keep 24 hours or do you keep 12
01:37:40 hours i’d keep 24. um
01:37:43 i i know
01:37:45 i don’t i mean i think i think it is 24
01:37:47 hours yeah and i don’t have a full
01:37:50 answer for you on that at this point but
01:37:52 i do
01:37:54 believe i know where some of that
01:37:56 controversy comes from where they get
01:37:58 that and i’m happy to explain what i
01:38:01 know about it right now to you
01:38:04 so
01:38:05 there is a
01:38:06 false tradition that you can’t
01:38:10 walk on the sabbath
01:38:12 you can’t walk yeah you can’t walk you
01:38:15 there there there’s a phrase a sabbath
01:38:17 day walk you can only walk so many steps
01:38:20 in a day right on the sabbath that’s a
01:38:22 false tradition of the orthodox sabbath
01:38:24 days journey yeah it’s false it’s
01:38:27 nowhere in torah okay
01:38:29 and
01:38:31 but
01:38:35 the reason why people say you can’t work
01:38:38 during the day but you can at night is
01:38:40 because
01:38:42 yahweh had israel
01:38:44 you need some more orange juice
01:38:52 oh sorry
01:38:53 so sorry
01:38:55 so
01:38:56 yahweh had israelites
01:38:59 walk on the sabbath
01:39:01 during the exodus in fact it started the
01:39:05 15th of the first
01:39:07 moon is the sabbath and that’s when they
01:39:10 left
01:39:11 egypt they walked a lot they walked more
01:39:14 than the quote-unquote sabbath day
01:39:16 journey
01:39:17 and so the way around that issue is
01:39:20 people claim that you can work at night
01:39:23 to get around the issue of the walk
01:39:25 because they claim that the walk is work
01:39:27 and so you can
01:39:30 walk more than that
01:39:32 a lot of time more than that at night
01:39:35 because they need that exception because
01:39:38 it’s
01:39:38 obvious that god had it commanded
01:39:42 israelites to walk more than a
01:39:44 sabbath day journey
01:39:46 during the exodus multiple times
01:39:48 multiple times so they don’t have a way
01:39:50 around it
01:39:52 there was a gentleman that that i know i
01:39:55 won’t mention any names but uh
01:39:58 he’s a loner sabbath keeper and
01:40:00 he plays guitar he’s pretty good guitar
01:40:02 player but he he was playing in a band
01:40:06 and
01:40:07 you know a secular ban
01:40:10 and he’d get you know you know they
01:40:12 usually close down at two three o’clock
01:40:14 in the morning and comes home
01:40:16 and he says well i’m not breaking the
01:40:18 sabbath because the sabbath don’t start
01:40:20 the sunrise so i’m not breaking the
01:40:23 sabbath you know because of the fact i’m
01:40:25 getting home before the sunrise and so
01:40:28 i’m not breaking this habit but that
01:40:30 didn’t compute with what i believe okay
01:40:32 but
01:40:33 but i mean that was his reasoning to
01:40:35 think he wasn’t breaking this habit but
01:40:37 obviously
01:40:38 start at night so i don’t understand how
01:40:40 that would work but anyways
01:40:43 no i’m saying yeah it would be it would
01:40:44 start at night but i’m just saying he’d
01:40:46 you’d stay till the until
01:40:49 the lounge closes
01:40:51 and then drive home and he might get
01:40:52 home at three o’clock in the morning 3
01:40:55 30 4 o’clock in the morning he said i’m
01:40:57 not breaking the sabbath because
01:41:00 sabbath don’t start no sunrise you know
01:41:03 and i believe it starts the previous
01:41:05 evening at sunset so uh well i believe
01:41:08 it starts in the morning i i believe the
01:41:10 old days start in the morning and not
01:41:12 evening um but you would go from morning
01:41:14 to morning yeah i go morning to morning
01:41:17 i don’t go morning to evening i go
01:41:18 morning in the morning
01:41:20 right um but i think
01:41:22 the reason why some people think that’s
01:41:24 the case where you can just go half the
01:41:26 day is because
01:41:28 of
01:41:30 the issue of walking
01:41:33 because they say um there’s the false
01:41:35 tradition that you can’t
01:41:37 walk more than a sabbath day journey um
01:41:40 on the sabbath
01:41:42 um
01:41:43 and
01:41:44 but they see the israelites walking more
01:41:47 than that during the exodus so that’s
01:41:50 their way around it
01:41:53 since they walked and walking is work
01:41:56 um
01:41:57 they
01:41:58 have to say it’s okay at night because
01:42:00 the israelites walked at night in fact
01:42:03 um
01:42:04 jesus multiple times broke the orthodox
01:42:07 pharisaical
01:42:09 sabbath laws because there are laws of
01:42:11 men pick up your mat and walk he said
01:42:14 that on the sabbath
01:42:16 and the pharisees hated that because it
01:42:18 went against their false traditions
01:42:20 because that picking up your mat and
01:42:22 walking and walk was working because you
01:42:25 were carrying something you were
01:42:26 carrying a burden
01:42:29 according to them and so that’s one of
01:42:31 the reasons why they got mad at yeshua
01:42:33 because
01:42:34 multiple times he did things
01:42:36 i would say on purpose
01:42:39 to break their false traditions
01:42:41 healing on the sabbath is a big one they
01:42:43 said you they’re false traditions that
01:42:44 you can’t heal on the sabbath and jesus
01:42:46 did it all the time
01:42:48 anyways
01:42:50 um
01:42:51 so i hope that helps some it’s not a
01:42:53 full answer i haven’t figured it out
01:42:56 completely
01:42:58 but i go
01:42:59 sunset i mean sunrise to sunrise
01:43:03 is there a
01:43:04 number i could call you like a on a
01:43:07 regular phone call
01:43:09 or
01:43:10 is there no
01:43:12 there is um
01:43:14 how would i get that number
01:43:16 or could you email it to me or
01:43:18 sure i’ll you you can find me on
01:43:21 facebook and i can give it to you okay
01:43:24 um because
01:43:27 well i’m the admin of the lunar sabbath
01:43:29 believers group so that should be easy
01:43:31 to find right um i would prefer uh skype
01:43:35 or zoom but i’m fine with the phone call
01:43:39 i’ve gotta
01:43:40 back out now thank you nice to meet you
01:43:42 gary nice to meet you
01:43:44 bye bye rosie
01:43:46 oh rosie
01:43:48 oh sure he left it okay
01:43:53 so yeah i’ll give you my contact info i
01:43:55 just don’t want to put it in the video
01:43:57 oh i understand i i don’t blame you
01:44:00 because it’s going on youtube
01:44:02 so
01:44:03 uh i don’t need a whole i get enough um
01:44:05 spam calls from my car warranty i don’t
01:44:08 need any more
01:44:09 unwanted calls
01:44:13 well this is the first call that i
01:44:15 first
01:44:16 zoom meeting i’ve been on with you guys
01:44:18 and and i haven’t met any of you until
01:44:21 tonight so but i sure
01:44:26 well
01:44:27 but i like but i like being with other
01:44:30 believers you know even though we may
01:44:31 not agree
01:44:33 on everything yeah right and we can
01:44:35 agree to disagree but
01:44:37 you know there are some people excuse me
01:44:40 there’s some people
01:44:42 you know it says you’ll know them by
01:44:44 their fruit
01:44:45 and
01:44:46 they’re not showing good fruit when they
01:44:48 sit there and they go yeah but they
01:44:50 don’t keep the sabbath right so you know
01:44:52 they’re not going to make it into the
01:44:53 kingdom or they’re not doing this
01:44:55 so they’re not going to make it they’re
01:44:57 like saturday and sunday people well
01:44:59 they’re not even keeping the true
01:45:01 sabbath so they’re not going to make it
01:45:02 you know i don’t agree with that but
01:45:05 but there’s people like that
01:45:07 or they only keep 12 hours a day you
01:45:09 know so they’re not even keeping the
01:45:11 sabbath you know so
01:45:12 but they’re they’re judging them for
01:45:14 that judging them for this judging them
01:45:16 for that
01:45:17 and i don’t like that did that argue and
01:45:20 debate things like this
01:45:23 i really don’t there there’s a tricky
01:45:25 balance i’ll agree with that and i think
01:45:26 a lot of people go overboard on both
01:45:28 sides of that
01:45:30 um
01:45:31 issue
01:45:32 as
01:45:33 i i can give you scriptures from
01:45:36 torah and other scriptures that i
01:45:38 believe that tell us that we are to
01:45:40 reprove
01:45:42 um our
01:45:44 our brothers
01:45:46 um especially those who are believers
01:45:49 and also those who don’t believe um
01:45:53 but it’s a tricky balance um
01:45:56 because
01:45:57 a lot of people make it personal rather
01:45:59 than the act
01:46:01 and then
01:46:02 where when i do it i focus on the act
01:46:05 but
01:46:06 um but people take it as a personal
01:46:08 attack and then then start personally
01:46:10 attacking me rather than looking at
01:46:14 the the scripture or the doctrine or the
01:46:16 act
01:46:17 and so it’s hard
01:46:19 um because people take it so personally
01:46:21 and i think part of it is because of the
01:46:23 culture of christians is
01:46:26 the law’s done away with so what does it
01:46:28 matter
01:46:30 where
01:46:31 true believers
01:46:33 um
01:46:35 want to be corrected
01:46:37 if
01:46:38 if someone comes to me and shows me that
01:46:40 i’m doing something wrong according to
01:46:43 the scriptures
01:46:44 i’ll accept it and i’ll look at it and
01:46:46 review it and
01:46:48 i’ve had some
01:46:49 um
01:46:50 show me some scriptures like ah yeah i
01:46:52 need to change that
01:46:54 and i want that because i want to be
01:46:56 like the savior and the law teaches us
01:46:59 how to be like the savior
01:47:01 but if you just come and personally
01:47:03 attack me
01:47:04 and ascribe motives and all this stuff
01:47:07 that’s a personal attack that’s not
01:47:08 focusing on the act because
01:47:11 in the law
01:47:14 in the statutes and the judgments and
01:47:17 the requirements of a judge from torah
01:47:19 is you’re only supposed to judge the
01:47:21 actions you are never to
01:47:24 judge the motives and the intentions
01:47:26 because only god knows that
01:47:30 men cannot judge that
01:47:32 because they don’t know it only god
01:47:34 does you can speculate and guess at it
01:47:38 but you’re only speculating
01:47:41 so anyways
01:47:46 real quick one more on
01:47:47 a 24-hour sabbath i i don’t work on
01:47:50 transition day either
01:47:54 you know what transition day is
01:47:55 preparation day
01:47:57 transition it’s the 30th day of the
01:47:59 month
01:48:00 oh yeah yeah
01:48:01 i i call it transition day some people
01:48:04 call it an extended
01:48:06 new moon i i don’t
01:48:07 think that’s correct but anyways
01:48:10 i i don’t work on transition day either
01:48:12 so the 30th at the moment
01:48:14 well from what i’ve studied on it you
01:48:17 know when you if you look up in the
01:48:19 in the
01:48:22 what is it the uh
01:48:26 hebrew
01:48:28 uh
01:48:29 bible not the hebrew bible but um
01:48:34 anyway my mind just went i lost it but
01:48:36 anyways it says it’s a new moon period
01:48:39 it doesn’t say new moon day
01:48:41 and i agree with that i mean i go from
01:48:44 the last sabbath and if it’s a 30th day
01:48:47 you know that day in between is
01:48:50 is a holy convocation you know
01:48:53 you got your sabbath and then you got
01:48:55 your
01:48:56 new
01:48:57 well let’s say it’s the 30th day
01:48:59 and then i get people that say well
01:49:01 there can’t be two new moon days you
01:49:03 know there’s only one new moon day i
01:49:04 said yeah but it’s a new moon period
01:49:07 i mean
01:49:09 yeah so i think i hear what you’re
01:49:11 saying um
01:49:13 so in
01:49:15 the tanakh david there’s an example and
01:49:17 i can get it for you there’s example
01:49:19 david samuel
01:49:20 is it samuel i don’t know i i’d have to
01:49:22 look it up i don’t have it all memorized
01:49:24 i remember the stories and the
01:49:25 principles i don’t always remember all
01:49:26 the verses when he didn’t sit with the
01:49:29 king for
01:49:31 there’s an example of a two
01:49:33 day feast at new moon
01:49:36 now
01:49:37 if
01:49:38 they were all one clumped together one
01:49:40 day
01:49:41 it would call it a one day feast rather
01:49:43 than a two day feast and so to me this
01:49:46 is an example that it is actually
01:49:48 literally two different days
01:49:50 uh and that’s an example from the tanaka
01:49:52 i don’t make a big deal out of it as
01:49:54 long as they’re you know trying to do it
01:49:56 whatever right
01:49:58 but i will if they really want to talk
01:50:00 about i’ll talk about how the example in
01:50:02 the tanakh of the two
01:50:04 day feast
01:50:06 stating it’s two days not one day but i
01:50:09 don’t work on transition day because
01:50:11 it’s it’s a holy complication right
01:50:15 in fact um you might like this
01:50:18 uh this page
01:50:20 oh i already showed it to you my sabbath
01:50:21 page
01:50:22 at the top of it talks about how there’s
01:50:24 three types of sabbas the weekly sabbath
01:50:26 the moonly sabbath and the yearly
01:50:28 sabbath so
01:50:30 weekly sabbath you know lunar sabbath
01:50:32 the moonly sabbath new moon day
01:50:35 and transition day yearly sabbaths are
01:50:38 more commonly uh known as high holidays
01:50:40 right passover
01:50:42 unleavened bread so on and so forth
01:50:49 okay so if i copy this uh if i copy all
01:50:53 the notes here for the
01:50:55 if i save it just hit save chat that
01:50:58 it’ll save everything but then i’m going
01:51:00 to have to save it somewhere right
01:51:02 oh yeah i didn’t know there was a save
01:51:04 chat yeah there is a safe chat let’s
01:51:06 click on it it should
01:51:10 uh
01:51:11 i don’t know where it went because i
01:51:13 clicked
01:51:14 it’s the three dots down next to the oh
01:51:16 yeah yeah i i clicked the three dots and
01:51:19 i click save chat
01:51:22 it says it’s saved but it oh there’s a
01:51:24 button showing folder
01:51:28 should be able to get it that way
01:51:32 yeah i i can see it
01:51:35 so you can pick where you want to save
01:51:37 it right
01:51:38 no it puts it one place and you can
01:51:40 click on the open on in folder it shows
01:51:42 you and then you can move it if you want
01:51:46 but if anything if you can’t find it ask
01:51:48 me for it because i’ll i’ll be saving it
01:51:50 um okay i can give it to you
01:52:00 okay oh so
01:52:02 gary you might like this um depending
01:52:05 how much do you have a few more minutes
01:52:07 yeah okay so
01:52:12 so there’s a prophecy that i see in the
01:52:14 tanakh with um
01:52:17 joseph there’s a lot of prophecies in
01:52:19 with joseph of egypt in there there’s
01:52:21 lots but here’s one
01:52:23 that i have
01:52:25 theorized for a while and then i’ve
01:52:27 confirmed it so let me today and so it’s
01:52:30 just kind of fresh on top of my mind
01:52:32 so
01:52:33 with um the famine joseph right and he
01:52:36 had sent his brothers back and forth and
01:52:38 when benjamin came
01:52:40 and then when they were to go back to
01:52:42 their father uh benjamin had the silver
01:52:45 cup and his innocence
01:52:48 it is sack so silver is symbolic of
01:52:51 judgment right
01:52:55 anyways silver uh when you look in the
01:52:57 um
01:52:58 symbolism behind silver it’s judgment
01:53:01 and one thing i find interesting and i
01:53:04 had theorized because of this and along
01:53:06 with paul paul was from the
01:53:11 um
01:53:12 tribe of benjamin right he states that
01:53:14 in acts i believe
01:53:16 um
01:53:17 he also states how he was a follower of
01:53:20 hillel
01:53:21 and who well
01:53:23 is a big
01:53:24 big big guy
01:53:26 in his talmud false traditions
01:53:30 now
01:53:32 i believe the prophecy of benjamin with
01:53:35 the silver cup
01:53:36 tells us that halel is of tribe of
01:53:40 benjamin and now just out of curiosity
01:53:42 because i i heard it watching
01:53:44 um you know the foster person intell
01:53:46 with the video that rosie shared with me
01:53:48 today
01:53:49 uh which i haven’t finished but it is
01:53:51 good
01:53:52 um
01:53:53 i was like okay i’m gonna go look this
01:53:54 up because i believe hallel is a
01:53:56 benjamin because of that what i believe
01:53:58 is he is a prophecy in the joseph of
01:54:01 egypt
01:54:03 and his father hello’s father was of the
01:54:06 tribe of benjamin and
01:54:08 tribes are by fathers not by mothers as
01:54:12 orthodox jews claim which is another
01:54:14 false tradition which all these false
01:54:16 traditions
01:54:18 really mess up understanding
01:54:20 when you go look at all the genealogies
01:54:22 and the scriptures it’s all by males
01:54:25 it’s because
01:54:26 the tribe
01:54:27 your genealogy is by the father not the
01:54:30 mother but anyways
01:54:33 so anyways
01:54:34 that’s something i
01:54:36 put a little effort in today
01:54:38 um that i found interesting and
01:54:41 and confirmative of what i see as a
01:54:44 prophecy in the
01:54:45 um
01:54:46 joseph of egypt history
01:54:50 but there’s a lot there joseph of egypt
01:54:53 is a type for of yeshua’s first coming
01:54:56 all over it
01:54:58 so much all over it but anyways you have
01:55:00 to go if you come again we can go over
01:55:02 that if you want
01:55:05 all right well it’s nice meeting you
01:55:06 steve and everyone else that was on the
01:55:08 call yeah it was nice for you to come
01:55:10 here gary hopefully come again
01:55:12 all right thank you have a blessed night
01:55:14 yeah you too
01:55:19 so it’s just you and me lisa
01:55:21 yeah and i i’m i’m good to end it this
01:55:24 has been a long evening i’m just sitting
01:55:26 here finishing up housework while i’ve
01:55:28 been listening oh
01:55:30 uh
01:55:30 in i had problems but anyway
01:55:34 yeah thank you for all your preparation
01:55:36 uh there’s a lot of i didn’t use intel
01:55:39 well
01:55:40 but that’s not what i mean for all your
01:55:43 studies i mean you’ve just general study
01:55:45 in general yeah
01:55:47 yeah so thank you
01:55:48 oh i watched the
01:55:50 wedding uh video you shared with me
01:55:53 and i liked it
01:55:55 in fact i want to share i’ve just been
01:55:58 busy
01:55:59 oh yeah that’s fine that was really good
01:56:01 thank you for that yeah they put
01:56:03 together i think they did a good job
01:56:06 so yeah um
01:56:09 the guy’s voice that did it though um
01:56:12 i i think he sounds like a girl though
01:56:15 [Music]
01:56:16 oh
01:56:17 yeah i don’t know i haven’t watched it
01:56:19 for a while i just was enthralled with
01:56:21 the information they were giving and i
01:56:23 really appreciated it so oh yeah uh
01:56:25 there’s a few things in it that i i
01:56:28 question though like they’re starting to
01:56:30 kind of push in the rapture and the 10
01:56:33 days yeah no and i and i i’m sure
01:56:37 sure it’s like any anything and anyone
01:56:39 we learn from we all hit and miss
01:56:42 there’s you know so
01:56:44 but i i just think there’s a lot of new
01:56:47 things in there and
01:56:49 kind of gave you
01:56:50 a new
01:56:51 uh understanding which would make sense
01:56:54 because the lord spent so much time
01:56:56 likening
01:56:58 um
01:57:00 likening always reminding us
01:57:03 i mean there’s only two women types in
01:57:04 scripture there’s virgins and there’s
01:57:06 horrors and harlots and he’s always
01:57:08 reminding you that he’s the bridegroom
01:57:10 and the church should be the bride so
01:57:13 yeah um
01:57:16 some people take it negatively but
01:57:19 i mean
01:57:19 the bride that’s the beautiful desirable
01:57:24 bride right the virgin
01:57:26 but anyways
01:57:29 well and i and i just i think it’s a
01:57:32 good
01:57:33 it’s a good reminder for all of us that
01:57:35 that the lord would like us to be found
01:57:38 waiting and
01:57:39 prepared
01:57:41 for
01:57:42 doing our part to be prepared so anyway
01:57:44 i just yeah i enjoyed it so i’m glad you
01:57:46 took the time to watch it
01:57:48 yeah i enjoyed it and i’m gonna see if i
01:57:50 can find some time to watch the other
01:57:51 videos in the list that it was in um
01:57:54 because that was good i enjoyed it and i
01:57:56 want to share it and i actually want to
01:57:58 watch it again too but
01:58:00 i don’t know when it’s going to happen
01:58:02 because i want to study a lot of things
01:58:04 yeah
01:58:05 yeah the last little while i’ve been
01:58:06 working on
01:58:08 some calendar issues because the new
01:58:10 year’s about to start so i’ve been a
01:58:12 little sidetracked on that and
01:58:14 i don’t know how much you heard from the
01:58:15 beginning but i’m writing a program to
01:58:18 do all those calculations yeah
01:58:21 so well i think that’s great i
01:58:25 the purpose
01:58:26 of the adversary is to
01:58:29 hide truth and to make it hard to find
01:58:32 then the scriptures say that
01:58:34 he’ll change times and
01:58:37 and so to
01:58:39 to
01:58:40 but
01:58:41 he’s he keeps changing different pieces
01:58:44 of it and so
01:58:45 it’s hard to and i think there’s
01:58:47 different pieces of truth
01:58:50 found lots of different cultures have
01:58:54 hidden and preserved pieces of truth so
01:58:56 it’s kind of fun when you come across
01:58:58 people who are
01:59:00 finding and discovering yeah and
01:59:02 speaking yeah yeah
01:59:05 it’s a mixture
01:59:08 some places they’ll like proclaim this
01:59:11 but hide another one like you’re saying
01:59:12 but they do the same thing with lies too
01:59:15 so you really have to
01:59:16 right the big puzzle
01:59:18 but i mean if the lord is a separator
01:59:21 we all should be the lord separates us
01:59:25 he has so many scriptures on separation
01:59:27 he separates wheat he’s from the tares
01:59:30 he separates sheep and goats he
01:59:31 separates um
01:59:33 even separates the ten
01:59:35 right but that’s what we should all be
01:59:37 doing is trying to separate things
01:59:40 and
01:59:41 so information and stuff like not people
01:59:44 it’s the separation of
01:59:46 true and false traditions and
01:59:49 well there will be some kind of people
01:59:51 happening
01:59:54 because the evil truth no no no i’m just
01:59:56 saying that’s not our role isn’t to
01:59:59 separate the people our role is to
02:00:00 separate the information and people
02:00:02 separate themselves
02:00:03 because
02:00:05 when you’re trying to
02:00:07 when you’re trying to find truth and
02:00:09 share truth they separate themselves
02:00:11 from you you didn’t do any separating
02:00:13 just as you’re
02:00:14 in general i agree with that but there
02:00:16 is an exception um
02:00:19 and
02:00:20 ravening wolves
02:00:22 the
02:00:23 the scriptures actually command the
02:00:26 leaders of the assemblies to
02:00:29 forbid the ravening wolves from coming
02:00:33 yeah the sad thing is that’s usually the
02:00:35 leaders
02:00:36 but
02:00:38 not always but in current days it is um
02:00:42 but
02:00:42 if someone’s just a non-believer
02:00:45 it doesn’t say
02:00:46 to cast them out
02:00:48 ravaging wolves are something specific
02:00:51 and it’s not just something it doesn’t
02:00:52 specifically just doesn’t believe the
02:00:54 same way
02:00:56 yeah
02:00:57 so
02:00:58 yeah i’m being told i need to be a
02:01:00 little more quiet
02:01:02 no well you’re fine
02:01:03 thank you for
02:01:05 for your
02:01:06 uh presentation of your thoughts and
02:01:10 ideas and study
02:01:12 and we’ll see if you can give me one
02:01:14 more minute if you don’t mind okay
02:01:16 sure i is this all being recorded though
02:01:18 like i don’t love that it just feels
02:01:20 like private conversations are recorded
02:01:22 and then posted which i don’t know sure
02:01:24 so i’ll stop recording it okay
02:01:27 if you’re not comfortable