Summary: (will improve as time permits)
Talked some about Tzitzits and the imagery that goes along with them including hips and how they are symbolic of agency. Book of Esther has problems. D&C on the Apocrypha. Started to read and expound 1 Maccabees 1. Read first part of Daniel 8 that goes with 1 Maccabees 1. Maccabees is showing fulfilment of some of Daniel’s prophecies. Spoils and tithing. Some of Daniel’s prophecies were translated into the LXX before they happened. Maccabees has connections with Hanukkah. Circumcision was to be done during the time of the Maccabees but not now. PTSD is because of sins people were tricked into doing and they know it’s wrong. We are to only to defend on our own land. We are a continuation of Rome. Constitution of the USA was SUFFERED and is not so good.
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00:00:01 okay go ahead Ben okay so we were talk
00:00:05 just a minute I need to click the got it
00:00:07 thing here there we go
00:00:09 uh we were talking about Z
00:00:12 seats um and you know the significance
00:00:16 of Z seeds that being worn at the hip
00:00:19 the hip being symbolic of choices that
00:00:23 we of the of our freedom to make
00:00:27 choices and the uh when we set the seat
00:00:30 the seat seat is a the seat seat is
00:00:33 actually a
00:00:34 boundary it’s a
00:00:36 border and so we setting borders upon
00:00:40 our
00:00:41 choices now this is why we wear the seed
00:00:45 seed the remind us to set borders on our
00:00:47 choices to behave as Yeshua hamashia
00:00:50 would behave he always wore seed seats
00:00:53 and in fact it
00:00:56 was because the woman at the well or
00:00:59 because the woman the issue of blood
00:01:00 touched his seed
00:01:02 seed she was healed right just like
00:01:06 we’re healed by keeping his Commandments
00:01:09 and uh if you want a healing the best
00:01:13 way to prepare is start keeping his
00:01:15 Commandments
00:01:17 right right because you’re because when
00:01:20 you keep his Commandments you’re healing
00:01:21 your
00:01:24 spirit healing is not just a physical
00:01:27 thing or maladies are not just physical
00:01:30 no they’re also spiritual
00:01:35 yeah and so here’s uh another thing so
00:01:40 um I I forget the chapter in Genesis we
00:01:43 can go find it if we need to but when
00:01:48 Jacob was wrestling with the angel of
00:01:51 Yahweh which is Yahweh right um or was
00:01:55 it Angel there but anyways it was Yahweh
00:01:57 I forget the actual title that was used
00:01:59 there
00:02:01 um that was a sanctification event and
00:02:06 we can see that partly by his new name
00:02:10 AKA new creature right yes his new name
00:02:15 Israel which means Prince of
00:02:20 el yeah it has a couple meanings that is
00:02:23 one of them but the thing that I want to
00:02:25 bring out here is what happened to his
00:02:28 head
00:02:32 it was hindered right right now it was
00:02:37 it was dislocated it was either
00:02:39 dislocated or sprained right right we
00:02:41 can go look at the actual text but I’m
00:02:45 I’m actually not too worried about the
00:02:47 actual word but the images there is it
00:02:50 it made it so it couldn’t turn as
00:02:54 much now what happens when you’re
00:02:57 Sanctified you stay with within the
00:03:00 bounds of the
00:03:03 law his hip being hurt is symbolic and
00:03:09 it goes along with the imagery that he
00:03:12 did not turn out of the
00:03:18 way he didn’t make choices that took him
00:03:21 off the path off of the
00:03:27 sanctification he he he he finally
00:03:29 decided that he wasn’t smarter than yeli
00:03:32 yeah yeah because that was a real
00:03:35 problem with
00:03:37 Jacob yeah uh and to go along with that
00:03:40 hips as Ben already mentioned but I’ll
00:03:42 just reiterate it hips are symbolic of
00:03:46 choices he stopped making so many wild
00:03:51 choices he didn’t turn his hips as much
00:03:55 after that event right physically and
00:03:59 spiritually I will say he just had to he
00:04:02 just spent the rest of his life
00:04:05 suffering the consequences of the
00:04:06 choices he’d made previously correct and
00:04:10 now the one thing uh when we’re
00:04:13 forgiven spiritually that’s the most
00:04:16 important thing but at at times and
00:04:21 probably most of the times there’s still
00:04:23 the physical consequences that we have
00:04:25 to deal with with our um choices um
00:04:31 but it it will not have no once we’ve
00:04:36 repented and he’s accepted it right it
00:04:38 won’t have
00:04:40 any uh bearing when it comes to the
00:04:43 perly gates up in heaven right as in
00:04:46 final judgment
00:04:50 so okay well with that unless someone’s
00:04:53 got a question on that I’ll
00:04:56 pause oh
00:04:58 okay
00:05:01 so we decided to do some reading from
00:05:06 the meches from the Apocrypha the book
00:05:10 of
00:05:10 mccabes right um so I the one thing just
00:05:15 in general
00:05:17 um and there is a DNC section on this
00:05:20 that and I forget I probably go find it
00:05:24 but anyways um it basically brings out
00:05:28 how there good in the
00:05:31 macbes just you need to use some
00:05:33 discernment right because there’s some
00:05:35 problems in there also and not just
00:05:38 translation problems
00:05:40 but misunderstandings and misapplying
00:05:44 problems also right the um yeah the
00:05:48 basically the
00:05:50 Apocrypha it was not uh it was not
00:05:54 needful for Joseph Smith to do a uh
00:05:58 inspired version of to include the
00:06:00 Apocrypha in his inspired version
00:06:03 because
00:06:08 um it’s not completely the mind and will
00:06:12 account right the the some of the
00:06:14 authors kind of took Liberties and they
00:06:16 weren’t
00:06:18 as of course you could say the Bible is
00:06:21 not completely the word of God because
00:06:23 Song of Solomon was a liberty taken by
00:06:27 um taken by
00:06:31 uh I would say by Wicked
00:06:34 rabbis uh yes I I also and Joseph Smith
00:06:38 brought that out himself I would
00:06:41 personally add Esther to that also um
00:06:46 and um Jose Smith did no Corrections in
00:06:51 Esther which could suggest he didn’t
00:06:53 even get to it or read it because he he
00:06:55 went back and forth between the Old
00:06:57 Testament and the New Testament right
00:06:58 but anyways
00:07:00 um but I I see indicate it could also
00:07:05 indicate the same thing as with the
00:07:09 Apocrypha sure it could indicate that um
00:07:13 I just see there’s a lot of correlations
00:07:15 in Esther with paganism I just I person
00:07:20 it’s not just correlation they uh
00:07:24 basically uh they’re basically making
00:07:27 the practices of uh
00:07:31 basically they’re basically baptizing PR
00:07:34 Pagan practices which is uh yes yes it’s
00:07:39 yeah anyways so I I did find the uh
00:07:44 section on the DNC for the poar maybe we
00:07:47 just read that just real quick before we
00:07:49 start okay yes let’s have some so let me
00:07:53 just screens this is just
00:07:58 a for your understanding as we go in
00:08:02 yeah yeah um so okay here it is it’s DNC
00:08:08 91
00:08:10 LDS R LDS 88 uh 1835 92 and 1844 93 and
00:08:18 it was given in
00:08:20 1833 March 9th so um let’s see Kesley
00:08:26 you want to read those for us
00:08:32 yeah okay
00:08:34 [Music]
00:08:35 um barely I say unto you that it is not
00:08:39 needful that the Apocrypha should be
00:08:41 translated and who so receiveth not by
00:08:44 the spirit cannot be benefited therefore
00:08:46 it is not needful that it the Apocrypha
00:08:50 should be translated
00:08:52 amen so there’s good and bad in it um
00:08:56 and we could go look at the whole
00:08:57 section if you guys want but those those
00:08:59 basically basically basically what he’s
00:09:02 saying is read or beware not all of this
00:09:04 was of the spirit correct yeah I think
00:09:07 that’s a good
00:09:09 summary all right well with that we can
00:09:12 just go start reading through
00:09:14 it um I I will be completely honest I’m
00:09:19 not an expert here I do think there’s
00:09:22 good in it if nothing else for culture
00:09:24 and history and I do believe one of the
00:09:26 Abominations of desolations that The
00:09:29 Book of Daniel talks about is in the
00:09:31 book of
00:09:32 mccabes um and
00:09:35 also um multiple books of the
00:09:39 mccabes yes and uh possibly why Zach
00:09:43 wants to read it uh there are people who
00:09:45 like to read it during Hanukkah because
00:09:49 of some things that are claimed with it
00:09:52 which actually don’t have report but
00:09:55 anyways which we could which we can go
00:09:57 into should we find it
00:09:59 you’re right um so let me pause for a
00:10:05 minute okay well Zach uh since this was
00:10:09 your idea you want to start us out with
00:10:11 verse one
00:10:14 okay oh uh is that should I make it
00:10:17 bigger I think you could possibly make
00:10:19 it
00:10:20 bigger uh is that good or should I try
00:10:25 more it’s pretty good okay
00:10:31 and it happened after that Alexander son
00:10:33 of Philip the
00:10:35 Macedonian came out of the land
00:10:38 of chum had smitten Darius king of of
00:10:42 Persians and
00:10:45 ands that he reigned in his stad the
00:10:47 first over
00:10:50 Greece okay this is actually a um this
00:10:55 is actually in relation to one of the
00:10:57 prophecies in Daniel
00:11:01 uh do you happen to know which one off
00:11:03 top of your head we get just um review
00:11:05 that real
00:11:06 quick U the actual chapter I’m not quite
00:11:10 sure but it’s talking about the RAM and
00:11:13 the let’s let but let’s go let’s pause
00:11:16 for a second let’s go find it
00:11:21 yeah okay so one of the values of
00:11:23 reading the Apocrypha reading books like
00:11:26 macbes like the books of the macbes is
00:11:28 that you can see in them um either
00:11:32 fulfillment or Shadow fulfillment of
00:11:34 Prophecy that has already been given um
00:11:38 that this is one of these cases where
00:11:40 we’re this this record correlates very
00:11:44 strongly with this Prophecy from Daniel
00:11:47 which is talking about um the passage of
00:11:52 Kingdoms in
00:11:53 time um and it’s okay so we’re going to
00:11:57 start uh and we’re going to start with
00:12:00 verse
00:12:00 one okay and uh I’m
00:12:04 going Charles do you want to read verse
00:12:06 one for
00:12:07 us yes I can
00:12:11 read in the third year of the reign of
00:12:14 the
00:12:17 king
00:12:19 elazar okay yep a
00:12:25 vision appeared onto me
00:12:33 even even
00:12:36 under to me Daniel after that which
00:12:42 appeared on to me I
00:12:47 today I’m not seeing these okay you’re
00:12:50 having a hard time seeing it uh here let
00:12:52 me make it a little
00:12:57 bigger yes is that I don’t know the last
00:13:01 one I’m seeing
00:13:04 it okay after which appeared onto me at
00:13:07 the okay after that which appear onto me
00:13:12 there appeared onto me at the first
00:13:16 yes okay okay so this is um so basically
00:13:21 Daniel has it Daniel has another Vision
00:13:23 after the first which was of the uh five
00:13:26 kingdoms yeah yeah yeah so the first one
00:13:30 just so people are aware is Daniel 2
00:13:33 where he interpreted the dream saw and
00:13:36 interpreted the
00:13:39 dream uh that Nebuchadnezzar had
00:13:43 correct yes which is as been stated five
00:13:47 kingdoms not four okay I’ll just leave
00:13:50 it at that okay Zach you want to read
00:13:53 verse
00:13:55 two and I saw in a vision and can and it
00:13:59 came to pass when I saw that I was at CH
00:14:06 chushan in the palace which is in the
00:14:09 province of
00:14:11 alam and I saw in a vision that I was
00:14:14 and I was by the river of Uli okay so
00:14:17 here he’s telling you where he was when
00:14:19 he received the
00:14:21 vision okay I I would wonder and this is
00:14:24 just me speculating out loud it’s
00:14:26 interesting that he was by a river okay
00:14:29 yeah yeah that is interesting especially
00:14:31 when you consider that Rivers rep Rivers
00:14:34 running water represents Revelation uh
00:14:37 yeah and then also I mean this is where
00:14:39 we need more context uh it can also be a
00:14:43 dirty River also right but that would
00:14:47 just say where the revelations coming
00:14:50 from right but it doesn’t he just simply
00:14:54 States what that he’s by a river um
00:14:57 chrisy do you want to read verse three
00:15:04 yes I’m stopped to get gas right now so
00:15:06 I can okay oh yeah that’s right I forgot
00:15:09 you were driving my apologies okay then
00:15:12 I lifted up mine eyes and saw and behold
00:15:15 there stood before the river a ram which
00:15:17 had two horns and the two horns were
00:15:20 high but one was higher than the other
00:15:23 and the higher last okay so the ram is
00:15:27 Persia
00:15:29 which goes along in fact let me just
00:15:31 change the screen real quick so people
00:15:34 can see
00:15:37 it right
00:15:40 there right Aras King of the Persians
00:15:42 and meats okay so no the the Persian
00:15:47 Meats merged together okay that’s why
00:15:50 they’re kind of bringing that up right
00:15:51 there they merged together because
00:15:53 Darius defeated the mes
00:15:57 correct uh do you want go go back to Dan
00:15:59 Daniel yeah go back to
00:16:02 Daniel because we there’s still more to
00:16:05 be more to be display to this Pro no no
00:16:07 that’s fine I just wanted to bring out
00:16:09 that little part and show it right so
00:16:11 yep okay and um ke Kelsey do you want to
00:16:16 read uh verse four for a
00:16:22 minut you’re muted kelsley I know sorry
00:16:26 for some reason takes a lot of pushing
00:16:30 for it to unmute
00:16:31 okay I saw the ram pushing Westward and
00:16:34 northward and Southward so that no Beast
00:16:37 might stand before him neither was there
00:16:40 any that could deliver out of his hand
00:16:43 but he did according to his will and
00:16:47 became great yes so yeah so the Persians
00:16:51 nobody could withstand
00:16:53 him nobody could withstand him me they
00:16:56 expanded Westward northward sou to the
00:17:01 South now also it’s interesting they
00:17:03 didn’t expound East right as is brought
00:17:06 out in here in this Revelation right and
00:17:09 so but the interesting thing is is there
00:17:10 was one until one nation did withstand
00:17:14 them and we have that in history is the
00:17:16 Greeks correct and so here we go into
00:17:20 verse five and I’ll read that and as I
00:17:22 was considering behold an he goat came
00:17:26 from the West which would be Greece
00:17:29 Greece is west of
00:17:33 Persia came from the West on the face of
00:17:36 the whole earth and touched not the
00:17:38 ground and the Goat had a notable horn
00:17:41 between his eyes a notable horn between
00:17:43 his eyes that would be
00:17:44 Alexander yes and the horn just so
00:17:48 people are aware in in imagery has to do
00:17:51 with power and ruler yes a ruler power
00:17:56 something like that yes
00:18:00 okay and uh okay and verse six Stephen
00:18:04 yeah and he came to the
00:18:07 ram AKA Persia that had two
00:18:11 horns AKA Persia and and the mes right
00:18:17 uh which I had seen standing before the
00:18:20 river and ran unto him in furry of his
00:18:26 power so the he here is the um the goat
00:18:33 right because it ran into him but
00:18:36 anyways well the but the U the horn that
00:18:40 was directing the goat was Alexander who
00:18:42 was also known to be uh a man of a c a
00:18:46 coloric
00:18:47 temper right and one thing I I um just
00:18:52 to shamelessly plug my Charlie in the
00:18:57 Chocolate Factory kind kind of goes all
00:18:59 over things that’s in this chapter here
00:19:02 um
00:19:04 so I should also like to point out that
00:19:07 practically
00:19:09 that in in support of Hebrew of Daniel 9
00:19:15 being about the atonement and the
00:19:17 cessation of the day and the cessation
00:19:20 of the law of
00:19:22 Moses everything in Daniel 8 was
00:19:25 fulfilled before Daniel 9
00:19:29 uh yes I would agree with
00:19:31 that everything in Daniel 8 has already
00:19:34 been fulfilled so what we’re seeing with
00:19:36 mabes is the Fulfillment the further the
00:19:38 enrolling enrolling of the Fulfillment
00:19:41 of Daniel
00:19:43 8 see um because M much of the
00:19:47 prophecies in Daniel have to do with
00:19:49 events that have already
00:19:51 passed
00:19:52 um uh not all but a lot of it not all
00:19:56 but Mo but most
00:19:58 yeah including Daniel 9 which a lot of
00:20:03 false prophecy interpretations tries to
00:20:05 claim it hasn’t right yeah and so the um
00:20:11 and so this is okay so that’s um okay we
00:20:17 just read verse six verse seven
00:20:22 Charles can we go down a little
00:20:25 yes oops is it big enough or do I need
00:20:29 to make it bigger
00:20:31 Charles no it is big enough it is
00:20:34 okay and I saw him
00:20:37 come
00:20:45 into
00:20:46 RAM and SW and break his two horns and
00:20:51 there was no power in the ram to stand
00:20:53 before him but he cast him down to the
00:20:57 ground and stamped upon him and there
00:21:01 was none that could be that could
00:21:03 deliver the r out of out of his
00:21:09 hand okay so and that’s uh yeah so so
00:21:14 this is talking about the uh conquering
00:21:17 of
00:21:18 Alexander of the Persian
00:21:23 Empire and actually Alexander went on
00:21:26 even into India correct and but here
00:21:29 it’s kind of bringing out how much power
00:21:31 he had upon doing that right he just
00:21:35 trampled on them he just walked over
00:21:38 them right now Zach If You Could Read
00:21:41 verse
00:21:43 eight therefore the hego waxed very
00:21:46 great and when he was strong the Great
00:21:49 Horn was
00:21:51 broken and for it came up
00:21:54 four four not notable ones toward the
00:21:58 Four Winds of Heaven yes so
00:22:02 Alexander died in the height of his
00:22:04 power um some say he was poisoned some
00:22:08 say it was a disease right and it was
00:22:11 young too um yes he was very young
00:22:15 memory tells me 30 if I hopefully I’m
00:22:18 remembering that right yes and uh his
00:22:21 his kingdom was divided divided between
00:22:23 his four
00:22:26 generals um told him
00:22:29 to took over Egypt um Antiochus took
00:22:35 over uh
00:22:38 basically the Middle
00:22:41 East and the eastern part of the
00:22:44 Empire
00:22:46 um and then you had you had two others
00:22:51 who took over Greece and the uh and the
00:22:54 northern part of Asia
00:22:56 Minor
00:22:58 so that and so the kingdom was divided
00:23:01 in four see how very specific this
00:23:04 prophecy is see how we have the seen
00:23:07 acknowledged fulfillment of
00:23:11 it
00:23:14 y okay um
00:23:18 and verse nine
00:23:22 Kelsey and out of one of them came forth
00:23:25 a little horn which waxed exceeding
00:23:28 great toward the South and toward the
00:23:31 East and toward the pleasant
00:23:36 land yes
00:23:40 um so I I do believe that this horn that
00:23:44 came out is this this is the line of
00:23:47 Antiochus right right he is one of the
00:23:49 four generals that
00:23:51 really pushed Greece all over the place
00:23:54 right yeah yes he was yeah he was a deep
00:23:59 persecutor of all things
00:24:03 Hebrew
00:24:05 um this is why and toward the pleasant
00:24:07 land because he was ruling his people
00:24:10 were ruling over the pleasant land and
00:24:12 the here’s little known
00:24:15 fact the family of Herod were not
00:24:22 Jews they were of his
00:24:26 line ah uh of this little horn here yep
00:24:35 okay they were not Jews though they so
00:24:39 along with that I I would I and I don’t
00:24:41 know for sure but I would tend I do tend
00:24:45 to believe the pleasant land is
00:24:46 Jerusalem right yes that is um that is
00:24:50 how Daniel would look at it right
00:24:54 okay um and let’s see
00:24:58 okay and I guess it’s my turn for verse
00:25:00 10 and it waxed great even to the host
00:25:04 of heaven and it cast down some of the
00:25:06 host and of the Stars to the ground and
00:25:08 stamped upon
00:25:12 them so yeah he’s he’s waxing big in his
00:25:16 own
00:25:18 head so uh just for those who are maybe
00:25:22 not familiar with some of these old
00:25:24 English terms watch seeing is getting
00:25:26 bigger right yeah and wayy is getting
00:25:31 smaller but anyway yes so he’s he’s
00:25:34 getting big in his own head he’s getting
00:25:37 bigheaded he believes himself to be
00:25:39 capable of commanding the stars and and
00:25:41 commanding the host of
00:25:47 heaven and um let’s see verse
00:25:52 11 um I can do that
00:25:54 one yeah he magnified himself aka the
00:25:59 big head right even to the prince of the
00:26:02 hosts as in he’s you know he thinks
00:26:05 pretty highly of himself there
00:26:08 right and by him the daily sacrifice was
00:26:12 taken away and we’ll see this um in
00:26:16 macbes that he did take away made it so
00:26:19 they were not allowed to do the daily
00:26:22 sacrifice for a period of time and he
00:26:24 desecrated the sanctuary yes which is
00:26:29 um uh about the major war if not and
00:26:34 this is where I’m I’m not the most
00:26:35 familiar with macbes but it is a a
00:26:37 significant war in the mbes is over this
00:26:40 um issue right here
00:26:45 right and but it was restored also right
00:26:49 and even
00:26:50 Yeshua in the New Testament looks at
00:26:53 this uh event right here that happened
00:26:56 in mbes
00:26:58 yep so uh and the place of his Sanctuary
00:27:01 was cast down um so Chris do you want to
00:27:05 read verse 12 for us since you’re at
00:27:07 home and are in a place to read
00:27:11 sure and in host was given himm against
00:27:15 the daily Sacrifice by reason of
00:27:17 transgression and it cast down the truth
00:27:19 to the ground and it practiced and
00:27:25 prospered because of transgression
00:27:28 by the
00:27:29 people the daily he was allowed to bring
00:27:33 a sensation to the Daily offerings of
00:27:36 Moses now I I do want to bring out how
00:27:41 uh throughout the scriptures and I think
00:27:42 even more clearly in the Book of Mormon
00:27:44 it brings out if you want yahweh’s
00:27:47 protection we are to keep his
00:27:50 commandments so that way he can protect
00:27:53 us right right this brings out
00:27:58 because of reason or because they sinned
00:28:03 AKA not keeping yahweh’s
00:28:05 Commandments they were not eligible for
00:28:09 yahweh’s um
00:28:11 protection and which then allowed um
00:28:16 Antiochus with his profane host to cast
00:28:18 the truth down to the ground correct and
00:28:21 practice their profanities and their um
00:28:25 and their
00:28:26 obscenities yeah
00:28:28 and to
00:28:29 prosper so if you want yahweh’s
00:28:33 protection the answer is not a
00:28:36 building the answer is keeping his
00:28:41 commandments so that’s the section of
00:28:43 the prophecy that we are reading about
00:28:45 the Fulfillment of right now in mccabes
00:28:48 so let’s go back to mccabes
00:28:56 okay
00:28:58 all
00:28:59 right uh so I think that was all to help
00:29:02 us understand verse one right and so
00:29:06 that was very good um background
00:29:08 information that Ben helped us
00:29:10 learn um so I’ll read verse two and made
00:29:16 many wars and won many strongholds and
00:29:19 slew the kings of the earth so talking
00:29:23 about Alexander yeah yeah this is as it
00:29:26 just right here the Persians and then
00:29:28 reigned instead first over Greece um so
00:29:32 that’s talking about Alexander right
00:29:34 there um let’s see Zach oh wait no you
00:29:38 read one uh Ben you want to read verse
00:29:40 three and went through to the ends of
00:29:43 the Earth and took Spoils of many
00:29:46 nations in so much that the Earth was
00:29:48 quiet before him whereupon he was
00:29:50 exalted and his heart was lifted
00:29:56 up
00:29:58 so this is so this once again this is
00:30:01 talking about
00:30:02 Alexander um we’re still talk we’re
00:30:04 still on Alexander here he’s right so
00:30:07 one thing just uh make sure that people
00:30:09 know spoils have to do with war okay yes
00:30:13 spoils are the rewards of war and it’s
00:30:16 basically the riches of the locations
00:30:21 that you just
00:30:22 conquered right and the proper way to
00:30:25 tithe on spoils is just straight
00:30:28 10% correct and we’ll see that with
00:30:31 Abraham uh and that is a slight differ
00:30:35 of your normal income which is a tenth
00:30:39 of the Surplus but spoils are considered
00:30:44 Surplus
00:30:46 period um so that’s why it’s just a 10%
00:30:49 period because spoils are just Surplus
00:30:52 period okay
00:30:55 anyways Okay so so um and so
00:31:00 Alexander’s Al
00:31:02 Alexander it’s pointing out here
00:31:04 Alexander began to be an arrogant
00:31:07 that’s a good way of putting
00:31:10 it shall we move shall we move on to
00:31:13 verse three or to verse four
00:31:17 yeah um you want to read that
00:31:20 one okay and he gathered a mighty strong
00:31:23 host and ruled over countries and
00:31:26 Nations and kings
00:31:28 who became tributaries onto him uh the
00:31:30 Greek word the Greek and Persian word
00:31:33 for these tributaries is
00:31:39 satra that’s basically people who owed
00:31:42 tribute and soldiers to the
00:31:45 King which in today’s term is Texas but
00:31:50 that nominally were
00:31:54 self-ruling to to a certain extent right
00:31:57 um as long as they stayed within certain
00:32:00 bounds and they paid their taxes as long
00:32:02 as they PID made their payments they
00:32:05 could rule themselves to a certain
00:32:08 extent though they didn’t give him full
00:32:10 leeway but they gave a lot of leeway
00:32:13 right yeah
00:32:17 yeah um Christie you want to read verse
00:32:22 five yes and after these things he fell
00:32:26 sick and perceived that he should
00:32:31 die and I would wonder if he fell sick
00:32:34 go kind of along along with the theory
00:32:37 that Ben brought out that he was
00:32:39 possibly poisoned
00:32:42 right yeah there’s actually there’s
00:32:45 actually multiple stories surrounding
00:32:47 Alexander’s death and
00:32:51 um I would generally say that probably
00:32:54 there’s some truth in all of them
00:32:57 sure
00:32:59 sure and we got to kind of find out if
00:33:02 someone’s passionate about that kind of
00:33:03 figure out how all of them kind of fit
00:33:06 together right but any yes
00:33:12 exactly so uh Kesley you want to do
00:33:15 verse six
00:33:17 yep wherefore he called his servant such
00:33:20 as were honorable and had been brought
00:33:22 up with him from his Youth and parted
00:33:26 his King om among them while he was yet
00:33:29 alive okay so he found only four people
00:33:32 and and four of his servants who were
00:33:36 honorable which goes along with we read
00:33:39 in Daniel 8
00:33:42 right
00:33:44 yep ah and those were four generals
00:33:48 right
00:33:50 yes uh yeah when you when you’re reading
00:33:54 um because oftentimes uh even in Kings
00:33:58 when you read about the generals they’re
00:34:00 called
00:34:02 servants um so
00:34:05 yeah so um the king is one one thing I
00:34:10 do want to bring out just as we’re kind
00:34:12 of going through this it comes to my
00:34:13 mind a lot of people will claim that
00:34:16 this and other prophecies from Daniel
00:34:18 was written after the fact but that’s
00:34:21 not the case um as um Alex
00:34:27 Ander the great from Greece actually had
00:34:31 Daniel’s prophecies translated into
00:34:35 Greek uh before they happened or at
00:34:38 least um these before this one right
00:34:42 because Persia had the Persia one had
00:34:44 already happened but the Greece one
00:34:46 hadn’t happened uh not completely yet
00:34:49 right because
00:34:50 Alexandra I mean
00:34:52 Alexander uh caused it to be translated
00:34:55 into Greek before he died yeah so
00:35:00 anybody who says that these were written
00:35:02 after the fact um they’re expecting
00:35:05 people uh they’re expecting dumb down
00:35:08 people to not know their history which
00:35:10 is not such a terrible expectation
00:35:13 anymore
00:35:14 uh yeah sadly I mean I’m not a big
00:35:18 history buff I I I will be honest a lot
00:35:21 of the history I’ve worked on learning
00:35:24 actually helps me understand prophecy
00:35:26 but um well and that’s that’s the value
00:35:29 of history is that it helps us to
00:35:31 understand
00:35:32 prophecy that’s my motivation for
00:35:35 learning history anyways um well I mean
00:35:37 that’s one of the primary that’s one of
00:35:39 the primary values of History because
00:35:41 the main lesson that we learn from
00:35:43 history is that nobody learns from
00:35:44 history yeah
00:35:46 because history repeats itself over and
00:35:49 over again right so right so the M like
00:35:52 I said the main the main reason the main
00:35:55 lesson we learn from history is nobody
00:35:57 learns from history yeah yeah Amen to
00:36:00 that one because it’s repeating right
00:36:02 now but anyways so I think uh on to
00:36:06 verse seven okay um Zach you want to
00:36:10 read that
00:36:11 one so Alexander reigned 12 years and
00:36:15 then died okay let’s go on I think that
00:36:20 doesn’t really require a whole lot of
00:36:21 explanation yeah no no uh Kesley you
00:36:24 want to do eight mm
00:36:29 um and his servants bear rule everyone
00:36:33 in his
00:36:36 place uh so that’s talking about the
00:36:38 four servants right right everyone bear
00:36:40 ruled in the place that they had been
00:36:42 given right right which uh we talked
00:36:45 about um in Daniel 8 just a little bit
00:36:47 of
00:36:49 right um Charles you wanted um are you
00:36:55 there uh he’s still connecting so let’s
00:36:58 get some I I’ll read uh verse
00:37:00 n and after his death they put crowns
00:37:04 upon themselves so this would be
00:37:07 the that’s a really interesting way to
00:37:09 put Upon A really interesting way to put
00:37:12 it well and it’s very accurate though
00:37:16 because he didn’t
00:37:17 really um if I remember my little bit of
00:37:20 History he didn’t really name ex
00:37:23 successor right right right it’s very
00:37:27 accurate but it’s a very a very
00:37:29 interesting way to put it they put they
00:37:31 all put crowns upon themselves um which
00:37:35 which means that what this means is that
00:37:37 the Israelites are not looking at any of
00:37:39 these men as having been crowned by God
00:37:42 and we’re about right and
00:37:46 their their previous ruler didn’t really
00:37:49 call them they just kind of took it upon
00:37:51 themselves right
00:37:54 yep and so they did their sons after
00:37:58 them many years as in which typical in
00:38:01 most uh kingdom is the king gives it to
00:38:05 his son right right uh and that happens
00:38:09 for a while until the people get upset
00:38:12 with the evils hence and the evils were
00:38:16 multiplied in the Earth right because
00:38:19 sadly as time goes
00:38:21 on um men uh and women because men
00:38:25 includes both
00:38:27 um
00:38:28 forget how they got the riches they got
00:38:31 and start getting lazy and wicked
00:38:36 right okay and evils were multiplied in
00:38:38 the earth why these people were Greek
00:38:41 pagans that’s why right right and I
00:38:44 think also they forgot the diligence
00:38:47 that caused that made it to get what
00:38:50 they got in the first place right but in
00:38:53 addition they didn’t really believe in
00:38:55 Yahweh Elohim and his ways
00:38:57 right yeah they’re Greek pagans
00:39:00 yeah uh Zack oh no Charles are you there
00:39:05 if you can yes okay you want to read
00:39:08 verse 10 for
00:39:11 us I can
00:39:14 read it’s too small and they came out
00:39:19 of okay and there came out of them a
00:39:23 wicked
00:39:25 root an an an
00:39:31 antias antias
00:39:33 yes s
00:39:43 surnamed yes
00:39:45 yes okay son
00:39:49 of antias the king who had been un
00:39:54 hostaged at Rome and he he reigned in
00:39:58 the hundreds and 30 and 70 sth year of
00:40:03 the king of the
00:40:05 Greeks so this is the son of uh so this
00:40:11 is Antiochus epip epifanis who is
00:40:15 actually the son of Antiochus who was
00:40:17 the son of
00:40:20 Antiochus this is the third
00:40:22 generation
00:40:24 okay um and yeah we’re going to get into
00:40:27 the uh Hanukkah reading here I think so
00:40:31 okay well I I I do know they like kica
00:40:35 because of the war and then the and and
00:40:38 then what they like to claim as a
00:40:40 miracle that actually there’s no record
00:40:43 of it not even in the historians right
00:40:46 but anyways um chrisy are you willing to
00:40:50 read verse
00:40:52 11 yes in those days went there out of
00:40:55 Israel wicked men who persuaded many
00:40:58 saying let us go and make a covenant
00:41:00 with the Heathen that are round about us
00:41:03 for since we departed from them we have
00:41:05 had much
00:41:10 sorrow Yep this is typical of
00:41:17 Judah trying to make a deal if because
00:41:20 they’re struggling is that right what
00:41:23 well um so in Torah actually spells out
00:41:27 that you should not make a covenant with
00:41:30 um the wicked heathens okay yeah but
00:41:34 that this is typical of Judah after the
00:41:37 Captivity um they would make they would
00:41:42 U they were
00:41:44 constantly uh giving away their birth
00:41:47 right right right instead of returning
00:41:50 to the
00:41:52 law to get always would make a they
00:41:55 would make a half-hearted attempt at
00:41:57 returning to the law and then when the
00:42:00 persecution mounted okay we’ll make a
00:42:02 covenant with the
00:42:03 Gentiles yeah yeah and that happens
00:42:05 pretty much everywhere and a real famous
00:42:08 one is in Jeremiah where they did that
00:42:11 right just before the destruction of
00:42:13 Solomon’s
00:42:14 Temple
00:42:16 right where Jeremiah told them uh before
00:42:21 it was too late repent and you won’t
00:42:23 have this problem right but then they
00:42:26 didn’t repent and then they were told
00:42:28 just to take their punishment and then
00:42:30 they didn’t even want to do that they
00:42:32 just no they went many of them went to
00:42:34 Egypt where they were slaughtered by B
00:42:36 by the king of
00:42:38 Babylon yeah yeah you think after many
00:42:41 of uh Jeremiah’s prophecies came true
00:42:44 you might want to actually kind of take
00:42:45 them kind of serious but they didn’t so
00:42:49 yeah it’s because they’re really
00:42:51 incredibly smart
00:42:54 um yeah I hence a a sense of sarcasm in
00:42:59 that statement but
00:43:01 anyways you might I will say our current
00:43:05 Society has their own issues along those
00:43:07 same lines right but right I mean well
00:43:12 the facts of the matter are the entire
00:43:14 Christian Covenant is a chist is a
00:43:16 covenant with the Gentiles uh yeah and I
00:43:19 I will I’ll just say this to not crack
00:43:22 his TOA I don’t call myself a Christian
00:43:25 I am a nazarine
00:43:26 but anyways yeah okay so I think we’re
00:43:30 on verse I I simply classify myself as a
00:43:32 follower of the way sure so
00:43:36 12 uh Ben you want to read that
00:43:38 [Music]
00:43:40 one uh so this device pleased the
00:43:45 well uh as in uh the Jews yeah we’ll
00:43:50 make a covenant with the Gentile we’ll
00:43:52 make a covenant with these Heathen round
00:43:54 about us yeah that’s a great idea idea
00:43:57 yeah yeah uh the sad thing is it’s
00:44:01 easier to see the strength of men than
00:44:03 the strength of Yahweh right well it’s
00:44:06 because they’re right in front of you
00:44:07 yeah yeah and oftentimes they’re the
00:44:09 ones who are swinging the swords and
00:44:11 throwing the stones sure sure where um
00:44:17 Elija in the T Old Testament and his
00:44:22 servant uh was worried about all the
00:44:25 hosts of men that were coming after them
00:44:28 and Elisha prayed that his servants eyes
00:44:31 would be open to see the hosts or the
00:44:33 angels that were on on the Jews side to
00:44:37 help them out right and he was
00:44:40 amazed um we need to have our spiritual
00:44:44 eyes to see things right so
00:44:48 anyways um let’s see you can this is
00:44:53 almost like reading the first 12 verses
00:44:55 of Daniel chapter there’s yeah yeah it’s
00:44:58 pretty much showing the Fulfillment
00:45:00 right really
00:45:02 sad uh where you wanted to say something
00:45:05 Zach just wonder if you
00:45:08 could increase the text size sure uh I
00:45:12 will attempt
00:45:15 to wrong
00:45:17 direction um is that getting bigger is
00:45:21 that better yeah it’s better okay uh so
00:45:25 I think we’re on 13 Zack are you willing
00:45:27 to read that one
00:45:31 yep and certain of the people were so
00:45:34 forward herein that they went to the
00:45:38 king who gave them license to do after
00:45:40 the ordinances of the
00:45:43 human so this is kind of showing uh they
00:45:47 they’re doing something that is
00:45:49 explicitly stated not to in Torah to do
00:45:53 things after how the pagans worship
00:45:54 their false gods and here they went off
00:45:57 and did that which leads into the fact
00:46:01 that the Abominations of desolations
00:46:03 right this is after they’ve rebuilt the
00:46:06 second
00:46:09 temple this is after they built the
00:46:11 second temple okay okay so maybe I got
00:46:14 my timing off a little bit there the
00:46:16 first temple was Solomon’s
00:46:19 time so the second temple was the temple
00:46:22 built by Nehemiah oh right right right
00:46:24 yeah that’s right that’s right
00:46:26 um but even if if this built then they
00:46:29 they they went into wickedness and then
00:46:31 they uh because of their wickedness the
00:46:33 abomination of desolation happened right
00:46:36 and this is talking about the wickedness
00:46:38 that they’re entering
00:46:40 into but at least what they’re setting
00:46:42 up is a place out away from the temple
00:46:45 to do these
00:46:47 things okay that’s what verse uh 14 is
00:46:51 about okay well I’ll read that one real
00:46:54 quick whereupon they built a place of
00:46:58 exercise at Jerusalem according to the
00:47:01 customs of the Heathen so basically a
00:47:04 false altar right this is like
00:47:09 gymnasium uh I don’t believe place of
00:47:13 exercise of worship
00:47:16 yeah this is where not physical exercise
00:47:19 No in fact I think verse 13 helps give
00:47:23 us the idea or the context
00:47:26 that is um like false altars because the
00:47:29 ordinances of the heathens ordinances
00:47:32 have to do with religious ordinances not
00:47:35 not going to the gym
00:47:39 right in fact whereupon is a connecting
00:47:42 saying this idea is connected to the
00:47:45 previous sentence
00:47:50 right as does the uh as does the colon
00:47:54 instead of a semicolon
00:47:56 uh correct um but
00:48:00 anyways um this this exercise is
00:48:03 connected to the
00:48:05 ordinances um and and both of them
00:48:08 talking about the heans right one’s
00:48:10 customs and one’s ordinances those those
00:48:13 are just a just like in English you it’s
00:48:19 not
00:48:21 um it’s frowned upon when you use the
00:48:24 same word again really close to the
00:48:27 other instance right besides and besides
00:48:30 when it comes down to it what does God
00:48:32 have against
00:48:36 exercise yeah it’s good to exercise um I
00:48:39 don’t think God has anything against
00:48:41 exercise what he does have again is the
00:48:44 exercise of the ordinances of the
00:48:47 Heathen right right as in because we’re
00:48:50 not supposed to do anything in likeness
00:48:53 of how the heathen or pagans worship
00:48:57 their false gods right I think I I
00:49:00 brought up the gymnasium because I
00:49:03 remember them they did build
00:49:05 one
00:49:07 in in Jerusalem somewhere yes they did
00:49:12 and yeah that has the gymnasium doesn’t
00:49:15 really have much to do with
00:49:23 um it has the gymnasium is not so much
00:49:27 about uh it’s not so much about uh
00:49:31 Heathen practice as it except that like
00:49:34 the Greeks the Greeks the Greeks very
00:49:38 much worshiped their own bodies yeah
00:49:40 they did the naked right yes they did
00:49:44 they did their Athletics naked yes yeah
00:49:47 and that’s why some of the Jews were
00:49:50 embarrassed about being
00:49:52 circumcised because why else would they
00:49:54 be embarrassed about if unless it was
00:49:56 naked right here we go and made
00:49:58 themselves see the very next verse and
00:50:00 made themselves uncircumcised and
00:50:01 forsook the Holy Covenant and joined
00:50:03 themselves to the Heathen and were sold
00:50:05 to to do
00:50:07 Mischief yeah
00:50:12 um so anyways this is where they didn’t
00:50:16 do a commandment and circumcision was a
00:50:21 a punishment that ended at the cross um
00:50:27 and we can get that from multiple places
00:50:29 from Paul from JC
00:50:32 Genesis uh Book of Mormon and DNC right
00:50:36 but at the point
00:50:38 of while it was a punishment at the
00:50:41 point of this publication or at the
00:50:44 point that this was
00:50:45 written it was still a part of the
00:50:47 Covenant yeah it was still something
00:50:50 they were supposed to be doing it was it
00:50:52 was yeah it was still a part of the
00:50:54 Covenant um because of the
00:50:58 uh so that was to make themselves
00:51:02 uncircumcised to to not to seee
00:51:06 circumcision uh and forsake to seee
00:51:10 circumcision was basically to forsake
00:51:12 the Covenant it really it really was on
00:51:15 a certain on a certain level if you’re a
00:51:17 Hebrew
00:51:18 definitely well this is
00:51:21 where I I even see this today where
00:51:24 people want to claim there of
00:51:27 Yahweh but but they don’t want to make
00:51:30 it look like they are in the world right
00:51:33 so they’re not being unto yes in all
00:51:36 things they want to uh they want to
00:51:38 claim they they want to claim they are
00:51:40 of Yahweh but they want to claim that
00:51:42 they can worship him any any day they
00:51:44 choose they want to claim that they’re
00:51:46 of Yahweh but they don’t want to wear
00:51:48 zits they want to
00:51:51 claim
00:51:54 um yeah there’s all kinds of people who
00:51:58 for one reason they want to claim that
00:52:00 they are of Yahweh but they don’t want
00:52:02 to eat
00:52:03 kosher right they they basically want to
00:52:06 claim it so that way they can get what
00:52:07 they want but they’re ashamed of him in
00:52:10 his ways
00:52:13 right and thus they they have not
00:52:16 written upon their
00:52:18 heart uh they’re just doing something to
00:52:21 try to get something out of it rather
00:52:24 than becoming or Andor out of love
00:52:29 right um when you love your spouse you
00:52:33 speak you stick up for your spouse when
00:52:37 someone’s talking negatively about your
00:52:40 spouse you don’t go along with the
00:52:42 negative speak you stand up for your
00:52:45 spouse and Yahweh is to
00:52:48 be is coming back to get the bride so
00:52:52 that way we can become the spouse right
00:52:55 so so
00:52:58 anyways uh okay so I’m sorry I forget
00:53:01 what verse we’re
00:53:02 on
00:53:04 um right 15 yep yeah uh
00:53:09 16 let’s see Tesla you want to do that
00:53:13 one
00:53:15 okay now when the kingdom was
00:53:18 established before Antiochus he thought
00:53:21 to Reign Over Egypt that he might have
00:53:23 the Dominion of two
00:53:26 Realms okay so he’s he’s he’s too big
00:53:30 for his own
00:53:31 kingdom yeah yeah well this is where
00:53:33 he’s trying to encroach on upon other
00:53:35 people
00:53:39 right um and and this book is history so
00:53:43 and there’s other history that kind ofh
00:53:45 confirms that happened right yes there
00:53:50 I’ll read 17 wherefore he entered into
00:53:53 Egypt with a great multitud ude with
00:53:56 chariots and elephants and Horsemen and
00:53:59 great
00:54:00 Navy
00:54:03 um anyways elephants is has a lot to do
00:54:06 with some of the wars
00:54:08 but also oh go ahead war elephants were
00:54:12 the most feared weapon of any
00:54:16 army
00:54:18 uh of any army in that time because they
00:54:21 were basically uh walking they were
00:54:25 basically walking towers and battlements
00:54:28 because archers could stand on a
00:54:30 platform on the back of the elephant and
00:54:33 fire into the enemy round about the
00:54:35 elephant itself would have the elephant
00:54:38 itself would have um spiked band between
00:54:41 its tusks which it could use to sweep
00:54:45 enemies before it a good a good movie
00:54:48 example is the third L of the Rings
00:54:51 right is
00:54:54 yeah
00:54:56 exactly the way that the Greeks and the
00:54:59 carthaginians and uh etc etc would you
00:55:02 have Ed
00:55:05 them uh I think another thing to bring
00:55:07 out is
00:55:09 how um the mystery religions rely on
00:55:12 Greek in Egypt and here is um the
00:55:16 greatest General after Alexandra going
00:55:20 into Egypt and this
00:55:21 merging uh Egypt and Greek right
00:55:25 right well basically they turned Egypt
00:55:28 into a tributary Province for a time
00:55:31 right but there were also then the
00:55:33 trading of the ideas back and forth also
00:55:36 well yes yes um well the fact that Tommy
00:55:40 himself was a
00:55:42 Greek who became king of Egypt true last
00:55:46 line of pharaohs for the
00:55:51 toies uh you want uh read 19 Ben
00:55:58 um thus they got okay or did I skip one
00:56:02 you skipped oh sorry so read 18 sorry
00:56:05 about that made war against toy king of
00:56:07 Egypt but toy was afraid of him and fled
00:56:11 and many were wounded and many were
00:56:13 wounded to
00:56:17 death I think that’s self-explanatory
00:56:20 Charles you want to read
00:56:23 19 yes yes yes th they got the strong
00:56:28 cities in the land of Egypt and he took
00:56:31 the spoils there
00:56:33 full
00:56:36 okay uh Zach you want to read
00:56:41 20 and after that Antiochus had SP in
00:56:45 Egypt he returned again in 100 4 third
00:56:50 year and went up against Israel and
00:56:53 Jerusalem with a great
00:56:59 multitude yeah so we’re seeing history
00:57:03 we’re seeing the prophecy in Daniel 8
00:57:07 unfolding yeah yeah where they’re going
00:57:10 to oh what was the pleasant land right
00:57:14 we’re going against he’s going against
00:57:15 the pleasant land yeah um let’s see
00:57:20 Christie you want to
00:57:22 read 20 or yeah 20
00:57:26 right1 oh 21 sorry uh read 21
00:57:31 Christie and entered proudly into the
00:57:33 sanctuary and took away the golden Altar
00:57:37 and the Candlestick of light and all the
00:57:39 vessels
00:57:40 thereof the go ahead the Candlestick of
00:57:44 light represents the stars of the
00:57:45 heavens that he throws down in Daniel
00:57:51 8 so I also think and this is where I’m
00:57:54 kind of because I haven’t really studied
00:57:56 this part of of course I haven’t really
00:57:58 studied mccabes at all but this is
00:58:00 starting to lead into the Abominations
00:58:02 and
00:58:03 desolations and taking away the um which
00:58:08 was a requirement back then the daily uh
00:58:11 performance and ordinances that we know
00:58:13 as law of Moses the two daily Lambs
00:58:16 primarily anyways right but you know the
00:58:19 facts of the matter are given that
00:58:20 Israel was already in full violation of
00:58:22 the law the daily the performance of The
00:58:25 Daily ordinances of the law of Moses was
00:58:28 a joke uh I would agree with that but
00:58:31 they were still doing it until uh it was
00:58:34 taken away from them um as in mosiah 13
00:58:38 brings out that they thought those
00:58:41 ordinances would save them right
00:58:45 right where abinadi was uh
00:58:49 telling uh King Noah and his Wicked
00:58:52 priests that that that didn’t do that
00:58:55 right so yeah they don’t the as it
00:58:59 states in
00:59:01 um as it states in
00:59:04 John chapter 1 verse
00:59:08 18 um that law was administered to
00:59:15 death yes it was a carnal one and that
00:59:17 was done away at Yesa was cross but
00:59:21 anyways uh I I do also wonder if the
00:59:24 cand stick of light is points to the
00:59:30 manora so um let’s see uh Kesley you
00:59:35 want to read verse
00:59:38 22
00:59:41 okay um and the table of the shoe bread
00:59:46 and the pouring vessels and the vials
00:59:48 and the sensors of gold and the veil and
00:59:52 the crown and the golden ornaments that
00:59:55 were before the temple all which he
00:59:57 pulled off so this is talking about
01:00:00 things in the Holy
01:00:03 place um so that’s the place where the
01:00:05 ironic priests went uh to on a regular
01:00:09 basis not the holy of holies where the
01:00:12 Arc of the Covenant was
01:00:15 right which to me gives a little more
01:00:18 Credence that the Candlestick is the
01:00:20 manora because that’s the same location
01:00:22 that the manora is located right
01:00:28 right um all right so let’s see Zach you
01:00:33 want to read we just did 22 so you to do
01:00:37 23
01:00:42 y you took also the silver and the gold
01:00:45 and the precious vessels also you took
01:00:49 the Hidden Treasures which you
01:00:52 found so inside the temple
01:00:55 um there was a lot of silver and gold uh
01:00:59 like the
01:01:01 Candlestick uh was out of gold uh and
01:01:04 many other things um a gold out of
01:01:07 silver um and then on the side of the
01:01:11 temple were the priests
01:01:15 um quarters I think um I may remember
01:01:19 the names wrong but where they stored
01:01:21 things uh such as the silver trumpets
01:01:24 and things of that nature were called at
01:01:26 other times also yeah yeah so he utterly
01:01:29 despoils the temple yeah yeah so they
01:01:32 basically just took everything is kind
01:01:34 of what it’s bringing out or anything of
01:01:37 value right worldly value anything that
01:01:40 could be sold for anything that could be
01:01:42 sold yeah yeah for money um so let’s
01:01:49 see uh Christie you want to read uh 24
01:01:58 and when he had taken all way he went
01:02:02 into his own land having made a great
01:02:04 Massacre and spoken very
01:02:07 proudly yeah so this General was not a
01:02:10 nice guy here right he went around
01:02:14 conquering and destroying things and uh
01:02:17 was bragging about
01:02:21 it uh of course uh what
01:02:25 what humans don’t go around bragging
01:02:27 about the things that they do today
01:02:29 especially when that such bragging makes
01:02:32 it easier for them to keep doing it
01:02:36 right um I mean even poker games it’s uh
01:02:40 there’s a big mind game in poker games
01:02:42 and if you can get in someone’s head it
01:02:44 makes it easier for you to win them so I
01:02:48 think that’s partly why he went around
01:02:50 speaking very proudly it’s just so that
01:02:52 way other countes would submit rather
01:02:56 than fight against them to make it
01:02:58 easier for himself
01:03:03 right um let’s
01:03:06 see Zach you want read
01:03:11 25 therefore therefore there was great
01:03:14 warning in Israel in every place where
01:03:17 they
01:03:19 were so this kind of shows how he took
01:03:21 over the whole country right not just
01:03:24 part of it but all of it and that he was
01:03:27 causing wickedness
01:03:30 everywhere uh and including making it so
01:03:33 they couldn’t
01:03:35 um uh keep resemblance of Torah because
01:03:39 they weren’t the best at keeping Torah
01:03:40 here okay but there are specific things
01:03:43 that they still did
01:03:46 do uh more as a token aspect such as
01:03:51 circumcision right that he was not
01:03:53 allowing people that are
01:03:55 circumcise as I think even later in the
01:03:58 text brings that out specifically if I
01:04:00 remember correctly
01:04:03 right um but because of
01:04:06 this uh although Israel wasn’t really
01:04:10 trying to keep the law they’re mourning
01:04:12 because even the little res resemblance
01:04:15 of the law that they somewhat kept they
01:04:18 couldn’t keep now as in even kosher laws
01:04:21 right in fact even later here it brings
01:04:25 out how uh he was forcing them to eat
01:04:27 pig if I remember correctly right well
01:04:31 he was sacrifice and he was sacrificing
01:04:33 pigs in the sanctuary correct which goes
01:04:36 along with the abomination of desolation
01:04:39 right yeah that make the Abomination
01:04:42 that maketh desolate is actually okay so
01:04:45 I’m remembering the phrase a little
01:04:47 wrong uh you want to read verse 26 Ben
01:04:51 so that the princes and Elders mourned
01:04:53 The Virgins and young men were made
01:04:55 feeble and the beauty of women was
01:04:59 changed in other words the light left
01:05:03 them yeah and so I I I won’t say who but
01:05:08 I will say um I recently met someone in
01:05:13 person um who I’ve seen in videos and I
01:05:17 will say that their
01:05:20 countenance has changed for the negative
01:05:24 now I do understand countenance is kind
01:05:26 of
01:05:27 a figurative or
01:05:30 subjective uh thing right but for me
01:05:34 this guy’s countenance has gone negative
01:05:38 which makes sense of who he used to
01:05:42 follow and has continued
01:05:45 on uh the false Traditions he learned
01:05:47 from that person
01:05:50 so uh and I would say that’s along the
01:05:52 same lines there
01:05:58 right um so uh let’s see Zack you want
01:06:03 to read
01:06:07 27 every bridegroom took up
01:06:11 limitation she that s the marriage
01:06:13 chamber was in
01:06:20 heaviness uh so um I and I’m not exactly
01:06:26 sure what this goes to uh I have a
01:06:29 thought unless Ben knows exactly what
01:06:30 it’s going well I you know there’s
01:06:36 um there is the
01:06:41 uh Israel was supposed to be the Bride
01:06:44 of he it was supposed to be the bride to
01:06:48 yeh um she was she that sat in the
01:06:51 marriage
01:06:53 chamber they were in
01:06:55 heaviness also
01:06:59 uh of course they’re also going to
01:07:04 assign that lamentation to Yahweh as
01:07:07 well because it makes them feel better
01:07:10 about
01:07:13 themselves uh so we have here already
01:07:16 some
01:07:18 coloring because the people who wrote
01:07:20 this were all so
01:07:22 wicked sure so one thing that I wonder
01:07:27 in in London there was a period of time
01:07:30 when the
01:07:31 Kings took the right of the marriage
01:07:38 bed oh is that what it’s called yes
01:07:41 first night the ruler could uh walk into
01:07:45 any marriage and take the bride on the
01:07:48 first night of her Union with that right
01:07:51 I I wonder if that’s referring to
01:07:54 something like that but this is where I
01:07:56 don’t actually know I do not believe
01:07:59 that such a thing was happening at that
01:08:02 time it I think there but it’s but any
01:08:06 but it is possible I mean even the
01:08:07 Greeks have their own variations on
01:08:09 those kinds of ideas uh priman was a
01:08:13 Roman
01:08:15 concept oh ran I thought it was London
01:08:19 but anyway
01:08:21 London it had to come from somewhere
01:08:24 right well right it’s started it anyways
01:08:28 who conquered
01:08:29 Britain
01:08:31 Rome yeah Rome it can’t the IDE when a
01:08:38 uh we’ll just say when the name of a
01:08:41 practice is
01:08:44 Latin it came from Rome I know I makes
01:08:48 sense I I didn’t I didn’t remember the
01:08:50 name of the practice I just don’t the
01:08:52 practice so yeah the name of the
01:08:54 practice was Prim and that is a Latin
01:08:57 that is that is a Latin name comes from
01:09:01 Rome um so did Rome regardless of what
01:09:05 regardless of what everybody wants to
01:09:07 say Rome did not borrow all of their um
01:09:10 spiritual uh all of
01:09:14 their all of their all of their
01:09:17 spirituality from
01:09:18 Greece okay so you don’t think that came
01:09:21 from Greece it could I think there I
01:09:24 think there were some ideas that were
01:09:25 similar to that in Greece but I don’t
01:09:27 know that they went that far oh okay so
01:09:30 maybe I’m seeing more in verse 27 than
01:09:33 actually there then I I I don’t know I I
01:09:36 I all I can say is that I don’t know
01:09:38 that they actually went that far okay
01:09:40 that’s all I’m saying but it’s possible
01:09:43 that it
01:09:44 could it’s possible that they that there
01:09:47 something like that could have been
01:09:48 happening okay so it’s one of those
01:09:50 things that could go either way um
01:09:53 because it is something that is
01:09:54 connected to paganism and also the
01:10:00 uh the pro the U proliferation of
01:10:04 certain Bloodlines etc
01:10:07 etc sure sure and another we don’t have
01:10:10 to go any further on that no sure sure
01:10:12 oh and then another thing it goes along
01:10:14 with is a curse in Deuteronomy 28
01:10:17 29 yes that if you don’t keep the law
01:10:21 someone will take your bride and be with
01:10:23 her
01:10:24 right right that is that’s that this is
01:10:28 the word of the Lord being fulfilled
01:10:30 right right and but they weren’t keeping
01:10:34 the law as Yahweh uh told them to
01:10:38 so that’s another reason or
01:10:40 justifications for possibly seeing that
01:10:43 in verse 27 is the curses in
01:10:46 Deuteronomy 27 and 28 right or is it 28
01:10:50 and 29 anyways my memory is a little
01:10:53 fake right
01:10:54 28 29 it’s 28 29 28 29 but there is the
01:10:58 curse in there it’s probably in chapter
01:11:00 28 that if you don’t keep the law
01:11:03 someone will take your wife and lay with
01:11:06 her right right and they definitely were
01:11:09 not keeping the law here so it’s not too
01:11:12 much a stretch to think that curse was
01:11:15 actually happening so anyways and
01:11:18 interesting verse
01:11:21 28 is interesting you want to read it
01:11:24 since you’re bringing land also was
01:11:25 moved for the inhabitants thereof and
01:11:28 all the house of Jacob was covered with
01:11:32 confusion the land also was moved this
01:11:35 is um again another reference to the
01:11:38 curses in D
01:11:41 theonomy
01:11:46 2829 yeah where they they lost their
01:11:48 land is basically what it’s saying
01:11:52 right
01:11:54 so um let’s see Kesley you want to read
01:11:57 um
01:12:04 29 okay sorry I was muted okay 29 let’s
01:12:08 see and after two years fully expired
01:12:12 the king sent his chief collector of
01:12:14 tribute unto the cities of Judah who
01:12:17 came unto Jerusalem with a great
01:12:22 multitude so I would say that the Greeks
01:12:25 had a center in Jerusalem right that
01:12:29 that the Hebrews or Israel had to go
01:12:33 give tribute unto
01:12:36 right or basically taxes in today’s
01:12:40 terms
01:12:42 yep and here we go ver Let’s uh who
01:12:45 who’s going to read verse
01:12:47 30 uh Christie are you willing
01:12:52 to
01:12:54 and spake Peaceable words unto them but
01:12:57 all was deceit for when they had given
01:12:59 him Credence he fell suddenly upon the
01:13:02 city and smoted it very sore and and
01:13:05 destroyed much people of
01:13:08 Israel so the fact that they were lying
01:13:10 about what’s going on and saying they
01:13:12 love them even though they hate them
01:13:14 shows that they feared and they knew
01:13:17 they couldn’t overpower him because they
01:13:20 had no strength of Yahweh with them no
01:13:22 the person spoke Peaceable words unto
01:13:26 Judah oh read that yeah the tax
01:13:30 collector spoke Peaceable words unto
01:13:32 Judah but all deceit for when Judah gave
01:13:35 him cred
01:13:36 Credence he fell upon the city and and
01:13:39 sacked
01:13:40 it oh the tax collectors oh okay tax
01:13:44 collector came with a great multitude a
01:13:47 big
01:13:51 army Okay so even though they paid their
01:13:54 taxes the they still told the Army to
01:13:58 destroy them right
01:14:02 yep um which I is happening even today
01:14:06 so we’ll just leave it at that right
01:14:09 we’re giving them what they want but at
01:14:11 the same time they’re destroying us
01:14:14 right um which actually uh kind of goes
01:14:18 along with uh multiple fulfillments of
01:14:21 prophecies I’ll just leave at that right
01:14:24 yep exactly yeah hence as we talked
01:14:27 about
01:14:28 earlier uh we’re doomed to see history
01:14:32 to keep repeating because people don’t
01:14:34 learn the lessons
01:14:37 right yep uh Zack you want to read
01:14:43 31 when and and when you taken the
01:14:47 spoils of the city you set it on fire
01:14:51 and pulled down the houses and walls
01:14:53 thereof on every
01:14:55 side so this is that after the tax
01:14:58 collector got what he wanted he
01:15:00 destroyed them right right after he got
01:15:03 everything that he could get out of the
01:15:04 city he then lights it on
01:15:09 fire right and this kind of reminds me
01:15:12 of um I don’t remember who said it but
01:15:15 someone said something along the lines
01:15:17 that uh a tranist will set his a city on
01:15:22 fire or his in fire just so that way he
01:15:25 can rule it himself instead of somebody
01:15:27 else right yeah a
01:15:29 tyrant
01:15:31 yeah uh and that because tyrants just
01:15:33 want control they don’t actually want
01:15:35 progress and health and prosperity for
01:15:38 the
01:15:40 people um let’s see Kesley you want to
01:15:43 read
01:15:52 32
01:15:54 Kesley are you there or are you falling
01:16:01 asleep okay M
01:16:03 did okay I’m here sorry I don’t know
01:16:06 what happened to my I don’t know what
01:16:08 happened on my screen I’m confused there
01:16:10 we go I’m back up sorry oh okay no
01:16:13 that’s fine okay um what number
01:16:17 302 true okay but the women and children
01:16:21 took they captive and possessed the
01:16:24 cattle okay so when they took the women
01:16:26 and children captive they weren’t just
01:16:28 taking them captive to hold the prisoner
01:16:29 of war
01:16:31 camp no they were they were selling them
01:16:33 as
01:16:34 slaves yeah and uh among other things um
01:16:40 I’ll just leave it that uh 33 Zach you
01:16:44 willing to read that
01:16:47 one and builded they the city of David
01:16:51 with a great and strong wall and with
01:16:54 Mighty towers made it a stronghold for
01:16:57 them so I believe this is saying that
01:17:00 the wicked people took over the city of
01:17:02 David right and then made it uh Stronger
01:17:06 for
01:17:08 themselves 34 I’ll read and they put
01:17:13 therein a sinful Nation wicked men and
01:17:16 fortified themselves
01:17:19 therein um I I think that’s just I think
01:17:22 that’s kind of clear right
01:17:25 yep yep that
01:17:27 is um Ben you want to read 35 and they
01:17:31 stored it also with armor and victuals
01:17:34 and when they had gathered together The
01:17:36 Spoils of Jerusalem they laid them up
01:17:38 there so that they so they became a sore
01:17:43 snare so they took everything that they
01:17:45 stole from everybody and put it into the
01:17:48 city of David
01:17:52 right and and here I think they’re
01:17:54 actually talking about the actual uh
01:17:58 section of the city now commonly
01:18:00 referred to as the city of David in
01:18:02 other
01:18:05 words where the temple was right right
01:18:08 and I think 33 kind of bears that out
01:18:11 but the city of David was in Jerusalem
01:18:13 right yeah it was a part of Jerusalem
01:18:17 right and this just kind of gets into an
01:18:19 issue where sometimes uh even in the New
01:18:23 Testament there’s examples of this where
01:18:24 they’ll say the big city or what maybe
01:18:28 today we’ll call the county right where
01:18:32 they really mean the city right right
01:18:36 it’s a it’s a common thing even back
01:18:38 then so right anyways so 36 maybe I’ll
01:18:44 read for it was a place to lie in way
01:18:47 against the sanctuary aka the temple has
01:18:51 been brought out and an
01:18:53 evil adversity to
01:18:57 Israel um so I think
01:19:01 we’re um even today there’s this
01:19:06 um High sanc feeling towards the temple
01:19:11 right and so here they
01:19:12 are
01:19:14 um what’s the word I’m want to say
01:19:18 they’re defiling the temple right so and
01:19:23 here’s how they’re defiling it oh okay
01:19:26 so let me just scroll up and you want to
01:19:28 read 37 as when I get it up to a nice
01:19:30 spot right
01:19:32 there thus they shed innocent blood on
01:19:36 every side of the sanctuary and defiled
01:19:41 it they found people who were keeping
01:19:43 the law and they killed them on every
01:19:47 side of the
01:19:49 sanctuary yeah um which um killing of
01:19:54 innocent blood is uh like SIN number one
01:19:59 almost right so
01:20:01 yeah um that’s that’s a pretty big deal
01:20:05 it’s one thing to shed the blood of
01:20:07 wicked men right right it’s quite
01:20:11 another to do it of innocent blood where
01:20:14 the um the first commandment is actually
01:20:17 the Commandment of Thou shalt not murder
01:20:20 or Thou shalt not shed innocent blood
01:20:24 or not the first commandment the no I
01:20:26 think you mean the fifth yeah yeah the
01:20:28 fifth yeah well it’s the first one
01:20:31 dealing with men right right the or
01:20:34 sixth commandment oh yeah yeah the sixth
01:20:36 sorry yeah you’re right the sixth I
01:20:38 gotta it reads it comes to us in the
01:20:41 King James English as Thou shalt not
01:20:43 kill which is a bad translation because
01:20:46 the Hebrew word means
01:20:48 basically it’s it means murder there’s a
01:20:51 different word in Hebrew for kill and
01:20:53 there’s a different word in Hebrew for
01:20:55 Mur it means it means murder with the
01:20:58 connotation of the shedding of innocent
01:21:01 blood right um which is what they did
01:21:05 here now even people today cringe at
01:21:11 people killing people who had nothing to
01:21:14 deal with the war or that had not done
01:21:19 anything wrong right um where people
01:21:24 will can understand killing people who
01:21:27 are evil or have done some bad things
01:21:30 well here’s the thing you the yeah
01:21:33 people cringe at the
01:21:38 thought most people who cringe at the
01:21:40 thought have never been in a war
01:21:46 themselves um because when you’re in the
01:21:49 middle of a war when you’re in the
01:21:50 middle of a war you don’t know who’s
01:21:52 inoc you don’t know who’s
01:21:56 guilty what you do
01:21:58 know is that that next person could be
01:22:01 the person who could
01:22:03 be that person who’s smiling at you now
01:22:05 could be the person who kills you well I
01:22:08 think there’s a place for both um just
01:22:12 um but
01:22:14 anyways I’m not I’m not saying that it’s
01:22:16 right to shed innocent blood but I’m
01:22:18 saying that war has a tendency to inure
01:22:23 that cringe uh I I can understand that
01:22:27 but I do think there are times where the
01:22:30 soldiers know that they’re going
01:22:32 somewhere that is basically innocent
01:22:35 blood but they do it anyways because
01:22:37 they’re following orders but right and
01:22:41 that’s and that’s not and by the way
01:22:44 that’s not a viable excuse according to
01:22:46 Torah oh I I completely agree um just
01:22:50 because your leader told you to do it
01:22:52 doesn’t um justify you in the eyes of
01:22:56 Yahweh when it comes to Judgment Day we
01:22:59 as in Peter’s words in the book of Acts
01:23:03 we should follow Yahweh over men right
01:23:07 well just like it because um but this
01:23:11 not only does it not absolve
01:23:14 you uh in the eyes of
01:23:19 Y but the reason why so many people from
01:23:22 the military come back with
01:23:24 post-traumatic stress disorder is
01:23:26 because they followed
01:23:29 orders yes and orders to the point where
01:23:33 they did something that they knew was
01:23:36 evil
01:23:39 yep um and they feel bad about it
01:23:44 yep and everybody has a different way of
01:23:47 dealing with that yeah um so maybe just
01:23:52 maybe I’ll Sidetrack just a second
01:23:56 um to go along to give some support for
01:24:00 that from the
01:24:04 [Music]
01:24:08 scriptures I have a few on this but um
01:24:14 this one’s
01:24:16 oh I do think I have the right
01:24:19 one no let’s see oh this one so here
01:24:22 Moroni
01:24:24 10:22 and if you have no hope you must
01:24:27 be in Despair and despair cometh because
01:24:31 of iniquity now I’ve never had
01:24:35 PTSD but I I would say that’s despair
01:24:39 from the things that I know about and
01:24:41 I’ve heard about it okay and according
01:24:45 to yahweh’s word it happens because of
01:24:49 iniquity hence they did they follow an
01:24:52 order of something that they knew was
01:24:55 wrong sin iniquity right so and some
01:25:00 people it hardens to the point where
01:25:02 they are wicked monstrous beasts and
01:25:06 some people it just
01:25:09 breaks yes uh and I would suggest don’t
01:25:13 take a chance either way um just
01:25:16 military yeah oh even better don’t join
01:25:19 the military don’t join the mil
01:25:23 military because all the military is is
01:25:26 an
01:25:28 organization it’s a it’s it’s a bunch of
01:25:30 Jack boot
01:25:32 thugs
01:25:35 yeah we destroy as we were taught in Air
01:25:38 Force basic training we D we we kill
01:25:43 people and Destroy things that that uh
01:25:46 threaten our way of
01:25:50 life yeah and and here’s a a a big one
01:25:54 um I I’ll read it so uh there’s a lot of
01:25:58 various uh verses in the scriptures
01:26:00 about war but here’s one I definitely
01:26:03 think relates to how at least the USA
01:26:06 army does things which is wrong and it
01:26:10 The quick summary is that we are only to
01:26:12 defend our our own land so 3 Nei
01:26:19 320 uh through I think 21 now the people
01:26:24 said unto gide Andi pray unto Yahweh and
01:26:28 let us go upon the mountains and in the
01:26:31 wilderness that we may fall upon the
01:26:34 robbers who were these were the bad guys
01:26:37 right uh and Destroy them in their own
01:26:42 lands but Gideon said no but Gideon
01:26:46 saith unto them Yahweh forbid as in
01:26:50 Torah says don’t do that
01:26:53 that for if we should go up against them
01:26:58 Yahweh would deliver us into their hands
01:27:02 therefore we will prepare ourselves in
01:27:04 the center of our lands hence defend on
01:27:08 our own land and We Shall Gather in all
01:27:12 our armies together and we will not go
01:27:15 against them we will not do
01:27:20 offense we only do defense
01:27:22 but we will wait till they shall come
01:27:25 against us
01:27:27 defense therefore Yahweh liveth and if
01:27:30 we do this he will deliver them into our
01:27:37 hands uh we are not to go
01:27:41 out to protect ourselves of what we
01:27:44 might think someone might do against us
01:27:46 we are only to
01:27:48 defend and defend on our own land
01:27:52 yes now the the
01:27:55 thing yeah the when you consider that
01:27:59 the United States is just the bully arm
01:28:01 of the uh fourth
01:28:03 Kingdom
01:28:07 yeah that explains a great deal of what
01:28:10 our military does yep and if you don’t
01:28:14 think we’re Rome go look at
01:28:16 the uh Rome’s uh mascot was in eagal
01:28:21 Rome Rome’s coins had Engle and their
01:28:24 presidents on it among other we we are
01:28:27 Rome and we’re following the same
01:28:29 pattern don’t kid
01:28:31 yourself yeah we’re the yeah Rome Rome
01:28:36 never really
01:28:37 fell it it just morphed and went other
01:28:41 places but
01:28:43 anys I tried telling my Bishop’s Wife
01:28:46 that she didn’t like hearing that well
01:28:49 of course not because I in the
01:28:52 restoration there is a a big tendency to
01:28:56 worship the USA and the Constitution
01:28:59 right yeah um and um so there’s a DNC
01:29:04 section that Yahweh states that he
01:29:07 suffered the Constitution right you
01:29:11 don’t suffer something that you want you
01:29:15 suffer something to happen when it’ll
01:29:18 serve your
01:29:20 purposes uh despite you know not really
01:29:22 liking it right
01:29:25 yeah uh in fact we could go look at
01:29:27 those uh various sections real quick if
01:29:30 you want
01:29:33 um let’s see I
01:29:35 have I have notes on that I have notes
01:29:38 on a lot of stuff don’t
01:29:42 I um oops uh it’s this one okay yeah I
01:29:46 do believe the USA is going to fall but
01:29:49 uh that’s not the one we want but so
01:29:51 here’s C
01:29:55 10177 uh you want to read that one
01:29:57 Kesley since she kind of brought it up
01:30:00 sure according to the laws and
01:30:02 Constitution of the people which I have
01:30:04 suffered to be established and should be
01:30:07 maintained for the rights and protection
01:30:10 of All Flesh according to just and holy
01:30:13 principles you want to read
01:30:16 80 yeah and for this purpose have I
01:30:19 established the constitution of this
01:30:21 land by the of wise men wise men is not
01:30:24 a good thing whom I raised up unto this
01:30:27 very purpose and redeemed The Land by
01:30:30 the shedding of blood now here’s an
01:30:33 interesting thing with verse
01:30:36 77
01:30:39 um he suffered the he suffered the
01:30:42 Constitution to be established number
01:30:45 one
01:30:47 um
01:30:48 and the reason was the reason was for
01:30:51 Law and
01:30:54 Order protection of All
01:30:57 Flesh and we are to obey we are to uh
01:31:01 the
01:31:02 Constitution the the uh Constitution is
01:31:06 to be maintained according to that which
01:31:09 is to just and holy
01:31:11 principles holy as in his principles
01:31:15 right right but not the thing is is
01:31:18 there was a process by which we could
01:31:21 have turned the Constitution into a good
01:31:24 thing well or I I it used it for a good
01:31:28 thing I think as a better way of say
01:31:30 yeah there’s a process by which we could
01:31:32 have used it for a good thing but we
01:31:35 didn’t No in fact uh the Constitution is
01:31:39 being
01:31:40 shredded as we speak right but and it
01:31:45 has been for a while yeah but that’s
01:31:47 because we didn’t use it to work a good
01:31:50 thing well
01:31:53 um it could and it could have served
01:31:55 that purpose but it didn’t uh because
01:31:58 every amendment that we’ve made to it
01:32:00 since has been to take from people their
01:32:04 rights their
01:32:06 freedoms so I wouldn’t say every
01:32:09 Amendment but there are some amendments
01:32:11 that go along those lines so technically
01:32:14 even the one that freed the slaves
01:32:16 actually didn’t really free the slaves
01:32:19 it just uh extended them rights extended
01:32:24 them extended them
01:32:26 privileges where everybody where where
01:32:29 the white people had rights uh sure sure
01:32:31 but the what if I remember right the
01:32:34 Second Amendment the right to bear arms
01:32:36 I would say that was a good one and that
01:32:38 one that’s a good one uh the first
01:32:40 amendment is a good one yeah um but
01:32:44 every other Amendment since then has
01:32:46 been to has been with the has been with
01:32:49 the mindset to enslave
01:32:52 Humanity let enslave the American
01:32:55 populace
01:32:57 um by setting the precedent that some of
01:33:00 our citizens only enjoyed privileges
01:33:03 rather than
01:33:04 rights therefore when the New Deal came
01:33:08 in with the uh with Social
01:33:13 Security nobody complained at all when
01:33:15 all of our rights became
01:33:19 privileges because the pr it already
01:33:22 been said right and so um I do believe
01:33:27 in the
01:33:28 Millennium uh we will be ruled by what
01:33:31 is described in mosiah 29 which is
01:33:35 basically Torah uh and I have a post
01:33:39 that goes along with that but also I
01:33:41 think in support of mosiah
01:33:44 29 um is Dean C
01:33:49 105 okay and Dean 105 brings out and
01:33:53 I’ll just read it the kingdoms of this
01:33:55 world and that that that’s everywhere
01:33:58 not just the USA right but that includes
01:34:01 the
01:34:02 USA may be constrained to acknowledge
01:34:05 that the kingdom of Zion is the very de
01:34:09 the kingdom of
01:34:11 Elohim and even the
01:34:15 Messiah therefore let us let us the
01:34:19 world become subject
01:34:22 unto Zion’s laws which is Torah
01:34:29 okay and and if the US did not include
01:34:33 the USA where this Revelation was given
01:34:36 why is it using us instead
01:34:38 of theirs or they right this us includes
01:34:44 the
01:34:46 USA yeah the uh well the thing
01:34:49 is yeah and so so the point that I’m
01:34:52 making is that really the Constitution
01:34:55 was dead as of the signing into law of
01:34:58 the new
01:35:00 deal yeah there’s been a multiple
01:35:03 problems throughout there’s not a single
01:35:05 person on this Zoom call who
01:35:09 knows who knows what it was like when
01:35:12 the Constitution was alive oh no no yeah
01:35:15 and even the the I’m trying to remember
01:35:19 the monster of jeo island has caused
01:35:21 lots of problems also
01:35:24 right um among other things um but not
01:35:29 to S track much on that stuff but even
01:35:32 uh DNC
01:35:34 134 uh pretty much equates the other
01:35:37 governments around the world as in the
01:35:40 same um category as the USA Constitution
01:35:46 right yeah um and I I don’t know if we
01:35:49 want to sidetracking that much more
01:35:52 because we are trying to do macbes but
01:35:54 if you read
01:35:55 that um it it brings out human law a law
01:36:01 and the Divine laws and how they’re
01:36:02 different and the Constitution has even
01:36:05 brought out how it was you know done by
01:36:07 the hands of wise men as in human law
01:36:11 and not Divine Law right yeah and the
01:36:16 these wise
01:36:18 men many of them were Jesuits yeah and
01:36:22 Masons who are Pawns of the Jesuits
01:36:25 right yeah yeah or Masons Jesuit pawns
01:36:31 yeah um and and there’s a lot of things
01:36:35 that are borrowed in the
01:36:37 Constitution and the uh Declaration of
01:36:41 Independence that comes from Masonic
01:36:43 Jesuit literature which is not a good
01:36:46 thing people okay well and actually
01:36:50 the
01:36:51 the uh Prime uh a lot of the uh the U
01:36:57 American contitution
01:37:00 draws a lot of its uh inspiration not
01:37:04 just from Masonic literature but also
01:37:07 from um the constitution of the Old
01:37:11 Republic of Rome yep and also it has
01:37:15 Greek uh phosy in it also which is not
01:37:19 good but anyways
01:37:22 um so think go ahead I was like so
01:37:27 yeah it’s not the god send that a lot of
01:37:30 people try to make it out to be all
01:37:32 right so on that cheerful note let’s get
01:37:34 back to macbes yeah yeah I think that’s
01:37:36 enough on that little Sidetrack sorry
01:37:39 guys anyways it was H it came up so it
01:37:41 was important to kind of talk about it
01:37:43 right yep so I I actually forget what
01:37:48 verse we’re on But Here let let me pause
01:37:50 for blood on every side of the sanctuary
01:37:53 and defiled it verse 30 which verse
01:37:57 verse 37 okay but uh let let’s pause for
01:38:00 just one second though okay
Seeking YHWH 