Scripture Study 2024-02-10 Ezra’s Eagle

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Expounding 2 Esdras 11 Ezra’s Eagle. D&C LDS 87 about the coming war. First to fall is USA. Second to fall is Briton. Roaring Lions and Zion.

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Notes:

  • 01 – Roman Republic ~ 500 years
  • 02 – Roman Empire 27 BC – 1453 AD = 1480 * 1/2 = 740
  • 03 – The Merovingian Kingdom of Francia
  • 04 – The Holy Roman Empire with Charlemagne
    • (1) Burgundia
    • (2) Francia
    • (3) German Holy Roman Empire
  • 05 – Crusaders States [Knights Templar]
  • 06 – Spain
  • 07 – France Bourbon
  • 08 – England / Great Briton
  • Colonial Fervor, European Colonialism:
    • (4) Dutch
    • (5) Portugal
    • (6) Italy
    • (7) Revolutionary France with Napolean
  • 09 – Islam Califate
  • 10 – Russa
  • 11 – USA
  • 12 – UN
  • USA & UN:
    • (8) Nato

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00:00:02 now let me click on this button here so
00:00:04 that I don’t get kicked off while I’m in
00:00:05 the middle of talking let’s see
00:00:09 um I have long wanted to
00:00:13 speak on Ezra’s Eagle especially because
00:00:19 of all of
00:00:20 the because like everybody else I was
00:00:24 first deceived by it so there there’s a
00:00:27 lot of false interpretations out there
00:00:29 that as we go through we’ll we’ll show
00:00:33 how um the text invalidates a lot of
00:00:37 interpretations that are out there yeah
00:00:39 I I was deceived but BEC and when I and
00:00:44 from the moment that I’ve that I began
00:00:46 to see through my
00:00:48 deception
00:00:50 um I they I wanted to start I wanted to
00:00:55 talk about the I’ve been wanting to talk
00:00:57 about this but I haven’t been I haven’t
00:01:00 necessarily been prepared to do so until
00:01:04 uh right around
00:01:05 now um yes and so with the way the the
00:01:10 way that I want to approach this is kind
00:01:12 of read through the verses get the get
00:01:16 the flavor of the
00:01:18 text um and then go
00:01:22 through uh incorrect incorrect
00:01:25 interpretations and that and correct it
00:01:28 to the correct it to a more correct
00:01:31 interpretation which is uh the reason I
00:01:35 say more correct is because even I am
00:01:37 not completely settled on all of the on
00:01:40 all that all of these PE all of
00:01:43 these on the on the identity of every
00:01:47 single one of these feathers but I’m
00:01:49 pretty
00:01:51 sure right now the feathers and what we
00:01:54 have them as the um the nations are our
00:02:00 best estimation right now but they could
00:02:03 use if someone has something
00:02:05 better uh we’re completely opening to
00:02:07 hearing it um but so far this does look
00:02:10 pretty good including the contrary
00:02:13 portion or in verse three that they G is
00:02:16 it three that they grew out out of other
00:02:19 feathers right this grew out is a an
00:02:23 important portion there okay which is
00:02:25 not being considered in other
00:02:28 interpretations right and so this is so
00:02:31 we’re gonna without further
00:02:34 Ado because I like doing things without
00:02:36 further Ado we’re gonna go into the
00:02:39 text wait a minute that’s a French
00:02:42 word I know a is a French word yeah ad
00:02:48 is the French word ad do is is uh
00:02:52 Shakespearean
00:02:53 English yeah anyway I’m just heckling it
00:02:56 and also just kind of uh it’s in the
00:02:58 Book of Mormon too so any that’s that’s
00:03:02 Adu anyway Adu is a French word it means
00:03:06 farewell uh anyways yeah and now that
00:03:10 we’ve carried the farewell to a fair the
00:03:16 [Laughter]
00:03:20 well Josh do you want to read verse one
00:03:23 you want to get a started on the ver on
00:03:25 the text sure I can do that uh then
00:03:30 verse one then saw I a dream and behold
00:03:36 there came up from the sea an eagle
00:03:39 which had 12 feathered wings and three
00:03:43 heads okay so here we the eagle is a
00:03:48 symbol of
00:03:49 Rome yep um Rome Rome yes R in fact if
00:03:55 you go look on our quarters you’ll see
00:03:58 an eagle because we are still Rome in
00:04:01 fact even follows uh we’re an extension
00:04:04 of Rome we are an extension of Rome
00:04:06 through the secret combinations right
00:04:09 right um and it also follows the head
00:04:13 part on the opposite side follows the
00:04:15 Roman coin also okay so there came up
00:04:19 from the sea an eagle which had 12
00:04:20 feathered wings well one one thing I
00:04:22 would
00:04:23 say the sea that has to do with um in
00:04:29 Prophecy symbolism in The Scriptures see
00:04:31 one of the things to deal with that is
00:04:35 uh condensed groups of people yes yes
00:04:41 okay so Sharon do you want to read verse
00:04:45 two I don’t know if I can see it I’m on
00:04:48 my phone if you can’t see it if you
00:04:51 can’t see it just be honest with us so
00:04:53 we can move okay here we are we’re ra
00:04:55 we’re we’re building it up here there
00:04:58 okay and I saw and beheld she spread her
00:05:03 wings all over all the Earth and all the
00:05:07 Winds of the air blew on her and were
00:05:10 gathered together okay so and beh so she
00:05:15 so this Eagle spreads her wings over all
00:05:18 the Earth all the winds winds are uh all
00:05:24 winds are doctrines
00:05:27 uh winds are doctrines words
00:05:30 philosophies uh they they were gathered
00:05:34 together in her right and wings uh have
00:05:38 to do with
00:05:40 power um I would say that this was
00:05:42 fulfilled by Rome in their in their
00:05:45 uh as they made uh as they made
00:05:49 connections as they made trade
00:05:50 connections to China right um so this
00:05:55 primarily uh over the world in the
00:05:57 Hebrew context is the world World in
00:06:00 their sphere of yeah yeah because this
00:06:03 is done by a Hebrew this is going to be
00:06:05 the Hebrew Known World right but I would
00:06:09 also say it’s beyond that as in I just
00:06:12 already mentioned USA is Rome and so
00:06:17 Rome’s power is all over the world and
00:06:21 they’re taking their doctrines all over
00:06:23 the world in fact along those lines not
00:06:27 to get into controversies with US
00:06:29 Constitution but the US does push their
00:06:33 constitution all over the world um so
00:06:37 let’s pause for one second okay somebody
00:06:40 coming
00:06:45 yeah okay so so we we had just covered
00:06:49 the fact that the eagle of Rome has her
00:06:53 wings and her power spread all over the
00:06:55 Earth and this is what this is the
00:06:57 condition that we are in at this time
00:06:59 time and the doctrines which yeah it’s
00:07:03 interesting Rome didn’t really have any
00:07:06 doctrines of their own and they accepted
00:07:08 Greece’s doctrines which is
00:07:12 philosophy that uh is pushed all over
00:07:15 the world today still through Rome well
00:07:17 the interesting thing is is that Greek
00:07:19 philosophy actually has determined
00:07:22 largely the doctrines of Christianity
00:07:25 Islam and um and Jud ISM right and and
00:07:32 just their Greek thought helenistic
00:07:35 thought is very different than
00:07:38 Hebrew um Israel thought okay they’re
00:07:42 they’re very different um and
00:07:46 so but that is one way that this
00:07:50 Eagle uh has her breath doctrines all
00:07:54 over the place okay right right so all
00:07:58 right so verse
00:07:59 so um Charles you want to read verse
00:08:03 three yes I
00:08:06 can but the small over
00:08:10 here oh oh yeah over here on the right
00:08:15 on the left the left side of your
00:08:18 screen I’m seeing them but them make
00:08:22 them big uh yeah I can try to make it
00:08:25 bigger
00:08:26 yeah is that good
00:08:32 I can’t I can’t see them yeah if you
00:08:35 can’t see him that’s fine that’s fine
00:08:37 we’ll just call on somebody else okay
00:08:40 well I can do it real quick and I beheld
00:08:43 and came out
00:08:45 of I’m sorry and I beheld and out of her
00:08:48 feathers so the 12 feathers grew other
00:08:52 contrary feathers that they became
00:08:55 little feathers and small okay so
00:08:58 feathers here the feathers here
00:09:01 represent Nations as we’re going to see
00:09:04 right and one thing oh sorry further
00:09:07 down in the prophecy we’re going to see
00:09:08 that the feathers represent Nations um
00:09:11 and and the other thing that I do want
00:09:13 to bring out real quick is that there’s
00:09:15 a key word that
00:09:16 everybody loves to leave out grew these
00:09:21 smaller feathers grew out of their
00:09:25 bigger feathers in other words they were
00:09:28 caused by bigger they they came from
00:09:33 bigger feathers they U they grew out yes
00:09:37 and so this is this is what we’re
00:09:39 talking about here is stuff that grows
00:09:41 out countries that grow out of other
00:09:44 countries right presidents USA
00:09:47 presidents don’t grow out of other
00:09:50 presidents okay um they’re voted in well
00:09:55 I’ll say they’re voted in by the people
00:09:58 right so
00:10:00 um they’re hands selected by the secret
00:10:02 societies who then who then hold a
00:10:05 sherad so that we feel like we voted
00:10:08 them in yes I agree with that I wasn’t
00:10:11 GNA get into that but since you said it
00:10:13 I wholeheartedly agree with B
00:10:16 okay um so uh let’s see I will go ahead
00:10:23 and read verse four Zach you want to
00:10:25 read verse
00:10:27 four forgot you were there Zach you were
00:10:29 too
00:10:30 quiet I
00:10:32 do but her heads were at rest the head
00:10:36 in the Mist was greater than the other
00:10:39 yet rested it with the residue so
00:10:43 basically this this this country this
00:10:48 this Kingdom this Kingdom the fourth
00:10:50 Kingdom Rome is basically going on
00:10:54 autopilot yeah in the midst that’s the
00:10:57 middle the middle head of the
00:11:00 three it’s an old way of saying middle
00:11:02 but yeah and um Rome has been kind of
00:11:08 sleeping been not doing its job for a
00:11:13 while but lately it has been waking up
00:11:16 right so right and that’s another
00:11:18 element of this prophecy and so let’s go
00:11:21 to verse five Josh here moreover I
00:11:25 beheld and low the eagle flew with her
00:11:30 feathers and rained upon the Earth and
00:11:33 over them that dwelt therein okay so
00:11:36 there you go the eagle and the Nations
00:11:38 and the eagle with her subsequent with
00:11:40 her
00:11:43 um with her supporting
00:11:45 Nations um reigned upon the Earth rained
00:11:49 upon the Earth not
00:11:51 just one portion of the earth like the
00:11:54 USA but upon the whole earth yeah right
00:11:58 so this is why I say the supporting
00:12:00 Nations um right right and I’m just
00:12:03 trying to help bring some support of
00:12:05 that out of the text and also bring out
00:12:07 how why it’s not a common interpretation
00:12:09 that’s out there right okay and I’ll go
00:12:15 and I’ll go ahead and read verse six
00:12:17 since I haven’t read a verse yet I don’t
00:12:18 think and I saw that all things under
00:12:21 Heaven were subject onto unto her and no
00:12:23 man spake against her no not one
00:12:26 creature upon the Earth this goes along
00:12:28 with that idea of the you know who’s
00:12:31 empowered by who you’re not allowed to
00:12:32 criticize right right but it’s uh all
00:12:36 things under Heaven as in the whole
00:12:38 world not just a little portion this
00:12:41 this reference to All Things is not a
00:12:43 reference to Torah right right this is
00:12:46 and I wasn’t trying to bring that in I
00:12:49 was saying not just a little portion of
00:12:51 the Northern America right every
00:12:56 everything under Heaven Every Nation
00:12:59 under heaven and and if and Ben’s better
00:13:03 at this but uh Rome through its various
00:13:08 kingdoms through time has reigned over
00:13:11 the whole earth especially Britain there
00:13:14 was a time when the Sun never set it on
00:13:18 Britain yeah where the Sun never set on
00:13:20 the British Empire and of course the
00:13:21 French always said that’s because he
00:13:23 doesn’t trust the Brit it’s because he
00:13:25 doesn’t trust the British in the
00:13:27 dark but
00:13:30 um well well there’s something to be
00:13:34 said about that but anyway yes I agree
00:13:37 it’s funny and and truthful at the same
00:13:39 time but yeah um okay uh Sharon are you
00:13:44 there yeah okay do you want to go ahead
00:13:47 and read verse seven for us
00:13:50 okay and I beheld and low the eagle Rose
00:13:56 upon her Talons and spake to her
00:13:58 feathers saying okay okay so here is
00:14:01 Rome
00:14:03 organizing organizing the
00:14:06 kingdoms and now Ben would know better
00:14:08 but this somewhat goes along the lines
00:14:10 that the eagle or at least the middle
00:14:13 head is starting to wake up right right
00:14:16 this is H but yeah this is yeah this is
00:14:20 but as as
00:14:22 our yeah so this is starting to wake up
00:14:25 this is starting to exercise their power
00:14:27 so let’s go so let’s go down to verse
00:14:30 eight and if and Charles can you read
00:14:32 verse eight or is it still too is that
00:14:35 too
00:14:37 small yeah I can see
00:14:41 wait
00:14:46 watch oh not all at
00:14:52 once I’m seeing it but I have a problem
00:14:54 with my phone it is displaying the words
00:14:57 very very small okay okay well let’s
00:14:59 have someone else read Ben okay let’s
00:15:01 let’s just move on then um Zack verse
00:15:05 eight what’s not all at once sleep
00:15:08 everyone in his own place and watch by
00:15:11 course okay so he’s organizing the he’s
00:15:15 organizing he’s organizing the feathers
00:15:17 or nations to watch over the rule to
00:15:21 watch over its
00:15:23 domain in its own place and in its own
00:15:26 course right right and one thing not all
00:15:29 at once I think this goes along that
00:15:32 these kingdoms or feathers happen at
00:15:35 different times in history
00:15:38 yes sleep everyone in his own place is
00:15:41 also another reference to time and here
00:15:44 is here’s a really here’s a really good
00:15:47 one Josh verse nine but let the heads be
00:15:52 preserved for the last the heads are the
00:15:55 fifth
00:15:56 Kingdom yeah um so along with that uh
00:16:00 one of the duties
00:16:03 of Rome is to prepare things for the
00:16:07 fifth Kingdom and this gets into a lot
00:16:10 of issues including the statue and other
00:16:14 Visions from Daniel but there are five
00:16:17 kingdoms in these things and not four so
00:16:23 yeah uh so I’ll read verse 10 Stephen
00:16:27 actually Stephen you want to read verse
00:16:28 10
00:16:29 yeah and I beheld and lo The Voice went
00:16:33 out of her heads went
00:16:35 not voice went not out of her heads but
00:16:39 from the midst of her body um so this is
00:16:43 actually this is actually dis this you
00:16:46 know
00:16:48 this uh this is actually kind of
00:16:52 descriptive of the fact that Rome is
00:16:54 kind of in the middle of
00:16:56 everything right and and how the these
00:16:58 nations are speaking and setting forth
00:17:01 laws and going out and doing things
00:17:04 right the body where the the feathers
00:17:06 are on the body itself so it’s talking
00:17:09 about all the the 12 feathers and the
00:17:12 eight contrary feathers that statement
00:17:15 right there I would say right right
00:17:18 okay and uh okay I’ll read verse 11 and
00:17:22 I numbered the contr feathers and behold
00:17:23 there were eight of them these are
00:17:25 smaller kingdoms the eight contr
00:17:27 feathers are smaller kingdoms that grow
00:17:29 out of the large out of the large ones
00:17:33 as in stated in verse three right
00:17:35 they’re not just some independent
00:17:37 feathers on their own they’re coming out
00:17:40 of the other feathers yeah right it’s
00:17:44 not something coming from
00:17:46 nothing which I just I know I’ve already
00:17:49 said it but goes against uh it being US
00:17:51 presidents because presidents don’t grow
00:17:53 out of presidents Nations some Nations
00:17:56 do grow out of other nations
00:17:59 yes very true okay so
00:18:05 um 12 I believe
00:18:10 yeah I just lost a name
00:18:15 it you want me pause here I’ll pause
00:18:17 while you’re thinking no I lost the name
00:18:20 of who I want to read it oh okay I’ll
00:18:24 read it 12 yeah there you go there you
00:18:27 go Sharon
00:18:29 I lost your name it was out it was in
00:18:31 there but it wasn’t so okay 12
00:18:36 yep and I looked and behold on the right
00:18:41 side there arose one feather and rained
00:18:45 over all the Earth okay and so this is
00:18:49 one feather Rises it rains over all the
00:18:51 earth I don’t think we need I don’t
00:18:53 think it requires much more explanation
00:18:55 than that well this is probably one
00:18:57 thing I probably out is this is probably
00:18:59 the first feather right yeah well yeah
00:19:02 this it’s talking about it’s talking
00:19:05 about the first feather right um and so
00:19:08 yeah it’s so it stands up and does its
00:19:12 thing okay Zach verse
00:19:15 13 and so it was that when it rained the
00:19:20 end of it came and the place thereof
00:19:22 appeared no
00:19:24 more so the next fall the we stood up
00:19:26 and rained had a great time had a great
00:19:31 time okay so different translations uh
00:19:35 brings out that grade is a long time um
00:19:40 not that they were part a party or
00:19:43 things really easy it’s it’s about
00:19:46 length a lot of time yeah so so so the
00:19:51 second one goes up for many years and I
00:19:54 I don’t want to get too much into the
00:19:57 interpretation just to lay down the
00:19:59 basic facts of what’s in the text so the
00:20:01 second one stands up and raises Reigns
00:20:04 for a great many for a great many
00:20:06 years okay
00:20:08 um and now it is Josh your turn
00:20:14 okay and it happened that when it rained
00:20:18 the end of it came also like as the
00:20:21 first so that it appeared no more okay
00:20:25 okay and verse F and verse 15 Ste
00:20:29 then came a voice unto it and
00:20:31 said hear thou that Hast borne rule over
00:20:34 all over the Earth so long this I say
00:20:37 unto thee that thou beest before thou
00:20:39 beest to appear no
00:20:41 more so real quick I just want to say
00:20:43 for so long goes along with the great
00:20:46 time being a long time right
00:20:50 y uh I’ll screw up a little bit maybe
00:20:53 right there okay and
00:20:57 Sharon what number we
00:21:00 on
00:21:02 seven uh
00:21:05 17 yep
00:21:07 17 there shall none after thee attain
00:21:11 unto thy time neither unto the half
00:21:15 thereof okay put a bullet point on
00:21:17 neither onto the half thereof and hold
00:21:22 that
00:21:24 thought okay so you don’t want to get
00:21:25 into that yet not yet we until we go
00:21:28 into the interpretations we’re just
00:21:30 trying to get the facts as they appear
00:21:33 on the page yeah so real quick who what
00:21:37 if this is uh no matter what the
00:21:41 feathers are countries or US
00:21:44 presidents um there’s
00:21:46 only there’s one that had the greatest
00:21:48 amount of time and everybody else did
00:21:52 not even get half of that
00:21:57 time right just as a quick
00:22:00 summary if it was if it were yeah what
00:22:03 this is stating is that one feather
00:22:06 rained for a long long time and no other
00:22:09 feather had even half that time yeah
00:22:13 right yes
00:22:16 okay
00:22:18 yeah uh okay so uh now Zack
00:22:24 18 then arose then arose the third and r
00:22:28 the other before and appeared no more
00:22:31 also okay and Josh
00:22:35 19 so went it with all the residue one
00:22:39 after another as that everyone reigned
00:22:42 and then appeared no more okay one thing
00:22:45 I I do want to uh just maybe put a focus
00:22:49 on appeared no more as they weren’t seen
00:22:53 anymore as in they didn’t exist anymore
00:22:57 right
00:22:58 yep they ceased to exist
00:23:03 um as the powerful entity that they had
00:23:06 been well right right because Britain
00:23:10 because Great Britain still exists if
00:23:12 you’re looking at it if you’re looking
00:23:13 at it from the perspective of countries
00:23:15 Great Britain still exists but it’s not
00:23:17 the it’s not the
00:23:21 absolute now now it’s only now it’s
00:23:23 merely a monetary power right but I
00:23:26 don’t think this appeared more is
00:23:28 applied to every feather it’s just
00:23:31 right so even with Britain still being
00:23:35 in existence I don’t think that’s a
00:23:37 problem because that’s not applied to
00:23:38 every no I don’t see I don’t see it as a
00:23:40 problem uh with with with what we’re
00:23:43 gonna talk about so uh verse okay who
00:23:48 just did who just did I did 19 okay
00:23:51 Steven 20 then I beheld and lo in the
00:23:56 process of time the feather s that
00:23:58 followed stood up upon the right side
00:24:02 that they might rule also and some of
00:24:04 them ruled but within a while they
00:24:08 appeared no more so it’s saying same
00:24:11 thing but one thing it is kind of
00:24:13 interesting the way this is word worded
00:24:16 it implies that some of them did not
00:24:19 really rule right right uh and for
00:24:22 instance especi and 21 takes all the
00:24:25 implying out of it for some of them were
00:24:27 set up but ruled not oh well okay so
00:24:31 that that makes it very explicit right y
00:24:35 well and and and for stuff like that you
00:24:37 can point to things like the world
00:24:39 economic Forum or um right things like
00:24:44 that since you’re saying that I will
00:24:46 also say you can’t use that to point to
00:24:48 US presidents because that goes against
00:24:51 that they because they well yeah unless
00:24:54 you’re unless you’re really stretching
00:24:56 it and creating a real disaster scenario
00:24:59 which um technically could happen but
00:25:02 that would go against but that would go
00:25:04 against what we have in Prophecy in
00:25:06 scripture technically right that that
00:25:08 would actually fit Biden because of his
00:25:11 dementia um Comm running sure I I can
00:25:16 see where you’re getting at with that
00:25:18 but I will say I I don’t think there is
00:25:21 any
00:25:22 any most US presidents are just puppets
00:25:25 in my opinion so none of them really
00:25:27 Biden it’s Biden it’s just obvious yeah
00:25:30 Biden is very obvious Biden it’s just
00:25:33 obvious that we haven’t had a the
00:25:36 president of the United States has not
00:25:37 ruled the nation since 1913 or since
00:25:41 1912 sorry let’s let’s be real the the
00:25:45 US president hasn’t wielded any power in
00:25:48 the United States since ulyses S
00:25:51 Grant oh yeah you’ve got a point you’ve
00:25:54 got a
00:25:54 pointed it all the way but yeah so sure
00:25:57 so depending what you are on that
00:26:00 issue um there’s multiples that didn’t
00:26:03 Rule and some that did so if you just
00:26:07 think it’s only Biden that doesn’t fit
00:26:09 US presidents if you think it’s all of
00:26:12 them that doesn’t fit either right so
00:26:15 because it states that some clearly
00:26:17 ruled yes some did rule some did not and
00:26:22 I I do understand we’re giving some
00:26:24 ideas that probably most people won’t
00:26:26 agree with here on US presidents but
00:26:30 anyways so verse uh so let’s see uh it’s
00:26:34 me yep that’s you
00:26:36 22 after this I looked and behold the 12
00:26:42 feathers appeared no more nor the two
00:26:45 little
00:26:47 feathers okay and okay so Zach
00:26:52 23 and there was no more upon the
00:26:55 Eagle’s body the three heads that rested
00:26:59 six of six little wings yeah so the
00:27:04 whatever the feathers are are now gone
00:27:07 right all the he’s been plucked to be
00:27:10 cooked and I’m saying that way on
00:27:16 purpose
00:27:18 okay okay so go on so now it’s your turn
00:27:22 Josh
00:27:24 24 then saw I also that two Little
00:27:27 Feathers divided themselves from the
00:27:31 six and remained under the head that was
00:27:35 upon the right
00:27:36 side or the four continued their
00:27:41 place so yeah so this is the
00:27:46 um yeah so this is
00:27:48 the this is the this is um this is kind
00:27:53 of in the
00:27:55 U yeah this is this is kind of in the
00:27:58 interum between when the feathers
00:28:00 between the feathers and the rule of the
00:28:02 heads right during a period of and it
00:28:07 indicates a period of unrest because two
00:28:10 do not wish to remain under two of the
00:28:12 four two of the six do not wish to
00:28:14 remain under the heads
00:28:16 um and uh all right so maybe maybe I’m
00:28:21 reading too much into this and and and
00:28:23 if I am okay but there’s a difference
00:28:28 between feathers and wings yeah okay the
00:28:33 previous verse it says six little
00:28:36 wings yep now in verse 24 says two
00:28:41 little feathers divided themselves from
00:28:43 the six right Wings well that and that’s
00:28:48 actually we can look at another
00:28:50 interpretation real quick or translation
00:28:53 sorry if I’m sorry this is just
00:28:55 confusing me a little bit because now
00:28:57 see in
00:28:58 verse2 you got 12 feathers nor the two
00:29:01 little feathers which I don’t remember
00:29:03 anything ever having been said about two
00:29:05 little feathers before anywhere in the
00:29:07 ver in the chapter right now we’ve got
00:29:09 six little wings and then two little
00:29:11 feathers that divided themselves from
00:29:13 the six I am assuming they’re referring
00:29:16 to the six little wings in the previous
00:29:18 verse well this is feather so this could
00:29:21 be so let’s just look real quick so I
00:29:23 have is there a picture of this on sure
00:29:27 I can find one um give me a minute at
00:29:30 the there’s one from there’s there is
00:29:33 one from um K’s
00:29:37 interpretation of
00:29:40 the I’m trying to make this bigger uh
00:29:44 same size so that was verse uh 22 23 24
00:29:49 22 through 24 yeah yeah so here it’s
00:29:52 wings and two Wings instead of two
00:29:55 feathers so this is probably some
00:29:58 translation make some yeah basically
00:30:01 what they’re doing because what we have
00:30:04 because one this is one of the this is
00:30:07 one of the weaknesses of the King James
00:30:08 translation is its lack of
00:30:12 consistency with a lack of consistency
00:30:14 within
00:30:15 itself uh so that’s why it’s a it’s
00:30:19 great it’s a great place to start but
00:30:21 you do need to look at other places
00:30:24 which is I mean and what we have here is
00:30:27 showing what I was going to say and that
00:30:29 is that wings and feathers are actually
00:30:32 used interchangeably in right right and
00:30:34 so here it’s always Wings here here it’s
00:30:37 always Wings here it’s going back and
00:30:40 forth but it’s using these other ones
00:30:42 are the same numbers that it talks about
00:30:43 the feathers right right okay so I can
00:30:46 see if it’s feathers up above or wings
00:30:49 um yeah so the
00:30:52 The Feathered here here feathered wings
00:30:59 Wings it sets up right in verse one that
00:31:01 they’re going to probably be using
00:31:04 them
00:31:05 interchangeably yeah so the I I think
00:31:08 the big thing on that is
00:31:10 translations I mean if we if Ben wanted
00:31:14 to I could try to find it in he uh well
00:31:16 it might it’s probably in Greek um it
00:31:19 would be it would be more likely in
00:31:20 Greek yeah um but it it here it’s also
00:31:26 feathered we in this translation so I I
00:31:30 think that part in this one that we’re
00:31:32 doing the King James is just a
00:31:33 translation issue okay all right yeah I
00:31:37 just yeah I was reading too much into it
00:31:40 I I
00:31:42 was literally I’m glad you I’m glad I’m
00:31:45 glad you brought it up well we should
00:31:47 bring stuff up because that was because
00:31:50 that was something that I neglected to
00:31:52 bring up when we’re going through verse
00:31:55 one so thanks for bring bringing that up
00:31:58 no worries yeah so yeah
00:32:03 uh behold and low the feather
00:32:06 okay 25 yeah oh so one thing I 24 it’s
00:32:11 interesting here what I would say makes
00:32:13 it so it can’t go with the popular
00:32:16 interpretation four continued four are
00:32:20 still ruling and even in a way six are
00:32:23 two right because here’s two and here’s
00:32:25 four that are kind of separated
00:32:28 themselves but they’re still
00:32:29 powerful right and then you got the
00:32:31 other four over here hold and serve with
00:32:34 the head yeah and I and I and I can I 2
00:32:40 24 is referring to our current 24 is
00:32:42 definitely referring to our current time
00:32:44 right right and but the main thing I’m
00:32:46 bringing out here is six that are ruling
00:32:48 at the same time right that doesn’t work
00:32:51 with US presidents I mean I know it’s
00:32:53 been a while since I went to school and
00:32:55 learned about that but I do see Politics
00:32:59 on on social media and TV news and all
00:33:03 that and there’s only one president
00:33:06 ruling at a time so okay so there okay
00:33:10 so 24 let’s Okay 2 who was the last one
00:33:15 who
00:33:16 read I read
00:33:19 um I read 24 I want to say okay uh okay
00:33:24 Stephen 25 sure and I held and low the
00:33:28 feathers that were under the wing
00:33:31 thought to set themselves up and have
00:33:34 the rule okay the feathers under the
00:33:37 wing H I really want to I really want to
00:33:40 delve into that but it’s not time yet
00:33:42 not time yet okay okay well basically
00:33:45 whatever the wants to get into I will
00:33:47 say this the feathers slash
00:33:50 Wings don’t want to be controlled
00:33:53 anymore right whatever they are yeah
00:33:58 that’s probably safe to say hopefully
00:33:59 because I just said it yeah they they
00:34:02 they they don’t want to be under the
00:34:04 hegemony of Rome anymore yeah they don’t
00:34:08 want the heads over them anymore so okay
00:34:11 behold okay
00:34:14 and behold and lo there was one set up
00:34:17 but shortly it appeared no more
00:34:22 okay so one gets set up but it app but
00:34:25 it disappears
00:34:27 doesn’t last long either it says
00:34:30 shortly uh yeah good point there okay
00:34:34 Sharon 27 and the second was sooner away
00:34:38 than the
00:34:39 first
00:34:41 28
00:34:43 Zach and I beheld him low the two that
00:34:46 remained thought also in themselves to
00:34:51 rain and okay Josh and when they so saw
00:34:57 it behold there awake one of the heads
00:35:00 that were at rest
00:35:02 namely it that was in the
00:35:05 midst or that was greater than the two
00:35:08 other
00:35:09 heads um so one one thing I do want to
00:35:12 say was probably okay this is talking
00:35:13 about how these feathers are wanting to
00:35:15 take control right and that’s waking up
00:35:19 the uh heads of the eagle say like what
00:35:23 what you’re you’re getting out of place
00:35:25 here right
00:35:27 don’t make me squash you you’re stepping
00:35:29 outside don’t make me squash
00:35:32 you you’re stepping outside of the
00:35:35 plan and so
00:35:37 um let’s see
00:35:40 verse okay it was just who just read I
00:35:45 did
00:35:47 okay Stephen sure and then I saw that
00:35:51 the two other heads were joined with it
00:35:56 so he’s getting buddies to help them
00:35:58 right yep behold the head was turned
00:36:01 with them that were with it and did eat
00:36:03 up the two feathers under the wing that
00:36:05 would have
00:36:06 rained
00:36:09 so yep okay Sharon doesn’t rain doesn’t
00:36:13 going beyond what they were allotted to
00:36:16 reain over right right stepping over
00:36:18 their bounds yes Nations that are
00:36:22 stepping over their bounds and um yeah
00:36:26 but this head put the whole earth in
00:36:30 fear and bear rule in it over all those
00:36:34 that dwelt upon the Earth with much
00:36:37 oppression and it had the governance of
00:36:40 the world more than all the wings that
00:36:43 had
00:36:44 been is this what’s coming or what’s
00:36:47 happening yeah this is what this is
00:36:49 we’re getting set up for this we’re
00:36:51 being set up for this now
00:36:54 yeah um Okay so so
00:36:58 um uh it’s uh Zach
00:37:02 33 and after this I beheld low the head
00:37:06 that was in the Mist suddenly appeared
00:37:09 no more like as the
00:37:13 wings
00:37:15 and third JH Josh
00:37:20 34 but there remained the two heads
00:37:24 which also in like sort ruled upon the
00:37:26 the Earth and over those that dwelt
00:37:30 therein when they say in like sort they
00:37:33 ruled the same way that with much
00:37:35 oppression one head had rule yeah with
00:37:38 much oppression
00:37:40 yeah um yeah
00:37:44 um verse 35 Stephen and I beheld and low
00:37:51 the head upon the right side
00:37:55 devoured it meaning the left side that
00:37:58 was oh here we go I’m just that was upon
00:38:01 the left side yep so now
00:38:05 now now we have inviting yes and one
00:38:09 left right only one
00:38:13 left so pull it scroll it up there we go
00:38:17 then I Heard a Voice which said unto me
00:38:19 look before thee and consider the thing
00:38:22 that thou
00:38:24 seest and
00:38:29 37 uh and I beheld and lo as it were a
00:38:33 roaring lion chased out of the wood and
00:38:36 I saw that he sent out a man’s voice
00:38:39 unto the eagle and said verse 38 Zach he
00:38:45 thou hear thou I will talk with thee and
00:38:49 the highest shall sayto
00:38:51 me and uh now it’s uh Josh
00:38:57 yeah me it’s me I meant I meant
00:39:00 me art not thou it that remainest of the
00:39:03 four beasts whom I made to Reign my
00:39:07 world that the end of their times might
00:39:10 come through
00:39:12 them
00:39:13 Sten and the fourth came and overcame
00:39:17 all the beasts that were
00:39:20 past and had power over the world with
00:39:24 great fearfulness and over the whole
00:39:26 whole Compass of the Earth with much
00:39:29 Wicked
00:39:31 oppression and so long time dwelt he
00:39:34 upon the Earth with deceit so this is
00:39:37 the eagle that’s been reigning Rome for
00:39:40 a very long time
00:39:43 right for the Earth hast thou not judged
00:39:47 with
00:39:50 truth which book are we going through
00:39:53 this is second EAS it’s in the apost
00:39:56 ocpha this is in the
00:39:58 Apocrypha uh which is not in all Bibles
00:40:01 it’s in some Bibles but not others
00:40:04 um the Apocrypha you need to be careful
00:40:08 there’s good and bad there okay it was
00:40:11 this one’s good it was thrown out of the
00:40:14 Bible by the church of
00:40:18 England so most Protestants don’t have
00:40:22 it and most reformations don’t have it
00:40:26 also but anyways Catholics have it and
00:40:32 others who like to study scriptures more
00:40:35 seriously have it uh will have it in
00:40:38 various forms maybe not in their Bible
00:40:40 but they may get it separate or
00:40:43 whatnot so verse 42 yeah for thou Hast
00:40:47 Afflicted the meek thou Hast hurt the
00:40:51 Peaceable thou Hast loved liars and
00:40:55 destroyed the dwelling of them that
00:40:57 brought forth fruit and has cast Down
00:41:00 the Walls of such as did thee no
00:41:05 harm this looks like the lion of Judah
00:41:08 coming forth in
00:41:09 judgment
00:41:14 y
00:41:15 43
00:41:19 yep yeah there therefore is thy wrongful
00:41:23 dealing come up unto the highest and
00:41:26 Pride unto the
00:41:28 mighty okay the highest also hath looked
00:41:32 upon the proud times and behold they are
00:41:35 ended and his Abominations are
00:41:38 fulfilled um so I I
00:41:42 uh maybe I shouldn’t say something
00:41:44 because I think Ben has stuff at the end
00:41:46 but I I mean this sounds a lot like a
00:41:48 stuff that PO people like to talk about
00:41:50 that’s coming I’ll just say that yeah
00:41:52 therefore appear no more thou eagle nor
00:41:56 thy horrible Wings nor thy Wicked
00:42:00 feathers nor thy malicious heads nor thy
00:42:04 hurtful claws nor all thy vain
00:42:14 body that all the Earth may be
00:42:17 refreshed and may
00:42:20 return being delivered from thy violence
00:42:23 that she may hope for the judgment and
00:42:24 mercy of him that made
00:42:29 her
00:42:31 so now
00:42:34 the most
00:42:36 interpretations stay only stay
00:42:41 primarily with the top verses they
00:42:47 um they attempt to explain uh the
00:42:52 um the yeah Prout attempts to explain
00:42:56 the um feathers as US presidents he’s
00:43:00 not the only one but he might be the
00:43:01 most famous one he’s the most he’s the
00:43:04 most prominent one um so let’s go up to
00:43:07 the top
00:43:09 again is is
00:43:12 um is the at the end is that y talking
00:43:17 yes that is that is y yes yeah that’s
00:43:22 Second Coming uh destruction before
00:43:25 second coming and Second Coming that is
00:43:28 right and so
00:43:30 um he okay go down to uh where we see
00:43:37 the long rain the feathers beginning to
00:43:40 stand up one by one in their turn okay
00:43:45 probably the one probably around here
00:43:47 because here’s that great time one might
00:43:49 be one you want okay okay so arose one
00:43:52 feather and rained over all the Earth uh
00:43:55 and Al so it was that when it rained the
00:43:57 end of it came and the place there
00:43:58 appeared no more so the next following
00:44:00 stood up and rained had a great time and
00:44:02 they point to um for the second one for
00:44:06 the second president in this series they
00:44:08 point to
00:44:09 FDR
00:44:12 um which is actually
00:44:15 wrong because FDR never finished his
00:44:18 fourth term
00:44:20 no the thing is if they are pointing to
00:44:23 him that makes it so no other president
00:44:27 can have two terms that’s right in order
00:44:30 prophecy to be about presidents that
00:44:32 would mean that after FDR no president
00:44:35 could have had two terms right because
00:44:37 he didn’t even have even if he had four
00:44:40 but he he was elected he was elected to
00:44:42 four but he died in his fourth term so
00:44:44 he didn’t serve out his full fourth term
00:44:46 right right but even if it was four uh
00:44:49 it states that all other feathers had
00:44:52 less than
00:44:54 half right not even the half of his time
00:44:57 right so even if he had four it still
00:44:59 means that others couldn’t have two
00:45:02 that’s true that’s true um so yeah in
00:45:06 order in order for the correct
00:45:08 interpretation to be presidents he would
00:45:10 have had to have been elected to a fifth
00:45:12 term correct because we know that there
00:45:15 have been presidents there have been two
00:45:17 term presidents since Franklin Delano
00:45:19 Roosevelt there’s been many I think so
00:45:23 there’s been a few yeah so
00:45:26 it that interpretation fails right there
00:45:31 right and um in addition I particularly
00:45:36 particularly in verse 17 it fails there
00:45:39 shall none after thee attain unto thy
00:45:41 time neither onto the half thereof
00:45:43 that’s why I said bullet point this
00:45:46 right bullet point this we’re coming
00:45:48 back to it neither so what I’ll do I’ll
00:45:51 I’ll copy it that’s how I’ll bullet
00:45:53 point it how about that um also one
00:45:55 thing I want to say oops that’s not what
00:45:58 I want to do U but in this in this
00:46:03 description some feathers rule in series
00:46:07 or I did it again or as in one after the
00:46:10 other and some rule at the same time yes
00:46:17 s so that that only one US president can
00:46:22 rule at a time so that goes against the
00:46:26 idea that some can be going ruling at
00:46:28 the same
00:46:29 time okay and so that
00:46:36 um the uh you know the um and that that
00:46:42 that also is
00:46:43 also that is also non
00:46:48 mistakable in this
00:46:51 uh uh in this narrative as something
00:46:55 that is happening there’s a period of
00:46:58 time where multiples are ruling at where
00:47:01 multiples are attempting to rule at once
00:47:04 correct so four four under four under
00:47:09 the head two on their
00:47:13 own yep okay so that also
00:47:19 uh I I mean if we’re going to have six
00:47:22 presidents in one term I
00:47:26 I really don’t want to see that because
00:47:27 that’s going to be super chaotic um
00:47:31 yeah uh but yeah now I will say I I I I
00:47:37 would say part of the reason why uh the
00:47:41 people only like to focus on the first
00:47:43 portion because they don’t know how to
00:47:45 get the second portion to fit into their
00:47:48 interpretation because it does
00:47:52 not and even when proud is presenting on
00:47:56 this he kind of hiccups on
00:48:00 the he kind of hiccups on the four stay
00:48:05 four stay under the heads
00:48:09 to he kind of hiccups on that verse
00:48:12 right
00:48:13 there so let us look at ways that this
00:48:17 could be true let us look at ways that
00:48:20 this is true because I I know that this
00:48:22 is a true prophecy and it is from God
00:48:26 and I I do believe it’s true also uh it
00:48:29 matches up what I see uh with second
00:48:34 coming events it matches up with uh it
00:48:38 matches up with h the second coming
00:48:40 prophecies that I see in Isaiah uh
00:48:43 doctrine of covenants um The Book of
00:48:47 Mormon
00:48:48 Etc so so let’s examine
00:48:52 this let’s examine this as true
00:48:56 instead of trying in a way instead of
00:48:59 trying to
00:49:00 make instead of trying to make a
00:49:03 narrative fit
00:49:06 it okay was that did I say was that
00:49:09 fairly cogent what I’m trying to say we
00:49:13 understand um well I know where you’re
00:49:15 trying to go with it but I still think
00:49:17 you need to say it a different way okay
00:49:20 yeah well we have a tend let’s let the
00:49:23 let’s let the scriptures say what they
00:49:25 say
00:49:27 instead of trying instead of instead of
00:49:30 putting a narrative upon
00:49:32 them that we like that as in let’s not
00:49:36 put our Force our interpretation upon
00:49:38 them and let’s see what they say and not
00:49:41 just one or two verses but the whole
00:49:43 thing yeah and in order for a prophecy
00:49:47 in order for a prophecy to be true all
00:49:49 things it has to take into account all
00:49:52 things and uh the spirit of Prophecy
00:49:54 must be able able to reveal uh the
00:49:57 spirit of Prophecy must be able to
00:49:59 reveal those things which are those
00:50:02 Elements which are perhaps a little
00:50:05 tricky such as they’re happening now
00:50:08 um and therefore there and therefore you
00:50:12 don’t have necessarily a historical
00:50:14 context for
00:50:16 them because uh if it’s happening now
00:50:19 it’s happening now it’s not
00:50:23 history right it’s current
00:50:27 events yeah this has a but this was
00:50:29 prophecy when it was given yep but there
00:50:33 are a lot of it that has already
00:50:35 happened and there’s still some left to
00:50:37 happen right
00:50:39 yes right so let’s go back up to the top
00:50:45 okay okay again then I saw then saw I a
00:50:49 dream and behold there came up from the
00:50:51 sea an
00:50:52 eagle um this is the other reason why a
00:50:55 lot of people point to America is
00:50:57 because they don’t want to look at the
00:50:59 fact that the eagle that is the American
00:51:02 bird is actually the Roman bird and it
00:51:03 was given to it the uh Founders wanted
00:51:06 it for the American bird because um they
00:51:10 knew where wrong it was a DEC it was a
00:51:12 declaration of their allegiance to their
00:51:14 secret societies which right and also
00:51:17 coming out of the sea I do think is
00:51:20 irrelevant that it goes with
00:51:23 uh the other beast in Revel
00:51:25 that comes out of the sea ruled upon and
00:51:29 ruled upon the waters right yes um and
00:51:34 so I think that imagery and wording is
00:51:37 connecting them together right and there
00:51:40 and yeah so it’s uh it comes out of the
00:51:43 peoples of the world and rules over them
00:51:47 so and it had 12 feathered wings those
00:51:51 feathered
00:51:52 wings um let’s look at those as has
00:51:55 actually countries that have carried the
00:51:58 power of uh the power of
00:52:01 Rome uh forward Through the Ages um
00:52:05 because yeah
00:52:08 uh because that’s basically what
00:52:10 everybody’s been
00:52:12 doing um the idea while the Roman Empire
00:52:16 died Rome itself did
00:52:19 not do you want to look at the the 12 we
00:52:22 think it is or wait for later yeah well
00:52:24 let’s take a look
00:52:25 let’s and in verse two and I saw and
00:52:27 behold she spread her wings over all the
00:52:29 Earth okay power over all the Earth
00:52:32 let’s
00:52:33 see yeah
00:52:35 let’s uh let’s let we go down here
00:52:42 um it’s it’s 12 feathers verse three it
00:52:46 points out that there are
00:52:49 eight verse three that there are other
00:52:51 contrary feathers that grow out of the
00:52:54 12 yeah uh okay heads are at
00:53:00 rest they’re letting because they’re
00:53:02 letting the the because the kingdoms are
00:53:05 watching over the rule I saw that all
00:53:08 things under Heaven were subject onto
00:53:11 her uh Eagle rose on her Talons and
00:53:14 spake and now we’re as the eagle is
00:53:20 organizing it’s
00:53:24 um saying uh it says not it’s uh
00:53:29 speaking to the feathers not watch not
00:53:31 all at
00:53:32 once everyone in their time and course
00:53:35 let the heads be preserved for the
00:53:37 last right go
00:53:43 down so this is just organizing each
00:53:46 feather is going to rule by course with
00:53:49 the heads coming after um the
00:53:52 interesting thing is that the voice
00:53:54 comes out of the midst of
00:53:56 body
00:53:57 uh
00:54:02 there’s this can this is
00:54:06 um you know this is a reference to the
00:54:09 fact that the heads that we see are not
00:54:13 the
00:54:15 governance right they’re being
00:54:17 controlled by something else they’re
00:54:19 being they’re being controlled by
00:54:20 something that we cannot see something
00:54:23 which goes along a lot of
00:54:26 people uh believe most presidents in all
00:54:30 countries are controlled by something
00:54:32 else right
00:54:36 yep so and I numbered her contrary
00:54:39 feathers and so there are eight contrary
00:54:41 feathers so we have 12 regular feathers
00:54:43 and eight contrary feathers now one
00:54:46 thing we just to to emphasize
00:54:49 again the contrary or smaller feathers
00:54:53 grow out of the normal feathers they
00:54:56 come out of them right they’re not just
00:55:00 they’re not something out there
00:55:01 independent on their own okay
00:55:05 okay so yes uh they didn’t come from
00:55:08 nothing correct correct right it’s uh
00:55:13 unlike what they would have you believe
00:55:15 you can’t make something out of nothing
00:55:18 um okay so let’s
00:55:21 see and I looked and behold on the right
00:55:24 side there arose one feather and it
00:55:25 rained over all the Earth this first
00:55:27 feather is the Roman Republic that
00:55:29 reigned for five that uh pushed Rome for
00:55:32 pushed Roman ideals forward for 500
00:55:35 years
00:55:37 roughly um and so it was that when it
00:55:41 rained the end of it came and the place
00:55:43 thereof appeared no more so the next
00:55:45 following stood up and rained and had a
00:55:47 great time this is actually the Roman
00:55:49 Empire which was formed by uh Augustus
00:55:52 SE which was remade from the Roman
00:55:55 Republic into the Roman Empire by
00:55:57 Augustus Caesar in 27 BC and the sa and
00:56:04 finally the last vestiges of Roman
00:56:06 political power were destroyed with the
00:56:08 sack of Constantinople in
00:56:10 1453 well one thing I don’t know it
00:56:13 might be important to talk about how it
00:56:15 changed from a republic to an Empire to
00:56:18 help understand that that if you want to
00:56:21 yeah it well I thought I had talked
00:56:24 about that but but yeah um that’s the
00:56:27 that’s the Salient change there that’s
00:56:29 the difference between the first feather
00:56:31 and the second feather oh right right I
00:56:33 I guess more let me specify what I’m
00:56:34 thinking an Empire is ruled by a king
00:56:37 that just rules because he’s there and
00:56:40 wants to be there where Republic they
00:56:43 are voted in yeah and yeah that they are
00:56:47 they are yeah and so that’s where a big
00:56:50 change happened right honestly the Roman
00:56:53 Republic I mean it struggled on for a
00:56:57 few years after Julius Caesar but Julius
00:56:59 Caesar was the death nail of the Roman
00:57:02 Republic right um the and so but as a
00:57:07 result the Roman Empire Rises From the
00:57:10 Ashes of the Roman From the Ashes of the
00:57:13 Roman Civil Wars um and becomes and
00:57:18 becomes the Roman Empire um under the
00:57:23 under the brilliant leaders ship of of
00:57:26 Augustus
00:57:27 Caesar
00:57:29 um
00:57:31 who seized power by appearing not to
00:57:34 want
00:57:37 power so but the in but that that’s just
00:57:40 an interesting thing this is a this is a
00:57:43 similarity between Augustus Caesar and
00:57:46 the uh and the
00:57:49 Antichrist yep oh I don’t want this
00:57:52 awesome responsibility but if you
00:57:54 entrust it to me I’ll take
00:57:57 it yep which will be somewhat how the
00:58:02 Antichrist will take yes so the this is
00:58:07 the um so this is so the Roman Empire
00:58:11 ruled the Roman Empire held political
00:58:14 great political clout and Power in the
00:58:16 world for, 1480 years so half of that so
00:58:20 as we go down to 17 there shall none of
00:58:23 the none after the attain on to thy time
00:58:25 neither unto the half thereof no
00:58:29 other in so in order for that now in
00:58:32 order for the rest of these to fall into
00:58:33 line with that prophecy they can’t hold
00:58:36 power and sway for more than 740 years
00:58:40 or I they can’t even hold that long
00:58:44 right it can’t even be half yeah yeah
00:58:48 one one thing I think to point out here
00:58:50 because I can see some people having an
00:58:52 issue with it the Catholic
00:58:55 Church um the
00:58:58 papacy was not a ruling Nation okay
00:59:03 because I know they’ve been around
00:59:04 longer than that but they were not a
00:59:05 ruling
00:59:06 Nation
00:59:08 no they had in fact you’ll see here on
00:59:11 this list we don’t even have them on
00:59:13 there these are nations not in order for
00:59:16 them to exercise political power they
00:59:18 had to invent the
00:59:21 Templars
00:59:23 yeah
00:59:25 yeah I get
00:59:30 yeah which we do kind of have right here
00:59:33 right right there
00:59:35 yeah anyways the yes so the
00:59:41 uh so then after the Roman Empire fell
00:59:45 in the West in the west the power of
00:59:48 Rome continued on in the Kingdom of
00:59:50 frania with in combination with the
00:59:52 Catholic Church um
00:59:55 the uh and so the the and there and here
00:59:59 we have the foundation of the Holy
01:00:01 Grail where as the uh Catholic Church
01:00:05 assiduously
01:00:08 breeds females from the line of David
01:00:12 into the Frankish
01:00:14 line to create the Holy
01:00:17 Grail yeah um which goes along with
01:00:21 later down here at the bottom right but
01:00:27 which is also why um legends that are
01:00:31 purported to be about events from this
01:00:33 time also often include a search for the
01:00:35 Holy
01:00:38 Grail which is that bloodline that was
01:00:41 just talked about okay it’s not Yer
01:00:44 bloodline it is a
01:00:47 twisted dtic line of blood because in
01:00:51 the Scriptures it goes by male not
01:00:55 female yeah the line G the line given by
01:00:58 God in the scriptures is
01:01:00 patrilineal yes the line that they have
01:01:03 the line of the line of David that they
01:01:05 have
01:01:06 concocted is
01:01:09 matrilineal a key word concocted I’m
01:01:12 having a hard time saying that but ConEd
01:01:14 yes yeah yes that is a key word there so
01:01:18 there so with that you have the maravian
01:01:21 kingdom of Fran Francia of frania and
01:01:24 then you have the Holy Roman
01:01:27 Empire Charlamagne with
01:01:31 Charlamagne uh which divided into its
01:01:33 three which divided into its three
01:01:36 contrary feathers of burgundia frania
01:01:38 and the German Holy Roman
01:01:40 Empire these are three feathers that
01:01:43 grew out of one feather
01:01:48 right and so they and so they fulfill
01:01:52 the um
01:01:55 they fulfill the they fulfill that
01:01:58 requirement as given to us in Ezra eagal
01:02:02 just an interesting side
01:02:04 note uh we are actually I don’t know if
01:02:08 you know this Ben but you should but
01:02:11 we’re directly descended from
01:02:13 Charlemagne I know
01:02:16 yeah
01:02:19 yep charlamagne’s in my
01:02:22 genealogy yep he’s in a lot of people’s
01:02:25 genealogy actually he he’s Charlamagne
01:02:27 is a Charlamagne is one of those known
01:02:29 as a
01:02:30 superstud
01:02:33 yep uh I really don’t know much of my
01:02:36 genealogy so anyway I do believe I’m
01:02:40 Ephraim yeah so uh so shortly after I’m
01:02:45 a
01:02:46 junker y there you go so shortly after
01:02:51 you have the division of the Holy Roman
01:02:53 Empire then we have the
01:02:57 Crusades States
01:03:01 yep with which are successful in
01:03:03 performing in creating the Crusader
01:03:05 States the Templar yes the knight’s
01:03:08 Templar um or as Phil Davis always used
01:03:12 to like to call them the Knights
01:03:15 Templar
01:03:17 um yeah so and so there there and then
01:03:22 after the then after that fails we have
01:03:25 the rise of we have the rise of the
01:03:29 medich which also results in the rise of
01:03:32 Spain against the um against the Islamic
01:03:37 caliphates knocking the Islamic
01:03:39 caliphates back and then you have the
01:03:41 borban French the English uh with their
01:03:46 with their colonial fervor which
01:03:48 resulted in the British Empire upon
01:03:50 which the Sun never
01:03:52 set uh also that Colonial also caught up
01:03:55 in that Colonial fervor are four uh
01:03:59 contrary feathers the Dutch Portuguese
01:04:02 Italians and uh
01:04:05 France and uh and the and revolutionary
01:04:10 France people when France with Napoleon
01:04:13 that’s revolutionary
01:04:19 France um that’s uh that’s a o in front
01:04:24 of the L sir I was close enough that
01:04:30 uh
01:04:32 yeah and and then after that and and
01:04:36 then while
01:04:37 that then there’s the Islamic caliphate
01:04:41 and Russia in in the East there’s the
01:04:43 Islamic caliphates
01:04:46 Russia um now the uh Colonial fervor
01:04:50 culminates in the creation of the USA
01:04:55 um as a result as a free as a Freemason
01:05:01 State yep I would also say Jesuit but
01:05:05 anyways
01:05:07 but the the connections of our founding
01:05:10 fathers to Freemasonry are far more open
01:05:13 and um and so I I call it Freemason
01:05:17 state document they’re better documented
01:05:19 too yeah anyway yeah well and then also
01:05:22 the Constitution is based on of masonic
01:05:25 documentation and documents so and and
01:05:29 NATO is a combin and get NATO has grown
01:05:35 up the
01:05:38 UN the UN is the world government housed
01:05:41 in the USA and the and NATO has grown
01:05:44 out of that Co cooperation between the
01:05:46 United Nations and the USA and so one
01:05:49 thing I I think it’s important to say
01:05:51 about un it’s one that doesn’t really
01:05:54 rule right it’s wanted to but it doesn’t
01:05:57 like is talked about here in in the
01:05:59 prophecy
01:06:02 right and so and so the like I said
01:06:05 these but these are 12 these are 12
01:06:09 Nations that fit that fit the 12 feather
01:06:12 that kind that kind of fit the 12
01:06:14 feather Parts um and then we have the
01:06:18 eight uh feathers that grew out of these
01:06:21 also yeah these are may not be exactly
01:06:26 what’s being talked about in here but
01:06:28 they’re very I would say they’re a very
01:06:30 good proposal and much better proposal
01:06:33 than US
01:06:35 presidents um
01:06:38 so now let’s move on down through past
01:06:43 the
01:06:45 um moving on past the uh okay 12 okay to
01:06:51 where the 12 feathers appeared no more
01:06:54 there were no more upon the Eagle’s body
01:06:56 but three heads that rested in six
01:06:58 little wings and I saw also the two
01:07:00 little feathers divided themselves from
01:07:01 the six remained under the head of that
01:07:04 was upon the right side for the four
01:07:06 continued in their place so these two
01:07:12 feathers are China and
01:07:15 Russia oh um because they do not they
01:07:19 they’re seeking to break the they’re
01:07:21 seeking to break away from the hegemony
01:07:23 of Roman of the of the of Roman power
01:07:27 they’re seeking to create a new hegemony
01:07:29 so I think though with that in mind we
01:07:31 probably need to modify this but we can
01:07:33 do it another time because this is a
01:07:35 different SE this is a different section
01:07:37 so those it is oh okay yeah this is a
01:07:40 different section okay um they are
01:07:43 related but not um okay
01:07:46 okay and then the so those China and
01:07:49 Russia and the four the uh the fourhead
01:07:53 the four four FEA the four wings that
01:07:55 remain under the heads on the left I.E
01:07:58 the Western Powers those are the Western
01:08:04 powers that makes
01:08:08 sense because they remain under the
01:08:10 Roman hey hegemony which Must
01:08:17 Fall now one thing it’s
01:08:20 interesting uh I know this is extra
01:08:23 chical
01:08:24 but there is a video that a lot of
01:08:26 people like my pet two or my go I goat
01:08:31 part two it does show Russia and China
01:08:34 falling it does show yes Russia and
01:08:37 China Russia and China will be
01:08:40 uh they will be as is stated
01:08:44 here it they’re being set up they’re
01:08:47 being set up to
01:08:49 fail uh
01:08:52 it um and as is stated here in this
01:08:56 prophecy they will be eaten by the very
01:08:59 people who have set them up
01:09:02 you
01:09:05 so all nations of the earth Must Fall in
01:09:10 order that the
01:09:13 Antichrist uh that in order that the
01:09:15 Antichrist may come into power and under
01:09:18 one world government One World
01:09:21 Government One World Government sounds
01:09:23 like
01:09:24 one I I don’t know what one means but
01:09:27 and one world religion
01:09:31 yeah which will worship on Sunday and it
01:09:39 will it’ll wear the sign of a cross the
01:09:42 Templar cross just like Constantine
01:09:46 conquer under the cross and I I would
01:09:50 say that their big Focus about
01:09:52 Constantine in that nature is pushing a
01:10:00 prophecy okay anyway because the thing
01:10:02 that when the thing that one has to bear
01:10:04 in mind is that while we have our
01:10:08 prophecies and we have our
01:10:12 um and we have our signs and we have our
01:10:15 things that we’re looking for so do
01:10:18 they um and this prophecy here
01:10:26 is look is is
01:10:29 show is showing their plan from their
01:10:34 plan from God’s perspective that’s why
01:10:36 in several places it does appear
01:10:38 confusing
01:10:40 because it doesn’t make no
01:10:43 sense you mean it makes dollars
01:10:47 anyway people a lot of people you
01:10:50 know the thing is is the ways of the
01:10:53 world when you actually look at them and
01:10:56 put them in their U when you actually
01:10:59 look at them and put them in their
01:11:01 proper perspective and a proper lawful
01:11:03 perspective they don’t make any
01:11:04 sense correct um one thing just to go
01:11:08 along with this how they’re how they
01:11:10 have their own prophecies and
01:11:12 whatnot um that is what they push in
01:11:15 movies that um they love to do so much
01:11:19 including Lord of the Rings okay
01:11:22 yes
01:11:24 so um but that is uh you have uh China
01:11:30 and Russia the two little
01:11:32 feathers uh four of the western powers
01:11:35 and behold and I beh and so there the
01:11:38 four continued in their place and I
01:11:40 behold beheld and lo the feathers that
01:11:43 were under the wing thought to set
01:11:45 themselves up and to have the rule and
01:11:47 this we’re seeing that right now as
01:11:50 everybody’s uh you know we got too many
01:11:54 Chiefs in the Western in the western
01:11:56 world not enough Indians everybody
01:11:58 setting themselves up to rule and I
01:12:00 beheld and lo there was one set up but
01:12:02 shortly it appeared no more the second
01:12:05 was sooner away than the
01:12:07 first uh and behold and low the two that
01:12:10 remained thought also themselves to rain
01:12:13 and when they so thought behold they
01:12:15 were awake there awake one of the heads
01:12:17 that were at the rest that were at rest
01:12:19 namely it was it that was in the midst
01:12:22 for that was greater than the other two
01:12:24 heads so the so basically what we’re
01:12:27 looking at here is of the western Powers
01:12:30 one will rise to
01:12:32 prominence
01:12:33 um and it will be put
01:12:36 down another will rise to prominence and
01:12:40 it will be put down and
01:12:44 um and the other two will and the other
01:12:47 two will not be given the chance to rise
01:12:49 to prominence before the fifth kingdom
01:12:51 comes in
01:12:56 but we’re looking at this as as
01:12:59 happening now or this is this in The
01:13:01 Fairly near future in the very near
01:13:03 future the first one the first one I
01:13:07 believe is the United
01:13:10 States the first marble to fall is the
01:13:12 United States for the Western
01:13:18 powers and Joseph Smith has some canical
01:13:22 uh Revelations on that and some
01:13:24 non-conical ones which I will also say I
01:13:27 believe goes along with the Book of
01:13:29 Mormon being a tight for our
01:13:31 times uh the nephite nation fell apart
01:13:37 before the second the second before the
01:13:39 first coming which is a type for the
01:13:40 second coming falling apart also but
01:13:42 what’s the second one that’s away sooner
01:13:44 than the first well let’s take a look in
01:13:46 doctrine of Covenant section
01:13:48 87
01:13:50 okay okay
01:14:14 so just while I’m getting it this is not
01:14:17 about the Civil War when you read it as
01:14:20 we’re probably I don’t know how much of
01:14:21 it Ben wants to read but it’s about a
01:14:23 war just before the second coming we’re
01:14:26 not going to read a whole lot of it uh
01:14:30 just verses 1 through three
01:14:33 okay so verily thus sayith the Lord
01:14:36 concerning the wars that will shortly
01:14:37 come to pass beginning at the rebellion
01:14:39 of South Carolina which will eventually
01:14:41 terminate in the death and misery of
01:14:42 many souls and the time will come that
01:14:45 war will be poured out upon All Nations
01:14:47 beginning at this place that’s not the
01:14:50 Cil
01:14:52 War the yeah he’s
01:14:55 speaking is’s speaking in terms that
01:15:01 denote yeah well anyways but this also
01:15:04 does Point how the USA is that first one
01:15:07 right that war poured out upon All
01:15:09 Nations is a sign of the second
01:15:11 coming right or to to compare to
01:15:16 Revelations peace is taken from the
01:15:18 earth
01:15:20 the well verse three is speaking
01:15:24 specifically about the Civil War but
01:15:26 yeah
01:15:27 okay not no it’s not let’s actually do a
01:15:31 careful reading of it for behold the
01:15:33 southern states shall be divided again
01:15:35 against the northern states and the
01:15:37 southern states shall call on other
01:15:38 nations and even the nation of Great
01:15:41 Britain as it is called and they sh and
01:15:44 they Great Britain shall also call upon
01:15:47 other nations in order to defend
01:15:50 themselves against other
01:15:52 nations that’s that did not happen in
01:15:55 the Civil
01:15:59 War there is a portion that does sound
01:16:02 like the Civil War and this is what is
01:16:06 proof texting you take a little bit to
01:16:09 go what you think it is instead of the
01:16:11 whole the whole does not match the Civil
01:16:15 War in order to defend themselves
01:16:17 against other nation and then War shall
01:16:19 be poured out upon All Nations
01:16:26 and
01:16:27 so
01:16:30 um what we’re
01:16:32 seeing the um so there’s also one thing
01:16:37 verse four uh although the Civil War was
01:16:40 partly about
01:16:42 slavery they’re not the ones that
01:16:44 started it where in verse four it brings
01:16:47 out us something different right yeah
01:16:50 but but but okay but if you’re going to
01:16:51 read it but if you’re going to read it
01:16:53 context with the verses above it then
01:16:56 that can’t have anything to do with
01:16:59 freeing the slaves because it shall come
01:17:02 to pass after many
01:17:05 days Slaves Shall rise up against their
01:17:08 masters there shall be Marshal and
01:17:09 disciplined for war when the uh when the
01:17:13 um when the slaves joined the union they
01:17:16 weren’t NE they weren’t rising up
01:17:18 against their
01:17:19 masters
01:17:21 nope the
01:17:24 service but anyway the slaves rising up
01:17:28 against their masters will be those
01:17:30 fighting in the second American Civil
01:17:33 War second and third American Civil
01:17:38 Wars in which this nation falls into
01:17:41 chaos that’s actually the reason why
01:17:43 they’re setting up these wars now in
01:17:45 Ukraine Israel Israel is with ir the war
01:17:50 in Israel for America is with Iran
01:17:54 um so it’s a three front War Russia Iran
01:17:59 and
01:17:59 China which will break the American
01:18:04 economy and cause it to fall apart which
01:18:07 will um which they’re planning to do and
01:18:11 you can see and there are and there are
01:18:14 things and and there are things
01:18:16 happening in the political circumstance
01:18:18 and the political situation which are
01:18:21 pointing which are pointing
01:18:24 to
01:18:26 um a deliberate circumvention of even
01:18:29 the
01:18:30 illusion of
01:18:32 democracy which will result in the
01:18:36 shredding of the social
01:18:42 contract um and so so we which will
01:18:47 result in an every man for himself Civil
01:18:50 War um I do I do particularly see if
01:18:56 especially if
01:18:58 um especially if some of the some of the
01:19:01 things I’ve heard about what the
01:19:02 Democrats plan to do pan
01:19:05 out
01:19:08 um I can see the South
01:19:11 seceding once
01:19:14 again and uh this isn’t a personal
01:19:17 opinion of mine I do think these
01:19:20 circumstances leads up to the roaring
01:19:22 lions in third
01:19:24 Nephi I think it’s 20 2ish in that
01:19:29 area um which will be part of setting up
01:19:33 Z so
01:19:35 anyways so the thing and so that’s so th
01:19:40 this is this is what that is where we
01:19:43 are in the prophecy right now we have
01:19:45 the
01:19:46 uh we have the two
01:19:50 feathers that are under
01:19:53 the right
01:19:54 wing that have relocated themselves that
01:19:57 are trying that are rising up against
01:20:00 the the Roman the Western
01:20:03 hegemony and you have the four feathers
01:20:05 that remain under the Western
01:20:08 hegemony um the first one to fall will
01:20:12 be uh the first one to fall will be
01:20:14 America the second one to fall will be
01:20:16 Great
01:20:20 Britain that’s why we read the that’s
01:20:22 why you read those first three verses
01:20:24 the second to fall would be Great
01:20:25 Britain oh okay uh because here it’s
01:20:28 saying it it needs help yeah it needs
01:20:31 help okay and the facts of the matter
01:20:33 are if you’re actually paying attention
01:20:35 to the things going on out out and
01:20:37 around the world Great Britain is
01:20:38 actually already in a state of needing
01:20:40 help sure sure which I would imagine the
01:20:43 brick economically at least economically
01:20:45 yeah which the brick Tex helped out with
01:20:48 that right yeah the brexit the brexit
01:20:50 really uh or did I say it right anyways
01:20:53 when Britain broke from the European
01:20:55 Union yeah yeah yeah so you know while
01:21:00 it doesn’t seem like it would be
01:21:01 particularly spiritual to talk about
01:21:03 political circumstances the facts of the
01:21:05 matter
01:21:06 are we’re what we’re talking about here
01:21:09 is actually the sun is what we’re
01:21:11 actually talking about here is signs
01:21:13 that are coming to place that are that
01:21:15 are coming into place right before our
01:21:19 eyes interesting and you know it’s uh as
01:21:23 I’ve been keeping track of current
01:21:25 events it’s almost like watching a train
01:21:28 wreck in slow motion
01:21:31 um there’s nothing you can do about it
01:21:33 and also I will say it’s like they’re
01:21:35 doing it on purpose also yeah well they
01:21:38 are they are doing
01:21:42 it they are doing it on purpose it’s in
01:21:45 this period of time that it actually
01:21:47 kind of hurts to be
01:21:49 aware
01:21:51 yeah because you can see what’s coming
01:21:54 you know how horrible you know the only
01:21:56 thing you can do yeah you know the only
01:21:58 thing you can do is whatever the spirit
01:22:01 is whatever you’re direct whatever you
01:22:03 feel directed to do whatever you feel
01:22:05 directed to do under the law to prepare
01:22:08 um right for events as they will unfold
01:22:11 and the biggest preparation that we have
01:22:13 to
01:22:15 make for these events as they
01:22:21 unfold is to make our hearts right with
01:22:25 Yeshua yeah because if our hearts are
01:22:28 right with Yeshua the worst that’ll
01:22:30 happen to us is that we get pulled out
01:22:33 from under the Altar and given a white
01:22:36 robe y y exactly allowed to rest
01:22:43 yep
01:22:48 until the final
01:22:51 martyrdom
01:22:53 so do you think there’ll be a year or
01:22:55 two of Peace in there before that the
01:22:59 final I think I think we’re currently I
01:23:02 think we’re currently in the time of
01:23:04 Peace before the storm yeah the time of
01:23:07 relative peace before the
01:23:08 storm things are going to get worse from
01:23:16 here things are going to get worse from
01:23:19 here
01:23:21 pray
01:23:24 study your
01:23:25 scriptures see
01:23:28 how God prepared Israel for things to
01:23:33 come and go and do thou
01:23:45 likewise that would be my that would be
01:23:48 my word of advice for any and everybody
01:23:51 read your scripture
01:23:53 study your scriptures specifically to
01:23:55 know how God prepared his
01:23:57 people and on studying the scriptures I
01:24:00 will add
01:24:02 contemplate uh contemplatively yes thank
01:24:07 you in trying to see what they’re
01:24:10 actually saying and not what you want
01:24:13 them to say okay right um as in
01:24:17 including the whole verse and not just
01:24:20 portions of it for example ex Le and I
01:24:24 would also
01:24:25 recommend uh looking up words in the
01:24:28 1828 dictionary even ones you think you
01:24:31 know what they mean because there’s more
01:24:34 definitions than you probably are aware
01:24:36 of and some of them maybe and some of
01:24:38 them may even be
01:24:40 helpful uh I’ll tell you in my study a
01:24:43 lot of them have
01:24:45 been yeah I yeah I agree yeah I agree
01:24:50 it’s good to know your it’s good to know
01:24:51 your words good to uh good to learn your
01:24:54 words uh yeah Ben knows more than I do
01:24:58 on words so he would say that but uh
01:25:01 just heckling them a little bit but I
01:25:03 would say on the one even ones that you
01:25:05 think you know what they mean look them
01:25:07 up you may be surprised you may you may
01:25:11 know the modern definition but you don’t
01:25:13 know the 1828 definition which is the
01:25:16 closest version of the Webster’s
01:25:17 Dictionary to when the Book of Mormon
01:25:19 was actually published so right right
01:25:21 well and you may know the default one or
01:25:24 the typical or primary one but you may
01:25:26 not know them all correct yep as we’ve
01:25:30 gone in other over other times looking
01:25:33 at the definition of uh genology is
01:25:36 interesting and helps resolve issues
01:25:39 that people try to place that no longer
01:25:43 apply if people knew the additional
01:25:45 definitions right
01:25:49 but and so and so what this uh so like
01:25:53 what like I was saying what this what
01:25:55 Ezra’s Eagle
01:25:58 details is the rise of the fifth Kingdom
01:26:03 and its fall yeah the fall the bottom
01:26:07 and its fall seven years later at the
01:26:10 hands of Yeshua
01:26:12 hamia through two servants
01:26:18 yeah that is you kind of see that stuff
01:26:20 going on here at the bottom I don’t know
01:26:22 I’ve been once yeah yeah so let’s let’s
01:26:25 look at that let’s look at the Judgment
01:26:27 that is passed on um the the Judgment
01:26:31 that is passed on Rome in the fifth
01:26:34 Kingdom for the Earth hast thou not
01:26:37 judged with
01:26:38 truth how many times do we hear this
01:26:41 accusation voiced in
01:26:44 Isaiah
01:26:46 yeah for thou Hast Afflicted the
01:26:51 meek and the meek are those he also
01:26:55 persecuted the
01:27:00 Saints
01:27:03 yeah thou Hast hurt the Peaceable thou
01:27:06 Hast in other words thou Hast hurt the
01:27:09 men of
01:27:10 Shalom
01:27:12 yeah the men of
01:27:14 completeness thou loved dishonest people
01:27:18 thou Hast loved liars and destroyed the
01:27:22 dwellings of them that brought forth
01:27:25 fruit AKA keeping Torah that’s what that
01:27:29 and also this hides back to those verses
01:27:32 in Revelation which says that the Beast
01:27:34 was given power was get that the Beast
01:27:37 waged War upon the Saints and overcame
01:27:42 them because sadly some are going to die
01:27:45 as Revelation brings out right but if
01:27:48 they’re they will truly if they’re truly
01:27:52 Saints then the worst they the worst
01:27:54 that can happen is they get a white they
01:27:56 get pulled out from under the Altar and
01:27:58 get a white robe and told to rest sure
01:28:00 sure they will have their crown and they
01:28:03 will come back down soon even as the
01:28:06 Book of Revelation States also and as
01:28:08 the book of First Thessalonians States
01:28:11 they will
01:28:15 with with those Sanctified Who
01:28:19 Remain there you go um there a jst but
01:28:22 it’s not a big deal so we can just go
01:28:24 with this unless you want me to bring it
01:28:25 up no no it’s fine for the Lord
01:28:29 himself okay where are we now okay oh I
01:28:33 had it up so for the Lord himself shall
01:28:36 descend from heaven with a shout and
01:28:39 with the voice of the Archangel and with
01:28:41 the Trump of God shouts of acclamation
01:28:44 trump the sound of the Trump and the
01:28:46 dead in Christ shall rise first then we
01:28:50 which are alive and remain
01:28:52 shall be caught up together with them in
01:28:54 the clouds to meet the Lord in the
01:29:00 air is that when the tears are separated
01:29:03 from the wheat yeah this is the wheat
01:29:08 are gathered up right right but the
01:29:10 tears are staying down and then the next
01:29:15 day the tears will be burned with fire
01:29:19 and brimstone okay but what I what what
01:29:21 I want to focus on is the promise that
01:29:23 is there for those of us who are true
01:29:27 and
01:29:29 faithful then which we which are
01:29:33 alive in order to be alive in Christ we
01:29:36 have to keep
01:29:38 Torah
01:29:40 yes otherwise we are dead in sin we are
01:29:45 under and we are under the penalty of
01:29:48 the law this is why Paul will say the
01:29:52 dead are baptized because it’s the
01:29:55 Sinners who are
01:29:57 dead a phys spiritually dead that need
01:30:00 to be baptized which um I’ll tell you I
01:30:04 have sinned and shall fall in short of
01:30:07 the glory of God so I’ve needed that but
01:30:11 yep as Yeshua commanded us though to be
01:30:13 perfect which is another way of saying
01:30:15 Sanctified which I can show from the
01:30:17 scriptures um which is keeping Torah it
01:30:20 is possible to keep it here on forward
01:30:24 despite the fact that we didn’t in the
01:30:26 past then these words are so loaded then
01:30:31 we which are alive especially when you
01:30:33 go back to original text then we which
01:30:35 are alive keeping Torah and remain I.E
01:30:38 the meek resting in Torah living in
01:30:41 Torah living in the spirit Walking with
01:30:46 God shall be caught up together with
01:30:49 them in the clouds to meet the Lord in
01:30:52 the air and so shall we be so shall we
01:30:55 ever be with the Lord for his image will
01:30:57 be in our countenance and his law
01:30:59 written Upon Our
01:31:01 Hearts and we will be one with him
01:31:05 forever more through his ways not our
01:31:08 own ways
01:31:10 we in the same way that he and the
01:31:12 father in the same in the same way that
01:31:15 he and the father are one the
01:31:19 mind and the mind points to his Torah
01:31:22 his law his
01:31:23 will yep his plan so this is the hope
01:31:29 that
01:31:31 persists and I want to I want to end
01:31:34 with that last verse of chapter 11 and
01:31:37 second
01:31:39 Eis okay uh there we
01:31:42 go um that all the Earth may be
01:31:47 refreshed a new Heaven and a new Earth
01:31:52 and may
01:31:55 return that all the Earth May return May
01:31:59 repent
01:32:02 become being delivered from thy
01:32:07 violence that she may hope for the
01:32:09 Judgment mercy of him that made
01:32:11 her which uh the sons of preditions will
01:32:17 be
01:32:18 destroyed and so uh during the fire and
01:32:21 Brim stone that the mighty strongman
01:32:23 will cause so this is lots of scriptures
01:32:27 and this is when the earth will have
01:32:29 rest when the secret combination is
01:32:32 finally put to rest under the
01:32:37 Earth uh literally they will be in Hell
01:32:42 stoned
01:32:44 yes under Earth however you want to look
01:32:47 at it
01:32:48 yes so anyways
01:32:54 so that is so that’s that’s what that’s
01:32:57 what I want you to want to leave you
01:32:59 with this prophecy while it’s
01:33:02 about the works of wickedness it’s from
01:33:05 the
01:33:09 perspective
01:33:10 that yeh yeh Yeshua is in
01:33:15 control he knows what’s going on and he
01:33:18 knows what’s going on and he will render
01:33:21 judgment upon all of these people for
01:33:24 all of their Wicked Ways
01:33:28 yes so what we and they know it’s coming
01:33:31 they’re scared um because they even have
01:33:34 telescopes to watch for this stuff
01:33:37 called uh
01:33:38 Lucifer right watching out for what they
01:33:41 know is coming so the best the biggest
01:33:46 thing that we need to
01:33:50 do
01:33:52 is to make sure that our hearts are
01:33:53 right yeah to make sure that our hearts
01:33:57 and our hands are clean and
01:34:01 pure that we that that our garments are
01:34:06 not stained with the blood of this the
01:34:09 blood and sins of this
01:34:15 generation
01:34:19 especially well especially those of us
01:34:23 who believe especially those of us who
01:34:25 claim to hold the holy
01:34:32 priesthood we have to come out from
01:34:34 under the blood and sins of this
01:34:36 generation yeah and start doing our job
01:34:40 in calling repentance right bringing
01:34:42 people back to yahweh’s
01:34:44 way to make his path
01:34:48 straight not crooked and changing and
01:34:52 windy but narrow and
01:34:56 straight or process it I mean we don’t
01:34:59 we don’t we’re not on this path that
01:35:01 goes winds around a mountain and goes up
01:35:05 and up and up and ever upward and then
01:35:07 you end in the
01:35:09 temple no that’s windy okay I thought oh
01:35:15 I know but I I thought you ended up in
01:35:17 the only in the temple parking lot you
01:35:18 still have to get out of your car and
01:35:20 walk in
01:35:22 oh well that’s too much
01:35:24 work well you know in the Salt Lake in
01:35:27 the Salt Lake Temple you do wind up
01:35:30 circle like the um yeah I’ll just leave
01:35:34 it at that it it winds up yeah anyways
01:35:39 the Manti Temple has one like has a
01:35:41 stair like that too yeah yeah uh yeah
01:35:44 but people don’t get to use that but in
01:35:46 the Salt Lake Temple they are literally
01:35:48 going from room to room in a spiral
01:35:51 fashion
01:35:52 that’s really funny right
01:35:54 there oh I think it was on purpose I
01:35:57 don’t I find it not funny actually but
01:36:00 anyways find it diabolical I find it
01:36:03 diabolical actually right yeah so not to
01:36:07 mention the goddess of sex at the
01:36:11 veil yeah Venus at the veil yeah yeah
01:36:15 right at the veil
01:36:18 anyways uh so I hope that that
01:36:22 that what I put forward was
01:36:25 uh was helpful in helping people come to
01:36:28 a more appropriate and correct
01:36:31 understanding um
01:36:34 of ous eagle of as of as of of a
01:36:39 prophecy that I have come to
01:36:42 Value
01:36:44 um especially as I gave
01:36:47 up uh false interpretations on it
01:36:50 because like I said
01:36:52 I was just as deceived as many
01:36:55 people with regards to this
01:37:00 prophecy but the more I learned the law
01:37:03 the more I learned of the
01:37:05 law the more I learned about what was
01:37:08 what this prophecy was actually about
01:37:10 because if you take a look at those
01:37:11 judgments that are put forward right
01:37:13 there at the very end it’s all about the
01:37:17 law right in addition in support of what
01:37:20 Ben is saying if you go look at Elma 129
01:37:24 through 11 it does specifically State
01:37:28 the more you keep yahweh’s law the more
01:37:31 he will give you
01:37:34 right so uh I I hope that that was
01:37:37 useful for everybody um but that’s what
01:37:40 I that’s what I had to present on well
01:37:44 makes sense to me that’s good uh it
01:37:47 makes sense to me and Ben gave a little
01:37:49 bit more than I knew that we’ve gone
01:37:51 over before with some of Josh’s
01:37:54 questions so thank you for asking Josh
01:37:57 yeah so but there are a lot of
01:38:00 connections there that I think are uh
01:38:04 hopefully once you see a better
01:38:08 interpretation it makes a lot more sense
01:38:10 it makes it all fit together more and
01:38:12 you can see why the false one is
01:38:15 false
01:38:18 yeah yeah
01:38:21 so with that I’m going to
01:38:26 pause