Summary:
Genesis (JST 2:8) (KJV 2:7) is like John 7:17. Nose has to do with trust. When Pinocchio lies, he is stretching the trust people have in him. Forming is changing or in other words becoming. Dust is Satan’s domain. YHWH is taking men out of Satan’s domain and helping them become like Him, when they show trust in Him by becoming like Him, He will give His Torah and eternal life. Literally happened, but it’s more important what it teaches. If you want to know if the doctrine is true, then live it and find out. Whether I speak of myself goes along with the dust. Though the nose because of the trust. Eternal life and sanctification are two ways of saying the same thing. Adam trusted YHWH. How and why Adam did things teaches us about Yeshua. In that Yeshua took upon us our sins to keep us together. Yeshua commanding us to be perfect is a commandment to be sanctified because perfect point us to YHWH’s perfect law aka Torah. “Or” should be read as “also known as”. Doctrine of the Messiah and the three baptisms. Find teaches that keep Torah. The spirit / behavior you have when you die, is the spirit / behavior in the resurrection. If you have actually repented, you will feel joy. Gentiles will realize they have inherited lies. Profit points to Torah. Faith is trust and diligence. James is bringing out how people are claiming to have faith when they actually didn’t have it. Only you can decide you don’t want to be saved anymore.
Links:
- Scripture Tool Box: Genesis 2
- Lectures on Faith 2
- Lectures on Faith 5
- All Things You Should DO
- Baptism for the Dead
Transcript:
00:00:02 okay so today I thought I would share
00:00:05 something from some studies I did from
00:00:07 Genesis not too long ago specifically
00:00:10 Genesis 2 and this is inspired version 8
00:00:15 or King James 7 so um let’s just start
00:00:19 off with reading it um so Zach will you
00:00:24 read um the highlighted one for us real
00:00:27 quick
00:00:34 and i y y him for man from the dust of
00:00:39 the ground and breathed into his
00:00:41 nostrils the breath of life and Man
00:00:44 became a living Soul the first flesh
00:00:46 upon the Earth the first man also okay
00:00:50 so I do believe this happened but I also
00:00:53 believe that the way it’s presented is
00:00:56 to te teach us some deeper truths okay
00:01:00 so we could do a couple things um and
00:01:03 I’ll just tell you what I see okay and
00:01:06 then we’ll get into the details okay
00:01:09 okay this is uh a statement that’s very
00:01:12 much like John
00:01:15 717 okay and we’ll get into the details
00:01:18 why but let’s go read that
00:01:20 verse uh Ben will you read that for
00:01:24 us if any man will do his will he shall
00:01:27 know of the doctrine whether he whether
00:01:29 whether it be of whether it be of Elohim
00:01:32 or whether I speak of myself now this is
00:01:35 yua speaking but as in just some man is
00:01:38 what is bringing out there on this
00:01:40 myself right just some person um so now
00:01:45 let’s get into it um let’s go back to
00:01:50 the GST so this
00:01:52 site um it does show us the additions
00:01:57 and the subtractions which is nice right
00:02:00 right um it’s very helpful so but
00:02:03 anyways the one thing that let’s bring
00:02:05 out is nostrils
00:02:09 okay uh and so that has to do with the
00:02:11 nose and the nose has to do with trust
00:02:15 okay so when Pinocchio lies he’s
00:02:19 stretching people’s trust in them that’s
00:02:22 why his nose is
00:02:25 stretching it’s right it’s being very
00:02:28 honest about what’s going on because it
00:02:30 gets harder to believe in him as than to
00:02:32 have trust in him right right
00:02:35 right so here is Elohim he formed a man
00:02:40 let’s go look at the Hebrew word behind
00:02:43 that formed okay okay yep yeah I see
00:02:48 where you’re going with this this is
00:02:51 this is always a good this is always a
00:02:53 good study that that’s yeah so uh the
00:02:59 form or to Fashion so this is definitely
00:03:01 not creating right no go ahead this is
00:03:06 setting to
00:03:08 purpose uh our
00:03:11 um uh the
00:03:15 uh the what a
00:03:20 minut here let me pause while you’re
00:03:22 thinking so you can gather your
00:03:27 thoughts go ahead B okay so the um so
00:03:32 yeah I had just had a just had a little
00:03:35 metal U something my thought fled my
00:03:39 mind but it’s back
00:03:43 um we can’t have been we can’t have been
00:03:47 created we are co-eternal
00:03:50 correct and and when you go actually on
00:03:54 this point if you go look at the Hebrew
00:03:56 words behind the English translations it
00:03:58 actually shows that but that’s another
00:04:01 discussion
00:04:03 right right okay so but yeah so yeah so
00:04:07 that when it when it says to be formed
00:04:10 to something that means um it it’s not a
00:04:14 creation it’s
00:04:18 um it
00:04:20 is a change in the creation a
00:04:24 transformation of the creation to be
00:04:26 perform a transformation of what is
00:04:28 already there being just like clay gets
00:04:31 formed into um
00:04:34 dishes
00:04:36 uh
00:04:38 so uh the substance is already there the
00:04:42 substance is already there and it’s
00:04:44 being
00:04:45 formed right okay gotcha
00:04:48 okay yes uh I I completely agree and
00:04:52 that’s what we’re going to see here um
00:04:56 and so they’re he’s not creating them
00:04:59 he’s forming them and what is he forming
00:05:03 them from the Satan’s domain dust has to
00:05:06 do with Satan’s domain right yes right
00:05:10 and once they’re
00:05:12 formed Right In His Image as in keeping
00:05:17 his
00:05:19 Torah because they he took him from
00:05:22 Satan’s domain which is breaking Torah
00:05:26 he then gave
00:05:28 them Torah
00:05:30 because of their
00:05:32 trust ah and because of that they are
00:05:37 now having eternal
00:05:40 life yes oh
00:05:44 wow oh wow I never even
00:05:48 wow it’s so Yahweh
00:05:54 Elohim taught man to get away from
00:05:59 Satan’s domain breaking the Commandments
00:06:01 and when they actually did that he gave
00:06:03 them Torah because they trusted his
00:06:08 ways and because and because of that
00:06:11 they had eternal life Wow
00:06:15 amen oh
00:06:17 wow I that is reading the symbolism
00:06:21 that’s in there now I do believe this
00:06:25 literally happened but the more
00:06:28 important thing is what it’s actually
00:06:31 teaching
00:06:34 yes
00:06:36 yes more important than whether or not
00:06:38 the Bible is literal history which I
00:06:41 believe that it is it’s a call to it’s a
00:06:44 call to repentance like hey get out of
00:06:46 the
00:06:47 muck get out of the
00:06:50 muck yeah follow my law yeah and you
00:06:54 will have eternal
00:06:57 life yeah yeah
00:07:00 and that very much goes along with John
00:07:03 7:17 not completely but you go look at
00:07:06 other statements from the New Testament
00:07:08 from Yeshua uh if you follow him you
00:07:11 have eternal life right right right so
00:07:14 it’s not just John 717 but it is an
00:07:17 important part of it right yeah uh yeah
00:07:20 John’s John
00:07:21 7:17 uh it uh it states it basically
00:07:27 shows us how we can reinforce that
00:07:30 trust right well it’s yeah it’s it well
00:07:33 it’s basically how we build the trust
00:07:36 yeah yeah because we build the trust
00:07:38 when we
00:07:39 do and we see the fruits then that’s how
00:07:43 our trust builds so let’s go let’s just
00:07:46 for the fun of it let’s go look at John
00:07:48 7:17 again okay and Josh maybe you read
00:07:51 it this time and then and
00:07:54 then not to put on the spot but maybe
00:07:57 you can tell us what you see some more
00:08:00 now if that’s okay sorry
00:08:04 sure all right if any man will do his
00:08:08 will he shall know of the doctrine
00:08:12 whether it be of God or whether I speak
00:08:16 of
00:08:17 myself so Jesus here is obviously saying
00:08:21 look if you really want to
00:08:24 know if this Doctrine is true then live
00:08:27 it
00:08:29 and you will know and you will
00:08:33 know yeah so this part right here if any
00:08:36 man will do his will he’ll do it because
00:08:39 he trusts it which goes along with the
00:08:41 nostril right and then the doctrine goes
00:08:46 along with him
00:08:47 breathing Torah into the nostril correct
00:08:51 well and here is here is the other part
00:08:54 of this um because yes the nostril has
00:08:58 to do with the nose which has do with
00:08:59 trust
00:09:01 but the nostril is also the pathway is
00:09:05 also the inward pathway for error yeah
00:09:09 as into the
00:09:12 bosom where the lungs where which holds
00:09:17 the breath Torah and also re next door
00:09:22 to the heart which is where Torah is
00:09:24 supposed to be written
00:09:27 right so that and is that a coin and is
00:09:31 that symbology of coincidence I think
00:09:34 not I I I don’t think so because we need
00:09:37 and I think that the I think the two
00:09:39 things actually support each other yeah
00:09:43 yeah the these these two aspects of the
00:09:47 nostril support one right now I do I I
00:09:51 agree with Stephen I do believe that
00:09:53 that uh Genesis 2:7 happened literally
00:09:57 but that that is some great SYM ology
00:10:00 right well and then here let me finish a
00:10:02 little bit with uh John 7:17 whether it
00:10:05 be
00:10:06 Elohim so here’s Elohim doing it he’s uh
00:10:10 oh so let’s go back to the
00:10:14 other
00:10:16 um spot sorry so we can see it yeah uh
00:10:20 and then Yahweh Elohim
00:10:23 formed
00:10:27 taught man from the dust so whether it
00:10:31 be of Elohim or whether if I speak of
00:10:33 myself from the dust so this is most
00:10:37 people are just uh speaking
00:10:41 yeah most people are speaking
00:10:43 from the dust yeah yeah yeah which
00:10:46 dust whether I speak in myself
00:10:49 so this is what this oh let me go back
00:10:51 to the other one I can see both but you
00:10:53 guys can’t yeah
00:10:55 yeah yeah um so or whether I speak of
00:11:01 myself so the dust part right the M now
00:11:05 the only thing that I can’t see in John
00:11:08 7:17
00:11:10 personally is a Man became a living Soul
00:11:14 or in other words has eternal life right
00:11:20 but I don’t think
00:11:21 that think that was the message he was
00:11:24 trying to get across in in John 7:17 oh
00:11:27 I agree I do think it’s implied but it’s
00:11:29 not explicitly stated yeah it’s an
00:11:32 implied thing uh from the uh if any man
00:11:36 will do his will he will know he will
00:11:40 know that that this
00:11:42 knowledge is of the things of Elohim it
00:11:45 is not of uh pretend mystery it’s not a
00:11:50 pretend
00:11:51 Mysteries um it’s not out of the mon
00:11:55 right right well and I so like I said
00:11:58 it’s impli
00:12:00 it’s not stated
00:12:02 explicitly no it’s not right and you
00:12:06 know I do think there’s a purpose that
00:12:08 it’s through the nose trust instead of
00:12:11 the
00:12:12 mouth because if anything the mouth
00:12:16 interesting I’d always found it
00:12:18 interesting
00:12:19 that that the word
00:12:23 nostrils was used in that in that verse
00:12:28 like my whole life I always thought it
00:12:30 was
00:12:32 odd to say breathe the breath of life
00:12:35 into his nostrils yeah which is
00:12:39 hopefully which is if you think about it
00:12:43 scientifically it that’s not how that
00:12:45 works you don’t breathe life into
00:12:48 anybody through their nostrils even
00:12:50 people who are doing CPR they
00:12:53 don’t yeah it’s into mou because the
00:12:57 mouth is the largest
00:12:59 um is the
00:13:01 largest um Airway right right now I
00:13:06 believe that’s why I always found it
00:13:08 interesting that that he used the word
00:13:11 or that they used the word nostrils in
00:13:14 that verse and I do believe it’s because
00:13:16 of the imagery that goes along with
00:13:18 nostrils which is trust right you get it
00:13:23 you get the breath Torah after you have
00:13:26 shown your trust which
00:13:29 FYI it’s part of Faith trust it’s
00:13:33 interesting that what does it say it
00:13:35 says they become a living Soul they
00:13:37 become Sanctified yeah which is eternal
00:13:40 life and that’s another good point there
00:13:42 Ben that’s another way of saying
00:13:43 Sanctified yes yes yeah that’s that is
00:13:48 awesome yeah so um just another quick
00:13:53 thing on Genesis 2 because I think we’re
00:13:55 done with that one because it’s not
00:13:56 really long but I do think it’s
00:14:00 but anyways thought it absolutely I
00:14:03 thought it was beautiful um actually
00:14:05 let’s go back here and go because this
00:14:07 there is some that was added or I should
00:14:10 say restored and the first flesh upon
00:14:14 the Earth the first man also so it’s
00:14:17 just bringing out how Adam trusted
00:14:19 Yahweh right right right which actually
00:14:23 hides back to the lectures on
00:14:26 faith um yeah yeah uh lecture two right
00:14:31 yeah how it is that uh man for the most
00:14:35 part receives their
00:14:38 faith first they learn about it from
00:14:40 somebody else which first came through
00:14:42 Adam right right right um and
00:14:47 Adam uh although he
00:14:51 fell he did it with a purpose just like
00:14:55 Yeshua took upon our sins for a purpose
00:15:00 to save
00:15:02 us so that we could stay together just
00:15:05 as Adam did it so that him and Eve could
00:15:08 stay together so going along with the
00:15:10 imagery here is it safe to
00:15:13 say and I and and it’s just a question
00:15:16 I’m not making any definitive statement
00:15:20 here is it could we say just from the
00:15:24 way I’m reading this that Adam was the
00:15:26 first man
00:15:27 Sanctified yes
00:15:29 right
00:15:30 okay
00:15:33 yeah um yeah because that’s kind of with
00:15:37 the symbology and everything that’s kind
00:15:38 of how I was reading it yeah yeah and so
00:15:43 um if we look at a careful looking at
00:15:47 Matthew is it five be there perfect as
00:15:51 my Father in Heaven is perfect oh yeah
00:15:54 one of my favorite verses here let’s go
00:15:56 look at that real quick and then we go
00:15:58 look at
00:15:59 uh 3i
00:16:02 12 it’s uh how he and the father are
00:16:06 perfect let’s just go look at this real
00:16:09 quick uh is it
00:16:13 five yes it’s Matthew 5 oh I’m sharing
00:16:16 the wrong screen sorry guys MTH yeah
00:16:19 Matthew 5 yeah sorry the the verse is
00:16:23 Matthew 548 3 Nephi
00:16:26 1248 okay so B you want to read this
00:16:29 real quick be ye therefore
00:16:33 perfect perfect means sin sinlessly
00:16:36 living
00:16:37 Torah well um I will add something I
00:16:42 agree with that okay but I’m gonna add a
00:16:44 little bit that helps go with this point
00:16:46 in bringing out and have been tested yes
00:16:50 because uh the issue with uh little
00:16:52 children but anyways yes valid point
00:16:56 that’s a valid point and you know Yeshua
00:16:59 couldn’t have lived the law perfectly if
00:17:01 he hadn’t been tested right because he
00:17:04 had to be to to be able to do what he
00:17:06 did he had to go through the test um
00:17:08 which is brought up in lectures on faith
00:17:10 five right right yeah anyways
00:17:14 yeah yeah some at some point I’m gonna
00:17:16 bring that out Matt and I are still
00:17:18 stuck on the fourth lecture on faith but
00:17:20 yeah uh okay well anyways so um we’ll
00:17:25 let
00:17:27 Zach read
00:17:30 1248 same thing but slightly different
00:17:33 in third Nephi 12 if I can get it well
00:17:38 48 I think
00:17:40 right okay so Zach will you read
00:17:47 48 therefore I would that you should be
00:17:50 perfect even as I or your father who is
00:17:54 in heaven as perfect no there there’s a
00:17:57 big difference here he added I where
00:18:01 during his mortal life which is near the
00:18:03 beginning of his mortal Ministry he
00:18:06 didn’t have the eye no he didn’t because
00:18:10 yes so the personage of the son had to
00:18:12 be perfected in the
00:18:14 atonement yeah he had to be tested
00:18:16 through that yes yeah right and then
00:18:18 once that was done he could he could
00:18:22 literally say even as I right right
00:18:26 because he did the test and he passed it
00:18:30 which is
00:18:31 why uh the atonement is effective in
00:18:35 anybody’s life who seeks after it
00:18:39 correct yeah uh Zach did you want to say
00:18:41 something I love the the or he does here
00:18:46 even as I
00:18:48 or otherwise known as your father who is
00:18:51 in heaven yeah yeah um well this is it
00:18:54 the Hebrew word for and can be or so
00:18:59 this is a kind of a tricky one because
00:19:01 it could be
00:19:02 Andor um but it depending on how you
00:19:05 read it it could point to modalism I
00:19:07 guess yeah well I think it does but I’m
00:19:10 a
00:19:11 modalist
00:19:13 yeah like I said there are said Stephen
00:19:16 depending on how you read it there are
00:19:18 people who read that verse and don’t get
00:19:20 that connection but it’s there to be
00:19:23 yeah because it could say uh another way
00:19:26 of reading therefore I would that you
00:19:28 should be perfect even as
00:19:32 I which is also who I am also known as
00:19:36 your
00:19:38 father um but I I understand how some
00:19:41 people AKA your daddy uh yeah yeah
00:19:47 yeah so um Yo
00:19:50 Daddy but anyway anyway so back to the
00:19:53 main thing is after he went through the
00:19:56 tests he got
00:19:58 ifed or perfected which let’s just look
00:20:03 at this a little bit real quick on that
00:20:05 subject if we don’t mind uh sidetracking
00:20:08 a little bit oops I hit the wrong button
00:20:11 sorry guys oh that’s okay I do that
00:20:18 occasionally side tracking is
00:20:22 fine okay
00:20:25 so sanctification has to do with a point
00:20:28 where you’re now actually keeping the
00:20:30 law you have proven you’ve shown that
00:20:32 you’re doing it right so uh I I’ll just
00:20:36 read this and I’ll quote myself is that
00:20:41 is that kind of bad quoting uh quoting
00:20:43 stepen rats uh R Stephen rats quoting
00:20:47 Stephen rats yeah yeah it’s kind of
00:20:49 funny is is that kind of narcissistic
00:20:52 but
00:20:53 [Laughter]
00:20:56 anyways I’m just giving people Ammo To
00:20:58 Go against me so there you go uh as I
00:21:02 see it every part of the doctrine of the
00:21:04 Messiah is connected with his Torah
00:21:07 first in this in a in aism re you repent
00:21:12 and return to his law T because that’s
00:21:15 the definition of repenting I mean
00:21:17 hopefully we don’t have to that’s that’s
00:21:18 number one right yeah and if you’ve
00:21:21 actually really have done that in your
00:21:24 heart and not just with your lips the
00:21:27 baptism of water is a witness of
00:21:29 Covenant already made to keep all of his
00:21:32 Torah okay so now you’re going to go
00:21:35 witness that to everybody so here you do
00:21:38 it in your
00:21:39 heart here you’re witnessing to
00:21:42 everybody right witness to the world
00:21:45 right yeah and then Yahweh will witness
00:21:48 to you if you really did do it in your
00:21:50 heart baptism of fire as a witness you
00:21:53 have been judged and found with a broken
00:21:55 heart and contrite spirit which are two
00:21:58 uh Hebrew idioms basically meaning
00:22:00 repenting and you are then cleansed of
00:22:03 your past sins and have been
00:22:05 justified by Torah because of yeshua’s
00:22:08 merits that’s justification yeah that’s
00:22:11 justification or baptism
00:22:14 the um baptism of fire right now the
00:22:18 thing is I think that a lot of people
00:22:20 get justification and sanctification
00:22:22 mixed up uh yes I think um there’s a lot
00:22:26 of confusion on how there’s three
00:22:28 baptisms as Joseph Smith taught because
00:22:31 there’s a baptism of water baptism of
00:22:34 fire and the baptism of the Holy Spirit
00:22:37 which is Torah right meaning and so this
00:22:40 kism kind of brings this out baptism the
00:22:42 holy spirit is
00:22:44 sanctification by Torah and have it
00:22:46 written on your heart and you seek to
00:22:48 sin no more and have the expressed image
00:22:51 of Yeshua in your countenance so I think
00:22:54 yeah that’s the key part right
00:22:57 there right because even even through
00:23:00 justification right we’re still in the
00:23:02 process of having that law written on
00:23:04 our hearts oh yeah if it’s anything on
00:23:07 our hearts that desire to sin we’ve
00:23:11 managed to root that out oh yeah yeah
00:23:14 well I if it’s anything like my
00:23:16 justification I didn’t even know what
00:23:17 the law really was I mean I may I had
00:23:20 some idea right well you knew it wasn’t
00:23:23 what other people were telling you it
00:23:24 was you knew that at least yes that I
00:23:27 knew but I was still trying to figure
00:23:29 some things out but yeah I’m going to
00:23:32 I’m just going to be straight up and say
00:23:34 that at the time that I was
00:23:37 justified I
00:23:40 didn’t I might have had a pretty decent
00:23:43 book knowledge of the law but in terms
00:23:45 of actually how it actually impacted me
00:23:48 or how to observe it how to make that
00:23:52 book knowledge hit the road I I didn’t
00:23:55 know but yeah well and that that’s
00:23:59 fine
00:24:00 um this is where you then have to go get
00:24:03 good teachers but so uh which goes along
00:24:07 with acts 15 and many others but in and
00:24:10 and also the second lecture on faith is
00:24:13 because this yes and I think it’s
00:24:16 mosiah I could find it quickly if you
00:24:19 want about finding teachers who keep
00:24:21 Torah and anyways it’s later Mah um but
00:24:25 here the one thing I want to focus on
00:24:27 here you made a
00:24:29 covenant to repent and return to his law
00:24:34 yep yes uh and down here you have
00:24:38 actually finally done it right it took
00:24:43 time yeah it’s it’s a process right and
00:24:47 and the big thing I want to bring out
00:24:49 especially in yeshua’s case you’re doing
00:24:52 it even when it’s hard right right which
00:24:56 I think is beautiful because it Al
00:24:58 brings out it also brings out the the uh
00:25:02 verses that have been that I that I
00:25:06 personally like uh about that Express
00:25:10 now is the time this life is the time
00:25:14 for men to prepare to meet God now it’s
00:25:18 not after you die wait what well no you
00:25:23 don’t have an eternity after you die to
00:25:24 figure this out no no it’s too late
00:25:28 because when you’re dead as far as I
00:25:29 know you’re just
00:25:31 dead uh yeah yeah and and on top of that
00:25:34 that’s until the resurrection but we’re
00:25:36 told in the scriptures that this
00:25:39 Behavior oh oh sorry spirit that you
00:25:43 have when you die is the same behavior
00:25:45 you’ll have when you’re resurrected
00:25:47 right because that’s who you are
00:25:50 yeah you you are who you are and you are
00:25:54 who you made
00:25:55 yourself and there’s multiple scriptures
00:25:59 that bring out how Yahweh will make sure
00:26:03 you have enough time for you to be able
00:26:05 to decide yes um what you want to be so
00:26:12 this is my baptism for the dead Resource
00:26:14 page and I we don’t have to go through
00:26:16 them but anyways I have uh some quick
00:26:19 ones here at the top and then I have
00:26:21 references to more an expounding of
00:26:25 others so that a lot of people try to
00:26:28 twist so
00:26:30 anyways yeah I think and that’s and
00:26:33 that’s important um oh I like that one
00:26:37 second Nephi yep yep yep oh you want to
00:26:39 read it then since you like it yeah yeah
00:26:42 and the days of the children of men were
00:26:45 prolonged wait what meaning he made it
00:26:48 longer yeah according to the will of
00:26:54 Elohim wait a why did he make it longer
00:26:59 because it was his will anyways um why
00:27:02 but that oh that they might that they
00:27:04 might repent while in the flesh oh
00:27:11 mortality yeah the day of this life is
00:27:15 the time for men to prepare to meet El
00:27:20 oh come on are you saying those are
00:27:22 saying the same thing there Ben
00:27:26 yes I might be dra some kind of
00:27:29 tangential connection yes oh and I agree
00:27:32 with it I’m just
00:27:35 being look stop using those dime words
00:27:40 okay anyways wherefore
00:27:45 wherefore their state became a state of
00:27:50 probation oh wait that’s uh testing time
00:27:53 oh wait that reminds me of anyways I’m
00:27:56 going to Sidetrack just one time yeah in
00:27:59 anyways um and their and their time was
00:28:02 lengthened again he says
00:28:05 lengthened according to the
00:28:08 [Music]
00:28:09 Commandments which the Lord God gave
00:28:13 unto the children of men or the which uh
00:28:17 Yahweh Elohim I guess I should say gave
00:28:19 onto the children of men for he gave
00:28:23 Commandment that all men must repent oh
00:28:27 wait wait a minute are you saying we’re
00:28:29 commanded to repent um well I mean it’s
00:28:33 only in the scriptures anyway um so does
00:28:36 that mean that we’re commanded to feel
00:28:38 bad uh no only if that feel bad drives
00:28:42 us to repentance anyways uh so uh in
00:28:45 Elma
00:28:46 42 uh it does bring out how remorse of
00:28:50 conscience is its purpose is to cause
00:28:54 people to repent now with people do that
00:28:57 or not it’s a whole another question
00:28:59 well if they decide to stay in the muck
00:29:01 and the Meer then all they’re ever going
00:29:03 to f is the sorrow for their sins but
00:29:06 they’re not but because they have
00:29:08 decided not to uh repent and take
00:29:11 advantage of the blessing of the
00:29:14 atonement in their lives that is all
00:29:16 they will ever
00:29:17 feel if you have actually really
00:29:20 repented you will feel Joy yes yes
00:29:24 that’s my point is that the the purpose
00:29:28 of Our Lives is not to uh is not to sit
00:29:32 around feeling sorry because we’re not
00:29:34 perfect like God and never do anything
00:29:36 about it well we can be perf him as he
00:29:40 commanded or or like Elder Holland of
00:29:44 the q15 be therefore perfect
00:29:47 eventually oh those guys make me sick
00:29:50 but anyways my skin crawl actually but
00:29:53 anyway um Yahweh said we can be perfect
00:29:56 and he provides a way way and it’s to be
00:29:59 done in this life as in we’re this is
00:30:01 the time this verse has clearly stated
00:30:05 yeah clearly there’s no ambiguity no um
00:30:11 yeah anyways see Ben I can use dime
00:30:14 words too there we
00:30:16 go it’s uh yeah I mean I I was just
00:30:21 trying I was just trying to be I was
00:30:23 just trying to be silly and sarcastic a
00:30:25 little bit but yeah me too
00:30:28 but but no but really there’s no
00:30:30 ambiguity here there’s no there’s no
00:30:32 there’s no room for second guessing it’s
00:30:35 not it’s not some Grand mystery that we
00:30:38 can’t possibly understand that we have
00:30:40 to wait till the second coming to figure
00:30:42 out
00:30:43 no it’s throughout the scriptures if you
00:30:47 don’t understand it it’s because you’re
00:30:49 not following y way it’s just well and
00:30:53 it’s number number one it’s because
00:30:57 you’re not following
00:30:58 number two it could also be a good it
00:31:02 could be it could also be a a dose of
00:31:05 good oldfashioned
00:31:07 laziness well yeah Andor that you’re um
00:31:11 listening to the wrong teachers even
00:31:13 though or or it could just be slothful
00:31:17 ignorance yeah yeah but ultimately you
00:31:21 have to take responsibility um for oh
00:31:24 yeah and if you don’t take
00:31:25 responsibility of it here during this
00:31:27 life um you’ll be made to take
00:31:30 responsibility Hereafter oh yeah yeah uh
00:31:33 and just because you were deceived
00:31:36 doesn’t mean you’re exempt doesn’t give
00:31:38 you the free pass sorry buddy oh Eve was
00:31:41 deceived and she still had punishments
00:31:43 so yeah everybody else yeah so yeah
00:31:46 anyways so you want to finish the which
00:31:48 is which is yeah for he for he he showed
00:31:51 unto all men that they were lost because
00:31:55 of the transgression of their
00:31:58 parents
00:32:01 yeah yep I love that verse that’s that
00:32:05 that’s another one of my favorite verses
00:32:07 in the now the interest the the thing
00:32:10 that we need to bear in mind is what
00:32:12 that is what that
00:32:14 is what it is saying and what it’s not
00:32:18 saying we’re lost because of the
00:32:20 transgression of our parents but we are
00:32:22 not held responsible for the
00:32:25 transgression of our parents uh sure
00:32:28 sure I completely agree we’re held
00:32:29 responsible for our own transgressions
00:32:32 yes and we have enough of those to worry
00:32:34 about yeah yeah you’re right right but
00:32:36 because of the false traditions of our
00:32:38 parents we’re we are confused about what
00:32:42 is right and
00:32:43 wrong start we are lost right Ben I mean
00:32:47 all of us inherited
00:32:49 lies yeah yeah in fact let’s go look at
00:32:51 that verse real quick yeah yeah yeah uh
00:32:54 because that’s a good one right yes it
00:32:57 is
00:32:58 the Gentiles will realize that they’ve
00:33:00 inherited lies and that definitely has
00:33:02 not happened to this
00:33:03 point no as a matter of fact they’re
00:33:07 they seem to be doubling down here you
00:33:09 go uh you want to read those Ben
00:33:15 okay oh y my strength and my and my
00:33:20 Fortress and my refuge in the city in
00:33:24 the day of Affliction the Gentiles shall
00:33:27 come unto thee from the ends of the
00:33:29 Earth and shall say surely our fathers
00:33:31 have inherited lies vanity and things
00:33:35 wherein there is no Prophet that is a
00:33:38 prophecy if there ever was one uh yes
00:33:41 and it’s um well we you have to say that
00:33:44 it’s a prophecy because because it is in
00:33:47 the future because it hasn’t happened
00:33:49 yet the Gentiles may have flocked the
00:33:53 Gentiles may have flocked to Christ at
00:33:55 the at his coming
00:33:59 but
00:34:00 um then they turned his word into a lie
00:34:04 right right well this is more in my
00:34:06 honest opinion this has more to do with
00:34:09 Zion and also um after uh the
00:34:15 destruction when the mighty and strong
00:34:17 one is going to be doing missionary work
00:34:20 oh by the way that whole thing about um
00:34:24 surely our fathers have inherited lies
00:34:26 faily and things
00:34:28 oh can you go back to that for a second
00:34:30 uh sure sure sure okay I’ll go
00:34:33 back there you go uh wherein there is no
00:34:36 prophet and when you read the Proverbs
00:34:39 those things in which there is Prophet
00:34:41 is Torah period end of
00:34:45 story so this is actually referring to
00:34:49 the lies about Torah being
00:34:53 dead uh I agree I
00:34:56 agree uh
00:34:58 and so that that that word link there of
00:35:02 things which there is no profit is the
00:35:06 key it’s the key do you remember a verse
00:35:09 that we can show so people can
00:35:12 see here let’s pause and let’s see if
00:35:15 you can find I wasn’t S I was actually
00:35:18 talking about people I don’t know that
00:35:20 there’s a verse that actually
00:35:23 States okay that actually states that
00:35:27 the Torah is dead word no no word
00:35:31 Prophet go what part of this do we need
00:35:33 to back up what I I word profit points
00:35:36 to keeping Torah oh prophit to Torah
00:35:40 okay okay so let me pause while you go
00:35:42 find
00:35:45 it okay so we found some verses uh using
00:35:49 a tool I wrote but um we’ll let uh Ben
00:35:53 and Josh read the ones that they like
00:35:56 okay okay this has to do with Prophet
00:35:59 pointing to Torah okay yes so let’s go
00:36:03 back and let’s go on this list go up to
00:36:06 uh Proverbs oh okay all right so we
00:36:10 start we’ll start in Proverbs because
00:36:12 this is where this is this is where a
00:36:15 lot of this come a lot of this
00:36:18 connection comes
00:36:20 from uh Proverbs 102 and Proverbs
00:36:25 11:4 uh Treasures of wickedness profit
00:36:29 nothing but righteousness delivereth
00:36:32 from Death righteousness delivereth from
00:36:35 Death righteousness is Torah why because
00:36:39 Yeshua is righteousness and he is the
00:36:42 personification of Torah therefore Torah
00:36:45 is righteousness Torah is right right
00:36:47 and then also it just brings out how the
00:36:49 wickedness don’t profit yes and the ways
00:36:53 the and those and it it puts the two in
00:36:57 direct opposition to each other yes
00:37:01 right uh so this is the Gentiles
00:37:04 inheriting things that are of no profit
00:37:07 where which are things against Torah
00:37:11 which are things against Torah yeah
00:37:14 Proverbs 11:4 riches profit not in the
00:37:17 day of Wrath but righteousness
00:37:20 delivereth from Death again Torah
00:37:22 deliver from Death Torah is the pro
00:37:24 Torah is what profit is what profits us
00:37:27 riches everything that we acquire in
00:37:30 this life while it really can make life
00:37:32 a lot better and more pleasant and
00:37:36 wonderful it doesn’t matter it won’t
00:37:38 profit Us in the day of in the day of
00:37:40 Wrath right right which is Judgment Day
00:37:45 just yes to make that clear right that’s
00:37:48 Judgment Day so if we could go down
00:37:50 Isaiah Isaiah chapter 48 okay yep and
00:37:56 here this is Yeshua in the Book of
00:37:59 Mormon and third Nephi tells us that we
00:38:01 need to pay special attention to the
00:38:03 words of
00:38:05 Isaiah and this is what Isaiah has to
00:38:08 say about
00:38:11 Torah about God teaching us to profit
00:38:15 and the way and teaching us the way that
00:38:16 we should go thus sayith
00:38:20 yah thy
00:38:24 Redeemer the Holy One of Israel
00:38:28 that’s modalism right
00:38:30 there because he’s applying all those
00:38:32 titles to the same person y I am Y
00:38:39 elim which teacheth thee to
00:38:41 profit oh wait wait I’m GNA stop you
00:38:44 there he teaches Torah but here he’s
00:38:47 calling it Prophet well this is this is
00:38:51 how which teacheth thee to profit which
00:38:54 leadeth thee by the way that thou
00:38:56 shouldst go that was why Torah was given
00:38:58 to lead us so the teaching them the
00:39:01 prophet is teaching them the way that
00:39:03 they should go yeah IE Torah he’s
00:39:07 doubling down he’s
00:39:10 reinforcing yeah and the greatest
00:39:13 Prophet is eternal
00:39:15 life of course and then in Isaiah 5712
00:39:20 it talks about I will declare thy
00:39:22 righteousness as opposed to his
00:39:24 righteousness and thy works as opposed
00:39:26 to his work works for they shall not
00:39:30 profit thee yeah this is talking about
00:39:32 Wicked people we have inherited lies and
00:39:36 things that do not
00:39:39 profit so let’s go back just so we can
00:39:42 review a little bit real
00:39:44 quick so they can see
00:39:46 it all right right
00:39:49 there boom there it
00:39:54 is and uh yeah I’ll let I’ll
00:39:57 re
00:39:59 James I’m talking too
00:40:02 much no you’re not let me go but I’ll
00:40:05 read James
00:40:06 sure so uh James two there we
00:40:13 go where at oh James yeah James 2
00:40:17 chapter
00:40:17 14 what doth it profit my brethren
00:40:21 though a man say he hath faith and have
00:40:24 not works and Faith save him
00:40:27 [Music]
00:40:28 well here is saying if you so first of
00:40:31 all is Define faith faith is trust and
00:40:33 diligence right trust isn’t believing in
00:40:36 the promises and diligence is doing the
00:40:39 work now the way that faith is being
00:40:42 used here in this chapter he’s kind of
00:40:46 um
00:40:48 he’s he’s kind he’s kind of using the
00:40:52 mental um he’s kind of using the um well
00:40:57 look here he I think he knows the
00:41:00 definition but he brings out some
00:41:02 clarification though a man say he have
00:41:06 faith and not have Works he’s he’s
00:41:08 saying they’re claiming it with their
00:41:11 lips and not do are far from yeah there
00:41:14 you go can this Faith claimed with your
00:41:17 lips save you is what he’s saying yeah
00:41:20 if you think about it this actually ties
00:41:23 back
00:41:24 in to where we started this is beautiful
00:41:29 this ties back into the verse that we
00:41:30 started with in Genesis chter 2 verse
00:41:34 7 think about it yeah let’s go review it
00:41:38 real
00:41:39 [Music]
00:41:42 quick that one but we’re going to go
00:41:45 here and we’ll read in the jst uh Zach
00:41:47 will you read it for us this guy that
00:41:49 I’m
00:41:52 highlighting and I Elohim for
00:41:59 formed man from the dust of the ground
00:42:02 breathe into his nostrils the breath of
00:42:04 life and Man became a living Soul the
00:42:07 first flesh upon the Earth the first man
00:42:09 also so this formed has to do with the
00:42:13 actions yep deal the noil has to do with
00:42:17 the trust it has to do with the
00:42:19 transformation that occurs within us mhm
00:42:23 as
00:42:25 we reconcile
00:42:27 ourselves to living in the mind and will
00:42:32 of yah
00:42:36 Elohim that’s what we have to reconcile
00:42:39 ourselves
00:42:41 to that’s the hard part for most people
00:42:45 it th this was the really hard part for
00:42:47 me
00:42:49 because and Josh can attested this I’m
00:42:53 an
00:42:54 independent son of I’m an independent
00:42:57 son of a and nobody’s going to
00:42:58 tell me what to
00:43:01 do yeah that’s
00:43:04 yeah yeah uh except that except
00:43:11 that that doesn’t
00:43:13 work yeah I found out that that doesn’t
00:43:16 work yeah and then I and in my humbled
00:43:22 State having been compelled to be
00:43:25 humble I turned
00:43:28 to
00:43:34 Y well I would say all of us here have
00:43:37 been humbled and have turned to Yahweh
00:43:39 yes I think I think if we’re all honest
00:43:42 with ourselves we’ve all had to be
00:43:44 compelled to be humble at some point
00:43:48 yeah
00:43:50 yeah and so I I just I just I’m just I
00:43:55 thank God yes that he gave me the
00:43:59 opportunity to learn to
00:44:02 trust
00:44:04 yeah and it’s something that we we have
00:44:06 to work on every
00:44:09 day every day yeah and the
00:44:13 diligence
00:44:15 diligence well the diligence the
00:44:18 diligence carries an everyday
00:44:19 application in in and of itself just by
00:44:22 the definition of the word right and
00:44:25 this verse here J 2:14 is bringing out
00:44:29 how it is part of the actual definition
00:44:32 because he’s like they say they have
00:44:35 faith but they really don’t because
00:44:37 they’re not doing Works they’re only
00:44:39 professing with their lips and it’s not
00:44:41 written on their heart right and so so
00:44:45 when uh so when J this is what and this
00:44:49 is what James is referring to when he
00:44:50 says faith without works is dead right
00:44:53 he’s not saying that Faith he doesn’t
00:44:56 he’s not stating that we’re not fa that
00:44:58 we’re not
00:45:01 um he’s stating that that we’re not
00:45:04 saved by our faith in Yeshua unto
00:45:07 repentance he is
00:45:10 stating that that faith has an
00:45:15 element of actually doing what our
00:45:18 father says we’ve been thrown out of the
00:45:21 house we’ve been brought back in by
00:45:23 Grace right
00:45:27 have to and now we get very simply what
00:45:29 James is saying is talk is
00:45:32 cheap yeah that’s a good in today’s
00:45:35 bacular yeah but now we get to obey we
00:45:38 get to obey yes talk is cheap show me
00:45:43 something because we know those of us
00:45:46 who’ve been out on the
00:45:47 street from Yo’s
00:45:50 house know that it’s not a very nice
00:45:54 place and it is dark it’s it’s pretty
00:45:57 dark out there yeah it is by his grace
00:46:02 that we were brought back
00:46:06 in and it is by his
00:46:10 grace with along with our own
00:46:15 actions that we maintain our place in
00:46:19 his
00:46:21 house amen because one can fall from
00:46:25 salvation
00:46:27 yeah it’s a choice that you make
00:46:29 yourself but yes yes it’s not something
00:46:32 that Yahweh or someone else will take
00:46:34 from you it’s something you take from
00:46:36 yourself exactly it’s kind of like
00:46:38 Integrity nobody but you can give it up
00:46:42 yes that’s a good analogy yeah yeah yeah
00:46:46 so I I think with that this is a good uh
00:46:48 stopping point for
00:46:51 tonight all right
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