Scripture Study 2025-12-27 Women Caught in Adultery

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Going over the women caught in adultery and showing how Yeshua did what Torah stated should be done. Both the man and the women are to be punished. Deuteronomy means second telling. Torah from YHWH is different than the oral law from men. You can commit adultery while engaged. Judgements are to be public and is patterned after final judgement. Judgements are based upon facts not rumors. Churches judgements should be public not private. Yeshua stated He did things in publicly, Satan does things in secret. Second Coming shows stoning is still valid, along with sons of perdition being stoned in the center of the earth forever. It’s your rejection of Yeshua and your need of His covering is what gets you out of the Kingdom of Heaven. Need two witnesses to put someone to death. The witnesses had to be the first ones to throw the stones. The supposed witnesses were not doing things according to Torah and thus sinning. Torah is every word of Yah that is not a prescribed punishment. The history of Adam and Eve is told in a way to bring us to Yeshua. The Pharisees and Sadducees were not keeping YHWH’s Torah. Some testimonies are not to be included. The church is to deal with people according to Torah, not hide the sins of leaders to protect the churches image. Civil government is over capital punishments. Satan hides sins, Yeshua forgives them openly. YHWH’s Torah will make the world a better place if lived. Adam had Torah. A lying witnesses will receive the punishment of the accused if their false witness was believed. We should not be trying to temping people to break Torah. Law of Moses is Torah plus punishments. The wicked names shall be written in the earth as Jeremiah and Genesis teaches. When you reject YHWH’s Torah, you are rejecting Him. You can’t love someone and hate their ways. The elders are the leaders and teachers and should know Torah. The women was told to sin no more, was not told she was forgiven. Condemned is to be pronounced to be guilty. Yeshua did not have what was legally required to do a judgement. If you want to understand Yeshua and His words, learn His culture. When you love someone, you start learning about what makes them tick, happy and angry. Don’t use Yeshua’s words against Him as Satan did. For those who think the women caught in adultery is about forgiving everyone, why is it they are not doing that themselves? Everything Yeshua taught confirms Torah. Yeshua had to be sinless to perform the atonement. All the commandments are based upon the 10, which are based upon the 2. Eating non-kosher animals is eating poison that will kill you slowly. Higher law is nowhere found in the scriptures. Life is better because we have received peace from Yeshua even while going through the troubles of life. The world hates Yeshua’s words. To come under Yeshua you promise to repent which is keeping Torah. It is common to focus on different parts of history to bring out different lessons to be learned from the same history.

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00:00:02 Good evening, brothers and sisters. Uh,
00:00:05 tonight we’re going to be going over in
00:00:08 our lesson a very commonly misunderstood
00:00:11 passage in the Old Testament, which is
00:00:13 the
00:00:14 >> Old New Testament.
00:00:15 >> Oh, sorry, in the New Testament. I
00:00:16 apologize.
00:00:18 So, it’s the story of the lady caught in
00:00:20 adultery.
00:00:22 Um and uh m many times people
00:00:25 misconstrue this passage as being about
00:00:29 um forgiveness
00:00:32 and
00:00:33 >> and getting rid of the law
00:00:34 >> and getting rid of the law essentially.
00:00:37 But in this particular case, we’re going
00:00:40 to be going over uh the passages to show
00:00:43 that this is actually a passage about
00:00:45 keeping Torah. It’s also a passage about
00:00:48 how you’re supposed to go through the
00:00:50 process through Torah in order to bring
00:00:53 somebody to justice for committee.
00:00:56 >> Very cool.
00:00:57 >> Okay. So, in order to get this thing
00:01:00 going, we kind of wanted to I I kind of
00:01:02 wanted to start off explaining what that
00:01:05 process is.
00:01:07 >> And then we’re going to go over the
00:01:11 story
00:01:12 and
00:01:13 >> where the Pharisees and Sadducees got
00:01:16 things wrong.
00:01:18 Um, and what Jesus was trying to or
00:01:21 Yeshua was trying to teach.
00:01:24 >> Okay. So, first of all, we’re going to
00:01:27 start off in Leviticus chap 20 verse 10.
00:01:33 And this has to do with the punishment
00:01:37 prescribed for committing adultery.
00:01:42 And all right, if I could ask Brennan,
00:01:47 could you read verse 10?
00:01:48 >> Yeah, sure.
00:01:51 And the man that committh adultery with
00:01:53 another man’s wife, even he that
00:01:55 committh adultery with his neighbor’s
00:01:57 wife, the adulterer and the adulteress
00:02:00 shall surely be put to death.
00:02:02 >> Yeah. So here we see that the punishment
00:02:05 for committing adultery was death.
00:02:09 >> So but
00:02:10 >> Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
00:02:11 >> It it there it says adulter and
00:02:14 adulteress.
00:02:15 >> Yes.
00:02:16 >> So does that mean the man and the woman?
00:02:19 Yes.
00:02:20 >> Yesdeed. I was about to go there. We
00:02:22 were It was about
00:02:25 >> It was both offending parties were to be
00:02:28 taken and put to death.
00:02:29 >> So, not just the woman.
00:02:31 >> No. Absolutely not.
00:02:32 >> Okay.
00:02:33 >> Absolutely not. Okay. We are going to
00:02:37 move on to Deuteronomy 22 22- 24 now.
00:02:41 And Josh, would you grace us with with
00:02:44 the reading on that one?
00:02:46 >> 22 to 20 through 24.
00:02:48 >> Yes. Which which chapter?
00:02:50 >> Oh, Deuteronomy 22.
00:02:52 >> Yep. Yep. Got it. Got it.
00:02:54 >> All right. Uh, yes, I will read that.
00:02:57 Um, if a man be found lying with a woman
00:03:00 married to an husband.
00:03:02 >> Okay. So, let’s I I’m sure it’s clear
00:03:05 what this is, but it this is not telling
00:03:08 an untruth. Okay.
00:03:10 >> Right. No, this is this is biblical. No.
00:03:14 >> Yes.
00:03:15 Taking a nap with an altar or next Also,
00:03:20 >> okay, so another thing about that is
00:03:23 that it’s also when it says lying with
00:03:25 it doesn’t mean that they just happen to
00:03:27 be lying in the same bed.
00:03:32 >> Well, it could be a different Are you
00:03:34 telling us
00:03:36 the dirty deed?
00:03:38 >> What’s that?
00:03:40 >> It could be a different bed.
00:03:43 >> No, I’m not. No, it’s the point is is
00:03:47 sometimes people innocently lay in the
00:03:49 same bed together.
00:03:51 >> Yes. Th this is actual uh having sex.
00:03:54 I’ll just say the sword. Okay.
00:03:56 >> Yeah. That’s and that’s my point.
00:03:58 >> Having sexual relations. Yes.
00:04:01 >> Yeah. This isn’t just about somebody if
00:04:04 you catch these two people if you catch
00:04:06 a woman who is married innocently in bed
00:04:08 with another man. No. This is if you
00:04:11 catch a woman who’s married having
00:04:12 another man and laying in the
00:04:14 same bed with him.
00:04:16 >> It’s a valid way. That actually is what
00:04:18 that is. I I I know supposed to mean
00:04:21 gets misused.
00:04:23 >> Correctly.
00:04:24 >> Well done.
00:04:25 >> Well Well said.
00:04:28 >> Well used at least. Anyways,
00:04:31 >> uh anyways. All right. So if a man be
00:04:33 found lying with a woman married to an
00:04:35 husband, then they shall both both What?
00:04:40 And they they is plural.
00:04:42 >> They both
00:04:46 They shall both of them die. Both the
00:04:49 man that lay with the woman and the
00:04:52 woman. So shalt thou put away evil from
00:04:55 Yeshu.
00:04:57 >> Oh, wait a minute. That’s
00:05:01 like wasn’t that what just the Leviticus
00:05:03 20 said?
00:05:05 >> Mhm.
00:05:07 >> They’ll be put to death. Yes.
00:05:08 >> Yeah. It’s almost like duteranu means
00:05:10 second telling. Oh, that’s what it
00:05:14 means.
00:05:14 >> Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Because that’s what
00:05:17 I was going to say. Maybe because that’s
00:05:18 what it means.
00:05:20 If a damsel that is a virgin
00:05:24 berod onto an husband, and a man find
00:05:27 her in the city, and lie with her, then
00:05:30 ye shall bring them both out unto the
00:05:32 gate of that city.
00:05:34 >> Okay. Wait, wait, where?
00:05:37 Oh, outside the gate of the city.
00:05:39 >> To the gate of the city, not to the
00:05:42 temple.
00:05:43 >> Right.
00:05:44 >> Oh, okay. Thank you. I I was confused.
00:05:47 >> You were confused for a minute? Oh,
00:05:48 yeah.
00:05:49 >> I was
00:05:50 >> Yeah. Uh, well, not anymore, right?
00:05:51 Okay, good. Yeah,
00:05:52 >> I was I was confused because um these uh
00:05:56 Pharisees are such perfect lawkeepers.
00:05:59 >> But yeah, Ben Ben read my mind here.
00:06:03 >> Oh, I knew what you were getting at.
00:06:04 Yes. the story of the woman taken in
00:06:07 adultery. Yes. Or the
00:06:09 >> And what this and what I’m referring to
00:06:11 is not what they were, but what people
00:06:14 keep saying they were.
00:06:16 >> Yes.
00:06:17 >> Yes. Um a lot of people confuse the oral
00:06:21 law, aka the false traditions of men,
00:06:25 which Yeshua actually states made Torah
00:06:28 null and void as Torah.
00:06:30 >> Yes. Um, and I know I’m being kind of
00:06:33 silly, but I am I’m being silly to make
00:06:36 points. Okay. Because it I’m trying to
00:06:39 get it to stick out in people’s heads
00:06:41 more. That’s the reason I do it.
00:06:43 >> Yep.
00:06:44 >> Anyways,
00:06:45 >> all right. Then you shall bring them
00:06:47 both out unto the gate of that city, not
00:06:50 the temple. And you shall stone them
00:06:52 with stones that they die. So this is
00:06:56 this is betroal,
00:06:59 >> which betroal is essentially the same
00:07:01 thing as being married.
00:07:02 >> Well, it’s engagement and it’s you’re
00:07:06 you’re married without the married
00:07:08 benefits. Yes.
00:07:09 >> Right.
00:07:10 >> You still have that commitment to that
00:07:12 person.
00:07:12 >> You’re you’re you have the marital
00:07:14 commitment without the sex benefits.
00:07:16 Yes.
00:07:18 >> Yeah.
00:07:18 >> And that’s that’s about as bluntly as it
00:07:20 can be put.
00:07:21 >> Yeah.
00:07:22 >> Right. Um so there is one other benefit
00:07:24 like the wife doesn’t get uh taken care
00:07:28 of by the
00:07:31 tob husband right still living with her
00:07:36 >> parents right
00:07:37 >> um but
00:07:39 on purposes of law though
00:07:42 uh civil and uh religious they’re
00:07:46 married.
00:07:47 >> Yeah.
00:07:47 >> Right. Right. Yeah.
00:07:50 So uh they shall stone them with stones
00:07:52 that they die. The damsel because she
00:07:54 cried not being in the city. So because
00:07:56 she consensually had sex with a person
00:08:00 she was not betrod to.
00:08:02 >> Right. Right. But it’s within the city
00:08:04 because in the city there’s people to
00:08:05 hear you.
00:08:06 >> There’s people that hear you. In the
00:08:07 wilderness there’s not. Yeah.
00:08:09 >> Right. Right. And the man because he
00:08:12 hath humbled his neighbor’s wife. So
00:08:15 thou shalt put away evil from among you.
00:08:18 >> Okay. Th this is a weird way of saying
00:08:20 had sex. Yes. Okay.
00:08:22 >> Right.
00:08:23 >> It is.
00:08:24 >> I I like the way they say take them both
00:08:27 out onto the gate of that city because
00:08:29 it’s symbolically removing the stain of
00:08:32 that sin from the city or from Yeshel.
00:08:37 >> There’s another point to that though.
00:08:40 Judgments were to be public.
00:08:44 >> Yes. and the gate of the city. I I don’t
00:08:46 know if you can get a whole lot more
00:08:48 public than out in the middle of the
00:08:49 gate of the city,
00:08:51 >> right? But also, I’m gonna say this.
00:08:54 There’s more. It is to be public. There
00:08:56 is another point to it. Um it is at the
00:09:00 gate uh in front of everybody. You’ll
00:09:03 get judged to know if you go into the
00:09:04 kingdom or not.
00:09:06 >> Yep.
00:09:06 >> Yep.
00:09:08 >> A bunch of interesting symbologies
00:09:10 there. Y
00:09:12 >> um it’s
00:09:14 it’s to see if you are allowed entry or
00:09:18 not
00:09:19 >> into the kingdom. Right. Yeah.
00:09:21 >> Kingdom or into the city. Right.
00:09:23 >> Right.
00:09:24 >> Wow.
00:09:25 >> Yep.
00:09:26 >> All right.
00:09:27 >> All right. So, next thing um with
00:09:32 Deuteronomy 17 2-7 is going to introduce
00:09:35 a new element to it. It’s going to start
00:09:37 talking about witnesses towards the end.
00:09:39 So that’s part of the whole judgment
00:09:42 process.
00:09:44 >> So um John, would you like to read 2
00:09:47 through 7?
00:09:49 >> Sure can.
00:09:50 >> If there be found among you within any
00:09:53 of of the gates,
00:09:56 which
00:09:57 >> well basically I just wanted within the
00:09:58 gates that’s saying within your living
00:10:01 cities or towns or whatever.
00:10:03 >> Within the city within the city.
00:10:05 >> Yes.
00:10:06 >> Yeah.
00:10:07 >> Or town depending how big. But it’s
00:10:08 within your
00:10:09 >> or house even or your community.
00:10:12 >> House even.
00:10:13 >> Yeah.
00:10:14 >> Within your community. Anybody within
00:10:16 the community. Yeah.
00:10:17 >> Yeah.
00:10:19 >> Okay.
00:10:19 >> That’s safe for me to say.
00:10:20 >> All right. If there be ye found among
00:10:24 you within any of thy gates, which
00:10:26 Yahweh giveth thee, man or woman, that
00:10:30 hath wrought wickedness in the sight of
00:10:32 Yahu,
00:10:34 in transgressing his covenant,
00:10:38 and hath gone and served uh other gods,
00:10:42 and worshiped them, either the sun or
00:10:46 the moon, or the sun or moon, or any of
00:10:49 the host of heaven, which I have not
00:10:52 commanded,
00:10:54 and it be told thee, and thou hast heard
00:10:57 of it, and inquired diligently, and
00:11:00 behold, it be true,
00:11:04 >> and the thing c and the thing certain
00:11:07 that which abomination
00:11:08 >> that such
00:11:09 >> Thank you. Thank you. Whatever. Sorry.
00:11:13 >> That such abomination is wrought in
00:11:15 Israel. Wait. No, I do want to bring out
00:11:18 it’s not just hearing a rumor.
00:11:21 >> Yeah. You have to
00:11:23 >> Yeah. You have to back it up
00:11:25 >> and and and what follows is going to
00:11:27 really substantiate that. So,
00:11:29 >> yeah. But this dil inquired diligently.
00:11:34 That that means you’ve really looked
00:11:36 into it.
00:11:37 >> You investigated it. You investigated
00:11:39 it.
00:11:40 >> Not only did you investigate it, but you
00:11:42 investigated every possible lead.
00:11:44 >> Yes.
00:11:44 >> Well, you investigated it thoroughly.
00:11:46 Yes.
00:11:47 >> Well, I don’t know about every lead
00:11:48 because some leads just aren’t worthy.
00:11:50 But
00:11:50 >> you investigated thoroughly
00:11:55 >> reliable.
00:11:56 >> Yes.
00:11:57 >> Say, “Okay, so this this this is what I
00:12:00 do in my investigations, right? I bring
00:12:04 in I bring in the accuser or the
00:12:07 accuser. I talk with them and say,
00:12:09 “Okay, what is it?” Okay. Then I bring
00:12:12 in the accused and I talk with them. any
00:12:14 names that they drop, right? While
00:12:18 they’re bearing their testimony about
00:12:20 what happened, right now it’s up to me
00:12:24 to go and inquire of those people, see
00:12:27 if they were even there, first of all.
00:12:30 Right. And second of all, what did they
00:12:33 see happen, right?
00:12:35 >> Yeah. So, and I’m sure that that’s
00:12:37 what’s going to that’s what we’re going
00:12:39 to get into further down here. But
00:12:42 >> the idea of witnesses and that is and
00:12:45 that’s how you inquire diligently.
00:12:49 >> Uh, right. But if there if one of the
00:12:52 witnesses is a known liar, I I would say
00:12:55 you don’t talk to him. You can’t trust
00:12:58 him either way because he’s a liar.
00:12:59 Okay.
00:13:01 Well,
00:13:03 you still probably have to talk to him,
00:13:05 but you’re not gonna
00:13:06 >> I disagree.
00:13:07 >> I disagree because there’s more than one
00:13:10 way to skin to to peel an onion.
00:13:13 >> You still talk to them, but you have to
00:13:15 wait that testimony as well.
00:13:18 >> You wait the testimony. Certainly,
00:13:19 >> you you you take their statement exactly
00:13:22 as they give it to you. If they are a
00:13:24 liar, the lies will bear out when you
00:13:26 compare it to the testimony of other
00:13:28 people, but you still inquire.
00:13:31 >> Yes.
00:13:32 >> All right. Well, we have
00:13:33 >> otherwise you haven’t thoroughly
00:13:34 investigated. You haven’t inquired
00:13:36 diligently.
00:13:37 >> Uh, I’ll disagree, but that’s not a big
00:13:40 deal.
00:13:40 >> Well, that’s that’s your that’s your
00:13:42 privilege and your prerogative, but I
00:13:44 I’m telling you, I have experience in
00:13:46 these things. You never ever leave a
00:13:49 witness unturned.
00:13:52 Yep. Um,
00:13:56 >> I if there
00:13:58 >> you don’t have to agree with me,
00:13:59 Stephen. You don’t have to agree with
00:14:00 me. And but we don’t and we don’t have
00:14:02 to turn it into a debate.
00:14:03 >> Yeah. Yeah. We We’ll leave it alone.
00:14:05 >> Let’s keep going. We’ll leave it alone.
00:14:07 Let’s just say inquire diligently means
00:14:10 that you have
00:14:12 >> turn every you’ve turned over every
00:14:14 possibility that you possibly can to get
00:14:17 to the bottom of the truth. Okay.
00:14:20 Well, I would just add reasonable, but
00:14:21 that’s fine. Well, I’m not going to push
00:14:23 that too much. Okay, that’s
00:14:25 >> You can Well, you can push it. I I don’t
00:14:27 care.
00:14:28 >> I Well, we’ll we’ll save that for
00:14:29 another time after maybe.
00:14:32 >> Absolutely.
00:14:33 >> Because at the end of the day, I think
00:14:35 that comes down to an argument of of
00:14:38 a personal preference.
00:14:40 >> That could be. Anyways, we we’ll
00:14:43 continue on.
00:14:44 >> Let’s let’s keep going. John, we’re in
00:14:47 the middle of four.
00:14:49 >> Actually, we’ve just finished four.
00:14:51 >> Then shalt thou bring forth that man or
00:14:54 that woman which have committed that
00:14:56 wicked thing unto thy gates.
00:14:59 >> Wait, wait, wait. What? Um,
00:15:01 >> yep. Gates. Public place.
00:15:03 >> The gates. Yeah. A public gates. Gates.
00:15:07 I I do think though that it is important
00:15:11 that it is the gates because there are
00:15:13 other public spaces within a city.
00:15:16 >> I think it’s important that it is the
00:15:18 gates because you are removing that
00:15:21 known wickedness from the city before
00:15:24 trying them publicly and giving them
00:15:26 what and giving them
00:15:29 their just
00:15:30 >> what they have earned. Giving them what
00:15:31 they have earned.
00:15:33 >> Yes. And so I I do agree with Ben and I
00:15:36 I’m glad that he brought that out. Um in
00:15:38 addition, like in a church, they don’t
00:15:41 really have gates per se, but they have
00:15:43 open uh doors that goes in and out of
00:15:46 the building that they could be doing
00:15:48 instead of the clo behind closed doors.
00:15:52 >> Mhm. Yep.
00:15:54 >> Notice they also Oh, sorry. Go ahead and
00:15:56 finish your thought. And this is like a
00:16:01 you won’t get if you want wickedness out
00:16:04 of your cities and out of your churches,
00:16:08 >> show the world and the believers and
00:16:12 especially those who uh are thinking
00:16:15 about joining that would actually
00:16:17 strengthen you that you actually believe
00:16:20 in the convictions
00:16:22 that you claim.
00:16:25 Don’t do it behind closed doors
00:16:27 >> and that you and that you live by the
00:16:29 convictions that you claim to live.
00:16:31 >> Right. I mean, Yahweh in the New
00:16:33 Testament brings out how he doesn’t do
00:16:35 things in secret, but then you go do
00:16:37 things in secret. Who’s your father?
00:16:40 Who’s your leader?
00:16:41 >> Yep.
00:16:41 >> Right.
00:16:42 >> Well, that’s
00:16:44 the fact that they took in secret to
00:16:47 murder him.
00:16:48 >> Yeah. So, I also wanted to bring one
00:16:50 thing out. Um, I know it’s in a few
00:16:52 verses, but it’s a common refrain
00:16:54 throughout this whole little section
00:16:57 about judgment and everything. So, thou
00:16:58 shalt put evil away from
00:17:02 verse seven. Sorry,
00:17:04 >> in verse seven, so thou shalt put
00:17:07 >> the evil away from among you. Doing that
00:17:11 at the gate would go along with what Ben
00:17:13 was saying as well
00:17:14 >> where you’re removing that stain or
00:17:17 whatever it is
00:17:20 >> out.
00:17:21 >> Yep.
00:17:22 >> From the city essentially as you’re
00:17:24 taking care of. So yeah.
00:17:27 >> Yeah.
00:17:27 >> Just sorry I got a little ahead of
00:17:29 myself but go ahead John. Okay. So uh
00:17:34 verse verse at the middle of verse five.
00:17:38 even that man or that woman, and thou
00:17:41 shalt stone them with stones till they
00:17:43 die
00:17:45 at the mouth of
00:17:46 >> Wait, wait. So, we I want to talk about
00:17:48 the stoning. Okay.
00:17:49 >> Yep. Go for it.
00:17:51 >> So, um this is still valid.
00:17:55 And for one, there’s um the second
00:17:59 coming, fire and brimstone. That is
00:18:01 stoning. That literally is stoning.
00:18:04 Okay. Mhm.
00:18:06 >> And then there’s also how those who
00:18:11 this gets into the question, where’s
00:18:12 hell? I It’s the center of the earth.
00:18:15 You’re being stoned for eternity.
00:18:18 >> Yes.
00:18:18 >> Mhm.
00:18:19 >> It is still valid. And that’s what this
00:18:22 stoning is based upon. It’s based upon
00:18:24 the second coming, the fire and
00:18:26 brimstone, and eternity
00:18:29 that they will be stoned. And just
00:18:31 another another thing about that, going
00:18:35 back to a comment that you made earlier,
00:18:37 Stephen, this just popped into my head.
00:18:41 This idea that it’s at the gates that
00:18:44 they determine whether they can enter
00:18:47 the it is determined whether you can
00:18:49 enter the kingdom of heaven or not.
00:18:52 >> Yeah.
00:18:53 >> Those you mean judgment?
00:18:55 >> Yeah. That the judgment occurs.
00:18:58 Um those
00:19:02 at the time of the rapture who are not
00:19:04 deemed worthy of the rapture are going
00:19:07 to be left for the stoning.
00:19:11 >> Uhhuh.
00:19:13 >> Matthew a and there those who will at
00:19:18 the who are at the
00:19:21 tstral glory level or lower which is
00:19:24 tstal sense of preditions right.
00:19:28 um
00:19:29 they have to learn the consequences of
00:19:31 their sins the hard way because
00:19:34 um they let the crows take on the
00:19:39 tasters. They let the crows take the
00:19:41 seed of or the word of Yahweh from them.
00:19:45 >> Even though they’re still in the
00:19:46 kingdom, they’re still sinning. Yeah, I
00:19:50 I know that sounds bad. Um, but
00:19:56 >> sins don’t take away your the covering
00:19:58 of Yeshua. Okay.
00:20:01 >> It’s your denial of Yeshua
00:20:06 because you start getting comfortable
00:20:08 with your sins that then you think
00:20:11 they’re okay and then you don’t need to
00:20:13 get covered.
00:20:15 That’s the problem.
00:20:17 Here’s
00:20:18 >> that because that leads you to reject
00:20:21 Yeshua which then takes you out of his
00:20:23 covering.
00:20:24 >> It’s not the sin. It’s what the sin
00:20:27 >> could very likely lead to.
00:20:30 >> Well, it will lead to stoning. Like
00:20:32 literally.
00:20:33 >> Well, there’s that. But I’m more that
00:20:35 worried about it them rejecting Yeshua.
00:20:38 I don’t want them to get stoned.
00:20:40 >> Right. No. Right. I Yes. I think we’re
00:20:43 we’re all in the same place there. We
00:20:46 don’t want any to see anyone get stoned.
00:20:49 >> Right. But since there are going to be
00:20:51 people in the kingdom that got stoned
00:20:54 because of second coming stuff. Okay.
00:20:56 >> Mhm.
00:20:57 >> I I’m more worried that they reject
00:20:59 Joshua,
00:21:01 >> right? Okay. I see.
00:21:02 >> Then they’re stoned for eternity.
00:21:04 >> Yeah.
00:21:04 >> Yeah. Which is which is the worst. Yeah.
00:21:09 >> Okay. So going back to Deuteronomy 17, I
00:21:12 was I I was actually kind of thinking
00:21:14 about another different wrinkle
00:21:18 in this whole thing
00:21:20 >> and that is what if you were the judge
00:21:23 and the and the and the person accused
00:21:26 the pe the guilty one of the guilty
00:21:28 parties here was your child.
00:21:32 This is a this in this scenario it now
00:21:35 becomes apparent that family doesn’t
00:21:38 come first.
00:21:40 >> Yeah. Yeah. Um though you can uh recuse
00:21:44 yourself. I think that’s the more
00:21:46 >> you can recuse yourself and get another
00:21:48 judge.
00:21:49 >> Yeah.
00:21:50 >> Uh and
00:21:53 which by the way which by the way if it
00:21:56 was me I would do because
00:22:00 >> Yeah.
00:22:01 But this is this is one of those things
00:22:04 where it you realize um with justice
00:22:09 being a virtue. Now I know a lot of
00:22:13 people don’t agree with that idea. They
00:22:15 think that justice is not a virtue. Only
00:22:17 mercy is a virtue. But justice is a
00:22:20 virtue and it is a very godly virtue.
00:22:22 It’s at the very heart of godliness.
00:22:26 >> I I I agree.
00:22:28 >> I agree with you, Ben. But if it was me,
00:22:30 I’d recuse myself.
00:22:33 >> He wasn’t finished. He wasn’t finished.
00:22:35 >> Finished. And I wasn’t saying that you
00:22:37 shouldn’t.
00:22:40 >> I My point had nothing to do with that.
00:22:42 >> Well, anyway,
00:22:44 let’s get to your point.
00:22:45 >> The point is is that justice must be
00:22:48 accomplished
00:22:50 even
00:22:53 when the perpetrator is your own kin.
00:22:58 >> Yes.
00:22:59 Yes.
00:22:59 >> Yes. An example from scriptures when
00:23:03 David had to judge his son for
00:23:08 raping his daughter. I I don’t think he
00:23:10 should have been the judge because he
00:23:13 did not give the correct punishment.
00:23:16 >> He gave a lesser one. He shouldn’t have
00:23:18 done that. Mhm.
00:23:19 >> No, I can understand it being hard being
00:23:23 his child, but
00:23:27 I I
00:23:30 >> And this is why And this is why And this
00:23:31 is why this is why I was
00:23:35 This is why I was saying if it was me, I
00:23:37 would probably recuse myself.
00:23:40 >> Yeah. It it you have two jobs in this
00:23:44 case with David that are conflicting
00:23:47 each other. Correct.
00:23:49 >> That’s a conflict of interest.
00:23:52 >> Yes.
00:23:52 >> A parent should not want their child to
00:23:55 die even for what they did. And and I’m
00:23:59 sure he David let
00:24:02 his parental role overrule overrule too
00:24:07 much. But anyways,
00:24:10 I I’m not trying to say David is evil.
00:24:12 He I
00:24:14 >> He did There’s this
00:24:15 >> David David made mistakes. David made
00:24:18 some bad mistakes, but
00:24:20 >> David did something that is completely
00:24:23 humanly understandable.
00:24:25 >> Oh, yes. Yes.
00:24:26 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:28 >> And I was just going to say there’s an
00:24:29 idea out there that people think that
00:24:32 Joseph Smith said David’s not in heaven.
00:24:35 That’s not true. That came from Brigham
00:24:36 Y. Yog. Anyways, um
00:24:40 >> odd that he would be the one to say
00:24:42 that, but yeah. Yeah. Especially
00:24:45 >> so moving moving on.
00:24:49 Yeah. Getting back getting back to
00:24:52 adultery law.
00:24:53 >> Yeah. Yeah. Right. But
00:24:55 >> John, you want to read six?
00:24:57 >> Well, hold on, Steph.
00:24:58 >> Yeah. No, go ahead. We shall go back.
00:25:00 >> Go ahead, John. Go ahead. Read verse
00:25:01 six. This is the new wrinkle we’re
00:25:03 adding here. At the mouth of two
00:25:05 witnesses or three witnesses shall he
00:25:08 that is worthy of death be put to death.
00:25:12 But at the mouth of one witness, he
00:25:14 shall not be put to death. The hands of
00:25:19 the w Let me Let me just finish the
00:25:21 section, please.
00:25:21 >> No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:25:23 Let me So,
00:25:27 >> I know I’m jumping ahead a little bit,
00:25:29 but
00:25:31 is that why Yeshua said, “Where are thy
00:25:35 accusers?”
00:25:37 >> Yes. Maybe more into that here in a
00:25:39 minute. Okay. All right. I’m jumping I’m
00:25:41 jumping ahead.
00:25:42 >> You are you are definitely jumping
00:25:43 ahead.
00:25:44 >> Resolutions now assume to come back
00:25:45 around to them.
00:25:48 >> The hands of the witnesses the hands of
00:25:50 the witnesses shall first uh shall be
00:25:52 first upon him to put him to death and
00:25:56 afterward the hands of all the people.
00:25:58 So sh so thou shalt put the evil away
00:26:02 from among you.
00:26:04 >> Oh that’s interesting. The witnesses get
00:26:07 to throw the first stones.
00:26:09 >> Yeah. Not not get they have to it’s a
00:26:13 requirement.
00:26:14 >> Yes.
00:26:15 >> They have to throw the first stones that
00:26:17 way.
00:26:19 They are I mean that’s
00:26:22 >> well they’re sealing their witness.
00:26:24 >> Yes.
00:26:25 >> Yeah. That’s it.
00:26:27 >> And this is the significance of Yeshua
00:26:29 saying let he who is without sin cast
00:26:34 the first stone.
00:26:35 >> Yes. It goes with this right here. But
00:26:37 since Ben’s bringing out what is sin,
00:26:40 >> breaking the law, Yeshua, and I know
00:26:43 we’re skipping ahead, but I since Ben
00:26:45 brought it up, I am going to say that
00:26:46 and and I’ve done some illusions, too.
00:26:48 But anyways,
00:26:50 >> but Yeshua knew
00:26:54 that the Pharisees were breaking the
00:26:56 law. And there’s been multiple points
00:26:58 that we’ve gone over so far that shows
00:27:01 that they were sinning and how they were
00:27:04 trying to bring this
00:27:06 >> woman supposedly caught in adultery
00:27:10 >> to justice
00:27:11 >> to justice. To sin is to break Torah.
00:27:14 Okay. And we’re reading uh things from
00:27:18 the first five books of Moses which is
00:27:20 very consecrated. I sorry
00:27:22 >> concentrated.
00:27:24 >> Yeah. Andrew said it so for me. Thank
00:27:26 you. I’m not going to try to say it. Um
00:27:31 >> yeah.
00:27:32 >> So say it again for me.
00:27:33 >> It’s concentrated Torah.
00:27:35 >> Yes. In that there’s so much of it in a
00:27:37 little amount of space. But
00:27:39 >> Torah is every word of Yah that is not a
00:27:43 prescribed punishment. So it’s not only
00:27:45 in the first five books of Moses.
00:27:48 >> It’s also in the commentary of the
00:27:50 prophets among other places. Okay.
00:27:52 >> Yep. Yep. Yep. And it and you’ll find
00:27:56 >> you’ll find it in the Psalms. You’ll
00:27:57 find commandments in the Psalms that are
00:27:59 not explicitly stated in other places.
00:28:01 >> Yeah. And so, and I just let me Sorry,
00:28:05 Andrew. I’m going to be
00:28:06 >> I’m going to take over for one second.
00:28:10 But, um,
00:28:13 let’s go get it. Uh,
00:28:17 and let’s make the view bigger cuz
00:28:19 that’s probably too small.
00:28:22 Might be.
00:28:24 Um, okay. So, that one.
00:28:29 Okay. So, Yeshua in John 10, um, is
00:28:34 quoting Psalms 82. Okay.
00:28:39 Bringing out and Yeshua called this a
00:28:42 quote from 82 Torah. So, this is outside
00:28:47 of the five books of Moses at least the
00:28:49 last time I checked. Mhm.
00:28:51 >> Now, and I’m just going to keep this
00:28:53 brief. Paul uh in 1 Corinthians 14:21
00:28:58 quoted Isaiah, which is the commentary
00:29:01 or the prophets. Okay.
00:29:03 >> Yep.
00:29:03 >> And he quotes Isaiah extensively in
00:29:06 Hebrews.
00:29:08 >> Yes. But the reason I’m bringing this
00:29:10 one out specifically because he’s
00:29:12 calling it law aka Torah.
00:29:16 >> Right. Right. He’s quoting Isaiah
00:29:18 28:11-12,
00:29:21 >> bringing out how Torah,
00:29:24 every word of Yahw is more than the
00:29:27 first five books of Moses. Okay. Now, it
00:29:30 it is consecrated. No, I said it wrong.
00:29:33 >> Concentrated.
00:29:34 >> Thank you. Concentrated.
00:29:37 I said it right that time. In the first
00:29:39 five books of Moses. Okay. Or the five
00:29:41 books of Moses, which are the five first
00:29:43 five books of the Bible. It’s not the
00:29:45 only place it’s located.
00:29:47 >> Yeah,
00:29:48 >> that’s the point I wanted to make. It’s
00:29:50 I I will say it’s in the Book of Mormon.
00:29:52 It’s in the DNC and it’s
00:29:55 >> in the New Testament all over the place,
00:29:57 too.
00:29:57 >> Yes. Um,
00:30:00 we are to live by every word of Yahw,
00:30:04 >> not just your favorite piece. That’s the
00:30:06 piece of sand.
00:30:08 >> Sorry. Yeah. Not just the ones that
00:30:10 absolutely
00:30:12 absolve you of keeping the law. Yeah.
00:30:14 Because they don’t and it will condemn
00:30:17 you. And if you think that’s what it’s
00:30:18 saying, you’re listening to Satan like
00:30:20 Eve did.
00:30:22 >> Yep.
00:30:23 >> You will get the punishment even though
00:30:25 you think you were so wise.
00:30:29 >> Just like Eve did and Adam.
00:30:33 >> Yes. Uh now I’ll just say this. Adam,
00:30:37 even if you read the account of Genesis,
00:30:39 it was to keep them together.
00:30:41 >> Yes. Yeah.
00:30:42 >> And and and that actually points out
00:30:45 Yeshua took on my sin and our sins. Yep.
00:30:49 >> Yes.
00:30:50 >> It is it is a type. It is a type. Yeah.
00:30:54 >> Yeah. Yeah. So, yes, Adam did sin, but
00:30:56 there is a type there. And that’s why I
00:30:59 generally don’t focus on that one. But
00:31:01 >> so would you say that would you say that
00:31:03 Yeshua is the second Adam in oh so many
00:31:05 ways?
00:31:06 >> Oh yes, including that one.
00:31:10 >> Yes.
00:31:12 >> Sean, do you want to read verse seven
00:31:14 now?
00:31:15 >> I thought I did. But uh the hand
00:31:20 didn’t.
00:31:22 >> Yeah, I did. Oh, I’ll read it again. The
00:31:25 hands of the witnesses shall be the
00:31:26 first to put him to death. And afterward
00:31:29 that No, you wanted me to read it. I’ll
00:31:31 read it.
00:31:32 >> And afterward the hands of all the
00:31:34 people, so thou shalt put the evil away
00:31:38 from among you.
00:31:39 >> There you go.
00:31:39 >> Okay. All right. All right. Sorry about
00:31:41 that. All right. I think we went over
00:31:44 that pretty well so far. Um, and again,
00:31:48 yeah, is the witnesses.
00:31:50 >> I think it would be good at this point
00:31:52 to summarize what we’ve gone over.
00:31:54 >> Okay. Yeah. Let me let me do this real
00:31:56 quick. Okay.
00:31:58 So
00:32:00 >> the prescribed punishment for an
00:32:02 adulterer for both of them, the
00:32:05 adulterer and the adulteress, let’s put
00:32:07 it in modern terms, men and women.
00:32:10 >> Yeah. Okay. The punishment for the man
00:32:12 and the woman who committed adultery
00:32:13 together is death by stoning. Okay. This
00:32:18 is supposed to occur at the gates of the
00:32:21 city.
00:32:21 >> You mean not the
00:32:24 >> not at the temple? No. Okay. Not at the
00:32:26 temple, not in the city square,
00:32:30 at the gates of
00:32:31 >> not in the marketplace.
00:32:35 >> You are to in in uh diligently inquire
00:32:40 to make sure that the person actually
00:32:42 committed said crime. Okay? And the way
00:32:46 you do this is through two or three or
00:32:49 more, preferably more witnesses. And
00:32:52 we’ll get into that in a second as well.
00:32:55 Um
00:32:57 and uh it’s but and the the witnesses
00:32:59 are the ones who are supposed to throw
00:33:01 the first stones
00:33:04 >> sealing their testimony
00:33:06 u upon the judged
00:33:11 >> as in to say I I really know this
00:33:13 happened and I’m willing to do what is
00:33:14 required.
00:33:15 >> I’m willing to I’m willing to kill for
00:33:17 my testimony essentially.
00:33:19 >> Yes. And I will say this, Andrews did
00:33:22 say the correct word because there is a
00:33:24 difference between killing and murder.
00:33:26 Yes.
00:33:27 >> And he said the correct one. Kill.
00:33:29 >> Well, if it’s
00:33:32 James did not translate the correct one.
00:33:35 >> No.
00:33:36 >> Well, and not all the sometimes yes,
00:33:38 sometimes no. But in referring to the 10
00:33:41 divisions of Torah, they did not. It’s
00:33:43 murder there. It should be murder.
00:33:46 >> Yes.
00:33:47 >> And sometimes the book of But good old
00:33:50 King James had to leave his stamp on
00:33:53 history. Anyways,
00:33:56 >> I think it’s more saying because he was
00:33:58 an adulterer himself. But anyways,
00:34:00 that’s
00:34:00 >> he was and and and if he really believed
00:34:03 what the Bible said, he should have been
00:34:04 put to death multiple times.
00:34:07 >> Oh, for sure.
00:34:08 >> Yeah. Yeah. And he was not repentant as
00:34:10 David was. So,
00:34:12 >> Oh, no. He was rather proud of his
00:34:14 exploits.
00:34:16 >> So far, that is the synopsis. We have a
00:34:19 little bit more to go as far as how
00:34:20 things are to be handled with the law.
00:34:23 Uh we’re going to reread Deuteronomy
00:34:26 17:6. Ben, if you could read that for
00:34:28 us.
00:34:29 >> Okay. At the mouth of two witnesses or
00:34:33 three witnesses
00:34:35 shall he that is worthy of death be put
00:34:37 to death. But at the mouth of one
00:34:40 witness alone, I added alone,
00:34:44 >> shall not be put to death. So that’s
00:34:46 very straightforward. You need multiple
00:34:50 witnesses to be able to hand down a
00:34:52 death penalty.
00:34:53 >> Correct.
00:34:54 >> Well, and not just and not just multiple
00:34:56 witnesses to hand down multiple
00:34:59 corroborating
00:35:01 or say telling the same
00:35:03 >> Yeah. Yes.
00:35:04 >> Well, yeah. Description of the event.
00:35:06 >> Yes.
00:35:07 >> And I I think it is good that Josh is
00:35:09 bringing this out because that’s going
00:35:11 with it inquire.
00:35:14 Yes, inquire.
00:35:16 >> Yeah,
00:35:17 >> I I that is although it’s not
00:35:19 specifically stated there, I do agree
00:35:22 with Josh. Okay.
00:35:23 >> Okay.
00:35:23 >> It’s al it also highlights the supreme
00:35:26 duplicity of the uh of the of the
00:35:30 Sadducees when they bring him before the
00:35:33 high priest cannot get a single
00:35:35 corroborating witness. cannot get cannot
00:35:38 rub two witnesses together against him
00:35:41 and still on one word on one word alone
00:35:46 on on the word of two false witnesses
00:35:49 >> that did not collaborate and it was on
00:35:51 different things.
00:35:52 >> Yeah.
00:35:54 >> They still put him to death, right?
00:35:55 >> They proceed they proceed forward. Yeah.
00:35:58 >> Uh the the although people like to claim
00:36:02 that the Sadducees and the Pharisees
00:36:04 were keeping Torah, this is an example
00:36:06 that been brought up that shows that
00:36:08 they
00:36:10 didn’t.
00:36:11 >> Yeah.
00:36:11 >> They didn’t care about keeping Torah.
00:36:14 >> Nope. They they cared about the
00:36:17 illusion, which is what Satan cares,
00:36:19 which Yes.
00:36:19 >> They cared about the illusion is power.
00:36:23 >> That’s the illusion.
00:36:24 >> Yeah. And I am bringing out how Yoshua
00:36:27 said their father, their leader was
00:36:30 Satan. Okay.
00:36:33 >> All right.
00:36:35 >> So, the next verse we want to look at is
00:36:37 DNC 4280.
00:36:39 And uh Zach, if you could read that.
00:36:46 >> Can you expand the text?
00:36:48 >> Uh yeah, I can make it. Sorry about
00:36:50 that. Oops, wrong button. It’s this
00:36:53 button.
00:36:55 We’re right there. Let’s see. That
00:36:58 better.
00:37:00 >> Yeah.
00:37:01 >> All right. So, it’s 4280.
00:37:07 There you go. Zach.
00:37:11 >> And if any man or woman shall commit
00:37:13 adultery,
00:37:15 he or she shall be tried before two
00:37:17 elders of the church or more. and every
00:37:21 word shall be established against him or
00:37:23 her by two witnesses of the church and
00:37:26 not of the enemy. But if there are more
00:37:29 than two witnesses, it is better.
00:37:32 >> Okay.
00:37:32 >> At least two. So at least two.
00:37:35 >> At least two. The more the better. And
00:37:37 that again goes along with inquiring
00:37:39 diligently. Right.
00:37:40 >> Right. Right. And then I will also bring
00:37:42 out if it’s someone who was against the
00:37:44 church, they didn’t consider their
00:37:45 testimony.
00:37:47 >> Yeah. Because obviously like they’re
00:37:49 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they got
00:37:51 >> but this isn’t regarding a specific
00:37:53 person, not the church, though.
00:37:55 >> Okay, that’s fair.
00:37:56 >> Right. Um
00:37:58 >> Right.
00:38:00 >> But I I I’m just saying some testimonies
00:38:02 are not considered and I’ll leave it at
00:38:04 that.
00:38:04 >> Okay, that’s true.
00:38:05 >> Yeah. And and and
00:38:08 that I can see and that I can concede.
00:38:11 But what I’m talking about, what I was
00:38:13 talking about earlier was within the
00:38:15 scope and realm of that particular area,
00:38:20 if that makes sense.
00:38:22 >> So if it’s in the church, so if it’s in
00:38:24 the church, the more witnesses, the
00:38:26 better. Period.
00:38:30 If it’s somebody who’s not a member of
00:38:32 the church and doesn’t know how the
00:38:33 church works, obviously
00:38:39 >> I think you can you can take the
00:38:41 statement, but that doesn’t really count
00:38:45 as a witness against them because
00:38:46 they’re not a member of the church and
00:38:48 they don’t know how the church works.
00:38:50 >> I
00:38:52 Let’s move on. We can talk about it
00:38:54 more. And actually 81 kind of goes along
00:38:57 with that.
00:38:59 as well. If you want to read 81, Zach,
00:39:05 >> but he or she shall be condemned by the
00:39:08 mouth of two witnesses,
00:39:10 and the elders shall lay the case before
00:39:13 the church, and the church shall lift up
00:39:16 their hands against him, or her that
00:39:19 they may be may be dealt with according
00:39:22 to the law of Elohim. Okay. So,
00:39:26 according to those witnesses,
00:39:29 they’re to be brought forward and dealt
00:39:32 with according to the law of Elohim.
00:39:35 Yeah. No, I I will bring up here. So,
00:39:37 >> the church
00:39:39 >> um there are two divisions of government
00:39:42 within Yahweh’s law. Okay.
00:39:44 >> Yeah. Right.
00:39:45 >> There is the church and then there is
00:39:47 the civil government. So, church
00:39:49 government and civil government.
00:39:51 >> Okay. Yeah. And so the most that the
00:39:54 church can do is excommunicate them and
00:39:58 then take them to the civil government
00:40:02 to do the actual execution. And the Book
00:40:04 of Mormon actually shows this that they
00:40:07 had to get permission of the governor or
00:40:09 or
00:40:12 >> I don’t remember the exact
00:40:14 >> the chief judge.
00:40:15 >> Oh,
00:40:16 >> no. I it
00:40:19 can I uh Go ahead. something that I’m
00:40:21 seeing in this
00:40:23 and that is
00:40:26 that the person who makes jud that the
00:40:28 that the people who make judgment as to
00:40:31 who’s to be in the church or not is not
00:40:33 the bishop.
00:40:34 >> No,
00:40:34 >> it’s the church. It’s the body of the
00:40:37 church.
00:40:38 >> Yes. And you’ll see that in Roni 6, too.
00:40:41 Um I mean six also I should say that
00:40:44 because the two can be interpreted
00:40:46 multiple ways. But anyways,
00:40:48 >> um but what I was getting at is how
00:40:53 um
00:40:55 the civil government is the one that
00:40:57 actually has power over capital
00:41:00 punishments, which is why it says the
00:41:02 church shall lift up their hands against
00:41:05 him or her or in other words, take them
00:41:08 >> take them to the
00:41:10 >> be dealt with according to the law.
00:41:12 >> Right? as in uh you don’t hide someone’s
00:41:17 sin. I I’ll just say this. The the LDS
00:41:20 church and other churches
00:41:21 >> hide the sins of their leaders. Okay.
00:41:24 >> Boy, do they boy do they
00:41:27 >> uh it’s not just the LDS church. The LDS
00:41:29 church one.
00:41:31 >> Well, the Catholic Church does it too.
00:41:33 The Protestants,
00:41:35 >> Protestants, Baptists, they all do it.
00:41:37 >> Even the small and the big, they do it.
00:41:39 Okay. But here it’s saying take them up
00:41:42 to the civil government for them to be
00:41:44 dealt with according to the law of
00:41:46 Elohim. And that is not by hiding it.
00:41:49 No,
00:41:50 >> they’re supposed to go to the public
00:41:52 judgment. Meaning it comes out what they
00:41:55 did. Even if they’re forgiven, it comes
00:41:58 out. Okay.
00:41:59 >> Yeah.
00:42:00 And you’ll see examples of that
00:42:02 throughout the scriptures that while
00:42:03 they’re bringing judgment, I if they
00:42:06 even if they’re found guilty, if they
00:42:09 have actually repented
00:42:12 is as if they’ve never done it.
00:42:14 >> Yeah.
00:42:16 >> But if they keep doing it and and and
00:42:19 here this section DNC 42, it actually
00:42:22 brings out if they do it twice on
00:42:24 adultery,
00:42:26 sorry.
00:42:27 >> Yeah. No, your repentance was not true.
00:42:31 >> And now you’re done.
00:42:33 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:34 >> Kind of a fool me once, shame on me.
00:42:36 >> Yeah.
00:42:36 >> Fool me twice, shame on me.
00:42:38 >> Yeah.
00:42:39 >> Yeah.
00:42:39 >> So, um it needs to be public for
00:42:43 multiple reasons and it it
00:42:46 >> Yeah. I
00:42:47 >> If your church is hiding things,
00:42:52 it’s not following Yahweh’s ways. Now,
00:42:54 it could be because the leaders, the
00:42:56 local leaders don’t know any better,
00:42:59 which could be the ca honestly could be
00:43:00 the case cuz they’re looking to their
00:43:03 the wrong place for the source.
00:43:07 But somewhere there’s a problem.
00:43:09 >> Yeah.
00:43:10 >> Because they’re not sticking to the word
00:43:11 of Yahw. It is Satan who hides sins.
00:43:16 It is Yes who forgives them openly.
00:43:19 Openly.
00:43:20 >> Yep.
00:43:21 >> Yeah. H I’m just going to point out that
00:43:25 uh his statement to the man in paralysis
00:43:28 was done in front of a a house so
00:43:30 crowded they couldn’t even get him in
00:43:31 the door.
00:43:33 >> Yeah, very good point.
00:43:35 >> Thy sins are forgiven thee.
00:43:38 >> As in that judgment was openly.
00:43:42 >> Yeah.
00:43:44 >> Yep.
00:43:46 Very good point. Thank you for bringing
00:43:48 that out. Let’s go to Hebrews chapter 10
00:43:51 verse 28
00:43:54 and
00:43:55 >> and Stephen if you read that
00:43:59 >> he that despises the law through Moses
00:44:02 oh wait yeah Moses’s law but this means
00:44:04 that the law that Yahweh gave through
00:44:06 Moses died without mercy under two or
00:44:09 three witnesses.
00:44:11 >> Okay so there again we see the two or
00:44:12 three witnesses. Now, um,
00:44:17 we we’re going to throw a little wrinkle
00:44:19 in there. It’s Deuteronomy 19:15-19.
00:44:23 This is what happens to false witnesses.
00:44:27 >> Oh, so if you lie about your witness,
00:44:28 >> if you’re lying about something in order
00:44:31 to get somebody into trouble. Well, I I
00:44:34 don’t So, I’ll just say I don’t think
00:44:35 this is a wrinkle.
00:44:37 >> Okay. I think it’s a it’s a it’s going
00:44:40 to a different
00:44:42 it’s to help to make sure witnesses
00:44:45 don’t lie because in today’s world a
00:44:49 witness can lie
00:44:52 >> and almost get away with it. though
00:44:53 there are some laws that are coming up
00:44:56 that um if a woman does a fault witness
00:45:00 on raping them there they’re going they
00:45:04 are starting to cause consequences to
00:45:07 happen to them because it’s becoming
00:45:09 more evident this is a bigger problem
00:45:11 though interestingly enough this goes
00:45:14 along with how I I actually very
00:45:17 strongly believe
00:45:19 Yahweh’s Torah actually has a lot of
00:45:22 answers to make the world a better
00:45:23 place. Yeah.
00:45:25 >> Mhm.
00:45:25 >> This is I I mean, okay, I if nothing
00:45:29 else, this is uh since Moses, but if a
00:45:35 it actually started with Adam and we
00:45:37 won’t get into that, okay? And I can
00:45:39 show that from the Book of Mormon and
00:45:41 the JST Bible and traditions,
00:45:46 okay? But anyways,
00:45:48 >> so
00:45:48 >> that this poor was around since Adam and
00:45:52 so Adam’s had the solutions. It says
00:45:55 people have rejected them because they
00:45:57 don’t want to get caught with their
00:45:59 consequences of their own sins.
00:46:01 >> Yeah.
00:46:02 >> They want for everybody else. They don’t
00:46:04 want it for themselves.
00:46:05 >> Okay.
00:46:06 >> Yes.
00:46:07 >> Um
00:46:08 >> Okay.
00:46:09 >> But this goes along to help prevent
00:46:12 false witnesses. Okay.
00:46:14 >> Yes. But uh 15, right?
00:46:16 >> Yeah.
00:46:17 >> One witness shall not rise up against a
00:46:20 man for any iniquity or for any sin. In
00:46:23 any sin that he sinnth at the mouth of
00:46:26 two witnesses or the mouth of three
00:46:28 witness shall the matter be established.
00:46:30 I don’t know if that’s the one you want.
00:46:32 >> No, he said 15 through 19.
00:46:35 >> 15 through 19.
00:46:37 >> Okay. It would help if I listened then.
00:46:40 If a false w Oh, here we go. If a false
00:46:42 witness rises up against any man to
00:46:45 testify against that which is wrong,
00:46:49 then both the man between whom the
00:46:52 controversy is shall stand before
00:46:55 Yahweh, before the priests and the
00:46:57 judges. Now, okay, so this is a little
00:47:00 tidbit here that the judges had the help
00:47:04 of the priests and the priests were
00:47:06 helping the judge to make sure he was
00:47:09 doing all his judgments and punishments
00:47:11 according to Torah. Okay.
00:47:13 >> Yeah. Okay.
00:47:14 >> They they were the priests uh the
00:47:16 Levitical priests were helpers to the
00:47:19 judges. Now, Levitical priests can be a
00:47:21 judge.
00:47:23 They didn’t have to be the judge, okay?
00:47:25 Okay. But they were there to help to
00:47:26 because they’re we
00:47:28 >> they were more studied in Torah.
00:47:31 >> Generally speaking, not always, but
00:47:33 generally speaking. Okay. It’s a um
00:47:36 >> I’m forgetting the term. It’s a
00:47:38 generality. Right. Anyway,
00:47:40 >> how many I wonder how many Catholic
00:47:42 priests would have died if they’d used
00:47:44 this? They used if they followed the
00:47:46 Bible during the time of the
00:47:47 Inquisition.
00:47:48 >> Oh, there would have been a wholesale
00:47:49 slaughter, let me tell you.
00:47:51 >> Well, there was a wholesale slaughter.
00:47:52 They were just killing the wrong people.
00:47:54 Well, and I will also say there’s uh LDS
00:47:57 bishops with how they hid things would
00:47:59 be having problems too.
00:48:00 >> Oh, yeah.
00:48:03 >> And and Jesuits, I mean, not Jesuits, uh
00:48:06 JDubs, Baptists, the list goes on and
00:48:09 on, which shall in those days and the
00:48:13 judges shall make diligent in
00:48:16 inquisition
00:48:17 as in trying to come down to the truth.
00:48:20 Okay.
00:48:20 >> Right. Right. And behold, if the witness
00:48:23 shall be a false witness or he lied
00:48:26 about his witness is what this is
00:48:28 saying. Okay.
00:48:28 >> Yep.
00:48:29 >> And hath testified falsely against his
00:48:33 brother or told a lie against his
00:48:36 brother and trying to get his brother to
00:48:39 get a a punishment. Okay.
00:48:41 >> Okay. So this this reminds a his a good
00:48:45 historical example of this is the Salem
00:48:48 witch hunts where that people would lie
00:48:50 and say that somebody was a witch so
00:48:52 they could get their land.
00:48:54 >> Yes.
00:48:55 >> Get the one person killed and then they
00:48:57 would get the deed to their land. Yes.
00:48:59 >> Yeah. It’s like they like Jezebel more
00:49:01 than Yahweh. Go figure.
00:49:04 >> It’s not like they did. It’s it’s that
00:49:07 they actually like Jezebel more than
00:49:09 they liked Yahweh.
00:49:11 >> Yeah. Anyway,
00:49:12 >> like there’s no like about it. That’s
00:49:15 what it was.
00:49:16 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then ye shall do unto
00:49:19 the him. But I’m gonna add in who this
00:49:22 is talking about. The
00:49:23 >> Then you shall do the liar. Then you
00:49:26 shall do unto the liar.
00:49:28 >> Yeah. Unto the lying witness as he had
00:49:31 thought to have done unto his brother or
00:49:34 the accused, the falsely accused. So
00:49:37 that thou shalt put away
00:49:40 the evil away from among you or the sin
00:49:44 away from among you. So this is bringing
00:49:47 out how it like in the case of adultery
00:49:49 which is a case that this is
00:49:51 specifically about the cap the
00:49:54 punishment for adultery is capital
00:49:57 punishment or death. Okay. Right.
00:49:59 >> They mean the same thing.
00:50:02 >> Yeah. The reason why the Pharisees and
00:50:05 the Sadducees dropped their stone is
00:50:08 because they knew they had a false
00:50:11 witness. Yeshua reminded them what in
00:50:15 the law would happen to them because of
00:50:17 their false witness and they knew it and
00:50:20 they didn’t want it.
00:50:22 >> Yep.
00:50:23 >> And that’s why they all dropped their
00:50:25 stones and ran away.
00:50:27 >> Yeah. Because Yeshua reminded them of
00:50:31 this right here.
00:50:33 >> Yes.
00:50:33 >> Right.
00:50:34 >> I know Andrew will say this later, but
00:50:36 I’m just going to say it now. The woman
00:50:38 caught in adultery does not say Torah
00:50:41 went away. It actually confirms Torah.
00:50:44 >> It actually confirms the entire Toric
00:50:48 justice process.
00:50:51 >> Yes. The problem was that the Sadducees
00:50:55 and the Pharisees were going against it
00:50:57 and Yeshua was calling them out for
00:51:00 actually going against Torah.
00:51:02 >> Yes. That is
00:51:03 >> Well, not only were they going against
00:51:04 Torah, they were going against Torah in
00:51:07 a manner to trip him up.
00:51:09 >> Yes.
00:51:09 >> Yes. Which is all
00:51:13 >> this is double trouble here.
00:51:14 >> Yeah. Torah actually brings out how you
00:51:17 should not be looking for your brother
00:51:20 to do an offense. Yes.
00:51:22 >> Yep.
00:51:22 >> So that’s another thing that they were
00:51:24 breaking. Now if you see it, take care
00:51:27 of it. Help them out to correct
00:51:30 themselves and go back and be in
00:51:32 alignment with Yahweh.
00:51:34 >> Yep.
00:51:35 >> But you should be going out trying to
00:51:37 trip them up and testing them and trying
00:51:40 to look for them to be doing it.
00:51:43 >> Right. Exactly.
00:51:45 >> Yeah. So, now we’re actually gonna get
00:51:48 into the story in John chapter 8.
00:51:53 >> We’ll get into Jeremiah.
00:51:54 >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, I I understand
00:51:56 it.
00:51:57 >> All right. So, we’re going to start off
00:51:58 in verse two.
00:52:00 >> All right. I’ll start reading.
00:52:02 In the early morning, he came again into
00:52:05 the temple, and all the people came unto
00:52:07 him, and he sat down and taught them.
00:52:09 Oh, wait. What? His location was the
00:52:13 temple.
00:52:14 >> So remind me just
00:52:17 temple was not at the gate, right?
00:52:19 >> No,
00:52:20 >> no, no. It was in the inner sanctum of
00:52:22 the city.
00:52:23 >> Fell inside the gate.
00:52:25 >> Okay. I I I just I cuz my my geography
00:52:29 is really bad. I wanted to make sure.
00:52:31 Okay. Your city plans. I’m not up to
00:52:34 date with the Jerusalem city plans.
00:52:37 Yeah. Whatever. I don’t know.
00:52:40 >> Okay. So, we’re verse two.
00:52:42 >> Uh, that was verse two. We just got
00:52:44 done. And the scribes and Pharisees
00:52:46 brought unto him a woman taken in
00:52:49 adultery. And when they had set her in
00:52:52 the midst,
00:52:53 >> okay, so wait.
00:52:54 >> Well, this is I guess what my point is.
00:52:57 Uh, the question I would always ask
00:52:58 myself is, well, where’s the dude?
00:53:01 Yeah. As we went from the very
00:53:03 beginning, it was a it was
00:53:07 it was adulterer and adulteress, which
00:53:10 is the man
00:53:12 >> and the woman.
00:53:13 >> The woman,
00:53:14 >> not just the woman, but the woman and
00:53:17 the man.
00:53:18 >> Okay. So, they’re they supposedly caught
00:53:21 her in the very act.
00:53:23 >> Yep.
00:53:24 >> Oh, that’s an expert. Sorry. Yeah.
00:53:26 >> But they didn’t think to bring the man.
00:53:30 That’s probably because
00:53:34 >> he was just too fast for him. He got
00:53:36 away.
00:53:37 >> No, I I think actually maybe
00:53:39 >> which is one of I speculate which is why
00:53:42 >> maybe it was one of them.
00:53:43 >> Oh yeah,
00:53:45 >> that’s one of the reasons why I
00:53:47 speculate that it was one of them. It’s
00:53:49 not stated openly, so it has to be
00:53:51 speculation. But
00:53:54 >> Right.
00:53:55 >> That’s why I said maybe.
00:53:56 >> Well, this is where we don’t know. I I I
00:53:59 don’t know if it was actually
00:54:01 >> I don’t either.
00:54:02 >> What we do know is that there was a
00:54:04 woman
00:54:06 >> and there was no man.
00:54:08 >> Well, what we do know is that this
00:54:10 >> was no man taken with her
00:54:13 >> to supposedly be judged.
00:54:16 >> Right. This is where I I actually wonder
00:54:19 if they just grabbed a woman of the
00:54:22 night in the street and just brought
00:54:24 her. But I I we don’t know
00:54:26 >> that. And that is a possibility.
00:54:29 >> Um, well, that’s true. It could have
00:54:31 been that, too.
00:54:33 >> Yeah.
00:54:33 >> Well,
00:54:33 >> because that was actually that was
00:54:36 actually a legal uh occupation in
00:54:40 Jerusalem.
00:54:42 >> Being a I don’t think so.
00:54:44 >> Yes, it was. It was legal.
00:54:45 >> Well, at that point, they were pretty
00:54:47 messed up. They They weren’t exactly
00:54:51 It wasn’t
00:54:51 >> obviously they weren’t following Torupt.
00:54:54 Well, yeah, but even just the
00:54:56 resemblance of it, I I just I don’t know
00:54:58 about that, but we let’s not focus on
00:55:00 it.
00:55:01 >> Okay, fair enough. Uh,
00:55:03 >> not worth it.
00:55:04 >> All right, just history.
00:55:06 >> Let’s let’s keep going. Um,
00:55:09 Brandon, can you read verse four for us
00:55:11 and verse five, maybe?
00:55:15 >> Yeah. Um, they say unto him, “Master,
00:55:19 this woman was taken in adultery in the
00:55:21 very act. Now Moses in the law commanded
00:55:24 us that such should be stoned, but what
00:55:27 sayest thou?
00:55:29 >> So I just want to say this real quick.
00:55:32 Uh that taking the very act. So meaning
00:55:37 meaning if she was taking the very act
00:55:39 where
00:55:39 >> that means they walked in on her
00:55:44 >> Yeah.
00:55:46 So this is not like I it’s not like he
00:55:51 could just run. The guy could just run
00:55:53 away.
00:55:53 >> No, he would done. He was too fast.
00:55:56 >> Well, he
00:55:57 >> Well, he was streaky. Perhaps he
00:56:00 somewhere.
00:56:01 >> Yeah. The next Usain Bolt here.
00:56:04 >> Perhaps. Perhaps
00:56:06 >> a streaking Usain Bolt, no less.
00:56:09 >> Perhaps he was a genuine minute man.
00:56:13 >> Oh god.
00:56:15 >> God.
00:56:18 >> Yeah, we’re not your typical religious
00:56:20 group here.
00:56:22 No.
00:56:23 >> Well,
00:56:26 this is kind of the catch 22 for him
00:56:28 here, too. Because um if he basically if
00:56:32 he’s saying that
00:56:36 she shouldn’t be stoned, he was going
00:56:38 against the law. But if he said that she
00:56:41 should be stoned, at that point the Jews
00:56:44 were not allowed to hand down punishment
00:56:47 to their people. They had to go before
00:56:49 the Romans. Oh, no. Capital punishment.
00:56:51 >> Capital punishment. My bad.
00:56:52 >> Capital punishment.
00:56:53 >> Yes. But in this case, it was a capital
00:56:55 punishment.
00:56:55 >> Yeah. Yes. So, I agree.
00:56:57 >> Crime committed. So, they’re trying to
00:56:59 put him between a rock and a hard place
00:57:01 by what they’re saying, by the question
00:57:03 they’re asking.
00:57:04 >> Right. Right. Now, I I do want to bring
00:57:05 out another thing. Law of Moses is the
00:57:09 punishment because of what happened at
00:57:12 uh Mount Si. Yeah.
00:57:14 >> Plus Torah. Okay.
00:57:16 >> Right. Mhm.
00:57:17 >> Uh, and this can be confusing and
00:57:20 sometimes it’s used in various ways, but
00:57:22 in here it is the punishments plus Torah
00:57:27 because he says in the law of Moses and
00:57:30 this goes along with JST, Exodus
00:57:33 uh 32 if I remember incorrectly. Okay,
00:57:36 among some other places, well, I I’ll
00:57:38 put a link to my law Moses page. Um, but
00:57:42 there is a a difference for law Moses
00:57:44 and Torah. Um,
00:57:46 >> okay. And also this just another side
00:57:50 note, verse 5 indicates a uh uh
00:57:54 indicates a lack of understanding of
00:57:57 where the law actually comes from
00:57:59 >> and says, “Now Moses and the law
00:58:01 commanded us.
00:58:02 >> It’s God through Moses who commanded
00:58:04 them.”
00:58:05 >> Well, I I I we’d have to go I would be
00:58:08 careful with that one because we’d have
00:58:10 to look at the actual Greek.
00:58:12 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:14 >> Because It could be a bad translation.
00:58:17 Um,
00:58:19 >> but there’s a possibility for that. And
00:58:21 that’s I I just I I’ve looked at enough
00:58:25 of Greek and the Hebrew that uh
00:58:29 >> there’s bad translations just as Joseph
00:58:32 Smith stated. I’ll leave it at that.
00:58:34 >> Yeah. But but the point is
00:58:37 the point is the law is the law is God’s
00:58:39 law. It’s not Moses.
00:58:41 >> Uh correct. That’s very true. And it’s
00:58:44 through Moses from Yahweh. And I will
00:58:47 agree with that. So
00:58:48 >> yeah, that and that was the entire
00:58:50 point.
00:58:51 >> Okay.
00:58:52 >> All right. So Josh, do you want to read
00:58:55 six and seven?
00:58:57 >> Sure.
00:58:59 >> This they said, tempting him that they
00:59:02 might have to accuse him. But Jesus
00:59:05 stooped down or Yeshua stooped down and
00:59:07 with his finger wrote on the ground as
00:59:10 though he heard them not. Time out.
00:59:11 >> So time out.
00:59:13 I think this is a good place to jump
00:59:15 into Jeremiah 17:13.
00:59:18 We’ll just go there real quick. Um,
00:59:22 so,
00:59:24 um, we’ll get to the other verse here in
00:59:26 a second. But, um, let’s see whose turn
00:59:29 is it?
00:59:31 John.
00:59:32 >> I’ll read it. I’ll read it.
00:59:33 >> Oh, Josh. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.
00:59:35 >> Oh Lord,
00:59:37 oh Yahweh, the hope of Yeshel,
00:59:40 all that forsake thee shall be ashamed.
00:59:42 Whatever.
00:59:43 >> And they that depart from me shall be
00:59:45 written in the earth. Uhoh.
00:59:49 Because they have forsaken Yahweh, the
00:59:51 fountain of living waters. Wait a
00:59:54 minute. So he was writing something on
00:59:58 the ground while they were
01:00:02 >> while they were forsaking his law. And
01:00:05 him.
01:00:05 >> Yeah. He was writing their names on the
01:00:08 ground.
01:00:08 >> Yeah. He was saying so much with no
01:00:11 words.
01:00:11 >> Yeah. And so I I I know this is kind of
01:00:15 controversial what he was writing, but
01:00:18 coupling what how they’re rejecting him
01:00:21 and his law
01:00:23 as we’ve gone over here, they’re they’re
01:00:26 the ones that were sinning that um in
01:00:31 how they were trying to bring someone to
01:00:33 judgment. Okay,
01:00:36 >> that’s the problem that gets bring out
01:00:37 later. Okay.
01:00:39 >> Right. Well, actually the very well the
01:00:41 very next verse actually, I think.
01:00:43 >> Yeah. Verse seven. So when they
01:00:45 continued asking him, he lifted up
01:00:47 himself and said unto them,
01:00:49 >> he that is without sin among you,
01:00:52 let him first cast a stone at her.
01:00:55 >> Yeah. Now this goes along with how uh
01:00:59 >> witnesses are the first to cast the
01:01:01 stones.
01:01:02 >> Yeah. that the witnesses are the first
01:01:04 ones to cast the stones. Okay? And so
01:01:07 sin is breaking Torah. So those who have
01:01:10 brought this woman to judgment according
01:01:13 to Torah instead of against Torah,
01:01:17 let him first by all means cast the
01:01:20 first stone,
01:01:21 >> right? And then because they knew that
01:01:24 they were bearing essentially a false
01:01:26 witness
01:01:30 in the next couple verses. Yeah. that
01:01:32 comes up in the next couple verses.
01:01:34 >> In addition, we shouldn’t go around
01:01:36 tempting people on purpose. Okay.
01:01:39 >> Yeah. Because that’s a sin. Because
01:01:41 that’s a sin. It goes against Torah. It
01:01:43 is a sin.
01:01:44 >> Yes. Uh and this is here. Here they’re
01:01:47 trying to make him sin.
01:01:50 >> And that’s that in itself is a sin.
01:01:52 Okay. Now, if you see people doing it,
01:01:55 learn from it, okay?
01:01:58 >> And talk to them about it and whatnot.
01:02:00 Okay? But you don’t go try to trip them
01:02:04 up on purpose. Yes.
01:02:06 >> Right. Right.
01:02:09 >> And that in itself is a sin. So if you
01:02:14 know actually
01:02:15 if you actually know Torah, you see
01:02:19 through this whole incident through
01:02:21 here, it is actually confirming Torah,
01:02:24 not going against it. The problem is
01:02:28 >> nobody knows Torah.
01:02:30 >> Hardly anybody knows Torah. And people
01:02:32 hear these things that they from people
01:02:34 they think are experts in it and they’re
01:02:37 really not. And so they get led astray
01:02:40 by false teachers as in Second Nephi
01:02:43 28:14.
01:02:46 Mhm. Mhm.
01:02:48 >> Um and so then they just
01:02:54 they get very confused and those who are
01:02:56 actually trying to bring out the word
01:02:58 and actually keep it, they’re actually
01:03:00 putting down not knowing any better
01:03:02 because they don’t know where to look.
01:03:05 I’ll tell you where to look. Go read
01:03:07 your Bible and your Book of Mormon and
01:03:08 your DNC.
01:03:09 >> Yep.
01:03:10 >> Right.
01:03:11 >> And go read your whole lectures on
01:03:14 faith.
01:03:15 >> Yes. 10 lectures on faith. Um, now get a
01:03:18 teacher that focuses on those words and
01:03:21 helps you understand those words and
01:03:23 doesn’t just say some things from their
01:03:25 own
01:03:27 wicked mind.
01:03:30 No,
01:03:31 >> right.
01:03:32 >> Yep.
01:03:33 >> All right. Sorry about that. No, you’re
01:03:35 fine. Um, so John, do you want to read 8
01:03:39 and 9
01:03:41 >> of Jeremiah 17?
01:03:42 >> No, no, no. Sorry. on eight. Yeah.
01:03:46 >> Uh eight and nake.
01:03:49 >> Eight and nine. Yes. And again, he
01:03:51 stooped down and wrote on the ground.
01:03:53 >> More names. Okay.
01:03:55 >> More more of the
01:03:56 >> Oh, it doesn’t specifically say it, but
01:03:59 I do.
01:03:59 >> He wrote something else on the ground.
01:04:01 Right. Okay.
01:04:02 >> He he wrote their names because
01:04:03 >> here’s a funny little he was he was he
01:04:07 was giving a Latin grammar lesson on the
01:04:09 ground.
01:04:09 >> No, no, no, no, no, no. Here’s another
01:04:12 idea. Here’s another funny idea.
01:04:14 He’s taking a head count. He’s like, “I
01:04:17 got you. I missed you.” Okay, write his
01:04:20 name down. No, I’m just kidding. Uh, but
01:04:22 anyway, uh,
01:04:23 >> which guys are we going to have stones
01:04:25 for the stoning for?
01:04:29 >> Okay, moving moving on to
01:04:33 >> And they return heard it being convicted
01:04:35 by their own conscience.
01:04:38 >> And why why were they convicted by their
01:04:40 own conscience? Because they were knew
01:04:43 they were freaking breaking Torah.
01:04:45 >> Well, and they knew Jeremiah 17.
01:04:48 >> Yes.
01:04:49 >> Yes.
01:04:50 >> Specifically 13.
01:04:51 >> Yep.
01:04:52 >> He Yeshua was reminding them that they
01:04:56 were rejecting Yahweh in his ways. When
01:05:00 you reject his ways, you’re actually
01:05:02 rejecting Yahweh.
01:05:03 >> Yes.
01:05:04 >> Yeah.
01:05:06 >> Those two are so integral together. You
01:05:08 can’t love someone and hate him ways.
01:05:13 Right.
01:05:16 >> Now, you can you can tell a lie and say
01:05:18 that you do and then do something else.
01:05:20 But really, in real life, what you do
01:05:24 bespeaks
01:05:26 or says more than what your words do,
01:05:28 what you actually do.
01:05:30 >> Yeah. You love a person because of who
01:05:34 they are and why they do things.
01:05:36 >> Yes.
01:05:37 >> Not because of what they say.
01:05:39 >> Right. And and if you just like them
01:05:41 because of their title, you’re more
01:05:45 >> well, you’re pretty sure
01:05:46 >> more envious of them. If it’s just that
01:05:48 you just want their position, right?
01:05:51 >> And and there’s there it I I do like in
01:05:53 verse 9 how it gives that detail about
01:05:57 how they left.
01:05:58 >> Well, let let me let me read it. Let me
01:06:01 read it.
01:06:01 >> Sorry, we jumped ahead.
01:06:03 went out one by one, beginning at the
01:06:07 eldest, even unto the last, and Yeshua
01:06:10 was left alone, and the woman standing
01:06:13 in the midst. So, the eldest knew
01:06:17 >> the Torah, and they moved every fence.
01:06:21 >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh
01:06:22 >> the first
01:06:24 >> to the last
01:06:26 >> and the youngest maybe didn’t know so
01:06:28 well, but suddenly their confidence was
01:06:30 deserting them. Now I I want to say this
01:06:32 is not necess Now now I understand why
01:06:34 people take this as age. I don’t think
01:06:37 it is. The elders are those ones who are
01:06:40 schooled in Torah.
01:06:42 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:06:43 >> Cuz it doesn’t say youngest. It says
01:06:45 unto the last.
01:06:47 >> That’s true. That’s true.
01:06:48 >> This is the ones that are more educated
01:06:52 >> to know because I I mean I I’ve been
01:06:54 around
01:06:56 there are those who are older that
01:06:59 really don’t know much. Okay, I know
01:07:01 that sounds horrible, but it’s true. The
01:07:04 elders are those are the leaders in the
01:07:07 church
01:07:08 >> or in a group. Those who are studied and
01:07:11 know what should be happening.
01:07:14 >> Basically, they’re saying beginning at
01:07:16 the highest at the highest rank,
01:07:20 >> I guess, and then going down to the
01:07:22 lowest.
01:07:24 >> With Say it again, Ben.
01:07:26 >> Beginning at the most learned.
01:07:28 >> Yes.
01:07:29 >> Okay. down to the least part of it.
01:07:32 >> Yes. I I I do not think it’s age,
01:07:35 >> right?
01:07:36 the knowledge and teachings
01:07:38 >> and that’s and that’s and that’s you
01:07:42 know and I didn’t necessarily say it the
01:07:43 best but I the it came down to elders
01:07:47 the idea of elders the elders of the
01:07:49 people those are the people who are in
01:07:51 charge the people who know um in the in
01:07:56 the five books of Moses the elders
01:08:00 >> in the in the f in the yeah in the five
01:08:02 books of Moses the elders of the people
01:08:04 got to see almost everything that Moses
01:08:06 saw. They got to they got to eat a meal
01:08:09 in the in the presence of Yahw.
01:08:11 >> Yeah. And then you also if you go look
01:08:13 at actual correct church government,
01:08:17 >> it is the elders who are studied. Um it
01:08:21 it’s not given out because of age
01:08:24 >> to go along with that point again.
01:08:27 >> Yeah.
01:08:30 So it’s it’s not just given to somebody
01:08:32 because they can win the snorefest at a
01:08:34 at an LDS chapel.
01:08:37 >> No, it’s not. Thank you.
01:08:40 >> Oh, all right.
01:08:41 >> Not just given to somebody because they
01:08:43 can outlive uh all the other guys.
01:08:46 >> No, it’s not.
01:08:48 >> Oh,
01:08:48 >> yeah. Elder does not mean eldest as far
01:08:51 as age goes,
01:08:52 >> right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
01:08:55 >> Who is next? Is it Ben? Wait, wait. We
01:08:57 didn’t finish. Oh, sorry. I said the big
01:08:59 mouth. I’m sorry.
01:09:00 >> Okay. No, he did. He did. He finished
01:09:03 it. He finished the book.
01:09:04 >> He went left alone.
01:09:06 >> No. No. Yeah. Uh, Left Alone.
01:09:08 >> Yeah, I did. I read the whole thing.
01:09:11 >> I read. My bad. Sorry.
01:09:13 >> All right. So, um,
01:09:15 >> okay. So, I want to bring out So, if
01:09:17 Yes, it was left alone,
01:09:19 >> that means there’s no witnesses.
01:09:21 >> No, no, no, no, no witnesses.
01:09:25 >> Wait. I I I just want to think out loud
01:09:28 here. How many witnesses do we need to
01:09:31 condemn someone to death?
01:09:32 >> At least two.
01:09:33 >> At least two.
01:09:34 >> At least two.
01:09:36 >> Yeah. Okay.
01:09:37 >> What do we have here? What do we have
01:09:38 here? We have a judge. We have the
01:09:42 >> defendant,
01:09:42 >> I guess. Accused.
01:09:44 >> Yes.
01:09:45 >> Except that they’re not except that her
01:09:47 accusers aren’t there. So, is she even
01:09:48 accused anymore? Um, and
01:09:52 >> yeah. Well, let’s let’s look at that.
01:09:55 Ben, would you like to to read uh 10 and
01:09:58 11? But let’s start with 10.
01:10:01 >> John 8 start with 11.
01:10:04 >> Yeah. When
01:10:05 >> Yeah, we’ll start with 11 and go down to
01:10:06 10.
01:10:08 >> No.
01:10:08 >> Sure. It
01:10:10 >> Sorry.
01:10:10 >> Okay. You want me to read it backwards?
01:10:13 >> No. No, no, no.
01:10:16 >> Nor right to left. Okay.
01:10:19 >> When Yeshua had lifted himself, lifted
01:10:22 up himself and saw none but the woman
01:10:24 No, woman.
01:10:27 >> What? What? Josh,
01:10:30 >> he’s reading it backwards.
01:10:32 >> He’s reading it backwards.
01:10:34 >> That again.
01:10:35 >> Start over, Ben. Cuz Josh was being
01:10:37 >> Sorry. I forgot. I I had I I I forgot to
01:10:41 hit mute before I started doing that.
01:10:42 I’m sorry.
01:10:44 >> That’s fine, Ben. Just read it again.
01:10:46 >> When Yeshua had lifted up himself and
01:10:49 saw nothing but the woman, he
01:10:52 >> Wait, wait, no. No. I I I’m going to be
01:10:54 a dork here. None but the woman. So, no
01:10:57 supposed witnesses.
01:11:00 >> Yeah. Yeah. That’s what it sounds like.
01:11:02 >> Not even not even an accuser.
01:11:05 >> Right.
01:11:06 >> All right.
01:11:07 >> He said get into that here.
01:11:09 >> He said unto her, “Woman, where are
01:11:12 thine accusers?”
01:11:14 >> Hath no man condemn thee?
01:11:17 >> Yeah. Where’s the two witnesses that’s
01:11:19 required by the law against thee? Right.
01:11:22 Right. That’s that’s it. She’s just not
01:11:26 condemned under the law.
01:11:28 >> Doesn’t mean she didn’t commit the sin.
01:11:31 >> Well, we’ll get there. Let’s finish the
01:11:33 >> Okay.
01:11:35 I don’t know if the
01:11:37 >> They have not met the requirement that’s
01:11:39 needed to do a judgment against her. I
01:11:42 don’t
01:11:43 >> She is condemned by the law, but they
01:11:45 don’t have what’s required to
01:11:48 >> uh do a punishment against her,
01:11:51 >> right?
01:11:52 >> Very correction. Thank you.
01:11:54 >> Yeah. Yeah. I I’m being technical,
01:11:56 Timmy. But it is an important that is
01:11:58 important. That that part is important.
01:12:00 >> That’s an important technicality. So,
01:12:02 good correction. Uh she said, “No man,
01:12:07 Adon.”
01:12:08 And when Yeshua said, And Yeshua said
01:12:11 unto her, “Neither do I condemn thee.
01:12:15 Go
01:12:16 and sin no more.”
01:12:22 >> Wait, I
01:12:23 did he forgive her? I’m confused.
01:12:26 >> I don’t see a word that said, “Go, thy
01:12:28 sins are forgiven thee.” I don’t see
01:12:29 that.
01:12:30 >> He said He said, “I don’t condemn you.
01:12:34 And we’re gonna get into that as in you
01:12:35 don’t.
01:12:36 >> This is the thing. This is the thing.
01:12:38 This is the thing. The judge cannot
01:12:41 condemn someone who had with no
01:12:45 witnesses and no accuser.
01:12:49 >> Yeah. So, I I think we should probably
01:12:51 go Sorry.
01:12:52 >> Yeah. Let’s let’s look up the the
01:12:54 definition of condemn real quick uh in
01:12:58 the 1828
01:12:59 uh Webster’s dictionary. Um, so yeah. So
01:13:07 looking at the definitions here, to
01:13:09 pronounce to be utterly wrong. That
01:13:11 doesn’t look like it fits here.
01:13:13 >> That didn’t happen. There was no
01:13:15 witnesses.
01:13:16 >> To determine or judge, to be wrong or
01:13:19 guilty.
01:13:20 >> Wait, no judgment could happen according
01:13:22 to Torah.
01:13:23 >> Nope.
01:13:25 >> To witness against or to show or prove
01:13:27 to be wrong. That doesn’t really fit
01:13:30 either
01:13:30 >> because the witness is chickenened out.
01:13:32 >> Yeah.
01:13:33 >> Yeah.
01:13:33 >> However, uh the fourth the fourth
01:13:36 definition I think fits best what is
01:13:39 supposed to be happening here. It says
01:13:42 to pronounce to be guilty to sentence to
01:13:45 punishment to utter sentence against
01:13:47 judicially
01:13:49 to doom oppose to acquit or absolve with
01:13:54 to before the penalty. Yeah. So
01:13:56 basically
01:13:57 >> so
01:13:58 >> when you take that definition with the
01:14:00 words neither do I condemn thee. Where
01:14:02 is the concept of forgiveness in that
01:14:05 >> it’s not there. It’s just saying I
01:14:08 according to Torah I can’t I can’t give
01:14:10 you a punishment.
01:14:11 >> I I can’t legally judge you to give you
01:14:14 a punishment.
01:14:14 >> However with the followon statement go
01:14:17 and sin no more. He’s acknowledging the
01:14:19 fact that she has sinned
01:14:23 >> and that she should sin no more
01:14:25 >> and that Torah condemns her.
01:14:27 >> Right.
01:14:28 >> Right. Well, and then five, to doom or
01:14:31 to sentenced. Yeshua was the judge here.
01:14:34 He could not sentence because the
01:14:37 qualifications
01:14:38 to make a sentence
01:14:40 >> were not satisfied.
01:14:42 >> Yeah.
01:14:42 >> They had not been met. Yes. And then
01:14:45 also six to judge or pronounce to be
01:14:49 unfit for use of service. Okay. That has
01:14:52 to do with military.
01:14:54 >> Yes.
01:14:54 >> Yes. It also has with houses. It also
01:14:56 has to do with houses
01:15:00 >> buildings and
01:15:02 cars and
01:15:04 >> Yeah.
01:15:05 >> Yeah. Yeah. But the the the judge Yeshua
01:15:08 did not have what was legally required
01:15:12 to do a judgment.
01:15:14 >> Yeah.
01:15:16 >> Yes.
01:15:18 >> And yet that final statement that he
01:15:20 gives to her tells her that he knows
01:15:24 that she has sinned.
01:15:25 >> Yeah. Don’t Don’t do it anymore.
01:15:27 >> Yep. Right.
01:15:30 >> Yeah. Don’t do it again.
01:15:32 >> Y
01:15:33 >> Yeah. Or or any sin anymore. But
01:15:35 specifically, don’t do that one again.
01:15:37 This one’s like really grievous
01:15:39 >> because guess what? Next time
01:15:42 >> they might they might have enough to get
01:15:46 you stoned.
01:15:48 >> Yeah. Yeah. Or Yeah. I mean, sadly, the
01:15:51 Sadducees and Pharisees didn’t do uh
01:15:54 judgments according to Torah has been
01:15:56 brought out with a prime example of
01:15:58 Yeshua, including doing at night.
01:16:02 >> Yeah, that was wrong. And guess what? It
01:16:04 also was not at the gate. It was in
01:16:07 >> No, it was not room.
01:16:09 >> So,
01:16:10 >> so it when I was in school and I was
01:16:13 trying to learn to be a teacher, there
01:16:15 was a one of my teachers told me a
01:16:18 method that seemed to work. It was tell
01:16:21 them what you’re going to tell them.
01:16:22 Tell them and then tell them what you
01:16:24 told them. Okay. So, we’re we’re now
01:16:26 going to get into the summary. The tell
01:16:28 them what you told them is basically a
01:16:30 summary. Okay. Okay. We’re going to go
01:16:32 over this one more time. The penalty for
01:16:35 committing adultery for the man and the
01:16:37 woman caught in adultery is death.
01:16:39 >> Okay.
01:16:40 >> Both. You need
01:16:40 >> death.
01:16:41 >> Both of them
01:16:43 >> death. But death counts.
01:16:45 >> Okay.
01:16:45 >> Emphasizing.
01:16:46 >> Okay. Yes. Yes. Especially if you catch
01:16:48 them in the very act. What you have to
01:16:51 do to be a witness?
01:16:52 >> Yep.
01:16:53 >> Yep.
01:16:54 >> You bring them both.
01:16:55 >> Yes.
01:16:56 >> Right. You bring them both and they are
01:16:58 both and if the conditions are met then
01:17:00 they are to both die by stoning.
01:17:03 >> Yes.
01:17:05 >> At the gate.
01:17:06 >> Right. And not temple. And at first by
01:17:09 the witnesses that actually witnessed
01:17:12 it. True witnesses, not false ones.
01:17:16 >> Yeah.
01:17:17 >> Okay.
01:17:18 >> Because otherwise there’s more stoning
01:17:20 that has to happen.
01:17:23 >> Yeah.
01:17:24 >> Who knows the stoning may
01:17:26 to you.
01:17:27 >> Yeah. Yeah.
01:17:29 >> So, yes, the judgment is supposed to
01:17:32 take place and the stoning is supposed
01:17:34 to take place out at the city gate.
01:17:37 Okay. Um, it’s supposed to be done by
01:17:40 two or three witnesses,
01:17:42 true witnesses.
01:17:44 >> It’s supposed to be substantiated by
01:17:48 >> by at least two witnesses,
01:17:50 >> right?
01:17:51 If there is a false witness, that person
01:17:53 is to be dealt with in the same way
01:17:54 you’re supposed to be dealt that the
01:17:56 accused is supposed to be dealt with if
01:17:58 they found guilty.
01:18:00 >> If they would have been found guilty
01:18:01 >> if they would have been found guilty.
01:18:02 >> Yes.
01:18:02 >> Right.
01:18:03 >> Or were because then it could come out
01:18:05 later that they were false witnesses.
01:18:07 Yes.
01:18:08 >> Yeah.
01:18:09 >> And as we saw in the story of the woman
01:18:12 caught in adultery, um this was handled
01:18:15 in every instance it was handled
01:18:17 completely wrong. Um they brought Why
01:18:20 the Pharisees?
01:18:22 Well, okay. Yeah, sorry.
01:18:24 >> The Sadducees,
01:18:26 >> the Pharisees and Sadducees, they
01:18:28 basically did everything wrong. Okay,
01:18:31 >> they only brought the woman. They didn’t
01:18:32 bring the man. They should have both be
01:18:35 been brought. They brought him to the
01:18:36 temple and not the gate. Okay, that was
01:18:40 wrong. They were trying to trick Yeshua
01:18:44 into
01:18:46 >> doing something wrong. Well, they were
01:18:49 trying to get it uh put them between a
01:18:51 rock and a hard spot because Romans took
01:18:54 away capital punishment from them. Uh
01:18:57 and so if they if he would have said
01:19:00 they need to stone, he was going to then
01:19:02 they were going to take them to Caesar
01:19:03 say look, he’s saying to do something
01:19:05 you don’t allow.
01:19:06 >> Yep.
01:19:08 >> Or if he didn’t say that, he’s like he’s
01:19:10 not keeping Torah.
01:19:12 >> Right.
01:19:12 >> Yeah. And then uh we also saw here that
01:19:18 um they were shown to be um false
01:19:22 witnesses by Yeshua.
01:19:24 >> Well, on on the reverse side, as poorly
01:19:27 as the Pharisees and Sadducees handled
01:19:29 that situation in accordance with Torah,
01:19:31 Yeshua followed Torah to the letter.
01:19:35 >> Yes. to the letter for the entire time
01:19:40 >> that they were trying to trip him up
01:19:42 >> with this false
01:19:46 narrative that they were building and
01:19:48 well a false
01:19:50 >> pretext I guess that they were trying to
01:19:53 build
01:19:54 >> especially if there was any credence
01:19:56 especially if there’s any credence to
01:19:58 the tradition that he was writing their
01:20:00 names
01:20:01 >> in this
01:20:02 >> right
01:20:04 >> I think it There it it is an
01:20:06 interpretation. I do think it is the
01:20:08 correct one. And now within Torah, there
01:20:12 is the fact that Yeshua takes us out of
01:20:16 the dust, Satan’s domain
01:20:20 >> into
01:20:21 to be celestialized or have our
01:20:25 character as it is in Torah. Okay.
01:20:29 >> Right. Now I whether or not if Jeremiah
01:20:33 said that statement about their names or
01:20:36 character be written in the dust. It’s
01:20:40 in Genesis. Yeah.
01:20:41 >> If Jeremiah said it at all or not.
01:20:44 >> Yeah.
01:20:45 >> I bet you not I I that I’ll add it to my
01:20:50 list of people I want to talk to and
01:20:52 what I’ll want to ask them. Jeremiah,
01:20:54 where’d you get that from? Was it from
01:20:55 Genesis?
01:20:57 Yeah. And
01:20:57 >> he’ll be like, “Bears poop in the
01:21:00 woods.”
01:21:02 >> Is the
01:21:03 >> Or in other words, yes. Right.
01:21:05 >> Yeah. In other words, in other words,
01:21:07 yes. That’s exactly where I got it from.
01:21:10 >> Yeah. I I I mean, I don’t know, but I I
01:21:12 can I see it myself. Okay.
01:21:15 >> Yeah.
01:21:16 >> And and I don’t I’ll be honest, I don’t
01:21:19 know any other place that it’s there
01:21:23 >> other than the Genesis
01:21:25 history. Okay.
01:21:28 >> Yeah.
01:21:29 >> And a lot of this
01:21:33 is I’ve spent some time trying to
01:21:34 understand things from the Hebrew
01:21:36 perspective instead of the Greek that I
01:21:38 grew up with.
01:21:40 >> Yeah.
01:21:42 >> If you want to understand Yeshua and his
01:21:45 words,
01:21:46 learn his culture.
01:21:50 Don’t try to fit it into yours.
01:21:54 >> Learn his. That is how you will come to
01:21:57 understand him. When you when you find a
01:22:02 special
01:22:03 girlfriend or boyfriend depending on
01:22:05 your sex,
01:22:08 you don’t just like say I love you and
01:22:12 and that’s it. You actually start
01:22:14 learning about them. You start learning
01:22:16 about their background. Mhm.
01:22:19 >> You start you start learning what makes
01:22:21 them tick, what makes them happy, what
01:22:24 makes them angry, what makes them laugh,
01:22:27 >> what makes them tick.
01:22:28 >> And you on the ticking part, you try to
01:22:31 find out
01:22:33 um their history, their background to
01:22:36 try to help understand where they’re
01:22:37 coming from.
01:22:38 >> Yeah.
01:22:40 >> If you love Yeshua,
01:22:42 do the exact same thing for him.
01:22:46 >> Amen. Amen.
01:22:48 >> Yeah.
01:22:48 >> Yeah.
01:22:49 >> Um
01:22:51 so
01:22:51 >> and don’t and stop trying to weaponize
01:22:54 his words against him.
01:22:58 >> Yeah. Yeah. Against Yeshua because
01:23:00 that’s I’ll just tell you where that’ll
01:23:02 put you. It’s not where
01:23:05 John chapter it’ll put you in John
01:23:07 chapter eight. Uh anyway,
01:23:10 >> let me just say this.
01:23:12 >> Let me just say this real quick, Andy.
01:23:14 It’ll put you in creek.
01:23:16 Well, well, and I I I think that a a
01:23:20 more prime example is Satan tempting
01:23:23 Yeshua during his 40 days.
01:23:25 >> Absolutely.
01:23:26 >> Fasting.
01:23:27 >> Amen.
01:23:28 >> You’ll get put in your place.
01:23:30 >> Yep.
01:23:32 >> Why are you trying to quote my
01:23:34 scriptures to me
01:23:36 >> or try to use them against me? I mean,
01:23:38 what
01:23:40 >> where do you think this came from?
01:23:42 >> Yeah. He He’s sitting there with like
01:23:44 >> He says what? He says what he’ll say.
01:23:48 >> Depart from me, ye that work
01:23:50 lawlessness.
01:23:51 >> Yep.
01:23:51 >> Yeah.
01:23:53 >> You never knew me.
01:23:55 >> You never knew me.
01:23:57 >> Yep.
01:23:59 >> Yes.
01:23:59 >> That’s what it’ll say.
01:24:01 >> So now I just uh I so people are aware
01:24:05 Ben quoted the Joseph Smith correction
01:24:08 and not the King James.
01:24:10 >> So
01:24:11 >> yes. Yeah. Anyways,
01:24:13 >> so I I um
01:24:17 yeah, I just want to say like everything
01:24:21 in this story affirms Torah.
01:24:24 Torah is the mind and will of God
01:24:28 of of uh Yahweh.
01:24:31 Um,
01:24:32 and I know a lot of people try to twist
01:24:34 this uh this passage of scripture into
01:24:39 um, you know, the the he’s overriding
01:24:43 the law and forgiving her and all this
01:24:45 other stuff. That’s not what it’s doing.
01:24:47 So, I just want to say on this, they do
01:24:49 try to make it all only about
01:24:51 forgiveness. Yeah.
01:24:52 >> Okay. The interesting thing is if that’s
01:24:55 what they believe Yeshua is doing, why
01:24:57 aren’t they just openly and freely uh
01:25:00 forgiving anybody and everybody for
01:25:02 everything that they’ve done?
01:25:04 >> Yeah.
01:25:04 >> Cuz that’s what they’re trying to make
01:25:06 it out that Yeshua did. And if they
01:25:08 claim to want to be like Yeshua and
01:25:11 that’s what they believe what Yeshua is
01:25:12 doing here, although incorrectly,
01:25:14 they’re not doing it themselves.
01:25:16 >> They should instantly forgive that
01:25:18 person who robs them
01:25:20 >> in. Well, in fact, they say the law’s
01:25:23 done away with, so they’re not even rob
01:25:27 they’re using to say that they’re
01:25:29 robbing him. But anyways,
01:25:30 >> that’s true on either
01:25:33 >> then it just becomes a law of
01:25:34 convenience.
01:25:36 >> Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, sorry. No, it’s
01:25:39 fine. I I just wanted to share that I I
01:25:44 you know, Torah is Yah’s law. Um Yeshua
01:25:50 when he was on the earth, everything
01:25:52 that he taught
01:25:54 affirmed the Torah.
01:25:57 Okay. And just John one brings out how
01:26:00 Yeshua is the perfect personification.
01:26:03 >> Yeah. He’s the perfect personification
01:26:04 of Torah.
01:26:05 >> As in he kept it perfectly. Yeah.
01:26:07 >> You want to be like Yeshua.
01:26:10 >> A lot of people will just love to say
01:26:12 that, but when it actually comes to
01:26:14 doing it, they fight against it. Well, I
01:26:17 will say this. A lot of people say um a
01:26:21 lot of people say that they want to be
01:26:22 like Yeshua when they’re trying to
01:26:24 remind other people to cut them some
01:26:26 slack.
01:26:28 >> Yeah.
01:26:29 >> Well, but they but when it comes down to
01:26:34 actually finding out what Yeshua did and
01:26:36 doing it, they don’t give
01:26:38 >> Yeah.
01:26:39 >> two screws.
01:26:42 >> That’s true. That’s a weird way of
01:26:44 saying it. Well,
01:26:45 >> again, like I was saying though, it’s um
01:26:49 everything that he taught
01:26:52 was Torah. And again, like like u um
01:26:57 >> Stephen
01:26:58 >> Steven, sorry, like Stephen was saying,
01:27:00 he was the person perfect
01:27:01 personification
01:27:03 of living the law. He was perfect,
01:27:06 meaning he did not sin. Meaning he did
01:27:08 never broke the law, which actually is
01:27:12 one of the requirements for him to be
01:27:14 able to perform the atonement for us.
01:27:16 >> Oh, you mean lamb without blemish?
01:27:19 >> Yes.
01:27:19 >> Well, yes. I think though more poignant
01:27:23 is the lamb without a broken bone
01:27:26 because the bones are symbolic of law.
01:27:28 >> Right. Right. And that’s what I was
01:27:30 getting at.
01:27:31 >> Yeah. So,
01:27:31 >> I know a lot of people think land
01:27:33 without blemish is like, oh, can’t have
01:27:34 any spots, can’t have any whatever. No,
01:27:37 >> that’s not that’s not right. That’s not
01:27:39 right. But,
01:27:39 >> no. And so, the blemish has to do more
01:27:42 with wounds.
01:27:43 >> Yeah.
01:27:44 >> Correct. Yeah.
01:27:45 >> The point that I’m trying to make
01:27:47 though,
01:27:49 >> sorry. If you are
01:27:52 like I
01:27:56 I I guess the point I’m trying to make
01:27:57 here is
01:28:00 if you don’t think that Yeshua spent his
01:28:04 whole life keeping and teaching the law,
01:28:08 maybe it’s about time that we actually
01:28:10 learn about what is actually in the law
01:28:13 and what is not. what is his law and
01:28:16 what is not um from the traditions, you
01:28:20 know, apart from
01:28:23 I’ve had a lot of people tell me what
01:28:25 they believe is in the law and it
01:28:27 actually isn’t.
01:28:29 >> Okay. So, what
01:28:31 >> Well, I was going to add to that that uh
01:28:33 a lot of people think they know what
01:28:35 Torah is, but they don’t. They don’t.
01:28:38 They haven’t actually gone and studied
01:28:40 it.
01:28:40 >> Yeah. They they they’ve learned
01:28:43 precedences against it in Christianity.
01:28:46 >> Yeah.
01:28:47 >> Or Judaism that loves to keep their oral
01:28:49 Torah or their false traditions of men
01:28:52 instead of Torah.
01:28:55 >> They they don’t actually know it.
01:28:57 >> Yeah.
01:28:58 >> Well,
01:28:58 >> they know what they other people that
01:29:00 they think are experts say about it, but
01:29:03 they haven’t actually studied it out
01:29:04 themselves. And and so they come forward
01:29:09 um making b making bold statements
01:29:12 against the mind and will of yuk
01:29:16 without receipts
01:29:18 >> or evidence or versus show
01:29:22 or even understanding what the heck it
01:29:24 is.
01:29:25 >> I know. How can you have receipts? How
01:29:28 can you have receipts if you don’t even
01:29:29 know what you’re going against?
01:29:32 >> That’s the point. It’s like it’s not
01:29:33 even receipts. They are clueless. They
01:29:35 don’t have a
01:29:37 right. But anyway, I I I guess I I want
01:29:42 to encourage anybody who doesn’t
01:29:44 understand
01:29:47 like what Stephen said earlier, go and
01:29:50 try to understand the culture in which
01:29:52 he lived. go and try to understand
01:29:57 the written law as written in the first
01:30:01 five books of the Old Testament. Also
01:30:05 read I mean you got to read your whole
01:30:06 scriptures in order to figure out what
01:30:08 Torah is for sure. But you get a good
01:30:10 baseline knowledge. The first part it’s
01:30:14 um two great commandments. Love God,
01:30:16 love your neighbor and yourself.
01:30:18 >> And yourself. Ten commandments. Five of
01:30:21 them teaching us how to love God. five
01:30:23 of them teaching us how to love our
01:30:24 neighbor
01:30:25 >> and ourselves
01:30:27 >> and yeah
01:30:29 sure
01:30:31 >> whatever I’m sorry I couldn’t help
01:30:34 myself
01:30:35 >> and and then like all the commentary
01:30:37 from all the prophets from all the
01:30:39 scriptures that’s also Torah which fits
01:30:44 it’s giving expounding how to do the
01:30:47 five how to love Yahweh and then the
01:30:49 five how to love others and yourself.
01:30:51 >> Yes. And by the way, by the way,
01:30:55 every single one of those subcomandments
01:30:58 within the first five books of Moses can
01:31:02 be traced back
01:31:03 >> to one of the 10.
01:31:05 >> Mhm.
01:31:05 >> Yes.
01:31:06 >> If you don’t if you think
01:31:09 if you So, and I’m going to tell you
01:31:11 where kosher law is connected.
01:31:14 It’s connected to thou shalt not murder.
01:31:18 But what if I want to kill myself slowly
01:31:20 with poison?
01:31:22 >> You’re breaking God’s law.
01:31:25 >> Oh, all right. I’ll stop doing it then.
01:31:27 Okay.
01:31:28 >> Yeah. So, so that’s the point.
01:31:31 >> This is where this is where this is
01:31:34 where kosher fits in. So if you say so
01:31:37 when you so when your preacher tells you
01:31:39 that kosher law was done away with by
01:31:41 Yeshua then what he’s telling you is
01:31:43 that Yeshua says it’s okay to kill
01:31:45 yourself.
01:31:47 >> Yeah. The non-coosher
01:31:50 animals
01:31:52 uh I said it that way on purpose. Uh
01:31:56 their flesh is very toxic and there’s
01:31:59 been scientific studies that show that.
01:32:02 >> Yes. And it’s significantly different
01:32:05 those kosher animals and non-coosher
01:32:08 animals.
01:32:10 >> Yes.
01:32:11 >> And it’s understandable a lot of those
01:32:14 non-coosher animals are actually trash
01:32:18 recepticles.
01:32:20 >> Nature’s waste baskets. Um but
01:32:23 >> feeders I call them.
01:32:25 >> Yes. Exact. Well, bottom feeders or just
01:32:28 cleanup crew. Uh in in general in
01:32:31 general that’s not an absolute cuz goats
01:32:33 are cuta trash eaters but
01:32:36 >> well they’re not they’re not carrying
01:32:37 eaters though and they’re not like
01:32:39 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:32:40 >> And they’re not like poo eaters either
01:32:42 like shrimp and lost
01:32:44 >> Yeah. I guess there’s some genealogies
01:32:47 but the big issue is whether or not the
01:32:50 flesh holds toxin. Now there are
01:32:54 >> patterns that can use to find out if
01:32:57 they do or not. Um, yeah. So, anyway,
01:32:59 >> so
01:33:00 >> that’s for a different lesson.
01:33:01 >> I wanted to make a recommendation. Ben,
01:33:04 finish what you’re saying because
01:33:05 >> No, no. I’m I’m actually I’m I’m
01:33:08 listening.
01:33:09 >> Oh, okay. Oh, I thought you wanted to
01:33:10 talk and that’s why is waving and
01:33:14 >> Oh, an affirmation. Okay, cool.
01:33:16 >> All right. So, I wanted to make a
01:33:18 recommendation to anybody who might be
01:33:20 listening or who will listen to this
01:33:22 video um along the way. um
01:33:28 instead of offhand dis
01:33:32 discounting anything that has to do with
01:33:34 the first five books of Moses already
01:33:36 assuming it’s done. Okay, hold on.
01:33:39 >> Well, let me let me let me finish let me
01:33:41 finish real quick.
01:33:42 >> Um I harp a lot on the first five books
01:33:44 of Moses because everybody trashes on
01:33:46 them. Okay,
01:33:48 >> that doesn’t mean that the whole that
01:33:49 everything else is is not important, but
01:33:53 um I I guess I I I want to encourage
01:33:58 everybody who
01:34:00 might watch or or see this video that
01:34:04 they actually put it to the test and
01:34:06 read through it and and try to
01:34:08 understand it with um asking for help
01:34:12 from Yah to be able to understand what
01:34:14 they’re reading. And I I did this
01:34:17 actually personally myself a couple
01:34:18 years back. Uh I was actually
01:34:22 one of those people who did not believe
01:34:24 that the law was still in force in any
01:34:28 level. Okay? I thought we were living
01:34:30 under the higher law that is nowhere
01:34:33 found in scripture. Okay. So, um,
01:34:38 but then as I’ve been going through and
01:34:41 learning and, uh, you know, I found some
01:34:44 people who were kind of learning the
01:34:46 same things, um, I’ve been able to
01:34:48 connect a lot of dots and it’s actually
01:34:50 cleared up all of the misconceptions and
01:34:53 all the parent contradictions that I was
01:34:55 struggling with before.
01:34:57 So, if you guys
01:35:01 take a look at this, read the
01:35:04 scriptures.
01:35:06 Um,
01:35:08 find a good teacher. That’s very
01:35:10 important. Somebody who knows the law
01:35:14 and teaches it and wants you to check
01:35:16 them like Paul did in Acts 17.
01:35:19 >> Yes, exactly.
01:35:20 >> You should not just take their word for
01:35:21 it. They should help you understand it,
01:35:24 but you should be after they help you,
01:35:25 you should be able to see it on your
01:35:27 own. Yes.
01:35:28 >> Absolutely.
01:35:29 >> Um,
01:35:30 >> do those things, it will change your
01:35:33 life. I I promise you. Um, that as you
01:35:36 and he means for the better.
01:35:37 >> For the
01:35:39 I thought these things go without
01:35:40 saying, man. Sorry.
01:35:42 >> I wouldn’t be encouraging people to do
01:35:43 something to screw themselves.
01:35:46 >> Anyway, no, that’s fine. So, um, yeah, I
01:35:50 I encourage you to go through and
01:35:52 actually pour through and to start with,
01:35:55 I would actually recommend pouring
01:35:58 through Genesis through Deuteronomy
01:36:01 with an open mind,
01:36:03 looking to learn, trying to see how it
01:36:06 ties back into the commandments.
01:36:08 And if you do that, you’ll find you’ll
01:36:11 find that that the law is still very
01:36:13 much in force.
01:36:16 Um, and it’s mostly very common sense
01:36:18 things, too. What I’ve found, um,
01:36:20 through the law is that you’re you’re
01:36:22 going to find a lot of common sense
01:36:24 things, things that you’re like, “Oh,
01:36:26 well, yeah, I believe that already.”
01:36:28 >> So, I will say some of it’s a little
01:36:30 confusing, some of it’s because of
01:36:31 translation issues. Yes.
01:36:33 >> And some of it is because you have not
01:36:36 completely uh accepted or
01:36:40 >> uh embraced some of the things that it
01:36:41 builds upon.
01:36:42 >> Yeah, that’s true. Uh, most of it is
01:36:45 pretty duh.
01:36:47 >> Yeah,
01:36:48 >> some of it is a little confusing, but I
01:36:50 I we have commentaries and scripture
01:36:53 studies and I have blog posts on some of
01:36:56 them and and if you still need help,
01:36:59 come ask us.
01:37:00 >> Yeah. Yeah.
01:37:01 >> I I we will try to help you.
01:37:05 >> So,
01:37:06 >> Torah has changed my life.
01:37:08 >> It really has. For the better. Yeah.
01:37:11 It’s changed my life for the better. Um,
01:37:14 I’ve,
01:37:15 you know, it’s, it’s been a wonderful
01:37:17 journey the last couple years. Um, and I
01:37:20 feel like my life has a lot more purpose
01:37:22 now because I actually what the purpose
01:37:26 of life is
01:37:27 >> instead of questioning.
01:37:28 >> Yeah, exactly. I’m like, why the heck am
01:37:30 I here? Well, now I know why I’m here.
01:37:32 Um, I’m supposed to learn
01:37:36 Yah’s ways, keep Yah’s ways, and help
01:37:38 other people learn the same. No, I I I’m
01:37:40 going to interject again. And I know I
01:37:42 do this a lot, but because
01:37:46 Andrew is doing this, the reason why his
01:37:48 life is better is because he’s received
01:37:50 peace.
01:37:52 >> Mhm.
01:37:55 >> And and that is going to happen for
01:37:58 everybody
01:38:00 who walks in the mind and will of Yahoo.
01:38:05 That’s going to happen for anybody who’s
01:38:08 willing to accept true information
01:38:13 and change their lives accordingly.
01:38:16 >> And I will I know I know Ben means this.
01:38:20 I’m going to add it after coming under
01:38:23 Yeshua’s covering.
01:38:24 >> Yes,
01:38:24 >> absolutely.
01:38:26 that the
01:38:29 nothing that you do
01:38:32 will do you any good
01:38:35 until you come under the covering of
01:38:37 Yeshua,
01:38:38 >> right?
01:38:38 >> Until you are under the covering of the
01:38:40 blood of the lamb.
01:38:41 >> Yeah.
01:38:42 >> Yep.
01:38:43 >> Nothing that you do,
01:38:45 you’ll die in the night like the
01:38:47 children of Egypt
01:38:52 if you don’t come under the covering of
01:38:54 the blood of the lamb.
01:38:55 >> Yeah. you know, and here’s the thing, it
01:38:59 does bring you an immense amount of
01:39:01 peace
01:39:02 >> into your life. Um,
01:39:06 now don’t get that confused with the
01:39:10 troubles of your life being removed.
01:39:14 >> Oh, no. Those don’t go away.
01:39:15 >> Those don’t go away. And in some cases,
01:39:18 they even become uh bigger
01:39:21 >> sometimes for a short time. Um,
01:39:24 >> and it’s because, uh,
01:39:27 Satan’s going after you more. He doesn’t
01:39:28 want to lose his meal.
01:39:31 >> Yeah.
01:39:31 >> Right. Exactly.
01:39:32 >> Going along with how he will eat his own
01:39:35 children.
01:39:36 >> Right. Right. But but he’s
01:39:39 >> but don’t don’t think that don’t think
01:39:41 that the worldly issues don’t think that
01:39:44 the world issues are going to go away
01:39:46 but you will have that peace
01:39:49 >> that peace of knowing that you are
01:39:51 striving that you have come under
01:39:53 Yeshua’s covering that you are doing
01:39:56 everything within your power to live the
01:39:59 law
01:40:00 uh to the fullest extent possible and
01:40:04 that you are helping other people to do
01:40:06 that And it that peace that comes from
01:40:09 doing that like the whirlwinds like the
01:40:12 scriptures say the whirlwinds and the
01:40:14 tempest could be buffeting you and
01:40:16 you’ll be all right.
01:40:17 >> I I mean knowing that Yahweh Elohim
01:40:23 himself is on there to help you.
01:40:28 What other helper is greater?
01:40:32 >> Amen.
01:40:33 >> There isn’t one.
01:40:35 >> Nope. There isn’t.
01:40:38 >> So,
01:40:39 >> I don’t know.
01:40:40 >> Why wouldn’t you want that?
01:40:44 >> That that that is a very good question.
01:40:48 >> One that
01:40:48 >> I don’t have an answer for it.
01:40:50 >> One that goes one that goes along with
01:40:52 that meme that I shared from before the
01:40:55 lesson.
01:40:57 >> Yeah.
01:41:00 Yeah. Yeah.
01:41:01 >> Oh, yeah.
01:41:02 >> What did you answer?
01:41:08 Anyway, um does anybody else have
01:41:11 anything they want to share tonight?
01:41:15 >> Testimony.
01:41:16 >> I just want to say um
01:41:20 I know that it is not I know that it’s
01:41:24 not popular
01:41:27 to believe that the law is the
01:41:30 revelation of the mind and will of yo
01:41:37 But popular does not equal true.
01:41:42 Popular rarely ever equals true. I I
01:41:46 hesitate to say never, but I haven’t
01:41:48 seen an instance where it has been
01:41:49 absolutely true.
01:41:51 >> I I know of one, Ben.
01:41:53 >> Okay.
01:41:54 >> City of Enoch.
01:41:55 >> There you go. There you go.
01:41:57 >> Okay. Wow. Okay.
01:41:58 >> Yeah.
01:42:01 History for that one.
01:42:02 >> Stand correct. I can think of another
01:42:04 one.
01:42:05 >> Uh Salem.
01:42:06 >> Yes, there you go. The city of Salem.
01:42:10 >> These are exceptions.
01:42:13 >> We’ll give you one even closer that’s in
01:42:14 the future. Zion.
01:42:16 >> Oh yeah,
01:42:16 >> that’s right. So, but the main thing the
01:42:19 main thing is
01:42:23 Yeshua said,
01:42:26 “Blessed are you and the world hates you
01:42:28 because of me.”
01:42:30 >> Yeah.
01:42:32 If Yeshua’s gospel was as easy as the
01:42:34 Christians say,
01:42:36 the world doesn’t hate that gospel.
01:42:40 >> Uh, no, actually they’re pretty
01:42:42 accepting of it and they celebrate the
01:42:44 world. The world loves that gospel.
01:42:47 >> So, how can you say
01:42:51 how can you say that that is the gospel
01:42:54 for which people would be hated?
01:42:58 It’s not
01:43:00 >> the gospel for the gospel for which
01:43:02 people will will be hated is the good
01:43:05 news of Yeshua in combination
01:43:08 with the obligation that comes when you
01:43:12 take his covering upon you.
01:43:14 >> Yeah. To get your covering of Yeshua,
01:43:17 you actually promise to keep Torah,
01:43:20 >> right? The it is an obl it is a solemn
01:43:23 obligation that comes upon you when you
01:43:25 receive that covering. Well, it’s
01:43:27 because you made that promise before you
01:43:29 got it.
01:43:30 >> Well, so it doesn’t really come upon
01:43:32 you. You enter into it.
01:43:33 >> Yeah.
01:43:33 >> You enter into that obligation
01:43:36 >> of your own free will.
01:43:37 >> And so, and so it would behoove you who
01:43:41 claim to believe in Yeshua
01:43:46 to learn his law
01:43:49 and to live and to allow and to let me
01:43:53 finish.
01:43:53 >> Sorry. and to allow new information to
01:43:56 register with you and to change your
01:43:59 life
01:44:00 >> for the better. for the better because
01:44:02 you have said that you will obey Yeshua
01:44:06 like you do not
01:44:14 >> goes back to uh
01:44:16 >> and that is why
01:44:19 >> and that is why when I talk to
01:44:20 Christians I always talk about the law
01:44:23 because that is the solemn obligation
01:44:24 that you took upon yourself when you
01:44:27 claimed his name
01:44:29 >> or aka character
01:44:32 Yes.
01:44:32 >> Yep.
01:44:33 >> And so this is one of this is the
01:44:35 primary reason why I so harp on the law
01:44:39 because there’s so many people who claim
01:44:41 to love Jesus,
01:44:45 but then they say that his mind and will
01:44:46 is obsolete.
01:44:48 >> Well, even more poignant on that, Ben,
01:44:51 they say, “What would Yeshua do?”
01:44:54 >> Right? But what
01:44:57 completely ignore what he did,
01:44:59 >> right?
01:45:01 Right. And then they say And then they
01:45:03 say something feelgoody that is the
01:45:05 absolute opposite of anything that he
01:45:08 did.
01:45:08 >> Yeah.
01:45:09 >> As what he would do.
01:45:11 >> Yeah.
01:45:11 >> So I’m telling you, you need to come
01:45:13 down, read your Bibles, start with
01:45:16 Genesis.
01:45:18 >> Yeah.
01:45:19 >> Work your way through.
01:45:22 Don’t make anything obsolete.
01:45:26 >> Or or start with Deuteronomy. Uh I mean
01:45:29 there’s
01:45:31 >> the Deuteronomy Deuteronomy is a good
01:45:33 summary of the of the law.
01:45:35 >> Yes, you could start with telling it and
01:45:38 and I I would say Yeshua had a
01:45:43 >> a bias for it because that’s out of the
01:45:46 first five books of Moses, that’s what
01:45:47 he quoted the most. This one
01:45:50 >> Deuteronomy you can probably pretty much
01:45:52 sum it up as last words of Moses. Okay.
01:45:55 The last thing that he got to say, his
01:45:58 last words to the people, what he wanted
01:46:01 them to know before entering the
01:46:02 promised land. Very important.
01:46:05 >> Yeah.
01:46:05 >> So if you’re telling me that that book
01:46:07 is trash, okay.
01:46:10 >> The issue So the issue the issue that a
01:46:13 lot of people have with Deuteronomy is
01:46:14 this.
01:46:16 Some of the historical accounts are
01:46:19 different than is posted posited in the
01:46:22 earlier versions.
01:46:26 Guess what? This is common for the type
01:46:32 of document that the Torah is.
01:46:35 >> Well, it’s common for any document even
01:46:38 today, especially when copied by hand.
01:46:41 >> Yeah.
01:46:42 >> Right. And so you have and so
01:46:47 it’s actually it it actually follows the
01:46:49 pattern of
01:46:52 uh Hittite peace treaties of the time
01:46:56 that it was written
01:46:59 wherein you can have in a different
01:47:03 context
01:47:06 history cited a different way.
01:47:10 I well I I so I would say it differently
01:47:15 a different focus. It doesn’t
01:47:18 contradict. They’re just focusing on
01:47:20 different points or
01:47:22 >> Yes.
01:47:23 >> I’m saying it that’s a duplicate
01:47:25 anyways. They’re focusing on different
01:47:27 things to make a different point.
01:47:29 >> Yeah. Right.
01:47:29 >> Right. Right.
01:47:30 >> Same event, different focuses.
01:47:33 >> Right.
01:47:34 >> Right.
01:47:34 >> Exactly. and and and so the and so
01:47:37 things change.
01:47:40 >> This does not mean
01:47:42 >> they didn’t change. They’re just
01:47:43 bringing out different
01:47:45 >> points of information.
01:47:47 >> Yeah,
01:47:48 fair enough. It’s from different angles.
01:47:51 So um
01:47:54 so the so when you have this what you
01:47:57 need to realize is that
01:48:01 the other stuff
01:48:04 that the that the historical stuff is
01:48:07 there uh is cited in a way to in a way
01:48:12 uh to
01:48:14 be
01:48:15 as they journeyed through the
01:48:17 wilderness. They were in several
01:48:18 different circumstances and the
01:48:20 historical stuff is looked at different
01:48:21 angles to establish different things
01:48:24 uh to establish different uh viewpoints
01:48:28 and relationships
01:48:30 >> well and to teach different principles
01:48:33 >> that need to be
01:48:37 >> and just if you even just think about
01:48:39 your own life even just one event
01:48:43 >> I’m sure you could see how you should
01:48:45 learn multiple things there. But to
01:48:49 bring out those principles,
01:48:51 um, you will focus and on the same event
01:48:57 slightly differently to bring out a
01:49:00 different focus that helps support that
01:49:02 principle more,
01:49:07 >> it’s not unheard of,
01:49:09 >> right? This is not unheard of. This is a
01:49:11 common human um common human
01:49:14 communication measure.
01:49:16 If I have an experience that’s that has
01:49:19 applications across multiple uh multiple
01:49:23 other experiences that other people may
01:49:25 have, I might cite that experience in
01:49:27 different ways.
01:49:28 >> Relate.
01:49:31 >> Yeah.
01:49:32 >> Yeah.
01:49:32 >> People do that all the time in trying to
01:49:35 get new friends. And so the point is And
01:49:38 so the point is is there’s no way this
01:49:40 in no way assaults
01:49:43 >> the um and the reason I’m citing it back
01:49:47 the reason I’m citing it similarities to
01:49:49 the Hittite treaties of the day is
01:49:52 because what it what that indicates is
01:49:55 that its author
01:49:58 had to be someone who was familiar
01:50:02 with these treaties.
01:50:08 Its author had to be someone who was a
01:50:11 prince.
01:50:13 >> You mean like Prince Moses?
01:50:16 >> Yes.
01:50:17 >> And it author had to be somebody who
01:50:19 according who according to who according
01:50:22 to Hebrews
01:50:24 laid all that aside
01:50:26 to suffer with his people.
01:50:30 >> And boy did he
01:50:31 >> No. holding holding the testimony of of
01:50:36 Messiah to be of more value
01:50:40 than all the kings that all the kingly
01:50:43 pleasures of Egypt.
01:50:46 >> But
01:50:47 wait a minute,
01:50:50 wait a minute. Does that mean that they
01:50:51 knew about Messiah?
01:50:53 >> Yeah. And it also means it’s better not
01:50:56 to sell your soul to gain the whole
01:50:58 world.
01:50:59 >> Yeah.
01:50:59 >> Exactly. So my po and so I’m just saying
01:51:02 go back.
01:51:04 Don’t render anything obsolete.
01:51:09 Stop
01:51:10 >> true from Yahweh.
01:51:11 >> That that
01:51:15 the stuff in the books of Moses that
01:51:16 they render obsolete are it’s all true.
01:51:20 >> Okay. I’m just being technical to me.
01:51:22 Sorry.
01:51:22 >> Right. So don’t render anything obsolete
01:51:25 that Yahw has spoken because what he has
01:51:28 spoken he has spoken and he excuses not
01:51:30 himself and his ways don’t bend to the
01:51:32 right to don’t turn to the right or the
01:51:33 left they’re one eternal round
01:51:35 >> such that the sons of Jacob can be saved
01:51:39 >> aka followers of what he
01:51:43 >> taught and is what he’s taught and what
01:51:46 he’s commanded. Yes.
01:51:47 >> Yeah.
01:51:48 >> So don’t render any of that obsolete.
01:51:52 Let it let rather let that inform
01:51:56 how you read what follows and let what
01:52:00 follows also inform how you read that.
01:52:03 >> Yeah. Because they support each other.
01:52:05 If it’s from each other look at these
01:52:08 why don’t you instead of pitting y
01:52:11 instead of pitting Yahoo against Yeshua,
01:52:15 >> why don’t you realize that they’re the
01:52:16 same person
01:52:18 and stop having him be insane?
01:52:23 I I think we said that wrong. I stop
01:52:26 having him be insane because I think is
01:52:28 what you meant.
01:52:28 >> Yeah. Yeah, that’s what I thought I did
01:52:30 say that.
01:52:30 >> He did say that. It didn’t come through.
01:52:33 >> Oh, okay. It didn’t come through,
01:52:34 though. Sorry.
01:52:35 >> Yeah. So, yeah, but thank you for
01:52:39 clarifying since it apparently didn’t
01:52:40 come through.
01:52:45 But they
01:52:49 make the script allow the scriptures to
01:52:51 run together.
01:52:54 >> Don’t make them separate paths because
01:52:57 if you do that, you will find yourself
01:53:01 on this higher law that delivers you to
01:53:04 a very hot place,
01:53:08 >> that leads you to a low place.
01:53:11 A high law that leads to a low place.
01:53:15 >> Yes.
01:53:16 >> Now that talks about Isn’t there a
01:53:19 scripture that talks about making high
01:53:21 places low?
01:53:23 >> Yeah.
01:53:24 >> Well, or in modern language, it’d be a
01:53:26 roller coaster ride.
01:53:28 >> Yeah. So,
01:53:29 >> in fact, actually, if you are trying to
01:53:31 follow this madeup higher law, it is a
01:53:34 roller coaster ride.
01:53:36 >> Oh my goodness. Yes, it is.
01:53:38 So anyways, sorry bit forever.
01:53:40 >> Don’t do so don’t let the scriptures run
01:53:43 together. It’s the best way to
01:53:45 understand them.
01:53:50 >> First let what has been given before
01:53:53 inform how you read
01:53:55 how you understand what is coming after.
01:53:59 Then take what came after and put it
01:54:03 back and tie it to what came before. The
01:54:06 hearts of the hearts of the children
01:54:09 turn to the promises made to the fathers
01:54:12 and the hearts of the fathers turn to
01:54:14 the children.
01:54:18 >> Mhm.
01:54:19 >> Amen.
01:54:21 They bring they they they they walk
01:54:24 together
01:54:27 because that is where
01:54:30 if your God doesn’t if if your Elohim
01:54:33 changes, it is not the Elohim of
01:54:36 Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
01:54:38 >> Yeah.
01:54:44 >> And I’ll And so I encourage you to read
01:54:47 your Bible from the beginning.
01:54:51 And I don’t care whether you believe the
01:54:52 Book of Mormon or the Doctrine of
01:54:54 Covenants or the Word of God.
01:54:57 They are.
01:55:00 >> Read them and you’ll see.
01:55:01 >> Read them and you read them in the same
01:55:04 light. You read the Old and New
01:55:06 Testament like I like I told you to
01:55:10 and you will see very clearly that they
01:55:12 are in fact the word of Elohim and that
01:55:15 they and that man does not live by the
01:55:20 Bible alone but by every word that
01:55:24 proceeds from the mouth of Yah.
01:55:27 >> Y
01:55:29 >> and Amen.
01:55:30 >> I’ll leave you with that challenge. Yep.
01:55:34 >> That works.
01:55:35 >> Yeah, we’d love to hear more. Uh, let us
01:55:38 know. Um, reach out to us. Uh, this is
01:55:41 Andrew Sickls, Benjamin Sickles, Joshua
01:55:43 Sickles, Steven Rhettz, Brennan Leafy.
01:55:47 You can reach out to us. Uh, if you have
01:55:50 any questions, uh, if we don’t have the
01:55:52 answers, we’ll we’ll get them for you.
01:55:55 Um, um, we’ll we’d love to be able to
01:55:58 answer those questions for ourselves if
01:56:00 we don’t have the answers. So, um yeah,
01:56:02 wait. Um
01:56:05 any questions, feel free, don’t
01:56:07 hesitate, reach out. We’d love to help.
01:56:09 And uh um just want to say one last
01:56:13 time, I love Torah. Want to encourage
01:56:16 you guys to read it. Um and Torah again
01:56:19 is every word that’s come out of the
01:56:20 word of uh every word that’s come out of
01:56:22 the mouth of Yah. And that’s your entire
01:56:25 scriptures. So, uh, well, for those who
01:56:29 say they want to be like Yeshua, Torah
01:56:32 teaches you how to do that.
01:56:37 >> It’s not a mystery. You don’t have to
01:56:39 spend hours on your knees figuring it
01:56:41 out. It’s right there in front of you.
01:56:43 Deuteronomy chapter 30.
01:56:44 >> Yep. Yeah.
01:56:47 And, um, just want to say these things
01:56:51 in the name of Yeshua, the Messiah.
01:56:53 Amen.
01:56:54 >> Amen. Amen.
01:56:55 >> Amen.