Scripture Study 2026-01-03 Elijah & D&C (LDS 69)(RLDS 69)

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Going over D&C (LDS 69)(RLDS 69) and showing from scriptures that Joseph Smith is the modern day Elijah. D&C 1 goes with D&C (LDS 133)(RLDS 108). The coming calamities from D&C 1 deals with the second coming. Joseph Smith was to return people to the commandments. Torah teaches us how to be like Yeshua. People are to proclaim what YHWH declared through the prophets. Fulfill means to accomplish it. Joseph Smith is going to have a hand in calling the Mighty and Strong One. We are to use YHWH’s words not our own ideas to bring people to YHWH. YHWH wants everyone to speak while acting like Him. The word “even” in D&C (LDS 1:20) teaches modalism. People who claim we can’t know YHWH, it’s because they don’t know Him themselves. Covenant and Torah are used interchangeably. Faith will increase because faith is trusting YHWH words and keeping His commandments which Joseph Smith’s calling is helping the world with both. Torah teaches we are to go out and help others, so you can’t just stay in your home and keep Torah. The fullness of the gospel is sanctification. Statutes, judgements and commandments are three key words that connect to Torah. Where performances and ordinances are two words that point to the Law of Moses. Knowing the difference between Torah and Law of Moses makes the scriptures more clear. The purpose of messengers, the purpose of Joseph Smith is to help us to remember the commandments. Joseph Smith restored priesthood as prophesied Elijah would do because of his works. Malachi 4 does not have to do with baptisms for the dead. Before someone can be baptized you need to know if they have accepted Yeshua. The promises is Torah. The children will write the teachings of the ancient prophets upon their hearts. If no one repented before the second coming, everyone would be destroyed at the second coming. Everyone wants to make their own choices until it comes to taking responsibility for their choices. We are to help each other to keep the commandments. True is being consistent in being faithful. John Whitmer’s church history contradicts Brigham Young’s modified church history. The church presidency is stationed in center of Zion. We are to account for our stewardships. The historian is to go to church to church himself, to get the histories and to preach and expound and other things including one on one interactions just as in the Old Testament. Joseph Smith had a lot to learn while taking care of a lot of things at the same time. YHWH wants the church members to keep the church leaders in check. Come under the covering of Yeshua. All callings are to help others to come understand Yeshua’s covering and keep His Torah. Are you becoming like Yeshua. We will recognize Yeshua, because we will be like Him.

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00:00:02 Hello brothers and sisters. It’s another
00:00:04 exciting night here. Uh we are going to
00:00:07 be doing doctrine and covenants or
00:00:10 journey what I like to call journey DNC.
00:00:14 Uh we will uh be picking up here in
00:00:17 doctrine and covenants section 69 and
00:00:20 Josh is going to read that intro for us
00:00:23 and we’ll go from there. [clears throat]
00:00:26 >> This is a revelation. This is section
00:00:29 69. It was a revelation given through
00:00:31 Joseph Smith the prophet at Hyram, Ohio
00:00:34 on November 11th of 1831.
00:00:38 Compilation of revelations intended for
00:00:40 early publication had been passed upon
00:00:43 at the special conference of November
00:00:45 1st and second. On November 3rd, the
00:00:48 revelation herein appearing as
00:00:52 section 133, later called the appendix,
00:00:55 was added. Oliver Cowry had previously
00:00:58 been appointed to carry the manuscript
00:00:59 of the compiled revelations and
00:01:00 commandments to independent miss to
00:01:02 independence sorry uh Missouri for
00:01:06 printing.
00:01:07 He was also able he was also to take
00:01:10 with him money that had been contributed
00:01:12 for the building up of the church in
00:01:14 Missouri. This revelation instructs John
00:01:18 Whitmer to accompany Oliver Cowry and
00:01:21 also directs Whitmer to travel and
00:01:23 collect historical
00:01:26 material in his calling as church
00:01:28 historian and recorder.
00:01:31 So just on a side note, especially since
00:01:34 this talks about uh brought up DNC uh
00:01:37 LDS DNC 133,
00:01:40 >> um that is a section that I find valid.
00:01:43 So
00:01:45 I don’t know if we want to go look at
00:01:47 its little heading some just out of
00:01:49 curiosity to know what it’s talking
00:01:51 about.
00:01:51 >> That is that is a revelation concern
00:01:54 concerning the uh second the concern and
00:01:56 that is a revelation primarily
00:01:58 concerning the second coming.
00:02:00 >> Oh okay. Yeah. Yeah. I and with that
00:02:02 intro that Ben gave us I I do believe
00:02:05 that one um
00:02:06 >> re I don’t have it memorized what all
00:02:09 the section numbers.
00:02:10 >> Yeah. So section 133 revelation given
00:02:12 through Joseph Smith the prophet at
00:02:14 Hyram Ohio November 3rd 1831 prefacing
00:02:17 this revelation Joseph Smith’s history
00:02:19 states at this time there were many
00:02:21 things which the elders desired to know
00:02:23 relative to preaching the gospel to the
00:02:25 inhabitants of the earth and concerning
00:02:28 the gathering and in order to walk by
00:02:30 the true light and be instructed from on
00:02:32 high on the 3rd of November 1831. I
00:02:35 inquired of Yahweh and received the
00:02:39 following important revelation. This
00:02:41 section was first added to the book of
00:02:43 uh the book of doctrine and covenants as
00:02:46 an appendix and was subsequently
00:02:47 assigned a section number.
00:02:50 >> Oh, okay. All right.
00:02:51 >> Oh, I I I mean I wonder why they added
00:02:53 it as appendix. Maybe because of timing
00:02:55 and printing. Maybe but not the
00:02:57 >> they added it as they added it as an
00:03:01 appendix because sometimes the appendix
00:03:03 is actually the the appendix is actually
00:03:06 the epilogue the thing that ties
00:03:08 everything together
00:03:11 >> is that historically because I don’t
00:03:13 think it’s that way now
00:03:16 >> no it’s now just a section in the
00:03:18 document
00:03:20 appendex
00:03:21 >> he’s talking generally append
00:03:23 >> appendices
00:03:24 saying that sometimes times. Not
00:03:26 generally. Sometimes appendixes have
00:03:31 been have been used. They have used
00:03:34 appendixes to
00:03:37 um they have
00:03:40 both to add things that were important
00:03:43 and secondly the other reason is as a um
00:03:49 as a sum up and uh
00:03:53 >> like okay used that way. I was not aware
00:03:57 of that. But with that in mind, if
00:04:00 second coming stuff was a summing up,
00:04:02 that would make sense because that goes
00:04:03 along with DNC 1. Sorry, I forget the uh
00:04:07 verse numbers where it brings out how
00:04:09 Joseph Smith was to
00:04:12 be the modernday Elijah. I don’t
00:04:14 remember the exact terms, but how he was
00:04:16 supposed to um
00:04:19 Oh, my memory is serving me bad. Sorry.
00:04:21 But um
00:04:24 I’ll let’s pause for a minute. Okay.
00:04:30 >> So, we found what Stephen was talking
00:04:32 about.
00:04:34 >> Yeah. So, I I may remember a lot of
00:04:36 details. Sometimes it’s hard to remember
00:04:38 all the specifics where it’s and
00:04:40 references where it’s at. So, sometimes
00:04:42 I know some generalities and I have to
00:04:44 look it up.
00:04:44 >> [laughter]
00:04:44 >> So,
00:04:46 >> so
00:04:48 to read the verses of scripture, we will
00:04:50 start in DNC 1, read verses 17- 23. Then
00:04:55 we will go and look at Malachi 4:es 5
00:04:58 and 6 just to be clear to show the tr
00:05:03 the the connection that Yahwa is making.
00:05:06 >> Why don’t throw verse four on?
00:05:08 >> Well, yeah, we’ll do four as well. Um,
00:05:12 now, uh, Josh, do you mind reading
00:05:14 17-23, please?
00:05:18 >> Let’s see. Wherefore, I knowing the
00:05:21 calamity which had come upon the
00:05:22 inhabitants of the earth,
00:05:25 >> I’m going to interrupt. That is second
00:05:28 coming information.
00:05:29 >> Absolutely.
00:05:30 >> Yeah.
00:05:31 >> Right. The calamity that you which you
00:05:33 come upon the inhabitants of the earth
00:05:34 is second coming event.
00:05:36 >> Yeah. That is the wrath portion of which
00:05:39 is the seventh seal of the book of
00:05:41 revelations which has seven trumpets and
00:05:44 bowls or
00:05:45 >> trumpets and vials
00:05:47 >> or yeah it has trumpets and then the
00:05:49 other one is bulls or vials depending on
00:05:51 the translation. Right.
00:05:52 >> Yeah. Basically
00:05:55 >> right.
00:05:56 Uh wherefore I knowing the calamity
00:05:59 which come upon the inhabitants of the
00:06:01 earth called upon my servant Joseph
00:06:03 Smith Jr. and spoke unto him from heaven
00:06:06 and gave him commandments.
00:06:08 >> Okay. So, he called someone and told him
00:06:12 to go return them to commandments or I I
00:06:15 know people are going to say I’m
00:06:17 obsessed and I’m going to agree. I am
00:06:19 because it teaches me how to be like
00:06:21 Yeshua.
00:06:22 >> Torah. Commandments are part of Torah.
00:06:25 Okay.
00:06:26 And
00:06:27 >> I too am obsessed.
00:06:29 >> Uh if anything, they might be a little
00:06:31 more obsessed. Well, and the main reason
00:06:33 why is because when we come under the
00:06:38 covering of Yeshua, we promise to keep
00:06:42 these commandments.
00:06:44 >> Yes.
00:06:45 >> And
00:06:47 I’m not interested in teaching people
00:06:49 how to squeak into the kingdom.
00:06:54 >> As in barely being the uh talstral or
00:06:58 Okay, sorry, bad habit. or barely
00:07:01 receive testroy. Right.
00:07:03 >> Yeah. There you go. Right. Right.
00:07:05 >> So, and one reason why I harp on it a
00:07:09 lot is because a lot of people think
00:07:10 that it’s not valid.
00:07:13 >> Yeah.
00:07:16 >> Yeah.
00:07:17 >> So, we all agree here that it it still
00:07:20 is valid. We may have slightly different
00:07:23 purposes
00:07:24 and reasons, but they’re all still very
00:07:27 valid.
00:07:29 >> Yes. and gave him commandments. Josh,
00:07:31 pick up an 18, please.
00:07:33 >> Yep. All right. And also gave
00:07:35 commandments to others
00:07:37 that they
00:07:40 >> It’s just interesting
00:07:41 >> how what Stephen just said and the word
00:07:44 ties here in the DNC that
00:07:47 >> that they should proclaim these things
00:07:49 onto the world.
00:07:51 >> Oh, no. Okay. So, interestingly enough,
00:07:53 so I do think this is what some of these
00:07:56 other commandments are here. Okay. it it
00:07:58 clarified it cuz there are other places
00:08:01 in the DNC that I can’t remember off the
00:08:03 top of my head. I’d have to look at my
00:08:04 notes, but I don’t think we’re going to
00:08:06 sidet track again that it is through
00:08:08 Joseph Smith that we’re to get the
00:08:10 commandments and what was already
00:08:12 written, which goes along with what
00:08:14 happened with um
00:08:17 Elma the Elder. Okay, what he said and
00:08:21 what was already in the scriptures. Go
00:08:23 ahead, Ben. And these other people were
00:08:25 commanded to
00:08:27 broadcast it.
00:08:29 >> Yes, that is and and and thank you for
00:08:31 putting that emp that is the emphasis
00:08:33 here. Their commandment was to go
00:08:35 proclaim. Well, it was through Joseph
00:08:37 Smith and the previous prophets.
00:08:40 >> Yes.
00:08:41 >> Right.
00:08:42 >> Right. And all this that it might be
00:08:45 fulfilled
00:08:47 which was written by the prophets. So
00:08:49 tying it all back together, um the weak
00:08:52 things I know this fulfilled is a
00:08:55 controversial hap uh word, but I do
00:08:57 believe in here it means happen.
00:09:01 >> It doesn’t mean get rid of because it
00:09:03 hasn’t even happened yet, right?
00:09:05 >> What it means is to accomplish it
00:09:08 to actually get it done.
00:09:11 >> And that’s probably a better definition.
00:09:12 Ben is better with words. So that is
00:09:14 very good. That’s that the that you know
00:09:19 I don’t there are some tasks that are of
00:09:23 a nature that just because somebody does
00:09:25 them once doesn’t mean that they don’t
00:09:27 need to be done again.
00:09:29 >> Well like if I fill the requirements for
00:09:32 college does does other people need to
00:09:34 too? I should say also.
00:09:37 >> Yeah.
00:09:38 >> Yeah. If you personally fulfill the
00:09:41 requirements for your own personal
00:09:43 degree, that glory doesn’t go to
00:09:45 somebody else.
00:09:47 >> They have to fulfill it as well.
00:09:50 >> Or similarly,
00:09:52 if I take the trash out,
00:09:57 >> does that mean that never again must the
00:09:59 trash be taken out?
00:10:04 >> Well, I wonder is this personal
00:10:06 experience
00:10:07 >> according according to some? Yes.
00:10:09 >> I seriously I seriously hope that you do
00:10:12 take out the trash again. [laughter]
00:10:15 >> Yes.
00:10:15 >> Right.
00:10:17 >> Right. And that’s
00:10:18 >> I sincerely wish.
00:10:19 >> Yeah. [laughter] That but that’s the
00:10:22 point.
00:10:24 >> There are certain tasks
00:10:26 that just because somebody did them once
00:10:30 does not
00:10:32 relieve everybody else of the necessity
00:10:36 of performing them.
00:10:38 Yeah.
00:10:40 Just because Yeshua kept
00:10:44 the law perfectly
00:10:47 does not excuse those who claim who
00:10:50 would put on his covering and claim him
00:10:53 as their father
00:10:57 from following in his footsteps and
00:10:59 therefore observing Torah.
00:11:02 >> Yeah.
00:11:06 >> Okay. Uh verse 19, Josh. Thank you, man.
00:11:09 >> Yep. The weak things of the world shall
00:11:12 come forth and break down the mighty and
00:11:14 strong ones that man should not
00:11:17 >> Hold on real quick. I do want to make
00:11:19 out uh this is not mighty and strong
00:11:22 one. This is mighty and strong ones. And
00:11:24 this is refer strong of the world here.
00:11:29 Well, that kind of
00:11:31 >> that kind of if you’re if you’re weak if
00:11:32 you’re reading into if you’re reading
00:11:34 the whole verse in totality
00:11:37 at the very beginning of the verse, it
00:11:39 says, “The weak things of the world
00:11:40 shall come forth and break down the
00:11:43 mighty and strong ones.” So, when it
00:11:45 says of the world, that tells me right
00:11:48 there that the mighty and strong ones
00:11:50 he’s talking about are not of God.
00:11:53 >> Yeah. Yeah. The world is tied to both
00:11:55 parts of that statement.
00:11:57 >> Yes.
00:11:57 >> Right. Correct.
00:11:59 >> Yes. Uh
00:12:01 >> I just want to make sure it’s clear out
00:12:02 there. That’s
00:12:03 >> Well, right because well, one one more
00:12:05 thing. There is a mighty and strong one
00:12:09 that Yahwa will call.
00:12:12 >> No.
00:12:14 >> And it’s not to be confused with these
00:12:16 guys.
00:12:18 >> And he will he will be called from among
00:12:21 the weak things of the world.
00:12:24 >> Yes. Yeah. and and there’s some uh weird
00:12:28 interesting verses in the DNC
00:12:32 that I I I will say hardly anybody
00:12:36 understands.
00:12:37 Uh but it’s dealing with how Joseph
00:12:40 Smith is going to have a part in calling
00:12:42 this coming mighty and strong one just
00:12:46 as has happened in other places. The
00:12:48 most famous one is Elijah and Elisha.
00:12:51 >> Yes.
00:12:53 So there there’s patterns in the
00:12:55 scriptures. The the trick can be as
00:12:58 finding the and
00:13:01 >> well
00:13:01 >> understanding the there’s patterns in
00:13:04 the scriptures that show us what we can
00:13:06 look forward to.
00:13:08 >> Yeah.
00:13:08 >> Correct. And Paul actually stated the
00:13:11 histories are used in uh specifically
00:13:14 he’s talking about the Old Testament to
00:13:15 be used to help us know what will happen
00:13:17 in the future.
00:13:18 >> Correct. Correct. And I’m sorry for
00:13:21 interrupting, Josh. Go ahead and pick
00:13:23 back at where you were.
00:13:25 >> I’m good. [laughter]
00:13:27 All right. So, the weak things of the
00:13:28 world shall come forth and break down
00:13:30 the mighty and strong ones
00:13:32 that man should not counsel his fellow
00:13:36 man, neither trust in the arm of flesh.
00:13:40 >> Okay. So this is uh giving um
00:13:45 man counseling uh as in using men’s
00:13:49 ideas to help others not using Yahweh
00:13:51 >> using the philosophies of men
00:13:53 [clears throat]
00:13:54 >> right cuz up here just uh what was it
00:13:56 verse 17 or 18 I don’t remember um it
00:14:00 was talking about how others got
00:14:01 commandments to proclaim
00:14:04 >> 18 in verse 18
00:14:05 >> okay thank you um so there is it Without
00:14:11 knowing some of the fine point details,
00:14:14 it could look like a contradiction, but
00:14:15 it’s not. It’s the ideas of men, your
00:14:18 personal ideas.
00:14:20 >> Right. Right. Right.
00:14:22 >> In bringing people to Yahweh,
00:14:26 we need to use Yahweh’s
00:14:28 actual words and not our ideas.
00:14:31 >> Right.
00:14:32 >> That’s what this is getting at. Right.
00:14:35 >> Right. not trusting in our own wisdom
00:14:39 or lack thereof, whatever the case may
00:14:42 be,
00:14:44 >> right? Um, let’s see. 20, I think. Yes.
00:14:47 Uh, but that every man might speak in
00:14:50 the name of Elohim,
00:14:56 uh, even the Messiah of the world.
00:15:00 So in this 20 I I know I I speak a lot,
00:15:05 but this name means character.
00:15:08 >> Yeah.
00:15:09 >> So it’s bringing out how Yahweh wants
00:15:12 people to speak while they’re acting as
00:15:16 Yeshua would act.
00:15:19 >> Also, I want to point out the modalism
00:15:21 reference.
00:15:22 >> Yes.
00:15:23 >> Elohim, Yahweh, even Messiah.
00:15:26 >> Yep.
00:15:27 >> Yes. Oh, that’s actually a very good one
00:15:29 for there because it it doesn’t say and
00:15:31 in that case. It actually states even. I
00:15:34 >> Yeah,
00:15:34 >> thank you for bringing that one out,
00:15:35 Ben. I didn’t notice it until you stated
00:15:37 it and even made pay that made me pay
00:15:40 more close attention to the even.
00:15:43 >> Yep.
00:15:44 >> Yep.
00:15:45 >> Thank you. That I’m going to save that.
00:15:46 >> Elohim,
00:15:48 even the Mashiach.
00:15:51 >> Yeah. So,
00:15:53 >> and that’s a big deal because it says
00:15:54 even and not and
00:15:56 >> Yep. Thank you, Ben. That was
00:15:59 >> that that is a direct reference to one
00:16:03 person, one and the same.
00:16:06 >> Yeah.
00:16:07 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:08 >> That’s actually a very good one.
00:16:10 [clears throat]
00:16:11 >> Yeah. And the thing is is that some
00:16:13 people say that it’s not for us to
00:16:15 understand how um they are the same, but
00:16:19 it’s really not that complicated.
00:16:21 >> Well, I think they say that because they
00:16:23 don’t know it themselves.
00:16:24 >> Right.
00:16:25 >> Right. That’s exactly why they say
00:16:28 >> and they build and they try to build
00:16:29 relevance for themselves.
00:16:32 >> It’s quite sad.
00:16:32 >> That’s right. Because because they are
00:16:34 taking counsel from their fellow men and
00:16:37 uh and they’re trusting in the arm of
00:16:39 flesh.
00:16:40 >> Right.
00:16:40 >> As in verse 19.
00:16:42 >> Yeah.
00:16:43 >> Right.
00:16:45 >> No, don’t be using scriptures on me.
00:16:47 >> Okay. So, all this but I want to
00:16:50 >> All this is done.
00:16:52 >> Oh, okay. All this is done with an I
00:16:55 single with with an I with an I single
00:16:58 to preparing for the second coming.
00:17:00 >> Yeah.
00:17:01 >> Yeah. And and and Ben’s being very good
00:17:04 at bringing back to point here as we’re
00:17:06 being silly.
00:17:08 >> But this 17 what was it through 23 we’re
00:17:12 almost done.
00:17:14 >> Yeah. So bringing that up. I do want to
00:17:16 say this. This
00:17:19 it’s not saying it exactly the same as
00:17:24 Oh, Malachi 4. Okay. I always get three
00:17:26 and four mixed up, but Malachi 4,
00:17:29 >> but the imagery and the substance and
00:17:31 the core is the same here. Okay.
00:17:35 >> Well, it’s easy to do because the
00:17:37 messenger is mentioned in both three and
00:17:39 four,
00:17:40 >> right?
00:17:41 >> Oh. Oh. uh or at least
00:17:44 >> I I think three is mentioning the mighty
00:17:46 and strong one. I’d have to review.
00:17:49 >> Yeah, but it the word messenger is used
00:17:51 in three and then I will send you Elijah
00:17:54 the prophet in verse in chapter 4. Three
00:17:57 and four are often associated together
00:17:59 as more.
00:18:00 >> Yeah, I I I can see that there’s context
00:18:03 and I have a post for that that
00:18:06 >> the important coming dates that gets in
00:18:08 that context. I’ll put as a link. Okay.
00:18:11 So, so verses 20 through 23 are all one
00:18:14 idea. So, if I could just get through
00:18:17 those four four verses without any
00:18:20 interruptions, that would be awesome.
00:18:22 >> Okay, I’ll call it like this.
00:18:24 >> Yeah, there you go. All [laughter]
00:18:25 right. So, verse 20. But that every man
00:18:29 might speak in the name of Elohim Yhwa,
00:18:32 even the Messiach of the world, that
00:18:35 faith also might increase in the earth,
00:18:38 that my everlasting covenant might be
00:18:40 established.
00:18:41 >> Or
00:18:44 thank you for the interruption.
00:18:45 >> That the fullness of my gospel might be
00:18:48 proclaimed by the weak and the simple
00:18:50 unto the ends of the world and before
00:18:52 kings and rulers. Okay, now go to town.
00:18:56 >> Okay, John, go ahead. to your covenant
00:18:58 now.
00:18:58 >> Sorry. Well, but I I I understand that
00:19:01 Torah is not the covenant, but it is the
00:19:03 law of the covenant which allows you to
00:19:06 keep the covenant. Um well, okay. So, on
00:19:11 this um covenant is an overloaded word
00:19:14 like Torah and uh the the ark of the
00:19:19 covenant. What did it keep?
00:19:22 >> Uh Torah.
00:19:24 Yeah, it they’re universal,
00:19:28 >> right?
00:19:29 >> Yeah.
00:19:31 They’re you they’re often um in some in
00:19:36 some ways they’re used interchangeably,
00:19:38 but in other instances they’re not. And
00:19:40 they’re
00:19:40 >> Yeah, it depends on the context. That is
00:19:43 for sure.
00:19:43 >> Correct.
00:19:45 But there there are uh tons of points
00:19:48 here that goes along with Malachi 4,
00:19:52 right?
00:19:53 >> There’s tons of points there’s tons of
00:19:55 points there that also go with the uh
00:19:58 that also go with Jeremiah’s prophecy in
00:20:01 31 about the new covenant.
00:20:04 Uh yes, which I would like to say renew,
00:20:06 but let’s not uh sidetrack more on that
00:20:08 one because we try to go back to
00:20:11 >> I’m just I’m just pointing putting that
00:20:13 in there for interest.
00:20:15 >> Yeah. Yes. And I do completely agree
00:20:18 with Ben there. Okay.
00:20:20 >> Yeah.
00:20:21 >> Uh I do think Oh, go ahead. Go ahead.
00:20:24 I was just going to say I love the fact
00:20:27 that it says that faith might also
00:20:29 increase if we are in the character of
00:20:35 Yahweh Elohim.
00:20:38 Then faith will increase on the earth.
00:20:42 And the character of Yahw Elohim, what
00:20:45 is faith? Faith is trusting that Yahweh
00:20:47 Elohim will keep his promises and our
00:20:52 diligent obedience
00:20:54 to his commandments.
00:20:55 >> Obedience to the laws upon which those
00:20:58 promises are
00:20:59 >> break.
00:21:00 >> Yes.
00:21:00 >> Which goes along how he’s bringing back
00:21:03 commandments or at least making them
00:21:05 clear again. Right.
00:21:07 >> Yeah.
00:21:08 >> Yes.
00:21:08 >> Which would go along with the faith. I
00:21:10 just want to add some emphasis to what
00:21:12 John said there. It it and this goes
00:21:16 along how faith is trust in Yahweh’s
00:21:19 word and diligent obedience. If you
00:21:22 don’t know the commandments,
00:21:25 you can’t
00:21:26 >> be obedient. What do you know to be
00:21:28 obedient to
00:21:30 >> right? In addition, if you don’t know
00:21:32 the word, how are you going to trust it?
00:21:35 Well, I it that one of the things that I
00:21:38 always love is when pe is is when I hear
00:21:41 this argument against keeping Torah that
00:21:45 well, you’re not going to you’re not
00:21:47 going to uh you know, you’re not going
00:21:49 to maximize your not going to maximize
00:21:52 your your life’s pro your life’s purpose
00:21:55 simply by staying
00:21:56 >> simply by staying at home and keeping
00:21:58 Torah. I love hearing that, especially
00:22:01 when Proverbs says that the whole
00:22:03 purpose of man is to keep his
00:22:05 commandments and help others to do so.
00:22:06 So therefore, obviously, you’re not, you
00:22:09 can’t keep Torah unless you’re actually
00:22:11 going out and talking to people and
00:22:15 part of Torah is to be a light unto the
00:22:17 people. How can you do that if you stay
00:22:19 home,
00:22:20 >> right? [laughter]
00:22:22 >> Yeah.
00:22:22 >> I know. It’s because you invite them
00:22:24 over for high holidays. That’s how
00:22:26 >> That’s how you That’s it. the work.
00:22:29 >> I’m sure you get a different neighbor
00:22:30 every year.
00:22:31 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go, go, go back, John.
00:22:33 John, go back.
00:22:34 >> Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. I was
00:22:36 gonna actually try doing it through
00:22:38 here.
00:22:39 >> No, no, but I want to go back to DNC 1.
00:22:42 >> Oh, I see. I see.
00:22:43 >> We can do two, but let’s um So, also I I
00:22:47 want to
00:22:49 on 23 there’s this phrase fullness of
00:22:52 the gospel. Um
00:22:54 >> Oh, yeah.
00:22:54 >> I I I need to do a post on that. I’ve
00:22:57 never said that before, but um
00:23:00 >> No,
00:23:02 >> no, I haven’t. Um but I I since it’s
00:23:06 coming up, I’m going to talk about it.
00:23:08 There is plenty in the DNC that defines
00:23:12 the fullness of the gospel of
00:23:13 sanctification.
00:23:15 >> Amen.
00:23:17 >> Uh I we probably aren’t going to get
00:23:20 into it tonight because we we haven’t
00:23:22 even really started the what we plan to
00:23:24 start yet,
00:23:25 >> right? We’re we’re giving we’re giving
00:23:28 the preamble to what we plan to start.
00:23:31 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:32 >> Part of why which is part of why I’m
00:23:34 trying to keep why I keep trying to push
00:23:37 us into into it. So
00:23:40 >> yeah. Yeah. No, that’s fine. Um if
00:23:42 anything, go download my tool for
00:23:44 searching of search fullness and go look
00:23:47 at all the references in the DNC. It’ll
00:23:49 become clear. Uh, a and we should
00:23:52 probably do something on that sooner
00:23:54 than later, but I I mean I want to do a
00:23:56 post, but who knows when that’s going to
00:23:58 happen.
00:23:58 >> Yeah, I agree. I agree with that.
00:24:01 >> So, okay, now we can do DNC 2. Thank you
00:24:05 for humoring me for a minute, John.
00:24:08 >> Oh, no, you’re good. You’re good. Now,
00:24:11 uh, Ben did I I’m just curious.
00:24:16 Yes, I do actually want to include verse
00:24:18 4 and then we’ll go back to DNC 2. So
00:24:22 I’ll read verse four. Remember ye the
00:24:24 law of Moses my servant which I
00:24:26 commanded unto him in Horeb for all of
00:24:28 Israel with the statutes and judgments.
00:24:32 >> That’s Malachi 4, right?
00:24:35 >> Let’s stay here there for a minute. So
00:24:39 >> law of Moses I is an overloaded word
00:24:43 like Torah. Okay. But
00:24:45 >> the thing I want to bring out is the
00:24:46 statues and judgments. Those are two key
00:24:49 words that has to do with Torah
00:24:54 >> in not what I would generally say law of
00:24:57 Moses. Now this law of Moses’s
00:24:59 translation, okay? And I’ve looked at
00:25:01 this in Bible hub. There’s nothing to
00:25:04 justify.
00:25:06 I can understand why it’s there. I would
00:25:09 put law through Moses.
00:25:11 >> Yeah. And but the and the point is is
00:25:15 this is intimately connected to the
00:25:18 purpose of the messenger
00:25:21 by
00:25:22 >> Yeah. And this is the Elijah which goes
00:25:24 along what we just read about what
00:25:26 Joseph Smith was doing. Now I will say
00:25:31 let me finish one minute Ben. Okay.
00:25:32 Okay. And then you I’ll give it to you
00:25:34 that uh there’s statutes and judgments.
00:25:37 That’s key word for actual Torah versus
00:25:41 or performances and ordinances which
00:25:43 goes with the punishments
00:25:46 that happened which is more referred to
00:25:48 law of Moses. Okay. that there it can be
00:25:52 tricky to to know these things but
00:25:56 hopefully
00:25:57 seeing knowing the key words and there’s
00:26:00 three for what I would more term Torah
00:26:02 the com and it’s statutes judgments and
00:26:04 commandments those are those three for
00:26:06 that and and and it varies how used
00:26:08 throughout the scriptures cuz it just
00:26:11 does I I don’t know why because
00:26:13 everybody has their favorite flavor of
00:26:15 ice cream that’s why [laughter]
00:26:18 >> yes I prefer sherbet But anyways, um
00:26:22 >> that’s a valid that’s a valid way to put
00:26:24 it actually.
00:26:25 >> But on the law of Moses, the punishments
00:26:28 part, it is performances and ordinances.
00:26:31 And so knowing that there’s three three
00:26:35 key words for one and two key words for
00:26:37 the other hopefully will help open one’s
00:26:39 eyes to see it. Okay.
00:26:42 >> Amen. Amen. It took me a while to figure
00:26:46 it out with Yahweh’s help because I I
00:26:49 will say by the grace of Elohim or
00:26:52 Yahweh.
00:26:55 >> Yes,
00:26:56 >> he he guided me to it. Okay.
00:27:00 >> But it was him.
00:27:01 >> Yes.
00:27:02 >> But it’s been helpful to know the
00:27:04 distinctions. Okay. It’s made things
00:27:06 make a lot more sense for me.
00:27:08 >> Yes.
00:27:09 >> Okay. I I’ll I’ll be quiet now.
00:27:11 >> No, you’re good. So, I was just going to
00:27:14 say that the purpose of the messenger,
00:27:17 the purpose of Joseph Smith was to help
00:27:21 us remember
00:27:24 the commandments,
00:27:27 which goes along go back to four,
00:27:30 bringing the children to the fathers or
00:27:32 the promises of the fathers.
00:27:35 >> I was I was on section two, which is
00:27:38 four. Sorry.
00:27:39 >> Well, yeah, there that’s true. That’s
00:27:42 Yeah. So I I don’t remember the verse
00:27:44 numbers.
00:27:44 >> So here we go. Behold, I will reveal
00:27:47 unto you the priesthood by the hand of
00:27:50 Elijah the prophet before the coming of
00:27:52 the great and dreadful day of Yoka.
00:27:54 >> Okay, so let’s pause. Who restored
00:27:57 priesthood?
00:27:59 >> Joseph
00:28:00 >> or or no restored.
00:28:03 >> It was restored through Joseph Smith.
00:28:05 >> Through Joseph Smith. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:07 Yeah. Yeah. And then that Joseph Smith
00:28:10 gave it to others.
00:28:11 >> Yes.
00:28:12 >> And hand is symbolic of works. It’s
00:28:15 because of Joseph Smith’s works that the
00:28:18 the priesthood came back.
00:28:20 >> Mhm.
00:28:21 >> Yeah.
00:28:22 Okay. Go. Go ahead. And the great
00:28:25 dreadful day is the second coming.
00:28:28 >> Day of wrath.
00:28:30 >> Yeah.
00:28:31 >> Well, it’s
00:28:32 >> No, it is the second coming period
00:28:34 because for some it’s a great day. For
00:28:36 others it’s dreadful. Well,
00:28:39 yeah, that’s it could be a little vague,
00:28:42 but I’m I’m a little more inclined to
00:28:44 think great and dreadful is the wrath
00:28:47 because you’ll be raptured or or get
00:28:51 >> That’s what I was getting at. It’s okay.
00:28:53 >> For some, it’s a great day and for
00:28:55 others it’s it’s dreadful.
00:28:58 >> Well, right. But I I I’m just saying it
00:28:59 goes with John is saying the wrath, the
00:29:01 seven se.
00:29:02 >> Right. Right. Right. Right. Oh, okay. I
00:29:03 Yeah. Yeah. I got you.
00:29:04 >> Yeah. That that’s all I was saying was
00:29:06 the wrath.
00:29:06 >> Yep. Yeah. Um, and he shall plant in the
00:29:09 hearts of the children the promises made
00:29:11 to the father. By the way, this has
00:29:13 nothing to do with that blasphemous
00:29:16 temple work that the LDS brigamites
00:29:20 >> do in their temperance.
00:29:22 >> Yeah.
00:29:22 >> Or in other words, to make it clear,
00:29:24 baptism for the dead and all their other
00:29:26 work for the dead.
00:29:27 >> Yeah. I I would say Yeah, I would say
00:29:30 proxy bapt I tend to say proxy baptisms.
00:29:33 >> I I agree with Ben. It’s a little more
00:29:35 explicit. I don’t always do it, but I do
00:29:38 agree with Ben. It is the proxy.
00:29:40 >> Yeah. Proxy baptisms for dead people. Um
00:29:43 you it the the practice is absolutely
00:29:46 wrongheaded. Uh there’s no way that you
00:29:49 can know whether they have uh whether
00:29:52 whether they have accepted a baptism
00:29:54 unless you are uh unless you’re doing
00:29:56 necromancy.
00:29:58 >> Yes.
00:29:59 >> Yes. Which is commanded against in
00:30:01 Torah. So absolutely
00:30:03 >> and they have no means and according to
00:30:05 the Book of Mormon, they have no means
00:30:07 of accepting that baptism because their
00:30:09 time of work is done.
00:30:10 >> Yes. And you don’t just baptize. You
00:30:13 have before you baptize, you have to
00:30:15 know that they’ve accepted Yeshua and
00:30:18 repented. You can’t just mass doing it
00:30:20 because you’re bored.
00:30:24 >> Well, because you or because you have
00:30:26 delusions of grandeur.
00:30:28 >> Yeah. Or that.
00:30:29 >> Yeah, that’s true. So the the he’s
00:30:33 talking about the covenant.
00:30:36 >> He’s talking about Torah.
00:30:38 >> Yeah. I’m trying to bring this back. I’m
00:30:40 trying to
00:30:41 >> Yeah, I was going to say I was going to
00:30:43 talk about that. I I actually like the
00:30:46 Doctrine of the Covenant section two
00:30:49 because this is the way that the angel
00:30:51 Moroni quoted
00:30:54 uh Malachi chapter 4 to Joseph Smith.
00:30:57 And it talks about not the hearts of the
00:30:59 children to the fathers and the hearts
00:31:01 of the fathers to the children, but the
00:31:02 hearts of the children to the promises
00:31:04 made to the fathers to the promises made
00:31:08 to the fathers. No, I I just I want to
00:31:11 emphasize what B just dead said there.
00:31:14 It’s to the promises, not to the
00:31:16 fathers. And the promises are Torah and
00:31:20 everything within that. Okay.
00:31:23 >> Yeah.
00:31:24 >> And among those promises are the
00:31:26 promises are the promises of uh the
00:31:28 promises of land and inheritance made to
00:31:30 Abraham. I think uh and um
00:31:37 and uh a lot of things there’s a lot
00:31:41 >> now and one that I personally like to
00:31:45 focus on more is sanctification.
00:31:47 >> Yeah.
00:31:48 >> Yes.
00:31:48 >> Yes.
00:31:49 >> Because um well that’s where you want to
00:31:51 be.
00:31:52 >> But yes, that is the goal.
00:31:55 >> Here’s the thing.
00:31:56 >> My I I’m my mind is
00:31:58 >> well that’s where that’s where I want to
00:32:00 be. And and I’m pretty sure that
00:32:03 everybody else here tonight wants to be
00:32:06 there, too. But
00:32:07 >> well, here’s the thing. Nobody has a
00:32:09 land inheritance in the kingdom of
00:32:11 heaven who is not sanctified.
00:32:14 >> I agree with you, Ben. But it um during
00:32:18 the temporal life,
00:32:21 you don’t have to be sanctified to get
00:32:23 uh the land.
00:32:25 >> No, no, but I’m talking about the real
00:32:28 land.
00:32:28 >> Okay. the real land of promise which is
00:32:31 >> okay
00:32:32 >> I’m on a I’m talking on a deeper level
00:32:34 in terms of land
00:32:35 >> okay you did not explicitly state that
00:32:38 >> yeah yeah
00:32:39 >> he’s referring to the promised land that
00:32:42 Nephi refers to in the book of uh first
00:32:46 Nephi
00:32:47 >> okay let’s clarify here uh because
00:32:50 that’s Zion
00:32:52 and that’s a temporal one
00:32:55 >> or that is temporal that’s true
00:32:57 >> but what I’m talking about is the is the
00:33:00 fact that the temporal is in shadow uh
00:33:03 is all the temporal land grant is always
00:33:06 in shadow of the heavenly things.
00:33:09 >> Yes, it is. And I I Amen.
00:33:12 >> Amen.
00:33:14 >> And the hearts of the children shall
00:33:17 turn to their fathers. So
00:33:20 >> notice it doesn’t do a mirroring. It
00:33:23 doesn’t flip it in section two. And he
00:33:26 shall plant in the hearts of the
00:33:27 children the promises made to the
00:33:29 fathers and the hearts of the children
00:33:31 shall turn to their fathers. What this
00:33:34 means this isn’t about genealogy work.
00:33:36 This is about
00:33:39 >> remembering and appreciating
00:33:43 the faithfulness of the fathers.
00:33:45 >> Yeah.
00:33:46 It’s it’s it’s when it’s when we
00:33:51 today us
00:33:55 return to the father to return to Torah.
00:34:00 And might I also add that it is in
00:34:04 mourning
00:34:06 the faithlessness of the fathers that
00:34:09 has us in this darkened condition
00:34:14 that has the world in this darkened
00:34:16 condition.
00:34:18 So I I
00:34:20 the way I would interpret this last
00:34:22 part, the hearts, the desires,
00:34:26 >> the law that the children keep shall
00:34:30 turn to the teachings.
00:34:32 >> Okay. I know.
00:34:33 >> Of the fathers. The fathers taught and
00:34:36 kept Torah.
00:34:37 >> Yeah.
00:34:39 when in is it um 3rd Nephi 11 I think or
00:34:45 give or take um the son states that he
00:34:50 has made what the father made law his
00:34:53 own
00:34:55 >> right
00:34:57 >> that’s what’s going on here those
00:34:59 fathers made what the father declared as
00:35:04 law their own and it is integrated into
00:35:09 them like like it’s supposed to be
00:35:11 written on their heart.
00:35:13 >> Okay.
00:35:14 >> And so
00:35:15 >> here it is. Here’s the children
00:35:18 >> doing what the fathers did, writing it
00:35:21 upon their hearts.
00:35:23 >> Okay. Right.
00:35:25 >> That’s all.
00:35:26 >> Amen.
00:35:27 >> All right.
00:35:28 >> So that
00:35:30 Sorry, that is what I see there.
00:35:33 >> Yeah, that’s cool. behind. I can get
00:35:35 behind that.
00:35:37 >> You better. No, I’m just kidding.
00:35:39 [laughter]
00:35:40 >> Oh my goodness.
00:35:40 >> Well, in that case
00:35:41 >> Oh my goodness.
00:35:42 >> Let me find something petty to argue
00:35:44 about. No, I’m just kidding.
00:35:46 >> I’m just kidding.
00:35:48 >> I I don’t I like what you brought out
00:35:51 there. I like
00:35:51 >> I just did a funny statement, so I just
00:35:55 >> So, I like what you brought out of that
00:35:57 verse. That was that was good.
00:36:00 >> Yeah. Cool. So to finish to finish the
00:36:02 section so we can get to what we had
00:36:05 planned to read. [laughter]
00:36:07 >> If it were not so, the whole earth would
00:36:09 be utterly wasted at his coming. And
00:36:12 why? Because there is nobody under the
00:36:15 covering of Yeshua.
00:36:16 >> Yeah. Because
00:36:19 the second coming is coming and
00:36:22 specifically in the wrath. And if there
00:36:24 is nobody that is keeping Torah, the
00:36:29 every seeking freaking soul on earth is
00:36:33 going to get stoned.
00:36:35 >> Yes.
00:36:35 >> Yep. And and this and uh and I’m going
00:36:40 to tell all these people who would say
00:36:42 that y’all failed in that event.
00:36:45 No, he didn’t.
00:36:47 The whole purpose was to give us the
00:36:49 opportunity.
00:36:51 Just because he didn’t make you a robot
00:36:54 doesn’t mean he failed. It means he’s
00:36:57 letting you decide, which everybody
00:37:01 wants in their own lives until it’s time
00:37:03 to take responsibility.
00:37:05 >> Right. And then it’s always somebody
00:37:07 else’s fault.
00:37:08 >> Yeah.
00:37:09 >> Yeah. And he’s and he’s giving and he’s
00:37:11 giving you the person who’s justifying
00:37:13 yourself and saying that he fails if all
00:37:15 if that happens, he’s giving you enough
00:37:18 rope to hang yourself.
00:37:20 >> Yeah. Yeah, that a very good way to
00:37:23 putting it and hanging is actually a
00:37:27 toric punishment. So anyways,
00:37:30 >> it is. Yep.
00:37:32 >> Yeah.
00:37:32 >> Right along right up there with stoning.
00:37:35 >> But yeah. [laughter]
00:37:36 >> Yeah.
00:37:37 >> So we did a huge sidetrack, but it was
00:37:41 very important.
00:37:43 >> Wait, before let me just say one thing.
00:37:45 It to just go along with what Ben’s
00:37:47 statement said about the appendix. Okay.
00:37:50 It starts with preparing the second
00:37:52 coming or preparing for the second
00:37:55 coming then ends with a second coming.
00:37:58 >> Mhm.
00:37:59 >> Yeah.
00:38:00 >> Right.
00:38:01 >> Just to give some credence to Ben’s
00:38:03 statement, which is why I did that long
00:38:05 sidetrack. It’s all good.
00:38:08 >> And it’s be and it was a beautiful
00:38:10 sidetrack because now we understand
00:38:14 >> um
00:38:17 why it was added
00:38:19 >> and it makes sense and with Ben’s
00:38:23 uh
00:38:25 this is a compliment uh Ben Jeopardy
00:38:27 knowledge [laughter]
00:38:29 makes some things make more sense,
00:38:31 right?
00:38:31 >> Yes. Yeah.
00:38:34 >> So,
00:38:34 >> Stephen, do you want to read verse one?
00:38:37 >> Sure.
00:38:37 >> 126.
00:38:38 >> Hearken unto me, saith Yahweh your
00:38:41 Elohim, for my servant Oliver Calvar’s
00:38:45 sake. It is not wisdom in me Yahweh that
00:38:49 he Oliver should be entrusted with the
00:38:52 commandments as in uh
00:38:55 >> Revelations and the Yeah.
00:38:57 >> Well, not Revelations. uh it’s
00:38:59 specifically commandments
00:39:02 and in establishing the standard of how
00:39:06 people are to behave. Okay.
00:39:09 It’s Joseph Smith that is
00:39:11 >> but you got to but you got to read the
00:39:13 whole verse.
00:39:14 >> Okay. All right. And the monies which he
00:39:16 shall carry unto the land of Zion except
00:39:20 one go with him who shall be true and
00:39:23 faithful. Okay. So on that last part,
00:39:25 it’s about have someone go with him to
00:39:28 take the money. Okay.
00:39:30 >> And the book of commands to keep him
00:39:32 honest and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:35 to to keep it to keep him honest because
00:39:38 at that point um
00:39:42 because it is true that Oliver Calvary
00:39:44 did exhibit over the course of his time
00:39:48 w in the church quite a bit of um pride
00:39:54 and arrogance and Gillet knew that he
00:39:57 needed somebody to keep him straight.
00:40:00 >> Oh, I I mean I’ll be honest. I’m glad
00:40:03 for all you guys to help me stay
00:40:06 straight.
00:40:07 >> We I mean we we all help each other,
00:40:10 right?
00:40:10 >> So So what he’s saying here is
00:40:14 >> don’t let him take these commandments to
00:40:18 the printer to the printing house in um
00:40:21 >> Zion Zion
00:40:23 >> alone.
00:40:24 >> Alone.
00:40:26 >> Yeah. And I do think with the additional
00:40:27 context with the money that makes more
00:40:29 sense than what I stated. Um
00:40:31 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:33 >> Yeah. No, and that and that’s what I was
00:40:35 getting at is that we needed to finish
00:40:36 reading the whole verse instead of
00:40:38 >> I was getting a little ahead of myself
00:40:40 apparently.
00:40:41 >> No worries. No worries.
00:40:43 >> Uh, right. Uh, Ben, you want to read
00:40:46 verse two?
00:40:47 >> Sure.
00:40:48 >> Well, actually, you’ll read verse three.
00:40:50 I’ll read verse two.
00:40:51 >> Go ahead.
00:40:52 >> Wherefore I will that my servant John
00:40:54 Whitmer should go with my servant Oliver
00:40:57 Cery.
00:41:00 >> True. And fa. So going back to true and
00:41:02 faithful.
00:41:04 >> Oh yeah.
00:41:06 >> What does that exactly mean? I mean
00:41:09 that’s really high praise.
00:41:11 >> Uh so uh
00:41:15 >> my way of thinking that’s really high
00:41:17 praise.
00:41:17 >> Oh yes it is. So true is another way of
00:41:22 saying straight. Actually it’s kind of
00:41:24 old English if I remember correctly. You
00:41:26 guys would know.
00:41:27 >> Yeah. It’s it’s it’s straight. It’s also
00:41:31 somebody who once set the purpose
00:41:34 maintains the purpose.
00:41:36 >> Yeah. So like enduring to the end.
00:41:40 >> Yeah.
00:41:42 >> Maybe I call me crazy.
00:41:45 And so the so true and faithful are
00:41:49 words that roughly mean the same thing.
00:41:54 Though true is a more is a more
00:41:58 long-term extension of faithful because
00:42:00 you have people who can be faithful in a
00:42:02 moment for a moment.
00:42:04 But true is beyond that.
00:42:08 >> True is consistency of being faithful.
00:42:12 >> Okay. And so and so he’s saying John
00:42:15 Whitmer has that
00:42:18 capacity.
00:42:19 >> He’s basically Yeah. He’s basically
00:42:21 saying send John Whitmer with him. He’s
00:42:23 a bulldog.
00:42:26 >> That’s one way of saying it. Yeah.
00:42:28 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:29 >> Okay. Because bulldogs are protectors
00:42:32 and those who keep Yahweh’s ways know
00:42:36 that part of it is
00:42:39 uh guarding it as in keeping it true and
00:42:44 helping others to stay true to it.
00:42:46 >> Well, another salient characteristic of
00:42:48 bulldogs is
00:42:50 once set to purpose and they know their
00:42:52 purpose, they never ever back down until
00:42:57 their purpose is achieved. Or they are
00:43:00 dead.
00:43:00 >> Or they are dead.
00:43:01 >> Or they’re dead. One of the other
00:43:03 brother died. Right.
00:43:04 >> Right.
00:43:05 >> Yeah.
00:43:05 >> Okay. That make I didn’t know that about
00:43:07 them, but that is good to know.
00:43:09 >> Yep.
00:43:10 >> So, but that that it goes well and so
00:43:13 this I think this somewhat goes along
00:43:15 with how different people have different
00:43:16 callings
00:43:18 and we are to take a um and help them
00:43:21 with it or to take upon other people’s
00:43:25 burdens to a certain degree while
00:43:27 helping them. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:30 >> It is still his. It’s still Oliver’s. He
00:43:34 Oliver still stills to do it.
00:43:35 >> That’s still his stewardship,
00:43:38 >> but he is to get help from others.
00:43:40 Specifically in this case, John Whitmer.
00:43:43 Right.
00:43:43 >> Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Okay.
00:43:45 Yep.
00:43:45 >> All right. So, Ben, verse three, please.
00:43:48 and also that he John Whitmer shall
00:43:52 continue in writing and making a history
00:43:54 of all the important things which he
00:43:56 shall observe and know concerning my
00:43:58 church.
00:44:00 >> Speaking of this history of John
00:44:02 Whitmer, this is one of the things that
00:44:03 the church tries to keep under law
00:44:05 complete.
00:44:09 >> So Ben, I I don’t
00:44:13 Can you tell us more about that
00:44:14 controversy? I don’t know if nothing
00:44:16 else is for me cuz there’s something
00:44:18 >> John Whitmer did record a history and
00:44:20 some of and some of the events in that
00:44:23 history directly contradict what uh
00:44:27 Brigham Young’s modifications to Joseph
00:44:29 Smith’s history.
00:44:30 >> Oh, okay. I did not know that, but I
00:44:32 I’ll be honest. somewhat surprised
00:44:34 because I have a lot of quotes in uh
00:44:37 Joseph Smith’s last dream post that I
00:44:39 did that shows that they openly admit
00:44:43 they did lots of modifications, right?
00:44:46 >> Oh yeah.
00:44:47 >> So, but that that’s an interesting
00:44:49 that’s a nice confirmation of it, right?
00:44:51 >> Mhm.
00:44:52 >> Uh verse four,
00:44:54 >> who?
00:44:55 >> Ben.
00:44:55 >> Okay.
00:44:56 >> And also that he received counsel and
00:44:58 assistance from my servant Oliver
00:45:00 Calvary and others. So he’s supposed to
00:45:02 help Oliver Calvary. Oliver Calvary is
00:45:04 supposed to help him. And this is
00:45:06 actually the way that it’s supposed to
00:45:07 work in the church of Elohim is that
00:45:10 we’re helping each other. We take each
00:45:12 other by the hand and help each other to
00:45:14 heaven. So could that be like how the I
00:45:19 I don’t remember the exact quote but
00:45:21 it’s something along as how the hand
00:45:22 can’t tell the foot has no need of it
00:45:24 and the foot can’t tell no that it
00:45:26 doesn’t need the no need of the hand or
00:45:29 I
00:45:30 >> but you’re talking about I know what
00:45:32 you’re talking about
00:45:35 >> yeah they
00:45:36 >> that’s another way of saying that but
00:45:38 yeah yeah yeah
00:45:39 >> they have to work in tandem they have to
00:45:42 work together
00:45:43 >> they they support each other. Right.
00:45:45 >> Right.
00:45:46 >> Yes.
00:45:47 >> Correct. All right. I’ll pick up in
00:45:49 five. And also my servants who are
00:45:51 abroad in the earth should send forth
00:45:53 the accounts of their stewardships to
00:45:57 the land of Zion or the
00:46:03 the promised land. Uh but yeah, the the
00:46:06 land of
00:46:08 >> the land of Zion. I mean yeah.
00:46:12 I I see that and I I just want to uh
00:46:14 maybe add a little more to that.
00:46:16 >> Yeah.
00:46:16 >> The presidency is central in the land of
00:46:20 Zion.
00:46:22 >> The abroad are those who are preaching
00:46:25 it to the world.
00:46:26 >> Yes.
00:46:27 >> This is actually showing uh the first
00:46:30 presidency is over everything as DNC 107
00:46:34 gets into with church government if I
00:46:36 remember correctly.
00:46:37 >> Correct. and and the and the steward and
00:46:40 stewardships are and this enforce and
00:46:44 this reinforces a principle that we are
00:46:46 to give account of our stewardship.
00:46:49 >> Yes.
00:46:50 >> We’re given responsibilities. We make an
00:46:52 accounting of those responsibilities.
00:46:54 >> Yep. Yep.
00:46:55 >> Yeah. Good point there, Ben. Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:58 >> Very nice.
00:46:59 >> Uh John, uh Brennan, you want to read
00:47:01 verse six?
00:47:04 for the land of Zion shall be a seat and
00:47:07 a place to receive and do all these
00:47:09 things.
00:47:12 >> That just reinforces
00:47:14 >> That just reinforces what Stephen and
00:47:16 Ben just pointed out.
00:47:18 >> And trust me, I didn’t read forward.
00:47:21 >> No, no, it’s all good. It’s all good.
00:47:22 That just reinforces it. That just
00:47:24 reinfor the the reason it reinforces
00:47:26 that the seat goes back to the seat of
00:47:29 Moses the the the head judge or other
00:47:32 where things are to be decided and taken
00:47:37 care of. Right.
00:47:38 >> On another level on on and on an even
00:47:41 higher level it goes back to the mercy
00:47:43 seat.
00:47:44 >> Yes. Which is a seat of power. Yes.
00:47:46 Right. Which is the which is the seat of
00:47:50 power.
00:47:50 >> Yeah. Yeah. And I completely agree.
00:47:53 Yes.
00:47:54 >> All right. Uh Stephen verse 7.
00:47:58 >> Nevertheless, let my servant John
00:47:59 Whitmer travel many times from place to
00:48:02 place and from church to church that he
00:48:05 may be more easily obtain knowledge. So
00:48:09 uh this is going along how
00:48:15 it’s a little different than how places
00:48:18 are things are done today from church to
00:48:21 church. It shows that each local
00:48:22 congregation is more independent and
00:48:25 actually kind of independent from
00:48:29 the whole uh despite how it is today.
00:48:33 >> But the interesting thing is is that
00:48:35 John and this seems to have John Whitmer
00:48:37 in his capacity as historian
00:48:41 acting
00:48:43 separate acting apart from the interests
00:48:46 of the church. He’s going from place to
00:48:49 place to gather this information. But
00:48:52 >> yeah, I don’t know if it’s a separate
00:48:54 from the church. It’s just it’s um he’s
00:48:58 getting histories from the church from
00:49:01 the various Yeah. But it’s local
00:49:03 congregations.
00:49:04 >> It’s from local congregations. It’s from
00:49:06 people who know. It’s not okay.
00:49:09 Everybody send all your reports and the
00:49:11 historian will now collate them into
00:49:14 this uh into a uh
00:49:16 >> into a volume
00:49:18 >> into a volume.
00:49:19 >> I I do think Ben makes a good point
00:49:21 right there. It’s not that they’re all
00:49:23 sending it to a central location. The
00:49:26 one in charge is going from place to
00:49:28 place instead of it getting sent to him
00:49:30 like it is today. I think it’s also
00:49:33 important to point out this connection
00:49:35 to verse four and also that he received
00:49:39 counsel and assistance from my servant
00:49:41 Oliver Cry and others.
00:49:48 If you counsel with somebody, you are
00:49:50 obtaining knowledge from them. So he is
00:49:54 to go and he is to counsel with people
00:49:59 so that he may know what is going on in
00:50:02 those different in in each of the
00:50:05 churches.
00:50:08 >> That’s an interesting point, John,
00:50:09 because uh writing a report is way
00:50:13 different than the interaction, the
00:50:15 going back and forth. Mhm.
00:50:17 >> And so I think that’s good that he’s
00:50:19 bringing out is one of the
00:50:22 uh important points that goes along with
00:50:24 the reason to travel. Now I I to add to
00:50:27 that
00:50:30 um traveling back then compared to today
00:50:33 is a lot more expensive.
00:50:36 >> Oh yeah.
00:50:37 >> And it took quite a bit longer.
00:50:41 >> Yes. And and so the reason I’m bringing
00:50:42 this out is today it’s so easy to send
00:50:46 an email. Okay.
00:50:48 >> Oh yeah.
00:50:49 >> But it comparatively from back then it
00:50:53 was I think the difference in being able
00:50:58 to travel and send a message is greatly
00:51:05 bigger in the contrast of how easy or
00:51:08 hard it is,
00:51:10 >> right? Then it um
00:51:13 and the reason I’m bringing this out is
00:51:14 because it’s showing the emphasis that
00:51:17 John brought out of the need of the
00:51:19 traveling. It was way harder back then
00:51:22 to travel than it is now compared to
00:51:25 just sending a message.
00:51:27 >> Correct. Yep.
00:51:28 >> And so I I’m trying to bring out how
00:51:33 this is bringing out it’s not about
00:51:34 convenience.
00:51:36 >> No, it absolutely is not. It’s about the
00:51:40 one onone.
00:51:42 >> Yeah,
00:51:42 >> it’s about the counseling.
00:51:45 >> Oh, wait a minute. And we’re about to
00:51:47 read verse 8, which
00:51:51 along with getting knowledge about
00:51:53 what’s happening in the churches.
00:51:55 >> He is also supposed to do this. And I’ll
00:51:59 read verse eight. preaching and
00:52:01 expounding,
00:52:03 writing, copying, selecting, and
00:52:05 obtaining all things which shall be for
00:52:09 the good of the church and for the
00:52:11 rising generations that shall grow up on
00:52:14 the land of Zion to possess it from
00:52:17 generation to generation forever and
00:52:20 ever. Amen.
00:52:22 I love just like they did in the Old
00:52:25 Testament records with Ecclesiastes
00:52:28 and first and 2 Kings and 1 and 2
00:52:31 Chronicles. I’m sure
00:52:34 that they very easily left out how King
00:52:39 Solomon dropped a deuce on the 13th day
00:52:43 of whatever month it was. Okay, that’s
00:52:46 not important for us to know that.
00:52:51 Okay. But I’m sure it was written down
00:52:54 somewhere.
00:52:55 But it’s not important for us to know
00:52:57 that. What is important for us to know
00:52:59 is what we have.
00:53:00 >> I think he’s referring to the uh
00:53:02 selecty.
00:53:03 >> Yes, I am.
00:53:05 >> Yes. Yes. Good call there, Ben.
00:53:08 [laughter]
00:53:10 >> Sorry. Yes. The selecting selection.
00:53:13 There is a process of selection. Those
00:53:15 things Well, let me finish. Let me
00:53:17 finish real quick. There are those
00:53:19 things that are most important
00:53:23 for the and I love and obtaining all
00:53:27 things which shall be for the good of
00:53:29 the church. All things it ah it’s not in
00:53:35 the Old Testament but I want to say that
00:53:37 within this context it could very well
00:53:40 point to the lessons that he learns that
00:53:43 will point him to Torah.
00:53:45 >> No, I actually agree with that. I do
00:53:47 think this all things here has a double
00:53:49 meaning here. Okay.
00:53:50 >> There’s only there’s only uh there’s
00:53:53 only one set of all things that’s good
00:53:55 for the church.
00:53:56 >> Yeah.
00:53:58 [gasps]
00:53:59 >> Well, I mean that’s one way of putting
00:54:01 it. Well, I I so I [sighs and gasps]
00:54:05 I I love the emphasis Ben is doing, but
00:54:09 um some I do still see this as
00:54:12 doubleedged here because the
00:54:15 >> some physical some
00:54:17 >> yeah there so there’s the most important
00:54:20 tour here and that’s what Ben is
00:54:22 focusing on here but within Torah
00:54:24 there’s some practicalities to to deal
00:54:27 with within tour to take care of things
00:54:30 and I do believe it’s pointing to both
00:54:33 here and not just the one that’s the
00:54:35 more important that Ben’s bringing out.
00:54:36 Okay.
00:54:38 >> Uh but all things
00:54:41 can and does mean uh Torah depending on
00:54:44 context and I’ll I’ll list a link for
00:54:47 one that I first kind of did a major
00:54:49 show on that.
00:54:51 So this is obtaining all things which
00:54:53 shall be for the good of the church and
00:54:55 for the rising generations and that’s
00:54:58 one of the big thing that shall grow up
00:55:00 on the land of Zion
00:55:04 >> and so they can possess it
00:55:07 >> in no there is no
00:55:12 um there is absolutely zero historical
00:55:15 data which shows that the membership of
00:55:19 Joseph ‘s church was was able to grow up
00:55:22 multiple generations in the land of
00:55:25 Zion.
00:55:28 >> Yes. Uh but as Joseph Smith as we went
00:55:31 over at the beginning here is the
00:55:33 messenger. He got everything started.
00:55:37 >> And and so the point the point that I’m
00:55:39 trying to make here is that there’s a
00:55:41 prophetic
00:55:43 aspect of this.
00:55:45 >> Yes. Yes. Yes.
00:55:47 Well, and it’s funny and I think though
00:55:50 that this word tie for all things is
00:55:52 actually pointing directly to Torah
00:55:56 because there’s only one way that you
00:55:58 can grow up on the land of Zion to
00:56:01 possess it from generation to generation
00:56:04 and that is if you are living Torah.
00:56:07 >> Oh, that’s a very good point, John.
00:56:09 Yeah, very good point.
00:56:10 >> Forever and ever.
00:56:11 >> Forever and ever.
00:56:14 Wait, is that another way to say
00:56:15 generation to generation?
00:56:17 >> Absolutely.
00:56:18 >> Oh, okay.
00:56:18 >> Or maybe
00:56:20 and
00:56:21 >> another way that it says favorite word
00:56:24 >> or in another.
00:56:27 >> Yeah, because it’s not a few words
00:56:30 forever one [laughter]
00:56:32 >> or another way that it’s stated in the
00:56:34 Old Testament in all your generations.
00:56:36 I’m sorry. Or eternity is another way
00:56:39 too that
00:56:42 >> and eternity is a very long time let me
00:56:44 tell you.
00:56:44 >> Yeah. It never it’s never ending.
00:56:46 [laughter]
00:56:47 >> Yes.
00:56:49 >> Just want you.
00:56:49 >> So that so that’s the that’s the whole
00:56:53 that’s the whole thing there. So you see
00:56:56 Kora intimately connected with this
00:56:59 chapter in the in the this section uh as
00:57:03 he’s it when you when you understand
00:57:06 things in the light of Torah being still
00:57:08 valid this actually
00:57:10 gains a whole lot of meaning that I’m
00:57:12 pretty sure that it lost on its audience
00:57:15 that on the audience that received
00:57:18 >> Oh yeah yeah yeah
00:57:20 >> I think um so just to clarify I think
00:57:23 Joseph Smith understood it more than
00:57:25 others. Uh, but um,
00:57:30 I want to say this,
00:57:36 Joseph Smith had a lot of freaking
00:57:38 things to do while learning it at the
00:57:41 exact same time.
00:57:42 >> I
00:57:44 >> That is not easy.
00:57:46 >> No, it’s not.
00:57:46 >> No.
00:57:48 Uh, our little group here has had years
00:57:51 to think things through in a calm and
00:57:55 peaceful nonpressured
00:57:58 >> time
00:57:58 >> environment. Yep.
00:58:00 >> Environment. Oh, that’s probably a
00:58:01 better way of putting it. Thank you.
00:58:02 >> And I would and I would state I would
00:58:04 like to state that I in no way am I
00:58:07 damning anything about Joseph Smith or
00:58:09 >> Oh, and I agree. I I’m just He’s trying
00:58:12 to bring out a point.
00:58:13 >> Yeah.
00:58:13 >> I’m just trying to make it clear, that’s
00:58:15 all.
00:58:15 >> Yeah. Yeah, he had a lot to do.
00:58:18 >> Yeah, he had a lot to learn and then he
00:58:21 was going through a lot and he had a lot
00:58:23 to do. He had a lot to learn and at the
00:58:26 same time he was being persecuted
00:58:29 relentlessly.
00:58:31 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:32 >> By the servants of the adversary
00:58:37 >> for his testimony
00:58:39 >> both within and without the church.
00:58:41 >> Yes.
00:58:42 >> Which DZ50 brings that out is one off
00:58:44 top of my head. But anyways, So, so
00:58:50 yeah, that’s Oh, that’s a lot. That’s a
00:58:54 lot.
00:58:55 >> And when I’m talking about the audience,
00:58:57 I’m talking mostly about the other
00:59:00 people that
00:59:01 >> Yeah. the general membership of church.
00:59:03 >> General membership of church who receive
00:59:06 who
00:59:08 >> who vote who had these things who had
00:59:10 these revelations uh read out read out
00:59:14 to them and voted upon them. to put them
00:59:16 into the Doctrine of Covenants.
00:59:19 >> Yes. And yes, there was votes and that’s
00:59:22 in the 1835
00:59:24 DNC which I can give a link to.
00:59:26 >> Yes.
00:59:27 >> Yep. There were votes.
00:59:30 >> There were there was voting that took
00:59:33 place. And by the way, folks,
00:59:37 yeah, those of you in the Brigamite LDS
00:59:39 church,
00:59:41 we don’t do that. That whole raising
00:59:43 your hand thing is just a facade. They
00:59:46 could give a crap less whether you raise
00:59:47 your hand or not. It’s proven. It’s been
00:59:50 proven time and again even in the
00:59:52 general conference sessions whenever
00:59:54 somebody said whenever they gave the
00:59:56 announcement that this person was to be
00:59:58 the prophet Sarah in Revelator and his
01:00:00 two counselors, there was always an
01:00:02 audible no
01:00:05 in the audience.
01:00:07 >> They did it anyways.
01:00:08 >> They did it anyways.
01:00:11 Yeah, it is not the scriptures and I’ll
01:00:14 give a link to the church government
01:00:15 page does not say sustain anywhere
01:00:19 related to church government.
01:00:21 >> Correct.
01:00:21 >> Church government is always always
01:00:24 always
01:00:26 vote.
01:00:28 >> Yes.
01:00:29 >> The sustain is when it’s civil
01:00:32 government.
01:00:33 >> Correct.
01:00:34 >> Now I I have something I want to say
01:00:36 real quick.
01:00:38 >> Yeah. I have been very grateful for this
01:00:42 journey through the DNC that we’ve been
01:00:45 going through
01:00:47 because I always and I know this now. I
01:00:50 always took the Doctrine and Covenants
01:00:52 for granted.
01:00:54 Oh yeah, it’s modern day revelation.
01:00:59 >> Right. But it really is modern day
01:01:04 revelation. And when you stop to think
01:01:06 about how significant that is, we would
01:01:09 all be
01:01:12 wise
01:01:15 to
01:01:16 take in what is in the Doctrine and
01:01:20 Covenants and incorporate it in our
01:01:23 lives as scripture as as Torah. Now,
01:01:26 there are granted there are some
01:01:27 sections uh that are questionable
01:01:30 um
01:01:31 >> and I’ll I’ll I’ll give a link to the
01:01:33 list of those
01:01:35 >> that are questionable.
01:01:36 >> I would just call them frauds to be
01:01:38 honest.
01:01:39 >> Right. Right. But for the most part,
01:01:43 this is modern day revelation. This is
01:01:46 Torah being expounded through the
01:01:49 Doctrine and Covenants to us in our day.
01:01:52 We need to take this book as seriously
01:01:56 as we do the the Bible and the Book of
01:02:00 Mormon. And if they had taken the book
01:02:03 as seriously as they did, And if they
01:02:06 had taken the book as seriously as the
01:02:08 people who wrote the Book of Mormon and
01:02:10 the people who wrote the Bible took uh
01:02:13 took uh took those books, we would not
01:02:17 have the fraudulent sections in the
01:02:20 doctrine of God.
01:02:22 >> Yes. And I want to expound on what Ben
01:02:24 says because they would understand it
01:02:26 and they would have known it
01:02:27 contradicted.
01:02:29 Yep.
01:02:31 And in the DNC, it brings out how the
01:02:34 church members are to keep the leaders
01:02:36 in check. And they would have taken that
01:02:38 more seriously where I’ll tell you
01:02:43 in the B LDS Bergamite church and all
01:02:46 restoration churches and just all
01:02:47 churches in general period, no one keeps
01:02:50 the leaders in check. They just like,
01:02:52 oh, they know what they’re doing. No,
01:02:54 they don’t.
01:02:55 >> Oh, well, unfortunately some of them do.
01:02:58 >> Well, yeah. Okay. Good point there,
01:03:00 Josh. And when they do know it, they’re
01:03:03 actually trying to destroy it to to be
01:03:05 specific,
01:03:06 >> right? But yeah, I do agree.
01:03:09 >> I’m not naming names and I’m not naming
01:03:11 denominations and I’m not I’m not doing
01:03:13 that. I’m just saying unfortunately for
01:03:16 some of those souls.
01:03:18 >> Yeah.
01:03:18 >> They know what they’re doing.
01:03:20 >> Yeah. And I agree on the on on on the
01:03:22 higher levels. I completely agree and I
01:03:24 forgot to say that. Thank you for the
01:03:27 reminder, Josh. Yeah.
01:03:30 >> Can we pause?
01:03:32 >> Yes.
01:03:37 So with what we’ve just read in the
01:03:40 Doctrine and Covenants section 69, it is
01:03:43 such a crucial
01:03:46 uh understanding. We are and it all goes
01:03:51 back to the meaning and purpose of life
01:03:55 to follow Torah or come under Yeshua’s
01:03:59 covering, keep Torah, and help others do
01:04:02 the same. We see that pattern
01:04:05 illustrated so beautifully in that
01:04:08 section that we just read tonight.
01:04:11 >> Yeah. As in they were supposed to help
01:04:12 each other
01:04:15 >> and also also and also this principle
01:04:20 first brought forward with the story of
01:04:22 Cain and Abel with Cain asking the
01:04:24 question am I my brother’s keeper and
01:04:27 the answer
01:04:28 the answer to that question is given
01:04:31 here.
01:04:32 >> Yeah. Yes.
01:04:33 >> Yes.
01:04:35 >> Yes, you are. And so, uh, Ben’s bringing
01:04:39 out a good point how, uh, Cain is
01:04:41 rejecting Yahweh’s ways
01:04:45 openly.
01:04:46 >> Yeah. Which goes along with the mark of
01:04:49 the beast, but that’s a whole another
01:04:51 subject.
01:04:52 >> Correct. And we won’t get into that
01:04:54 subject tonight. However, I do want to
01:04:56 make sure
01:04:58 that brothers and sisters, you do
01:05:01 understand the meaning uh meaning and
01:05:04 purpose of this life. And that is this.
01:05:10 Come under Yeshua’s covering. And
01:05:13 without Yeshua’s atonement,
01:05:15 it’s not even possible to come under his
01:05:18 covering because we have all sinned.
01:05:21 So
01:05:24 come under Yeshua’s covering, meaning
01:05:27 accept his atonement in your life and
01:05:30 repent.
01:05:34 Obey and keep Torah
01:05:36 and help others do the same.
01:05:42 Can I add?
01:05:44 >> Sure.
01:05:46 Um
01:05:47 when we come under the covering of the
01:05:50 Yeshua,
01:05:52 we will receive
01:05:56 uh a stewardship.
01:06:02 >> That stewardship
01:06:04 we will be held accountable for at the
01:06:08 great and last day.
01:06:11 Those to whom we did not sound the
01:06:14 warning voice,
01:06:16 their blood will be upon our hands.
01:06:21 They may die in their sins, but their
01:06:24 blood will be held to our account.
01:06:27 Now, just to expound that a little bit,
01:06:30 uh it is sinful not to help people to
01:06:33 come to Yeshua and his Torah. Okay? uh
01:06:36 in Ezekiel
01:06:38 37 and even
01:06:42 uh first five the books of Moses and
01:06:44 other places bring it out. I could show
01:06:45 the notes if Ben wants me to but anyways
01:06:48 it’s in multiple places including
01:06:51 uh the wayward uh son of Elma Cor.
01:06:57 >> Yeah, it is Cor. Okay, so I remember
01:06:59 that right. Very good.
01:07:01 >> Yes.
01:07:02 >> Um anyways, it’s all over the place.
01:07:05 >> Yeah. and you will be held to account.
01:07:08 >> Um,
01:07:09 >> yeah,
01:07:10 >> because everybody wants to think
01:07:12 everybody wants to think of the covering
01:07:14 of Yeshua
01:07:16 as this warm and comforting place. And
01:07:18 it is
01:07:20 >> if you are honoring
01:07:25 and and observing
01:07:29 and nurturing your stewardship.
01:07:34 >> Yeah.
01:07:35 Yes.
01:07:35 >> If you are not,
01:07:39 >> it is a it is if you are not, you will
01:07:43 not remain under that covering.
01:07:46 >> Uh I’d be careful with that one, man.
01:07:48 But
01:07:48 >> well, that’s true. Yeah,
01:07:51 >> there there’s some uh nuance we have to
01:07:53 talk to.
01:07:54 >> You will forfeit. You will forfeit
01:07:55 blessings.
01:07:57 >> That yes, that is better way to say it
01:07:59 because otherwise we have to talk about
01:08:00 some nuances. But anyways,
01:08:02 >> yeah, you’re you will you will forfeit
01:08:05 blessings. You won’t lose your coverage.
01:08:07 You’ll you’ll definit but you will
01:08:08 forfeit blessings.
01:08:10 >> You will forfeit your inheritance.
01:08:13 >> Yes. Yes.
01:08:15 >> In the kingdom of heaven.
01:08:16 >> Yeah.
01:08:18 >> You
01:08:20 you know you might you you’ll be in the
01:08:22 you you you’ll you’ll probably still be
01:08:25 in the kingdom unless you deny Yeshua.
01:08:28 >> Yeah. Very well said. But
01:08:34 you have no inheritance in the kingdom.
01:08:39 >> So to be specific here, you’ll be in the
01:08:41 kingdom, but you won’t inherit land.
01:08:43 Okay.
01:08:44 >> Mhm. Mhm.
01:08:47 >> Because you will inherit a glory. It
01:08:50 just not be it might be be of the stars,
01:08:53 >> right?
01:08:54 >> As in they differ in glory, but anyways.
01:08:56 >> Yeah. So
01:08:59 if you
01:09:01 for everybody who hears this who
01:09:03 believes himself to have come under the
01:09:06 to have come under the covering of
01:09:08 Yeshua,
01:09:11 I encourage you to study the scriptures
01:09:16 and learn your stewardship
01:09:23 and live
01:09:24 >> or just to clarify purpose of life and
01:09:28 Yeah. And it it everybody has the same
01:09:30 purpose. It’s just how big that umbrella
01:09:33 is. Okay.
01:09:35 >> Yes.
01:09:36 >> Yeah. Be because that that umbrella is
01:09:38 never going to be any bigger than the is
01:09:41 never going to be any bigger than your
01:09:43 calling and the people that you have
01:09:45 influence over.
01:09:47 >> Yeah.
01:09:51 So
01:09:54 observe that stewardship, nurture it,
01:09:57 grow it,
01:09:59 be bear fruit.
01:10:05 I would like
01:10:06 >> fruits meet for repentance.
01:10:09 And I would like to add one more thing
01:10:13 in Alma chapter five. Lama asks a very
01:10:17 poignant question.
01:10:19 Have you had his countenance his image
01:10:23 or his image in or uh engraven in your
01:10:26 countenances? Or in other words, have
01:10:28 you taken his character upon you? His
01:10:32 character is found in his Torah and that
01:10:35 his being Yo.
01:10:39 Have you lived his law? Well,
01:10:42 >> so I I I would put the word is defined
01:10:46 in Torah to make it a little more exped.
01:10:49 >> The idea is there. I’m just being
01:10:50 technical. Timmy.
01:10:52 >> Yeah. Well, it is defined in Torah. So,
01:10:56 do you have his countenance or his image
01:11:01 or his character? All of these words are
01:11:05 synonyms here.
01:11:08 >> That’s a big word. What is I’m just
01:11:10 kidding. I know means the same same or
01:11:13 like meaning
01:11:15 >> and can be used interchangeably.
01:11:17 Um so
01:11:18 >> when you wake up in the morning and look
01:11:20 in the mirror,
01:11:22 can you imagine yourself standing in
01:11:26 Yeshua’s place?
01:11:30 As a dy authorized servant of Yahwa
01:11:34 teaching the gospel.
01:11:38 In addition to that, I would also add if
01:11:42 we will recognize Yeshua because we will
01:11:45 be like Yeshua.
01:11:47 >> If we’re not like him,
01:11:50 >> we will be like the Sadducees and the
01:11:53 Pharisees
01:11:55 >> and reject him and judge him to be of
01:11:58 not or nothing to in more modern
01:12:02 English. Okay.
01:12:03 >> And in so doing forfeit our inheritance.
01:12:08 Yeah, because we’ll reject him.
01:12:11 >> So why
01:12:13 why eek or not? Why eek or even come
01:12:18 even close to not even coming in or
01:12:22 being a part of
01:12:25 such wonderful glories that he has for
01:12:28 you.
01:12:31 Repent.
01:12:34 Take his covering upon you.
01:12:37 That’s Yeshua’s covering upon you. Keep
01:12:40 his Torah
01:12:42 and help others do the same. It is vital
01:12:46 that you start and it is vital that you
01:12:50 learn
01:12:52 uh that you learn your stewardships.
01:12:55 These things we do say humbly
01:12:59 in the name of Yeshua Hamashiach. Amen.
01:13:02 Amen. Amen.