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Summary:

Subjects range from Word of Wisdom, Revelation 9 including the scorpion, LDS Temples, Torah, Tithing, Holy Spirit / Ghost, Q, John L. Lund, Micheale Mclean, D&C 58:8, D&C 27:5.

Links:

• The Holy Spirit and The Holy Ghost are the Same
• The Holy Ghost – ironrodpodcast
• wow – mormonthink
• Q
• scorpion sting symptoms
• ELOHIM – אלהים – One or many “gods”?
• Temple Penalties are Still Present Implicitly
• Mighty One Chiasmus
• covid-19 symptoms
• Tithing

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00:00:00 magic
00:00:02 I it’s recording so on on the holy ghost
00:00:07 in the sign
00:00:10 um so I was uh re-reading
00:00:13 the tree alive
00:00:15 for a couple reasons
00:00:17 but I was focusing
00:00:20 um on the fruit and I can talk about
00:00:23 that why later but one thing I found
00:00:26 interesting
00:00:28 was uh the the dove let me find my notes
00:00:32 on that
00:00:33 um
00:00:34 there we go
00:00:36 so
00:00:38 in first Nephi 11 27.
00:00:42 that’s when crisis baptized and the
00:00:45 and the dove comes upon them like a sign
00:00:47 so I’m gonna read it real quick
00:00:50 and I looked and beheld the Redeemer of
00:00:53 the world of whom my father had spoken
00:00:56 and I also behold the prophet who would
00:00:59 prepare the way before him
00:01:02 John the Baptist and the Lamb of God
00:01:04 went forth and was baptized of him and
00:01:07 after he was baptized I beheld the
00:01:10 heavens open
00:01:13 and the Holy Ghost came down out of
00:01:15 heaven and abide upon him in the form of
00:01:18 a dove so
00:01:21 I still haven’t completely figured out
00:01:24 what
00:01:25 the form of a dove is
00:01:28 um in the past I have and I still
00:01:31 believe this is probably at least part
00:01:33 of it if not all of it that doves have
00:01:36 to do with peace
00:01:39 um like the peace offering has to do
00:01:41 with doves you offer doves
00:01:44 I believe anyways
00:01:48 um
00:01:48 this is something I’m still trying to
00:01:50 figure out but one thing was last time
00:01:51 reading through this I found two other
00:01:54 scriptures reading through
00:01:56 um
00:01:57 the two different Tree of Life visions
00:02:00 that I think correlate with that verse
00:02:03 27 so the next one
00:02:05 is verse 30.
00:02:08 which makes me wonder if there’s a
00:02:10 chiasm but I haven’t spelled spent time
00:02:12 on that party I thought let me read
00:02:13 verse 30. and it came to pass that the
00:02:16 angel spoke unto me saying look and I
00:02:19 looked
00:02:21 and I beheld the heavens open again and
00:02:24 I saw angels descending upon the
00:02:27 children of men and they did Minister
00:02:28 unto them
00:02:31 and so this makes me wonder I don’t know
00:02:35 one way or the other for sure yet
00:02:37 that if the sign of the dove is is that
00:02:41 preaching teaching
00:02:45 well I I keep on for some reason
00:02:49 Deb with messenger
00:02:52 and
00:02:53 um
00:02:56 I agree with that because I think their
00:02:58 Dove is associated with angels and
00:03:00 angels are to give us messages
00:03:07 where the heavens were open and angels
00:03:10 ministered to someone sure uh 135 11
00:03:14 Christ came down and what did he do he
00:03:16 taught them
00:03:18 and right the Book of Mormon makes it
00:03:20 clear that ministering is teaching
00:03:24 um preaching in my opinion
00:03:27 um
00:03:27 and then also here’s another verse from
00:03:30 the Tree of Life
00:03:31 that goes with us in in chapter 26 and I
00:03:35 saw the heavens open and the Lamb of God
00:03:38 descending out of heaven and came down
00:03:39 and showed himself unto them
00:03:42 so this is Levi seeing how Christ is
00:03:45 going to go visit right
00:03:47 but it’s interesting that whenever the
00:03:50 heavens open angels are coming down and
00:03:54 ministering to people
00:03:56 and so when I read this a couple days
00:03:58 ago
00:03:59 it makes me wonder if that is not at
00:04:03 least part of the sign of the dove
00:04:06 but I don’t know this is one I’m still
00:04:08 trying to figure out myself
00:04:09 uh
00:04:11 question sir
00:04:14 um so the time that Jesus
00:04:16 fasted for 40 days was this before his
00:04:20 baptism
00:04:21 it was after so John the Baptist
00:04:24 baptized him
00:04:26 he then went into the Wilderness for 40
00:04:28 days for fasting and that’s also when
00:04:31 um he was tempted of Satan the three
00:04:33 Temptations so
00:04:38 the reason I asked because uh if you
00:04:41 refer to Genesis
00:04:43 eight
00:04:45 okay
00:04:48 um
00:04:49 so it talks about how in verse 4 the ark
00:04:54 came to rest after the flood
00:04:57 had started to recede
00:04:59 and
00:05:01 it took 40 days after that
00:05:06 um but at on verse 7
00:05:12 first a raven is released
00:05:14 [Music]
00:05:15 but then what was the actual sign that
00:05:21 it was safe to resume life on Earth
00:05:25 was that
00:05:27 the dove
00:05:28 you know when she came back with a
00:05:33 Olive Branch yeah and all the branches
00:05:37 that’s why I was thinking at the
00:05:39 beginning the messenger you know that he
00:05:42 came back with the message hey it’s
00:05:45 you can land
00:05:46 now well then it’s also a message of
00:05:48 Peace the olive branch is peace
00:05:52 um right
00:05:53 and I I think probably what Ann is
00:05:55 bringing out is how the 40 days in the
00:05:58 Dove happened with Noah right happened
00:06:01 with Yeshua I mean they’re in opposite
00:06:04 orders so to speak right but they’re
00:06:07 both still associated with each other in
00:06:09 those two events
00:06:10 right I hadn’t thought about that one
00:06:13 before I thank you
00:06:17 why is the dove
00:06:19 um people say like if C2 does that means
00:06:21 luck why is that
00:06:23 I don’t know
00:06:27 I don’t have anything here I I don’t
00:06:30 know I I I’ve heard people say that if a
00:06:33 bird poops on you you’re lucky and I’m
00:06:35 just like why that’s crap why do I want
00:06:39 crap
00:06:41 well they say it’s the best fertilizer I
00:06:45 don’t know
00:06:45 of all poof is fertility fertilizer the
00:06:48 best fertilizer compared to a cow
00:06:51 fertilizer uh yeah actually it’s the
00:06:55 like pigeon poop
00:06:58 um chicken poop if you if you compost it
00:07:01 it’s actually one of the better
00:07:03 fertilizers
00:07:04 yeah
00:07:06 um
00:07:07 well I mean
00:07:10 birds can be symbolic of angels so
00:07:14 I don’t know I did not know that
00:07:17 uh
00:07:19 but anyway it says and third Nissan
00:07:24 um 17.
00:07:25 okay the heavens are open in verse 24.
00:07:30 again they saw the Angels descending Out
00:07:35 of Heaven as it were in the midst of
00:07:38 fire well we connect
00:07:41 Revelation
00:07:43 and word from the Lord the spirit
00:07:48 of Truth the spirit of fire
00:07:50 it’s what refines us sanctifies us his
00:07:55 spirit that
00:07:57 oh I I completely one thing that
00:08:02 um I think that goes along with that
00:08:03 that I I believe is
00:08:06 so in the the garden the tree is
00:08:10 protected
00:08:12 by a flaming sword
00:08:15 right and I as
00:08:19 as humans
00:08:21 before we can understand God’s word or
00:08:23 we reach to God to reach to the tree
00:08:27 which is God we have to go through the
00:08:30 baptism of fire in Holy Ghost
00:08:33 and I think everybody would agree that
00:08:35 the word
00:08:37 is represented by a sword
00:08:39 I believe the Holy Ghost is the word
00:08:42 and then you add into that the the
00:08:45 baptism of Fire
00:08:47 it’s I see the sword the Flaming sword
00:08:51 is baptism of fire in the Holy Ghost
00:08:53 myself
00:08:57 there’s a lot of
00:09:00 connections that I I don’t know if I
00:09:04 see this I I don’t see the same
00:09:06 connections but I can see why you would
00:09:08 make those connections sure
00:09:18 um
00:09:21 so
00:09:23 the Holy Ghost
00:09:27 um in Mormon parlance is described as
00:09:32 being a
00:09:34 Spirit without a body yet
00:09:38 um I don’t know about that personally
00:09:44 are you talking about DC 130
00:09:49 uh you know I am not as versed in actual
00:09:55 scripture as I should be
00:09:57 wow that’s fine
00:09:59 I think what Anne I mean brie is
00:10:02 bringing out DNC 130 brings out how
00:10:06 supposedly the Holy Ghost has a spirit
00:10:10 but
00:10:12 um Melissa Smith didn’t teach that no he
00:10:15 didn’t in fact DNC 130 is not a
00:10:18 revelation it is written down by two
00:10:22 scribes
00:10:23 and this is a point where the two
00:10:25 scribes disagree
00:10:27 and on top of that lectures on faith
00:10:31 chapter five
00:10:33 teaches that
00:10:36 um the holy ghost or it says in there
00:10:39 the holy spirit is the mind of God
00:10:44 um also
00:10:48 the
00:10:49 the I have a post on that from based on
00:10:52 the Book of Mormon I’ll share the link
00:10:55 but they’re my favorite verse for this
00:10:58 is Moroni 7 2.
00:11:02 um let me get it because this is from
00:11:06 The Book of Mormon
00:11:07 and to me and we can look at other
00:11:11 examples if you want to but this is a
00:11:13 big one that confirms the lectures on
00:11:15 faith that Joseph Smith taught and put
00:11:19 his name on and said that I will be held
00:11:21 accountable for this teaching
00:11:24 but here’s what Moroni 7 2 says
00:11:28 and now I Mormon speak unto you my
00:11:31 beloved Brethren and it is by the grace
00:11:34 of God the father and our Lord Jesus
00:11:36 Christ and so this is how it describes
00:11:39 the third member of the godhead his holy
00:11:41 will
00:11:43 because of the gift of his calling unto
00:11:46 me I am committed to speak unto you at
00:11:48 this time
00:11:49 so
00:11:51 um one thing I I get into in my the Holy
00:11:54 Spirit and the holy ghosts are the same
00:11:56 is I talk about the different
00:11:58 definitions of of mind and one of them
00:12:01 is Will
00:12:04 and you define it yes I do I also have I
00:12:08 list
00:12:09 multiple scriptures where it stays the
00:12:12 Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit are it
00:12:17 not a he or a her in it meaning in
00:12:22 English an idea a concept not a person
00:12:25 so
00:12:27 um English did a excellent job of
00:12:31 stripping gender from language
00:12:35 um
00:12:42 capital w
00:12:44 uh I wouldn’t say there is a capital W
00:12:47 wisdom
00:12:49 um I do know that wisdom is a feniment
00:12:52 in other languages English sometimes
00:12:55 keeps those fundamental masculine terms
00:12:58 and sometimes it doesn’t it depends on
00:13:00 the terms
00:13:01 and it says that wisdom is a feminine
00:13:05 word but so is Mercy and Mercy’s not a
00:13:10 woman it’s a concept right
00:13:13 um
00:13:16 and I’m not saying that my understanding
00:13:19 is correct or anything like that this is
00:13:21 just
00:13:24 we’re trying to figure things out
00:13:27 together
00:13:28 so the original language the Old
00:13:31 Testament treated wisdom
00:13:36 the wisdom of God
00:13:38 as an embodiment feminine
00:13:42 um and then when it was translated it
00:13:45 was
00:13:46 changed to it and then when it was
00:13:49 translated again it was changed to him
00:13:52 and
00:13:54 the difference between the Holy Spirit
00:13:56 he and wisdom she is simply
00:14:01 a series of translations and and gender
00:14:04 preferences yeah of those languages that
00:14:07 they were translating through uh on the
00:14:10 gender portion of the word I agree with
00:14:13 um but I think of the fact that it’s
00:14:17 changing gender is showing that it’s
00:14:19 just a concept that they’re portraying
00:14:21 in the language rather than an actual
00:14:23 individual wisdom comes from God
00:14:27 and God is a man
00:14:30 it comes from Yeshua
00:14:34 um and I don’t know anybody that will
00:14:37 come out and say that Yeshua is a woman
00:14:38 I mean
00:14:42 a female goddess
00:14:44 um but I don’t think any of them will
00:14:46 say Yeshua is female and in all wisdom
00:14:50 comes from yahshua guys
00:14:53 uh I did I guess for me and God and
00:14:57 gender is like I’m not arguing that
00:15:00 you know Jesus is
00:15:05 I’m making this something assumption
00:15:07 that Jesus and yes you are the same
00:15:09 person yes they are Jesus is the correct
00:15:12 word for his name Yeshua is the Hebrew
00:15:15 for him so
00:15:17 there’s
00:15:20 descriptions
00:15:23 um
00:15:24 where
00:15:27 like the father him
00:15:31 um the father what the father hen
00:15:34 uh I will you know like a father hen I
00:15:38 will gather up my chicks type of thing I
00:15:40 forget what scripture that is but it’s a
00:15:42 mother hen from my understanding I I I
00:15:45 but sometimes but I think it’s a mother
00:15:48 hen some translations actually because
00:15:51 it’s a reference to God
00:15:55 um they use the masculine term but
00:15:57 because it’s a concept you know like a n
00:16:02 I’m going to gather up the chicks you
00:16:05 know it it okay I can see the
00:16:08 translation but I I do think that it’s
00:16:12 gone using a concept that a hen a mother
00:16:15 hen does God does the same for us
00:16:21 and I guess it’s not that you know I I
00:16:25 believe God is Mount
00:16:28 I
00:16:30 I don’t I think some of the concepts and
00:16:33 the and the powers
00:16:35 like the Holy Spirit
00:16:42 has you know I mean just like the atom
00:16:46 when he was first created
00:16:48 had feminine in him
00:16:52 before it was extracted and became a
00:16:54 help me
00:16:58 um I don’t know
00:17:00 I I have mixed feelings about that in
00:17:03 fact there’s some Jewish rabbis that say
00:17:06 that there were actually one and they
00:17:09 were side to side
00:17:11 um rather than she came from the rib
00:17:13 like
00:17:15 like they were like almost Siamese twins
00:17:18 right um together I I
00:17:22 don’t know about that one way or the
00:17:25 other but
00:17:27 I I don’t believe that she was actually
00:17:30 made from the rib well it is true that
00:17:34 there is a a translation you know the
00:17:37 translation could be from the side from
00:17:40 you know or or in life where
00:17:44 it’s basically the same meaning
00:17:47 and from the side it could very easily
00:17:50 be well they took the X chromosome side
00:17:53 of
00:17:54 and just doubled it whatever I don’t
00:17:57 know
00:17:58 oh
00:18:00 it could be I hadn’t thought about that
00:18:02 because that gets into the DNA
00:18:05 um but I think one thing
00:18:08 that
00:18:10 probably matters the most because
00:18:13 Adam and Eve I believe were created not
00:18:17 born physically
00:18:19 but our Spirits are Eternal so they had
00:18:23 separate spirits
00:18:25 beforehand
00:18:27 I mean I think it’s the spirit that
00:18:29 matters most and our physical bodies Our
00:18:32 temples here were in our mortal
00:18:35 life during the resurrection will still
00:18:38 get more we’ll get physical bodies but
00:18:41 they’ll be immortal physical bodies the
00:18:45 the pro the great price is applicable
00:18:48 to these studies sure
00:18:51 okay
00:18:53 I actually don’t I walked into this like
00:18:56 I don’t know what you know I mean I’ve
00:18:59 gone to uh
00:19:01 rlds meeting and I said something you
00:19:05 know quoted the Pearl a great price and
00:19:06 you like laughed at me because like oh
00:19:09 that’s not scripture you know and it’s
00:19:12 like
00:19:13 okay if that’s not scripture what is
00:19:16 scripture you know so
00:19:19 rlds the the book of Moses they
00:19:22 supposedly believe because it’s actually
00:19:25 part of their Bible or the LDS tradition
00:19:28 they put it separate Those portions of
00:19:31 the jst separate in the pearl great
00:19:34 prize
00:19:36 um but from my understanding the rlds
00:19:39 church does not accept the book of
00:19:42 Abraham which I I actually do believe
00:19:44 nor the articles of Faith which comes
00:19:47 from the Wentworth letter that Joseph
00:19:49 Smith either he wrote it or he dictated
00:19:52 I don’t remember on that point but I do
00:19:54 believe that with weather is from Joseph
00:19:57 Smith
00:19:59 um which is where we get the articles of
00:20:01 faith
00:20:01 but I don’t believe
00:20:04 ariologists or branches of them except
00:20:08 those
00:20:09 the book of Abraham nor the book of
00:20:12 Abraham I mean articles of Faith or the
00:20:14 book of Abraham but they do accept Moses
00:20:18 but it’s embedded in their um Genesis
00:20:22 rather than being separate like it is in
00:20:24 the LDS tradition okay
00:20:29 but the the RLS church has its own I I
00:20:33 grew up LDS I’m not anymore I think I
00:20:36 think all all three of us actually
00:20:39 sometimes the LDS I don’t know yeah
00:20:47 did you grow up LDS or converted oh my
00:20:50 gosh
00:20:52 I am fifth generation on my mom’s side
00:20:55 oh
00:20:57 [Music]
00:20:59 I my grandma
00:21:02 has been the president of the daughters
00:21:04 of you the Utah Pioneer daughter yeah
00:21:10 Pioneers I don’t know how many
00:21:12 generations I am but I came my my Esters
00:21:16 came across the plains so I’m assuming
00:21:19 with Brigham Young I’m not into
00:21:21 genealogy so I don’t know for sure but
00:21:22 my grandma is
00:21:24 she’s way into it
00:21:26 she’s she’s done volunteer time where
00:21:31 they they
00:21:33 uh what they transcribed
00:21:36 records from different oh my goodness I
00:21:40 remember she she did that when I was a
00:21:42 teenager and she was on her computer I
00:21:45 remember her doing it I don’t remember
00:21:47 it was called this he transposed those
00:21:49 records where they had multiple people
00:21:51 doing on the same records and making
00:21:53 sure everybody put in the same thing
00:21:55 genealogical
00:21:57 yeah she was way into that I I never was
00:22:01 I’m like
00:22:03 when I was LDS I’m like someone else
00:22:05 will do that
00:22:07 because I’m into other things
00:22:11 but yeah she was
00:22:13 he’s been part of the presidencies of
00:22:15 the daughters of Utah Pioneers multiple
00:22:18 times so
00:22:20 my line goes down I don’t know how many
00:22:23 generations but I I my ancestors came
00:22:27 across with the pioneers to Utah you’re
00:22:30 probably a fourth or fifth generation
00:22:31 too probably probably I I don’t know
00:22:37 um
00:22:39 I I you know I’ll be honest I don’t know
00:22:42 why that means anything to anybody to be
00:22:45 honest because Joe because Jesus or
00:22:47 yahshua said in the New Testament I’ll
00:22:50 I’ll make out of these domes followers
00:22:53 when he was talking to the Jews right
00:22:55 because the Jews are like oh I have my
00:22:57 ancestor I’m of Abraham
00:23:01 um
00:23:02 I think the reason is so important
00:23:05 is that certain blessings
00:23:10 um
00:23:10 are
00:23:13 linear lineage based
00:23:18 and whole groups of Israelites after
00:23:23 they were
00:23:25 forced out of the land
00:23:27 and then they came back whole groups of
00:23:29 them lost
00:23:30 their birthrights
00:23:33 because they didn’t keep the genealogy
00:23:37 records
00:23:38 they couldn’t prove who they say they
00:23:41 couldn’t prove they were who they said
00:23:42 they were
00:23:44 uh I wasn’t aware of that that makes
00:23:46 some sense because the land is
00:23:49 definitely tied to
00:23:51 um your ancestors right yeah but in
00:23:54 Israel
00:23:55 you can’t sell your land
00:23:58 you can only lease it you can’t sell it
00:24:01 and so you’d have to know your lineage
00:24:04 to know what your land is actually yours
00:24:07 hmm wow so that makes some sense
00:24:12 um but there’s other blessings that I
00:24:16 guess I I focus more on that it doesn’t
00:24:18 matter if you’re a pure Israelite or a
00:24:21 mixed or if you’re adopted because
00:24:24 you’re completely only a gentile
00:24:27 because like when you were born again
00:24:32 sorry go ahead sorry Abraham
00:24:36 this lineage wasn’t
00:24:38 no his father was pagan
00:24:43 very much Pagan he had all his idols
00:24:46 that Abraham destroyed
00:24:49 um
00:24:50 I don’t remember the exact details but I
00:24:52 think he made his father angry
00:24:56 thank you very much so
00:25:00 um from a whole line of pagan and if I
00:25:03 choose not to follow them
00:25:06 I’m a Christian and in the Bible and go
00:25:08 against them
00:25:09 they’re not going to matter I’m going to
00:25:12 be okay that’s right
00:25:14 right now I in fact
00:25:17 when I was rereading the Tree of Life
00:25:19 recently
00:25:22 it talks about the Gentiles when they’re
00:25:25 I mean this is not the phrase they use
00:25:27 but it’s basically the same thing Born
00:25:28 Again they’re adopted into the house of
00:25:31 Israel
00:25:33 um
00:25:34 I know there’s
00:25:37 ideas out there that I’m sorry
00:25:41 like a type of reincarnation
00:25:44 of a church promises for the this
00:25:47 quote-unquote church
00:25:50 no the promises are with Israel and
00:25:52 those who are adopted into Israel not
00:25:54 not some modern day Church
00:25:58 right
00:26:00 so
00:26:02 you
00:26:05 I think you had the original topic of
00:26:09 the Tree of Life
00:26:11 it’s dry about it because I’ve read it
00:26:13 recently yeah
00:26:15 no when he said read it is there a book
00:26:17 about it or is that just like the
00:26:19 scriptures that were written about it
00:26:21 like the Book of Mormon and stuff like
00:26:22 that uh well I was referring to Nephi
00:26:25 eight so lehi’s tree of life and then
00:26:29 and then also
00:26:31 um first Nephi 11 through what is it 14
00:26:36 uh not Vice Vision the true life but the
00:26:39 tree of life isn’t in the Bible also
00:26:42 um in fact yeah
00:26:44 to some respects you could call Jacob
00:26:47 five tree of life also
00:26:50 um so it’s just
00:26:52 in in the LDS tradition tree life is
00:26:55 generally uh Nephi 8 and 11 through 14
00:26:58 right but that’s a Biblical Old
00:27:03 Testament concept it’s not something new
00:27:05 with Lehigh or Nephi it’s yeah or in
00:27:09 fact I went to Rome
00:27:12 um with my wife and her her brother
00:27:15 and the 16th chapel right they have
00:27:20 pictures of their in of the Tree of Life
00:27:22 in fact they have pictures in there that
00:27:26 I think match very closely to Nephi’s
00:27:30 and lehi’s true life Visions it’s
00:27:33 nothing new God teaches the same thing
00:27:35 to do tons of people those who are
00:27:38 willing to listen
00:27:40 but the 16th chapter has pictures that I
00:27:43 would correlate with the Tree of Life
00:27:45 vision
00:27:46 I’m gonna have to go look those pictures
00:27:48 up
00:27:50 yeah I I wanted to take pictures but you
00:27:54 know you’re not supposed to because of
00:27:55 copyright but I don’t understand that
00:27:57 because copyright is only supposed to
00:27:59 last 50 years and those pictures are all
00:28:02 much older than 50. that’s where you
00:28:04 have to say thanks Disney yeah well but
00:28:07 still the 16th chapel is still older
00:28:10 than Disney though so it should not be
00:28:12 applied to that but yes Disney has made
00:28:15 copyright last longer than it should
00:28:17 because they want their money
00:28:19 yep did you try to say something three
00:28:25 uh and then I forgot oh okay
00:28:31 so
00:28:33 um
00:28:34 I was
00:28:36 doing some research
00:28:38 for more
00:28:43 secular topics
00:28:45 uh-huh
00:28:46 um
00:28:46 and
00:28:49 it really
00:28:52 hit me how even if it’s not like literal
00:28:56 at all
00:28:58 how
00:29:00 literal
00:29:02 the Bible is
00:29:04 how literal descriptions are
00:29:07 um
00:29:09 so what I was researching was
00:29:12 origins of autism
00:29:15 and
00:29:16 it’s through there that I actually
00:29:18 learned
00:29:19 how all-encompassing the immune system
00:29:22 is
00:29:24 and that
00:29:26 your neural system
00:29:28 is
00:29:30 has a tendency of growing and it’s your
00:29:32 immune system that actually prunes it to
00:29:34 keep it from being over stimulated and
00:29:38 overclocked
00:29:40 and this is a process that happens all
00:29:43 your life
00:29:45 and and
00:29:50 the scripture is talking about how God
00:29:54 is the gardener
00:29:56 how he will prune the vine how he you
00:30:01 know all these metaphors
00:30:05 uh to plants especially like olive trees
00:30:09 and fig trees and grapevines
00:30:15 [Music]
00:30:15 um
00:30:17 they’re very much like going in the law
00:30:19 system
00:30:24 that’s cool I’ve never
00:30:27 thought about that
00:30:29 um I I agree I think that an imagery is
00:30:31 perfect
00:30:33 that goes along
00:30:34 even though you’re looking into secular
00:30:37 stuff there’s definitely that spiritual
00:30:39 connection yeah I mean
00:30:42 it just hits me how
00:30:46 God
00:30:47 is literally
00:30:50 a reality
00:30:52 you know and we all have our bit Parts
00:30:55 in it and
00:30:59 so there’s a song or it’s not a song
00:31:02 it’s uh
00:31:05 it’s a group of songs but have you uh
00:31:07 there’s a LDS
00:31:10 author that did the the garden have you
00:31:14 heard of that and
00:31:15 [Music]
00:31:16 um
00:31:17 I I love that I guess call it series or
00:31:22 analogy or whatever I don’t know the
00:31:24 proper word for it
00:31:25 but I used to listen to that while I was
00:31:29 riding my bike as a teenager the garden
00:31:31 and I just love it
00:31:34 so is it a
00:31:35 book or no it’s a song It’s a song
00:31:43 did you see the whole thing
00:31:45 oh oh yeah and I used to have it but
00:31:50 I’ve moved so much I’m not sure I have
00:31:52 that it’s a really old one I’m gonna put
00:31:56 it on cassette tape I I had it no I’m
00:31:59 sure
00:32:04 I had a Walkman that I used to listen to
00:32:07 and I I
00:32:08 the garden was something I listened to
00:32:10 on a regular basis
00:32:13 um yeah I mean it even talks about like
00:32:15 The Rock how you know I feel pointless
00:32:19 or or the Olive Tree I feel like I I
00:32:22 don’t have any fruits right
00:32:24 um you can buy it on Amazon
00:32:27 um music right now and that’s where I
00:32:29 have it from right now but I I like it
00:32:32 you might like what was the name of the
00:32:35 artist do you remember uh I can look it
00:32:38 up for you I don’t know but I can look
00:32:41 it up
00:32:42 well maybe after
00:32:44 well let’s do real right now it won’t
00:32:46 take long oh okay
00:32:52 um
00:32:55 I found the scripture about
00:32:58 um the tree of life that I was looking
00:33:00 at
00:33:03 sure
00:33:04 well it was revelation 22.
00:33:08 verse 2.
00:33:11 it says in the midst of the street of it
00:33:14 and on either side of the river was
00:33:17 there the Tree of Life which bear 12
00:33:21 manner of fruits and yielded her fruit
00:33:24 every month and the leaves of three were
00:33:27 for the healing of the Nations
00:33:30 and there shall be no more curse but the
00:33:34 Throne of God and as the lamb shall be
00:33:37 in it and his servant shall see him
00:33:41 and they shall see his face and its name
00:33:45 shall be in their forehead
00:33:53 so
00:33:55 so real quick uh the author is Michael
00:33:59 McQueen
00:34:00 ah
00:34:03 and the track is or I guess it’s the
00:34:07 album is is probably the proper word the
00:34:10 garden because it’s multiple songs
00:34:15 um I mean
00:34:18 it has 19 songs
00:34:22 um I’m just looking at right now because
00:34:23 I have it on my computer
00:34:26 um I
00:34:28 I don’t see how long it is but it’s from
00:34:30 1995.
00:34:32 so it’s Michael m-i-c-h-a-e-l
00:34:37 uh correct
00:34:41 McLean
00:34:43 um I I typed it in the chat for you
00:34:46 okay gotcha now you’ve been around
00:34:50 but back to to Brie did you say
00:34:55 they brought forth fruits every month
00:34:58 yeah
00:35:00 okay let me go again
00:35:02 first yeah because that I find that
00:35:05 interesting that every month
00:35:08 I know I I was seeing that as well the
00:35:13 whole thing is awesome because it says
00:35:15 all the way through
00:35:18 ah
00:35:21 14.
00:35:25 well the thing that I find interesting
00:35:28 what verse says month because did you
00:35:31 say Revelations 2
00:35:33 2. oh 22. yes
00:35:37 and I read one through
00:35:41 uh four
00:35:44 yeah
00:35:47 it’s just one stuck out to me and so
00:35:51 I
00:35:53 so this might be because I believe in
00:35:55 the lunar Sabbath in the new moon
00:35:57 right
00:35:59 I mean
00:36:01 for the healing
00:36:05 okay
00:36:06 you know one of the fruits
00:36:08 it will be healing sure sure
00:36:12 um in fact I I don’t know the verse on
00:36:16 this but there’s more in the DNC it says
00:36:18 if you’re keeping your your your calling
00:36:21 from God he’ll
00:36:23 he’ll sustain you and help you do what
00:36:25 you need to do
00:36:27 um as in in addition to that healing you
00:36:30 so that you can
00:36:32 continue what makes me think of that but
00:36:36 the in Revelations 2 where it says bring
00:36:40 yield her fruit every month
00:36:43 part so I think
00:36:46 this goes back to the tree life I think
00:36:48 the crews
00:36:50 is our works
00:36:55 and part of our works is worship
00:36:59 and part of worship is studying but I
00:37:02 think also more what I’m going to get at
00:37:04 with this is
00:37:06 we’re supposed to worship
00:37:09 God on every new moon is brought up in
00:37:13 Isaiah 66 23.
00:37:16 so it goes back to The Obedience of
00:37:19 keeping his loss
00:37:23 the fruits of righteousness is that
00:37:26 we’re keeping his law
00:37:29 right in fact that’s what the whole
00:37:31 reason I was reading the the the Tree of
00:37:34 Life visions
00:37:37 and knee highs is to find evidence of
00:37:42 that fact one of the reasons anyways
00:37:44 because there was another one because of
00:37:46 the post that I’m working on
00:37:48 my primary post I’m working on
00:37:51 um also Associates with this also but I
00:37:54 the main reason I was reading is to
00:37:57 bring out how or find evidence that
00:38:00 fruits are are worked the things that we
00:38:03 do and I I believe I found some of that
00:38:06 for example the fruit is white or
00:38:09 whiteness
00:38:12 um
00:38:14 righteousness is associated with
00:38:16 whiteness
00:38:18 yeah and sanctified
00:38:21 correct correct
00:38:23 so it doesn’t come out right and say it
00:38:26 but I think if you
00:38:28 understand the imagery that’s being used
00:38:31 it shows that our fruits is
00:38:35 keeping the Commandments of God or what
00:38:38 I would say is Torah
00:38:44 but
00:38:45 um
00:38:48 it’s interesting to me how
00:38:51 all these verses kind of interact with
00:38:54 each other and teach the same thing with
00:38:56 each other and I think it’s because it’s
00:38:58 all from the same God
00:39:01 what I understand
00:39:03 fully with my children
00:39:06 um when we first started this Stephen
00:39:10 um I was trying to figure out what the
00:39:12 heck the Torah was and uh
00:39:16 it’s a very uncomfortable feeling to me
00:39:19 because when I didn’t grow up with that
00:39:21 word
00:39:22 and so anything that you know you are
00:39:25 not used to is going to be uncomfortable
00:39:28 yeah it’s constant it’s I have a hard
00:39:31 time saying it but conscience
00:39:33 dissonance yeah
00:39:36 you had to grow into it
00:39:38 yes I did and and I’m the type that if
00:39:42 I’m not used to something or if I’m not
00:39:45 sure something I put it on the Shelf I
00:39:49 prove it
00:39:50 you know I use it throughout the day and
00:39:54 I’m going okay heavenly father I’m
00:39:56 looking for the fruits of this I’m
00:40:00 trying to see is it a fruit worthy of
00:40:03 keeping will it produce sweet and
00:40:06 delicious
00:40:07 to me or is it bitter and must I discard
00:40:10 it like you know Alma’s words
00:40:14 and milk and I experiment with it and
00:40:19 since Stephen has
00:40:23 um been sharing with me it’s been
00:40:26 interesting the spirit has shown me you
00:40:29 know a scripture here a scripture there
00:40:32 and it’ll be the law
00:40:34 and we started out
00:40:37 um like but the law was fulfilled and so
00:40:40 he worked with me and we had to go
00:40:43 through definitions and we liked the
00:40:47 1828 is that it
00:40:49 1828 dictionary yeah we yeah I mean even
00:40:53 fulfilled shows that it can be somewhat
00:40:56 teaching but we even used Book of Mormon
00:40:58 verses but yeah
00:41:00 right and so as I was taught through the
00:41:06 spirit and was shown scripture after the
00:41:09 other I was thinking oh my word
00:41:12 it is teaching it it is preaching that
00:41:16 this is what a Benedictine did this is
00:41:19 what Nephi did you know this is what
00:41:21 Jacobs did and
00:41:24 um most of our perversion and our
00:41:27 Abominations
00:41:29 and our decline of our society and the
00:41:33 corruptness is because hearts and Minds
00:41:38 have been turned away from the very law
00:41:42 that God himself Yahweh
00:41:46 wrote with his own finger
00:41:49 no
00:41:51 and then I is like whoa
00:41:55 it is so important that we turn to it
00:41:58 and not only is it the law but
00:42:04 it’s the
00:42:07 the Firm Foundation
00:42:10 that I have seen that everything else is
00:42:14 built on
00:42:16 oh yeah I I think going growing up as I
00:42:19 grew up Christian
00:42:20 I mean LDS Christian right
00:42:24 I mean we’re taught that the law is over
00:42:26 or done with right but yeah
00:42:30 but that’s a false tradition well
00:42:33 I think that you’re I agree
00:42:37 um fulfilled
00:42:40 doesn’t necessarily mean and now you can
00:42:43 go party you know
00:42:46 yeah
00:42:47 yeah it really doesn’t mean that
00:42:49 I mean when you when you look at what
00:42:51 Paul has to say I think as Paul who was
00:42:54 the one that said what’s the point of
00:42:56 repenting
00:42:58 and being forgiven of your sins if
00:43:00 you’re just going to go right back and
00:43:01 doing it again right and there wouldn’t
00:43:04 even be a concept of the sin if
00:43:06 fulfillment meant that’s the end of it
00:43:08 you know what I mean I completely agree
00:43:11 with you if there was no law we could
00:43:13 not sin
00:43:28 all the prophets taught it
00:43:31 they got Nephi 90 there’s no fixed
00:43:34 punishment
00:43:35 if there isn’t a law
00:43:38 yeah
00:43:40 well we know there’s a punishment we
00:43:43 know there’s an eternal punishment
00:43:48 and were judged by what our thoughts our
00:43:53 Deeds
00:43:56 that’s our work
00:43:58 whether we’re obedient or not so what
00:44:02 are we obedient to
00:44:04 the law
00:44:07 yep
00:44:11 we’re obedient to the graph that we have
00:44:14 to the Tree of Life
00:44:16 for sure I
00:44:18 was being grafted in
00:44:21 drafted in I mean and we’re crafted into
00:44:24 Israel in Israel
00:44:29 Israel’s a big concept but um yes it is
00:44:33 because because I mean Israel and House
00:44:35 of Israel can mean different things but
00:44:37 um but like Judah I’m Judah is for the
00:44:43 most part Jews but it’s also the
00:44:46 southern Kingdom
00:44:48 that’s why Nephi could call himself a
00:44:50 Jew even though he’s Manasseh because he
00:44:52 lived in the southern Kingdom
00:44:55 them and so Jew is an overloaded word it
00:44:59 has multiple meanings depending on the
00:45:01 context but
00:45:03 Jews in general
00:45:06 um they’ve
00:45:07 they kind of focus on the law and they
00:45:09 kind of not the reason I say that is
00:45:11 because they
00:45:14 Jews
00:45:16 today the Orthodox Jews are descendants
00:45:19 of the Sadducees or the Pharisees I
00:45:22 forget which one it is
00:45:24 um but they’re descendants of the
00:45:25 Sadducees or the Pharisees who Jews who
00:45:28 Yeshua chewed out how they followed the
00:45:32 false traditions instead of the written
00:45:35 law and so they still do that so they
00:45:37 kind of focus on the law in some cases
00:45:39 in some cases they don’t
00:45:43 um and so I
00:45:45 it can be confusing for someone who’s
00:45:47 starting to get into this subject
00:45:49 because they’ll most people who talk
00:45:52 about Torah are the Orthodox Jews who I
00:45:57 think
00:45:58 focus more on their false Traditions
00:46:00 than they do actually on the written law
00:46:02 they focus on
00:46:05 the difference in the LDS church in the
00:46:09 um
00:46:10 book the policy or whatever it is oh the
00:46:13 the church handbook of instructions so
00:46:16 what they like to talk about in the
00:46:19 Mormon church is that they plant Hedges
00:46:23 to protect the fences to hide the fences
00:46:26 and when you’re all done with it you end
00:46:28 up with the corn maze and that’s what
00:46:30 you call your gospel
00:46:32 you know and it’s like no wonder it’s so
00:46:34 damn confusing because it’s like
00:46:39 you know it’s like it’s that whole let’s
00:46:42 drink let’s not drink coffee so that
00:46:44 we’re not drinking hot drink
00:46:46 yeah
00:46:48 I completely agree with you Dan
00:46:53 LDS church is the modern Sadducees and
00:46:56 Pharisees
00:46:57 completely
00:47:00 um and you know since you bring a coffee
00:47:02 the word of wisdom doesn’t actually say
00:47:05 coffee
00:47:08 tradition on top of that in verse two it
00:47:13 says Thou shalt not
00:47:15 um
00:47:16 oh no I better go look it up and or or
00:47:20 constraint it’s constrained the word
00:47:22 right it’s not by commandment or it’s
00:47:25 constrained and constraint means
00:47:30 that if you
00:47:32 provide punishments for someone for
00:47:36 doing something opposite of that or
00:47:38 taking away Privileges and that’s
00:47:40 exactly what the element does they take
00:47:43 away the temple
00:47:45 if you don’t
00:47:47 that’s my wife and my baby
00:47:52 um he’s beautiful
00:47:54 thank you
00:47:56 um but they take away privileges if you
00:47:58 don’t keep their current interpretation
00:48:00 of the word of wisdom and it’s changed
00:48:05 they included hot chocolate and hot
00:48:08 soups and one time I believe it
00:48:12 they finally had to make a statement
00:48:14 that no Coke and Pepsi are not against
00:48:17 the word of wisdom
00:48:19 yeah because it was hot it burned your
00:48:22 nose and it burns your tongue when you
00:48:24 drink it yeah
00:48:26 yeah well yes they sold it
00:48:30 at the cafeteria in
00:48:33 Pepsi the reason so
00:48:36 there’s a good
00:48:38 um article
00:48:40 where is it at I have to look it up but
00:48:42 there’s a good article I’ll find out
00:48:44 where it’s at for you
00:48:46 um because I I I learned this from
00:48:48 reading the article but it talks about
00:48:51 that exact case issue of Coke and Pepsi
00:48:58 um and it was because
00:49:00 oh think Mormon Mormon think is on
00:49:03 Mormon think has a good article about
00:49:05 this about the Coke and Pepsi
00:49:08 and
00:49:09 I don’t remember who the the
00:49:11 quote-unquote prophet was at the time
00:49:13 but the the leader at the time said you
00:49:16 know we should drink drink Coke or Pepsi
00:49:18 but the
00:49:21 leader CEO or some people high in that
00:49:25 company came and talked to
00:49:29 the president slash prophet of the day
00:49:32 and they convinced him that it was not
00:49:36 wrong to drink Coke or Pepsi
00:49:42 there’s a prophet pushing his own
00:49:45 opinion as the word of God and then
00:49:49 later as a man comes and convinces him
00:49:52 he then changes what supposedly was from
00:49:57 God
00:49:59 um yeah give me one minute and I’ll put
00:50:01 the the link in the uh chat if you want
00:50:04 to go see it but it’s on Mormon think
00:50:07 um
00:50:08 uh uh it’s pretty clear there’s supposed
00:50:11 to be evil though
00:50:13 um the link yeah but he it talks about
00:50:15 that issue the Coke and Pepsi I have
00:50:18 friends that still won’t break Coke or
00:50:21 Pepsi because of that tradition that was
00:50:24 started with that
00:50:25 oh yeah yeah my
00:50:29 sister-in-law got a lot of flack
00:50:32 from people in her neighborhood when she
00:50:34 was living in Utah still
00:50:36 about her and her Pepsi she she liked to
00:50:40 down Pepsi like a fish
00:50:48 I know LDS ice was explained that word
00:50:52 of wisdom has to do with addiction I
00:50:55 will tell you it doesn’t actually say
00:50:57 that but if that’s what it’s about why
00:51:00 are they drinking soda pop
00:51:01 I can go without beer which the word of
00:51:04 wisdom actually says is good for us
00:51:06 longer than these ldites can go without
00:51:10 their soda pop Minecraft right and my
00:51:13 mom is it was addicted
00:51:16 to Soda Pop
00:51:18 um and my grandpa I don’t remember which
00:51:21 one’s which but one liked uh Dr Pepper
00:51:23 one light Coke and one liked Pepsi
00:51:26 you’re addicted to it yeah I think the
00:51:30 water wisdom does in fact address
00:51:31 addiction
00:51:33 but that is strictly in the terms of
00:51:36 moderation
00:51:38 addiction is taking things out of
00:51:40 moderation
00:51:42 you know it might I know this is just my
00:51:46 opinion in general I agree with you that
00:51:49 we shouldn’t be addicted to things and
00:51:51 and if I don’t think it actually
00:51:55 says that specifically well no what it
00:51:59 it says in all things in moderation and
00:52:02 not in excess
00:52:04 what prove it
00:52:06 yeah oh okay give me one sec no no
00:52:09 that’s fine I I don’t know it by heart I
00:52:12 don’t remember the all things
00:52:14 yeah all things and
00:52:18 not without
00:52:20 constraints or Commandments
00:52:25 um
00:52:26 is this the principal capacity it’s for
00:52:29 the weakest yeah the weakest of saints
00:52:32 is near the
00:52:34 that might be verse one or two oh I’m in
00:52:38 I’m not in DNC that’s why I’m not
00:52:41 finding things okay verse 11.
00:52:45 every herb in the season thereof every
00:52:48 fruit in the season thereof all these
00:52:51 things to be used with prudence and
00:52:54 Thanksgiving
00:52:58 that’s not the all things that Anne
00:53:00 brought up though
00:53:10 I remember we we’ve talked about Word of
00:53:12 Wisdom before too especially since I
00:53:15 I’ve talked kosher flaws with you and
00:53:18 right and how how LDS leaders used to
00:53:22 teach kosher they don’t now but they
00:53:24 used to
00:53:27 um
00:53:28 I don’t remember which verse was a
00:53:32 verse that we focus on because there was
00:53:34 one verse that we focused on but right
00:53:36 now I’m trying to find the ones that and
00:53:38 talking about
00:53:41 I’m hoping that I haven’t missed quoted
00:53:44 well I do that in times too
00:53:49 so don’t feel bad but on the tree live
00:53:53 part of the reason I reread it is
00:53:55 because I thought I remember because of
00:53:57 the LDS pictures of the tree life that
00:54:00 there was a light on the fruit there’s
00:54:02 not
00:54:03 it’s just that it’s white so I had to go
00:54:06 reread it because of
00:54:09 these pictures
00:54:11 influenced me incorrectly
00:54:14 um it doesn’t say
00:54:18 yeah it does say that it does say that
00:54:20 but it just says whiteness which applies
00:54:23 to the same idea that I would apply the
00:54:26 light to but anyways
00:54:28 it’s hard to remember everything all the
00:54:30 time for sure
00:54:34 did you find it
00:54:36 because all I see is the word prudence
00:54:40 and
00:54:42 in our moderation the only one that I
00:54:45 would think that
00:54:46 um
00:54:47 would apply to that is
00:54:51 um in more
00:54:54 this gets another subject how the LDS
00:54:56 church added a comma to change from
00:55:00 eat meat spiraling all the time to eat
00:55:03 meat barreling only in the winter
00:55:06 um but yeah only in the winter
00:55:08 contradicts The Book of Mormon that has
00:55:11 and I have a post on this that has the
00:55:14 the righteous people that the including
00:55:17 the jaredites and the new fights eating
00:55:20 meat all the time even when the fruit
00:55:22 and
00:55:24 and vegetables were
00:55:27 um in abundance they still ate meat
00:55:30 and so and plus that contradicts the
00:55:33 things that we have to do during the
00:55:35 high holidays
00:55:37 uh if it was sparingly only in the
00:55:39 winter or famine and that’s not the case
00:55:43 hunger
00:55:46 you know for the grains
00:55:48 sure sure the grains is
00:55:51 more for the hunt that’s how we did I
00:55:54 mean coffee and the hot drinks and stuff
00:55:58 so the hot drinks I
00:56:03 and coffee in fact there’s people that
00:56:05 left the church when he was alive
00:56:08 because him and Emma offered people
00:56:12 coffee or tea I don’t remember which one
00:56:14 it was but there’s a quote on that yeah
00:56:16 they drank beer and they drank coffee as
00:56:19 a custom
00:56:20 oh yeah and Joseph Smith gave money to
00:56:22 people to go Bry whiskey I think it was
00:56:28 um
00:56:28 but the hot drinks I think it has to do
00:56:31 with the temperature because there are
00:56:35 studies out there in the medical system
00:56:39 something that’s too hot it will cause
00:56:41 cancer on your throat
00:56:49 sorry go ahead Bree
00:56:51 what were you saying Bree
00:57:00 correct
00:57:02 that I think that’s why the LDS church
00:57:04 used to teach the hot chocolate and hot
00:57:08 soup was against the word of wisdom
00:57:10 because it’s the temperature portion
00:57:13 not coffee or tea
00:57:17 it’s the temperature
00:57:19 yeah
00:57:25 I didn’t hear you
00:57:27 Common Sense will tell you when you are
00:57:31 taking
00:57:35 what the heck is it going to do down
00:57:38 your esophagus down your stomach I
00:57:42 completely agree with you Bree but I’ll
00:57:45 tell you some history in fact even my
00:57:48 own when I when I was a teenager I drank
00:57:51 hot chocolate all the time I I would
00:57:53 almost say that was my soda pop I I
00:57:56 didn’t drink I stopped drinking soda pop
00:57:58 when I was 12. because I started riding
00:58:01 my bike a lot but I drink hot chocolate
00:58:03 all the time and I’ll tell you I got so
00:58:07 used to the temperature of hot chocolate
00:58:09 I drank it too hot I I know that now
00:58:14 but when coffee and tea first came out
00:58:17 and during the time of Joseph Smith it
00:58:20 was very common for people to drink it
00:58:23 too hot in fact that’s why McDonald’s
00:58:25 had the problem with the I think it was
00:58:28 the hot coffee because people drink it
00:58:30 too hot
00:58:37 oh no it wasn’t a little too far it gave
00:58:40 her like third degree burns on her
00:58:42 thighs when it spilled yeah it was
00:58:45 horrible yeah and she wasn’t actually
00:58:48 trying to shoot she just wanted
00:58:49 McDonald’s to pay for her medical bills
00:58:52 that’s all she asked for but McDonald’s
00:58:54 and the lawyers just went crazy for the
00:58:57 case but so I finished my mini research
00:59:03 and
00:59:05 there isn’t actually anything within the
00:59:08 word of wisdom itself
00:59:09 or section 89 but
00:59:13 when you put moderation into the search
00:59:16 thing of the library app
00:59:19 uh it will quote Word of Wisdom
00:59:23 as a related topic
00:59:29 is not there but I agree that it should
00:59:31 be moderation
00:59:33 um
00:59:34 because I think anything
00:59:38 outside of moderation is bad for us
00:59:43 water can kill you if you drink it too
00:59:45 much
00:59:46 that’s right the word prudent
00:59:50 actually I have some commentary on that
00:59:52 if you don’t mind sure go ahead
00:59:55 um have you ever heard of Dr gundry
00:59:57 yes I like it
01:00:01 um so he’s talked a lot about the
01:00:03 lectins he calls them lectins and the
01:00:08 they’re like anti-enzymes and
01:00:12 um basically
01:00:14 from his what he teaches is that plants
01:00:18 are master
01:00:20 poisoners they’re very good at chemical
01:00:24 protection
01:00:26 because they can’t run they use poisons
01:00:30 um
01:00:31 and the poisons can do a whole lot of
01:00:34 crazy to your world
01:00:37 and
01:00:38 um the Prudence part
01:00:41 conjured with the in-season part
01:00:44 is
01:00:46 so plants want humans to eat them but
01:00:50 when it’s appropriate you know
01:00:53 um because they will load up say like a
01:00:57 tomato
01:00:58 a green tomato will be loaded to the
01:01:00 gills with things that will interfere
01:01:03 with your ability to digest food to
01:01:05 absorb nutrients
01:01:08 um
01:01:09 it it they they just have all it’s a
01:01:12 nasty overall slow weighted out
01:01:16 and
01:01:18 um but if you wait
01:01:20 and let it ripen on the vine
01:01:23 and let the plant withdraw the poison as
01:01:26 it ripens when it is in season
01:01:30 it will be
01:01:32 healthy for you and beneficial for you
01:01:35 as opposed to poisonous
01:01:38 yeah that makes sense I I
01:01:42 didn’t know what to make of the in
01:01:44 season portion in the word of wisdom and
01:01:46 I think you just you just made it make
01:01:48 sense to me thank you for that
01:01:51 um
01:01:52 because especially in today’s world
01:01:55 right we just go to the grocery store
01:01:56 and buy things I mean I like Gardens
01:02:00 um but still most of our Foods in
01:02:03 today’s society is from the store right
01:02:06 so in this it didn’t make sense to me
01:02:09 but that
01:02:10 made it completely make sense to me
01:02:13 thank you and another thing in addition
01:02:15 to
01:02:16 the where it talks about how greens
01:02:20 are only for
01:02:22 the um
01:02:25 starvation the long term
01:02:28 or the those greens
01:02:31 are
01:02:33 babies
01:02:35 and they’re loaded
01:02:38 with poisons
01:02:39 yeah and this stuff that have you ever
01:02:42 looked up the
01:02:44 um
01:02:45 the side effects or the the
01:02:50 manifestations of what celiacs can do to
01:02:53 you
01:02:53 no I have not
01:02:56 it can do
01:02:59 a whole range of things from just
01:03:02 screwing up your digestive system to
01:03:04 making you gain weight to making you
01:03:07 actually crazy
01:03:10 oh
01:03:13 and
01:03:15 um
01:03:17 those
01:03:19 it’s a hyper reaction
01:03:22 to the poisons that are in the grain to
01:03:25 weep specifically but
01:03:28 um
01:03:29 all those
01:03:31 grains have those poisons
01:03:34 in them
01:03:36 and if you don’t do the proper
01:03:40 techniques of fermenting them of baking
01:03:43 them of sprouting them before you eat
01:03:47 them
01:03:53 they don’t have the incense to break it
01:03:55 down that’s interesting but you you
01:03:58 answered a question that I was about to
01:04:01 ask before I asked it about
01:04:04 you know 15.
01:04:07 for use of men or no 1517 right because
01:04:11 it actually 17 says wheat is for beer or
01:04:15 mild drinks which is good for man
01:04:17 because I guess as you’re bringing up
01:04:19 Anne
01:04:21 actually says Charlie
01:04:23 okay specifically it is barley yeah
01:04:28 there goes my memory and now everybody
01:04:31 knows no it does say that wheat is for
01:04:33 man
01:04:34 now
01:04:46 and that’s what demon brings more poison
01:04:50 because I used to be able to eat wheat
01:04:53 and my stomach would not blow us and now
01:04:56 if I eat bread
01:04:59 it’s like oh no I shouldn’t have done
01:05:02 that I gotta go back to the sprouted
01:05:05 wheat yeah
01:05:07 because it makes a difference it has the
01:05:09 enzyme to break it down the protein no
01:05:13 no it’s interesting there I I think was
01:05:16 it DNC
01:05:18 42 also talks about that how mild food
01:05:23 is good for us
01:05:24 and Mild in the 1828 dictionary is
01:05:29 fermented
01:05:31 alcoholic
01:05:33 and bread as Bree I mean I don’t this
01:05:36 may or may not relate but bread has
01:05:39 alcohol in it I mean it’s a small amount
01:05:42 they used to do the sourdough thing you
01:05:44 know that was a natural thing and
01:05:49 sourdough is actually the most alcoholic
01:05:53 bread and actually it was my favorite
01:05:56 bread before I ever knew that because it
01:05:58 was my favorite as a teenager and I
01:06:00 didn’t know this right so
01:06:02 here’s another thing speaking of the
01:06:05 fermenting thing
01:06:06 soybeans
01:06:09 in China it was considered poisonous
01:06:12 before they developed the fermenting
01:06:16 process for soy sauce
01:06:19 they would not eat it because they knew
01:06:22 how poisonous it was
01:06:25 interesting but what about if you
01:06:28 sprouted
01:06:30 probably okay if you sprouted but I mean
01:06:33 just like so the whole point of the
01:06:34 sprouting and the fermenting
01:06:37 is for the
01:06:40 poisons the anti-enzymes collectins as
01:06:44 Dr gundry likes to call them
01:06:46 um are broken down either by the through
01:06:49 the sprouting process or through the
01:06:53 bacteria eating it
01:06:58 and sprouting this is sprouting is the
01:07:02 actual plant not the the seed portion
01:07:06 and so I think the sprouting is a little
01:07:08 different than right that’s when it goes
01:07:11 from being a quote grain or seed to
01:07:15 plant
01:07:16 mm-hmm
01:07:18 you know that’s a good point on the
01:07:20 grain I hadn’t thought about that
01:07:28 I know when I was able to sprout things
01:07:31 I was so I had an energy
01:07:35 and I could digest my food I
01:07:42 I didn’t feel you know sluggish after I
01:07:47 ate I’m I’m cautious what I eat like I
01:07:50 can’t do the pastas the fried food
01:07:54 because
01:07:56 I see an interference with receiving
01:07:59 from the spirit I just can’t hear it
01:08:08 so I’ll I’ll be right back okay okay
01:08:14 [Music]
01:08:18 so I’ve seen I mean I get the Reds the
01:08:23 red powder
01:08:26 um that he was pushing but I didn’t get
01:08:29 it from Dr Gendry I got it from another
01:08:33 one because Dr gender is expensive you
01:08:37 know that’s the that’s the one thing
01:08:41 that I really don’t appreciate about the
01:08:43 medical community whether it’s the
01:08:45 alternative or the mainstream is that
01:08:49 there was it’s always spun in the way of
01:08:52 if it doesn’t make me a book it ain’t
01:08:54 worth pedaling
01:08:56 thank you
01:08:57 yes
01:08:59 so
01:09:00 so do you
01:09:02 get the information that the doctor has
01:09:07 um because I have listened to his spill
01:09:10 uh the ad you know once you click on it
01:09:14 I bought the book
01:09:20 you know it’s like sometimes you just
01:09:24 sometimes you just gotta play the game
01:09:25 that they want you to play in order to
01:09:28 get the information
01:09:30 oh so you bought the book I did yeah
01:09:34 oh see I’m saving everything I can right
01:09:38 now for a move
01:09:42 so I I was thinking well would somebody
01:09:45 have that information on YouTube I know
01:09:49 that he was saying Reds so I
01:09:52 concentrated on this strawberries the
01:09:54 beets the cherries yeah and I just blend
01:09:58 it
01:10:02 um
01:10:06 I think
01:10:08 if you can
01:10:14 go to the spirit to get distraction that
01:10:18 might be your your best bet and
01:10:22 um
01:10:24 yeah and I think you you know
01:10:28 little pearls will be dropping wherever
01:10:31 and it’s just up to you to collect them
01:10:36 I hear you
01:10:38 so I don’t know if we’re still on Word
01:10:40 of Wisdom but one thing
01:10:44 so one thing I find interesting about
01:10:48 Word of Wisdom
01:10:50 in that I started drinking
01:10:53 beer for this and wine for Sacrament but
01:10:58 verse 19.
01:11:00 and shall find wisdoms and great
01:11:03 Treasures of knowledge and even Hidden
01:11:06 Treasures
01:11:08 the little pearls the little pearls
01:11:10 right
01:11:12 their scientific studies out there when
01:11:15 you drink beer and wine
01:11:19 it opens you up for thinking and new
01:11:22 ideas
01:11:23 I need to do both at the same time is
01:11:26 what you’re telling me well I heard
01:11:28 about wine and beer at the same time I I
01:11:33 well it’s one of those things where the
01:11:36 word of wisdom does say you know
01:11:38 not by commandment or constraint so sir
01:11:42 do it by if you want to grade if not but
01:11:45 it also says though
01:11:46 if you keep these sayings these are the
01:11:49 blessings in Word of Wisdom actually
01:11:52 five says drink wine for the sacrament
01:11:56 and 50 that fear no not 15 17.
01:12:01 here is for good for man
01:12:04 and one of the blessings is 19. find
01:12:08 wisdom and Treasures of knowledge and
01:12:11 their scientific studies that how when
01:12:14 you drink alcohol
01:12:16 that your mind opens up to new ideas
01:12:22 mine wants to go to sleep
01:12:24 oh mine doesn’t
01:12:29 I
01:12:36 well you know along those lines
01:12:39 sleep deprived that so Utah is the state
01:12:43 that has the most Mormons in it right
01:12:45 it’s also the state with the most
01:12:48 antidepressants or medication
01:12:52 get me started on that okay well I’ll
01:12:55 just say this beer and wine is the
01:12:58 natural anti-depressant in fact Psalm
01:13:02 says it is to make us happy glad of
01:13:05 heart and Joseph Smith quoted that every
01:13:08 time that he was at a wedding or uh
01:13:12 or was supposed to organize the drinking
01:13:15 or whatever or Refreshments of some type
01:13:17 of party
01:13:18 he has a quote how wine aladdens the
01:13:22 heart which is from I think it’s from
01:13:25 Psalms I’d have to go double check but
01:13:27 uh it’s in the Old Testament it does
01:13:31 that it can it relaxes you
01:13:34 I know that the Lord without at what a
01:13:38 wedding and there was wine and he was
01:13:41 drinking and I look at it and I go if
01:13:44 it’s good enough for you
01:13:46 and you were symbolizing what you were
01:13:49 going to do you’re going to provide
01:13:54 your purity
01:13:56 your sanctification
01:14:01 that I find this very symbolic he turned
01:14:04 water into wine at a wedding
01:14:10 to me that’s very symbolic I mean we’re
01:14:14 baptized with water
01:14:16 and right at that time we’re supposed to
01:14:18 marry him and wine is symbolic of life
01:14:22 and joy and where do we get our joy we
01:14:27 get it from being married to yahshua
01:14:31 and anyways I I just see that very
01:14:37 symbolic of how those two
01:14:39 he turned water into wine at a wedding
01:14:42 and he also drank wine in fact Jesus
01:14:46 said you froze did you keep on talking
01:14:50 if you freeze I was still talking I
01:14:53 could hear nothing both of you
01:14:57 you froze a little bit too
01:15:00 um but I I was bringing out how
01:15:03 um I find it very symbolic that Jesus
01:15:05 turned water into wine at a wedding
01:15:09 because as we’re baptized by water we
01:15:13 then we can then receive the joy which
01:15:16 wine according to the Old Testament is
01:15:20 symbolic of of Joy it makes the heart
01:15:23 glad and Joseph Smith quoted that a lot
01:15:26 in his day when he was in charge of
01:15:28 Refreshments at parties including
01:15:31 weddings can I make a comment here sure
01:15:35 in Revelations it says when it talks
01:15:38 about the four horsemen of apocalypse
01:15:41 it says
01:15:43 the water and wine jump no the wine and
01:15:46 the oil shall not be harmed
01:15:49 sir
01:15:50 uh I I can
01:15:52 Wine’s good for us in fact
01:15:55 um give me a minute
01:15:57 there’s a verse in the DNC that says
01:16:00 when Christ comes he will drink wine
01:16:05 new wine with us right new wine but new
01:16:08 wine is sweet wine meaning it was just
01:16:10 made the the the the
01:16:14 the bitterness comes when it’s old wine
01:16:16 new wine is sweet because it’s just part
01:16:20 of the process of it obviously
01:16:23 I hate dry wine well I know it I
01:16:28 understand people think new wine is
01:16:31 grape juice and it is not the case it’s
01:16:33 not grape juice
01:16:35 the
01:16:37 um pastoration that’s needed for grape
01:16:40 juice was not figured out until the
01:16:44 1850s or 30s or something I don’t
01:16:47 remember exactly but it was in the late
01:16:49 mid-1800s when pasteurization was
01:16:51 figured out to do
01:16:53 grape juice before that it was wine in
01:16:57 fact the white stuff that’s on grapes
01:16:59 when you go to the grocery store that’s
01:17:02 leaven
01:17:05 that’s what loving that’s enough to make
01:17:08 alcoholic wine not very yeah
01:17:12 that’s the natural mold needed to uh
01:17:16 ferment it
01:17:18 ah I don’t know if I’d call it mold but
01:17:20 it’s the yeast well it’s the
01:17:24 and nothing at all
01:17:28 I’m sorry I didn’t know
01:17:30 um
01:17:31 fungus
01:17:33 it could be bacteria I don’t know
01:17:38 is love it is it fungi I didn’t know
01:17:40 that
01:17:42 um I mean it’s one of those things where
01:17:44 bacteria I can’t I actually don’t know
01:17:47 what the difference between bacteria and
01:17:49 funguses I really don’t uh I don’t
01:17:52 either
01:17:53 um
01:17:54 it’s something that used to study but
01:17:55 here’s the verses I was
01:17:58 um so DNC is it 58 8 let’s see and also
01:18:03 the Feast of the things might be
01:18:04 prepared for the poor yeah if you used
01:18:06 to fat things
01:18:07 of wine on the leaves and leaves is a
01:18:12 byproduct of the fermented process
01:18:15 well refined the Earth may know the
01:18:18 mouths of the Prophet shall not fail DC
01:18:21 27 5 build his wisdom to me wherefore
01:18:24 model not for the hour cometh that I
01:18:27 will drink of the fruit of the vine
01:18:29 which is wine
01:18:30 with you on the earth and Moroni whom I
01:18:34 have sent unto you to reveal the Book of
01:18:36 Mormon continues the fullness of my
01:18:38 Everlasting gospel to whom I have
01:18:40 committed the keys
01:18:42 of the record of the Stick of Ephraim
01:18:46 what verse
01:18:48 so there’s two dc-58 eight
01:18:52 and DMC 27 5.
01:18:56 oh okay
01:19:03 is that reference written down in my
01:19:05 OneNote
01:19:06 um
01:19:10 [Music]
01:19:14 I’ll put the references in the chat
01:19:16 before you breathe
01:19:17 thank you dear yeah I I it’s
01:19:22 it’s always easier to see it written
01:19:24 down
01:19:25 yep given that
01:19:31 micro organisms bacteria fungus
01:19:36 are actually extremely important to our
01:19:40 function our immune system are
01:19:45 digestive system are
01:19:47 just function
01:19:50 along those lines
01:19:53 are to eat mold food
01:19:56 I don’t think that’s what she’s saying
01:20:00 well I’m getting to that point
01:20:05 but cheese is mold right
01:20:10 go ahead hun go ahead and the
01:20:15 again referencing to the fact that the
01:20:18 scriptures while tending to be symbolic
01:20:21 of certain things when looked at through
01:20:25 a
01:20:26 a prism a particular
01:20:30 um
01:20:31 way uh literal it becomes literal
01:20:36 um the whole the water not the water
01:20:40 sorry the wine
01:20:43 um with the sacrament I mean
01:20:46 if you think about it why why
01:20:50 of all the things that you could get to
01:20:52 represent your blood
01:20:56 why wine it’s a fermented
01:21:00 drink that’s literally got
01:21:06 organisms that are not part of it which
01:21:09 are supportive of it
01:21:11 but they’re alive why right it’s alive
01:21:16 and the the point is is that I mean
01:21:20 going back to the comparisons of us
01:21:24 being of the vine of
01:21:27 you know of the tree
01:21:30 um
01:21:33 but there’s a connection there that I’m
01:21:35 having a difficult time at articulating
01:21:38 well one thing that came to me while you
01:21:40 were talking so I’ll Sidetrack you a
01:21:42 little bit while you’re trying to think
01:21:43 a better way of saying it when you’re
01:21:45 bringing this up it came to me like why
01:21:48 from the Old Testament represents
01:21:50 happiness and and wine is our life and
01:21:54 and second Nephi 2 it states that men
01:21:58 are that they may have joy
01:22:01 we’re supposed to have joy in our life
01:22:03 and wine represents blood and blood is
01:22:07 life and wine is also joy and so I see a
01:22:11 connection just right now with second
01:22:13 Nephi 2 with the wine
01:22:17 right now
01:22:18 then I needed years Supply
01:22:24 why not a lifetime
01:22:28 so I I have my own wine in the past I
01:22:34 did not do a very good job
01:22:38 um because you know it says wine of your
01:22:41 own makes
01:22:42 right your own make is the preferred
01:22:45 wine to use
01:22:47 um I think it’s fine to use water for
01:22:49 the sacrament but there’s a high
01:22:51 preference on using wine and then on top
01:22:53 of that of your own make right
01:22:56 um I I think part of the reason for that
01:22:59 is so that way
01:23:01 Christ’s atonement is applied to the
01:23:04 wine press a lot and I think the more
01:23:07 that we understand the process that he
01:23:09 applied his atonement to
01:23:11 he will give us more
01:23:13 Pearls of Wisdom as Ann said about his
01:23:17 atonement and I think that’s partly why
01:23:19 in my opinion we should be making our
01:23:21 own wine
01:23:23 to help us learn about the atonement
01:23:25 because the atonement is applied to the
01:23:28 wine and the wine making process
01:23:31 can I just so when I get back to this
01:23:35 I’m just going to say one thing sure so
01:23:37 an interesting thing about the wine of
01:23:40 your own make
01:23:42 in parallel to I mean wine is
01:23:45 blood
01:23:46 blood is life life Belongs to the Lord
01:23:50 Jesus what what is so remarkable no
01:23:54 there’s been
01:23:58 cases of people being returned to life
01:24:01 from death
01:24:04 but Jesus
01:24:07 is unique of all of them because it was
01:24:11 a self Resurrection
01:24:13 correct well before Jesus there was no
01:24:18 Resurrection they were brought back to
01:24:21 life right
01:24:22 but I I think and this is one thing
01:24:25 relates to one thing I’m still trying to
01:24:26 figure out is I think it’s
01:24:29 I think it’s almost 40 that has this
01:24:31 where Alma is talking to his Wicked son
01:24:37 coriandam but he says something of how
01:24:40 this was termed a resurrection but it
01:24:43 really was not and so I think there’s
01:24:46 been
01:24:47 confusion in the past what the
01:24:49 resurrection was
01:24:51 right but I think what I the the
01:24:54 specific point is is that
01:24:59 um Jesus
01:25:01 brought himself back from the dead
01:25:03 correct and he is unique in all the
01:25:07 cases scriptural examples of bringing
01:25:12 the dead back to their bodies and alive
01:25:26 the reason why he could do that is
01:25:29 because he was sinless and he didn’t
01:25:32 deserve death
01:25:34 right that is why he could be he was the
01:25:37 only one that can bring past the
01:25:40 resurrection
01:25:42 because he had not sinned
01:25:44 he did not deserve death I understand
01:25:48 that he was in his life
01:25:52 previous to the atonement sinless
01:25:56 uh because as a
01:26:00 type in a form
01:26:02 of
01:26:03 a sacrifice
01:26:05 the sacrifice has to be without blemish
01:26:09 um
01:26:12 I don’t
01:26:14 know
01:26:16 if I mean if he’s dying for our sins
01:26:21 well it’s fair to say that he himself
01:26:23 had not committed sin
01:26:27 if he was taking our sins Upon Us upon
01:26:30 him
01:26:31 was he sinless when he died
01:26:35 so in I think it’s almost
01:26:38 40 or in that area I’d have to look I
01:26:42 could find it but one thing that I’m
01:26:44 trying to bring out is it states that he
01:26:46 appeased justice so oh just so this is
01:26:50 probably Emma 42. he’s a carrier
01:26:54 okay
01:26:56 good times came to me he carried our
01:27:01 sins before the law of Justice
01:27:04 and said
01:27:06 this has been taken care of
01:27:09 right so his death was
01:27:12 he was in effect by him taking on the
01:27:15 sins
01:27:16 upon him
01:27:19 he accepted the
01:27:22 wages
01:27:23 the
01:27:25 consequences
01:27:27 that we were all
01:27:30 doomed to have for our sins
01:27:34 the wages as soon as death
01:27:38 and
01:27:41 he paid for our sins
01:27:44 by taking them
01:27:47 upon himself and paying the price
01:27:52 so that we could
01:27:55 okay find a way out exonerated he paved
01:28:00 the path
01:28:02 he prepaid basically yeah
01:28:06 and we’re paid for right no and I think
01:28:11 you know
01:28:13 that so
01:28:15 while he is not guilty of the sin
01:28:18 himself
01:28:20 his death as far as I understand
01:28:26 he had to die because that is the
01:28:30 wages of sin that is the cost of sin and
01:28:34 if he were taking that upon himself so
01:28:37 that we could be forgiven
01:28:43 right I think we could look at Alma 34
01:28:46 some because I think Emma 34 touches
01:28:49 upon this some and sure this is one that
01:28:53 I’m still trying to figure out myself
01:28:55 but one thing I I did find the verse
01:28:58 that I was trying to bring out and it’s
01:29:01 I’m a 42 15.
01:29:04 and it says and now the plan of Mercy
01:29:06 could not be brought about except an
01:29:08 atonement should be made therefore God
01:29:11 God himself
01:29:14 atoneeth for the sins of the world to
01:29:17 bring about the plan of Mercy to appease
01:29:20 now I think appease is a key word here
01:29:23 the demands of justice that God might be
01:29:26 perfect just God and a merciful god also
01:29:30 I I don’t know
01:29:34 if it’s a purple quo I think I said the
01:29:38 quote right but you know um basically
01:29:40 you you send for a dollar you had to
01:29:43 price them paid a dollar for you
01:29:45 if it was that why are they using the
01:29:48 word appease because when I read appease
01:29:53 appease to me doesn’t mean you paid the
01:29:56 whole price you just paid enough to make
01:29:59 someone happy with it but uh I think
01:30:03 it’d probably be wise to go look at what
01:30:05 it says in 1828 dictionary
01:30:09 a test that I like that dictionary
01:30:13 yeah you said record 4 15 I don’t see
01:30:19 the word appease
01:30:20 uh if Alma 42-15
01:30:27 42.
01:30:29 if I said the wrong chapter I’m sorry I
01:30:33 I meant yeah
01:30:35 birthday
01:30:37 15 oh no so I said Alma 34 earlier and
01:30:40 we can look at that because that one has
01:30:42 to do with the last great sacrifice
01:30:46 YouTube has the appease I’m a 4215 has
01:30:50 the appease but here I’m gonna read
01:30:52 these from the 1828 dictionary
01:30:56 to calm to reduce to a state of peace to
01:31:01 still to pacify as to appease the tumult
01:31:05 of the ocean or the Passions
01:31:09 to appease hunger or thirst and then in
01:31:14 in square brackets it has this word as a
01:31:16 general application to everything in a
01:31:19 distribution
01:31:21 ruffled or aggregated state so
01:31:25 I
01:31:27 I don’t think the atonement was a pro
01:31:30 quo quo I I’m having a hard time with
01:31:33 the phrase but basically
01:31:35 so it wasn’t an eye for an eye basically
01:31:37 but basically it’s like I think that
01:31:40 terms misunderstood but the way that
01:31:42 you’re doing it
01:31:44 um
01:31:45 correct with the way I think you’re
01:31:47 meaning it I agree right um and I get
01:31:51 that from this verse
01:31:53 15 because it says appease if it was
01:31:57 uh an eye for an eye it wouldn’t be
01:32:01 saying appeasing in my opinion uh verse
01:32:05 16 it says tan satisfy yeah
01:32:10 [Music]
01:32:12 in my opinion that word satisfied goes
01:32:16 along with the p
01:32:18 yeah
01:32:19 yeah it’s it’s that whole
01:32:23 uh Mercy with Justice
01:32:26 um so if you have the conflict of Mercy
01:32:30 that’s the difference between Justice
01:32:32 and vengeance
01:32:35 true
01:32:36 right uh in fact
01:32:39 um
01:32:40 throughout the Book of Mormon I don’t
01:32:42 know where I I know mosiah 29 has to do
01:32:45 with government laws
01:32:47 um which are related to God’s laws but I
01:32:52 don’t know a verse off top of my head I
01:32:53 can find it if we need to but in the
01:32:55 Book of Mormon it has examples
01:32:57 where the evil men if they repented then
01:33:03 they didn’t suffer the punishment but
01:33:05 they only suffered the punishment if
01:33:08 they didn’t repent and I see that with
01:33:11 even the in the Torah also if you repent
01:33:15 okay that’s fine you may still have to
01:33:18 deal with some consequences but we won’t
01:33:20 give you a punishment per se according
01:33:23 to the law
01:33:26 as well of course yeah
01:33:31 the thing is is that ultimately if the
01:33:33 wages of sin is death
01:33:35 and that has been you know if anything I
01:33:40 suppose one could say that Jesus
01:33:42 lightened our sentence you know I mean
01:33:44 we still have some responsibility and
01:33:47 consequences that we have to pay for the
01:33:49 choices that we’ve made we still have
01:33:52 uh to make
01:33:55 retribution
01:33:57 yes like um younger he went around to
01:34:00 City to City repenting he wasn’t going
01:34:03 to the Bishops he was going to the point
01:34:06 of the people heard and did what he
01:34:08 could to restore what he broke right
01:34:11 away so
01:34:14 it’s not to say that we are
01:34:17 completely forgiven and there’s no
01:34:20 consequences for what we’ve done wrong
01:34:23 uh but that
01:34:26 if we’re willing to go as far as we can
01:34:28 in making reparations
01:34:32 restitutions yes
01:34:35 um of
01:34:36 correcting the issue
01:34:41 um
01:34:43 God makes up the difference
01:34:45 but we have to be willing to do our
01:34:48 share of
01:34:50 the work
01:34:51 and and you know
01:34:55 exactly and I think that’s what the
01:34:58 younger did when he went around City to
01:35:00 City repenting is doing what he could to
01:35:03 do restitutions for the wrongs that he
01:35:05 did but knowing that there’s you
01:35:07 couldn’t pay back it completely
01:35:09 yeah because
01:35:11 they’re a ripple effect s that we have
01:35:14 no control over and we can’t ever reach
01:35:19 it because it goes so far you know when
01:35:22 I think of when I tell
01:35:26 at a certain time I was thinking of the
01:35:29 ripple effect you know not only family
01:35:33 the neighbors the angels that work with
01:35:38 me yeah okay that’s so the ripple effect
01:35:42 isn’t just temporal but it’s over six of
01:35:47 us
01:35:47 the reality it it our we are
01:35:55 oh yeah
01:35:59 send us against a law we offend the one
01:36:03 that was ministering to us whether their
01:36:06 children or family
01:36:10 like gossip right I mean Torah actually
01:36:13 speaks against gossip
01:36:15 um
01:36:16 but
01:36:17 here’s here’s a story from a rabbi that
01:36:21 actually like I mean rabbis we have to
01:36:23 be careful with but this one guy went
01:36:25 and did some gossip about this rabbi
01:36:28 and and he came to the rabbi and and
01:36:31 said I I’m sorry and so the rabbi took
01:36:34 the opportunity to teach him a lesson he
01:36:37 said he had him gather up some leaves
01:36:40 uh and then he threw him up in the air
01:36:43 in the wind and made him all his
01:36:44 Gathering he said okay when you can
01:36:46 gather all those leaves I’ll forgive you
01:36:52 um I mean the rabbi forgave him anyways
01:36:55 but he was trying to teach to the man
01:36:57 that there are some of them can’t undo
01:37:02 no I probably butchered the um the
01:37:06 analogy from this Rabbi but I I think I
01:37:08 got the main point out there free was
01:37:11 saying there’s repercussions or ripples
01:37:14 that we just can’t do right and said we
01:37:18 have to strive to do our best to fix it
01:37:21 as well as we can
01:37:27 but Christ makes up the difference if
01:37:30 we’re willing and we’re striving and
01:37:32 doing the best we can
01:37:39 or when you guys freeze and then I hear
01:37:43 you again is that where you started or
01:37:46 were you talking all the time and I
01:37:48 missed out
01:37:50 um my guess is if you didn’t hear me
01:37:51 talking fast
01:37:54 you missed out
01:37:57 I missed yeah I keep getting a
01:38:00 notification that Bree’s connection is
01:38:04 um bad bad
01:38:06 yeah of course
01:38:08 I get a lot of oppositions
01:38:13 well we’ve talked other times I think
01:38:15 it’s been a breeze internet connection
01:38:18 to I I think the internet in uh Missouri
01:38:21 is not as good as it is in other
01:38:23 locations in fact she’s Frozen to me
01:38:27 right now and and it’s moving
01:38:29 so
01:38:31 um I need to
01:38:33 I need to step away from the keyboard
01:38:35 for a few minutes I’ll be back okay
01:38:39 I’ll um see in a little bit
01:38:43 where’s she going uh she didn’t say
01:38:45 where but she says she’s coming back in
01:38:47 a few minutes
01:38:49 um
01:38:50 well it’s a great time to take a break
01:38:52 isn’t it uh okay all right I guess it’s
01:38:55 break time
01:39:09 all right
01:39:19 foreign
01:40:00 thank you
01:40:27 no no we just took a break
01:40:31 said that
01:40:40 I wonder if we all said the same thing
01:40:44 we did we’re all coming back
01:40:47 [Music]
01:40:51 well welcome back yeah
01:40:58 it’s a break time yeah
01:41:07 I wonder what we did
01:41:11 well for me
01:41:15 a lot of drinking this is a big cup
01:41:20 joining so so I I you know I I I drink a
01:41:25 lot of uh I like black tea with honey
01:41:28 and milk but I’ll drink I’ll drink
01:41:30 herbal tea too and green tea but my
01:41:34 favorite
01:41:35 is black tea with honey and milk and I
01:41:39 drink two or three of these a day
01:41:42 it looks like a big cup too uh yeah it’s
01:41:45 this is no dinky cup I think this is
01:41:48 about
01:41:49 two to four of what most people consider
01:41:52 one color okay so about 24 ounces
01:41:57 I think so I measured it a long time ago
01:42:00 when I used to record it in my Fitbit
01:42:03 app
01:42:05 um but I don’t remember anymore because
01:42:07 I haven’t done that for a while
01:42:09 and I like my Fitbit but I know it’s not
01:42:12 accurate and with the current
01:42:15 epidemic oh dear
01:42:19 um I haven’t been to the gym so I
01:42:20 haven’t been wearing it
01:42:22 well
01:42:24 I have my own crazy theories
01:42:27 but I really do think that we probably
01:42:29 are in an epidemic not just a I mean it
01:42:32 is mostly of mind but there is a lot to
01:42:35 it underneath
01:42:37 personally
01:42:40 I
01:42:41 honestly I found some very striking
01:42:44 parallels between Revelations 9.
01:42:47 and what we have today
01:42:50 well we can talk about that if you want
01:42:53 um sure I I don’t know Revelations nine
01:42:56 off caught my head
01:42:58 um I I I do say this
01:43:03 I do think it is man-made
01:43:07 um and I think it’s less of a problem
01:43:09 flu
01:43:11 um as the numbers are showing but
01:43:14 let’s let’s go look at Revelation is
01:43:17 nine and what
01:43:25 you can but has changed things and it’s
01:43:30 all about politics it’s all about the
01:43:34 election well it’s about politics and
01:43:36 it’s about controlling the people but
01:43:39 um
01:43:42 let’s look at Revelations 9 that Anne
01:43:45 sees thing some things in there of this
01:43:48 um
01:43:55 so show me let’s see this is nice right
01:44:02 right uh yeah so
01:44:06 um
01:44:07 if you go to
01:44:09 so first off there’s a
01:44:12 foreign
01:44:16 the bottomless pit
01:44:19 smoke
01:44:20 that basically
01:44:22 darkens the air in the Sun
01:44:26 um
01:44:29 it really we really are kind of in this
01:44:31 Haze in my opinion
01:44:34 you know a very big emotional Haze
01:44:37 I’m sure I can kind of see that and I
01:44:40 mean uh in is it Malachi it talks about
01:44:44 how the Sun s-u-n of righteousness
01:44:48 referring to Christ right
01:44:51 so there came out of the smoke Locus
01:44:55 upon the Earth
01:44:58 and power was given unto them
01:45:02 um basically over the earth I I know I
01:45:04 just kind of misread that but
01:45:07 and he who had commanded them
01:45:10 is a better
01:45:12 or a polyam
01:45:14 apollyon is the Greek name
01:45:17 of the sun god
01:45:20 Corona was named coronavirus because
01:45:24 the nodules on it make it look like it
01:45:28 reminded the people who were naming it
01:45:31 of the Sun
01:45:36 it’s literally this because the crowns
01:45:40 reminded them of the corona of the sun
01:45:42 sure sir sun god worship has uh all this
01:45:47 about the the Rays or the crowns coming
01:45:51 out in fact the Statue of Liberty who
01:45:53 has a crown is Sun God worship
01:45:56 it’s not about Liberty it’s about
01:45:58 worshiping the sun god
01:46:00 anyway so these locusts
01:46:05 were given power to torment man for five
01:46:07 months
01:46:09 and in those days
01:46:11 they sought dad but they did not find it
01:46:16 there was much there’s much about
01:46:18 there’s Much Ado About death
01:46:21 but really
01:46:22 is there really that much death
01:46:24 there’s a lot of to do about it right
01:46:26 and and Bill Gates and that group’s
01:46:30 predictions predicted tons of death
01:46:33 right they I would say they wanted tons
01:46:36 more death but they’ve gone through very
01:46:38 little from it I mean so many people are
01:46:41 scared to death
01:46:43 of their blood their loved ones dying
01:46:47 you know I mean it is
01:46:50 Frozen
01:46:52 us we’re wrapped up in our houses like
01:46:55 we’re in coffins
01:46:57 yeah I’m not
01:47:02 special yeah you know it’ll be
01:47:04 interesting with your your theory there
01:47:06 I I see some connection it’ll be
01:47:08 interesting to see how long the
01:47:10 quarantine lasts if it’s actually yeah
01:47:13 so their power was given to them for to
01:47:17 hurt man
01:47:19 for five months
01:47:24 and then
01:47:26 that’s pretty and then it says the
01:47:28 leader was they’re they’re king or their
01:47:30 head was a better or a polygon
01:47:34 and then it’s what’s come it what’s it’s
01:47:38 what that comes after Okay so this
01:47:42 Corona thing what makes it so incredibly
01:47:44 scary
01:47:45 is
01:47:47 second beast
01:47:49 is that so the coronavirus itself what
01:47:52 makes this coronavirus so scary so
01:47:56 dangerous is that
01:47:59 by itself it’s fine you know there’s
01:48:01 like over 95 percent
01:48:03 recovery rate the people who suffer the
01:48:07 most the people who die
01:48:09 are the ones that already have
01:48:11 pre-existing conditions yeah and these
01:48:14 pre-existing conditions are brought
01:48:15 about by the Corruptions of man
01:48:19 yeah yeah
01:48:22 and
01:48:24 when they find you know and the the
01:48:26 technology that they’re using to create
01:48:28 these and they’ve oh my gosh they’re
01:48:31 fast checking it and it’s like okay I
01:48:34 don’t know what you guys is stance on
01:48:36 vaccines in general are but
01:48:40 uh I I
01:48:42 I’m pro-choice but my choices don’t take
01:48:45 it if you want it fine but don’t force
01:48:48 other people I mean Body by choice right
01:48:50 yeah there you go there you go it’s one
01:48:53 of those things where
01:48:55 if for you personally if the if the
01:48:59 reward is greater than the risk then I
01:49:02 guess you should do it but
01:49:05 you have to evaluate the risk reward and
01:49:10 the risk reward of the I mean it’s it’s
01:49:15 easier to figure out for the old virus
01:49:17 technology the current bios technology
01:49:18 than the stuff that they’re trying to
01:49:20 fast check oh I I agree with you that
01:49:23 but I think what you’re getting is the
01:49:25 risk reward is not worth it in your mind
01:49:27 and it’s not worth it in my mind either
01:49:29 the cost of the stuff that they put in
01:49:33 it causes tons of problems in a lot of
01:49:36 people and they have this secret core I
01:49:38 forget the name of it that you can’t
01:49:40 even Sue The Producers well that’s I
01:49:44 believe that’s only in the United States
01:49:45 but right yeah that’s something
01:49:48 the thing is is that
01:49:51 the risk reward
01:49:55 um formula
01:49:58 worked
01:50:00 for most people
01:50:04 people don’t have the severe reactions
01:50:07 that some people do immediately but I do
01:50:10 believe there’s a negative uh effects
01:50:13 for for your whole life but the majority
01:50:16 don’t die from it or get autism right so
01:50:19 what I was getting to is that so the
01:50:22 risk is actually that because of the
01:50:26 process of how vaccines work the the
01:50:29 sudden turbo jumping of your immune
01:50:34 system
01:50:35 uh through the ex the cytotoxins the
01:50:39 excitotoxins the like the aluminum the
01:50:42 adjuvants the aluminum the Mercury
01:50:46 um the metals are definitely the those
01:50:50 excitotoxins which are used to
01:50:53 turbo the immune system
01:50:57 uh to force the body to create the well
01:51:01 yeah to force the immune system to
01:51:03 create the antibodies
01:51:05 for the vaccine well the from my
01:51:09 understanding the Mercury and the
01:51:10 aluminum doesn’t do that they do other
01:51:12 things but the diseases that they put in
01:51:15 the vaccines causes our immune system to
01:51:18 create antibodies I think maybe that’s
01:51:20 what you’re trying to say no no no no no
01:51:22 no so here’s the thing they had the they
01:51:26 they would have like the either
01:51:28 acellular or
01:51:31 um full virus
01:51:34 um
01:51:35 and and they would put it in the person
01:51:37 that you know they had the technology of
01:51:39 putting in the person
01:51:41 well that’s what vaccines are doing but
01:51:43 the vaccines are weaker of the virus the
01:51:46 earlier vaccines only had like the virus
01:51:51 um to cause the antibodies but because
01:51:55 they did not have
01:51:57 adjuvants
01:51:59 the way that they would inject it
01:52:00 instead of applying it naturally
01:52:04 um the body just didn’t respond because
01:52:07 it doesn’t naturally respond that way
01:52:10 and
01:52:11 it actually virus the vaccines in back
01:52:16 in 30s 1930s were actually considered so
01:52:20 dangerous by the public that they would
01:52:22 rather get the real disease than the
01:52:25 vaccine because it was just you you were
01:52:28 more likely to live from having the
01:52:30 actual disease
01:52:32 though then they discovered adjuvants
01:52:38 and it was kind of an accidental thing
01:52:40 in in the horse it was like in some
01:52:43 horses that they were
01:52:45 mutating they were you know they they
01:52:47 use animal tissue
01:52:52 um incubate the
01:52:55 uh viruses for the vaccines
01:52:59 and
01:53:01 they discovered that
01:53:04 Mercury
01:53:07 it it was there was some Mercury that
01:53:11 got into a horse
01:53:13 and it the horse developed antibodies
01:53:16 after one application rather than 10 20
01:53:20 30 applications
01:53:23 of a vaccine
01:53:25 and
01:53:27 they’re like oh
01:53:29 what if we added the adjuvants and
01:53:33 that’s why we have adjuvants ever since
01:53:35 is because the immune system has to be
01:53:39 kicked in order to start responding
01:53:43 because the approach is completely
01:53:45 unnatural can I ask about the horse real
01:53:47 quick did they do multiple tests to find
01:53:50 out that the mercury made it so or was
01:53:53 just one time and they this was an
01:53:55 observation of one time and it was like
01:53:57 well that’s not very good so okay all
01:54:01 right so they did it once and they’re
01:54:03 like oh there’s the secret
01:54:05 basically
01:54:11 after they found the adjuvant it’s like
01:54:13 they were so you know I mean now the
01:54:17 vaccine actually could at least they
01:54:21 were hoping at first that it would be
01:54:22 permanent protection but you know
01:54:26 temporarily the body was like able to
01:54:30 recognize
01:54:32 the
01:54:33 viruses because so I don’t understand
01:54:36 the temporary because if the immune
01:54:38 system does what it is doing what it’s
01:54:40 supposed to do what and it does do you
01:54:42 just get it once and then you’re fine so
01:54:45 it sounds like this is the reason we
01:54:47 keep getting the flu is because it’s a
01:54:50 modif modification it’s a new flu every
01:54:53 year not the same food because if it was
01:54:55 the same flu in the past we’d already be
01:54:58 immune to it and so the fact that you’re
01:55:01 bringing up that you get vaccinated
01:55:03 something but then it doesn’t last
01:55:04 forever makes it sound like it’s not
01:55:06 doing what it’s supposed to do
01:55:10 I mean you know the whole thing about
01:55:12 booster shops and crap like that that’s
01:55:15 it’s because they realize that the life
01:55:19 of the antigens
01:55:21 uh the titers are only about
01:55:24 five
01:55:25 on the outside 10 years is all that they
01:55:30 last
01:55:30 and oh yeah but okay so I got
01:55:35 um is it the big one you’re not supposed
01:55:37 to is it measles where you get the the
01:55:40 the red dots that itch I forget or is it
01:55:43 no that’s chickenpox that’s chickenpox I
01:55:45 I only I had that I know I had it once
01:55:48 and I’ve never had it again even when
01:55:49 I’ve been around people well there’s a
01:55:51 difference between natural immunity and
01:55:55 vaccination
01:55:56 but doesn’t vaccination purport that it
01:56:00 brings on the the natural immunity
01:56:09 when I was vaccinated for everything
01:56:13 well you know it’s it’s us
01:56:17 it’s it’s they take a half truth and
01:56:19 they’ve spent it all right I’ll give you
01:56:21 that
01:56:27 I mean if if a vaccine was as good as it
01:56:31 is supposed to be
01:56:33 you wouldn’t need booster shocks right
01:56:37 and you know you have to worry if
01:56:40 someone else had it either
01:56:42 if you were to go in and ask for a a
01:56:45 panel a blood panel with all the titers
01:56:48 that you were supposed to have from all
01:56:49 the vaccines that you had as a child
01:56:52 you would probably come up with zero
01:56:54 titers
01:56:57 okay
01:57:02 I don’t know what a tighter is so you’re
01:57:04 a little above me on that one
01:57:08 um it’s an indication of antigens okay
01:57:12 foreign
01:57:14 so how would so you’re trying this to
01:57:19 um Revelations nine yeah so the process
01:57:23 with which
01:57:24 how vaccines work
01:57:27 um by the turbo kicking of the immune
01:57:31 system
01:57:33 creates the
01:57:36 side effect of autoimmune diseases
01:57:42 hmm
01:57:44 okay
01:57:45 so anything and everything that is tied
01:57:48 to autoimmune disease is easily
01:57:52 a side effect
01:57:55 of being vaccinated
01:58:00 okay not always because they’re you know
01:58:03 there are multiple environmental causes
01:58:06 to say like autism or depression or
01:58:09 diabetes sure sure it’s but probably on
01:58:13 average is because of that but I mean
01:58:16 there’s other causes also
01:58:18 right so there are definitely other
01:58:21 causes and and stuff like that but the
01:58:24 thing is is that
01:58:26 foreign
01:58:27 they like to do they like to take it
01:58:29 from the reductionist approach
01:58:32 which is if it can’t be tied to 100
01:58:35 percent then it 100 does not
01:58:40 well but they only use that when it
01:58:41 makes them look
01:58:43 good and because other places they use
01:58:45 correlation as causation all the time
01:58:47 which is not the case in other
01:58:49 situations right they only will make
01:58:52 sense the crazy thing okay so they they
01:58:56 swear up and down they even have a meta
01:58:59 study about how
01:59:01 vaccines don’t cause autism
01:59:04 but when you actually go and you look at
01:59:06 the actual studies
01:59:09 the conclusion is
01:59:11 inconclusive
01:59:13 so they take an inconclusive one thing
01:59:17 that you know something that couldn’t be
01:59:18 proved 100 one way or the other
01:59:22 and they say
01:59:24 it’s
01:59:25 absolute
01:59:27 you know it’s like
01:59:29 I I think there was a court case
01:59:32 recently that the CDC could not prove
01:59:35 that vaccines did not cause autism and
01:59:39 in fact I think it came out that they
01:59:41 modified reports that showed that it can
01:59:45 another some cases cause autism and they
01:59:49 went to court and I think someone won
01:59:51 against them on that but I didn’t follow
01:59:53 it too close so there was a
01:59:55 whistleblower that came out
01:59:58 oh it’s almost eight years now
02:00:02 um so The Whistleblower came out and I
02:00:05 think his name was Thompson
02:00:06 Dr Thompson
02:00:08 anyway
02:00:10 he was head of the study about
02:00:14 Mr at the MMR I think it was the MMR and
02:00:19 autism
02:00:21 and
02:00:23 instead of
02:00:25 destroying
02:00:28 the stuff
02:00:29 he he turned it over
02:00:32 instead of destroying the paperwork yeah
02:00:35 he kept it and then turned it over yeah
02:00:38 he he blew the whistle on it and there
02:00:40 was some stuff in the news like a long
02:00:43 time ago but
02:00:44 you know and he’s still he’s still
02:00:46 working at the CRC so I don’t know
02:00:51 oh really
02:00:54 your daughter yep
02:00:56 yeah
02:00:58 uh teenager early team
02:01:02 yep lovely
02:01:05 uh my oldest is about four and a half so
02:01:09 um I’m a few years behind you on that
02:01:11 one
02:01:13 only a few and believe me it goes by
02:01:15 really fast oh yeah I I so I’ve been
02:01:20 married
02:01:21 um a little more than eight years and
02:01:24 that’s hard to believe for me
02:01:30 no actually no it’s no it’s a it’s a
02:01:34 it’s like getting close to eight and a
02:01:37 half well happy anniversary
02:01:41 but
02:01:43 um to finish what I was trying to say is
02:01:46 that so the thing about the corona
02:01:49 so it is actually common with flu and
02:01:54 many types of different Corona but with
02:01:57 this with this Corona specifically
02:02:00 uh inflammation autoimmune diseases
02:02:04 these are the comorbidities that is
02:02:07 making it fatal
02:02:09 almost 100 of the people who have died
02:02:12 from this disease
02:02:14 actually had
02:02:16 go ahead
02:02:18 pre-existing conditions of autoimmune
02:02:21 diseases uh I didn’t I know they had
02:02:24 pre-existing conditions I didn’t know it
02:02:26 was Auto made immune disease
02:02:30 um hang on one sec sure also from my
02:02:35 study and understanding they are fudging
02:02:38 on the numbers
02:02:41 it is impossible
02:02:43 and funerals are being pushed to put
02:02:48 everything under the quote covered virus
02:02:51 so they are getting money
02:02:54 so we can’t even
02:02:56 really trust
02:02:58 what they’re saying people die of
02:03:01 right I mean it’s it’s that obviously uh
02:03:05 words that I can’t say obvious vacation
02:03:08 of obfuscation yeah obfuscation thank
02:03:13 you I don’t even know what that means I
02:03:15 can’t fear
02:03:17 um
02:03:17 [Music]
02:03:21 or the P find it in the you know in the
02:03:25 Shell there’s like they whip it around
02:03:27 and it’s like it’s a big old magic trick
02:03:29 basically yeah in my world the software
02:03:31 engineer World obfuscation is basically
02:03:34 renaming things to make it look like
02:03:36 it’s not something it is it makes it
02:03:39 harder to figure out
02:03:47 you die of a heart attack you just
02:03:50 rename it right
02:03:52 then you get money well let’s call that
02:03:56 authentication that’s just a plain out
02:03:58 lie in my yeah well the thing is is that
02:04:02 they’re taking these these lies and
02:04:05 adding it with the truth you know there
02:04:07 are people who have died of this there
02:04:09 are people who may have had it but died
02:04:12 of something else there are people who
02:04:13 died and they’ve been labeled and when
02:04:16 you have all three of those things
02:04:17 coming together as the total death
02:04:19 number it’s like
02:04:22 I I do think so or the year before
02:04:27 they died of sloughs sure sure I I do
02:04:30 think that part of the reason that some
02:04:32 people died was Corona but Corona is a
02:04:35 flu that’s been around us for a long
02:04:38 time maybe not this specific uh addition
02:04:42 or modification of it but Corona’s been
02:04:45 around for a long time and I think and
02:04:48 we carry this strand
02:04:52 depending on your immune system
02:04:55 what it’s going to do to your body
02:04:58 depends on how you’re taking care of
02:05:01 your body sure well maybe the
02:05:03 obfuscation is that some people that
02:05:06 have died actually do have Corona but
02:05:08 that’s not the primary reason that they
02:05:11 died the primary reason was something
02:05:13 else
02:05:14 but they did have Corona
02:05:16 and so I guess that was the obfuscation
02:05:19 could come into play that uh and
02:05:21 bringing
02:05:25 um and she’s a little busy so she’s got
02:05:28 a bird and a cat I wonder how that works
02:05:31 that wow very dangerous just one more
02:05:34 second sure okay
02:05:38 um I bet it’s interesting no well I I I
02:05:43 I I want to see how she ties this more
02:05:45 into Revelation because I I do see some
02:05:48 of what she’s the first part where
02:05:51 I see some of the ties that she’s
02:05:52 bringing into Revelation on this
02:05:56 um and it’ll be interesting how long we
02:05:58 are quarantined for
02:06:02 um right it’s to the five months or not
02:06:05 um
02:06:08 okay
02:06:09 anyway I think I’m kind of back okay
02:06:13 I’ve had to leave too because of my kids
02:06:17 [Music]
02:06:19 oh my poor cat is having some issues and
02:06:22 so we’re trying to keep him quarantined
02:06:25 yes we’re trying to keep them quarantine
02:06:28 well that’s appropriate because
02:06:29 quarantine is for sick people or sick
02:06:32 animals right not healthy yeah of course
02:06:36 the other thing that was interesting
02:06:37 about this this particular strain of
02:06:40 Corona is the that there are a
02:06:42 percentage and I’m afraid I don’t know
02:06:44 what the percentages are
02:06:46 but a lot of the people who get it are
02:06:49 asymptomatic
02:06:51 it doesn’t affect them but they’re
02:06:53 shedders you know so you know it’s they
02:06:58 were told
02:07:00 well you know
02:07:02 I have to say
02:07:04 asymptomatic shedding is actually a lot
02:07:07 more common than we like to believe
02:07:11 well what exactly does that mean so
02:07:14 asymptomatic means so okay whenever you
02:07:17 have a sickness or a disease
02:07:19 you usually have certain symptoms like
02:07:22 with the flu you’d have like uh aches
02:07:25 pains
02:07:27 um maybe a fever right
02:07:30 asymptomatic means you’re not achy
02:07:33 you’re not in pain you have no fever
02:07:36 it’s like you don’t even have it it’s
02:07:38 like
02:07:39 if you are how you are right now
02:07:42 and your carrier with no symptoms or
02:07:45 someone who has it or is affected by it
02:07:47 but has none of the typical uh symptoms
02:07:50 right so you have it but you’re not sick
02:07:54 from it is it because it comes to the
02:07:57 immune system is stronger and they’re
02:07:59 fighting it
02:08:01 I mean our body gets attacked daily
02:08:05 by thinking right and depending
02:08:09 it weakens it or we fight against I mean
02:08:12 chances are you’re probably asymptomatic
02:08:14 for maybe like
02:08:16 30 diseases right now hang on one second
02:08:23 see with that concept I can see
02:08:26 fear
02:08:28 would just be promoted oh my gosh I
02:08:31 might be a carrier the the whole media
02:08:34 on this thing is fear everything yeah
02:08:39 so I have learned more about the virus
02:08:45 and medical some of the medical stuff
02:08:47 watching videos of doctors talking about
02:08:49 it than on the news the real journalism
02:08:52 that’s happening are these
02:08:56 um runoff
02:08:58 that are being blocked and not
02:09:00 mainstream mainstream is pushing fear
02:09:02 it’s the alternate media that’s trying
02:09:04 to push journalism
02:09:07 but anyways it looks like Anne’s back
02:09:09 she she knows more about this than I do
02:09:12 all to take our mind off of what is
02:09:16 being declassed
02:09:18 so
02:09:20 I I missed some of your conversation I’m
02:09:22 sorry uh but you know what asymptomatic
02:09:26 is at this point okay
02:09:30 so
02:09:31 you you don’t know if you’re sick if
02:09:34 you’re asymptomatic
02:09:35 and if you’re shedding
02:09:39 that is literally your your
02:09:42 you’re spreading the virus and whatever
02:09:45 wherever you go and if you’re
02:09:49 asymptomatic you don’t know and you’re
02:09:51 regretting it to everybody and you know
02:09:55 um
02:09:56 so that’s your carrier that doesn’t have
02:09:58 the typical symptoms
02:10:01 right you don’t know that you have it
02:10:03 because you don’t have the symptoms you
02:10:05 know your body
02:10:07 handling it so well
02:10:09 that you’re just you’re not getting sick
02:10:13 you’re just
02:10:15 I mean it’s obviously reproducing in you
02:10:17 at some level but
02:10:20 if it’s you know it’s not
02:10:23 your body your immune system has decided
02:10:26 that you’re not being hurt by it so it
02:10:28 doesn’t ramp up all these reactions and
02:10:31 therefore you don’t get symptoms
02:10:33 you know
02:10:35 so because the symptoms is your body
02:10:37 doing things to get rich right of the
02:10:40 problem right it’s not affecting you to
02:10:42 the point where the body feels like it
02:10:44 needs to get rid of it right it doesn’t
02:10:47 go into like hyper reactive mode
02:10:51 um
02:10:52 because you know because if it doesn’t
02:10:54 register it as a danger
02:10:58 um
02:10:59 so you can
02:11:02 be
02:11:04 contagious for all different things
02:11:07 and
02:11:08 you never know it and a lot of people
02:11:12 you know get sick and don’t know it
02:11:16 because
02:11:18 they don’t give symptoms either
02:11:23 sure
02:11:26 um
02:11:29 [Music]
02:11:31 to the scripture
02:11:35 you know
02:11:37 so
02:11:39 the
02:11:41 thing that made it deadly
02:11:44 the
02:11:48 um
02:11:49 one sec
02:11:57 that’s bad diving
02:12:00 sorry no that’s fine we all have lives I
02:12:03 just need one sec and then I’ll be able
02:12:05 to like finish with my
02:12:07 idea okay
02:12:15 well hopefully she comes back soon it
02:12:18 looks like uh she’s taking care of it
02:12:22 I’m here for you
02:12:26 what what time is it for me or for you
02:12:31 what time would it be for me I have no
02:12:33 way
02:12:35 no way
02:12:35 for you it would be 9 45 because you’re
02:12:40 three no no no you’re 10 45 you’re two
02:12:44 hours behind me because I’m 12 45.
02:12:47 I think Ann is 9 45 because I I think
02:12:50 Anne’s and are you in Salt Lake area and
02:12:52 uh I’m in that mountain I’m in that time
02:12:55 zone okay you’re in the time zone I so
02:12:58 yeah
02:13:00 did you see your daughter do the peace
02:13:02 sign okay
02:13:04 so yeah we’re in three different time
02:13:07 zones I’m I’m 12 45
02:13:09 Breeze 10 45 and ends 9 45.
02:13:15 I will get revenge on you later
02:13:21 tell her she’s going on YouTube
02:13:25 you’re gonna be a YouTube star baby
02:13:27 right you’re gonna be a YouTuber
02:13:30 because this is going on YouTube yeah
02:13:34 she’s giving you ears
02:13:37 oh nasty soup
02:13:45 but oh
02:13:48 maybe you can participate with the next
02:13:50 one no thank you you are talking solely
02:13:52 politics and I don’t like that
02:13:58 it’s not politics it’s reduction geez
02:14:02 okay
02:14:05 of course politics is religion it’s
02:14:08 probably a mixture right now to be
02:14:10 honest
02:14:11 well I mean seriously politics is
02:14:14 religion you know religion is politics
02:14:17 it’s you know it’s basically how the
02:14:19 community conducts itself well I I think
02:14:22 uh politics and really
02:14:25 and religion somewhat control each other
02:14:27 in fact I I someone this is I believe
02:14:30 this and there’s uh uh rabbis that he
02:14:33 says also but when Moses was at the
02:14:36 court of pharaoh when he threw down the
02:14:38 one snake that was Yeshua but when the
02:14:43 pharaoh’s priests threw down two snakes
02:14:45 that was the state and the church
02:14:48 they work together
02:14:51 there you go see and then Yeshua the
02:14:54 snake ate up he ate Moses’s snake which
02:14:58 is Joshua ate two snakes from Pharaoh’s
02:15:02 false priests
02:15:03 the religion and the State but anyways
02:15:06 in the vernacular that I understand it
02:15:09 sounds like you’re saying spirituality
02:15:11 eight
02:15:12 particularism and religion
02:15:15 that would be one way to say it
02:15:19 I mean the second coming right he’s
02:15:22 going to overcome both
02:15:26 man that’s going to be an insane thing
02:15:29 well well I I so there’s
02:15:33 there’s yeshua’s teachings and then
02:15:35 there’s church and for the most part
02:15:38 churches are of men
02:15:40 yeah churches are the hedges
02:15:43 yeah
02:15:44 but anyways back to the virus in
02:15:47 Revelations 9 oh yes so
02:15:50 because of our
02:15:53 pre-existing conditions and the fact
02:15:55 that they did not allow for herd
02:15:57 immunity to develop
02:15:59 so do you I do you understand what herd
02:16:01 immunity theory is I understand the
02:16:04 basics of it
02:16:06 um I wouldn’t say I’m an expert on it
02:16:09 okay so the basic in a nutshell is this
02:16:11 a percentage of the population has been
02:16:15 exposed to a disease and has recovered
02:16:18 from it and therefore now has an
02:16:20 immunity of some sort
02:16:21 and so when the disease comes through
02:16:24 again uh it’s gonna basically stop out
02:16:29 the wall of the immunity
02:16:32 okay I think it’s uh related to how
02:16:38 um
02:16:39 that when we’re interacting with each
02:16:41 other each other socializing we’re
02:16:43 actually helping each other be healthy
02:16:45 because we’re sharing well I don’t know
02:16:48 the technical term but the touching
02:16:52 um we’re helping each other being
02:16:53 healthy
02:16:55 um and your daughter’s helping you be
02:16:56 happy yes she is
02:17:00 but yeah we do we do have a lot of
02:17:04 shared
02:17:06 you know I mean the the the immune
02:17:09 system
02:17:10 requires a certain level of stimulation
02:17:13 in order to stay healthy it’s like
02:17:16 putting so you know it’s like putting in
02:17:18 the proper gas in the tank
02:17:21 to keep the engine running
02:17:24 um but there’s things that you can do
02:17:28 to overclock the engine
02:17:32 and destroy it
02:17:35 um but not putting gas in it also is a
02:17:39 great way of destroying an engine you
02:17:41 know so
02:17:44 um
02:17:44 the
02:17:46 the fact is is that our environment is
02:17:49 infecting us with stuff all the time and
02:17:52 we in turn in fact other things of the
02:17:55 environment all the time
02:17:57 um
02:17:58 and
02:18:01 if you have a
02:18:04 an immunity to certain things
02:18:06 everybody’s not
02:18:09 you know where your your body is not
02:18:11 being destroyed by certain things
02:18:13 um
02:18:15 because it’s out of balance you know
02:18:17 um
02:18:18 the
02:18:20 the spread of that isn’t
02:18:23 as
02:18:25 over
02:18:27 it’s not over much it’s not so prevalent
02:18:30 because you’re so priority used to it
02:18:32 because I I think
02:18:34 um one of the the YouTube videos that
02:18:36 got uh taken down on YouTube was the
02:18:39 doctors in California and they talk
02:18:41 about
02:18:42 um this social distancing is going to
02:18:45 have a reverse reaction or a bad
02:18:48 reaction when we start socializing it
02:18:50 because people are going to get sick
02:18:52 um when we start socializing not because
02:18:54 necessarily the virus but just because
02:18:55 of the immune system went down which
02:18:58 goes along with what you’re saying so
02:19:01 one of the things that they found was
02:19:03 like they specifically it was like the
02:19:06 the flu vaccine
02:19:08 uh actually makes you more vulnerable to
02:19:12 covet 19.
02:19:14 and that’s why it was so big and
02:19:16 adorable so they just gave a new flu
02:19:19 vaccine yeah they just I know that they
02:19:22 recently
02:19:26 they’re trying to cause you to have a
02:19:32 whatever it’s called
02:19:35 a seizure
02:19:36 no they want you to die
02:19:40 Oh I thought they thought you were
02:19:42 talking about the flashing lights sorry
02:19:43 no I think that was your daughter my
02:19:47 daughter was one flashing the lights but
02:19:50 um
02:19:51 so they
02:19:53 they know that they flew you know the
02:19:57 flu vaccine uh for probably two
02:20:00 different reasons uh
02:20:02 makes it makes you more vulnerable it
02:20:05 makes it more deadly the the corona more
02:20:07 deadly and
02:20:10 um
02:20:13 they’re fast tracking the new
02:20:19 vaccine and they’re not taken care of
02:20:22 they’re not addressing
02:20:24 the comorbidities that already exist
02:20:28 and you take that the fact that we have
02:20:32 the comorbidities of autoimmune issues
02:20:35 already
02:20:36 you take the fact that they’re fast
02:20:39 tracking
02:20:40 a new technology that doesn’t
02:20:46 it doesn’t
02:20:47 it it changes a little bit in that now
02:20:51 that the new vaccine technology actually
02:20:54 hijacks
02:20:55 your
02:20:57 cell
02:20:58 to force it to create protein the the
02:21:02 acellular protein strands that they want
02:21:05 your body to develop the antigens
02:21:09 so
02:21:11 it’s they’re going to make you
02:21:14 actually get sick in the way of how
02:21:17 viruses do uh
02:21:20 so rather than putting a natural
02:21:22 Source big virus like on the the the pus
02:21:26 for example
02:21:27 they’re making the virus so to speak
02:21:31 well they’re making they make it so that
02:21:34 your body
02:21:36 it it’s going to attack cells in your
02:21:39 body hijack the DNA RNA
02:21:43 um
02:21:44 zip unzip sequences
02:21:47 and
02:21:49 force your body to create
02:21:52 parts of the protein of the virus
02:21:57 that the vaccine is intended to create
02:22:00 antigens for uh okay so they’re
02:22:03 basically they’re changing what
02:22:09 yeah they’re not just throwing in parts
02:22:12 of the virus and hope that your body
02:22:15 develops antigens for these things
02:22:17 they’re making your body create the
02:22:20 proteins it’s going to create the
02:22:22 antigens for sure I think I understand
02:22:25 what you’re saying now
02:22:28 and
02:22:30 I don’t know if if they include
02:22:33 a
02:22:36 an adjuvant with that
02:22:42 I mean the whole point of an adjuvant is
02:22:44 again to Turbo
02:22:47 kick your immune system
02:22:50 into
02:22:52 hyper vigilance
02:22:55 and it’s your immune system is in hyper
02:22:59 vigilance that you’re most likely
02:23:02 to
02:23:04 screw up and develop
02:23:07 something autoimmune related
02:23:14 so this is the Bill Gates project and Dr
02:23:18 Fox Chase
02:23:22 okay
02:23:26 so I hear that they have been removed
02:23:31 as of this morning I heard you know I’ve
02:23:36 heard rumors about how the uh fed is
02:23:40 supposed to have been well you know the
02:23:42 Federal Reserve is supposed to have been
02:23:44 shut down but I don’t think that’s going
02:23:45 to happen anytime soon yeah I I don’t
02:23:49 believe everything I hear on mainstream
02:23:51 or alternate news
02:23:53 um especially queue anyways
02:23:58 um
02:23:59 you’ve got to be careful what we hear no
02:24:01 matter what
02:24:02 I’ve heard about Q from a few of my
02:24:05 other friends but I’ve never seen them
02:24:08 or any of their broadcasts
02:24:11 oh I I’ve seen some some friends that
02:24:14 really push them but I I did a post
02:24:17 about them lately because they’re always
02:24:19 talking in this coded language and like
02:24:22 we’re going to do something
02:24:24 when I read the book of Mormon like in
02:24:27 human this is the post I did Nephi just
02:24:31 told him what the problem was and the
02:24:33 evidence and people went out and found
02:24:35 support of it but Q is not doing
02:24:38 anything like that Q is trying to make
02:24:40 Trump look good and there’s things
02:24:43 coming out more and more that showing
02:24:44 that Trump is part of the master plan
02:24:48 Simpsons
02:24:50 were you saying
02:24:53 okay when you said that
02:24:57 was only
02:24:59 only this
02:25:01 okay
02:25:03 what the Trump Administration has done
02:25:07 is worldwide
02:25:10 and and the evil towers that we are
02:25:14 fighting
02:25:15 the invisible powers
02:25:19 have been put
02:25:21 all throughout the world and so the
02:25:26 needs for the codes
02:25:28 is military language
02:25:32 things
02:25:35 [Music]
02:25:36 that have been in the works
02:25:41 I have seen where
02:25:45 um what was his name I can’t even think
02:25:49 now
02:25:53 he’s dead they executed him
02:25:59 when I’m talking about Epstein
02:26:03 uh starts with the c okay
02:26:08 okay
02:26:10 um
02:26:12 oh my goodness
02:26:16 I I can’t think of the name it’s like a
02:26:19 brain
02:26:20 freeze hair doesn’t open my mind Stephen
02:26:27 well you’re trying to think of that name
02:26:30 I I don’t see God working differently
02:26:33 with the small group of people and a big
02:26:36 group of people all through
02:26:39 the scriptures prophets call repentance
02:26:43 and said what was going on and people
02:26:45 hated them because they could call out
02:26:47 what was going on
02:26:49 I I don’t see that
02:26:52 being any different in today’s world
02:26:54 right in fact Q claims that I’ve seen
02:26:58 videos where they claim Q is
02:27:00 inter-dimensional
02:27:03 or stuff like that that that’s and
02:27:06 they’re claiming that Q can see the
02:27:08 future
02:27:22 I
02:27:24 think it’s someone that actually
02:27:25 believes in too and thinks that’s what’s
02:27:28 going on
02:27:30 um well that’s sad so I don’t know much
02:27:33 about Q really I mean I I’ve seen people
02:27:37 post about it and stuff but it’s like I
02:27:40 don’t get it uh I don’t get it either
02:27:48 and I can’t it’s kind of like the soap
02:27:50 operas
02:27:52 I could watch it one day and be good for
02:27:55 a whole month and then come in again and
02:27:58 say oh this is going to happen and
02:28:00 that’s going to happen what do you say
02:28:04 because this is great well you know
02:28:09 well the thing is if they’re seeing
02:28:11 prophecy they’re they’re not getting it
02:28:13 from God from the way that they’re
02:28:15 acting in my honest opinion and the only
02:28:17 other way for them to know is that
02:28:18 they’re part of the plan
02:28:20 insights in the master plan like
02:28:22 Simpsons or Hollywood that they’ve been
02:28:25 disclosing this stuff a little here and
02:28:27 there that’s the only way they can know
02:28:29 what’s going on is that they’re part of
02:28:31 the inside group because they’re not
02:28:33 getting it from God and if they’re
02:28:35 getting it from the inside group they’re
02:28:37 part of the inside group
02:28:40 well we will see no because without
02:28:44 what I do uh today
02:28:47 on Fox Business
02:28:52 um Trump has said to that reporter that
02:28:57 there will be a vaccine
02:29:00 that will be he is enabling immobilizing
02:29:06 the military yeah I read that that’s
02:29:10 actually in the news now
02:29:12 they don’t
02:29:14 they
02:29:18 yeah
02:29:19 well they in the article they weren’t
02:29:22 saying that they had the vaccine for
02:29:25 sure but they wanted they will
02:29:29 I have no doubt that something is going
02:29:32 to be and something I mean they already
02:29:34 have like what 30 ish vaccines in the
02:29:37 pipeline and they’re already human
02:29:40 trials for at least two of them
02:29:42 and
02:29:45 I don’t know I mean I mean what’s going
02:29:48 to make it so bad is that I you know if
02:29:52 they make it mandatory
02:29:55 like they said well yeah I I I’ve seen
02:29:59 someone who’s a big believer in used to
02:30:01 be a big believer in Q and he probably
02:30:03 is again but he sent me a post from Q or
02:30:07 someone else that says Trump’s going to
02:30:08 mandate vaccines which is not a good
02:30:11 thing
02:30:13 it’s against our constitution Al rights
02:30:18 says Trump is the good guy and if you
02:30:21 think vaccines are bad how could you
02:30:23 agree with that right now Trump’s going
02:30:24 to be
02:30:26 a mandating a vaccine where if I
02:30:29 remember correctly I didn’t vote for him
02:30:31 in fact I didn’t vote for anybody but
02:30:34 Trump and his
02:30:36 um uh campaign promises said no no
02:30:39 mandatory vaccines and here he is
02:30:41 nigging on it well I apologize he’s
02:30:45 already reneged on a few things yeah
02:30:48 yeah quite a few things but the thing is
02:30:51 is that we’ve already got mandatory
02:30:53 vaccines when you can’t send your kid to
02:30:57 school
02:31:00 I mean it was an exemption an exemption
02:31:02 is their excuse to put you on a list and
02:31:06 shame and to you know and berate you and
02:31:10 treat you like a second-class citizen I
02:31:12 mean I didn’t get my kid
02:31:14 um a Chickenpox vaccine
02:31:17 and when chickenpox came to the school
02:31:21 Shea was forced to miss wow 14 to 20
02:31:26 days of school because
02:31:29 you know
02:31:31 I mean you can’t tell me that they’re
02:31:33 not freaking mandatory when yeah already
02:31:40 they’re mandatory with some exceptions
02:31:42 to it like you’re saying well it’s like
02:31:45 this if you want to participate in
02:31:48 Social in the system in the fabric of
02:31:50 society like a normal person you have no
02:31:53 choice
02:31:54 right
02:31:56 well I hope there’s choice because I my
02:31:59 wife and I disagree on this but I I
02:32:01 don’t want that mind vaccinated I’m
02:32:05 gonna do that in as much as they have
02:32:09 options I mean if you don’t want to
02:32:11 participate in public school if you
02:32:13 don’t want to participate in going to
02:32:15 college if you don’t want to participate
02:32:17 in actually working in the medical field
02:32:20 and you’re not a doctor
02:32:24 I did some college
02:32:27 um at Salt Lake Community College I
02:32:29 don’t remember having to
02:32:31 um list my vaccines
02:32:33 that was like 20 years ago though so
02:32:36 just like
02:32:38 they have like so if you want to start
02:32:41 going to kindergarten if you want to
02:32:42 start going to seventh grade oh yeah
02:32:45 kindergarten through 12 there was
02:32:47 vaccines I remember that and I I know
02:32:49 with my mom and stuff and I remember
02:32:50 that I think it was a yellow piece of
02:32:52 paper but in college I don’t remember
02:32:54 having this family vaccines
02:32:58 there’s um these benchmarks kindergarten
02:33:01 uh seventh grade
02:33:04 um these two benchmarks are where you
02:33:06 either have to be up to date or
02:33:10 um with exemptions in order to be able
02:33:12 to participate at all with the the
02:33:16 schooling of that age group
02:33:19 now they started
02:33:21 uh asking
02:33:24 um people who were going to college to
02:33:26 have X you know be up to date with this
02:33:30 one and that one I think it’s like mumps
02:33:32 and uh MMR and there might be a few
02:33:36 others but and I don’t know how much it
02:33:39 is a requirement at this point but as
02:33:43 long as there’s brick and mortar and it
02:33:45 always starts with that hey won’t you
02:33:47 consider this oh yeah it always starts
02:33:49 by the way it’s required now and you
02:33:53 know I mean it’s it’s a slippery slope
02:33:55 oh I I completely agree that that
02:33:58 follows the pattern
02:33:59 um
02:34:02 I just when I did College 20 years ago
02:34:05 is I didn’t have to but so maybe this is
02:34:07 it sounds like it’s more of a recent
02:34:08 thing if more recent okay
02:34:13 hottest
02:34:15 anyways okay so can we go back to how
02:34:19 this is tying in
02:34:22 because I’m still so trying to win
02:34:26 this is what I’m thinking and I admit
02:34:29 this is just my Paradigm it’s not
02:34:33 necessarily truth or reality oh sure
02:34:36 this is a theory right you’re not
02:34:38 someone where the other yet
02:34:41 um they’ve been reporting the the
02:34:44 breadcrumbs of exemptions solely over
02:34:47 time especially in the more populated
02:34:49 areas New York California
02:34:52 you know in California they only have
02:34:54 the medical exemptions now and
02:34:58 um even then if a doctor a doctor
02:35:02 gives more than five exemptions in a
02:35:05 year they’re up for Board review they
02:35:08 can lose their license if they do more
02:35:09 than five exemptions
02:35:12 I’ve heard that they’re getting harder
02:35:14 to get in Utah
02:35:16 um I’m from Utah
02:35:18 they are yeah
02:35:21 for my first daughter
02:35:24 um to get some of the exemptions for her
02:35:26 all I had to do was go in and get dirty
02:35:30 looks and sign a piece of paper
02:35:33 now I have to take a test to prove that
02:35:38 I understand the propaganda that they’ve
02:35:39 been showing down my throat
02:35:42 and dirty looks and sign a paper
02:35:45 okay yeah that’s about what I’ve heard
02:35:48 that you have to take some classes now
02:35:52 um I I wonder how it’s going to be and
02:35:54 how it is in Missouri right now
02:35:57 um
02:35:58 because I’m planning to move there but
02:36:01 honestly I kind of look forward to this
02:36:04 whole removing all of the exemptions
02:36:06 because
02:36:08 it’s going to force the people
02:36:11 to look
02:36:14 either it’s mandatory
02:36:16 I have really or I have freedom you know
02:36:20 and it may help give them the little
02:36:23 jolt to think about what’s going on yeah
02:36:26 but it’s like
02:36:28 once they’ve been removing the
02:36:30 exemptions they haven’t removed the
02:36:34 um
02:36:35 the protection that the Pharma has you
02:36:40 know I mean you can’t sue them it’s
02:36:42 taxpayers who pay for any damages yeah
02:36:46 it is it’s not the companies the
02:36:47 companies are completely protected
02:36:49 absolutely they have no risk all they
02:36:52 have is profit
02:36:53 cold
02:36:55 so
02:36:56 you you know and then they’ve been
02:36:58 making it so that I mean when doctors
02:37:01 are refusing to see patients unless
02:37:03 they’re up to date
02:37:05 and
02:37:07 well you know
02:37:09 as long as they have I don’t know the
02:37:12 percentage maybe 90 or you may know more
02:37:15 of the percentage but doctors they get
02:37:17 bonuses from the pharmaceutical system
02:37:20 if a certain percentage of their
02:37:24 clientele are vaccinated right and
02:37:28 alternative motives right there
02:37:30 alternative motives are all over the
02:37:32 place in the medical well anytime you
02:37:34 tie money to it yeah
02:37:36 but it’s like you know the CDC people
02:37:40 who run the CDC also happen to have the
02:37:42 patents to vaccines
02:37:45 um when you have the removal of
02:37:47 exemptions when you can’t participate in
02:37:51 just normal societal fabric without all
02:37:56 this it’s
02:37:59 you know and then they’re talking about
02:38:03 you know they the Dayton and made so
02:38:06 much fear out of this coronavirus when
02:38:10 they finally do have a vaccine
02:38:12 I have no Pro I have no difficulty
02:38:15 seeing it as becoming mandatory you want
02:38:17 a job you need to have it you want to go
02:38:19 shopping you need to have it you want to
02:38:21 do anything you need to have
02:38:24 my husband already had to take certain
02:38:29 shots
02:38:30 for the job that he was doing he was
02:38:33 delivering hospice equipment
02:38:36 of course the the the medical Pharma you
02:38:40 have to have up-to-date stuff
02:38:43 so here you have you’ve had extreme
02:38:47 isolation and quarantine for the sick
02:38:49 and the healthy
02:38:51 and in the meantime they’ve been you
02:38:56 know creating this atmosphere where you
02:38:59 have to get this these autoimmune issues
02:39:04 just to be part of society
02:39:06 and covid being deadly to people who
02:39:10 have autoimmune disorder
02:39:17 right it’s just a matter of connecting a
02:39:19 b c d and there you go
02:39:22 I mean it’s going to be
02:39:26 I mean and when the vaccine comes out
02:39:28 and people are like getting it
02:39:33 if their immune system is kicked into
02:39:35 overdrive
02:39:37 there are there are there are some
02:39:39 vaccines
02:39:41 I I’m gonna have to
02:39:43 find sources I’m sorry
02:39:45 but there is
02:39:48 a phenomenon where if you get a vaccine
02:39:51 to something
02:39:53 your body has the opposite reaction and
02:39:58 makes you more vulnerable to that
02:40:01 disease
02:40:02 I I wouldn’t doubt that they’ve done
02:40:05 studies on people who children who have
02:40:08 received vaccines and those who haven’t
02:40:11 the ones that receive the vaccines are
02:40:13 more likely actually to get it than
02:40:15 those who had an emergency
02:40:18 and if I don’t know how how often that
02:40:22 affects the populace who has gotten
02:40:24 vaccinated
02:40:26 but for those who
02:40:30 get that weakening and their immune
02:40:34 system has been kicked into overdrive
02:40:35 and they get the disease
02:40:40 it is death
02:40:44 yeah um I can see that
02:40:48 is that how you’re tying it to so back
02:40:51 to tying it to Revelations 9.
02:40:54 so after the five months
02:40:57 of wanting death but no death
02:41:01 I believe
02:41:03 a third
02:41:04 up to a third of the population of man
02:41:08 dies
02:41:11 but they do not but the remainder do not
02:41:13 repent
02:41:18 uh I’d have to read the chapter this is
02:41:22 not a chapter that I have memorized
02:41:24 um
02:41:26 the third part of men uh Verse 18 it’s
02:41:30 just something that
02:41:33 15 is where the angels are loose
02:41:36 and for an hour a day and a month and a
02:41:41 year for the slave the third part of man
02:41:48 and then down below it continues to
02:41:53 verse 18. by these three was the third
02:41:57 part of man killed by fire by Smoke by
02:42:02 Brimstone which issued out of their
02:42:05 mouths
02:42:06 for the power is in their mouth
02:42:10 and in their tails
02:42:13 for their Tales were like unto serpent
02:42:18 and I looked up
02:42:20 scorpion
02:42:22 Kings recently and it is interesting how
02:42:26 scorpion stings the
02:42:30 effects of scorpion stings are very
02:42:32 similar to the symptoms of covid
02:42:37 interesting I have to look
02:42:39 um maybe you can send some links in the
02:42:41 group on that if you uh have some handy
02:42:46 um that because that that definitely
02:42:48 connects to this chapter Revelations
02:42:50 nine right
02:42:54 um
02:42:57 hindsight a little bit about my crazy
02:43:00 childhood okay one time I went camping
02:43:04 with my dad and I caught a scorpion and
02:43:08 took it home as a pet
02:43:10 oh no my mom wouldn’t let me keep it in
02:43:13 the house it had to be in the garage but
02:43:14 we I caught a scorpion but with the tail
02:43:18 with the steer
02:43:20 um and took it home for a pet
02:43:23 so it didn’t sting me though
02:43:26 [Music]
02:43:30 uh I I
02:43:32 [Music]
02:43:33 weren’t my son
02:43:38 I have done things but not that uh well
02:43:44 um
02:43:45 yeah
02:43:47 yeah well anyways
02:43:50 I’m not normal
02:43:55 um
02:43:56 I just don’t want to share that because
02:43:58 it goes along with the chapter right
02:44:08 so that’s the search line that I used
02:44:11 for
02:44:13 um the scorpion sting symptoms and it
02:44:17 will list in the Google
02:44:21 um
02:44:25 I’ll look at it later but I’ll add it to
02:44:27 the comments of the video when I upload
02:44:30 it so others can
02:44:32 uh get it because that that I find that
02:44:35 intriguing and that helps um at least
02:44:38 for me connect more Dodge so that’s
02:44:40 something I’ll look into
02:44:42 later because that’s interesting and I
02:44:45 think that’s an important point
02:44:52 where it says it says the rest of the
02:44:54 man would
02:44:56 which were not killed by these plagues
02:45:00 yet repented not what of the works of
02:45:05 their
02:45:06 hands that they should not worship
02:45:09 devils and Idols of gold and silver and
02:45:14 brass and stone and of wood which
02:45:17 neither can see nor hear nor walk
02:45:20 neither repentant Bay of their murders
02:45:26 nor of their sorceries
02:45:29 nor at their fornication or other staff
02:45:33 and Pharma is witchcraft oh completely
02:45:38 you just go look at the the the the
02:45:41 Greek and the Hebrew word for that it’s
02:45:44 it’s witchcraft yeah I don’t know if
02:45:47 you’ve ever heard of Trey Smith
02:45:52 okay
02:45:55 yeah I was just watching his pan
02:45:59 pandemic
02:46:00 wow that’s interesting how you said pan
02:46:04 because pan Satan
02:46:08 well he was making he was making some
02:46:11 interesting
02:46:13 um connection
02:46:16 um it’s probably worth a view even if
02:46:19 you don’t necessarily agree with it or
02:46:21 if it makes sense at the time well
02:46:24 take a look at because I I watched a lot
02:46:27 while I’m working
02:46:29 um so I mean I shouldn’t say watch I
02:46:31 shouldn’t say listen to things while
02:46:34 working
02:46:36 um so if you get a link share it with me
02:46:37 and I’ll take a listen so there’s one
02:46:40 more thing that I just wanted to share
02:46:43 that’s kind of freaking weird
02:46:46 um
02:46:47 so here’s my opinion that
02:46:51 um
02:46:54 hey it’s almost
02:46:56 like a cult
02:46:58 uh
02:47:00 there’s a there’s a particular
02:47:02 fanaticism surrounding the culture of
02:47:06 vaccines and
02:47:09 the interesting thing about vaccine is
02:47:12 as actually is from the root word
02:47:14 meaning cow or cattle
02:47:18 and
02:47:21 what were the
02:47:24 Israelites punished for
02:47:27 worshiping
02:47:29 uh the cow
02:47:32 well I mean
02:47:34 there’s a little more to it but that’s
02:47:36 what there’s definitely what’s good but
02:47:39 um it was a cow made of it was a calf
02:47:43 made of gold yeah yeah and vaccines are
02:47:48 certainly a
02:47:50 Money Maker shall we say yeah yeah that
02:47:53 would be the gold
02:47:54 it’s all interesting that the vaccines
02:47:57 is related to cow because I wouldn’t tie
02:47:59 it to that oh some more
02:48:02 um but I I think the biggest issue with
02:48:05 that is the false worship that they did
02:48:08 to
02:48:10 um worship yahshua because when you look
02:48:12 at the the Hebrew of that they did it to
02:48:16 um
02:48:17 worship Elohim and sometimes Elohim is
02:48:21 uh translated as a single God and
02:48:24 sometimes multiple gods because it’s
02:48:26 it’s a majestic plural which is
02:48:29 confusing especially in today’s world
02:48:31 where we don’t have mysticistic Pearl
02:48:33 but they did it to worship
02:48:36 Yeshua in a way that they were told not
02:48:40 to
02:48:41 well you know the whole concept of
02:48:43 Elohim being singular and plural at the
02:48:46 same time it’s kind of like our very
02:48:48 existence because while we like to think
02:48:51 of ourselves as being individual the
02:48:53 truth of the matter is is that we are
02:48:56 a organization of
02:49:00 smaller individuals we’re a community
02:49:03 we’re we’re individuals part of the
02:49:06 community yeah I mean we’re we’re
02:49:08 basically I mean if if we’re part of God
02:49:13 and we’re you know our whole is the
02:49:18 greater than the sum of our parts
02:49:21 you know I mean
02:49:24 I do believe that we’re individuals but
02:49:27 for sure definitely affected by the
02:49:30 whole for sure
02:49:31 um if you want there’s a video I just
02:49:34 put put in the chat that I like that
02:49:36 talks about the Majestic plural or
02:49:38 Elohim and it was even applied to
02:49:40 individual men in the Old Testament
02:49:44 um
02:49:46 it’s a majestic plural is an old
02:49:51 uh grammar technique that’s not used
02:49:53 anymore
02:49:54 um
02:49:55 and so people have forgotten about it
02:49:58 but anyways uh Bree did I see that you
02:50:01 wanted to say something or did I say
02:50:03 that wrong
02:50:05 um I’m being very minded of an Abraham
02:50:09 for that here
02:50:14 it talks
02:50:16 it’s about the plurality of God
02:50:22 okay
02:50:27 which we don’t talk about
02:50:31 sure
02:50:33 right but in chapter
02:50:36 four
02:50:38 it is definitely with the S
02:50:41 yeah one of the if you don’t mind me
02:50:44 adding to that one of the things that
02:50:46 always kind of didn’t sit well with me
02:50:50 was
02:50:51 when no I I still don’t know necessarily
02:50:55 what the nature of the Trinity is
02:50:59 um but
02:51:01 rather than simply letting the scripture
02:51:04 speak for themselves one of the things
02:51:06 that always drove me nuts was when they
02:51:08 Seminary the Mormon Seminary teachers
02:51:11 would add in-purpose parentheses
02:51:15 um because they could not
02:51:18 they would not allow the scripture to
02:51:21 simply speak for itself
02:51:23 they had to Overlay their own traditions
02:51:26 and doctrines over it and it
02:51:30 I mean talk about muddying the waters
02:51:33 that are already muddy you know it’s
02:51:36 like don’t do that
02:51:38 yeah
02:51:40 well
02:51:42 this is the thing
02:51:44 Steve and I were usually base everything
02:51:47 through the Book of Mormon we not only I
02:51:51 will bet that is my focus
02:51:55 um that’s our main main
02:51:57 source that we go it’s clear but I think
02:52:01 on this there’s uh yes there was
02:52:03 intercessory prayer we could look at
02:52:06 um in the New Testament
02:52:09 but you you continue Bree sorry
02:52:14 you broke out hun oh I was saying in in
02:52:18 something like this I I think a good
02:52:20 example to talk about is uh the
02:52:23 intercessory prayer in the New Testament
02:52:27 okay
02:52:29 um I think it’s John 17 but I constantly
02:52:33 John 17 okay I think I I am yes
02:52:39 in my journey
02:52:42 of discovering
02:52:44 what is the car that traditions of man
02:52:51 and what is truth
02:52:55 um all through the rest of the
02:52:59 scriptures it’s singular
02:53:01 but then we go to the pearl of great
02:53:04 price
02:53:07 in the book of Abraham and we find
02:53:12 plurality
02:53:16 so I know that Brigham Young taught a
02:53:20 virality
02:53:25 for
02:53:26 about Jeff’s snap so much so
02:53:34 um if you read
02:53:36 uh Genesis
02:53:40 Genesis actually
02:53:43 um gives itself to
02:53:46 flipping between singular and plural in
02:53:49 reference to God
02:53:51 until
02:53:52 the point of the flood
02:53:55 [Music]
02:53:57 I thought it was the end of creation
02:53:59 actually but we’d have to double check
02:54:02 and I I if it’s if it’s to the creation
02:54:06 I have a a belief that would go along
02:54:10 with that but if it’s to the flood I’d
02:54:12 have to really think about it
02:54:15 um I believe it’s to the flood but
02:54:18 um
02:54:21 it’s one of those I’m gonna have to read
02:54:24 it again and of course it always depends
02:54:26 on
02:54:27 what translation you’re looking at too
02:54:30 uh that’s true because some translations
02:54:33 are better than others for sure
02:54:36 um
02:54:38 Bible Hub is nice to look at one verse
02:54:42 because it shows it with tons of
02:54:44 translations oh yeah but it’s not very
02:54:47 useful for reading through because it
02:54:50 only shows a through a few verses
02:54:54 the the Genesis 6
02:54:58 and 5. it’s still saying
02:55:02 uh well she was saying it flips back and
02:55:05 forth so
02:55:07 um if that’s true one instance doesn’t
02:55:09 really prove one or the other but
02:55:11 um I I’m inclined to think it’s a plural
02:55:14 through the creation and then after that
02:55:16 because I
02:55:19 so I I believe Yeshua
02:55:22 is our God
02:55:24 period
02:55:26 um but I also believe that he has a god
02:55:33 and part of the reason I think it would
02:55:34 be plurality portion ends in
02:55:38 um Genesis or the creation is because
02:55:42 that’s one Yeshua took over everything
02:55:47 um at that point and that’s why we’re
02:55:49 only dealing
02:55:50 with him or through him
02:55:53 um
02:55:54 because in the New Testament he talks
02:55:56 about your God and my God or my father
02:56:00 and your father he makes these
02:56:02 distinctions between the two because
02:56:06 honestly I believe they’re different
02:56:09 my God is Joshua or Yahweh in the Old
02:56:13 Testament terms but he has the god in
02:56:18 fact I think
02:56:19 um the third Nephi when the the 12
02:56:22 disciples prayed to to Jesus makes that
02:56:27 clear because they’re not just praying
02:56:29 to some random person they’re praying to
02:56:31 God they’re just using his mortal name
02:56:34 at that point to pray to him it’s the
02:56:37 same person but anyways
02:56:41 um what I’ve noticed
02:56:43 in mind the uh
02:56:48 it is all singular
02:56:50 okay but I’ve written to the side Joseph
02:56:54 Smith’s translation
02:56:57 as the s
02:57:01 at what point in in the Genesis 6
02:57:04 nope
02:57:07 okay
02:57:08 um
02:57:12 this is one is
02:57:16 uh
02:57:18 and the verse 6
02:57:21 it says and the God and God said
02:57:28 let us make man in our image after our
02:57:33 life next let them have dominion over to
02:57:37 see over the sound of the air over the
02:57:39 cattle over all the Earth over every
02:57:42 creepy thing that creepeth upon the
02:57:44 Earth so God created man in his own
02:57:49 image in the image of God created he him
02:57:54 male and female created them and God
02:57:58 blessed them now to the side I have C
02:58:03 Joseph Smith’s translation inspired
02:58:06 version see below and
02:58:10 definitely
02:58:13 it will be God’s
02:58:17 but well and if that’s and that’s in the
02:58:23 integration portion I I personally don’t
02:58:25 see an issue with that because like
02:58:29 Jesus said he got everything he got from
02:58:33 his father
02:58:34 I’m sure his father was helping him
02:58:36 during that time and I’ve I’ve seen
02:58:41 Masonic Jews teach the same thing
02:58:44 um and I I know people love to rag on
02:58:49 the LDS church or the rest of new
02:58:51 restitutionists those who believe in the
02:58:53 restitution or restoration sorry
02:58:57 um on that but we’re not the only ones
02:58:59 that believe
02:59:01 that Yeshua had a father or a God
02:59:04 himself
02:59:06 um we’re just the ones that get the most
02:59:08 heat for in the Christian world
02:59:16 um because I I see it in in the creation
02:59:18 part but and I I believe it’s also in
02:59:22 Revelations in other places in the New
02:59:24 Testament if you read it closely and
02:59:26 carefully in my opinion
02:59:29 well I think it’s more thanks to Joseph
02:59:33 Smith’s translation what he has well I I
02:59:38 that that’s definitely helped for us but
02:59:41 the Masonic Messianic Jews don’t believe
02:59:44 in that
02:59:47 well I think it makes it more clear for
02:59:50 sure
02:59:51 yeah Satan knows the truth and he’s just
02:59:55 um changed things oh yeah I I’m just
02:59:58 saying I think
03:00:00 I think the jst helps us see truth more
03:00:04 easily but what I’m saying there are
03:00:06 some that believe this truth also
03:00:08 without the jst
03:00:15 I
03:00:17 it would not be surprised
03:00:19 if it was
03:00:22 it was probably my
03:00:29 my own doing here
03:00:35 yeah there were times where
03:00:38 God would foreign
03:00:42 this way and then God would be that way
03:00:45 and
03:00:48 um
03:00:50 the only way you know knowing that in
03:00:55 some cases the uh plural
03:00:59 reduced to singular for the sake of
03:01:02 amane for a monotheistic worldview
03:01:08 um
03:01:09 it was simply an extension of assumption
03:01:12 that instead of having a schizophrenic
03:01:15 God
03:01:16 or a God that couldn’t make up his mind
03:01:19 it must have been two or more people
03:01:23 uh okay yeah I I know
03:01:29 I know there’s a common idea in the
03:01:32 Christian world the the god of the Old
03:01:35 Testament is angry and mad and mean and
03:01:39 vengeful but the god of the New
03:01:40 Testament is not and I don’t agree with
03:01:43 I’m just telling you what people say oh
03:01:46 I know I know I I hear it myself I’ve
03:01:49 heard it in the LDS church growing up
03:01:51 too General Christian world I mean
03:01:54 there’s plenty of examples of God being
03:01:57 merciful and loving and forgiving even
03:02:00 in the Old Testament but yeah there is
03:02:04 such a there is an appearance
03:02:09 in the Old Testament most strikingly
03:02:12 of a god of two minds shall we say uh I
03:02:18 I think in societies like that if you
03:02:21 don’t study enough yeah but if you’re
03:02:24 more studied
03:02:25 I mean I I don’t I wouldn’t say that but
03:02:28 in the general public I would agree with
03:02:30 that statement but I think the general
03:02:32 public doesn’t really study
03:02:34 the scriptures they they go off of what
03:02:37 their preacher says or what they saw on
03:02:39 Facebook someone saying that appease
03:02:42 their way of world view they don’t
03:02:46 really go and see what the word says
03:02:48 itself or if they do they just look at
03:02:50 one verse take it out of context and
03:02:53 don’t look at all the other verses that
03:02:55 apply to it and show the other aspects
03:02:58 of God too because God is uh
03:03:01 a God of Justice
03:03:03 and he is a god of Mercy he’s both all
03:03:07 all the time
03:03:08 all the time not just Old Testament New
03:03:10 Testament picking one or the other he’s
03:03:13 both in both places and in the Book of
03:03:15 Mormon too
03:03:17 even in the in the doctrine covenants
03:03:20 he’s condemned people in the Doctrine
03:03:22 and Covenants including the church I
03:03:25 mean I don’t know about you but I think
03:03:26 we’re still under the condemnation for
03:03:28 not remembering the renewed Covenant
03:03:31 that’s found in the Book of Mormon I I
03:03:33 don’t know any Prophet or any anyone who
03:03:36 claims to be a prophet that lifted that
03:03:38 one
03:03:44 so I’m gonna have
03:03:46 I’m gonna have to talk with you more on
03:03:48 that one because I that’s something that
03:03:51 I mean I’ve heard about that but I
03:03:54 it’s a I heard about it what is it you
03:03:58 know that’s basically where I am on that
03:04:00 level of knowledge okay
03:04:03 um um I think it’s DBC 84
03:04:08 um I can get you the exact reference
03:04:09 later if you want but yeah Benson has a
03:04:12 talk that’s somewhat famous in the LDS
03:04:15 world of how he he reiterated
03:04:18 the condemnation for not remembering
03:04:23 father
03:04:24 insists that I think it was Benson
03:04:29 I’m gonna have to ask him for sure but
03:04:32 one of the presidents of the church was
03:04:36 supposed to have called a
03:04:39 news
03:04:41 conference type of thing
03:04:43 uh and announced that the day of the
03:04:46 lamanite was here and that was that
03:04:52 well
03:04:54 I
03:04:56 that sounds fishy to me
03:04:59 um I don’t know of a phrase of the day
03:05:01 of the limonites I I do know some things
03:05:04 that could correlate with that but that
03:05:07 phrase specifically I I don’t know
03:05:11 anywhere in the scriptures that way
03:05:13 but when the uh when the days of the
03:05:20 um the fullness of the Gentiles is past
03:05:24 The Book of Mormon tells us that the
03:05:26 lamanites are going to go destroy the
03:05:28 Gentiles who have not repented in the
03:05:30 United States and so
03:05:32 uh considering that hasn’t happened yet
03:05:37 um I would say whoever said that was
03:05:39 wrong
03:05:41 um because that hasn’t happened
03:05:42 because in the Book of Mormon it does
03:05:45 talk about how the lamanites are going
03:05:47 to war like a lion and go out destroying
03:05:51 um one place is 35 16.
03:05:55 that will be among you sure there’s a
03:05:58 couple places that talks about it I
03:06:00 believe but definitely fine
03:06:03 yeah and
03:06:06 a second and but going back to Anne what
03:06:09 she says her brother what her brother
03:06:12 father heard father oh Father oh sorry
03:06:16 uh I would disagree with that well
03:06:20 I would disagree that it’s true they may
03:06:23 have done it but they’re wrong because
03:06:28 I mean the thing is is I I haven’t been
03:06:30 able you know me and my Google searches
03:06:33 haven’t been able to find anything
03:06:36 um
03:06:38 I think this leads into a subject that
03:06:41 we left off last week the mighty one and
03:06:45 the reason I say that is because I
03:06:47 believe second Peter 3 says that the
03:06:51 mighty one is going to be of Manassa and
03:06:54 of the lineage of Jacob bar Lehigh
03:06:58 personally
03:07:00 um and if the lamanites are due what the
03:07:04 book of Morse says they’re going to do
03:07:06 which could be part of the day of the
03:07:08 lamanite though I’m not familiar with
03:07:10 that term
03:07:12 it would tell me it’s the mighty one and
03:07:16 that hasn’t happened yet
03:07:21 that if you want I have a
03:07:26 so second Nephi 3 is a big chiism
03:07:31 um and I have a post on that that brings
03:07:35 out that the chiasm in it
03:07:39 um
03:07:39 but near the bottom of that chapter is
03:07:43 where I would argue that it says that
03:07:48 them
03:07:49 my E1 is
03:07:51 um the linen of Jacob Farley High which
03:07:54 is a Manasseh
03:07:57 um and we I can go get that I don’t
03:08:00 remember the verse number but it’s near
03:08:02 the bottom we can look at it if you want
03:08:08 um one second
03:08:09 sure
03:08:28 so this is not necessarily what I
03:08:31 thought I was talking about but this is
03:08:33 this is close to what I
03:08:38 um
03:08:39 let me link it just here
03:08:41 sure
03:08:42 so the verses I’m talking about what I
03:08:44 was thinking about the the lineage is
03:08:46 second Nephi chapter 3 versions 23
03:08:49 through 24 but we can focus on what you
03:08:53 were bringing up
03:08:56 suppose supposedly it was from a general
03:08:58 conference talk in 1960.
03:09:03 okay
03:09:06 um we’ll have to you want to read part
03:09:08 of it that you were
03:09:11 thinking of
03:09:18 um
03:09:19 specifically it was more like the day of
03:09:22 the Limonite
03:09:23 is the day of the lamanites is nigh
03:09:26 oh nice so near
03:09:32 uh I could go with that I
03:09:37 so
03:09:39 near when you in the scriptures or or
03:09:43 close or words related to that it’d be
03:09:46 400 years from now yeah or a thousand is
03:09:50 like uh
03:09:53 I I think it’s more just to put on the
03:09:56 emphasis
03:09:57 prepare because really we need to
03:10:00 prepare and be ready even if it’s not
03:10:02 interested but and you know honestly it
03:10:05 is kind of true in that
03:10:07 um
03:10:08 so they
03:10:13 ethnic groups there there has exact
03:10:16 there has actually been since about the
03:10:18 1960s
03:10:19 shifts in the demographics and
03:10:24 whereas the the black population has
03:10:28 been going down
03:10:31 um and the European uh descended
03:10:35 population has been going down
03:10:37 the people who are of
03:10:40 um
03:10:41 indigenous North and South American
03:10:44 descent
03:10:45 that population is actually growing
03:10:47 rapidly
03:10:49 um they’re going to be hitting almost 50
03:10:52 percent probably in the next 10 years
03:10:55 [Music]
03:10:56 yeah
03:10:57 uh
03:11:00 [Music]
03:11:02 they’re not the land of nights as we had
03:11:04 been told by the elves all this time uh
03:11:08 South America no but North America yes
03:11:12 um like North America as in the United
03:11:14 States Heartland
03:11:16 because
03:11:17 um some of the lamanites are actually in
03:11:19 Utah because the government forced them
03:11:22 out of the Heartland into the world
03:11:25 oh
03:11:26 so
03:11:28 I know that there is
03:11:30 two schools of thought generally
03:11:33 speaking about
03:11:35 um the lands of Nephi why the land of
03:11:37 Nephi are and the two schools of thought
03:11:41 are it’s either in the New York area
03:11:45 or it’s in the Peruvian area
03:11:49 um
03:11:51 I don’t know there’s there is
03:11:55 archaeological evidence and there are
03:11:59 um
03:12:00 cultural
03:12:02 traditional extra biblical or actually
03:12:06 extra scriptural references that could
03:12:10 point to either
03:12:13 I don’t know for sure uh I’ll have to
03:12:15 disagree with you there in fact I so a
03:12:19 little review of the Heartland because
03:12:21 when you say just New York I don’t think
03:12:23 you’re real familiar with the Heartland
03:12:26 or the Heartland theory
03:12:28 is
03:12:30 the Eastern east of the Mississippi
03:12:34 all the way to the coast from Florida up
03:12:38 to the great lakes and and a little west
03:12:41 of the Mississippi not a lot but some
03:12:44 west of the Mississippi
03:12:46 are you talking about the
03:12:49 um
03:12:50 Eastern Midwestern area that has a lot
03:12:54 of the uh haplo
03:12:57 um there’s like a lot there is a lot of
03:13:02 forgot what the name of it’s like
03:13:06 um
03:13:06 no the hap so in genetic
03:13:10 testing
03:13:12 uh they I think it’s called haplo 2X or
03:13:15 how oh yeah yeah so
03:13:17 that deals with it and that
03:13:21 geographical area the people the
03:13:24 indigenous people of that area
03:13:27 you have the second highest
03:13:30 uh
03:13:32 Expressions per capita of that that
03:13:35 haplo uh genetic genes that are
03:13:40 associated with the Jews or Israel right
03:13:43 right right right
03:13:44 um
03:13:48 that they did on the DNA
03:13:52 where are you getting this information
03:13:57 there’s multiple sources firm um talks
03:14:01 about it there are scientists that talk
03:14:03 about their I think there’s there’s also
03:14:06 um Indian tribes that uh do it I think
03:14:09 Apache comes to mind but don’t quote me
03:14:12 on that but they’re I have multiple
03:14:15 articles along those that DNA stuff on
03:14:19 my Book of Mormon geography Resource
03:14:21 page free I can share with you that get
03:14:24 into some of that
03:14:26 um but firm has
03:14:28 um Rod Meldrum has done I think an hour
03:14:32 or two hour video just on that subject
03:14:35 alone talking about that and even
03:14:38 getting the point now
03:14:40 huh has he done anything Wayne May
03:14:44 when uh Wayne I don’t think women on the
03:14:48 DNA when is the a big figure in the
03:14:52 Heartland Hopeland Theory which I I
03:14:54 believe
03:14:56 and he he’s yeah
03:14:58 but he he’s from Florida to to the Great
03:15:02 Lakes to Mississippi to the coast right
03:15:05 like I am um so I I I like a lot of the
03:15:09 things that he’s does and I I’ve emailed
03:15:12 them in fact Bree I’ve emailed him about
03:15:15 the things that the Nephites do with the
03:15:17 Moon
03:15:19 because you know lunar Sabbath and the
03:15:22 new moon but anyways it didn’t go
03:15:25 anywhere
03:15:27 uh he referred me to another supposed
03:15:30 expert that um was not an expert
03:15:34 um but anyways that’s another subject I
03:15:36 can show you the email change if you
03:15:39 guys want to look at them
03:15:41 um he’s not so much an expert in my
03:15:43 opinion
03:15:45 um
03:15:46 he basically said Read My article and
03:15:49 then I’ll help you some more and I did
03:15:50 that and he never answered any of my
03:15:52 questions that I did specifically why I
03:15:56 started the email chain nor the
03:15:57 questions that I bought about his
03:15:58 article
03:16:00 um I just got ignored
03:16:03 yeah it’s interesting how people just
03:16:08 crazy it’s almost like it’s a blind spot
03:16:11 it’s like they cannot see they can’t see
03:16:14 that subject as a specific
03:16:18 subject that you you want references to
03:16:21 or you want to talk about or learn about
03:16:22 and it can be so frustrating well I
03:16:26 think a lot of them
03:16:29 out there from
03:16:31 that oh so they want to be considered an
03:16:35 expert and when you can respond to their
03:16:38 theories intelligently you’re no longer
03:16:40 a pupil you’re a peer and they don’t
03:16:43 know how to do with peers they only know
03:16:45 how to do it
03:16:49 if that makes sense but anyways
03:16:52 um well you know what pairs are right
03:16:54 they’re just people yeah
03:16:56 okay
03:16:59 say that one more time
03:17:01 appeared
03:17:03 are only there to agree with you
03:17:06 that’s a pupil isn’t it because a pupil
03:17:08 is a student no the pupil learns the
03:17:12 property and then once they learn it
03:17:14 because they agree with you yeah they’re
03:17:17 they’re your peer uh okay I see what
03:17:19 you’re saying they don’t yeah okay they
03:17:22 don’t want someone that can talk
03:17:24 intelligently who uh disagrees with
03:17:26 their theories right I guess that’s not
03:17:29 appear your competition you’re either
03:17:31 okay yeah I can see that sure sure
03:17:35 um like the the BYU scholars in may say
03:17:39 America anyway well again it’s it’s one
03:17:42 of those things that when you add money
03:17:44 to it when you put a lively when you
03:17:46 attach a livelihood to
03:17:49 something
03:17:51 you know it becomes
03:17:54 I mean you have to defend it when you
03:17:56 rely upon income from it to support you
03:17:59 you have to yeah it’s true or not it’s
03:18:03 the flexing cord
03:18:04 yeah yeah
03:18:05 it’s nice and comfortable but it’s like
03:18:08 man you can’t you know you can’t fight
03:18:12 it or it tightens it controls you Larson
03:18:20 what about about Anthony
03:18:26 people that fought him he he just
03:18:29 couldn’t deal with
03:18:31 it yeah I I so regarding Anthony Larson
03:18:35 I I like the general theory that he
03:18:38 taught I disagree at times and so we had
03:18:43 fights
03:18:45 um
03:18:46 on various points and I have a post
03:18:49 about our relationship
03:18:52 um because some things that came up
03:18:55 um but on the general theory he promotes
03:18:57 I agree
03:18:58 specifics I disagree on and some of the
03:19:02 other things I disagree with him on and
03:19:04 that because of that I got removed from
03:19:07 his group because I could disagree
03:19:09 intelligently because I knew what I was
03:19:11 talking about
03:19:13 um but anyways
03:19:16 um
03:19:17 but back to the heart
03:19:20 one thing in my waking up process that
03:19:23 became important to me and I converted
03:19:26 to are the high holidays
03:19:29 um
03:19:30 basically the seven holidays in the
03:19:33 Leviticus 23 that were commanded to
03:19:36 always keep
03:19:39 um but he said chapter 23 yeah it’s
03:19:43 Leviticus 23
03:19:46 um it also talks about the Sabbath but
03:19:50 um which I also believe is an appointed
03:19:52 day
03:19:54 um but mostly people refer to Leviticus
03:19:57 23 for the other seven holidays and not
03:20:01 the Sabbath
03:20:03 and there’s no
03:20:06 doubt in anybody’s mind that everything
03:20:08 other than the Sabbath that’s in that
03:20:10 chapter is tied to the lunar phases
03:20:15 there’s only very few including me that
03:20:19 believe the Sabbath is also tied to them
03:20:22 but that’s neither here or there but
03:20:25 when I’m getting point to is the things
03:20:28 that are needed to keep those High
03:20:30 holidays
03:20:32 are found in the Heartland they’re not
03:20:35 found in Mesa America
03:20:37 also the other things to keep other
03:20:39 parts of the law of Moses which The Book
03:20:42 of Mormon says they strictly kept and
03:20:45 not modified as the mesoamerica model
03:20:48 claims that they did because the law of
03:20:51 Moses has no room for changing it period
03:20:54 in the Book of Mormon states that they
03:20:56 strictly kept it
03:20:59 the things that are needed for that are
03:21:01 found in Heartland in the United States
03:21:03 is not found in mesoamerica
03:21:06 I was led to
03:21:10 understand that uh so first off the the
03:21:16 lamanites
03:21:17 uh outnumbered
03:21:20 the Nephi population by a vast margin
03:21:24 and I wouldn’t be surprised either way
03:21:28 there are
03:21:31 um
03:21:31 splinters multiple splinters of maybe
03:21:36 night culture
03:21:37 and there were some
03:21:39 lamanite cultures who were completely
03:21:43 ignorant
03:21:45 of the traditions of their fathers
03:21:49 uh depending on which fathers
03:21:51 um
03:21:52 we’re talking like Lehigh fathers for
03:21:55 sure okay but I mean because depending
03:21:58 on you want to use fathers it could be
03:21:59 the
03:22:01 quote unquote the Pharisees and the
03:22:02 Sadducees from Jerusalem because Layman
03:22:06 Millennial I would say kept a lot of
03:22:07 those false Traditions going but I I
03:22:10 would agree with that so I do think
03:22:12 that some luminates and possibly even
03:22:15 Nephites left the Heartland area in fact
03:22:18 the Book of Mormon talks about one who
03:22:20 did a ship twice I forget the name or
03:22:23 where
03:22:24 um but it does talk about how a guy
03:22:26 built the ship left the area he came
03:22:28 back that’s more whether that’s right
03:22:33 uh
03:22:35 mulekites came to the
03:22:38 um Heartland or wherever the Book of
03:22:39 Mormon took place later
03:22:42 and I I think there there’s the
03:22:45 jaredites
03:22:48 they came like
03:22:50 thousand thousand or two thousand years
03:22:52 before the Nephites and then the
03:22:54 mulekites
03:22:56 and the knee the Lehigh head family
03:23:02 supposedly came within oh they came
03:23:05 about the same time it was roughly the
03:23:07 same time yeah right
03:23:10 um
03:23:11 well I I’m talking about later in the
03:23:13 like maybe it’s an alma where a guy
03:23:15 built a boat and left
03:23:20 oh I guess I think that’s it
03:23:23 yeah um but then he left he built a boat
03:23:26 he left and then he came back got
03:23:28 another group he left and he never came
03:23:30 back
03:23:31 um we don’t know where they are right
03:23:34 they went North oh was it North okay so
03:23:38 that that destroys my theory about the
03:23:40 mesoamerica I don’t know that those
03:23:43 passages very well
03:23:46 um but I do think there’s evidence that
03:23:49 they didn’t just stay in Heartland I
03:23:51 think some ventured out into other
03:23:54 places right
03:23:57 um I was just you know under the
03:24:00 impression that
03:24:01 so I know that the mulekites eventually
03:24:04 kind of merged with the Nephites and
03:24:06 that the Nephites had actually
03:24:07 originally broken up well the lamanite
03:24:10 no the Nephites broke out from the
03:24:12 lamanites because of you know not
03:24:14 wanting to have their name if I killed
03:24:16 and stuff well yeah because God told him
03:24:18 uh Layman and Lemuel was going to kill
03:24:19 Nephi and right
03:24:22 I mean there’s
03:24:24 there’s the that story about how Ammon
03:24:28 you know uh had to teach a whole group
03:24:33 of lamanites
03:24:36 um the proper traditions because they
03:24:39 they were completely ignorant right sure
03:24:42 Alma 17 through 20.
03:24:45 um I wouldn’t say that they were
03:24:46 completely ignorant but I would say they
03:24:49 fell into many much error
03:24:52 um
03:24:53 because I think there’s some things that
03:24:55 they did that were based on some things
03:24:57 but they weren’t doing things correctly
03:24:59 for sure I mean like they were taught to
03:25:03 believe in the great spirit and things
03:25:06 like that you know and that’s certainly
03:25:08 not anything about the part of you know
03:25:10 that has nothing to do with the law
03:25:13 well
03:25:14 um
03:25:15 great spirit I don’t think really it’s
03:25:18 two or not to the law of Moses but the
03:25:20 great spirit as Evan brings it that’s
03:25:23 that’s that’s gone more North America
03:25:25 but
03:25:27 um but also I mean uh the brother Jared
03:25:31 shows us before Yeshua came to get his
03:25:34 mortal Ministry and got a physical body
03:25:36 he was experienced awesome and so right
03:25:39 there’s some truth to the great spirit
03:25:42 tradition that they had
03:25:45 because Yeshua was a spirit
03:25:50 well
03:25:52 they say okay knowing that
03:25:56 some of the best lives actually have
03:25:59 extremely strong foundations
03:26:03 um you know I mean you’ve heard the
03:26:05 thing the best fly has 99 true sure I I
03:26:08 think all eyes have some truth in it
03:26:11 because otherwise no one would believe
03:26:12 them but specifically uh in reference to
03:26:16 the Book of Mormon and I wish I
03:26:20 do you want me to go look it up or well
03:26:23 just tell this business so basically it
03:26:26 was
03:26:27 that
03:26:29 they no longer worshiped the
03:26:34 God as Fed Up in and or the
03:26:37 understanding of God that was presented
03:26:40 in like the laws of Moses it was the the
03:26:43 great spirit
03:26:45 I I I I would say that Layman Millennial
03:26:50 had truth taught to them by their father
03:26:52 Lehi but they didn’t believe it and they
03:26:54 perverted it and that perversion
03:26:56 continued on with their posterity
03:26:59 yeah it talks about the curse have
03:27:02 continued with them because of the
03:27:04 traditions of the fathers
03:27:06 so they were survival
03:27:08 yes yeah which Israelites had a
03:27:12 tradition of doing because they were
03:27:15 righteous and Layman you know I always
03:27:18 say the ones that helped kept that
03:27:19 tradition false tradition going on with
03:27:23 the lamanites
03:27:24 yeah they saw it I mean they were there
03:27:27 with Jeremiah
03:27:29 doing he was teaching against tons of
03:27:32 these
03:27:34 um false traditions in fact most people
03:27:37 today are like you can’t judge me God
03:27:41 doesn’t do that they wouldn’t to people
03:27:42 today would not accept a Jeremiah
03:27:47 but that’s what prophets do is what
03:27:50 Jeremiah did
03:27:53 did it
03:27:56 Isaiah
03:27:58 Isaiah Isaiah
03:28:00 Nathaniel did it to David
03:28:03 yeah
03:28:05 yeah but you don’t see that today
03:28:09 people no they they please people no
03:28:13 they they want what I think it was Nephi
03:28:16 stated and heal him they want a profit
03:28:19 where you give them money and they tell
03:28:21 you all is well in Zion
03:28:23 yeah so they don’t want a private they
03:28:25 want to sit there
03:28:27 exactly yeah that’s a very good point I
03:28:30 hadn’t thought about that one oh which
03:28:32 Taurus speaks against or should I say
03:28:35 food Sayer yeah yeah sure yes that
03:28:40 that’s a good way of putting that
03:28:45 because there’s there’s soothing their
03:28:48 conscience about the sins that they’re
03:28:51 doing of course you know the other
03:28:53 interesting thing is that nowadays
03:28:55 everybody I mean talk about
03:28:59 talk about an absolute expression of
03:29:01 Satan I mean if Satan means the Accuser
03:29:09 there is no shortage of people running
03:29:13 around wagging their fingers at the
03:29:16 other people’s noses
03:29:18 you know going how dare you
03:29:23 you know you know what I think
03:29:26 ironic that goes along ride
03:29:29 oh yeah well yeah so here’s one thing I
03:29:33 when I see something maybe this is good
03:29:35 or bad I have mixed feelings at times
03:29:37 but I do believe
03:29:39 the the scriptures
03:29:41 teach us to reprove our neighbor meaning
03:29:44 help them learn what they’re doing is
03:29:46 wrong is wrong okay I mean you shouldn’t
03:29:49 throw it in their face or be mean about
03:29:52 it but when I’ve done that in a lot of
03:29:54 occasions you know what people tell me
03:29:57 you shouldn’t be so judgmental I’m like
03:29:59 uh you know you’re judging me for
03:30:01 judging
03:30:05 and so I mean you’re being a hypocrite
03:30:07 right there for you judging me for
03:30:10 judging
03:30:11 you’re judging and you’re being a
03:30:13 hypocrite because you’re teaching me to
03:30:15 do something different than what you’re
03:30:16 telling me to do that’s the exact
03:30:18 definition of a hypocrite yeah and the
03:30:21 other interesting mix on that one is
03:30:24 like you shouldn’t judge me you should
03:30:26 forgive me it’s like
03:30:27 you know you do realize that I actually
03:30:30 have to judge you and be offended by you
03:30:33 before I can forgive you no that’s
03:30:37 that’s true I hadn’t thought about that
03:30:39 one
03:30:40 did you want to say something Bree
03:30:43 no I just killed a mosquito they’re out
03:30:46 now
03:30:47 well I didn’t
03:30:51 um
03:30:53 oh sorry
03:30:56 we were talking about haggis and where
03:30:59 he went oh yeah okay
03:31:03 they took the course northward this was
03:31:06 63-6 in Alma
03:31:10 uh so uh I don’t so Emma what because uh
03:31:15 and I don’t think has the same edition
03:31:17 of The Book of Mormon we have so you
03:31:19 can’t just use book members no I’m
03:31:22 afraid that I have
03:31:25 you have the what the version that’s
03:31:28 available through the app
03:31:29 so she just has the LDS Edition she
03:31:32 doesn’t have the earliest text like we
03:31:34 do
03:31:35 well that’s the one I left at the house
03:31:38 so I am going by
03:31:41 um that oh yes oh I thought you said
03:31:44 page number not something so sorry say
03:31:46 that again
03:31:48 it’s Alma 63
03:31:52 verse 6. okay
03:31:57 five six
03:32:01 seven
03:32:06 thank you
03:32:08 it says curious men built a boat large
03:32:16 into the into the West Sea from the
03:32:19 narrow neck
03:32:21 into the land
03:32:24 northward yeah
03:32:27 of course northward in verse six
03:32:33 yeah so I believe Nero nickel land is
03:32:37 right there next to the Niagara Falls
03:32:40 which Niagara uh means narrow neck
03:32:44 hmm
03:32:47 um
03:32:48 so I I believe
03:32:51 anyways and let me I’m gonna go look at
03:32:54 that but uh interesting fact I I served
03:32:57 near there I I served by the Great Lakes
03:33:01 uh up in Ithaca New York which is up in
03:33:03 that area
03:33:08 um but I want to go look since we’re
03:33:10 talking about it
03:33:18 um
03:33:19 and so I I’ve heard theories that uh
03:33:24 Lego Orion
03:33:27 one of these Great Lakes does kind of
03:33:30 have a river that eventually leaves out
03:33:32 to the ocean
03:33:34 give me one sec I’ll be right back sure
03:33:38 also
03:33:40 there’s a lot of changes that were made
03:33:43 after Christ
03:33:44 um was crucified oh yeah yeah
03:33:47 um
03:33:48 there’s I think firm has brought out how
03:33:52 there’s evidence in in these great lakes
03:33:55 that correspond with Book of Mormon and
03:33:58 they’re under the Lakes because of the
03:34:00 modifications
03:34:02 um of I think we may
03:34:06 oh yeah yeah sure
03:34:09 um way me has done a lot of research on
03:34:11 this
03:34:12 um
03:34:13 and so I may mix Wayne May and firm
03:34:16 together because they both for the most
03:34:18 part focus on
03:34:20 uh Book of Mormon geography though firm
03:34:24 does reach out into other areas some
03:34:26 also
03:34:28 um
03:34:29 which
03:34:31 uh I I so I I paid for their uh virtual
03:34:34 Expo I watched one or two videos uh
03:34:38 during work days while I’m working
03:34:40 and and most of them are pretty good
03:34:42 I’ve been enjoying it and learning
03:34:45 um
03:34:46 I don’t agree with everything but
03:34:48 there’s things there I I do like and I
03:34:51 would recommend it to other people
03:34:54 um it’s been nice
03:34:56 but
03:34:58 um looking at the map I was I don’t know
03:35:00 if you heard uh but I was just saying
03:35:03 how there’s a river from Lago Orient
03:35:07 anteon that leads out into the ocean and
03:35:11 that’s near
03:35:12 lakes or also what I would turn the
03:35:16 narrow neck land area
03:35:19 right
03:35:21 um
03:35:22 I I think that the Great Lakes look like
03:35:24 a palm tree
03:35:27 thank you
03:35:30 so the guy
03:35:33 who is seems to be the most current big
03:35:37 proponent of the Mesoamerican
03:35:39 uh con theory of
03:35:43 lemonade Homeland is a Dr John L Wonder
03:35:49 uh I I think soroson’s big with that
03:35:53 area too but I don’t follow that too
03:35:56 much
03:35:57 well I did before I learned of Heartland
03:36:01 and uh as soon as I heard of Heartland I
03:36:05 was pretty much an instant convert to
03:36:07 that there right
03:36:09 um but I’ll be honest before I did
03:36:12 believe most of America could you know
03:36:13 go look at the church’s
03:36:15 um Visitor Center oh my God yeah I’ve
03:36:18 been there
03:36:20 they’re utterly sold as to being the
03:36:23 only place you know it’s like that’s
03:36:25 like that’s where it happened and it’s
03:36:27 like you know honestly I wouldn’t be
03:36:30 surprised if it were actually
03:36:33 a bigger theater I wouldn’t be surprised
03:36:36 if it was actually
03:36:38 both North and South America but that
03:36:42 that’s just me yeah I know well on that
03:36:44 point uh Joseph Smith did say this
03:36:46 country not these continents
03:36:51 and so I I believe it’s only happened in
03:36:56 the Eastern USA for multiple reasons one
03:36:59 being Joseph Smith said this country and
03:37:02 of course that was the area that was the
03:37:05 country at the time
03:37:06 uh yeah for pretty much the most part I
03:37:09 mean I I don’t remember all the land
03:37:12 grabs that the USD USA did and win right
03:37:17 but for the most part in Joseph Smith’s
03:37:20 time it was
03:37:22 east of Mississippi plus maybe a little
03:37:25 bit to the West
03:37:28 um which is what I think Heartland is or
03:37:30 where the Book of Mormon happened
03:37:32 yeah I could see that
03:37:34 um have you ever heard of
03:37:37 how they
03:37:39 Manti Temple was supposedly pre
03:37:44 uh blessings yeah I don’t believe it for
03:37:48 multiple reasons
03:37:50 um but I don’t believe that
03:37:52 um but I don’t even believe in Elias
03:37:54 temples anymore as as I’ve talked about
03:37:58 we can get into the details if you want
03:38:00 but
03:38:02 um actually I would like I am curious uh
03:38:06 sure okay so where do you want to start
03:38:09 well let’s start with the premise that
03:38:12 you used to believe but you don’t
03:38:13 anymore what was the what were the facts
03:38:17 that broke your
03:38:20 uh so to kind of get along with this in
03:38:23 2014 is when I woke up about the LDS
03:38:27 church contradicting things that are in
03:38:29 the Book of Mormon and in the doctrine
03:38:31 Covenants
03:38:33 um and so some around 2014 I pretty much
03:38:37 although my name was on the record I
03:38:41 Fringe member or a non-believer in their
03:38:44 way
03:38:45 uh in 2014 God told me to root my name
03:38:49 uh one time and then I had some friends
03:38:52 talk me out of it and so I didn’t but in
03:38:55 2015 when I got back from visiting my
03:38:59 brother-in-law in France I put in my
03:39:01 letter of resignation because when I was
03:39:03 in France God told me again
03:39:06 and it was very clear
03:39:09 do this
03:39:11 um so I did it as soon as I can but
03:39:12 anyways I think it was about
03:39:14 even for four years four or plus years I
03:39:19 still somewhat I believed a portion of
03:39:22 the LDS temple ceremony was
03:39:26 from God through Joseph Smith I don’t
03:39:28 anymore I believed it to the point that
03:39:30 I was still wearing my garments
03:39:32 for four years and when I they were
03:39:37 um going to wear out right because
03:39:38 underwear doesn’t last forever
03:39:41 or they shouldn’t maybe some people
03:39:43 think they do but anyways I was gonna
03:39:46 make my own because that actually
03:39:50 uh originally uh the elders church only
03:39:54 had you wear the garments in the temple
03:39:56 and knocked out and then later it got
03:39:59 changed to wearing them outside and even
03:40:02 the ones that you were outside
03:40:04 were different than the ones you wore
03:40:06 inside of the temple thin Temple ones
03:40:09 were quote more holy or more special
03:40:12 free are you okay
03:40:14 oh hey Bree I wasn’t that’s like
03:40:18 something something cutter attention
03:40:20 hopefully she’ll
03:40:21 hopefully things are okay
03:40:23 is everything okay Bree
03:40:26 I fell asleep in the chair and this big
03:40:29 boom and
03:40:33 I’m sure he didn’t fall onto the floor
03:40:35 there’s no carpet
03:40:38 um
03:40:40 it’s um his monitor to his game
03:40:45 oh oh
03:40:47 yeah instead of him so it’s okay okay
03:40:50 well anyways so that so anyways I I wore
03:40:54 my garments for
03:40:57 four years give or take after removing
03:41:00 my name from the LDS church because I
03:41:03 still to some degree believed in the LDS
03:41:06 temple ceremonies I don’t anymore it’s
03:41:08 been a process
03:41:11 um
03:41:12 and I during those four years I would go
03:41:15 study things about the LDS temple
03:41:18 ceremony and how it changed
03:41:21 um
03:41:22 is some of the first things I came
03:41:24 across and actually here’s a little
03:41:26 tidbit on that
03:41:28 um which I would count as bad now in the
03:41:31 past I would have counter it as good but
03:41:34 the LDS temple has Saturn Stones which
03:41:39 Saturn is the ancient Sun that all the
03:41:41 sun worship is based off of
03:41:45 um but they it was to the point where
03:41:48 they had rings around it so it was
03:41:49 obvious it was sadder where now it’s
03:41:52 just kind of this um
03:41:59 right anyways that’s bad and it’s
03:42:01 because it’s of the occult but we’ll
03:42:03 we’ll get into that but before all this
03:42:06 happened a little before I
03:42:10 um
03:42:11 I left the LDS church I joined Masons
03:42:16 um which I’m not a member of anymore uh
03:42:19 I’ve removed my name and I’ve publicly
03:42:22 denounced um All That Jazz but anyways
03:42:25 um I initially joined because I thought
03:42:29 um
03:42:29 I came across some things that made it
03:42:31 look like Joseph Smith was part of it
03:42:33 which is kind of the LDS tradition I’ve
03:42:36 come across things since then that’s
03:42:38 probably not the case it’s it’s hairy on
03:42:42 that
03:42:43 um there’s a book called exoneration of
03:42:45 Emma Joseph and Hiram that gets into
03:42:47 some of those details how
03:42:49 documents were forged and that’s partly
03:42:52 why
03:42:53 um the the Brigham Young can get a
03:42:57 charter in Utah because they knew they
03:42:59 were forging uh documents that are
03:43:02 required for the paperwork including
03:43:05 leaving blank spaces so they could add
03:43:07 things later in fact that happened was
03:43:09 Joseph Smith’s journals also but hey I’m
03:43:12 getting a little sidetracked but anyways
03:43:14 um I did join Masons partly because I
03:43:16 thought it was good partly because uh I
03:43:19 thought Joseph Smith was a mason
03:43:22 um and I also came across an article
03:43:24 that tied some of the teachings
03:43:26 supposed the teachings of Joseph Smith
03:43:28 to the Kabbalah which I don’t believe
03:43:31 anymore
03:43:32 um Kabbalah is a Jewish mysticism of
03:43:35 mystery Babylon
03:43:37 but I didn’t know that at the time
03:43:40 um and I knew masonry was into Kabbalah
03:43:44 um anyways so I joined I’ve learned some
03:43:47 things
03:43:49 um doing that but as time went on
03:43:53 there was a verse that God gave me from
03:43:56 Torah give me one minute I can
03:43:59 tell you what verse it is because I I
03:44:01 have it
03:44:02 in a post of mine where I call myself
03:44:05 out for not listening actually
03:44:08 um
03:44:10 so one second let me give you the verse
03:44:12 and I can read it to you
03:44:14 [Music]
03:44:17 thank you
03:44:18 and it relates to Heartland too
03:44:21 um but anyways it is Exodus 20 26. so
03:44:26 this is the first thing God gave me
03:44:28 years before I accepted it I I knew it
03:44:32 was there but I kind of ignored it
03:44:33 because I kind of liked the temple right
03:44:36 anyways uh Exodus 20 26 neither shalt
03:44:41 thou go up thy steps unto mine altar
03:44:45 and so all the altars in mesoamerica
03:44:49 since we’re I’m sidetracking a little
03:44:51 bit they don’t have steps
03:44:54 I mean they they have steps the ones in
03:44:57 mesoam America have steps
03:45:00 um
03:45:02 but the ones in Heartland do not they’re
03:45:05 they’re a ramp
03:45:07 that’s a Torah commandment here in
03:45:09 Exodus 20 26 but the part that relates
03:45:13 to the temple is the last part
03:45:18 I ramp
03:45:19 uh the the people’s in in a Heartland
03:45:23 have ramps up to the altar the temples
03:45:27 in mesoamerica have steps
03:45:32 okay
03:45:34 okay Heartland what are we talking
03:45:37 Heartland uh Eastern United States
03:45:44 east of Mississippi
03:45:46 basically
03:45:49 um but anyways this is a side track but
03:45:53 um
03:45:53 the main part that has to do with the
03:45:55 temple is this last part in the on the
03:45:58 reasoning why God says us that thy
03:46:00 nakedness be not discovered thereon so
03:46:05 when I got this Revelation or Insight
03:46:08 from God I knew what it was saying that
03:46:12 the Israelites
03:46:15 did not have garments as Elias church
03:46:18 people claim
03:46:23 if you didn’t have if you had garments
03:46:26 you wouldn’t be naked
03:46:29 right I mean initially they went down to
03:46:33 your knees then they went up to just I
03:46:36 mean to your ankles they initially went
03:46:39 down to your ankles
03:46:41 and to your wrists you couldn’t have
03:46:43 short sleeve shirts
03:46:45 anyways and then they changed it to to
03:46:49 just above the knees and depending if
03:46:52 you’re a woman or a man it either goes
03:46:54 to somewhere on you know here this is
03:46:56 where mine went but I know some woman’s
03:46:59 go up to here right depending on the
03:47:02 version and timing but anyways
03:47:04 if
03:47:06 the Israelites and lehights who did the
03:47:08 temple ceremonies
03:47:11 had garments why would that be an issue
03:47:14 of uncovering their nakedness
03:47:18 foreign
03:47:21 because they’re they’re closed but
03:47:23 that’s not how they did close
03:47:26 so
03:47:28 one interesting thing about the whole
03:47:30 term
03:47:32 um revealing their nakedness or his
03:47:35 nakedness
03:47:36 is that
03:47:38 uh it seems to be a reference
03:47:40 specifically to the the groin area
03:47:43 the loin area
03:47:46 um and and usually if in relationship to
03:47:51 uh the act of sexual reproduction
03:47:59 so what I mean is so like I partly agree
03:48:02 but I’d want to caveat where we’d have
03:48:04 to go looking on the on the side that is
03:48:08 the case or not so where that comes in
03:48:11 specifically when I when I was talking
03:48:13 about the sexual reproduction part
03:48:15 is that
03:48:18 um the of the houses of Israel the sons
03:48:21 who were the founders of the House of
03:48:23 Israel I forgot what his name was but
03:48:26 the firstborn son
03:48:28 was denied the leadership of
03:48:31 the house of Israel because
03:48:35 I’m referring to Reuben
03:48:38 he had revealed his father’s nakedness
03:48:40 by Sleeping with his yes no that’s Noah
03:48:44 um that’s Noah Noah’s son
03:48:48 had sex with his mother
03:48:51 um and that’s that’s what uncovering
03:48:54 Noah’s nakedness is so reuben reuben is
03:48:59 of Jacob but the story you’re bringing
03:49:01 up is Noah
03:49:03 yeah
03:49:05 you’re getting two stories
03:49:14 um and and Noah cursed the lineage of
03:49:19 his son that caused that
03:49:23 so
03:49:25 I I know that
03:49:28 ham
03:49:31 uh found his father
03:49:34 naked naked after in a stupor because he
03:49:38 had celebrated so much the fact that God
03:49:41 had spared their lives
03:49:43 yeah I know I was drinking too much wine
03:49:46 and yeah and
03:49:52 I forgot his other name
03:49:55 um
03:49:58 found out about the uh incident the
03:50:03 incident they went in in such a way that
03:50:07 they could not even see their father’s
03:50:09 nakedness
03:50:11 yes and they covered their father with
03:50:14 arraignment so that he would not
03:50:17 be revealed to the world and
03:50:22 I’m not quite sure how
03:50:25 um ham seeing his father naked and
03:50:28 laughing at him was the same as sleeping
03:50:31 with his wife or his mother I I can give
03:50:34 you some I I don’t know enough to
03:50:37 expound it upon it right now
03:50:41 um
03:50:42 I I can give you some resources that get
03:50:45 into those details I don’t have all that
03:50:46 memorized
03:50:48 um
03:50:49 yeah there’s more
03:50:52 in that story yeah
03:50:55 um and I’m trying to think where I’m I’m
03:50:57 looking to see if I documented where I
03:51:00 got it from that it was he did
03:51:06 homosexual Act
03:51:09 yeah him
03:51:12 this is disgusting but ham had sex with
03:51:15 his mother or Noah’s wife
03:51:19 um and
03:51:21 that is that act or or practice is very
03:51:26 common with Wicked people
03:51:28 all throughout the Old Testament
03:51:33 especially when they went from
03:51:36 they were saved After the flood from
03:51:41 those kind of rituals and perversion
03:51:47 yeah it’s a it’s an there’s multiple
03:51:51 things to this but part of this is
03:51:53 stating I’m taking over I’m in charge
03:51:56 now
03:51:58 yeah there was
03:52:02 uh you know that that isn’t I could see
03:52:06 that possibly in the way that
03:52:10 um there was a
03:52:12 more of a connection of women
03:52:18 if there was such a thing as owning it
03:52:20 was the women who owned the land and the
03:52:23 man had to be married to the woman in
03:52:25 order to have command of the land
03:52:28 and
03:52:30 not according to God’s law if you go
03:52:32 read through Torah land is given to men
03:52:34 and in fact when there was a man I I
03:52:38 forget the names oh sorry you want to
03:52:41 say something real quick Bree
03:52:43 no it goes along with because
03:52:46 they were given yeah well exactly but in
03:52:51 in Torah there’s a history that we’re
03:52:54 told when a father had no Sons the
03:52:59 daughters complained to Moses like we
03:53:01 don’t want our father to lose the
03:53:04 inheritance the land inheritance right
03:53:06 and so there was an exception made that
03:53:09 the son-in-law would get it but that is
03:53:12 itself shows that the land goes through
03:53:15 the man not through the woman
03:53:17 well so the the laws of Moses
03:53:22 um were
03:53:24 given after Noah
03:53:28 and I
03:53:31 you know I there’s some people
03:53:33 who and you you may be one of them who
03:53:38 believes that
03:53:39 the Commandments have been you know
03:53:42 their Commandments from God have been
03:53:46 consistent and no unchanging forever and
03:53:49 ever
03:53:50 and I’m one of them Joseph Smith was one
03:53:52 of them too
03:53:54 and
03:53:56 um I
03:53:58 haven’t
03:54:00 gotten to that point I’m happy to talk
03:54:03 about various points I I I don’t know
03:54:06 enough that I could bring down
03:54:07 everything in the scriptures but there’s
03:54:09 various ones I could bring it out if you
03:54:11 want to talk about that
03:54:13 um
03:54:14 because the Book of Mormon teaches it
03:54:16 they’re always the same Joseph Smith
03:54:19 thought there’s always the same
03:54:21 um
03:54:22 I believe there’s the same there is
03:54:27 a complication of what is the law of
03:54:30 Moses
03:54:31 um which I’ve done with three before as
03:54:33 preach talked about earlier in this and
03:54:36 I I don’t have it in one
03:54:40 um
03:54:40 pretty compact nice package to give to
03:54:44 you
03:54:45 but I am happy to go through it all over
03:54:48 again for you what I have to help you
03:54:51 see how I put the log Moses issue
03:54:56 together with the rest of the law
03:55:01 because I do think there is an exception
03:55:04 for the law of Moses
03:55:06 um per se but it’s something that was
03:55:08 always known always known that was an
03:55:12 exception because the law of Moses is
03:55:15 also called the carnal Commandments in
03:55:18 its anyways
03:55:20 um we can get into that or we can go
03:55:22 back to the temple thing or or the NOAA
03:55:24 thing well I okay so I did interrupt you
03:55:27 no I’m that’s I I’m an interruption is
03:55:31 bad I’m just saying where do you want to
03:55:33 focus I know I have no subject I I’m I’m
03:55:37 I did ask the question what
03:55:40 brought you away from and of course it
03:55:43 was this was just I guess it was the
03:55:44 scripture that you oh yeah
03:55:47 and I’m like wow over here and it’s like
03:55:51 oh I see squirrels oh no with Bree you
03:55:55 Bree and I when we was just me and her
03:55:58 we went on tons and tangents all the
03:56:01 time I’m fine with them I’m just asking
03:56:04 which one do you want to focus on do you
03:56:06 want to add this on the law of Moses
03:56:07 thing or do you want to go back to the
03:56:09 temple or you want to look
03:56:10 um I wanted to finish up
03:56:14 um why you’re not you don’t consider
03:56:17 yourself Mormon why you don’t consider
03:56:19 the temple uh valid at this point
03:56:24 let’s clarify Mormon I consider myself
03:56:26 Mormon
03:56:28 I consider myself all right let me
03:56:30 rephrase that I don’t consider myself
03:56:33 LDS you’re no longer consider yourself
03:56:35 mainstream LDS sure sure right right
03:56:39 um I wouldn’t yeah mainstream because I
03:56:42 think I’m a Latter-Day Saint it’s just
03:56:45 not a brigamide what are they saying but
03:56:48 so
03:56:50 um back to the the temple
03:56:52 but what I was trying to mainly bring
03:56:54 out was that versus how I believe it
03:56:57 says
03:56:58 there’s not garments right okay
03:57:02 um but I kind of ignored it because I
03:57:05 enjoyed the temple
03:57:07 um I still did even at that point
03:57:11 um and it’s you know it’s hard to let go
03:57:13 of things that you you like and you
03:57:15 enjoy
03:57:17 right um so I basically ignored it that
03:57:22 scripture that got me God gave me for
03:57:24 quite a long time years actually and I
03:57:27 studied more about the temple the
03:57:29 changes I’ve gotten
03:57:32 a thick scholarly scholarly books that
03:57:35 goes over the journals of early LDS
03:57:38 leaders
03:57:39 on the specifics of Temple what they
03:57:43 stated why they changed them and stuff
03:57:46 like and I I mean I hadn’t read all of
03:57:47 them or whatnot but I’ve read bits and
03:57:51 pieces because it’s a subject that was
03:57:53 important to me still even though I was
03:57:56 an LDS anymore
03:57:59 um
03:58:00 but there was a time
03:58:02 somewhere along the way I think it was
03:58:07 mid 2018 or so
03:58:11 um God started opening my opening my
03:58:14 eyes because I mean
03:58:17 there’s a lot of connections to the LDS
03:58:21 temple ceremony and Masons
03:58:23 there’s differences because I’ve been
03:58:25 through both
03:58:27 um when I was a Mason I was
03:58:30 uh uh a Master Mason in the blue Lodge
03:58:35 which is first second and third
03:58:39 degree lack of a better term for you or
03:58:41 levels
03:58:43 and then later and that’s completely
03:58:46 separate and then there’s after that you
03:58:48 can do Scottish right
03:58:50 which I was a 32nd degree Scottish ride
03:58:54 now when people claim that Joseph Smith
03:58:57 was a 33rd degree Mason that’s a
03:59:00 complete fabrication that’s a complete
03:59:02 lie if he was anything which I even
03:59:06 doubt this now but if it was anything it
03:59:08 was a Master Mason which is only three
03:59:10 degrees there wasn’t any Scottish rites
03:59:13 lodges around Joseph Smith
03:59:16 um but anyways in fact
03:59:20 on that point
03:59:23 um it was oh what’s this guy in the
03:59:26 South that’s really hated that’s really
03:59:30 big in masonry in this Cottage right
03:59:34 I’m afraid that I don’t know I can find
03:59:36 out but he was a a big guy fighting for
03:59:41 the south in the Civil War
03:59:43 um
03:59:44 Lee
03:59:46 huh
03:59:48 like Robert E Lee no give me a minute I
03:59:50 can find it okay
04:00:05 he’s the author of morals and Dogma
04:00:12 author of what
04:00:14 Mark he’s the author of morals and Dogma
04:00:21 hold on Albert Pike okay Albert Pike
04:00:23 that’s the
04:00:26 there’s tons of controversies around
04:00:29 Albert Pike which I wouldn’t say are
04:00:31 sustainable but anyways
04:00:33 um
04:00:34 the Scottish Rite gets a lot of slack
04:00:38 because of him and his morals and dogma
04:00:40 and he was the one that
04:00:44 made Scottish Rite to have 33 degrees
04:00:49 and he’s after Joseph Smith who was
04:00:52 murdered
04:00:55 um so he couldn’t have been even if he
04:00:58 was Joseph Smith was of the Scottish
04:01:00 Rite he couldn’t have been a 33 degree
04:01:04 Mason because that didn’t happen until
04:01:06 Albert Pike
04:01:08 redid the Scottish right
04:01:11 which is funny they call it Scottish
04:01:13 Rite but he’s from uh you know the south
04:01:16 of the United States so I don’t know how
04:01:18 it got its name I’m just telling you
04:01:21 there’s anyways uh enough with that but
04:01:26 um
04:01:27 but anyway a lot of people like talk how
04:01:30 they know things about masonry and they
04:01:33 just know it’s evil
04:01:35 but when Masons try to talk to him and
04:01:39 or like me because I I somewhat defended
04:01:42 it to some degree when I was a Mason uh
04:01:45 I would ask them questions or houses for
04:01:47 this or bring out scriptures that they
04:01:49 didn’t know that shows what they’re
04:01:51 saying is wrong what they’re trying to
04:01:53 use to contradict the masonry
04:01:55 there’s a lot of misinformation on both
04:01:58 sides and I think it’s on purpose in
04:02:00 fact I think even though the Masons the
04:02:03 the top ones that are the
04:02:06 satanists and whatnot they have not that
04:02:09 bad information get out there so when
04:02:12 the unknowing Mason sees this bad
04:02:16 information that someone else is soaring
04:02:18 at them they’ll just laugh at him like
04:02:19 you don’t know what you’re talking about
04:02:20 because they don’t
04:02:22 misinformation is a tool that’s used to
04:02:26 get people to be in divisions anyways
04:02:29 there was a lot of that when I was
04:02:30 amazing but for some reason and I have
04:02:34 no explanation other than God woke me up
04:02:39 because there’s really no other
04:02:40 explanation that I started seeing how it
04:02:42 was
04:02:43 how masonry was bad
04:02:47 um and there’s some videos that after I
04:02:50 came to that realization that helped me
04:02:52 find the scriptural support for it
04:02:55 um
04:02:57 there’s one guy that has some video on
04:03:00 it and I I I have it on my masonry
04:03:02 reference page I’ll put it in the chat
04:03:04 and you can go there but I think
04:03:07 Walter Veet or how do you say his name
04:03:10 Bree I I know
04:03:14 we both like him but I I first
04:03:20 one of the First videos I ran across
04:03:22 that kind of helped confirm my beliefs
04:03:25 that I or understandings that I got from
04:03:28 from God was from him and he went deep
04:03:32 into details on it
04:03:34 um
04:03:36 also there was a video that I first saw
04:03:39 on Facebook that I later found on
04:03:41 YouTube that even went into more details
04:03:43 because the one on YouTube was a clip
04:03:45 but I have a reference to it on my
04:03:47 Resource page I can share shows how the
04:03:51 the dedication ceremony that Masons do
04:03:56 for dedicating their their Temple their
04:03:59 buildings
04:04:00 and other things are actually they’re
04:04:03 doing things at the Old Testament
04:04:05 specifically speaks out out speaks out
04:04:09 against and that definitely helped me
04:04:11 convert me to that
04:04:14 um
04:04:15 and then later on the LDS temple uh
04:04:19 after I wasn’t a Mason anymore I started
04:04:22 seeing the occultic
04:04:23 uh connections with it and and actually
04:04:26 how it contradicts the scriptures this
04:04:30 came to me later because I don’t
04:04:31 remember every single point because I
04:04:34 didn’t Journal it I’ve never you know on
04:04:39 my mission I journaled pretty uh
04:04:42 diligently the first nine months of my
04:04:46 mission give or take not past 12 months
04:04:49 but somewhere between nine months and 12
04:04:52 and 12 months I gave up because I I
04:04:56 uh who’s the LDS early leader that was
04:05:00 uh really known for journaling was that
04:05:02 wood for Woodruff or was it someone else
04:05:07 for what
04:05:09 Wilford Woodruff
04:05:13 but known for what journaling like he he
04:05:17 was a notorious journaler I think it was
04:05:19 real for drugs anyways whoever it was I
04:05:22 did that on my mission
04:05:25 well for nine months give or take
04:05:28 I in fact I had my my blue planners my
04:05:32 the daily plan with my notes from our
04:05:35 interviews or not that are
04:05:38 meetings
04:05:42 um and I was like weeks behind and so
04:05:46 I’d be looking at my platter my blue
04:05:48 planner that FYI my phone
04:05:52 I still call it blue because of the book
04:05:54 matter from my mission anyways it’s
04:05:57 still in me
04:05:58 um
04:05:59 but
04:06:01 um I would look at the notes from my my
04:06:03 blue planner to write in my journal to
04:06:06 try to catch up but I don’t do it
04:06:07 anymore
04:06:09 um so I don’t remember every single
04:06:11 point on this right
04:06:13 somewhere along the ways this one is
04:06:15 after
04:06:18 um
04:06:19 Sermon on the Mount right that’s an
04:06:21 important uh lecture no matter what you
04:06:24 think about the law
04:06:26 um because I believe sermon amount is
04:06:28 teaching us how to keep the law not
04:06:31 changing it but that’s a whole other
04:06:32 subject but in there he states that we
04:06:37 should keep our Oaths our covenants by
04:06:39 being honest
04:06:40 it’s he says that by an idiom that you
04:06:43 should answer yay or nay nay that’s a
04:06:46 Hebrew idiom for be honest and it also
04:06:50 says don’t keep covenants by your own
04:06:53 authority as in by the hair of your head
04:06:56 because hair isn’t an idiom for
04:06:59 authority and
04:07:01 in the earliest temples
04:07:05 um part of our Authority is our life
04:07:07 right and life has to do with blood LDS
04:07:10 temples have blood Covenants
04:07:13 there may not be as obvious now since
04:07:16 1996 if I remembering the year correctly
04:07:21 um but they’re still implied
04:07:24 right they changed in 1990 yesterday
04:07:27 yeah it was in the early 1990s
04:07:33 and
04:07:34 they change sure the change was before I
04:07:39 went through the temple in 99 so it
04:07:42 sounds like I think it was nice it was
04:07:44 in the early
04:07:45 it was like
04:07:47 at or before 1995 that I can remember
04:07:52 they
04:07:54 um found
04:07:55 there was a couple of uh there was at
04:07:59 least one I think
04:08:01 uh member of the twelve
04:08:04 who found out about
04:08:07 satanic cult activities happening
04:08:10 that
04:08:12 we’re utilizing the uh temples
04:08:16 uh sure
04:08:18 there’s a letter about that I forget I
04:08:22 can find it but and so they changed it
04:08:25 so that they weren’t triggering people
04:08:28 is that the reason why they changed it
04:08:31 I believe so
04:08:34 we could look it up I’ll put that on the
04:08:36 table now but it was because of the the
04:08:39 satanic uh activity that they watered it
04:08:43 down in the first place
04:08:45 uh that’s interesting I’ll have to look
04:08:47 at the timing of the letter of that
04:08:49 leaked on that the bishop that did the
04:08:52 research
04:08:53 um
04:08:54 that wasn’t Glenn paste no yeah that’s
04:08:57 the Glenn Pace memo
04:08:58 um let’s go see what year that was
04:09:04 yeah
04:09:05 let’s go see what year that was because
04:09:07 that was the Glenn pace
04:09:10 uh so Wikipedia says that was 1990.
04:09:15 that’s uh and I think those changes
04:09:18 happened
04:09:19 95-96 so yeah maybe
04:09:25 I I think that’s earlier than that but
04:09:28 the LDS church sometimes takes a while
04:09:30 to change things so
04:09:34 it’s debatable but anyways
04:09:36 um
04:09:37 there was blood covenants
04:09:40 um explicit play covenants the Masons
04:09:42 still have the explicit blood covenants
04:09:44 but in the LDS church they’re still
04:09:47 implied
04:09:49 um I I need to kind of be semi AFK for
04:09:53 just a moment
04:09:56 um
04:09:57 it’s I’ll be right back okay all right
04:10:00 well I’ll wait to continue then
04:10:10 the temple is a big subject for sure
04:10:20 I think we’ve been going recording
04:10:23 already for
04:10:25 a long time I think we started recording
04:10:29 around a half hour after we started or
04:10:33 is it
04:10:35 more than that I can’t remember it was
04:10:38 after exactly yeah it was after
04:10:41 sacrament
04:10:41 [Music]
04:10:43 um
04:10:44 I didn’t look at the time
04:10:46 yeah I I’m just I’m wishing
04:10:52 huh
04:10:54 it’s late here
04:10:57 well it’s late for me too
04:11:02 I’m surprised your wife hasn’t come out
04:11:04 yet
04:11:05 no I’m I’m trying to talk quiet so it’s
04:11:08 not an issue
04:11:09 [Music]
04:11:11 I I do know sometimes I get excited I
04:11:14 start talking louder
04:11:16 you may have to remind her
04:11:19 yeah if I see that then of like this
04:11:23 yeah I’ll try to watch for that
04:11:26 um
04:11:27 okay well ends back so
04:11:30 uh The Sermon on the Mount says
04:11:33 don’t
04:11:35 um
04:11:37 don’t make covenants according to your
04:11:40 Authority
04:11:42 um and it’s basically saying
04:11:44 be honest about it or in the earliest
04:11:47 temples you’re taking blood Oaths uh on
04:11:51 to to keep quote covenants with God
04:11:55 which contradicts sermon on the
04:11:57 mountains
04:11:59 um and although you don’t go like this
04:12:02 anymore in the LDS temple
04:12:05 um you’re still the was it the the sign
04:12:09 you still have your thumb
04:12:12 sticking out for the sign which
04:12:14 completely relates to this
04:12:18 um
04:12:20 to give that time
04:12:24 for those that
04:12:26 do remember uh you broke up a little bit
04:12:30 so can you say that again Bree
04:12:34 big pause
04:12:38 it’s for those that still remember
04:12:40 because I mean until I came into the
04:12:44 light
04:12:46 exactly what I did secretly in my mind
04:12:50 because I mean after a while you’re
04:12:53 conditioned to do that right
04:12:58 the change is wrong I need to go back to
04:13:02 the way it was at the beginning oh that
04:13:05 makes some sense I I’ve never caught on
04:13:07 to the pause but that was before I went
04:13:10 through so
04:13:12 um well I I do know uh I have an
04:13:17 associate that we’ve talked about that
04:13:19 he joined the Church of Christ because
04:13:23 he found out that the temple changed and
04:13:25 they claimed to have the original Temple
04:13:28 ordinance I mean which I don’t believe
04:13:30 because it’s from Brigham Young not
04:13:32 Joseph Smith
04:13:35 no the Church of Christ has nothing to
04:13:38 do with
04:13:39 um
04:13:40 the the mainstream yes uh
04:13:45 share the what rlds uh they they fell
04:13:49 under no that’s Community of Christ oh
04:13:52 Church of Christ or they also sometimes
04:13:55 call themselves the branch is
04:13:58 um in there oh that’s another Breakaway
04:14:00 I guess yeah that’s a breakaway from the
04:14:03 LDS brighamite tradition they’re
04:14:05 fundamentalists because they they
04:14:07 practice polygamy also but
04:14:10 there are more bergamite than the
04:14:12 current LDS church because the LDS
04:14:14 church tries to base somewhat mainstream
04:14:16 and acceptable right right which is
04:14:18 ironic because the scriptures talks how
04:14:20 we shouldn’t be after the
04:14:23 acceptance of man but anyways
04:14:26 um but they’re they’re more big in the
04:14:30 Provo and uh American Fork and coin to
04:14:35 the mountain area to church now you’re
04:14:37 talking about the king uh community
04:14:42 uh I don’t I don’t know that there’s
04:14:46 like the uh
04:14:48 so there’s the flds which is like uh the
04:14:52 deafs
04:14:53 uh I forgot what the other name was but
04:14:56 then there’s the
04:14:58 uh yes yes Jeff Warrens and then there’s
04:15:03 the other group that was
04:15:06 um the lebarons
04:15:07 and then there’s the other group which
04:15:10 was the Kings and the kings are the most
04:15:13 mainstream
04:15:14 and I don’t know if you’ve ever seen the
04:15:16 Sister Wives show
04:15:19 um
04:15:20 but
04:15:22 um I believe that they that group came
04:15:24 from the Kings
04:15:26 um uh I don’t think the Church of Christ
04:15:29 is Kings with that no of the TV show but
04:15:33 I I
04:15:35 I don’t know
04:15:37 that those break off well enough to know
04:15:39 to to confidently say that but
04:15:44 um I I do know this the Church of Christ
04:15:46 is a break off on the LDS church a
04:15:50 little before
04:15:51 they they give prousted to before the
04:15:55 LDS church gave priesthood to the blacks
04:15:57 because they still deny Black’s
04:15:59 priesthood
04:16:01 um
04:16:02 which comes from
04:16:04 Brigham Young because Joseph Smith gave
04:16:06 priesthood two black people and the Book
04:16:09 of Mormon shows that uh black skin white
04:16:12 skin is a Hebrew idiom in the fact that
04:16:16 when Nephites and lamanites went among
04:16:19 each other in fact they did to the
04:16:22 Nephites went among the nephite
04:16:24 lamanites during wartime
04:16:28 and the lamanites thought they were
04:16:31 lamanites because they couldn’t tell
04:16:33 each other apart by skin color
04:16:37 because they had a lamanite go with them
04:16:40 but anyways the Layman ice and Nephites
04:16:43 couldn’t tell each other apart by sight
04:16:45 or skin color it’s a Hebrew idiom
04:16:48 um
04:16:49 but
04:16:51 I’ve often heard uh I mean this is more
04:16:55 uh if
04:16:59 uh mythology my
04:17:03 uh
04:17:05 other mother-in-law you used to call it
04:17:08 the mythology
04:17:10 where it was like a tradition that
04:17:12 didn’t actually have any doctrinal basis
04:17:14 or anything like that and
04:17:18 um so a mythology that I grew up with
04:17:21 was that the darkness was not actually
04:17:25 skin color but rather
04:17:28 the
04:17:30 lack of reading for the soul or the you
04:17:34 know they were just dark well they were
04:17:37 like depressed or yeah you know coffee
04:17:40 or you know it was so I don’t know if
04:17:44 I’m making any sense
04:17:47 was dark or something like that yeah
04:17:50 it’s their attitude which goes along
04:17:52 with the Hebrew idiom because when when
04:17:54 you’re Wicked you’re meaner you’re not
04:17:57 happy
04:17:59 um like wickedness never was happiness
04:18:01 right because white has to do with joy
04:18:04 and righteousness like I we talked a
04:18:06 little bit on the tree life and the
04:18:07 fruit was white
04:18:09 I mean Revelations God has white hair
04:18:11 and this goes along with the two idioms
04:18:14 I’ve already talked about why
04:18:15 righteousness hair Authority God has
04:18:17 righteous Authority in fact there’s a
04:18:20 quote from Joseph Smith that people like
04:18:23 to quote except the part where he talks
04:18:25 about the color of their hair
04:18:27 you said something about her meaning
04:18:29 Authority yeah hair hair is an idiom for
04:18:32 Authority it’s a Hebrew really yeah I
04:18:36 see it in the Book of Mormon and it’s in
04:18:38 the Old Testament so well I’m gonna have
04:18:41 to ask a different question another time
04:18:43 right now
04:18:45 so
04:18:48 covering your head
04:18:50 oh yeah okay Corinthians right
04:18:55 so
04:18:57 um
04:18:58 I don’t completely know what to do with
04:19:01 that but that’s not in Torah
04:19:04 um
04:19:06 so there’s parts of things that are in
04:19:09 the New Testament that are questionable
04:19:11 whether if it was from Paul or not
04:19:15 um this is one that I would classify
04:19:17 into that
04:19:19 um I mean the whole covering the head is
04:19:22 if I understand like Old Testament stuff
04:19:25 because I mean the Jews do it the the
04:19:29 Muslims do it so
04:19:32 the Jews the Levites had a turban when
04:19:36 they were the people they were a turban
04:19:38 and that contradicts what’s actually in
04:19:40 Corinthians that is supposedly
04:19:42 attributed to Paul because he says the
04:19:45 man should not cover
04:19:46 were the Levites in the temple are to
04:19:49 cover and that that’s in Torah that they
04:19:51 actually wore a turban
04:19:52 right the the you know where they wrap
04:19:54 it around right here
04:19:56 um
04:19:57 so it contradicts that
04:20:00 um and so I
04:20:03 as far as I know Joseph Smith hasn’t
04:20:05 said one way or the other on that one
04:20:07 because like um
04:20:09 song to Solomon Joseph Smith said that’s
04:20:11 not inspired of God
04:20:13 when he was working on the jst
04:20:17 um but and with this job The Song of
04:20:20 Solomon is a an erotic poem to one of
04:20:24 Solomon’s lovers uh
04:20:29 like a a love ballad or something you
04:20:33 know it’s not it’s it’s porno well yeah
04:20:39 um
04:20:41 unromantically yeah well you could
04:20:45 attribute it to like the the novels that
04:20:48 some women get addicted to that
04:20:50 talk about pornonic aspects using words
04:20:55 women are more
04:20:58 um aroused by words
04:21:01 men are aroused by eyes well I mean I
04:21:07 mean all you have to do is just look at
04:21:08 50 Shades of Gray you know it’s the
04:21:10 story book and that’s that’s porno for
04:21:13 women yeah that’s that’s what I’m saying
04:21:16 it the songs of Solomon is porno Joseph
04:21:20 Smith said it was not inspired of God
04:21:22 there are a lot of people in Christendom
04:21:25 that says it’s a parallel or an analogy
04:21:30 uh to Christ in the church and I I just
04:21:33 don’t buy it
04:21:35 um
04:21:39 there are people that in Christendom
04:21:41 that teach that
04:21:43 um that it’s analogy of you guys I don’t
04:21:45 know if it was my internet but both of
04:21:47 you just froze for a good 30 seconds
04:21:50 there so I didn’t catch what you were
04:21:53 saying about Christendom saying about
04:21:56 um there’s a lot of people in
04:21:58 Christendom and preachers that say that
04:22:01 Songs of Solomon is a parable uh
04:22:04 regarding Christ and the church and I
04:22:07 just don’t buy it
04:22:08 though I’m just telling you that’s what
04:22:10 people say I know I know
04:22:16 do you want to say something I well I
04:22:21 mean I suppose at a stretch I mean I’ve
04:22:23 heard you know the wedding day is
04:22:27 for the woman and the honeymoon
04:22:33 ten virgins is a wedding so yeah so I
04:22:38 mean that’s true that extreme stretch
04:22:42 maybe but I don’t think so yeah I yeah I
04:22:47 agree with you I think it’s a far
04:22:48 stretch because the basic concept of
04:22:51 Christ and the wedding in the marriage
04:22:52 is true but to to apply it to Songs of
04:22:55 Solomon
04:22:57 I think that’s too far because it’s very
04:23:00 sexual
04:23:03 um but anyways
04:23:07 I forget where I was going
04:23:09 um so maybe you can remind me
04:23:12 um oh we were talking about the temple
04:23:15 some I don’t know how we got on Songs of
04:23:17 Solomon
04:23:18 uh but in the temple in fact the the
04:23:21 second one I don’t remember the second
04:23:24 token of the oh we got on the Song of
04:23:26 Solomon because you said that it was
04:23:29 that Joseph Smith had said it was
04:23:31 uninspired but that was a kind of a side
04:23:33 note from something else that you were
04:23:35 talking about from the Joseph
04:23:37 translation which I can’t remember
04:23:38 because oh yeah it was Corinthians
04:23:40 Corinthians we were talking about the
04:23:42 coverings
04:23:44 yeah
04:23:46 um
04:23:49 I I don’t completely know what to make
04:23:52 of that I am prone to think that was
04:23:55 either Paul’s personal opinion
04:23:57 or if it wasn’t or it wasn’t from Paul
04:24:01 um
04:24:02 it could possibly be you know
04:24:06 um I mean if
04:24:09 if the Levites if the priests were
04:24:12 supposed to cover their head in the
04:24:13 temple during the services
04:24:17 um
04:24:19 this could
04:24:23 oh I this is going to be where’s the
04:24:28 more what’s more outside the temple or
04:24:30 inside the temple inside the temples
04:24:34 um well I mean if you look I mean when
04:24:37 it boils down to it what’s the most holy
04:24:40 what’s the most what is the most holy
04:24:42 Temple
04:24:43 your body
04:24:45 you know
04:24:47 I mean uh maybe it depends on the person
04:24:51 but I mean it all boils down to right I
04:24:56 I really you know I consider
04:24:58 temples and houses of God uh as a
04:25:05 a symbol of what we’re supposed to
04:25:08 eventually achieve with our attitude
04:25:11 towards our own bodies
04:25:14 um
04:25:16 and you know
04:25:19 there’s so much stuff that we have to
04:25:20 work through
04:25:21 of ourselves I mean when God says you
04:25:25 know how you treat the least of you is
04:25:28 how you treat me you know I mean
04:25:30 ultimately I really think it boils down
04:25:33 to you
04:25:34 how you treat yourself
04:25:37 is how you treat God right in fact uh
04:25:40 the two Commandments I think shows that
04:25:41 love others as you love yourself
04:25:48 the thing is is that
04:25:53 um
04:25:54 in just the general attitudes of
04:25:59 people you know
04:26:01 short of
04:26:02 feeding your addictions feeding your
04:26:05 lusts you know I mean short of that
04:26:10 um it takes
04:26:12 true
04:26:14 dedication and commitment to care for
04:26:18 yourself
04:26:20 and take care of
04:26:22 you know me so you’re not falling apart
04:26:24 that you’re that you’re able to like
04:26:27 stay integrated and
04:26:29 with the spirit and
04:26:32 you know and I think one thing that
04:26:35 leads into that I don’t know if you want
04:26:37 to talk about this or go back to the
04:26:39 other things but the word of wisdom and
04:26:41 kosher loss
04:26:49 is it time to shut down yeah I I can
04:26:52 spend a little more time but my wife
04:26:54 saying it’s time to go to bed but
04:26:59 um that that idea kind of leads into
04:27:01 word of wisdom and kosher loss oh for
04:27:04 sure
04:27:07 I mean that’s totally like the physical
04:27:09 aspect
04:27:11 um
04:27:12 for sure I’m just saying that
04:27:15 you know when we don’t when we’re not
04:27:19 focused
04:27:20 giving into Temptations and and desires
04:27:24 and and feeding the natural man type of
04:27:27 thing
04:27:28 um our inclination tends to be to ignore
04:27:32 our needs to ignore our you know to put
04:27:36 others people community needs to other
04:27:38 people’s needs the people who are more
04:27:40 who we consider more vulnerable than
04:27:42 ourselves ahead of ourselves
04:27:45 we should be taking care and I mean this
04:27:48 is in the Bible and Joseph Smith said
04:27:50 pure religion is take care of the widows
04:27:53 and the fatherless which is where you’re
04:27:56 going but basically what I’m saying is
04:27:59 what we if we are righteous we tend to
04:28:04 forget about ourselves and when we let
04:28:07 the foundations of ourselves
04:28:11 crumble
04:28:12 disintegrate
04:28:15 um
04:28:16 we undermine our ability to serve our
04:28:20 own community
04:28:21 we have to take care of ourselves in
04:28:23 order to be able to take care of our
04:28:24 community and so I tend to think of it
04:28:28 as When God says how you treat the least
04:28:31 of you
04:28:33 you know when because in our in our
04:28:36 estimation if it isn’t to feed the crap
04:28:39 that destroys us
04:28:41 it tends to be well we’ll be fine and we
04:28:45 can take care of everybody else you know
04:28:47 we don’t actually really have an innate
04:28:51 drive to take care of ourselves in a
04:28:53 righteous manner you know well I I can’t
04:28:57 say too much we may have to continue
04:28:59 next time
04:29:00 um but one thing I wouldn’t say real
04:29:03 quick is that
04:29:05 to be righteous when you take care of
04:29:07 ourselves but we also need to take care
04:29:10 of others for I even see this in Italian
04:29:13 so the LDS church teaches tithing first
04:29:16 you’re selfless that’s wrong in the Old
04:29:19 Testament
04:29:20 taking care of you and your family was
04:29:23 first and tithing was last in fact
04:29:25 that’s why tithing is supposed to be off
04:29:27 a surplus in fact DNC 119 Revelation
04:29:31 from God in the doctrine Covenant says
04:29:33 Surplus Surplus is after you’ve taken
04:29:36 care of your needs that’s what you give
04:29:39 the tenth on is this so is there a
04:29:41 surplus
04:29:42 is there thank you
04:29:44 um
04:29:46 is there actual scripture talking about
04:29:48 the word increase
04:29:50 um in place of surplus
04:29:52 so uh dc119 uses increase or what DNC
04:29:57 119 uses increase and surplus
04:30:01 interchangeably okay and when you look
04:30:04 at the 1828 dictionary it helps make
04:30:08 sense of this and I can just basically
04:30:10 kind of tell you but it I don’t remember
04:30:13 which one’s which but one is a legal
04:30:15 term and I think it’s increase
04:30:18 and surplus is the general term which
04:30:20 basically means the same thing after
04:30:23 your needs are taken care of or I think
04:30:26 the technical way they say after your
04:30:28 debts are paid is what your Surplus is
04:30:31 an increase is the legal term for that
04:30:34 so right I guess
04:30:42 interest interest yeah
04:30:45 um and I guess another way of thinking
04:30:49 if your stewardship is a business
04:30:53 then the tithing should be based off of
04:30:58 the net profit
04:31:01 you know not the growth but the net
04:31:04 profit yeah the profit the net
04:31:07 um yeah on that for a business on that
04:31:10 but as a family it’s purpose
04:31:14 for a business your Surplus is your net
04:31:17 because that’s right you’ve taken care
04:31:19 of after all
04:31:21 I I I’m saying that perhaps we should
04:31:25 look at our stewardships
04:31:29 family
04:31:31 business right whatever
04:31:34 as a business and that that’s actually
04:31:38 really simplifies
04:31:40 for me at least
04:31:42 um how to define
04:31:45 tithing
04:31:46 and what I owe
04:31:49 uh well I don’t give tithing to the LDS
04:31:51 church anymore
04:31:52 um I haven’t for a long time
04:31:55 um I don’t think there’s a system up
04:31:58 that you should how it is in the
04:32:00 scriptures because I do believe we
04:32:01 should give it to priests or Levites at
04:32:04 least a portion of it for the poor but
04:32:07 there’s other things Tidings for also
04:32:09 but since I there’s not a system that I
04:32:13 trust I give support directly
04:32:15 myself I could say that all right well
04:32:20 um for the sake of your wife I bet you
04:32:23 good night it was nice meeting you Bree
04:32:26 oh it’s nice meeting you too
04:32:29 um I wanted to say I I don’t know if
04:32:32 you’ve read it lately but this is what
04:32:34 we covered before we started this
04:32:37 meeting I did with my grandchildren we
04:32:40 read Genesis
04:32:42 um
04:32:43 which is it
04:32:45 14. yeah 14. but the Joseph Smith’s
04:32:51 translation and this is interesting out
04:32:55 of the 40 years that we had gone to
04:32:59 conference you know
04:33:02 Etc we had never heard this scripture
04:33:06 read this way
04:33:09 Abraham paid
04:33:11 unto methodic
04:33:13 ties of all that he had of all the
04:33:18 riches which he possessed which God had
04:33:23 given that’s where it ends most of the
04:33:26 time okay but there’s more okay
04:33:31 God had given
04:33:33 given him more and that which he had
04:33:40 need
04:33:43 so I I gave a link for my tithing
04:33:46 Resource page and you’re going to want
04:33:48 to look at that it has that and it has
04:33:51 others also um but all so I’ll I’ll be
04:33:56 quiet but mosiah 18
04:33:59 27-29 is this well here’s the highlights
04:34:02 I have but we can go read the whole
04:34:04 thing but according to which he had and
04:34:07 to him that had not should be given on
04:34:10 own free will and good desires towards
04:34:12 men to every needy naked so and parting
04:34:17 one to another temporary it’s tithing by
04:34:21 Surplus is in the Book of Mormon too
04:34:27 um there is also another one where it
04:34:29 said and they were given
04:34:34 but it was a according to the meat and
04:34:39 wants
04:34:41 yeah
04:34:42 that changes things too the needy should
04:34:47 be given
04:34:48 some other ones I mean not other ones
04:34:50 right but some
04:34:52 they were given according to the
04:34:56 Church
04:34:58 and
04:35:00 um I’ll say here I could
04:35:03 so you know how Nelson did his what I
04:35:07 call Pride tour around the world because
04:35:09 it was all about him
04:35:10 but during his pride tour he told the
04:35:14 poor in Africa the reason they’re poor
04:35:16 is because they don’t pay tithing
04:35:20 um
04:35:21 but
04:35:22 Alma 35 I believe it is yeah Emma 35
04:35:28 uh the Nephites give a different example
04:35:31 because
04:35:32 31 32 33 34. they’re Emma in is amilic
04:35:39 are teaching poor people they were
04:35:42 kicked out of the city because they
04:35:44 accepted what Alma and emilik were
04:35:46 teaching and they they were poor they
04:35:50 had nothing and you know what
04:35:53 they gave them land they didn’t say pay
04:35:56 tithing that’ll bring you over to it
04:35:58 assistant uh being able to sustain
04:36:01 the righteous Nephites gave these poor
04:36:05 people land
04:36:08 free no death they just gave them
04:36:12 okay
04:36:14 that’s the scripture I’m talking about
04:36:17 and it says in verse 9
04:36:22 and they did administer into them
04:36:25 according to their wants so they gave
04:36:29 they nourished them they clothed them
04:36:33 they gave land to them and
04:36:37 their wants as well in there it does it
04:36:41 specifically says land I don’t know the
04:36:44 verse off top my head I’d have to go
04:36:45 find it
04:36:47 um but they gave him land
04:36:49 I didn’t teach them tithing
04:36:52 they gave them land that’s right
04:36:55 no
04:36:56 well you have to have time in order to
04:36:58 get an increase first before you can go
04:37:01 paying tithes well I don’t know it
04:37:03 depends on who you ask and because
04:37:05 someone went around teaching pay tithing
04:37:07 to get money
04:37:13 is wonderful
04:37:15 sorry
04:37:18 I think someone I mean they helped
04:37:24 to help cure Mormonism it’s rock
04:37:28 watermen
04:37:29 and
04:37:31 why have velocity or one of the posts
04:37:34 that he put together was are you paying
04:37:37 too much tithing and he goes into
04:37:41 SpongeBob
04:37:45 section 199 totally different he opened
04:37:49 my eyes
04:37:51 uh that’s the post that really woke me
04:37:55 up
04:37:55 hmm
04:37:57 yeah yeah
04:37:59 uh and I I write about this but I I
04:38:03 swore loudly inside my head when I read
04:38:06 how the LDS church changed tithing and
04:38:09 that
04:38:10 opposed in fact I had to go no that was
04:38:14 the polygamy one never mind I’m getting
04:38:16 things a little bit but
04:38:18 um I I
04:38:21 swore loudly inside my head and I didn’t
04:38:24 swear at all at that time to some degree
04:38:27 I was a what is it the Priestly Peter
04:38:31 priesthood growing up to somebody
04:38:34 I never swore or growing up and I and
04:38:38 that was like big for me to swear loudly
04:38:40 inside my head yeah I believe it because
04:38:43 of what rock wrote but I I need to get
04:38:46 going yeah so good night it was good
04:38:49 seeing you guys but uh look at the
04:38:53 tithing link I gave you I bring out some
04:38:56 other things that you might like that
04:38:58 does that have a link to the Rock
04:39:01 it does it does have a link to the
04:39:03 rocket right so I I I just copied
04:39:05 everything
04:39:07 um I’m ready to go so
04:39:09 I’ll go look up some stuff you guys have
04:39:12 a good night sure uh we’ll hopefully see
04:39:15 you next week
04:39:18 we’ll see I I I’ll try I’ll I could
04:39:22 probably I just need to work it into the
04:39:24 schedule
04:39:26 and I don’t know if I can run that long
04:39:29 if I do this on a regular basis
04:39:32 um we’re so happy to take whatever you
04:39:34 can give it’s nice to having more people
04:39:40 appreciate it
04:39:45 anyway okay I’m gonna let you go now bye
04:39:51 foreign