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Nephi had power to baptize before Yeshua’s visit. ReBaptisms in scriptures and church history. Healings. Baptism of fire is justification, Baptism of Holy Ghost is sanctification. Call out bishops on them claiming you need them to know when you are forgiven. Paul teaches Torah. Cain enacting slitting of his throat to covenant with Satan. Baptism is a WITNESS of a COVENANT already made. What is needed to have prayers answered. Expounding John 3 some. Torah is how YHWH wants us to act. Lawlessness. Yeshua was born during tabernacles. Show my app. Precepts and Lines.

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• ReBaptism
• Bishops are JUDGEs of Israel
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• Stars Testify of Yeshua and His plan
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• Precept, Line and Sermon on the Mount

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00:00:02 okay so on that that you want to say
00:00:04 that again real quick Phil I mean I mean
00:00:07 you want to call you want to call Phil
00:00:09 again real quick Ben sorry about that
00:00:11 okay
00:00:13 so the question is so the question is
00:00:16 this I already know the answer but the
00:00:18 question is
00:00:20 is there a scriptural context for
00:00:22 needing a Melchizedek priesthood baptism
00:00:26 in order to receive the baptism of fire
00:00:28 the Holy Ghost
00:00:30 uh no
00:00:33 there is not and then on top of that
00:00:36 Phil claims as part of his uh uh false
00:00:42 theology that Nephi did not have the
00:00:45 power
00:00:46 of the to give the give baptisms or the
00:00:50 gift of the Holy Ghost
00:00:53 um and he got that later
00:00:56 but that’s not true and first fourth
00:01:00 Nephi chapter one if we read this you
00:01:02 can see that the
00:01:04 big uh description of people getting
00:01:09 baptism and then getting the Holy Ghost
00:01:16 S
00:01:18 I gotta go here let me go look right
00:01:21 here first one is it first one it’s yeah
00:01:24 and it came in oh I I did it’s baptized
00:01:28 in that baptism and it came to pass that
00:01:30 the 34th year passed away and also the
00:01:33 30th and fifth so this is after
00:01:37 um after Jesus after
00:01:40 um
00:01:41 after Jesus’s appearance it is
00:01:45 oh yeah yeah okay that’s what it is
00:01:47 oh no I I want no no I’m
00:01:50 we want third Nephi one yeah it’s not
00:01:54 force Nephi oh that’s let’s go 35
00:01:56 chapter five except chapter that’s where
00:01:59 Nephi is doing his thing
00:02:02 well there’s like a couple things but
00:02:05 you could probably have that too but and
00:02:06 it came to pass that Nephi went forth
00:02:09 among the people and he and also others
00:02:11 baptizing unto repentance in which they
00:02:15 there was a great remission of sins so
00:02:18 now when does the remission of sins
00:02:21 happen
00:02:26 so that’s another thing that’s being
00:02:29 argued though is that there can be
00:02:30 multiple baptisms of fire and I would
00:02:36 be very curious to see where anybody
00:02:38 could point to that being the truth
00:02:40 because in my mind the atonement is an
00:02:43 all-encompassing one-time event not here
00:02:46 let me burn you out slowly so here’s my
00:02:49 thought on it I don’t have a scripture
00:02:51 for this this is according to Stephen
00:02:53 Retz okay
00:02:55 uh I have sinned after I’ve been
00:02:57 forgiven and I have been forgiven after
00:03:00 that
00:03:01 I would call that a baptism of Fire I do
00:03:05 not have a scriptural
00:03:07 account for that yet but that is my
00:03:09 understanding
00:03:11 and it’s fairly evident from when you
00:03:15 read the book of Mormon record that
00:03:16 re-baptism was a thing oh yeah I know I
00:03:19 can show you tons of re-baptisms and a
00:03:23 witness for re-baptism that it got
00:03:25 accepted is that you get the baptism of
00:03:27 fire and I mean I even talk about my
00:03:30 Bishop’s post and I can show you
00:03:33 uh three really direct verses from The
00:03:36 Book of Mormon that rebaptism of members
00:03:39 in good standing happens and then I have
00:03:42 lots of stuff
00:03:44 um from church history
00:03:46 uh
00:03:50 oh yeah yeah me my button pressing
00:03:54 you know I think I pressed some people’s
00:03:56 buttons though
00:04:00 um so
00:04:02 we go to my baptism Resource page
00:04:05 [Music]
00:04:06 um
00:04:07 there’s that
00:04:10 uh I show re-baptism from The Book of
00:04:14 Mormon of members in good standing
00:04:16 Alma five is a good one of that uh I
00:04:19 speak a way of commandment on you that
00:04:21 belong to the church you only belong to
00:04:25 the church after you’ve been baptized
00:04:28 to those who
00:04:30 do not belong invitation so you’re not a
00:04:35 member of church I’m inviting you if you
00:04:37 are a member of church I’m commanding
00:04:38 you
00:04:40 come and be baptized
00:04:43 unto repentance
00:04:45 that you may also be partakers of the
00:04:48 fruit of the tree life
00:04:50 so anyways uh
00:04:54 um a Moroni 6-1
00:04:57 and now I speak concerning baptism
00:04:59 behold the elders priests and teachers
00:05:01 so you only have those titles after
00:05:03 you’ve been baptized and then were set
00:05:05 apart as those callings within the
00:05:08 church which you have to be a member of
00:05:10 this could also be construed to be to
00:05:13 indicate that they were
00:05:15 baptized upon ordination
00:05:20 but they I uh
00:05:25 I don’t think so but that’s a
00:05:26 possibility it would have been right
00:05:28 after they were
00:05:30 um
00:05:31 coordinated but they were but they were
00:05:33 not baptized so they brought forth fruit
00:05:34 so I think they had fruit of those
00:05:36 titles but uh what you’re saying could
00:05:40 be
00:05:41 but these Elders priests and teachers
00:05:44 were baptized and you don’t become
00:05:46 Elders priests and teachers unless
00:05:47 you’re already baptized
00:05:53 no go ahead you have a question
00:05:56 they were
00:06:01 they were not baptized safe they brought
00:06:03 forth fruit and meat that they were
00:06:05 worthy of it and this goes back to
00:06:07 John’s statement fruit worthy of
00:06:09 repentance and so
00:06:13 this seems to indicate
00:06:16 that um
00:06:18 repentance has to be a constant part of
00:06:21 our Lives as we seek to gain power in
00:06:22 the priesthood yeah
00:06:25 that’s definitely what that’s and that’s
00:06:28 that’s a pretty safe bet on all of that
00:06:31 sure I I could go with that
00:06:34 um out of this verse
00:06:35 um
00:06:37 and then the other one that’s more
00:06:40 obvious is uh monai 8 10 which is mostly
00:06:45 about
00:06:46 um you know most people think it is uh
00:06:48 infant baptism but there’s a lot more
00:06:50 into it in that chapter than just that
00:06:52 including why Yeshua was baptized but
00:06:56 anyways behold I see unto you that this
00:06:59 thing shall ye teach repentance and
00:07:01 baptism on those who are accountable
00:07:05 gesture was accountable he could have
00:07:08 sent and capable of committing sin
00:07:10 Yeshua was Kate accountable and capable
00:07:13 of committing sin
00:07:16 under eight that’s not the case
00:07:18 yay
00:07:19 teach parents that they must repent and
00:07:22 be baptized oh wait a minute what parent
00:07:24 who hasn’t been baptized in the church
00:07:27 would be wanting their children to get
00:07:29 baptized into a church and humble
00:07:31 yourselves as their little children that
00:07:33 they should be saved with their little
00:07:35 children
00:07:36 thanks
00:07:38 uh and then here’s some more but those
00:07:41 are my three favorite ones uh as you can
00:07:44 see it’s it’s
00:07:47 that one’s yeah this this one’s more uh
00:07:51 it’s unto
00:07:53 fully preaching the Commandments and we
00:07:55 should go over that one day because the
00:07:57 symbolism of baptism is deep it really
00:08:00 is but
00:08:03 um
00:08:04 so it actually encompasses the entire
00:08:06 law
00:08:10 um
00:08:11 I actually don’t know how we should get
00:08:13 in this one time maybe even tonight when
00:08:15 you come back because I don’t know how
00:08:16 it encompasses actually I’m not leaving
00:08:18 I’m not leaving because uh they’ve
00:08:21 rescheduled the meeting this week for
00:08:22 Wednesday oh oh it was presenting
00:08:29 and I’m scheduling my presentations for
00:08:33 either Tuesday or Wednesday the weeks
00:08:35 after that so
00:08:37 well just check the calendar if you want
00:08:39 to come to these because I’m uh you know
00:08:43 my mind floats on the Gregorian
00:08:46 it’s constant on yahweh’s but it floats
00:08:49 on Gregorian but anyways yeah
00:08:51 um so maybe we can talk about the
00:08:53 bedroom stuff but anyways here’s ax
00:08:55 re-baptism revelation rebaptism
00:08:59 um
00:09:00 DNC anyways
00:09:04 um but now Joseph Smith taught it and I
00:09:07 have a lot of quotes and I don’t know if
00:09:09 you guys want to spend time looking at
00:09:10 these but I I have quite a few as you
00:09:14 can see and these are not just baptism
00:09:16 coach these are re-baptism quotes
00:09:21 um
00:09:25 just the very quote that he makes that a
00:09:28 person can be baptized a thousand times
00:09:30 but if they don’t receive the baptism of
00:09:31 the Holy Ghost it avails them nothing
00:09:34 indicates
00:09:36 that he’s fully aware that that he’s
00:09:39 fully aware that that re-baptism should
00:09:41 happen uh you know I don’t think I have
00:09:43 that quote here and that’s one I need to
00:09:44 add so that’s a good thing you brought
00:09:46 that up
00:09:47 um that’s when I need to add
00:09:50 um
00:09:53 uh
00:09:58 oh dude oops I I should show this one
00:10:01 one or was it Second Kings
00:10:04 the one about Second Kings
00:10:09 uh about uh the maggot uh being told to
00:10:12 go baptized in the Jordan River seven
00:10:15 times that’s revaptism
00:10:20 make him pure and Clean from the in from
00:10:23 the outside to the inside sure I I think
00:10:26 he may have needed it seven times just
00:10:28 to um
00:10:30 get it through his head right what was
00:10:32 going on so I’m thinking about it um you
00:10:35 know but he also it’s interesting that
00:10:37 he uses baptism
00:10:39 to cure leprosy
00:10:42 I I find it completely correct because
00:10:45 leprosy and Taurus representative sins
00:10:49 however leprosy is also a very real
00:10:52 disease yeah it is yeah but so was
00:10:57 paralysis and deafness and blindness and
00:11:02 those he forgave their sins yeah not as
00:11:09 opposed to Healing them of their
00:11:12 physical infirmities but healing them of
00:11:15 their sins was heal the physical as well
00:11:19 yeah
00:11:21 um I don’t have a verse off top my head
00:11:24 for this but I do believe when you’re
00:11:26 healed you’re all you are also forgiven
00:11:29 so if you want to get healed get
00:11:32 yourself right with God repent and then
00:11:34 ask for a blessing
00:11:35 yeah that’s a real that now that’s a
00:11:38 really that’s a really interesting thing
00:11:42 um
00:11:43 I’m glad I came here
00:11:46 um but it is I’ll have to see if I can
00:11:49 uh let’s let me check my notes real
00:11:52 quick
00:11:54 healing does not require any type of
00:11:58 repentance or remission it’s in or
00:12:03 you know following obedience to the law
00:12:08 yeah
00:12:09 which should be a very clear indicator
00:12:11 that it comes from a false or an
00:12:15 authority and it comes from the Lawless
00:12:16 one
00:12:18 yeah
00:12:19 um the Lawless one has a lot of
00:12:21 deception out there for sure
00:12:24 um so
00:12:35 uh well so this one doesn’t directly say
00:12:39 it
00:12:40 but I I think it implies it and it’s uh
00:12:45 so Moroni I’m sorry Mormon 113 but
00:12:49 wickedness did Prevail upon the face of
00:12:51 the whole land and so much that the Lord
00:12:53 or Yahweh did take away his beloved
00:12:55 disciples and the work of Miracles and
00:12:58 healing did cease because of the
00:13:00 iniquities of the people because of
00:13:02 their sinning
00:13:04 and not repenting
00:13:06 yeah you cannot heal where sin abounds
00:13:10 no yeah you you can’t well and I’ve I’ve
00:13:14 actually had personal experience with
00:13:16 that where well
00:13:19 I think about you is different than some
00:13:22 what’s that abounding is different than
00:13:25 some
00:13:26 more the point the point is is that
00:13:33 you can
00:13:36 cast out evil spirits
00:13:39 but if the but if the person that you
00:13:41 cast the evil spirit out of goes
00:13:43 directly back into the environment right
00:13:47 that is ruled by evil spirits
00:13:51 that will be as though you never never
00:13:53 cast out
00:13:54 uh sure sure
00:13:57 um
00:14:01 similar to that that talks about casting
00:14:05 out the one and seven
00:14:08 um
00:14:14 yeah
00:14:14 that’s New Testament on that one I
00:14:18 remember correctly yes it is uh
00:14:23 but
00:14:25 um so that’s the close I have for that
00:14:27 handy I I might or here maybe let me
00:14:30 check a little more because
00:14:32 part of my problem with my notes I don’t
00:14:34 always remember where everything is
00:14:39 um
00:14:39 although that’ll happen when you have a
00:14:41 lot of notes uh yeah yeah I have
00:14:44 gigabytes worth of notes I’m not kidding
00:14:47 you I have gigabytes and
00:14:51 um I I notice most things that people
00:14:58 um argue about are all pretty much the
00:15:00 same thing so most of the stuff it gets
00:15:02 used more because
00:15:05 most people can’t get past the same
00:15:07 basic things they’re just always arguing
00:15:09 about
00:15:11 simple things sorry people but get over
00:15:15 it the things that are not hard to grasp
00:15:17 no and they’re actually a lot of these
00:15:20 things are pretty clear in the
00:15:21 scriptures
00:15:23 um
00:15:25 but we don’t live by the scriptures we
00:15:28 live by quoting the prophets and
00:15:30 apostles uh we also and we also have
00:15:34 those talks and we also live by
00:15:37 spiritualizing every by spiritualizing
00:15:40 every teaching well I I even applying to
00:15:44 this to people who have awoken but have
00:15:47 not arised and there’s different and
00:15:50 those two terms have different meanings
00:15:52 to it so they’ve awoken to the awful
00:15:55 situation that they’re in but they have
00:15:56 not arose out of it they’re still in it
00:16:00 yeah they haven’t Arisen to uh you know
00:16:03 it’s uh wake up is that as Isaiah says
00:16:07 awake and arise put on thy beautiful
00:16:09 garment so Daughter of Zion
00:16:12 yeah those beautiful garments are to put
00:16:15 on those beautiful garments is to put
00:16:17 off the natural man and that’s where
00:16:19 we’re all hung up
00:16:21 well the garments are yeshua’s atonement
00:16:25 you’ll see through all the scriptures
00:16:26 especially the white garments they’re
00:16:29 about his covering
00:16:32 which happens through the atonement and
00:16:35 us being
00:16:37 uh cleansed
00:16:39 by the law and
00:16:43 purified by the law which here I’ll just
00:16:46 show you this documentation State
00:16:49 Doctrine and Covenants section 89 tells
00:16:51 us that the law
00:16:55 I hit the wrong button again read my
00:16:57 button even
00:17:00 am I going to have to fire you yeah go
00:17:03 ahead remind me to make my life a lot
00:17:06 easier
00:17:07 no sir sometimes this causes hell for me
00:17:11 [Music]
00:17:12 um
00:17:15 but that’s fine
00:17:18 um so one thing I have in this post I
00:17:21 hope to publish soon Danny is
00:17:25 if I can find it
00:17:30 uh
00:17:32 oh here we go
00:17:34 so talking about the doctor in Christ
00:17:36 The Last Action of the two initiatives
00:17:39 that we are to do is baptism immersion
00:17:43 of water
00:17:45 the first is to sincerely repent AKA
00:17:48 returning to the law tour then father
00:17:51 gives us two baptisms of fire
00:17:53 justification and baptism of the Holy
00:17:56 Ghost sanctification Bellows the Palmer
00:17:59 wrote to illustrate sorry go ahead
00:18:03 that’s that’s
00:18:06 a very important
00:18:08 distinction
00:18:09 yeah I’m gonna have to
00:18:13 Ponder on that one because that’s big
00:18:15 right there sure
00:18:17 um that’s you know I’ve always wondered
00:18:20 about this stuff too
00:18:23 um so I I remember going to the church I
00:18:27 had just come across that that term to
00:18:30 be justified
00:18:31 no it’s just just recently and it struck
00:18:35 me as being interesting then but then
00:18:38 seeing this
00:18:40 listed side by side both the
00:18:43 justification and the sanctification
00:18:47 yeah I’ll show it too one minute because
00:18:50 there’s a verse that Ben shared with me
00:18:53 a little while ago that kind of helped
00:18:56 it click for me but anyways so below is
00:18:59 a poem I wrote to illustrate along with
00:19:01 scriptures and dictionary definitions so
00:19:04 here’s my little poem I did okay and
00:19:07 look I marked the chiasm because I’m
00:19:09 chiasms on my brain but anyways when our
00:19:12 hearts change we repent and do it no
00:19:15 more when we then desire to witness that
00:19:19 to Yahweh and the World by immersion and
00:19:21 water
00:19:22 whereby the father gives us forgiveness
00:19:25 because of the marriage of the son which
00:19:28 creates as a desire in us to immerse in
00:19:32 yahweh’s law Torah which causes us to be
00:19:35 like him holy
00:19:37 which he then blesses us to know his
00:19:41 spirit and I mean that multiple ways
00:19:43 right there and then I give some verses
00:19:47 here as in the New Testament talks about
00:19:49 sanctification by the Holy Spirit uh
00:19:54 second philosians I have a hard time
00:19:56 saying that the first Peter but then
00:19:59 here’s the verse that
00:20:02 um then shared me shared with a little
00:20:04 while ago so I’ll let him share this one
00:20:06 and I put it in a chiasm because they’re
00:20:07 on my brain I see them everywhere
00:20:10 literally I see them everywhere and
00:20:13 again barely I say unto you that which
00:20:16 is governed by law is also preserved
00:20:19 justified by law and perfected and
00:20:22 Sanctified by the same
00:20:24 law that which breaks the law and
00:20:27 abideth not by law but seeketh to become
00:20:29 a law unto itself and willeth to abide
00:20:33 in sin and altogether abideth in sin
00:20:36 cannot be Sanctified by law
00:20:40 neither by Mercy judge Justice nor
00:20:43 judgment
00:20:44 therefore they must remain filthy still
00:20:48 preserved in justification
00:20:51 same thing just a different word and we
00:20:53 can all look at that I have a dictionary
00:20:54 definition the act of justifying showing
00:20:58 to be just or conformable to law because
00:21:01 you’re starting to conform right
00:21:03 rectitude or
00:21:06 priority Vindication vindication
00:21:11 defense defense well that’s what happens
00:21:14 right at the court when we’re justified
00:21:16 by Yeshua the court listened to the
00:21:18 evidence and arguments and justification
00:21:20 of the prisoner’s conduct
00:21:22 yeah we’re justified by Christ
00:21:25 are just so obedience to God’s
00:21:27 Commandments amidst no justification
00:21:30 because we’re condemned by the curse of
00:21:33 the law anyways Absolution which is
00:21:37 basically forgiveness right in the loss
00:21:39 yeah
00:21:42 in law showing off a sufficient reason
00:21:45 in court why a sufficient reason the
00:21:48 sufficient reason is what is Yeshua and
00:21:51 his merits in court why defendant did
00:21:53 what he is called to answer please
00:21:56 please and justification must be set
00:21:59 forth some special matter in theology
00:22:02 the remission of sins
00:22:05 an Absolution from guilt
00:22:08 and Punishment
00:22:10 or an act of free Grace by which God
00:22:14 pardons The Sinner accepts him as
00:22:16 righteous on account of the atonement of
00:22:19 Yeshua
00:22:21 yeah
00:22:22 sanctification
00:22:24 the act of making holy
00:22:27 so
00:22:28 distinctification so first you’re
00:22:30 forgiven and then you start down the
00:22:31 paths to become holy right
00:22:35 and in medical sense an act of God’s
00:22:37 Grace by which the affections of men are
00:22:40 purified or aligned
00:22:44 or alienated from sin oh alienated from
00:22:47 sin that’s oh I’m sorry and the world
00:22:51 and exalted the Supreme love of God and
00:22:54 how you initiate yourself from sin you
00:22:57 align yourself with Torah
00:23:00 the act of consecrating
00:23:03 are sitting apart for a sacred purpose
00:23:06 meaning
00:23:08 you’ve made yourself holy like Yahweh
00:23:11 told you to be and you do that by
00:23:13 keeping the law so Spirit we don’t need
00:23:15 to get into
00:23:17 um
00:23:20 let’s see
00:23:22 there oh
00:23:26 there’s where’s my mosiah 13 one I want
00:23:31 maybe it’s somewhere else so this gets
00:23:34 into more of that
00:23:36 um but hold on the one I’m
00:23:43 well yeah this one has
00:23:45 this kitchen to hell
00:23:47 um you make judgments by the law but the
00:23:50 one I want
00:23:52 uh
00:23:54 okay so I can find it faster in another
00:23:56 spot because I just want to play yes
00:24:02 oh man
00:24:03 well
00:24:04 I’m just trying to be effective here
00:24:07 if I hit the right button this time
00:24:11 um
00:24:17 is it possible for someone to be
00:24:22 aligned with Christ to a point
00:24:27 even where even if they didn’t know the
00:24:29 law they would keep it
00:24:32 uh yes and
00:24:36 um because you
00:24:40 so every city single nitty-gritty maybe
00:24:43 not but their overall yes okay because
00:24:47 the law is love
00:24:49 yeah and the law is just gets into the
00:24:53 nitty-gritty details of what that is
00:24:56 um so
00:24:58 uh oh here here’s right here and
00:25:02 moreover I see unto you that salvation
00:25:04 does not come by the law alone
00:25:08 meaning
00:25:09 it has a part in our Salvation AKA
00:25:12 sanctification
00:25:14 yes
00:25:15 and justification but
00:25:18 um I think more so on the sanctification
00:25:19 but yes
00:25:21 and Yeshua can’t save his inner sins he
00:25:25 saves us from our sins which means we
00:25:27 forsake them if we’re in them we’re
00:25:30 still doing them when we forsake them
00:25:32 out of them and how do we know that we
00:25:34 sin by the law yeah the law makes it
00:25:38 clear what sin is but
00:25:41 uh as Moroni 7 tells us
00:25:45 God gives his Spirit the law to all
00:25:49 mankind or as an adult because as we
00:25:53 just read a little bit from Moroni 8
00:25:55 earlier before the recording
00:25:57 children don’t have it
00:26:02 um because they’re
00:26:05 they’re not under it but anyways
00:26:07 um all adults now from children to adult
00:26:11 there’s this childhood and teenage years
00:26:14 and now this is an interesting thing
00:26:16 that I I I don’t see it directly stated
00:26:20 in the scriptures but I tend to see it
00:26:22 okay
00:26:24 um
00:26:26 when there are when they’re in our
00:26:27 father’s house and we’re obeying his
00:26:30 rules and Commandments
00:26:32 just talking about our Earthly father
00:26:35 okay
00:26:36 and we haven’t gone out of the house yet
00:26:38 because we haven’t gotten a job or
00:26:42 because we’re going to school or whatnot
00:26:43 right but
00:26:45 um but if we’re doing things as he wants
00:26:48 us to do he won’t kick us out right
00:26:52 if we’re a teenager and we’re not doing
00:26:54 what we’re supposed to uh it’s frowned
00:26:57 upon if we if the father kicks you out
00:27:00 of the house right
00:27:01 but you’ll get in some big trouble and
00:27:03 you’ll get privileges take away and
00:27:05 whatnot you’ll get punished
00:27:07 but when you become an adult
00:27:09 where you really know what’s right and
00:27:11 wrong you decide not to follow him he
00:27:14 kicks you out period
00:27:16 same thing with God’s house yahweh’s
00:27:19 house
00:27:20 there is a time that he lets you learn
00:27:23 and he’s patient with us but it comes a
00:27:26 time if you just keep sinning sinning
00:27:29 and sinning and making excuses excuses
00:27:31 excuses he’ll kick you out
00:27:33 now I can’t give you a magic equation
00:27:35 for that
00:27:37 but
00:27:38 that’s between you and God and only you
00:27:41 and him know when that is
00:27:43 no one else does yeah I would say
00:27:47 generally speaking if
00:27:50 yeah if you’re still receiving
00:27:53 communication from God and you’re still
00:27:55 being able to and you’re still feeling
00:27:57 this and you’re still
00:28:00 in his presence when you read the word
00:28:05 um
00:28:06 you have a big it’s a pretty good
00:28:08 indicator you haven’t been kicked out
00:28:09 yet uh I have mixed feelings on that and
00:28:12 I’ll tell you why uh Kane
00:28:19 yeah but then he I was trying to find it
00:28:23 real quick because he it does say
00:28:25 something to the effect of him not
00:28:28 listening anymore after that
00:28:31 yeah
00:28:33 that could be I don’t remember that let
00:28:35 me see if I can find it so we’d have to
00:28:37 go are you on the computer
00:28:40 um I’ve got the scripture app here so
00:28:42 I’m trying to okay well if you tell me
00:28:44 where that is and we can go look at that
00:28:49 it’s in Moses five I’m just trying to
00:28:52 find where that would be
00:28:55 okay
00:28:56 I’ll make it poses five uh Moses 5 26.
00:29:10 it’s hard to remember everything in fact
00:29:13 I try harder to remember principles to
00:29:16 verses but then when as you see I have
00:29:19 notes on trying to bring things out from
00:29:21 the verses
00:29:22 um I’m not perfect at it but I do try
00:29:25 I just recently read through this story
00:29:28 or else I wouldn’t have had that so
00:29:30 quick on the brain oh well that’s fine
00:29:33 that’s why we always review scriptures
00:29:34 right
00:29:36 and came with wrath unless they’re not
00:29:38 any more to the voice of Yahweh neither
00:29:40 to Abel his brother who walked in
00:29:42 Holiness before Yahweh okay so he did
00:29:45 stop listening
00:29:46 um so it was probably after
00:29:50 um
00:29:51 but you’re right even I mean he does
00:29:54 clearly
00:29:55 still hear the voice of
00:29:58 after that he does hear that but then he
00:30:02 probably hardened his heart even more
00:30:03 and then he stopped so right now
00:30:07 yeah but yeah
00:30:10 uh people will stop listening but it’s
00:30:13 their choice in fact I think even here
00:30:16 and listen not to the it’s even pointing
00:30:19 out it’s cane That’s doing it not Yahweh
00:30:21 yeah and it’s fine until verse 41 that
00:30:25 he’s actually shut out
00:30:30 okay let’s go look at that
00:30:32 and Kane was shut out from the presence
00:30:34 of Yahweh and his wife and many of his
00:30:38 brethren dwelt in the Land of Nod on the
00:30:41 East of Eden in fact
00:30:43 one thing I do
00:30:45 in my uh
00:30:48 Bishop’s post
00:30:51 um you know how LDS bring my Bishops
00:30:54 talk about how you need their help to
00:30:56 heal to hear
00:30:58 uh if you’ve been forgiven or not
00:31:01 okay so when a bishop says we need their
00:31:04 help to know if and when Yahweh way has
00:31:07 forgiven us he is questioning our
00:31:09 relationship with God which is against
00:31:11 Sermon on the Mount actually he is
00:31:13 saying we are not capable of hearing
00:31:15 God’s voice even after he has forgiven
00:31:18 us something we should remember is that
00:31:21 Cain talked with God after he slew Abel
00:31:24 which is questioning our relationship
00:31:26 with God even when we are clean
00:31:30 possibly to the point of being worse
00:31:33 than Kane’s sin this is one of the
00:31:36 things that we that once we understand
00:31:38 this idiom
00:31:40 it is saying not to do
00:31:44 laughs
00:31:46 so yeah
00:31:48 I I ripped on the Bishops right there
00:31:51 because they get they say you they we
00:31:54 need their help to know when we’re
00:31:56 forgiven but when we’re free when we’re
00:31:58 clean so why do we need their help but
00:32:00 anyways it’s interesting it’s
00:32:01 interesting the bishop that I uh the
00:32:03 bishop that I put did my uh last
00:32:06 sentence with with in the church didn’t
00:32:09 say things of that nature
00:32:12 um
00:32:13 he didn’t say anything like that oh
00:32:15 that’s good he’s probably one of the
00:32:17 better ones but Bishops do say that yeah
00:32:19 a lot of them a lot of them will
00:32:22 uh and I actually think it’s in the
00:32:25 church handbook of instructions to do
00:32:27 something along those lines
00:32:29 uh it’s an occult practice to get people
00:32:32 to
00:32:34 um tell you their sins because then they
00:32:36 can use it against you the Catholics do
00:32:38 it christian science do it and a lot of
00:32:41 the Cults do it and it’s nowhere found
00:32:44 in scriptures that we need to repent to
00:32:46 an authority we need to repent to Yahweh
00:32:50 first
00:32:51 and then second to those who we have
00:32:54 harmed in breaking the law
00:32:56 it doesn’t there’s nowhere in scriptures
00:32:58 that states that we need to go repent to
00:33:00 anybody else in fact my Bishops are
00:33:03 Israel’s posts I bring that out because
00:33:05 in there after Alma the younger younger
00:33:08 uh repents he goes around
00:33:12 the cities in repenting he wasn’t going
00:33:14 to the Bishops repenting to the Bishops
00:33:16 giving permission from the Bishops to go
00:33:18 to speak he was repenting to the people
00:33:20 on those cities that he harmed himself
00:33:25 because even all these Church teaches
00:33:27 why don’t you talk to One Bishop you’re
00:33:29 good right
00:33:31 and so
00:33:32 well to some degree right anyways they
00:33:36 may hang it over your head because
00:33:37 they’ll put it on your record and blah
00:33:39 blah blah but anyways yeah
00:33:42 I’ve ever had to if you’ve ever had to
00:33:45 confess if you’ve ever had to confess to
00:33:47 a bishop you’re not good
00:33:48 uh sure but I’m just going off what they
00:33:51 do and how Emma the younger is showing
00:33:53 different because he went around
00:33:55 confessing his sins after he was
00:33:58 forgiven he wasn’t going to Bishops he
00:34:00 was going to the people he wronged when
00:34:02 he sinned exactly exactly which is this
00:34:06 what I was saying confessed the Yahweh
00:34:09 and then the people you did it to
00:34:12 um and it’s one of the points I bring
00:34:14 out in the Bishops and do your uh do
00:34:17 your best to make restitution if you can
00:34:19 yeah uh do the best and that’s
00:34:22 what Alma was doing after he in fact he
00:34:27 didn’t do it before he was forgiven he
00:34:30 did it after
00:34:32 yeah so yeah repentance is one of those
00:34:35 things that actually it’s probably one
00:34:38 of the most misunderstood things in
00:34:41 Scripture
00:34:43 uh
00:34:44 uh yes I I would tend to agree with that
00:34:49 um because it seems like most Christian
00:34:51 churches have all these steps for it
00:34:55 oh yeah you can you can formulate it you
00:34:58 can formulize anything
00:35:00 well they they everybody does
00:35:04 but as I see it especially also Enos
00:35:09 right from The Book of Mormon
00:35:11 or was he when he repented
00:35:15 in the woods yeah
00:35:17 it’s interesting he was out hunting with
00:35:20 bows and arrows bows and arrows
00:35:21 represent Torah I don’t think it was
00:35:24 accident that he was bringing that up
00:35:26 when he was talking about the event
00:35:31 um anyways I see a lot of connections
00:35:34 but the main thing is he was alone
00:35:38 he repented
00:35:40 and I don’t think the repent it was
00:35:41 because he prayed for hours on end like
00:35:44 some people are claiming
00:35:46 it was just it took him that long to
00:35:49 really get to the point
00:35:51 or his heart changed
00:35:54 and then he went to God
00:35:56 well I think that um
00:35:59 foreign I think the prayer I think the
00:36:03 prayer as long as long as we’re in
00:36:05 connection to Our Father in Heaven
00:36:07 prayer can actually be a great changer
00:36:09 of the heart
00:36:11 yeah because
00:36:13 um you know it’s uh
00:36:16 and we may think that our hearts are
00:36:18 right before God and that we need that
00:36:21 are that that we don’t have a whole lot
00:36:23 to repent of
00:36:25 but God knows
00:36:28 yeah and I I mean I try to have
00:36:34 things right but I also know
00:36:39 what scriptures say about our heart and
00:36:43 it’s not
00:36:46 positive
00:36:48 all right yeah
00:36:50 um so
00:36:51 if somebody says trust your hearts I I
00:36:54 really question that
00:36:57 um well because your heart’s a liar yeah
00:37:02 unless it’s been made into the heart of
00:37:04 unless it’s been made into the heart of
00:37:06 going
00:37:07 yes
00:37:09 um but that’s few and far in between
00:37:11 yeah so it’s that’s
00:37:15 not something we rely on and even then
00:37:17 those who have that heart guess what
00:37:20 they’re always checking it to Torah yeah
00:37:24 um they’re they’re still not relying on
00:37:26 their own heart because they know they
00:37:29 have errors and so they check it to
00:37:31 yahweh’s word instructions
00:37:34 um so
00:37:36 they still don’t trust their own heart
00:37:41 I I mean I’ll be honest God gives me
00:37:43 things and I go check it
00:37:46 because I know Revelation comes from
00:37:48 three sources
00:37:49 Yahweh Satan and man
00:37:52 including myself and
00:37:55 I I’ve
00:37:57 I could almost trick myself into some
00:37:59 things so I I’ve done it myself
00:38:03 um so you have to be careful yeah you
00:38:06 have to check it with the scriptures
00:38:09 well yeah we can we can and we can get
00:38:11 ahead of ourselves
00:38:13 yeah yes yes I’ve done that too I bet
00:38:19 we can get ahead of ourselves we can
00:38:21 forget particular
00:38:25 when we get excited about one principle
00:38:29 we can forget others
00:38:32 and it happens yeah and that’s why we
00:38:35 should uh have the body and check with
00:38:37 each other and be open to being checked
00:38:41 so
00:38:44 but yeah uh that’s what the body is for
00:38:47 to help make sure we’re all here and
00:38:49 it’s interesting referring to that
00:38:51 Joseph Smith Let the church put him in a
00:38:55 church court because he knew that
00:38:57 principle I mean he was found innocent
00:39:00 but instead of design denying the
00:39:02 principle
00:39:03 he did the church court and he was found
00:39:05 innocent where the leaders today won’t
00:39:08 do that well in the LDS church and
00:39:11 pretty much every mainstream church
00:39:12 right they won’t no they’re they’re
00:39:15 above they’re Above the Law well they’re
00:39:17 a law unto themselves
00:39:19 is what’s happened which is which is sad
00:39:24 because it
00:39:25 it leads away many
00:39:29 people that would otherwise accept the
00:39:31 truth
00:39:32 um as in second Nephi 28 brings out
00:39:36 um let’s see I’ll go show that
00:39:40 well and it makes me think too when
00:39:42 Christ says that at the end he’ll he
00:39:47 will say you never knew me
00:39:50 because they never knew his law
00:39:53 right well
00:39:55 the more you know the law the more you
00:39:57 know Christ because that’s the law
00:40:00 represents who he is it’s the law the
00:40:04 law came out of his heart yeah it’s
00:40:08 it’s the law is codifying his behavior
00:40:12 and you recognize people by their
00:40:14 behavior so
00:40:19 when people when people say uh God knows
00:40:23 my heart but I generally tend to tell
00:40:26 them
00:40:27 of course she knows your heart he can
00:40:29 see what you do yeah and it’s wicked
00:40:36 gosh I know people will say that and I’m
00:40:39 you’re laughing because you know what
00:40:41 fits but anyways here’s the one that I
00:40:43 was saying second Nephi 28. they wear
00:40:46 stiff necks and high heads
00:40:48 uh so a high hedge is because of the
00:40:50 high necks but anyways
00:40:52 um yeah if your next step it’s pretty
00:40:54 hard to lower it the lower it yeah but I
00:40:58 I know one time I was mentioning how E.T
00:41:00 is Satan guess what he thought oh Nick
00:41:04 super stiff neck yeah anyway yeah
00:41:07 because of Pride and wickedness and
00:41:09 Abominations and whoredoms
00:41:11 they have all gone astray save it a few
00:41:14 who are The Humble followers of Christ
00:41:16 nonetheless these few are LED that in
00:41:20 many instances they do air because they
00:41:22 are taught by the precepts of men so
00:41:25 although there are humble followers of
00:41:27 Christ
00:41:28 they’re still getting some deceived
00:41:30 because of the preachers that they’re
00:41:32 following and not knowing any better
00:41:35 and unfortunately it will cause them to
00:41:38 draw near him with their lips and not
00:41:41 their hearts because they are the false
00:41:43 false teachers so if they stay with the
00:41:45 false teachers too long yeah they’ll
00:41:47 they’ll start the other thing the other
00:41:49 thing is is that these um
00:41:52 it’ll also it’ll also cause a it’ll also
00:41:56 cause a stiffer test for these humble
00:41:58 followers who have a hard time
00:42:00 separating from growth leaders yeah
00:42:04 um because the law will become a
00:42:05 stumbling block for them because instead
00:42:08 of wanting to keep it they’ll stumble
00:42:11 because they just know that other leader
00:42:13 is righteous that told them not to do it
00:42:14 so they’ll stumble it
00:42:16 yeah we we all know we all know of the
00:42:20 righteous of uh love the righteousness
00:42:21 of Russell animals
00:42:23 uh I don’t know about you but when I you
00:42:26 know the pictures
00:42:27 I
00:42:29 the uh the marketing department has a
00:42:33 really hard time picking good pictures
00:42:34 of him because the pictures they pick
00:42:37 really make him look evil to me and
00:42:39 sometimes makes me think of
00:42:42 Homer Simpson’s boss which is oh totally
00:42:46 totally 100 Mr Burns yeah Mr Burns okay
00:42:50 maybe it’s because he burns in hell
00:42:56 because of priest crafts
00:42:59 um which is mentioned in this chapter
00:43:01 just you know even
00:43:03 in that chapter second Nephi 28 right
00:43:05 but anyways and iniquities
00:43:07 right because they’re because they’re
00:43:09 airing okay at Jerusalem and everywhere
00:43:12 stiff in their necks which we just
00:43:14 talked about against him oh I should
00:43:17 make that Capital H
00:43:19 that that he be crucified
00:43:26 and
00:43:26 I think it’s
00:43:28 DNC it talks about how
00:43:31 um you know if we reject him we make it
00:43:34 we crucify him again I
00:43:37 I don’t remember that I think that’s
00:43:39 actually
00:43:43 I think that maybe in the New Testament
00:43:44 is it well it’s somewhere
00:43:48 some things I’m not the scholar that I
00:43:50 need to be but anyways
00:43:54 it it’s hard to remember reverse for
00:43:57 everything
00:43:59 um but you know what we can go search it
00:44:01 yeah
00:44:04 um
00:44:17 it’s probably a good search some
00:44:21 uh
00:44:23 uh so Hebrews six six looks like it is
00:44:27 saying that
00:44:29 yeah yeah
00:44:33 that’s that’s what I was thinking of and
00:44:36 see
00:44:37 because
00:44:39 if there’s a book in if there is a book
00:44:43 in the New Testament that has an answer
00:44:45 for almost every question related to The
00:44:48 Gospel of Jesus Christ it’s the book of
00:44:51 Hebrews Hebrews does have a lot
00:44:54 and it has a lot about how the law of
00:44:59 Moses is done with too when you read it
00:45:00 correctly
00:45:02 um but anyways that’s much better well
00:45:05 that’s the thing with Paul
00:45:09 you have to know
00:45:11 what law he’s talking about yes yeah and
00:45:16 context helps with that yeah you have to
00:45:20 know what law he’s talking about
00:45:21 otherwise you’re going to get lost
00:45:24 in the law speech yeah because he has
00:45:27 lots of laws
00:45:31 I I don’t know why he like to separate
00:45:33 him so much but I’m I’m sure he had his
00:45:36 reasons
00:45:37 um
00:45:38 and then there’s also a bad translation
00:45:41 where the oral law is translated as law
00:45:44 also which right is it even more
00:45:47 confusing
00:45:50 oh yeah I I think there are at least
00:45:54 seven different laws that he refers to
00:45:58 in his writings
00:46:00 yeah that’s I don’t have all things
00:46:03 including the world including the oral
00:46:07 traditions
00:46:09 um
00:46:11 and those are the ones he’s most skating
00:46:14 against
00:46:15 uh yeah
00:46:17 but if you don’t know that
00:46:20 he’ll fight against it but here’s
00:46:24 well and you’ll and you’ll and you’ll
00:46:26 make this silly mistake of saying that
00:46:28 Paul was against law yeah but so here’s
00:46:32 a picture someone else made that I
00:46:33 harvested
00:46:35 but it it shows the different Greek
00:46:38 words for the different laws
00:46:42 so
00:46:43 anyways
00:46:51 but
00:46:52 yeah there’s different laws and part of
00:46:56 the problem with English translations
00:46:57 it’s doesn’t come out very
00:47:01 yeah easily
00:47:03 on purpose or accident there’s probably
00:47:05 a mixture of both to be honest
00:47:08 well I do think um
00:47:12 I do think that um the New Testament was
00:47:15 definitely gone over with a fine-tooth
00:47:17 comb
00:47:19 at uh the various councils that brought
00:47:23 up the formulated the doctrine of the uh
00:47:27 um Trinity nascent Catholic Church yeah
00:47:31 um well part of them that were on the
00:47:33 committee was were
00:47:35 Masons which were controlled by Jesuits
00:47:38 which are controlled by the
00:47:40 Pope so
00:47:42 um well I
00:47:44 Mason’s that old
00:47:46 that’s a question I think that’s a valid
00:47:49 question because there’s so many
00:47:51 different uh origin stories
00:47:54 sure I hear what you’re saying I tend to
00:47:57 believe they are but yeah there’s not
00:48:00 consistent origin stories but I think
00:48:02 that’s on purpose
00:48:03 that one of their techniques is
00:48:07 to put misleading things out there
00:48:10 well if they’re that old then the Masons
00:48:13 are actually older than the Catholic
00:48:15 Church
00:48:16 uh the ceremonies yes for sure because
00:48:20 they have a very ancient and date
00:48:22 because there’s
00:48:24 uh things in Egypt
00:48:27 and their things that are left over that
00:48:30 match the Sonic
00:48:33 well I think if the things of the
00:48:37 gadiantons had been written we’d find
00:48:39 several similarities there as well oh I
00:48:42 agree with you yeah yeah in fact
00:48:45 um let’s see let’s go to one in Moses
00:48:48 you might be able to tell me where it is
00:48:49 sooner than I can but uh slitting the
00:48:52 throat do you know that one off top of
00:48:53 your head Danny since you’re just
00:48:54 reading there
00:48:56 um he actually mentions it where we just
00:48:59 were previously in Moses five he makes
00:49:03 sense yes
00:49:08 the Moses five
00:49:15 [Music]
00:49:20 oh wait are there 29 Moses 5 29. yep yep
00:49:25 and Satan said unto Cain swear onto me
00:49:28 by thy throat
00:49:30 which is a mason
00:49:33 yeah well look oh
00:49:35 it started at the beginning with Adam I
00:49:39 mean during Adam’s time that’s better
00:49:40 well that tells you where that came from
00:49:42 and the brighamite uh endowment ceremony
00:49:44 see and that’s why I’ve kind of done
00:49:47 away with even trying to label things
00:49:50 with Jesuits or Illuminati or
00:49:57 and like it all it tells you right here
00:50:01 what it is in verse 31 I am Mahan the
00:50:06 master of this secret so you have the
00:50:09 order of mayhand gets established right
00:50:11 here and everything that’s ever happened
00:50:12 has been order of mayhand since yeah
00:50:16 Kane which she got from Satan and it’s
00:50:19 all been a fun hour so I can understand
00:50:20 where you’re coming from and I’m just
00:50:22 maybe using more modern terms but yeah
00:50:24 oh yeah but I mean yeah so the the
00:50:28 Masons I mean the regardless of how long
00:50:32 the Freemasons Guild has actually been
00:50:35 active like I’m sure you could trace
00:50:38 that back quite a bit further because
00:50:39 when you get down to it it’s all just
00:50:42 that order of mayhand which I see as
00:50:45 being Satan’s counterfeit for the holy
00:50:48 order of God sure sure and even the uh
00:50:52 Freemasons even today admit that they a
00:50:56 or they this might be a better way they
00:50:58 claim they get it from a stone that
00:51:01 someone did Before the Flood meaning
00:51:04 it’s it’s ancient right we’re not gonna
00:51:06 say ancient back down day yeah
00:51:10 um it makes sense
00:51:11 I you know people will talk about the
00:51:13 endowment
00:51:15 and but when I mentioned this verse
00:51:18 right here they get all mad at me
00:51:22 because that’s exactly what they’re
00:51:24 doing where it says that you’re that
00:51:26 your father will not know it
00:51:28 well I mean 29 but
00:51:31 um worries flirting of the throat but
00:51:35 yeah if you read down further it says
00:51:36 and this that thy father may not know it
00:51:39 sure uh hiding uh covenants from your
00:51:42 father is against Torah
00:51:45 um especially if you’re still in his
00:51:47 household
00:51:48 um so well this day I will deliver thy
00:51:52 brother Abel into thine hands
00:51:55 well
00:51:57 um but anyways
00:51:59 even though the the LDS church took this
00:52:02 out of the temple ceremony it’s still in
00:52:06 uh
00:52:08 the hand signs I forget
00:52:11 is the token is that what it anyways
00:52:13 it’s been a while it’s been it’s in the
00:52:16 signs and tokens signs yeah it’s in the
00:52:18 signs and the tokens still it’s alluded
00:52:20 to there
00:52:21 um
00:52:22 but oh I remember how because you’re
00:52:24 supposed to do it with your thumb and
00:52:26 you’re sticking your thumb out yeah it’s
00:52:28 funny they try to be so secret about it
00:52:30 but when you go look at
00:52:31 um Eastern religion statues
00:52:34 they’re right there for everybody to see
00:52:37 well even same stuff
00:52:40 um the one Palm up one Palm down that I
00:52:44 mean that might might actually be
00:52:46 esoteric and have its Origins somewhere
00:52:49 else but that one has been manipulated
00:52:51 and used again and again and again
00:52:55 statues a lot it’s as above so below
00:52:59 that is the time
00:53:04 well and in the new age they teach it to
00:53:07 you as like one hand is receiving so
00:53:11 that the other hand can give but I mean
00:53:15 where are you receiving from oh yeah
00:53:18 we’re I mean I did new age for a little
00:53:20 bit and I didn’t get that from there so
00:53:21 it makes me wonder where you go at the
00:53:23 new age but new age is just the occult
00:53:27 making I did Reiki and Crystal healing
00:53:32 and the guy that taught me Reiki was
00:53:36 kind of into a bunch of things so I
00:53:38 don’t even know what well he must have
00:53:40 got it from somewhere else because that
00:53:42 I mean I know at least I thought at
00:53:45 least I think I know what Reiki is and
00:53:47 that’s basically Just Energy healing
00:53:49 yeah yeah I I’ve had it done to me
00:53:52 before I really woke up to Torah when I
00:53:55 had it I was starting to but not fully
00:53:59 um anyways it’s been a
00:54:01 uh yeah I’ve been going down the path I
00:54:04 still am I still don’t have it all
00:54:05 figured out
00:54:07 um but I I never
00:54:10 of course I didn’t go into their
00:54:11 teachings but anyways because I just I
00:54:15 never got that with that new way that I
00:54:17 was in anytime I have to look because I
00:54:20 think that might even be in one of my
00:54:22 books too that teaches you like you have
00:54:25 one hand that’s predominantly your
00:54:27 receiving hand and then one hand that’s
00:54:30 the giving hand
00:54:32 well and here here’s the thing anytime
00:54:35 that the
00:54:37 signs the tokens
00:54:39 the um
00:54:42 symbols
00:54:44 and the uh
00:54:48 when those become the four models the
00:54:50 front the center you know you’re not
00:54:52 dealing with God
00:54:54 I’m not sure well
00:54:56 um
00:54:58 the covenants I know with God are always
00:55:01 covenanting to keep all his Commandments
00:55:03 not just this one or that one
00:55:06 um baptism all your Commandments
00:55:08 Sacrament which actually is a renewal
00:55:12 of a country
00:55:14 when I when you get baptized you’re only
00:55:16 promising to keep the Commandments that
00:55:18 he gives to you personally okay that’s
00:55:21 that’s just the way it is
00:55:23 okay but he okay so if that’s the case
00:55:26 let’s just look at that
00:55:28 to his law as a Ben’s haircut a little
00:55:32 bit
00:55:34 Ben’s repeating other people he’s Ben’s
00:55:38 repeating false teachers here
00:55:41 um so let’s look at that false teaching
00:55:44 for a minute you’re just on the path
00:55:46 that means he hasn’t given you God has
00:55:49 not given you any personal Commandments
00:55:51 yet so you’re covenanting to keep no
00:55:52 Commandments that makes no sense
00:55:55 right
00:55:57 because he even you know was it second
00:56:00 Nephi 32 or is it 31 one of those two
00:56:03 sometimes I get those two mixed up a
00:56:06 little bit because they’re kind of they
00:56:07 go together so well but you’re supposed
00:56:09 to like pray and pray and pray until you
00:56:11 receive one
00:56:14 oh yeah that’s that’s sounds more like
00:56:16 you’re forcing God than letting him do
00:56:19 things according his plan
00:56:23 but what do I know
00:56:26 no uh
00:56:31 well what I
00:56:34 one of the things that I the law is a
00:56:39 the law is a very rich place from which
00:56:42 we can get personal revelation
00:56:44 oh yeah
00:56:46 um
00:56:47 yeah there’s a lot more in the law than
00:56:50 people give credit and occasionally I’ll
00:56:54 share insights on that that God has
00:56:56 given me himself so
00:57:00 um but I got him because I strive to
00:57:03 keep the law not because I’m making
00:57:05 excuses why I don’t have to
00:57:08 um because I’m not perfect in it but I
00:57:11 do strive like Nephi strove to keep it
00:57:14 um
00:57:15 part of my problem is I I grew up being
00:57:18 taught it was nailed at the cross so I I
00:57:20 didn’t study it right so but anyways I
00:57:23 do now and I work at it
00:57:25 but
00:57:27 um
00:57:28 real quick let me just show
00:57:33 um
00:57:33 a post I’m working on that deals with
00:57:36 just the Covenants
00:57:38 issue real quick
00:57:41 um you’ll never hear me say that I need
00:57:44 to finish one
00:57:48 but all the all those posts all those
00:57:51 posts that you uh
00:57:53 that you have absolutely finished and
00:57:55 you have nothing else to do with them
00:57:57 and uh you know those ones are ones that
00:58:00 I’ve started in WordPress I have more in
00:58:02 my OneNote that I haven’t
00:58:07 um so this is my favorite verse on this
00:58:10 was I 18 10. now I say unto you if this
00:58:14 be desire of your hearts what have you
00:58:16 against being baptized in the name of
00:58:20 the Lord
00:58:21 Yahweh as a witness
00:58:25 or as a testimony or a sign well this is
00:58:31 this is also highlighting
00:58:34 um the fact that baptism is how we call
00:58:36 upon the name of the Lord
00:58:41 um well it’s how we get into his church
00:58:44 is or you say a little more what you
00:58:46 mean
00:58:48 um calling on the name of the Lord is
00:58:50 not just prayer
00:58:54 okay there because uh I’m pretty sure
00:58:59 that after uh
00:59:01 pretty sure that after Paul had his
00:59:03 experience
00:59:07 uh on the road to Damascus he spent a
00:59:09 lot of time praying
00:59:11 yeah yeah but it was stated that he had
00:59:13 not called upon the name of the Lord
00:59:15 until he was baptized
00:59:18 hmm do you have a verse about because I
00:59:21 want to look for that app look at that
00:59:22 after
00:59:23 um
00:59:25 let me finish this
00:59:27 um but that’s
00:59:28 you know in
00:59:31 I can agree with that and I’ll tell you
00:59:32 why in a minute after you find your
00:59:33 verse I’ll show you some verses myself
00:59:35 that I’ve I’ve shared so I I can I can
00:59:38 kind of see that anyways as a witness
00:59:41 before him
00:59:43 or a sign that you have entered into a
00:59:46 covenant already with him that you will
00:59:50 serve and keep his Commandments that ye
00:59:52 may pour out his Spirit more abundantly
00:59:55 poor upon you so this has a lot of stuff
00:59:58 baptism is a witness of a covenant
01:00:00 you’ve already made
01:00:01 and that he will pour out his Spirit
01:00:04 more abundantly meaning it was
01:00:05 abundantly before that
01:00:09 um and then I start getting in I need to
01:00:11 finish this post
01:00:13 but then I’d show how the LDS church
01:00:14 contradicts it and I start getting to
01:00:16 other stuff but anyways
01:00:18 um
01:00:19 so let me get some verses that I
01:00:22 believe will go along with what
01:00:25 been
01:00:26 mentioned
01:00:31 um
01:00:33 yeah
01:00:34 so while Ben’s still looking
01:00:38 and so we’ll have to look at the context
01:00:40 of his but these go along with it I
01:00:42 would say
01:00:43 uh especially these last twos we can
01:00:46 look at the other ones but Proverbs 8 28
01:00:49 9 he that turneth his ear away from
01:00:53 hearing the Torah even his prayer shall
01:00:55 be in abomination
01:00:59 just praying is not going to do anything
01:01:02 you
01:01:04 if you’re going against yahweh’s Kingdom
01:01:07 which is
01:01:09 based or governed by the law
01:01:12 so if you’re going against the law which
01:01:14 the kingdom is based upon
01:01:16 you’re going against the kingdom
01:01:18 even his prayer shall be an abomination
01:01:23 second chronicles 7 14 If my people
01:01:25 which are called by my name shall humble
01:01:28 themselves pray and seek my face and
01:01:30 turn from their Wicked Ways which means
01:01:33 they’re returning to Torah because
01:01:35 that’s saying repent and repenting is
01:01:38 returning to Torah then I will hear from
01:01:40 heaven and will heal their land
01:01:44 uh these ones in mosiah I believe are
01:01:47 mostly about helping out the poor but we
01:01:50 can check
01:01:51 and it shall come to pass that they
01:01:52 shall cry unto me I will be slow to hear
01:01:55 their cries
01:01:56 I will suffer them but they will be
01:01:59 Smitten by their enemies and except they
01:02:01 repent so here’s repent return to law
01:02:04 and sackcloth and Ashes
01:02:08 and cry mightily into the Yahweh their
01:02:11 God I will not hear their prayers
01:02:13 neither will I
01:02:15 deliver them out of their afflictions
01:02:17 and thus saith Yahweh thus hath he
01:02:21 command me oh that was not about
01:02:23 um poor so basically unless you repent
01:02:25 return to the law I won’t hear your
01:02:27 prayers
01:02:29 um and there I’m starting to see chiism
01:02:31 there but anyways I have chiasms on the
01:02:34 brain
01:02:34 Messiah 21 15 and Yahweh was slow to
01:02:38 hear their cries because they’re their
01:02:39 iniquities
01:02:41 nonetheless the Yahweh did hear their
01:02:43 cries and began to soften the hearts of
01:02:46 the lamanites that they began to ease
01:02:48 their burdens yet the Lord did see fit
01:02:50 to deliver them out of bondage okay so
01:02:52 my poor ones must be in a different spot
01:02:54 because those ones had nothing to do
01:02:55 with the poor so I remembered my notes
01:02:57 wrong oops
01:03:01 did you find your verse
01:03:03 I’m I’m in the middle of the actual
01:03:07 because I think there’s a point in his
01:03:12 I mean there’s ins there’s stuff in here
01:03:15 there’s stuff in the actual account of
01:03:17 the actual event and acts that actually
01:03:20 indicate that the prayer was not enough
01:03:22 for us all to receive the miracle that
01:03:24 he had seen
01:03:27 so I know Paul talks about that event at
01:03:31 least twice in Acts I think it’s only
01:03:33 two I don’t remember which chapters
01:03:35 though I yeah I’ve got the act right now
01:03:39 I’ve got the actual
01:03:40 I’ve got the actual occurrence the solar
01:03:44 Paul talking about it but just the
01:03:46 actual actual event
01:03:48 act nine
01:03:50 okay
01:03:52 um
01:03:52 and what you’re bringing up might be
01:03:55 about him regulating it later because he
01:03:59 disappeared for a while and then came
01:04:01 back right
01:04:03 I I I don’t know if this is true but
01:04:05 I’ve heard for three and a half years we
01:04:08 went away and then he went to Mount
01:04:09 Sinai I I don’t know how much that is
01:04:12 scriptural versus
01:04:14 urban legend legend but kind of like the
01:04:17 fact kind of like the idea
01:04:20 that the event at Mount Sinai and the
01:04:24 event at uh in the event at Pentecost
01:04:27 we’re actually absolutely pretty much
01:04:31 the same carbon copies of each other
01:04:33 that’s kind of
01:04:36 um there’s similarities but um there was
01:04:39 fire at Mount Sinai there wasn’t literal
01:04:42 fire at Pentecost and acts because
01:04:45 Pentecost is a holiday right well
01:04:49 Pentecost is actually the holidays
01:04:50 celebrating when they receive the
01:04:52 Commandments right which is when it
01:04:54 happened
01:04:56 and that’s when Acts 2 happened was on
01:04:59 that holiday too and there’s a lot next
01:05:02 a lot of connections that’s when uh
01:05:06 uh Sermon on the Mount was given Matthew
01:05:08 five through seven and that’s also when
01:05:11 uh 35
01:05:13 11 12 13 14 15 and Beyond happened was
01:05:18 Pentecost
01:05:20 um
01:05:21 if that
01:05:23 the reason the
01:05:25 you know the fire
01:05:27 on the outside I happen because it
01:05:29 yahweh’s presence what had happened in
01:05:32 3511
01:05:34 yahweh’s presence
01:05:36 yeah there’s a lot of connections but
01:05:39 yeah and yeah that’s something that was
01:05:42 going on going on for me earlier today
01:05:44 was drawing connections between that act
01:05:46 between Sinai Acts 2 and and uh Christ’s
01:05:51 appearance
01:05:52 yeah and it wasn’t by accident the
01:05:55 people were going to the temple at that
01:05:57 time because
01:05:58 that’s a commanded time to go to the
01:06:00 temple mm-hmm
01:06:02 and that is one evidence that they were
01:06:07 practicing for us they’re yeah after the
01:06:10 resurrection and
01:06:12 if Yahweh didn’t want them to keep the
01:06:15 Commandments or Torah after the
01:06:16 resurrection why did he come when he
01:06:18 told them to come in Torah that’d be
01:06:21 pretty confusing whether or not you
01:06:23 listened to General Conference this last
01:06:26 weekend of course he would have appeared
01:06:28 to the temple because that’s the house
01:06:31 of the Lord yeah so the temples in the
01:06:34 Book of Mormon are way different than
01:06:36 LDS temples and we can get in that now
01:06:38 if you want but I know you agree with me
01:06:40 oh absolutely 100 yes yeah I I saw mean
01:06:45 on that today though
01:06:47 I’ve kind of been doing more of a study
01:06:52 recently on on the temple and the
01:06:56 Covenant
01:06:57 as it actually is in scripture versus
01:07:00 how it’s currently being taught so uh
01:07:05 yeah the stuff at the temple or animal
01:07:07 sacrifices
01:07:09 and
01:07:10 I I it’s gonna continue and I can show
01:07:13 that from Joseph Smith and from the Old
01:07:16 Testament
01:07:18 um and I have a
01:07:20 post almost done on that I have a few
01:07:22 more things I need to do but I’m
01:07:24 sidetracked on this other one right now
01:07:25 and I can show you stuff from it the the
01:07:28 sacrifices animal sacrifices are not
01:07:31 done away with
01:07:33 the law of Moses sacrifices are done
01:07:36 away with but anyways
01:07:39 a lot of people conflate Torah and Allah
01:07:43 Moses together and that’s I think is a
01:07:45 big argument between the Jews and the
01:07:47 Christians
01:07:49 because they both think that they’re the
01:07:51 same thing and they’re different
01:07:54 and once you realize they’re different
01:07:56 it makes scriptures a lot more clear but
01:07:58 anyways
01:08:01 yeah
01:08:03 so did you find that the verse with Paul
01:08:05 well I what I what I can
01:08:09 let’s see
01:08:11 um
01:08:14 you can start in verse 11.
01:08:18 so I mean I showed somewhere it kind of
01:08:21 goes along with it but not completely
01:08:23 right yeah
01:08:25 um
01:08:26 there’s a certain disciple at Damascus
01:08:28 named ananias and to him said the Lord
01:08:31 in a vision ananias and he said behold I
01:08:34 am here Lord and the Lord said unto him
01:08:35 arise and go into the street that is
01:08:38 called straight that’s interesting
01:08:41 oh yeah what is that
01:08:43 that’s Torah yep
01:08:48 an Inquirer in the house of Judas for
01:08:51 one name for one called Saul of Tarsus
01:08:54 for behold he prayeth
01:08:56 Paul was praying he was praying in faith
01:08:59 wasn’t enough to restore his sight
01:09:02 and a scene efficient in a vision a man
01:09:05 named ananias coming in putting his hand
01:09:07 on him that he might receive his sight
01:09:09 the nananas answered Lord I’ve heard
01:09:12 many I’ve heard by many of this man how
01:09:16 much evil he hath done to thy Saints of
01:09:17 Jerusalem and here he has Authority from
01:09:20 the chief priests to bind all the call
01:09:22 on thy name
01:09:24 the Lord said unto him go thy way for he
01:09:28 is a chosen vessel unto me to Bear my
01:09:30 name before the Gentiles and Kings
01:09:32 children of Israel and up for I will
01:09:34 show him how great things he must suffer
01:09:36 from my name’s sake mananias went his
01:09:39 way and entered into the house and
01:09:41 putting his hands on him he said brother
01:09:43 Saul the Lord even Jesus that appeared
01:09:47 unto me in the that appeared unto me in
01:09:49 the way as thou game is has sent me that
01:09:52 thou mightest receive thy sight be
01:09:54 filled with the Holy Ghost and
01:09:56 immediately there fell from his eyes as
01:09:57 it had been scales he received psych
01:10:00 work with in a rose was baptized like it
01:10:02 was almost like
01:10:08 that he will
01:10:14 take that he in the exchange for his
01:10:18 sight he will be baptized
01:10:20 right well here what I get is that
01:10:24 Paul’s heart changed and so now uh his
01:10:27 prayers are being answered and as soon
01:10:30 as he could he was then baptized which
01:10:33 baptism is a witness to that you’ve
01:10:36 Covenant to keep his Commandments
01:10:38 [Music]
01:10:40 so I would say uh
01:10:44 Paul’s prayers were answered before and
01:10:47 this was probably the first one that got
01:10:49 answered but he was praying
01:10:51 before he was baptized yeah but but yeah
01:10:57 but uh his prayer alone was not enough
01:11:00 to restore his sight no he he needed
01:11:03 someone to go help him
01:11:05 um in fact you’ll see Miracles are never
01:11:09 done for yourself
01:11:12 right a true follower of Yeshua and
01:11:17 Yeshua himself never did a miracle for
01:11:19 himself it was always for others
01:11:22 yeah that’s one of the things that
01:11:24 actually they okay that’s one of the
01:11:26 things they mocked him for
01:11:29 yeah
01:11:30 uh Miracles were in
01:11:33 were for others not himself
01:11:36 um
01:11:37 which to me makes sense um
01:11:40 and so there’s all these Pretenders out
01:11:43 there claiming they’re doing Miracles
01:11:45 and that’s for stuff for themselves you
01:11:47 could it’s pretty simple to
01:11:50 believe that they’re they’re not true
01:11:53 but anyways
01:11:54 there’s a lot of Pretenders out there
01:11:56 but
01:11:58 so I don’t think this is quite saying
01:12:01 what you were saying
01:12:03 yeah well that means
01:12:07 yeah fair enough
01:12:11 but I do think it it does show that it
01:12:14 wasn’t until Paul’s heart changed his
01:12:17 prayers were answered
01:12:18 and I honestly believe
01:12:21 that people having problems answering
01:12:23 getting answers to the prayers
01:12:27 it’s because their hearts not to keep
01:12:30 the law
01:12:31 well you know that’s one of the
01:12:33 interesting things that I found
01:12:39 is that by teaching the law
01:12:42 by teaching people the law of
01:12:46 and how to keep the and keeping the
01:12:48 Commandments
01:12:50 thank you
01:12:51 it opens up the world to them in terms
01:12:54 of their personal revelation
01:12:56 yeah uh I’ve seen people who are angry
01:13:02 to
01:13:05 um
01:13:06 oh Danny’s gotta leave okay Danny take
01:13:09 care
01:13:10 um
01:13:11 yeah I’ve seen people go from
01:13:14 being really angry to letting go when
01:13:18 they’ve been showing the answers are in
01:13:20 the law
01:13:21 you know when it was like it was like
01:13:26 night and day there was this one person
01:13:28 who was just so confused didn’t realize
01:13:31 why they weren’t getting answers to
01:13:33 their prayers I taught them a lesson on
01:13:35 the Commandments
01:13:38 and they gravitated to it
01:13:41 their heart gravitated to it
01:13:44 and they um
01:13:46 and they and they became
01:13:50 at first they were convicted because
01:13:52 when you teach people the Commandments
01:13:54 they’re always
01:13:57 sure uh you know whether what they do
01:14:00 with it is another question but yeah
01:14:01 yeah but she she really just got into it
01:14:04 started
01:14:05 teaching her kids the Commandments and
01:14:08 teaching them how to do and going are
01:14:13 you doing deep Dives on and doing deep
01:14:15 Dives on each one figuring out
01:14:18 obey
01:14:20 right wow and uh and she became a much
01:14:25 more joyful and happy person until of
01:14:28 course the parasites from the parasites
01:14:32 from the Phil Plant started coming along
01:14:35 and uh making her question what she was
01:14:38 receiving
01:14:39 sure
01:14:41 um well there’s
01:14:43 they came and uh uh a pair with the
01:14:47 sword I’m trying to think of what it
01:14:49 does on that but there’s it’s I’m seeing
01:14:51 stuff for birds or
01:14:53 you know where they got where the seat
01:14:55 got covered and then
01:14:57 yep taken away
01:15:01 um but yeah
01:15:02 it’s well I mean the thing is is that
01:15:07 the thing is I see it is that the game’s
01:15:10 not over until it’s over
01:15:12 oh no uh hopefully maybe she’ll remember
01:15:15 that
01:15:17 um experience
01:15:19 right but to me that’s another witness
01:15:22 to these verses
01:15:24 no she she turned to the law she got an
01:15:27 answer
01:15:31 to me it’s
01:15:33 it’s pretty simple it’s not that you
01:15:35 have to pray hours on end like some of
01:15:37 these Pretenders teach it’s yeah oh yeah
01:15:43 you got to stay on those knees until you
01:15:46 wear out the knee pads you know who
01:15:49 answers questions like that or desires
01:15:52 or demands like that
01:15:54 Satan yeah
01:15:56 he’ll give you what you want
01:16:02 well one of the things that I’ve always
01:16:04 found helpful
01:16:06 getting answers to prayers
01:16:09 is actually asking the question
01:16:14 after of course after I’ve puzzled it
01:16:16 out
01:16:17 you tried to tried to figure things out
01:16:20 myself
01:16:24 always phrase the always phrase the
01:16:26 question what am I to understand
01:16:29 bye
01:16:32 sure that sounds like was it DNC eight
01:16:35 or nine or ten in that jail area and it
01:16:40 also sounds like Moroni 10 also
01:16:43 yeah
01:16:45 um
01:16:46 so yeah
01:16:48 I agree
01:16:50 um and let me just let it go and let the
01:16:54 Lord answer in his time
01:16:57 yeah yeah you can’t force it
01:17:00 I
01:17:01 sometimes because you may not be ready
01:17:03 for the answer
01:17:05 sure
01:17:06 right
01:17:07 or you haven’t uh
01:17:11 uh you haven’t studied it so where God
01:17:14 can remind you of it also so yeah there
01:17:17 can be multiple things too
01:17:21 um
01:17:21 but I
01:17:24 sometimes God gives me things to help
01:17:26 other people
01:17:27 it’s not for me it’s for them but right
01:17:30 most the time it’s a reminder of
01:17:33 something I already knew sometimes it is
01:17:36 something actually
01:17:38 new to me also but that’s that’s rare
01:17:42 most of the time it’s a reminder
01:17:43 something already knew yeah
01:17:47 um but yeah but it’s
01:17:50 it’s for those who are really seeking
01:17:52 not for those who are trying to come up
01:17:55 with fancy questions to make them look
01:17:57 all smart and
01:17:58 no oh Lord can you give the can you give
01:18:02 me an answer on this so that I can
01:18:04 expound upon it in the doctrine of
01:18:07 Christ’s discussions group and get so
01:18:10 many Kudos likes you get so many Kudos
01:18:13 likes and hearts
01:18:15 uh yeah no that’s
01:18:18 no that’s not how it works
01:18:21 joking around with me yeah
01:18:25 um I I have had it said that sometimes
01:18:28 it’s hard to tell when I’m joking and
01:18:30 when I’m serious but uh that’s fine
01:18:33 um I’ve been told sometimes when I put
01:18:36 rhetorical questions that’s hard to tell
01:18:37 but I I maybe it’s I I just I know the
01:18:41 answer so I’ll put in a question and
01:18:44 some people think it’s an actual
01:18:45 question I’m like no but but when people
01:18:48 reply to it I respond and explain it to
01:18:51 them
01:18:52 [Laughter]
01:18:56 I mean rhetorical questions are in the
01:19:00 scriptures so it’s not like um using the
01:19:02 technique out of nowhere yeah I mean I
01:19:07 often I’ll often employ the technique of
01:19:11 asking the question and immediately
01:19:13 answering it because I don’t want it
01:19:15 because I really because I know they
01:19:17 don’t know the answer to it necessarily
01:19:20 or you don’t want to hear their answer
01:19:23 um yeah so
01:19:25 uh maybe we can pause for a minute do
01:19:27 Sacrament and then we can do some more
01:19:28 yeah that’d be great okay
01:19:32 foreign so one thing I just want to
01:19:34 repeat I was just telling Ben why we’re
01:19:37 doing sacrament
01:19:38 is that I have a goal to get uh
01:19:43 cup out of clay
01:19:46 for a Sacrament cause
01:19:48 um
01:19:49 part of it just because of the symbolism
01:19:51 of
01:19:52 our bodies coming into the clay or the
01:19:54 dust of the earth and that’s what holds
01:19:57 our blood and
01:19:59 being more
01:20:01 also I think it’s more authentic
01:20:04 to the time because at the Last Supper
01:20:09 um I do believe they would have used
01:20:10 clay cups personally wood was not
01:20:14 popular
01:20:15 or common back then
01:20:18 um no in that day and area especially
01:20:24 and I don’t
01:20:27 think Yeshua was a carpenter like some
01:20:30 people translate Craftsman to
01:20:33 um
01:20:34 anyways that’s another subject and a
01:20:37 stone cup doesn’t work I mean that’s not
01:20:39 going to be comment so I I think the cup
01:20:41 was
01:20:43 clay uh but I like more of the symbolism
01:20:46 of our blood being held by Clay just
01:20:49 like I’m a
01:20:51 on the bag of clay
01:20:53 um there’s a band I used to listen to
01:20:56 Jars of Clay
01:20:58 we’re Jars of Clay no
01:21:02 I mean their name just says it right and
01:21:05 I like it I liked that bat yeah so I
01:21:08 haven’t listened to him for a little
01:21:09 while so now I’ll have to go find a song
01:21:11 on them now but I did like that band
01:21:14 um
01:21:16 uh soft rock and Christian music fit
01:21:19 together I enjoyed it yeah
01:21:22 but that’s the name of their bed is jar
01:21:26 of clay
01:21:27 is it jar jars jars jars of play okay
01:21:32 um but that’s like
01:21:35 jars made out of clay that’s what we are
01:21:37 and we’re holding blood to Keep Us Alive
01:21:39 anyways
01:21:41 anyway you put it guys
01:21:44 yeah
01:21:45 but I I want one that looks kind of
01:21:47 rustic so kind of old
01:21:50 I also want one it looks kind of more
01:21:52 Hebrew Jewish
01:21:54 but I’m not too worried about that but I
01:21:56 do want it kind of look more like clay I
01:21:59 don’t want it all painted white probably
01:22:02 one that’s been glazed because I don’t
01:22:03 want the wine going into the clay but
01:22:06 anyways
01:22:08 I just think it’s a cool thought
01:22:10 no bill a little bit it’ll be a nice
01:22:14 touch
01:22:15 yeah yeah because they wouldn’t have had
01:22:18 glass cups and especially the fancy wine
01:22:20 glass cups back then oh man
01:22:25 um
01:22:27 The Prestige that goes on today is just
01:22:30 silly
01:22:33 um
01:22:34 anyways yep
01:22:36 when I can but I keep my eye open for
01:22:39 one year when we go to
01:22:41 um
01:22:42 where artisanos do you think here
01:22:46 because sometimes they have some nice
01:22:47 stuff but I haven’t seen a cup that I
01:22:49 liked for that yeah all right yeah I
01:22:52 mean I think you but I I I think that
01:22:54 that seems like it seems like that’ll be
01:22:57 something you get there
01:22:59 yeah yeah oh yeah it’s just a matter of
01:23:02 finding someone that does it
01:23:05 um yeah
01:23:06 online shopping isn’t so popular here
01:23:09 like it is in the states ah I can’t just
01:23:14 go online and find like Amazon right
01:23:17 yeah just about everything
01:23:21 Amazon’s trying to get into Argentina
01:23:23 but they’re not here
01:23:25 completely
01:23:27 um but anyways that’s a whole other
01:23:28 subject
01:23:32 so
01:23:34 um
01:23:35 we talk about some other things I don’t
01:23:38 know what else if you want to bring
01:23:39 something up or I could bring
01:23:41 some things up or
01:23:43 no um
01:23:46 yeah
01:23:48 yeah let’s uh
01:23:52 I’m trying to
01:23:55 talk it something that I was uh
01:23:59 something that I was getting into is the
01:24:01 nature that I was getting into in my
01:24:04 Sabbath studies today is the nature of
01:24:06 the Rock
01:24:07 uh yeah and the that uh playlist from
01:24:11 moti if I remember right yes it stands
01:24:15 for Missouri observant
01:24:17 Torah Messianic of the Torah Observer
01:24:21 mtoi oh yeah Messianic Torah observant
01:24:26 um
01:24:29 anyway I forget what the eye is yeah
01:24:32 I I like some other stuff I don’t like
01:24:35 everything but I I do like some other
01:24:37 good oh yeah
01:24:42 good job
01:24:43 that’s a fairly rational it’s a fairly
01:24:46 rational understanding of the uh of the
01:24:49 rough
01:24:50 uh yeah and it’s pretty thorough
01:24:53 it’s been a while since I’ve
01:24:56 uh watched it but
01:24:59 um well yeah I mean he goes into the
01:25:02 idea of it being
01:25:04 wind
01:25:05 and
01:25:07 be of it being wind and breath before he
01:25:10 goes into the whole thing of the
01:25:11 intrinsic of it being the intrinsic
01:25:14 nature
01:25:16 yeah well wind has to do with the spirit
01:25:19 yeah and the spirit is another word for
01:25:23 behavior
01:25:24 um yeah so it’s mtoi yeah I don’t
01:25:27 remember what the eye is
01:25:29 [Music]
01:25:30 um
01:25:31 how many videos is that yeah it’s
01:25:33 probably like 10.
01:25:35 there’s eight videos oh hey okay so it’s
01:25:38 a night bar it’s eight parts eight part
01:25:41 Series yeah
01:25:43 um in fact if you want like Sidetrack us
01:25:46 a little bit stay on this though uh show
01:25:49 a little bit of a post I haven’t
01:25:50 finished
01:25:52 oh what does that ever happen does that
01:25:55 happen no I never do that
01:25:58 but you might you might actually like it
01:26:00 goes with the subject okay yeah
01:26:04 um so
01:26:12 ah this one so John 3 right
01:26:16 yeah
01:26:18 uh it’s just you know with the spirit
01:26:19 being
01:26:20 wind
01:26:22 that’s an illusion that Yeshua is using
01:26:25 when he’s talking to Nicodemus here
01:26:29 um
01:26:29 so uh yeah that’s that’s I mean we look
01:26:33 at all but I I need to finish this
01:26:35 you’ve never heard me say that sorry
01:26:38 um
01:26:39 time for Chris oh okay
01:26:43 um uh oh so John 3 the wind bloweth
01:26:45 where it lists and hereth the sound
01:26:47 thereof but thou Can’t Stop
01:26:49 once were at cometh and where if it goes
01:26:52 so is everyone that is born of the
01:26:54 spirit
01:26:58 so so the win if you’re if that’s to be
01:27:02 significant for Behavior
01:27:07 the your behavior doesn’t uh your
01:27:10 behavior doesn’t list anything you list
01:27:13 and it creates your behavior
01:27:15 uh
01:27:17 yeah so
01:27:18 um the sound thereof I think it’s
01:27:20 talking about especially the sound the
01:27:23 sound the sound isn’t going to be the
01:27:25 voice
01:27:26 yeah sound is often in the used in the
01:27:29 same word as Thunders and what have you
01:27:33 sure sure
01:27:35 um but more I bring out the sound on
01:27:36 this part and the hearing is that’s what
01:27:40 we do with the word of God
01:27:41 someone speaks it and then we hear it
01:27:45 and the wind bloweth where it goes where
01:27:48 it lists it goes where it wants
01:27:51 not where we make it go so the ruach
01:27:54 goes where it wants
01:27:56 right we can’t make it show up right
01:28:01 um and it goes where it’s supposed to go
01:28:03 not where man tries to make it go yeah
01:28:08 um so let’s see if I can find my little
01:28:11 commentary on that
01:28:13 but in here
01:28:16 you know everybody says Jesus was a
01:28:18 really kind man no
01:28:20 and here when you really look at what’s
01:28:22 going on here Jesus was chewing out
01:28:25 Nicodemus for not knowing in fact when
01:28:30 he’s giving that parable about the wind
01:28:31 and the spirit is like you don’t
01:28:34 understand it you don’t know where it
01:28:35 comes from
01:28:37 he was really kind of
01:28:40 calling him out
01:28:41 well the interesting thing is that
01:28:43 Nicodemus is listed as a Believer among
01:28:46 the Pharisees
01:28:47 so when he later yes he was starting to
01:28:50 believe he was wondering in fact in here
01:28:54 he talks about no man could do these
01:28:56 Miracles except he’s brought out from
01:28:58 God right so anyways this verse 3-1 uh I
01:29:03 bring out how he was
01:29:04 a top teacher and so I also bring out
01:29:08 how Israel is a theocracy meaning the
01:29:12 teachers are the rulers right
01:29:16 um because they’re the priests
01:29:18 um anyways
01:29:20 so he was a ruler and a teacher and a
01:29:22 top one at that and then two the same
01:29:25 Nicodemus came to yahshua by night and
01:29:27 he came by night because he was scared
01:29:30 yeah other people would say if they knew
01:29:32 he was going to him so he was starting
01:29:36 to believe but Rabbi teacher we know
01:29:39 that thou art a teacher instructor come
01:29:42 from Yahweh for no man can do these
01:29:45 Miracles that thou doest except God be
01:29:48 with him
01:29:49 but
01:29:52 there’s more to it than that the signs
01:29:54 that he give were prophesied of the
01:29:56 Messiah
01:29:58 these specific ones in fact
01:30:01 um
01:30:02 when Yeshua healed a blind man the
01:30:05 reason that was such a big deal is
01:30:07 because in their Aura law so this is not
01:30:09 the written but I do tend to believe
01:30:11 this one you got to be careful with the
01:30:12 oral law but in their oral law it talks
01:30:14 about if a man he was a blind man he’s
01:30:17 the Messiah
01:30:18 and that’s why that event was such
01:30:21 caused such the problem
01:30:23 and they made such a big deal out of it
01:30:27 because in the New Testament they do
01:30:28 make a big deal out of it they’re
01:30:29 questioning him and and the sun it’s
01:30:32 because they had a tradition that stated
01:30:36 if someone could heal a blind man
01:30:39 born blind which that man was yeah it
01:30:42 would be the Messiah now the yeah and
01:30:45 the fact is that
01:30:47 to make things even better he did it on
01:30:50 himself
01:30:51 right but that he didn’t break the law
01:30:53 that was the oral law that said you
01:30:54 couldn’t heal on the Sabbath and most of
01:30:56 the healings if not all that Yeshua did
01:30:58 was on the Sabbath which is interesting
01:31:01 it’s prophetic of the millennium
01:31:06 11 which is symbolic of the Millennium
01:31:08 Christ healed people right
01:31:12 but I also think
01:31:16 that that really sets up a really
01:31:19 fine relationship
01:31:23 between the Sabbath
01:31:27 between honoring the Sabbath of Miracles
01:31:33 yeah yeah
01:31:37 that’s
01:31:39 um sure I can see that
01:31:41 yeah because
01:31:44 but
01:31:46 Miracles
01:31:47 technically
01:31:49 Miracles are done for the glory of God
01:31:55 they are
01:31:57 part
01:31:59 of the nature of his holy day is that
01:32:02 they could happens because the heavens
01:32:05 are because on the Sabbath are open the
01:32:09 heavens are open
01:32:13 um
01:32:13 those things would naturally
01:32:17 come more easily
01:32:20 I can see that I hadn’t made that
01:32:22 connection but I can see that
01:32:26 um
01:32:27 yeah
01:32:29 I I do think there’s going to be more
01:32:31 miracles in the Millennium which is
01:32:33 symbolic of the Sabbath right well I
01:32:36 think there will be Miracles leading up
01:32:37 to the Millennium too so do I I mean
01:32:41 that’s I
01:32:46 I’ve it’s in it’s in my heart and it’s
01:32:50 and and the uh and the felt that and I
01:32:54 felt the impression that this would be
01:32:56 the case
01:32:57 just like um
01:33:01 well to go along with that there’s going
01:33:03 to be a wave of righteousness before the
01:33:05 second coming which would enable well we
01:33:07 may we may be catching we may be
01:33:09 catching the beginning of that now
01:33:13 possibly
01:33:15 I hope so
01:33:17 uh I’ll tell you I I’m excited and
01:33:20 nervous for what’s coming
01:33:23 well
01:33:25 foreign
01:33:26 I would say that’s probably an
01:33:30 appropriate way to feel yeah
01:33:33 I think so
01:33:35 I would say it’s probably an appropriate
01:33:38 way
01:33:39 both nervous and
01:33:42 uh
01:33:46 and filled with joyous expectation
01:33:49 yes yeah I just there’s some things that
01:33:52 are just are not good that’s gonna
01:33:54 happen but anyways
01:33:55 yeah so back to this for no man can do
01:33:58 these Miracles except God be with him so
01:34:02 um Nicodemus is not being if he really
01:34:05 knows the law he’s not being completely
01:34:07 honest there because this the Miracles
01:34:09 that he was doing like I pointed out
01:34:12 really point to him to being the Messiah
01:34:15 yeah so maybe he just wasn’t used
01:34:21 his pets yeah yeah he’s he’s
01:34:25 he’s not quite there yet
01:34:29 he’s and here’s what yahshua said barely
01:34:32 verily by saying unto thee except the
01:34:34 man be born again he cannot see in the
01:34:35 kingdom of God
01:34:38 like what here he is trying to say well
01:34:41 I I think God’s with you and Jesus is
01:34:44 like
01:34:45 unless you’re born again you can’t see
01:34:46 the kingdom
01:34:48 meaning unless you’re born again you
01:34:50 won’t understand these things
01:34:54 Anika Dima said unto him how can a man
01:34:56 be born when he is old how can he enter
01:34:59 the second time in his mother rooms and
01:35:01 be born I
01:35:04 these are questions that you that just
01:35:08 shows a shocking lack of understanding
01:35:11 yeah baptism’s in Torah
01:35:14 exactly and then on top of that the
01:35:17 people didn’t go John the Baptist and
01:35:19 ask him what he was doing he asked him
01:35:21 by what Authority they were doing so
01:35:25 Nicodemus is dancing around the issue
01:35:28 here he knew what baptism was and yet
01:35:30 look here’s his response how can I go
01:35:32 back to my mother’s womb
01:35:34 the Pharisees knew what baptism was
01:35:36 because they went to John the Baptist
01:35:38 which Nicodemus was of the Pharisees
01:35:42 and asked him by what Authority not by
01:35:45 what not what you were doing but what
01:35:47 Authority so here’s Nicodemus dancing
01:35:50 around the answer that Yeshua gave him
01:35:55 and Jesus calls him out
01:36:00 really early
01:36:02 symptomatic Board of water on the spirit
01:36:04 you cannot remember the kingdom of
01:36:05 heaven yeah so not just water but of the
01:36:09 spirit also
01:36:11 you cannot enter and so it’s not that he
01:36:14 just cannot see it
01:36:16 right he won’t understand it
01:36:18 he he upped yesterday to some of the
01:36:20 game right he upped it
01:36:22 you won’t enter into it not just not
01:36:25 only see it but you won’t enter it
01:36:28 Yeah so basically
01:36:30 which is a
01:36:34 which is a direct slap into the face of
01:36:36 these people who who claim themselves
01:36:39 who claim themselves to be descendants
01:36:41 of Abraham yeah yeah it is
01:36:46 um in by Blood
01:36:50 yeah
01:36:51 um What Matters by Spirit the most
01:36:54 because even if you’re by Blood and
01:36:55 you’re not by the cigarette you’re
01:36:57 you’re not of the blood
01:36:59 because the blood is Joshua’s blood but
01:37:02 anyways
01:37:04 okay so you can’t enter and then that
01:37:06 which is born of the flesh is flesh that
01:37:08 which is the point of the spirit is
01:37:10 Spirit
01:37:12 um so basically
01:37:14 as we talked about before we
01:37:16 I think it was was it before we started
01:37:18 recording or I think it was before but
01:37:21 the spirit of the Holy Ghost is the
01:37:23 spirit is being
01:37:25 baptized in the law uh and I’m showing
01:37:28 that in a post I’m doing hopefully it
01:37:31 won’t be out in two days for um
01:37:35 per day of atonement but anyways no yeah
01:37:40 it’s in a couple days
01:37:44 was born of the Taurus is Torah or the
01:37:47 law of the way the spirit right Behavior
01:37:51 um Marvel knot that I said unto you must
01:37:54 be born again become a new creature
01:37:56 right
01:37:58 and be of new ways
01:38:01 not of these Pagan ways that you find
01:38:03 excuses in
01:38:04 by proof texting and the law that you’re
01:38:07 doing as a teacher
01:38:08 it’s you’re still your old self
01:38:12 now here’s the big one
01:38:14 the wind spirit
01:38:21 are unanimous in Hebrew and so Jesus I
01:38:26 believe
01:38:27 heard the wind blowing
01:38:29 and use that to teach teach Nicodemus so
01:38:32 he used what was there like he does
01:38:34 pretty much everywhere in the New
01:38:35 Testament he just sees what’s there and
01:38:36 uses it to teach people because
01:38:39 God just knows it so well right anyways
01:38:42 blow blow it and he’s making it makes a
01:38:45 sound right you hear because it blows it
01:38:48 speaks where what it listis wants so the
01:38:53 spirit speaks what it wants not what we
01:38:56 want right
01:38:58 it speaks according to truth
01:39:01 so
01:39:02 again but
01:39:06 with the idea and understanding of
01:39:09 his law
01:39:12 uh then that means the law speaks
01:39:15 yeah yes it does I mean
01:39:20 yeah
01:39:21 I hear it speak to me
01:39:23 yeah uh and now here’s the sound thereof
01:39:27 so you hear it you hear it yep or or
01:39:31 read it
01:39:34 but no this is direct to the Nicodemus
01:39:37 and non-believers but you can’t know
01:39:41 where it cometh or whether it goeth
01:39:43 meaning you don’t know if it came from
01:39:46 God or you didn’t you don’t know what
01:39:48 came if it came from Satan or you don’t
01:39:50 know where it’s leading you too
01:39:52 because you’re not born again you don’t
01:39:55 know where it came you don’t know where
01:39:57 it’s going
01:39:58 you don’t know who sent it
01:40:00 so everyone that is born of the law
01:40:05 speaks and
01:40:07 basically speaks with the most and
01:40:10 speaks but it speaks but it speaks what
01:40:12 it wants those without the law speak
01:40:15 what they want those with the law yeah
01:40:17 so is everyone that is born of the
01:40:19 spirit Spirit high back to law they look
01:40:23 they go where they they go where they
01:40:25 list they speak
01:40:27 so this is a chiasm I I wasn’t right
01:40:32 but this is a this is a repetition
01:40:36 of that of the idea
01:40:39 above
01:40:41 everyone that is born of the spirit
01:40:44 behaves as the spirit
01:40:47 tells them to yeah well it behaves as
01:40:51 the spirit right
01:40:53 and so they they follow the law
01:40:58 right so Yeshua just told him that you
01:41:03 hear the words but you don’t know where
01:41:04 they came from meaning you know if it
01:41:06 came from God or Satan because he can’t
01:41:08 discern yet right yeah
01:41:11 and you don’t know where it’s going if
01:41:13 it’s leading you to heaven or if it’s
01:41:14 leading you to hell because you don’t
01:41:16 know who said it
01:41:18 you know and Nicodemus answered unto him
01:41:21 how can these things be how can it be
01:41:23 that I don’t know what is
01:41:26 that I don’t know the law yeah how do I
01:41:29 not know the law and Jesus answered on
01:41:31 him are thou a master of Israel thou
01:41:34 knowest not these things so you claim to
01:41:37 be a teacher
01:41:38 but you don’t know this so I I give the
01:41:41 Greek word behind it and it’s better
01:41:44 instructor that’s why I have that there
01:41:46 but anyways
01:41:48 Masters but Rabbi is the master teacher
01:41:52 so maybe it’s an okay translation but
01:41:54 it’s not the most clear for us yeah they
01:41:56 don’t know the culture right
01:41:58 barely very speak on you that we do know
01:42:01 and testify that we have seen and you
01:42:03 received not our witness so this is
01:42:06 Joshua speaking again that we
01:42:08 who’s this we
01:42:11 it’s Yeshua Moses and the other prophets
01:42:15 that’s the we because he’s bringing in
01:42:18 the law
01:42:19 we know and testify what we see that we
01:42:23 speak that we do know
01:42:25 and basically well that’s basically the
01:42:29 problem with the Pharisees is that they
01:42:33 didn’t they spoke what they did not know
01:42:35 yeah and they mixed in Babylon
01:42:38 traditions and proof texted to make it
01:42:40 look like it was in Torah
01:42:42 they didn’t know
01:42:44 even though they claim they did and look
01:42:47 he says right here
01:42:49 you don’t understand the witness meaning
01:42:55 you don’t understand Torah
01:42:58 and the Tanakh
01:43:00 which is what they built their whole
01:43:02 lives off of that was that’s not
01:43:04 something nice to say at that time
01:43:07 that was Radical to go tell someone that
01:43:10 and here yeshua’s telling someone
01:43:14 high in the leadership and and the
01:43:17 government and leaders teachers
01:43:20 that you don’t understand what’s there
01:43:24 I mean he was just blunt about it here
01:43:27 it is but we don’t see that or most of
01:43:30 us telling us don’t see it right we
01:43:32 speak what we do know and testify that
01:43:34 we’ve seen and you reject it
01:43:38 um
01:43:40 I mean I see that all the time on
01:43:41 Facebook
01:43:44 well and the thing is is then they want
01:43:47 to
01:43:49 because they reject
01:43:51 the
01:43:53 simple
01:43:55 measure that God has given us of whether
01:43:58 we are righteous or not then they have
01:44:01 to come up with these fancy
01:44:04 long explanations that said impossibly
01:44:08 High bars for people’s prayers
01:44:11 I mean hours and hours long to get
01:44:13 answers
01:44:14 right instead of just saying returning
01:44:18 to the law
01:44:19 yeah that’s that’s yeah I mean that’s
01:44:22 basically what I’m saying is that they
01:44:24 don’t
01:44:25 they don’t see how they won’t see how
01:44:28 simple it is no they don’t want to
01:44:31 because then just like at the cross
01:44:33 which actually this is interesting I
01:44:35 don’t know if you know this but it leads
01:44:37 up to the cross
01:44:38 and the snake on in the desert
01:44:41 yes Moses which points to yahshua right
01:44:45 and how simple the way was but they
01:44:47 rejected it because it was so simple
01:44:49 it’s simple to return to the law
01:44:53 it’s more exciting to pray for hours to
01:44:57 say that I prayed for hours well it’s
01:45:00 one of those things that really
01:45:02 foreign
01:45:06 I don’t know where’s my knees out
01:45:09 yeah
01:45:10 well I’m I’m just saying that it’s like
01:45:14 when you can get when you can get on a
01:45:17 Facebook post and say I prayed for hours
01:45:21 to get something
01:45:24 yeah oftentimes
01:45:28 people will give you kudos for staying
01:45:31 on your knees for hours yeah they do but
01:45:33 I’m not for me you’ll get verses for me
01:45:37 I’m like
01:45:38 I’m like I’m always like well that’s
01:45:41 great you stayed on your knees for hours
01:45:42 do you need uh need an e transplant
01:45:46 that’s just
01:45:49 yeah that’s okay
01:45:51 um so anyways okay let’s continue
01:45:54 um
01:45:55 uh no medicine I have told you okay so
01:45:59 you rejected
01:46:00 if I told you Earthly things and you
01:46:02 believe not how should you believe if I
01:46:04 tell you Earthly things so yeah um you
01:46:08 don’t understand the simple things how
01:46:10 am I gonna help you understand the
01:46:12 things you can’t even see
01:46:14 or Heavenly things right you’re not even
01:46:17 doing what you’re supposed to be doing
01:46:18 here on Earth you don’t even understand
01:46:20 the rudimentaries when you when you’re
01:46:23 talking about Earthly things you’re
01:46:25 talking about your basic um
01:46:28 you if you’re talking about your basic
01:46:31 dead works here
01:46:33 yeah
01:46:35 um
01:46:36 well your law of Moses type stuff your
01:46:41 wow
01:46:45 Torah is valid on Earth and in heaven
01:46:47 and the scriptures show that it’s going
01:46:49 to be keeped in heaven yeah so but with
01:46:54 the Earth the Earthly thing he’s putting
01:46:56 the differentiation between Earthly
01:46:59 things and Heavenly things which means
01:47:01 that there is knowledge
01:47:03 Beyond necessarily what we now have oh
01:47:07 yes there’s a lot of things that God
01:47:09 hasn’t told uh mankind yet and he tells
01:47:13 us if if you’re diligently seek him and
01:47:16 keep his Commandments he’ll give you
01:47:18 Mysteries that he hasn’t given anybody
01:47:19 else that implies he hasn’t given
01:47:23 everything yet right yeah so
01:47:27 anyways uh
01:47:29 I know this one’s interesting and no man
01:47:31 Ascend up to heaven but he that came
01:47:33 down from heaven even for including the
01:47:37 son of man which is in heaven to me this
01:47:39 teaches uh
01:47:41 pre-existence
01:47:43 no man no human hath ascended up to
01:47:46 heaven but he that comes down from
01:47:48 heaven including the son of man which
01:47:52 is in heaven now
01:47:54 uh I think that last part’s not the best
01:47:56 translation because Yeshua is the son of
01:47:58 man and he’s right there speaking but
01:48:00 anyways that’s
01:48:02 yeah there are translation issues but
01:48:06 um no mankind or no human ascended up to
01:48:10 heaven or will Ascend up to heaven but
01:48:13 he that came down from heaven including
01:48:16 the son of man yep
01:48:24 translators some are better than others
01:48:26 we can leave it at that well and here’s
01:48:28 the and the other thing is always when
01:48:31 you read a translation
01:48:34 when you’ve accepted translation you’re
01:48:36 also accepting
01:48:38 there at theology the Theology of the
01:48:41 translator well some
01:48:43 do that more than others but you can’t
01:48:46 completely Escape it because
01:48:49 English has a lot of filler words and
01:48:53 um
01:48:54 you can’t pick the right filler word
01:48:56 unless you go off of a theology that’s
01:48:59 yes
01:49:00 so you just have to be careful with it
01:49:02 some are more careful than others I
01:49:05 think the older translations are more
01:49:06 careful in general though the Berean
01:49:10 standard
01:49:11 or brand Study Bible I do generally like
01:49:15 and that’s a newer one but anyways
01:49:17 yeah here’s people’s favorite verse
01:49:21 right John 3 14 and oh no it’s 3 16. but
01:49:25 this leads up to that and Moses lift up
01:49:28 the servant and serpent in the
01:49:30 wilderness even so much
01:49:33 the son of man will be lifted up so this
01:49:36 is telling us that
01:49:39 that statement in Torah is prophecy
01:49:42 right yeah
01:49:47 um
01:49:48 so Moses lifted up the serpent
01:49:51 wisdom
01:49:52 which comes from Yeshua by keeping the
01:49:55 law even so the son of man shall be
01:49:57 lifted up or Yeshua shall be lifted up
01:50:01 and that whosoever believeth in him
01:50:03 should not perish but have everlasting
01:50:06 life
01:50:07 and believeth or have faith or kind of
01:50:10 the same thing as a translation thing
01:50:12 well here’s the thing
01:50:16 I once heard this put really simply okay
01:50:21 foreign
01:50:23 if you believe in God
01:50:28 you if you believe the way that you show
01:50:31 you believe in God Is by keeping his
01:50:33 Commandments
01:50:35 because if because the whole thing is is
01:50:38 that
01:50:40 if you believe in God you believe that
01:50:42 his word is law
01:50:45 so in the hyperic mindset I completely
01:50:48 agree and the Hellenistic mindset I
01:50:52 disagree
01:50:53 if you know where I’m getting at
01:50:55 man
01:50:57 because Hellenistic belief is just
01:51:00 like book knowledge you don’t have to go
01:51:02 out and do it
01:51:04 but yeah
01:51:05 which is well Hellenistic the
01:51:08 Hellenistic mindset is also pagan
01:51:11 oh I agree but most of the world is
01:51:13 Hellenistic
01:51:15 um right now
01:51:18 um if you if you go watch my Charlie and
01:51:21 the Chocolate Factory the reason why the
01:51:23 first girl turns into a blue ball is
01:51:26 because she represents Greece and
01:51:29 degrees Hellenistic thought went all
01:51:31 over the world
01:51:32 that’s why she’s turned into a blueberry
01:51:36 which is the Blue Earth
01:51:38 that went all because Hellenistic
01:51:40 thought went all went all over the world
01:51:43 it’s very dominant thought process
01:51:47 and it’s different than the hebraic
01:51:49 thought process
01:51:51 anyways
01:51:52 well maybe that’s what maybe that’s the
01:51:54 cause of maybe that’s the cause of my
01:51:56 miscommunication issues
01:51:59 thought you’re completely right I
01:52:01 completely agree with you
01:52:03 [Music]
01:52:04 but in Hellenistic thought it’s
01:52:06 different
01:52:08 because belief doesn’t cause action in
01:52:10 Hellenistic thought it does in Hebrew
01:52:16 anyways uh well it’s because of the
01:52:18 break thought that well the thing about
01:52:20 he breaks out is it’s more about
01:52:23 symmetry
01:52:24 of symmetry of ideas yeah and it’s
01:52:27 function
01:52:29 where Hellenistic is uh facts we’re
01:52:33 function what’s the function of belief
01:52:35 is to cause action
01:52:37 just like lectures on faith one States
01:52:40 right
01:52:43 um but that’s not the case in
01:52:45 Hellenistic thought
01:52:47 and so in in
01:52:50 Hebrew it doesn’t matter if it’s belief
01:52:52 or faith because in some cases it’s the
01:52:55 same word just translated differently
01:52:56 well the thing is Hellenistic thought
01:52:58 patterns lie
01:53:00 well yeah because they will tell you
01:53:03 it’s okay to know but then not do which
01:53:06 is deceiving yourself yep
01:53:09 um so yeah they are lying
01:53:11 um I’m not interested in them
01:53:14 not interested in understanding them
01:53:16 either
01:53:17 uh I’m not anymore but it does kind of
01:53:20 helped bring to help people cross over
01:53:22 into the Hebrew thought but Hebrew means
01:53:25 crossed over yeah helps people to cross
01:53:28 over that’s my intent and understanding
01:53:30 now yeah anyways
01:53:33 um
01:53:36 sorry go ahead
01:53:38 um
01:53:43 just just capturing from the way you
01:53:47 articulated the Hebrew mindset
01:53:50 uh
01:53:52 no When Jesus in the Lord
01:53:56 mentioned to unique
01:54:00 you must be born again no okay just I
01:54:03 don’t know that one is uh really the the
01:54:05 question is that I know how you know
01:54:07 then later the Lord says how can you
01:54:10 don’t understand that
01:54:12 yeah
01:54:14 um yeah so here I think this is what
01:54:16 you’re getting to so Nicodemus said at
01:54:18 him how can a man be born
01:54:20 yeah when he is old can he answer the
01:54:23 second time in his mother room and be
01:54:24 born
01:54:26 and Jesus yeah basically said verily
01:54:29 verily said he’s expand being born of
01:54:30 water and of the spirit he cannot enter
01:54:32 the kingdom of God which is basically
01:54:35 saying how can you understand this
01:54:36 especially when nicodemus’s order not
01:54:39 long ago
01:54:41 that was asking John the Baptist by what
01:54:44 Authority are you doing this
01:54:47 because the Jews even the Pharisees were
01:54:50 doing baptisms yeah
01:54:52 as part of the uh it’s part of the
01:54:55 temple ceremony
01:54:56 well there’s that and there’s uh even
01:54:59 just
01:55:00 um women were baptized and not just
01:55:03 because of only their monthly cycle but
01:55:06 they were baptized other than that also
01:55:10 um
01:55:11 it’s part of the bar mitzvahs which now
01:55:14 they do it 12 which I actually believe
01:55:16 they did probably at least part of it at
01:55:19 eight because of additional light that
01:55:22 we have now and on top of that
01:55:25 there’s a king in the Tanakh that wasn’t
01:55:28 allowed
01:55:30 to be a king until he was eight and I
01:55:34 would say until after he was baptized so
01:55:36 that way he is responsible for his
01:55:38 decisions
01:55:40 um and so there’s other evidence than
01:55:42 just the restoration the baptisms were
01:55:44 at eight including that from the Tanakh
01:55:47 because that’s when someone is
01:55:50 accountable for their decisions
01:55:52 otherwise why wait until eight to make
01:55:55 them a king
01:55:56 because he was
01:55:58 he was the child of a dead King why not
01:56:01 give it to him right when the King died
01:56:04 because he wasn’t accountable for his
01:56:06 actions he waited until he was
01:56:08 accountable
01:56:09 I’m sure he still had counselors at that
01:56:12 time right being only eight but he was
01:56:14 accountable for his decisions
01:56:23 but yeah Jesus basically said here
01:56:26 how do you not understand this because
01:56:28 he basically repeated what he said just
01:56:31 before right and just up to the game
01:56:34 from seeing to entering he didn’t really
01:56:38 any added water and spirit but the
01:56:42 interesting the other interesting thing
01:56:43 about that is that those who were Jews
01:56:47 at that time
01:56:48 believe themselves to be a part of the
01:56:50 kingdom of God
01:56:53 yeah
01:56:54 um
01:56:56 yeah well people do that today too
01:57:02 it’s there’s this very interesting thing
01:57:05 yeah
01:57:06 yeah it’s been uh to me that we are
01:57:08 looking now there’s two two faces I mean
01:57:11 the two phase of uh
01:57:14 of uh the kingdom expected that the Lord
01:57:18 has just explained one the first is you
01:57:20 see born again you cannot see and the
01:57:23 second phase is that
01:57:28 and spirit
01:57:30 Yeah so basically if practically if if
01:57:35 nowadays no we have to lead someone to
01:57:37 the understanding of the concept uh what
01:57:40 is a practical no literally practical
01:57:42 the process that someone has to go
01:57:44 through here
01:57:46 uh now that depends on what’s holding
01:57:49 the person back so that’s hard to say
01:57:52 off of this
01:57:54 um but the main answer is learning the
01:57:58 scriptures and and then Yahweh will then
01:58:01 bring to your mind what will help them
01:58:05 um and so I know that’s not a direct
01:58:07 answer but with the little you gave me
01:58:09 that’s the best answer I can give you
01:58:11 unless Ben can give some more on that
01:58:14 well the uh
01:58:18 he is the key first and foremost the
01:58:20 spirit brings to remembrance
01:58:23 the law
01:58:26 so we must know the law
01:58:31 yeah we are to discern between truth and
01:58:34 error we must know the law
01:58:40 and if we are to enter into the kingdom
01:58:42 of heaven
01:58:44 we must
01:58:47 allow if we were to enter into the
01:58:50 kingdom of heaven
01:58:51 we have to repent of our sins
01:58:54 how do we know that we sin
01:58:56 because of the law yeah and so and so we
01:59:02 must repet of our sins
01:59:05 there are some sins that are obvious
01:59:08 that we need to repent of but there’s a
01:59:10 lot of things that we do on a day-to-day
01:59:12 basis that are against Torah
01:59:17 and those require repentance
01:59:20 and a return to Torah
01:59:23 now when we first get on this path We’re
01:59:25 Not Gonna know everything in fact I
01:59:28 would say I don’t know everything of the
01:59:30 law yet but I I yeah so look at it
01:59:32 you’ve got as well you’ve got to learn
01:59:35 you got to keep learning you’ve got to
01:59:36 keep reading studying
01:59:39 yeah in fact 15 one of The Commandments
01:59:43 uh in Acts 15 for the new convert is to
01:59:47 go to synagogue AKA go to church where
01:59:50 they teach the law yeah
01:59:53 it’s a it’s a lifetime thing to keep
01:59:56 learning
01:59:58 um but the main thing is
02:00:02 to help others is for you to First study
02:00:04 and know the law and the scriptures so
02:00:08 that way when they have a question you
02:00:11 can bring out verses out to these people
02:00:14 to help them
02:00:16 to see it from the scriptures
02:00:22 no I mean to me that we are located this
02:00:26 uh from verse 8 to onward snow up to
02:00:31 to where when the Lord expanded know
02:00:34 that you need to be born again from
02:00:37 seeing into entering
02:00:40 that’s a that’s a full package of of the
02:00:44 process of salvation for someone to come
02:00:47 into the kingdom no we have to unpack
02:00:50 that no that’s uh that’s why I’m coming
02:00:52 from now if I if I have to lead someone
02:00:53 no uh for sure so yeah um I think here
02:00:58 first of all I’m not sure
02:01:02 starting to be born again you won’t see
02:01:04 the kingdom or you won’t understand that
02:01:06 the Kingdom’s based upon the law okay
02:01:11 um and then on top of that until you’re
02:01:14 so I I shared earlier before
02:01:18 um let’s go back to this one because
02:01:20 this one I have some verses where it
02:01:25 uh
02:01:26 uh give me a minute while I find them
02:01:28 but there’s two verses in the New
02:01:30 Testament that talks about
02:01:34 um the law sanctifies us and so there’s
02:01:38 uh there’s two baptisms
02:01:40 um
02:01:41 well okay so there’s repent baptism by
02:01:43 water then there’s a baptism by fire and
02:01:46 then there’s a baptism of the Holy Ghost
02:01:48 now both of those deal with the law in
02:01:52 fact all four of those still at the
02:01:54 wrong repentance is obviously
02:01:56 dealing with the law
02:01:58 I think it was more up I’m trying to
02:02:00 find it and talk at the same time okay
02:02:02 here it is so repentance obviously deals
02:02:05 with the law right
02:02:06 because you’re returning the law baptism
02:02:09 is a covenant is Bubba is a witness of a
02:02:14 covenant you already made to keep all
02:02:16 the law so that connects that to the law
02:02:19 then you there’s two baptisms there’s a
02:02:21 baptism of fire which is sometimes
02:02:23 called justification which means that
02:02:26 you’ve been cleansed or forgiven of your
02:02:29 sins
02:02:29 and then there’s a baptism of Holy Ghost
02:02:32 which is sanctification which means you
02:02:35 are now holy meaning you are now keeping
02:02:38 the law because it’s also in your heart
02:02:41 and which also means once you have
02:02:43 received the baptism of the Holy Ghost
02:02:46 uh once you’ve received the baptism of
02:02:49 the Holy Ghost then you are
02:02:53 then you are in you don’t just see the
02:02:57 Kingdom of Heaven you are a part of the
02:02:59 kingdom of heaven and as long as you
02:03:01 maintain yourself as long as you
02:03:03 maintain yourself right because then
02:03:05 there’s the enduring to the end right
02:03:07 but here so so here’s the same things
02:03:12 and some are the same things parts of
02:03:16 anyways in Torah
02:03:19 um but the ones that I want
02:03:22 oh should I skip it where’s
02:03:26 oh yeah I skipped way down
02:03:30 okay here here’s the ones about
02:03:32 sanctification by the law
02:03:35 but give thanks always to Yahweh your
02:03:38 brother and behold Yahweh because God
02:03:40 hath from the beginning chosen you to
02:03:43 Salvation meaning you’re you’re saved
02:03:46 right you’re in the Kingdom through
02:03:48 sanctification
02:03:50 of the Holy Spirit and spirit is another
02:03:52 word for Behavior and the law teaches us
02:03:55 how to behave okay
02:03:58 and belief to this yes the spirit also
02:04:01 means your innate
02:04:04 um intrinsic
02:04:07 um spiritual condition at the moment
02:04:12 yeah
02:04:13 [Music]
02:04:13 um
02:04:14 so there’s a spirit of the devil right
02:04:17 because even yahshua talked about that
02:04:18 in the New Testament and there’s the
02:04:21 Holy Spirit or the spirit of God right
02:04:24 uh those are talking about behaviors and
02:04:27 how you do things and who you are
02:04:29 following
02:04:31 um so here’s another one for from first
02:04:33 Peter
02:04:34 elect according to the foreknowledge of
02:04:37 Yahweh
02:04:38 the father through sanctification
02:04:42 of the Holy Spirit I I put holy in there
02:04:45 just that’s why I asked but in spirit in
02:04:50 this case is temper or behavior unto
02:04:53 obedience
02:04:55 of what the law the Torah which tells us
02:04:58 how to act and you see here
02:05:00 if you know what a chiism is
02:05:04 chiasm is a Hebrew poetry where they go
02:05:06 a b c c b a okay and so I’m just showing
02:05:10 here
02:05:11 and I did it up here too but I’m just
02:05:13 bringing out here so there’s elective
02:05:16 according to the foreknowledge of God’s
02:05:18 sprinkling of the blood of Yeshua Grace
02:05:20 unto you and peace multiply so he knows
02:05:24 who’s going to receive that and those
02:05:26 who receive it are doing this so A B B A
02:05:30 and so a b yeah B’s and B’s go together
02:05:33 sorry go ahead the interesting thing
02:05:35 here
02:05:36 the sanctification of the holy spirit is
02:05:39 unto Obedience of Torah
02:05:43 so the interesting thing is is that
02:05:47 obedience
02:05:48 is both
02:05:51 seem obedience is both
02:05:54 um
02:05:55 both sanctifies and as a result of and
02:05:59 is also the result of sanctification
02:06:02 yeah it’s a feedback loop
02:06:06 I don’t know if you’re familiar with
02:06:08 that with electronics and computers but
02:06:11 um it it strengthens itself it’s like
02:06:14 going to the gym multiple times
02:06:16 when you go to the gym you get stronger
02:06:18 because you’re stronger you can keep
02:06:20 more or you can lift more it’s a it’s a
02:06:24 technical term for that as a feedback
02:06:26 loop because one is helping it help
02:06:28 itself more but anyways
02:06:31 it will build a specific muscle up there
02:06:34 so you build on that line in the
02:06:36 spiritual Rhythm also yeah
02:06:40 um
02:06:43 so let’s go look at the definite of the
02:06:45 English definition of sanctification the
02:06:48 act of making holy
02:06:50 they acted God’s grace on which the
02:06:52 effects of men are purified so our
02:06:55 affections
02:06:56 what we desire and look towards and feel
02:06:59 about are purified
02:07:02 or removed from sin alienated from sin
02:07:06 and the world
02:07:08 exalted to Supreme love of God or
02:07:12 become a new creature
02:07:15 um
02:07:16 the act of consecrating or sitting apart
02:07:19 for sacred purpose consecration so we
02:07:22 consecrate ourselves unto God and make
02:07:25 ourselves holy now the baptism of Fire
02:07:27 or the forgiveness
02:07:30 um is something that happens before that
02:07:32 it that’s what it allows us it allows us
02:07:36 to see the Kingdom of Heaven yes
02:07:39 um
02:07:40 so along those lines you’ll see how he
02:07:43 goes to seeing to being entering it’s
02:07:47 yeshua’s upping the game just like
02:07:49 justification and sanctification is
02:07:51 upping the game
02:07:54 um so justification the act of
02:07:56 justifying
02:07:57 or showing to be just or or conformable
02:08:02 to the law
02:08:04 rectitude or proprietary Vindication
02:08:08 which is what Yeshua does at the judge
02:08:10 for us because of his merits right
02:08:13 the court listened to the evidence
02:08:16 and arguments and justification of the
02:08:18 prisoner’s conduct our Disobedience to
02:08:21 God’s Commandments amidst no
02:08:22 justification
02:08:24 and that’s right it’s because our
02:08:27 righteous acts it’s yeshua’s Absolution
02:08:30 is just another word for forgiveness
02:08:34 uh in the law
02:08:36 showing of sufficient reason in court
02:08:38 why a defendant did what he is called to
02:08:42 answer please and justification must be
02:08:45 set forth in a special matter so the
02:08:48 police that goes to Yeshua because we
02:08:51 plea in the name of Yeshua and we’re
02:08:53 supposed to seek out our salvation with
02:08:55 fear and troubling playing crying and
02:08:59 clean and theology the remission of sins
02:09:01 and Absolution from guilt and punishment
02:09:04 or act of free Grace from God pardons
02:09:07 The Sinner and accepts him as righteous
02:09:09 on account of the atonement of Christ
02:09:12 AKA
02:09:14 the marriage and uh what he did in the
02:09:17 last days when he bled from every poor
02:09:19 and went to the Cross right that’s the
02:09:21 atonement
02:09:23 um so
02:09:26 did that answer your question some
02:09:28 anyways
02:09:30 uh yes yes I’m pulling through things
02:09:33 yeah yeah thank you do you want to add
02:09:36 anything Ben
02:09:37 ah that was pretty I thought that was a
02:09:41 I think we’ve covered it pretty well
02:09:43 yeah
02:09:45 the the idea of the justification allows
02:09:49 us to see the Kingdom of Heaven whereas
02:09:50 sanctification brings us into it please
02:09:55 in which case we and after which we have
02:09:58 to
02:10:00 maintain ourselves in the Sanctified
02:10:02 State through obedience to the law
02:10:05 showing that we love our savior
02:10:10 you mean when Yeshua said if you love me
02:10:12 keep me keep my Commandments he meant it
02:10:15 Yeah well yeah but now without the split
02:10:19 errors now we have to split errors over
02:10:21 which Commandments are his Commandments
02:10:23 as opposed to just some some Joe schmoe
02:10:27 on a mountain with a stat who who told
02:10:30 us he got it from God yeah exactly in
02:10:34 fact you know I I’m just going to say
02:10:36 bring this one in okay yes
02:10:39 oh come on
02:10:44 let’s see this one
02:10:47 um Moses okay regarding Moses that Joe
02:10:50 small on that mountain okay
02:10:52 do you have believed Moses
02:10:55 you should have believed me or he was
02:10:58 day
02:11:02 but you believe not his writings how
02:11:04 shall you believe my words which you
02:11:07 know that sounds pretty much what Yeshua
02:11:09 said to Nicodemus right
02:11:12 if you don’t believe Earthly things oh
02:11:15 you know how you believe Heavenly things
02:11:17 yep
02:11:19 and it’s all about that law right there
02:11:22 but anyways where if you believed Moses
02:11:25 you would have believed me for he wrote
02:11:27 of me but you believed not his writings
02:11:30 how shall you believe my words
02:11:32 it
02:11:33 if you don’t believe Moses you really
02:11:36 don’t believe Yeshua even if you claim
02:11:38 you do you really don’t
02:11:40 that is if you believe Yeshua I I’m just
02:11:44 repeating what he said
02:11:47 it hasn’t changed if the argument if
02:11:50 anybody wants to argue with that is
02:11:52 arguing with Jesus Christ yeah I’m just
02:11:55 repeating and expounding
02:11:57 I didn’t make it up
02:12:00 uh so here’s one from The Book of Mormon
02:12:03 I did read many things so this is Nephi
02:12:05 unto them which were written in the
02:12:08 Books of Moses so the first five books
02:12:10 of the Bible but that I might more fully
02:12:14 persuade them
02:12:16 to believe in the Lord their redeemer
02:12:20 and I did read unto them which was
02:12:22 written by the prophet Isaiah for I did
02:12:24 like in all scriptures unto us that
02:12:27 it might be for a prophet and learning
02:12:30 Nephi what what yeah anyways if I used
02:12:36 Moses to get people to believe in their
02:12:39 redeemer
02:12:41 I I try to do the same thing
02:12:44 [Music]
02:12:45 um I’m sure Nephi and Yeshua is a lot
02:12:48 better at it than I am but I do try
02:12:51 uh anyways well Nephi always talked
02:12:55 about how he was mighty and
02:12:57 wasn’t mine yeah Mighty and speaking and
02:13:02 uh most of the Mormon prophets said that
02:13:05 though yeah I didn’t speak even crappy
02:13:07 at writing
02:13:09 yeah uh
02:13:11 uh if I said it in second Nephi four if
02:13:14 I remember correctly yeah anyways
02:13:17 uh he said a lot of those uh just just
02:13:20 there’s another question Stephen sure
02:13:22 um the process of
02:13:25 justification certification and
02:13:28 is simultaneous it just happened at the
02:13:32 same time always has to follow on fire
02:13:34 it’s a so sanctification
02:13:37 is more of a continual process in fact I
02:13:41 would even say justification and
02:13:43 sanctification is a continual process
02:13:45 because when you go look in the New
02:13:47 Testament and Revelations and the Book
02:13:50 of Mormon it teaches baptisms
02:13:53 just justifications education or
02:13:56 processes the baptisms are events
02:14:00 correct yeah
02:14:02 um so so you so technically you put it
02:14:07 this way that you need to sanctify
02:14:09 yourself
02:14:10 as a process daily and justifies our
02:14:13 daily because of our
02:14:15 power of
02:14:17 um
02:14:17 so we got to be careful with that
02:14:19 statement though okay because initially
02:14:22 it probably will be daily but as we’ve
02:14:25 done this for a while it shouldn’t be
02:14:27 daily anymore if that makes sense
02:14:29 because you shouldn’t keep
02:14:32 before and so you should be sinning less
02:14:35 and less and less to the point you’re
02:14:36 not sitting anymore
02:14:39 so initially it may be daily but it
02:14:41 should get to the point where it’s not
02:14:42 daily
02:14:47 yeah because if it doesn’t get to that
02:14:51 point then you’re not getting Sanctified
02:14:53 and you’re not getting Justified and
02:14:55 you’re not really repenting
02:14:58 because if you always have to keep
02:15:00 repenting you’re not really returning to
02:15:02 the law which repenting
02:15:04 is repentance is returning to the law
02:15:08 and if you’re returning the law you’re
02:15:10 not sinning
02:15:11 which means you don’t need to repent
02:15:13 so
02:15:15 there should be a day if you’re really
02:15:17 working at this that you’ll you won’t
02:15:20 repent
02:15:21 and you’ll just keep doing that now you
02:15:23 may fall but then you just repent again
02:15:26 but you should get to the point where
02:15:28 you’re not continually repenting because
02:15:31 you’re not continually sinning
02:15:33 it is possible
02:15:35 to do that regardless what Christians
02:15:39 say Christians love to say I can do
02:15:41 anything in Christ except keep Torah
02:15:43 that’s in the fine print except keep
02:15:45 tour
02:15:48 I cry but luckily but luckily there
02:15:51 Christ doesn’t require them to oh yeah
02:15:54 in fact on that point Christians will
02:15:57 say well the law was nailed to the cross
02:15:59 so I always ask so if the Law’s done
02:16:01 away with
02:16:03 why do you need a savior because you’re
02:16:05 not sinning
02:16:09 none of them have an answer to that
02:16:12 you only need a savior because you’ve
02:16:14 sinned
02:16:18 now here’s where it gets
02:16:23 Christians and Jews both have this
02:16:25 problem okay there’s a difference
02:16:27 between Torah and the law of Moses
02:16:31 Torah is the Eternal law
02:16:33 Moses is the daily performance and
02:16:35 ordinances that were given as a
02:16:38 punishment when the Israelites and the
02:16:40 mixed multitude
02:16:41 broke the Covenant at Mount Sinai and I
02:16:44 I mean we can look at that briefly if
02:16:47 you want but
02:16:48 that’s a big subject but if that’s
02:16:51 helpful we can look into that but
02:16:52 there’s a difference between Torah and
02:16:54 the law of Moses and that that trips a
02:16:57 lot of people up because sorry go ahead
02:17:00 I think we can just talk step briefly on
02:17:04 the the law in the Torah because it’s
02:17:07 very important because you know the the
02:17:09 that’s why as you said no most of the
02:17:11 Christian or the Believers know we don’t
02:17:13 take that seriously of
02:17:16 of how the importance of following the
02:17:19 term
02:17:21 no Christians don’t
02:17:23 um
02:17:24 so
02:17:25 here’s a general rule of thumb okay Jews
02:17:29 add to the law and you’ll see Christ
02:17:31 chew out for their false Traditions that
02:17:33 they add to the law to the Torah right
02:17:36 all throughout the New Testament and
02:17:38 Paul does it too in in books of Acts in
02:17:40 other places okay
02:17:43 on the other hand Christians take away
02:17:46 from the law
02:17:48 and so they both have their own problems
02:17:50 where I’m a Nazarene I’m
02:17:53 I’m in the middle and hopefully I’m in
02:17:56 in the perfect middle but I’m probably
02:17:58 it might depend on what day alone
02:17:59 because I’m still figuring things out
02:18:01 right but I’m I’m somewhere in the
02:18:02 middle where
02:18:05 we need to keep law in fact we just read
02:18:07 some verses right it says we’re
02:18:09 Sanctified by the law
02:18:13 and if you’re not keeping it
02:18:16 you have a problem I mean we get some
02:18:19 leeway to learn it
02:18:21 but there’s going to be a point if you
02:18:24 haven’t learned it and you’re not
02:18:25 keeping it you’re getting kicked out of
02:18:26 his house you’re going to get capped out
02:18:28 of y’all yahweh’s house if you don’t
02:18:32 work on learning it and keeping it thus
02:18:35 deceiving yourself only hearing the word
02:18:38 and not doing it deceiving yourself
02:18:42 so real
02:18:45 honest believers
02:18:47 strive to keep the law hi Matt amen
02:18:52 so anyways yes there is grace and mercy
02:18:56 but those are not licenses to keep
02:18:59 sinning
02:19:01 their forgiveness of your past
02:19:03 all is Paul is very adamant about that
02:19:07 yeah it’s they’re also about receiving
02:19:10 an award that we don’t deserve too so I
02:19:13 and we don’t deserve it
02:19:15 so when Satan tells you you don’t
02:19:18 deserve it tell them you’re right or
02:19:19 tell him he’s right
02:19:21 but that doesn’t matter because I’m
02:19:24 under the authority of Yeshua who does
02:19:27 deserve it and I’m covered with his
02:19:29 white garments
02:19:31 thanks only going to tell you half the
02:19:34 truth that makes him look like he’s
02:19:36 right
02:19:37 you need to go tell Satan the whole
02:19:39 truth and nothing but the truth
02:19:43 he can’t handle the truth he can’t
02:19:46 that’s why he got kicked out right yeah
02:19:51 well but what about all those truths
02:19:53 that he tells that he mixes in with the
02:19:56 why or to sell the LIE well that’s the
02:20:00 problem the twisting and the mixing
02:20:04 right no I’m just saying
02:20:07 I I’m just merely making a point though
02:20:10 that he does he can handle the truth in
02:20:13 very effective ways but it’s more
02:20:15 resting of the truth than actual
02:20:18 teaching of truths well I wouldn’t call
02:20:21 that handling
02:20:22 or correct handling it well right right
02:20:25 it’s still a time it’s a still former
02:20:28 I’m just playing The Devil’s Advocate
02:20:30 yeah yeah that’s all I think I’m about
02:20:33 to take this pen and poke him in the eye
02:20:35 with it
02:20:37 right here
02:20:41 so Ben have you ever looked at a wolf or
02:20:44 Matt have you ever looked at a woman
02:20:45 anyways
02:20:49 there’s a continuation from the uh I
02:20:52 think uh Benji was stating though like
02:20:56 the the Notions of seeing the kingdom
02:20:59 and entering the kingdom then this is
02:21:02 when you when you enter the kingdom you
02:21:05 have to maintain that you’ll be staying
02:21:07 obedience to the law okay question Falls
02:21:10 there how does a person like knowing no
02:21:13 more go back to the rituals of us of
02:21:15 sacrifice how does a a Believer maintain
02:21:19 their status to
02:21:21 to be a business in obedience to the law
02:21:24 in the spiritual demand it’s Benji
02:21:28 how do you how do you maintain that
02:21:34 you go learn by alert by learning by a
02:21:39 continual study
02:21:41 and keeping the law
02:21:45 as you study the law more and more its
02:21:48 Mysteries will be unfolded to you and as
02:21:52 its Mysteries are unfolded to you you
02:21:54 have to be obedient to those as well
02:21:56 it’s constant uh it’s
02:22:00 stated quite beautifully and it’s enough
02:22:04 uh where Samuel was talking to Saul the
02:22:08 king
02:22:09 and he tells them to obey is better than
02:22:13 to sacrifice
02:22:15 and obedience is better than the thought
02:22:17 of rams
02:22:19 yeah
02:22:20 and so the way that we maintain
02:22:23 ourselves in the way of Christ
02:22:26 is by keeping his Commandments
02:22:30 which when we are which when we are
02:22:33 aversed in the law
02:22:36 those are brought to our those are
02:22:39 brought to our remembrance
02:22:41 and knew what and uh
02:22:45 not necessarily new ones but more but
02:22:49 more complete understanding of The
02:22:51 Commandments is constantly unveiled to
02:22:54 us
02:22:55 yeah and just maybe to make it a little
02:22:57 simpler go read the first five books of
02:23:00 the Bible and if anything maybe start
02:23:02 with Deuteronomy
02:23:04 um actually you know it’s interesting
02:23:06 how the Lord
02:23:08 charted my course through the first five
02:23:10 books of Moses yeah
02:23:12 was actually the reprimand where he
02:23:15 start where I decided to go to the book
02:23:18 of Deuteronomy and read it the
02:23:19 light-hearted way oh and he corrected me
02:23:22 and he started me in the book of
02:23:24 Deuteronomy
02:23:26 then he sent me to uh to Leviticus and
02:23:30 then numbers and exodus was actually the
02:23:34 last book that I read
02:23:36 well
02:23:39 I I tend to believe that Deuteronomy is
02:23:43 yeshua’s favorite book out of the wall
02:23:45 uh oh absolutely oh yeah I think that’s
02:23:49 the one he coached the most the language
02:23:50 the language Deuteronomy is all over his
02:23:53 speeches and sermons yeah it go on
02:23:56 because he was quoting it yeah yeah or
02:24:00 summarizing it or oh yeah right
02:24:04 um in fact it’s all over The Sermon on
02:24:06 the Mount yeah but if you don’t go read
02:24:09 it you won’t know that
02:24:11 um in fact The Sermon on the Mount right
02:24:13 people consider that Christ’s greatest
02:24:16 sermon of his ministry right
02:24:19 and that’s teaching the law that’s
02:24:22 teaching people how to keep Torah
02:24:24 you know the Deuteronomy
02:24:28 is how God tells his people how to
02:24:31 remain his people
02:24:35 how to maintain themselves as his people
02:24:39 this is why Deuteronomy is such an
02:24:42 important book
02:24:47 and the first and I will tell you this
02:24:50 the first Mark of an antichrist is that
02:24:52 they will try to get you to
02:24:56 not trust
02:24:58 the law
02:24:59 the law
02:25:01 and especially the book of Deuteronomy
02:25:04 and what oh wait a minute could be one
02:25:07 of his names the Lawless one yeah
02:25:12 sorry it’s just so obvious when you know
02:25:14 this stuff
02:25:16 yeah so that’s the thing is Deuteronomy
02:25:20 is a key
02:25:22 to maintain the book of Deuteronomy
02:25:25 uh being very well aware of it
02:25:28 continually reading it
02:25:32 and applying
02:25:35 yeah you need to do
02:25:36 the gospel
02:25:38 Yeshua was about becoming not knowing I
02:25:42 mean knowing is part of it but ultimate
02:25:44 goal is to become yeah you can’t become
02:25:47 what you don’t know yeah so Sermon on
02:25:50 the Mount right we could look at lots of
02:25:52 Parts but I’ll talk
02:25:56 that’s true
02:25:58 Well we’d go look at five if you want to
02:26:00 right here here we are well we can do
02:26:02 five next I’ll let Matt do that one
02:26:04 because I think I heard him say five
02:26:05 well I’m just saying that’s where it
02:26:07 starts well I I know and we could use
02:26:10 that one too right but but yeah so not
02:26:15 everyone that saith on to me Yahweh
02:26:18 Yahweh shall enter into the kingdom of
02:26:20 heaven so that’s basically you’re my God
02:26:22 right
02:26:23 it’s not everyone says that we’ll enter
02:26:25 the kingdom of heaven but he that oh no
02:26:28 there’s that pesky little word do it
02:26:32 the will of My Father which is in heaven
02:26:35 and what is that what’s his will that’s
02:26:37 Torah
02:26:39 yes hang on to me that day wait also who
02:26:45 also is the mind and will of God
02:26:47 I’m Not Who not who or the what the what
02:26:51 is the what is the mining will of God
02:26:54 the Holy Ghost
02:26:56 it’s the spirit it’s Torah yes Matt just
02:27:01 so you’re aware I on day of atonement I
02:27:04 should have a post that really shows
02:27:06 that Holy Spirit Holy Ghost is the law
02:27:11 yes I I have I’m I’m having a lot of
02:27:15 illusions
02:27:16 you have it ready
02:27:18 that’s getting close it should be I
02:27:20 should have it done on time I hope yeah
02:27:22 well you got 24 hours basically well no
02:27:25 I have to the end of day of atonement so
02:27:28 I have a little more than that oh I see
02:27:30 what you’re saying
02:27:31 I might I might need that extra time but
02:27:34 anyways
02:27:37 reflect your soul on it a little bit
02:27:40 Yeah I will be doing that anyways
02:27:45 um hey back to this many will say to me
02:27:47 in that day Lord Lord have we not
02:27:49 prophesied
02:27:52 have we not cast out Devils have we not
02:27:55 done wonderful Works those are all
02:27:57 really good things right yes
02:28:01 then I will profess unto them I never
02:28:04 knew you
02:28:05 depart from me that worked lawlessness
02:28:08 that you could we can go look at here
02:28:10 let’s go look at Bible Hub
02:28:12 I’ll show you that word is lawlessness
02:28:14 iniquity is lawlessness
02:28:20 but let’s let’s show them
02:28:23 from an unbiased source
02:28:27 [Music]
02:28:28 um
02:28:29 by the way I really like Bible Hub so I
02:28:31 highly recommend Bible Hub is amazing
02:28:35 uh learning there’s there’s several apps
02:28:39 like it
02:28:40 yeah there are I like buyers Treasury
02:28:43 and treasury of scripture knowledge is
02:28:45 pretty good too
02:28:47 I I don’t know that one so there’s other
02:28:49 things like it but this is the for I
02:28:51 probably like it the most because it’s
02:28:52 the first one I did but anyways
02:28:55 I know blue Bible does this I’m just not
02:28:58 familiar with the
02:28:59 um Blue Letter Bible yeah
02:29:01 yeah so anyways
02:29:03 both of them have direct connection to
02:29:05 strongs so oh yeah
02:29:08 um I here I’d like where you can get to
02:29:12 the Interlinear too really easily
02:29:14 but anyways let’s not go there right now
02:29:17 but
02:29:19 um so here’s the brilliant Standard
02:29:21 Bible which I’ve mentioned I I like most
02:29:24 of the time and I will tell you plainly
02:29:27 oh remember that idiom plainly
02:29:31 I will never I never knew you depart
02:29:34 from me you workers of lawlessness
02:29:41 um
02:29:42 so new international says evildoers
02:29:45 which is I mean you’re evil when you
02:29:47 break the law so that one’s not too big
02:29:50 of a deal no Living Translation but I
02:29:52 will reply I never knew you’d get away
02:29:54 from me you who break God’s laws
02:29:57 lawlessness lawlessness
02:30:00 iniquity which is breaking your law
02:30:02 right lawlessness lawlessness
02:30:04 lawlessness lawlessness most of them are
02:30:07 lawlessness here’s wickedly
02:30:09 law Breakers
02:30:11 law Breakers iniquity
02:30:14 workers of evil
02:30:16 whoa people iniquity
02:30:20 um well I mean if you think about it
02:30:22 though if you actively choose to sin and
02:30:26 break the law you are a worker of evil
02:30:29 oh yeah I mean all these are valid I
02:30:32 think you’re somewhere more valid than
02:30:33 others but
02:30:58 they’re only practicing it
02:31:02 let’s go look at the Greek word okay
02:31:05 yeah for lawlessness
02:31:07 uh
02:31:09 uh so that’s the Greek I don’t know how
02:31:11 to say that but it’s actually not there
02:31:14 you go
02:31:15 it actually literally means lawlessness
02:31:19 um
02:31:20 utter disregard for God’s law well that
02:31:23 sounds like lawlessness
02:31:25 is written in Living Word yeah I would
02:31:27 agree with that
02:31:29 including
02:31:30 end impact of law breaking
02:31:34 negative influence on a person’s soul
02:31:37 well that’s what lawlessness does right
02:31:41 um laws so that’s um strongs and that’s
02:31:45 helps
02:31:48 um Nas exhaustive con concordance I like
02:31:51 also
02:31:52 um Lawless
02:31:54 Lawless Lawless it’s they’re all always
02:31:57 there and then here’s there’s Greek
02:32:00 Lexicon
02:32:02 and this one gets
02:32:04 a little harder to follow but it’s one
02:32:07 without the law contempt violation of
02:32:10 law
02:32:12 uh Strong’s exhaustive iniquity
02:32:15 transgression unrighteousness which is
02:32:17 lawlessness sometimes Strong’s isn’t
02:32:20 bold enough in my opinion sometimes and
02:32:22 then that I can’t read I don’t know
02:32:24 about you but I can’t read
02:32:27 that seems problematic to me
02:32:30 what does this part right here yeah
02:32:33 what is that
02:32:36 oh that’s Greek
02:32:37 those are the different forms
02:32:44 all right
02:32:47 and then over here you can go look at
02:32:49 the the concordance englishman’s
02:32:52 concordance it shows everywhere that
02:32:53 that word or form of word is used and
02:32:57 some of the different translations of it
02:32:59 and those verses so I I mean
02:33:03 if you really I know me like your
02:33:07 favorite translations bad one on this
02:33:10 one it’s really hard to get away with it
02:33:12 to be honest I know Mia if you actually
02:33:14 listen to it that’s enemy
02:33:19 I can see that that’s enemy
02:33:24 yeah yeah and your fear of all this you
02:33:27 are an enemy to God yes
02:33:30 natural man is an enemy to God has been
02:33:32 from the fall of Adam will be forever
02:33:34 and ever unless yields to the entire
02:33:36 sins of the Holy Spirit but without the
02:33:39 natural man can become of the saint to
02:33:41 the atonement of Christ the lord who’s
02:33:43 coming to This Little Child meek
02:33:47 love
02:33:51 and how is that
02:33:59 uh
02:34:03 verse 19. is it okay
02:34:06 I don’t have it memorized
02:34:09 there we go patient full of love William
02:34:11 Smith all things which the Lord seeth to
02:34:14 inflict upon him even as a child that
02:34:16 submit to his father and this is
02:34:17 something that I bring out to people all
02:34:20 the time
02:34:21 what is it that the Lord seeth fit to
02:34:23 inflict upon us
02:34:24 it is the law
02:34:27 everything else that happens in this
02:34:29 life is not from is not something that’s
02:34:32 inflicted Upon Us by God
02:34:35 uh he’ll allow things to happen but he
02:34:38 doesn’t but he doesn’t inflict he’s not
02:34:40 actually he doesn’t actively put that
02:34:42 upon us right the only thing that he
02:34:44 actively puts upon us is the law yeah I
02:34:47 would agree with that
02:34:49 even as a child they’ll submit to his
02:34:51 father
02:34:54 yeah see so this is the so and that ties
02:34:58 it all together showing that this is the
02:35:01 process by which we become the adopted
02:35:04 Sons
02:35:05 of God
02:35:07 that’s how we become or adopted is
02:35:10 accepting the law
02:35:12 you put off the natural man
02:35:15 becomes become a saint in the atonement
02:35:19 because it’s by acceptance of the law
02:35:22 and also by the merits and mercy of
02:35:26 Jesus Christ
02:35:27 yeah
02:35:30 um because they’re evolved
02:35:32 yeah see and Worthy
02:35:36 is that even if the even if we’re
02:35:39 righteous even if we’re obeying the law
02:35:43 the Lord blesses us
02:35:47 so we’re still in debt yeah we’re still
02:35:49 in his debt I think that’s this later on
02:35:52 in this discourse King Benjamin chapter
02:35:55 four yeah chapter four Benjamin goes
02:35:57 over that
02:35:59 yeah this is still uh or is it
02:36:04 that’s in that section about imparting
02:36:07 your substance to the poor
02:36:09 okay I’m just trying to
02:36:11 oh indebted
02:36:20 or is it five
02:36:23 no so
02:36:29 I’m happy
02:36:31 oh yeah
02:36:34 here goes my Seminary verses
02:36:40 try for go back to four again okay I
02:36:42 think it gets chapter four hold on oh
02:36:45 that’s
02:36:49 isn’t it indebted am I spelling it wrong
02:36:52 in Texas yeah i n d right yes
02:36:58 stop skipping so fast I’m trying to
02:37:00 sorry I don’t read as fast as you do
02:37:03 well
02:37:06 I was skimming for indebted uh it’s
02:37:09 actually the
02:37:11 Mosaic 2. oh well that’s why we’re not
02:37:14 seeing it really yes
02:37:17 I say uh starting in verse 21.
02:37:22 they say unto you that if you should
02:37:24 serve him you have created you from the
02:37:27 beginning and it’s preserving you from
02:37:29 day to day by lending you breath that
02:37:31 you may live and move and do according
02:37:33 to your own will and even supporting you
02:37:35 from one moment to another I say if he
02:37:38 shall if he should serve him with all
02:37:40 your old souls yet he would be
02:37:42 unprofitable servants and behold all
02:37:44 that he requires of you is to keep his
02:37:46 Commandments and he has promised that
02:37:47 you that if you would keep his
02:37:50 Commandments you should prosper in the
02:37:52 land and he never doth vary from that
02:37:55 which he had said therefore if you do
02:37:58 keep his Commandments he does bless you
02:38:00 and prosper you and now in the first
02:38:03 place he hath created you and granted
02:38:04 unto you your lives for which you are
02:38:07 indebted unto him and secondly he does
02:38:09 require that you should do as he hath
02:38:11 commanded you for which if ye do he does
02:38:14 immediately bless you and therefore he
02:38:16 hath paid you and ye are still indebted
02:38:20 unto him and are and will be for ever
02:38:23 and ever therefore of what have ye to
02:38:26 boast
02:38:28 we have nothing about stuff
02:38:32 so FYI mosiah 2 through 5 was given
02:38:35 during Tabernacles
02:38:38 was given during what Tabernacles or
02:38:40 Tabernacles yeah yep yep that makes
02:38:43 sense as to why everybody’s gathering
02:38:45 together and well sure
02:38:48 who’s making a tabernacle and what are
02:38:51 the speeches about primarily the coming
02:38:53 king and the kingdom yep it just it just
02:38:59 fits but anyways
02:39:01 but that’s because we know this feasts
02:39:03 so it’s not a lot more sense
02:39:07 um
02:39:08 in fact in here I forget is it chapter I
02:39:12 forget which one but it talks about how
02:39:13 he shall Tabernacle man us talking about
02:39:17 his birth bring out how he’ll be born
02:39:19 during Tabernacles
02:39:22 just like the New Testament states that
02:39:25 he’ll be tabernacled among us and that
02:39:27 he did Tabernacle right
02:39:30 [Music]
02:39:31 and I have some stuff here let’s go look
02:39:34 real quick just since I opened my mouth
02:39:42 oh resource resources you don’t go
02:39:44 resources resources that’s silly
02:39:48 so if you want us
02:39:50 Chinook Curry I am sorry I said your
02:39:52 name wrong
02:39:53 I have some stuff here on that
02:39:57 um
02:39:57 [Music]
02:39:59 uh here here’s a couple things oh it’s
02:40:02 Isaiah 3 5.
02:40:04 that says it in mosiah but you you’re
02:40:06 good in the New Testament you’ll see
02:40:08 some of those with these resources here
02:40:11 it’s even in the Stars
02:40:13 that’s what that’s that one’s about this
02:40:15 the Nazareth of the Stars
02:40:18 um so anyways
02:40:24 crazy with those Stars prophesy when you
02:40:27 let them yeah
02:40:31 um but here I’ll if you want
02:40:35 here’s
02:40:38 my stars constellation mazaroth Resource
02:40:41 page you can go see a lot of details on
02:40:43 that
02:40:44 um so
02:40:46 this
02:40:47 sting of the Scorpions my favorite one
02:40:49 if you want to start with that one but
02:40:51 yeah
02:40:53 there’s others out there some are better
02:40:55 than others the next cycle the next
02:40:58 cycle for the new moon pretty much
02:41:00 starts after that Sabbath correct the
02:41:03 dark dark conjunction
02:41:05 uh that’s new moon day but yes
02:41:08 right which is a Sabbath because a new
02:41:11 moon day is a Sabbath right it’s the
02:41:13 25th of this month right it starts the
02:41:15 new cycle uh no that’s uh transition day
02:41:19 it’s the 26th
02:41:21 transition days the 26th no transition
02:41:24 days the 25th New Moon day is the 26th
02:41:27 oh okay okay so I
02:41:30 if you’ll see here you’ll see
02:41:33 an orange and then a red the orange
02:41:36 gosh yeah yeah and that’s this month
02:41:40 right yes according to the Gregory
02:41:42 calendar yeah well this is so if you if
02:41:46 you got my app yet well I got your app I
02:41:50 just have yet to sit down and figure it
02:41:52 out I have a little I don’t have awesome
02:41:55 phones oh okay so one thing you can tell
02:41:59 if you look and you try to get it closer
02:42:03 you’re good you’re good yeah you’ll see
02:42:06 on the first one you’ll see a 30 and
02:42:08 then on the second one you’ll see a one
02:42:10 oh yeah okay I got you on the small
02:42:13 numbers it might be hard to see no I see
02:42:16 it I actually I see it oh okay
02:42:19 um and so
02:42:21 the big numbers so it has different
02:42:23 modes right the Gagarin mode The Big
02:42:25 Numbers the gagarina number okay right
02:42:27 the small ones are the lunar solar
02:42:31 uh now if you go to
02:42:33 the lunar solar mode
02:42:37 you’ll see here this one is a little
02:42:39 more obvious that there’s 30 because
02:42:41 we’ll see the red for new moon and the
02:42:44 orange at the bottom for transition
02:42:46 it sticks out a lot more obviously than
02:42:49 it does with the Gregorian but then the
02:42:51 small numbers are the Gregorian month
02:42:53 and day so then the Sabbath for the next
02:42:57 cycle is Wednesday Wednesday
02:43:01 gotcha
02:43:03 now if you want the reason why it’s so
02:43:06 slow and starting and I’m working on
02:43:08 fixing this
02:43:09 if you go to the Gregorian yearly mode
02:43:12 you can see them for the all the whole
02:43:13 Gregorian
02:43:18 is because as 365 times five controls on
02:43:25 it so that’s a lot of controls in it
02:43:27 that is a lot of controls it causes
02:43:30 problems and I I’m I’m working on an
02:43:33 update so that way
02:43:34 it’ll load this page according to a
02:43:38 setting
02:43:40 um I’m just I’m having to learn how to
02:43:43 do some of the stuff in code rather than
02:43:46 xaml and I’ve run into another problem
02:43:50 um so I I got past one problem after
02:43:53 saying a prayer speaking of prayers I
02:43:55 got an answer after one prayer and you
02:43:57 know what it was a quick prayer too it
02:44:00 wasn’t an hour prayer
02:44:03 wow I should start harping on that huh
02:44:07 um
02:44:08 the thing is it’s not required
02:44:12 it’s these are things that are not
02:44:14 required in the law
02:44:16 if you exhibit even in a quick prayer
02:44:20 Stephen if you exhibit a broken heart
02:44:22 and contrite spirit with the absolute
02:44:25 desire to want to do what’s best for
02:44:28 everybody the Lord’s gonna answer you
02:44:30 regardless of what kind of a prayer it
02:44:32 is yes all has to do with the desire and
02:44:36 if it fits into the will of God now in
02:44:40 this part doesn’t matter but it was
02:44:41 during my High Noon prayer and this will
02:44:43 tell you a high noon in your local time
02:44:46 yeah so I’ll tell you every day
02:44:49 I go look here at between the mornings
02:44:52 high noons and between the evenings I go
02:44:54 to my alarms and I go set them every day
02:44:56 because they change a little bit every
02:44:58 day
02:45:01 because it’s according to the sun and
02:45:03 the sundial
02:45:05 later I’ll make it so in the pro version
02:45:08 it’ll do that automatically for you but
02:45:11 right now I don’t have that done so I do
02:45:12 it by hand every day
02:45:14 but it gives you the numbers so you can
02:45:17 go do it by hand even in the free one
02:45:19 that’ll always give you the numbers in
02:45:21 the pro it’ll do it for you
02:45:23 automatically on the alarms
02:45:25 um but anyways
02:45:28 um so the lunar solar makes the 30th day
02:45:31 more obvious but if you look at it the
02:45:35 30s in Orange
02:45:37 the first is in red
02:45:41 um
02:45:43 and now that I told you it’ll probably
02:45:44 be more obvious to you but if nothing
02:45:46 else go look at the small numbers yeah
02:45:50 okay I’m I’m still trying to uh find
02:45:54 time to look at that but I was just
02:45:56 doing according to uh
02:46:00 I’d really need to look at the map at
02:46:02 the app a little more I just did a quick
02:46:05 Google search to find out when they said
02:46:08 the new moon was yeah the problem with
02:46:12 that is sometimes they’ll go by the
02:46:14 Hillel calendar yeah sometimes they’ll
02:46:16 go by the 20 and a half I mean the 29
02:46:20 and a half day calculations yeah
02:46:23 it’s very rarely that you’ll find
02:46:25 anybody that will go off of the 29 Point
02:46:28 noon 20 damn 29.2 to 29.9 day lunar
02:46:34 cycle
02:46:35 then there’s a and then there’s always
02:46:37 the uh
02:46:39 where my program goes the time
02:46:43 then there’s always the people who want
02:46:45 to insist that the new moon is not the
02:46:47 new moon the new moon is actually the
02:46:49 first uh visible present yeah well I
02:46:53 have scriptures for that and history for
02:46:55 that
02:46:57 uh
02:46:59 Stephen that’s a common refrain on these
02:47:02 calls I’ve got a verse for that yeah you
02:47:05 here I’ll show it to you I’m not kidding
02:47:11 I I’ve done my homework I I realized I
02:47:14 could see that
02:47:16 there’s a lot of things I’m still
02:47:18 figuring out but on a lot of things I’ve
02:47:20 done my homework
02:47:21 yeah
02:47:23 and hopefully people can see that now
02:47:25 I’ve got a question for you oh there we
02:47:27 are look right here
02:47:29 oh wait what is this
02:47:32 song
02:47:34 oh this is blasphemy oh yeah um using
02:47:38 Psalms to backup report so another thing
02:47:42 that Yeshua would like to quote was
02:47:43 Psalms songs
02:47:45 you are right about it Psalms teaches
02:47:48 the law and that’s one place you could
02:47:50 start because even people who don’t like
02:47:51 the law they like Psalms so that could
02:47:53 be an easy end for people if you want to
02:47:56 be softer
02:47:57 so just another little tidbit for you
02:47:59 yeah and the other one he liked was
02:48:03 Isaiah don’t use that one
02:48:06 that one’s for the advanced people
02:48:09 don’t don’t use Isaiah to get people
02:48:11 interested in the law that one’s more
02:48:13 prophecy
02:48:15 um well I think it’s interesting
02:48:17 there’s a section of Isaiah where
02:48:20 the tone of his text like the tax study
02:48:25 writes
02:48:27 is almost
02:48:29 I think it’s chapter 29 where it almost
02:48:32 seems like he’s mocking this idea of
02:48:35 line upon line precept upon preset
02:48:38 uh like the overtones the overtones of
02:48:42 it sound like he’s mocking the idea
02:48:44 like the Lord could give you so much
02:48:46 right here right now
02:48:49 but he can’t he has to give it to you
02:48:52 line upon line precept upon pre-step
02:48:54 because you refuse
02:48:58 to open yourself up
02:49:00 to the greater light so I I’ve heard Ben
02:49:03 say that I haven’t looked at it let’s go
02:49:04 look at that since this is the second
02:49:07 time
02:49:10 too busy with other things I I can’t
02:49:12 hear you I mean I’m trying to finish
02:49:14 this other post I don’t need to go study
02:49:16 that one out on my own
02:49:22 so now that we’re having a study session
02:49:24 might as well right yeah yeah well this
02:49:27 is fellowship so the thing about the
02:49:30 pagans right this idea that only one is
02:49:34 in front doing all the teaching that’s a
02:49:36 pagan idea
02:49:37 the Creations in the New Testament
02:49:40 didn’t do that did you watch the
02:49:42 conference Stephen by chance no I didn’t
02:49:45 watch any of it I’ve seen some of the
02:49:47 memes Nelson president Nelson basically
02:49:49 said goodbye to everybody
02:49:52 and president Oaks didn’t even give a he
02:49:57 said they would re-adjourn but he didn’t
02:49:58 give a specific date
02:50:01 that’s interesting yeah
02:50:04 ah
02:50:06 okay so is the precept 29
02:50:09 I I’m looking right now I did line up
02:50:12 online let me do precept upon precept
02:50:16 no I don’t think it’s
02:50:18 I don’t think it’s 29 but it’s somewhere
02:50:21 it is in Isaiah
02:50:23 well yeah so I I have a post on that
02:50:29 sorry uh
02:50:33 oh it’s 28 it’s 28. oh okay well it’s
02:50:38 just saying
02:50:40 woe to the drunkards of Ephraim
02:50:42 but look I do have a post so anyways
02:50:47 you do
02:50:49 yeah
02:50:52 from whose glorious beauty is a Fading
02:50:55 Flower which are on the head of the fat
02:50:58 valleys of them that are overcome with
02:51:00 wine
02:51:04 you know what that connects flowers too
02:51:06 that connects it to Torah
02:51:09 yeah I hadn’t caught that before anyways
02:51:12 okay sorry
02:51:13 one strong one which has a tempest to
02:51:16 fail and destroying the storm has a
02:51:19 flood of Mighty Waters overflowing shall
02:51:21 cast down the road with the hand the
02:51:23 crown of the pride drunkards of Ephraim
02:51:25 shall be traveling with Beats
02:51:29 foreign
02:51:39 oh wait yeah
02:51:41 and for a spirit of judgment to him that
02:51:43 suits in judgment and for strength for
02:51:44 them that turned the battle to the gate
02:51:47 I’m sorry I’m falling asleep no you’re
02:51:51 good
02:51:52 um let’s let’s continue reading the
02:51:54 verse four and the Glorious Beauty which
02:51:56 is on the head of the fat Valley shall
02:51:58 be a Fading Flower and as the Hasty
02:52:01 fruit once again he’s reiterating that
02:52:03 idea that concept right this whole idea
02:52:06 of hasty fruit
02:52:07 and as the Hasty fruit before summer
02:52:09 which when he that looketh upon it seeth
02:52:12 while it is yet in his hand he eateth it
02:52:15 up in that day shall the Lord of hosts
02:52:18 be for a Crown of Glory and for a diadem
02:52:20 of beauty which the unto the residue of
02:52:22 his people
02:52:24 and for a spirit of judgment to him that
02:52:27 sinneth in judgment and for strength to
02:52:29 them that turn the battle to the gate
02:52:32 well they also have aired through wine
02:52:34 and through strong drink
02:52:37 are out of the way the priests and the
02:52:39 prophet have aired through strong drink
02:52:41 they are swallowed up of wine they are
02:52:45 out of the way through strong drink they
02:52:47 air Envision they stumble in judgment
02:52:50 you know one thing that I have figured
02:52:52 out what is wine or like the the strong
02:52:57 drink and the wine and the Airing
02:52:59 through the line
02:53:02 it’s actually talking about
02:53:07 the taking uh taking into ourselves
02:53:11 yeah uh
02:53:14 taking into ourselves uh
02:53:18 those things that are holy but not being
02:53:21 willing to become
02:53:24 like reading the scriptures versus
02:53:27 studying them out
02:53:30 so I’m going to disagree with you
02:53:32 so wine deals with blood
02:53:34 yes it’s the blood of the Saints that’s
02:53:37 being talked about here yeah yeah
02:53:40 murder they I mean this is not a new
02:53:43 thing they were killing
02:53:45 The Humble Seekers of Christ the Saints
02:53:48 I mean but also but also you it there’s
02:53:52 uh
02:53:54 Alma draws Ahmad draws a correlation
02:53:58 between teaching false Doctrine yeah and
02:54:01 murder
02:54:02 uh yeah
02:54:05 interesting
02:54:08 um when you lay out the The Ten
02:54:10 Commandments and the proper five by five
02:54:12 yeah that aligns murder with going
02:54:17 against Yahweh and so he’s not kidding
02:54:19 and he’s getting that from The Ten
02:54:21 Commandments yeah because you put those
02:54:24 two together when you line five by five
02:54:25 they’re right next to each other
02:54:28 so there’s they have aired through wine
02:54:30 can also be
02:54:33 through the false doctrines that are
02:54:35 taught well yeah that’s what it is
02:54:38 that’s what the other thing I was
02:54:40 getting at too was the idea of false
02:54:42 doctrines taking in false doctrines as
02:54:44 if they’re true and teaching them as if
02:54:47 they’re true doctor well and then also
02:54:48 gets into play with drunkardness
02:54:50 drunkardness has to do with sinning yeah
02:54:53 right because one in itself is fine
02:54:55 right right it’s a joy and it represents
02:54:58 the atonement yeah it also represents it
02:55:02 has a double-edged sword to it right
02:55:04 right so there’s verse eight coming up
02:55:07 here for all the tables are full of
02:55:10 vomit and filthiness so that there is no
02:55:13 place clean
02:55:15 yeah that paint’s a nasty picture I’m
02:55:19 telling you the moment
02:55:21 box
02:55:23 vomits what are you talking about you
02:55:27 don’t like that
02:55:28 yes finest table setting ever anyway he
02:55:33 also goes with that as a dog returning
02:55:35 to his vomit yes yes and that’s also
02:55:38 further in Isaiah
02:55:40 Whom Shall he teach knowledge
02:55:42 and Whom Shall he make to understand
02:55:44 Doctrine them that are weaned from the
02:55:47 milk and drawn from the breasts for
02:55:50 precept must be upon precept precept of
02:55:53 hum precept line upon line will line up
02:55:56 online your little
02:55:59 so okay I’m going to pause a little bit
02:56:01 um for those who don’t know
02:56:04 uh
02:56:05 uh I’m gonna
02:56:09 show this real quick
02:56:12 oh and somewhere on the map anyways so
02:56:16 we’re going to focus on this part
02:56:17 precept is another word for commandment
02:56:22 now okay let’s go to line
02:56:26 a cord for measuring how do you measure
02:56:28 against a standard which is what
02:56:31 the Commandments no no
02:56:35 but now now we have that precept must be
02:56:40 upon precept precept upon precept line
02:56:42 up online line up online here a little
02:56:43 and they’re a little for with stammering
02:56:45 lips and another tongue will he speak to
02:56:48 his people
02:56:49 to whom he said this is the rest
02:56:52 wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest
02:56:54 and this is the refreshing yet they
02:56:56 would not hear
02:56:58 but the word of the Lord was unto them
02:57:00 precept upon precept precept upon
02:57:02 precept line upon line line upon line
02:57:05 here a little and they’re a little that
02:57:08 they might go and fall backward and be
02:57:11 broken and snared and taken well that
02:57:14 doesn’t sound good
02:57:16 so this line upon the line precept upon
02:57:19 precept is a double-edged sword yeah it
02:57:21 is I think you think you’ve been uh I
02:57:23 think you bended into uh
02:57:31 reminds me of the president when Jesus
02:57:33 said that your righteousness
02:57:36 no yeah the Pharisees people are
02:57:40 teaching righteousness oh yeah
02:57:44 so
02:57:46 yeah yeah people of the law you know the
02:57:49 lower land Berlin if how can we wait
02:57:52 they claim though just like what we were
02:57:54 going through with John 3 they claimed
02:57:57 to do it but
02:57:58 because Nicodemus was a Pharisee and yet
02:58:01 he didn’t really know it and Yeshua was
02:58:03 telling him right there calling him out
02:58:05 saying you’re a teacher but you don’t
02:58:07 understand this thing
02:58:08 it’s because they didn’t know the law
02:58:11 that’s on an awful lot like a benedict
02:58:13 with the priest of King Noah oh yeah
02:58:15 yeah same thing but so but like I said
02:58:21 from this it’s clear
02:58:24 that the Lord does not always want to
02:58:26 give us line upon lion and precept upon
02:58:29 precept
02:58:31 he wants us to be able to receive as
02:58:33 much as we are able to receive
02:58:36 for as much as we could Bear by being
02:58:39 better
02:58:41 or this does make it sound like that
02:58:44 these want precept upon precepts are
02:58:47 kind of being kind of lazy right right
02:58:49 yeah
02:58:51 no well it’s not that we’re being lazy
02:58:54 it’s that we’re not hearing we’re not
02:58:58 allowing it to water uh to run freely in
02:59:01 our souls we’re putting up dams and
02:59:04 blockers wow that’s because we’re being
02:59:07 lazy but go ahead um
02:59:14 [Music]
02:59:16 I mean the perceptible perceptional
02:59:19 that’s mentioned in the last few years
02:59:24 is based on obedience so we build
02:59:27 ourselves to build our ourselves up
02:59:31 being and keep on building up in order
02:59:33 to follow through you need to build
02:59:35 yourself from the Lord to become strong
02:59:38 in that in the field to become obedient
02:59:40 still
02:59:41 so the law is meant to build on support
02:59:44 yeah yeah
02:59:47 the law builds us up
02:59:50 in fact like we talked about it
02:59:52 sanctifies us which is building this up
02:59:56 and I love it in verse 14 he says
02:59:59 wherefore hear the word of the Lord you
03:00:03 scornful men that rule this people which
03:00:06 is in Jerusalem he’s sitting there
03:00:08 saying hear it it’s it’s there
03:00:13 well
03:00:17 uh because he have said we have made a
03:00:21 covenant with death and with L are we at
03:00:23 agreement when the overflowing Scourge
03:00:26 shall pass hold on real quick the 14
03:00:29 reminds me of the the man that went to
03:00:33 Abraham’s bosom and the rich man yeah
03:00:34 right yeah
03:00:37 because that’s basically what he just
03:00:38 said Yeshua there with that parable
03:00:41 you already have it they already have it
03:00:44 you don’t need to go back they have the
03:00:46 law and the prophets
03:00:47 they just need to listen to it
03:00:51 yeah
03:00:53 anyways sorry go back to 15. oh you’re
03:00:55 good because you have said we have made
03:00:57 a covenant with death
03:01:00 and with hell are we at agreements
03:01:03 the overflowing Scourge shall pass
03:01:06 through it shall not come unto us for we
03:01:08 have made lies our refuge and under
03:01:11 false so that we hit ourselves dude I’m
03:01:14 sorry
03:01:15 uh we just went through two days of
03:01:19 verse 15.
03:01:24 what do you mean they taught nothing but
03:01:26 falsehoods oh sure sure at conference
03:01:30 okay that’s what you’re getting uh they
03:01:32 botched the doctrine of Christ
03:01:35 it was awful I I saw a meme where they
03:01:39 were uftorf was saying that belonging is
03:01:43 a law now or something like that yes but
03:01:46 yes
03:01:47 where in the world does he get that from
03:01:49 that’s well and he’s also oakdorf I do
03:01:52 believe was the one who was teaching
03:01:54 about uh
03:01:59 basically knocking the cross
03:02:02 what
03:02:04 well basically saying
03:02:06 oh there’s a reason why we don’t wear
03:02:09 the cross or we don’t
03:02:10 pay attention to the Cross as members of
03:02:14 the church because we celebrate you know
03:02:16 that whole president Hinckley we
03:02:17 celebrate the living Christ
03:02:20 yeah I so I would partly agree with them
03:02:23 but for a different reason the crucifix
03:02:25 is pagan
03:02:27 no right but the way he’s approaching it
03:02:30 is wrong
03:02:32 but it was interesting you know in
03:02:34 bringing my history they used to wear
03:02:37 crucifixes
03:02:39 and a lot of their chapels are still
03:02:41 shaped like crew physics’s even Masonic
03:02:44 crucifixes but anyways that’s a whole
03:02:46 nother story so he’s speaking out of
03:02:48 both sides of his mouth oh yeah no there
03:02:51 was tons of double speak throughout this
03:02:53 entire conference the reason they
03:02:55 stopped wearing them
03:02:57 is to convert the Protestants who didn’t
03:03:00 wear them that’s why they stopped yeah I
03:03:03 mean I I think their approach is
03:03:05 completely wrong because it’s Pagan and
03:03:08 that’s how actually how the pagans
03:03:09 worshiped their false gods and yeah
03:03:11 Torah tells us to wear to zits
03:03:13 yeah that’s how we’re supposed to
03:03:15 remember but anyways
03:03:19 um
03:03:21 okay
03:03:22 um yeah you guys want to continue this
03:03:24 conversation
03:03:26 feel free I’m gonna have to check out
03:03:28 I’m falling asleep right here no you’re
03:03:31 good uh but no I’m I’m basically done to
03:03:34 I just I just wanted to
03:03:37 you know go over this section of Isaiah
03:03:40 28 and and just show that there is a
03:03:45 part of Isaiah wherein Isaiah says
03:03:49 this is the only way that you will learn
03:03:51 because you will not open your hearts
03:03:54 completely to it and become what you
03:03:57 need to become and because of that then
03:04:00 that’s the right part of the a huge part
03:04:03 of that is
03:04:05 lazy
03:04:07 right but another part of that is that
03:04:10 natural man sure because even if you did
03:04:12 study if you don’t have your heart in
03:04:14 the right place that’s right you’re not
03:04:16 going to see it so there’s a I see both
03:04:18 parts
03:04:20 yeah
03:04:22 and so uh so yeah I just wanted to bring
03:04:25 that up I just came to my mind to talk
03:04:29 about that yeah that’s good yeah and you
03:04:32 know and basically the idea that we
03:04:33 should not be content yeah with line
03:04:36 upon a line it showed me
03:04:38 sure I mean we’re
03:04:41 I still learn that way in some places
03:04:43 right hopefully I must that way then
03:04:46 before but
03:04:48 um
03:04:51 we all start from the line upon line
03:04:53 place but we need to move past we need
03:04:56 to move through it
03:04:57 correct correct
03:05:02 um especially when you first start
03:05:05 um or trying to help others it this
03:05:07 might be the easiest way to help you all
03:05:10 right yeah
03:05:12 um but anyway I just wanted to go ahead
03:05:14 and cover some uh you know go over that
03:05:17 because I know that’s something that we
03:05:19 had talked about we or mentioned and
03:05:22 haven’t really done a deep
03:05:24 talking about for sure and I just
03:05:27 haven’t spent time on it it’s hard to
03:05:29 spend time on everything yeah right
03:05:32 right no but anyway buddy it’s good to
03:05:35 see you I’m glad I got to spend some
03:05:36 time with you guys tonight yep
03:05:39 um
03:05:40 it was nice to see you come out yeah
03:05:45 all right so yeah we it’s late enough we
03:05:48 should probably call it a night unless
03:05:49 uh anybody else wants to say anything do
03:05:51 you want to say anything
03:05:56 Nathaniel yeah
03:05:58 no no
03:06:00 um um just uh
03:06:02 I mean this is so much to unpack just
03:06:05 for from from where kids will render
03:06:08 join you guys this is solo to unpack
03:06:11 from this from this uh from the Gospel
03:06:15 of John
03:06:17 uh the issues of composition
03:06:20 and scroll along I’ve
03:06:27 I have to thank you guys for
03:06:29 enlightening me more than you know this
03:06:31 is uh I’m taking it another level so I
03:06:33 have to unpack these things I have
03:06:35 taken so far I mean um I pray that I
03:06:39 will join you guys as long as I can with
03:06:42 uh to continue gonna add more with this
03:06:44 studies
03:06:45 uh uh
03:06:49 it’s uh it’s so really enriching you
03:06:51 know and man doesn’t mean more on the
03:06:53 line especially the
03:06:58 the issues of uh of being law abiding no
03:07:02 it’s it’s the kingdom but it’s about the
03:07:05 laws you know that’s the most most uh
03:07:07 don’t take it uh like we will set most
03:07:10 of the Christians you know don’t don’t
03:07:13 believe and follow the the the laws that
03:07:15 we commanded that is about that is the
03:07:18 kingdom law yeah when this is saying
03:07:20 repent we have to go through the laws of
03:07:22 the Kingdom that’s where the Torah comes
03:07:24 in and now I understand more
03:07:32 have been said I will go deeper to
03:07:35 to to dive into and to get me more so I
03:07:38 can be cubed well so I can share the
03:07:40 truth you know on their life thank you
03:07:42 so so much Steve and Benji for
03:07:45 having me in this uh this hour last few
03:07:47 hours yeah
03:07:49 you’re welcome and it comes with time
03:07:52 yeah don’t worry if you don’t see it
03:07:55 right away
03:07:57 um
03:07:57 we’ve been at it for a while what you
03:08:01 have to do easy to share yeah what you
03:08:04 need to do is spend as much time as you
03:08:06 can with people who are experienced with
03:08:09 it who know how to look for it
03:08:12 and that is how you get your training
03:08:14 then once you start to see it it’s
03:08:17 natural yeah everywhere
03:08:23 a real tricky thing when you first get
03:08:25 started is planning the right teacher
03:08:28 yes thank you and another thing you know
03:08:32 uh
03:08:36 uh to start from 100 central government
03:08:39 is something new to you know to study
03:08:41 the book or the astronomy more deeper
03:08:44 you know it’s like when you say it is
03:08:46 cesra’s favorite book
03:08:48 yeah thank you it’s a great book start
03:08:51 when you’re learning a lot that’s
03:08:52 probably the best place to start
03:08:53 computerized thank you thank you so much
03:08:56 yeah you’re welcome well guys you have a
03:09:00 great night
03:09:01 it was good to see you take care all
03:09:04 right we did you with you
03:09:06 we’ll see you guys next lunar Sabbath
03:09:08 take care yep bye bye