Scripture Study 2024-07-13 Colossians 2

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Colossians 2 is misinterpreted a lot. Paul is hard to be understood. Once saved always saved is a lie. Paul uses symbolism. Different levels of meaning. Mormon means covenant. BoM is about the covenant from YHWH. Paul is a teacher of teacher. Face to Face is easier than writing. Modalism with the word “even”. Gospel and Torah stay the same. Christians are Pagans who don’t know it. Yeshua kept Torah, and so shall we or be liars. Faith is trust and diligence. Paul is warning the Colossians with Exodus 34. Modalism with the word dwelleth. Grace to Grace is a phrase which means sanctification. Yeshua is our perfect example including the process we are to go through. Torah correctly understand teaches us Yeshua character. We are to put off the natural man. List of Torah commandments. All things means Torah depends upon context. We are to be baptized as Yeshua is baptized. Yeshua took unschooled boys and men and taught them the truth. Law of Moses aka the ordinances against the mix multitude. First / Old is Law of Moses and Second / New is Torah. Law of Moses was ordained / established / started because of transgression. Law of Moses is a punishment. Punishment is done in addition to Torah. Different goats from the day of Atonement are different aspects of Yeshua’s Atonement. Punishment don’t have to be eternal. Moses was being the head of the household as described in Torah, just Abraham misunderstood. When you Understand Torah, you understand these histories. YHWH’s ways don’t change. Yeshua overcame the world and sin. Don’t accept the judgements from non-believers. Man goes with the world. Isaiah 66 states all these things will be kept in the millennium. This is one of the most used passage to promote lawlessness. Warning against gnostism, which Catholics adopted, and the Protestants kept. The world is judging the believers for keeping Torah. The world let go of Yeshua and His Torah. JST makes Paul more understandable. The Catholic church admits they baptized pagan practices. Catholic Pope head of all world religions. Just looks like wisdom. “Will worship” is worshiping how you want and not according to Torah. Come to YHWH with mouth but not with their hearts. Hope this will help people understand how people twist Paul to their own and others condemnation.

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00:00:01 consistent all right so today we decided
00:00:05 to talk
00:00:06 about colosan Colossians I’m saying it
00:00:10 wrong Colossians yeah two which
00:00:14 is
00:00:16 uh it’s misinterpreted a lot okay yeah
00:00:20 it’s the epistle it’s the epistle that
00:00:23 Paul wrote to the Paul wrote to the
00:00:26 Saints on the aisle of Colossus
00:00:32 yes so uh but just to do a little
00:00:35 Prelude which is actually a hub of pagan
00:00:39 activity yes it’s like one of
00:00:42 the one of the seven wonders of the
00:00:44 world cities there is or was because
00:00:47 it’s not around now anyways it it it is
00:00:50 home to one of the or it was one a home
00:00:53 to one of the Seven Wonders of the World
00:00:55 anyway
00:00:56 yes oh it is which which Wonder col
00:01:01 no I mean
00:01:03 that’s my bad my bad my bad that’s roads
00:01:06 my the it’s the Temple of it was the uh
00:01:09 it was the temple to we faced us oh that
00:01:12 one okay gota okay anyways so uh but to
00:01:17 start I think one thing about
00:01:20 Paul oh that let’s before we do the
00:01:23 Romans 7 let’s do another verse because
00:01:26 we are doing some Paul stuff yes uh um
00:01:30 first Peter second P or second Peter
00:01:33 yeah second Peter chapter 3 second Peter
00:01:34 3 yeah so I’m GNA get that
00:01:39 up uh this here we go okay so uh Matt
00:01:46 you want to read second Peter
00:01:48 3:16 absolutely as also in all his
00:01:52 Paul’s
00:01:53 Epistles speaking in them of these
00:01:57 things in which are some things hard to
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00:02:00 understood which they that are unlearned
00:02:04 and unstable rest as they do also the
00:02:08 other scriptures unto their own
00:02:11 destruction ye therefore beloved seeing
00:02:14 ye know these things before beware lest
00:02:18 ye also being led away with the error of
00:02:21 the wicked fall from your own
00:02:25 steadfastness which by the way speak
00:02:28 which this verse uh while also talking
00:02:30 about how Paul wrote some things that
00:02:32 are hard to be understood which we’re
00:02:33 going to go into why in uh Romans
00:02:36 chapter 7 but the uh in addition to that
00:02:41 this also tells us that once saved
00:02:43 always saved is um a lot of Tosh it’s a
00:02:47 lot of Tosh because otherwise why give
00:02:48 this warning that you could fall from
00:02:50 your steadfastness you could fall from
00:02:51 your uh you could basically that you
00:02:54 could basically forsake your
00:02:57 salvation right right correct cuz uh
00:03:01 there there there’s one verse that
00:03:03 completely destroys that among many
00:03:06 others right but anyway oh yeah oh yeah
00:03:09 all right so let’s go to Romans 7 so one
00:03:13 thing I will say about Paul Paul was a
00:03:17 teacher of teachers okay um and and one
00:03:22 thing about
00:03:23 that uh he as we’ll see here he was
00:03:27 speaking to people who unod him and
00:03:32 those who understood him understood
00:03:34 Torah okay see that just a minute um so
00:03:39 these letters when they were written
00:03:42 weren’t meant for the general populus
00:03:45 okay the general members not that they
00:03:49 were hiding
00:03:50 them it’s just as uh Peter just told us
00:03:55 he Paul has things that are hard to
00:03:58 understand so
00:04:00 and I think a lot of
00:04:03 that it’s not because what Peter taught
00:04:05 was different than Paul because they P
00:04:08 they taught the same stuff it was the
00:04:10 way that Paul did it and how he brought
00:04:13 out connections and symbolism when Paul
00:04:17 when Paul teaches in his
00:04:21 Epistles in his Epistles not everything
00:04:24 is meant to be read at pasat level which
00:04:27 is which is a surface level which is the
00:04:30 surface level reading correct he teaches
00:04:33 on he teaches using uh he teaches using
00:04:38 the whole um using the whole range of
00:04:42 parties yeah so okay so uh let’s get
00:04:45 into Padres real quick let me just get
00:04:48 my page for that because yes that I was
00:04:51 getting into that that he teaches a lot
00:04:54 through
00:04:55 symbolism um which if you understand
00:04:59 Torah you’re secure in the faith and
00:05:02 keeping the Commandments it’s
00:05:04 fine um but if you’re not you will
00:05:09 pervert those and that’s what what most
00:05:11 people do so be confus you’ll be
00:05:13 confused yes yeah so uh Zach you want to
00:05:18 read this little exer excert right here
00:05:22 I just highlighted
00:05:30 Just
00:05:31 moment can you increase the
00:05:34 size uh okay you might be thinking right
00:05:39 there you might be thinking I’m
00:05:42 taking that statement too
00:05:45 literally I would have to disagree is I
00:05:48 do agree there is much symbol symbolism
00:05:51 in it I have to say that it is to be
00:05:55 read literally also one thing we learn
00:05:59 when studying about
00:06:01 parties
00:06:03 and is that the deeper levels of meaning
00:06:06 or symb or
00:06:09 symbolic is the are symbolic or symbolic
00:06:13 deeper levels is symbolic is or right
00:06:16 right and
00:06:18 understanding do not do not contradict
00:06:20 or negate more surface levels or literal
00:06:24 of
00:06:26 understanding okay uh and then um um
00:06:31 Josh you want to read this one just to
00:06:32 help us sure a little
00:06:36 more um the verse I just quoted mosiah
00:06:40 18 verse1 illustrates that we are to
00:06:44 enter a covenant with God before we are
00:06:49 baptized I’ll end on this one as this is
00:06:53 not the main subject of this post but in
00:06:56 mosiah uh 18 18:8
00:07:00 it states here are the Waters of Mormon
00:07:02 this is a wonderful example of
00:07:05 pares four levels of meanings in the
00:07:10 scriptures the simplest level is very
00:07:13 obvious that was the name of the water
00:07:16 in a deeper level takes into account
00:07:18 that Mormon actually means Covenant and
00:07:21 everyone is about to be baptized with
00:07:23 water as a witness that they have
00:07:26 entered into a covenant with God
00:07:31 so uh on this one right here how Mormon
00:07:35 means Covenant um I know a lot of
00:07:40 people uh think that the book is named
00:07:45 after its primary a Bridger it’s not
00:07:50 it’s named after what it’s about the
00:07:53 Covenant from Yahweh in fact to further
00:07:56 support that the title page from the go
00:08:00 plates states it is to bring us in
00:08:02 remembrance of the Covenant that Yahweh
00:08:06 gave us I mean that’s and also in
00:08:07 Doctrine and Covenant section 84 verse
00:08:10 57 yeah so let me get that for you
00:08:15 yeah oh no yeah sorry so when so
00:08:20 basically when you’re when you’re
00:08:21 reading the title of the Book of Mormon
00:08:23 you’re reading what it’s actually saying
00:08:25 is book of the Covenant yes it’s the
00:08:28 book of the Covenant yeah yeah all right
00:08:31 so here’s what Ben’s looking for right
00:08:33 there
00:08:35 yeah and they shall remain under the
00:08:38 condemnation under this condemnation
00:08:40 until they repent and remember the New
00:08:43 Covenant even the Book of Mormon and the
00:08:48 former
00:08:49 Commandments which I have given them not
00:08:52 only to say but to do according to that
00:08:56 which I have written there’s only one
00:09:00 set of Commandments that God wrote with
00:09:03 his that that yah wrote with his fingers
00:09:06 on the with his own finger on tablets of
00:09:10 stone where was that at that is so that
00:09:13 is that is the law of the New Covenant
00:09:17 or renewed but anyways new renew right
00:09:21 well I’m just using the words that are
00:09:22 used in the scripture yeah yeah I
00:09:24 know so right okay okay I think with
00:09:28 that I think that’s a good example of
00:09:31 Padres and some C TRS we never do that
00:09:36 oh
00:09:37 boy
00:09:39 Sidra okay so but Paul was a teacher of
00:09:43 teachers and the te before you become a
00:09:47 teacher
00:09:49 um I think it’s mosiah 18 we can find it
00:09:52 if we’re worried about it is
00:09:56 that Elma brings out
00:10:00 how teachers should be keeping Torah
00:10:03 okay right he says keep the law but
00:10:05 that’s the same thing yeah basically it
00:10:08 states that Elma called nobody to be a
00:10:10 teacher who was not already keeping the
00:10:13 law correct and and that goes along with
00:10:16 this statement with uh Paul
00:10:19 here I so I’ll read this know you not
00:10:23 brethren for I speak to them that know
00:10:26 the law these letters were for for the
00:10:30 teachers yes MH
00:10:34 how that the law Torah have domain over
00:10:39 a man only as long as he liveth so he’s
00:10:44 I I this last part is about how Torah is
00:10:48 forever okay Torah is going to be lived
00:10:50 in heaven I have a recording about the
00:10:54 seven or sorry not seven three degrees
00:10:58 of glory and um um well how Torah is
00:11:02 there well here’s the interesting here’s
00:11:04 the interesting thing it says Torah has
00:11:07 Torah has
00:11:09 Comm let’s see the Torah hath dominion
00:11:13 over a man only as long as he liveth no
00:11:17 how that the Torah had to me but he’s
00:11:20 stating that as a he’s stating it as a
00:11:22 question right right right which is
00:11:25 going off of how um Torah is ET my point
00:11:31 is that if you’re living Tor you are
00:11:35 always alive even if your flesh should
00:11:38 die you’re always alive if you’re living
00:11:42 Tor okay yep yeah because you’re alive
00:11:45 in Yeshua right that’s right okay I see
00:11:48 where you’re going now okay that’s where
00:11:50 I’m going with that okay so I think with
00:11:53 that now we’ll go to actually what we
00:11:55 want to read which was col Colossians 2
00:11:59 dude so and we’re going to we’re going
00:12:02 to read this with an eye to
00:12:06 unifying uh unifying the gospels as
00:12:09 opposed to separating
00:12:12 them yeah uh do we want to do the whole
00:12:15 chapter or just the start it’s not that
00:12:19 it’s not that long a chapter okay all
00:12:21 right so we read the whole thing then
00:12:22 yep you want to start us off
00:12:26 B all righty for I would that ye know
00:12:31 what great conflict I have for you and
00:12:34 for them at
00:12:35 laia and for his many has have not seen
00:12:38 my face in the
00:12:40 flesh okay so he he’s in great conflict
00:12:44 of soul for he’s in great uh turmoil of
00:12:48 soul for the welfare of these
00:12:50 people okay for I would that ye know
00:12:53 what great conflict I have for you and
00:12:55 for them at laa and for as many as have
00:12:58 not seen my face in the flesh um it
00:13:02 appears that he’s a much better orator
00:13:04 than writer as as he as he seems to as
00:13:08 he seems to see it uh Nephi actually
00:13:11 talks about this same kind of thing I’m
00:13:13 much more Mighty in re in speaking than
00:13:15 I am in writing Moroni says the same
00:13:18 thing he made our people Mighty in
00:13:20 speaking but not Mighty in writing um
00:13:24 and so you have that similar that
00:13:26 similar concern because they he hasn’t
00:13:28 been able to talk to them face to
00:13:32 face it is I will say it’s easier face
00:13:35 to face than or Zoom to zoom right
00:13:41 whatever the people um so I can
00:13:44 definitely
00:13:47 understand yeah so Josh can you read
00:13:49 verse two
00:13:52 sure that their hearts might be
00:13:55 comforted being knit together in love
00:13:58 and unto all all Riches of the full
00:14:00 Assurance of understanding okay through
00:14:03 the acknowledgment of the mystery of
00:14:07 Christ who is of god even the
00:14:12 father okay so this so here we have a
00:14:15 really interesting turn of phrase here
00:14:18 uh F first right at the very end Christ
00:14:20 who is of god even the father so Christ
00:14:24 is of the father is what he’s saying
00:14:28 this is a acknowledgement of modalism
00:14:31 yes and I so the fact and even more
00:14:34 support of that you you
00:14:37 look how here the
00:14:41 and was removed by Joseph Smith in both
00:14:45 cases that could point the godhead
00:14:49 right and they were restored with even
00:14:53 and stating that it is the same person
00:14:57 and this is just another title well and
00:15:00 this actually goes back to the very one
00:15:03 of the very earliest teachings we get
00:15:05 about God in Deuteronomy it’s in the
00:15:09 shama here o
00:15:12 Israel yah your
00:15:14 Elohim is one Lord is one
00:15:20 Adon he is
00:15:23 one that is the very fir one of the very
00:15:26 first teachings we receive about God in
00:15:28 the world
00:15:33 yeah and I I do I’ll just I know I
00:15:35 already said this but this being in the
00:15:38 jst
00:15:40 really shows what Joseph Smith taught um
00:15:44 which is also in uh lectures on faith
00:15:47 five which I can put a link to uh and
00:15:50 it’s all over the Book of Mormon but
00:15:52 anyways okay so so literally it’s all
00:15:56 over the Book of Mormon so know what to
00:15:59 see and look for it’s everywhere you
00:16:01 can’t miss it all right so in order to
00:16:03 touch this back to the next verse that
00:16:05 their hearts might be comforted being
00:16:08 knit together in love onto all riches
00:16:10 the full Assurance of understanding he
00:16:12 wants all he wants the Saints in
00:16:14 Colossus to understand the same things
00:16:17 as the Saints in Ephesus as the Saints
00:16:19 in galatia as the Saints in uh Corinth
00:16:23 uh etc etc etc he wants are are you
00:16:27 saying the gospel and the Torah is the
00:16:30 same
00:16:31 everywhere yes it doesn’t change based
00:16:34 on location does it change ACC change
00:16:37 based on your
00:16:38 feelings it it doesn’t CH it it also
00:16:41 doesn’t even change based on on
00:16:43 significant events in the in the
00:16:46 unveiling of the Plan of
00:16:51 Salvation okay well actually I agree
00:16:53 with you I’m playing Devil’s Advocate
00:16:54 but you know that it actually doesn’t
00:16:57 even change based on that
00:17:00 so the the point so the the point that
00:17:03 we have here here we have Paul wanting
00:17:05 to re wanting to unite the Saints in the
00:17:07 same understanding right right right
00:17:10 right okay verse three
00:17:17 Zion
00:17:20 yeah
00:17:24 um are HID all the treasures of wisdom
00:17:27 and knowledge yes so who where are all
00:17:30 the treasures of wisdom and knowledge to
00:17:31 be
00:17:32 found yes the promised M elim Yeshua
00:17:38 yeah all one and the same I think we
00:17:40 learned that from the previous verse you
00:17:43 can simplify it by saying in God right
00:17:45 yeah but uh in the Hebrew that would be
00:17:48 Elohim in title Y in name
00:17:54 right so that is so that is where all
00:17:58 the Treasures of wisdom and knowledge
00:18:01 are uh Zack verse
00:18:09 four and this and this I say l man
00:18:13 should begal you with enticing
00:18:18 words yeah so this I said so he’s
00:18:22 worried about people he’s worried about
00:18:24 the people around them beguiling them
00:18:26 away from the way into
00:18:29 into Pagan um into Pagan practice with
00:18:32 enticing
00:18:34 words
00:18:37 oh you can you can make you can put your
00:18:40 God into this into this activity and
00:18:42 it’s it’ll be all
00:18:44 good well um at the risk of offending
00:18:51 people Christians are pagans who don’t
00:18:54 know it all the practices they they they
00:18:58 put
00:18:59 have their roots in
00:19:02 paganism and and Pagan ceremony and
00:19:05 Pagan practice
00:19:07 yeah all right verse
00:19:10 five Stephen yes for though I be absent
00:19:15 in the flesh yet I am with you in the
00:19:19 spirit love you girly joying and
00:19:22 beholding your order and the
00:19:24 steadfastness of your faith in the
00:19:27 Messiah
00:19:30 for though I be absent in the flesh so
00:19:32 he’s not there yet I am with you in the
00:19:34 spirit joying and beholding your order
00:19:37 he he he joys in their faithfulness and
00:19:40 their maintaining of the
00:19:42 way and okay so I’ll read verse six as
00:19:47 ye have therefore rejoiced as you have
00:19:50 therefore received Christ yes as you
00:19:52 have therefore received the Messiah
00:19:54 Yeshua
00:19:55 hamashiach uh yaha as so walk ye in him
00:20:01 so as you have received him you walk in
00:20:03 him oh wait a minute how can you walk in
00:20:06 Yeshua
00:20:08 hamashia you walk in his mind and will
00:20:13 you walk do you want another verse for
00:20:15 that or you want to just go ahead go
00:20:17 ahead and bring another one in to
00:20:19 support that okay so um we’re going to
00:20:23 go to my notes so in other words you
00:20:25 walk in his mind and will which is
00:20:28 his Spirit the spirit which is
00:20:31 Torah
00:20:34 y because Torah ostensively in my
00:20:38 understanding is his mind and
00:20:41 will there we go so here and we all like
00:20:45 this
00:20:48 one uh and I can read it uh first John 2
00:20:52 3-6 and hereby I’m sorry go ahead no go
00:20:57 ahead and hereby we do know that we know
00:21:01 Yeshua if we keep his
00:21:06 Commandments he that saith I know Yeshua
00:21:10 and keepeth not his Commandments is a
00:21:14 liar and the truth is not in
00:21:18 him but whosoever keepeth yeshua’s word
00:21:23 in him verily is the love of Elohim
00:21:27 perfected
00:21:29 hereby know we that we are in
00:21:33 Yeshua he that saith he abideth in
00:21:36 Yeshua ought himself to so to walk even
00:21:42 as Yeshua walked which was keeping
00:21:45 Torah so that’s how you walk in Yeshua
00:21:48 that’s how you walk in Yeshua is by U is
00:21:51 by keeping Torah um which is the
00:21:56 revelation of his mind and will
00:21:58 therefore it is his Spirit
00:22:04 uhhuh okay the spirit will show you all
00:22:07 things what you should do right so let’s
00:22:11 go back to Colossians
00:22:15 2
00:22:16 okay
00:22:19 okay rud okay so let’s go Josh read
00:22:22 verse seven
00:22:24 sure rooted and built up in him and
00:22:29 established in the faith as ye have been
00:22:32 taught abounding therein with
00:22:35 Thanksgiving okay so here he’s
00:22:37 describing their faithfulness he’s
00:22:39 established in the faith in Romans he
00:22:43 says that Faith establishes the
00:22:47 Torah Faith establishes what the Torah
00:22:51 oh yeah okay okay okay okay yeah which
00:22:53 um keeping in mind that faith is trust
00:22:57 and dilig
00:22:59 that does point to keeping Torah which
00:23:03 is so established in the faith is
00:23:05 keeping Torah
00:23:09 yeah right as you have been taught
00:23:12 abounding therein with Thanksgiving okay
00:23:15 Zack verse
00:23:18 eight beware of us to new man spoil
00:23:21 spoil you through philosophy and vain
00:23:25 deceit after the tradition of men after
00:23:29 after the rudiments of the world and not
00:23:32 after Christ I’m okay so so now he
00:23:35 starts into his
00:23:37 warning beware lest any man spoil you
00:23:40 through philosophy and vain
00:23:42 deceit this here he’s talking about
00:23:45 Greek philosophy that which surrounded
00:23:48 them the Pagan Greek
00:23:52 philosophy lest any man th spoil you
00:23:54 through philosophy and vain deceit he he
00:23:58 puts those those two
00:23:59 together uh after the tradition of men
00:24:03 after the rudiments of the world so here
00:24:05 he is he’s talking about beware lest
00:24:08 people bring you into worldly practices
00:24:12 uh or um the worship of their gods right
00:24:18 that reminds me of a point in the law in
00:24:22 Exodus chapter
00:24:25 34 okay so let me go there exod
00:24:28 [Music]
00:24:31 good
00:24:32 night 34 which
00:24:35 verse it’s going to be at the letter or
00:24:39 uh I don’t so I’m gonna pause for just a
00:24:42 minute
00:24:46 yeah take heed to thyself lest thou make
00:24:49 a covenant with the inhabitants of the
00:24:51 land wither thou goest lest it be for a
00:24:54 snare in the midst of thee okay so just
00:24:57 real quick this is Exodus 34 Exodus 34
00:25:00 vers we started at verse 12 and we’re
00:25:04 going to go through verse
00:25:07 17 but ye sh uh take ye to thyself lest
00:25:10 thou make a covenant with the
00:25:12 inhabitants of the land with thou goest
00:25:14 lest it be for a snare in the midst of
00:25:17 thee but ye shall destroy their altars
00:25:19 break their images and cut down their
00:25:22 Groves or Thou shalt worship no other
00:25:27 Elohim for for yah whose name is for
00:25:31 whose name is yah is a jealous
00:25:35 God lest thou make a covenant with the
00:25:38 inhabitants of the land and they go and
00:25:40 they go a horing after their gods and do
00:25:43 sacrifice unto their gods and one called
00:25:47 thee and thou eat of his sacrifice and
00:25:50 thou take of their daughters unto thy
00:25:52 sons and their daughters go a horing
00:25:54 after their gods and make thy Sons go a
00:25:56 horing after their gods Thou shalt make
00:26:00 thee know molten
00:26:04 Gods this is the teaching that Paul is
00:26:07 talking
00:26:09 about is warning against in Colossians
00:26:13 chapter
00:26:15 2 yeah and there’s and that’s and that
00:26:19 is um that leaves no ambiguity yeah
00:26:24 that’s very
00:26:25 straightforward uh so that in verse in
00:26:29 verse
00:26:30 eight
00:26:32 um that that’s what in verse eight
00:26:35 that’s what he’s that’s what he’s hiding
00:26:37 back to so verse uh verse nine Stephen
00:26:43 yes for in him dwelleth or in Yeshua
00:26:48 dwelleth the fullness of the godhead
00:26:51 bodily so you don’t mind me saying this
00:26:54 one this is just saying that the spirit
00:26:58 that the physical I don’t know physical
00:27:01 but the the soul spirit of God
00:27:06 dwelleth in Yeshua which is
00:27:09 another teaching for modalism yep right
00:27:14 and I yeah and I that’s what I
00:27:16 understood just now from from reading
00:27:18 that verse so yeah that was
00:27:22 um that was the first time I ever saw
00:27:24 that though so I’m making progress yay
00:27:27 anyway
00:27:28 we all here were taught something
00:27:31 different yeah that’s true that is true
00:27:35 it t it takes time and here we have and
00:27:38 and here we have in verse 10 the
00:27:40 teaching at the that’s at the back end
00:27:42 of uh lecture on faith 52 and ye are
00:27:46 complete in him which is the head of all
00:27:50 principality and
00:27:53 power and let’s go to let’s go to
00:27:55 lectures on faith 52 yeah let me do
00:28:01 that and I and I’m really talking about
00:28:03 that very last part where it’s talking
00:28:05 about the Holy Spirit particularly the
00:28:07 mind and will the same mind and will
00:28:09 that unites all that spirit that is
00:28:11 poured
00:28:25 out
00:28:26 okay okay
00:28:28 you see
00:28:30 it bring it up just a little bit more
00:28:32 bring it up just a little bit more okay
00:28:36 and I’ll go
00:28:38 from let’s
00:28:40 see all
00:28:42 right starting I’ll start with being
00:28:45 right here at the very bottom
00:28:48 being being filled with the fullness of
00:28:51 the mind of the father or in other words
00:28:53 the spirit of the Father which spirit is
00:28:56 shed forth upon all who believe believe
00:28:58 on his name and keep his Commandments
00:29:00 and all those who keep his Commandments
00:29:02 shall Grow Up From Grace to Grace and
00:29:05 become Heirs of the Heavenly Kingdom and
00:29:07 Joint HS with Yeshua hamashia possessing
00:29:11 the same mind being transformed into the
00:29:14 same image or likeness even the express
00:29:17 image of him who fills all in all being
00:29:20 filled with the fullness of his glory
00:29:22 and become one in him even as the father
00:29:25 Son and Holy Spirit are one
00:29:30 so this is so this that’s what the
00:29:32 that’s what that verse is referring to
00:29:34 this become this Oneness with them that
00:29:36 comes as we walk in Yeshua or walk in
00:29:41 the spirit so Grace by Grace is a term
00:29:46 that means
00:29:48 sanctification
00:29:51 yes Sanctified but it means first
00:29:54 justification then
00:29:56 sanctification right right okay I was
00:29:59 gonna say because Grace to
00:30:02 Grace right it Grew From Grace to Grace
00:30:06 right and that is saying sanctification
00:30:10 yeah right right right I get it
00:30:15 okay okay and this is the same process
00:30:18 that all people who have come to
00:30:21 earth I will say that again all people
00:30:24 who have come to Earth even when God
00:30:27 condescended
00:30:29 Yeshua had to grow from Grace to
00:30:34 Grace and uh it brings that out in the
00:30:37 New Testament when you know what to look
00:30:39 for but anyway yeah it also is in the
00:30:41 Doctrine and Covenants quite clearly in
00:30:43 section 93 yeah he went through the same
00:30:47 process that he wants us to go through
00:30:51 right well he had to he had to exemplify
00:30:53 he had to exemplify the process correct
00:30:56 exactly is our perfect
00:30:59 example right would have defeated the
00:31:02 whole purpose if he
00:31:04 didn’t yeah exactly um and and so he’s
00:31:09 our he’s our perfect Exemplar he came up
00:31:11 with the plan and he’s our perfect
00:31:12 Exemplar and following it
00:31:15 um and and there thereby proving that it
00:31:20 is possible in this life and he paid the
00:31:23 blood penalty for us yes he did yeah
00:31:30 he has
00:31:31 incurred all of the
00:31:36 risk yes and actually on this point
00:31:40 since we’re dwelling on a little bit it
00:31:43 is the head of the household that’s
00:31:45 responsible for what those inside of a
00:31:47 do it
00:31:50 that’s and that is showing us what
00:31:53 Yeshua is for ush
00:31:57 [Music]
00:31:58 oh just the the
00:32:02 Torah when correctly
00:32:04 understood tells us about yeshua’s
00:32:09 [Music]
00:32:10 character so let us go so let us go back
00:32:13 to Colossians chapter
00:32:20 2 you know it’s really cool it’s really
00:32:24 cool to realize how the gospel in in
00:32:28 every um I know we don’t like this word
00:32:31 because it’s really not indicative of
00:32:33 what’s going on but I’ll use it because
00:32:36 it’ll be something that a lot of people
00:32:38 who may watch this understand from
00:32:41 dispens in every dispensation the gospel
00:32:46 harmonizes it’s not to be pitted against
00:32:49 it’s not to be pitted against each
00:32:51 itself right it all
00:32:54 harmonizes say hi to hi guys
00:32:58 hi sorry it’s bad timing I’m with some
00:33:05 friends love you
00:33:08 guys thank you for calling even though
00:33:11 it didn’t quite work
00:33:20 out okay so um let’s go let’s go ahead
00:33:26 and move on here
00:33:28 um which is the you are complete in him
00:33:32 which is the head of all principality
00:33:34 and power uh verse 11 Josh
00:33:38 sure in whom also ye are
00:33:41 circumcised with the circumcision made
00:33:44 without hands in putting off the body of
00:33:48 the sins of the flesh by the
00:33:51 circumcision of Christ okay you’re
00:33:54 putting off the world you’re putting off
00:33:56 the circumcision you’re putting off the
00:33:58 sins of the flesh by becoming a part of
00:34:01 the circumcision of Christ oh wait where
00:34:03 else do we find this do we find this
00:34:05 potentially in mosiah chapter
00:34:08 4 uh let’s go
00:34:12 look I would say potentially
00:34:16 yeah a high
00:34:23 potentiality or maybe chapter three but
00:34:26 okay so let’s pause pause to find the
00:34:28 verse and then we’ll
00:34:33 resume okay so the so we found the
00:34:37 scripture that we’re looking for it’s in
00:34:38 mosiah chap 3: 19 uh this is a
00:34:42 corresponding teaching to what Paul is
00:34:44 giving the Colossians in Chapter 2 for
00:34:47 the natural man is an enemy to God and
00:34:50 has been from the fall of Adam and will
00:34:53 be forever and ever unless he yields to
00:34:55 the enticings of the Holy Spirit and
00:34:57 putteth off the natural man I he stops
00:35:00 doing whatever it is he wants to do and
00:35:03 becometh a saint through the atonement
00:35:04 of Christ of the Lord and becometh as a
00:35:08 child submissive Meek humble patient
00:35:13 full of love oh wait a minute this
00:35:14 sounds like the description of Charity
00:35:17 oh wait wait this sounds like
00:35:18 description of uh Torah
00:35:21 Commandments right will oh and willing
00:35:25 to submit to all things
00:35:29 to all things
00:35:32 which all things is a phrase that means
00:35:36 Torah and a lot not all the time but
00:35:39 depending on context and it definitely
00:35:41 does here well in this context I do
00:35:43 believe it’s referring to Torah but
00:35:44 anyway because that is the only thing
00:35:46 which yela seeth fit to inflict upon us
00:35:49 all the most of the other bad things
00:35:51 that happen in our lives are a result of
00:35:53 just being
00:35:55 mortal yeah yeah
00:35:58 or
00:35:59 or Satan has some power over us because
00:36:04 the sins that we had
00:36:06 noted and not repented of right so the
00:36:10 point is we are not willing to submit
00:36:13 and this is why we have those things
00:36:16 happen to us because we want to follow
00:36:19 our own program right and we don’t want
00:36:21 to heed Torah and we don’t want to
00:36:25 submit ourselves to the Lord right and
00:36:28 to relate this back to Colossians again
00:36:31 because we’re about to go into the
00:36:32 things which the pagans are judging them
00:36:35 for
00:36:37 um which are things which are against
00:36:42 the Pagan religions endorsed by that
00:36:44 endorse the natural man right right and
00:36:48 so here we so that so that’s what we’re
00:36:51 going into here um uh verse 12 Zack
00:37:00 Fu Zach yes minute oh
00:37:04 sorry I
00:37:07 am buried with him in baptism
00:37:11 wherein yeah wherein also see ye are
00:37:14 risen with him through the faith of the
00:37:17 operation of Elohim who hath raised him
00:37:20 from the
00:37:21 dead
00:37:23 Okay so this so again this is they’re
00:37:28 United to him through baptism following
00:37:31 him even into the Waters of baptism
00:37:33 entering into Covenant with him before
00:37:35 they’re baptized as we can read about
00:37:37 mosiah
00:37:38 18:10 but right I would those say I
00:37:41 would think second Epi is it 32 or
00:37:46 31 second Nei 31 31 yeah second Nei 31
00:37:50 is a better example of that I think yes
00:37:53 yes absolutely um wherein also you are
00:37:57 risen from through the faith of the
00:37:59 operation of God which hath risen him
00:38:02 with which hath raised him from the dead
00:38:04 so um is there anything that is there
00:38:07 anything you want to say about that
00:38:09 verse
00:38:10 Stephen oh sorry I uh say that one more
00:38:13 time was there uh was there anything you
00:38:15 wanted to say about that verse outs I I
00:38:18 got a slight Insight just now who ha
00:38:21 raised him from the dead right when we
00:38:24 when we Covenant
00:38:27 right when we make that Covenant and
00:38:29 we’re keeping Torah we are raised from
00:38:32 the dead because we are
00:38:34 alive BN again we’re born again so along
00:38:38 with what Josh just
00:38:40 stated um there’s this
00:38:43 phrase what is it Genesis one or two I
00:38:46 forget anyways but a living Soul okay
00:38:52 and there’s confusion with that but that
00:38:54 living soul is what Josh just brought
00:38:57 brought out
00:38:59 it’s uh when we keep
00:39:01 Torah in Covenant with Yeshua we are a
00:39:06 living
00:39:08 Soul which also goes along with what I
00:39:11 think it was been earlier about if you
00:39:13 keep Torah we don’t die right right
00:39:16 right and so and so we go and so and so
00:39:19 we go from that in the verse 13 real
00:39:22 quick and that’s in the second death
00:39:25 okay because there’s two deaths right
00:39:28 yes so you have to
00:39:30 remember
00:39:32 anyways um in reading scriptures it’s
00:39:38 helpful to know other key passages
00:39:42 beforehand to help
00:39:45 understand what they’re saying right
00:39:48 right um now you’ll see in yeshua’s
00:39:52 Mortal Ministry that there were times
00:39:56 when the Apostles didn’t understand
00:39:59 Yeshua
00:40:01 um yeah but I was most of my life I
00:40:07 didn’t understand the scriptures which
00:40:09 are the words of Yahweh right right I’m
00:40:13 not trying to diss on them I’m just
00:40:15 trying to give some understanding and
00:40:20 connection
00:40:23 that in fact no I knew who they would
00:40:26 become
00:40:27 once he taught them yes but they
00:40:32 weren’t studied in the
00:40:35 Torah um themselves till Yeshua called
00:40:40 them and then he helped them understand
00:40:41 and whatnot okay well just like just
00:40:44 like can I I might I might I say
00:40:48 something
00:40:49 here just like all of
00:40:53 us we may have been we may have studied
00:40:56 the scriptures
00:41:00 but we understood them in a way that
00:41:02 pitted them against each other yeah yeah
00:41:06 um now I will
00:41:09 say for those who believe in the
00:41:11 restoration it was a unschooled
00:41:16 boy that made it possible for us to get
00:41:21 insights into God’s true
00:41:24 ways prepared the way for who will be
00:41:28 coming that will restore
00:41:30 Torah um
00:41:33 and this is just like the TW apostles
00:41:36 who were not schooled also Yeshua took
00:41:41 unschooled boys and men in the ways of
00:41:45 the world and their false
00:41:47 Traditions to then teach
00:41:50 them the right way y just like we went
00:41:54 over recently the parable of the workers
00:41:58 yes they were idle for a period of time
00:42:02 yeah some were idle for an extremely
00:42:04 long period of time well they they did
00:42:08 not know where to look right right so
00:42:12 Zach since 13 actually Vish finishes the
00:42:16 teaching of 12 do you mind reading 13
00:42:18 too
00:42:21 okay and you being dead in your sins and
00:42:25 the
00:42:26 uncircumcision of your flesh at he
00:42:29 quickened together with
00:42:32 them having forgiven you all the
00:42:36 trespasses blotting out the handwriting
00:42:39 of ordinances that was against us which
00:42:42 was contrary to us and took it out of
00:42:46 the way nailing it to his
00:42:52 cross Israel broke their Covenant with
00:42:56 him
00:42:58 and in his love and
00:43:02 mercy he took the
00:43:14 punishment he forgave
00:43:18 them another thing that we could oh
00:43:21 sorry are you done Ben he became sin for
00:43:24 them to take away the handwriting wrting
00:43:27 of ordinances that was against them this
00:43:29 is where we get into this idea again
00:43:32 that the law of Moses and the the law of
00:43:36 Moses was the handwriting of ordinances
00:43:38 that was against them if we could go
00:43:39 back to um I believe it’s Exodus 34 here
00:43:44 uh in where he talks about so I’ll do it
00:43:47 on my page just because there’s that’s
00:43:50 there and there’s others that you may
00:43:51 want to get at but
00:43:53 yeah uh because
00:43:57 this is referring to that the this
00:44:00 prophecy that was given to Moses as he’s
00:44:02 being given the law of the carnal
00:44:14 commandment
00:44:16 yeah I believe this is the one you want
00:44:18 right yes that’s the
00:44:22 one and yah said unto Moses you the two
00:44:26 other tables of stone
00:44:27 like unto the first and I will write
00:44:30 upon them also the words of the law
00:44:33 according as they were written at the
00:44:35 first on the tables which thou breakast
00:44:37 but it shall not be according to the
00:44:39 first for I will take away the
00:44:41 priesthood out of their midst therefore
00:44:44 my holy order and the ordinances thereof
00:44:47 shall not go before them for my for my
00:44:51 and this is as a whole though for there
00:44:53 were people in Israel who did receive
00:44:56 the who were
00:44:58 Sanctified yes and there’s quotes from
00:45:01 Joseph Smith that goes along those lines
00:45:03 but anyways yeah for my presence shall
00:45:05 not go up in their midst lest I destroy
00:45:08 them but I will give unto them the law
00:45:11 as at the first but it shall be
00:45:15 after the law of a carnal
00:45:18 commandment and when he’s saying after
00:45:20 he’s talking about in referring to he’s
00:45:21 referring to time the law as at first
00:45:25 was restored through
00:45:29 Yeshua yeah and so just on those lines
00:45:33 as Ben’s kind of alluding to I’ll be
00:45:35 more a little direct there’s multiple
00:45:38 verses that talks about the first or and
00:45:42 second or old and new that goes along it
00:45:46 and this after goes along with how that
00:45:51 order how La Moses is the first or the
00:45:54 old and Torah is the second or the new
00:45:58 and in this page I talk about that even
00:46:02 more so I don’t know how much Ben wants
00:46:04 to get into but I just want but I think
00:46:06 I I just want to share this so that they
00:46:09 you know and and encourage people to
00:46:12 read the rest of this page um the law of
00:46:16 carnal commandment with for I have sworn
00:46:18 in my wrath that they shall not enter
00:46:21 into my presence into my rest in the
00:46:24 days of their pilgrimage therefore do as
00:46:26 I I have commanded thee and be ready in
00:46:29 the morning and come up in the morning
00:46:31 onto Mount Si and present thyself there
00:46:35 to me on the in the top of the
00:46:40 mount so the point so so the point is
00:46:45 this is a clear differentiation and
00:46:48 delineation between the law of cardinal
00:46:50 Commandments the law of Moses and Torah
00:46:54 which is the second commandments yeah
00:46:56 and which are the same as the
00:46:58 Commandments that were at the first
00:47:01 before the or the ordinances that were
00:47:03 against us were
00:47:08 added so in one of the even within Torah
00:47:13 without the J oh yeah there it is
00:47:15 numbers 28 1-8 specifically verse 5 if
00:47:20 you know what ordained mean it means
00:47:23 established started in Mount Si as
00:47:26 talking about the dayby day AKA law of
00:47:30 Moses started Mount Si it’s right there
00:47:35 one knows how to read it now I will be
00:47:39 honest I came to understand how to read
00:47:42 that after Yahweh taught me this right
00:47:47 and so and so the thing is is that um
00:47:52 now this does not constitute a change in
00:47:55 yah this constitutes a judgment
00:48:00 against the people of the Covenant yeah
00:48:05 uh that’s in here I’m trying to remember
00:48:08 is that the Galatians one
00:48:13 yeah I think it’s that
00:48:16 one added because of
00:48:18 transgression
00:48:23 yeah yep there it is black and white
00:48:30 right all right so here I actually I’m
00:48:33 going to read this whole section here
00:48:35 sorry guys I was just kidding about only
00:48:37 reading the one
00:48:40 section jst Galatians 3:12 through 19
00:48:43 and the law of Moses the law is not a
00:48:46 faith I the law of carnal Commandments
00:48:50 is not a faith but the man that doeth
00:48:52 them shall live in
00:48:54 them Christ the Messiah hath redeemed us
00:48:57 from the curse of the law so he the
00:49:02 being made a curse for us for it is
00:49:04 written cursed is everyone that hangeth
00:49:05 on a tree that The Blessing of Abraham
00:49:08 might come to the Gentiles through
00:49:09 Yeshua hamashiach that they might
00:49:12 receive the
00:49:13 promise of the spirit through faith
00:49:17 Brethren I speak after the manner of men
00:49:19 though it be but though though it be but
00:49:21 a man’s Covenant yet when it be
00:49:23 confirmed no man disen knowth it or adth
00:49:25 theret so if a
00:49:27 man here he is saying if a man makes a
00:49:29 covenant nobody changes it nobody can
00:49:31 disel it now to Abraham and his seed
00:49:34 were the promises made how much more so
00:49:36 is this is it when God makes a covenant
00:49:39 he saith not and an to seeds as of many
00:49:42 but as of one and to thy seed which is
00:49:45 the
00:49:46 Messiah this I say and this I say that
00:49:50 the Covenant which was confirmed before
00:49:52 Elohim in the
00:49:55 Messiah the law
00:49:57 which was 430 years after because cannot
00:50:03 disen that it should be made that it
00:50:06 should make the promise of none effect
00:50:09 so here we have this Torah it can’t be
00:50:13 disannulled by the law of Moses the
00:50:15 promise of faith cannot be disan knowed
00:50:18 by the law of Moses for if the
00:50:19 inheritance is of the law of carnal
00:50:22 Commandments or law of Moses then it is
00:50:25 no more of promise but God gave it to
00:50:28 Abraham by promise God gave it Torah to
00:50:32 Abraham by promise wherefore then the
00:50:36 law the therefore the law of carnal
00:50:38 Commandments or of Moses was added
00:50:41 because of transgressions till the seed
00:50:45 until the seed should come the seed and
00:50:48 this seed points to Yeshua this is a
00:50:51 seed that’s talked about with Eve in the
00:50:54 garden anyways which points to Yeshua to
00:50:58 whom the promise was made in the law
00:51:02 given to
00:51:04 Moses who was ordained by the head of by
00:51:09 the hand of angels to be a mediator of
00:51:13 this first Covenant of the this is one
00:51:16 of those instances where it talks about
00:51:17 the first the law of carnal Commandments
00:51:19 which was put in place begun at Sinai
00:51:22 according to numbers
00:51:23 five and um it
00:51:27 and here he’s actually teaching it as it
00:51:30 relates to
00:51:32 Torah
00:51:35 right it cannot disel
00:51:39 Torah
00:51:41 no it cannot disol the promise through
00:51:44 faith right and um and it can’t disol
00:51:48 because it was a punishment so
00:51:52 right in fact without Torah it couldn’t
00:51:55 have been laid down right because it was
00:51:57 given because they were breaking Torah
00:52:02 right so you don’t want to do this well
00:52:04 you’re gonna do this so so I I think and
00:52:08 I will I will change that statement just
00:52:10 slightly you will do the punishment in
00:52:13 addition to Torah yes yeah yeah yeah
00:52:17 yeah yeah true true that true so yeah
00:52:21 because the punishment is the punishment
00:52:24 is actually a constant reminder of the
00:52:26 blood guilt of the Covenant Keeper of
00:52:29 the uh of the human side of the Covenant
00:52:31 keeping
00:52:32 thing
00:52:34 right it’s a constant reminder of their
00:52:37 blood guilt correct yes which was not
00:52:41 which was not expiated until Christ took
00:52:44 it upon
00:52:47 himself y as as both goats in the day of
00:52:54 atonement yep
00:52:58 there are different aspects the
00:53:00 different goats are different aspects
00:53:02 yeah he became
00:53:06 sin that those that the handwriting of
00:53:09 ordinances might be done might be nailed
00:53:11 to the tree with
00:53:15 it which is why we do not which is why
00:53:19 there will never again be the extra
00:53:22 daily and sabatical offerings required
00:53:25 of man because that price has been
00:53:32 paid the sin offerings peace offerings
00:53:34 and other things are prophesied in
00:53:36 Ezekiel yeah so the way that I would put
00:53:38 it is punishments don’t have to be
00:53:40 Eternal and I’m glad for that because
00:53:42 otherwise I’d be going to
00:53:44 hell right so let’s so so I think that’s
00:53:48 enough on the uh handwriting I think
00:53:51 that’s enough for now on the handwriting
00:53:52 of ordinances okay so uh I’m going to
00:53:55 Sidetrack us just a little bit since
00:53:57 we’re talking about the general time
00:54:00 okay so just before the law of Moses was
00:54:04 given uh Moses was on Mount Si and
00:54:07 Yahweh
00:54:09 said uh I don’t remember the exact words
00:54:11 but he said the mixed multitude were
00:54:14 sinning right your followers your people
00:54:17 are sinning your people not my
00:54:21 people I’m
00:54:24 not anyways a reason he is saying that
00:54:28 Moses is the
00:54:30 leader they are they it’s not that Yesa
00:54:33 was just pawning off the the sinful
00:54:36 child or the the child that’s being bad
00:54:39 to the other parent okay that’s not
00:54:41 what’s going on it’s funny to talk about
00:54:44 it that way but that is not what’s going
00:54:47 on Moses is the leader he is the head
00:54:51 just as the reason why Yeshua can pay
00:54:55 for our sins is because he is the head
00:54:59 the
00:54:59 leader he is the Father which goes along
00:55:03 with again what’s going on with this
00:55:06 interaction how Moses is you know saying
00:55:09 I’ll take their sins and all that jazz
00:55:12 it’s because Moses is being the head of
00:55:15 the household that is described in
00:55:19 Torah y taught him what it means to be
00:55:23 the head of the household and Moses
00:55:25 accepted it and he did it now
00:55:29 he we’d have to go look at the actual
00:55:32 words because I don’t remember parts of
00:55:35 it in my head now just going off a vague
00:55:39 memory I think Moses took it too far
00:55:42 just like Abraham took something too far
00:55:45 or slightly misunderstood because then
00:55:48 afterwards after Moses said I’ll take it
00:55:52 on he’s like no only those who sin I
00:55:57 will hold them independently accountable
00:56:01 so Moses had the correct
00:56:05 idea just not completely if that makes
00:56:09 well and basically what God told him is
00:56:11 I have no intention of blotting your
00:56:12 name out of my book right right yes but
00:56:16 he was doing that same principle there
00:56:19 yeah just maybe not completely correctly
00:56:22 he was attempting to yeah he was well
00:56:25 and that and I I think that’s why that
00:56:29 distinction was made there is
00:56:32 because you know he took into account
00:56:35 that Moses was
00:56:36 trying
00:56:38 yes just like just like how Abraham uh
00:56:42 he took into account that Abraham was
00:56:44 trying and he sent him a
00:56:49 ram goes back to the day of atonement
00:56:53 again well that one was Passover but it
00:56:56 yeah Passover and atonement both point
00:56:58 to the atonement right right he sent him
00:57:01 a ram in the
00:57:04 thicket he sent him a ram in the thicket
00:57:08 y uh whereby he could offer the
00:57:13 appropriate Redemption offering for his
00:57:17 son yeah yeah right because he was the
00:57:19 first born uh he broke the womb but
00:57:22 anyways uh yes completely yes so now
00:57:26 with that with my Sidetrack done should
00:57:28 we go back yeah let’s go back to
00:57:32 colians I hope I I I think it’s really
00:57:36 cool to see how to see how the gospel
00:57:39 just gels together and Torah right this
00:57:43 is where this is an example how when you
00:57:46 understand Torah you understand these
00:57:49 histories right and and the thing and
00:57:52 you realize that the that the gospel and
00:57:55 the law have been the same throughout
00:57:59 time that that the standard hasn’t
00:58:02 changed and that and that is actually a
00:58:05 really cool thing because that means we
00:58:08 can know what to what is expected of
00:58:10 us and we don’t have to and we and we
00:58:14 work out our Salvation in fear and
00:58:16 trembling
00:58:18 yes
00:58:19 but it doesn’t have to be an uncertainty
00:58:22 of what the standard is right and it’s
00:58:26 given to us it’s just the matter do we
00:58:28 study it and try to understand it right
00:58:31 right no I think we have one last
00:58:35 verse okay so
00:58:38 uh I think there’s more I think I just
00:58:41 read 14 yeah there we mind3 but
00:58:46 anyway yeah you just read 14 yes okay
00:58:49 Josh 15 all
00:58:52 right and having spoiled principalities
00:58:55 and Powers he made a show of them openly
00:58:59 triumphing over them in it having
00:59:03 spoiled principalities and Powers now a
00:59:05 lot of people like to make this about
00:59:06 the uh devils and demons and what have
00:59:09 you guess what it’s
00:59:12 not he’s conquered the world yeah just
00:59:16 like he
00:59:21 said when he’s talking about
00:59:23 principalities and Powers he’s just
00:59:24 talking about the principalities and
00:59:25 powers of the world yeah he overcame the
00:59:27 world that’s another conquering
00:59:30 overpowering right same thing right this
00:59:33 is we’re not talking about uh we’re not
00:59:35 talking
00:59:36 about exorcism rituals against uh
00:59:39 against powerful demons no we’re talking
00:59:42 about just overcoming the world and
00:59:44 seing from and uh overcoming sin and
00:59:50 death those are the principalities and
00:59:52 powers that he
00:59:54 overcame yeah
00:59:57 okay on to the next one next verse
01:00:00 16 uh uh
01:00:03 Stephen let no man therefore judge you
01:00:06 in what you eat or in drink or in
01:00:10 respect of any holiday of the new moon
01:00:13 or of Sabbath days now so who is going
01:00:15 to be judging them okay yeah so the the
01:00:20 people so we need to keep in mind this
01:00:24 letter was written to
01:00:27 converts in a
01:00:30 very
01:00:31 very
01:00:33 very Pagan City okay right one of the 10
01:00:39 one of the 10 one of the seven wonders
01:00:41 of the Pagan world was there yeah and so
01:00:45 these
01:00:46 pagans or this is just like when a
01:00:49 family member converts to a different
01:00:52 religion okay right the family me
01:00:56 members who did not convert with them
01:00:59 give the converts
01:01:01 hell yeah they do that’s what’s going on
01:01:04 here and he and Paul is trying to tell
01:01:07 them don’t let them judge you for doing
01:01:11 what is
01:01:12 right right or or another way to look at
01:01:16 that is don’t accept the Judgment that
01:01:19 they lay on
01:01:20 you correct correct which is a bad Jud
01:01:24 because they are going to judge you
01:01:26 they will judge you so don’t accept the
01:01:29 Judgment that they lay on you for
01:01:31 keeping the holy days or the new moons
01:01:36 or the Sabbath days he’s not saying oh
01:01:39 just gave in so that they don’t judge
01:01:42 you yeah I know he’s saying the exact
01:01:45 opposite but uh anyway yeah he’s saying
01:01:48 keep these things right these things and
01:01:52 don’t accept their judgment of you for
01:01:54 doing them right so now it’s interesting
01:01:58 here let no man this men has to do with
01:02:02 non-believers because he doesn’t say
01:02:04 Saints it says no man Saints are those
01:02:08 who are trying to become like Yahweh
01:02:10 this is talking about the world here
01:02:13 right not
01:02:15 Believers
01:02:17 yep yep and what does it say also don’t
01:02:22 let them judge you in meat don’t let
01:02:24 them judge you because you don’t eat
01:02:27 don’t let them judge you because you
01:02:28 don’t eat shrimp right right so this is
01:02:31 going along with
01:02:32 kosher yeah
01:02:35 um and what holidays you
01:02:38 keep this is the holy days that’s the
01:02:42 annual this is the moonly and this is
01:02:45 the weekly so this is one of those
01:02:47 scriptures that’s often miscited or
01:02:52 misinterpreted uh because what it’s
01:02:55 telling them is to keep doing these
01:02:57 things yeah don’t worry and not to worry
01:03:00 about the judgments that are placed upon
01:03:02 you now this is funny here along with
01:03:06 these lines some people say these are
01:03:08 shadows of which used to be and that yua
01:03:12 did away with those but uh here 17
01:03:17 that’s a far stretch oh yeah well I no
01:03:21 it’s it’s an exact it’s the exact
01:03:23 opposite of what the words actually say
01:03:25 yeah but these are
01:03:27 sh I’m getting at so these are lessons
01:03:31 that teach you of things to come meaning
01:03:34 I just Isaiah 66 says Isaiah 66 says all
01:03:38 of this stuff is still valid right right
01:03:42 it does Isaiah 66 lists all of that
01:03:45 stuff as still valid in the Millennium
01:03:48 right yep including kosher including
01:03:51 kosher those who do not those who eat
01:03:54 swine will be destroyed
01:04:05 so if they’re trying to use these verses
01:04:07 to say you don’t need to do it they
01:04:09 really don’t understand no it’s what
01:04:12 they’re doing is what they’re doing is
01:04:14 they’re setting themselves up and
01:04:15 anybody who listens to them they’re
01:04:17 setting them all they’re setting them
01:04:18 all up for
01:04:19 Destruction yeah yeah which goes along
01:04:22 with Matthew 5 about people teaching
01:04:24 against the law right yep y um so okay
01:04:28 Zack and those those two
01:04:32 are some of the most
01:04:36 misused verses to promote
01:04:40 lawlessness yes
01:04:42 yes so Zack if you if you don’t mind
01:04:45 reading Verse 18 for
01:04:49 us let no man be all you of your reward
01:04:54 in a in a voluntary humility in
01:04:57 worshiping of angels intruding into
01:05:00 those things which he ha not seen vainly
01:05:04 puffed up by his fleshly mind wow this
01:05:08 is this is a warning against gnosticism
01:05:10 by the
01:05:13 way this is a warning against the
01:05:15 Gnostic against gnosticism which
01:05:17 Catholicism is full of by the
01:05:20 way and since and the uh and the
01:05:23 Protestants don’t get a pass because
01:05:25 they didn’t fix it yeah uh because it’s
01:05:27 still they kept they kept it yeah yeah
01:05:31 they did yeah they did they don’t get a
01:05:33 pass because they didn’t fix it um so
01:05:37 they you know it’s uh let no man
01:05:41 beguile your mind beguile you of your
01:05:44 reward so this also when you it take 16
01:05:49 to 17 in in context with
01:05:52 18 we now also realize that this is also
01:05:55 talking against these people that are
01:05:58 these people that are drawing people
01:06:00 away or judging people for keeping the
01:06:09 way yeah and uh verse 19 Josh all right
01:06:14 and and not holding the head with from
01:06:18 which all the body by by joints and
01:06:21 bands have nourishment ministered and
01:06:24 knit together increaseth with the
01:06:27 increase of God and not holding the
01:06:35 head that’s what
01:06:38 happened y that’s what happened to the
01:06:41 nent Christian church as in they let go
01:06:44 of the head Yeshua and his ways yes make
01:06:47 it clear right yes that’s that is what
01:06:50 happened to the
01:06:52 nent um followers of Christ
01:06:58 yeah they let go of the head they let go
01:07:03 the head just so it’s clear yeah Yeshua
01:07:06 is the head and Yeshua kept Torah and to
01:07:09 follow Yeshua to be his disciple is to
01:07:12 keep Torah y yeah as we read earlier
01:07:16 right
01:07:18 as in the New Testament after yeshua’s
01:07:21 death and Resurrection right in fact
01:07:24 verses 16 and 17 taking in context they
01:07:26 telling people to hold to the way yeah
01:07:32 to hold to the
01:07:33 Head yep good night guys I wherefore if
01:07:38 you be dead with Christ good night
01:07:40 buddy if you be dead with Christ from
01:07:43 the rudiments of the
01:07:45 world why is though living in the world
01:07:48 are you subject to their ordinance to
01:07:51 ordinances I’ll add their
01:07:54 ordinances h
01:07:59 well if you’re if you were baptized with
01:08:03 Yeshua as in the death right that’s what
01:08:07 if you are dead with Christ from the
01:08:09 rudiments of the world why is though
01:08:11 living in the world are you subject to
01:08:12 ordinances which are after the doctrines
01:08:14 and Commandments of men who teach you to
01:08:18 touch
01:08:22 not handle that I was just trying to say
01:08:25 the way to to help it make it obvious
01:08:28 that it’s talking about don’t touch the
01:08:30 things of the world so right yeah I mean
01:08:35 also well he’s asking it as a question
01:08:38 he’s asking it here as a
01:08:40 question um why are you doing this why
01:08:43 are you why are you allowing them to
01:08:45 take you away from The Keeping of the
01:08:47 way why are you allowing them why are
01:08:49 you marrying with
01:08:51 them right right in the jst
01:08:55 um makes it more clear what’s going on
01:08:58 here my personal opinion yeah I believe
01:09:00 I believe you I believe so because with
01:09:02 the baling which are after the doctrines
01:09:04 and Commandments of
01:09:07 men that you don’t touch it so that
01:09:10 means don’t keep the oral Torah which is
01:09:14 after the Commandments of
01:09:16 men don’t keep the don’t keep the
01:09:19 mingling of
01:09:21 paganism yeah with the doctrine of
01:09:23 Christ
01:09:25 which is the Catholic Church don’t keep
01:09:28 that yeah the Catholic Church admits
01:09:30 that they baptized all these practices
01:09:34 yeah yeah yeah and guess what everybody
01:09:37 else is Walking with the Catholic Church
01:09:40 all oh yeah major religions are walking
01:09:43 hand inand with the Catholic Church into
01:09:46 the new world religion yeah you know
01:09:50 they’ve already Pope John Paul II held
01:09:53 an ecumenical
01:09:56 meeting with all the major heads of all
01:09:59 the major religions and this happened
01:10:02 about what 7even to 10 years ago in
01:10:05 which during this
01:10:07 meeting all of the major religious
01:10:10 leaders
01:10:12 including the prophet of the LDS church
01:10:18 acknowledged the pope as the leader of
01:10:22 all world religions
01:10:26 that’s sick U that happened that has
01:10:31 happened that’s sick yeah and here’s the
01:10:34 but here’s the
01:10:37 thing in verse 22 is probably the most
01:10:40 poignant and
01:10:42 uh the most poignant thing in one of the
01:10:45 mo one of the more poignant things in
01:10:48 here which things have indeed show of
01:10:53 wisdom and that
01:10:56 show wisdom show is there on purpose
01:10:59 because it’s it’s not real it just looks
01:11:03 and yet in will worship and humility
01:11:06 neglecting of the body as to the
01:11:09 satisfying of the flesh not in any honor
01:11:13 to
01:11:15 y
01:11:16 or anyways not in any honor you know a
01:11:19 lot of a lot of these Pagan
01:11:22 practices um do involve the torture of
01:11:26 the
01:11:27 body uh yes uh Good Friday has a lot of
01:11:32 that I have a post on that yeah yeah and
01:11:35 so and
01:11:36 so
01:11:38 um it show of wisdom in will
01:11:44 worship
01:11:45 right not not true worship but will
01:11:49 worship like their will is going to make
01:11:53 things good right but it’s not true
01:11:56 worship correct will worship you see
01:12:00 that you see that in
01:12:03 protestantism pry Rel let’s not just
01:12:07 Corner them on that because the Catholic
01:12:10 Protestants EV I can’t say it uh the Bri
01:12:14 LDS
01:12:15 bites the evangelicals and the
01:12:18 evangelicals they all do it they all do
01:12:20 it yeah yeah yeah they all they all want
01:12:22 to make their will the will of G right
01:12:26 yeah come to me with their mouth but
01:12:29 their hearts are far from me they all
01:12:32 make is what will worship is and that
01:12:36 yeah and so you have and so you and also
01:12:40 these Splinter groups these Splinter
01:12:41 groups from these churches if they’re
01:12:43 not paying attention to Torah if they’re
01:12:46 not reading Torah if they’re finding
01:12:48 reasons to Discount Torah then they’re
01:12:51 also practicing will worship boom yes
01:12:57 yeah because it’s their will because
01:12:59 they’re telling God what his will is
01:13:02 yeah
01:13:06 right and they’re not accepting the
01:13:08 revelations of his will which have been
01:13:12 given Y which we’re actually not even NE
01:13:15 which is not even actually necessary for
01:13:16 us to pray over whether we should do
01:13:21 them this according to doctrine of
01:13:23 Covenant section 59
01:13:26 Torah is Torah Torah has always been
01:13:30 Torah it’s like
01:13:33 OU me no more concerning this matter
01:13:36 it’s according to the law and the
01:13:38 prophets trouble me no more concerning
01:13:40 this matter obey the law and the
01:13:43 prophets
01:13:46 right pretty
01:13:51 simple okay so that was Colossians
01:13:53 chapter 2 guess what folks it’s not
01:13:55 about lawlessness no it’s it’s about
01:13:58 keeping the law this is a whole another
01:14:01 hopefully this will help people
01:14:06 understand how people are twisting paw
01:14:09 unto their own condemnation and others
01:14:12 right
01:14:15 yep okay I’m going to stop