Scripture Study 2025-12-11 Renewed Heaven & Earth

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Talking about the coming renewed heaven and earth. Talked about the Philo Dibble document that Joseph Smith drew that is in the LDS Conference Center Roof. Catastrophe vs uniformitarianism. Ezekiel 1 is about the polar configuration. The polar configuration will be coming back during the wrath of the second coming. The polar configuration is a key in understanding second coming prophecy. It is more important to come under Yeshua’s covering and keep Torah. The Mighty and Strong One will be calling the Polar Configuration back which causes the wrath. Twenty-four elders points to government. The roads paved in gold is about people becoming sanctified by keeping Torah. False traditions of men are not Torah. Not everything was restored during Joseph Smith because of wickedness. Unity is by accepting YHWH’s Torah not pushing your own ideas. Everyone claims they want to do what Yeshua would do, while rejecting what Yeshua actually did. The electrical environment the polar configuration causes is the source of the improved life during the millennium. Daniel 2 talks of calling planets by witchcraft without hands or in other words YHWH’s priesthood. Symbolism of gold is either sanctification or Mystery Babylon. Trump was not promising the golden age of USA, he was signaling the golden age of Mystery Babylon. The myths about how Joseph Smith joined Freemasonry goes against Freemasonry rules. Polar Configuration went away because of our sins which the consequence of such is death. It will be coming back because All Things aka Torah is coming back and the majority of the people will keep it. It’s return causes the wrath upon the wicked for six moons the length of the 7th seal. Hebrew thought is functional, Greeks focus on information. Going over secular quotes and a passage in the D&C about the first & last millenniums. Kronos aka Saturn has to do with time. The grandfather clock is patterned after the Polar Configuration. YHWH gives Torah to all adults. A lot of war imagery goes along with the polar configuration. Ancient quotes follow the Hebrew pattern of using the past to predict the future. Morpheus in the Matrix is the Jesuits and are striving to cause an evil change. We are a creature when we are acting like the natural man. Adam and Noah both knew of Biblical Kosher dietary laws. When you have laws something is forbidden. The English translation of Elohim to god instead of judge causes a lot of misunderstanding. There is water on Earth that came from Saturn. YHWH’s prophets mentioned false gods when telling the people not to worship them, showing it’s okay to say false gods names, we are not to worship them or speak well of them. The tree of intimacy of good and evil is Satan’s tree. There multiple definitions for the word giant. Yeshua tells the rich man to do his tithing properly. The phrase evil eye is about being stingy. The idea of manifestation is from Satan. Celebrating YHWH’s High Holidays is a part of paying Tithing. Eve knew what she did was wrong when she partook of the fruit because she was taught by Adam. You are not able to love someone without knowing how to love them. Science shows there was intention and design in the creation. Being loyal is making a deliberate choice. Faith is trust and diligence. Stoning is patterned off of the wrath judgment. These quotes are describing the millennium within their religious tradition. No written records goes along with no judgements with a judge. YHWH descriptions of the Millennium is very clear where the secular quotes are hard to understand. Good men would die to give children the chance at life. Those who will receive Celestial or Terrestrial glories will be resurrected in an instant, where Telestial glory and sons of Perdition will suffer for a 1000 years. The fact that the Mighty and Strong One will be doing missionary work during the Millennium and people not keeping the High Holidays during the Millennium shows that there will be wicked alive during the Millennium. There is good in Anthony Larsen’s research, take it with a gain of salt.

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00:00:00 ready as I’ll
00:00:02 >> Okay. Uh, so Johnny here, uh, Ben’s son.
00:00:08 Oh, I should maybe rename those, but oh
00:00:11 well, too late now. Um, he was reading a
00:00:15 book
00:00:17 uh by Anthony E. Larson that I gave him.
00:00:20 Uh, this is my copy uh, and there shall
00:00:23 be a new heaven and a new earth. And he
00:00:25 had a couple questions. As you can see,
00:00:27 I have some uh notes. Oh, actually,
00:00:31 since I saw it, let me see if I can see
00:00:33 it again
00:00:35 before.
00:00:36 Okay, I’m going to pause one second.
00:00:39 Okay,
00:00:41 >> I I flipped it. This is the 50 dibble
00:00:44 document. Okay, so I’m sidetracking from
00:00:46 Johnny’s question just for a moment. Uh,
00:00:50 this is a a document that Joseph Smith
00:00:53 drew for his bodyguard at the time, Fib
00:00:56 Dibble. Okay. And you got um
00:01:01 the moon, the sun, A, B, and C. Okay. So
00:01:06 A is the Earth, B are the planets at the
00:01:10 north pole, and
00:01:13 uh C are the planets at the south pole,
00:01:16 and the moon goes around the Earth.
00:01:18 depends a earth as I said go ahead
00:01:22 >> all of the earth when all of the planets
00:01:24 are in the polar configuration what
00:01:26 happens
00:01:28 is a
00:01:31 it’s an electrical there’s an electrical
00:01:33 current that passes yes and that deals
00:01:37 uh what I will call the renewed heaven
00:01:40 and renewed earth to go more with modern
00:01:44 English uh because people forget that
00:01:47 new does mean renewed. Now the other
00:01:51 thing, this angle here is 22 1/2. That’s
00:01:55 not the current angle of the Earth’s
00:01:58 axis right now, but science does show
00:02:02 that magnetic north has been at
00:02:04 different places, which goes along how
00:02:06 the angle’s been different at different
00:02:08 times. Okay? And it actually does point
00:02:11 towards a confirmation of
00:02:14 catastrophist theory with regards to the
00:02:19 uh to things to the earth’s history.
00:02:22 >> Yes. Now Ben, for those who are not uh
00:02:25 familiar with that term, can you show
00:02:27 what is taught in mainstreams and and
00:02:30 then contrast them for us real quick? So
00:02:33 the mainstream thought
00:02:35 is that generally life has just kind of
00:02:39 slowly progressed
00:02:42 from
00:02:44 and that things on Earth have just kind
00:02:46 of slowly progressed from one thing to
00:02:48 the next thing to the next thing in a
00:02:50 generally orderly manner
00:02:54 >> which has been punctuated which they
00:02:57 have which they have had to punctuate
00:02:59 with catastrophes in order to make it
00:03:02 work.
00:03:06 The cat the catastrophist point of view
00:03:09 is that catastrophe is actually the norm
00:03:12 and that the way that we’re living now
00:03:16 wherein things haven’t been terribly
00:03:19 catastrophic
00:03:20 for the last oh
00:03:23 >> 4,000 years.
00:03:25 >> Well, no, I wouldn’t go that far back,
00:03:27 but there it’s
00:03:28 >> Yeah, I it pretty well.
00:03:32 Yes and no. So
00:03:35 >> yeah, it’s a little bit touchy there.
00:03:36 >> Yeah, it’s a little mixed there. Yes and
00:03:39 no.
00:03:40 >> This is abnormal.
00:03:44 This state of a this state of constant
00:03:47 uh this state of constantly largely
00:03:50 remaining the same, uniform, monotonous
00:03:54 is abnormal.
00:03:56 Catastrophe is the norm.
00:04:00 >> Yes. Um and uh I forget the verse, but
00:04:04 Peter brings out how people forget how
00:04:06 things were in the past.
00:04:08 >> Yeah.
00:04:09 >> Um I and I’m not that’s kind of a side
00:04:14 point here. Now, one thing just to go
00:04:16 back to that 50 dibbo document, I do
00:04:18 want to share something. Actually,
00:04:21 probably a couple pictures, but I’ll
00:04:23 start with this one. Okay. So this in
00:04:28 the center is
00:04:31 the LDS conference center with some
00:04:34 pictures overlaid on it that are then
00:04:37 duplicated on uh each site. Okay. So
00:04:40 there’s the five dibble document that’s
00:04:42 in the new heaven and new earth which I
00:04:45 would prefer to say in today’s language
00:04:47 renewed heaven and renewed earth. Okay.
00:04:51 Um half the planets are on the north
00:04:54 pole and half are on the south.
00:04:57 >> Yes, I I do agree that uh the three that
00:05:01 I tend to focus on and those who are in
00:05:04 this subject focus on are Saturn, Venus
00:05:08 and Mars. But there’s also Jupiter up
00:05:11 there. Okay. Does play a crucial role in
00:05:14 the polar configuration as well? Uh the
00:05:18 sun gives light.
00:05:21 >> Yeah. So the sun’s right here. It’s not
00:05:24 part of the polar configuration. See how
00:05:26 it’s not at the poles.
00:05:29 So
00:05:31 uh the earth which is a goes around the
00:05:34 sun. Uh the moon goes around a which is
00:05:37 the earth. And then there’s planets at
00:05:39 the north pole and then planets at the
00:05:42 south pole. The south the south pole
00:05:44 would be sat at the south pole would be
00:05:46 Saturn which which
00:05:48 >> no south pole is not Saturn.
00:05:50 >> Oh that’s earth. Is that Venus and Mars?
00:05:53 >> Yeah. So A is Earth. And what I would
00:05:57 say is B because look at the um
00:06:01 >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mars and
00:06:04 >> Mars and the planer. Here’s the planer
00:06:06 with the moon and the sun and the A
00:06:08 earth. B is going to be Jupiter which is
00:06:12 not focused upon but then Saturn, Venus
00:06:15 and Mars and then C is the leftover
00:06:19 planets. Okay.
00:06:20 >> Yeah. Yeah. Jupiter, Saturn, Venus and
00:06:23 Mars. Yeah. Because they all have to be
00:06:24 together or else the heaven man doesn’t
00:06:26 form.
00:06:27 >> Yeah. The heaven man is primarily
00:06:32 um
00:06:34 uh Saturn, Venus and Mars but the
00:06:38 foottool is earth aka. So there there is
00:06:41 four and you’ll even see that in Ezekiel
00:06:44 one also. Okay.
00:06:45 >> Every time in the scriptures when you
00:06:48 read about the earth is his foottool you
00:06:51 are reading about the polar
00:06:52 configuration.
00:06:54 >> Yes. And it’s going to be coming back
00:06:56 during the wrath or the seventh seal
00:07:01 from the book of Revelations. It’s
00:07:03 talked about in other places including
00:07:05 the DNC and Daniel and just throughout
00:07:10 the scriptures that it is
00:07:13 since it’s forgotten history, it’s hard
00:07:15 to know what’s going on. Um I have
00:07:19 to finish that focuses it from Daniel 2
00:07:21 and the sea and some Galatians. So
00:07:25 >> now I do want to point out that the
00:07:27 polar configuration is a key to
00:07:31 understanding last days prophecy.
00:07:33 >> Yeah. Um I I agree. So on this point
00:07:36 though, if Ben’s done with that point, I
00:07:39 want to add
00:07:40 >> Well, the main reason why I want to say
00:07:41 it’s a key is because it’s not the only
00:07:44 key.
00:07:45 >> Yeah. And I will add it’s not the most
00:07:48 important key. Okay?
00:07:50 >> Um the most important key is being right
00:07:54 with Yahw as in coming under his
00:07:57 covering and returning to his Torah,
00:08:00 repenting
00:08:02 uh and then helping others do the same.
00:08:04 >> Yeah. The
00:08:08 really the only person that needs to
00:08:10 worry about this is the coming mighty
00:08:12 and strong one because he’s going to be
00:08:14 calling it back as prophesied throughout
00:08:17 the scriptures. Okay? Uh which is what’s
00:08:21 going to cause the wrath and like
00:08:24 wormwood, the mountain, the planet, the
00:08:27 comet. There’s a lot of names for it.
00:08:30 the stone
00:08:33 >> out of without hands.
00:08:36 >> Yeah. Because it was called forth by
00:08:38 priesthood.
00:08:40 >> And the reason why this cannot be a
00:08:44 church
00:08:45 >> because no church grows without hands at
00:08:48 work.
00:08:49 >> Yeah. And I know there’s a quote that
00:08:52 attributes that to Joseph Smith. I
00:08:54 actually don’t believe that quote is
00:08:56 valid anymore. Um anyways that’s another
00:09:00 subject. Let me uh show
00:09:04 uh a picture of the conference center.
00:09:10 Uh is it this one?
00:09:13 Yeah. Okay. So here is a satellite
00:09:16 picture of the conference center. Okay.
00:09:19 So uh and it’s got a little picture of
00:09:22 this on the side. Okay. So you can see
00:09:26 the five dibble one, two, three. If you
00:09:29 go on the roof, these first top two top
00:09:34 circles, it looks ugly at the
00:09:38 um garden that’s on the roof. And nobody
00:09:41 knows what to say about them. I do, but
00:09:44 um it’s because it’s the five dibble.
00:09:47 Okay.
00:09:48 >> Yeah.
00:09:48 >> And then this one right here, the blue
00:09:51 one, is the water fountain. I’ll do a
00:09:53 picture of that in a minute. And then
00:09:55 here is that plasma from Mars going down
00:09:59 on a triangle.
00:10:01 >> That is what is generally in mythology
00:10:04 referred to as the heaven man.
00:10:07 >> The whole thing. Not not just the Mars
00:10:09 part. Yes. But the whole thing. Um now
00:10:13 here it’s a little harder to see because
00:10:15 of where the crescent is. It’s at
00:10:18 midnight. I know that sounds weird, but
00:10:20 the way that the crescent worked to keep
00:10:23 track of time is different than the
00:10:25 modern Greek clock. Okay, for one, it’s
00:10:29 counterclockwise. That’s why it talks
00:10:31 about in Egyptian uh old text about the
00:10:35 crescent going backwards. And this is
00:10:38 one thing that Egyptologists do not
00:10:41 translate correctly because they don’t
00:10:43 know what to do with it. Okay. But
00:10:46 you’ll see here you’ll have the blue the
00:10:48 water fountain in the middle and the
00:10:50 four main streams. Uh you’ll see that
00:10:53 right there. Okay. And the crescent here
00:10:56 is almost midnight and going to the
00:10:59 point how it’s almost the second coming.
00:11:03 Okay. Now, if it was at exact midnight
00:11:07 or I’m gonna um show me
00:11:12 the it would the crescent would be like
00:11:14 this. Okay. And actually, this is how
00:11:16 you’re supposed to pray. I’m not going
00:11:18 to get into that. Okay. Um
00:11:21 >> the crescent is used on the jihad flags
00:11:24 on all the Arabic nations.
00:11:26 >> Uh no, that is of the moon.
00:11:29 >> That’s not the right crescent.
00:11:31 >> That’s That’s the crescent on the moon.
00:11:33 Not of the polar configuration.
00:11:35 >> Yeah, that’s not the right.
00:11:37 >> Oh, the crescent. I mean to say the
00:11:39 crescent moon.
00:11:40 >> Yeah, but the crescent moon.
00:11:42 >> Yeah. So, I I know you meant Well, um
00:11:45 but it’s So, here’s a picture as Ben was
00:11:49 talking about.
00:11:52 >> Uh here’s the heaven man and see here
00:11:55 with the arms or the wings.
00:11:58 >> Resident has to do with Saturn.
00:12:01 Well, it’s actually on all three.
00:12:05 >> Yeah, I was oversimplifying.
00:12:07 >> Yeah, but on the heaven man, it’s only
00:12:11 on Saturn, but on different
00:12:14 configurations, it’s on
00:12:16 >> multiple of them, which actually uh the
00:12:20 book of Revelations does have one that
00:12:22 deals where it’s on all three. Okay. Um
00:12:25 and it’s the 24 elders which I although
00:12:29 I do believe it points to the polar
00:12:31 configuration it also points to how um
00:12:37 24 does deal with governance and also
00:12:41 how there’s 12 apostles from the old
00:12:44 world and 12 apostles from the new. So
00:12:46 but that’s a whole another subject.
00:12:48 Okay.
00:12:50 Um, but I before we get started, let me
00:12:53 uh do one quick video and then I want to
00:12:57 say a little side thing and then we’ll
00:13:01 get into um
00:13:04 um Johnny’s specific questions. Okay.
00:13:10 So, I will put a link to this, but I
00:13:12 have a polar configuration link and on
00:13:15 there at the top I have this video
00:13:19 that we’re going to watch.
00:13:35 Even
00:13:48 that this
00:14:25 Okay. I I do think Ben wanted to say
00:14:27 something
00:14:29 was that as you read the video is
00:14:32 playing from that perspective. You can
00:14:34 see how people were watching it. Um and
00:14:38 it’s a call it a comment.
00:14:41 >> Oh. So, um, yes, but this also goes
00:14:45 along with how the words comet and
00:14:48 planet in ancient terminology were used
00:14:52 interchangeably.
00:14:54 >> That’s true.
00:14:55 >> Um, it and that that gets into a big
00:14:58 subject and I probably not
00:15:02 >> that’s a different topic entirely.
00:15:03 >> Well, it’s related, but it it’s it’s
00:15:07 more technical details
00:15:09 >> to the side. I’m looking and while I was
00:15:11 >> and we’re we’re trying what the I the
00:15:14 the question being posed is
00:15:18 what is the new heaven and the new earth
00:15:20 and how does the polar configuration
00:15:25 uh play into that and so we want to try
00:15:28 to avoid necessarily technical
00:15:30 descriptions.
00:15:31 >> Sure. Sure. And we’ll get into that. The
00:15:33 one thing I do want to bring out though
00:15:35 is
00:15:36 um
00:15:38 something related to that and it’s more
00:15:41 related to what’s going on in Zion, but
00:15:44 it does relate to the renewed heaven and
00:15:46 renewed earth. Okay? And then we’ll get
00:15:49 into those uh questions from Johnny. Um
00:15:53 but
00:15:54 uh the book of Revelations brings out
00:15:58 how
00:16:00 the roads
00:16:03 or I think better translation paths
00:16:06 in heaven are made out of gold.
00:16:11 >> Yeah. As the comet approached, it looked
00:16:14 like it’s something from a distance like
00:16:18 pretty.
00:16:19 Uh yeah, it would look pretty, but I
00:16:22 don’t believe that is the focus. Okay.
00:16:25 So, gold has to do with sanctification.
00:16:29 >> Oh,
00:16:29 >> yes. Gold.
00:16:31 >> And the path of sanctification is Torah,
00:16:35 which goes along with how Torah is
00:16:38 what’s going to unite people in Zion and
00:16:41 the millennium.
00:16:44 >> Yeah. I mean, we see how universally the
00:16:48 world rejects actual Torah today. And uh
00:16:54 you know, not the madeup commandments of
00:16:56 men that they call Torah, but the actual
00:16:59 Torah is
00:17:00 >> well a just so bit people know what
00:17:02 Ben’s getting at is a lot of people
00:17:04 claim that the oral Torah or the false
00:17:06 traditions of men that Yeshua actually
00:17:09 stated makes Torah Torah null and void
00:17:13 is not Torah despite what people claim.
00:17:16 So with that
00:17:20 the with the universal with the almost
00:17:22 universal rejection actual Torah
00:17:25 especially when you consider the Torah
00:17:27 is the revealed mind and will of Y which
00:17:29 did not stop with Moses.
00:17:34 >> No I mean we have uh even if you think
00:17:37 there’s no more past the New Testament
00:17:40 there was more being revealed during the
00:17:42 Old Testament and then more during the
00:17:44 New Testament. what Torah mean?
00:17:45 >> Well, I’ll tell you the New Testament
00:17:47 prophesies of more coming. So
00:17:50 >> Torah means instruction and way.
00:17:55 And so
00:17:58 if people aren’t getting it right, they
00:17:59 need more instruction, right?
00:18:03 >> Well, uh, we all need more instruction.
00:18:07 Okay. I’m I’m just I’m I’m being
00:18:08 technical Timmy here. Okay.
00:18:09 >> I’m just pointy
00:18:12 trying to keep it simple here. Well,
00:18:14 yeah, and I’m being technical.
00:18:16 >> Realize that we all need instruction,
00:18:17 but
00:18:19 generally as a group, humanity has not
00:18:22 gotten his ways right.
00:18:26 >> Yeah. So, on that what Ben’s bringing
00:18:28 out uh it goes along with uh Elma 129
00:18:33 through 111 among other places that if
00:18:36 you’re not keeping what you have, you’re
00:18:39 going to lose and not get more. But
00:18:42 those who are and those who are
00:18:46 those who are trying to keep what they
00:18:48 have will receive more light. So more
00:18:51 Torah is given.
00:18:53 >> Correct. And in fact, we did a recording
00:18:56 recently from the DNC talking about the
00:18:58 restoration. Why they weren’t giving
00:19:00 more is because they weren’t keeping
00:19:01 what they were given.
00:19:03 >> Right. And so when we see how disunified
00:19:07 the world is and how everybody
00:19:09 universally rejects Torah, oh wait a
00:19:12 minute, what if we accepted Torah?
00:19:15 Wouldn’t that have the opposite effect?
00:19:17 >> Yeah.
00:19:20 >> Right.
00:19:21 >> And so, you know, I you know, I’m just I
00:19:24 just want to kind of keep keep it on
00:19:27 that level here with Torah.
00:19:31 Keep it on the simple logical level,
00:19:33 >> right?
00:19:35 >> The simple logic level where you’re uh
00:19:39 you’re rejecting it, everybody’s going
00:19:42 their own way. If you accept it,
00:19:44 wouldn’t you unify? If if it was
00:19:47 accepted, wouldn’t people wouldn’t it
00:19:48 unify people?
00:19:49 >> Yeah. Well, if you all agree on what
00:19:52 Yahweh wants us to do instead of trying
00:19:56 to force your own opinions upon people,
00:19:59 Yeah. It would be because Yahweh is the
00:20:02 standard. Everybody claims that they
00:20:05 want to do what Yahweh would do.
00:20:09 But when it actually comes down to it in
00:20:10 this world, uh when you try to share
00:20:15 what he actually did and that we should
00:20:17 do it, even to those people who claim
00:20:20 they want to be like Yeshua, they hate
00:20:22 it.
00:20:24 >> Right.
00:20:26 So get back I’ll let you get back to
00:20:28 your thing. Sure. Sure. So, um the the
00:20:32 the reason I brought up the polar
00:20:33 configuration related to the renewed
00:20:35 earth and the renewed heaven
00:20:39 uh and I’m saying it renewed on purpose
00:20:41 is because they used to be at the poles
00:20:45 and has been brought out that causes
00:20:47 electrical current to happen. This
00:20:51 electrical current actually causes
00:20:53 plants to grow more
00:20:57 um abundantly.
00:21:00 It cause um
00:21:03 plants to grow and their fruit to grow
00:21:06 bigger. In fact, it also decreases
00:21:10 disease in humans.
00:21:12 >> Yes. And uh along those lines, uh they
00:21:16 even use this technique of more uh
00:21:19 electrical pulsing into humans
00:21:23 when other techniques it’s more
00:21:25 profitable.
00:21:28 um
00:21:29 aren’t doing what they’re supposed to.
00:21:32 Um and there’s a lot of science on this
00:21:34 I including a lot of science on doing
00:21:38 electrical current with plants,
00:21:40 including putting copper rods into the
00:21:45 ground next to the plants to get that
00:21:47 electrical current flowing to get the
00:21:49 plants to grow more. I have I’ve never
00:21:53 said this before, but an unfinished post
00:21:55 I hope to finish soon. Uh titled what
00:22:00 was it that deals with this in the
00:22:03 millennium actually. Um this renewed
00:22:07 heaven and renewed earth. A lot of the
00:22:12 prophecies that go along with it,
00:22:14 including older age losing living to the
00:22:16 age of a tree like an atom almost a
00:22:20 thousand years, deals with this
00:22:22 electrical current that
00:22:26 modern medical science knows about, but
00:22:28 they don’t like to use because it’s not
00:22:30 so profitable.
00:22:32 Um, heals people. And I’ve had family
00:22:35 members actually have electrical pulses
00:22:38 used on them for certain parts of the
00:22:40 body to get them healed better and
00:22:43 quicker cuz other techniques did not
00:22:46 work. So they leave it as a last resort.
00:22:50 Um and they say it’s experimental. I
00:22:54 mean whatever it it’s because it’s less
00:22:58 profitable.
00:22:59 >> Yeah. It’s uh it’s the only it it’s uh
00:23:04 more it’s actually more effective and if
00:23:07 people would employ it first last we’d
00:23:11 see an immense decrease in a lot of
00:23:13 diseases.
00:23:14 >> Yeah. Hence um that in the millennium
00:23:19 people won’t get sick cuz it’s the the
00:23:24 electronic universe model actually has a
00:23:27 lot of science that supports this and
00:23:30 actually is predicts things better than
00:23:32 the standard model. But
00:23:38 the standard model has a lot of things
00:23:40 based off of the occult cabala. Okay.
00:23:42 And it just does not work. um where
00:23:45 electronic universe model actually has
00:23:48 things that does work and it actually
00:23:50 helps explain a lot of the prophecies
00:23:53 in or about the millennium and the
00:23:57 second coming events actually on top of
00:23:59 that and some weird
00:24:01 quotes from Joseph Smith
00:24:04 that uh makes it all unify and with the
00:24:08 understanding that
00:24:12 the heaven’s going to be renewed
00:24:15 And I I can show that from Daniel,
00:24:17 including
00:24:19 the so-called witchcraft, not without
00:24:22 hands, because he just speaks it because
00:24:25 in Daniel 2, it actually says witchcraft
00:24:29 without using hands,
00:24:31 >> right? And the the uh yeah, the thing is
00:24:36 is that the renewal of the polar
00:24:37 configurations is not just the renewal
00:24:39 of heaven, it’s also the renewal of
00:24:41 earth.
00:24:43 Yes. In causing the electronic uh
00:24:47 current to happen to make plant life
00:24:50 better and human life better. Okay. Um
00:24:56 and and some of these quotes I think
00:24:58 we’re going to look at here deals with
00:25:02 how uh
00:25:06 almost all if not all societies have
00:25:09 this idea of what they call the golden
00:25:11 age. Okay. Now,
00:25:16 both sides use this imagery of golden.
00:25:19 Okay. Now, as I mentioned, uh on the
00:25:21 good side, the the golden roads or paths
00:25:25 goes along with sanctified, which means
00:25:28 you’re keeping Torah. Okay. On the
00:25:32 wicked side, it’s mystery Babylon. Hence
00:25:35 the head of gold is Babylon from uh
00:25:40 Nebuchadne’s dream from Daniel 2.
00:25:44 >> And you’ll see you’ll see a lot of
00:25:47 Babylonic misconceptions as we read
00:25:50 through the descriptions of the Greeks
00:25:53 and the Romans and the Chinese of this
00:25:57 golden age. Um, also I want to point out
00:26:00 that when Trump was elected, he promised
00:26:04 to bring in the golden age.
00:26:07 >> Yeah. And so it’s not the golden age of
00:26:10 America as he claimed.
00:26:12 It’s really the golden age is Babylon.
00:26:16 Mystery Babylon.
00:26:18 Trump is using keywords
00:26:21 and putting um
00:26:24 hiding things in plain sight. For those
00:26:27 who are not initiated
00:26:31 so to speak
00:26:33 all the time
00:26:35 >> golden age
00:26:37 >> yeah that because that’s I I tend to
00:26:39 refer to those who do not know the
00:26:41 secrets is uninitiated because largely
00:26:44 most of the people who know the secrets
00:26:46 are initiated.
00:26:48 >> Yeah the majority. Um so I will admit I
00:26:51 am an ex-Mason. I
00:26:54 uh believe some quotes about Joseph
00:26:56 Smith that I currently do not believe
00:26:58 are authentic. That’s not the time to
00:27:01 discuss that. But I will say just
00:27:03 quickly,
00:27:05 the myths about Joseph Smith adjoining
00:27:08 goes against actual Mason rules. And
00:27:11 I’ll leave it at that. Um so, but both
00:27:15 sides have this idea of a golden age.
00:27:18 Um, and they’re both mainly pointing to
00:27:22 a better time. Now, they will disagree
00:27:26 on how it will happen in some of the
00:27:28 details, right?
00:27:31 >> Because we’re going to go through the
00:27:32 mythologies and then we’re going to be
00:27:34 going through the scriptures and
00:27:36 >> well, we we’ll go with the quotes and
00:27:38 we’ll go from there. Okay. Um but uh the
00:27:43 quotes about from the scriptures from
00:27:45 the millennium
00:27:47 um all talk about these wonderful things
00:27:50 as in better farming, more food,
00:27:56 uh people not dying and living to the
00:27:58 age of a tree. It’s because of this
00:28:00 electrical environment that when the
00:28:03 planets come back to the poles that this
00:28:06 will cause that modern science on both
00:28:10 plants and humans have shown to make us
00:28:14 healthier and live longer and produce
00:28:16 more.
00:28:17 >> To keep to put it really simply, it’s
00:28:20 ideal for life.
00:28:21 >> Yeah, it is. And it it went away because
00:28:26 of our sins. Hence the consequence of
00:28:29 sin is death. It will be coming back
00:28:33 because
00:28:36 all things aka Torah is going to be
00:28:39 restored and the majority of the people
00:28:41 will keep it.
00:28:44 Hence Zion and so it will be brought
00:28:46 back
00:28:48 as a reward.
00:28:52 Um
00:28:54 >> of course its return will also be a
00:28:56 judgment upon the wicked.
00:28:58 >> Yes. Um on that point uh the righteous
00:29:02 as this is happening through six moons
00:29:05 which is the length of the wrath or the
00:29:08 seventh seal
00:29:10 um
00:29:12 will be going through hell basically.
00:29:15 Now a lot of them most of them will die
00:29:18 but not all of them. And that’s why the
00:29:20 mighty strong one after
00:29:24 the wrath will go be a missionary to
00:29:26 bring them to Yahweh’s ways. In fact,
00:29:29 it’s stated how he’ll go to the kings
00:29:30 and queens and they’ll start to rise up
00:29:34 or be sanctified as in the wake starting
00:29:38 to see the problem and arise actually
00:29:41 keeping Torah to stand up straight. Mhm.
00:29:46 >> Uh that sanctification. Awakening is
00:29:49 justification. Okay. Um
00:29:52 >> yeah, it’s not just figuring out that
00:29:55 it’s not just figuring out that there’s
00:29:56 a problem in Kansas.
00:29:58 >> Well, yeah. I I mean, just talking about
00:30:01 the problem is I mean, I guess you can
00:30:03 kind of see that waking up, but it’s not
00:30:05 justification.
00:30:07 The real waking up is starting to do
00:30:09 something.
00:30:10 >> Um because in Hebrew thought, it’s
00:30:13 functional.
00:30:14 You listen and obey,
00:30:17 meaning you do something about it. It’s
00:30:20 not like the Greek ideas. It’s just
00:30:22 information.
00:30:23 >> Well, you know, it’s kind of like if
00:30:25 there if someone told me that there was
00:30:27 going to be an earthquake directly under
00:30:29 my house and I didn’t do anything and
00:30:33 say say I even believed him but didn’t
00:30:35 do anything about it, I’m sleeping on
00:30:37 it.
00:30:39 >> Yeah. You’re you’re sleeping or as in
00:30:42 you’re dead. you’re you’re not acting
00:30:45 >> right.
00:30:46 >> I I the the ways of thought of the
00:30:49 Greeks and the Hebrews um are different
00:30:53 and and a lot of people try to force
00:30:56 Greek thought upon
00:30:59 Hebrew scriptures and they get very
00:31:01 confused. So,
00:31:04 >> um, so with that in mind, um, I do think
00:31:07 I Johnny, I’ll share the quotes and you
00:31:10 can read, uh, where it’s the most
00:31:13 convenient for you.
00:31:16 Um, so, let me share this the picture. I
00:31:21 I’m hoping this is the first page. Let
00:31:24 me double check.
00:31:25 Yeah. Yeah. So, I believe this is where
00:31:28 we’re talking about the golden age here
00:31:30 or the age of Kronos. So just because
00:31:34 before we start golding going the age of
00:31:37 Kronos Kronos is Saturn. Okay.
00:31:41 >> Yes.
00:31:41 >> Uh and Saturn has uh positive imagery to
00:31:45 it and negative imagery. Now I will
00:31:48 explain one real quick. Kronos has to do
00:31:51 with time.
00:31:54 And the reason why is that crescent we
00:31:56 looked at earlier went around Saturn
00:32:00 counter counterclockwise and that was
00:32:02 keeping the time of day and it was a
00:32:06 24-hour clock. Okay, just uh when you
00:32:11 see how the polar configuration is, it
00:32:14 would take the where the sun was shining
00:32:17 to get the crescent and the earth to
00:32:19 turn all the way around to get the
00:32:20 crescent in the same spot again. That
00:32:23 was your 24hour day in Greek thought.
00:32:26 Okay.
00:32:26 >> Because most people aren’t aware that
00:32:29 the Greeks kept time by Saturn.
00:32:33 Uh they often
00:32:35 these these references to the crescent
00:32:38 and uh midnight and what these time
00:32:42 references often are
00:32:45 misunderstood. So,
00:32:48 the Greeks and the Egyptians used the
00:32:51 imagery, but they were late enough in
00:32:53 time they weren’t actually using Saturn.
00:32:56 Okay. But the this idea of Saturn
00:33:01 keeping track of time has stayed with
00:33:04 society and Kronos
00:33:07 uh the grandfather clock. I mean, you go
00:33:10 look at the clock. Look, there’s a
00:33:13 circle at the top and the circle at the
00:33:14 bottom. That doesn’t look like anything
00:33:16 we saw before. Uh, and the red and the
00:33:19 most traditional is it’s red.
00:33:22 >> Yeah,
00:33:22 >> that’s not plasma from Mars that went
00:33:25 down. Oh, wait. Yeah, it is. Um, I I
00:33:30 there’s so many connections. I know this
00:33:32 sounds really freaky weird. That’s fine.
00:33:36 New ideas do. Okay.
00:33:40 >> Especially when they are especially
00:33:45 The polar configuration is not known by
00:33:48 the vast majority of humanity.
00:33:51 >> No, it it it
00:33:53 >> nor is the catastrophist model the
00:33:56 mainstream.
00:33:58 >> No,
00:33:59 >> the catastrophist model of earth history
00:34:02 and polar configurate and knowledge of
00:34:04 the polar configuration actually go hand
00:34:07 in hand.
00:34:10 >> Yeah. In fact, even when they used to
00:34:15 call the planets gods goes along with
00:34:18 the heaven man. I I there there’s a lot
00:34:21 of connections here, but we’re getting
00:34:23 sidetracked. Let’s try to go back to
00:34:25 Johnny. But I did see Kronos and I did
00:34:27 want to explain that Saturn. And the
00:34:29 reason they’re using Saturn is because
00:34:31 in the ancient days before the Greeks
00:34:34 and the Egyptians
00:34:36 um which they carried the tradition
00:34:38 forward not always completely
00:34:40 understanding it um is because the
00:34:44 crescent on Saturn that turned
00:34:46 counterclockwise because of the way the
00:34:48 earth turned. Okay.
00:34:50 >> Okay. So do you want to read that quote
00:34:52 Johnny?
00:34:53 >> Yes. And this and this first quote is
00:34:56 written by Herod. He his
00:34:59 >> Herod
00:35:01 >> Herodos.
00:35:02 >> Yeah.
00:35:02 >> Herodos.
00:35:05 >> First the immortal dwellers on
00:35:12 uh
00:35:14 >> Olympus.
00:35:15 >> Olympus.
00:35:15 >> Not Olympus. Yes.
00:35:18 forged a golden race of men who lived in
00:35:23 the in the time when Kronos was king in
00:35:27 heaven.
00:35:27 >> Okay. All right. Go ahead, Ben.
00:35:30 >> So, a golden race of men.
00:35:34 So, here again, we’re playing with this
00:35:36 idea of gold.
00:35:38 start we start playing with this idea of
00:35:40 gold created by uh and it’s created by
00:35:45 the created by the gods of Mount Olympus
00:35:48 uh
00:35:50 >> so Mount Olympus is the mount that’s
00:35:53 created with uh Mars and the plasma okay
00:35:58 and the golden race of men now uh
00:36:01 depending on what side you want to look
00:36:03 at this on this is either the sanctified
00:36:06 or the
00:36:09 uh top followers of Satan as in mystery
00:36:11 Babylon. Okay.
00:36:14 >> And given this is given that this is
00:36:16 coming from Herodos I but we we’ll go
00:36:20 on. We’ll go on.
00:36:21 >> Oh yeah. I’m just putting it out there.
00:36:24 Uh and lived in the time of Kronos was
00:36:27 king in in heaven. So heaven is what you
00:36:30 see when you look up into the sky. Okay?
00:36:32 And it was king because it was the
00:36:34 biggest planet you saw in in and either
00:36:39 in the northern hemisphere. I Jupiter is
00:36:42 bigger than Saturn, but because of where
00:36:44 it was in the placement and um distance
00:36:48 above Saturn, it was not really seen.
00:36:51 Okay.
00:36:52 >> Distance makes a lot of things look
00:36:54 smaller.
00:36:55 >> Yes. You don’t believe me? Go look at a
00:36:58 mountain from your car. So
00:37:01 >> it looks smaller than the tree that’s
00:37:02 next door to you. Um anyways, but it was
00:37:06 king because it was the biggest. Okay.
00:37:10 >> Okay. So Kronos was king in heaven
00:37:12 starting from there.
00:37:14 >> They they lived like gods.
00:37:17 >> Okay. I want to bring out that it in in
00:37:19 the pagan worlds, these planets are the
00:37:22 gods. Um Mars is a god. Actually, they
00:37:26 actually say Mars is a god in some of
00:37:28 the cultures.
00:37:29 Yeah. Um, yeah. And, uh, depending on
00:37:34 whether you’re Greek or Roman, you’re
00:37:37 going to Mar, you’re going to hear Mars
00:37:40 or you’re going to hear Aries, which is
00:37:43 a sign of the zodiac, which is which,
00:37:46 uh, Mars is predominant.
00:37:49 >> Yeah. Which is just another way of
00:37:51 saying Mars. I’m sorry. It just is.
00:37:55 >> Okay. Go on. and their souls knew
00:37:59 nothing.
00:38:01 No, knew uh neither sorrow nor toal.
00:38:06 >> Okay, so this goes along with how when
00:38:09 they were where they were supposed to
00:38:11 be.
00:38:13 Um it goes along with the prophecies of
00:38:16 the millennium.
00:38:18 >> The big sorrow has to do with babies
00:38:21 dying early. And there’s prophecies of
00:38:25 the mothers not having to worry about
00:38:27 that in the millennium. It’s because of
00:38:29 the better environment and creating
00:38:31 better and more healthy uh humans and
00:38:34 hence mothers to birth. Okay.
00:38:39 >> Yes.
00:38:39 >> Nor toil is the hard work of um uh
00:38:44 getting vegetables from the ground.
00:38:46 >> Yes. When that when the polar
00:38:48 configuration is back in place, uh
00:38:52 growing growing your food will be a lot
00:38:54 less work. It will not require nearly
00:38:58 the constant supervision that it
00:39:00 requires now.
00:39:01 >> Yeah. including a lot better than
00:39:03 putting those metal rods next to plants
00:39:05 that people do who uh study um I’m
00:39:09 forgetting what the term of it is right
00:39:11 now but where they’re using the
00:39:14 electrical environment to create better
00:39:17 plant uh growth and fruits forgetting
00:39:22 the name right now sorry
00:39:24 uh you can if nothing else you can tell
00:39:26 I didn’t prepare
00:39:29 so okay go on
00:39:32 I did some of that and
00:39:34 >> No, that’s fine, Johnny. Cuz you you you
00:39:36 had the question. It’s obvious that you
00:39:38 did some preparing. That’s fine.
00:39:43 >> Okay. Neither were
00:39:45 >> Nei Neither were they subject to age.
00:39:48 >> Oh, like uh living to the age of a tree
00:39:52 as in uh to give or take a thousand
00:39:55 years.
00:39:58 >> Go ahead.
00:40:00 But
00:40:02 every but ever the same in hand and
00:40:08 foot.
00:40:09 >> Okay. So in the same in hand and foot.
00:40:11 So let’s look at the symbolism of hand
00:40:13 is works and foot is path or is in the
00:40:17 law. Okay. So
00:40:19 >> here’s an interesting thing. This is
00:40:22 very similar to the way that Moses is
00:40:24 described as he’s
00:40:27 taken up
00:40:29 to receive his to receive a vision of
00:40:32 the land of promise that his strength
00:40:34 had not abate that his that his eyesight
00:40:37 had not failed nor had his natural
00:40:40 strength abated.
00:40:42 >> Which goes along with the electronic
00:40:45 environment and how it helps the body
00:40:48 heal.
00:40:50 Okay. But uh but ever the same in works
00:40:56 and law which goes along how uh they are
00:41:00 unified and during Zion and the
00:41:03 millennium.
00:41:05 Okay. Go on Johnny.
00:41:08 >> They spent their time in luxury
00:41:12 >> leisure. They they they spent their time
00:41:17 in leisure apart from evil.
00:41:20 >> Okay. So their life is easier, right?
00:41:23 Leisure. They’re they’re they had more
00:41:26 relaxing time because
00:41:29 of how much easier it was to do the
00:41:33 farming because it just grew better.
00:41:37 Right?
00:41:38 >> So I’m going to point out that this is
00:41:40 written by a Greek. So their definition
00:41:42 of evil, the definition of evil that
00:41:45 he’s using here is actually very
00:41:47 important. And what he’s talking about
00:41:49 is simply sorrow.
00:41:54 >> Okay. I I I wouldn’t have caught that.
00:41:56 But um but I I see that playing uh both
00:42:00 in the prophecy either wickedness or
00:42:03 sorrow as in the prophecies of the
00:42:06 millennium, right?
00:42:08 >> Yeah.
00:42:09 >> They both play into that. So, um I I
00:42:12 don’t know the philosopher Greek mind
00:42:15 that well. Ben knows that very better
00:42:18 than I do. Um but either way, it it
00:42:21 fits, right? So, you can see here,
00:42:24 although this is not scriptural cannon,
00:42:27 they’re pointing to the same thing when
00:42:29 you know how to read behind the the
00:42:31 lines, right? Or uh I’m doing this more
00:42:36 to make fun. Read the white space.
00:42:39 Anyways,
00:42:41 sorry that was probably not very nice of
00:42:43 me, but anyways. Okay. Uh, come on,
00:42:45 Johnny. The bounte
00:42:47 >> the bounteous earth bore fruit for them
00:42:52 of her own will.
00:42:54 >> Oh, look. They didn’t have to put any
00:42:56 effort. That sounds like the Garden of
00:42:58 Eden,
00:42:59 >> doesn’t it?
00:43:00 >> Yeah. which had uh the polar
00:43:03 configuration causing this electrical
00:43:05 environment to have the plants
00:43:08 just do stuff. There is no uh desert
00:43:11 anymore. Okay.
00:43:14 Okay. Go ahead, Johnny.
00:43:16 >> In plenty and without
00:43:19 strength,
00:43:21 >> it’s stint. But implently means a lot.
00:43:24 Uh Ben, you want to define stint for us
00:43:27 or I can go to the dictionary.
00:43:29 And this is basically that that’s
00:43:32 basically it’s without it’s basically
00:43:35 without restraint.
00:43:36 >> Yeah. Okay. So it’s overflowing,
00:43:39 >> right?
00:43:40 >> Yeah. And that goes along with the
00:43:42 prophecies of the millennium which also
00:43:44 points back and the millennium follows
00:43:47 the Garden of Eden to be honest. Okay.
00:43:50 Because it’s a return, a renewed heaven
00:43:53 and a renewed earth.
00:43:55 This is one of those places where you
00:43:57 can cite one of the articles of faith.
00:43:59 We believe that the earth will be
00:44:00 renewed and receive its paradisical
00:44:02 glory.
00:44:04 >> Correct. Um so, okay, Johnny, they
00:44:07 lived.
00:44:08 >> They lived in peace.
00:44:11 >> Okay, wait a minute. Um what causes
00:44:14 peace?
00:44:16 >> Torah.
00:44:18 >> Yeah, living Torah. Because Torah tells
00:44:20 us how we are to interact with Yahweh,
00:44:24 our neighbors and oursel.
00:44:27 >> Yep.
00:44:28 >> Now, uh, everybody actually
00:44:31 wants people to live or act according to
00:44:34 Torah towards them. In today’s world,
00:44:37 they think they’re the exception and
00:44:39 they don’t have to keep it towards
00:44:40 others or themselves, but they want
00:44:43 everybody to keep it with regard to
00:44:45 them. Okay? showing they they actually
00:44:49 it is written on our hearts as Yahweh
00:44:51 states in uh or Yahweh through Mormon in
00:44:56 Moroni 7.
00:44:57 >> But at the same time, the fact that it’s
00:45:00 written on our rebellious and natural
00:45:03 hearts
00:45:05 dams us.
00:45:07 >> Well, yeah, because uh it shows that we
00:45:10 know what is right even though we choose
00:45:12 not to keep it.
00:45:15 >> Uh okay. Uh, go ahead and and quiet
00:45:19 >> and uh and quiet in their lands.
00:45:23 >> Okay. Okay. Real quick. Quiet in their
00:45:26 lands means no more war.
00:45:32 The loudness or the busyiness or the um
00:45:38 the planning
00:45:40 um the roaring
00:45:43 has to do with wars. Okay.
00:45:46 >> Their lands
00:45:48 indicates inheritance.
00:45:52 >> But yes, but even more here with the I
00:45:55 think with the quietness, it goes more
00:45:58 how uh people aren’t
00:46:02 fighting for their lands. Okay. Now,
00:46:05 part of the reason why the noisiness
00:46:07 goes with waring is because of the
00:46:09 chauffear that goes along with war,
00:46:12 which was heard in heaven. And a lot of
00:46:14 imagery for war actually goes along with
00:46:17 the polar configuration because it was
00:46:20 fearful. People feared when these
00:46:23 planets moved because they knew when
00:46:26 they moved it caused
00:46:29 fire and brimstone. Sounds like second
00:46:32 coming. Yeah, it is.
00:46:34 If you’ve ever been in the vicinity
00:46:37 of a meteor
00:46:39 as it comes down to earth,
00:46:42 it sounds like a chauffear blast. Long
00:46:48 and loud.
00:46:49 >> Yeah. It’s part of the reason why it’s a
00:46:51 war cry to be honest because it sounds
00:46:53 like that.
00:46:54 >> And I think you hear a little bit of
00:46:57 those sounds with walking with dinosaurs
00:46:59 with the uh triceratopsians. But anyway,
00:47:02 that’s that’s a sidetrack.
00:47:04 >> Well, that’s more speculation. So,
00:47:09 >> you described dinosaurs as pure
00:47:11 speculation.
00:47:12 >> Yeah, I So, I do believe in dinosaurs. I
00:47:15 don’t believe the theories that go along
00:47:16 with them. Uh, since Johnny brought it
00:47:19 up, I’ll just say this. With the
00:47:21 electrical environment, the the animals
00:47:25 can uh grow to be larger.
00:47:28 >> They can grow much larger. Um, and it’s
00:47:32 and I will also say this,
00:47:34 there are many people
00:47:37 who believe that the models, the
00:47:40 skeletal models are put together wrong.
00:47:43 >> I wouldn’t doubt that. And in addition,
00:47:45 you never find, no one gets famous for
00:47:47 finding baby dinosaurs, so they always
00:47:50 come up with new ones. So that there
00:47:52 there’s a lot of interesting politics
00:47:54 and
00:47:56 and finagling that goes on, right? But
00:48:00 anyways, um they live quite with with
00:48:04 many good things. It just goes along
00:48:06 hell. There’s going to be abundance,
00:48:08 right?
00:48:09 >> With many good things,
00:48:13 rich in flocks and dear to the blessed
00:48:17 gods.
00:48:17 >> Okay. Rich in flocks. That goes with
00:48:20 sheep followers.
00:48:22 >> Y
00:48:23 >> this actually goes along how the
00:48:24 majority are going to follow Yahweh in
00:48:26 the millennium.
00:48:28 Okay. Rich in followers
00:48:32 and blessed
00:48:34 Elohim
00:48:37 as in people are going to praise Elohim
00:48:40 and give him reverence during the
00:48:42 millennium. Okay.
00:48:43 >> Yeah. Now I I do understand this is not
00:48:48 canon here but once we kind of know a
00:48:50 lot of the imagery and history
00:48:54 uh you can see how the idea of the
00:48:58 millennium has survived through all
00:49:01 civilizations. Well
00:49:03 >> it’s because wait a minute let me one
00:49:05 one last sentence.
00:49:07 >> Noah
00:49:08 >> Noah taught it to all. Okay go ahead
00:49:10 Ben.
00:49:11 >> Yeah. So what what Herodottos is writing
00:49:14 about is a reflection on an age past
00:49:17 that nobody can remember at that point.
00:49:21 But that reflection on an age past
00:49:24 indicates that there was a time when
00:49:27 this polar configuration was there and
00:49:30 life was easier and it’s a point forward
00:49:34 to when it returns.
00:49:36 >> Yes. They’re you uh uh the in Hebrew
00:49:39 prophecy in ancient Greek because they
00:49:42 used to follow this but they deviated
00:49:44 from it. They use the past to tell you
00:49:46 the future.
00:49:47 >> Yeah.
00:49:50 >> Okay. Uh Johnny, can you read your next
00:49:54 quote? The I that’s a really weird word.
00:49:59 M I don’t know.
00:50:01 Uh, can you die?
00:50:04 >> Let’s see here.
00:50:06 >> The metamorphus.
00:50:09 Is that what it is?
00:50:10 >> Yes. The metamorphus.
00:50:12 >> Okay.
00:50:14 >> Oh, yeah.
00:50:14 >> Oh, the metamorphosis.
00:50:16 >> Oh, okay.
00:50:17 >> Talking about metamorphosis literally
00:50:19 means change.
00:50:21 >> Yeah. Yeah. transformation
00:50:23 >> from
00:50:25 >> well and I I think it’s meta
00:50:28 is the stuff behind the scenes to keep
00:50:32 it simple and Morpheus is the change.
00:50:34 >> Yes.
00:50:35 >> Hence just I I will just say this real
00:50:38 quick. Uh the Matrix Morpheus the
00:50:41 Jesuits are trying to cause the change.
00:50:43 Yeah.
00:50:43 >> So anyways, uh just to bring up some
00:50:46 Gnostic fun movie ideas, but anyways, go
00:50:49 ahead and read the quote there.
00:50:51 >> Johnny
00:50:53 here.
00:50:53 >> OID.
00:50:54 >> This is OID here.
00:50:56 >> Yes.
00:50:58 >> The first millennium was the first of
00:51:02 was the age of gold.
00:51:04 >> Okay. So this goes along with the Garden
00:51:06 of Eden. It it it fell because Adam
00:51:09 parttook of the forbidden fruit aka sin.
00:51:12 Okay. Because fruit goes with works.
00:51:15 >> Yeah.
00:51:15 >> There’s good works and bad works
00:51:17 according to Torah as in righteousness
00:51:20 or sinning. Um and it this golden age
00:51:23 shows how people were living longer and
00:51:26 easier to live back then. Okay. Which
00:51:29 they want everybody wants to get back
00:51:31 to. Okay.
00:51:35 >> Go on.
00:51:36 >> Then living creatures trusted one
00:51:39 another.
00:51:40 >> Okay. So these living creatures
00:51:43 um in where this is used in the
00:51:46 scriptures, this has to do with the
00:51:47 natural man. Okay?
00:51:51 Uh because when you’re acting like a
00:51:53 creature, you’re following your impulses
00:51:56 from your natural man and not using
00:51:59 Yahweh’s
00:52:01 law to bridle in your passions. Okay? As
00:52:04 Emma put it to his son, it
00:52:06 >> is the Greek mindset that has us
00:52:09 believing
00:52:10 that there was that no animal ate
00:52:13 another animal.
00:52:15 >> Yeah. And that’s not get the reason why
00:52:19 Noah knew about the h how to pick seven
00:52:23 clean animals or seven clean pair of
00:52:26 animals and and two of the others is
00:52:30 because he knew what a clean animal was
00:52:31 because you were eating it,
00:52:34 >> right?
00:52:35 >> It wasn’t new. it was just not really
00:52:38 focused on and the JST or new
00:52:41 translation inspired version shows that
00:52:43 too. And just FYI, there’s kosher plants
00:52:46 too, but that’s another side subject.
00:52:48 Sorry.
00:52:49 >> Yeah,
00:52:54 >> people did well without the thought of
00:52:57 ill.
00:52:58 >> Oh, so this goes along with that
00:53:00 electronic uh environment that we’ve
00:53:02 talked about how it keeps people from
00:53:05 being sick. Okay,
00:53:07 >> here’s the thought of ill. When he’s
00:53:09 talking about the thought of ill, it’s
00:53:11 without ill will. They did well without
00:53:14 ill will towards each other.
00:53:16 >> Oh, it’s not the health issue then.
00:53:18 Okay.
00:53:19 >> So, this
00:53:20 >> Okay.
00:53:22 >> So, the people did well by each other
00:53:25 without thinking of
00:53:29 how to take advantage of one another.
00:53:31 >> Yeah. Which that would go along with
00:53:33 keeping Torah, right?
00:53:35 Yes.
00:53:36 >> Okay. Uh thank you for that
00:53:39 clarification there, Ben. Okay. Go on.
00:53:42 Uh Johnny,
00:53:43 >> nothing forbidden in the in the book of
00:53:46 laws.
00:53:47 >> Uh so the way I would take that is
00:53:50 people didn’t want what was forbidden in
00:53:52 the book of laws,
00:53:54 >> right? Um, now I recognize this as uh
00:54:01 Babylonic twisting because even if it’s
00:54:03 from the Greek, it’s Babylonic because
00:54:06 the Greek philosophers learned from the
00:54:08 Babylonians from the Babylonian.
00:54:11 >> So
00:54:13 this is a Babylonic twist.
00:54:16 They say that they’re saying that it’s
00:54:18 the law that caused the problem
00:54:21 when technically it’s only the lack of
00:54:25 desire to break the law that kept there
00:54:29 from being problems.
00:54:31 >> Okay. I I can see what Ben’s saying, but
00:54:34 uh um but just the fact that there’s
00:54:37 laws shows that there’s something
00:54:38 forbidden. So there’s a little logic
00:54:42 error in the way the Babylons thought.
00:54:44 Hence their problems,
00:54:47 >> right? Well, Babylon’s thoughts always
00:54:49 have problems with basic always have
00:54:52 problems with basic logic.
00:54:54 >> Such just if if anything and everything
00:54:59 >> I do try to interpret them for people,
00:55:01 but it’s uh it’s uh it gives me a
00:55:05 headache.
00:55:06 >> Uh sure because it’s it’s really messed
00:55:08 up. But anyways, I it is good to uh
00:55:11 where Ben’s a little more educated in
00:55:13 that area than I am. Um so it’s good to
00:55:16 have that background there. So anyways,
00:55:18 uh go on and read the next line there,
00:55:21 Johnny.
00:55:22 >> No fears,
00:55:24 no prohibitations.
00:55:26 >> No prohibition.
00:55:28 >> No pro no prohibitions.
00:55:30 >> So you see that Babylonic twist is
00:55:33 actually an inversion where it’s making
00:55:36 good evil and evil good. Yes. Which goes
00:55:39 along with venostics ornosticism, right?
00:55:43 >> Yeah. Uh well, the Gnostics are a very
00:55:47 uh that’s a big time that’s a big time
00:55:50 thing in their a big time stick in their
00:55:53 thing, but it’s also in paganism. It’s
00:55:55 also in every it’s it’s everywhere.
00:55:59 >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I I I agree with him on
00:56:01 that. That’s just I it’s the one term I
00:56:04 like to use for it. The fact that Satan
00:56:06 rules in this world is an inversion.
00:56:10 >> Yes. I completely agree with that.
00:56:13 >> So, it’s really satanic.
00:56:16 Honestly, it’s not just Gnostic, though.
00:56:20 That’s a nice shortorthhand.
00:56:24 >> Yes. Yeah.
00:56:27 >> So, I I I’ll I’ll leave it at that.
00:56:30 >> Yeah. And the bronze has to do with
00:56:32 weakness. Um, it’s one of the weaker
00:56:34 metals, just FYI. But anyways,
00:56:38 >> but they’re they’re saying you can do
00:56:40 whatever you want and and
00:56:43 learn about weakness, right?
00:56:47 >> Go on. read in bronze
00:56:51 or in the
00:56:53 sculpted
00:56:55 >> sculpted
00:56:57 >> sculpted face or or in the scotic face
00:57:02 of judge and master.
00:57:07 So, um, I I in the Hebrew though, I
00:57:10 don’t know about the Greek, Ben, we’ll
00:57:11 have to bring this out, but in in the
00:57:13 sculpted face of the judge and master,
00:57:16 this goes along with how Paul says, uh,
00:57:19 imitate me as I imitate the Messiah,
00:57:22 right?
00:57:22 >> Yeah. The sculpted face of the judge.
00:57:25 This is something that was regularly
00:57:27 done with very powerful figures is that
00:57:29 they they would become a bust and almost
00:57:33 a god in and of themselves.
00:57:37 Well, that does go along how with Elo
00:57:40 Elohim is translated today as a Greek
00:57:42 god. So, Right.
00:57:44 >> Right.
00:57:45 >> Um, which I I’ll be honest, I do believe
00:57:48 that translation causes a lot of
00:57:51 misunderstandings.
00:57:53 >> Yes, it does
00:57:54 >> on on multiple aspects. And I’ll leave
00:57:56 that for now because that’s a whole
00:57:58 another sidetrack.
00:58:01 >> So, go on. No, no bracelet.
00:58:06 >> Brasslipped.
00:58:08 >> No brasslipped
00:58:11 trumpets called.
00:58:13 >> Okay, real quick. So, uh, brass has to
00:58:16 do with the law, hence the brass plates.
00:58:19 The focus is the law. Okay. And trumpets
00:58:22 is calling repentance. So they’re saying
00:58:26 in their ideal mystery of Babylon and
00:58:29 golden age
00:58:31 um there’s no law and no one calling
00:58:34 anybody to repentance because you can do
00:58:37 what thou wilt that is the whole of the
00:58:38 law.
00:58:39 >> Interesting thing is is that they keep
00:58:42 read that no brass lipped trumpets what
00:58:46 >> cold
00:58:48 nor clanging swords. So they immediately
00:58:53 associate it with war, the call to
00:58:56 repentance with war.
00:58:59 >> Well, yeah. And then also there’s the
00:59:00 iron sharpens irons with the cleaning of
00:59:03 swords.
00:59:04 >> Yep.
00:59:05 >> Um that no one’s improving in their
00:59:08 mystery Babylon golden age, right? Mhm.
00:59:12 >> Which is a twist because in in Zion
00:59:18 there won’t be cleaning sores because
00:59:20 they’re united as in they believe in the
00:59:23 same thing.
00:59:24 >> Well, I wouldn’t say it’s a twist
00:59:25 because in a twist up is still up and
00:59:27 down is still down. It’s an inversion.
00:59:30 It really is an inversion of the
00:59:33 reality.
00:59:35 >> I I get your point. I don’t know if I
00:59:38 quite agree with that, but it anyways it
00:59:42 it I I’m fine with inversion or twist.
00:59:44 Yeah, I’m not going to heckle off of
00:59:46 that. So,
00:59:48 >> go ahead, Johnny.
00:59:50 >> Nor helmets marched the streets,
00:59:54 country and tower.
00:59:58 >> So, uh if you go back to the armor of
01:00:01 Yah, the helmets has to do with about
01:00:03 what you think about, protecting what
01:00:04 you think about. And the streets are
01:00:07 your path,
01:00:08 >> right?
01:00:08 >> So, and and the mark on the forehead has
01:00:14 to do with what you think about. The
01:00:16 path is what you do. So, they’re saying
01:00:19 just think about what you want and do
01:00:21 what you want.
01:00:22 >> Yeah. So, here’s the here’s some things.
01:00:26 Here’s something that I have learned
01:00:28 over the years.
01:00:31 You see what
01:00:34 Mystery Babylon wants is a whole bunch
01:00:36 of very open-minded people.
01:00:39 >> Yes.
01:00:41 >> Who, you know, there’s no boundaries on
01:00:44 what they will accept from other from an
01:00:47 outside from an authority source, etc.
01:00:50 >> Well, there is one limit, righteousness,
01:00:52 >> right?
01:00:54 They extremely open-minded.
01:00:57 I have found that if you’re going to
01:01:00 heir on the one side or the other,
01:01:02 open-mindedness or close-mindedness, you
01:01:05 are better off airing on the side of
01:01:07 closed-mindedness,
01:01:10 because most of the ideas that they’re
01:01:12 going to put in your head are not in
01:01:14 your best interest.
01:01:16 >> Well, yeah, they’re promoting wickedness
01:01:18 and they’re doing it little by little.
01:01:21 So,
01:01:22 but I would say you’re better off not
01:01:26 airing on one side or the other.
01:01:30 Um, but if you were to heir on one side
01:01:33 or the other, choose the right and be
01:01:36 close-minded about it.
01:01:38 >> Yeah. And so here they’re parting to
01:01:41 pointing to the point just before the
01:01:43 flood where people could do all this and
01:01:46 then got destroyed be because of their
01:01:49 sins. Okay. And uh Noah preached
01:01:53 repentance for 600 years before the
01:01:57 flood came. Correct. Or am I
01:01:59 >> Yes, he did.
01:02:03 >> including 120 years while he was
01:02:06 building the ark.
01:02:07 >> Yes. Uh or or Noah uh I might be getting
01:02:11 some of the numbers wrong, but anyways,
01:02:12 Noah preached for a long time because
01:02:14 maybe it was 600 when the flood came and
01:02:18 he preached 120. 600 years when he went
01:02:20 into the ark. He preached for 120 years.
01:02:24 >> No. Yeah. Yeah. So, I’m remembering some
01:02:25 of the numbers wrong a little bit, but
01:02:27 anyways. Um, but they did not want to
01:02:32 hear it. They wanted So, they’re talking
01:02:34 about their mystery Babylon here, which
01:02:38 happened
01:02:40 um before the flood or the starting the
01:02:43 falling the way of the polar
01:02:45 configuration.
01:02:47 Uh it started with Adam but it was uh
01:02:52 most severe around the flood. Now this
01:02:55 may sound kind of weird but there is a
01:02:59 channel thunderbolts and they’ve done
01:03:00 some research on this that there’s water
01:03:03 on earth that came from Saturn. Now the
01:03:07 account of the flood talks about how
01:03:09 some came from beneath and some from
01:03:12 above. Some that came from above I do
01:03:15 believe is from Saturn.
01:03:17 >> It wasn’t just rain, folks.
01:03:21 >> Yeah. Um Yeah. And and that’s a whole
01:03:25 that subject of rain is a weird one.
01:03:28 We’re not going to get into that. But
01:03:29 anyway,
01:03:30 >> we’ll leave that alone. We’ll leave that
01:03:31 alone.
01:03:31 >> It’s going into weather technicalities.
01:03:33 I don’t want to do anything.
01:03:35 >> Yeah. Yeah. We’re not going to get into
01:03:36 that. But um anyways, this is I’m trying
01:03:40 to uh with Ben bring out um some of
01:03:43 these perversions that’s going on the of
01:03:46 how they’re pushing mystery Babylon
01:03:48 instead of Zion in the millennium. Okay.
01:03:52 >> And I will and I to come off of what
01:03:55 Stephen is saying here. Ever since um
01:04:01 Ham and Nimrod’s rebellion against Noah
01:04:08 they’ve been trying to get back to that
01:04:13 to the way the world was be just before
01:04:16 the flood.
01:04:17 >> Yes, they were. Um which is what this is
01:04:22 describing. Um,
01:04:25 there’s parts of it Ben catches better
01:04:27 than I do, right? But I do think the two
01:04:30 of us together are are doing a good job.
01:04:32 But anyways,
01:04:34 go on. Had never heard of of war
01:04:39 and seasons travailed
01:04:43 through the year of pe through the years
01:04:45 of peace.
01:04:47 >> So I I mean this is a perversion. They
01:04:50 um because they fought with each other
01:04:52 because they’re all stealing from each
01:04:53 other.
01:04:54 >> This is a straight This is actually a
01:04:56 straight lie.
01:04:58 >> Yeah.
01:04:58 >> Because there was nothing but constant
01:05:00 bloodshed just before the flood.
01:05:03 >> Yeah. Yeah.
01:05:05 I guess in a sense though it was just
01:05:07 fighting and not war because war is more
01:05:09 country against country,
01:05:10 >> right? Yeah. That that that that could
01:05:13 be a possibility. Maybe that’s how
01:05:15 they’re taking because war has a
01:05:17 specific definition that we do need to
01:05:19 remember. It’s country against country
01:05:20 where they could fighting they’re just
01:05:22 fighting neighbor against neighbor.
01:05:25 Right.
01:05:25 >> Right. That’s true.
01:05:27 >> And that’s not
01:05:30 technical definition war.
01:05:33 >> Right.
01:05:35 >> Because war is more organized. But
01:05:37 anyways, that’s a minor thing.
01:05:41 >> Go on.
01:05:43 The innocent earth learned neither
01:05:49 bread
01:05:49 >> spade or plow.
01:05:51 >> Neither spade nor
01:05:53 >> huh or
01:05:55 >> plow
01:05:56 >> plow
01:05:57 >> nor plow.
01:05:58 >> Uh though a spade and a shovel and a
01:06:01 plow is a farming tool to rip up the
01:06:04 earth. So it’s here it’s talking here it
01:06:08 is talking about the blessed condition
01:06:11 that occurs when the um
01:06:15 the the electric uh the electric
01:06:18 alignment is in place and the plasma is
01:06:20 flowing.
01:06:22 >> Yes. Um or I’ll say I meaning the same
01:06:25 thing I’ll say it a little different
01:06:26 when the polar configuration there is
01:06:28 call which causes the electrical flow
01:06:31 that makes plants thrive.
01:06:34 >> Yeah. And hence where and I think it was
01:06:37 in the previous quote we looked how they
01:06:39 would just glow grow overflowingly on
01:06:42 their own.
01:06:43 >> Yeah.
01:06:45 >> Which is uh talked about in millennial
01:06:48 um prophecies also. Right.
01:06:51 And modern science has proved this
01:06:54 keeping in mind the electronic universe
01:06:57 model brings out when planets are close
01:06:59 to to each other there’s electrical flow
01:07:02 between them. Okay.
01:07:05 And they they they even bring that out
01:07:08 with comments that come. Okay. It’s it’s
01:07:11 there. It’s just not talked about.
01:07:15 Okay. Go on, Johnny. After the plow.
01:07:18 >> She gave her riches as fruit hangs from
01:07:24 the tree.
01:07:25 >> So the she here is earth. Um, now to be
01:07:29 specific, uh, considering this is, uh,
01:07:32 Greek, they’re probably going to be Gaia
01:07:35 would be the name if I remember
01:07:36 correctly.
01:07:37 >> Uh, yeah. Uh, Oid is a Roman, but yeah,
01:07:40 they were selling Greek thought anyway.
01:07:42 So, yeah.
01:07:43 >> Yeah. Okay. So, well, there they they
01:07:44 all these things have multiple names, so
01:07:46 whatever. Sorry.
01:07:48 >> Right. We’ll go with Gaia. It works.
01:07:50 >> Yeah. I I I I know enough that I’m
01:07:52 happy. Uh, Ben does know this area
01:07:55 better than I do. Okay. Yeah, we’ll just
01:07:58 go with Gaia for now.
01:07:59 >> Yeah, but either way, this is bringing
01:08:01 out how uh the plants are going to uh
01:08:05 easily give their fruits, right?
01:08:07 >> Right.
01:08:08 >> Yeah. Go on, Johnny.
01:08:10 >> This is not the mention of these the
01:08:13 mention of these gods is actually not
01:08:15 forbidden. It’s actually forbidden to
01:08:17 mention them in a state of worship.
01:08:19 >> Yeah. Um and on that point we’ll also
01:08:22 say when uh the prophets called out and
01:08:25 said don’t worship this god
01:08:28 uh they said the names
01:08:31 they and they weren’t breaking Torah and
01:08:34 mentioning them because it’s in
01:08:36 reverence as in you’re giving heed and
01:08:39 worshiping them.
01:08:41 >> Right?
01:08:42 They the prophets in the Old Testament
01:08:44 did use the names of the false gods to
01:08:47 say, “Don’t worship them.” And they were
01:08:50 not breaking Torah when they said that
01:08:52 name.
01:08:56 I I mean, take everything into context.
01:08:58 Don’t just take something twisted from
01:09:00 somebody on the internet that’s not
01:09:03 following the whole
01:09:04 >> It is unlearned and unstable.
01:09:07 >> Boy, are you saying that?
01:09:08 >> Yes. Very good. As in to quote
01:09:12 Peter and how people misinterpret Paul’s
01:09:15 teaching of Torah. So anyways,
01:09:18 >> wait. Are you saying it’s not a sin to
01:09:20 say bow or
01:09:22 >> No, it’s not. It’s a sin to reverence
01:09:25 bell
01:09:26 >> way to say the name of a god.
01:09:29 >> Oh, okay. Okay. If you’re especially if
01:09:32 you’re using it like especially if
01:09:34 you’re doing it like you’re the
01:09:34 reference book.
01:09:36 >> Well, yeah. And then also even more
01:09:38 particular what the prophets did in the
01:09:40 Old Testament was call out the worship
01:09:42 of that God. In fact, even in the New
01:09:44 Testament
01:09:46 too. Um it’s not as common in the New
01:09:49 Testament. There’s the different focus.
01:09:52 But anyways, it it’s
01:09:55 >> Yeah,
01:09:56 >> things changed a little bit. We’ll leave
01:09:58 it at that. That’s a whole another side
01:09:59 subject.
01:10:00 >> Yeah, that’s
01:10:01 >> okay. Uh move on, Johnny.
01:10:04 before we get too far off that.
01:10:06 >> Yeah.
01:10:09 >> So, I think you’re on grapes.
01:10:12 >> Grapes dropping from the vine. Cherries,
01:10:16 strawberries,
01:10:18 ripened in silver,
01:10:23 shadows
01:10:25 of the mountain. Okay, so grapes from
01:10:29 the vine. that definitely goes back to
01:10:31 wine and thus the atonement or the
01:10:34 opposite of the atonement. Okay, which
01:10:37 is probably what actually is here. Um
01:10:41 so very little effort being needed for
01:10:44 the harvesting as the fruit would
01:10:48 literally fall off the plants probably
01:10:50 because it’s so large.
01:10:53 >> Yes. And and though on on the cherry and
01:10:56 the strawberries, there is sexual
01:10:58 induendos there that I’ll just leave it
01:11:00 at that. I don’t want to get into. And
01:11:02 the silver lining of the shadows is the
01:11:07 uh good stuff of the sins and the
01:11:09 context that’s going on here on the
01:11:11 mountains or hills would probably be a
01:11:13 better translation. Probably would be an
01:11:15 educated guess just because of context.
01:11:18 Uh, not that I can see the original
01:11:21 language and whatnot, but anyways, um,
01:11:24 just an educated guess. I think Hills
01:11:26 would be better there.
01:11:28 >> Yeah.
01:11:29 And go on.
01:11:31 >> And in the shade of Joe Jo’s
01:11:38 miraculous tree,
01:11:40 >> Jo
01:11:41 >> of Jo’s miraculous tree, the falling
01:11:44 acorn.
01:11:46 So, Ben, do you know Joe’s miraculous
01:11:48 tree?
01:11:49 >> Uh, this is uh this is a reference to
01:11:52 the to um the tree of Zeus.
01:11:56 >> Yeah.
01:11:59 >> Or I will say Satan’s tree.
01:12:01 >> Yes. The tree of knowledge of good and
01:12:03 evil.
01:12:04 >> Yeah. Yeah.
01:12:05 >> She has background to also the Norse.
01:12:08 And interestingly enough, it talks about
01:12:11 how what falls from it is an acorn
01:12:14 >> or or in modern vernacular uh would be
01:12:18 an apple.
01:12:19 >> Yeah. Or a nut.
01:12:24 >> Yeah. Well, this I I’m just showing how
01:12:28 the basic themes have stayed the same
01:12:30 even if the phrase of us changes just a
01:12:32 little bit.
01:12:33 >> Yeah. So, you know, this is so this is a
01:12:36 really interesting thing. It shows that
01:12:37 they are aware that there was a better
01:12:40 time. It shows that they’re trying to
01:12:43 get back to it, but they have completely
01:12:46 misplaced what made it a better time.
01:12:50 >> Oh, yeah. Well, because they’re here
01:12:52 they’re saying it’s their wickedness is
01:12:55 caused it, but it’s that’s actually what
01:12:57 took it away.
01:13:00 >> Right. In fact, part of bringing it back
01:13:03 is destroying the wicked.
01:13:05 >> Right. Joe’s Joe’s miraculous tree in
01:13:08 fact kind of comes from a little bit
01:13:11 also from the Norse thing with the tree
01:13:15 >> that no it’s that is a
01:13:18 what you you’re getting that a little
01:13:20 wrong because Job’s miraculous tree was
01:13:23 around uh before Idrasil was ever
01:13:27 mentioned. Oh,
01:13:29 >> so but the main point is well we don’t
01:13:33 know that but before we have recorded
01:13:34 mention of
01:13:38 but the important thing is is that the
01:13:40 two ideas coincide
01:13:43 across
01:13:45 cultural lines
01:13:51 and Odin hangs himself on Idrasil to
01:13:55 gain wisdom.
01:14:00 So he hangs himself on the tree of
01:14:02 knowledge of good and evil.
01:14:04 >> Satan’s tree.
01:14:06 >> Now Odin is Satan
01:14:09 >> now. Okay. So just so we’re clear on
01:14:11 because um the knowledge is actually
01:14:15 intimacy with good and evil. Okay? Just
01:14:19 as Adam knew Eve and bore children, it
01:14:24 was intimacy. Okay? Just like Odin
01:14:28 had sex with both gods and giants,
01:14:35 >> good and evil.
01:14:37 >> Yeah.
01:14:40 Yeah. Um and and giants even in the 1828
01:14:44 dictionary uh
01:14:48 has meanings other than just really tall
01:14:51 people taller than the Empire State
01:14:53 Building. I’ll leave a link to um
01:14:57 >> the book of Enoch stuff that talks about
01:14:59 some of those details. But uh Johnny,
01:15:01 you want to finish the last sentence?
01:15:05 >> Springtime, the single season of the
01:15:08 year.
01:15:09 >> So you mean like uh plants were growing
01:15:14 all year long because of the electrical
01:15:18 environment that’s going on.
01:15:20 >> And it does seem to indicate that
01:15:21 there’s only one season. Yeah,
01:15:24 springtime the single season of it’s the
01:15:27 single season of the year.
01:15:30 >> Even though the seasons might be
01:15:32 considered to be changing, it will not
01:15:35 automatically take effect.
01:15:37 >> Well, no, it it’s not to the drastic
01:15:40 that we have now because plants are
01:15:42 growing all the time.
01:15:43 >> Yeah. So, and so that and so you see
01:15:47 once again you see that evidence in a
01:15:50 ancient society, the Roman society of
01:15:53 knowledge of a time when life was
01:15:56 easier.
01:15:58 >> Yes. Pointing back to the millennium
01:16:01 which they’re using to to what they
01:16:03 wanted to be in the future. Hence using
01:16:06 the past to describe the future.
01:16:10 >> Absolutely. They’re still using that
01:16:13 same ancient prophetic technique.
01:16:16 >> Yeah. They they
01:16:18 here they are. It’s not so much
01:16:20 nowadays, right? But in the more ancient
01:16:24 writings. Yes.
01:16:25 >> Yeah.
01:16:26 >> Um and so uh go ahead and read the other
01:16:29 last quote on that page, Johnny.
01:16:32 >> This is a this is a quote from sacred
01:16:34 literature from Kindleism, which it has
01:16:37 its own problems. We’ll discuss that on
01:16:41 a different day.
01:16:42 >> Yeah.
01:16:45 >> Men rather bought.
01:16:48 >> No. Men neither.
01:16:50 >> Men neither.
01:16:52 >> Nor neither sold.
01:16:54 >> Bought or sold.
01:16:57 >> Bought or sold. Sold.
01:17:01 >> Okay. Go on.
01:17:02 >> There were no poor and no rich. Okay.
01:17:08 So, this goes along with how during uh
01:17:13 the good people, especially Enoch or
01:17:15 other righteous that came after Adam,
01:17:18 they took care of the poor.
01:17:21 >> Yeah. But they also couple it with this
01:17:24 idea that there cannot be any rich if
01:17:26 there are no poor.
01:17:28 >> Yeah. So, uh that’s not true.
01:17:32 Um but I
01:17:35 some translations of scriptures even say
01:17:37 that now because
01:17:41 there has to be rich to give to the
01:17:43 poor. It’s the idea is that you’re not
01:17:47 extravagantly rich or you’re not
01:17:50 focusing on your riches.
01:17:53 Um and because you’re not focusing on
01:17:56 your riches, you’re giving to the poor.
01:17:58 Hence, sell what you have and give to
01:18:00 the poor.
01:18:01 >> Yes,
01:18:02 >> it’s talking. Yeshua was telling the
01:18:05 rich man to do his tithing properly.
01:18:08 Okay.
01:18:09 >> I didn’t know that they were using per
01:18:12 historical meaning to just say pay, you
01:18:15 know, give to the poor.
01:18:18 >> Yeah.
01:18:19 >> Yeah. This is it.
01:18:21 >> And there’s nothing wrong with giving to
01:18:23 the poor. And there’s nothing wrong with
01:18:25 there being no poor among them. This is
01:18:29 >> well this is a characteristic of Zion.
01:18:32 >> Yeah. Well, okay. So, we got to be
01:18:33 careful with this because Yeshua said
01:18:35 there will always be poor among us. So,
01:18:38 we we can’t take the statements too far.
01:18:40 There there are going to be people who
01:18:43 always are going to need tithing,
01:18:45 >> right? But the point is poor. When
01:18:49 they’re talking about poor, I think
01:18:50 they’re talking about the quality of
01:18:52 wanting.
01:18:54 >> Yeah. So, it’s the fact that the poor
01:18:56 are being taken care of. Okay.
01:18:58 >> Yeah.
01:18:59 >> Um and the rich aren’t
01:19:02 being greedy. Okay.
01:19:05 >> Right.
01:19:06 >> That means no.
01:19:07 >> The rich are not the rich are not
01:19:08 looking upon the poor with an evil eye.
01:19:11 >> Correct. And it just You want to define
01:19:13 evil eye, Vin, or do you want me to?
01:19:15 >> Okay. So in the Hebrew mind in the in
01:19:18 the Hebrew word that comes that is
01:19:21 translated to us in the New Testament.
01:19:23 The Hebrew word patterns or the Greek
01:19:25 word patterns that translate in the New
01:19:27 Testament as the evil eye is actually
01:19:32 referring to stinginess.
01:19:34 >> Yes. Uh and it’s defined I always
01:19:38 forget. I get these two mixed up. I’m
01:19:40 pretty sure it’s the Psalms, but it
01:19:41 could be the Proverbs. But an evil eye
01:19:43 is a stingy eye,
01:19:45 >> right? So, and King Benjamin actually
01:19:49 talks about this. You know, um he if you
01:19:53 if when you see somebody in need, you
01:19:55 say his judgment is just, I will not
01:19:58 help him.
01:20:00 You’ve declared your own you’ve declared
01:20:03 your own guilt basically.
01:20:06 Um because
01:20:08 >> yeah, you’re being stingy there because
01:20:10 you’re coming up with an excuse not to
01:20:12 help them when you can.
01:20:14 >> So the facts of the matter are yes,
01:20:16 people contribute to their own misery
01:20:17 all the time, but that does not give us
01:20:20 the right to contribute to their misery.
01:20:22 >> So let’s not try to
01:20:23 >> Well, so one one of the things about the
01:20:28 uh baptismal covenant is to comfort
01:20:31 those in need of comfort. So if part of
01:20:34 their need of comfort is actual uh basic
01:20:37 needs
01:20:40 >> Yeah.
01:20:41 >> just telling them to put their chin up
01:20:44 is not going to help them out.
01:20:46 >> No. Yeah.
01:20:48 >> You need to comfort them with basic
01:20:49 needs.
01:20:51 >> Yeah.
01:20:51 >> And some wants, but that’s another
01:20:53 subject. But anyways,
01:20:55 >> and with and sorry, they’re saying no uh
01:21:00 no greediness. No greedy merchants, no
01:21:04 any of that.
01:21:05 >> Yeah. Yeah. The the the the Yes. That
01:21:08 which goes along with the no rich is
01:21:10 that it’s more no greed. But
01:21:12 >> yeah. So go ahead.
01:21:14 >> Anyways, go on. There was
01:21:16 >> there was no need to labor.
01:21:21 >> Okay.
01:21:22 >> Okay. Keep going.
01:21:23 >> All that man required was obtained by
01:21:27 the power of will. as in the the plants
01:21:33 uh bore bounteously. So you could just
01:21:36 basically your uh grocery store was
01:21:41 walking out your door and picking from
01:21:43 the plant,
01:21:45 >> right? So anything you wanted was right
01:21:47 there.
01:21:48 >> Yeah. For for your basic needs for the
01:21:51 most part, right?
01:21:53 >> That’s what it’s getting at. So yeah,
01:21:55 now the now when we look at that through
01:21:57 a Greek mindset, we get a different idea
01:21:59 entirely and suddenly we start manif
01:22:01 trying to manifest everything all over
01:22:03 the place and well that
01:22:06 it works but there’s a price with it.
01:22:09 >> Yeah. So that that’s where it kind of
01:22:10 gets to the mixture of the power of the
01:22:13 will. So that’s kind of how they get the
01:22:16 manifestation nowadays which is
01:22:18 completely of Satan. It doesn’t work. Uh
01:22:20 but here in the context of millennial or
01:22:24 the garden of Eden, you just walk
01:22:26 somewhere and it’s bound you. So you
01:22:28 just pick it because you want it. Your
01:22:30 will, your wallet.
01:22:31 >> Yeah.
01:22:32 >> Right there.
01:22:34 >> So if you don’t if you don’t add the
01:22:36 Greek twist to this, if you just take it
01:22:38 at face value, you can see what it’s
01:22:42 talking about.
01:22:43 >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Go on Johnny with the
01:22:47 chief.
01:22:48 >> The chief virtue
01:22:51 was was the abundant
01:22:56 of worldly desires.
01:22:59 >> Abandonment.
01:23:01 >> The chief
01:23:02 >> the abandonment.
01:23:03 >> The chief virtue was the abandonment of
01:23:07 worldly desires.
01:23:11 So here they’re claiming that uh people
01:23:14 didn’t have wants which that’s not true.
01:23:18 That’s just a lie.
01:23:19 >> So basically what this is t what this is
01:23:22 doing is it is associating
01:23:26 one of the primary virtues of Hinduism
01:23:28 with the golden age.
01:23:31 >> Yeah. And and Greeks are like this too
01:23:33 and gnostics. They think the things of
01:23:35 the world are evil and that’s not the
01:23:37 case.
01:23:38 >> Yeah. So it’s it’s not it it having
01:23:42 desires for having the
01:23:47 having desires for good things in life
01:23:50 is not evil.
01:23:52 >> No, in fact a lot of times that’s what
01:23:54 um helps create good because um you want
01:23:58 something you go work for it. In fact,
01:24:02 when we go to the description, the
01:24:05 commandments surrounding the feast of
01:24:07 tabernacles,
01:24:09 there is something that tells you to if
01:24:13 you can’t bring everything that you
01:24:15 need, sell it. Bring the money and buy
01:24:19 whatever your heart desires so that you
01:24:22 can feast with joy with Yahweh.
01:24:26 >> And I’ll just tell you that’s part of
01:24:27 tithing.
01:24:29 part of your tithing should go towards
01:24:31 the high holidays and that’s scriptural.
01:24:33 Um but anyways now on what I can to make
01:24:38 this a good thing here which could have
01:24:41 been originally based off of that they
01:24:43 twisted the cheese virtue was the
01:24:45 abandonment of the natural man desires
01:24:50 >> right
01:24:51 >> which goes along can go about worldly I
01:24:53 can see that twist there right um but
01:24:57 the way that the worldly people will use
01:25:00 it or especially the gnostics will that
01:25:02 you don’t desire desire anything of the
01:25:04 world,
01:25:05 >> but that’s not it’s the natural man.
01:25:11 >> So, I I can definitely see that twist.
01:25:13 I’m sure with this being from the
01:25:14 Hindus, that’s not what they meant, but
01:25:17 I do believe that’s where it came from,
01:25:20 >> right?
01:25:20 >> They didn’t mean for to say that. It
01:25:23 just happened to
01:25:24 >> No, they meant
01:25:25 >> Well, they twisted it, Johnny. I say
01:25:27 what they said. They twisted it
01:25:28 intentionally.
01:25:29 >> Oh, they twisted it intentionally. They
01:25:31 >> twisted it.
01:25:32 >> Yeah.
01:25:33 Go on.
01:25:34 >> It was originally a truth, but they
01:25:35 twisted it.
01:25:36 >> Yeah,
01:25:37 >> correct.
01:25:40 >> The keta yoga was without disease.
01:25:45 >> The keta yoga that is referring to the
01:25:48 body. Body is without disease.
01:25:51 which goes along what we’ve talked about
01:25:54 um
01:25:56 uh about the prophecies of the
01:25:57 millennium because of the electrical
01:26:00 environment that the polar configuration
01:26:03 will cause right which science shows
01:26:06 and even modern medical practice when
01:26:11 when you get special permission or
01:26:13 you’ve gone through other ways first.
01:26:16 So anyways,
01:26:19 okay. There was
01:26:20 >> there was no listening with the years.
01:26:24 >> Lessening meaning uh you live to an age
01:26:28 of a tree.
01:26:30 >> Yep. There was no lessening of the
01:26:32 years.
01:26:32 >> There was no lessening with the years.
01:26:38 There was no hatred
01:26:40 or vanity or evil
01:26:45 thought
01:26:47 whatsoever.
01:26:49 No sorrow, no fear. Now I I I mean on
01:26:55 I I I don’t know the Hindus well enough,
01:26:58 but I can definitely see how this goes
01:27:00 along with the prophecies of the
01:27:01 millennium and keeping Torah. Right.
01:27:04 >> Yeah. Now, due to the due to its Hindu
01:27:08 aesthetic, it’s going to be heavily
01:27:10 based on the sins being what’s going on
01:27:13 in your mind as opposed to what you’re
01:27:16 actually doing.
01:27:18 >> Sure.
01:27:19 >> Yeah. So, I could definitely see how
01:27:21 there’s a twist going on on
01:27:23 >> Yeah.
01:27:24 >> But so far, uh, these quotes are all
01:27:27 describing the golden age either from a
01:27:30 Babylon idea or and which are a twist of
01:27:35 the Hebrew scriptural Yahweh way of
01:27:38 describing it. Right.
01:27:40 >> Absolutely. which also points back to
01:27:43 the first millennium which was actually
01:27:45 a quote in the previous uh quote right
01:27:50 so
01:27:50 >> I think the Hindu thing was kind of more
01:27:53 close to scripture than the rest of them
01:27:57 no it’s it got its own problems
01:28:01 >> they all have their own twist yeah
01:28:05 >> oops I hit the wrong
01:28:06 >> I actually find Herod Heraldotos’s one
01:28:09 to be
01:28:11 uh the least offensive
01:28:15 the first one we read.
01:28:17 >> Well, they all have their pros and cons.
01:28:19 I I I I I haven’t had time to think
01:28:22 about which one’s worse or better. So,
01:28:24 anyways, uh okay. So, read the myths of
01:28:28 China and Japan, the first one on the
01:28:31 next page.
01:28:32 >> Don’t don’t bother reading the
01:28:34 introductory sentence. Just get into the
01:28:36 quote. And this quote was made in 400
01:28:40 BC. The 400 years before Christ.
01:28:43 >> It was written 400 years. Yeah. Go on.
01:28:47 >> In in the age of perfect virtue
01:28:52 there attached no value to wisdom.
01:28:57 >> Okay. So I mean that’s weird. But the
01:29:00 age of perfect virtue. Virtue is Torah.
01:29:03 So this is pointing back to the golden
01:29:04 age, right?
01:29:08 Uh and and so maybe people because
01:29:11 everybody’s nice, no one had to worry
01:29:14 about I I don’t know about to do with
01:29:16 that last part.
01:29:18 >> That you have to bear in mind is uh the
01:29:22 eastern propensity for no thought.
01:29:26 >> Uh okay. Yeah. Yeah, that’s true.
01:29:28 Because they’re trying to empty their
01:29:30 mind, right? That’s that’s a good point
01:29:32 there. So they think that’s a good thing
01:29:35 where Yahweh actually says that’s bad.
01:29:38 So but that could be their twist of
01:29:40 trying to get rid of thought. I can see
01:29:43 that Ben. Thank you.
01:29:47 >> Okay. Go ahead.
01:29:49 >> Yes. They were upright and correct
01:29:53 without knowing that it that to be so
01:29:58 was righteousness.
01:30:00 >> Okay. So they’re just saying you do it
01:30:02 that will and that’s righteousness right
01:30:05 there, which is wrong. But that goes
01:30:07 along with mystery of Babylon. Right.
01:30:09 >> Right. But at the same time, if you’re
01:30:12 thinking about this in terms of the
01:30:14 Garden of Eden, did they know that what
01:30:17 they were doing in the garden was
01:30:19 righteousness or did they not
01:30:21 necessarily know?
01:30:24 >> Yeah, they knew.
01:30:26 >> Right. Okay.
01:30:28 Adam and Eve both knew it was wrong.
01:30:31 >> Yeah.
01:30:32 >> And uh Eve actually said, “I was
01:30:35 deceived.” She knew it was wrong.
01:30:37 >> So yeah. So there you go. I was trying
01:30:40 to give him the benefit of the doubt.
01:30:43 >> Well, and
01:30:45 just to get a little more, I’ll say one
01:30:47 other point real quick. Um,
01:30:50 she knew that Yahweh told Adam what what
01:30:55 we’re supposed to do and Adam repeated
01:30:57 it to her because even Satan’s
01:31:00 statements goes along with this. Did
01:31:02 Yahweh
01:31:04 did he really say that meaning bringing
01:31:07 out how she was taught this? Okay.
01:31:09 >> Right.
01:31:10 >> She just decided knowing showing she
01:31:13 knew what was right and wrong. She just
01:31:15 chose not to keep what was right. Okay.
01:31:19 >> So once again, so we see here the total
01:31:23 error of this idea of thoughtlessness.
01:31:26 >> Yeah.
01:31:29 >> Okay. Go on, Johnny.
01:31:31 >> They loved one another without knowing
01:31:34 that to do so was banana violence.
01:31:39 >> Benevolence.
01:31:41 >> Benevolence.
01:31:41 >> Benevolence.
01:31:42 >> Benevolence.
01:31:44 They were on it.
01:31:45 >> Wait, wait, Johnny. I think your dad
01:31:47 asked a question.
01:31:48 >> Well, the main thing is here once again,
01:31:54 if you take off all of these paragraph
01:31:58 in all these sentences, if you take off
01:32:00 the part of without knowing,
01:32:03 you’re describing an ideal society, a
01:32:06 Torx society.
01:32:09 >> I Oh, yeah. Without the know. Yes. If
01:32:11 you take that one part because
01:32:14 >> part without knowing. Yeah.
01:32:16 >> By the way, that’s just not possible
01:32:18 unless you’ve had a frontal labbotomy.
01:32:21 >> Well, yeah. Well, this somewhat goes
01:32:25 along with how those without knowledge
01:32:27 are condemned from Hosea, right? But,
01:32:32 >> uh, they’re they’re trying to bring out
01:32:34 how you are able to love people without
01:32:37 knowing how to love them,
01:32:40 >> which I that’s not possible.
01:32:43 >> Yeah.
01:32:44 or unless your memory just clicked all.
01:32:47 >> So, so there so what this does is it
01:32:51 creates this wonderfully beautiful
01:32:53 picture of virtue and makes it utterly
01:32:55 unattainable.
01:32:57 >> Well, yeah, because you don’t know what
01:32:59 it is and they just think that people
01:33:01 are going to
01:33:03 randomly come upon it and that’s not the
01:33:06 case. But that does go with the
01:33:08 evolution that gets taught mainstream.
01:33:10 It’s just random. No, there there’s
01:33:13 thought and intention that caused the
01:33:16 earth. And even scientists um are coming
01:33:21 out more and more of saying this. Um
01:33:23 it’s just a lot don’t cuz they’re scared
01:33:25 of losing their career. They shouldn’t
01:33:27 be, but they are. Okay. But there’s more
01:33:30 and more coming out showing no. Even
01:33:33 science on the low levels shows that
01:33:35 there is intention and design.
01:33:39 >> Yes. Yes. And if they if more people
01:33:44 would come out and acknowledge that
01:33:47 there should there would not be a fear
01:33:49 of scientists losing their job for
01:33:51 saying what is true,
01:33:53 >> right? Uh but
01:33:56 um
01:33:58 science is more of a religion than
01:33:59 religion is. I’m just I’ll just leave it
01:34:01 at that.
01:34:02 >> Yeah.
01:34:03 >> It’s not longer science. It’s scientism.
01:34:06 >> Yes. They they have agendas that they
01:34:09 push and like I said earlier it it has
01:34:13 deal more with Cabala actually and
01:34:16 mysticism but anyways moving on. So
01:34:20 Johnny they were honest.
01:34:22 >> Yeah they were honest. Yeah.
01:34:23 >> They were honest and
01:34:26 low
01:34:28 lowlyarted
01:34:33 without knowing.
01:34:35 No, wait, wait.
01:34:37 >> I wonder if that’s a typo. It’s supposed
01:34:38 to be levelheaded
01:34:40 >> and levelheaded.
01:34:42 >> Levelarted because I don’t know what
01:34:45 legal is to be honest.
01:34:47 >> Yeah. Moving on.
01:34:50 >> Without uh without knowing, and we’re
01:34:53 going to leave that out, that it was
01:34:57 loyalty.
01:34:58 >> Yeah. You can’t be loyal without knowing
01:35:00 you’re being loyal. I’m sorry.
01:35:02 >> Right. You just can’t do it. Yeah, being
01:35:05 loyal is making a dis
01:35:09 choice.
01:35:11 >> Once again, they’re creating this virtue
01:35:14 and making it utterly impossible to
01:35:16 attain.
01:35:17 >> Well, and this is they’re trying to make
01:35:19 mystery Babylon look good, right? Is
01:35:22 what I see so far in my opinion.
01:35:24 >> Well, to me, it seems like they’re
01:35:26 trying to make a brainless stuper look
01:35:28 good.
01:35:30 >> Well, and I think that’s what Mystery
01:35:32 Babylon is. But anyway, Anyways,
01:35:37 moving on.
01:35:42 >> Fine. Read.
01:35:44 >> Read.
01:35:45 >> They fulfilled. Wait, wait, wait.
01:35:48 >> Yeah, you’re right there. You go ahead.
01:35:50 >> Yeah, I’m fine. They fulfilled their
01:35:54 arrangements.
01:35:56 >> No engagements.
01:35:58 >> No, keep reading. without knowing that
01:36:01 to do so was good faith.
01:36:06 >> I
01:36:08 Yeah. Okay. Well, first of all is to if
01:36:10 faith is trust and diligence. Trusting
01:36:14 means you know it. Diligence means
01:36:15 you’re doing it on purpose despite what
01:36:18 you’re being proed to do otherwise.
01:36:21 >> How can you do that without knowing?
01:36:25 What the heck?
01:36:25 >> Yeah. Th this is
01:36:30 I I I I don’t know what to make of that.
01:36:33 It’s just salad soup, I guess. I mean,
01:36:37 word salad.
01:36:38 >> They’re basically going they’re
01:36:40 basically enshrining their Shinto
01:36:42 Buddhist values into the Golden Age.
01:36:46 >> Yeah, I can see that. Yeah,
01:36:48 >> that’s what’s going on. Shinto Buddhist
01:36:50 values being enshrined into the Golden
01:36:52 Age. And whoever brought that up should
01:36:54 have been shot in the face outside the
01:36:57 city.
01:36:57 >> Okay, that’s
01:36:59 >> that’s a little much there, Johnny. They
01:37:02 there’s um first of all, they’d have to
01:37:05 get judged by a Torah court judge, but
01:37:08 anyways, we won’t get into that. Okay.
01:37:10 >> And then I don’t think that shooting
01:37:12 them in the face is a part of is
01:37:14 prescribed in Torah. OH.
01:37:20 >> OH, WELL, that actually might be uh
01:37:23 nicer than what Torah approved. But
01:37:26 anyways, let’s move on.
01:37:29 >> Anyway, Johnny. Anyway, Johnny, let’s
01:37:31 go.
01:37:32 >> So, just on that point, I will say
01:37:34 stoning is patterned off of the uh wrath
01:37:38 judgment. Okay. And I’ll just leave it
01:37:41 at that. So, moving on.
01:37:46 In their simple move movements, they
01:37:50 employed the services of one another and
01:37:54 again without
01:37:57 thinking that they were confirming or
01:38:02 receiving a gift.
01:38:04 >> Conferring which is uh giving.
01:38:07 >> Yeah. So moving on. So anyways, here’s a
01:38:11 lot of this uh pretending you can do
01:38:13 things without knowing that you’re doing
01:38:15 them. Right.
01:38:17 >> Right. Without knowing your pretending
01:38:19 you can do things without knowing your
01:38:21 intention.
01:38:22 >> Yeah. That that’s I I
01:38:26 I’ll go with Ben because Ben has studied
01:38:29 their uh religion more than I have. I
01:38:33 this that just makes no sense. But
01:38:35 anyways, but they are trying to describe
01:38:37 a golden age twistedly, right? But
01:38:41 anyway,
01:38:41 >> describe a golden age within your
01:38:45 particular religious philosophy.
01:38:49 This is how you would do it if you were
01:38:50 a Shinto Buddhist.
01:38:52 >> Okay, that that’s a very good way of
01:38:53 putting it, Ben. Thank you.
01:38:56 Okay. Therefore,
01:38:58 >> therefore, their actions left no trace
01:39:03 and there was no record of their
01:39:07 affairs.
01:39:11 So, no records of the judgments because
01:39:13 no judgments were happening. Okay? Cuz
01:39:15 the in in the court and in in
01:39:18 government, you only make records of
01:39:19 things that you have to deal with, which
01:39:21 are when there’s wrongs going on. So
01:39:24 they’re claiming that mystery Babylon,
01:39:27 the golden age that they’re to try and
01:39:29 describe here, has no wrongs going on.
01:39:32 But when when the laws do it thou wilt,
01:39:34 hold the law with the fine print and uh
01:39:38 as long as you’re following what your
01:39:39 leader is telling you to do, you’re
01:39:40 okay.
01:39:42 >> Right?
01:39:44 >> So uh now in the Zion mindset is this
01:39:47 would happen because we’re keeping Torah
01:39:50 in this no reason to go to a judge,
01:39:53 right? But this is a twist of that.
01:39:56 >> So keep going.
01:39:58 >> So we can go ahead and read 21 and then
01:40:01 you’ll have to go into 22 on your own
01:40:03 because I don’t have that. But go ahead
01:40:05 and read that part starting at the
01:40:07 bottom
01:40:10 which this leads into the quote of DNC
01:40:13 uh doctrine section one
01:40:17 101.
01:40:20 >> Okay. Well, we’ll get there. First read
01:40:22 the start of the quote because
01:40:23 >> the start of the quote
01:40:25 >> in that day
01:40:26 >> and in that day the emity of men uh uh
01:40:30 the emity of man and the emity of beasts
01:40:34 yay the emity of all flesh shall cease
01:40:37 from before my face. So this is waring.
01:40:42 Emity has to do with hate and war. Okay.
01:40:45 >> Yeah.
01:40:47 Uh so this goes along with the prophecy
01:40:50 that the weapons will be made into
01:40:55 farm implements, right?
01:40:57 >> Yes.
01:40:59 >> Uh also how the lion and the lamb will
01:41:03 go together. Now that’s a twisted
01:41:05 understanding which we won’t get into
01:41:08 but anyways.
01:41:10 And before my face. Um I I don’t Is this
01:41:15 Where’s this from, Johnny?
01:41:17 >> This is doctrine incarnation. Uh
01:41:20 >> oh, okay. So yeah, this is the positive.
01:41:23 So this is Yeah. No, no more war
01:41:27 and animals not fighting with each
01:41:30 other, right? So
01:41:32 >> yeah, the the the uh the creature is not
01:41:36 the creature is not fighting.
01:41:38 >> Yeah. And before my face is be Yahweh’s
01:41:41 face.
01:41:42 >> Yes.
01:41:46 >> Okay. Read the next uh sentence.
01:41:48 >> Okay. Okay. And there shall be Wait a
01:41:54 minute. Let me get back to reverend
01:41:55 behavior.
01:41:57 Okay. Just get on. And there shall be no
01:42:02 sorrow because there is no death.
01:42:06 >> No. Okay. Now this is uh going to the
01:42:10 point where there everybody will live to
01:42:12 the age of a tree and specifically going
01:42:15 with the quote uh referring to Isaiah
01:42:18 that babies are not going to be dying.
01:42:20 Okay.
01:42:20 >> Okay. So I just want to point out the
01:42:23 difference between yud describing these
01:42:26 these things and the word salads that
01:42:29 were presented
01:42:31 by the learned men of the other
01:42:33 societies.
01:42:34 >> Oh yeah. Especially the mist of China
01:42:36 and Japan. That one was really word
01:42:38 silent.
01:42:43 >> When Gilas speaks, he makes it clear for
01:42:47 those who are not interested in simply
01:42:50 rebelling,
01:42:51 >> right? And then and and this last
01:42:54 sentence we just read really brings out
01:42:55 how sorrow happens because u people are
01:42:58 dying. Um although it’s hard when old
01:43:02 people die, it’s worse when young ones
01:43:06 die. In fact, it
01:43:09 for good men, good men would rather die
01:43:14 themselves to give little their children
01:43:17 life to experience. Okay. The the the
01:43:20 big sorrow comes when children die.
01:43:23 >> Yes.
01:43:24 Because um to return to Yahweh, we do
01:43:28 have to physically die. But let’s do it
01:43:30 in our old age, like the age of a tree.
01:43:32 Okay.
01:43:33 >> Yeah.
01:43:35 >> Oh, look. The next sentence even goes
01:43:37 along with this. Sorry, I didn’t I I
01:43:39 really didn’t look for it. Go ahead and
01:43:40 read the next one, Johnny. In that day
01:43:43 an an infant
01:43:46 shall not die until he is old and his
01:43:50 life shall be as the age of a tree.
01:43:54 >> So that uh sentence is expounding the
01:43:58 previous one which I just also just did.
01:44:00 But anyways, I really did look forward
01:44:05 >> this mockery over here.
01:44:08 >> Next one.
01:44:10 Keep going. and when he dies, he shall
01:44:15 not sleep. That is
01:44:18 >> okay. So, real quick, so this is going
01:44:20 along with um if you’re righteous enough
01:44:25 um because there will be tstal people
01:44:29 during this time and at the end of the
01:44:32 millennium, there will actually be sons
01:44:33 of preditions. But uh this is talking
01:44:37 about tstral and celestial uh glory who
01:44:41 will receive the
01:44:43 turstral and tstral glory they’ll be
01:44:46 resurrected in an instant. Okay.
01:44:49 >> Right. So the there is a common
01:44:52 misconception out there that there will
01:44:56 that there will only be especially among
01:44:59 the restoration branches that only
01:45:01 people of a certain life quality will be
01:45:04 alive during the millennium. I am sorry
01:45:08 you haven’t read your Bible. Well, the
01:45:11 fact that the it’s prophesied in
01:45:14 multiple places that the mighty and
01:45:15 strong one’s going to go doing
01:45:17 missionary work during the millennium
01:45:20 uh disproves that.
01:45:21 >> And but basically, I just want to say
01:45:24 I’m sorry you haven’t read your Bible
01:45:25 because it talks about in the Bible
01:45:28 during the millennium that there will be
01:45:30 people who do not come up to celebrate
01:45:32 the feast of tabernacles.
01:45:34 >> Yeah. And to be specific, that’s
01:45:36 Zechariah 14 showing they’re not keeping
01:45:40 they’re not being righteous and they
01:45:41 won’t get rain because they’re not being
01:45:43 righteous. Okay.
01:45:45 >> There are some Bible chapters if we want
01:45:47 to read them.
01:45:48 >> But no,
01:45:48 >> no, no, that’s fine.
01:45:49 >> I think I think we’re good reading from
01:45:51 the book for now.
01:45:52 >> Yeah. Yeah. So, go ahead and start. that
01:45:54 is
01:45:56 >> that is to say in the earth but shall be
01:46:02 changed in the twinkling of an eye.
01:46:05 >> Okay, there we go. So I I just that’s
01:46:07 just basically what I said, right?
01:46:10 >> And
01:46:13 it’s just amazing how clear it is.
01:46:16 >> Yeah.
01:46:17 >> And his rest shall be glorious.
01:46:22 >> Oh, I think you forgot. and shall be
01:46:23 caught up uh and
01:46:26 >> uh be cut off. And he shall be and shall
01:46:30 be cut off and
01:46:34 and his rest shall be glorious.
01:46:38 So rest that’s going to be the
01:46:41 sanctified ones living with Yahweh.
01:46:44 Hence celestial glory. Very glorious.
01:46:47 Okay. to the point that if you’re not
01:46:49 ready for it,
01:46:51 it’ll kill you.
01:46:53 >> Just like in that period before those
01:46:55 who are resurrected in the first
01:46:57 resurrection are resurrected, they are
01:47:00 assigned
01:47:02 to rest
01:47:05 until the resurrection as opposed to
01:47:07 those who are not righteous. They’re
01:47:10 assigned to a state of awful waiting.
01:47:14 >> Yes. Um so I I do believe those are the
01:47:17 quotes we want to look at. So this idea
01:47:21 of uh the garden of Eden and the first
01:47:25 millennium is throughout generations and
01:47:28 they use that memory to point to the
01:47:31 prophecies that they’ve twisted
01:47:34 of the golden coming age um which all
01:47:39 deal goes along with the prophecies in
01:47:42 the Hebrew scriptures about the
01:47:44 millennium
01:47:46 uh and the condition that the world uh
01:47:49 plants and people will be in because of
01:47:51 the polar configuration coming back and
01:47:55 the environment it causes primarily the
01:47:57 electrical environment
01:47:59 >> in particular
01:48:00 >> as a reward
01:48:02 for the righteousness of Zion
01:48:05 >> in in particular there’s Isaiah chapters
01:48:08 and and chapters in Revelation to talk a
01:48:10 little bit about talk a little bit about
01:48:12 this
01:48:13 >> yeah but I I think we those quotes are
01:48:16 probably good because I I there’s a lot
01:48:19 out there. I even have an unfinished
01:48:21 post I need to get back to that’s it
01:48:24 gets into a lot of those quotes and and
01:48:26 actually gives a lot of um references
01:48:28 for all this science that I’ve mentioned
01:48:31 that I I Anyways, I’ll have to try to
01:48:34 hurry and finish that post.
01:48:36 >> So, the main thing is is that this is th
01:48:40 this new heaven, this new earth, the
01:48:43 return of the polar configuration.
01:48:45 That’s what they’re talking about.
01:48:47 Yes. Uh it’s a mixture the return of
01:48:50 that and how it was in the Garden of
01:48:51 Eden with Adam in the first millennium,
01:48:53 right? It’s a mixture of those two
01:48:55 things.
01:48:56 >> Yeah. And it was during coming into the
01:48:58 second millennium. That’s when things
01:49:00 start to look like where they are right
01:49:02 now. Uh things are as they are right now
01:49:06 because we live in the days of
01:49:08 wickedness and vengeance.
01:49:10 >> Yeah. But that uh but along with that
01:49:12 Johnny um yeah the days of Noah was in
01:49:15 the second millennium that this time
01:49:18 gets referenced to it being like so
01:49:21 you’re right on that it’s the
01:49:23 >> days you’re in the second millennium.
01:49:26 >> Yeah. Anyways, I I do think that’s a
01:49:30 good reading of those secular quotes and
01:49:32 showing how they’re talking about things
01:49:36 that are prophetic from a slightly
01:49:38 different angle and pushing mystery
01:49:40 Babylon more than Zion, right?
01:49:43 >> Yes. Absolutely. I think
01:49:45 >> which they’re both are the golden or the
01:49:47 best of those two mindsets, right?
01:49:52 >> Yeah.
01:49:52 >> You could tell. And then I was laughing
01:49:54 when I continued to keep reading in the
01:49:58 Chinese one.
01:49:59 >> Well, it was the Chinese uh the Chinese
01:50:02 idea is
01:50:04 the Chinese idea is ludicrous.
01:50:08 >> Uh yes,
01:50:10 >> laughing there. It’s ludicrous.
01:50:11 >> Okay. Well, anyways, I’m gonna close
01:50:14 with that unless you guys want to say
01:50:16 something real quick.
01:50:17 >> I think that was I think that was a good
01:50:18 recording. Uh, I hope uh because uh
01:50:23 because the time is getting short, I
01:50:25 encourage people to repent and get right
01:50:27 with Yo because all of this stuff
01:50:29 regarding the polar configuration, you
01:50:32 can know it forwards and backwards. It
01:50:34 won’t do you a darn bit of good if
01:50:36 you’re not right with Yo.
01:50:37 >> Yeah. In fact, really the only one needs
01:50:39 to worry about is the mighty and strong
01:50:41 one. Uh because he’s going to call him
01:50:42 back
01:50:44 >> with his witchcraft without hands. is as
01:50:47 you go to Daniel 2, that’s actually what
01:50:49 it’s saying. Uh it’s because it’s the
01:50:51 priesthood. That’s why it’s witch
01:50:54 because witchcraft needs their little
01:50:55 hand signs. So anyways,
01:50:59 >> um
01:51:00 >> but uh so it’s good to know to help
01:51:05 understand what’s going on and being
01:51:07 described and how it will be uh happen,
01:51:10 the science behind it. But Ben’s right.
01:51:13 You what you really need to worry about
01:51:15 is coming under Yeshua’s covering and
01:51:19 returning to his Torah or in other words
01:51:21 repenting.
01:51:23 >> Yeah. Because and that’s the thing that
01:51:26 everybody needs to be concern needs to
01:51:28 be concerning themselves with. Get into
01:51:30 the word. Find out those things that
01:51:33 you’re not doing. Change your life.
01:51:36 >> Yeah. Now I I will say uh this is a good
01:51:40 book. Uh I am grateful for Anthony
01:51:44 Larson’s research and getting me to
01:51:47 start learning about the polar
01:51:49 configuration. I disagree with him at
01:51:51 times. Okay. But it is good research and
01:51:54 I still recommend getting his books
01:51:57 either you could probably only get them
01:51:59 e format now. uh and even taking his um
01:52:04 video courses, even with my
01:52:06 disagreements with them, though, they’re
01:52:08 still good. Okay? It’s a good base to
01:52:10 start with. And I appreciate the work
01:52:12 that he’s done that I’ve learned from to
01:52:16 get started on this subject. Okay? And I
01:52:19 would also encourage you to understand
01:52:22 that um one of the primary areas of
01:52:26 disagreement that I have that I that I
01:52:28 have with Anthony Larson is that he
01:52:30 thinks that the polar configuration is
01:52:33 all keys.
01:52:35 >> No,
01:52:37 >> it seems that way.
01:52:39 >> I have multiple disagreements. I’ll
01:52:40 leave it at that. We don’t have to get
01:52:42 into details.
01:52:44 >> There there’s good in what he’s done.
01:52:47 take it with a grain of salt and don’t
01:52:48 forget what the Book of Mormon
01:52:52 um and the DNC the valid sections teach
01:52:57 along with the new translation of the
01:52:59 Bible and the Bible right so
01:53:02 >> get into but most importantly get into
01:53:05 the word fix your life
01:53:07 >> yeah it it doesn’t matter how much you
01:53:10 know about the polar configuration if
01:53:11 you encounter Yahua’s Yeshua sorry
01:53:14 Yeshua’s covering and repented
01:53:18 um you’re going to suffer a thousand
01:53:19 years cuz even those who come under his
01:53:22 covering the tstrals and don’t repent
01:53:25 tstral glory you’re going to suffer for
01:53:28 a thousand years.
01:53:30 >> Oh
01:53:31 >> well I I I highly suggest coming under
01:53:34 his covering and repent. So anyways
01:53:38 cuz no matter what you know about the
01:53:39 polar configuration if you’re not
01:53:41 repenting you’re not the one that’s
01:53:42 bringing it back. And guess what? You’re
01:53:45 still you’re going to suffer from it
01:53:47 while it’s coming back and then when you
01:53:48 die and you’re then you’re going to
01:53:50 suffer for a thousand years after you
01:53:52 die. So repent. Sorry, but not sorry.
01:53:57 >> Repent for no other reason than to avoid
01:53:59 suffering.
01:54:00 >> Yeah. Be selfish about it. At least
01:54:03 initially. Don’t stay that way. But it’s
01:54:06 better than not.
01:54:08 >> Right.
01:54:09 >> Anyways, uh we say this name of Yeshua
01:54:12 Messiah. Amen. That’s a funny one to say
01:54:14 that on.