Here are the verses in Alma 13 people like to use, but they never like to talk about the word FOREKNOWLEDGE and what it means.
Alma 13:3 And this is the manner after which they were ordained—being called and prepared from the foundation of the world according to the FOREKNOWLEDGE of God, on account of their exceeding faith and good works; in the first place being left to choose good or evil; therefore they having chosen good, and exercising exceedingly great faith, are called with a holy calling, yea, with that holy calling which was prepared with, and according to, a preparatory redemption for such.
Alma 13:7 This high priesthood being after the order of his Son, which order was from the foundation of the world; or in other words, being without beginning of days or end of years, being prepared from eternity to all eternity, according to his FOREKNOWLEDGE of all things—
Here is what Noah Webster dictionary says the definition of foreknowledge is:
FOREKNOWL’EDGE, noun Knowledge of a thing before it happens; prescience.
If I foreknew, foreknowledge had no influence on their fault.
In preparing for reading Alma 13 again for this discussion, I read Alma 12 to get more context. And here are some scriptures from it that I believe apply.
Alma 12:8 And Zeezrom began to inquire of them diligently, that he might know more concerning the kingdom of God. And he said unto Alma: What does this mean which Amulek hath spoken concerning the resurrection of the dead, that all shall rise from the dead, both the just and the unjust, and are brought to stand before God to be judged according to their works?
Alma 12:18 Then, I say unto you, they shall be as though there had been no redemption made; for they cannot be redeemed according to God’s justice; and they cannot die, seeing there is no more corruption.
Alma 12:20 But there was one Antionah, who was a chief ruler among them, came forth and said unto him: What is this that thou hast said, that man should rise from the dead and be changed from this mortal to an immortal state, that the soul can never die?
Alma 12: 24 And we see that death comes upon mankind, yea, the death which has been spoken of by Amulek, which is the temporal death; nevertheless there was a space granted unto man in which he might repent; therefore this life became a probationary state; a time to prepare to meet God; a time to prepare for that endless state which has been spoken of by us, which is after the resurrection of the dead.
Alma 12: 32 Therefore God gave unto them commandments, after having made known unto them the plan of redemption, that they should not do evil, the penalty thereof being a second death, which was an everlasting death as to things pertaining unto righteousness; for on such the plan of redemption could have no power, for the works of justice could not be destroyed, according to the supreme goodness of God.
To get more context for Alma 12, I reread Alma 11, and here are verses that are relevant.
Alma 11:41 Therefore the wicked remain as though there had been no redemption made, except it be the loosing of the bands of death; for behold, the day cometh that all shall rise from the dead and stand before God, and be judged according to their works.
Alma 11:42 Now, there is a death which is called a temporal death; and the death of Christ shall loose the bands of this temporal death, that all shall be raised from this temporal death.
Alma 11:43 The spirit and the body shall be reunited again in its perfect form; both limb and joint shall be restored to its proper frame, even as we now are at this time; and we shall be brought to stand before God, knowing even as we know now, and have a bright recollection of all our guilt.
Alma 11:44 Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous; and even there shall not so much as a hair of their heads be lost; but every thing shall be restored to its perfect frame, as it is now, or in the body, and shall be brought and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil.
Alma 11:45 Now, behold, I have spoken unto you concerning the death of the mortal body, and also concerning the resurrection of the mortal body. I say unto you that this mortal body is raised to an immortal body, that is from death, even from the first death unto life, THAT THEY CAN DIE NO MORE; their spirits uniting with their bodies, NEVER TO BE DIVIDED; thus the whole becoming spiritual and immortal, that they can no more see corruption.
Here is a blog post I did about Alma 11:45 a while back ago regarding what corruption means, and I believe it relates to what we are talking about. Alma 11:45 Corruption
Now lets look at Alma 40 some.
Alma 40:4 Behold, there is a time appointed that all shall come forth from the dead. Now when THIS time cometh no one knows; but God knoweth THE time which is appointed.
Alma 40:5 Now, whether there shall be one time, or a second time, or a third time, that men shall come forth from the dead, it mattereth not; for God knoweth all these things; and it sufficeth me to know that this is the case—that there is a time appointed that all shall rise from the dead.
Alma 40:6 Now there must needs be a space BETWIXT THE TIME OF DEATH AND THE TIME OF THE RESURRECTION.
Alma 40:7 And now I would inquire what becometh of the souls of men FROM THIS TIME OF DEATH TO THE TIME APPOINTED FOR THE RESURRECTION?
Here is more context for 4 & 5
Alma 40:8 Now whether there is more than one time appointed for men to rise it mattereth not; FOR ALL DO NOT DIE AT ONCE, and this mattereth not; all is as one day with God, and time only is measured unto men.
Alma 40:9 Therefore, there is a time appointed unto men that they shall rise from the dead; and there is a space BETWEEN THE TIME OF DEATH AND THE RESSURECTION. And now, concerning this space of time, what becometh of the souls of men is the thing which I have inquired diligently of the Lord to know; and this is the thing of which I do know.
Alma 40:10 And when the time cometh when ALL shall rise, then shall they know that God knoweth all the times which are appointed unto man.
Alma 40:11 Now, concerning the state of the soul BETWEEN DEATH AND THE RESURRECTION—Behold, it has been made known unto me by an angel, that the spirits of all men, as soon as they are departed from this mortal body, yea, the spirits of all men, whether they be good or evil, are taken home to that God who gave them life.
Alma 40:12 And THEN shall it come to pass, that the spirits of those who are righteous are received into a state of happiness, which is called paradise, a state of rest, a state of peace, where they shall rest from all their troubles and from all care, and sorrow.
Alma 40:13 And THEN shall it come to pass, that the spirits of the wicked, yea, who are evil—for behold, they have no part nor portion of the Spirit of the Lord; for behold, they chose evil works rather than good; therefore the spirit of the devil did enter into them, and take possession of their house—and these shall be cast out into outer darkness; there shall be weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth, and this because of their own iniquity, being led captive by the will of the devil.
Alma 40:14 Now this is the state of the souls of the wicked, yea, in darkness, and a state of awful, fearful looking for the fiery indignation of the wrath of God upon them; THUS THEY REMAIN IN THIS STATE, as well as the righteous in paradise, UNTIL THE TIME OF THEIR RESURRECTION.
Alma 40:18 Behold, I say unto you, Nay; but it meaneth the reuniting of the soul with the body, of those from the days of Adam down to the resurrection of Christ.
Alma 40:19 Now, whether the souls and the bodies of those of whom has been spoken shall all be reunited at once, the wicked as well as the righteous, I do not say; let it suffice, that I say that they all come forth; or in other words, their resurrection cometh to pass before the resurrection of those who die after the resurrection of Christ.
Alma 40:21 But whether it be at his resurrection or after, I do not say; but this much I say, that there is a space BETWEEN DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF THE BODY, and a state of the soul in happiness or in misery until the time which is appointed of God that the dead shall come forth, and be reunited, both soul and body, and be brought to stand before God, and be judged according to their works.
Alma 40:23 The soul shall be restored to the body, and the body to the soul; yea, and every limb and joint shall be restored to its body; yea, even a hair of the head shall not be lost; but all things shall be restored to their proper and perfect frame.
Also here is an interesting phrase from 3 Nephi 28:35, it’s pretty strong along with the idea this is the life to prepare to meet God.
3 Nephi 28: 35 And it would be better for them if they had not been born. For do ye suppose that ye can get rid of the justice of an offended God, who hath been trampled under feet of men, that thereby salvation might come?
This is just a start. But I see all these as strong witness against MMP. If you get another chance later, why would it be said better to have not been born?