Scripture Study 2020-11-22

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Talk about some of what I see in the movie Beauty and the Beast. Some on the Word of Wisdom, how mild means liquor, how bread is alcoholic, how LDS leaders used to teach no hot soup. Talk about buying and selling in the Book of Revelation. Talked about the women caught in adultery.

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00:00:00 [Music]
00:00:01 so one thing
00:00:03 just on the prayers you know
00:00:07 what does the book of mormon tell us who
00:00:09 the eternal father is
00:00:24 well uh i know ether ether four
00:00:27 uh references uh jesus is being the uh
00:00:34 eternal father i can’t remember that’s
00:00:36 one place uh mosiah
00:00:38 15 i think is another one so multiple
00:00:40 places we’re on the same page
00:00:42 eternal father is yeshua
00:00:46 we just prayed to yeshua
00:00:54 so here’s another one for you just to
00:00:57 think about
00:00:58 let me
00:01:01 i’ll share my screen because there’s a
00:01:02 couple but i’ll just share my favorite
00:01:04 one
00:01:10 so here’s my favorite one so
00:01:13 you know this is uh during the time
00:01:16 christ visited
00:01:17 the nephites right after his
00:01:19 resurrection 35-19
00:01:24 and behold they began to pray the
00:01:26 apostles that he just called
00:01:28 in 35 11 and they did pray unto
00:01:32 jesus or yeshua as i like to say it
00:01:34 calling him their
00:01:36 lord which is yahweh in hebrew
00:01:39 and their god which is elohim in hebrew
00:01:46 i believe yeshua is the father as
00:01:49 mosaic 15 states and
00:01:53 anyways i see all the work of mormon
00:01:57 now that we’re getting to the christmas
00:01:59 season that’s
00:02:00 um verse in
00:02:04 you know isaiah that handles messiah
00:02:06 sings
00:02:08 you know for unto us the son is given
00:02:10 and the
00:02:11 government shall be upon his shoulders
00:02:13 and his name shall be called
00:02:15 wonderful counselor the mighty god the
00:02:17 everlasting father
00:02:20 also a good point
00:02:23 there there’s one another one in isaiah
00:02:26 that goes along with this
00:02:27 is how i don’t know the verse we can
00:02:29 find it if you want but
00:02:30 you know isaiah we’re told that god
00:02:33 himself
00:02:34 shall atone for the sins of the world
00:02:36 god
00:02:37 himself
00:02:42 but that’s a good one from handel’s
00:02:43 messiah
00:02:46 which is just basically isaiah right he
00:02:49 put the song sure yeah that’s
00:02:52 yeah that is a direct quote from isaiah
00:02:54 i don’t know the chapter and verse off
00:02:55 the top of my head
00:02:57 that’s fine um i i’m somewhat familiar
00:03:00 with that
00:03:01 i i don’t know isaiah as well as i do
00:03:03 the book of mormon and
00:03:05 you know the more i study the less i can
00:03:07 keep in my head and just the more i have
00:03:08 in my notes i have
00:03:10 in my one note so you know the concept
00:03:13 and then i i know my keyword i put on
00:03:15 her and i go to my
00:03:16 keyword and i go get the verse i want i
00:03:20 there’s some i still have in my head but
00:03:22 the more you get the harder that gets to
00:03:24 be
00:03:25 yeah how did people do it before
00:03:27 computers
00:03:28 uh three by five cards and card files is
00:03:32 about the only way i could think to do
00:03:33 it well
00:03:34 so the jews specifically they
00:03:38 they memorized they started memorizing
00:03:41 when they were a kid instead of watching
00:03:43 tv
00:03:45 the kids were memorizing scriptures so
00:03:47 it’s doable
00:03:48 um it’s a different culture though
00:03:52 um i i haven’t give up
00:03:56 videos i i’m weary of hollywood ones
00:04:00 i still watch some but i also know
00:04:04 that they twist the gospel and make good
00:04:07 evil and evil good in
00:04:08 tons of cases all over the place in fact
00:04:11 one
00:04:12 i want to do a post on it’s a priority
00:04:15 for me to do is uh
00:04:17 beauty and the beast the last time i
00:04:20 watched it with my
00:04:21 wife because she wanted to or my son
00:04:23 wanted to i can’t remember
00:04:24 anyways i got some
00:04:28 insight into it it is all about
00:04:31 satan and his point by point
00:04:35 and i oh wow i’m happy to go over some
00:04:37 of those even now if you want it’s a
00:04:39 little
00:04:40 tricky but um
00:04:43 i’d be interested let’s see i have it
00:04:48 let’s see what we can do hold on if you
00:04:51 want to do that
00:04:52 um so i have it on my computer
00:04:56 i i don’t want to play it i don’t know
00:04:58 if that will go well so maybe i can um
00:05:02 stop it occasionally or something let’s
00:05:03 see what we can do
00:05:05 since i brought it up um
00:05:08 oh there we go um
00:05:12 so i’m gonna do the new one it just
00:05:13 looks nicer but the new one
00:05:15 is pretty much a replica of the old one
00:05:18 um so that doesn’t matter
00:05:19 too much um all right
00:05:23 so oh is that the is that the live
00:05:26 did they do like a live action of it is
00:05:28 that what it is
00:05:29 no the disney beauty and the beast the
00:05:31 disney one oh the cartoon
00:05:33 yeah 2017.
00:05:37 um i’ll get you so
00:05:41 uh
00:05:47 so the rose i haven’t gotten uh let’s
00:05:50 turn off the spanish subtitles
00:05:52 you guys probably don’t want that i
00:05:54 haven’t completely figured out the rose
00:05:56 yet
00:05:57 but the one thing that’s interesting
00:05:58 with the rose right
00:06:00 is it’s a timer
00:06:03 pan pan is do you guys know what pan is
00:06:07 who pan is uh the goat the
00:06:11 god but who who is pan
00:06:15 oh pan is i i mean that’s that’s one of
00:06:18 the older
00:06:19 i mean that’s that’s the grease yeah
00:06:23 all just break simply it’s safe right
00:06:25 the beast
00:06:26 and the horns i
00:06:30 i don’t know if you two know anything
00:06:31 about polar configuration but the horns
00:06:33 come from the polar configuration
00:06:35 and this evil god um
00:06:39 but there’s reasons behind it anyways
00:06:42 and this
00:06:43 this dark kingdom the castles have to do
00:06:46 with kingdoms but
00:06:47 so back to the rose satan
00:06:50 has a limited time on earth the rose
00:06:54 in beauty and the beast what is it it’s
00:06:57 a timer showing he has so much time to
00:07:00 change
00:07:01 to get someone to love him because he
00:07:03 knows he has a time limit
00:07:06 right now i don’t completely know why
00:07:09 it’s a rose yet and this is one thing
00:07:11 before while i go
00:07:13 digging some details when i do the post
00:07:14 i’m going to look into but
00:07:16 one thing i do know some about catholics
00:07:18 who
00:07:19 is the sorry um
00:07:23 what are they always wearing the rosary
00:07:27 yeah which if you get the best rosary
00:07:29 you know what it’s made out of
00:07:30 roses there’s something to the rose in
00:07:33 the catholic church i don’t completely
00:07:35 understand it yet
00:07:37 and the occult actually also okay so you
00:07:40 think the catholic church
00:07:41 is the rather than corrupt
00:07:43 christianity as a whole
00:07:46 um uh probably i should more
00:07:49 properly put the papacy than the
00:07:52 catholic church but i
00:07:54 i think the catholic church is the
00:07:56 papacy because they have followers
00:07:58 but um so basically yes
00:08:02 um okay well this this current pope is
00:08:05 definitely an antichrist
00:08:07 uh yeah it’s on that point you know the
00:08:10 previous pope said
00:08:11 anyone who says uh being gay or lesbian
00:08:15 lbgt is okay is going to be the
00:08:17 antichrist and
00:08:19 what just happened recently right wow
00:08:23 um anyways so i’ll give you a video
00:08:26 that i think is really good it’s done
00:08:29 one more question
00:08:31 stephen uh okay we’ve discussed who the
00:08:34 is
00:08:35 who is the false prophet my
00:08:38 speculation would be islam and mohammed
00:08:42 i think that’s a possibility i wonder i
00:08:45 i wouldn’t say i have it completely
00:08:47 figured out
00:08:49 um but i think the jesuits are a very
00:08:51 good case for that because the jesuits
00:08:53 are the one that’s going through behind
00:08:54 the scenes
00:08:55 promoting what the pope does and so
00:08:58 that’s my opinion
00:08:59 okay so the the would be the the
00:09:02 papacy
00:09:03 and the false prophet would be the
00:09:05 jesuits okay that’s what i tend to lean
00:09:09 towards
00:09:10 um i don’t know a hundred percent
00:09:13 on that but that’s kind of where i lean
00:09:16 um okay
00:09:18 uh let me get a video for you real quick
00:09:20 that is done by seventh day advents that
00:09:22 i think is really good
00:09:24 that i think goes into a lot of details
00:09:27 that
00:09:28 goes along with that um
00:09:31 hey steve yeah so while we were just
00:09:34 talking
00:09:35 i just looked up rose and the occult and
00:09:39 rose comes up one of the meanings for it
00:09:42 subrosa a latin phrase meaning under the
00:09:44 rose
00:09:46 which is a means secrecy or
00:09:49 confidentiality
00:09:50 and the rose and its connotation of
00:09:52 secrecy started way back in ancient
00:09:55 egypt and greek mythology
00:09:57 um in ancient egypt the rose was an
00:09:59 emblem of the god horus
00:10:01 in greek mythology it was said aphrodite
00:10:04 the goddess of love and beauty gave her
00:10:06 son
00:10:06 eros a rose that
00:10:09 i think would go along with what i’m
00:10:11 what i’m seeing in the movies because
00:10:13 that’s
00:10:14 all about satan right all of those that
00:10:16 you mentioned
00:10:19 aphrodite satan isis satan
00:10:22 i mean um aphrodite
00:10:26 if i remember correctly i’m sorry if i’m
00:10:29 wrong on this it’s hard to remember
00:10:31 everything straight right but aphrodite
00:10:34 is uh istar
00:10:37 uh in in greek if i remember correctly
00:10:40 it’s
00:10:40 their their properties and attributes
00:10:42 are the same it’s just the same
00:10:44 pagan god renamed if i remember
00:10:45 correctly yeah i’m not 100
00:10:47 sure on that um but i’m pretty sure on
00:10:51 that because
00:10:51 they’re both sex goddesses i i mean you
00:10:54 know why you dye your
00:10:56 eggs red at easter
00:11:00 what’s that because of the blood from
00:11:03 the babies that they killed
00:11:04 i put it on eggs yuck
00:11:08 i know i know that was a pagan yeah i
00:11:10 know that was a pagan
00:11:12 holiday and stuff and that’s yeah it’s
00:11:13 because nine months earlier the their
00:11:16 their wicked priests would have sex with
00:11:18 innocent
00:11:19 bystanders and then they would have
00:11:21 children nine months later and they’d
00:11:23 kill them
00:11:25 which goes into the sra right it’s real
00:11:28 yeah right well the and and you know you
00:11:32 mentioned isis
00:11:33 um estar which i think is what uh
00:11:37 well and then it links to uh asteroth
00:11:40 and are asked after the the feminine
00:11:44 uh consort of ball you know something
00:11:47 uh-huh
00:11:48 i i mispronounce it and stuff and you
00:11:51 know
00:11:51 i know what you’re saying yeah
00:11:55 i you know asked i believe it’s asteroth
00:11:57 or asher
00:11:58 or um yeah yeah that’s fine
00:12:01 i know what you mean sometimes when you
00:12:03 just do the setting here
00:12:04 and just read it and don’t hear people
00:12:06 say it’s hard to know how to say it
00:12:07 right
00:12:08 exactly but i mean they’re stunnier
00:12:12 right yeah they’re con i mean they’re
00:12:14 connected i mean you can
00:12:15 you can see how they’re connected yeah
00:12:19 yeah anyways well going back to the rows
00:12:22 the rose shows that
00:12:25 whoever the beast is which i believe is
00:12:28 satan
00:12:29 which i think going through this even
00:12:31 more will show that he has a time limit
00:12:33 who has a time limit right now satan he
00:12:36 knows he’s going to be bound for a
00:12:37 thousand years
00:12:38 and he’s trying to get as much done as
00:12:39 he can right now
00:12:44 because he has a time limit um okay
00:12:46 let’s skip around
00:12:49 um oh
00:12:52 oh this is interesting so bell
00:12:55 right i’m just seeing bill let’s get do
00:12:59 a good
00:12:59 picture oh look look at the beast oh
00:13:02 wrong button
00:13:03 he’s a beast he’s got the horns he looks
00:13:05 like pan
00:13:07 the goats right
00:13:10 what does that symbolize satan
00:13:14 the baphomet what is the baffle he looks
00:13:16 like the bafflement
00:13:18 do you know what that is right yeah the
00:13:20 bathroom the star
00:13:21 bafflement yeah well no about like the
00:13:24 goat
00:13:25 yeah the goat yeah the goat man yeah
00:13:30 with all its uh
00:13:43 [Music]
00:13:47 sorry go ahead
00:13:50 so belle right what is what is she doing
00:13:54 in here in the opening she’s reading
00:13:56 books right she loves
00:13:58 books all these books
00:14:03 and where does the catholic church get
00:14:05 the
00:14:06 um justifications for all their
00:14:08 doctrines
00:14:10 pagan books that’s what they study they
00:14:13 love
00:14:14 these old pagan books that tells them
00:14:16 satan’s ways
00:14:18 and that’s what bell the
00:14:21 loves belle’s the one that dances with
00:14:24 satan
00:14:25 you know the the there’s a song about i
00:14:28 can’t think of it right now
00:14:30 but you know dancing was saying i’m i’m
00:14:32 i’m butchering it
00:14:33 and that’s what she does in this movie
00:14:35 she dances with satan
00:14:36 later on
00:14:40 um but anyways the beginning they’re you
00:14:42 know they’re singing about the
00:14:44 she’s reading the book how she loves
00:14:45 these books
00:14:47 and gus doff am i saying his name
00:14:51 the the the one that make him look like
00:14:54 a hunting
00:14:54 buffoon right
00:15:00 they’re making fun of christ if you look
00:15:03 at what he
00:15:04 says and does the intent behind
00:15:07 it it’s mimicking christ really i’ve
00:15:10 never oh okay often
00:15:12 the his sidekick the fat sidekick i
00:15:15 can’t remember the name
00:15:16 right now he’s christ’s prophet because
00:15:19 he’s always seeing his praises
00:15:21 right like the prophets actually point
00:15:24 us to christ unlike the false prophets
00:15:26 that we grew up with but true prophets
00:15:29 holy prophets they’re always singing
00:15:31 christ’s praises and bringing them to
00:15:33 christ for the messiah right
00:15:36 that’s what the fat guy does he always
00:15:39 brings them in talking
00:15:40 praises of gaston or
00:15:43 i’m sure i’m saying the name wrong
00:15:47 oh this one the three churches so this
00:15:50 one i haven’t completely figured out
00:15:52 and i wonder if it has to do with past
00:15:55 present
00:15:56 and and future but
00:15:59 these three girls are the three churches
00:16:01 in my opinion or
00:16:03 or you know past present and past that
00:16:06 are
00:16:06 all gazed about gaston or christ only
00:16:10 they could to some way represent
00:16:14 blind followers i i haven’t completely
00:16:16 figured these three out
00:16:18 but it’s interesting that they’re in
00:16:20 here because in the scriptures
00:16:22 churches are women
00:16:27 right um and these three
00:16:31 are always looking to this dawn and want
00:16:33 them but he
00:16:34 gaston wants bell
00:16:38 the catholic church um
00:16:42 anyway let’s skip a little more um
00:16:45 beings all
00:16:45 there there’s i can’t remember his name
00:16:48 but he he’s the fat prophet
00:16:52 um i can’t remember his name but there’s
00:16:54 gaston
00:16:55 right he’s the one that represents
00:16:56 christ
00:16:59 uh we can see what he’s let’s listen to
00:17:01 his song a little bit
00:17:05 look gaston is giving out an invitation
00:17:10 to the church come be married to me
00:17:14 right the the imagery
00:17:18 of marriage is all through the
00:17:20 scriptures right
00:17:21 we’re those who are truly following
00:17:24 yeshua
00:17:25 are his bride and look at that imagery
00:17:29 he’s always going after bella the church
00:17:32 to come be my bride
00:17:37 let’s see what he says so here he’s
00:17:39 trying to ask her out on a date
00:17:42 trying to give her flowers
00:17:52 he’s not giving up christ doesn’t give
00:17:54 up
00:17:56 that’s what makes bell so appealing she
00:17:58 hasn’t made a fool of herself
00:18:11 now he goes off with those who do
00:18:14 believe
00:18:15 or want them right anyways
00:18:24 okay here’s oh this one develops more
00:18:26 and
00:18:27 later but here’s bella’s or bell’s
00:18:30 father
00:18:31 right um in
00:18:34 to me and we can see this more later
00:18:36 it’s the church fathers or the catholic
00:18:39 church fathers that this represents all
00:18:41 their
00:18:42 their inventions their tinkerings
00:18:46 um and the things that they study
00:18:54 um
00:19:01 sorry it’s hard because i don’t want to
00:19:04 watch
00:19:05 it plus facebook will freak out if i
00:19:08 put this up with everything in it
00:19:12 uh okay so here’s the father going
00:19:17 on the mission to go sell his goods
00:19:20 right
00:19:20 or to sell what he believes
00:19:24 and has done to get people to want it
00:19:35 this is where she’s using the donkey to
00:19:37 clean the clothes i don’t remember
00:19:39 too much about that oh here we go
00:19:55 so real believers in christ
00:19:59 did not like the catholic church right
00:20:01 the protestant
00:20:03 movement for one but even before the
00:20:05 punishment movement
00:20:06 there were people that didn’t like the
00:20:09 catholic church
00:20:10 and they taught against what it stood
00:20:12 for
00:20:14 i would say that that kind of represents
00:20:16 that right there
00:20:22 and here they are making bell the
00:20:24 catholic church
00:20:25 look like an innocent bystander i mean
00:20:29 in the movie it looks that way but if
00:20:30 you look at what
00:20:32 i believe it’s representing or
00:20:35 presenting
00:20:36 it’s a whole different story
00:20:45 so here’s christ trying to get the
00:20:47 church to come after him his bride
00:20:49 right oh no he’s looking in the mirror
00:20:53 here they make gaston and christ look so
00:20:56 conceited it’s so annoying but
00:21:00 am i catching at a bad time what does it
00:21:03 look for a certain damage in distress
00:21:10 it’s gonna go save the church right
00:21:12 we’re gonna try to
00:21:21 here’s the prophet trying to be like
00:21:22 christ
00:21:24 well i heard you had trouble with the
00:21:26 headmaster never let me either can i
00:21:29 give you a little advice about the
00:21:30 villagers though
00:21:32 they’re never going to trust the kind of
00:21:33 change you’re trying to write
00:21:36 people aren’t going to like you changing
00:21:38 my ways because
00:21:40 the ways that she’s going against even
00:21:42 in this movie are ways that gaston
00:21:44 promotes right his ways because stone’s
00:21:47 ways
00:21:50 [Music]
00:21:55 read interesting how this always comes
00:21:57 up the reading the books the scrolls
00:22:00 the ancient teachings that are actually
00:22:04 anti-biblical rights
00:22:20 well maybe you should take another look
00:22:22 some of us have changed
00:22:25 we could never make each other happy no
00:22:28 one can change
00:22:30 oh here’s an interesting thing also so
00:22:33 colors have meanings um
00:22:38 i don’t know about how much i want to do
00:22:39 this but satan has a color of
00:22:42 blue christ has a color of red
00:22:46 um and anyways
00:22:50 my favorite edition of the book of
00:22:52 mormon i actually like that it’s red
00:22:54 not that the color really matters um
00:22:57 but i i still have my missionary one
00:23:00 that is actually blue
00:23:02 but i actually like the red color more
00:23:05 um
00:23:05 it it’s a whole nother subject i don’t
00:23:08 know how much to get into
00:23:12 but you’ll see these colors all
00:23:13 throughout those movies
00:23:15 um they’re meaningful
00:23:27 like once or twice
00:23:30 uh i’ve only seen it once or twice too
00:23:34 um i i didn’t see it the first time
00:23:37 it was this last time i i watched with
00:23:39 my wife and son that it
00:23:40 it finally clicked to me um
00:23:46 let’s skip a little bit can you imagine
00:23:49 me the wife of that poorish brain
00:23:54 [Music]
00:23:56 so a lot of christians
00:24:00 like they love to say that i have all
00:24:03 power in christ to do whatever he
00:24:05 he wants me to do right
00:24:09 except keep the commandments when
00:24:10 there’s any talk about keeping the
00:24:12 commandments
00:24:13 or the biblical face from leviticus 23
00:24:16 oh we can’t do that
00:24:20 they think it’s boring
00:24:31 oh here he’s going in this strange
00:24:34 path right dark strange pass
00:24:46 here’s a wolf what do wolves represent
00:24:48 in the scriptures
00:24:51 um so here here’s a wolf
00:24:54 that’s trying to go tear him apart right
00:24:57 he’s not ready for this
00:25:01 woofs are are generally more educated so
00:25:05 this guy is gone
00:25:07 started go down this strange and dark
00:25:09 path
00:25:10 and he doesn’t know enough yet to
00:25:13 protect
00:25:14 himself against these wolves that have
00:25:15 been there all before
00:25:17 all right and so he then starts going
00:25:20 down it more
00:25:27 who knows why but he starts going down
00:25:29 this strange and dark path more partly
00:25:31 because
00:25:31 it looks like he has no other option he
00:25:33 thinks right because he’s running away
00:25:35 from these woes
00:25:36 probably because you know in some people
00:25:38 when they’re studying these things
00:25:39 they’re doing it to defend themselves
00:25:42 so he’s kind of pushed into it
00:25:47 [Music]
00:25:49 he gets to the castle
00:25:52 he breaks in
00:26:00 he gets fed so later on
00:26:04 satan or you know the beast claims he’s
00:26:06 stealing but
00:26:08 if someone is offering you something how
00:26:10 are you stealing
00:26:12 right you’re not stealing when someone
00:26:14 offers you something
00:26:17 and that’s what it gets if i remember
00:26:18 quickly which gets or was it for picking
00:26:20 the rose
00:26:22 it’s been a while since i’ve watched it
00:26:23 let’s see no
00:26:25 actually i think it was for picking the
00:26:26 rose
00:26:28 not the most prepared for this
00:26:43 oh it’s picking the rose there we go
00:26:46 which is interesting it’s
00:26:47 back to rose right that
00:26:51 he picked which brings out what you
00:26:54 you went and looked real quick what the
00:26:55 rose represents in the occult
00:26:57 right jeremy that’s what he took
00:27:02 that’s what he learned rose satan got
00:27:04 hold of him once he did that
00:27:09 that’s when he was bound after he got
00:27:13 that information knowledge
00:27:17 uh oh i guess we missed the part where
00:27:18 bill come and
00:27:22 let’s see the horse comes home
00:27:41 all right she just goes gets them
00:27:54 [Music]
00:27:59 she just wants to defend her fathers
00:28:03 and that’s what the catholic church
00:28:04 defends the false teachings
00:28:07 of its fathers right
00:28:19 she takes her his place
00:28:23 she’s there too she’s done it also she’s
00:28:26 also bound
00:28:42 sorry
00:28:47 laws as alma 34 brings out
00:28:50 does not allow punishment
00:28:53 for someone else to stand in place for
00:28:56 punishment
00:28:58 34 makes that clear torah makes that
00:29:00 clear in fact one thing
00:29:02 especially with the the lpgt supposed
00:29:05 revelation right
00:29:06 taurus says you cannot punish someone
00:29:09 else
00:29:09 for someone else’s sins that’s what
00:29:12 they’re promoting
00:29:13 right here but
00:29:16 behind the scenes though or the story
00:29:20 sometimes you kind of you can’t do thing
00:29:23 everything correctly because of the
00:29:24 storyline right
00:29:25 but she who the catholic church is
00:29:29 bound to satan here she bounded herself
00:29:32 because
00:29:33 she wanted to take her father’s place or
00:29:37 protect her father and to protect her
00:29:39 father she
00:29:40 in real life they have to go into the
00:29:42 same teachings
00:29:43 also
00:29:50 oh magic stuff
00:29:59 so i’m not really sure the little candle
00:30:01 stick is yet
00:30:03 but just a little light a little fire
00:30:08 but this guy right here
00:30:12 the grandfather clock you look back far
00:30:15 enough the grandfather clock represents
00:30:18 saturn who ate his children saturn is
00:30:21 the father
00:30:22 of time which is what um grandfather
00:30:25 clocks are based off of
00:30:26 and along with that i know this may
00:30:29 sound a little crazy
00:30:33 in babylon 666 was the number of
00:30:36 saturn false worship is based off of the
00:30:40 ancient
00:30:41 sun ancient dark sun worship
00:30:48 saturn
00:30:55 i’m not sure what to do with the candle
00:30:57 guy yet though
00:30:58 completely you must forgive
00:31:06 [Music]
00:31:09 uh all this gold i mean that could
00:31:18 represent money
00:31:19 right and and
00:31:23 and i mean the desires
00:31:26 of the horde is gold and linen
00:31:32 she likes it it looks great right
00:31:38 those colors steve uh that color i mean
00:31:41 sorry say that let me pause it say that
00:31:43 again i didn’t hear you
00:31:44 sorry i was just saying uh back up if
00:31:47 you can back up to the room
00:31:49 the colors the gold and that blue
00:31:54 is the same color scheme of that famous
00:31:56 picture of aphrodite that
00:31:59 you know we could only see the head yeah
00:32:01 yeah that’s a good point i never
00:32:03 i never caught that that’s a good point
00:32:05 yeah
00:32:06 well gold and that would tie her into
00:32:08 aphrodite in the
00:32:09 wow huh yeah i didn’t call it
00:32:12 well so saturn’s color has multiple
00:32:15 colors to it
00:32:16 saturn um can be white
00:32:19 yellow or gold are the three most common
00:32:22 colors for saturn
00:32:26 and but also saturn has to do with money
00:32:30 too um which gold interesting
00:32:34 i mean saturn father and father time
00:32:36 then
00:32:37 yeah on saturn wow okay he’s also the
00:32:40 one that ate
00:32:41 his own children right okay
00:32:44 yeah satan said what does he do to his
00:32:47 followers he doesn’t support them
00:32:51 you stretch them to shred he shreds them
00:32:53 destroy all that sounds redundant
00:32:55 starts him to shreds when it’s
00:32:57 convenient for him or he can’t support
00:32:58 him anymore
00:32:59 right he doesn’t care about him he
00:33:02 destroys him
00:33:04 i mean that’s even literal even if he
00:33:06 was supporting him he’s destroying his
00:33:08 children
00:33:09 or his followers his son in hebrew is an
00:33:12 e
00:33:13 hebrew idiom for follower
00:33:17 oh interesting and father is a hebrew
00:33:20 idiom for leader
00:33:24 name is a hebrew idiom for authority
00:33:28 is christ’s authority that’s going to
00:33:30 save us
00:33:34 anyways amen
00:33:42 i don’t know what this right here is all
00:33:43 about
00:33:45 i i know that’s the maid um
00:33:49 but i mean just birds in general
00:33:53 birds in general can represent angels
00:33:56 and depending on the context it can be
00:33:58 from heaven or from satan
00:33:59 they you know yeah demons are saying
00:34:04 yeah peacocks uh can represent
00:34:06 immortality
00:34:08 depending on the context i didn’t know
00:34:11 that one
00:34:11 um well
00:34:17 promises people eternal life that he
00:34:19 can’t um
00:34:20 fulfill on right right
00:34:24 uh because he doesn’t have the power to
00:34:26 do that but he
00:34:27 he gives such promises
00:34:32 in fact you know in um star wars the
00:34:35 only one that has the power
00:34:37 to bring someone back from the dead is
00:34:39 the supposed bad guy
00:34:41 but who is the only one that has that
00:34:42 power in real life
00:34:44 yeah yeah the darth vader yeah i know
00:34:47 what you’re talking about
00:34:48 yeah yeah um anyways this is one of the
00:34:51 sith lords
00:34:52 yeah yeah um it’s just another
00:34:56 star wars is full of these examples of
00:34:59 making good look evil and evil look good
00:35:01 it’s just hollywood has them all over
00:35:03 the place
00:35:04 and i’ve seen them more the more i’ve
00:35:07 read the scriptures
00:35:09 the more i see them that they’re just
00:35:11 mocking
00:35:12 the scriptures and
00:35:15 they’re trying to get those who don’t
00:35:18 study
00:35:19 to actually accept their false narrative
00:35:21 because it’s actually
00:35:22 close and they actually do a very good
00:35:26 hollywood does an actual very good job
00:35:27 at it in fact
00:35:29 i would say sadly that hollywood does a
00:35:32 lot better at putting thought into their
00:35:34 stories
00:35:35 than the christian genre that is trying
00:35:37 to you know do things for god
00:35:40 absolutely they put a lot more thought
00:35:43 and effort into it than those who
00:35:45 believe in god
00:35:45 in fact in revelations i think it is god
00:35:48 chews out the believers for
00:35:50 being so lazy and not being like the
00:35:54 merchants of money
00:35:56 right to be so diligent and thoughtful
00:35:58 and thorough
00:35:59 on it the ones who are most thorough the
00:36:02 ones who really know what they’re doing
00:36:04 satan most believers in god today are
00:36:10 lazy
00:36:12 it’s sad most are look warm and they’re
00:36:15 gonna get spit out i’m not sure what the
00:36:26 chest is but
00:36:27 one thing could be so
00:36:31 in isaiah right there i forget which
00:36:33 isaiah
00:36:34 but it’s one that’s quoted in the book
00:36:35 of mormon it says seven women will take
00:36:37 upon
00:36:38 that want to call upon his name but have
00:36:41 their own garments and eat their own
00:36:43 meals
00:36:44 that’s not a good rate right so she’s
00:36:46 getting
00:36:48 putting a garment on in this segment
00:36:51 here
00:36:52 that’s from satan’s kingdom
00:36:56 um and garments have to do with our
00:36:59 righteousness and the reason we need
00:37:00 god’s garment is because
00:37:02 our righteousness is less than a
00:37:04 menstrual
00:37:05 rag it’s garbage
00:37:09 we need christ’s garment his
00:37:11 righteousness
00:37:13 and it’s interesting that i that verse
00:37:16 in isaiah is not talking about polygamy
00:37:18 when you go look at the hebrew context
00:37:20 and
00:37:21 and correlate with other hebrew
00:37:23 scriptures
00:37:24 is talking about how their people want
00:37:27 to claim
00:37:27 christ but they don’t want his
00:37:29 righteousness
00:37:31 and they don’t want his food which is
00:37:34 his word
00:37:35 christ is the bread of life and the
00:37:36 bread of life is the scriptures
00:37:38 they don’t want that they want their own
00:37:41 way not his way
00:37:45 but just off my initial thought right
00:37:47 now because i hadn’t figured this one
00:37:48 out but that closet that dresses her
00:37:53 she’s getting clothed with satan’s
00:37:56 unwhite
00:37:56 clothing right it’s colored what color
00:37:59 is it i forget
00:38:01 probably red for blood
00:38:05 because they’re i mean the catholic
00:38:07 church is drunk with the blood of saints
00:38:09 let’s see if it’s right i don’t remember
00:38:18 [Music]
00:38:30 had a lucky guess and i had a reason for
00:38:33 it
00:38:33 [Music]
00:38:40 it’s not it looks horrible too right
00:38:45 i don’t think that was by accident
00:38:47 anyways
00:38:54 oh it’s okay see look this is uh a scene
00:38:58 where
00:38:59 the prophet sings praises to
00:39:02 gaston after he he can’t get his bride
00:39:05 to come
00:39:06 right
00:39:10 can you guys hear it hear the the video
00:39:14 kind of kind of i mean it’s not
00:39:18 it’s probably hard yeah i don’t have
00:39:21 english
00:39:22 oh it’s i’ll i’ll try to pause it
00:39:30 yeah it’s lower than your voice but i
00:39:31 can certainly hear it
00:39:34 okay um maybe if i turn up my volume
00:39:38 i don’t want to go too high oh no
00:39:42 did oh i must have hit the wrong button
00:39:44 dang it
00:39:48 oh okay so let’s see even when taking
00:39:51 your
00:39:55 admired lumps you you’re everyone’s
00:39:57 favorite guy
00:39:59 whatever you did that worked i can hear
00:40:01 it now yeah
00:40:02 i i i turned up the volume a little bit
00:40:05 you’re everyone’s favorite guy who
00:40:08 should be
00:40:09 everyone’s favorite guy seriously who
00:40:12 should be everyone’s
00:40:13 best friend it should be christ
00:40:23 ears have to do with listening right who
00:40:26 should we be listening to
00:40:28 [Music]
00:40:30 and look it was the poor guy that was
00:40:32 listening to him
00:40:35 or you know doing stuff with the ears
00:40:37 which have to do with listening it’s the
00:40:39 poor guy
00:40:40 the wretched the one the one that no one
00:40:42 wants to do with that
00:40:43 like the parable and the rich men or
00:40:46 lazarus and the rich man in the new
00:40:48 testament right it was the poor guy that
00:40:50 listened
00:40:52 the rich guy just rejected everything
00:41:00 so now we’re singing praises
00:41:11 look how he fixed his neck
00:41:16 well what symbolic of a healing well
00:41:19 who has stiff necks those who don’t
00:41:21 listen to this gone
00:41:23 he just fixed his neck so that he’ll
00:41:26 like aston
00:41:34 like the church singing the praises
00:41:38 that’s who i think those are
00:41:40 [Music]
00:41:46 whose team’s gonna win win
00:41:50 who’s gonna win the the war i mean we’re
00:41:53 there’s some battles we’re gonna lose
00:41:55 but who’s gonna win the war
00:41:57 whose team do you wanna be on
00:42:03 [Music]
00:42:07 they’re making fun of the the believers
00:42:10 they don’t know the name
00:42:12 and it’s been hidden actually really
00:42:14 it’s not jesus you know in the 16-11
00:42:16 edition of the bible is isus
00:42:19 j’s a new letter
00:42:29 [Music]
00:42:33 yeah in 1611 it was spelt with an
00:42:37 eye okay so they’re sticking with the
00:42:40 greek then or
00:42:41 well no i i yes shoes i i use
00:42:44 y not i um
00:42:47 i i’ve i haven’t put a lot of time into
00:42:50 this but there’s
00:42:52 one theory that makes me think that i’m
00:42:55 yeshua may be slightly wrong
00:42:59 um where it might be
00:43:02 yeshua or i don’t know how to say it i
00:43:05 know it has a
00:43:06 like y-a-h-s-h
00:43:10 i heard yo yoshua yeshua joshua
00:43:14 joshua well joshua would be a better one
00:43:17 in english than jesus
00:43:19 actually because that’s right right
00:43:20 joshua had the same name as jesus
00:43:23 in hebrew right so i can understand that
00:43:25 one but that one’s still a bad
00:43:26 translation but it’s better than english
00:43:28 sure
00:43:29 yeah um
00:43:32 though i’m so i do believe we should put
00:43:35 some effort into
00:43:39 saying his name correctly
00:43:42 but it’s not a saving issue if
00:43:45 being able to say his name correctly
00:43:50 was a requirement that’s a work we’re
00:43:51 not saved by works in addition
00:43:53 those who are dumb meaning those who
00:43:55 can’t speak
00:43:56 wouldn’t be able to be saved because
00:43:58 they can’t say his name
00:44:00 it’s not the actual name that saves us
00:44:03 it’s his authority
00:44:05 that saves us exactly and name
00:44:09 in hebrew is an idiom for authority
00:44:13 it and so i i think
00:44:16 do the best you think you can and and
00:44:19 what you think the name is
00:44:20 but i believe joseph smith is a prophet
00:44:23 he translated it into jesus i think
00:44:26 part of it and i think a big part is
00:44:28 because that’s what jesus was known by
00:44:31 um in his day so that’s what he used
00:44:36 um because the book of mormon
00:44:39 and i this is something that someone
00:44:40 else said before me but i
00:44:42 uh rob k but he said this and i
00:44:46 completely agree with the book of mormon
00:44:47 was the first hebrew roots
00:44:50 movement there was
00:44:53 i believe it um
00:44:57 there the book of mormon has so many
00:44:59 hebrew things in it that
00:45:00 we as gentiles don’t see unless we put
00:45:03 effort into it
00:45:06 anyways
00:45:12 see look now they’re after the prophet
00:45:15 gets them riled up to believe in gaston
00:45:17 now they’re all joining in right that’s
00:45:19 how it happens
00:45:20 in the real world the prophet sings his
00:45:23 praises to christ
00:45:24 and then other people because of their
00:45:27 testimonies
00:45:28 like my one of my favorite verses in
00:45:30 lectures on faith
00:45:32 is lecture 2 verse 56 which basically
00:45:35 says it is because of the testimonies of
00:45:37 the prophets and the credence that we
00:45:38 give to them that we then go seek after
00:45:40 christ ourselves
00:45:41 and that’s what’s happening right here
00:45:43 because of this prophet
00:45:46 the fray or whatever now they are
00:45:49 singing praises to christ because of a
00:45:51 prophet
00:45:53 that they gave grievances
00:46:00 no that’s a twist christ doesn’t need
00:46:02 encouragement from us
00:46:03 but i mean it goes along with the
00:46:06 narrative that they’re
00:46:07 pushing so
00:46:10 it’s not a hundred percent there but
00:46:12 there are tons of perils hopefully that
00:46:14 you’re
00:46:15 seeing i i’m not just making this up but
00:46:17 i can bring you know parallels sorry go
00:46:20 ahead
00:46:21 no i was just i was i was agreeing with
00:46:23 you steve i mean that
00:46:25 uh thanks for bringing this up i mean i
00:46:27 i i didn’t see the parallels with that
00:46:29 well i’ve seen it before without it was
00:46:31 only the last time i watched it that i
00:46:33 did
00:46:34 a couple months ago so i’m not prepared
00:46:36 to do this right now but you can
00:46:38 at least see the basics of it i’m not
00:46:47 [Music]
00:46:51 okay so we get the idea of the song
00:46:53 maybe go on
00:47:00 in a little bit if i remember the
00:47:03 dads coming saying save my daughter
00:47:15 here we go
00:47:31 [Music]
00:47:33 so in a minute the the father belle’s
00:47:36 father’s coming that you know went down
00:47:38 the dark and
00:47:39 strange paths that is coming to come
00:47:43 help
00:47:44 get help for um his daughter because she
00:47:47 took her place
00:47:50 right
00:47:59 [Music]
00:48:03 i know what they’re doing but i still
00:48:04 find it somewhat funny i’m
00:48:06 i’m horrible i anyways
00:48:12 hollywood does a very good job of making
00:48:14 evil look good and good look evil
00:48:17 yes they do i
00:48:22 i know but i still like some of their
00:48:24 movies i’ve seen it in some of my
00:48:27 childhood favorites now
00:48:28 um like labyrinth they make fun of
00:48:31 christ in that too we could do that
00:48:32 another
00:48:33 really oh yeah wow
00:48:36 it’s it’s uh anyways that’s
00:48:40 for another time yeah yeah yeah
00:48:44 okay here comes the father that movie in
00:48:46 ages
00:48:47 oh it was one of my favorites growing up
00:48:50 and i’ll be honest i didn’t see it
00:48:52 until recently i i got it to show it to
00:48:55 my son because it’s one of my favorites
00:48:56 and i started watching it
00:48:58 and i’m like holy mackerel
00:49:02 so here’s one for you what happened
00:49:07 to hoggle the one that can they can
00:49:09 never say his name right
00:49:11 happened when he received a kiss
00:49:14 he went in the bogs of hell what
00:49:17 happened
00:49:18 to christ after judas gave him a kiss he
00:49:21 went
00:49:21 now wow it’s all over
00:49:26 and it’s sad it was one of my favorite
00:49:28 movies as a kid
00:49:33 i i don’t think hansen is as good as i
00:49:36 used to think he was
00:49:38 i don’t know how he could put so much
00:49:41 effort into that and not know what he
00:49:42 was doing
00:49:43 to be honest interesting
00:49:46 anyways have you uh seen any pair i mean
00:49:50 i wonder if there’s a parallels and dark
00:49:52 crystal i know dark crystals like full
00:49:54 of
00:49:55 vehicles yeah so it’s been a while since
00:49:57 i’ve seen dark crystal
00:50:00 um the last time i saw it was a long
00:50:01 time ago more what i see in the in dark
00:50:03 crystal is polar configuration
00:50:05 things but i i would say
00:50:08 there are some like the council of nine
00:50:13 the host of heaven they make them out to
00:50:16 be bad
00:50:17 the host of heaven the host of heaven
00:50:18 are the planets i don’t know how much
00:50:20 you know about the polar configuration
00:50:22 but i believe it was the host of heaven
00:50:25 mars
00:50:27 that caused all the plagues and the
00:50:30 miracles and the exodus
00:50:32 and god used mars to do that the host of
00:50:35 heaven
00:50:38 and it’s going to happen again in fact
00:50:39 one of my favorite quotes
00:50:41 from joseph smith i think goes along
00:50:43 with this let me go get it
00:50:44 i have a pit i have it in picture form
00:50:46 [Music]
00:50:48 um anyways
00:50:54 i have some quotes and pictures and
00:50:55 summon text
00:50:57 it’s anyways
00:51:01 here let me show this real quick
00:51:05 stop sharing change which one i’m
00:51:08 sharing
00:51:10 look at this men will appear the grand
00:51:13 sign of the son of man in heaven but
00:51:16 what would they do
00:51:17 they will say it is a planet a comet
00:51:22 it’s coming back
00:51:27 um so here’s another here let’s
00:51:33 uh let’s see oh here’s a good one that
00:51:36 goes along with it
00:51:46 now scientists will tell you it is not
00:51:48 scientific that
00:51:49 two planets coming together would be
00:51:52 disastrous
00:51:53 to both but when two planets or other
00:51:55 objects are traveling in the same
00:51:56 direction
00:51:57 which most the planets do right
00:52:01 [Music]
00:52:03 same direction and with one of them a
00:52:05 little greater velocity than the other
00:52:06 it would not be disastrous because one
00:52:09 traveling faster
00:52:10 would take over the other
00:52:13 why would joseph smith be talking about
00:52:15 stuff like that i believe that relates
00:52:17 to the other quote
00:52:20 yeah i think have you read any uh andrew
00:52:23 larson
00:52:24 yeah i hosted a lot of his lectures uh
00:52:27 oh
00:52:27 okay gotcha gotcha okay i know who is
00:52:30 this
00:52:31 yeah uh i’ll give you a research my
00:52:34 resource on it
00:52:36 um we had a falling out
00:52:41 and we’ll just leave it at that i’ve
00:52:43 written about it you can go read about
00:52:44 it if you want
00:52:46 okay say no more okay i don’t wanna i
00:52:49 don’t wanna
00:52:50 that’s bad fine i just i’ve written
00:52:52 about it i
00:52:53 you go read my anthony larson post you
00:52:56 can go read all about it
00:52:58 why hasn’t he passed away a couple years
00:53:00 ago he did yeah
00:53:02 uh if i did a a post called red carpets
00:53:06 uh somewhat to thank him for all his
00:53:09 work that he did
00:53:11 bringing out how red carpets
00:53:14 is like the red plasma that goes down
00:53:17 from mars right
00:53:21 that’s what i believe it’s based off of
00:53:23 and i’ve
00:53:24 written that and then some people shared
00:53:26 it in the group and a whole bunch of
00:53:27 controversy
00:53:28 came up because of him and me and
00:53:31 everything but
00:53:32 anyways but yeah
00:53:35 he i so i believe
00:53:40 uh the trumpets that will be heard
00:53:44 during all this second coming stuff is
00:53:46 going to be
00:53:47 from the sounds of the planets that are
00:53:49 resonating coming
00:53:51 together
00:53:54 um because nasa has um
00:53:57 video or not videos recordings of what
00:53:59 planet sounds like
00:54:01 and they somewhat sound like so shofar
00:54:03 horns
00:54:05 which i have one um but you can go on
00:54:08 youtube and
00:54:09 go listen to them and then go compare
00:54:11 that to
00:54:13 from nasa’s recordings of the
00:54:16 sounds from planets
00:54:24 when you’re talking about like the the
00:54:25 um the polar
00:54:28 conversion or the configuration
00:54:31 yeah is that is that like what he was
00:54:33 talking about with like saturn
00:54:35 mars venus um being lined up
00:54:38 let me show you my favorite video it’s
00:54:40 like one minute
00:54:42 on it um
00:54:45 he didn’t make it but um i know the guy
00:54:49 that
00:54:49 did and then someone added
00:54:54 subtitles to it that um
00:54:59 and i do like the labels that are on it
00:55:01 here let me share this screen
00:55:03 this is a good overview
00:55:06 um i
00:55:10 there are when you get into some
00:55:12 specifics i disagree on various things
00:55:14 but the overall theory i do
00:55:16 completely agree on and i do i see it in
00:55:18 isaiah as we’ve talked about i see it in
00:55:20 exodus i see it in the book of mormon i
00:55:23 see it all over
00:55:24 but anyways here’s a good um
00:55:29 summary well that was his thing right
00:55:30 was you know that you can see the polar
00:55:32 configuration and everything you know
00:55:34 the revelation
00:55:35 the even the lds endowment and stuff
00:55:37 like that was
00:55:39 sure yeah uh and i agree it’s it’s
00:55:41 everywhere
00:55:42 um but we would probably disagree on
00:55:46 some of the reasons why it is everywhere
00:55:48 um but yes it’s everywhere i mean even
00:55:51 roundabouts
00:55:53 you know all roundabouts around the
00:55:54 whole world are counter clockwise
00:55:56 the crescent on saturn turned
00:56:00 counter clockwise it’s all over
00:56:03 when you know what to look for
00:56:18 there’s your red carpet
00:56:31 [Music]
00:57:06 it’s all forgetting forgotten history
00:57:10 so
00:57:13 for a while they made a big deal out of
00:57:15 the conference center of i’m i’m the one
00:57:17 that found it
00:57:19 um oh okay yeah i remember i remember
00:57:21 seeing a post on that
00:57:22 a while back yeah so i
00:57:26 i read a post by someone
00:57:30 that was claiming the um
00:57:33 the large and spacious building was the
00:57:35 conference center
00:57:37 yeah yeah and they had a picture it
00:57:40 wasn’t this one let’s see if i have the
00:57:41 picture that they had
00:57:42 hold on one minute oh yeah it was this
00:57:45 one
00:57:46 um
00:57:50 and on that post it was that picture so
00:57:53 the post
00:57:54 itself was very biased right um
00:57:57 i mean they’re just putting their
00:57:59 personal opinions into the scriptures
00:58:01 not having anything
00:58:02 really to back it right everybody does
00:58:05 that
00:58:05 well not everybody but mostly everybody
00:58:08 does that
00:58:08 right but the only thing i really got
00:58:12 from that article that i liked was this
00:58:14 picture
00:58:16 can you see it or if not i’ll point it
00:58:19 out oh no i
00:58:20 yeah i remember i remember that uh
00:58:23 i remember the post and i remember
00:58:25 seeing the yeah there it is right there
00:58:27 there’s the crescent
00:58:28 which actually has nine pyramids nine
00:58:31 planets
00:58:32 there’s the blue the venus the water
00:58:33 that’s coming out i believe part of the
00:58:35 flood that happened
00:58:37 in genesis was partly from the water
00:58:39 from saturn
00:58:41 and scientists have shown that the water
00:58:43 that’s on saturn is like the water on
00:58:45 earth if the world evolved the way that
00:58:48 science
00:58:49 mainstream says which it didn’t that’s
00:58:52 not possible
00:58:53 anyways there’s the uh angle or the
00:58:57 plasma
00:58:58 from mars down to earth
00:59:02 i mean there’s more to it and then
00:59:03 there’s the fibo dibble right there
00:59:05 right the three planets on the bible
00:59:07 dibble document
00:59:10 that right there is the uh water
00:59:14 fountain
00:59:14 and that’s crazy too here let me give
00:59:17 you a picture of
00:59:18 that
00:59:20 [Music]
00:59:28 so look at the picture on the symbols of
00:59:31 an ancient alien sky which is a very
00:59:33 good documentary
00:59:34 in my opinion you see there’s saturn
00:59:36 venus with all the you know
00:59:38 the plasma coming out and mars
00:59:41 look at that there’s the circle the red
00:59:46 and then you go look a little below
00:59:48 there’s a venus with the plasmas going
00:59:50 out
00:59:51 that’s inside the conference center
00:59:54 wow they say that the the symbols in the
00:59:58 conference center have no meaning that’s
01:00:00 a lie
01:00:03 somebody’s aware of them oh yeah i don’t
01:00:06 believe it was inspired
01:00:07 in fact there was
01:00:10 when people in the group tried to say
01:00:13 that it was
01:00:14 i would quote um a book that of someone
01:00:17 who
01:00:18 interviewed the architects they said it
01:00:20 wasn’t inspired and it wasn’t given to
01:00:22 them
01:00:22 by the apostles and so
01:00:26 either their lot anyways it yeah
01:00:29 yeah so there’s good and bad to the
01:00:32 polar configuration
01:00:33 um yeah there’s a bad part
01:00:37 the dark sun that
01:00:40 paganism uses for all their base of
01:00:43 their
01:00:44 um false worship is based off of it
01:00:50 the reason why the pagans thought it was
01:00:52 okay to worship
01:00:53 sacrifice their children to the gods is
01:00:55 because saturn ate his children
01:01:00 i mean which is the wrong myth but when
01:01:02 you look at the history of the planets
01:01:04 it looked like it
01:01:05 did um i forget
01:01:08 forget that so so it translates back to
01:01:11 to the babylonian myths too uh the
01:01:13 the head god if i’m not mistaken he ate
01:01:16 his children too
01:01:18 it’s the same myth just exactly yeah
01:01:21 names yeah i forget the guy’s
01:01:24 he’s the father of marduk darn it
01:01:28 remember that one off top my head i so
01:01:32 yeah they’re oh the the
01:01:35 something the hero with a thousand faces
01:01:38 i i’ve read parts of that yeah
01:01:41 partly just to find the similarities
01:01:43 between these stories to try to
01:01:45 help polar configuration understanding
01:01:48 and he
01:01:49 in my opinion he doesn’t do a very good
01:01:51 job to be honest gotcha
01:01:53 yeah but he does use his research a lot
01:01:56 but i think hollywood has refined it in
01:01:59 my opinion
01:02:00 yeah yeah oh yeah
01:02:03 or and i mean you can see i mean i can
01:02:06 kind of see a similarity you know and
01:02:09 the mythicists like to use a lot of that
01:02:12 stuff and you know for their arguments
01:02:15 for you know saying jesus was
01:02:17 a myth and didn’t really exist and it’s
01:02:19 just like yeah well
01:02:20 the problem is their myths are quite a
01:02:22 bit different i i
01:02:24 yeah so i’ll give you a resource page
01:02:26 that has some
01:02:28 other res resources right yeah along
01:02:31 those lines that show that
01:02:34 how how they have uh changed to miss
01:02:38 today it looks like they have um
01:02:41 relevance that’s where jesus came from
01:02:42 but when you go look at the
01:02:45 history of them that’s actually not the
01:02:47 case
01:02:48 um yeah no when you do it uh when you
01:02:51 dive
01:02:52 do a deep dive into it i mean it’s def i
01:02:55 mean there’s definitely
01:02:56 differences i mean i got into a my
01:02:59 little brother’s buying into the
01:03:00 i mean he left the church and stuff and
01:03:02 he’s really buying
01:03:04 hard into the into the mythicist
01:03:06 argument and so it’s like
01:03:08 and i don’t like to have arguments and
01:03:10 debates with people and stuff but it’s
01:03:11 just like i had to call him out on that
01:03:13 i said
01:03:14 is he he was trying to point out this
01:03:15 one uh
01:03:17 god uh
01:03:20 greek god i think it was uh and i was
01:03:22 like dude there’s no way there’s not
01:03:24 even a
01:03:25 well there are some parallels
01:03:29 right right but some well like hercules
01:03:33 right
01:03:33 and his heel sure genesis
01:03:37 that’s yeah but i mean point by point
01:03:40 they completely fail
01:03:42 one is not a connection i i mean
01:03:48 i don’t know who in their right mind
01:03:49 will say one point
01:03:51 being the same means this is where it
01:03:53 came from come on right right
01:03:55 yeah i i mean i definitely don’t yeah
01:03:57 i’m with you all now i
01:03:58 i definitely don’t buy that just because
01:04:00 it’s one point i mean
01:04:02 at one i mean i’ve opened i’m open to
01:04:04 the point
01:04:05 to where you know it’s these were
01:04:09 left meal maybe leftover miss from a
01:04:11 previous
01:04:13 civilization that passed those down
01:04:16 but it’s been corrupted over the years
01:04:18 you know
01:04:21 yeah you know
01:04:25 really easy because um we can go down to
01:04:27 noah and his children and grandchildren
01:04:30 um right the 70 nations are from the 70
01:04:34 grandchildren of noah
01:04:37 um and that’s fyi that’s why i have 70
01:04:40 um uh elders
01:04:44 right in the new testament and that’s
01:04:45 somewhat why the 70 and the eldest
01:04:48 church help out with missionary work
01:04:49 because 70 is has to do with
01:04:51 the world because of the 70
01:04:54 grandchildren in the 70 nations but
01:04:56 anyways um
01:04:59 but they got truth from noah
01:05:02 but they didn’t like it so they modified
01:05:05 it
01:05:07 that’s why there’s a lot of part of the
01:05:08 reason why there’s a lot of parallels
01:05:10 just because yeah yeah they did have
01:05:12 some but then they they just didn’t like
01:05:13 it so they
01:05:15 changed it perverted it and yeah a lot
01:05:18 of bad things
01:05:19 sadly yeah i mean that’s what babylon i
01:05:22 would say is probably the most
01:05:23 popular one because that’s where egypt
01:05:25 got its stuff was battle on
01:05:28 it’s just egypt got very popular for
01:05:30 whatever reason
01:05:31 because it it anyways
01:05:35 no i said no it’s interesting i mean no
01:05:37 i that that’s kind of
01:05:38 you’re you’re you’re i mean that’s kind
01:05:40 of my line of thinking too about it too
01:05:42 is that you know just
01:05:43 um just got corrupted down the you know
01:05:47 i can see some similarities
01:05:48 you know like you’re saying they’re
01:05:49 there but this one though my little
01:05:51 brother was trying to pull out i was
01:05:52 like dude it’s like no way
01:05:55 i don’t know if you ever heard of mithra
01:05:57 uh i’m aware
01:05:58 i i don’t know details but yeah they’ve
01:06:00 tried the mythicists trying to
01:06:02 say that he’s he’s a type of christ and
01:06:05 they try and say that he was
01:06:06 born of a virgin yeah some say
01:06:10 that yeah christ’s body at the cross
01:06:16 um
01:06:18 yeah i mean it’s it’s it’s based on junk
01:06:21 history and a lot of the
01:06:22 the historians that i’ve read don’t see
01:06:24 the connection with mithra i mean that
01:06:27 there there’s better there’s better
01:06:30 parallels but
01:06:31 is a really poor one and my little
01:06:32 brother just got really upset at me for
01:06:35 that one i was like dude whatever
01:06:38 well if you want to it’s a free country
01:06:39 if you want to believe that go for it
01:06:41 i’m not i mean i’m just saying
01:06:43 the scholarship is really scantily for
01:06:45 sure
01:06:46 i mean layman and lamella didn’t like it
01:06:47 when if i told truth either
01:06:49 right
01:06:50 [Laughter]
01:06:53 i’ll tell you lds i don’t like that when
01:06:55 i bring that out when they
01:06:56 say i’m being rude and crude i’m like
01:06:58 well
01:07:01 even millennial didn’t like it either
01:07:03 right
01:07:05 they you know i’ve had some people say
01:07:07 you can’t you you can’t use my book of
01:07:09 mormon against me
01:07:10 i’m like it’s for one it’s god’s book of
01:07:12 mormon not yours
01:07:14 he gave it to everybody not just you
01:07:18 and if the shoe fits wear it in fact you
01:07:21 know
01:07:22 who were the most wicked just before
01:07:23 christ’s coming
01:07:25 he was the greatest and the nephites are
01:07:27 you know supposedly
01:07:29 the righteous ones us you know well are
01:07:32 type for us
01:07:32 too i mean we’re you know sure yeah
01:07:36 and we’re the we’re the ones that have
01:07:38 the the scriptures and we have
01:07:39 the most you know we have the book of
01:07:42 mormon we have the doctrine and
01:07:43 covenants we have the most
01:07:44 light you know but and we should be
01:07:48 reading and understanding and applying
01:07:50 ourselves and
01:07:52 you know for whatever reason so just uh
01:07:55 promote my
01:07:56 one post i have a little bit have you
01:07:58 read my king brigham post
01:08:01 uh
01:08:04 i think i did i don’t remember it often
01:08:08 written a huh
01:08:12 you’ve written a lot so there’s a lot of
01:08:14 stuff i haven’t written enough in my
01:08:16 opinion
01:08:16 so oh gotcha gotcha um
01:08:20 i i’m i have in my wordpress i have 12
01:08:24 articles i’m currently working on and
01:08:26 i’m not always the most
01:08:27 diligent the last month and a half or so
01:08:29 i’ve been working really hard for work
01:08:32 um in fact i even
01:08:40 so yesterday i got an insight about the
01:08:43 adulterous woman
01:08:47 it’s interesting you know that she was
01:08:50 caught in the very act
01:08:52 i mean she did it right
01:08:55 sure right right they say that they put
01:08:57 her in the act of it right
01:08:58 right it was a kangaroo court i have
01:09:00 written some about that
01:09:02 event in my bishops or judges of
01:09:04 israel’s post but
01:09:06 here’s the insight that i got
01:09:11 we commit adultery with satan
01:09:16 also and when
01:09:20 he has his servants accuse us
01:09:24 they don’t bring forth the male satan
01:09:27 because we’re
01:09:29 we’re the church we’re the female right
01:09:33 because satan knows this is the law of
01:09:35 states
01:09:37 the man has to become because if they
01:09:39 caught him in the very act where’s the
01:09:41 man
01:09:42 they’re liars or they set it up and they
01:09:44 know what they’re doing
01:09:45 i think it’s more of a setup than just
01:09:47 lying
01:09:48 but anyways the law states the man
01:09:52 is to be punished also but satan knows
01:09:56 what the punishment is the church that’s
01:09:58 committing adultery doesn’t know
01:10:04 in hosanna right one of the things that
01:10:07 he did
01:10:08 or god had told him to do was to marry a
01:10:10 prostitute
01:10:13 to represent how god fulfills
01:10:16 with the relationship with israel
01:10:20 i i when i didn’t know any better i was
01:10:23 doing christmas easter and
01:10:25 halloween and all those you know
01:10:26 adulterous things
01:10:29 right i’m not you know
01:10:32 i mean i will plead some um
01:10:36 not knowing any better because i didn’t
01:10:37 but i know better now and i don’t
01:10:39 or i don’t to the extent that i can get
01:10:41 away with because my wife still believes
01:10:43 in those
01:10:44 holidays so i i do as little as i can
01:10:47 get away with
01:10:48 so i don’t i’ll be honest
01:10:52 i don’t know how scripturally correct
01:10:53 that is
01:10:57 and it’s a struggle for me but i
01:11:00 i justify it to trying to keep you know
01:11:04 some some happiness in the family but
01:11:08 i will tell you i do try to say little
01:11:11 things here and there to
01:11:13 um tell my oldest son how i feel about i
01:11:16 don’t get into a lot of details whether
01:11:17 because
01:11:18 he’s five what does he know right i try
01:11:21 to tell him a little bit
01:11:23 but anyways
01:11:26 satan doesn’t want to go to court cause
01:11:27 he knows what the punishment is
01:11:30 just like the adulterous woman
01:11:33 she was caught in the very act where’s
01:11:35 the man the law
01:11:37 is against the man also not just the
01:11:39 woman
01:11:40 yeah he bailed interesting
01:11:43 um yeah and also i i mean this is
01:11:48 there’s a lot to this event but the
01:11:50 woman was not forgiven
01:11:54 and the reason why god didn’t accuse her
01:11:58 is for one he didn’t personally witness
01:12:00 it
01:12:02 in his morning he didn’t say neither do
01:12:04 i condemn thee
01:12:06 yeah but he was the judge
01:12:10 and the judges aren’t supposed to um
01:12:13 be a witness he couldn’t be a witness
01:12:15 even though he you know
01:12:17 god knows everything right um but there
01:12:20 was
01:12:20 no witnesses to condemn her
01:12:24 after he wrote on the ground which i i
01:12:27 i haven’t figured that part out yet i
01:12:29 don’t know what that is yet
01:12:32 but he was actually following torah
01:12:36 in that event
01:12:40 in that
01:12:44 the requirements to judge were not being
01:12:46 met and
01:12:47 one thing that i learned recently
01:12:50 probably partly
01:12:50 one of the reasons i was thinking about
01:12:52 it is that it had to be at the gates
01:12:54 they weren’t at the gates
01:12:56 because in torah it says those types of
01:12:58 judgments need to happen at the elders
01:13:00 at the gates
01:13:02 and the thing is those who brought him
01:13:05 knew that
01:13:06 and they were rejecting torah which is
01:13:09 rejecting christ
01:13:10 or the messiah and he
01:13:14 called them on that and i think they saw
01:13:16 that and they knew it
01:13:17 and that’s why they left
01:13:21 anyways i don’t have it all figured out
01:13:23 but because i
01:13:24 like i don’t know what the writing on
01:13:26 the ground is
01:13:28 but that’s an insight that i i think the
01:13:31 adulterous woman
01:13:32 represents us the church
01:13:36 and the one that we did it with is satan
01:13:38 and he didn’t come
01:13:39 on purpose and to me it makes sense
01:13:42 especially with hosanna
01:13:44 where he had or yeshua had
01:13:47 or yahweh which is joshua
01:13:51 had him mario adulterous woman and it’s
01:13:54 interesting though
01:13:55 on this point those who feel
01:13:58 you know some depression depression
01:14:00 comes from sin i mean
01:14:02 if you believe the scriptures that’s
01:14:03 what it states if you don’t want to
01:14:04 believe the scriptures you can argue all
01:14:05 you want but
01:14:06 that’s what causes depression
01:14:12 but
01:14:14 god told hosanna when your wife comes
01:14:17 back that adulterous
01:14:18 wife comes back treat her like a new
01:14:21 bride
01:14:22 like it never happened and that’s what
01:14:24 christ does to us
01:14:27 he forgives us immediately it doesn’t
01:14:29 take a year
01:14:30 with a bishop that’s
01:14:34 it’s immediate i have had it happen
01:14:39 and the book of mormon has tons of
01:14:40 examples of it
01:14:42 one i’ve written about is in bishops are
01:14:44 judges of israel i’ve written a bit
01:14:46 as you stated but alma the elder a young
01:14:50 younger he’s forgiven immediately in a
01:14:53 coma he did not meet with a bishop
01:14:57 and when he went around repenting from
01:14:59 place to place he wasn’t telling bishops
01:15:00 what their
01:15:01 what his sins were he was going to the
01:15:03 after
01:15:04 god forgave him he was doing all he can
01:15:07 to make recompense which is when you
01:15:10 have a broken heart and contrite spirit
01:15:12 you want to do
01:15:15 the steps of repentance happen after not
01:15:18 before
01:15:19 as the earliest church teaches
01:15:22 and that’s how god told hosanna
01:15:26 to treat his adulterous wife when she
01:15:29 was ugly
01:15:31 in her old age where all her beauty was
01:15:34 gone
01:15:36 to treat her like she was a new bride
01:15:39 like nothing happened
01:15:43 that’s how christ treats us
01:15:50 anyways as a little insight i had
01:15:54 yesterday it’s interesting
01:15:59 i hadn’t thought of i hadn’t thought of
01:16:00 doing the parallel with
01:16:02 hosea i mean that’s but i i mean that’s
01:16:05 definitely
01:16:06 uh well it’s an interesting insight
01:16:09 i believe it was given to me um but
01:16:15 how much emphasis are you do you put on
01:16:17 the the broken heart and contrite spirit
01:16:20 is that something it’s a requirement
01:16:22 it’s the only way that god can save
01:16:23 us yeah i mean i i can show you some
01:16:27 verses
01:16:28 if you want i oh no yeah yeah yeah yeah
01:16:31 no def
01:16:36 it’s a requirement and broken heart and
01:16:39 contrite spirit i believe
01:16:40 is a hebrew idiom for repentance
01:16:44 okay i i i don’t have a lot on this but
01:16:48 i have a few
01:16:48 [Music]
01:16:50 turning the heart turning the heart to
01:16:52 god
01:16:54 yeah um so
01:16:57 here’s one so that’s the one yeah
01:17:01 and then third third nephi chapter nine
01:17:04 uh
01:17:04 20. uh sure i’m sure there’s lighting a
01:17:07 lot
01:17:08 i haven’t i mean there’s a there’s it’s
01:17:10 all over i think it’s like there’s like
01:17:11 five different
01:17:12 there are five or six main passages oh
01:17:14 it’s all over the place
01:17:16 i i don’t have too many um notes on it
01:17:19 but
01:17:19 i’ve seen it all over myself i just
01:17:21 recently have started making
01:17:23 saving verses on it so i i don’t have
01:17:25 too much gotcha
01:17:26 yeah um you do the same thing i do
01:17:28 that’s what i do too is you know i’ll
01:17:30 take like a topic and then
01:17:31 i start collecting scriptures and
01:17:33 putting them together and i do that
01:17:36 i but i don’t do like i mean you you’ve
01:17:38 got like whole
01:17:39 i mean dude steve you’ve got like
01:17:42 there’s some
01:17:46 some of this this one with someone the
01:17:48 other day no
01:17:50 okay i think i have everyone in the book
01:17:51 of mormon
01:17:54 wow if i don’t have one that you know of
01:17:57 one tell it to me i’ll add it
01:17:59 okay okay but i oh well i have i wrote a
01:18:03 tool
01:18:03 that helps me and i give it out for free
01:18:08 everybody can have it okay yeah
01:18:11 yeah dude i’ll be honest it’s not the
01:18:13 most user-friendly
01:18:14 program but it it it’s effective and it
01:18:17 works
01:18:18 because yeah this index does not give
01:18:20 everything
01:18:22 and i i’d be interested in it i believe
01:18:25 they don’t give everything on purpose
01:18:28 but i can’t prove it but there are some
01:18:30 very interesting ones that they leave
01:18:31 out and they’ve changed it in 2013 and
01:18:35 they took second comforter stuff
01:18:36 out which yeah
01:18:40 yeah first is those who teaches anything
01:18:42 contrary to that
01:18:43 right um that’s butchering joseph’s
01:18:46 quote i should go
01:18:47 and go look up the exact quote if you
01:18:49 want but so you want it you guys want to
01:18:51 know something
01:18:52 interesting a lot of the okay so i
01:18:55 i served my mission in taiwan i speak
01:18:57 chinese
01:18:59 i tried it mandarin mandarin well
01:19:03 mandarin and my wife and i my wife’s
01:19:05 from mainland china so
01:19:07 my wife and i both speak mandarin and
01:19:09 we’re trying we’re
01:19:10 both trying to learn cantonese because
01:19:12 it’s it’s about as different as
01:19:14 uh french and english but that’s good
01:19:18 yeah i don’t want to get sidetracked but
01:19:20 no that um
01:19:22 the joseph smith translation is missing
01:19:25 stuff
01:19:26 um and it’s missing the passage oh i i
01:19:29 don’t think joe
01:19:30 jst is a hundred percent i do yeah
01:19:34 it’s good enough to help prevent a lot
01:19:36 of problems that are in the church
01:19:37 yeah yeah and i i have a
01:19:40 jst edition from byu which is
01:19:43 interesting
01:19:45 they are honest at how brigham young
01:19:47 hated
01:19:48 the jst because i believe it exposed his
01:19:51 flies
01:19:53 yeah that’s what’s that’s not me saying
01:19:55 yeah byu i mean i’m summarizing
01:19:58 and i can give a link to the actual
01:19:59 edition i have
01:20:02 there i can’t remember which exact which
01:20:04 and there’s a ton
01:20:06 you know the the really important stuff
01:20:08 uh
01:20:10 in um the j’s the the the jst i mean
01:20:13 they did get the
01:20:14 the portion on the second comforter
01:20:17 in in the bible dictionary they got that
01:20:20 in there
01:20:21 um i thought there’s the as far as i
01:20:23 understand they took some stuff out in
01:20:24 2013 on that
01:20:26 um yeah i’d have to look again
01:20:29 but anyways one in one i i i know your
01:20:33 opinion on 132 but there was uh there’s
01:20:35 the passage in 132 were sealed by
01:20:38 the holy spirit of promise the original
01:20:41 yeah that was originally a reference to
01:20:44 a footnote reference to jesus
01:20:46 and they i that i was
01:20:49 i don’t have an uh 2013
01:20:52 edition so i don’t i can’t you know
01:20:55 cooperate and say yeah
01:20:56 i would no you know i i’m against 132
01:20:59 and it’s a fraud section
01:21:00 right yeah it would be more referencing
01:21:04 the
01:21:04 the holy you know the sec the holy
01:21:07 second coming
01:21:10 right right because that’s where you get
01:21:12 the promise or your
01:21:13 calling election major which is kind of
01:21:15 the same thing but
01:21:16 it would be more along those lines um
01:21:20 but the other church has been changing
01:21:22 that doctrine i think slowly and surely
01:21:25 yeah they felt like they can get away
01:21:26 with it because as
01:21:28 people forget things they change things
01:21:31 yeah so the um
01:21:34 the jst john 6
01:21:39 uh john 6 44. oh hold on let me get it
01:21:42 says yeah where it says the the father’s
01:21:45 will is that
01:21:46 all receive jesus um no man can come
01:21:49 unto me except you do with the will
01:21:51 of my father who sent me sure this is
01:21:54 the will of
01:21:57 you won’t find that in the chinese
01:21:58 version of the jst
01:22:00 so the chinese people don’t have that
01:22:03 the the lds church doesn’t use a lot of
01:22:05 the jst
01:22:06 um yeah
01:22:10 there is a talk on here let me get a
01:22:12 talk that i really like about the jst
01:22:15 um yeah let me share it with you yeah
01:22:18 this is where
01:22:18 notes are really good right
01:22:23 do you do you use the uh thomas wayment
01:22:25 version
01:22:28 uh i don’t know oh he’s the
01:22:32 he’s one of the byu professors uh for
01:22:35 the new testament
01:22:36 i he he did the one
01:22:39 it’s like a two volume version of the
01:22:41 jst
01:22:42 that’s the one that was the only one i
01:22:44 could find
01:22:46 that was reasonably priced everything
01:22:48 else i have multiple
01:22:49 editions at the jst
01:22:56 because of this talk i’m trying to find
01:22:57 i’m going to buy another one when i get
01:22:59 home
01:22:59 too um gotcha uh
01:23:03 so this one this talk brings out
01:23:06 uh a reference or it
01:23:09 brings out the jst that she has which is
01:23:13 out of print but
01:23:14 i’m i i’m willing to pay money for it
01:23:17 um but it says it it
01:23:20 gives actual references to all the jsts
01:23:23 in talks and in the notes that joseph
01:23:26 smith did
01:23:28 and it gives actual references now the
01:23:30 reason that’s big for me one i think the
01:23:32 jst is very important but also
01:23:35 i think it exposes denver snuffer fraud
01:23:38 in that the scripture committee
01:23:42 claims they have more jst references
01:23:45 from talks and whatnot
01:23:46 from anybody and anywhere but they give
01:23:49 no references
01:23:51 i believe they use this book and claim
01:23:54 they did the research
01:23:55 themselves instead of giving credit
01:23:57 where credit is due
01:24:01 this book gets references to the talks
01:24:04 and
01:24:04 and it gives everything work snuff
01:24:07 rights just claim it and they’re good
01:24:11 what what’s the name of that book uh
01:24:12 steve that version
01:24:15 let me try to find the talk
01:24:19 yeah i’m
01:24:22 i have multiple jst notes it looks like
01:24:25 and i’m trying to find the right one i’m
01:24:27 sorry
01:24:29 hey no problem no problem that wouldn’t
01:24:31 that’s interesting that wouldn’t be the
01:24:33 first time they did that because the
01:24:35 you know the um the stuff right
01:24:38 the stuff yeah i’m anti-snuff right
01:24:42 about
01:24:47 i know gary and i met because of snuff
01:24:48 arrives um so i’ve got you know
01:24:51 okay um oh i certainly don’t like the
01:24:54 term snuffer rights but i
01:24:56 certainly am a part of that uh that
01:25:00 religious community well considering
01:25:02 snuff right snuffer
01:25:04 denver snuffer himself said the only
01:25:05 true mormons are him and his followers
01:25:08 i’m fine calling
01:25:10 him and his group sniffer rights i
01:25:13 don’t know what’s wrong i he said i’ve
01:25:16 heard talk that’s on youtube
01:25:17 that he and his followers are the only
01:25:20 ones that he considers
01:25:21 mormons i have heard him say that
01:25:24 he believes that our movements are the
01:25:27 only ones
01:25:27 on the earth that have the true
01:25:30 authority to baptize but i’ve never
01:25:32 heard him say that
01:25:33 we’re the only i’ve heard it i i’m not
01:25:36 gonna look for the talk
01:25:37 i’ll tell you that but
01:25:40 i
01:25:44 i mean i don’t want i i started meeting
01:25:45 with this nephrites because some
01:25:47 people i i tried to help me
01:25:51 wake up because i tried to help them
01:25:54 with some problems they were into
01:25:56 snuffer some
01:25:57 initially i saw some potential there but
01:26:00 as i studied the scriptures more i saw
01:26:02 lots of contradictions and i’ve written
01:26:04 about some
01:26:04 but anyways i i don’t want to get into
01:26:06 it too much out of respect for gotcha
01:26:09 yeah throw my blog on the blog
01:26:13 you can go yeah if you’ve if you can
01:26:15 find that that uh
01:26:17 talk on the uh jst translation i’d be
01:26:20 yeah i’m trying to find it um if i don’t
01:26:24 find it
01:26:24 now i’ll i’ll i’ll put it for you to
01:26:27 continue looking for and find it for you
01:26:30 um yeah thank you thank you i feel bad i
01:26:34 can’t remember her name
01:26:35 it was joshua’s wife
01:26:38 um
01:26:41 gary melissa sorry go ahead
01:26:45 yeah i gotta let me let me come right
01:26:47 back i’ve got a
01:26:48 i just had a pen blow up on me oh
01:26:51 no i’ll be right back let me clean up
01:26:56 okay charlotte and melissa yeah
01:26:59 charlotte that’s it that’s it i feel bad
01:27:01 i can’t remember her name but it’s hard
01:27:03 to remember
01:27:03 everything but she it’s her talk
01:27:07 that she did that i’m referencing that
01:27:09 she
01:27:11 um uh did on the jst we could
01:27:15 i i don’t know if you know but yeah
01:27:19 okay sorry i’ll i’ll be more questions
01:27:22 okay sorry i’ll be more quiet
01:27:26 but joshua and charlotte believe in
01:27:29 torah right we have some differences but
01:27:32 we do
01:27:33 believe we agree on the importance of
01:27:35 torah
01:27:37 yes and they do a conference and they’re
01:27:39 it was their last conference that
01:27:41 charlotte did a talk
01:27:43 um on the jst
01:27:46 and i thought it was wonderful
01:27:49 she feels like come back about that
01:27:51 didn’t do enough so it was by charlotte
01:27:53 josh’s wife that did it um they
01:27:57 josh and his wives believe in torah
01:28:02 which i agree with we have some
01:28:03 differences obviously because
01:28:05 they believe in polygamy and i do not
01:28:07 and there’s probably some other ones
01:28:10 not that i have it all figured out but
01:28:12 the thing that
01:28:13 i agree with them is that we’re trying
01:28:15 to figure out torah because there’s a
01:28:16 lot of
01:28:20 dogma around torah that um sure
01:28:23 that it misconstrues what it is
01:28:26 and all that when i first started
01:28:29 looking into torah because i
01:28:30 god gave it to me to believe and rob k
01:28:33 helped me a lot with that and
01:28:35 it’s in the book of mormon all over the
01:28:36 place in fact alma 37 is a prophecy
01:28:39 how torah is going to help people
01:28:42 recognize their sins again in alma 37
01:28:45 in fact torah is the small and simple
01:28:47 things
01:28:48 that is talked about in alma 37
01:28:52 but i mean go read the context it’s
01:28:54 torah
01:28:56 it’s the brass place what’s the brass
01:28:58 place it’s torah i mean it’s tanak
01:29:00 and so it’s more than just tour the
01:29:02 first fight books but um
01:29:04 the rest of the tanakh is based off of
01:29:06 the torah um
01:29:09 um anyways so they
01:29:13 believe in torah also i mean we have
01:29:15 some differences and i have some
01:29:16 differences from rob k and others in the
01:29:18 community but
01:29:19 the thing that’s we all agree on is it
01:29:22 it’s important and we need to figure
01:29:24 it out um where
01:29:27 sorry gary denver snuffers anti-torah
01:29:32 and i i do want to read this
01:29:37 um well
01:29:40 from john first john
01:29:44 i’ll share my screen
01:29:50 so new testament after the resurrection
01:29:54 of christ right
01:29:55 first john 2 and hereby we do know
01:29:59 that we know him if we keep his
01:30:02 commandments
01:30:04 he that saith i know him and keepeth not
01:30:07 his commandments
01:30:08 is a liar and the truth is not in him
01:30:12 and this is quoting isaiah but whosoever
01:30:16 keepeth his word
01:30:18 in him verily is the love of god
01:30:21 perfected
01:30:23 thereby know that you are in him
01:30:28 he that saith he abideth in him ought
01:30:30 himself also to walk even as he is
01:30:33 walked
01:30:36 people claim christ is our example
01:30:39 but then they say what he did doesn’t
01:30:41 apply to us
01:30:42 are you really trying to walk in his
01:30:44 example i would argue that you’re not
01:30:52 christ kept torah perfectly he’s our
01:30:55 example
01:30:56 if you want to be like christ what are
01:30:59 you going to do i
01:31:02 i personally find it pretty simple and
01:31:05 anyways i don’t have it all figured out
01:31:10 but i work at it
01:31:16 if christ really is our example what are
01:31:18 you going to do
01:31:20 you’re going to do what he did or make
01:31:24 excuses
01:31:26 i don’t think anybody denies christ kept
01:31:28 torah
01:31:31 you see our example or not what do you
01:31:34 think about
01:31:35 the um have you ever heard about the
01:31:38 concept of jesus actually being the
01:31:40 torah
01:31:41 yeah i agree with it john
01:31:45 john i found another one jesus christ
01:31:49 yeah oh the word yeah the word okay
01:31:52 the word on one flesh the word what did
01:31:55 christ say i’m the bread of life
01:31:57 what is the bread of life it’s the
01:31:58 scriptures
01:32:00 what what did christ say on the road to
01:32:02 damascus
01:32:04 you know the scriptures testify of me
01:32:06 they are about me
01:32:08 scriptures teach us how who christ is
01:32:12 so yeah alma 17-20 is a very interesting
01:32:17 uh passage
01:32:22 it’s a type of christ mortal ministry
01:32:26 and also uh in
01:32:29 in chapter 20 it talks about
01:32:36 what happens to the amtrak what causes
01:32:39 that
01:32:39 christ to come after the antichrist is
01:32:42 when
01:32:43 they don’t allow um
01:32:46 god’s people to worship him his way to
01:32:49 let them choose
01:32:50 we can go look at that if you want i can
01:32:53 go
01:32:54 find the actual verse and expound upon
01:32:56 that
01:32:58 um hold on it’s been a little while
01:33:01 since i’ve
01:33:03 did that verse but it goes along with
01:33:05 the subject
01:33:07 but anyway alma 17-20
01:33:10 is a type of christ mortal ministry
01:33:14 and um what he’s doing
01:33:17 getting ready um
01:33:20 turning hither okay so ammon and they
01:33:23 were journeying the father when i said
01:33:24 why not come to defeat so interest
01:33:27 so this is interesting so there’s pagan
01:33:30 feasts
01:33:31 and in god’s face i mean the feasts are
01:33:34 never called juice feasts
01:33:35 in the scriptures like people claim
01:33:37 they’re called yahweh’s
01:33:39 feasts they’re never called jesus feasts
01:33:42 i mean we can look at liberty get us 23
01:33:43 if you want but we’re getting
01:33:44 sidetracked more
01:33:47 but it’s interesting when lemhi
01:33:49 converted on the lord
01:33:51 he didn’t go to his father’s feast
01:33:54 [Music]
01:33:55 the pagan feast
01:33:59 uh whether nephi children of a liar and
01:34:02 uh
01:34:03 and lemon rehearsed i told him to call
01:34:06 the tearing up kingdom
01:34:10 now the father might command him that he
01:34:12 should slay laven
01:34:13 i mean evan sorry
01:34:23 [Music]
01:34:26 he doesn’t go up to the he stays working
01:34:30 uh say uh
01:34:33 lamanhi from his father
01:34:36 because his father was going to try to
01:34:38 kill him because
01:34:39 um god’s commandments
01:34:44 but ammon said unless you let your son
01:34:47 worship god his way god’s way i’ll kill
01:34:50 you
01:34:53 and what happens when satan doesn’t let
01:34:57 us god’s worshipper worship god his way
01:35:01 he’s bound for a thousand years
01:35:06 it’s when the mark of the beast fully
01:35:08 gets implemented
01:35:10 that then god bounds
01:35:14 satan
01:35:21 ahead and said these words the king
01:35:22 rejoiced okay now evan saw they had
01:35:24 wrought upon the old king and quartering
01:35:26 desires and he said unto him if that
01:35:27 will
01:35:28 grant unto my brethren may be cast out
01:35:31 of prison so let my people go
01:35:33 right and that also the lamoni
01:35:36 may retain his kingdom and that you not
01:35:39 be displeased with him but grant that he
01:35:41 may do
01:35:42 according to his own desires agency
01:35:46 to worship god and whatever thing he
01:35:48 think is then i will spare thee
01:35:51 otherwise i will smite thee to the earth
01:35:56 when satan does not allow the saints of
01:35:59 god
01:36:00 to worship yahweh in his ways
01:36:05 it is a little season after that that he
01:36:09 is bound for a thousand years
01:36:11 just like ammon is putting right here
01:36:15 right there just like it’s coming
01:36:20 it’s coming i don’t believe in my
01:36:22 lifetime and thus your
01:36:24 lifetime it’s coming what will you do
01:36:33 we’ve certainly got something coming
01:36:36 yeah no doubt well
01:36:39 he’s going to be saying he’s going to be
01:36:40 trying to force us to do false worship
01:36:42 which is the mark it’s all about
01:36:46 false worship and true worship
01:36:52 how are we sealed gods according to
01:36:55 scriptures
01:36:56 by keeping his sabbaths and i said
01:36:58 plural on purpose
01:36:59 and fyi
01:37:03 dc89 says sabbas
01:37:08 and we can go double check let’s make
01:37:11 sure i’m not
01:37:12 giving false doctrine here
01:37:23 why isn’t the search working yeah
01:37:29 oh no it’s sacrements i
01:37:32 i remember wrong sorry
01:37:36 sacraments sacrament it’s it’s plural
01:37:40 though that that’s
01:37:41 i got a little mixed up sorry about that
01:37:43 anyways there’s sabbaths
01:37:45 there’s many appointed days the weekly
01:37:47 one is just one
01:37:48 there’s new moves and then there’s the
01:37:50 seven piece
01:37:53 so there’s nine um
01:37:57 you know that’s interesting they say
01:37:58 nine planets
01:38:00 or if there’s a connection to that
01:38:02 anyways
01:38:03 uh but the sign
01:38:07 between us and god that we’re his is
01:38:10 that we keep his sabbaths
01:38:13 i mean god tells us to have parties
01:38:18 people don’t keep god’s parties
01:38:22 he said they keep the pagan ones
01:38:28 anyways sorry i’m getting sidetracked
01:38:31 but um
01:38:35 yeah i the mark of the beast to me
01:38:38 with my studies it’s it’s false worship
01:38:46 i would say that it is pledging
01:38:49 allegiance to this coming
01:38:51 new world order government uh because
01:38:54 if you can’t buy or sell
01:38:58 uh you’re not participating in this
01:39:00 government system
01:39:01 in order to uh participate in this
01:39:05 cashless
01:39:05 society that’s coming well and so
01:39:09 i i’ve heard that theory and i’ve
01:39:12 believed in the past i’m not sure
01:39:14 about it now because the earlier
01:39:17 chapters of revelation
01:39:18 bring out that true worship is buying
01:39:21 and selling
01:39:22 so um
01:39:26 i can see if i can find the verbs i i
01:39:29 don’t know it off top my head
01:39:30 so um but let’s see if the study helps
01:39:34 can help let’s see if nothing else i can
01:39:37 use my tool
01:39:38 for buy right so let’s
01:39:42 let’s see if we can find that first all
01:39:45 right
01:39:46 in revelation talking about buying it
01:39:48 earlier
01:39:49 it’s not the one about you can’t buy or
01:39:51 sell that’s later that people use
01:39:53 to say that’s part of the sign and
01:39:57 i
01:40:00 without considering this other verse i
01:40:03 think there’s some merit to it but
01:40:04 lately i don’t know how much merit there
01:40:06 is with taking this earlier
01:40:08 chapter into context um
01:40:11 because it it talks about buying and
01:40:13 selling earlier in revelation that
01:40:15 people don’t talk about
01:40:17 and the only reason i became aware to is
01:40:19 because of a talk i listened to on
01:40:21 youtube on it
01:40:22 so it’s not something i found on my own
01:40:24 it’s something that someone out brought
01:40:26 out to my attention
01:40:28 but let’s see if i can find the verse
01:40:37 huh oh my
01:40:44 oh they only have one in revelations um
01:40:48 and that’s not going to be the one so
01:40:50 you see here the index
01:40:52 of the lds is not full and complete
01:40:56 let’s get my tool that here i’ll share
01:40:58 my screen of my tool
01:41:00 you can um
01:41:03 you’ll see how i use it i use it inside
01:41:05 of my studio
01:41:08 i’m a software engineer by trade so
01:41:14 the program i use the most in my life is
01:41:17 visual studio
01:41:20 let me see what that looks like because
01:41:22 that’s just where i use my tool
01:41:28 hold on it’s it’s loading it takes a
01:41:30 little bit
01:41:36 ah it’s been busy it’s a big program
01:41:39 it takes a while to load sorry
01:41:52 well i can start sharing my screens
01:42:01 oh that’s weird why isn’t it going all
01:42:03 the way down
01:42:06 oh that’s i don’t want to share that
01:42:09 that’s silly
01:42:11 okay give me one minute it’s
01:42:15 it’s full right now for some reason
01:42:18 sorry
01:42:20 we’ll find the verse hold on
01:42:24 well let’s try internet search while
01:42:27 that’s trying to load
01:42:41 oh okay it just started
01:42:45 it got jealous because it started as
01:42:46 soon as i went to
01:42:55 let’s search do by
01:43:05 by supposed to have two b’s in it uh so
01:43:08 the initial so regex the slash
01:43:11 b is saying start of a word boundary ah
01:43:14 okay
01:43:15 it’s my program’s using regex so
01:43:18 a good notice though
01:43:27 look at that all right so
01:43:31 let’s go find revelation
01:43:37 okay so there’s three verses
01:43:41 let me do something that makes it a
01:43:44 format so it doesn’t go off the line
01:43:45 except
01:43:46 program sucks at formatting for reading
01:43:50 [Music]
01:43:51 um one second
01:44:02 i’ll share
01:44:15 [Music]
01:44:19 all right so let’s go see so it’s in
01:44:22 three places
01:44:23 not just two um
01:44:26 cancel id to buy um gold
01:44:30 type tried in the fire so that’s a
01:44:34 tried in a fire right a
01:44:37 refiner’s fire has to do with how we’re
01:44:40 becoming more like christ
01:44:41 and i i would wonder if that’s what
01:44:44 that’s referring to
01:44:45 just off my head but thou mays be rich
01:44:49 um now rich and what right
01:44:53 poor in spirit when we’re poor and go to
01:44:56 christ he makes us rich
01:44:58 white raiment white raiment seems like
01:45:00 it goes along with
01:45:01 the righteousness because it’s his
01:45:03 garment now that we’re
01:45:04 wearing the white raiment the white the
01:45:07 white diamond
01:45:09 garment of righteousness that thou
01:45:11 mayest be clothed
01:45:14 and that the shame of thy nakedness
01:45:20 we’re naked when you don’t have christ
01:45:21 right
01:45:23 and we’re clothed when we have christ
01:45:26 do not appear because
01:45:31 anyways i’m sure you agree with that
01:45:34 with me
01:45:35 if not we can get into it
01:45:38 and anoint my eyes with
01:45:42 ice love but thou may see i’m
01:45:47 not sure what that refers to other than
01:45:49 you know used to hear an icc
01:45:51 would be my initial thought but i i
01:45:54 don’t know what i say
01:45:56 is but it’s interesting i canceled thee
01:45:59 to buy the gold
01:46:03 tried in the fire right there’s
01:46:05 purchasing
01:46:06 and that sounds a lot like becoming like
01:46:10 like christ in that um context in that
01:46:12 verse gold tried and the fire would be
01:46:14 refined
01:46:17 yeah the refiner’s fire all right
01:46:20 um blacksmiths
01:46:25 they put us put metal on fire to refine
01:46:28 it
01:46:29 right uh that’s partly why if we’re not
01:46:32 hot enough
01:46:33 we’re spewed out because we’re not
01:46:36 changing
01:46:36 if we’re lukewarm we’re not changing
01:46:39 becoming like christ
01:46:40 that’s why we’re spit out of his mouth
01:46:45 he’d rather have us be one or the other
01:46:47 not somewhere in the middle where we
01:46:48 can’t make up her mind we’re on the
01:46:49 fence
01:46:52 warm all right so revelations 13
01:46:55 17 and that no man might
01:46:58 buy or sell say he had the mark or the
01:47:01 name of the beast or the memory
01:47:04 that’s the one that most people bring
01:47:05 out right right
01:47:07 you if you get rid of cash then you have
01:47:10 to be a part of
01:47:11 government’s banking system well you
01:47:14 know
01:47:15 how am i how am i
01:47:18 not using cash part of the government’s
01:47:21 i can come out right how when i’m using
01:47:23 cash am i not part of the
01:47:25 government’s banking system
01:47:29 it doesn’t matter if it’s bitcoin or
01:47:30 paper
01:47:33 all right well if you’re bartering with
01:47:35 bitcoin then you’re not
01:47:37 using you’re part of the government’s
01:47:39 banking system
01:47:40 currently yes but governments are
01:47:43 working on
01:47:44 having their own uh coinless system but
01:47:47 that is true um i i
01:47:52 i don’t believe that bitcoin or any
01:47:55 digital
01:47:58 coin is part of the mark of the beast
01:48:00 personally
01:48:01 i never have um if it is
01:48:04 doing billing buying and selling i mean
01:48:06 how long have we had credit cards
01:48:08 those are cashless and they have
01:48:12 computers as people claim right
01:48:15 i mean barcodes have six six in them
01:48:18 already
01:48:19 i’m not kidding barcodes start with six
01:48:21 in the middle of six
01:48:22 and end with six i i know some of these
01:48:25 i may not know them all
01:48:26 i just i don’t buy that
01:48:29 excuse the pies i don’t believe that’s
01:48:33 what’s going on i believe it’s false
01:48:34 worship i mean we can go
01:48:36 look at revelations 13 in a little bit
01:48:39 but let’s look at this 18
01:48:40 one real quick but that that’s the one
01:48:43 that people quote right
01:48:44 all the time saying sure right
01:48:48 but 1811. and the merchants of the ursa
01:48:52 we’ve been worn
01:48:52 over her for no man buyeth
01:48:56 their merchandise anymore so
01:49:00 i don’t know the context of 18 off top
01:49:02 my head
01:49:04 we would have to go look but people
01:49:06 don’t stop buying especially the world
01:49:08 they didn’t stop buying
01:49:10 so why is they saying they because most
01:49:12 of the
01:49:13 most of the world is deceived whatever
01:49:15 this system is
01:49:18 the satan’s most of the world is bought
01:49:20 into but
01:49:21 now the merchants are sorry we’d have to
01:49:24 go look at
01:49:25 revelations 18. i don’t so which one do
01:49:28 you guys want to go look into
01:49:30 3 13 or 18.
01:49:34 don’t remember me i’m game
01:49:37 i’m more interested in the 18 one right
01:49:39 now because i don’t know
01:49:54 but the three is interesting right
01:49:56 because it
01:49:57 can’t go with what is typically said
01:50:00 about
01:50:00 buying and selling that i think we can
01:50:03 agree on
01:50:04 you know the question that we need to
01:50:06 really dig
01:50:07 into if we’re going to get dig into this
01:50:09 is how much is
01:50:10 3 related to 13 if i remember
01:50:14 the chapter right anyways
01:50:17 so ah look at this
01:50:21 so the conkey’s heading right this is
01:50:24 mcconkie
01:50:27 bruce armankonk is opinion about this
01:50:29 chapter
01:50:30 which sometimes are good and sometimes
01:50:31 bad but we’ll discard it right now
01:50:33 the saints are called out of babylon
01:50:35 unless they’re particular saying she
01:50:36 falls and limits their
01:50:38 fighter support now if the saints those
01:50:41 who don’t take the mark
01:50:45 can’t buy and sell
01:50:49 but there are few why are the merchants
01:50:52 in
01:50:53 verse 11 crying
01:50:56 because the world’s bombing this says
01:50:58 it’s bad the saints that are called out
01:51:00 of babylon not the world
01:51:04 um there’s a good one to start with
01:51:07 though because here
01:51:07 here’s the one that says they’re weaving
01:51:11 right if anything just sounds like it’s
01:51:14 more like like what isn’t
01:51:15 three
01:51:18 uh so and after these things i saw
01:51:20 another angel come down from heaven
01:51:22 having great power and greatness
01:51:24 enlightened with his glory and cried my
01:51:26 little voice babylon
01:51:28 his great is gone okay so babylon’s
01:51:31 fallen
01:51:33 so maybe that’s why they’re reaping
01:51:34 because they’re uh
01:51:36 wanting um that on the system and it’s
01:51:39 not there anymore so that’s a
01:51:40 possibility
01:51:41 for all nations was drunk in the wine of
01:51:44 the wrath of her
01:51:45 fornication the king’s earth have
01:51:48 committed for occasion weather and the
01:51:49 merchants of earth are waxed
01:51:51 rich through the abundance of her
01:51:53 declines so
01:51:55 emergence which
01:51:58 possibly in the context could be for
01:52:01 babylon’s prophets right
01:52:02 because who’s who’s peddling
01:52:06 the prophets so they’re
01:52:13 hold on
01:52:19 [Music]
01:52:26 there’s a site i like um did i come
01:52:29 across
01:52:30 recently i’m trying to
01:52:33 ah this guy
01:52:41 so i don’t agree with this guy on
01:52:42 everything
01:52:45 but this guy has a website about the
01:52:48 book of revelations that
01:52:49 is on my to-do to read because i’ve read
01:52:51 some of his articles from it
01:52:52 that i actually like i’ll share the link
01:52:57 he is very worthwhile looking into
01:53:01 um there’s that
01:53:05 i don’t know what he says about this
01:53:06 subject but
01:53:08 we can just keep looking i just pop them
01:53:10 on here is that that
01:53:12 oh is that that guy that he’s a seventh
01:53:15 uh seventh day adventist
01:53:19 no no this guy’s not a seventh grader
01:53:22 okay the video i showed earlier about
01:53:24 babylon
01:53:26 and america one he’s a seventh day i
01:53:28 like that video but i don’t like him for
01:53:30 other things
01:53:31 yeah gotcha but here’s the article
01:53:36 or i think this is the right one
01:53:39 oh no that’s not the right one hold on
01:53:41 let me get the right one
01:53:55 i have noted various areas
01:54:12 oh is that one
01:54:24 i don’t know uh yeah they’re
01:54:27 so that last one is the one i like and
01:54:28 that’s that’s the book i’m reading right
01:54:31 now
01:54:31 um so just a quick
01:54:35 summary so you know where i’m coming
01:54:36 from
01:54:39 there most of christodom
01:54:43 thinks that the 70th week of daniel has
01:54:46 not happened yet i disagree
01:54:48 and i believe the book of mormon
01:54:49 disagrees i believe
01:54:51 the 70th week
01:54:54 in the middle of it was when christ did
01:54:56 its atonement
01:54:58 and then three and a half years later is
01:55:00 when paul started taking the gospel to
01:55:02 the gentiles
01:55:04 and i believe the book of mormon
01:55:05 supports that in multiple areas but
01:55:07 we’re getting sidetracked but that’s the
01:55:09 book
01:55:09 the last one on daniel is the one this
01:55:11 site that i like
01:55:13 but the one above that on the revelation
01:55:16 is
01:55:16 from that same guy that i like a lot of
01:55:18 his stuff no
01:55:20 i don’t like everything but he has some
01:55:22 good insights
01:55:24 um so you want to get into revelations
01:55:28 which is something i’m getting more into
01:55:32 but not enough yeah because i’m
01:55:34 stumbling here but i’m trying to give
01:55:35 you some resources too
01:55:37 uh he’s he’s really good in my opinion
01:55:41 um he doesn’t know about the book of
01:55:44 mormon
01:55:45 but the reason i looked into them is
01:55:48 because some things because of this 70
01:55:49 week daniel site
01:55:51 has some things that i believe is
01:55:54 confirmed by the book of mormon
01:55:56 which is why i believe the 70th week has
01:55:58 actually happened
01:56:00 contrary to what most people say
01:56:01 nowadays
01:56:03 um okay sorry about that sidetrack
01:56:06 let’s go back i forget where we were
01:56:08 [Music]
01:56:09 i heard a voice from kevin come out of
01:56:12 her ah
01:56:14 this is i should remember this so
01:56:18 god told me to remove my name from the
01:56:20 eldest church
01:56:22 and here is god saying to his people
01:56:25 come out of the churches of the world
01:56:30 i king nelson recently said
01:56:34 the pope is a very righteous man are you
01:56:36 kidding me
01:56:39 he’s the most wicked man the only reason
01:56:41 someone
01:56:42 would call the pope righteous is because
01:56:44 he’s wicked
01:56:45 also i don’t have a high opinion i’ve
01:56:50 written about him
01:56:52 subject so i have more to write about
01:56:53 too negative
01:56:59 oh i better not say this since this is
01:57:01 recording
01:57:02 here i’ll pause it for a minute hold on
01:57:04 okay
01:57:06 okay it’s paused so in the group of guys
01:57:10 that i run with uh
01:57:12 when we’re talking about uh president
01:57:14 nelson and
01:57:15 you know his foibles and
01:57:19 stephanie gets involved with we and you
01:57:21 disclose it to somebody for the first
01:57:23 time
01:57:24 it’s called putting somebody in the full
01:57:26 nelson
01:57:28 [Laughter]
01:57:31 and so we we lovingly call it the full
01:57:34 nelson
01:57:35 yeah i i think you could say that
01:57:38 i’ll record it but it’s up to you
01:57:42 but you know
01:57:43 [Music]
01:57:47 that’s funny that’s funny
01:57:52 [Music]
01:58:01 well i i
01:58:04 i’m out there i i have written articles
01:58:07 about it
01:58:08 i don’t believe nelson but i believe
01:58:10 he’s
01:58:11 promoting bad things and i’ve written
01:58:13 about it so
01:58:14 yeah anyways um
01:58:20 there’s one you know i i think we’ll see
01:58:23 a sign
01:58:26 of what kind of a true prophet he is
01:58:29 you know being a false prophet when he
01:58:32 comes out
01:58:32 and tells the members of the lds church
01:58:37 to be good global citizens what you
01:58:40 already have
01:58:42 go and get the vaccine he already has
01:58:45 oh he did he did yeah his message on
01:58:48 friday
01:58:49 well i mean he said the mask up i
01:58:51 thought but he didn’t did he come out
01:58:53 in in the did he say get the vaccine
01:58:55 well
01:58:58 i i don’t know of exactly those words
01:59:01 but you know it’s
01:59:02 it’s in there it’s in there oh okay
01:59:05 i think when we see that i think that’s
01:59:08 that
01:59:09 you know well i mean obviously
01:59:13 you know there’s other things i’ll have
01:59:14 to read your articles the church already
01:59:16 endorses vaccines
01:59:17 they made me someone who stayed in the
01:59:20 states
01:59:21 take vaccines there’s a requirement
01:59:24 oh right right when we go on missions
01:59:27 and stuff
01:59:28 to get the peanut butter spouts money to
01:59:31 give
01:59:32 not food to children or starving but
01:59:35 money to give them vaccines
01:59:38 now what is their problem
01:59:42 feeding the poor or the pharmaceutical
01:59:45 industry
01:59:47 oh wait i know what they have stocks in
01:59:49 sorry
01:59:53 real farmers really oh yeah they have
01:59:56 the puns and this load of their um
02:00:01 stock investments pharmaceuticals
02:00:04 yeah i mean that’s i i would say why
02:00:07 they’re against the
02:00:09 medical marijuana even though the
02:00:10 scriptures say it’s good for you
02:00:13 we have non-descriptions on them you
02:00:14 want to see them the healing herbs
02:00:18 because of the many good healing herbs
02:00:21 that was
02:00:21 i can’t remember where it is i yeah yeah
02:00:25 bring it out
02:00:26 [Laughter]
02:00:33 i i i’ll be honest i don’t know how
02:00:36 anybody
02:00:37 believes in the earliest churches claims
02:00:39 when they actually study the scriptures
02:00:42 i mean look here’s the norm we talked
02:00:45 about how jesus smith talks about
02:00:47 herbal medicine which actually yeah the
02:00:49 dnc says
02:00:50 and what does the church say go to your
02:00:53 pharmaceutical
02:00:55 yeah don’t worry about blessings in fact
02:00:57 have faith
02:00:58 not to be healed by priesthood
02:01:01 right oh my gosh you see that one is
02:01:04 like oh
02:01:04 what in the hell
02:01:08 right thank you what the hell like
02:01:12 really have the faith to not be healed
02:01:15 talk about unscriptural yeah
02:01:20 because yeah there it is right there the
02:01:21 alma the second one because of the
02:01:23 excellent quality of the many plants and
02:01:25 roots which
02:01:27 let’s go into it more right now you’re
02:01:29 not faith to be healed
02:01:30 believe be nourished by all tenderness
02:01:33 by herbs
02:01:37 what’s that yeah what’s that augmented
02:01:40 alcoholic
02:01:42 oh really i’ll prove it to you i’ll
02:01:44 bring up a dictionary nice oh yeah
02:01:46 i believe you but yeah yeah yeah i don’t
02:01:49 think
02:01:50 so like uh kombucha and uh that kind of
02:01:53 stuff
02:01:54 yeah okay
02:01:57 i and i’ll bring up the site instead of
02:01:59 showing my notes so that way
02:02:00 people know i’m not just pulling smoke
02:02:15 i could spell
02:02:21 okay
02:02:24 [Music]
02:02:28 there we go that oh it’s liquor not
02:02:30 alcohol
02:02:31 yeah mild liquor mild catastrophic
02:02:35 multiplying liquor and you know what
02:02:38 science says
02:02:39 fermented food and drinks which you know
02:02:42 what ferment is
02:02:43 alcoholic is good for you
02:02:49 dc89 mild barley
02:02:53 mild barley drinks yup
02:02:56 mild liquor and what is beer it’s mild
02:03:00 liquor
02:03:03 anyways cool
02:03:06 alcohol is good for men i mean don’t get
02:03:09 carried away
02:03:10 but yeah yeah yeah i’ve studied it
02:03:12 there’s a lot of healing properties
02:03:15 to fermentation you know your bread is
02:03:17 alcoholic
02:03:18 i’m not kidding you yeah because the
02:03:20 yeast
02:03:22 yeah the yeast sorry i’ll shut up
02:03:25 yeah that’s exactly what i was going to
02:03:27 say the yeast is a key ingredient in it
02:03:30 so of course it is
02:03:31 yeah it’s alcoholic
02:03:34 but according to church you can’t have
02:03:36 alcohol so you can’t eat
02:03:38 bread you cannot have the step of life
02:03:40 that represents christ
02:03:41 and his word according to elders church
02:03:44 yeah
02:03:47 they don’t know what in the world
02:03:48 they’re talking about
02:03:51 i’ve spent a lot of effort unlearning
02:03:53 the crap i’ve been there anyways
02:03:56 all right anyways mild food the side
02:03:59 side note guys
02:04:00 so here’s so i don’t know how much you
02:04:03 guys follow
02:04:05 since we’re on this topic of of you know
02:04:08 marijuana and medicinal medicinal
02:04:10 purposes and you know cbd oil and stuff
02:04:13 um
02:04:14 the psilocybin mushrooms you know that
02:04:17 that they’re
02:04:18 in low doses they’re you know that have
02:04:20 been shown to
02:04:21 help people with mental certain mental
02:04:23 disorders and stuff
02:04:25 so i i personally don’t believe
02:04:29 mushrooms are kosher um it’s debatable
02:04:32 with that community that are kosher so
02:04:36 i can give you an article that i believe
02:04:38 uh it’s
02:04:39 presents a very good case for that uh
02:04:43 and i i keep biblical kosher laws i
02:04:46 don’t keep jewish
02:04:47 traditions jews say you can’t eat milk
02:04:50 and
02:04:51 cheese together the scriptures don’t say
02:04:53 that the scripture says you don’t boil
02:04:55 a kid in his mother’s milk and it’s
02:04:57 something there’s milk right
02:04:59 and that’s a pagan practice and all
02:05:01 throughout the scriptures
02:05:02 god tells us not to do things as the
02:05:04 pagans do
02:05:06 sure buoyant uh kid and smother milk is
02:05:09 the pagan practice
02:05:11 and there’s archaeological evidence that
02:05:13 shows that
02:05:16 so a general rule of thumb
02:05:19 the jews add to the law christians take
02:05:22 away from the law
02:05:24 they both have problems they’re just
02:05:25 slightly different
02:05:27 absolutely different okay um anyways is
02:05:30 that
02:05:30 is the reason they don’t take mushrooms
02:05:32 or i mean not not
02:05:34 they don’t eat mushrooms is because
02:05:36 we’ll eat mushrooms
02:05:38 orthodox cheese too um i won’t because i
02:05:41 don’t believe it’s kosher i i can give
02:05:42 you an article on it
02:05:44 um sure although i mean it yeah
02:05:47 what i was going to say is uh oregon has
02:05:50 just passed
02:05:51 a law basically uh allowing all drugs
02:05:56 are now legal in in
02:05:59 in oregon and what what’ll end up
02:06:01 happening is
02:06:03 uh they’re already talking about putting
02:06:04 it on washington’s uh
02:06:08 uh you know the vote on it next year
02:06:11 so usually what ends up happening after
02:06:14 washington
02:06:15 passes something is that colorado will
02:06:17 follow
02:06:18 and then california and then right after
02:06:21 that then utah is
02:06:23 soon to follow so i
02:06:26 yeah i
02:06:30 in some ways i think it’s better than
02:06:32 the pharmaceuticals
02:06:34 but i with this first this article right
02:06:37 here
02:06:38 which i’m sure yeah i i believe they’re
02:06:41 not
02:06:41 um kosher because there’s i see right
02:06:44 there okay they’re decomposing
02:06:46 it’s not directly said in the scriptures
02:06:49 though so it is
02:06:50 you know take it with a grain of salt
02:06:52 but it is what i believe
02:06:54 um but i don’t push it right because
02:06:56 it’s not direction
02:06:57 [Music]
02:06:59 but an interesting point on kosher lds
02:07:02 leaders actually used to teach
02:07:04 kosher laws were more important than
02:07:06 what wisdom was
02:07:08 interesting so like here’s one from uh
02:07:11 brigham young if people were willing to
02:07:13 serious true knowledge from heaven
02:07:15 in regards to their diet they would
02:07:18 cease eating swine splash
02:07:19 i know this as well as moses knew it
02:07:22 that’s kosher
02:07:24 eating pork is more serious breach of
02:07:27 the word of wisdom than drinking tea or
02:07:29 coffee
02:07:30 wow we are told that swine flush is not
02:07:34 good
02:07:35 and that we should dispense with it
02:07:39 it’s interesting so in general
02:07:43 the the further you back or the closer
02:07:46 to joseph smith the more truth you can
02:07:47 get
02:07:48 and i mean obviously this i still think
02:07:50 this is so twisted
02:07:52 because you know you shouldn’t be
02:07:53 drinking tea or coffee
02:07:55 joseph smith drinking coffee brigham
02:07:57 young
02:08:00 tries to use a lie that emma
02:08:03 was trying to kill joseph smith by
02:08:04 poisoning his coffee
02:08:06 the only way that would hold any weight
02:08:08 in people’s minds is if joseph smith
02:08:10 actually drank
02:08:12 coffee i mean i don’t believe the quote
02:08:14 from joseph smith
02:08:15 but it’s interesting it shows that
02:08:19 joseph smith
02:08:20 drank coffee and the
02:08:23 belgius church claims that joseph smith
02:08:25 and i believe this
02:08:26 would keep god’s word no matter what
02:08:29 right after he learned his
02:08:30 lesson with the 116 pages which he
02:08:33 learned a lesson on
02:08:34 i don’t think he was perfect
02:08:38 but when it contradicts what they
02:08:41 believe they’re silent on him joseph
02:08:45 smith
02:08:45 drank tea and coffee
02:08:51 i like to eat not so much on coffee yeah
02:08:54 but
02:08:54 it yeah it takes a good getting used to
02:08:58 yeah i’m with you on the coffee i i i
02:09:01 drink a lot of tea
02:09:03 here since we’re on the subject i i’m
02:09:06 we’re getting sidetracked but
02:09:07 i i love you it just
02:09:11 shows the problem with the elias
02:09:13 changing
02:09:14 [Music]
02:09:16 um traditions
02:09:19 i mean uh here’s the one i want
02:09:22 okay so get this we are told
02:09:26 very plainly to you that hot drinks
02:09:29 coffee tea
02:09:31 hot chocolate coke
02:09:34 and drinks of this kind are not good for
02:09:36 men we are also told that alcohol drinks
02:09:38 are not good
02:09:40 no that’s wrong and tobacco either
02:09:43 smoked or too dizzy we’re
02:09:44 told that swine’s flesh oh ah that’s
02:09:47 another kosher one
02:09:48 or is that part of them anyways it’s not
02:09:50 good that we should dispense oh that’s
02:09:52 part of that one and we’re
02:09:54 told that flesh of any kind is not
02:09:56 suitable to man
02:09:57 in the summertime oh we could talk about
02:09:59 that the lds church
02:10:00 actually modified dnc 89 and that’s
02:10:03 another subject
02:10:06 uh if we feed our children properly we
02:10:10 missed for them not to drink
02:10:12 liquor hot drinks or oh get this get
02:10:15 biscuit this
02:10:16 hot soups hot soups you can’t hurry
02:10:20 really
02:10:21 according to the lds interpretation
02:10:25 no more soups for you hey that reminds
02:10:28 me of seinfeld
02:10:29 no soup for you sorry no soup
02:10:32 the soup nazi yeah
02:10:35 hey you know they copied the earliest
02:10:38 [Music]
02:10:40 church
02:10:42 [Music]
02:10:46 [Laughter]
02:10:50 no soup for you
02:10:53 oh hey
02:10:56 [Music]
02:10:59 i uh oh we were looking
02:11:03 i don’t know where do you want to should
02:11:04 we go back to health stuff or do you
02:11:05 want to go back to revelations
02:11:07 we’re going all over the place
02:11:10 [Laughter]
02:11:14 because i’m gonna have to drop off
02:11:16 around nine o’clock so i’ve got about
02:11:18 another 12 minutes
02:11:20 oh yeah you know uh the old testament
02:11:24 says
02:11:24 uh why it makes your heart happy
02:11:27 and glad and joseph smith reported that
02:11:30 at parties
02:11:34 as far as i know he drank wine right huh
02:11:38 as far as i know he drank wine no he did
02:11:41 yeah very very but not he was murdered
02:11:46 no there’s a quote about liberty to
02:11:48 build it
02:11:50 he came
02:11:54 before he died to the jailers it wasn’t
02:11:56 for sacrament
02:12:00 anyways that’s a whole other subject you
02:12:02 know the book of mormon
02:12:03 oh the righteous drank wine
02:12:07 in the book of mormon god
02:12:12 made wine out of nothing to give the
02:12:14 sacrament in 13 by 18.
02:12:17 right right you can make water
02:12:20 you need wine
02:12:25 so have you seen the maine where it you
02:12:27 know in the water section there’s wine
02:12:29 and they talk about how christ was there
02:12:31 right because of the wedding yeah
02:12:35 [Music]
02:12:37 so god anyways that’s a whole other
02:12:40 subject
02:12:42 yeshua drink wine it’s in the new
02:12:45 testament you drink wine right
02:12:48 oh he okay so what do you make of the
02:12:51 fact that the
02:12:51 followers of john the baptist did not
02:12:54 but the followers
02:12:55 of the disciples of jesus did were they
02:13:00 massachusetts
02:13:10 that’s not a requirement and even on
02:13:12 that oath it’s just for a year
02:13:15 paul took it too in the new testament
02:13:18 he i mean this is where one of the
02:13:20 things that shows that
02:13:21 paul kept torah and paul’s a whole
02:13:24 another subject
02:13:25 right and towards him right but he he
02:13:27 did the sacrifices
02:13:29 in the new testament required at the
02:13:30 ending of the nazirite bow
02:13:33 which isn’t what it’s in torah he kept
02:13:36 torn
02:13:40 there’s a lot of examples of that the
02:13:42 feast days leviticus 23 or
02:13:45 in the new testament after christ’s
02:13:46 resurrection
02:13:51 anyways there’s a lot of
02:13:54 misunderstandings
02:13:55 in the new testament when you
02:13:59 christians proofread a lot meaning that
02:14:01 they put their own interpretation
02:14:03 upon the verse rather than learning the
02:14:05 verse and the context piece for itself
02:14:07 but i will also say orthodox jews
02:14:11 are kings at proof texts
02:14:15 they’re way better at it than the
02:14:17 christians way better
02:14:19 anyways that’s a whole other subject
02:14:29 um anyways shall we go back to these
02:14:32 help versus dnc 59
02:14:35 uh herbs good things which come out of
02:14:39 the earth
02:14:41 food raymond for horses
02:14:45 barns orchards gardens vineyards
02:14:48 all which comes from the earth in the
02:14:50 season there
02:14:51 oh so uh
02:14:54 my my first recorded um
02:14:58 session on this because dlc 89 talks
02:15:00 about this also in the season thereof
02:15:02 right
02:15:03 well here it is 11 in the season they’re
02:15:05 up
02:15:07 um and i’m
02:15:11 summers if i remember correctly she
02:15:14 talked about this because she’s in the
02:15:15 garden a lot more
02:15:16 than i am in the details i like garden i
02:15:18 had a garden going
02:15:20 my own i’m sure my mom did most of it
02:15:23 right but it was mine
02:15:25 anyways um when i get a house i want a
02:15:28 garden
02:15:29 but she talks about how the season
02:15:31 thereof is
02:15:32 is talking about when it’s ripe and
02:15:34 ready because when
02:15:36 um like tomatoes or other fruits when
02:15:39 they’re not
02:15:40 um actually right they’re actually
02:15:43 poisonous for you so in this season
02:15:46 when they’re ready when they’re um
02:15:51 done that’s when you’re supposed to eat
02:15:53 them not before
02:15:55 is what she believes and and how she
02:15:59 explained it in that person
02:16:00 really makes a lot of sense to me that
02:16:02 that’s what that is
02:16:04 because i mean i don’t know about you
02:16:06 but we eat tomatoes
02:16:07 all the time because the grocery store
02:16:09 right
02:16:11 but they’re they’re ripe
02:16:15 if you’ve ever had a garden yourself you
02:16:17 know they’re not right but they’re
02:16:19 they’re they’re right right um
02:16:22 anyways there are um if you eat
02:16:25 fruit and vegetables before they’re
02:16:27 ready they’re actually poisonous for you
02:16:29 in fact also there are some fruits and
02:16:32 vegetables
02:16:33 and specifically beans if you don’t go
02:16:36 through the fermenting
02:16:37 process they’re actually poisonous for
02:16:39 men
02:16:40 right right right yes mild food and
02:16:43 drinks are good for men
02:16:45 fermented alcoholic
02:16:49 [Music]
02:16:51 season thereof made for the benefit and
02:16:53 use of man
02:16:55 both to the to please the eye
02:16:58 and glad in the heart
02:17:03 and you know according to the old
02:17:04 testament and joseph smith what gladdens
02:17:07 the heart
02:17:07 wine which is fermented
02:17:11 right fact you probably know this
02:17:15 you know how they talk about the burning
02:17:17 of the bosom because of the spirit
02:17:18 what happens when you whine oh
02:17:22 yeah right
02:17:25 the burning interesting no that’s that’s
02:17:28 that’s a good point it’s it’s
02:17:30 interesting huh so it would be probably
02:17:33 the
02:17:33 uh the hard alcohol that would probably
02:17:35 be not permitted
02:17:37 it would uh no wine is not hard part is
02:17:39 disgusting
02:17:46 because natural processing only goes to
02:17:49 about 20
02:17:50 it’s when you start distilling or
02:17:53 freezing meaning doing additional
02:17:56 man-made processes that is where you
02:17:59 start getting beyond the 20
02:18:01 is when you start getting the hard or
02:18:03 strong stuff
02:18:04 which is then only for the cleaning of
02:18:06 the body
02:18:08 sure sure nine and i i mean
02:18:12 if you whatever you believe on dc89 i
02:18:15 bet i applied it more than illegal sites
02:18:20 i have done whiskey
02:18:23 to clean my body as joseph smith has
02:18:25 done before
02:18:26 being re-baptized
02:18:29 joseph smith used whiskey to clean
02:18:32 himself
02:18:33 before the sabbath
02:18:40 [Music]
02:18:46 look things to enjoy
02:18:49 you know in the garden we’re supposed to
02:18:52 eat of
02:18:52 all the trees we’re supposed to enjoy
02:18:55 life except for one
02:18:56 sin the knowledge of good and evil sin
02:19:00 that is what we’re not supposed to
02:19:02 partake and god defines sin
02:19:05 we’re supposed to enjoy it look for
02:19:06 taste and smell that’s enjoyment
02:19:09 to strengthen the body alive in the soul
02:19:13 food according to dnc 59
02:19:18 enlivens the soul
02:19:22 that’s spirit right soul and spirit
02:19:25 anyways
02:19:26 and he pleases god that he’s given these
02:19:28 things unto man
02:19:29 unto this end where they may be used
02:19:33 with judgment not to access
02:19:36 neither by xor taste not to excess
02:19:39 you know drinking too much water can
02:19:41 kill you
02:19:42 yeah yeah you get endemia
02:19:46 was that the technical term for it yeah
02:19:49 your body starts swelling yeah
02:19:51 you start swelling up usually it’s uh
02:19:53 your brain
02:19:54 swelling up inside the skull and
02:19:58 that’s one of the things and then i
02:20:00 forget the other
02:20:02 but it’s yeah indeemia is one of the bad
02:20:04 things from it
02:20:05 your body just starts swelling up if you
02:20:08 drink too much of it
02:20:10 sure i know that some of the technicals
02:20:12 like youtube but i know it’s bad
02:20:14 i i don’t know all the technicals i know
02:20:17 that one just because uh
02:20:20 damn i think it was my nutrition class
02:20:22 the teacher taught us that
02:20:25 no i the closest thing i had nutrition
02:20:28 was a whole mech
02:20:30 and junior okay i mean but they didn’t
02:20:33 really talk about nutrition it’s just
02:20:34 you know a class to learn how to yeah
02:20:37 and so
02:20:38 in fact i actually got a and story
02:20:42 oh nice don’t do it now i was a good
02:20:45 student
02:20:46 and cooking my favorite part of cooking
02:20:48 is eating right
02:20:50 yeah sure you know the heart of man is
02:20:51 cook is food right
02:20:53 that’s for women right
02:21:00 actually you know there’s some truth to
02:21:02 that statement because what what should
02:21:04 we be eating
02:21:04 the bread the bread of life what is that
02:21:09 you know a lot of these things actually
02:21:11 have some truth behind them if you uh
02:21:14 uh really look into it so here’s one for
02:21:17 you since we talked a little about the
02:21:18 polar configuration
02:21:19 a frown right okay
02:21:23 up down upside down pressing
02:21:26 turn your frown upside down turn it up
02:21:30 so a frown the crescent is upside down
02:21:33 turn it upside down uh
02:21:36 it goes around to turn into a smile
02:21:40 on the polar configuration which is what
02:21:42 they used to keep time with
02:21:45 interesting a frown for the top turn
02:21:48 around into a smile
02:21:51 just smile it’s all over when you know
02:21:55 what to look for
02:21:57 like i said i believe in the general
02:21:59 concepts of the public period
02:22:02 some of the nitty-gritties i disagree
02:22:04 with
02:22:05 anthony on but the overall research i
02:22:07 think is
02:22:08 is good the theory is good
02:22:13 nice uh anyway
02:22:18 brothers i’m gonna have to drop off
02:22:20 about now okay oh
02:22:22 yeah it’s yeah same with me
02:22:25 with me too thank you thank you thank
02:22:28 you gary
02:22:29 well thanks for coming guys and come
02:22:32 next week
02:22:33 yeah i enjoyed it thanks for inviting me
02:22:36 yeah i
02:22:37 i it’s you know moroni six
02:22:41 right one of the later verses we can
02:22:44 look at it but it says
02:22:46 to just talk about things is it’s very
02:22:48 direct no no
02:22:50 set schedule and that’s what we’re doing
02:22:52 and that i
02:22:53 am kind of stigmatizing um but it sounds
02:22:57 like your alarm goes so i better let you
02:22:58 go
02:22:59 yep my arm sorry about that no that’s
02:23:02 fine
02:23:02 i’m just glad that you guys came already
02:23:05 it’s been nice to have you guys coming
02:23:07 yeah it was nice it was nice visiting
02:23:09 and and and
02:23:11 you know uh community are fellowshipping
02:23:14 together
02:23:15 yes yeah um i hope you guys come again
02:23:19 thanks for coming all right thanks take
02:23:22 care good night
02:23:24 good night night
02:23:58 um
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