Scripture Study 2020-12-15

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Talk about Word of Wisdom, 10 commandments 5 principles, 2 Nephi 32:3,5 Holy Spirit/Ghost is the word of God (wherefore), and Kosher laws, trees of knowledge of good and evil

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00:00:00 here so I I I gave you a link but I I
00:00:04 wrote this article the um verses in the
00:00:09 book of Mor about eating meat
00:00:11 sparingly um specifically because I’ve
00:00:16 seen in LDS members and I’ve seen some
00:00:20 actually you know come out the
00:00:22 conferences and teach this that you
00:00:24 shouldn’t eat
00:00:25 meat oh my goodness have you ever heard
00:00:28 of I I think he might still be on
00:00:31 YouTube he goes under the it goes under
00:00:34 the channel named nephite
00:00:36 Explorer oh yeah I know who he is he he
00:00:39 he has a TV he used to have a TV show
00:00:42 right his um but he he did a series on
00:00:46 Word of Wisdom yeah and I actually I I
00:00:50 mean you don’t necessarily have to agree
00:00:51 with everything he said but I found that
00:00:54 it was quite Illuminating he did a ton
00:00:58 of research uh I made a lot of comments
00:01:01 too on his videos if you go back and
00:01:03 look any sure I do reference his videos
00:01:07 in my Word of Wisdom Resource page
00:01:10 because I in general I think he did a
00:01:11 good job there are some things I
00:01:13 disagree with him on but in general I do
00:01:15 think he did a good job I also think um
00:01:19 where he started doing that when he was
00:01:21 an LDS member oh is he not I don’t know
00:01:25 now I the last time I heard and this is
00:01:28 through the rumor mail so take with a
00:01:30 green of
00:01:31 salt um he was still a member but he
00:01:36 knows the leaders are not teaching
00:01:38 things
00:01:39 correctly right I mean that’s pretty
00:01:42 much where I last heard from him was
00:01:46 that was basically what he stated oh I I
00:01:48 don’t remember him stating it but okay I
00:01:50 wouldn’t be surprised because I think
00:01:52 probably the word of wisdom probably got
00:01:54 him to start waking up because what the
00:01:57 elas church teaches is contrary to the
00:01:59 actual
00:02:00 text of yeah I me it is it is
00:02:11 very it is one of the most
00:02:14 blatant disregards of actual
00:02:18 scripture you know actual Church
00:02:20 scripture that you can actually find you
00:02:22 know it’s like well I think there’s
00:02:24 other ones too but it I think I’m not
00:02:26 saying because they they say it’s the
00:02:30 Commandment right it’s the big it’s what
00:02:32 the eldest church is known for sad thing
00:02:35 is it’s completely how they’re known for
00:02:38 is completely contrary to what the text
00:02:40 actually says in fact the text actually
00:02:43 says do not constrain and that’s what
00:02:45 the elist church does it constrains them
00:02:48 to follow their bad interpretation of it
00:02:52 right well I mean it say not it doesn’t
00:02:54 say anything about coffee it doesn’t say
00:02:56 anything about tea the or or
00:03:00 and the
00:03:02 the what it says about alcohol you know
00:03:06 the thing is is that they they tend to
00:03:08 oversimplify and lump all
00:03:11 alcohols together and when you lump the
00:03:16 word of wisdom has three categories and
00:03:18 we could go look at the verses but I
00:03:19 know them off top of my head um wine and
00:03:23 it says to use it for Sacrament beer and
00:03:26 it’s good for men and strong
00:03:28 drink is the bodying the body and strong
00:03:33 drink is something that you can’t get
00:03:35 naturally man has to add to the alcohol
00:03:39 or the fermentation process to get
00:03:41 strong drink because that’s where they
00:03:43 peel it or freeze it are the two ways
00:03:45 that I’ve come
00:03:47 across so I guess the thing is is that
00:03:50 if it doesn’t freeze it should be
00:03:52 considered hard alcohol and at that
00:03:54 point probably shouldn’t drink
00:03:58 it C freeze oh oh oh cuz I know one way
00:04:02 to make um strong drink is to freeze and
00:04:05 because it separates it so I’m not let
00:04:08 me let me show you what I mean
00:04:10 [Music]
00:04:22 okay oh is that vodka oh that’s vodka
00:04:25 vodka I’ve never had vodka does it
00:04:28 freeze see this was that in the freezer
00:04:31 that was out of the freezer it’s been in
00:04:33 the freezer for
00:04:34 over if it were water it would be solid
00:04:38 yeah you’re right not freeze I didn’t
00:04:40 know that I guess that’s why they I I
00:04:43 know they use freezing to to separate
00:04:47 and I guess that’s
00:04:49 what you just show me that’s true I I’ve
00:04:52 only read about it I didn’t I’ve never
00:04:54 seen it one more hang on
00:05:18 this is white wine that I made myself
00:05:23 okay Frozen it’s been frozen for over a
00:05:26 month yeah that’s solid that’s solid
00:05:31 yeah so that’s the difference between
00:05:35 huh well hard alcohol sure sure yeah
00:05:38 because the heart I’ve read I’ve never
00:05:40 and you just proved it to me that they
00:05:42 some people use freezing to separate and
00:05:45 I guess it’s because it the hard stuff
00:05:48 comes out or it did look like on your on
00:05:53 your your white um wine that there was a
00:05:56 little white at the like it looked like
00:05:59 the color at the top was a little
00:06:00 different I don’t know what that was
00:06:02 Frost oh was just Frost okay yeah huh
00:06:08 I strong drink a couple times I’ll tell
00:06:11 you I don’t like it it
00:06:13 burns it burns soda’s wine but it’s
00:06:18 strong drink is a qu it’s a different
00:06:20 level it’s much stronger Burn yeah I I
00:06:23 don’t
00:06:24 like the only way I will drink hard
00:06:28 liquor is if I dilute it like oh almost
00:06:33 10 to one I I can’t take it I can’t like
00:06:37 it either I I’ve had it a couple times
00:06:39 just out of curiosity and one or twice
00:06:41 with a friend or two but I just you know
00:06:46 because you know Word of Wisdom not by
00:06:48 commandment or constraint right right
00:06:51 but I don’t like it I I I’m I I the
00:06:56 strongest I like is wine
00:07:00 so uh a completely off topic question do
00:07:04 you have bone
00:07:05 conduction
00:07:07 earphones yes I do yeah as you can see
00:07:11 they’re not inside I yeah I’ve had I’ve
00:07:15 had bone
00:07:17 conduction headsets
00:07:19 before when they’re
00:07:21 not too tight use
00:07:24 aftershocks or was yeah aftershocks I
00:07:28 have yeah I I have a i the ones I use
00:07:32 were like offbrand you know I haven’t it
00:07:37 might be if they weren’t working right
00:07:39 might be because they were cheap ones
00:07:41 they worked fine it’s that they had a
00:07:45 tend because my head is a little bigger
00:07:47 than normal and that it’s they tend to
00:07:49 do a one-size
00:07:50 fits-all um it provide it hits it
00:07:54 pressure it it puts pressure and it and
00:07:56 it can cause a headache after a while um
00:07:59 sure sure sure um so this is one of the
00:08:03 originals from aftershocks that I bought
00:08:05 like forever ago and it actually still
00:08:08 works and so you I got the wired because
00:08:11 I I don’t W like wires things but then I
00:08:15 started going to the gym here and taking
00:08:17 the wire to the gym that causes problems
00:08:19 so I I actually I have two sets because
00:08:22 I have a the Bluetooth actually the the
00:08:26 newest Bluetooth set and I still have
00:08:28 their old this wired set because it
00:08:30 still works great and I use it I can
00:08:34 plug in you know you should be you
00:08:37 should use stuff that you get for as
00:08:41 long as it’s useful you know um oh I I
00:08:45 only got the the Bluetooth one because I
00:08:47 was having problems with it at the gym
00:08:49 when I was right so you but you still
00:08:52 use the wire one too so it’s all I use
00:08:54 it when I’m at the computer um use what
00:08:57 you need to and it’s so good well I
00:09:00 actually had to glue my wires back or
00:09:03 solder them back together a little bit
00:09:05 and glue because of the gym because
00:09:08 working out of the gym I had a little
00:09:10 problems with the wire yeah because I
00:09:13 actually try to avoid the radiation but
00:09:16 it was going to the gym that like okay I
00:09:18 need to get a wireless one so I can
00:09:19 still listen and work out and not cause
00:09:21 a and not break my
00:09:25 headset um because I I actually I don’t
00:09:28 like Wi-Fi I avoid it as much as
00:09:30 possible I know it’s convenient but I
00:09:32 don’t like the r radiation but anyways
00:09:36 well yeah I I get that
00:09:43 I I though I don’t know any studies
00:09:45 about the radiation from Bluetooth one
00:09:48 way or the other I I I know of studies
00:09:50 on Wi-Fi but not on Bluetooth so I know
00:09:55 that the
00:09:59 cellular phone
00:10:02 broadcasting those those are bad yeah I
00:10:07 I keep my phone off of me as much as
00:10:10 possible and a bit of
00:10:12 distance
00:10:14 um so I was curious it shed it said that
00:10:18 two other people were going to show up I
00:10:21 am assuming they already showed up in
00:10:23 jemy came uh and he he couldn’t stay
00:10:26 long um we did sacrament together we did
00:10:30 a little Fellowship in sacrament and he
00:10:31 had to go he’s been regular for a while
00:10:34 so he’ll probably be here next week in
00:10:37 fact if you are bored and you want
00:10:38 something to listen to you should listen
00:10:40 to last week’s
00:10:42 recording um that too but no the I
00:10:47 talked about the 10 virgins and Ten
00:10:49 Commandments and I I think it’s a maybe
00:10:52 unfold myself but I think it’s a very
00:10:54 good interesting point and I’m happy to
00:10:56 go over it again with you but if you
00:10:58 want to go listen to it you can go
00:10:59 listen to it
00:11:01 um but just a review is I think the 10
00:11:05 virgins are like the Ten
00:11:07 Commandments and most
00:11:09 people they’ll keep the the five to do
00:11:12 with you know for the most part being
00:11:14 good with other people but they don’t
00:11:16 keep the five about worshiping God the
00:11:18 way that he wants to be
00:11:21 worshiped okay now that’s a quick
00:11:24 summary of it for you what I so if you
00:11:28 don’t mind me going over
00:11:31 it um what
00:11:34 five were what five Commandments were
00:11:36 you referring to oh so there’s the Ten
00:11:39 Commandments right right so there’s two
00:11:45 ways to classify those 10 there’s most
00:11:47 people classify as four and six because
00:11:50 four to do with God and six to do with
00:11:53 your neighbors okay okay I disagree with
00:11:57 that assessment I don’t think it’s
00:12:00 unwise but I think they’re not taking
00:12:02 the whole picture into account I think
00:12:05 it’s better to put five what that have
00:12:08 to do with authority including God and
00:12:10 our parents and five to do with our
00:12:13 peers our neighbors and our enemies so
00:12:17 I’m gonna be a dunce here okay I can
00:12:19 remember a
00:12:20 handful right off the
00:12:22 top um
00:12:25 what well what were the Ten Commandments
00:12:28 in order
00:12:29 I know that they vary from scripture to
00:12:32 scripture
00:12:33 but uh in general what were they in well
00:12:38 let’s go look at them real quick in fact
00:12:39 let’s first one is like that I am thy
00:12:42 Lord thy God Thou shalt have no other
00:12:44 gods before me I think that’s the first
00:12:47 one or is that let’s let’s go look at
00:12:50 them in fact let’s go look at the the
00:12:52 five classifications um because um why
00:12:57 not right since we’re talking about let
00:12:59 me I
00:13:01 have a
00:13:03 picture I have two pictures on
00:13:07 my website let’s see if I can find them
00:13:09 again I put them in the resources from
00:13:13 last time if I can’t find it again I I
00:13:15 guess I’m gonna go copy those links so
00:13:16 hold on one one second sure it’s just
00:13:19 nice to be able to see them right yeah
00:13:24 [Music]
00:13:50 all right so let’s share my
00:13:53 screen it’s funny I go to the the
00:13:55 YouTube to go get the picture faster
00:13:57 than can
00:14:01 anyways that doesn’t matter excuse
00:14:03 me here here they are and
00:14:08 um do not murder do not commit adultery
00:14:12 oh those are the pure ones I am the Lord
00:14:14 your God do not make yourself a Graven
00:14:17 image and bow before them do not take
00:14:20 the lord’s name in vain remember the
00:14:22 Sabbath and keep it holy honor thy
00:14:24 father and mother okay here’s the pure
00:14:27 ones do not murder
00:14:30 now um that actually goes along with I
00:14:32 am the Lord your God and there’s some
00:14:36 things in the Book of Mormon I think
00:14:38 illuminate that in fact okay let’s hear
00:14:42 that if you don’t Elma the younger um
00:14:45 and we can go find the verse if you want
00:14:46 but it talks about how um he murdered
00:14:50 people but he didn’t he wasn’t a murder
00:14:53 and he clarifies that I taught people to
00:14:56 reject the Lord God that’s how what he
00:14:59 classified as murder which goes along
00:15:01 with this combination of putting I am
00:15:04 the Lord thy God and murder together
00:15:07 this does that actually makes sense in
00:15:10 the way that so it’s my understanding
00:15:14 this is just my interpretation my
00:15:17 understanding death is separation from
00:15:21 God yep
00:15:23 yeah that’s spiritual death techn yeah
00:15:28 if you
00:15:31 you know Elma was guilty
00:15:34 of murder in the sense
00:15:38 of separ people from God spiritual death
00:15:41 for those people
00:15:44 yeah completely
00:15:46 agree there there’s another dimension
00:15:49 that uh this Rabbi gets into that goes
00:15:52 on with this is when when you don’t like
00:15:56 someone if you like really start hating
00:15:59 them you want to eliminate them and in
00:16:02 the human or the pure form of that is
00:16:06 that you murder them to get rid of them
00:16:09 but in in the God Realm or authority
00:16:11 realm you pretend they don’t
00:16:19 exist because you can’t actually go
00:16:21 murder God right but you can pretend he
00:16:24 doesn’t
00:16:25 exist true so and that’s what atheists
00:16:31 do so I guess in that sense you like in
00:16:35 death like to a
00:16:38 dele uh yeah yeah sort to speak and
00:16:42 computer speak
00:16:44 yeah I mean I wouldn’t use that in in
00:16:47 real world but in computer speak yeah
00:16:49 you call you know the the the theory
00:16:53 that they’ve come up with about the
00:16:55 whole we’re living in a hologram
00:16:57 Universe thing
00:16:59 um I mean given
00:17:02 that our very essence the what makes us
00:17:08 on a molecular
00:17:09 level smaller than a molecular level is
00:17:13 light wrapped around itself you know
00:17:16 sure the atoms yeah then sure I’ll give
00:17:20 them that maybe we do live in a
00:17:22 holographic
00:17:24 Universe
00:17:26 uh maybe it’s a Str it’s a stretch
00:17:30 though along those lines I do think the
00:17:32 the word of God is like a hologram in
00:17:34 that that the Shadows of the whole can
00:17:38 be seen in the
00:17:41 part and I see that all throughout the
00:17:44 scriptures yeah a projection yeah a
00:17:47 little warped a little distorted but
00:17:49 it’s there it’s that’s why I meant by
00:17:51 the shadow it’s it’s somewhat there not
00:17:54 in the full detail right but you can see
00:17:57 remnants of of the rest of the Gospel
00:18:00 even
00:18:01 in in little bits of it um in
00:18:06 fact I’d have to go we could look at the
00:18:08 wording later or I’ll just say this and
00:18:10 we can decide if you want to look at
00:18:11 that or keep talking on the Ten
00:18:12 Commandments
00:18:14 but the sacramental prayers right the
00:18:17 one about the the bread and the body I
00:18:21 actually started thinking about today
00:18:23 that I think it’s teaching the
00:18:25 resurrection actually and some of the
00:18:27 ways that it’s worded
00:18:29 personally possibly Resurrection you
00:18:32 know I’ve
00:18:34 I’ve I was going over Daniel a little
00:18:37 while ago okay which chapter because
00:18:41 there’s lots of
00:18:42 them I know LS but there’s a few one
00:18:46 about the
00:18:47 resurrection um and it talks about
00:18:51 how the bodies will be restored flesh
00:18:54 and
00:18:56 Bone and it it different than flesh and
00:19:01 blood and there’s there’s a lot
00:19:05 of reference
00:19:08 to uh the
00:19:11 blood belonging to God the blood is
00:19:15 God’s you know you are not to consume
00:19:18 blood because you know the blood is the
00:19:21 life right and life Belongs to the Lord
00:19:26 and um
00:19:29 the you know I mean even with
00:19:31 preparation of meat you know you are
00:19:35 to you are
00:19:37 to drain it onto the ground and cover
00:19:41 and not yeah and not consume it because
00:19:45 you know you you’re basically giving it
00:19:46 back to God um
00:19:51 and it’s it’s interesting that when you
00:19:57 know when we are G
00:20:00 when we’re given the estate our
00:20:04 body you know it may in fact be absent
00:20:08 of blood
00:20:13 because the elist church teaches you
00:20:16 know in the resurrection we don’t have
00:20:17 blood um but I I don’t know if that’s
00:20:21 true or not it’s not I can’t say that
00:20:24 it’s true or not either but I was just I
00:20:27 do know I do agree with you i’ I I see I
00:20:31 didn’t know it was in Daniel um but I do
00:20:33 know in other places in the Scriptures
00:20:35 it talks about the resurrected body is
00:20:37 flesh and Bone not flesh and blood right
00:20:40 right and it’s like and here’s the
00:20:42 interesting thing
00:20:44 right
00:20:47 physically our bodies generate our
00:20:51 blood that comes from bone our
00:20:55 bones and that’s a that is an
00:20:58 interesting point point with that
00:20:59 statement if we are created with the
00:21:02 bones and not with the blood because the
00:21:06 blood is the life and belongs to God but
00:21:10 we are being given with the we’re being
00:21:12 given the foundation with which to build
00:21:14 our
00:21:15 own well that’s an interesting point I
00:21:18 hadn’t thought about that but yeah
00:21:19 because our blood is made in the
00:21:22 bones so I don’t know what to say to
00:21:24 that right now I mean I it feels like by
00:21:28 that statement you know when we’re
00:21:30 resurrected and we are we will be we
00:21:33 will have our bodies of Flesh and bone
00:21:36 that
00:21:38 distinction to me this is just my
00:21:41 interpretation but it seems like that’s
00:21:44 when we will be given
00:21:48 agency to you know I mean this is where
00:21:52 so maybe what you’re trying to say is
00:21:54 that right now we are dependent upon God
00:21:58 life right I mean teaches that I do
00:22:02 believe that God wants us to get to the
00:22:04 point where we don’t depend upon him for
00:22:06 our life and I think maybe that’s what
00:22:08 you’re saying right I think we will
00:22:11 eventually get to the point of
00:22:13 [Music]
00:22:15 being I think if we’re righteous and we
00:22:19 pass the test I do think that um will
00:22:22 happen personally yeah I mean we’ll get
00:22:24 past
00:22:25 that we’ll get past that embryonic
00:22:29 stage sure and you know this is I
00:22:33 believe this I’m not the most well
00:22:35 versed but not one I’m so worried about
00:22:37 proving to others and even focusing on
00:22:40 but I do
00:22:41 believe that if we prove faithful God
00:22:45 will give us the Messiah will give us
00:22:48 everything that he has which would
00:22:50 include that in my opinion because he
00:22:53 has it he’s giving us everything he has
00:22:55 so we’ll have
00:22:57 that so
00:22:59 I suppose
00:23:01 it I guess the thing that I’m beating
00:23:04 around the bush it feels like I’m
00:23:06 starting to beat around the bush
00:23:08 about is that maybe even if it’s
00:23:11 interpreted wrong maybe the Mormons were
00:23:15 on to something in the idea
00:23:17 of we are we have the potential of
00:23:22 being like God Gods
00:23:25 ourselves I don’t know for sure I age
00:23:28 that and I but I do think the El Church
00:23:31 goes about it the wrong way um because I
00:23:34 won’t say that it is like I won’t say
00:23:36 that it’s not
00:23:38 wrong and this gets into a subject um
00:23:42 because God I think is actually a bad
00:23:45 interpretation or
00:23:47 translation um I think a better
00:23:50 translation is Judge actually uh for
00:23:54 that but we we’re in the culture um
00:23:57 because who’s going to be our judge
00:24:00 Yeshua and who’s our
00:24:02 Elohim
00:24:04 Yeshua uh and what is
00:24:07 translated most of the time not all the
00:24:09 time as God it’s Elohim but Elohim is
00:24:12 also translated as judge in the
00:24:15 scriptures right I I think God
00:24:18 is possibly the wrong way to translate
00:24:21 it actually so you know do you know
00:24:24 about the mythology about how the world
00:24:29 came out of an
00:24:31 egg uh not
00:24:33 deeply
00:24:36 little I believe it’s a Chinese
00:24:42 mythology
00:24:44 um so you’ll have to say more where
00:24:47 you’re trying to go with it because I I
00:24:48 don’t know so where I’m going with it
00:24:51 is
00:24:52 [Music]
00:24:54 um
00:24:56 so literally
00:25:01 and
00:25:03 figuratively we are the
00:25:06 same as an in
00:25:09 utero
00:25:12 fetus we if we were to be removed from
00:25:16 the environment of the
00:25:19 earth uh if we were to be removed from
00:25:23 the environment of the
00:25:25 sun we would die mhm pretty fast mhm we
00:25:32 are not
00:25:34 viable in the sense of being able to
00:25:37 survive outside of
00:25:39 our environment right but I
00:25:44 think
00:25:47 eventually if
00:25:50 we develop enough you know we will be
00:25:54 able to not only leave our our Nest sort
00:26:01 to speak um we will be able to
00:26:06 build or become Ness
00:26:09 ourselves well that makes any sense sure
00:26:13 sure I would put it a different way um I
00:26:16 I do believe after the resurrection we
00:26:19 can leave in fact Christ is going to
00:26:21 come to us from the clouds where he came
00:26:25 from out and coming in and he’s got the
00:26:27 he has a Resurrected body like we right
00:26:30 um and so I do believe after the
00:26:32 resurrection we can leave but I also
00:26:34 believe that the righteous is going to
00:26:37 inherit the earth so the unrighteous are
00:26:40 going to go somewhere
00:26:42 else I believe this the the the Mormon
00:26:46 preferred term is outer Darkness or
00:26:48 something like that uh no no there’s
00:26:51 four levels no you know there’s so
00:26:54 there’s a celestrial testal and t and or
00:26:58 the terrestrial
00:27:00 testal T the tal I always remember te’s
00:27:04 the last because te was bad right
00:27:06 because word well there’s terrestrial
00:27:08 and testal yeah that’s what I’m saying
00:27:10 because te’s last though because I
00:27:12 couldn’t remember T te teer but because
00:27:16 te’s bad it’s last but that’s how I
00:27:18 could
00:27:20 remember I must be going there because I
00:27:22 drink tea all the time
00:27:25 now you’re down to Hell welcome to the
00:27:27 gate
00:27:29 no not hell just just the tal Kingdom
00:27:32 give me a break I follow the prophet I’m
00:27:35 going to go to the tust
00:27:36 kingdom no I’m I’m not kidding you know
00:27:39 DNC 76 States you follow Prophet you’re
00:27:42 going to the testal kingdom I hear I
00:27:46 mean they’ve I’ve heard that the
00:27:49 prophets have described this world this
00:27:52 reality as being a testal reality oh
00:27:56 sure sure it teaches that in the temple
00:27:57 and if that’s true then I mean if if
00:28:01 testial is the analog to hell as a lot
00:28:06 of other Christian denominations like to
00:28:09 think of it
00:28:14 as so so I I think to be technical um
00:28:18 and I believe the Book of Mormon
00:28:20 supports this
00:28:21 and Elma 40 we can go look if you want
00:28:25 but hell is a temporary place and it’s
00:28:29 the the where the other temporary place
00:28:33 is
00:28:34 Paradise and then after that after
00:28:38 judgment if you went to hell you’re
00:28:40 going to go to outer Darkness or the
00:28:43 testeral kingdom um right and I think
00:28:49 the i in the little bit of research that
00:28:51 I’ve done it seems like the the one
00:28:55 thing that can absolutely consign you to
00:28:59 um outer
00:29:01 darkness is with quote full knowledge
00:29:06 denying God or the spirit h i I don’t
00:29:10 know if full knowledge is actually
00:29:12 necessary I think that’s a elus
00:29:14 tradition because when I read the
00:29:17 scriptures Book of Mormon and New
00:29:19 Testament I see denying the Holy Ghost
00:29:23 is what can make you go down to Hell now
00:29:27 you have to
00:29:28 you have to have the Holy Ghost though
00:29:31 and that’s question comes into play I
00:29:34 mean you can’t deny it if you don’t
00:29:38 really know it or understand it on some
00:29:42 level I don’t necessarily agree with
00:29:45 that so here here’s this here the
00:29:49 question a big question that goes along
00:29:50 with that statement is what is the Holy
00:29:53 Ghost and we could get into scriptures
00:29:56 this but I’ll just tell you what I
00:29:57 believe it is sure it’s God’s mind it’s
00:30:01 God’s plan it’s the Plan of
00:30:04 Salvation it it’s the reason why we need
00:30:08 the atonement If you
00:30:10 deny that the atonement is even possible
00:30:14 or necessary why would you
00:30:18 repent and if you don’t repent where are
00:30:21 you going to
00:30:23 go you’re going to go to
00:30:26 hell I could see
00:30:28 how you would come to that uh conclusion
00:30:32 of uh the Holy Spirit or the holy ghost
00:30:39 or am I confusing things Holy Ghost and
00:30:42 holy spirit are the same
00:30:44 thing the holy spirit is a better term
00:30:47 the Holy Ghost comes in because of bad
00:30:49 translation of the New Testament gotcha
00:30:52 and I’ll have a post on that if you want
00:30:53 to go read
00:30:55 it oh uh you you’ve given me a lot of
00:30:58 stuff to read in the first place and I
00:31:00 have a hard enough time as it is just
00:31:02 getting
00:31:03 to I I I just so you’re aware on this
00:31:08 post I I go
00:31:10 over I talk about various things but at
00:31:12 the bottom of the post I just um I give
00:31:15 an
00:31:16 index of I think it’s 16 terms and since
00:31:19 then I’ve come up with even more how the
00:31:23 Book of Mormon uses it the same way for
00:31:26 the Holy Ghost and holy spirit
00:31:28 16 different terms and so to me it just
00:31:33 shows that they’re the same and I I get
00:31:35 into much more detail in the actual post
00:31:38 if you ever get a chance to read it so
00:31:40 if Holy Ghost and holy spirit are
00:31:42 basically
00:31:44 synonymous
00:31:45 um so I have read from other people who
00:31:50 have
00:31:52 studied that they they had come to the
00:31:54 conclusion that the Holy Spirit and wisd
00:31:58 as in you know what is named in the in
00:32:01 the Old Testament as wisdom or God’s
00:32:05 wisdom uh is the same
00:32:08 thing uh depending on context I would uh
00:32:11 tend to mostly
00:32:13 agree because the the Holy Ghost is the
00:32:16 word and where do you get wisdom from
00:32:18 the
00:32:22 word which also brings up another
00:32:25 [Music]
00:32:26 interesting thing
00:32:28 you know this is
00:32:31 where gender is so
00:32:35 muddled um I think I know where you’re
00:32:38 going but I I’ll let you say it I mean
00:32:40 the word is
00:32:43 Jesus um at least according to new test
00:32:47 John right right John one right but
00:32:50 let’s it that’s symbolic he’s not
00:32:54 literally the word but Jesus is the
00:32:57 perfect
00:32:58 personification of the word in fact when
00:33:00 you go study the Greek of that statement
00:33:02 it’s not actually saying that he is
00:33:04 literally the word but he is the perfect
00:33:07 example of the word
00:33:09 because the word is based off of him and
00:33:13 his
00:33:14 characteristics he’s not literally the
00:33:16 word if that makes sense as we as we as
00:33:20 helenistic think of things because
00:33:22 Hebrews have a different way of thinking
00:33:24 of things than us
00:33:26 hel you know this is I can see
00:33:31 why there was such
00:33:35 a
00:33:37 warning literally a
00:33:40 warning about
00:33:42 translating because it is true that you
00:33:47 know
00:33:49 language language is the
00:33:52 lattice and the
00:33:54 cage of our
00:33:57 capacity to interpret and correlate
00:34:01 reality culture is part of that because
00:34:04 we use our culture to know how to to
00:34:07 interpret the words and right and and
00:34:10 you know language language has a built
00:34:15 in
00:34:17 constraint um
00:34:19 limitation Focus sure okay of you know
00:34:23 of its particular culture you know right
00:34:27 and
00:34:29 um while people can learn other
00:34:34 languages you don’t really know the
00:34:38 language until you are thinking in it
00:34:42 sure and immers it in fact my wife will
00:34:45 say when we’re in the states she’ll say
00:34:47 English to people and people don’t know
00:34:49 what she’s
00:34:50 saying because although she’s
00:34:53 technically correct she’s approaching it
00:34:57 differently
00:34:58 right she’s a cultural it no I I catch
00:35:03 on to it because I I have more
00:35:04 background with her and right it’s no
00:35:07 big deal I understood it and I’m
00:35:09 probably putting more thought into it or
00:35:11 I just understand her more right right
00:35:14 maybe some of both where these other
00:35:17 people that have no just thinking she’s
00:35:20 speaking English she what what in the
00:35:22 world are you why are you saying it that
00:35:23 way they just get all confused even
00:35:25 though yeah they can’t take her
00:35:28 because they don’t know where she’s
00:35:29 coming from but you can take her in
00:35:31 context
00:35:33 because you have experience
00:35:36 with her culture you know her language
00:35:40 and where and I may be trying to pay
00:35:43 more attention because I know she’s not
00:35:45 American right pay more attention to the
00:35:48 words than it’s the way that we
00:35:49 generally approach things right exactly
00:35:52 and the thing about the scriptures you
00:35:54 know is that
00:35:59 [Music]
00:36:02 translation
00:36:04 is literally a okay what is the relative
00:36:09 term in language B it’s an art and a
00:36:13 science it’s yeah and
00:36:16 it’s it is
00:36:19 so the people who have
00:36:24 translated the scriptures
00:36:28 are
00:36:30 so
00:36:32 lacking in context in a lot of
00:36:35 translators
00:36:38 they probably inadvertently and probably
00:36:41 some try harder than others but they put
00:36:44 their bias into what the verse means
00:36:47 when they’re doing right translations it
00:36:50 it muddies the
00:36:53 meaning because I mean if I said
00:36:59 the spirit is willing but the body is
00:37:05 weak if I said to you the wine is good
00:37:09 but the meat is
00:37:11 rotten it would literally be the same
00:37:14 thing
00:37:17 but it’s a context you know I mean me
00:37:21 saying the wine is good but the meat is
00:37:23 rotten makes absolutely no sense partly
00:37:26 because of the way that’s used in the
00:37:28 culture right right I mean
00:37:31 Spirit does refer to alcohol in some
00:37:36 englishspeaking well even in the
00:37:38 scriptures and so it’s in the scriptures
00:37:41 if people are aware of it but the I’m
00:37:43 not so okay well you just learned
00:37:45 something yeah I did here like the
00:37:48 burning of the spirit when you drink
00:37:51 wine it burns there’s a lot of
00:37:54 connections it it it’s not and there on
00:37:57 purpose it’s just especially being LDS
00:38:00 you
00:38:02 won’t make you pause it for a sec sure
00:38:04 sure hold on let’s all right
00:38:08 so okay it’s recording so um one thing
00:38:13 when I I wrote my Holy Spirit and Holy
00:38:15 Ghost
00:38:16 post um I couldn’t finish it because I
00:38:18 ran out of time because I actually
00:38:20 published it on a what I believe was a
00:38:24 high holiday at that time um Pentecost
00:38:28 which has to do with the the the spirit
00:38:30 which I I believe it’s later now and
00:38:33 that’s a whole another subject I can
00:38:34 give you resource on if you want um I
00:38:38 believe it’s in the summer and not the
00:38:40 spring as most people do and I did at
00:38:43 one time
00:38:45 um but uh I ran out of time and in it I
00:38:51 and if I ever get time to work on this
00:38:53 post because I’m working on some other
00:38:54 posts right now but if I get ever get
00:38:56 back to time to work on this subject
00:38:58 again I do a post that help bring out
00:39:01 how the Holy Spirit ghost is the same as
00:39:05 the word and the way that it’s used
00:39:07 throughout the scriptures New Testament
00:39:10 and Book of Mormon and Old Testament
00:39:12 they’re used the same way you can re
00:39:16 with the other and I one of these days I
00:39:19 want to write a post doing exactly that
00:39:21 and really bringing it out I I allude to
00:39:24 that in that post that I already did but
00:39:27 I ran out of time and it was already
00:39:29 kind of
00:39:31 long um it probably was good that it
00:39:33 wasn’t in that one anyways
00:39:37 but um I’ll tell you some people love
00:39:40 that my posts are long and some people
00:39:41 are like you need to split this up at
00:39:43 the multiple posts anyways well yeah
00:39:49 it’s
00:39:51 I you I’ve I’ve expressed to you about
00:39:54 my own difficulties with with long
00:39:58 um articles and books and stuff
00:40:03 I it’s like it’s like heaven to me if I
00:40:06 can find an audio book oh sure sure you
00:40:10 know I I think if I
00:40:13 recorded myself reading them i’ probably
00:40:15 get more people to listen to it than
00:40:17 read it I just I just don’t know if I
00:40:19 want to do that but here look here here
00:40:22 here’s since we’re on the subject a
00:40:24 little bit look look at these verses can
00:40:26 you can see my screen screen right mhm
00:40:29 okay so second Nephi 32 this is an
00:40:32 interesting one about um the Holy Ghost
00:40:35 and being the
00:40:38 word
00:40:40 um so you look at this okay so I
00:40:44 highlighted all things on purpose oh
00:40:46 well let’s go add the
00:40:49 S okay so
00:40:51 Three Angels speak by the power of the
00:40:54 Holy Ghost excuse me wherefore they
00:40:56 speak the words of Christ wherefore I
00:40:58 said unto you Feast upon the words of
00:41:00 Christ before the words of Christ Words
00:41:02 of Christ tell you all things what you
00:41:05 should do okay now let’s go skip to five
00:41:09 okay for behold again I say unto you if
00:41:12 you will enter in by the way meaning you
00:41:14 know baptism by repentance baptism by
00:41:18 water because that’s a big subject on
00:41:21 the previous chapter okay right and
00:41:24 receive the Holy Ghost it will show unto
00:41:27 all things you should do wait is it the
00:41:29 words of Christ to tell you all things
00:41:31 or is it the Holy Ghost to tell you all
00:41:34 things or is it what I actually believe
00:41:37 but they’re the same thing well I mean
00:41:41 if you look at three right it says
00:41:45 um they speak with the power of the Holy
00:41:47 Ghost therefore so wherefore
00:41:50 means um yeah because
00:41:55 or uh this happens because of the other
00:41:57 one right let see wherefore actually
00:41:59 means
00:42:00 why sure sure right right so Angels
00:42:04 speak by the power of the Holy Ghost why
00:42:07 they speak the words of
00:42:13 Christ and but what’s the what’s the
00:42:15 Holy Ghost it’s the words of it says
00:42:18 right here I mean it’s
00:42:19 like
00:42:21 so I I’m thinking that there’s a little
00:42:24 bit of issue with with the with the uh
00:42:29 grammar here okay the Sy well it’s
00:42:31 because it’s originally Hebrew right so
00:42:35 Angels speak by the power of the Holy
00:42:37 Ghost and the wherefore should be why
00:42:41 question
00:42:41 mark and then is because they speak the
00:42:44 words of
00:42:47 Christ well so
00:42:50 1828 uh I think this
00:42:53 is let’s go change my screen real quick
00:42:58 um because I was I’m getting it real
00:43:01 quick so we can get in the details but
00:43:04 for which reason I think is a
00:43:06 better uh definition especially in this
00:43:09 case not not the why but wherefore is
00:43:11 why also but I I I think for this reason
00:43:16 or this is why that’s happening right or
00:43:19 why this is the
00:43:22 case not why is in a question but why is
00:43:25 a statement
00:43:28 does that make
00:43:32 sense
00:43:34 yeah I mean it makes more sense to me in
00:43:37 the context that I gave it but it it’s
00:43:40 basically you know it’s six of one half
00:43:42 a dozen of another I think we’re saying
00:43:45 the same thing just maybe it differently
00:43:48 yeah
00:43:49 exactly sure um let me go back to here
00:43:54 but with you kind of bringing this out
00:43:57 do think three actually is saying that
00:44:00 the Holy Ghost is the word of Christ
00:44:02 also exactly right and I think that’s
00:44:04 what you’re trying to bring out where
00:44:06 right I I hadn’t actually I hadn’t
00:44:08 noticed that until you just said that
00:44:11 because I’ve have focused on all things
00:44:13 in the two different verses and what the
00:44:15 two different things that they tie to it
00:44:18 but you’re right three itself says that
00:44:22 itself right I mean the thing about the
00:44:25 scriptures I forgot what they call it
00:44:27 but there’s a they’ll they’ll make a
00:44:31 point make another
00:44:33 Point jump back to the first point to
00:44:36 reinforce the first point and then go on
00:44:40 from there sure sure here in fact since
00:44:42 I brought up second e531 I’ll show you
00:44:44 the post I’m working on it’s a kaym
00:44:47 where it goes a b ah yes that’s what you
00:44:50 that’s what I
00:44:51 was trying to
00:44:53 think the post is mostly done but I’ve
00:44:57 had the kism done for quite a while it’s
00:44:59 adding the extra commentary I want to
00:45:01 add to it but so here’s the summary of
00:45:04 the kism right a and then C1 C2
00:45:10 d uh e F1 F2 hang on one
00:45:14 sec you want me to pause yeah
00:45:21 okay hi let me turn off M okay hurry go
00:45:25 do you what you need to do
00:45:40 so in the downtime just to ask a
00:45:43 completely different question sure are
00:45:45 there any references to birds of prey
00:45:48 Raptors Haw Eagles
00:45:52 Falcons
00:45:54 um of the of that type
00:45:58 that is associated with the uh word or
00:46:04 your spirit of
00:46:06 God uh so the dove is right but I I know
00:46:12 I know about the dove but um I I and I
00:46:16 think I’ve shared this with you before I
00:46:18 have a theory that the sign of a dove is
00:46:19 Angels coming down and Minister um but I
00:46:22 probably I can’t definitively say that
00:46:26 yet so that’s that’s a theory right now
00:46:28 so the reason I ask is so so let me get
00:46:32 let me say a little more I so Birds of
00:46:35 Prey are not Kosher and so my
00:46:39 inclination without looking at some
00:46:41 specifics is that they’d be um
00:46:43 representative angels of Satan because
00:46:46 of the unkosher so why are they why are
00:46:50 they
00:46:51 unkosher um so all culture fuit never
00:46:54 kills another animal for food all all
00:46:58 all kosher animals are
00:47:00 [Music]
00:47:02 vegetarians so by that
00:47:05 definition dogs are on kosher too yeah
00:47:09 yeah for one on on animals because we’re
00:47:12 talking about birds but animals they
00:47:15 need a hoof and they don’t dogs don’t
00:47:17 have a hoof and they need multiple
00:47:19 stomachs and dogs don’t have multiple
00:47:21 stomachs is it kosher to eat
00:47:25 Dove uh yes that’s why you could it’s an
00:47:28 offering and everything that was allowed
00:47:30 to be offered is K kosher in fact that’s
00:47:34 part of the reason why we should be
00:47:36 kosher because what can be put onto the
00:47:39 temple
00:47:40 altar is only what’s allowed to go
00:47:42 inside of our body also because of the
00:47:45 link between the the temple and the body
00:47:48 gotcha okay so
00:47:51 [Music]
00:47:53 um uh the reason I asked about
00:47:57 about uh the not necessarily being
00:48:01 kosher but being linked
00:48:03 to
00:48:07 uh messages or
00:48:10 or you
00:48:12 [Music]
00:48:13 know to God not in necessarily a direct
00:48:16 way but in a a a more like Angelic way I
00:48:20 suppose would be uh the better term but
00:48:25 um so for me personally falconry has
00:48:31 been a spiritual
00:48:33 experience oh sure I I I I think Falcon
00:48:36 is a good thing I don’t think it’s a bad
00:48:38 thing and the thing about um falconry
00:48:44 and the the concept of being a a
00:48:47 spiritual thing uh there’s actually some
00:48:51 ties to the abrahamic god through Islam
00:48:55 uh Falcon you know Islam came from um
00:48:59 through Abraham right I mean but um he
00:49:02 didn’t want it to
00:49:05 happen that’s whole other subject sorry
00:49:08 the
00:49:10 um the abrahamic or the the Islamic
00:49:14 faith um they they completely you know
00:49:19 they’re they’re very much like the Jews
00:49:21 and that they they’re they think that
00:49:24 dogs are are foul and and
00:49:27 they they follow to some extent cultural
00:49:30 laws I don’t know if it’s the same ones
00:49:32 as as the Jew the Jews don’t even follow
00:49:35 what’s in the
00:49:36 Bible but it’s like they they they they
00:49:39 avoid dogs they avoid pigs they
00:49:42 avoid you know a lot of these on kosher
00:49:47 animals not to too much but before I was
00:49:50 kosher I’ve eaten dog and it was good I
00:49:53 wouldn’t know I’ve never had it but um
00:49:57 the thing is is that while the Islamic
00:50:01 people have a very strong tendency of
00:50:05 avoiding those unkosher
00:50:08 animals they
00:50:10 Revere they practically
00:50:13 Revere Raptors especially
00:50:17 Falcons um as because they it’s their
00:50:23 scripture their scripture tends to
00:50:27 L
00:50:29 um
00:50:31 Raptors
00:50:33 to to me you know to Angels or
00:50:36 messengers of God um they’re symbolic
00:50:41 not not so much as does but very similar
00:50:45 sure sure now I I I don’t have a high
00:50:47 opinion of the Islamic faith itself I I
00:50:51 do think there’s good people in it that
00:50:52 are just misled just like in the eliest
00:50:55 church
00:50:57 um so
00:51:01 I Islam’s God is Satan in my complete
00:51:05 honest opinion and Allah name has its
00:51:08 roots in a moon God that has to do with
00:51:11 molok um which is
00:51:14 Satan
00:51:16 um so I I don’t have a very high opinion
00:51:19 of it of the religion itself but there’s
00:51:22 a lot of good people in it that just
00:51:24 don’t know it like pretty much every m
00:51:27 religion to be honest including
00:51:30 LDS Catholics Baptists Protestants all
00:51:34 of them most of the main religions but
00:51:37 anyways um I this is not something I’ve
00:51:40 studied a lot but so this is where we’d
00:51:42 have to go look at some examples but I I
00:51:45 know ephraim’s
00:51:49 um um Animal by heart or its symbol is
00:51:54 uh wild ox I just I’m from so I know
00:51:57 that one uh but I I I wonder if Dan is
00:52:03 an
00:52:04 eagle I think in fact I I think in the
00:52:08 Psalms it actually talks about
00:52:10 how God saved Israel on eagles wings and
00:52:16 Eagles are not Kosher they’re Birds of
00:52:18 Prey they’re not Kosher right and I know
00:52:20 that crows are not Kosher but uh crows
00:52:24 were used by God to
00:52:27 keep Elijah alive during the times of
00:52:31 drought they would I don’t remember that
00:52:34 but okay um so I we may have to look at
00:52:38 additional context because I in general
00:52:41 with him not being kosher I can see them
00:52:43 being used
00:52:45 as Satan but there’s also like um
00:52:49 Peter’s dream right used God used uncer
00:52:53 animals to tell Peter to go teach the
00:52:55 Gentiles that’s what the dream was about
00:52:57 it wasn’t about getting rid of kosher
00:53:00 law right I I get that it was not a go
00:53:04 eat bacon now it was a go teach the
00:53:07 Greeks that it’s okay not to be
00:53:10 circumcised in order to join the
00:53:12 church you know I mean I guess that’s
00:53:16 there there’s a big debate on that but I
00:53:18 I do I do agree with that statement in
00:53:20 fact the Book of Mormon St it states
00:53:22 basically that and so does the DNC just
00:53:25 FYI uh I mean it doesn’t say it in those
00:53:27 words but in essence right um
00:53:32 anyways uh Mar I at the chapter in The
00:53:35 Book of Mormon it basically says that I
00:53:38 don’t know the DNC verse or chapter off
00:53:40 top of my head I could find it if you
00:53:42 want um but anyways and I mean that’s a
00:53:47 big discussion in the books of Acts and
00:53:50 I think a lot of books of Acts on some
00:53:52 of these things are very much
00:53:54 misunderstood because they don’t know
00:53:56 the
00:53:57 culture um because a lot of times in the
00:54:00 book of Acts those who are trying to
00:54:02 keep the law it’s talking about those
00:54:04 are trying to keep the oral law and not
00:54:06 the written
00:54:11 law the judaizers were ones that were
00:54:14 trying to keep the oral law because the
00:54:17 Jews are the ones that really push that
00:54:20 anyways fact just FYI the Orthodox Jews
00:54:24 you know where they came from now the
00:54:27 Pharisees the people that Jesus chewed
00:54:29 out in the New Testament but that’s
00:54:31 where a lot of these Christians who are
00:54:33 finding Hebrew
00:54:34 Faith um as a good thing are listening
00:54:37 to they’re listening to the people that
00:54:39 Christ chewed out in the New Testament
00:54:42 and they don’t know it anyways that’s
00:54:44 another
00:54:47 subject um so on I could not even here
00:54:52 I’m giving examples where Birds of Prey
00:54:55 could are some posit could be positive
00:54:59 right um so I I could not definitively
00:55:03 say one way or the other we’d have to go
00:55:04 look at
00:55:06 context but I would I do believe though
00:55:09 that a dove kosher bird would never be
00:55:13 used in for symbolic Satan and his
00:55:18 dominions or an uncer one could be if
00:55:22 that makes sense it does it does so it’s
00:55:25 not a definitive
00:55:28 answer but I will say this in in in
00:55:32 defense of you having spiritual
00:55:33 experiences of it that all things
00:55:37 testify of
00:55:38 God yeah I I I agree you know I
00:55:44 mean God made all
00:55:46 things and when they
00:55:50 fulfill their
00:55:52 purpose they
00:55:54 are holy
00:55:59 I don’t know that’s an over assumption
00:56:01 sure sure sure right right right in
00:56:03 essence I’d go with that um but like in
00:56:07 humans God made all humans to be holy
00:56:09 but uh a lot of humans have decided hang
00:56:12 on one sec sure turn your video off
00:56:16 please the camera is off please turn
00:56:19 your video
00:56:21 off my dear
00:56:25 child that’s fine um but you know humans
00:56:28 don’t always do what right but I think
00:56:30 that goes along with where your uh
00:56:32 little uh your H what’s the terminal but
00:56:36 the little part of
00:56:38 the qualifying statement that he had if
00:56:40 they’re fulfilling what God told them to
00:56:42 do right right in fact along that line
00:56:46 since we’re talking kosher a little bit
00:56:48 um pigs are God’s garbage disposals so
00:56:52 are shrimp so are
00:56:54 crabs and yet people think they’re good
00:56:56 to eat anyways in fact
00:57:00 so I I’ll show you this one screen we go
00:57:03 back but uh on my kosher Resource page
00:57:06 uh I have Thou shalt not murder okay
00:57:09 that’s one of the Ten Commandments
00:57:11 right so I do believe all the other
00:57:15 Commandments are clarification of the of
00:57:18 the 10 and the kosher laws and this is
00:57:22 how I put at the top of my little kosher
00:57:24 page that sh not murder open princes
00:57:27 including yourself slowly by eating
00:57:29 toxic
00:57:34 food non kosher animals are toxic and
00:57:38 there’s scientific evidence that shows
00:57:40 that yeah I’ve actually backed off a lot
00:57:44 on
00:57:49 I for my own self I’ve actually backed a
00:57:55 lot backed off a lot
00:57:57 on eating what I know is to not be
00:58:01 kosher food you know um uh meaning you
00:58:05 do eat it or you don’t eat it I
00:58:08 have I I don’t eat it so much anymore I
00:58:11 don’t I haven’t enjoyed a BAC a piece of
00:58:14 bacon
00:58:17 for a long time now go go eat turkey
00:58:20 bacon but I even before I was kosher I
00:58:23 don’t know why but my my family hated
00:58:26 Pig bait we had turkey bacon and I loved
00:58:29 that I still did and that’s C I think it
00:58:32 tastes better anyways well here’s the
00:58:34 thing turkey bacon is technically
00:58:38 basically it’s turkey based
00:58:40 baloney and you can get the same out of
00:58:43 just frying up a piece of baloney and
00:58:45 you can get beef Baloney anywhere you
00:58:47 want you know I mean most store will
00:58:51 sell beef based baloney but I’ve kind of
00:58:55 I’m I’m I’m kind of objectionable to
00:58:59 turkey bacon and baloney on the basis of
00:59:02 it’s a highly processed meat they have
00:59:05 to process it a lot in order to get it
00:59:09 such a
00:59:10 way um I mean don’t give me wrong I
00:59:12 didn’t know turkey bacon was highly
00:59:14 processed but I know Bel dogs is you
00:59:17 have to process the crap out of it to
00:59:19 get a natural turkey to look at all like
00:59:24 bacon so
00:59:26 it just on along those lines and SS like
00:59:29 you’re trying to be more healthy the
00:59:30 more that you can avoid fat um and and
00:59:35 organs also um the better too because
00:59:39 it’s the fat and the organs that hold
00:59:41 most of the diseases even in the kosher
00:59:46 animals so anyways just another little
00:59:49 tidbit I can give you here’s I’ll give
00:59:51 you my kosher Resource page I I can’t
00:59:54 right now for some reason in like it’s
00:59:56 not bringing up the chat I don’t know
00:59:58 why oh there it is that’s weird come up
01:00:02 here here’s
01:00:04 the and I give a lot of details on that
01:00:08 U maybe more than you want but uh I’m
01:00:11 happy to talk about things um and then
01:00:15 here’s just my general kism Resource
01:00:18 page since we’re kind of okay talking
01:00:20 about that earlier
01:00:23 also that’s what I think we were talking
01:00:25 before
01:00:27 paused the recording actually
01:00:29 anyways um I for me I mean I ate un
01:00:35 kosher before like I told you I ate dog
01:00:38 when I went to Korea because it was part
01:00:39 of their culture and I liked it it
01:00:41 tasted like lamb actually um but I won’t
01:00:44 do it again now that I’m kosher right I
01:00:47 mean it’s like when you know better you
01:00:50 just do better you know oh yeah yeah or
01:00:53 you’re you expect it to do better if you
01:00:56 know better that’s all yeah yeah yeah
01:00:58 growing up my my family liked eating pig
01:01:01 ham right oh yeah I could eat some but I
01:01:05 couldn’t eat a lot my family liked
01:01:07 shrimp I could eat a little bit I didn’t
01:01:09 like a lot so most of the things that
01:01:12 people like that’s not Kosher I just
01:01:15 never I could eat a little but I could
01:01:17 never eat a lot of it so I really I’m
01:01:20 still kind of weak to shrimp it was easy
01:01:23 for me because I didn’t really like it
01:01:25 those things in first place well God
01:01:28 blessed you there I guess but uh yeah I
01:01:33 I every once in a while our family will
01:01:36 have like a seafood dinner and pretty
01:01:39 much the only thing I you know the only
01:01:41 thing that I’ll I really feel like
01:01:45 touching is the shrimp at this point so
01:01:47 I guess that’s my my big weakness as far
01:01:50 as I I still like sushi I don’t know if
01:01:52 you like sushi or not but I’m just
01:01:54 careful about sushi I eat cuz I won’t
01:01:55 eat sushi with um like shrimp or crab or
01:01:59 were the biggest two offenders in the
01:02:01 sushi world right I’m not so bad with an
01:02:04 imitation crab because imitation crab
01:02:06 tends to be made out of
01:02:08 codfish yeah it’s it’s uh but you know I
01:02:12 get what you’re saying with the real
01:02:14 crab and stuff I mean you know and I oh
01:02:19 God crab is such a can be such a sweet
01:02:22 meat but I don’t know I just I it’s it’s
01:02:26 got toxins in it just so you’re aware oh
01:02:28 yeah I know I know I mean it’s un kosher
01:02:30 just like but it’s like so I haven’t
01:02:35 been I I I’ve been feeling less inclin
01:02:39 like a lot less inclined to even eat
01:02:42 crab I still have a weakness for shrimp
01:02:46 but I just I don’t know I just don’t
01:02:48 find crab appealing anymore I never
01:02:51 liked any real that type of seafood or
01:02:54 um
01:02:56 shellfish ever I mean I could eat it but
01:02:59 I could never eat a lot of it so I got
01:03:02 lucky on that so it wasn’t any big
01:03:05 sacrifice on my point hang on one
01:03:11 sec would you not want when you talk
01:03:15 please do you need to use some hot pads
01:03:18 or
01:03:19 [Music]
01:03:22 anything you burn herself uh no it’s
01:03:26 that the so she’s using the microwave to
01:03:28 cook some food and the microwave had a
01:03:31 tendency of warming up the um containers
01:03:34 in container yeah yeah so all right well
01:03:38 anyways if you want our food scientific
01:03:41 is a really good video um and there’s
01:03:43 another one that’s about science on here
01:03:47 too I don’t know I need I I think I need
01:03:50 to stop you right there about the whole
01:03:51 posting references because given me one
01:03:56 two three four five six seven eight nine
01:04:01 things to go look at including a video
01:04:04 and I haven’t had a chance to go look at
01:04:08 any of them and I I don’t know if I’m
01:04:10 gonna be able to I’m I’m GNA try to do
01:04:13 the
01:04:14 video uh but I don’t know how much I’m
01:04:17 going to be able to get to no that’s
01:04:19 fine I I I’m just trying to be helpful
01:04:22 and I’m happy to talk about things too
01:04:24 that’s why I’m here right right right um
01:04:27 but oh here here’s here’s one thing with
01:04:30 us shared LDS background but here can I
01:04:33 start recording you are recording you’ve
01:04:36 been recording this whole
01:04:37 time uh no am I really it says
01:04:42 recording oh man I okay just have to
01:04:48 go anyways here let’s do this so LDS
01:04:52 leaders used to teach that we should be
01:04:56 kosher I have a quote from Bram young
01:04:59 and here’s one George wait wait wait I
01:05:04 need to back you up just a little bit
01:05:05 just a little bit okay
01:05:07 because um you you
01:05:12 have you’re you’re not a you don’t find
01:05:15 Brigham Young to be in good standing for
01:05:18 a lot of I don’t
01:05:20 like I don’t like I’ll be honest I don’t
01:05:23 like any three of these people the
01:05:24 reason I have it here is those who do
01:05:27 like them to help them wake
01:05:30 up you’re there because well I mean it’s
01:05:33 is true young and I’ll say it on the
01:05:35 recording was a tyrant and a horn dog
01:05:38 and the worst thing that happened to the
01:05:40 restoration I don’t like him I only use
01:05:42 it to help people who may like him to
01:05:45 wake up to the Drew koser well I guess I
01:05:49 think it’s fair to say that perhaps he
01:05:53 served his purpose perhaps not in the
01:05:55 the
01:05:56 most God not in the most Godly way that
01:05:59 he could have
01:06:01 but God finds a way of using God uses
01:06:05 evil for good so I’ll agree with you on
01:06:07 that point yeah I I have a very poor
01:06:12 opinion about him and I’m honest about
01:06:13 my bias
01:06:15 but um yeah go read my king briam post
01:06:18 if you haven’t I I I go verse by verse
01:06:22 comparing him to King
01:06:24 Noah and it
01:06:26 fits
01:06:28 anyways but uh Brigham Young taught we
01:06:31 should be
01:06:32 kosher George te still thought we should
01:06:34 be kosher and George Q Canon thought we
01:06:37 should be kosher and it does make sense
01:06:41 um I just I need to and I will I’ll I’ll
01:06:46 get this stuff figured
01:06:47 out um sure I’m I’m happy to to help
01:06:51 with it I mean I I I there there’s a few
01:06:55 more I could add here and one thing I
01:06:58 could do here is like categorize them
01:07:01 different ways like recently I mean
01:07:04 here’s one that I’ve never I never liked
01:07:06 mushrooms period And I don’t believe
01:07:09 they’re kosher initially I just thought
01:07:12 it just in the principle that they
01:07:13 weren’t but this one right here actually
01:07:15 talks about how it they’re they’re just
01:07:18 not Kosher period from the scriptures
01:07:21 standpoint this that you got here huh so
01:07:25 you got this Meme here at the bottom oh
01:07:28 you like that does this Doctrine sound
01:07:30 familiar I have to say I feel a little
01:07:32 triggered I’m gonna have to think about
01:07:35 this and wonder I’m gonna have to think
01:07:36 about this and figure out what my
01:07:38 problem is but that’s another topic Al
01:07:42 together talking about how some not all
01:07:44 food is good oh I know I know I mean
01:07:47 it’s it’s perfect reference for this
01:07:50 subject article but it just the the
01:07:57 there’s just something about it that’s
01:07:59 that’s triggering me and I’ll figure it
01:08:02 out is it because e was
01:08:08 deceived I think it’s more a fact that I
01:08:12 don’t think she actually did she
01:08:14 actually say I don’t remember her
01:08:16 actually the Book of Mormon in second
01:08:18 Nei it doesn’t matter 2 says she was
01:08:21 deceived book of Moses says it’s the
01:08:24 quote Genesis says she’s
01:08:27 deceived even if she’s deceived I’ve
01:08:29 been more deceived than she has been so
01:08:32 I’m I’m not degrading women okay I’m not
01:08:35 saying you’re degrading women I’m saying
01:08:38 I I think what is triggering me is that
01:08:41 I don’t think she ever
01:08:43 said this to
01:08:46 Adam
01:08:48 about
01:08:50 eating it’s what’s in our hearts that
01:08:52 matters that that that so oh that’s not
01:08:56 a direct quote they’re they’re twisting
01:08:58 it a little bit put the yeah that’s
01:09:00 that’s what maybe that’s what’s
01:09:01 triggering you and I’m not triggered
01:09:03 about it but I know it’s not a direct
01:09:04 quote they’re they’ve changed it a
01:09:07 little bit to get to the point of eating
01:09:11 the wrong thing right because I mean we
01:09:15 eat physically and spiritually and both
01:09:17 and all the scriptures talk about that
01:09:20 right um right and but I the the
01:09:25 [Music]
01:09:26 the that history is interesting I
01:09:29 actually believe the fruit of the tree
01:09:31 of knowledge of Good and Evil is
01:09:37 sinning it’s when you sin is when you
01:09:40 become so knowledge in the scriptures
01:09:43 has to do with intimate knowledge not
01:09:45 just like us helenistic that think it’s
01:09:49 theological knowledge well I think it’s
01:09:51 intimate knowledge knowledge in the
01:09:54 Bible is intimate
01:09:56 so how I understand it and this is
01:09:59 probably just a repackaging okay of what
01:10:01 you said the difference
01:10:04 [Music]
01:10:05 between knowing and
01:10:09 understanding or wisdom uh you know
01:10:14 information education and wisdom is
01:10:20 experience sure and you can only
01:10:24 experience
01:10:25 if you go through the process of doing
01:10:28 something right well um the the problem
01:10:32 is is that we are trying to glean from
01:10:37 Hub huic thought from helenistic
01:10:41 translations and that brings yeah again
01:10:44 that whole you know it’s that trying to
01:10:47 see trying to understand from our
01:10:51 cultural context through the lens of
01:10:54 another cultural context of another
01:10:56 culture God right and and what I’m
01:10:59 trying to bring out here is knowledge in
01:11:02 the H thought is intimate just like Adam
01:11:07 knew Eve he was intimate and then they
01:11:09 had a child because they were intimate
01:11:13 right and when we sin we uh become very
01:11:18 knowledgeable of the effects of Good and
01:11:22 Evil yeah I mean it’s
01:11:25 it
01:11:27 is you
01:11:30 don’t understand the
01:11:33 suffering of what’s what you might
01:11:36 inflict until you’ve suffered it until
01:11:40 you’ve lived through it you know I mean
01:11:42 it’s one thing to hit somebody with a
01:11:44 stick it’s another thing to be hit by a
01:11:46 stick you know uh oh yeah and there’s
01:11:50 also with the knowledge part I mean you
01:11:53 even today right we see humans changing
01:11:56 what’s right and wrong according to the
01:11:59 government all the time and some of that
01:12:01 is because the government’s corrupt but
01:12:03 some of it also is because there are
01:12:07 some people at least initially who get
01:12:08 in it are trying to do good and they’re
01:12:10 trying to make the laws better because
01:12:12 they’ve seen that the laws in the past
01:12:15 had some problems so they’re trying to
01:12:17 fix it and so this is where man’s trying
01:12:20 to they’ve come with an intimate
01:12:22 knowledge that what was what man thought
01:12:24 was right before now another man is
01:12:27 trying to go make it right in his own
01:12:30 eyes because of the the knowledge that
01:12:32 they gain from it and be and this as we
01:12:37 get the intimate knowledge in fact I’m a
01:12:39 software engineer I do this all the time
01:12:40 with my code as I learn more I go tweak
01:12:43 it a little bit I’m getting very
01:12:45 intimate with my code if that makes
01:12:47 sense because how everything’s
01:12:50 interacting with each other and that’s
01:12:51 what as humans are trying to we’re doing
01:12:54 we’re becoming with the the good and
01:12:56 evil and what we try to present with our
01:12:59 own ey
01:13:00 ideas and um there’s consequences that
01:13:04 goes along with this and when we
01:13:09 sin we come very aware of those effects
01:13:13 and I yeah I actually
01:13:18 believe that the fruit was that they
01:13:22 sinned um just like right righteousness
01:13:25 is fruit in the tree of life with lehi’s
01:13:29 vision and Nephi’s Vision it’s our
01:13:33 righteous these are the fruit but
01:13:35 anyways that’s a another
01:13:38 subject um anyway um they are twisting
01:13:42 the quote a little bit so that’s
01:13:44 probably what’s triggering you yeah um
01:13:47 just really quick I think I would like
01:13:49 to go at 10 so uh is that like an eight
01:13:54 minutes yeah do you want
01:13:57 Sacrament uh yes I think I do let me go
01:14:01 get so let’s focus on that so I’m gonna
01:14:04 stop
01:14:06 recording okay