Scripture Study 2022-08-26 Law of Moses

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Mostly talked about how the Law of Moses [daily performances and ordinances] is pointing to Yeshua’s atonement.

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00:00:00 computer
00:00:02 recording in progress all right oh so so
00:00:06 like yoda so i wanted to say something
00:00:08 really quick uh
00:00:09 yoda is satan and i’ll leave it at that
00:00:11 unless you guys want to get into details
00:00:13 but um
00:00:15 i can stay on this other subject no i’m
00:00:17 not joking i’m being serious
00:00:19 oh well i’m but i’m not laughing i’m not
00:00:22 laughing from the point of view of it
00:00:23 being a joke
00:00:26 yeah okay all right so um
00:00:30 where to start share screen we’ll go
00:00:33 here
00:00:34 um i’ve been kind of
00:00:36 the last little while i’ve been
00:00:39 this is to help with the post on
00:00:41 sacrifices continuing we can look at
00:00:43 that a little bit but
00:00:45 um
00:00:48 there’s a sticky point on this subject
00:00:51 and i think
00:00:53 jews and christians get this wrong and
00:00:56 um and this is probably where a lot of
00:01:02 a pivotal point of the debate whether
00:01:05 the law has been
00:01:06 done away or not is this right here the
00:01:08 law of moses the law of moses is not
00:01:11 torah
00:01:13 so
00:01:14 we’ll just start with daniel 70
00:01:17 the 70-week prophecy and we’ll just
00:01:20 focus on one little verse here
00:01:22 so
00:01:24 um
00:01:26 daniel 9
00:01:28 uh is about this prophecy of 70
00:01:32 weeks
00:01:33 of years right so 490 years right
00:01:38 so in the last week
00:01:41 um
00:01:44 he
00:01:45 and i mean
00:01:47 we could go look at the rest i can get
00:01:49 my uh
00:01:51 the full chapter up but i i like that
00:01:54 this verse and debris and study bible i
00:01:56 think has a better translation because
00:01:59 and king james it put obligations
00:02:01 instead of offerings and so it makes it
00:02:03 a little more confusing
00:02:05 um right
00:02:09 right now that’s what i’ve got so
00:02:12 uh
00:02:13 how about that the hebrew will be behind
00:02:15 obligations is offerings and the breed
00:02:18 study bible um shows that
00:02:21 and um if you go to my favorite site for
00:02:24 bible stuff is bible hub
00:02:27 okay
00:02:28 um
00:02:30 it’s
00:02:32 it’s a little annoying that uh you can’t
00:02:35 really study verse through a verse in it
00:02:37 it’s
00:02:38 more you look at one verse at a time but
00:02:40 then you can go look at the interlinear
00:02:42 which i do at times or just go click on
00:02:45 one word to go look at the greek and the
00:02:46 hebrew behind it and stuff like that
00:02:49 um
00:02:51 because when we look at someone’s
00:02:52 translation we’re also looking at their
00:02:55 theology
00:02:57 um
00:02:58 that’s true
00:02:59 and and in some cases that’s more
00:03:01 evident than others um
00:03:05 you just you need to keep it in mind as
00:03:07 you’re um looking at translations
00:03:11 especially from scholars right and
00:03:14 king james
00:03:16 um the scholars that he used there i i
00:03:20 believe some of them were jesuits and
00:03:22 there are some things that they did that
00:03:24 i think were intentionally wrong but
00:03:26 that’s a whole another discussion
00:03:29 yeah jesuits is a discussion all on its
00:03:31 own uh yes that’s a big discussion um
00:03:36 but i i i mean
00:03:38 the good thing about the king james is
00:03:40 it it went it got to the people a lot
00:03:42 more than some of the other ones before
00:03:44 it but i think some of the other ones
00:03:47 were better but that’s a whole other
00:03:48 discussion also
00:03:50 but back to this so and he will confirm
00:03:53 a covenant
00:03:54 with many for one week and that’s kind
00:03:56 of what i was just talking about um you
00:03:58 know the one week with the song
00:04:01 um and with the altar
00:04:03 but in the middle of the week he will
00:04:05 put an end to sacrifice and i added
00:04:08 burnt here that’s why i got it in the
00:04:10 you know on the square brackets
00:04:12 offerings the same word from exodus 29
00:04:16 41
00:04:17 but
00:04:18 exodus and so i’m not just making this
00:04:20 stuff up exodus 29 41 has to do with the
00:04:23 the burnt offerings the daily
00:04:25 performances and ordinances which we can
00:04:27 get into in a little bit oh yeah yeah um
00:04:31 but
00:04:33 and on the wing of the temple came
00:04:36 abomination that causes desolation until
00:04:39 the decree of discretion is poured out
00:04:41 upon them so
00:04:43 what i get here this last so this first
00:04:46 part is talking about how
00:04:48 something went away
00:04:51 and
00:04:52 this term sacrifice and offerings are
00:04:55 better put sacrifice and burnt offerings
00:04:58 has to do with the daily performances
00:05:00 and ordinances okay
00:05:03 and now if you believe
00:05:05 the 70 weeks have already happened as i
00:05:08 do
00:05:08 in fact jesus was up on the mount crying
00:05:12 that they didn’t recognize it was the
00:05:13 time now because
00:05:15 they had daniel
00:05:17 they should have known it was time but
00:05:19 they didn’t recognize him
00:05:22 anyways i know there most people
00:05:26 think uh daniel 9 the last week will
00:05:28 happen later
00:05:30 i don’t believe that uh i believe that
00:05:32 came from the jesuits and got
00:05:34 preparated throughout um christodom and
00:05:38 they accept it
00:05:40 and there and we can talk about some
00:05:42 other problems with that theory that
00:05:43 kind of actually goes along with the the
00:05:45 article that i’m working on right now
00:05:47 actually
00:05:48 um
00:05:49 but so but this last part i think has to
00:05:52 do with uh the destruction of the temple
00:05:55 which christ prophesied you know the
00:05:58 sign of jonah they rejected him 40 years
00:06:00 later
00:06:01 temple destroyed which is another reason
00:06:04 why i think christ died in 30 a.d
00:06:10 because 40 years later
00:06:11 70 a.d temple was destroyed
00:06:15 um
00:06:16 the yeah so
00:06:17 the other thing is do you think that
00:06:19 this has a letter and you you do you
00:06:22 believe that this has a latter-day
00:06:23 connotation with anything related to
00:06:26 uh potentially our temples
00:06:28 well um
00:06:30 just just yes or no i wouldn’t actually
00:06:32 put it that way though
00:06:34 um
00:06:35 but i i believe what this is saying is
00:06:38 the
00:06:39 daily performances and ordinances are
00:06:42 done
00:06:43 they’re done away okay right and
00:06:46 nothing else was just that because it
00:06:49 acts which we can go look at and uh well
00:06:51 i have notes to put in my article
00:06:53 actually
00:06:54 paul did
00:06:56 the nazarite vow which includes animal
00:06:59 sacrifice and this was after he became a
00:07:02 believer
00:07:04 uh he so
00:07:05 you know he saw christ right and then he
00:07:08 disappeared for three years
00:07:10 uh i believe he went to mount sinai i
00:07:12 i’m not absolutely sure if that’s
00:07:14 scriptural or not i i think he got
00:07:17 tutored by yeshua and then he came back
00:07:21 and then he did you want to say
00:07:23 something gary
00:07:25 no
00:07:26 okay you just split up again so it must
00:07:27 be background noise again um and then he
00:07:29 came back and you know the apostle to
00:07:32 the gentiles is the common phrase for
00:07:35 him
00:07:35 he first tried to teach the jews but the
00:07:37 jews wouldn’t listen so he got fed up
00:07:39 and was like okay i’m gonna go teach
00:07:40 other people
00:07:42 um
00:07:43 but uh i believe that’s part of the
00:07:45 times of the gentiles he kind of helped
00:07:47 get that
00:07:48 going but anyways
00:07:50 um
00:07:51 so
00:07:52 we can look at the rest of the
00:07:54 70-week prophecy but for me the big part
00:07:57 is is that first
00:08:00 portion of 9 27
00:08:02 yeah
00:08:03 talking about the offering
00:08:05 yeah
00:08:06 christ was that offering
00:08:08 the
00:08:09 you know fulfill is an interesting word
00:08:12 fulfill has multiple meanings to it
00:08:15 and i shared something on facebook
00:08:17 earlier today where and i specifically
00:08:20 stated that
00:08:21 what he was talking about was actually
00:08:23 to perfectly preach and do
00:08:27 yeah so um here let me get this one up
00:08:30 so on uh on the one in sermon on the
00:08:33 mount
00:08:34 which uh
00:08:35 is the one that gets debated most of the
00:08:37 time
00:08:38 and uh it does mean what you’re saying
00:08:42 and i’ll
00:08:43 uh i don’t have this out yet
00:08:47 it’s in this one i have a lot that i
00:08:49 need
00:08:50 something working on a lot of stuff uh
00:08:53 oh that’s nothing in my one note i have
00:08:55 a lot more these are ones i’m just more
00:08:57 actively working on
00:08:59 um i i have a problem with the the
00:09:02 current shiny thing sometimes and also
00:09:04 some of it gets
00:09:06 i get a little burnt out sometimes so i
00:09:07 need a break but i don’t actually just
00:09:09 completely stop i just go work on
00:09:11 something else um because sometimes i i
00:09:13 put a lot of heart and thought into
00:09:15 these things but anyways
00:09:18 um
00:09:19 so matthew oh that skipped around that
00:09:22 was funny
00:09:26 apparently i’m not a wordpress expert
00:09:28 either you know why you said someone
00:09:30 forgive
00:09:33 oh
00:09:34 where i
00:09:36 oh here we go okay so the fulfill that
00:09:39 gets argued a lot that’s in matthew 5
00:09:43 behind it
00:09:44 is pleirue in greek and pleiru means
00:09:48 fully preached as shows in the gnaws
00:09:50 exact
00:09:51 exhaustive coordinates fully preached
00:09:54 there’s greek lexicon fully preached and
00:09:58 it gives them sacrament
00:10:00 anybody who actually reads paul’s words
00:10:04 and thinks that he was anti torah
00:10:07 is really lazy
00:10:10 that’s a good word for it and they take
00:10:12 it out of context
00:10:13 and part of it though is also um
00:10:16 translations issue again
00:10:18 because there’s times where paul will
00:10:21 say you keep this law but you don’t keep
00:10:23 this law the problem is be in the greek
00:10:26 there are different greek words but the
00:10:27 english translation
00:10:30 only puts law and one is the false
00:10:33 traditions of men law
00:10:35 and the other one is god’s torah law
00:10:39 so
00:10:40 um
00:10:43 yeah
00:10:44 i i like how you said if you’re lazy
00:10:46 you’re gonna get deceived on it but on
00:10:49 uh peter said that paul’s words are hard
00:10:51 to understand for the untrained and most
00:10:53 people who go read that are untrained
00:10:56 yeah you’ve got a point
00:10:58 i mean i i’m just quoting i mean that’s
00:11:01 not exactly i can go get the exact quote
00:11:03 if you want
00:11:04 but that’s yeah that’s what peter said
00:11:06 yeah um
00:11:08 paul’s birds are hard to understand yeah
00:11:11 and and people will fall away because
00:11:13 they twist it i think is in there too
00:11:15 which is
00:11:17 the majority of christendom um but
00:11:19 anyways
00:11:20 so greek’s exhaustive concordance fully
00:11:22 preached
00:11:24 now here’s some examples romans 15
00:11:26 9
00:11:27 team by the power of signs and wonders
00:11:30 and by the power of the holy spirit from
00:11:32 jerusalem all the way around to
00:11:34 the quran i have fully preached aka peru
00:11:38 which is in matthew
00:11:39 5 was it 17 yeah um
00:11:43 [Music]
00:11:44 the gospel of christ he fully preached
00:11:46 the gospel of christ
00:11:47 colossians 1 25 i want
00:11:50 i became its servant by the commission
00:11:52 of god gave me to
00:11:54 fully proclaim which is fully preached
00:11:57 right i mean if you’re gonna gabble over
00:12:00 uh preach and proclaim
00:12:03 you need a life sorry
00:12:06 to use the word of god
00:12:08 now this is this is called uh yeah yeah
00:12:12 that’s called nitpicking
00:12:14 yeah
00:12:15 uh and wrestling the word of god would
00:12:17 be another way of putting it
00:12:20 anyways
00:12:21 um
00:12:24 god’s words
00:12:25 are images
00:12:27 they’re teaching concepts through images
00:12:30 and if you can’t see the image
00:12:32 you won’t understand it
00:12:35 there it’s a paintbrush
00:12:37 i mean i’m not a painter but i do like
00:12:39 pictures
00:12:40 um in fact someone uh made a picture for
00:12:43 me for my app that i’m almost
00:12:45 publishing i gave him the basic uh
00:12:49 criteria for it and then he made it um
00:12:53 here i’ll just show you
00:12:54 real quick just because it’s really nice
00:12:57 uh let me get it real quick
00:12:59 um
00:13:03 hold on
00:13:04 i gotta open an app all these apps
00:13:10 uh
00:13:11 where’s
00:13:12 browse
00:13:15 what
00:13:17 okay
00:13:24 oh there we go okay
00:13:25 [Music]
00:13:35 uh gary you’ll like this picture
00:13:37 um
00:13:38 because it’s on the subject of uh how we
00:13:41 uh kind of came together
00:13:43 [Music]
00:13:46 um let’s do that
00:13:48 and
00:13:49 [Music]
00:13:56 so here here’s my uh
00:14:00 emblem that i got someone to make for me
00:14:02 for my calendar app and gary you like
00:14:04 that is how it’s got the sun
00:14:06 and the moon
00:14:08 no stars
00:14:09 and shadows on a sundial
00:14:12 and that’s done very potentially
00:14:15 um
00:14:16 and so i i told the guy the idea and he
00:14:19 was graceful enough to uh make it for me
00:14:22 he he he gets lifetime pro of the app
00:14:25 though um
00:14:27 but
00:14:28 i think he did a really good job i like
00:14:29 it he’s got craters on the moon and it’s
00:14:31 got the
00:14:32 numbers for the sundial and there’s the
00:14:35 the shadow of the tail the time on the
00:14:37 sundial um that’s black actually
00:14:40 yeah uh i like it i think he did a good
00:14:42 job um
00:14:44 android man they did a a change where
00:14:48 splash screens don’t always work now
00:14:50 which i’m like annoyed at so i actually
00:14:52 did
00:14:54 a
00:14:55 a page in the app just so people can
00:14:57 look at the emblem because i think he
00:14:58 did a really good job but anyways
00:15:01 um
00:15:03 where was i i got sidetracked um so we
00:15:05 didn’t
00:15:05 [Music]
00:15:07 uh anyways fully preach
00:15:09 fully preached that’s where we were yeah
00:15:12 i
00:15:13 and i think it’s a good way to say the
00:15:15 only way reason someone would think
00:15:16 otherwise because they’re lazy and
00:15:18 they’re not really digging into the word
00:15:20 which
00:15:21 sadly seems to be most people right um
00:15:25 but anyways yeah well most most people
00:15:29 don’t seem
00:15:31 most people don’t seem to realize what
00:15:33 is actually entailed in the idea of the
00:15:36 restitution of all things
00:15:38 for the restoration
00:15:41 yes yeah and i have a good quote on that
00:15:44 too that actually goes with this um so
00:15:47 uh we i thought here i’ll just
00:15:51 let’s share uh oh that’s not let let me
00:15:55 get it somewhere else that’s more nicely
00:15:57 formatted hold on
00:15:59 um
00:16:03 let’s see hopefully i can get it here
00:16:07 so
00:16:12 sometimes when i copy into onenote
00:16:14 um so this is the post i’m doing the
00:16:16 bill the tempo is rent because people
00:16:18 think that means the temple’s been done
00:16:20 away with it’s not and i i i show stuff
00:16:22 from
00:16:24 the top knock on that we’ll kind of skip
00:16:26 a lot of this for now we can go back
00:16:27 over it later and i even have the talmud
00:16:29 in here
00:16:31 oh
00:16:32 anyways
00:16:34 no but it’s more just to confirm what
00:16:36 happened
00:16:37 um
00:16:38 so i i i actually don’t like the talmud
00:16:40 too much i generally avoid it but
00:16:42 anyways because it it’s mostly all
00:16:44 traditions of men
00:16:46 there’s a lot of opinions
00:16:48 yes yes it is it’s opinions of rabbis
00:16:51 that they’re just arguing over with each
00:16:53 other there’s just arguments you’re
00:16:55 arguing with each other over what it
00:16:57 should be now
00:16:59 when didn’t jesus christ said that say
00:17:01 the part the part of
00:17:05 there’s not supposed to be disputations
00:17:08 yeah okay so
00:17:09 we can get into that um but
00:17:13 so
00:17:14 profits depending how you look at it
00:17:16 they caused juice to patients all the
00:17:18 time because they went out and told what
00:17:19 was actually true and people hated it
00:17:22 right
00:17:23 right so we got to be careful with that
00:17:26 yeah just because some people will say
00:17:28 well you can’t argue anything either way
00:17:31 because you know you can’t have
00:17:32 disputations that’s not what’s going on
00:17:34 in fact yeah
00:17:35 to publish peace
00:17:37 is preaching the truth
00:17:39 because the only way to get truth
00:17:42 is to live the truth
00:17:45 yeah and that can only be happen if you
00:17:47 know the truth when people were
00:17:49 proclaiming it
00:17:52 and that
00:17:54 and and the thing is that the truth
00:17:56 hasn’t changed from the beginning of the
00:17:58 world no it hasn’t
00:18:01 adam had torah
00:18:02 yeah
00:18:03 and i know book of mormon verses that
00:18:05 say that but uh i’m going to get a
00:18:07 sidetracked but anyway
00:18:08 we’re about to go off down another all
00:18:10 right
00:18:11 it’s anyways
00:18:13 um i have a tendency to do that i bounce
00:18:16 around yeah so do i that’s why lately
00:18:18 some of my blogs don’t get finished
00:18:22 bouncing around
00:18:24 um
00:18:25 into the the current shiny thing anyways
00:18:28 uh so here’s a quote from joseph smith
00:18:30 about this and and
00:18:33 even if you really look at it uh it
00:18:35 shows that torah
00:18:37 and
00:18:39 um
00:18:40 law of moses are different when you
00:18:41 actually start looking at this quote um
00:18:45 which i i thought about it a few times
00:18:47 um
00:18:48 but also
00:18:50 the scriptures teach the same thing in
00:18:52 fact
00:18:53 i’ll just say this real quick
00:18:55 which is one thing i’m going to be
00:18:56 putting in this but i haven’t yet but
00:18:58 um
00:18:59 when john said behold the lamb of god
00:19:03 he was not referring to passover lamb he
00:19:05 was referring to the daily performance
00:19:07 as an ordinance islam
00:19:12 everything that happened during his last
00:19:14 hours
00:19:17 patterns
00:19:19 the daily performances and ordinances
00:19:23 which
00:19:24 um
00:19:26 the book of mormon tells us is
00:19:27 foreshadows
00:19:29 christ’s coming
00:19:31 then we can get into that too um but
00:19:34 anyways
00:19:35 um
00:19:36 most people though because you’ll see a
00:19:38 lot of restorationists
00:19:40 quoting these verses
00:19:42 and taking it out of context a big part
00:19:45 of it is though because they don’t know
00:19:46 there’s a difference between law moses
00:19:48 and torah
00:19:50 and this quote from joseph smith even
00:19:51 shows this and when you look further
00:19:53 into the book of mormon course which we
00:19:55 can look at into
00:19:56 shows that
00:19:58 also
00:20:00 and
00:20:01 um i think the daniel 9 27 shows that
00:20:04 once you start digging in the details
00:20:06 the book of mormon ones i think bringing
00:20:08 it out even more than that but
00:20:11 uh daniel 9 27 does it pause
00:20:14 one of the things one of the things that
00:20:16 i’ve
00:20:17 quoted to people a lot is mosiah 12
00:20:21 through
00:20:22 12 through
00:20:23 i i yeah late 12 um mate 12 through 14 i
00:20:28 go through that which clearly indicates
00:20:31 the difference between definitely the
00:20:33 commandments and the law of moses uh
00:20:36 mosaic 13 is a i think a better one for
00:20:39 you on that and i’ll show it to you in a
00:20:40 little bit um then the mosaic 12 ones
00:20:44 but they’re they’re along the same uh
00:20:46 speech right yeah it’s it’s all in the
00:20:49 same it’s all in the same um
00:20:51 it’s all in the same discourse yeah it’s
00:20:53 in the same discourse or sitting or
00:20:56 whatever in fact it’s right after they
00:20:58 tried to kill him which is interesting
00:21:00 on that
00:21:03 they’re thinking
00:21:04 in there and this is a problem with
00:21:06 the jews even today still that the law
00:21:09 of moses will save them
00:21:14 and um they were thinking that and then
00:21:18 when abinadi tells them that god’s going
00:21:20 to come down among the children of men
00:21:22 that’s what they burned him for
00:21:25 because they’re like god can’t do that
00:21:28 but that’s what the law actually
00:21:30 testifies on when you actually look at
00:21:32 it that he
00:21:34 god himself came down to atone for the
00:21:36 sins of the world
00:21:38 anyways so
00:21:40 here um
00:21:42 do you want to read this
00:21:44 ben okay just so that way i’m not always
00:21:47 the only one talking all right
00:21:49 now the purpose in himself
00:21:51 yeshua jesus is the winding up scene of
00:21:54 the last in the winding up scene of the
00:21:56 last dispensation is
00:21:58 that
00:21:59 all things pertaining to that
00:22:01 dispensation should be conducted
00:22:03 precisely in accordance with the
00:22:05 preceding dispensation
00:22:08 and again
00:22:09 god purpose in himself
00:22:12 that there should be
00:22:14 that there should not be an eternal
00:22:16 fullness until every dispensation should
00:22:19 be fulfilled
00:22:20 and
00:22:21 uh
00:22:22 and gathered together in one therefore
00:22:24 he set the ordinances to be the same
00:22:27 forever and ever thus we behold the keys
00:22:29 of this priesthood consisted in
00:22:31 obtaining the voice of jehovah
00:22:34 that he talked with him noah in a
00:22:36 familiar and friendly manner and that he
00:22:38 continued to him the keys the covenants
00:22:42 the power and the glory which he
00:22:44 with which he blessed adam at the
00:22:46 beginning and the offering of sacrifice
00:22:48 which also shall be continued at the at
00:22:51 the last time
00:22:52 so
00:22:55 i just want to
00:22:57 sorry i’m interrupting but the
00:22:58 continuing of offering of sacrifice
00:23:01 shall be continued
00:23:05 yep at the last time for all the
00:23:07 ordinances and duties that ever have
00:23:09 been required by the priesthood under
00:23:11 the directions of the commandments of
00:23:12 the almighty and any of the
00:23:14 dispensations shall all be had in the
00:23:17 last dispensation therefore all things
00:23:20 had under the authority of the
00:23:21 priesthood at any former period shall be
00:23:24 had again bringing to pass the
00:23:26 restoration spoken of by the mouth of
00:23:29 all the holy prophets then shall the
00:23:32 sons of levi offer an acceptable
00:23:34 offering to the lord and he shall sit as
00:23:36 a refiner and purifier of silver and he
00:23:39 shall purify the sons of levi and purge
00:23:41 them as gold and silver that they may
00:23:44 offer unto the lord that they may offer
00:23:46 unto the lord malachi 3
00:23:48 3-4 it is generally supposed that
00:23:51 sacrifice was entirely a wave
00:23:54 when the great sacrifice
00:23:56 uh the sacrifice of the lord yahweh
00:23:58 jesus yeshua was offered up and that
00:24:01 there will
00:24:03 that there will be no necessity for the
00:24:05 ordinance of sacrifice in the future but
00:24:07 those who assert this are certainly not
00:24:09 acquainted with the duties privileges
00:24:12 and authority of the priesthood or with
00:24:14 the prophets
00:24:17 wow
00:24:18 yeah i like it
00:24:23 the offering of sacrifice has ever been
00:24:26 connected and forms a part of the duties
00:24:28 of priesthood it it offering him
00:24:31 sacrifice began with the priesthood and
00:24:33 will be continued until after the coming
00:24:35 of christ from generation to generation
00:24:38 we frequently have mentioned made of the
00:24:40 offering of sacrifice by the servants of
00:24:43 the most high in ancient days prior to
00:24:45 the law of moses
00:24:46 which ordinances will be continued when
00:24:49 the priesthood is restored with all its
00:24:51 authority um
00:24:53 so real quick this is kind of a key one
00:24:55 prior to the law of moses
00:24:57 joseph smith is distinguishing the law
00:25:00 from the law of moses right there
00:25:02 yep yep yep i yeah i can see that that’s
00:25:05 pretty clear actually yeah these
00:25:07 ordinances will be continued when the
00:25:09 priesthood is restored with all its
00:25:11 authority joseph smith did not restore
00:25:12 everything but but they’ve
00:25:15 got it started
00:25:16 i got a post on that that’s linking to
00:25:18 but anyways
00:25:20 power and blessings these sacrifices as
00:25:23 well as every ordinance belonging to the
00:25:24 priesthood will
00:25:26 ran the temple of the lord shall be
00:25:28 built
00:25:30 and the sons of levi be purified be
00:25:32 fully restored and attended to in all
00:25:34 their powers
00:25:36 blessing this ever did and ever will
00:25:37 exist when the powers of the melchizedek
00:25:39 priesthood are sufficiently manifest
00:25:42 else how can the restitution of all
00:25:44 things spoken of by the holy prophets be
00:25:46 brought to pass
00:25:47 it is not to be understood
00:25:50 that the law of moses
00:25:52 will be established the daily
00:25:54 performances and ordinances will be
00:25:56 established again with all its rights
00:25:58 and variety of ceremonies
00:26:00 this has never been spoken of by the
00:26:02 prophets but these those things which
00:26:05 existed prior to moses day
00:26:08 namely sacrificed will be continued see
00:26:11 there’s another perfect one uh
00:26:14 distinguishing law
00:26:16 torah from law of moses
00:26:20 they’re different
00:26:21 yeah
00:26:23 and it’s in the new testament too it’s
00:26:25 not as clear
00:26:27 probably because paul’s hard to
00:26:28 understand
00:26:30 and paul gets twisted
00:26:33 um anyway but
00:26:35 but i’m finding that but i’m finding
00:26:36 that i actually i’m finding these days
00:26:38 that i actually like paul a lot because
00:26:40 there’s
00:26:42 so much
00:26:43 um
00:26:45 both milk and meat in his yeah uh i like
00:26:48 paul
00:26:49 uh there’s things that i still don’t
00:26:51 understand there um
00:26:53 but
00:26:54 uh this is my favorite series on him if
00:26:57 you want
00:26:58 um
00:27:00 i don’t have it all memorized like i
00:27:01 wish i did but um i i do like paul
00:27:05 the thing i like about paul is that he’s
00:27:07 a
00:27:08 very deep theologian trying to figure
00:27:10 out how all the puzzle pieces fit
00:27:13 together
00:27:15 and if you don’t know what the puzzle
00:27:16 piece is that he’s trying to get to work
00:27:20 you won’t know what in the hell he’s
00:27:21 talking about
00:27:25 well
00:27:25 yeah
00:27:26 i mean there’s some places where
00:27:29 there’s some places where it’s pretty
00:27:31 clear
00:27:32 but
00:27:33 where it’s pretty clear like when he
00:27:34 talks about the
00:27:36 the shabbat remains
00:27:38 um
00:27:41 as in the re it’s translated in king
00:27:43 james the rest remains hebrews chapter
00:27:46 four um
00:27:49 talking about the sabbath
00:27:51 sure yeah um
00:27:54 i mean that’s really nice
00:27:57 uh twist to mean the sabbath changes the
00:28:00 first day i think it’s like acts
00:28:02 20 or something like that
00:28:04 but that’s because of a bad translation
00:28:06 he says the sabbath of the
00:28:08 first
00:28:10 count of sabbas he’s talking about the
00:28:13 countdown of the feast of weeks the high
00:28:15 holidays which if you don’t believe are
00:28:18 still valid you’re not going to get that
00:28:20 but they are and they’re in the new
00:28:22 testament
00:28:23 after the resurrection
00:28:25 right still valid and that’s one that
00:28:27 gets twisted to try to because it says
00:28:29 the first sabbath but they they
00:28:32 translate the first day of the week but
00:28:34 that’s not what it is it’s the first
00:28:35 sabbath of the count of weeks
00:28:38 yeah
00:28:40 yeah so yeah
00:28:42 there’s there’s been a lot of
00:28:43 translations that were put together to
00:28:46 justify
00:28:47 a certain
00:28:49 um
00:28:51 a certain theology
00:28:53 so here’s another one for you ben i’m
00:28:55 sure gary and joe probably already know
00:28:57 but i believe it’s acts 20 where paul
00:29:00 travels at the end of it right after i
00:29:02 think or is it 21 where someone you know
00:29:05 falls down and dies but then he
00:29:06 resurrects and then he has to go on a
00:29:08 travel
00:29:10 uh if you look at the timings of those
00:29:13 travels that he does the only thing that
00:29:14 makes it work is the lunar sabbath
00:29:17 that’s interesting
00:29:19 i can give you a link to it if you want
00:29:20 it later um yeah
00:29:22 yeah so yeah shoot me you should be
00:29:24 there there there’s there’s a couple
00:29:25 things on that all i’ll find again for
00:29:28 you but acts i think that’s acts 20 or
00:29:30 acts 21
00:29:31 um my memory is a little vague on that
00:29:33 one but it’s in that area
00:29:35 without the lunar sabbath the timing on
00:29:37 that does not work
00:29:41 that’s that’s really well that’s really
00:29:43 interesting yeah that’s why i’m meeting
00:29:45 today anyways um
00:29:48 because i’m meeting tomorrow too
00:29:52 and then saturday after that because
00:29:54 it’s uh the lunar sound anyway the lunar
00:29:57 the lunar the lunar sabbath shifts to
00:29:59 saturday next month
00:30:00 i
00:30:01 okay so
00:30:03 i would say different
00:30:04 it’s the gregorian calendar to the
00:30:06 shifts okay
00:30:09 but
00:30:09 in general speak with most people yeah
00:30:11 it shifts
00:30:13 but in reality
00:30:15 it’s the gregorian that’s shifting
00:30:17 because the gregorian doesn’t have three
00:30:19 types of data like there is in the
00:30:21 scriptures that’s true because in the
00:30:23 scriptures there’s
00:30:25 weekdays which everybody knows about
00:30:27 there’s weekly sabbath which everybody
00:30:28 knows about and very few pay attention
00:30:32 to
00:30:33 uh new moon days and really the only
00:30:35 ones that really do new moon days are
00:30:37 lunar sabotarians
00:30:40 okay in my experience because
00:30:43 new moon days are a worship day
00:30:46 but those are friends
00:30:48 as our strong
00:30:50 and i can give you scriptures for both
00:30:51 of that but
00:30:53 oh sidetrack is more on that fight too
00:30:55 but they’re there
00:30:57 um
00:30:58 i’m sure gary could testify to that if
00:31:00 you wanted to
00:31:04 uh the way i met gary is that my lunar
00:31:06 sabbath uh group
00:31:08 um
00:31:09 so we’ve chatted a few times but anyways
00:31:13 um
00:31:14 so that last part we just read
00:31:17 that’s a big
00:31:18 point on how um
00:31:21 torah and law and moses is different
00:31:23 right
00:31:24 right
00:31:26 so
00:31:27 uh and then we go here
00:31:29 i think that’s where we’re at
00:31:30 it may be asked by some what and what
00:31:33 necessity for sacrifice since the great
00:31:35 sacrifice was offered
00:31:37 in answer to which if repentance baptism
00:31:40 and faith existed prior to the days of
00:31:42 christ
00:31:44 but necessity for them since that time
00:31:47 that actually
00:31:48 that actually makes a lot of sense well
00:31:51 yeah uh some of that’s coming from 1385
00:31:55 i mean second need 532 but
00:31:57 um
00:31:58 yeah in fact
00:32:01 if you don’t believe in the book of
00:32:02 mormon because not everybody comes on
00:32:03 this call does
00:32:05 um the dead sea scrolls shows that
00:32:08 baptism was around before and
00:32:11 i know where baptism is in torah well i
00:32:14 don’t come out and say it it’s symbolic
00:32:18 well i also know i also
00:32:21 have uh
00:32:25 a lot of the uh a lot of the uh
00:32:28 practices surrounding the day of
00:32:30 atonement there’s a lot of um
00:32:34 there’s a lot of
00:32:36 there’s a lot of immersion of one’s self
00:32:37 in water and um
00:32:39 [Music]
00:32:40 at the labor um yeah and yes i i do
00:32:44 believe that is symbolic of baptism and
00:32:46 re-baptism
00:32:48 um
00:32:50 as far as i’m concerned read baptism is
00:32:52 a thing i’ve seen it throughout the
00:32:53 scriptures
00:32:56 and if you want
00:32:58 it’s in
00:33:00 the bible and book of mormon and here’s
00:33:03 a whole bunch i have and then it’s also
00:33:05 in uh church history
00:33:07 i have a whole bunch of stuff right
00:33:08 there um it’s throughout the scriptures
00:33:11 and re-baptism of members in good
00:33:13 standing
00:33:15 not just that you got x and now you’re
00:33:16 coming back it’s
00:33:18 members in good standing
00:33:20 recommitting
00:33:21 yeah it’s very committing very good in
00:33:24 fact
00:33:25 um
00:33:26 it’s popular to do that uh just before
00:33:31 tabernacles
00:33:34 in
00:33:35 jewish
00:33:36 history um because tabernacles
00:33:39 represents what do you know
00:33:41 [Music]
00:33:42 uh when they when the people of israel
00:33:45 were led out of egypt and they traveled
00:33:46 around the wilderness and tabernacles
00:33:49 yeah okay uh that’s true i was more
00:33:52 trying to refer to something else it’s
00:33:53 the millennium when the king reigns
00:33:56 and to get into the kingdom what do you
00:33:58 have to do
00:34:00 be baptized that’s true that’s true
00:34:04 um oh yeah yeah these
00:34:08 the you’re talking about the prophetic
00:34:10 the significance of the feast of
00:34:11 tabernacles yeah yeah
00:34:14 in fact here’s another interesting part
00:34:16 for you on these last three holidays
00:34:19 uh trumpets warning you need to repent
00:34:21 atonement repent
00:34:23 then you baptize and then you go into
00:34:26 the kingdom
00:34:27 oh that sounds like the gospel
00:34:29 oh what what
00:34:35 those crazy
00:34:37 beasts we don’t need those
00:34:39 oh no you do oh my gosh you mean the
00:34:41 jews understood the gospel oh yeah uh
00:34:44 before they uh uh perverted themselves
00:34:47 yeah before they apostatize yeah um
00:34:50 yeah in fact uh the tanakh and zechariah
00:34:53 if i remember correctly i can look it up
00:34:56 states in the millennium if you don’t
00:34:57 keep tabernacles you won’t get rain
00:35:00 for your props
00:35:02 yep so it it it wasn’t done away with
00:35:07 if you
00:35:08 think god gave us something then took it
00:35:10 away and is gonna give it back
00:35:13 you have a crazy
00:35:14 god you have a god that can’t make up
00:35:17 his mind that’s always turning left to
00:35:18 the right but my god as testified in the
00:35:21 scripture says he does not turn to the
00:35:23 left or the right
00:35:24 right he’s the same yesterday
00:35:27 unchanged
00:35:32 i miss what you said ben
00:35:34 is unchanging yeah unchanging yes yeah
00:35:37 um
00:35:38 yes and that’s why it’s a restoration to
00:35:41 things that were already there not
00:35:43 something new
00:35:45 even the word restoration means wrist or
00:35:48 restoring to something that was there
00:35:50 before well that and that brings us back
00:35:53 right back around
00:35:54 brings us right back around full circle
00:35:56 to some of these verses that are lower
00:35:58 on down in here where you’re talking
00:36:00 about malachi the great dreadful day the
00:36:02 restoration
00:36:06 where elijah comes to turn the hearts of
00:36:07 the children to the promises made to the
00:36:10 fathers which is something that’s made
00:36:11 clear to us um
00:36:13 throughout the covenants and so
00:36:16 good
00:36:18 it’s the promises made to the fathers
00:36:20 it’s not uh
00:36:22 hey everybody let’s go to the temple and
00:36:25 get wet for dead people
00:36:29 yeah
00:36:30 in fact the book of mormon speaks is
00:36:31 against that in so many ways um so
00:36:35 well this is something that i mean
00:36:38 you know it’s really amazing because
00:36:40 i’ve been getting a lot of this stuff
00:36:41 just from my own study of the scriptures
00:36:43 and through the spirit
00:36:45 is that the
00:36:47 when it says those who die without law
00:36:50 are covered by grace and
00:36:53 mormon chapter eight those who die
00:36:55 without law
00:36:57 that’s literally it they they’re those
00:36:59 who died without torah they had no
00:37:01 knowledge of torah yeah that’s only
00:37:02 children though just fyi because moroni
00:37:05 seven says all men meaning adults
00:37:08 are in the light of christ which is just
00:37:10 another word for law
00:37:12 yeah
00:37:14 um
00:37:15 so
00:37:16 in fact the light that we’re supposed to
00:37:18 be guided by is torah and uh as psalms
00:37:21 teaches us in proverbs which i can give
00:37:24 verses for if you want but um on one
00:37:27 thing
00:37:29 although that one i just put in there is
00:37:31 primarily um
00:37:33 docking uh
00:37:35 tnc 132 right that’s it’s a fraud
00:37:39 um
00:37:40 but uh
00:37:42 the
00:37:43 focus on doing that is how the book of
00:37:45 mormon states that the restoration
00:37:48 is
00:37:49 it got started it never got finished
00:37:51 where dnc 132 states it got
00:37:54 finished
00:37:57 hence the difference between that the
00:37:59 title much versus all
00:38:01 much yeah
00:38:02 yeah that’s that’s one of the things
00:38:04 that’s one of the things that
00:38:06 really stands out to me and i read that
00:38:09 in um
00:38:10 i think first nephi chapter
00:38:13 13.
00:38:14 yep yeah i think that’s where it is that
00:38:17 money no restoration
00:38:19 you know much of the gospel is right
00:38:23 and then
00:38:23 i contrast that to the fake 132
00:38:27 40
00:38:28 it says all
00:38:30 right anyways that whole section
00:38:34 i i need to spend time ripping every
00:38:36 single verse apart
00:38:38 just about every single verse
00:38:39 contradicts the scriptures
00:38:41 it’s probable
00:38:42 there’s something problematic just about
00:38:45 everywhere in there yeah well it’s
00:38:47 because it’s brigham young they did it
00:38:52 he thought he was a smart guy
00:38:54 what can you say uh keyword thought
00:38:58 well there are several of the other
00:38:59 sections that smack of uh let’s smack of
00:39:02 him too so um he met with jesuits on the
00:39:05 way to the west
00:39:07 uh that doesn’t surprise me at all yeah
00:39:09 i have quotes i i expect i think i i
00:39:12 expect he was a
00:39:14 jesuit uh
00:39:16 infiltrator
00:39:18 well i i think he was a jesuit pawn not
00:39:20 an infiltrator
00:39:22 yeah jesuits were using him
00:39:25 yeah
00:39:30 a lot of his practices within the church
00:39:32 smack of jesus
00:39:35 because he listened to the jesuits
00:39:37 that’s why
00:39:40 but did he didn’t infiltrate he was a
00:39:42 pawn
00:39:44 yeah they used him
00:39:47 the jesuits had too much power for him
00:39:49 to infiltrate
00:39:50 you can’t do that anyways that’s a whole
00:39:52 nother subject well i’m not talking
00:39:54 about he was
00:39:56 i’m talking about he
00:39:58 i’ve been talking about the possibility
00:40:00 that he himself was jesuit before he
00:40:03 quote-unquote oh
00:40:05 no okay i wouldn’t use infiltrate on
00:40:07 that it’s just to remember because
00:40:09 anyways i i am not aware of that but i
00:40:12 would not be surprised i do know he was
00:40:14 a mason which is controlled by the
00:40:16 jesuits so
00:40:17 it definitely could be the case but i
00:40:19 hadn’t thought about that
00:40:21 so and uh hebrews kimball as well
00:40:24 uh yeah
00:40:25 a lot of the brigamites you know the
00:40:27 ones that went west a lot of those uh
00:40:29 top leaders were um
00:40:32 masons
00:40:34 which sadly i was one once but then i
00:40:37 woke up to that problem um anyways
00:40:41 i think i’ve got good friends and i’ve
00:40:43 got my brother’s amazing so you know
00:40:45 what what can you do
00:40:49 try to help them um so i if you want i
00:40:52 have a resource page that shows how some
00:40:54 of their things are actually doing what
00:40:56 uh contrary to
00:40:58 the law and things that uh bill and his
00:41:00 worshipers did and that’s partly what
00:41:03 helped me
00:41:04 get away from it um but i i joined to
00:41:07 try to understand the scriptures better
00:41:09 which ironically was understanding the
00:41:10 scriptures more is what took me out of
00:41:12 it
00:41:13 yeah that’s interesting
00:41:15 um
00:41:16 so i’ll if you want you could maybe give
00:41:19 some
00:41:20 i need to do more on this but um i need
00:41:23 to do more on a lot of things
00:41:25 but it’s a good start
00:41:27 you can give this to them or at least
00:41:29 look at it yourself and then see what
00:41:30 you think might help them
00:41:32 um
00:41:33 but anyways
00:41:35 i have some things there and i’m always
00:41:36 happy to talk about more
00:41:38 cool um
00:41:41 yeah so um
00:41:43 that’s like
00:41:45 a very important quote from joseph smith
00:41:48 showing the difference between torah
00:41:50 and law of moses
00:41:52 and showing that he is fully
00:41:54 understanding that torah must be
00:41:57 practiced
00:41:58 right and i think he also knew
00:42:00 he wasn’t going to restore at all
00:42:02 so
00:42:03 so my question is
00:42:06 why do we have no public record
00:42:10 of him
00:42:11 honoring torah and sabbaths
00:42:14 um not everything was restored yet
00:42:17 in fact when he prayed about the sabbath
00:42:19 uh god basically told him
00:42:21 not yet
00:42:22 timing’s not right
00:42:23 yeah well i mean 59 is
00:42:26 section 59 is definitely a
00:42:30 it definitely gives real guidelines as
00:42:33 to what you’re supposed to do on this is
00:42:35 what what you how you’re supposed to
00:42:37 honor the sabbath
00:42:38 and
00:42:39 from what i’ve been able to see it’s
00:42:41 actually
00:42:42 there’s no actual reference in 59 to
00:42:44 account to the calendar day on which it
00:42:46 was received correct uh there here i’ll
00:42:49 show you a little something that i have
00:42:51 um it was received on a lunar sabbath
00:42:54 but it doesn’t actually it doesn’t teach
00:42:56 it um
00:42:59 oh so that was the day of the lunar
00:43:02 sabbath when it was yeah it’s the lunar
00:43:04 7 let me um get it up and i’ll share so
00:43:06 that so in that particular phase it
00:43:09 happened to be on a sunday interesting
00:43:12 yeah um so here’s a picture from a
00:43:15 different app that i used to use
00:43:17 but
00:43:18 um
00:43:20 it was the last sabbath
00:43:22 of that cycle
00:43:24 of the moon and then the day after that
00:43:26 was new moon so this app i used to go by
00:43:29 the world’s last chance app and this is
00:43:31 from there
00:43:32 um
00:43:33 anyways
00:43:35 um
00:43:36 the blue
00:43:38 is really a lunar 7
00:43:41 that’s really cool
00:43:45 wow yeah um
00:43:46 so when they organize the church goes
00:43:48 off lunar sabbath also
00:43:51 um
00:43:53 anyways
00:43:54 when you actually start looking at dates
00:43:56 which i have because i i know the math
00:43:58 and i have my programs and i use that i
00:44:00 go look this stuff up it also shows if
00:44:03 you go into the depth of it it shows the
00:44:05 day starts in the morning and not the
00:44:07 evening even on the restoration dates
00:44:11 which is funny because most the
00:44:12 restorationists
00:44:13 keep saturday and they go by evening
00:44:18 no i’m serious even when i shared that
00:44:20 one from the book of mormon i don’t know
00:44:21 if you’ve looked at that one yet it
00:44:22 shows the day starts in the morning
00:44:24 they hated it they all argued with me
00:44:27 even though the bible teaches it and the
00:44:28 book of mormon
00:44:30 right
00:44:31 i
00:44:32 to me it drives me all i can figure is
00:44:35 people love their false traditions that
00:44:36 they get from the sadducees and the
00:44:38 pharisees aka orthodox more than they do
00:44:41 the truth
00:44:42 yeah
00:44:43 they
00:44:44 orthodox there’s a certain amount of
00:44:46 comfort in orthodoxy
00:44:48 oh sure saturday it’s a lot easier
00:44:51 lunar
00:44:54 lunar requires you to do lunar requires
00:44:56 you to do some math or at the very least
00:44:58 download an app that’s reliable
00:45:01 yeah sure mine’s almost published
00:45:04 mine’s done now i’m just on the stage of
00:45:07 figuring out how to publish it um i used
00:45:09 to use world’s last chance but i
00:45:11 disagree with them on a couple points so
00:45:13 i started working on my own
00:45:17 so anyways
00:45:19 i put my money where my mouth is so to
00:45:21 speak i i went and i did the research
00:45:23 and i
00:45:24 and i put the rubber to the road well
00:45:26 really close the last part is publishing
00:45:28 it to the android store and i’ve been
00:45:30 doing research on that and it’s not easy
00:45:33 which is you think they’d want to make
00:45:34 it easy but anyways so i’m a software
00:45:37 engineer by trade
00:45:39 okay
00:45:40 okay
00:45:42 i i there’s a program called visual
00:45:45 studio i i like i live in
00:45:48 it’s a program to write programs um
00:45:51 anyways
00:45:52 um yeah so
00:45:55 uh okay so we can go look at some book
00:45:57 of mormon quotes to basically just teach
00:45:59 that same thing
00:46:01 but it’s all over it
00:46:03 once you
00:46:04 understand it
00:46:07 and
00:46:09 you’re not proof texting
00:46:13 um
00:46:14 so this right here is kind of a little
00:46:15 summary of my law of moses i may update
00:46:18 it a little bit the law of moses is the
00:46:19 daily performances and ordinances were
00:46:21 given
00:46:22 because of the hard hardness of the
00:46:24 israelites and the mixed multitude at
00:46:26 sinai that typifies of christ’s
00:46:28 atonement which was to come
00:46:33 uh and
00:46:35 i don’t know if i’ll put it in that i
00:46:36 may try to work it in it’s kind of a
00:46:38 punishment more than a law
00:46:40 because laws don’t go away and this did
00:46:44 yeah it’s a punishment which goes along
00:46:46 they got it because of their hard hearts
00:46:49 well that would that would go along with
00:46:51 the fact that the levitical priesthood
00:46:54 has only the power to find heavy burdens
00:46:57 yeah
00:46:58 so
00:47:00 so here’s a couple
00:47:01 highlights from the joe smith quote we
00:47:04 just went over right
00:47:07 and then here here
00:47:09 i don’t have all the i’ve been working
00:47:10 on the i’m putting these into chiasms
00:47:12 and making it real obvious
00:47:14 the last little while for that post that
00:47:16 you just saw a portion of
00:47:18 um
00:47:19 but uh first occurrence second nephi 11.
00:47:23 uh i’ll let you read so i’m not always
00:47:25 talking that’s okay
00:47:27 behold my soul delighteth and proving on
00:47:29 to my people the truth of the coming of
00:47:31 christ the messiah
00:47:33 for this purpose for this end or purpose
00:47:36 uh proving the coming of the messiah as
00:47:39 the law of moses daily performances and
00:47:41 ordinances has been given and all things
00:47:44 which have been given of god elohim
00:47:47 including the law of moses from the
00:47:49 beginning of the world onto man are the
00:47:51 are the typifying of him
00:47:54 so
00:47:56 look how this is saying
00:47:59 the law of moses
00:48:01 is
00:48:02 prophesying
00:48:04 of christ’s atonement
00:48:07 once you get the principle
00:48:10 it’s right there in your face
00:48:15 and so once the
00:48:17 once the once the marker has happened
00:48:22 that which
00:48:25 it
00:48:26 the the law i guess become the law of
00:48:29 moses
00:48:31 yeah the daily prayers ordinances which
00:48:33 given because the hard hearts is more as
00:48:35 accomplishment right
00:48:37 yep
00:48:38 it becomes what uh becomes um
00:48:42 less than effectual
00:48:44 yeah uh it’s getting away with
00:48:47 yeah it’s gone it’s nailed to the cross
00:48:49 in paul’s terms which is when it stopped
00:48:52 in fact you’ll see
00:48:54 if we keep doing how long we’re going to
00:48:55 be here we go down we see in 1351 where
00:48:59 someone is trying to stop it too early
00:49:01 after the birth
00:49:03 because he came right so they got a
00:49:04 little that one guy got a little
00:49:06 confused about what part of the coming
00:49:09 it was
00:49:10 the death and probably because he didn’t
00:49:12 understand the daily performance and
00:49:14 ordinances typified if his atonement the
00:49:17 great sacrifice as talked about in alma
00:49:20 34 and they were able to
00:49:22 turn him back
00:49:24 get by because
00:49:26 expounding the scriptures
00:49:28 yep
00:49:29 yeah okay so
00:49:32 this one’s a little longer
00:49:34 but i did it to show the full context so
00:49:36 i’m gonna let you re read it
00:49:39 it’s a chiasm and when you look at the
00:49:42 points of the chiasms
00:49:44 they go together and support each other
00:49:46 on those concepts and that’s partly why
00:49:48 i like
00:49:49 important things i
00:49:51 spend time
00:49:53 reading these verses over and over
00:49:55 looking for this stuff
00:49:57 because it makes it more clear
00:50:03 where we labor diligently to write
00:50:07 to persuade our children and also our
00:50:09 brethren that’s the next section
00:50:13 to believe in christ
00:50:15 messiah
00:50:16 and be reconciled to god
00:50:20 for we know that it is by grace we are
00:50:23 saved
00:50:26 after
00:50:28 despite better set despite and i have
00:50:30 arrested for that i’m not making it up
00:50:32 yeah and that’s yeah and this is related
00:50:35 to the previous bb
00:50:39 uh yeah reconcile the god reconciled to
00:50:42 god after all we after despite all we
00:50:44 can do
00:50:45 yeah it’s probably better translated
00:50:47 despite in today’s language but in
00:50:49 joseph smith’s time which is what this
00:50:51 article shows
00:50:52 people then knew what that meant they
00:50:54 knew it meant despite because it’s a
00:50:56 it’s a idiom
00:50:58 but anyways yep
00:50:59 yeah
00:51:01 and notwithstanding we believe in christ
00:51:04 clear clear and clear connection there
00:51:07 yeah we keep the law of moses daily
00:51:10 performances and ordinances
00:51:12 and look forward with steadfastness unto
00:51:15 christ
00:51:16 look
00:51:17 isn’t that interesting they put that
00:51:19 right after talking about the law of
00:51:20 moses
00:51:22 uh-huh
00:51:23 yeah
00:51:25 look forward with stephen smith which is
00:51:27 what the law of moses is
00:51:30 yeah
00:51:32 and that’s why they were required to
00:51:34 keep the law of moses
00:51:36 yeah so that way
00:51:38 until the time of the coming of christ
00:51:40 right so they to help them because of
00:51:43 their heart hearts recognize it when he
00:51:45 came and most of them still did not and
00:51:47 that’s why christ sorrowed on the mount
00:51:50 because they would not recognize it
00:51:53 until the law of moses types of things
00:51:55 to come shall be fulfilled
00:51:58 for for this end
00:52:00 purpose
00:52:02 uh to look forward under the messiah was
00:52:04 the law of moses daily performances and
00:52:07 ordinances given
00:52:08 wherefore
00:52:10 this 25 for this purpose
00:52:13 which if you go look up they were
00:52:15 talking the purpose is the look forward
00:52:17 onto the messiah
00:52:19 was the law of moses given
00:52:22 so i’m not making it up it says it i’m
00:52:24 just trying to put things in to make it
00:52:26 a little more obvious of what is
00:52:27 actually stating
00:52:29 right
00:52:30 now
00:52:31 makes that makes sense so i i
00:52:34 i put effort into this to try to make it
00:52:36 more obvious to people because that’s
00:52:38 like this that’s like the central point
00:52:41 uh yes f that is the central very good
00:52:44 point
00:52:45 [Music]
00:52:49 wherefore the law of moses
00:52:52 the law of moses types of things to come
00:52:54 hath become dead unto us
00:52:55 and we are made alive in christ the
00:52:58 messiah because of our faith yet we keep
00:53:00 the law of moses daily performances
00:53:02 ordinances because of the commandments i
00:53:05 mean they were told to do it right
00:53:08 up until christ comes
00:53:11 to them
00:53:12 so that’s where they got a little
00:53:13 confused at least one guy right because
00:53:16 he didn’t come to them
00:53:18 until after his death and resurrection
00:53:22 yeah back he came third meet by 11 is
00:53:24 pentecost
00:53:27 true
00:53:28 that’s the same day
00:53:30 yeah it’s pentecost which is when the
00:53:31 logic was given
00:53:34 and who’s the law
00:53:35 or who
00:53:36 is the perfectification of the law
00:53:39 is yeshua
00:53:41 yeah the law giver
00:53:43 yeah
00:53:44 exactly
00:53:45 and we talk
00:53:47 and we talk of christ the messiah
00:53:50 we rejoice in christ the messiah we
00:53:52 preach of christ the messiah we prophesy
00:53:54 christ the messiah we write according to
00:53:56 our prophecies god’s skin hiding back
00:54:00 sure that one goes up to this a and
00:54:02 these bees go up to these bees
00:54:04 yeah
00:54:06 being reconciled to god rejoicing
00:54:08 prophesying yeah and so this is if you
00:54:11 notice this is an a b a b
00:54:13 we talk preach rejoice prophesied
00:54:17 and it’s rejoicing because at that time
00:54:19 it definitely was prophecy because that
00:54:21 was in the future
00:54:23 yes
00:54:25 and we write according to our prophecies
00:54:27 that our children may know to what
00:54:30 source they may look for remission of
00:54:32 their sins again
00:54:33 persuading our children
00:54:36 therefore according concerning the law
00:54:39 of moses look forward to messiah that
00:54:41 our children may know the deadness of
00:54:43 the law of moses daily performances and
00:54:45 ordinances
00:54:47 and they by knowing the deadness of the
00:54:49 law of moses daily performances and
00:54:51 ordinances may look forward onto that
00:54:53 life which is in christ which is the
00:54:55 point of the law of moses
00:55:01 yeah and over what end purpose
00:55:04 the law of moses type of things to come
00:55:06 was given and after the law of moses
00:55:08 look forward unto the messiah is
00:55:09 fulfilled in christ the messiah
00:55:11 that they need not harden their hearts
00:55:13 against him when the law of moses look
00:55:16 forward unto the messiah ought to be
00:55:17 done away
00:55:19 and now we hold my people you’re asking
00:55:21 people
00:55:22 the reason they got it
00:55:24 yep that’s right
00:55:26 and therefore i’ve spoken plainly onto
00:55:28 you
00:55:29 that you cannot misunderstand
00:55:31 now the words which i have spoken shall
00:55:33 stand as a testimony against you and
00:55:35 they are sufficient to teach any man the
00:55:37 right way
00:55:38 for the right way is to believe in
00:55:40 christ the messiah and and i am not
00:55:43 for by denying him ye also deny the
00:55:46 prophets and the law
00:55:48 so i find another oh here’s that
00:55:51 there’s that
00:55:52 differentiation right there between the
00:55:55 law of moses
00:55:56 and the law of god the torah law
00:55:59 it says for by denying christ you deny
00:56:02 the prophets and the law
00:56:04 yeah
00:56:06 so whereas all of this up here is
00:56:08 talking about
00:56:10 love moses being dead
00:56:14 it was a dead work it’s always been a
00:56:16 dead work
00:56:18 yeah but it was a dead work to point us
00:56:19 to christ
00:56:20 i mean well not us because we were born
00:56:23 after but you get the point but the
00:56:24 point to fight
00:56:26 those christians
00:56:30 um so i i just wanna you know one of the
00:56:33 the points uh highlights are you know
00:56:35 central points in a one of these chiasms
00:56:37 here that you cannot misunderstand
00:56:41 now if you just casually read this
00:56:44 you’ll misunderstand but if you
00:56:46 think deep and and
00:56:48 you know try to do what i just did right
00:56:51 yeah
00:56:52 i i don’t know how you can misunderstand
00:56:55 right
00:56:57 so i’m trying to give people what i’ve
00:56:59 done for myself to others to
00:57:02 get them on the path faster sooner
00:57:05 yeah
00:57:06 that’s uh
00:57:08 that
00:57:09 well that’s
00:57:10 as as this stuff gets as this stuff gets
00:57:12 revealed to me
00:57:14 through the course of my studies i try
00:57:16 to reveal it to other people and i find
00:57:18 that generally speaking
00:57:21 people want to move on to the mysteries
00:57:23 of the spirit before they uh sure yeah i
00:57:27 i hear the same thing i’ve experienced
00:57:29 the same thing but they won’t get true
00:57:30 mysteries
00:57:32 until they really understand the milk
00:57:35 until they understand the milk
00:57:37 they can’t understand the mysteries and
00:57:39 it’s garbage that they’re being fed to
00:57:41 mislead them
00:57:43 well what i tell what i tell people a
00:57:45 lot is this
00:57:48 if you are not obeying the light you
00:57:51 have
00:57:53 what makes you think
00:57:55 you have the right
00:57:57 to demand additional light
00:57:59 sure yeah
00:58:01 uh
00:58:02 alma
00:58:03 12 9-11 it talks about if you don’t keep
00:58:06 what you have you’ll lose what you
00:58:09 if you’re not true to what you have now
00:58:10 you’ll lose what you have to the point
00:58:12 you have nothing and you’re a servant of
00:58:14 satan
00:58:16 and you’re damned well technically
00:58:18 according to the words of king benjamin
00:58:20 were all property of satan until we are
00:58:22 saved yeah until we’re born again yeah
00:58:24 yeah we’re
00:58:26 of the dust and what is satan need of
00:58:29 say he needs of the dust and if we’re of
00:58:31 the dust he’s eating us and
00:58:33 i’ll tell you look out in the world
00:58:35 he’s consuming the whole world well
00:58:38 except for a few right
00:58:40 yeah
00:58:42 um yeah it’s very easy the garden of
00:58:44 eden is
00:58:46 very deep when
00:58:48 you look at what it’s teaching behind
00:58:50 the story and the word
00:58:53 i think that the story is primarily
00:58:54 allegorical
00:58:56 oh yeah yeah i i do believe it’s i do
00:58:59 believe in adam and eve
00:59:01 right
00:59:02 but the way it’s being
00:59:04 that part of history is being presented
00:59:07 is very allegorical like you said to
00:59:09 teach us things
00:59:10 and the way that they it’s brought out
00:59:12 on a lot of points i if you miss that
00:59:17 i don’t know what to tell you
00:59:18 [Laughter]
00:59:21 just like i gave a little bit about the
00:59:22 dust right right exactly satan consumes
00:59:26 the dust in fact um
00:59:28 here’s another pulse i need to finish
00:59:32 the woman caught in adultery
00:59:34 when christ was writing
00:59:36 something in the dust with his finger
00:59:39 he was writing
00:59:42 the followers satan’s names that were
00:59:44 breaking torah and trying to tempt
00:59:47 yeshua to break it
00:59:51 wow writing their names
00:59:54 because they belong to the dust
00:59:59 and that’s why they were convicted in
01:00:01 their hearts yeah because they knew what
01:00:03 he was doing where
01:00:05 most people today who don’t study and
01:00:07 think about things they don’t know what
01:00:09 that means because everybody
01:00:11 everywhere has their idea what what was
01:00:14 going on there right
01:00:16 but when you know
01:00:17 the imagery of the scriptures
01:00:20 in the background especially jeremiah
01:00:21 because jeremiah kind of makes that
01:00:23 really plain and clear
01:00:24 oh yeah
01:00:26 he was writing their names in the dust
01:00:28 because that’s where they
01:00:30 are is that similar is that similar to
01:00:34 um
01:00:35 the dusting of the feet
01:00:38 um i hadn’t thought about that but that
01:00:40 that makes some sense off of a quick
01:00:41 connection um because they’re they’re
01:00:44 following the dust and so here’s your
01:00:46 dust
01:00:47 so i could see that i hadn’t thought
01:00:49 about the dusting of the feet though you
01:00:51 know lds missionaries they always uh
01:00:53 like talking about that one right yeah
01:00:56 well they always like talking about that
01:00:58 one and they
01:00:59 have no authority to do it uh correct
01:01:02 because they don’t even
01:01:04 know the gospel to dust
01:01:07 people from uh denying it um but
01:01:10 anyways that’s an interesting connection
01:01:12 i hadn’t thought about that one um i
01:01:14 just you know although as a missionary
01:01:16 we brought it up i don’t really worry
01:01:18 about that one but that that’s a good
01:01:19 connection
01:01:21 yeah my brother actually my brother matt
01:01:23 is actually
01:01:24 was actually obsessed with the ordinance
01:01:26 for a while learned a lot about it oh
01:01:28 did did you watch that um oh no
01:01:32 the one about the two polygamous
01:01:34 brothers from what was it early 80s that
01:01:36 came out recently um
01:01:39 oh
01:01:40 i’m forgetting the name now
01:01:42 oh dang it
01:01:45 but one in one of the episodes one of
01:01:47 the stake presidents won the you know
01:01:50 the
01:01:51 the cop what or no the detective was an
01:01:53 actual made-up character but they did it
01:01:55 to you know
01:01:56 writer’s license right i think they did
01:01:59 a great problem with it
01:02:00 but the stake president dust his feet
01:02:03 against him when he wouldn’t do what he
01:02:05 he wanted him to do
01:02:07 yeah which is basically hide the truth
01:02:10 which is not the point of
01:02:12 that ordinance but it’s been twisted so
01:02:15 much in the bringing my church but
01:02:17 anyways well you know
01:02:21 it falls
01:02:24 it falls in line that some of the people
01:02:26 who would practice and
01:02:28 the people the people who would uh
01:02:30 practice blood atonement
01:02:32 uh yeah which
01:02:35 alma 34 uh
01:02:37 kind of speaks against uh and on
01:02:39 addition
01:02:40 there’s only one person
01:02:42 or one entity’s blood that can save us
01:02:45 and that is yeshua’s
01:02:47 yes our own blood can’t save us
01:02:49 um because our own blood is corrupt yeah
01:02:52 it we’ve sinned we’re not a perfect
01:02:55 sacrifice
01:02:56 the only perfect sacrifice was yeshua
01:03:00 and it’s the only one that ever will be
01:03:02 um
01:03:03 so
01:03:04 it there’s only one blood
01:03:07 life that will save us and that’s jeshua
01:03:10 and so just to me that just shows how uh
01:03:13 brigham young actually was not following
01:03:16 jesus
01:03:18 well yeah
01:03:19 but i mean there’s lots
01:03:21 there’s all kinds of things
01:03:23 there’s lots of things on that one um
01:03:25 but yeah
01:03:27 there’s all kinds of things uh
01:03:31 anyways okay
01:03:33 let’s go to the next version that’s
01:03:34 another that’s another discussion for
01:03:36 another time yeah yeah
01:03:38 [Laughter]
01:03:41 um okay all right so here’s another one
01:03:44 right
01:03:45 which is just a few verses down from
01:03:46 this one but it is a separate one
01:03:51 and in as much as it shall be expedient
01:03:54 you must keep the
01:03:55 daily performances and ordinances of god
01:03:58 elohim until the law of moses types of
01:04:00 things to come shall be fulfilled which
01:04:02 was given unto moses
01:04:05 yeah
01:04:06 okay
01:04:07 this one’s a good one
01:04:11 behold they believed in christ
01:04:14 the messiah the son and worshipped the
01:04:16 father in his name
01:04:19 and also we worship the father in his
01:04:21 name
01:04:22 so they’re saying the ancients worship
01:04:25 the father in the name of the son
01:04:27 and then the a b is and we follow them
01:04:30 basically right and we do the same thing
01:04:33 we do the same thing and for this intent
01:04:37 purpose
01:04:38 we keep the law of moses types of things
01:04:40 to come it pointing our souls to him
01:04:43 wait a minute what’s the law of moses
01:04:45 doing
01:04:46 pointing our souls to him
01:04:53 and for the and for this cause
01:04:56 reason finding our chosen messiah is
01:04:58 sanctified unto us for righteousness
01:05:01 even as it was accounted unto abraham of
01:05:03 the wilderness to be obedient under the
01:05:04 commandments of god and offering up his
01:05:06 son isaac which is a similitude of god
01:05:09 and his only begotten son i think
01:05:12 beloved is a better translation but
01:05:14 anyways
01:05:16 yeah that’s uh
01:05:17 there’s a lot of uh
01:05:21 there’s a lot of
01:05:22 confusion around the word that gets us
01:05:24 begotten
01:05:25 uh i would agree with that
01:05:28 [Laughter]
01:05:30 anyways
01:05:31 um
01:05:33 especially when we understand in the
01:05:35 scriptures
01:05:37 when you understand from the
01:05:40 the teachings of others in the book of
01:05:42 mormon that we can become begotten sons
01:05:45 of god yeah we can come beloved sons of
01:05:48 god yeah
01:05:49 beloved sons of god so
01:05:51 god loves us when we keep the
01:05:52 commandments
01:05:53 i mean it’s through the tanakh psalms
01:05:57 most christians who don’t like
01:05:59 the old testament they still like the
01:06:00 psalms right in general speaking
01:06:02 yeah psalms says
01:06:05 if you’re a sinner i hate you
01:06:09 and speaking god’s voice
01:06:11 yeah
01:06:12 yeah i they like the psalms but they
01:06:14 don’t like that one right well what they
01:06:16 look what they like to do with the
01:06:18 psalms is they like to isolate
01:06:19 individual verses in the psalms and
01:06:21 forget the rest of that particular song
01:06:23 that’s what they love
01:06:25 well that’s pretty much what everybody
01:06:26 does jews and christians so
01:06:29 [Laughter]
01:06:33 so okay all right so we’re sidetracking
01:06:35 a little more sorry
01:06:38 but we’re at we’re having fun with it
01:06:39 though
01:06:42 exactly
01:06:43 oh man people could have called me a
01:06:45 heretic when this one goes up
01:06:47 and you have led away much of this
01:06:49 people that they pervert the right way
01:06:50 of god and keep not the law of moses
01:06:52 which is the right way and convert the
01:06:54 law of moses into the worship of the
01:06:55 being which he shall say come many
01:06:57 hundred years hence and now behold i
01:07:00 share and declare on you that this is
01:07:02 blasphemy for no man knoweth of such
01:07:04 things for he cannot tell of things to
01:07:06 come and after this manner did sharon
01:07:08 contend against me
01:07:10 so this one’s literally trickier so i’m
01:07:12 not going to put in the post because i’m
01:07:14 not going to put many comments there
01:07:16 because it’s a side subject of the main
01:07:18 post
01:07:19 but this is sharum the antichrist saying
01:07:22 you’ve perverted the law of moses into
01:07:25 worshipping
01:07:26 a god that’s coming
01:07:30 well
01:07:32 basically what he’s telling him is
01:07:34 that
01:07:36 he’s he needs to practice the law of
01:07:38 moses as if the law of moses will say
01:07:41 right which is the way that the jews
01:07:43 view it
01:07:45 yeah which
01:07:46 through the book of mormon it says that
01:07:48 the jews misunderstood it
01:07:50 and so is sharom and sharon’s stating
01:07:53 basically what the believers see it as
01:07:56 and telling them you’re wrong
01:07:59 it’s
01:08:00 that in itself is going to save you
01:08:03 and
01:08:04 that’s what the
01:08:06 priest of noah taught too that it would
01:08:09 just save you
01:08:10 well they also yeah like they also
01:08:13 taught the people to take multiple wives
01:08:16 yeah i mean
01:08:18 there’s that too but i mean they caused
01:08:21 the people because there’s a
01:08:23 because there’s an oft misunderstood
01:08:26 uh and uh there’s an oft misunderstood
01:08:29 section in
01:08:31 i believe it is
01:08:33 jacob too
01:08:35 what’s that yeah are you talking about
01:08:37 the jacob 2-1
01:08:39 no i’m talking about the
01:08:41 the section in deuteronomy it’s either
01:08:43 in
01:08:44 oh you know
01:08:46 where you are
01:08:47 given governing polygamy yeah they’re
01:08:50 not uh and i can give you a good video
01:08:52 on that um
01:08:54 so the ones that states that it
01:08:56 can happen
01:08:58 uh is mistranslating a hebrew idiom
01:09:01 where it’s translated correctly
01:09:03 everywhere else except for there oh i
01:09:04 wonder if someone had some motivations
01:09:06 and the ones that make it look like
01:09:07 they’re giving laws towards it
01:09:10 uh when you actually look at it or not
01:09:12 and i can give you a good video that
01:09:13 gets into all the details on that
01:09:16 oh cool yeah
01:09:18 so
01:09:19 and then here’s another one i want to do
01:09:21 a post on
01:09:22 people claim um because
01:09:25 nathaniel got his father’s wives that
01:09:28 proves it’s okay
01:09:30 but taurus speaks that you cannot marry
01:09:33 your mother and
01:09:35 he married his mother breaking tory you
01:09:37 know who did that first in the tour that
01:09:39 we have
01:09:41 tower
01:09:42 babel is where it first happened in the
01:09:44 records that we have
01:09:46 well there’s also
01:09:48 the first
01:09:49 the first case of polygamy recorded is
01:09:51 actually
01:09:53 um oh sure polygamy isn’t uh uh with one
01:09:57 of the descendants of kane
01:09:59 yes i was talking about marrying your
01:10:01 mother
01:10:02 oh mary and your mother oh that’s
01:10:04 specifically yes related to the tower of
01:10:06 babel yes definitely yeah that’s the
01:10:08 first one on record that we have of that
01:10:11 where
01:10:11 where tamus marries his own bubble
01:10:18 which is uh also where a lot of people
01:10:20 get the virgin birth from because of all
01:10:22 thought that
01:10:24 anyways i don’t believe in the virgin
01:10:26 virgin has in um never had sex i don’t
01:10:30 believe it virgin as a maiden
01:10:32 at the ripe age to give birth yes i do
01:10:35 believe that and that’s a whole other
01:10:36 subject and i’ve written on that a
01:10:37 little bit and maybe one day i’ll write
01:10:39 more and i can give you a reference to a
01:10:41 kindle book that gets into tons of
01:10:43 details and more ancient documents that
01:10:45 shows that joseph
01:10:48 mary’s husband literally was
01:10:50 yeshua’s physical father
01:10:53 okay that’s actually that that would
01:10:55 actually be really interesting
01:10:57 uh okay remind me and i’ll give you a
01:10:59 link to it um yeah
01:11:01 okay
01:11:03 so this this one i’m not gonna point the
01:11:04 post because it’s a little more
01:11:06 convoluted but it does say the same
01:11:09 thing as all these other ones right
01:11:11 you’re right
01:11:13 uh so jerome has one
01:11:17 wherefore the prophets and the priests
01:11:19 and the teachers
01:11:21 did labor diligently of court exhorting
01:11:24 with all long-suffering the people’s
01:11:25 diligence
01:11:27 teaching the law of moses daily
01:11:29 performances and ordinances
01:11:32 and the intent purpose look forward unto
01:11:34 the messiah for which if the law of
01:11:36 moses thinks the types of things to come
01:11:38 was given
01:11:39 persuading them to look forward unto the
01:11:42 messiah
01:11:43 again saying the same thing
01:11:45 look forward to the messiah
01:11:49 and believe in him as though he already
01:11:51 was
01:11:54 that’s how come they had the atone they
01:11:55 could feel the effects of the atonement
01:11:57 back then
01:11:58 right
01:11:59 yeah anyways
01:12:00 and after this matter did they teach
01:12:02 them
01:12:04 they taught him what the law of moses
01:12:06 was back then where today
01:12:09 most of us don’t
01:12:11 don’t even know there’s a difference
01:12:13 but don’t even know there is a
01:12:15 difference between the law of moses and
01:12:16 portal yeah you go talk to a typical
01:12:18 christian and a typical jew
01:12:21 they will tell you law moses and torah
01:12:23 are exactly the same they’ll use it
01:12:24 interchangeably
01:12:25 i will not because i know there’s a
01:12:27 difference because of things in the
01:12:29 bible
01:12:30 old and new testament and book of mormon
01:12:32 i think it’s more clear in the book of
01:12:33 mormon than the bible but it’s in both
01:12:37 well
01:12:38 what i’m
01:12:39 what yeah and what i’m trying to sort
01:12:40 out in the bible is which of those
01:12:43 command is figuring out which of those
01:12:45 are related to true torah which of the
01:12:48 613 commandments 613 is the false
01:12:51 tradition of the sadducees and the
01:12:53 pharisees the orthodox
01:12:55 yeah but some of those commandments are
01:12:56 true
01:12:57 oh sure so a lot of some of them they do
01:13:00 are proof texting
01:13:01 um to put in their babylon traditions
01:13:04 because they love that stuff
01:13:07 but the 613 is a false tradition um ux
01:13:11 you ask two different rabbis
01:13:13 you’ll get three different lists of what
01:13:15 those commandments are it’s because
01:13:17 they just love the number 613
01:13:21 yeah it has significance to their
01:13:24 mysteries of satan to put it honestly
01:13:28 um but anyways
01:13:30 um
01:13:32 but
01:13:35 there’s two great commandments love god
01:13:37 love your neighbor
01:13:38 right and then there’s ten expounding
01:13:41 those two because if you go look at
01:13:43 those ten
01:13:44 there’s five about um
01:13:47 your authority how to take care of your
01:13:49 authority and then there’s five about
01:13:51 your neighbors
01:13:54 yeah and or enemies to be if you get
01:13:56 into some of the details but anyways
01:13:59 um it’s generally called neighbors but i
01:14:01 think enemies is appropriate also in
01:14:03 fact even on the sermon on the mount
01:14:04 kind of brings that out right um
01:14:07 but
01:14:08 in fact even the parable of the good
01:14:10 samaritan brings that out in fact here’s
01:14:12 a good point on that
01:14:14 uh when yeshua asked
01:14:17 i think it was a lawyer if i remember
01:14:18 off top my head the lawyer how do you
01:14:21 read the law
01:14:22 because without the vows
01:14:24 neighbor and enemy are the same without
01:14:27 the vows
01:14:30 and in the parable he distinctly
01:14:33 did an enemy instead of a neighbor
01:14:36 samaritan the jews and the samaritans
01:14:38 hated each other they were enemies with
01:14:39 each other they shouldn’t have been
01:14:41 i mean even that oh
01:14:43 here’s an interesting a samaritan
01:14:46 is of joseph okay
01:14:49 yes
01:14:50 because they’re jews
01:14:52 right yeah joseph
01:14:54 the sentence yeah the descendants of
01:14:56 joseph they’re actually right i mean
01:14:58 they’re a little mixed but so are most
01:15:00 of joseph today right right you know
01:15:04 um
01:15:07 the messiah of joseph is is not joseph
01:15:10 smith like
01:15:11 most of the restorationists
01:15:13 stay it’s not it’s the first coming of
01:15:16 the messiah
01:15:18 versus the
01:15:19 messiah of david or judah is the second
01:15:22 coming
01:15:24 as the king
01:15:26 versus joseph the suffering servant
01:15:30 and what christ did during his first
01:15:32 coming what he did
01:15:33 he saw people who got had their
01:15:37 garments taking off meaning their
01:15:38 separation from god
01:15:41 he then gave them bread which is the
01:15:44 word of god
01:15:45 and then put oil on them
01:15:48 which is his spirit
01:15:50 he’ll to help them heal
01:15:52 and then took them to someone else to
01:15:54 help take care of them
01:15:56 which is the church right and he said
01:15:58 i’ll be back in two days i mean
01:16:00 it doesn’t come out and say two days but
01:16:02 it is two days and i can get into those
01:16:03 details if you want there’s such
01:16:05 prophetic yeah there’s a lot which is 2
01:16:07 000 years and he’ll be back
01:16:10 there is so much in these parables and
01:16:14 even the histories
01:16:16 that most people because they don’t
01:16:18 study are lost onto them
01:16:20 the parable of the good samaritan is
01:16:23 about yeshua when you go look at the
01:16:25 details
01:16:26 yeah
01:16:27 that makes sense
01:16:29 that makes sense
01:16:31 um
01:16:32 anyways so we can keep reading more of
01:16:35 these or we can skip down to look at
01:16:38 what the
01:16:39 where in torah talks about the daily
01:16:41 performances and ordinances
01:16:43 but
01:16:44 and this is something i’m not prepared
01:16:46 to do right now but when you look at the
01:16:48 what taurus says about those and some
01:16:52 extra biblical sources there’s a place
01:16:54 for that i will admit there’s like i
01:16:56 even said i’m quoting another one but
01:16:58 i tend to avoid it but there’s a place
01:17:00 for in some things
01:17:02 um
01:17:04 it’s more that you can see what they’re
01:17:06 doing more than you should go to see
01:17:08 what you should do if that makes sense
01:17:10 because they did a lot of things they
01:17:11 weren’t supposed to do
01:17:13 right
01:17:14 um
01:17:15 but
01:17:17 when christ said i it is finished he was
01:17:20 saying what the high priest said at
01:17:22 those ceremonies at the end it is
01:17:24 finished because
01:17:25 that
01:17:27 um
01:17:28 the daily performance and ordinances
01:17:31 foretell the everything he did for the
01:17:33 atonement in the last hours of his life
01:17:40 huh
01:17:41 the atonement is an ordinance yeah
01:17:45 that’s really cool
01:17:47 um i’ve thought of it that way before
01:17:49 but now that i think of it that way it
01:17:51 makes everything make sense
01:17:53 right and so
01:17:56 here’s another thing for you bones have
01:17:58 to do with laws
01:18:00 christ was a lamb with not a broken bone
01:18:03 christ was a lamb with had not broken
01:18:05 any
01:18:06 law
01:18:07 or commandment which was necessary for
01:18:10 him
01:18:11 to do because
01:18:15 death had no claim on him so he could
01:18:17 break it
01:18:20 because if he had sinned
01:18:22 get what’s the punishment of sin
01:18:24 death yeah
01:18:26 and so because he had not sinned
01:18:29 it had no power over him so he could
01:18:32 break it
01:18:33 so for the rest of us could benefit
01:18:36 now everyone gets the physical benefit
01:18:38 resurrection
01:18:40 the righteous and the wicked
01:18:42 those who come under his authority into
01:18:45 his house
01:18:46 will not have
01:18:48 to go through the spiritual death but
01:18:50 that’s only if you come under his name
01:18:52 his authority into his house
01:18:56 which then he will take care of you
01:19:00 anyways
01:19:01 we come on and we come into
01:19:04 and we come into that authority under
01:19:05 his name by
01:19:07 repenting and returning to the torah sir
01:19:10 well fyi
01:19:11 in the name of or under the name is a
01:19:13 hebrew idiom for coming under his
01:19:15 authority
01:19:16 name is an idiom for authority
01:19:18 in in hebrew and
01:19:20 in times you’ll even see it in english
01:19:23 still though it’s kind of
01:19:25 dying but
01:19:27 name
01:19:28 is an idiom for authority
01:19:32 um
01:19:33 and
01:19:34 so here’s an interesting thing for you
01:19:36 um
01:19:39 so a child right
01:19:42 uh they’re completely covered by the
01:19:44 atonement
01:19:45 and it’s only when you get to
01:19:48 like adult age that if you keep sitting
01:19:50 then you’re thrown out
01:19:53 because at that point
01:19:55 you’ve had enough chances to really
01:19:57 decide if you want
01:19:59 to follow the law or not
01:20:02 and so just as a father if you keep
01:20:04 up to a certain age a father still has
01:20:06 the responsibility
01:20:08 to take care of you
01:20:10 just like a child right yeah he’s not
01:20:12 going to tick you out
01:20:14 age of accountability
01:20:16 but once you hit that age and you just
01:20:18 keep doing it doing it doing it
01:20:20 you’re kicked out you are not you are
01:20:22 now dead as in spiritual death you’re
01:20:25 kicked out i mean you’ll always accept
01:20:27 you back if you come back like the
01:20:29 parable of the two wayward sons some to
01:20:34 say one but you’ll
01:20:36 you know the one that went away
01:20:38 is the main focus but the one that
01:20:39 stayed still had problems right
01:20:43 the two particle suns it would probably
01:20:44 be a better title than the particles
01:20:47 well if you really look at it the one
01:20:48 that stayed was particle also just in a
01:20:50 different way which fyi the jews
01:20:54 and joseph
01:20:57 aka gentiles
01:20:59 yeah
01:21:01 all these things are so full prophet and
01:21:03 then guess what
01:21:05 the father
01:21:07 killed the fatted calf
01:21:09 to bring them back
01:21:12 christ is the fatted calf that died for
01:21:15 us
01:21:16 as the son
01:21:21 this stuff is beautiful and is so well
01:21:24 thought out
01:21:26 well
01:21:35 oh yes
01:21:36 amen to that
01:21:38 no man could have thought of all this
01:21:40 stuff and all the inner connections
01:21:42 especially the old testament were
01:21:45 so today we take printing for granted
01:21:47 right
01:21:48 back then
01:21:50 oh no you might be lucky if you had one
01:21:52 verse
01:22:01 uh so that’s a false tradition
01:22:03 i know that i know but i’m just saying
01:22:06 that
01:22:07 all right so you are serious you’re
01:22:09 joking that’s good yeah
01:22:11 i guess i didn’t catch the joke part um
01:22:14 yeah okay you know right next to that
01:22:16 verse is one that needs to be written on
01:22:17 your heart um so
01:22:19 i
01:22:20 i i know no jew who does the the box in
01:22:24 fact you know what’s crazy
01:22:26 that is a black square box you know what
01:22:29 that is that’s satan
01:22:31 yep islam what is their holy place
01:22:34 a black dog
01:22:36 yeah
01:22:39 um
01:22:40 and so
01:22:42 anyways
01:22:43 yeah there’s not many so many things so
01:22:45 many things where it’s been
01:22:47 so many things where they just
01:22:50 gave in oh sure you know the mark of the
01:22:52 beast is right here
01:22:54 i mean there’s two spots here and here
01:22:56 right
01:22:57 uh yeah they’re putting the
01:23:00 little
01:23:01 flat cube i’m satan
01:23:04 right in the right spot
01:23:06 yeah
01:23:07 no but at the same time
01:23:09 that imagery comes from that’s where
01:23:11 we’re supposed to have torah we’re
01:23:12 supposed to have it on our hands
01:23:15 right because it’s what we do and on our
01:23:17 because that’s what we think about and
01:23:19 that’s the thing the seal of god is on
01:23:22 their forehead
01:23:23 correct yeah
01:23:25 and the other part of this seal is the
01:23:27 sabbath
01:23:28 exactly the seal of god in the
01:23:31 commandments is placed on the sabbath
01:23:33 day
01:23:35 which
01:23:36 is why i believe god got me to start
01:23:38 looking at the lunar sabbath
01:23:40 yeah because
01:23:41 the the mark of the devil is to do
01:23:44 whatever you want however you want
01:23:47 on
01:23:48 different from god’s way
01:23:52 and god’s seal is doing it his way
01:23:56 i mean
01:23:58 i still make mistakes and i’m still
01:23:59 learning
01:24:00 but i don’t make excuses there’s a
01:24:03 difference between making excuses
01:24:06 versus recognizing repenting and
01:24:08 striving to go back
01:24:10 which is repenting returning to the law
01:24:12 right exactly i mean the one group that
01:24:14 we met in doctrine of christ part of the
01:24:16 doctrine of christ is repenting and they
01:24:18 don’t like to focus on that part
01:24:19 repenting means returning to the law
01:24:22 they they they actually have a
01:24:25 different
01:24:27 it seems like they have a different
01:24:29 definition of repentance wherever they
01:24:32 do because they have to talk about
01:24:33 repentance is just you get rid of all of
01:24:35 your false traditions from the church
01:24:38 and there you go you’re good to go
01:24:40 well but without the law you’re still
01:24:43 stuck with new false traditions
01:24:45 yeah because you’re tr especially when
01:24:48 they’re trying to tell me that the law
01:24:49 of god is something that gets put into
01:24:52 your head by the holy ghost
01:24:55 so the holy ghost is the law and i can
01:24:58 show that from the book of mormon well
01:25:00 the holy ghost is the law but that’s
01:25:03 but right it’s not
01:25:05 it’s not in the way that they’re saying
01:25:07 it
01:25:08 well sure sure but yes i agree with you
01:25:10 they’re twisted
01:25:14 that’s actually kind of where we ran
01:25:16 into loggerheads because i
01:25:18 thought that you were talking about it
01:25:19 the way that they were talking about it
01:25:22 and i was like
01:25:23 i was like
01:25:24 their idea the holy ghost is them
01:25:26 getting some revelation that tells them
01:25:28 what they think is okay
01:25:31 i mean they won’t say it that way but
01:25:33 that’s basically what it is
01:25:35 yeah it’s self style it’s self-styled
01:25:36 salvation
01:25:38 yeah
01:25:39 so it’s uh it’s interesting even just
01:25:42 recently they start bringing out you
01:25:43 know moroni seven maroney seven
01:25:46 in today’s christian world how to tell
01:25:49 evil and good from each other it’s just
01:25:50 kind of like oh i don’t know it’s
01:25:52 unclear
01:25:53 i think it’s this and i think it’s that
01:25:55 there’s no clear definitions on how to
01:25:57 tell good from evil in the general
01:25:58 christian world
01:26:00 right
01:26:01 right
01:26:02 but moroni 7 says it is clear to
01:26:05 determine this discern between good and
01:26:08 evil you know how you do that and how
01:26:10 god tells us to do that
01:26:11 torah
01:26:14 it is very
01:26:16 cold cut clear
01:26:18 no if ends or buts it’s right there
01:26:22 black and white
01:26:24 it’s clear it’s very discernible
01:26:28 moroni seven the interesting the
01:26:30 interesting thing is
01:26:32 is that uh
01:26:37 flows through the torah
01:26:39 oh yeah
01:26:42 the holy spirit is god’s mind as taught
01:26:45 in lectures on page five
01:26:47 and was it
01:26:49 philippians i’d have to go double check
01:26:50 but it’s in the new testament too
01:26:52 um
01:26:53 and most christians
01:26:55 think the holy spirit is some new thing
01:26:58 with christ but it’s in torah
01:27:01 [Laughter]
01:27:10 how do you think
01:27:12 that noah
01:27:13 how do you think that noah conversed
01:27:15 with god
01:27:17 well he kept the law so that way he
01:27:19 could yeah so he kept the law and was
01:27:22 able to it was and was brought into his
01:27:24 presence
01:27:26 yeah
01:27:26 because i if i i know a lot of people
01:27:29 are confused in in every aspect or every
01:27:34 denominations or sex on this whether you
01:27:36 can see the face of god or not because
01:27:38 taurus states that you can
01:27:40 yeah the problem is
01:27:42 i mean moses took up um
01:27:45 70 with him to go see the face of god
01:27:47 and they came down and said that they
01:27:49 saw the face of god
01:27:52 literally saw the face of god anyways um
01:27:55 but the problem is
01:27:57 if you see the face of god and you’re
01:27:58 still in sin
01:28:00 you will get
01:28:01 burned destroyed now if you go see the
01:28:05 face of god and you’ve repented of all
01:28:07 your sins you’ll get burned and
01:28:09 sanctified
01:28:11 yep
01:28:12 and so
01:28:13 are you going to go on the good side
01:28:14 when you see it or i mean
01:28:16 sanctified or destroyed side when that
01:28:19 face comes
01:28:20 um
01:28:22 i
01:28:23 i want the sanctified
01:28:25 well and that’s that’s why the that’s
01:28:27 why the second
01:28:29 that’s why they say the second coming
01:28:31 the lord comes with fire
01:28:33 yeah uh fire is uh
01:28:35 symbolic of judgment
01:28:38 uh now whether that’s a good judgment or
01:28:39 bad judgment depends on what you’re
01:28:41 doing
01:28:42 but that’s coming
01:28:44 is about just i always tell people we’re
01:28:46 choosing our fire right now we’re
01:28:48 choosing our phone
01:28:51 a little different but i know what
01:28:52 you’re getting too
01:28:56 yeah fire’s judgment and uh which side
01:28:59 of the judgment are you going to be on
01:29:01 are you going to be on the side that’s
01:29:02 lifted up are you going to be on the
01:29:03 side that’s crushed down pat
01:29:05 here’s an interesting thought for you
01:29:07 i’ll try to do this um
01:29:11 but i believe in an interesting thing
01:29:12 called the polar configuration
01:29:14 um and the crescent on saturn
01:29:18 used uh i’m doing it backwards so i’ll
01:29:21 try to do how you see it i think this is
01:29:23 your right correct
01:29:25 yes so on the right side
01:29:29 they’re lifted and if you keep going on
01:29:31 the left side they’re crushed
01:29:34 because of the
01:29:35 yeah
01:29:37 um anyways that’s a whole nother subject
01:29:39 well yeah and
01:29:40 and there we get into these and there we
01:29:42 get into the symbolism of uh there’s a
01:29:45 lot of symbols associated with that
01:29:47 sure sure uh so here’s another one uh as
01:29:50 going along with joseph as the suffering
01:29:53 serpent or you know um
01:29:55 symbolic of the suffering servant the
01:29:57 first coming of the christ
01:30:00 when uh joseph was in the jail pit pit
01:30:04 is symbolic of hell two
01:30:06 men came to him
01:30:08 and they had dreams right one dreamt
01:30:11 that he um
01:30:13 returned
01:30:14 uh the cup of wine to the king and he
01:30:17 was accepted and was joyful the other
01:30:20 one had the bread
01:30:22 and
01:30:23 black crows
01:30:26 bread on his head crushing him
01:30:29 and black crows pecking out his eyes
01:30:32 so we can talk about those symbols in
01:30:34 just a minute on both sides
01:30:36 when christ was on the cross just about
01:30:38 to go into hell
01:30:40 into the pit
01:30:42 there was two thieves
01:30:44 one on the left one on the right one
01:30:46 was accepted and went to him to paradise
01:30:49 and the other one went to hell because
01:30:51 he’s i don’t remember the exact words
01:30:53 but he was just like oh save yourself he
01:30:55 didn’t believe him save yourself and us
01:30:58 yeah um but anyways
01:31:01 one got crushed by the law
01:31:04 one got lifted up by the sanctification
01:31:07 of the atonement
01:31:09 wine is symbolic of the atonement and
01:31:12 joy that comes from that
01:31:15 the blood of the
01:31:17 vine is where it’s talked about in the
01:31:19 scriptures which is
01:31:22 compared to the blood of the messiah
01:31:27 there’s reasons they use the imagery
01:31:28 they do for talking about these things
01:31:30 because
01:31:31 blood of the grapevine or blood of the
01:31:33 vine that sounds funny right
01:31:37 but it’s pointing to christ
01:31:39 christ’s
01:31:41 blood
01:31:51 if you get the right color it’s even
01:31:53 it’s even the right color
01:31:54 so
01:31:55 on that point here you’ll love this
01:31:58 point
01:31:59 just before christ went to the cross
01:32:01 his
01:32:02 flesh was bruised right yes
01:32:06 the reason why the blood of the vine
01:32:09 turns red is because the blue’s skin
01:32:14 is
01:32:15 uh fermented with it
01:32:17 that’s where the color comes from
01:32:20 the bruised skin just as christ’s skin
01:32:22 that is really cool that’s really cool
01:32:24 actually
01:32:25 i’m not just making this up you can go
01:32:27 study wine making i have yeah yeah yeah
01:32:29 um
01:32:30 it’s without the skin that’s what makes
01:32:33 it white
01:32:35 with the skin
01:32:36 the bruised skin actually it needs to be
01:32:38 bruised skin that’s what makes it red
01:32:41 that’s
01:32:42 that’s really yeah that
01:32:43 yeah i mean
01:32:45 yeah that makes sense
01:32:47 that’s really it kind of like uh
01:32:49 uh oh i always forget the the hard bread
01:32:52 that the jews use uh i always forget the
01:32:54 name of it i use it sometimes
01:32:59 yeah
01:33:00 so on there they have
01:33:02 the lines on it looks like it’s bruised
01:33:05 isenio talks about how uh using that
01:33:08 imagery that christ will be bruised
01:33:10 because he was whipped
01:33:12 amen
01:33:13 um
01:33:14 so
01:33:17 yeah anyways that’s another way where uh
01:33:20 joseph
01:33:22 is symbolic of christ’s first coming
01:33:25 yeah
01:33:28 joseph
01:33:29 yeah the messiah of joseph it’s not
01:33:32 joseph smith like a lot of
01:33:34 restorationists want to claim no you
01:33:37 i’ve not only the eldest church bringing
01:33:39 my church does it i’ve seen rlds and
01:33:42 their break offs claim that too
01:33:44 that’s not the case yeah the the
01:33:50 but the
01:33:51 yeah
01:33:52 so that’s but that’s
01:33:54 at the same time
01:33:56 there are prophecies which
01:33:59 there are prophecies in isaiah which
01:34:00 state
01:34:02 knowing that jesus christ is going to be
01:34:04 coming again
01:34:05 there are prophecies in isaiah which
01:34:07 talk of an elias
01:34:09 sure yes
01:34:11 uh that’s that that’s different though
01:34:14 that’s different than the
01:34:17 right messiah
01:34:17 it’s uh it’s a very important role
01:34:20 preparatory for sure
01:34:22 um there’s gonna be
01:34:24 a john baptist today i mean generally
01:34:27 speaking we talk at the mighty and
01:34:28 strong one but he’s
01:34:30 john the baptist
01:34:33 right
01:34:34 yeah same the same general the same
01:34:36 general the same call they’re both
01:34:38 elijah or i always get those two mixed
01:34:40 up elijah elisha um anyways they have
01:34:42 the same
01:34:44 calling title to them
01:34:46 um
01:34:48 to pair straight away
01:34:50 and just as one is
01:34:52 just as one was to prepare the way the
01:34:54 suffering servant the other one is to
01:34:57 prepare the way for the king
01:34:59 who is the suffering servant
01:35:01 who is the suffering servant but but
01:35:04 yeah a different um
01:35:06 role at that time
01:35:08 but uh jacob five
01:35:10 near the end
01:35:12 uh brings out how the mighty and strong
01:35:15 one will be returning people back to
01:35:17 torah
01:35:18 yeah
01:35:19 and jacob five uh near the end um but
01:35:22 anyways
01:35:24 yeah
01:35:25 there’s a lot of things about that
01:35:26 mighty and strong one that are very
01:35:27 interesting no i agree and
01:35:30 i have been we should talk about it some
01:35:32 other time there’s some things that i’ve
01:35:34 been working on putting into another
01:35:36 post on that where that’s part of the
01:35:38 subject and
01:35:40 um
01:35:40 including bones like i talked about
01:35:42 would be going on and the symbolism of
01:35:44 bones and you’ll see that in ezekiel 37.
01:35:51 and the context and when you see the
01:35:53 symbolisms is the same
01:35:55 and the things that they do
01:35:58 you know what the in later mosiah 20ish
01:36:01 i forget but are
01:36:03 or mid-teens anyways i can’t remember
01:36:05 exactly where but they go get
01:36:07 the golden plates
01:36:09 from people
01:36:10 uh that had dry bones it really fits
01:36:13 really well as equals 37. yeah that’s
01:36:16 actually yeah that’s pretty cool
01:36:21 imagery
01:36:23 is important
01:36:24 yeah
01:36:26 because
01:36:26 the the thing that you have to bear the
01:36:28 thing that you have to bear in mind is
01:36:30 all the mysteries are concealed behind
01:36:32 symbols oh yeah yeah and the book of
01:36:34 mormon tells us that and i can show you
01:36:36 some verses if you want on that but
01:36:38 i don’t know if you want to go look at
01:36:40 continue these book of mormon end of uh
01:36:42 you know law of moses ones or we could
01:36:44 go look at the law of moses and torah to
01:36:46 get a general idea but
01:36:49 yeah i mean
01:36:51 yeah this is
01:36:54 so
01:36:55 pretty
01:36:56 i i’m more prone to stick with this um
01:36:58 these verses and go on and look at more
01:37:00 after but it’s up to you i’m i’m let’s
01:37:03 go let’s go here
01:37:05 okay
01:37:07 so this one doesn’t
01:37:08 uh oh wait i think we read this one
01:37:10 right the general yes we did jerome
01:37:13 this one’s not a big one so i i’d be
01:37:16 more per per
01:37:19 prefer to skip it
01:37:20 yeah
01:37:21 really add some of the context of that
01:37:24 i’m trying to bring out it’s just kind
01:37:25 of there
01:37:26 but this one’s good it does kind of add
01:37:28 to the context
01:37:29 yeah and i’ll read this one
01:37:31 okay yet the lord god which is yahweh
01:37:35 elohim
01:37:37 it’s one entity
01:37:40 different names where some people think
01:37:42 they’re different book of mormon
01:37:44 interchanges these things all the time
01:37:45 so does torah
01:37:47 well the interesting thing is that
01:37:48 elohim
01:37:50 in elohim in hebrew actually
01:37:53 in
01:37:55 in hebrew actually has a kind of a
01:37:57 plural connotation uh it’s majestic
01:37:59 plural
01:38:00 which apply to it’s a singular applied
01:38:03 to royalty i’ll give you this that you
01:38:05 can go look into more later
01:38:07 okay because that’s another subject but
01:38:08 it’s majestic pearl is what it is
01:38:11 okay um
01:38:12 and when you look at all the creation
01:38:14 accounts and then statements in the book
01:38:16 of mormon
01:38:17 so in the creation accounts
01:38:19 it’s generally used the majestic plural
01:38:22 but when crisis comes out and says stuff
01:38:24 in the book of mormon he says i did this
01:38:26 he does not say we did this
01:38:29 right anyways majestic plural is an old
01:38:32 grammar that has been long and forgotten
01:38:34 um
01:38:35 and
01:38:37 and this gets to the point that jesus is
01:38:39 this father and the son
01:38:42 yep
01:38:43 i mean mosiah 15 1 through whatever
01:38:47 first couple verses you guess what it
01:38:49 talks about the father and the son and
01:38:51 the holy ghost
01:38:53 and
01:38:54 that’s a wonderful thing to look at
01:38:56 maybe we’ll have to do another time
01:38:57 because i’m sidetracking us again sorry
01:38:59 that’s my fault
01:39:02 um
01:39:02 oh yeah i tend to be pretty good at
01:39:04 waving shiny things in front of people
01:39:06 uh yeah
01:39:09 and i i i might grab on to it
01:39:13 so this one uh is more along the lines
01:39:16 showing the purpose of it
01:39:18 uh yet the lord god
01:39:21 or
01:39:22 yahweh elohim saw that his people were
01:39:24 stiff naked people
01:39:27 and he appointed on them allah and i
01:39:30 would kind of put punishment even the
01:39:32 law of moses
01:39:35 i mean it’s kind of a law and it’s kind
01:39:37 of a punishment it’s kind of
01:39:39 both right but anyways
01:39:42 um so that shows the context why it was
01:39:45 needed
01:39:46 because they’re wicked
01:39:48 yeah they needed the extra reminders
01:39:50 right
01:39:51 and wicked
01:39:52 wicked means um
01:39:55 means of course or of course for
01:39:58 material
01:39:59 uh yes um
01:40:01 those who
01:40:03 um
01:40:04 because there’s are less prone to listen
01:40:07 in fact
01:40:08 yeah on that point this is something we
01:40:10 can talk about another time
01:40:11 uh
01:40:12 dc76 and the feasts
01:40:15 and the three kingdoms
01:40:18 the feasts when you look at them point
01:40:21 to the three kingdoms
01:40:23 that’s pretty cool and the harvesting
01:40:25 that has and the details of the
01:40:27 harvesting that goes along with them
01:40:28 points of the three kingdoms
01:40:30 interesting very interesting anyways uh
01:40:33 that’s one of the many things i want to
01:40:35 write on but i get
01:40:36 so down in some of the details of some
01:40:38 of the ones that i’m working on to try
01:40:40 to make it so obvious like uh nephi said
01:40:42 that you cannot air right where is that
01:40:45 but you could not misunderstand okay i
01:40:47 remember it was slightly wrong sorry
01:40:49 nephi
01:40:51 you cannot misunderstand yeah so i try
01:40:54 to do that um
01:40:56 though i know people still do
01:41:00 well
01:41:01 and what i’ve what i found is that
01:41:04 that’s because they want to
01:41:07 well isaiah 8 says it’s because they
01:41:09 have no light in them
01:41:11 it’s because they want to misunderstand
01:41:14 well it’s because they like their sins
01:41:15 that they can do with those
01:41:17 misunderstandings because they have no
01:41:18 light
01:41:19 yeah they’re not born again
01:41:22 the
01:41:23 you have
01:41:24 and what is light
01:41:27 light is the law
01:41:29 torah
01:41:30 yeah i mean according to psalms that is
01:41:33 anyways but what is that no
01:41:36 uh what does the psalmist know anyway
01:41:39 yeah well this guy
01:41:41 well there’s multiple david wasn’t the
01:41:43 only one um
01:41:46 there’s multiple psalmists
01:41:49 how do you say plural and i mean so in
01:41:52 in the written language you put the
01:41:53 apostrophe after the s to do plural and
01:41:56 possessive but how do you say that in in
01:41:58 the oral language right
01:42:02 [Laughter]
01:42:07 all right okay
01:42:08 here this is a good one
01:42:11 okay
01:42:13 many signs and wonders types and shadows
01:42:16 to come show he onto them
01:42:18 that’s a
01:42:19 ba concerning his coming
01:42:23 and also holy prophets spake unto them
01:42:26 back to ba concerning his coming
01:42:30 and yet they hardened their hearts
01:42:35 and understood not that the law of moses
01:42:38 types and shadows concerning his coming
01:42:41 in his coming availeth nothing
01:42:45 except it were through the atonement of
01:42:47 his blood
01:42:48 which it’s pointing to that
01:42:51 except
01:42:54 through the atonement which is what it’s
01:42:55 pointing to
01:42:56 yep
01:42:58 um
01:43:00 so this is some of the probably some of
01:43:01 the alma i mean mosaic 12 ones you’re
01:43:03 talking about um yeah
01:43:07 i we can read them i like the mazaya 13
01:43:09 ones more but i mean
01:43:11 yeah
01:43:12 i i actually wonder this is one of the
01:43:14 on many of my many to-do lists i wonder
01:43:17 if you do a big chiasm
01:43:19 if
01:43:20 those two would somehow go with these
01:43:22 other mossiah 13 ones
01:43:25 yeah well plus there’s the verse that
01:43:27 states i know that if you keep the
01:43:29 commandments he shall be saved and what
01:43:31 i tend to do is i start
01:43:34 it’s part and we could go look at the
01:43:35 definitions but keeping the commandments
01:43:37 is part of being saved it’s not all of
01:43:40 it
01:43:40 yeah
01:43:41 because you have to come under yahshua
01:43:43 as the authority but i but i
01:43:45 i guess uh
01:43:47 the uh
01:43:49 but i generally tend to start there
01:43:52 because
01:43:53 and then go towards that go to that
01:43:56 place in 14 where it states specifically
01:44:00 that the law of moses does not save
01:44:02 because i’m trying to teach people that
01:44:04 there are two laws sure yeah torah law
01:44:07 of moses um yeah but uh on those and
01:44:10 we’d have to go look at the specific
01:44:11 readings what maybe we should do later
01:44:13 so that we don’t get too sidetracked but
01:44:16 it’s really carefully worded it says
01:44:18 that it’s part of being saved keeping
01:44:20 the commandments is part of being saved
01:44:22 it’s not what saves you
01:44:24 it’s a portion of it
01:44:27 which is also pointing
01:44:30 to christ in fact this is a lot of what
01:44:31 this little section is pointing to
01:44:34 christ’s atonement yeah yeah that well
01:44:36 that’s the value of this of the verses
01:44:38 in chapter in chapter 13 right and
01:44:41 bennett is pointing out how they don’t
01:44:42 understand it
01:44:44 and then it points to christ’s
01:44:46 atonement which is foreshadowed in the
01:44:50 daily performances and ordinances and
01:44:52 mosiah 13 it’s been a
01:44:54 the 2931’s been a
01:44:57 a big come to for mine to help people
01:45:00 see because it actually
01:45:02 really just comes out and says it
01:45:05 like and we’ll get there in a minute
01:45:06 unless you want to skip over yeah well
01:45:08 let’s go
01:45:09 let’s go so this is my uh uh big go
01:45:13 because it’s not too long because you
01:45:14 see some of these other ones are kind of
01:45:16 long they say that right and some of
01:45:18 them are kind of long but this one’s a
01:45:19 really good one yeah my favorite one on
01:45:21 it
01:45:22 and now i say unto you that it is
01:45:24 expedient that there should be a law
01:45:26 given to the children of israel yea a
01:45:28 very strict law for they were a
01:45:30 stiff-necked people quick to do iniquity
01:45:35 therefore there was a law given to them
01:45:38 given them yeah a law of performance and
01:45:40 ordinances a law which they were too
01:45:42 strict observed strictly from day to day
01:45:45 to keep them in remembrance of god and
01:45:47 their duty towards him but behold i say
01:45:49 unto you that these were these things
01:45:52 were types of things to come
01:45:54 yeah it just says it right there
01:45:57 yeah
01:45:58 right there
01:46:00 uh and it even gives the context of why
01:46:02 it happened
01:46:04 stiff naked quick to do iniquity
01:46:07 that’s why they got it
01:46:09 it’s giving
01:46:11 the history that goes along with it of
01:46:14 why they got it
01:46:20 uh and i mean these verses right here
01:46:22 pretty much say the same thing you know
01:46:24 they’re stiff naked
01:46:30 yep
01:46:32 sorry i gotta
01:46:33 i’m
01:46:35 i’m just stuck over a little cough
01:46:37 so give me one second
01:46:43 um
01:46:44 okay
01:46:45 so i i drink black tea and i drink
01:46:48 herbal tea
01:46:50 okay
01:46:51 but
01:46:52 i like my black tea with milk and honey
01:46:55 there you go
01:46:58 and whenever i’m putting it in i’m
01:46:59 thinking what milk and honey is um but
01:47:01 anyways there you go
01:47:03 um
01:47:05 so this kind of says the same thing for
01:47:07 behold did not moses prophesy in them
01:47:09 concerning the messiah
01:47:12 i i
01:47:15 christians
01:47:16 and jews think it it wasn’t there isaiah
01:47:18 53 is actually the forbidden
01:47:21 chapter
01:47:23 in jewish synagogues
01:47:25 they also hate daniel
01:47:27 9 actually all of daniel but
01:47:29 specifically daniel 9 because
01:47:32 it tells them the time is up right the
01:47:35 70 weeks is gone
01:47:37 the jig is up
01:47:38 yeah
01:47:40 um in fact i’ve had jews come talk to me
01:47:42 like messiah hasn’t come yet i’m like
01:47:44 well um do you believe in daniel and
01:47:46 profit yes so what do you think about
01:47:47 the 70 weeks prophecy
01:47:50 and then they
01:47:51 don’t talk to me anymore
01:47:54 you know i’m serious
01:47:56 yeah
01:47:57 no it’s
01:47:58 that’s
01:47:59 once i tend to laugh i tend to laugh a
01:48:02 lot
01:48:03 about things
01:48:04 that doesn’t mean
01:48:06 that i think it was a joke
01:48:08 it just means oh well there you go it’s
01:48:11 more like a kind of a
01:48:14 that’s yeah yeah
01:48:16 it’s it’s kind of sad and funny but you
01:48:20 know
01:48:22 so
01:48:23 even when i was a brigham i right um
01:48:27 i didn’t really follow the leaders that
01:48:29 much and so i think that’s partly which
01:48:31 has saved me to help me wake up to
01:48:33 things um
01:48:35 but at the same time i didn’t see this
01:48:37 stuff
01:48:38 right it wasn’t until later even when i
01:48:41 would say i was born again
01:48:43 i didn’t see it it takes time and
01:48:46 diligent
01:48:47 distantly
01:48:49 seeking
01:48:51 through this scripture study and praying
01:48:54 yeah
01:48:57 yeah you gotta you gotta keep at it sure
01:49:00 i mean that’s that’s one of the things
01:49:02 that i’m telling people now
01:49:05 you know because
01:49:07 some of these people that i’ve been
01:49:09 dealing with lately we’ve had to deal
01:49:11 with uh coming to face to face with a
01:49:13 false prophet in our midst
01:49:15 oh then
01:49:17 there’s a restoration movement
01:49:19 yeah and um
01:49:21 and i keep and i keep telling them the
01:49:24 first
01:49:25 sign of a false prophet
01:49:27 is that they teach against
01:49:31 the law yeah deuteronomy 13 18
01:49:35 and then also alma 30 is following
01:49:37 deuteronomy 13 18 point by point
01:49:41 yep which is you know against you know
01:49:43 teaching against the law false prophet
01:49:46 it’s right there and you were supposed
01:49:47 to buy the book of mormon
01:49:49 alma 30 right there
01:49:51 13 and 18 in alma 30. point by point
01:49:55 yeah
01:49:56 um
01:49:57 but
01:49:59 most people who don’t study the law
01:50:00 don’t see these things
01:50:02 um even people who do study the law
01:50:04 don’t see it because
01:50:05 it takes time for it to germinate
01:50:08 to eleven so like
01:50:11 this is interesting christ has a parable
01:50:13 a new testament of three measures
01:50:17 of meal and leaven right of the bread
01:50:21 right it takes time leaven takes time to
01:50:25 air ate and what is air it’s the spirit
01:50:28 it takes time for to ferment and grow
01:50:31 and into you and then in addition that’s
01:50:33 prophecy
01:50:34 there’s three sections of 2000 years
01:50:38 three times
01:50:39 primarily church has come which is
01:50:42 primarily what that parable is about is
01:50:43 about the church the church has been
01:50:45 here three times
01:50:47 right
01:50:49 and then then we’ll have the kingdom
01:50:52 yep
01:50:54 uh because
01:50:58 section is all about 2 000 years give or
01:51:00 take it’s not exactly right
01:51:02 and of course the kingdom is actually
01:51:05 born
01:51:06 according to revelation according to
01:51:07 joseph smith’s translation
01:51:09 of revelations the kingdom is born from
01:51:11 the church
01:51:13 but it
01:51:14 but yeah church is a rough um
01:51:18 translation because in the book of
01:51:19 mormon it will use church and assembly
01:51:21 interchangeably at times well the the
01:51:23 the the
01:51:25 by church it is by church what i’m
01:51:27 talking about is the people of god oh
01:51:30 sure sure right right
01:51:31 and then
01:51:32 there are in the sense that nephi talks
01:51:35 about church there are sisters
01:51:38 oh yeah yeah i just in general i don’t
01:51:40 like the greek church idea um
01:51:44 i like the hebrew church which is more
01:51:46 assembly and the book of mormon has
01:51:48 places where it uses them
01:51:49 interchangeably
01:51:51 together showing that church is better
01:51:54 translated assembly in my opinion the
01:51:56 book of mormon was translated by
01:51:58 uh gentile
01:52:02 and he used gentile terms because that’s
01:52:04 what he was familiar with
01:52:07 now
01:52:08 and that’s from the the gold plates
01:52:10 title page from the gold plates that’s
01:52:12 not just something that was made up
01:52:13 that’s from the gold plates
01:52:18 and moroni tells us that there be errors
01:52:20 they are the error of man
01:52:23 uh we could get into that
01:52:26 um
01:52:27 uh
01:52:28 anyways uh anyways um because there
01:52:32 there’s more to that and people don’t
01:52:34 keep continue to read that but i don’t
01:52:36 want to get sidetracked on that one
01:52:38 so
01:52:40 that’s a different matter yeah it is
01:52:42 uh because i know people who use that
01:52:45 to claim that they can just say whatever
01:52:47 they want because the book of mormon
01:52:48 prophets don’t know anything and that’s
01:52:50 not what it’s saying but no they always
01:52:54 forget the rest and if they read the
01:52:56 next couple little bit it says if we
01:52:58 written in hebrew there would be no
01:52:59 heirs
01:53:03 so they knew what they were saying the
01:53:04 problem is the reformed egyptian
01:53:07 uh was not the best but it took up less
01:53:09 space
01:53:10 and that’s why they used it um anyways
01:53:13 and
01:53:14 um they have found
01:53:17 things like that
01:53:18 in uh
01:53:20 heartland north of eastern united states
01:53:22 right and actually in israel egypt area
01:53:25 reformed egyptians
01:53:27 among the algonquin people their uh
01:53:29 writing
01:53:31 is very striking resemblance to
01:53:34 um reforming egyptian yeah
01:53:37 um anyways
01:53:39 uh the things that people say we are
01:53:41 crazy for actually things are coming out
01:53:43 and um showing it
01:53:45 um it’s interesting well as long as
01:53:47 you’re not as long as you’re not married
01:53:49 to the mesoamerican model
01:53:51 oh i’m not so like growing up in the
01:53:53 church i liked it and believed that
01:53:55 right but
01:53:56 as soon as someone
01:53:58 uh showed me the heartland model
01:54:02 i was a instant convert it just
01:54:04 completely made sense everything fits
01:54:06 [Music]
01:54:07 in anyways
01:54:11 act of mosiah chapter 16
01:54:15 you will interview
01:54:17 therefore if you teach the law of moses
01:54:19 daily performances and ordinances also
01:54:22 teach that it is a shadow of things
01:54:24 which are to come
01:54:26 oh what
01:54:30 you know look look look how shadow and
01:54:32 you see how this other one where i put
01:54:33 shadow i put to come yeah
01:54:36 mackerel these things
01:54:39 steven’s not making this stuff up sorry
01:54:42 [Laughter]
01:54:44 yes
01:54:46 i understand it can get uh it could get
01:54:49 uh frustrating when a lot of people just
01:54:51 keep looking at you like yeah you know
01:54:53 you’re growing horns or something
01:54:56 well
01:54:57 you should see him in the morning my
01:54:58 hair is like this
01:55:02 but um
01:55:05 i i think a real big sticking i hate the
01:55:07 when i get the worst is when they tell
01:55:09 me but you’re teaching a lower law
01:55:11 oh that’s nowhere in the scriptures
01:55:15 even if it was
01:55:17 don’t get rid of the lower law to keep
01:55:19 the higher law you know who does that
01:55:20 colts
01:55:22 exactly
01:55:25 cults do that
01:55:27 yeah
01:55:28 and this is not a cult
01:55:30 you line upon line upon
01:55:33 not line removed line
01:55:36 line upon line not line removed line
01:55:40 because they’re teaching
01:55:42 line removed line instead of a line of
01:55:45 online and it seems to me from some of
01:55:47 my readings of isaiah that the lord
01:55:49 would prefer for us
01:55:51 to be able to learn faster than simply
01:55:53 lie in a fun life
01:55:55 yes yeah but anyways
01:55:57 mainly what i was trying to say is how
01:55:58 they’re saying line remove line right
01:56:01 yeah
01:56:02 and it’s lying upon on top of an
01:56:06 addition line
01:56:08 and this is this is one of the things
01:56:09 that i tell them you know the
01:56:11 preparatory gospel is absolutely
01:56:13 necessary before you can actually move
01:56:15 up
01:56:17 yeah
01:56:17 you’ve got to honor replicate
01:56:20 alma 12 9-11 my favorite one on that one
01:56:25 no
01:56:26 we can go look at it if you’re not
01:56:27 keeping
01:56:28 here okay we’ll sidetrack on this one a
01:56:30 little bit sorry guys
01:56:32 [Laughter]
01:56:33 i mean there’s other ones that do this
01:56:35 but this is that’s my favorite one on
01:56:37 that subject
01:56:43 okay
01:56:48 okay alma
01:56:51 well or yeah 12 9 through 11.
01:56:55 i’ll read this one it’s my turn to read
01:56:56 for a little bit okay amma began to
01:56:59 expound these things unto him saying it
01:57:01 is given unto many to know the mysteries
01:57:03 of god
01:57:05 nevertheless they are laid understood
01:57:07 command that they should not impart now
01:57:09 this is interesting you know all these
01:57:11 guys that have these mysteries
01:57:13 they go out and part it to everybody
01:57:16 what they don’t do is when i ask them to
01:57:19 expound it from the book of mormon bible
01:57:21 or doctrine and covenants that’s when
01:57:23 they can’t tell me
01:57:25 it doesn’t say don’t expound it
01:57:28 onto people who’ll ask it says don’t
01:57:29 give it unto them
01:57:32 where they’re giving it to them and
01:57:33 won’t expound it does that make sense
01:57:35 yeah
01:57:37 but nevertheless they are laid under a
01:57:38 stroke command that they shall not
01:57:40 impart only according to the portion of
01:57:42 the word only according to the portion
01:57:44 of the word he just grabbed unto the
01:57:45 children of men meaning everyone only
01:57:47 give unto everyone
01:57:50 what god has ordained for everyone
01:57:53 where they go out and tell all these
01:57:55 mysteries that’s not ordained for
01:57:57 everyone
01:57:59 and what they won’t do is expound it to
01:58:01 show it from the scriptures because they
01:58:02 know they can’t
01:58:03 and
01:58:05 it’s really is someone who’s really
01:58:07 schooled knows that what they use to do
01:58:10 in their secret
01:58:11 um forms hidden forms like how the
01:58:15 wicked go in their caves hidden away
01:58:17 from everybody else so do it there but
01:58:19 they won’t do it on the public
01:58:22 yeah so that way they can be um
01:58:24 confounded
01:58:25 with the bible and the book of mormon um
01:58:28 which from
01:58:30 uh second nephi three is one of my
01:58:32 favorite verses um i can show you that
01:58:34 if you want and it’s a chiasm i love
01:58:36 chiasms can you tell
01:58:38 put a lot of time into those well those
01:58:40 those are actually the the chiasm
01:58:44 is the
01:58:46 best
01:58:47 uh uh what chapter is that again three
01:58:49 uh so alma 12 9 through 11.
01:58:52 yeah oh i thought we were going to
01:58:53 second beat by three oh well yeah but i
01:58:56 was talking about the one of uh
01:58:58 confounding so
01:59:00 that’s
01:59:03 many ways give unto everyone what god
01:59:06 ordained to everyone according to the
01:59:08 heed and diligence
01:59:10 and that is the gospel of repentance and
01:59:12 baptism
01:59:14 that is what god is ordained for every
01:59:16 man oh yeah okay yeah yeah okay
01:59:19 which well and then the lord is ordained
01:59:22 to everyone also yeah well yeah the poor
01:59:24 lady but foreign right you can’t read
01:59:28 that’s repetitive if you don’t you can’t
01:59:30 repent if you don’t know what you’re
01:59:31 supposed to repent well we we could go
01:59:33 look at uh second nephi 2 and alma
01:59:37 42 where they talk about if there is no
01:59:39 law you cannot repent and if
01:59:41 there’s no law anyways i mean
01:59:44 it’s both in those chapters no law
01:59:46 no sin no repentance
01:59:49 and these guys
01:59:51 don’t know what the law is
01:59:53 yeah
01:59:54 so what’s how do you repent if you don’t
01:59:56 have a law
01:59:57 anyways
01:59:58 that that’s always my or you know
02:00:01 a lot of christians will say well christ
02:00:03 uh
02:00:04 you know nailed the law to the cross i’m
02:00:06 like so why do you need a messiah if
02:00:08 there is no law because that means you
02:00:10 did not sin which means you don’t need
02:00:11 no you don’t need a messiah so why do
02:00:13 you need your mother which means nothing
02:00:15 should have been nailed to the cross
02:00:16 anyway yeah but i mean after that i’m
02:00:19 just going off of how they say it was
02:00:21 nailed across so now it’s it’s you know
02:00:23 no longer needed it i mean there is no
02:00:25 law now so i asked him why do you need a
02:00:26 messiah then
02:00:28 yeah if you don’t sin you don’t need a
02:00:31 messiah
02:00:32 yeah i be christian
02:00:34 [Laughter]
02:00:36 i i don’t call my christian i call
02:00:38 myself a nazarene yeah there you go
02:00:41 and i do it on purpose if you go study
02:00:43 nazarenes they kept torah
02:00:45 and stop doing the daily performances
02:00:47 and ordinances
02:00:49 yeah which is what we’re just going over
02:00:51 right here that’s what the nazarenes did
02:00:53 and it’s actually it doesn’t it does
02:00:56 that actually correlate with um
02:01:00 does that actually correlate with the uh
02:01:03 those called prophets in the old
02:01:05 testament you saw
02:01:08 the children of the prophets who
02:01:11 sat at the feet of
02:01:12 enlighten elijah and elisha and learned
02:01:15 from them and such like that um
02:01:18 i i don’t
02:01:19 know about that
02:01:21 um
02:01:22 nazarene somewhat comes from where you
02:01:25 know jesus lived but it’s also written
02:01:27 in the stars also
02:01:29 um the mazeroth do you know you may want
02:01:31 to
02:01:33 i’ll take a look
02:01:34 i’ll give you my resource for this
02:01:37 constellations
02:01:39 um
02:01:40 but the maseratis constellations
02:01:43 uncorrupted by
02:01:44 uh egypt and greece uh actually teach
02:01:47 the gospel
02:01:50 that’s really cool yeah and there’s
02:01:52 prophecy actually and this is in one of
02:01:54 my posts that need that i need to finish
02:01:56 and again for science right now
02:02:01 but
02:02:02 there’s a prophecy that jesus should be
02:02:04 called the nazarene
02:02:05 right i believe that’s what it is or
02:02:07 come from nazareth there’s something to
02:02:09 that effect that’s nowhere in the tanakh
02:02:12 but it is in the mazerath
02:02:15 that’s pretty cool so people who claim
02:02:19 you can only have the bible
02:02:21 there’s a problem for them
02:02:23 they cannot get that prophecy
02:02:26 in
02:02:26 the bible
02:02:28 yeah it’s nowhere
02:02:30 and experts who are honest admit that
02:02:32 and i have links to it in my uh coming
02:02:34 post
02:02:36 but it’s not there
02:02:38 it’s in the stars
02:02:42 that’s pretty cool
02:02:43 well so it goes against the closed canon
02:02:46 um which
02:02:48 actually the closed canon
02:02:51 argument
02:02:52 started when the protestants were going
02:02:55 against the catholics and the
02:02:56 protestants didn’t like the catholics
02:02:59 traditions that they’re marrying from
02:03:01 the pagans honest honest
02:03:04 understandably right
02:03:06 right but their way of combating it was
02:03:08 bad
02:03:09 they said the cannon was closed to help
02:03:11 combat
02:03:12 uh to go against the catholic church
02:03:16 uh adopting pagan traditions
02:03:19 that was not the way to go about it the
02:03:21 way about it was
02:03:22 that’s a knock
02:03:24 to because the tanakh teaches against
02:03:26 those pagan traditions but the problem
02:03:28 is
02:03:29 um
02:03:30 there was the protestants were still
02:03:34 infiltrated with a lot of false ideas
02:03:36 even in constantine constantine’s creed
02:03:38 states that you shall not do anything
02:03:40 like the jews their sabbaths or their
02:03:42 high holidays and so the protestants
02:03:44 still had in their head
02:03:46 that the tanakh was not for them and so
02:03:48 instead of going to the knock for the
02:03:50 answer which had it for that problem
02:03:53 yeah they came up with a bad argument
02:03:56 closed cannon
02:03:58 yeah which makes no sense even within
02:04:01 the even within their closed cap
02:04:03 right because um martin luther said
02:04:06 things that weren’t there and they
02:04:07 accepted it which shows not closed
02:04:09 cannon but
02:04:11 but they had to but they needed it for
02:04:14 the arguments against the catholics and
02:04:16 i anyways
02:04:18 yeah so when i yeah so yeah like i said
02:04:20 when i laugh sometimes it’s just
02:04:24 they’re
02:04:24 it’s a double standard they don’t apply
02:04:26 their own
02:04:27 logic to themselves
02:04:32 they only use it
02:04:34 they only use it when it’s convenient to
02:04:36 try to win an argument
02:04:38 yeah exactly
02:04:40 um
02:04:41 anyways
02:04:42 but i don’t believe in closed cannon in
02:04:44 fact
02:04:45 uh the two prophets and revelations are
02:04:47 going to prophesy
02:04:49 for three and a half years if i remember
02:04:51 correctly right yes
02:04:52 um
02:04:54 yeah what are they gonna do just keep
02:04:56 reading the bible every day no
02:04:57 [Music]
02:04:59 they’re gonna be given new stuff i mean
02:05:01 they’ll be giving some old stuff and
02:05:02 some new stuff and expounding what we
02:05:05 don’t currently understand
02:05:07 is there
02:05:09 anyways
02:05:10 um
02:05:11 people don’t like that argument
02:05:13 on the closed canon because that to me
02:05:15 also shows it’s not a closed cannon
02:05:18 yeah
02:05:19 and in fact even god says he hasn’t
02:05:20 given everything out in fact he says he
02:05:23 hides things
02:05:24 and but he also says he wants us to seek
02:05:26 it out
02:05:27 which
02:05:29 to me goes against close canon
02:05:32 yeah um but anyways
02:05:34 fact the martial world uh word of
02:05:37 prophecy right which you’re supposed to
02:05:39 go get
02:05:40 that show’s not closed cannon you can’t
02:05:42 get that with close cannon
02:05:44 that’s god speaking to you personally
02:05:46 and if it was closed you can’t do that
02:05:48 because closed captioning can’t speak
02:05:51 but that’s not going to happen until you
02:05:54 until you’re
02:05:55 until your heart is broken enough to be
02:05:57 able to honor torah oh yeah yeah it’s it
02:06:00 doesn’t happen after baptism um it’s a
02:06:04 it’s a
02:06:06 can you continue a process
02:06:08 uh yahweh right anyways
02:06:11 um so
02:06:12 firsthand
02:06:14 therefore he that will harden his heart
02:06:17 the same receiveth the lesser portion of
02:06:19 the word meaning harden his heart means
02:06:21 you’re not accepting god’s truth right
02:06:25 the same received the lesser portion of
02:06:26 the word and he that will not
02:06:29 harden his heart to him is given the
02:06:30 greater portion of the word you get more
02:06:32 in fact um
02:06:34 i talk about in the catch understand
02:06:36 post i don’t know if i shared that
02:06:37 earlier but that’s a big part of that
02:06:39 um
02:06:41 i think it’s in the chat which i’m going
02:06:42 to save before i even uh okay anyways
02:06:46 until it is given unto him to know them
02:06:49 know the mysteries of god until he know
02:06:51 them in full
02:06:53 um so
02:06:54 that will take a very long time
02:06:58 um in fact after the resurrection but
02:07:01 anyway
02:07:02 eleven and now
02:07:04 they that will harden their hearts now
02:07:05 this is the part i was bringing out to
02:07:07 them is given the lesser portion of the
02:07:08 word until they know nothing concerning
02:07:11 his mysteries and these people who claim
02:07:13 mysteries actually know nothing
02:07:16 and
02:07:16 i anyways
02:07:19 and
02:07:20 then they are taken captive by the devil
02:07:23 led by him down to destruction this is
02:07:25 what meant by the chains of hell they’re
02:07:28 bound to satan
02:07:31 and they know nothing because they’re
02:07:33 not
02:07:34 keeping
02:07:35 the law
02:07:36 the lesser portion
02:07:39 because the law is the milk in fact
02:07:42 in one of these uh passages we’ve read
02:07:44 um
02:07:46 i think it’s nephi states that he spoke
02:07:48 plainly that’s a hebrew idiom that i can
02:07:50 show from the book of mormon that means
02:07:52 speaking by the law
02:07:56 plainly is a hebrew idiom for law and
02:08:00 the book of mormon shows that
02:08:02 cool
02:08:04 um
02:08:06 i don’t want to slide track it’s on us
02:08:07 too much
02:08:10 um but
02:08:11 the performance states that speaking
02:08:14 plainly is by speaking by the law and
02:08:17 they reject that
02:08:21 um so anyways
02:08:23 uh
02:08:24 they harden get the lesser portion till
02:08:26 they have none
02:08:28 and then they’re taken down by the devil
02:08:30 just like i said i mean i said it’s
02:08:32 slightly different but same
02:08:35 thing
02:08:38 so
02:08:39 that’s my favorite one on that but
02:08:40 there’s others like it
02:08:42 oh yeah that’s a that’s a that’s a
02:08:45 really powerful
02:08:46 that’s a really powerful thing about
02:08:49 things beyond what
02:08:50 beyond what you’re capable of beyond
02:08:52 what you’re willing to live
02:08:54 very uh
02:08:57 um
02:08:58 there’s one guy
02:09:01 oh his i i bought his book about the
02:09:04 second comforter but i didn’t read it
02:09:06 all because he was starting to talk
02:09:07 about how you need to
02:09:09 um
02:09:13 he doesn’t say it this way
02:09:15 but it’s basically saying you need to uh
02:09:18 play with devils
02:09:21 in it and so i stopped reading basically
02:09:23 the idea of conjuring up god
02:09:26 uh well he goes them all along the lines
02:09:28 of you have to see if you can defeat the
02:09:30 devils
02:09:33 but yeah without christ you can’t do
02:09:35 that they have more knowledge than we do
02:09:37 and thus more power
02:09:39 yeah um and so
02:09:41 our power against the devil is found in
02:09:43 our obedience to the law
02:09:46 yes
02:09:46 correct
02:09:47 uh in fact i can show you a good one on
02:09:50 that
02:09:51 a real good one
02:09:53 um but before i show that one
02:09:56 lectures on faith
02:09:59 lecture six i believe near the end
02:10:01 states that you
02:10:04 have no power over the devils and
02:10:07 till
02:10:08 you have seen christ
02:10:10 like face to face where this guy is
02:10:12 saying
02:10:13 before you can see christ you have to
02:10:15 try to control the devils but lectures
02:10:17 on faith from joseph smith from the dnc
02:10:20 until 1920
02:10:22 states that
02:10:24 you don’t have that power until after
02:10:25 you see christ
02:10:27 a direct contradiction no wonder these
02:10:29 people don’t like lectures on faith
02:10:32 it felt yeah
02:10:34 but because
02:10:36 here’s a good one
02:10:38 yeah the lectures on faith are
02:10:40 uh
02:10:41 are a sure foundation for true belief
02:10:44 and
02:10:45 are a pretty sure foundation for true
02:10:46 belief in god in the nation
02:10:49 um
02:10:50 and there’s multiple reasons why the
02:10:51 elders church and our lds church took it
02:10:54 out because it contradicts what they
02:10:55 teach on so many points
02:10:58 yeah more than just the holy ghost and
02:11:00 many more
02:11:02 that’s just the one most people know
02:11:03 because they don’t really study it
02:11:05 um but there’s a ton anyways
02:11:08 so about miracles and the power so um we
02:11:11 could look oh this is a big subject so
02:11:14 there’s power in the word
02:11:17 meaning the plan and there’s power in
02:11:19 the holy ghost there it’s the same but
02:11:22 anyways so performance miracles are our
02:11:26 power we must be forgiven our sins to
02:11:28 perform a miracle uh 38581 now it came
02:11:32 to pass that according to our record we
02:11:34 know our record to be true oh it what is
02:11:37 it true
02:11:38 honest correct for behold it was a just
02:11:41 man who kept the record for he truly
02:11:45 did many miracles in the name
02:11:48 authority
02:11:49 of yeshua
02:11:51 and
02:11:52 now this is why they’re saying they know
02:11:54 that he was a follower jesus
02:11:56 so this is a cause
02:11:59 or this was the effect and then here’s
02:12:02 the cause okay
02:12:03 therefore
02:12:04 was not any man who could do a miracle
02:12:07 and the authority of yeshua saved he
02:12:10 were cleansed every wit from his
02:12:12 iniquity
02:12:14 right
02:12:15 this way you don’t see it in the church
02:12:21 but
02:12:22 they’re not teaching people how to not
02:12:24 sin really i mean
02:12:27 the things that they crave
02:12:30 they’re teaching people a gospel of
02:12:32 performance
02:12:34 yeah and they’re also teaching the
02:12:36 prosperity gospel also
02:12:38 yeah
02:12:39 in fact
02:12:40 um before i woke up i liked hugh nibley
02:12:43 and he had a a really long talk on that
02:12:46 um
02:12:47 that i bought from farms
02:12:50 and i actually kind of thought it was
02:12:51 possibly true
02:12:53 but now that i’m awake it is so not true
02:12:57 i mean even first half of jacob too
02:12:59 alone goes against that idea among many
02:13:02 others but
02:13:04 the prosperity gospel is not in torah as
02:13:07 jews and some elderlies including
02:13:11 um humanity what is
02:13:13 what is promised is
02:13:16 what is promised is there’s a certain uh
02:13:19 certain level of prosperity yeah
02:13:22 prosperity but that’s different than the
02:13:24 prosperity gospel because you’re right i
02:13:26 mean they have a
02:13:28 it’s a different word but there are
02:13:29 different completely different teachings
02:13:32 yeah but anyways
02:13:34 but
02:13:35 so
02:13:36 the cause there was no man who could do
02:13:38 a miracle and the authority of yeshua
02:13:40 was safe he would cleanse every wet from
02:13:42 his iniquity
02:13:43 sinless
02:13:45 meaning you’re keeping the law
02:13:48 yeah
02:13:48 and now some people
02:13:50 meaning you’re walking in torah
02:13:52 no man can do a miracle unless you’re
02:13:54 walking in tomorrow yeah because torah
02:13:57 is the law i mean i in the in
02:14:00 in the book of mormon and new testament
02:14:02 states that transgression sin is
02:14:05 breaking of torah
02:14:07 yeah it hasn’t changed that’s new
02:14:09 testament
02:14:10 in the letters after christ’s death and
02:14:12 resurrection
02:14:13 right
02:14:14 and dnc no man is possessed with all
02:14:17 things except he be purified and
02:14:19 cleansed for all
02:14:20 sin
02:14:21 what
02:14:22 you mean we can’t be saved in my sin
02:14:26 oh surprise for us oh it’s only from our
02:14:29 sin
02:14:30 there’s a big difference
02:14:33 and that’s actually gone into in the
02:14:35 book of mormon too oh yeah i was
02:14:37 referring to that and it’s it’s also
02:14:39 sermon on the mount it’s all over the
02:14:41 place
02:14:43 it’s in the sermon in the mouth right
02:14:45 yeah
02:14:46 the pinnacle teaching of christ
02:14:50 it’s actually teaching us how to keep
02:14:51 torah
02:14:52 yeah
02:14:54 anyways and if you are purified and
02:14:57 cleansed from all sin you shall ask
02:15:00 whatsoever be willing authority of
02:15:01 yeshua and it shall be done
02:15:05 purified and cleansed from all sin it is
02:15:08 possible
02:15:10 and joseph smith
02:15:12 take this you know people in the church
02:15:14 will say well just repent every day
02:15:16 right
02:15:19 uh let me find it
02:15:22 are you talking about that one where
02:15:24 jesus oh yeah here we go oh yeah repent
02:15:26 is a thing that cannot be trifled with
02:15:29 every day awake
02:15:31 repentance is a thing that cannot be
02:15:33 trifled with every day so don’t say that
02:15:35 again
02:15:37 repentance is a thing that cannot be
02:15:39 trifled with every day daily
02:15:41 transgression and daily repentance wait
02:15:44 daily transgression and daily repentance
02:15:46 is not which is pleasing in the sight of
02:15:48 god joseph smith
02:15:53 don’t keep sinning
02:15:55 that’s right
02:15:58 you gotta you gotta you gotta walk in
02:16:00 the way when you finally you’ve made a
02:16:02 mistake you’ve gotta turn from the
02:16:03 mistake
02:16:04 yeah
02:16:05 very good completely different than
02:16:07 what’s being
02:16:08 taught pretty much everything is
02:16:09 completely different from what’s being
02:16:11 banned about it’s like everybody wants
02:16:13 to believe
02:16:14 that you can
02:16:16 everybody wants to believe that we can
02:16:17 build zion in our sins
02:16:20 yeah we we can’t and i mean on that part
02:16:23 in our own modern scriptures it says
02:16:26 zion is where there’s no poor
02:16:28 and here’s this
02:16:30 richest church
02:16:32 on earth except maybe the catholic
02:16:34 church
02:16:35 yeah robbing from the poor first
02:16:38 asking for tithing those who can’t
02:16:40 afford it i don’t know if you’ve looked
02:16:42 into tithing but it’s surplus meaning
02:16:44 after your
02:16:45 necessity bills are paid
02:16:48 and then on top of that
02:16:50 most of tithing is to take care of the
02:16:52 poor and they’re not giving it to the
02:16:53 poor what are they doing with it they’re
02:16:54 investing into babylon with it
02:16:57 yeah
02:16:58 less than one percent goes to the poor
02:17:01 yeah
02:17:02 which is breaking the law
02:17:03 but they’ll just pay some of the
02:17:05 government and it’ll be all forgotten
02:17:08 and they talk about keeping the law and
02:17:10 they don’t they’re
02:17:12 they’re talking out with
02:17:13 their lips
02:17:15 they are
02:17:16 jesuits
02:17:18 yes
02:17:19 or at least controlled by them
02:17:21 they are their practice is that of
02:17:24 jesuits they say something
02:17:27 they say something out loud that is not
02:17:30 true of what they do and then under
02:17:32 their breasts they say something under
02:17:34 their breasts or in their minds they’re
02:17:35 saying things
02:17:37 yeah
02:17:38 their lips are close to me but their
02:17:40 hearts are far from me exactly yeah uh
02:17:45 and nelson
02:17:46 it’s a jesuit practice it’s part of
02:17:50 which is also what lying for the lord
02:17:52 falls under that they do on a regular
02:17:54 basis yes uh and wait a minute let me
02:17:57 see what uh
02:17:59 commit what the scriptures say about
02:18:00 lying um because i i don’t know i i need
02:18:03 to double check
02:18:05 yeah
02:18:06 whoa under the liar oh wait a minute i
02:18:07 didn’t understand that whoa
02:18:11 repeat that again
02:18:12 hold on to the liar oh wait here another
02:18:15 one
02:18:18 that they should take
02:18:19 not the name of the lord their god in
02:18:21 vain oh wait i did the wrong and they
02:18:23 should not lie oh wait a minute i didn’t
02:18:24 understand that they should not lie wait
02:18:26 i didn’t understand for none of these
02:18:27 inquiries iniquities are from the lord
02:18:30 oh wait it’s in torah too oh my lips are
02:18:32 in a what abomination oh that’s pretty
02:18:35 bad
02:18:36 oh
02:18:36 shoot proverbs
02:18:39 lying lips are an abomination to yahweh
02:18:42 he’s sick they feel trustworthy are his
02:18:44 delight
02:18:45 these six things that the lord hate
02:18:50 he that at the seat oh wait what is the
02:18:52 lie i forgot is it to see
02:18:57 i know he’ll not dwell well this is my
02:19:00 house so what did i talk about authority
02:19:02 and house how they go together oh wait a
02:19:04 minute i
02:19:06 maybe i’m connecting things that are
02:19:07 actually connected that that worketh lie
02:19:10 shall not dwell within my house oh wait
02:19:13 if it’s not his house with all the rooms
02:19:15 and mansions where is it oh yeah it’s
02:19:17 hell oh wait isn’t that where we’re
02:19:19 thrust to for he shall be thrust
02:19:22 to hell down to hell yes holy mackerel
02:19:25 this thing states the same thing i i
02:19:27 don’t understand it though
02:19:30 oh my goodness you mean all the
02:19:31 scriptures work together
02:19:33 what you mean we’re supposed to confound
02:19:35 oh wait yeah let’s go get the confound
02:19:37 one because it goes like this wait we’re
02:19:38 supposed to compound of false doctrines
02:19:40 with the book of mormon and the bible
02:19:44 oh and look the loins of judah we’re
02:19:46 supposed to compound with in the loins
02:19:48 of a nephi or lee heights the book of
02:19:50 mormon we’re supposed to compound things
02:19:51 with that and not false sayings of
02:19:55 prophets that confound other prophets
02:19:57 from from their own church
02:19:58 that doubt oh you know you know it’s
02:20:00 ironic they say doubt your doubts
02:20:04 but hell those leaders they doubt
02:20:06 they’re
02:20:07 the teachings of previous leaders what
02:20:08 they’re trying to teach people not to do
02:20:10 with them but they do it themselves
02:20:12 they’re hypocrites
02:20:14 yeah they are
02:20:16 neither shall they and
02:20:19 neither shall they enter in but they
02:20:20 also make sure that nobody else
02:20:22 understands
02:20:24 yeah
02:20:24 we’re just like the characters
02:20:27 wherefore thy
02:20:29 loins shall write book of mormon and the
02:20:30 fruit of the lines of judah shall write
02:20:32 bible a b and which ye shall be written
02:20:35 by the fruit of thy loins come over and
02:20:37 also that was written by the fruit of
02:20:38 the longings of judah bible
02:20:41 and shall grow together onto the what
02:20:44 wait
02:20:45 some are confound false doctrines
02:20:49 laying down of contention oh wait so
02:20:52 getting rid of faults doctrines laying
02:20:55 down of contentions what’s contentious
02:20:57 false doctrines
02:21:00 that’s where the contention is that’s
02:21:02 really interesting
02:21:04 right right there one of my favorite
02:21:06 verses from childhood
02:21:08 unto the confounding of false structures
02:21:10 laying down of contentions what is
02:21:12 contentions false teachings
02:21:14 right there
02:21:20 you know what i just noticed that as we
02:21:22 were talking because we probably because
02:21:23 we were talking about it earlier it was
02:21:25 on my mind i read that and made the
02:21:27 connection
02:21:29 and establishing peace among the fruit
02:21:31 of thy minds and establishing where’s
02:21:33 pete and i told you this earlier where
02:21:35 does peace come from
02:21:37 the truth
02:21:38 yep establishment we’re getting rid of
02:21:41 false doctrines think it’s correct
02:21:42 doctrines which gives us
02:21:44 the ability to have peace because it’s
02:21:46 by keeping his law
02:21:49 his true doctrines is what gives us
02:21:51 peace it’s not false ones or sinning
02:21:54 even if we call it soon it’s still the
02:21:56 thing is and the thing is the torah is
02:21:59 our ketubah
02:22:00 it’s our wedding agreement yes it is
02:22:03 it’s our covenant now here on that here
02:22:05 this will blow your mind okay
02:22:08 so torah is
02:22:10 their constitution right is a way that
02:22:12 some people their agreement their
02:22:14 covenant
02:22:15 guess what
02:22:17 most
02:22:18 countries in the world that have a
02:22:19 constitution guess what time it was
02:22:21 around
02:22:23 around pentecost
02:22:25 wow
02:22:27 the united states is that way i mean
02:22:28 it’s all there’s the issue of the the
02:22:30 unsynced calendars like the gorian and
02:22:32 the hebrew one
02:22:34 but it’s within the same general time
02:22:36 range of when
02:22:39 torah was given
02:22:42 constitution was given around the time
02:22:44 of pentecost
02:22:48 the argentine one so the ones that i
02:22:49 know the most because i um yeah i i’m in
02:22:52 argentina right now my wife’s argentine
02:22:54 but the argentine one is around that
02:22:57 same time
02:22:58 a lot of them in south america is around
02:23:00 that time i mean i don’t know the whole
02:23:02 world but the ones that i’ve looked at
02:23:05 they’re around that time around the time
02:23:06 of pentecost not exactly but
02:23:09 give or take
02:23:10 following that pattern
02:23:12 anyways that is really cool actually now
02:23:15 i really hope the tidbit of knowledge
02:23:18 well that’s from reading the scriptures
02:23:20 and thinking and pondering
02:23:23 it’s it’s because i’m not coming up with
02:23:25 pretend mysteries
02:23:29 yeah sorry i shouldn’t rag on people but
02:23:31 sometimes it’s kind of fun
02:23:34 well
02:23:35 especially especially
02:23:38 yeah we can get
02:23:39 and we can get it we can get into that
02:23:41 kind of thing where we’re feeling
02:23:43 we’re feeling good because we need to be
02:23:47 careful so like yeah okay let’s that’s
02:23:49 right
02:23:50 confounding of false doctrines to get
02:23:52 rid of the contentions but at the same
02:23:55 time we need to be careful how we do it
02:23:57 and making fun might not be the best but
02:23:59 we’re kind of on the same plane so
02:24:02 yeah but this is recorded so maybe we
02:24:04 should but i’m still gonna do it a
02:24:06 little bit but i’ll try to
02:24:08 keep not make it too bad because i mean
02:24:10 i still have
02:24:12 um i’m still have the arm of flesh i’m
02:24:14 not anyways yeah
02:24:17 we we all have ways we all have ways
02:24:19 that we can
02:24:21 improve well
02:24:24 there is good to laughter but you also
02:24:26 need to be careful with it right because
02:24:27 you can use it also you can get to the
02:24:29 point where you’re making light of
02:24:31 sacred things yeah and i
02:24:33 i’m i’m not doing that because i’m
02:24:35 making fun of unsafe mistakes yeah well
02:24:37 you’re making
02:24:39 you’re making you’re making fun of the
02:24:40 profane yeah yeah
02:24:43 making fun of the profane uh substitutes
02:24:48 for that which is sacred and true so now
02:24:51 get this okay you’ll love this laying
02:24:53 down of false contentions goes around
02:24:55 bringing them to the knowledge of their
02:24:57 fathers in the latter days what did the
02:24:58 fathers have
02:25:00 torah
02:25:01 yeah what lays down uh intentions
02:25:04 and goes back to turning the hearts the
02:25:06 children to the promises yeah and it’s
02:25:08 torah that lays down
02:25:10 false contentions which bible and book
02:25:12 of mormon teaches
02:25:15 even after the resurrection
02:25:17 when you have the eyes to see and ears
02:25:19 to hear
02:25:22 and also to the knowledge of my
02:25:24 covenants oh wait a minute
02:25:26 confounding false doctrines is the
02:25:28 covenants what’s the covenant oh the
02:25:30 book of mormon is the renewed covenant
02:25:33 which actually
02:25:34 renews torah
02:25:37 yeah there was no scribal there
02:25:39 yeah there
02:25:41 there was no bible error in doctrine
02:25:42 covenants section 84. the book of mormon
02:25:45 is
02:25:48 yeah it’s the
02:25:49 better word
02:25:51 new can and does mean renew in today’s
02:25:54 language a better way putting is renewed
02:25:56 covenant
02:25:58 yeah is it’s not new
02:26:00 well yeah uh you know it’s kind of like
02:26:03 doctrine and covenant section 22 which
02:26:05 is one of those sections that people
02:26:07 always cite to say that all the old
02:26:09 covenants are all done away they’re gone
02:26:13 dnc is not my strong point
02:26:16 i i actually
02:26:17 that’s that’s one of the advantages of
02:26:19 coming
02:26:20 out of having come
02:26:24 here from that spot i can actually show
02:26:27 you
02:26:28 um i’ll get it up i mean i i believe in
02:26:31 most of the dnc there’s a few sections i
02:26:33 don’t um
02:26:34 but the doctrine of covenant section 22
02:26:37 um
02:26:40 is it it’s really only four verses so
02:26:42 i’ll just read it
02:26:44 behold i say unto you that all old
02:26:46 covenants have i caused to be done away
02:26:48 in this thing and this is a new and an
02:26:50 everlasting covenant even that which was
02:26:53 from the beginning and people take this
02:26:55 scripture and they rest it to say that
02:26:58 all covenants are done away but
02:27:01 they forget that last line
02:27:05 even that which was from the beginning
02:27:08 wherefore although a man should be
02:27:10 baptized guess what beginning means
02:27:12 this is one where it shows torah was
02:27:14 adam the beginning
02:27:17 what is the beginning that’s adam and
02:27:18 eve
02:27:19 yep exactly
02:27:22 and that wherefore although a man should
02:27:24 be baptized in 100 times and avail with
02:27:26 him nothing for you cannot enter in at
02:27:27 the straight gate by the law of moses
02:27:30 so either by your dead works which is a
02:27:33 lot like what we were just going off of
02:27:35 today in fact also baptized 100 times
02:27:38 that’s re-baptism
02:27:39 that’s teaching re-baptism
02:27:42 yep
02:27:43 for it is because of your dead works
02:27:45 that i have caused this last covenant
02:27:46 and this church to be built upon to me
02:27:48 even as in days of old wherefore enter
02:27:51 ye in at the gate
02:27:54 and that’s actually torah that’s
02:27:55 actually torah wording yeah there it is
02:27:58 and i i would uh
02:28:01 restate last comment last time i will
02:28:03 renew the covenant
02:28:05 yeah
02:28:07 because there’s only one covenant like
02:28:08 you just said up here right it’s just
02:28:10 the wording’s
02:28:12 a little tricky sometimes with our
02:28:14 hellenistic minds here
02:28:16 right yeah because we’re from
02:28:17 hellenistic greek
02:28:19 in fact
02:28:20 well i
02:28:21 i have i have the uh i have i do have
02:28:25 the event have some somewhat of an
02:28:27 advantage in that i have family
02:28:29 that are jewish i am a descendant i am a
02:28:32 descendant of king david
02:28:34 uh i don’t have that advantage i i’ve
02:28:36 had to
02:28:38 so i worked my way through this years
02:28:41 when i first started
02:28:43 my mind works like a jew
02:28:46 uh my mind’s starting to um i wouldn’t
02:28:50 say completely but
02:28:52 but even then i have to overcome my i
02:28:54 have to overcome my protestant
02:28:56 upbringing as i’m not sure going to the
02:28:58 scriptures
02:28:59 um
02:29:01 in my mind
02:29:02 but but i find that my mind gravitates
02:29:05 easily to
02:29:06 um gravitates fairly easily to the law
02:29:10 and the understanding of torah um
02:29:14 where
02:29:15 the thing is is
02:29:17 the thing is is finding time when you’re
02:29:19 home
02:29:19 when you’re homeschooling and you’re
02:29:21 working from home and you’re having to
02:29:22 do all these things oh yeah i i i don’t
02:29:26 get to just read as often as i i want to
02:29:29 but i when i’m not reading i’m listening
02:29:31 to commentaries from others on a regular
02:29:33 basis
02:29:34 yeah
02:29:34 so it depends on what i’m doing because
02:29:36 if i’m doing something really
02:29:38 complicated for work i can’t and so i
02:29:40 have to stop it but when i’m just doing
02:29:42 easy breezy stuff right i could do with
02:29:44 my hands tied behind my back and i’ll
02:29:46 type with my nose
02:29:48 because
02:29:59 again the reference to torah and seek
02:30:02 not to counsel your god
02:30:04 yeah
02:30:04 [Music]
02:30:06 that was the cause of the condemnation
02:30:11 that the church sought that’s even
02:30:13 referenced that
02:30:14 in the call and telling him
02:30:17 about that combination it references
02:30:19 those types of things
02:30:21 yeah
02:30:23 um so
02:30:25 and then the and in section 59 the
02:30:26 revelation on the sabbath day
02:30:29 again
02:30:30 don’t counsel your god right it
02:30:33 and we i’d have to read again but it’s
02:30:35 basically not time now one thing i find
02:30:37 interesting
02:30:38 joseph smith didn’t just say something
02:30:40 he just kind of kept doing what he was
02:30:41 doing because god didn’t really tell him
02:30:43 what to do we’re day advents say the
02:30:46 seventh saturday
02:30:48 and that’s completely wrong in fact here
02:30:50 i’ll here’s something gary would know a
02:30:52 lot on right gary
02:30:55 um just bringing him in a little bit
02:30:57 saturday used to be the first day of the
02:30:59 week
02:31:01 i’ll show you
02:31:02 i have a couple pictures on that
02:31:06 oh let me go here let me get to the
02:31:08 right spot
02:31:15 um
02:31:18 so the seven so the seven days are based
02:31:20 on moon cycles kind of yeah well i can
02:31:23 get more into that but let me show you
02:31:24 this the little so i’ve learned a lot of
02:31:27 um calendar history because of my um
02:31:32 lunar calendar um belief or lunar
02:31:34 sabbath i’ve
02:31:36 i wanted to be sure
02:31:39 and so i’ve done a lot of research
02:31:41 and um
02:31:44 there’s a lot of history that’s
02:31:45 forgotten that makes people think that
02:31:46 what they’re doing is correct and
02:31:49 let me show you one
02:31:50 that’s forgotten that is well documented
02:31:53 when you get into it and i’ll give you
02:31:54 my resource page on that real quick
02:31:57 um that gets into a lot of these details
02:32:00 it doesn’t get into all of them but it
02:32:01 gets into a lot of them calendar changes
02:32:04 the calendar has changed in fact satan’s
02:32:07 goal is to change the times calendar and
02:32:11 seasons moa deem appointed times when
02:32:13 you do things and he’s done that
02:32:16 um so here let me show this screen or
02:32:19 this picture
02:32:22 and i have another one that’s along
02:32:23 these lines
02:32:25 you see that sickle
02:32:26 on the first
02:32:28 that’s saturday
02:32:30 see the rays coming off the head yes
02:32:33 sunday
02:32:35 i don’t have all these memorized um but
02:32:37 they they follow the same orders today
02:32:40 and the crescendo and the crash the
02:32:42 horns off the head crescent
02:32:44 moon that’s monday because it’s the the
02:32:47 crescents have to do with the crescent
02:32:49 on the moon
02:32:51 it’s like i said moon
02:32:58 islam
02:32:59 god is the moon goddess
02:33:02 yeah which is funny because they worship
02:33:04 on friday
02:33:05 and i forget what friday’s based off of
02:33:08 but they they do it on friday which
02:33:10 actually on the
02:33:12 calendar that most of the world uses
02:33:14 today
02:33:15 friday used to be the seventh day
02:33:18 yeah
02:33:19 but
02:33:20 uh constatine
02:33:22 demoted saturday or saturn
02:33:26 day
02:33:27 which is
02:33:30 yeah yeah it’s actually sat satan’s day
02:33:34 um was demoted to the last
02:33:37 and constantine’s favorite
02:33:39 um false god was promoted to the first
02:33:42 sundance well because he believed
02:33:43 himself to be that sun god incarnate oh
02:33:45 yeah he has a big statue in rome that’s
02:33:48 still there that shows that that he
02:33:49 thought he was incarnated
02:33:51 he he did not convert to christianity
02:33:54 um he was how he converted christianity
02:33:56 to pagans
02:33:57 yeah
02:33:58 yes
02:33:59 and history shows that through and
02:34:01 through
02:34:03 but if you’re a christian you want to
02:34:04 ignore that
02:34:06 because you just want
02:34:07 your ears tickled
02:34:10 but a lot of that has
02:34:12 hits lots of things so
02:34:15 there’s a book i like pagan christianity
02:34:17 that talks about how
02:34:19 when a preacher just sits up there and
02:34:20 preaches and you just sit there and
02:34:22 listen which happens pretty much in
02:34:24 every christian church and catholic
02:34:26 church and jewish church
02:34:28 that’s from paganism i mean it’s even
02:34:30 the one that we grew up in the lds
02:34:32 church right
02:34:33 yeah
02:34:34 uh that’s from paganism
02:34:36 where
02:34:37 i go by moroni 6 9
02:34:40 by the spirit what people need and want
02:34:42 to talk about
02:34:45 which is what we’ve been doing here for
02:34:46 the most part right
02:34:48 yeah
02:34:50 anyways
02:34:51 saturday used to be the first day
02:34:55 sunday was the second
02:34:57 moon day or monday the third and i don’t
02:35:00 have all these memorized but anyways i
02:35:01 have another picture that shows that too
02:35:03 let me get it
02:35:06 um
02:35:08 here we go there it is
02:35:15 you see that oh let’s make it bigger
02:35:18 oh
02:35:19 yeah
02:35:21 that’s from archaeology
02:35:24 oh wait
02:35:26 saturday first what
02:35:28 sunday second what monday luna
02:35:32 anyways these ones have the names which
02:35:33 makes it a little easier fairness oh
02:35:36 that’s friday venus venus
02:35:38 um goddess of the goddess of love
02:35:42 uh no goddess of adultery
02:35:45 exactly
02:35:47 you know she’s she’s at the veil in the
02:35:49 salt lake temple
02:35:54 she’s above it and that’s not by
02:35:55 accident
02:35:57 yeah that’s what brigham young dead
02:35:59 right
02:36:00 anyways um
02:36:02 [Music]
02:36:04 there’s official church pictures that
02:36:06 shows it i’m not making this stuff up
02:36:09 it even has
02:36:11 the
02:36:12 shell
02:36:14 and the two angels that are with her all
02:36:16 the time too
02:36:17 wow
02:36:18 yeah
02:36:19 well that anyways
02:36:22 it’s interesting
02:36:24 um
02:36:25 connections connections connections okay
02:36:28 so anyways uh here’s another one for you
02:36:31 uh that’s not the calendar that rome
02:36:33 used well
02:36:34 because
02:36:35 we use a modified rome calendar in the
02:36:38 world today right
02:36:39 um
02:36:41 in different countries except it at
02:36:42 different times i can show you that but
02:36:45 i’ll show you rome’s calendar while
02:36:46 christ was alive
02:36:50 well that’d be good
02:36:52 oh wait a minute
02:36:54 uh let’s make this bigger
02:36:56 do you see that
02:36:59 a through h
02:37:01 yeah
02:37:02 a b
02:37:04 c
02:37:05 d
02:37:05 e
02:37:06 f
02:37:08 wait
02:37:10 g h almost forgot my alphabet how many
02:37:12 is that
02:37:14 eight
02:37:15 i mean that’s a
02:37:17 day week yeah oh
02:37:20 france had a 10-day week
02:37:24 this america has a 13-day week
02:37:28 oh yeah so that’s why nobody can
02:37:30 that’s one reason why the book of mormon
02:37:31 didn’t happen in mesoamerica
02:37:34 yeah it’s not governed by the moon
02:37:36 like torah states
02:37:38 right
02:37:40 yeah here’s another one that we talked
02:37:41 about i think we talked about a little
02:37:42 bit the altars
02:37:44 no steps
02:37:46 yeah
02:37:47 miss america what do they have to their
02:37:49 step alters they have sex
02:37:53 yeah
02:37:56 book of mormon didn’t happen there
02:37:58 anyways um
02:37:59 eight day week
02:38:04 anyways go look at my calendar history
02:38:07 page i mean i could do more of that but
02:38:09 there’s
02:38:10 there’s been five day weeks
02:38:13 um 10 day weeks
02:38:16 uh and france did it for a while the
02:38:18 10-day week but their animals and humans
02:38:21 were dying so they then changed it to
02:38:23 lower because they were working them too
02:38:25 hard
02:38:27 yeah the sabbath is made for men
02:38:31 literally
02:38:32 these different calendars can show that
02:38:34 like france 10 day week animals because
02:38:38 torah actually states part of sabbath is
02:38:40 it your animals get to rest
02:38:43 ten day week
02:38:46 everything in humans we’re dying
02:38:48 the sabbath is made for men
02:38:51 everybody everybody’s supposed to rest
02:38:53 and not work
02:38:54 yeah at least not do the work of man
02:38:57 they’re right
02:38:59 there’s a day prayers you can do uh
02:39:01 because i believe seek you to enter the
02:39:02 lord’s rest
02:39:04 yes
02:39:05 um
02:39:07 torah actually states you can cook on it
02:39:10 there’s debates on that
02:39:12 you can make
02:39:13 fires as long as it’s not for work and a
02:39:16 whole bunch of anyways
02:39:18 the big thing is if it’s for commerce
02:39:20 don’t make do it if you could have done
02:39:22 it another
02:39:23 day
02:39:24 don’t do it like collecting sticks don’t
02:39:27 do that
02:39:28 um
02:39:29 in fact so you know some people will say
02:39:32 well laws should just be that when
02:39:34 you’re just not hurting people
02:39:37 the collecting of sticks he did not hurt
02:39:39 anybody but that was a capital
02:39:41 punishment
02:39:43 torah goes against the idea laws should
02:39:45 all only be those that that
02:39:48 go and hurt other people
02:39:50 who did that guy hurt in collecting
02:39:52 sticks
02:39:57 he was hurting no one
02:39:58 no
02:39:59 yeah
02:40:00 but that was a capital punishment and
02:40:02 that’s because it was on the sabbath
02:40:04 but because the sabbath is a sign
02:40:07 anyways it’s the sign it’s the sign that
02:40:10 you’re as people
02:40:11 right and if you’re not your people is
02:40:13 people what are you you’re spiritually
02:40:15 dead
02:40:16 that’s capital punishment
02:40:21 the laws are very symbolic
02:40:23 once you start getting into it
02:40:25 um
02:40:26 so
02:40:27 yeah
02:40:31 um okay well that’s that’s been well
02:40:34 this has been fascinating i do have
02:40:38 we didn’t even finish the book of mormon
02:40:39 verses yet we didn’t know him
02:40:41 yeah i know
02:40:42 but there’s so much and i’m really
02:40:44 looking forward to meeting up with you
02:40:46 again tomorrow
02:40:47 okay so um i’m going to stop recording
02:40:50 for
02:40:51 because we’re probably done
02:40:53 uh and unless uh joe and gary want to do
02:40:55 something they’ve been kind of quiet
02:40:58 hopefully they’ve enjoyed it
02:41:05 is gary going to try to say something he
02:41:06 i saw his mute go away
02:41:09 no i’m just saying i’m still here oh
02:41:11 okay
02:41:12 um
02:41:14 all right so it sounds like they don’t
02:41:15 want to discuss anything so i’m going to
02:41:16 stop the recording don’t go anywhere yet
02:41:18 okay