Scripture Study 2023-01-06

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Mysteries are not going to save you. What will help you get saved is BECOMING like Yeshua. Looked into scriptures on the mustard seed. Talked about Faith. Baptism is nessary only when an authorized servant of YHWH can do perform it. Unit under YHWH’s ancient and eternal ways. Looked into symbolic meanings of mountain. Bringing out a spiritual meaning of Matthew 17:20. The gospel is about BECOMING. Justification is like engagement, Sanctification is like the marriage. When you look at the scriptures the wrong way there are lots of contradictions, but when you look at them the right way they support each other. Limhites lost authority to baptize in one generation. The High Priesthood is given by the voice of YHWH. If going to YHWH’s alter had steps, which it doesn’t, our nakedness would be uncovered, as happens with the new age / occult. Ammon in Mosiah (LDS 21) (RLDS 9) represents the RLDS / CoC church while Noah represents the LDS / Brighamite church. Baptism is a WITNESS of a covenant to keep all of YHWH’s

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00:00:00 for study
00:00:02 so
00:00:03 um
00:00:05 just to go with Mysteries and how
00:00:09 you they shouldn’t be your focus okay
00:00:12 the Mysteries aren’t going to save you
00:00:15 no it’s the gnostics that think that
00:00:18 you’re going to get saved by some
00:00:19 special knowledge
00:00:22 um but that’s not the gospel of Yeshua
00:00:25 the gospel of Yeshua is a gospel of
00:00:28 becoming like
00:00:31 him
00:00:33 and in the words of lectures on faith
00:00:38 seven I think it is I’d have to double
00:00:40 check but he is our template of who
00:00:42 we’re supposed to be like and
00:00:45 I I don’t know in programming we used
00:00:48 your word template a lot so but yeah in
00:00:52 common language I I actually don’t know
00:00:54 how much it’s used so just in case it’s
00:00:57 the pattern that you’re supposed to be
00:00:59 after
00:01:01 um so it’s basically saying
00:01:03 we are to become like Yeshua if we are
00:01:06 going to be saved well he establishes
00:01:09 that in The Sermon on the Mount
00:01:11 here’s an interesting little tidbit what
00:01:14 was this year’s occupation
00:01:17 uh real quick before we go a little bit
00:01:19 more let me just finish thought and then
00:01:20 we can start
00:01:21 um going down what you want to say okay
00:01:23 Matt yeah
00:01:25 my main point is
00:01:28 the Mysteries won’t save you yes they
00:01:31 can actually condemn you
00:01:33 for
00:01:34 um until you understand the basics she
00:01:37 won’t even understand the Mysteries and
00:01:39 and yeshua’s words how are you going to
00:01:43 believe
00:01:44 Heavenly things if you don’t believe the
00:01:47 Earthly things
00:01:49 right and the Earthly things is how to
00:01:52 apply things here and now and the
00:01:55 Heavenly things are you know for the
00:01:57 Hereafter so if you’re not focused on
00:01:59 the Here and Now
00:02:01 how to do his spiritual laws how he told
00:02:05 us to do them here and now you’re not
00:02:07 even going to understand the Heavenly
00:02:09 things because until you get the things
00:02:10 in alignment with Yeshua on the Earthly
00:02:13 things you won’t be in alignment with
00:02:15 him on the Heavenly things
00:02:17 that most people
00:02:19 want to focus on which doesn’t help you
00:02:22 become
00:02:23 this life is about preparing to meet
00:02:26 Yahweh AKA to become like him okay and
00:02:31 it’s very clear in the scriptures that
00:02:34 this light
00:02:36 the one we’re in yes time to prepare to
00:02:39 meet God yeah we there’s no repenting
00:02:42 after we die and there’s no more there’s
00:02:44 no more works that it can be performed
00:02:46 as the Book of Mormon puts it after we
00:02:47 die
00:02:48 come on
00:02:50 anyways so what were you going to say
00:02:52 Matt so
00:02:54 in carpentry
00:02:57 everything is based off of the template
00:03:02 you have to have the basic template in
00:03:05 place before you can start or basic idea
00:03:08 before you can actually start putting
00:03:11 things together
00:03:14 and a really cool thing is what was
00:03:16 Christ’s occupation
00:03:18 but debatable
00:03:21 um well I mean what is this sad
00:03:24 occupation you know well you want
00:03:26 English or in the Greek
00:03:30 well in the English it’s carpentry in
00:03:32 New York
00:03:35 um but
00:03:38 in essence according to the English
00:03:41 definition though
00:03:44 everything is based off of a template
00:03:50 you have to start with the basics you
00:03:53 have to understand the basics the basic
00:03:55 nuts bolts Nails
00:03:57 uh Woods
00:03:59 different types of wood or different
00:04:02 types of things that make your solid
00:04:05 foundation have to have the template
00:04:07 just like in programming you have to
00:04:10 have a template in order to even begin
00:04:13 to make sense of what the heck you’re
00:04:15 trying to do with it yeah you have to
00:04:18 you have to know some math and what
00:04:20 variables are
00:04:23 yeah but yeah um yeah I I think the I
00:04:27 think the um
00:04:30 there’s a blueprint yes there’s a
00:04:33 blueprint that we’re supposed to follow
00:04:34 you know what the interesting thing
00:04:36 about faith like onto a mustard seed is
00:04:39 inside that Mustard Seed is the
00:04:42 blueprint
00:04:43 of what will create
00:04:47 the mustard bush tree
00:04:50 what have you
00:04:52 so when he’s talking about faith like
00:04:53 onto a mustard seed he’s not talking
00:04:55 necessarily about the size of your face
00:04:57 he’s talking about faith to become
00:05:00 that exactly what you what the blueprint
00:05:04 is there for is there for you to become
00:05:07 that Faith within that that faith
00:05:12 that faith that you can do that I have
00:05:15 faith that you that dictates that you
00:05:17 must do that
00:05:19 well I I think you picked the muster
00:05:21 suit on purpose but I do see your point
00:05:23 that all seeds have that blueprint in
00:05:26 them right yes
00:05:28 um but
00:05:31 I I do think he picked the small one on
00:05:35 purpose though
00:05:37 um
00:05:42 we’d go look at those verses if you want
00:05:45 uh yeah depending how important that is
00:05:49 to the thing you’re trying to bring out
00:05:51 no I mean
00:05:53 for me the point is is that when he’s
00:05:57 talking about faith like onto a mustard
00:05:59 seed it’s not
00:06:00 it’s not just the amount of Faith
00:06:03 because faith is something that is
00:06:05 actually in terms of
00:06:09 faith is
00:06:11 something that’s very hard to quantify
00:06:14 it’s very hard to quantify that you’re
00:06:16 trusting God
00:06:19 it is possible to quantify your diligent
00:06:21 work
00:06:22 but it is not but it is very hard to
00:06:24 quantify how much you trust God
00:06:28 um
00:06:30 well let’s let’s let’s go look at those
00:06:32 verses let’s start with that okay
00:06:36 um let’s see
00:06:37 Matthew 17. Matthew oh Matthew yeah so
00:06:43 I’m gonna get the jst it’s probably
00:06:46 since
00:06:46 that’s fine look at that more
00:06:49 um
00:06:50 I’m doing better at looking at it but
00:06:52 let’s we’ll start that out with using
00:06:54 the Kindle I think that’s Matthew 17
00:06:56 though right
00:06:57 let’s
00:07:08 oh I was already on it
00:07:17 basically mustard seed
00:07:28 foreign
00:07:47 [Music]
00:07:58 oh
00:08:00 oh the words the words here are actually
00:08:03 the actual words are really informative
00:08:05 and they actually back up the point that
00:08:07 I’m trying to make here
00:08:09 and the okay because the the disciples
00:08:13 are approaching Jesus about why they
00:08:16 couldn’t cast out a demon
00:08:18 sure
00:08:19 and Jesus and his is what Jesus says out
00:08:22 of them
00:08:25 because of your unbelief
00:08:28 for verily I say unto you
00:08:30 if ye have faith as a grain of mustard
00:08:34 seed like very little and that’s what
00:08:36 I’m trying to say it actually it’s not
00:08:38 no he’s not talking about the size faith
00:08:40 has a grain of mustard seed he’s it’s
00:08:42 not size he’s not
00:08:45 I don’t think that’s what he’s talking
00:08:46 about well I think it actually says
00:08:49 little here but we’ll keep reading okay
00:08:51 well does it say that in the in the
00:08:54 Joseph Smith uh that’s a good question
00:08:57 um because I I don’t know on the Joseph
00:08:59 Smith
00:09:00 as a grain of mustard seed it doesn’t
00:09:03 say anything about size you shall not
00:09:05 yet hence the other place and it shall
00:09:08 remove and nothing shall be impossible
00:09:09 on you I’ll be at this kind goth not out
00:09:12 but by prayer and fasting
00:09:19 shall betrayed and Sons okay him okay so
00:09:22 I think that’s the end of The Mustard
00:09:24 Seed it looks like that’s the whole
00:09:26 Mustard Seed thing right there
00:09:28 but let’s keep looking because I do and
00:09:31 maybe my memory is bad I do think
00:09:33 some more it says little
00:09:36 somewhere but
00:09:38 um now let’s take a look at Luke
00:09:42 this could be in multiple places
00:09:45 um right let’s take a look at Luke
00:09:46 Harmony
00:09:49 uh
00:09:53 I don’t have all this stuff memorized
00:10:01 I want to stop sure
00:10:23 oh yeah well
00:10:27 so
00:10:29 oh
00:10:34 let’s see what’s the best way to find it
00:10:39 Optical guy why don’t we why don’t we
00:10:41 put in uh in the search grain of mustard
00:10:44 seed mustard well I’m going to the
00:10:47 topical guide they probably have this
00:10:50 okay enough just to get the verses right
00:10:54 yeah yeah
00:10:55 mustard okay
00:10:58 okay uh yeah so they they have three
00:11:02 oh in fact
00:11:04 there’s two of them in Matthew so let’s
00:11:06 go back to Matthew
00:11:09 oh the other one
00:11:12 Matthew 13.
00:11:21 1331 let’s see
00:11:25 uh
00:11:27 okay yeah okay is the least of all seeds
00:11:32 but when it is grown it is the greatest
00:11:35 among herbs and becometh a tree and so
00:11:39 the birds of the of the air come and
00:11:42 Lodge in the branches thereof so I I see
00:11:45 a couple things here okay before going
00:11:47 to the other verses
00:11:49 um
00:11:51 least I mean we can go look at the word
00:11:53 least but that’s like smallest that that
00:11:56 has to do with sizes right yeah that is
00:11:58 that is definite that’s one that’s
00:12:00 definitely about sizes but that’s making
00:12:02 a different point
00:12:04 um this one’s definitely making a
00:12:05 different point well I I think it’s true
00:12:08 it is about it is about becoming
00:12:11 much like the other is I I do think
00:12:14 there’s connections though with the size
00:12:15 I don’t think he accidentally used
00:12:17 Mustard Seed now if we
00:12:20 trust the order of Matthew this is
00:12:24 something they already learned that
00:12:25 mustard has to do with small
00:12:27 so I don’t think he had to go and say
00:12:30 small again myself but this is this is
00:12:33 me okay
00:12:35 um but I mean it it’s definitely saying
00:12:38 it’s small okay
00:12:39 and it’s one of the greatest
00:12:42 of the herbs
00:12:44 you know
00:12:48 and maybe I’m reading into this and we
00:12:50 could go look at the Greek but herbs are
00:12:52 generally bushes right yeah mustard The
00:12:55 Mustard Seed becomes a bush
00:12:58 right which is large which is quite
00:13:00 large
00:13:01 right
00:13:02 um
00:13:03 but I’m getting more of the bush
00:13:08 um in that I see this pointing to two
00:13:11 events
00:13:14 Abraham and Isaac with the ram
00:13:18 and Moses with the burning bush right I
00:13:22 to me I see it pointing those to those
00:13:27 in fact I I and this is something I need
00:13:30 to get more into I haven’t looked at the
00:13:32 Hebrew of this and we can later tonight
00:13:34 after we look at these other verses
00:13:36 because not to get too sidetracked but I
00:13:39 I wonder
00:13:40 if those
00:13:42 the Hebrew behind those two would
00:13:45 connect with each other the burning bush
00:13:48 and the bush well I mean maybe it’s
00:13:53 talking about size but I fail to see how
00:13:55 you can cut how you can actually
00:13:57 quantify the size of someone’s faith
00:14:02 I hear what you’re saying there and and
00:14:04 I would definitely agree that’s a a a
00:14:06 tricky thing that’s problematic to me
00:14:09 um I I think more was getting it is it
00:14:12 actually requires little faith like real
00:14:15 faith and trust and diligence
00:14:20 right
00:14:21 uh I think that’s more what’s good I
00:14:23 don’t think it’s actually trying to get
00:14:24 to quantify it because
00:14:28 because you can’t quantify trust no no
00:14:31 no I’m not talking about quantification
00:14:34 what I’m talking about is if you have
00:14:36 faith like unto a mustard seed that
00:14:39 Mustard Seed within its DNA or whatever
00:14:41 not DNA but in its construct in its
00:14:44 template has a trust built in that it
00:14:48 will grow into the massive bush or tree
00:14:53 that’s built into it so there is an
00:14:57 element of trust yeah
00:15:00 I mean yeah
00:15:02 so let’s go look at these um other ones
00:15:04 in fact
00:15:06 um
00:15:08 Mark 4 31
00:15:18 .
00:15:22 okay do that right Mark
00:15:25 four
00:15:27 okay oh yeah I’m looking 30 is starting
00:15:30 in verse 30. and he said where onto
00:15:33 shall we like in the kingdom of God or
00:15:35 with what comparison shall We compare it
00:15:37 it’s like a grain of mustard seed which
00:15:39 one of the Sun and the Earth is less
00:15:40 than all the seeds to be sown that be in
00:15:42 the earth and when it is grown so and it
00:15:44 groweth up and becometh greater than all
00:15:47 herbs and shoot without great branches
00:15:49 so if the files of the air May Lodge
00:15:51 under the shadow of it so to me I see
00:15:55 less that’s a that’s a quantifier right
00:15:58 right
00:15:59 and it’s definitely he’s talking about
00:16:01 the kingdom but there he’s talking about
00:16:04 the kingdom of God not so much faith in
00:16:06 and of itself I I hear that but the
00:16:09 kingdom is faith
00:16:11 the Kingdom of Heaven is within
00:16:14 yeah yeah and
00:16:17 [Music]
00:16:19 tell me I I see a couple things on that
00:16:21 one faith and where’s the law supposed
00:16:23 to be written
00:16:25 is supposed to be written on our hearts
00:16:27 yes uh which is within and what is the
00:16:30 kingdom of heaven but
00:16:32 people keeping the law right
00:16:36 um anyways just me connecting it to the
00:16:39 law again Stephen
00:16:44 um but I I how it is possible to
00:16:47 quantify how well it is possible to
00:16:51 quantify how well one keeps the law
00:16:55 but um
00:16:57 even then it’s even then it’s all a
00:17:01 subjective measurement
00:17:03 oh yeah it it I I agree it’s it’s not
00:17:06 something you can exactly scientifically
00:17:09 test right right
00:17:12 but I at the same time so basically but
00:17:15 basically I think we get bogged down my
00:17:18 point is the real thing that I’m trying
00:17:20 to point out is that we get bogged down
00:17:22 on the size and the size is not
00:17:24 important but the nature is important
00:17:30 um okay okay I can go with that the
00:17:32 nature the size isn’t what’s important
00:17:34 we get we bog down on that crap the main
00:17:37 thing what is important is the nature of
00:17:40 our faith that whether we have that
00:17:42 trust that if we follow the blueprint
00:17:45 that’s given to us
00:17:49 that we will become
00:17:51 I I do agree with you the more important
00:17:53 thing is the nature because if you have
00:17:55 the wrong nature even great or small
00:17:57 faith in the wrong type of thing the
00:18:01 wrong nature
00:18:02 it’s not going to do any good so I do
00:18:04 agree with you there
00:18:06 um yeah I I think more is trying to
00:18:09 bring out
00:18:10 I I see Matthew 17 as kind of a rebuke
00:18:14 from Yeshua twos yeah apostles
00:18:18 yeah disciples I I mean because they’ve
00:18:21 been I don’t know how long they’ve been
00:18:23 with them but they’ve been with them for
00:18:24 a while
00:18:26 that’s pretty dude he was probably
00:18:29 he’s probably a little
00:18:32 disappointed
00:18:34 to put it nicely that they
00:18:38 weren’t doing what he asked them to do
00:18:40 right yeah and they didn’t believe well
00:18:44 technically they were still having
00:18:45 disputations as to who was greatest
00:18:48 among them
00:18:50 oh yeah yeah
00:18:54 um which shows that their focus was
00:18:56 wrong exactly which I think also just
00:19:00 kind of goes along their their faith was
00:19:02 in the wrong thing
00:19:04 also I kind of go with with what Ben’s
00:19:07 trying to say but I I do think though
00:19:12 my my it just takes a little in fact
00:19:17 32 I didn’t even sure it just takes them
00:19:20 a little bit it just takes a little bit
00:19:22 of Faith a little bit of genuine faith
00:19:24 right Alma 32 is just like just a little
00:19:27 bit right and it’ll grow right so yeah
00:19:30 give heart that’s what I was thinking
00:19:33 Zama 32. now the 32 room in your heart
00:19:36 for the seed to grow
00:19:38 cultivate your heart
00:19:40 open your heart
00:19:41 I I do think this was kind of a a mean
00:19:46 reboot because like how could you not do
00:19:49 this it takes so little
00:19:53 um
00:19:54 and you had less than the little that
00:19:56 was needed
00:19:57 mm-hmm
00:19:59 um so real quick let’s go look at uh
00:20:01 Luke 13 19. and it is a grain of mustard
00:20:05 seed which a man took and cast it into
00:20:07 his garden and it grew and waxed a great
00:20:10 tree and the thousands of the air lost
00:20:12 to the branches there all there
00:20:14 um so the fowls of the air I believe has
00:20:17 to do with angels so once once we grow
00:20:21 we can be like Nephi bar Helaman uh and
00:20:26 receive Angel Angelic visitations daily
00:20:29 yeah
00:20:32 um well yeah once we start acting
00:20:35 in faith
00:20:36 right
00:20:39 if you follow the blueprint that has
00:20:42 given
00:20:43 that you will become
00:20:49 what it is stated you will become
00:20:51 yeah down
00:20:53 so
00:20:55 just go back
00:20:58 17
00:21:00 and this is where
00:21:04 foreign
00:21:08 anything less than that is not
00:21:10 sufficient to engender actual obedience
00:21:12 any any belief less than that is not
00:21:15 sufficient to engender obedience
00:21:19 right
00:21:21 um
00:21:21 but
00:21:24 so Matthew 17 20 and Yeshua said unto
00:21:29 them
00:21:30 because of your unbelief
00:21:33 mm-hmm
00:21:35 for very like saying to you if you had
00:21:36 Faith as a grain of a mustard seed you
00:21:39 should say unto this mountain remove
00:21:40 hints too Yonder place and it shall
00:21:42 removed and nothing shall be impossible
00:21:44 unto you so this reminds me of brother
00:21:47 Jared let’s go
00:21:52 through 12 right
00:21:56 s about the face oh look it talks about
00:22:00 the faith either as well yeah yeah
00:22:01 because I think that’s where it talks
00:22:03 about how he moved a mountain right yeah
00:22:05 even he says even uh the brother one
00:22:09 Nephi 13 wherefore after that I have
00:22:12 you like listening to that every time oh
00:22:15 absolutely
00:22:18 I love the implection I have to say
00:22:23 uh yeah
00:22:25 it is I prefer this Edition
00:22:28 um anyways
00:22:35 Okay so
00:22:39 but
00:22:40 um
00:22:41 which verse is about the mountain right
00:22:45 not I don’t have memorized that’s going
00:22:47 to be after 27 I think no actually is it
00:22:51 earlier on in the gym
00:22:56 I see
00:23:00 30. so I just did a search in the gospel
00:23:04 library I’m using both because I can’t
00:23:07 search very well here
00:23:09 um oh yeah for the brother of Jared said
00:23:11 under the mountains there and removed
00:23:13 and it was removed and if he had not had
00:23:15 faith it would not have moved
00:23:18 wherefore Thou workest after men
00:23:20 wherefore Thou workest after men have
00:23:22 faith
00:23:24 see and what is Faith but faith is
00:23:26 trusting God coupled with diligent
00:23:28 action
00:23:30 right right it’s trust
00:23:32 um my definition of faith is trust and
00:23:35 diligence which means
00:23:38 uh you trust and then you do
00:23:40 mm-hmm
00:23:42 um and yeah like yeah very much the same
00:23:46 thing as what I was saying is it’s Faith
00:23:48 coupled with faith coupled with diligent
00:23:50 action right and very much very much the
00:23:54 same idea is it weird oh because uh
00:23:59 you know and the thing is it needs to be
00:24:02 the action that it needs to be the
00:24:03 action that is
00:24:05 it needs to be the action that God tells
00:24:07 you to death
00:24:09 prefer so uh the one thing I was trying
00:24:11 to see if it talked about anything about
00:24:13 the amount here
00:24:17 um as in because here’s someone actually
00:24:19 did move a mountain right it doesn’t say
00:24:21 anything about that it just says Z have
00:24:24 faith if you hadn’t had faith it
00:24:25 wouldn’t
00:24:27 and what I see but yeah
00:24:32 so ether 12 is going off of examples
00:24:36 that have actually happened right
00:24:41 um so I
00:24:44 I don’t remember if earlier in ether
00:24:47 actually talks about this event I
00:24:50 just shows I don’t have the whole book
00:24:52 memorized like I want to
00:24:55 um
00:24:56 but let’s let’s go look at the
00:24:58 concordance real quick
00:25:01 uh
00:25:02 um let’s go index to Triple we’ll go
00:25:06 Mountain
00:25:07 I I don’t remember them
00:25:10 talking about it
00:25:13 no it doesn’t really talk about it just
00:25:17 in that spot that’s what I kind of
00:25:19 recall but I’m just double checking I I
00:25:21 don’t see a reason why they would keep
00:25:23 this one out of the index so in the in
00:25:26 this idea of moving mountains I think
00:25:28 it’s the comparison to what the Savior
00:25:31 said if you add Faith Like a mustard
00:25:34 seed you can move mountains and so it
00:25:37 doesn’t give us yes
00:25:39 along with that I actually believe yeshu
00:25:42 is referring to this event yes okay
00:25:47 uh that’s me though because you could
00:25:49 also be referring to Enoch and Moses
00:25:54 sir that could be
00:25:56 um
00:25:57 let’s see
00:25:59 yeah that’s either
00:26:03 uh so the two close to this mountain in
00:26:07 ethers ether three or the brother Jared
00:26:12 speaks unto Yahweh upon the mount that’s
00:26:14 not this event and the brother of Jared
00:26:17 tells the mountain to remove
00:26:19 um so yeah I was right it doesn’t really
00:26:21 talk about it except for right here
00:26:24 um because ether’s kind of a summary of
00:26:27 a record right but anyways right right
00:26:31 but for the brother Jerry said onto the
00:26:34 mountain remove it didn’t for me this
00:26:38 actually is saying it happened
00:26:40 for the brother Jared said onto the
00:26:42 mountain it wasn’t speculating it could
00:26:44 happen I think it’s saying that it
00:26:46 actually did happen well yeah because
00:26:48 then it says afterward and it was
00:26:50 removed right uh as this earlier you
00:26:53 made it it sounded to me that you were
00:26:55 saying that like it was
00:26:59 a possibility not that it actually did
00:27:01 no that’s not what that’s not what I was
00:27:04 saying at all oh okay well maybe I
00:27:05 misunderstood that yeah it’s possible
00:27:08 I’m not always I don’t always I don’t
00:27:10 always speak clearly uh either do I so
00:27:14 that’s
00:27:16 um that’s why I could uh uh like if I
00:27:18 don’t know if you’re still working on
00:27:19 your blog so I know one time you said
00:27:21 you’re working on a blog post yeah I’ve
00:27:23 been I’ve been I’ve been tied up in
00:27:25 homeschooling concerns recently okay
00:27:27 that’s fine I I’ve been a little fed up
00:27:30 on a few other things also but anyways
00:27:32 it takes time to word it really
00:27:35 carefully right yes it does
00:27:38 um but anyways
00:27:41 um so but anyways my main point for
00:27:42 bringing this up is it doesn’t really
00:27:44 say anything about the amount of faith
00:27:46 that he had when that happened right
00:27:48 just that it had Faith just that he had
00:27:50 Faith right
00:27:52 um
00:27:54 you know just on faith we could go look
00:27:57 at lectures on faith One deals with
00:28:00 this a bit we could go look at that a
00:28:02 little bit real quick if you want yeah
00:28:04 sure
00:28:06 I’m always game for some lectures on
00:28:08 faith
00:28:09 I like the lectures on faith oops
00:28:18 they’re almost there
00:28:22 I’m getting dressed yeah
00:28:26 so agreeable to this order we have to
00:28:29 show what Vape is
00:28:31 um
00:28:34 so this thing I I like
00:28:37 um the substance a better translation is
00:28:40 assurance
00:28:43 um
00:28:44 I think so for the evidence of Things
00:28:46 Not Seen
00:28:49 for this we learned that faith is
00:28:51 assurance
00:28:53 which men have of the existence of
00:28:56 things which they have not seen
00:28:59 um and the principle of action in all
00:29:01 intelligent beings right so this sounds
00:29:04 like trust and diligence yep and in the
00:29:08 way I put it but
00:29:10 um
00:29:12 Assurance that’s just going to be
00:29:14 something like
00:29:17 Noah was told it was going to flood any
00:29:19 um was told to go build the ark and he
00:29:22 acted on it right he didn’t see it
00:29:25 but he had the Assurance from yahweh’s
00:29:28 words that it was going to happen right
00:29:30 the trustees
00:29:34 men were duly consider themselves and
00:29:36 turn their thoughts and Reflections to
00:29:38 the operations of their own mind they
00:29:39 would readily discover that it is Faith
00:29:42 and Faith only which is the moving cause
00:29:45 of all action
00:29:48 in them that without it both mind and
00:29:51 body would be in a state of inactivity
00:29:53 and their exertions would cease both
00:29:55 physical and mental so I I do like how
00:29:58 in lectures on faith one it it
00:30:02 it’s tying things it’s the principle on
00:30:06 saving Faith just about everything in
00:30:10 fact I I think it’s this verse it just
00:30:13 goes in like if
00:30:15 uh why would you go for something if you
00:30:17 first didn’t believe it was going to
00:30:19 happen which is
00:30:20 right right
00:30:23 um
00:30:25 faith is the cause of all action and
00:30:28 terrible concerns
00:30:32 um
00:30:34 so it is so it isn’t spiritual for the
00:30:36 Savior has said that and that truly that
00:30:38 he that believeth and is baptized shall
00:30:41 be saved
00:30:43 right
00:30:45 um
00:30:45 I mean I I do believe baptism
00:30:49 uh if you can do it is necessary right
00:30:52 if you have someone that you believe is
00:30:54 authorized from Yahweh to do it but if
00:30:58 this is where it gets a little tricky
00:31:00 where if
00:31:01 you’ve covenanted with Yahweh to keep
00:31:03 his Commandments but there’s no one
00:31:05 around that you believe is authorized to
00:31:07 baptize you
00:31:09 well then you trust necessary but there
00:31:12 is something I believe that you should
00:31:15 trust that the Lord will provide that
00:31:16 opportunity for you right right but
00:31:18 along the same lines if someone is
00:31:21 around that is authorized and you won’t
00:31:23 do it then it will continue
00:31:27 right right because you’re willfully
00:31:33 the thing is while the kingdom of God is
00:31:37 within
00:31:39 there actually is a structure to it as
00:31:42 well we just don’t know what that is
00:31:45 I don’t know anything about it
00:31:48 we have a general kind of blue General
00:31:51 kind of blueprint and structure from the
00:31:54 law
00:31:56 but it’s very loose there’s nothing
00:31:59 truly concrete
00:32:02 sure we can we know some patterns but we
00:32:05 don’t know anything with concrete on it
00:32:07 yeah we don’t have every single dot
00:32:10 connected we don’t have every dot
00:32:12 connected no and I I don’t think we’re
00:32:14 going to in fact right Laura when Yahweh
00:32:19 told Abraham to go start
00:32:22 um go and look at the land that he was
00:32:24 always going to give him he didn’t know
00:32:26 where he was going yeah right
00:32:29 I I don’t I think we’re not supposed to
00:32:33 fully know
00:32:35 [Music]
00:32:38 but my point is is that there that the
00:32:41 kingdom of God is just like all things
00:32:44 are spiritual
00:32:47 all things also have a temporal
00:32:49 manifestation and an organ and God is a
00:32:53 god of order so there will be so there
00:32:55 is an order that will be there sure
00:32:59 um there are patterns
00:33:01 there are patterns established
00:33:02 throughout scripture defining that order
00:33:07 but it’s not necessarily what we’ve been
00:33:09 what we in the restoration have been
00:33:11 raised to believe that it will look like
00:33:14 oh yeah I agree with that
00:33:17 um I I a big part of the order is going
00:33:21 to be the law Torah
00:33:23 um
00:33:25 it it’s just
00:33:27 Joe Smith has a quote I can find if you
00:33:30 want but if it’s not Eternal it’s not
00:33:33 from Yahweh
00:33:34 that’s right well I mean that’s actually
00:33:38 very much like
00:33:40 um
00:33:41 is it that’s actually a principle that
00:33:44 is also you can also find voice
00:33:48 um
00:33:49 strangely even in the Eastern
00:33:51 philosophies where it says if it is that
00:33:53 which is that which changes is not real
00:33:57 huh that’s I didn’t know that but that’s
00:33:59 that’s you know it’s pretty much the
00:34:01 same thing and I do believe the Eastern
00:34:03 stuff had some truth because I mean
00:34:06 everybody came from Noah right and then
00:34:09 got corrupted and no one did teaches
00:34:13 um
00:34:14 his children and grandchildren and all
00:34:17 until he was died what the correct ways
00:34:19 were it’s just they decided not to
00:34:21 follow him
00:34:23 um but I I do believe that’s why around
00:34:26 the world you’ll see things close
00:34:28 is because of that
00:34:32 um and so don’t unite in the perversions
00:34:35 bring people to the truth because I see
00:34:38 a lot of people
00:34:39 uniting in perversions or or accepting
00:34:43 well I’ll accept your perversion if you
00:34:44 accept my perversion I mean they don’t
00:34:46 say it that way but that’s what’s going
00:34:48 on yeah exactly they’re exchanging uh
00:34:52 they’re exchanging falsities
00:34:55 yeah and that’s not how you we become
00:34:58 United and yahweh’s one way
00:35:02 yeah not United and accepting well
00:35:05 you’re always okay and my Way’s okay too
00:35:08 that’s not United
00:35:09 [Music]
00:35:12 no that’s not United actually no I agree
00:35:15 with you but that’s what I see going on
00:35:17 that’s the that’s the great deception
00:35:20 yeah
00:35:24 um okay well back to this
00:35:27 temporal we see Faith all temporal
00:35:30 beings
00:35:32 interesting
00:35:35 uh through faith we understand the
00:35:37 worlds were framed by the word of Elohim
00:35:41 so that things which are seen were not
00:35:44 made of things which do appear
00:35:48 um
00:35:50 yeah uh
00:35:52 that reminds me a little bit of I always
00:35:55 get these two new Elijah with the Angels
00:35:58 were his his helper
00:36:02 servant then
00:36:04 trust and he was worried because he was
00:36:07 the armies
00:36:09 and then he was
00:36:12 Elijah or Elisha I always get those two
00:36:14 names mixed up said
00:36:17 that’s that’s Elijah
00:36:19 Open the Eyes of my servant so he can
00:36:22 see right see that the host that is with
00:36:24 us is greater than those that ass
00:36:26 offices
00:36:28 all right there’s a lot more behind the
00:36:31 scenes that’s going on that we just like
00:36:33 we don’t see right
00:36:35 and without faith it’s not going to
00:36:38 appear which I mean here is going on how
00:36:41 the world actually
00:36:43 happened because of the word of Yahweh
00:36:48 um right
00:36:49 right so it’s a little different we’re
00:36:51 saying here but I think it’s along the
00:36:53 same lines but anyways yeah sure
00:36:57 [Music]
00:36:58 um
00:37:00 I’m just trying to see if we can find
00:37:01 something help a little more with the
00:37:02 discussion on the face stuff I mean this
00:37:05 is a good lecture
00:37:06 I’m just trying to find if there’s
00:37:08 something more directly
00:37:10 connected to it and well the thing is
00:37:14 understanding the nature of faith is
00:37:16 actually right along the lines of the
00:37:20 question that we were talking about oh
00:37:23 here we go
00:37:25 here’s it’s starting to talk about the
00:37:27 experience so let’s let’s here you want
00:37:29 to read for a little bit yeah
00:37:31 okay who cannot see that if God framed
00:37:34 the worlds by faith that it is by faith
00:37:37 that he exercises
00:37:39 and that faith is the principle of power
00:37:42 and if that if the and that if the
00:37:45 principle of power it must so be it must
00:37:48 be so in man as well as in the deity
00:37:51 this is the testimony of all the sacred
00:37:53 writers the lesson which they have been
00:37:55 endeavoring to teach man
00:37:57 the Savior says Matthew 17 19-20 and
00:38:01 explaining the reason why the disciples
00:38:02 could not cast out the devil that it was
00:38:05 because of their unbelief but verily I
00:38:07 say unto you said he even if you have
00:38:09 faith as a grain of mustard seed ye
00:38:12 shall say unto this mountain remove
00:38:13 hence To Yonder place and it shall move
00:38:16 and nothing shall be impossible unto you
00:38:21 so once again I think
00:38:24 to me is referring to the nature of our
00:38:27 faith it’s yeah you start small
00:38:33 and you you start small but if you have
00:38:36 but if you follow the blueprint you’ll
00:38:38 become you will become great
00:38:42 so uh and like I said I I do
00:38:46 um I agree the nature is important I do
00:38:50 think it’s somewhat going to the size
00:38:52 but one thing I am just wondering
00:38:55 let’s go look at possible symbol
00:38:59 symbolic meaning of mountains
00:39:03 um so I have one thing I look at
00:39:05 occasionally we can look at real quick
00:39:08 I have a
00:39:10 I don’t always agree with it
00:39:12 and it doesn’t always have things
00:39:15 but here’s a little
00:39:17 dictionary of biblical imagery let’s see
00:39:20 if it has anything on Mountain just out
00:39:22 of curiosity
00:39:28 yeah maybe it’ll be faster to search
00:39:34 probably
00:39:37 yeah okay
00:39:44 well it’s going a lot different places
00:39:46 so I don’t know if it’ll be faster
00:39:59 oh
00:40:06 no okay so this is you know this makes
00:40:09 sense mountains and hills are literally
00:40:11 the places where Earth touches heaven
00:40:15 and and I could see that going along
00:40:17 with it right
00:40:19 because with I mean without face we
00:40:22 cannot please God and why because
00:40:25 without faith we can’t go to heaven and
00:40:27 go live with him again right
00:40:31 um so I guess let’s just click through
00:40:34 some of these there’s a lot of them
00:40:36 [Music]
00:40:37 um
00:40:38 uh or I can try to go back to try to go
00:40:41 to m and just find Mountain it’s just
00:40:47 I I wish oh wait maybe subject index
00:40:50 maybe I can
00:40:52 yeah do it faster here oh that’s going
00:40:55 slow too sorry
00:40:57 uh well when I’m on my own it’s not as a
00:41:02 nuisance that I have to scroll like this
00:41:03 it’s more
00:41:05 um here on the recordings and the dead
00:41:06 time it causes
00:41:09 well so it’s a little different when
00:41:12 you’re here in person than when you
00:41:14 listen to it after the fact right yeah
00:41:18 so I
00:41:20 I recognize that but I at the same time
00:41:24 uh let’s go and maybe go backwards maybe
00:41:27 that’ll be faster
00:41:30 I I do think it’ll be interesting oh
00:41:32 it’s mustard let’s look at that one real
00:41:34 quick
00:41:35 has there and then go to Mountain
00:41:37 from the references in the gospels in
00:41:39 urbanic right no
00:41:42 rabbinic writings take with a grain of
00:41:44 salt right okay the Mustard Seed was
00:41:47 Prevail for its smallness
00:41:49 there’s its size right yeah that gets us
00:41:53 right back into the quantification
00:41:54 exercise you’re right right yes you
00:41:57 described it as the smallest seed you
00:41:59 plant in the ground
00:42:02 depending on the precise variety of the
00:42:04 seed it produces a plant that would
00:42:06 normally reach two and six feet in
00:42:10 height
00:42:13 in the teachings of Yeshua the mustard
00:42:15 seed is mentioned in two different
00:42:17 contexts first in exhorting his
00:42:19 disciples to exercise greater faith
00:42:22 which I would agree with Yeshua uses our
00:42:27 hyperbole hyperbole to say that if they
00:42:32 would
00:42:32 have faith as a grain of mustard seed
00:42:34 they would be able to move a mountain
00:42:37 or commend a tree to plant itself in the
00:42:42 sea
00:42:43 absolutions uh I don’t did we look at
00:42:46 that one no we didn’t no I don’t I don’t
00:42:49 think we did anyways okay so I could use
00:42:51 this compared to the kingdom of God
00:42:52 heaven to a mustard seed that a man sows
00:42:55 in his garden two features of this
00:42:56 illustration striking
00:42:58 first Jesus’s listeners would have been
00:43:01 shocked by the idea of comparing the
00:43:02 kingdom of God heaven with the mustard
00:43:04 seeds them unless surely have seen
00:43:06 Blasphemous to associate God’s reign
00:43:08 with the tiniest of seeds second Jesus
00:43:11 focuses on the growth of the Mustard
00:43:13 Seed in spite of its minute size it
00:43:15 grows to become the largest star of
00:43:17 garden plants big enough for the birds
00:43:20 to perch in its branches for Jesus it is
00:43:22 the growth of the Tiny Seed into a large
00:43:24 plant that resembles the kingdom of God
00:43:26 or Heaven whereas his listeners it could
00:43:29 probably expected God’s kingdom to be
00:43:31 inaugurated in a dramatic
00:43:32 earth-shattering manner Jesus emphasizes
00:43:34 that from the smallest of Beginnings it
00:43:36 will slowly grow to reach its full size
00:43:40 this picture of gradual growth is also
00:43:42 reflected in the closely associated
00:43:44 parable of 11.
00:43:46 that’s a good one so one thing on the
00:43:49 garden that also reminds me of Alma 32
00:43:53 right yes
00:43:55 um
00:43:56 yeah what you plan you can plant even
00:43:59 know more than even no more than the
00:44:01 desire to believe and it will eventually
00:44:03 if
00:44:04 um what’s the word I’m looking for if
00:44:07 nourished will grow into that tree into
00:44:09 a tree of life right right because you
00:44:12 have to take care of it
00:44:13 mm-hmm
00:44:15 um
00:44:17 did I
00:44:18 no that’s mother I’m going back yeah
00:44:22 mother needs to mouth yeah you’re right
00:44:24 here oh you’re right silly me I didn’t
00:44:27 go back to school and learn my elf a bit
00:44:32 [Music]
00:44:38 okay mountains and Hills prolify a
00:44:41 Biblical Landscapes numbering
00:44:43 approximately 500 references no clear
00:44:46 distinction can be made between
00:44:47 mountains and hills and biblical imagery
00:44:50 together they represent an elevated
00:44:52 terrain origin
00:44:54 region elevated you know better
00:44:57 acting better a well-known
00:45:01 rhetorical feature a Biblical
00:45:03 parallelism is that the need for similar
00:45:05 terms and successive lines to lead to
00:45:09 stock doublets that are regularly paired
00:45:12 mountain and Hills constitute such a
00:45:14 formula being paired in parallel formed
00:45:17 40 times
00:45:19 biblical meanings of mountains are
00:45:21 paradoxical and even contradictory well
00:45:24 that’s that’s fine imagery has two edges
00:45:28 to to the sword right so I don’t see any
00:45:31 issue with that mountains and images are
00:45:34 images are often made clear by the
00:45:36 language that’s used around them yeah
00:45:38 the context you can know which one is
00:45:41 being applied because of context
00:45:44 nouns are sometimes a symbol of refuge
00:45:47 and security and sometimes a threatening
00:45:49 place of military Slaughter which that
00:45:51 makes sense because
00:45:54 um you know Moses went up the mount to
00:45:57 get yahweh’s law but we are supposed to
00:46:00 destroy the sacred places
00:46:04 on the ancient Pagan announced on or uh
00:46:09 on the mountains
00:46:11 the high places right yeah of the so
00:46:15 it’s it’s a double sword even just on
00:46:17 that right because one has to do with
00:46:19 the always way and what has to do with
00:46:21 the
00:46:22 man’s ways
00:46:24 um anyways
00:46:26 uh Mountain seals have always been
00:46:29 significant in neutral barriers that are
00:46:32 readily become Geographic and political
00:46:35 boundaries extreme
00:46:37 conditions make them Barren often sparse
00:46:40 populated that makes sense
00:46:43 which is much like those who keep the
00:46:46 law right they’re changing appearance
00:46:49 unchanging like the law
00:46:53 appearance makes them a measure of
00:46:55 permanent solidity just like the law the
00:46:59 natural features steep slopes Rock
00:47:01 outcrops sheer clothes make them
00:47:04 strategic portraits sites like the law
00:47:08 there are many nooks and crannies make
00:47:10 them places for hiding and refuge of
00:47:12 places to flee like the law
00:47:15 these physical qualities of mountains
00:47:19 give them
00:47:21 annotations of being Wild
00:47:24 well John the Baptist right
00:47:26 um people thought he was wild distant
00:47:30 and alien to civilization well I I don’t
00:47:33 know about you guys but I feel alienated
00:47:39 it’s up here
00:47:42 yeah there are nearly a hundred biblical
00:47:45 references to Hill countries
00:47:48 implying uh regions sparsely populated
00:47:52 beyond the
00:47:54 pale of what might be considered
00:47:56 civilized people flee to the hills when
00:47:59 their cities is destroyed well and
00:48:03 that’s what happens a lot when people
00:48:05 learn that their pulse Traditions get
00:48:07 destroyed right they go to the law
00:48:09 and lot Liz it was semi
00:48:14 Barabbas fashion arborist barbarous
00:48:17 fashion in a cave in the Hills after
00:48:20 askewing a civilized existence yeah
00:48:23 that’s a good point
00:48:25 um
00:48:27 I I don’t know how much that one would
00:48:29 go with the law though considering no
00:48:31 that’s uh yeah yeah well that could be
00:48:34 man’s law
00:48:37 because mountains yeah
00:48:40 um on that point I I mean it’s not
00:48:42 exactly the same but Sarah did something
00:48:45 like it’s somewhat similar right she
00:48:48 trusted under her own knowledge and
00:48:51 and broke the law like uh lot’s
00:48:54 daughters did not exactly the same but
00:48:56 kind of
00:48:59 um
00:49:00 right and anyways just the part so that
00:49:04 yeah that’s what we’re thinking about
00:49:05 yeah mountains are were persecuted
00:49:09 Christians wander in the skins of the
00:49:11 sheeps and goats were
00:49:14 egyptica
00:49:18 unfortunate daughter bewells her
00:49:20 virginity to for two months yes gesta is
00:49:24 the judge before Samson uh yeah and I
00:49:28 actually wrote about that and the the
00:49:30 two months
00:49:31 um to me represents the two Millennium
00:49:35 but anyways that’s another subject
00:49:38 as in it’s a prophecy of the times of
00:49:41 the Gentiles
00:49:43 uh the descendants of the uncouth bisha
00:49:46 and idiom that settled approximately in
00:49:48 the Hill Country
00:49:51 um that doesn’t quite go with the law
00:49:53 because they didn’t keep it right but
00:49:54 anyways well technically it does it does
00:49:58 kind of because it was by the law that
00:50:00 they were relegated to the Hill Country
00:50:02 it was the by the assignment of um
00:50:08 inheritances that the
00:50:12 okay I guess I don’t remember that part
00:50:14 but I I mean if anything they’re alone
00:50:16 to themselves
00:50:18 um
00:50:18 anyways other typical actions reinforce
00:50:22 the alien quantity of
00:50:24 mountains in the Bible there is few
00:50:28 fugitives hide or routed armies seek
00:50:31 Escape or soldiers
00:50:34 uh pursue their enemies or armies gather
00:50:37 okay
00:50:38 skip more because that one I don’t think
00:50:41 helps too much on the more positive note
00:50:43 the elevation of hills and mountains
00:50:45 make them natural places for Visions oh
00:50:49 this is you know
00:50:51 uh connecting with Yahweh
00:50:54 Proclamation Covenant making law giving
00:50:57 and Covenant renewal occur at the
00:50:59 mountains that due to their permanent
00:51:01 standards memorials to the Covenant they
00:51:04 are also the place from which the amount
00:51:07 from which announcements are made
00:51:08 cursing and blessing from e-ball and got
00:51:10 a Zine for example or the word of God
00:51:13 from Zion from Zion you know all those
00:51:16 go with the law right
00:51:20 you want to keep reading that I mean Ben
00:51:22 yeah mountains of The Poets in addition
00:51:26 to their remoteness and ruggedness hills
00:51:28 and mountains are large and impressive
00:51:30 their inaccessibility makes them unknown
00:51:32 and gives them an hour of Mystery their
00:51:35 visible immensity makes them The
00:51:37 Benchmark for enormity
00:51:40 these are the qualities that impress
00:51:42 biblical poets and Moses is farewell
00:51:45 blessing on Israel he speaks at one
00:51:48 point of ancient mountains and
00:51:50 everlasting Hills
00:51:52 the most striking images of the
00:51:54 destructiveness of Nature and Psalms are
00:51:57 the shaking of mountains in earthquakes
00:52:01 or volcanic eruptions and forest fires
00:52:04 and on the mountains
00:52:05 as recognized standards of immensity
00:52:07 mountains appear in descriptions of
00:52:09 God’s divine power
00:52:11 whom God Appears in his anger the
00:52:14 foundations of the mountains trembled
00:52:16 and quaked
00:52:17 when he comes down he touches the
00:52:19 mountain so that they smoke
00:52:22 and the mountains melt like Wax before
00:52:24 the Lord mountains are the standard
00:52:27 no ancient existence against which God’s
00:52:30 Everlasting existence is measured
00:52:32 righteousness is likened to the mighty
00:52:35 mountains as this is and that goes right
00:52:38 along the lines with the law yeah
00:52:41 as is his protection of his people
00:52:45 is more Majestic than the Everlasting
00:52:48 mountains
00:52:50 and God’s create and God’s creation even
00:52:53 of the mountains attests his strength in
00:52:56 Jesus teaching and Jesus is teaching the
00:52:58 largest of the mountains becomes a
00:53:00 measure of what people can do through
00:53:01 faith as they cast mountains into the
00:53:03 sea
00:53:05 hills and mountains are also personified
00:53:08 in scripture usually in passages of
00:53:10 Celebration they rejoice and praise
00:53:11 God’s name they also gird themselves
00:53:13 with joy Ezekiel pictures God is
00:53:16 addressing the mountains and which in
00:53:18 Micah 6 1-2 are summoned to hear a
00:53:21 covenant lawsuit
00:53:25 so
00:53:26 um let me do something I I just unless
00:53:28 you want to keep reading no that’s fine
00:53:32 I think we I think we have enough to
00:53:34 figure out what I think we have enough
00:53:36 to figure out what mountains so
00:53:39 well yeah I so Jesus said unto them I’m
00:53:42 uh Matthew 17.
00:53:45 because of your unbelief very early
00:53:47 saying do you have faith as a must grain
00:53:49 of a mustard you shall say unto this
00:53:52 heaven
00:53:57 come down here remove To Yonder place
00:54:02 here now yeah
00:54:06 um let’s go look at the first part of
00:54:07 ether 12.
00:54:10 wherefore dispute not because yes he not
00:54:13 just don’t dispute with me apparently
00:54:16 that’s what the computers okay
00:54:19 oh don’t worry don’t worry I’m not
00:54:21 listening to it
00:54:30 okay wherefore whosoever believeth in
00:54:34 God might surely hope for a better world
00:54:36 be in a place of the right hand of God
00:54:38 which hope cometh of faith and make it
00:54:41 anchor The Souls of man which make would
00:54:43 make them sure and said fast always
00:54:45 abiding in Good Works being led to
00:54:48 glorify God and it came to pass that
00:54:50 either did prophesy many great people
00:54:54 but
00:54:56 there one is later
00:54:59 Mountain Versus important oh no no but
00:55:02 I’m not I don’t want to oh okay we’re
00:55:04 off the mountains okay well it’s related
00:55:06 but here when I’m trying to bring out is
00:55:09 how when you have faith you’re always
00:55:11 abounding in good works which brings
00:55:13 Heaven to Earth yeah that’s a good idea
00:55:16 that’s that’s what I’m trying to connect
00:55:18 with
00:55:19 um a more spiritual meaning
00:55:22 being led to glorify God
00:55:24 of Matthew 17 20. so let’s go back to
00:55:28 that one oh yeah actually what you’re
00:55:30 saying yeah Matthew 17 20.
00:55:32 so in Jesus said and because of your
00:55:35 unbelief you couldn’t bring Heaven down
00:55:37 to earth
00:55:39 yeah
00:55:41 but in ether 12 we just read because of
00:55:44 your faith your good works is going to
00:55:46 make the world like it is in heaven AKA
00:55:49 bring Heaven down to earth
00:55:52 I I like I also like can we go back to
00:55:54 Ether again
00:55:56 those verses again yeah wherefore
00:56:00 dwelt in captivity all I don’t know why
00:56:02 he does it for that one and not the
00:56:03 other one sorry okay
00:56:07 um
00:56:08 uh who said believeth in God Mike
00:56:10 maturity I like how it
00:56:14 connects faith
00:56:17 as the cause of Good Works yes making an
00:56:21 anchor in the salt to The Souls of men
00:56:23 which would make them sure and steadfast
00:56:25 always abounding in good works faith is
00:56:28 the cause of good works
00:56:30 which uh we did a little bit on lunch or
00:56:33 some Faith one right yeah which means
00:56:39 yeah which makes sense because faith is
00:56:42 what causes faith is what brings it
00:56:46 faith is what brings heaven to us
00:56:49 which as from the symbolism we can
00:56:54 um
00:56:56 I think it’d be easy after reading some
00:56:58 of that and we can go back and read some
00:57:00 more but I think it would be easy to
00:57:02 imply that mountains could represent
00:57:05 Heaven yes
00:57:08 and yeah and that’s that’s in the
00:57:11 spiritual sense and also the mountains
00:57:14 could also just very well represent
00:57:15 mountains and as the case may be
00:57:18 [Laughter]
00:57:20 but as we know there’s a a temporal and
00:57:25 a spiritual absolutely there are there
00:57:29 is no thing that is purely physical
00:57:31 right and I
00:57:34 right now is just looking at these
00:57:35 things with you guys I wonder if Matthew
00:57:38 17 20 is talking about
00:57:41 bringing Heaven to Earth by through our
00:57:44 face of doing these good works and and
00:57:48 preaching and and getting rid of the
00:57:51 wickedness because casting out
00:57:55 is getting rid of wicked no I do believe
00:57:58 in the physical reality of casting out
00:58:01 demons okay
00:58:02 but I do think another spiritual meaning
00:58:05 is
00:58:08 yeah yeah oh yeah and so I the more I
00:58:12 look at it and think of it I think
00:58:15 that’s another application of that verse
00:58:17 but the thing is as it starts in small
00:58:20 humble beginnings
00:58:22 like the grain of mustard seed
00:58:25 [Music]
00:58:26 yeah
00:58:28 yeah oh right now right now there are
00:58:31 five of us here go ahead Charles
00:58:35 hello
00:58:37 I want to I want to have been listening
00:58:41 now okay thank you all for
00:58:44 I want to thank that brother
00:58:48 I don’t know the name but I’m talking
00:58:50 for the energy uses while while teaching
00:58:53 the gospel that’s right that’s right you
00:58:56 know
00:58:56 think things of the spiritual understood
00:58:59 those who are spiritual too
00:59:02 if you’re not spiritual you don’t
00:59:04 understand what what we are we are
00:59:07 talking about okay as in according to
00:59:10 Faith
00:59:12 I’m getting the point as in as you’ve
00:59:15 told about Matthew 17 20
00:59:20 it has been like
00:59:22 faith
00:59:25 you do if you have faith
00:59:29 I’m getting it here
00:59:32 I’m getting it and getting it
00:59:37 yeah while the disciples didn’t cast
00:59:40 the devil due to lack of faith
00:59:44 and even it’s a faith is the cause of
00:59:47 good
00:59:49 so you’re welcome Faith basing on
00:59:53 Scriptures
00:59:55 it is so hopeful
00:59:57 foreign
01:00:00 is the cause of good when you have faith
01:00:04 then you’re good
01:00:07 uh and even brother faith is trust and
01:00:11 and and do let us unite when you have if
01:00:15 it lets us Unite
01:00:18 uh even brother Stephen has gone on and
01:00:21 said
01:00:22 in God not because
01:00:25 People Unite not because of God by the
01:00:29 unite because of someone’s ways we
01:00:32 should unite because of good ways God
01:00:35 God the ways not because I I I I like
01:00:40 the way it breaks I like the way it talk
01:00:42 I like but we should Knight due to good
01:00:45 ways Oh Come concluding all this just
01:00:48 because I’m going to be sorry for a
01:00:51 while I have a job interview today to
01:00:55 Kampala
01:00:57 uh I’ll be there by 8 am
01:01:01 right now it is it’s 7 00 a.m it’s going
01:01:05 to seven a.m our time here
01:01:07 I’m sorry I will be leaving you but I
01:01:11 promised always be here every Luna
01:01:15 Sabbath I will give God two hours at
01:01:18 least
01:01:19 I will spare two hours from God I’m
01:01:22 happy to meet you all guys it has been
01:01:24 it has been a good lecture may God bless
01:01:27 you all thank you for the love of God
01:01:30 you show we should always unite you to
01:01:33 God not to do to other ways but because
01:01:36 we are all Godly
01:01:38 okay that was that was my speech for the
01:01:41 day okay take care Charles and and may
01:01:44 Yahweh bless you in your interview
01:01:51 [Laughter]
01:01:54 okay Ben you were starting to say
01:01:57 something about there’s five of us but
01:01:59 now there’s four no well now there’s
01:02:01 four
01:02:02 um but it’s all it starts in a small
01:02:04 play it starts small
01:02:07 what we have here
01:02:09 is definitely a mustard seed
01:02:17 but I start small and we have to believe
01:02:22 that God’s people will be drawn to his
01:02:25 ways
01:02:27 yeah his sheep will
01:02:30 cleave unto his place and his sheep will
01:02:33 come together
01:02:34 and unite through him and his ways not
01:02:40 through our own thinkings
01:02:42 um that’s why we go to the word but
01:02:45 anyways
01:02:47 um exactly
01:02:49 but but the point is but the point is
01:02:54 is that
01:02:56 every group that focuses on his ways
01:03:00 is a
01:03:02 is a seed that’s being planted
01:03:07 you have to my point is to illustrate
01:03:12 and we can see God at work
01:03:14 in small meetings like this
01:03:18 of people who are interested in
01:03:19 following his ways
01:03:21 we can see the beginnings we can see the
01:03:24 beginnings of the great Marvelous World
01:03:29 um
01:03:32 I think every cause I think everything
01:03:36 is greatly benefited
01:03:38 by Vision by a vision
01:03:40 of what can be accomplished
01:03:45 a vision and a hope
01:03:47 we have to have hope we have to believe
01:03:52 that God brings us together for a
01:03:53 purpose
01:03:55 and not just so that we can and not just
01:03:58 for the purpose of having Comfort which
01:04:00 is a comfort and uh communion which is
01:04:03 important
01:04:04 that’s very important
01:04:06 well I enjoy it the company yeah
01:04:11 but there but there’s but there are
01:04:15 but the purposes of God are alive and
01:04:17 vibrant even as the devil seems to be
01:04:20 growing and it because it’s easy to
01:04:24 forget
01:04:26 it’s it’s easy to forget while our
01:04:28 Gatherings are so small and the devil
01:04:31 seems to be holding more and more sway
01:04:33 over the Children of Men
01:04:36 that God is the will of God is alive and
01:04:39 it’s vibrant and it is active
01:04:44 and our choice
01:04:47 is actually simply to align our either
01:04:50 to align ourselves with it or to be
01:04:52 crushed by it
01:04:54 destroyed by it
01:04:57 do we have faith
01:04:59 Michael Grant do we have faith like
01:05:01 mustard soup
01:05:04 are we ready to become
01:05:06 greater
01:05:12 are we ready to become more than we are
01:05:19 it’s a good question
01:05:21 um something to ponder on yeah
01:05:24 definitely it’s something to ask
01:05:27 oneself
01:05:29 um
01:05:31 I think we all struggle at times with it
01:05:35 um
01:05:35 where other times
01:05:38 uh we get lots of encouragement so I I
01:05:40 don’t know even I I go back and forth
01:05:43 sometimes but
01:05:45 even though I go back and forth in times
01:05:48 I I do know
01:05:50 that I’m way further ahead than I was
01:05:55 uh a few years ago right
01:05:58 now I I get this I get the same I get
01:06:02 the uh I get that same thought as I come
01:06:06 to God In Prayer as I read the word
01:06:11 you know I think oftentimes
01:06:14 about
01:06:16 where I’ve been
01:06:19 what I’ve studied what I’ve looked into
01:06:22 versus where I am
01:06:24 and I can see the will of God uh
01:06:29 I can see the will of God being written
01:06:31 in my life
01:06:34 and
01:06:37 um
01:06:39 and I’m grateful that he takes the time
01:06:43 yeah yeah I I feel like he’s teaching me
01:06:48 and and trying me sometimes more than
01:06:51 more trying than I would like but I do
01:06:54 trust him so sometimes we’re in the
01:06:57 middle of it it can be a little
01:06:59 tricky and difficult but when you look
01:07:01 back you can see that sometimes when
01:07:04 you’re in the middle of it it makes you
01:07:05 want to throw things at walls
01:07:08 [Laughter]
01:07:10 well I I haven’t quite gotten that point
01:07:13 but
01:07:14 um maybe I I
01:07:17 Well everybody’s a little different
01:07:19 um but
01:07:20 yeah my temper my my temper tends to be
01:07:24 the kind that blows up really quick and
01:07:26 then subsides just as quickly for sure
01:07:29 everybody’s a little different
01:07:31 um I I’ve I’ve never been that way with
01:07:34 Yahweh myself
01:07:36 um but I I will say I have
01:07:39 been frustrated and wish things have
01:07:42 gone a different way but
01:07:45 um looking back I can definitely say
01:07:47 that his wisdom is greater than mine
01:07:49 that’s for sure oh for sure
01:07:52 but yeah
01:07:53 so I think that’s probably a good
01:07:56 stopping point on on this point yeah
01:07:59 um
01:08:00 and I I you know looking through this
01:08:04 together I I see some deeper meanings in
01:08:06 it that I didn’t before
01:08:09 um so I’m grateful for that
01:08:12 yeah this has been this has been this
01:08:15 has actually been quite fruitful
01:08:18 yeah so
01:08:19 um unless someone else has a question or
01:08:22 something they want to share I I have
01:08:23 something I I wouldn’t mind sharing
01:08:29 so
01:08:30 um this past week I had a little insight
01:08:33 uh from Yahweh about
01:08:38 um
01:08:38 justification and sanctification which
01:08:41 we see in in lots of places in
01:08:43 scriptures including second Nephi 32
01:08:45 right I don’t know 31 which then kind of
01:08:48 covers into 32. but anyways we’re the
01:08:51 path
01:08:52 so in the wedding Hebrew wedding
01:08:55 traditions
01:08:58 um when you get engaged it’s actually
01:09:01 considered marriage right
01:09:04 but you’re not together because then the
01:09:09 groom goes off and then goes prepares a
01:09:12 place for you for you to to be together
01:09:15 to live together right and then later
01:09:19 uh an unknown time actually
01:09:24 um the groom will come and get his bride
01:09:27 have the wedding festival and then go
01:09:30 take them back to
01:09:33 the house that he prepared right right
01:09:37 so ice to me I saw that
01:09:43 in reminiscence of justification
01:09:45 sanctification is Justified
01:09:49 we’re we become his and then the
01:09:52 question is do we stay his right right
01:09:54 but we don’t see him we’re not living
01:09:57 with him because in fact after that
01:10:00 engagement the groom goes away
01:10:04 to go prepare a place
01:10:07 or him and his bride to be together and
01:10:11 then when he comes back
01:10:13 and that’s when you go go be with him
01:10:16 and live with him and I see that as
01:10:18 sanctification so
01:10:19 Justified
01:10:22 you’re now you’re engaged
01:10:25 sanctification you’re now living with
01:10:27 him
01:10:28 what goes along with the wedding
01:10:30 traditions from
01:10:32 um Galilee
01:10:34 system so what you have is justification
01:10:37 followed by a testing period which
01:10:39 results in sanctification right yeah
01:10:42 because the the bride or the bride to be
01:10:46 has to you know stay true to the
01:10:48 covenants that yeah yeah she has to stay
01:10:50 the bride-to-be has to stay true to the
01:10:53 katuba even though she’s not getting the
01:10:55 benefits the full benefits of
01:11:00 of the wedding agreement those who don’t
01:11:03 know what that I can’t see
01:11:06 wrong anyway
01:11:09 yeah
01:11:11 she’s not getting the full benefits
01:11:13 right away of the wedding agreement or
01:11:16 katuba but she but she has to stay true
01:11:21 to her and
01:11:22 of the katuba I there’s so much
01:11:26 beautiful symbology in the Hebrew
01:11:28 wedding ceremonies
01:11:31 there are but anyways that was one
01:11:33 thought I uh I had this last week on
01:11:36 that and I think it it fits in very well
01:11:38 with justification and sanctification in
01:11:41 my mind
01:11:43 I agree yeah that actually is a really
01:11:45 nice fit it’s it’s a shame that uh
01:11:48 certain other people
01:11:49 couldn’t that some people couldn’t see
01:11:51 that and you just saw a silly and so saw
01:11:55 a silly tradition
01:11:56 uh yeah yeah but I I think the problem
01:12:01 is most the world are hellenists
01:12:04 yeah they just don’t know it
01:12:06 and the Hebrew scriptures are are
01:12:10 completely opposite than the hell in his
01:12:13 way of looking but anyway well you know
01:12:15 the interesting thing about the
01:12:16 Hellenistic mindset is that it’s
01:12:18 actually one of an incredible unbelief
01:12:22 oh yeah
01:12:24 um they they want it’s not about
01:12:26 believing it’s about so-called knowledge
01:12:28 facts
01:12:31 absolutes rather than principles
01:12:35 um
01:12:36 and way of living but anyways because
01:12:39 the Hellenistic way is about just do
01:12:41 what you want it’s you know
01:12:43 but they’re worried about the the facts
01:12:45 and figures rather than uh becoming but
01:12:48 yeah it’s a whole different way of
01:12:51 thinking but
01:12:55 um
01:12:56 it’s covered the whole world that’s why
01:12:59 the one that represents Greece turned
01:13:01 into a big blueberry because with the
01:13:03 big
01:13:04 blue
01:13:05 yep yep globe that we’re on but anyways
01:13:09 just to put a little shout out for my uh
01:13:15 thank you
01:13:18 sense but anyways that’s a whole other
01:13:19 issue but anyways that’s just one thing
01:13:22 I wanted to share uh that came to me
01:13:24 this week for well that’s well that well
01:13:27 thanks for sharing that that was uh that
01:13:28 was that was that was beautiful
01:13:31 yeah uh I was just uh doing work and
01:13:35 thinking about things and I just like oh
01:13:37 it just kind of clicked for me all of a
01:13:39 sudden like oh that makes complete sense
01:13:41 but anyways
01:13:43 um well there’s so many things that
01:13:45 actually make there’s so much about the
01:13:48 gospel that makes so much more sense
01:13:49 from a hebraic mindset
01:13:54 um to be honest I don’t think it makes
01:13:55 sense in Hellenistic mindset at all
01:13:58 let’s be honest
01:13:59 yeah because in that mindset there’s so
01:14:02 many contradictions in the scriptures
01:14:04 and The Parables and statements
01:14:07 but when you come from a huberic mindset
01:14:10 I I don’t see any contradictions in fact
01:14:14 you don’t believe me you can go read
01:14:16 tons of people I’ve written articles
01:14:19 about the contradictions in the Bible
01:14:21 now some of it’s translation and some of
01:14:24 it is just a Hellenistic mindset so
01:14:27 there’s a mixture of that but you don’t
01:14:31 believe me just just go do on your
01:14:33 favorite internet search search for
01:14:36 Bible contradictions yeah there’s tons
01:14:39 and some of them are just because of the
01:14:42 different way of seeing things
01:14:44 you know it’s it’s as simple as that but
01:14:48 anyways
01:14:50 well
01:14:52 well if there’s not a whole lot more
01:14:54 that anybody has to share I really feel
01:14:57 like the discussion we’ve had so far is
01:14:59 just
01:15:00 unfaith was really enlightening
01:15:03 sure well I I don’t know how much more I
01:15:05 have to add I’m honestly I’m kind of
01:15:08 tired
01:15:09 uh sure well if we want to do more on
01:15:11 faith the faith hope and charity is a
01:15:13 interesting subject that we can still
01:15:15 read on but if you’re too tired that’s
01:15:17 understandable but I don’t know if
01:15:19 Kesley or Zach have questions or want to
01:15:22 add anything or or if you guys still
01:15:24 want to stay on WE I’m happy just to
01:15:26 read somewhere or talk about other
01:15:28 things
01:15:29 yeah I can stay on for a little while
01:15:31 I’m single mothering it tonight so I
01:15:33 gotta leave in a little while and get
01:15:35 kids to bed but
01:15:36 sure I can stay for just a little longer
01:15:42 Zach do you have anything you want to
01:15:44 talk about or chair
01:15:48 um
01:15:55 oh what’s good
01:16:02 trying to think
01:16:11 oh you guys were
01:16:13 we were talking about
01:16:16 during the faith discussion you were
01:16:17 talking about
01:16:20 baptism for a bit
01:16:22 right yeah I did mention it uh briefly
01:16:26 okay
01:16:28 I’ve been wondering who
01:16:32 who in the world actually does have
01:16:33 authority to baptize
01:16:38 well
01:16:40 um that’s something you have to ask uh
01:16:43 Yahweh I do believe I have authority but
01:16:46 I I
01:16:49 believe and I believe I have authority
01:16:51 to baptize and I believe then
01:16:55 um but I I don’t have a certificate that
01:16:59 came down from heaven to show you you
01:17:01 know I have that Authority and I don’t
01:17:03 think Ben does either no
01:17:09 yeah all kinds of all all kinds of great
01:17:12 all kinds of great experiences and all
01:17:15 kinds of great
01:17:16 things but no certificates no
01:17:19 certificate yeah because there’s a lot
01:17:23 of people out there claiming it and you
01:17:25 have to go ask Yahweh who has it because
01:17:29 ultimately
01:17:31 he’s the one that decides not not some
01:17:34 big organization that says you can do it
01:17:38 or not because they don’t get to decide
01:17:42 that in fact on that point
01:17:44 um
01:17:46 uh in
01:17:49 the Lehigh are Lem highlights right that
01:17:53 are basically the noahites right yeah
01:17:58 um the recuperating the lights yes yeah
01:18:01 yeah
01:18:04 um the alumni Heights knew that Noah was
01:18:08 evil they just didn’t want to come out
01:18:11 and say though right but it’s
01:18:12 interesting
01:18:15 um they’re from Zenith who did have
01:18:18 authority from God or Yahweh it states
01:18:22 that in in
01:18:23 uh Alma 9 through 10. but one generation
01:18:30 they lost that Authority in fact even to
01:18:32 the point
01:18:34 um after Alma the Elder left them and we
01:18:37 can talk about that and we can go look
01:18:39 at Alma 18.
01:18:42 um
01:18:43 they even said we don’t have anybody
01:18:45 with authority to baptize us
01:18:49 and that is not three to four
01:18:51 generations removed that is one
01:18:55 and one or even less than one generation
01:18:58 removed right well it’s one generation
01:19:01 of wickedness can remove all authority
01:19:04 all right that’s
01:19:06 [Music]
01:19:06 um
01:19:09 ah
01:19:11 let me look at a note hold on one second
01:19:13 I I have this remnants of this in a post
01:19:17 I’m working on that I you’ve never heard
01:19:19 me say that
01:19:23 I’m horrible I do try to finish these
01:19:25 things but I I just sometimes I think I
01:19:28 try to put too much but at the same time
01:19:29 it’s all related so I don’t think it’s
01:19:31 too much why I’m working on it but when
01:19:34 it takes forever to get them done I
01:19:36 sometimes I do think it’s too much but
01:19:37 anyways
01:19:39 um let me I think it’s Alma 22.
01:19:44 um
01:19:53 but um in ml18 this one I do know and we
01:19:58 can look at this uh first if you want it
01:20:01 talks about how briefly really
01:20:04 slightly how Alma the Elder got
01:20:07 Authority
01:20:09 from God
01:20:12 you didn’t have it because he was in the
01:20:14 court of Noah because obviously Noah’s
01:20:16 Court was wicked and they would have
01:20:17 lost it all right uh was it DNC 121 Amen
01:20:20 to their priesthood
01:20:22 yes
01:20:25 and Mosaic 18 we can find the verse but
01:20:28 it
01:20:30 he got it from God in fact in uh Joseph
01:20:34 F Smith’s
01:20:36 doctrines of salvation this is a subject
01:20:40 in those if I remember correctly is and
01:20:43 this is where um
01:20:45 Brigham mites don’t like the ldsites
01:20:47 don’t like to talk about this is where
01:20:49 did Alma the elder get his priesthood
01:20:52 because
01:20:54 depending on what your answer is
01:20:57 uh it takes away the idea that the
01:21:01 Brigham lights have that the Catholics
01:21:03 plus lost their Authority though do you
01:21:05 ask me the Catholics never had Authority
01:21:08 um but James E Tallmadge teaches in his
01:21:11 great apostasy that they lost it
01:21:13 which to me is just another evidence
01:21:15 that he’s not who he claims to be
01:21:17 because they never had it in the first
01:21:19 place but anyways
01:21:21 um well yeah the the church had
01:21:24 apostatized long before the Catholic
01:21:26 church was officially organized correct
01:21:29 um
01:21:30 but
01:21:31 this the question of where Alma the
01:21:34 Elder got his priesthood is an
01:21:36 interesting one because
01:21:39 If he if it’s just gone by passed down
01:21:41 like uh pretty much everybody claims it
01:21:43 is
01:21:44 he got a passed down from a wicked
01:21:47 church so why not just Why didn’t Joseph
01:21:50 Smith just go joined the Catholic church
01:21:52 right and why didn’t Yeshua just joined
01:21:54 the Pharisees or the Sadducees because I
01:21:57 mean they’re a bigger Church you would
01:21:58 have been able to do more good quote
01:22:00 unquote right why did John the Baptist
01:22:03 rest the authority away from the uh away
01:22:05 from the Pharisees and Sadducees
01:22:08 right that’s actually Doctrine and
01:22:09 Covenants 84.
01:22:11 um so anyways it
01:22:14 the question of where Alma the Elder got
01:22:17 his authority is actually a real big
01:22:20 question and
01:22:22 on the excuse me
01:22:25 um well I’m trying to talk and find that
01:22:29 scripture I’ll give you a resource piece
01:22:33 that tells you how he got his authority
01:22:36 um
01:22:38 by the voice of God
01:22:41 um so maybe while I’m looking if someone
01:22:44 wants to read you guys can someone can
01:22:47 read these out loud
01:22:49 it’s fun looking for these other ones
01:22:51 Melchizedek priesthood is given by Elvis
01:22:53 on voice not by the lane on opinions
01:22:57 all the prophets had in the Melchizedek
01:22:59 priesthood and were ordained by God
01:23:00 himself Joseph Smith
01:23:02 teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith
01:23:04 818. or nephil 1121 and the Lord said
01:23:08 unto him I give unto you power that you
01:23:10 shall baptize his people when I am again
01:23:12 ascended on into heaven
01:23:16 35 11 22 and again the Lord called
01:23:19 others and said unto them likewise and
01:23:21 he gave unto them power to baptize and
01:23:23 he said unto them on this why shall he
01:23:24 baptize there shall be no disputations
01:23:27 among you
01:23:29 Alma and he began to teach the people in
01:23:32 the land of milk according to the holy
01:23:34 border of God by which he had been
01:23:37 called and he began to teach the people
01:23:40 throughout all the land
01:23:43 Doctrine covenants 8442 and well to all
01:23:46 those who come not onto this priesthood
01:23:48 which ye have received which I now
01:23:51 confirm upon you who are present this
01:23:53 day by mine own voice out of the heavens
01:23:57 that that’s by my own voice
01:24:01 yeah
01:24:02 and even I have given you and even I
01:24:06 have given the Heavenly boasts of mine
01:24:07 Angels charge concerning them
01:24:09 God will not acknowledge that he that
01:24:12 which he has not called ordained and
01:24:15 chosen
01:24:16 in the beginning God called Adam by his
01:24:19 own voice
01:24:20 and the Lord called unto Adam and said
01:24:22 unto him where are and he said I heard
01:24:25 thy voice in the garden and I was afraid
01:24:27 because I was naked and hid myself
01:24:29 Adam received Commandments and
01:24:31 instructions from God this was the order
01:24:33 from the beginning
01:24:36 okay
01:24:38 was there one of was there one above
01:24:41 Genesis 14 I think that’s one you read
01:24:43 okay yeah that’s just the one Aaron okay
01:24:45 never mind uh like I said I’m starting
01:24:48 to get tired oh that’s fine
01:24:51 Joseph Smith translation Genesis 14 26.
01:24:55 29.
01:24:57 now Melchizedek was a man of Faith who
01:25:00 wrought righteousness and when a child
01:25:01 be feared God and stopped the mouths of
01:25:04 lions and quenched the violence of Fire
01:25:08 and thus having been approved of God he
01:25:10 was ordained and high priest after the
01:25:13 order of the Covenant which God made
01:25:14 with Enoch
01:25:16 and it being after the order of the Son
01:25:18 of God which order came not by man nor
01:25:21 the will of Ben neither by father nor
01:25:23 mother neither by beginning of days nor
01:25:25 end of years but of God and it was
01:25:28 delivered unto Men by The Calling of his
01:25:30 own voice according to his own will unto
01:25:34 his many as believed on his name
01:25:37 as we behold the keys of this priesthood
01:25:39 consisted in obtaining the voice of
01:25:41 Jehovah
01:25:43 that he talked with him
01:25:46 Noah in familiar and friendly Manner and
01:25:49 he continued
01:25:51 to him the keys the covenants the power
01:25:54 and the glory with which he blessed Adam
01:25:56 okay
01:25:58 and he heard a voice out of Heaven Moses
01:26:01 6 66-67 he heard a voice out of Heaven
01:26:04 saying Thou Art baptized with fire and
01:26:06 with the Holy Ghost this is a record of
01:26:09 the father and the son from henceforth
01:26:10 and forever
01:26:13 and now right after the order of him who
01:26:15 was without beginning of days or end of
01:26:17 years
01:26:18 from all eternity to all eternity
01:26:22 so this one might not be as clear but a
01:26:25 voice out of heaven and then Thou after
01:26:27 the order AKA priesthood right
01:26:29 [Music]
01:26:31 so he’s getting baptized with fire in
01:26:33 the Holy Ghost and being and having the
01:26:35 priesthood confirmed upon him yeah at
01:26:38 the same time
01:26:41 for all those who uh
01:26:44 for all those who want to believe in uh
01:26:48 orders in orders of Ascension they don’t
01:26:52 yeah that’s new ways it speaks openly
01:26:55 against that this speaks openly against
01:26:57 that it can happen all at once right
01:26:59 yeah like it right there right
01:27:02 and my favorite one for that is there’s
01:27:05 no steps to the always altar
01:27:08 there may be a ramp yeah it’s a ramp but
01:27:11 there are no steps yeah because these
01:27:15 new agers they claim step or stages
01:27:19 but if there was our nakedness would be
01:27:23 uncovered
01:27:24 but it’s not and so it won’t be in other
01:27:28 words our shame would be exposed
01:27:31 exactly yeah the nakedness shame yeah if
01:27:36 there was steps as people claim and I
01:27:39 found and I found that a lot of these
01:27:41 people who claim steps end up having
01:27:43 their shame exposed
01:27:46 yeah because they’re
01:27:49 they’re going about it the wrong way and
01:27:52 they’re they’re not on
01:27:54 you always ramp
01:27:56 but that’s right
01:27:59 I’ll read the last one wasaiah 23 17 and
01:28:02 it came to pass that none received
01:28:04 authority to preach or to teach except
01:28:06 it were by him from Yahweh
01:28:10 Elohim sorry wrong substitution Elohim
01:28:13 therefore he consecrated all their
01:28:16 priests and all their teachers and none
01:28:18 were consecrated except that were just
01:28:20 men
01:28:22 so a lot of these that falls along the
01:28:26 lines of none worked and miracles say
01:28:28 they were cleaned every witness from sin
01:28:33 um well
01:28:36 teach preacher teach I this isn’t
01:28:39 Miracles but
01:28:41 um
01:28:42 I I I see that a little different but we
01:28:46 can go
01:28:46 anyways oh I I can see what you’re
01:28:50 saying
01:28:51 but um
01:28:53 I’m talking about the last bit here none
01:28:56 were consecrated except they were just
01:28:58 men
01:28:59 oh yeah yeah that last part yes uh that
01:29:02 connection I’m not necessarily referring
01:29:04 to that front part I’m talking looking
01:29:06 at the last part
01:29:08 okay and that makes more sense because
01:29:10 that does connect to that verse about
01:29:11 miracles that I bring out from The Book
01:29:13 of Mormon right
01:29:15 um but anyways I found the verses in
01:29:17 mosiah that I wanted about the baptism
01:29:19 so okay
01:29:23 let’s go there because this
01:29:27 so this is from a post that I haven’t
01:29:30 finished but
01:29:34 I never hear me say that
01:29:36 I do try
01:29:38 I really do yeah um
01:29:41 but life happens but as you see on these
01:29:45 studies together when it comes up I
01:29:48 share it right it’s not like
01:29:52 um so but this is mosiah 21. this is
01:29:55 with the limp highlights right the
01:30:00 basically the no ice that
01:30:03 um
01:30:04 without Noah
01:30:05 because they they can’t they haven’t
01:30:07 really let go of them yet but anyways
01:30:09 but
01:30:10 they don’t have they acknowledge they
01:30:13 don’t have
01:30:14 the priesthood and there was um Gideon
01:30:17 who came from
01:30:20 um
01:30:21 Sarah Hemlock he didn’t have the
01:30:23 authority either either which
01:30:26 and to be all honest
01:30:28 the Noah Heights slash lemon highlights
01:30:31 in my mind are the brighamites and
01:30:35 Gideon who stayed in that group stayed
01:30:38 in zarahema instead of leaving that area
01:30:41 right
01:30:42 Our Community of Christ Our LDS
01:30:45 Community of Christ so even though she’s
01:30:48 the one that stayed behind became to
01:30:51 come you know kind of help him no more
01:30:53 truth
01:30:55 um
01:30:56 they didn’t have the authority either
01:30:58 anyways but let’s read this
01:31:01 yay they did mourn for their departure
01:31:04 I was talking about Alma the Elder here
01:31:06 for they knew not whether they had blood
01:31:08 now they would have gladly joined with
01:31:11 them for themselves
01:31:13 uh in current state though but in the
01:31:16 past I don’t think so because Alma was
01:31:19 trying to teach the people and they
01:31:20 didn’t want to accept it then for they
01:31:22 themselves have entered into a covenant
01:31:24 with Elohim to serve him and keep his
01:31:26 Commandments well this is only after
01:31:28 being humbled by having three quarters
01:31:31 of the men destroyed uh yeah and other
01:31:35 other things going on right because they
01:31:38 stayed behind and they got persecuted
01:31:40 more from the lamanites and so yeah they
01:31:43 were compelled to be humble and and uh
01:31:45 at compelling to be humble had worked
01:31:48 and that they had entered into a
01:31:49 covenant with them right which goes
01:31:51 along with Alma 32. the important thing
01:31:54 is they humbled right now the question
01:31:57 next is do they endure but and this that
01:32:00 goes along with how I’m saying uh they
01:32:03 would have gotten generally gone with
01:32:04 them as they are now not as one Alma was
01:32:09 actually preaching right they’ve changed
01:32:11 they’ve humbled since then but anyways
01:32:14 and they had entered into a covenant
01:32:16 with Elohim
01:32:18 to serve him and keep his Commandments
01:32:21 now baptism is a witness of that
01:32:24 you unlike what the eldest church and
01:32:27 other restoration churches teach that
01:32:30 baptism is a covenant no it is a witness
01:32:33 and after we read these little things we
01:32:35 can look at mosiah 18 it states that in
01:32:38 other places
01:32:39 but I don’t get too sidetracked and now
01:32:42 since the coming of Ammon
01:32:44 King lemhai also entered into a covenant
01:32:48 with Elohim
01:32:50 and also many of his people to serve him
01:32:54 Elohim and keep his Commandments and it
01:32:57 came to pass that King lemi and many of
01:32:59 his people were desirous to be baptized
01:33:02 so look they entered the Covenant now
01:33:05 they want to be baptized
01:33:07 and baptism is a witness of that
01:33:10 Covenant it’s not the Covenant
01:33:12 but none was but there was none in the
01:33:16 land that had Authority from Elohim but
01:33:19 wait a minute
01:33:22 isn’t them in there
01:33:24 yeah
01:33:26 yeah
01:33:27 and and Gideon
01:33:30 um was it Gideon or anyways now Gideon
01:33:33 was the yeah
01:33:36 um but that’s interesting right
01:33:39 they’re not even one generation removed
01:33:42 Ammon declined doing this thing
01:33:45 considering himself an unworthy servant
01:33:47 I was maybe I’m getting abundant and
01:33:49 getting in yeah it’s adamant declined to
01:33:52 do this thing considering himself an
01:33:53 unworthy servant therefore they did not
01:33:55 at that time
01:33:57 form themselves into a church waiting
01:34:00 upon the spirit of the Lord now they
01:34:02 were desirous to become even as hell man
01:34:04 and his brother who had fled Into the
01:34:05 Wilderness they were desirous to be
01:34:07 baptized as a witness and a testimony
01:34:08 they were willing to yeah and here’s
01:34:11 your uh here’s a computer programming
01:34:12 thing coming out here server God with
01:34:15 all their
01:34:18 well no that’s not that’s me that’s yeah
01:34:22 because when I caps it I’m doing that by
01:34:25 hand and I made a mistake
01:34:27 but maybe I was thinking server because
01:34:29 of my computer programming right there
01:34:31 you go
01:34:34 they were willing to serve God with all
01:34:37 their hearts nevertheless they did
01:34:39 prolong the time
01:34:41 and then account of their baptism shall
01:34:43 be given Hereafter okay so we’ll look at
01:34:46 that in a minute but
01:34:48 they entered into the Covenant now if
01:34:50 they had died before they found Amma the
01:34:54 Elder because that’s actually who
01:34:55 baptizes them later
01:34:56 would they go to the kingdom of heaven
01:34:59 I believe so
01:35:02 because they were they did what they
01:35:04 could do
01:35:07 and they were desirous to to be baptized
01:35:10 but they didn’t have someone that
01:35:12 could do it
01:35:14 and so there’s this debate whether
01:35:17 baptism righteously prolonged the time
01:35:21 right until they found someone who
01:35:25 um Yahweh Elohim uh authorized to do it
01:35:29 so there’s this debate right in the
01:35:32 Christian world is baptism necessary for
01:35:36 salvation
01:35:37 I think this actually States
01:35:40 no
01:35:42 absolutely no but yes if there’s someone
01:35:46 around that can do it
01:35:52 and so it’s not so clear-cut as a lot of
01:35:55 people try to make it
01:35:57 um
01:35:58 because if you really covenanted with
01:36:01 Yahweh
01:36:02 you would want to have and this is just
01:36:05 it’s just Mo this is this makes it quite
01:36:08 clear that they had entered into
01:36:10 Covenant yeah they entered in the
01:36:12 Covenant and the Covenant is
01:36:14 the most important thing but also here
01:36:17 they said they didn’t start a church
01:36:19 because they didn’t have something that
01:36:20 had that Authority right
01:36:22 so they weren’t formally organized
01:36:26 but I do believe they would still be
01:36:29 considered yahweh’s people
01:36:31 because they made that Covenant so the
01:36:34 idea though that why the I guess I’m
01:36:40 uh they were already formed into a
01:36:42 church and that’s why they were told to
01:36:44 preach nothing say that be repentance no
01:36:46 that’s later right here it just we just
01:36:48 read how they yeah
01:36:51 without telling without giving you a
01:36:53 segue he’s gone to the early church yes
01:36:56 sorry
01:36:58 oh uh like with Joseph Smith yes yes
01:37:01 where it states in the Doctrine and
01:37:03 Covenants the Commandment that we are to
01:37:05 teach nothing say but be repentance and
01:37:09 baptism oh right right yeah so baptism
01:37:13 is still
01:37:15 is still a salvific
01:37:17 ordinance that
01:37:20 I guess
01:37:21 it must be performed if the authority is
01:37:25 there I guess yeah that’s what I’m
01:37:27 saying if
01:37:28 he
01:37:29 if you make the Covenant and there’s
01:37:31 someone there that can perform the
01:37:33 witness the baptism right you need to do
01:37:37 it but if no one’s around
01:37:39 that can do it
01:37:41 okay wait until you find someone that
01:37:44 you believe Yahweh has told you that has
01:37:46 that Authority
01:37:51 because here they they just just go do
01:37:53 it themselves because right right
01:37:56 yeah
01:37:58 they didn’t relocate the Waters of
01:38:00 Mormon and have and just go have a
01:38:03 dunking part
01:38:07 um yeah I don’t know if I’d say it that
01:38:09 way but yeah
01:38:11 um they recognized that they couldn’t
01:38:13 just go out and do it
01:38:14 um
01:38:15 but it’s interesting I’m the Elder
01:38:18 he was just Wicked right but he repented
01:38:20 he really repented and has started
01:38:23 teaching really taught the Commandments
01:38:25 and he got Authority from Yahweh to do
01:38:28 so in fact
01:38:31 um
01:38:32 later chapters
01:38:35 um we can go find it if you want but
01:38:37 um when there was problems within the
01:38:40 church right in fact
01:38:42 this example even goes off of how
01:38:46 um how there’s two courts I’ve mentioned
01:38:48 in the recording about stoning right I
01:38:51 mentioned how there’s two courts yeah
01:38:53 this example with Alma the Elder and um
01:38:58 the king shows two chords
01:39:01 right
01:39:02 yeah
01:39:04 yeah one for the church and one for the
01:39:05 state
01:39:07 and the one in the DNC is about the
01:39:09 church and all the one that the all the
01:39:12 authority that the one in the church has
01:39:14 is to either
01:39:16 kick somebody out
01:39:19 or not well and then try to correct them
01:39:21 right so it’s it’s right it’s more than
01:39:23 just
01:39:24 correctly ultimately that’s all they can
01:39:27 do right but they try to be more than
01:39:29 just kick them out right they try to
01:39:32 correct them and help them but yeah
01:39:35 I’m over I’m overly simplifying right
01:39:38 right but I’m just going back to that
01:39:41 example there’s the two courts right
01:39:44 even in the Book of Mormon but anyways
01:39:46 because I mentioned how the two courts
01:39:48 um and I
01:39:50 I I don’t think I mentioned that example
01:39:53 in that recording but anyways
01:39:56 um
01:39:57 but at the same time the main thing with
01:39:59 that example going with this discussion
01:40:02 is that during that time when Alma the
01:40:06 Elder was praying to figure out what to
01:40:07 do Yahweh told him it was good that you
01:40:11 created that church now if he didn’t
01:40:13 have authority that would have not been
01:40:15 a good thing
01:40:18 right because he would have been
01:40:21 um horse before the court as an English
01:40:23 idiom right nope
01:40:26 yeah it’s hard for the horse to push the
01:40:28 carp the pulling that’s pretty easy for
01:40:30 him right
01:40:32 or is it a court or the court before the
01:40:35 horse maybe I said anyway he put the
01:40:37 cart before the cart before the horse
01:40:39 that’s
01:40:40 um yeah so if you put the cart before
01:40:42 the horse the horse can’t move it
01:40:44 but if you put the car if you put the
01:40:46 horse before the cart and the horse can
01:40:48 pull the car
01:40:49 right so um anyways but in mosiah 25 it
01:40:53 talks about how
01:40:54 um this group that we just read in
01:40:57 uh mosiah 21 then get are getting
01:41:01 baptized by Alma the Elder right which
01:41:04 is also an interesting point
01:41:07 um here’s
01:41:10 um
01:41:10 also shows how when churches are
01:41:13 actually from Elohim instead of having a
01:41:17 court of churches which I see happening
01:41:18 in the restoration right
01:41:21 they don’t have courts
01:41:23 or Assemblies of churches they have they
01:41:26 join into one Church
01:41:28 um
01:41:29 right because I
01:41:33 there can be multiple
01:41:35 churches around the world multiple
01:41:39 languages
01:41:41 well it can act I could even say
01:41:43 churches because initially all of the
01:41:46 elders Church didn’t know about
01:41:48 um King Benjamin’s church right right
01:41:51 but when they found out they didn’t say
01:41:54 okay you have your church and your
01:41:55 leadership and I’ll have my church and
01:41:57 my leadership
01:41:58 as which goes on in the restoration
01:42:00 right now but instead they became one
01:42:04 United
01:42:07 even that goes against what
01:42:08 restorationists do today that’s true
01:42:11 This Book of Mormon
01:42:14 condemns most of the restoration sorry
01:42:16 it really does most
01:42:19 condemns all of them
01:42:21 I hope it doesn’t condemn me I I hope I
01:42:23 learned from it and actually do well
01:42:25 yeah no so yeah yeah on an individual
01:42:28 basis you may not be condemned well and
01:42:31 we can go read DNC one on this right
01:42:33 right collectively versus individually
01:42:36 but anyways
01:42:38 um I I did say most on purpose because I
01:42:41 do think we are trying
01:42:43 um yeah but maybe unbiased but anyways
01:42:48 um but on this
01:42:51 um so they joined but then Alma the
01:42:54 younger I mean Elder when they came and
01:42:57 found him he baptized them
01:43:00 now if they would have died in between
01:43:02 that little period
01:43:05 would they have gone to hell
01:43:08 I don’t believe so because they made the
01:43:09 Covenant they may not been able to
01:43:11 organize a church
01:43:14 at that time right as mentioned to
01:43:17 strengthen themselves in their keeping
01:43:19 of the Covenant
01:43:21 but oh they could have done that they
01:43:23 could have done that on an individual
01:43:25 basis uh yeah I so church is more
01:43:28 structured with leaders right
01:43:31 um and despite what some restoration
01:43:33 will say in in
01:43:36 Zion there will be leaders yes there
01:43:39 will be teachers
01:43:42 um
01:43:43 but some think there will not be that’s
01:43:47 just because
01:43:49 you know what Yahweh doesn’t mean you
01:43:51 know everything that he wants and does
01:43:54 in fact
01:43:55 I
01:43:57 most of the restorationists believe that
01:44:00 Joseph Smith knew and saw Yahweh
01:44:03 but Joseph Smith did not restore
01:44:05 everything
01:44:09 as in going to my point
01:44:11 just because we’re in Zion and we know
01:44:14 Yahweh doesn’t mean we know everything
01:44:16 if Joseph Smith
01:44:19 if knowing Yahweh means we know
01:44:21 everything why didn’t Joseph Smith
01:44:22 restore everything
01:44:24 because he didn’t know everything and
01:44:26 knowing Yahweh doesn’t mean you’re going
01:44:28 to know everything it was not in God’s
01:44:30 purpose for him to restore everything
01:44:31 correct there’s that also but I’m more
01:44:34 getting to the point just because you
01:44:35 know what Yahweh does yeah I mean you
01:44:37 know everything that’s why I figured
01:44:39 everything out and so there still need
01:44:42 to be teachers
01:44:44 and Priests for anything because you
01:44:47 know those animal sacrifices are coming
01:44:49 back
01:44:51 and leaders
01:44:54 those are eternal
01:44:56 I believe they’ll be in heaven too to be
01:44:58 honest but anyways
01:45:00 um
01:45:01 yeah
01:45:02 so
01:45:04 um now let’s go
01:45:09 so mosiah 18 uh this is probably not the
01:45:13 one that talked about how Alma the Elder
01:45:15 has Authority because he prays and God
01:45:18 grants it right I do believe he prayed
01:45:21 before this getting the authority but
01:45:23 anyways but let’s just look at this one
01:45:26 because this one talks about how baptism
01:45:28 is a witness of a covenant already
01:45:30 entered
01:45:32 as I 18 10. now I say unto you
01:45:35 if this be desire of your heart what
01:45:38 have you against being baptized in the
01:45:40 name of Yahweh as a witness
01:45:44 and we can go look at the word witness
01:45:46 before him that you have entered into a
01:45:49 covenant with him that ye will serve him
01:45:52 and keep his Commandments that you may
01:45:54 that he may pour out his Spirit more
01:45:57 abundantly upon you so
01:46:00 um at least eldest Church teaches that
01:46:03 you can’t have a spirit abundantly till
01:46:05 after you’re baptized but here is
01:46:08 stating you can have it abundantly
01:46:09 before you’re baptized by stating that
01:46:13 once you’re baptized you can have it
01:46:14 more abundantly
01:46:17 you can have something more of what you
01:46:19 don’t already have
01:46:22 so but anyways yep um
01:46:25 it’s just simple English sure and so
01:46:30 yeah it is but sometimes when you have
01:46:33 these false Traditions it it’s helpful
01:46:36 to have some people point it out right
01:46:37 yeah but I agree it is simple English
01:46:40 but we all have false traditions we read
01:46:43 well past
01:46:45 just the simple English so I’ve done it
01:46:47 and we all missed them and we missed the
01:46:49 March oh yeah I I didn’t see this
01:46:52 growing up in the church it was
01:46:55 um
01:46:56 after I I left and was studying that I
01:46:59 actually saw that and read it right but
01:47:01 anyways so
01:47:04 um
01:47:05 let’s go to Kindle and there’s I don’t
01:47:08 remember it’s first so you guys will
01:47:10 have to help me find it
01:47:11 but in Mosaic 18 I think oh just before
01:47:16 that first that last one we looked at
01:47:20 10.
01:47:22 um it talks about
01:47:24 Alma praying beforehand wherefore
01:47:28 dwelt in captivity all boy and
01:47:31 I need to figure out how to turn that
01:47:32 off because it’s just it’s just there
01:47:35 were four more on uh dualton in
01:47:37 captivity
01:47:49 and that commentary yes it’s legendary
01:47:53 isn’t it it’s legendary it’s something
01:47:56 that’s for sure
01:48:01 oh okay
01:48:03 okay
01:48:06 we got 18 verse one but Alma who had
01:48:11 fled from the Servants of King no or
01:48:13 repented of his sins and iniquities
01:48:17 I went about privately among the people
01:48:19 and began to teach the words of the
01:48:21 Benedict
01:48:24 okay and so that’s that’s there’s the
01:48:27 beginning of Alma the bauma’s repentance
01:48:31 I’m talking privately
01:48:33 knowledge of the king that’s verse three
01:48:38 a little bit
01:48:40 okay so one the one that I’m thinking of
01:48:44 uh there might be others but the one I
01:48:46 think I’m serious verse 12.
01:48:48 um and just hindsight right now
01:48:52 I think this is more along the lines of
01:48:55 prey before you do things which
01:48:58 I’m I I know I need to get better at
01:49:02 doing but I’ll just read it and now it
01:49:05 came to pass that Alma took human he
01:49:08 being one of the first and went and
01:49:11 stood forth in the water and cried
01:49:13 saying oh Lord pour out thy Spirit upon
01:49:16 thy servant aka me all right
01:49:20 that he may do this work according
01:49:23 Holiness of heart
01:49:25 and when he said these words the spirit
01:49:28 of Yahweh Came Upon him and he said
01:49:30 elaman I baptize thee Okay so
01:49:34 uh
01:49:37 and when he said these words like the
01:49:39 spirit it seems like it’s stating that
01:49:40 the spirit of the Lord coming upon him
01:49:42 was his authority uh yeah I so it’s
01:49:46 maybe the one I wanted was 13. but I do
01:49:50 tend to believe that he got the
01:49:52 authority before this but this was just
01:49:54 kind of confirming it
01:49:56 um but I’d have to read the account
01:49:59 again I think this is the one I’m
01:50:00 looking for
01:50:02 um but just looking at right now I think
01:50:04 this is a confirmation of what had
01:50:06 happened before but you can see here the
01:50:09 spirit of Yahweh was upon him
01:50:12 and that
01:50:15 um
01:50:15 I believe it connects to how the spirit
01:50:19 of Yahweh was on Moses and Torah and
01:50:22 Moses had the authorities right
01:50:24 I think it’s going back onto that image
01:50:27 imagery yeah I yeah I can see yeah I can
01:50:31 see that
01:50:33 yeah it’s not the first time that
01:50:36 the words the spirit of the Lord was
01:50:39 upon him and he had God’s Authority our
01:50:42 use synonymously
01:50:44 right
01:50:46 um
01:50:47 but I’d have to reread the chapter I I
01:50:50 don’t think there’s another verse in
01:50:52 here I don’t know if you want to look
01:50:53 real quick that talks about this issue
01:50:56 but I think the
01:50:58 the priesthood by the voice that we read
01:51:01 earlier would I think kind of goes along
01:51:03 with the main point
01:51:05 of who has Authority
01:51:08 um you
01:51:10 got to ask Yahweh because he’s the one
01:51:12 that gives a
01:51:14 [Music]
01:51:16 and I’ll be honest I don’t think he has
01:51:22 a big congregation I I do believe he has
01:51:25 wheat among the tears out there right
01:51:28 now
01:51:29 yeah I mean um field is full of tears
01:51:33 yeah
01:51:34 um
01:51:35 well I think there’s I think there’s a
01:51:37 lot more tears than wheat but anyways
01:51:40 um and I think the fact that Yeshua said
01:51:42 few will find the way and confirms that
01:51:45 [Music]
01:51:45 um
01:51:47 but I
01:51:50 I but I do believe that few is relative
01:51:53 few as opposed to
01:51:55 Absolute simple
01:51:57 pew
01:51:59 I think it’s relative to you when you
01:52:01 consider the oh bye Kelsey okay see you
01:52:06 guys thanks
01:52:10 so
01:52:13 um when will you consider that
01:52:17 there are
01:52:19 7.6
01:52:21 well we’ll just round up to eight
01:52:23 billion people in the world right now if
01:52:25 you can be a pretty big number
01:52:28 uh that’s true that’s true I mean think
01:52:31 about it this way our little group is
01:52:35 literally all over the world you’re in
01:52:37 Argentina Charles is in Africa
01:52:41 in Uganda
01:52:43 we’re in the state and we’re in Waco
01:52:46 Texas we’re in Waco Texas and Zach’s
01:52:48 been we’re in uh what was it Connecticut
01:52:50 my guy
01:52:51 all right so we’re all over Arizona
01:52:55 we’re all looking at Kelsey’s in Arizona
01:52:57 yeah
01:52:59 a wide spread out congregation
01:53:04 so I’m gonna pause for a minute
01:53:13 uh
01:53:14 yeah so let’s go look yes
01:53:20 where the reduces more capacitors ones
01:53:24 it’s like close to the bottom okay
01:53:27 yeah I don’t do Mr friendly called Mark
01:53:30 pass yeah yes psyops
01:53:33 I’m familiar with Cyclops
01:53:36 um
01:53:38 like that’s happening a lot today right
01:53:41 yeah yeah
01:53:43 you can’t really you can’t really
01:53:45 believe you can’t really believe
01:53:47 anything you’d see me
01:53:51 well here in the team is definitely
01:53:54 called I was watching that today
01:53:56 in the um
01:53:59 we’re close to the end of his
01:54:02 you know he thinks he thinks of himself
01:54:04 as like a light boost Varian
01:54:08 type of thing
01:54:09 uh is that him right there yeah yeah
01:54:14 Antichrist uh
01:54:16 I’m not familiar with that one
01:54:18 um he may
01:54:21 um I love the Crowley he may look up to
01:54:23 Aleister Crowley right
01:54:25 um yeah well the if he’s talking about
01:54:27 the great work he looks up to Aleister
01:54:29 Crowley
01:54:30 yeah
01:54:31 um
01:54:33 I only listen to him because like he
01:54:35 exposes to saying this and stuff well
01:54:38 you see people like Mark
01:54:41 are allowed to do what they do because
01:54:44 these people have to disclose they’re
01:54:48 they we they have to disclose what
01:54:51 they’re doing
01:54:52 yeah uh before or as they’re doing it
01:54:58 so he and so he’s actually so he’s
01:55:00 actually in terms of what they’re doing
01:55:03 he’s actually a good source of
01:55:04 information
01:55:06 but I wouldn’t uh I would not put my
01:55:09 trust and faith in him but he’s a good
01:55:11 source of information as to what they’re
01:55:12 doing to her and take it with a grain of
01:55:14 salt though right because he’s not going
01:55:17 to tell you the absolute truth he’s
01:55:18 going to uh he’s going to fabricate
01:55:22 um on one level or another well and then
01:55:24 he’s going to use the code of language
01:55:26 to make it more specific and the more
01:55:28 specific they get about things the more
01:55:30 you know that they’re lying foreign
01:55:35 and maybe what he’s also doing because I
01:55:39 was to Crowley and his teacher who was a
01:55:42 woman I don’t remember her name I
01:55:43 thought my name head right now
01:55:46 um but they called The New Age out and
01:55:49 say why don’t you be honest about where
01:55:51 you’re getting these teachings at AKA us
01:55:53 which is Alice Bailey Aleister Crowley
01:55:56 and Alice Bailey is that I don’t
01:55:59 remember the woman’s name it was Alex
01:56:01 Bailey okay
01:56:03 um but they called out new age and say
01:56:06 why don’t you be honest about where this
01:56:07 stuff is coming from
01:56:09 I think part of this because they wanted
01:56:13 um and they wanted more direct followers
01:56:15 than what was going on but not only that
01:56:18 but then they couldn’t sell their books
01:56:20 right right but Mark may be doing
01:56:22 somewhat of the same thing maybe that
01:56:26 he’s
01:56:27 calling things out and saying what it
01:56:29 really is like this is what it is stop
01:56:32 pretending it’s something less than that
01:56:34 or different yeah yeah because these
01:56:37 because yeah because he actually
01:56:41 um I know uh he he has that he has that
01:56:44 look of somebody who’s definitely deeply
01:56:47 Who’s involved in it
01:56:50 uh yeah his face just looks
01:56:55 off to me speaks of it speaks of
01:56:58 mysteries yeah
01:57:00 um I I’ve
01:57:02 I can’t explain it but I’ve
01:57:06 I’ve seen some people’s
01:57:08 at least to me their faces look like
01:57:12 oh I think I’ve seen part of this one
01:57:14 right here
01:57:16 yeah just to remember his name
01:57:19 um but I’ve
01:57:21 to me when people keep the law or break
01:57:25 the law especially intentionally over a
01:57:28 long periods of time to me it seems like
01:57:30 their faces
01:57:33 their complexion change
01:57:37 um I I
01:57:41 yeah I mean you could maybe get some
01:57:44 scriptures off of that but I
01:57:46 it’s just a little tendency that I see
01:57:49 in some people not all okay but anyways
01:57:54 then his face kind of looks that way
01:57:58 especially that one all right anyways
01:58:02 it’s not hard science for lack of a
01:58:04 better word though
01:58:07 yeah it speaks and there
01:58:11 there’s there’s uh there’s the darkness
01:58:13 on it
01:58:16 yeah especially look at the shirt he’s
01:58:18 wearing but anyways
01:58:20 well of course not true
01:58:22 which uh kind of reminds me the
01:58:24 Pharisees what are they always wearing
01:58:26 black
01:58:27 right
01:58:29 yeah
01:58:30 um there’s a Messianic that I don’t like
01:58:33 um
01:58:34 is a famous One
01:58:37 um
01:58:49 well he doesn’t know the scriptures
01:58:52 yeah I I just a lot of people in the
01:58:55 Messianic community
01:58:58 love him I don’t
01:59:00 I I don’t like him
01:59:03 um
01:59:04 I I I think it was this book I got
01:59:07 because someone recommended it before I
01:59:10 I knew more and I’ve read some of it and
01:59:12 some of it’s nice but just the fact the
01:59:14 book of mysteries I mean you should be
01:59:16 focusing on the law not for Mysteries
01:59:18 but
01:59:20 um he’s always wearing black and some of
01:59:22 his teachings are just anyways I I don’t
01:59:25 like them
01:59:27 um
01:59:29 the at the very least he doesn’t know
01:59:32 the law
01:59:33 no he just I don’t know why he’s so
01:59:36 popular probably because the powers
01:59:39 right because he teaches because he
01:59:40 teaches the law because he teaches the
01:59:42 Lawless law of Christ yeah and I think
01:59:47 he’s Buddy Christ
01:59:49 yeah you think the messianics would be a
01:59:53 little more careful like that but no no
01:59:55 that’s the thing is they jump from one
01:59:58 deception yeah and I’m just going to
02:00:01 correct myself in saying that because
02:00:02 messianics they still believe that false
02:00:04 representative Orthodox so I mean the
02:00:08 Hebrew readers do too but anyways yeah
02:00:11 well the thing is is that they oh well
02:00:16 and the other thing is is that they
02:00:18 firmly believe that everybody who
02:00:20 doesn’t believe in those things is not
02:00:23 rooted and true well they think that you
02:00:26 need to know them to be saved and that’s
02:00:29 awesome and I think that that’s a reason
02:00:31 I think that’s ridiculous that’s
02:00:33 absolutely non-scriptural oh I agree but
02:00:36 that’s it’s gnosticism it’s Gnostic yeah
02:00:39 they think the secret knowledge is going
02:00:41 to save them no
02:00:43 it’s that’s what the great that’s what
02:00:45 the great work is about the great work
02:00:47 is about monastic work the work of self
02:00:52 Perfection right that that’s
02:00:55 um that’s relying on self and not Yahweh
02:00:58 there’s nothing I can do to be saved
02:01:00 because I have sinned even one little
02:01:04 sin is going to keep me from being able
02:01:05 to well it’s for the simple fact you
02:01:09 can’t save yourself for the simple fact
02:01:11 that you can’t pay the ransom price for
02:01:12 your past sins
02:01:13 [Music]
02:01:15 even should you turn even should you
02:01:18 turn wholeheartedly to Yahweh you
02:01:19 yourself cannot pay the ransom price for
02:01:21 your past since
02:01:23 well uh the price is death and so again
02:01:28 even if I did pay it
02:01:31 that’s death physical and spiritual so
02:01:34 if I paid it that means I can’t go back
02:01:36 to him right right
02:01:39 um but
02:01:41 Joshua paid it I’m covered by yeshua’s
02:01:45 righteousness by his blood and and the
02:01:48 process of sanctification
02:01:51 [Music]
02:01:52 is one in which we play an active part
02:01:56 yes
02:01:57 by observing the law
02:02:00 yeah uh have you read all things you can
02:02:02 do yet
02:02:05 um yeah
02:02:10 [Music]
02:02:10 um
02:02:12 so here we go
02:02:18 I I recommend reading it but I might be
02:02:20 biased
02:02:22 because I wrote it right anyways
02:02:26 um but
02:02:28 in here I get more details but
02:02:31 the baptism of the Holy Spirit we’ll
02:02:34 just focus on this
02:02:35 is a sanctification by the law Torah and
02:02:39 have it written on your heart and you
02:02:42 seek to sin no more and have the express
02:02:44 image of yahshua in your countenance
02:02:48 so
02:02:50 [Music]
02:02:51 um
02:02:52 let’s go
02:03:03 I can’t spell
02:03:06 what are we looking for sanctification
02:03:09 it’s right here
02:03:11 oh okay
02:03:16 yeah
02:03:17 uh is that the one I want though
02:03:22 not sure
02:03:25 let’s be the one that’s showing up that
02:03:28 Webster’s Dictionary sanctification
02:03:30 right okay I’m looking for the DNC
02:03:33 something one though active and Covenant
02:03:35 section 88.
02:03:39 right here
02:03:43 uh okay
02:03:45 it was it was right up there right there
02:03:47 you wanna read it okay they shall remain
02:03:50 under this law until they repent and
02:03:53 remember the new or renewed Covenant
02:03:55 even though that’s not the one we want
02:03:57 88 is up 88 it’s up that’s the one we
02:04:00 want here it is
02:04:02 and again very early I say unto you that
02:04:04 which is governed by law is also
02:04:07 preserved justified by law and perfected
02:04:10 and Sanctified by the same law
02:04:14 that which that which breaketh the law
02:04:16 and abideth not by law but seeketh to
02:04:18 become a law unto itself and willeth to
02:04:21 abide in sin
02:04:23 and all together abideth and sin cannot
02:04:26 be Sanctified by law neither by Mercy
02:04:30 Justice nor judgment
02:04:33 therefore they must remain filthy still
02:04:37 so if we’re Sanctified by the law and I
02:04:41 mean I know you’re not in this camp but
02:04:42 a lot of people
02:04:43 uh think the law was done away with so
02:04:47 the thing that we’re Sanctified is done
02:04:48 away with how are we sanctified
02:04:52 because if we’re not Sanctified we
02:04:54 remain filthy
02:04:57 anyways we’re on the same page on this
02:04:59 so but I’m just not everybody is so I
02:05:02 want to bring it out but the main thing
02:05:04 I’m bringing out here is how
02:05:07 uh we are Sanctified by the law
02:05:09 and just going down to the imagery of
02:05:12 the baptism of the Holy Ghost is about
02:05:15 sanctification
02:05:20 and this post uh primarily is helping
02:05:25 people understand that the Holy Spirit
02:05:27 or the holy Behavior
02:05:30 is law
02:05:32 AKA Torah
02:05:34 and it it’s the the more we act under
02:05:38 the law
02:05:39 the more the holy ghost or a mind and
02:05:42 will of God becomes our mind and will
02:05:46 therefore we become one
02:05:49 even as the father and the son are one
02:05:52 yep
02:06:01 that hopeful Zach do you have any
02:06:06 yeah that’s so cool okay
02:06:10 and so you know but but once again
02:06:14 the whole thing is we’re not doing this
02:06:16 we don’t do this
02:06:20 what we do is we keep the law but we do
02:06:23 but um
02:06:26 we keep the law but the but the price
02:06:29 our Redemption is paid for by Jesus
02:06:31 Christ
02:06:33 oh yeah we’re saved by his merits alone
02:06:39 um but that’s only given to those with a
02:06:42 broken heart and a contrite spirit
02:06:44 exactly they’re the only those with
02:06:48 broken heart and contract Spirit are the
02:06:49 only people to whom the ends of the law
02:06:52 are answered
02:06:54 yeah and that’s
02:06:56 uh all throughout the Book of Mormon
02:06:58 second by two second by nine it’s in
02:07:02 Psalms
02:07:03 yeah and when I
02:07:06 there a lot of people have trouble
02:07:08 understanding what the broken heart
02:07:10 contrite spirit is to them it’s a
02:07:12 combination of words
02:07:15 that’s about as much as they understand
02:07:17 it
02:07:19 well they think they understand the
02:07:22 combination of words but they they don’t
02:07:24 because
02:07:26 the Broken Heart
02:07:29 a broken horse can be ridden
02:07:33 it can obeys the commands of the of its
02:07:37 writer
02:07:41 um so the broken heart is The Obedience
02:07:44 part
02:07:46 the contract spirit
02:07:49 is the spirit that acknowledges our need
02:07:52 for Redemption
02:07:55 and the need for the price
02:07:57 cubic Bay which we cannot pay ourselves
02:08:04 uh and I like airport and it submits
02:08:09 the broken heart and contract Spirit
02:08:11 lead to a spirit a lead to an overall
02:08:13 submission to that which to that which
02:08:16 the father inflicts upon us
02:08:19 which is his law his cross is his law
02:08:24 I like the imagery of the the broken
02:08:27 horse because is it uh
02:08:31 Alma 37. uh uses you know Bridal your
02:08:35 passions
02:08:36 and you go look at the dictionary
02:08:39 definition of Bridal
02:08:54 it gives imagery that goes along with to
02:08:57 zits the tassels
02:09:01 um like I I’ll I have a Hebrew
02:09:04 pronunciation the Hebrew pronunciation
02:09:06 that’s
02:09:08 difficult for some people it’s difficult
02:09:10 for some oh as you can see sometimes
02:09:13 have difficult with some English words
02:09:14 anyways
02:09:18 um the instrument which a horse is
02:09:19 governed restrained by writer what does
02:09:22 that in real life it’s for us humans
02:09:25 it’s the law Torah in fact that even
02:09:28 goes with the imagery with
02:09:31 when we’re told to wear the tassels
02:09:34 disease consisting of head stall
02:09:38 the head right a bit rains and other
02:09:42 appendages according to particular form
02:09:43 and use a restraint
02:09:46 a short piece of cable
02:09:49 which is the opposite of the chords of
02:09:52 Satan that we get bound with if we
02:09:54 follow Satan versus the cords
02:09:57 that will sanctify us with Yahweh
02:10:01 uh attached to a swivel on the train
02:10:04 lead in a harbor the upper and draw into
02:10:08 a ship secured to the bits this is
02:10:10 enable ship one more beer with the wind
02:10:13 and Tide
02:10:15 Bridal to restrain or guide govern to
02:10:19 check curb control Bridle the passions
02:10:22 like uh I think it’s Alma 37.
02:10:25 6
02:10:27 it’s also in James
02:10:30 okay to bride amuse
02:10:33 a bridal the excursions of Youth to hold
02:10:38 up the head and draw the chin who’s our
02:10:42 head Yeshua and how do we hold them up
02:10:44 by keeping his Commandments but anyways
02:10:49 um
02:10:50 let’s see
02:10:52 oh
02:10:58 I think it’s Alma 37 or it’s going to be
02:11:00 37-36
02:11:05 I think 37.
02:11:11 well maybe 36.
02:11:17 oh maybe 38.
02:11:26 there we go out of all your passions use
02:11:30 boldness but not our parents also CD
02:11:32 Bridle all your passions that he may be
02:11:34 filled with love
02:11:36 that’s interesting
02:11:39 and this in combination with the broken
02:11:41 heart that you may be filled with love
02:11:44 you may be possessed of charity
02:11:49 yeah because charity is what keeping the
02:11:53 Commandments it’s just and right action
02:11:56 engaged in
02:11:57 [Music]
02:11:59 engaged in for just and right purpose
02:12:03 right and idleness that’s going to be
02:12:07 more along the faith hope and charity
02:12:08 stuff right because from ether 12 we
02:12:13 have the hope that then brings us to
02:12:16 action right
02:12:18 to make this a better world as in a
02:12:21 world much like heaven right but anyways
02:12:24 the Bridle all your passions
02:12:28 um to zits
02:12:30 are
02:12:32 to get us to remember the Commandments
02:12:34 and
02:12:37 my last post
02:12:47 foreign
02:12:57 see here’s the the verses
02:13:00 I’ve finally could put them in chiasms
02:13:02 yeah
02:13:04 or before I couldn’t I just I couldn’t
02:13:06 figure it out because some of these take
02:13:08 a while but anyways
02:13:10 um
02:13:12 yeah fringes speaking about the branches
02:13:15 on garments reminder of the law yeah
02:13:21 um and if you just want my
02:13:23 sense
02:13:25 [Music]
02:13:31 yeah apparently I can’t spell
02:13:40 there we go
02:13:42 you want that one
02:13:45 um
02:13:46 I need to update it put the kai is in
02:13:48 theirs but anyways
02:13:51 um there’s the chiasms
02:13:53 I could finally do it some of these take
02:13:55 time to figure out
02:13:57 okay
02:13:59 um
02:14:01 yeah I’m I am drifting here okay yeah
02:14:05 that’s probably a good time there I’m
02:14:06 gonna have to sign off
02:14:09 that’s fine do you have anything else
02:14:11 you want me to go over real quick Zach
02:14:13 or if not this is probably good sign off
02:14:16 time
02:14:17 getting sleepy too okay
02:14:21 all right well thanks for coming
02:14:24 um yeah so please come next week it’s a
02:14:27 pleasure Stephen
02:14:28 I I look forward to these
02:14:32 um that’s all
02:14:34 I look forward to the set
02:14:37 yeah so do I