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Some patterns of the Mighty Ones. As taught in Alma 40 Moses couldn’t have died to be at the mount of transfiguration with Yeshua / Jesus. The history in scriptures are written in a way to point us to Yeshua / Jesus. It’s sad that bishops are not able to help people with their questions. Nephi did not feel good when the Spirit told Nephi to execute the judgement of brokens laws upon Laban. Nephi executing judgement is according to Torah, including the sanctuary city. Paul kept the ceremonial, but did not keep the law of Moses. Talked abut circumcision some. In the LDS / Brighamite temple wives gave their husband additional women, which is done in the occult and with the elites. Talk about the Brighamite temple some. It’s against Torah to have relations with your mother, and a curse for breaking Torah is someone will lay with your wife. Expounding some prophecy hiden in aspects of the history of Abraham. Talked about wine and how we should use it for the sacrament, and how it points to Yeshua’s / Jesus atonement. I believe mushrooms are not Kosher. Lees shows that wine is alcoholic. Bread is alcoholic. I started drinking wine and beer because of the promise in verse 19. The symbolism of the sacrafices shows Yeshua / Jesus does the cleaning. Drinking to much water will kill you. LDS / Brighamite church used to have a wine mission for the sacrament. Looked into tithing some, and how it should be off of SURPLUS not GROSS or NET. The day starts at sunrise not sunset. Red wine is red because of the browsed skin just as Yeshua / Jesus skin was browsed for us. Looked at verses regarding the queen of heaven and King of heaven. The occult have you dedicate all your belongings to their cult, which is the same thing you do in the LDS / Brighamite temple. Tithing is consecration. Purim is pagan. The series The Choosen is pushing occult ideas. Baptism is in Torah. YHWH does things at His appointed times aka the High Holidays. I speculate that the day that the Mighty One will be married will be Passover. The Mighty One calling will change to an appostle to teach the whole world just as Nephi’s calling changed. The silver scroll defeats the Deuteronomist theory. The 4 horses in the book of Revelation is related to the 4 horses in Zechariah, which chapter 1 seems to indicates is related to Daniel 9. Look into the imagery of brass. While working to understand the book of Revelation it’s important to understand where it’s drawing it’s imagery from and the context from where it is from. Talk about Lord of the Rings some. Star of David is not from YHWH.

Links:

• Catch and Understand
• Holy Spirit is Torah
  All Things You Should DO
• Law of Moses and Torah are two different things
• Circumcision theory
• King Brigham
• Word of Wisdom
• Kosher
• Bread is alcoholic
  Health
• Nazarene
• Morning
• No mother in heaven
  Abraham 3:22-23 Chiasmus
• Occult
• Kabbalah
• High Holidays

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00:00:03 so a theory I have that goes along with
00:00:07 the mighty and strong one first of all I
00:00:10 believe uh Moses was a mighty and strong
00:00:13 one okay
00:00:15 um and so things that he did
00:00:18 uh can help us know what’s going to
00:00:20 happen with the mining strong one in
00:00:21 fact uh in
00:00:23 second Nephi 3 it Likens the mighty and
00:00:26 strong one to Moses
00:00:28 in multiple aspects right so this is not
00:00:31 just coming out of nowhere but anyways
00:00:35 um
00:00:37 so I see various patterns that have to
00:00:39 do with I I don’t have a good name for
00:00:42 the one before the mighty and strong one
00:00:44 maybe the preparer
00:00:47 um
00:00:48 sure yeah it’s probably better one it’s
00:00:50 just I always get the Elijah and Elias
00:00:52 always mixed up their names are too
00:00:54 great well Elias is actually a calling
00:00:58 Elisha Elijah and Elisha were brought up
00:01:02 uh okay yeah well there’s Elias Elias is
00:01:06 okay well I I see two colleagues the the
00:01:09 preparer and the mudding and strong one
00:01:11 and and then absolutely and then the
00:01:14 Messiah one right
00:01:15 um yeah in fact I’m thinking a little
00:01:18 Sidetrack but
00:01:21 three measures of mill
00:01:23 I think also goes along with that
00:01:26 from the New Testament yeah
00:01:30 um three has to do with Redemption
00:01:33 I believe that’s part of the reason that
00:01:36 pattern is there is because three is
00:01:39 redemption
00:01:43 it’s the third time we get the Messiah
00:01:47 and also you got a three and a three
00:01:52 during
00:01:55 the third 2000 Millennium section after
00:02:01 that that’s when you get the Messiah
00:02:03 but anyways
00:02:05 um so the thing I was going to say
00:02:08 there’s a lot of patterns in the
00:02:09 scriptures to help us
00:02:12 recognize the mighty and strong one and
00:02:15 along with this where I stated before I
00:02:19 this is me I believe the reason why
00:02:21 David could not build the temple is
00:02:24 because David was the mighty one and not
00:02:27 one representing the mighty one and the
00:02:29 mighty one doesn’t do the temple and so
00:02:33 Yeshua gave an excuse if David hadn’t
00:02:36 had that problem he would have said
00:02:38 something else okay that’s my personal
00:02:40 opinion okay along with that
00:02:43 uh I there’s all these arguments about
00:02:47 why
00:02:49 um
00:02:50 Moses couldn’t go under the promised
00:02:51 land okay
00:02:54 I believe the real reason is because he
00:02:57 was the mighty and strong one
00:02:59 and he is not to do that in fact Nephi
00:03:03 and third Nephi 11 he’s the mighty and
00:03:06 strong one and guess what he didn’t keep
00:03:08 his calling of the head of the church
00:03:11 his calling was changed to an apostle
00:03:14 which is outside Zion
00:03:18 Nephi is the mighty one
00:03:21 in that time frame and was not allowed
00:03:24 to be
00:03:25 in Zion just like Moses wasn’t
00:03:28 you say that’s the pattern if you ask me
00:03:31 of course here I am stating it but then
00:03:34 there is there is this to consider with
00:03:37 that that’s very very interesting
00:03:40 insights but there is this to consider
00:03:42 and that is Enoch was abiding strong one
00:03:45 and he was within Zion
00:03:51 um I haven’t
00:03:53 I
00:03:56 well I mean is this list we have to look
00:03:58 I I don’t know if I would consider him a
00:04:00 mighty and stronger than the Messiah one
00:04:03 um or a messiah type okay yeah
00:04:06 um
00:04:10 Melchizedek was also a messiah type
00:04:13 right
00:04:15 um because there’s various types out
00:04:17 there and so
00:04:19 um we’d have to dig into that further
00:04:21 but if he I do see your point if Enoch
00:04:25 was a mighty and strong one it would uh
00:04:29 yeah possibly go against that but at the
00:04:33 same time they didn’t stay on earth
00:04:35 right they went up and down and so
00:04:39 um
00:04:40 we’d have to get into details on that
00:04:43 one I I haven’t looked into that
00:04:45 no is Noah was an atom Adam okay that’s
00:04:50 right that’s right yeah and
00:04:52 um a lot of things with uh the flood is
00:04:57 a recreation story or history the things
00:05:00 that are brought out it’s a recreation
00:05:03 because you all if you pay attention
00:05:04 there’s a lot of parallels to the
00:05:07 creation with Adam
00:05:08 Noah is another atom
00:05:12 I’m sure there’s other things too but uh
00:05:14 a big thing again just because somebody
00:05:17 does mighty and strong acts does not
00:05:19 make them a mighty and strong one type
00:05:21 correct uh just like all the prophets
00:05:24 have attributes that are like the
00:05:26 Messiah right
00:05:28 um
00:05:29 to bring us to him but anyways
00:05:33 um so since we’re on that subject I
00:05:35 thought I’d just lay that out there a
00:05:38 little bit
00:05:39 um I
00:05:40 I also I think another reason why Moses
00:05:43 didn’t die is because when you go look
00:05:46 at Alma 40
00:05:48 uh
00:05:50 uh he’d have to stay dead and Moses went
00:05:54 to the mountain Transfiguration with
00:05:55 Yeshua
00:05:57 I I don’t know why but I know what
00:06:00 happened but before that to happen
00:06:04 considering Alma 40 Moses couldn’t die
00:06:08 just like Elijah never tasted death and
00:06:10 he was there at the Mount of
00:06:11 transfiguration correct
00:06:13 so that goes along with Alma 40.
00:06:16 um
00:06:17 but why wasn’t Alma there then because
00:06:20 they say he never tasted death
00:06:22 hi yes that is in the Book of Mormon and
00:06:26 I don’t I don’t know any reason for that
00:06:28 in fact I also along the lines I don’t
00:06:30 know why I had to be Moses and Elijah
00:06:32 that was the other on the mountain
00:06:33 Transfiguration I why I don’t know
00:06:43 right it just tells us it happened it
00:06:46 doesn’t really say much of what was
00:06:48 going on or what the or the thing about
00:06:51 the Bible
00:06:54 is that it
00:06:55 keeps us it keeps us squarely in the
00:06:58 realm of action
00:07:01 well you
00:07:04 a lot of times
00:07:07 a lot of times it doesn’t tell us why
00:07:10 God does for sure right so there’s a lot
00:07:13 of the Bible That’s descriptive just
00:07:15 telling us what happened and there’s
00:07:17 other parts that are prescriptive as in
00:07:20 here’s what you’re supposed to do right
00:07:22 there’s a combination of both
00:07:25 uh and we have to use our intelligence
00:07:28 that Yahweh gave us to know one from the
00:07:30 other right yeah yeah that’s true that’s
00:07:33 true uh yeah but but my my point is my
00:07:38 my point is it doesn’t spend the Bible
00:07:40 does not spend a lot of time trying to
00:07:42 tell us why God did what he did
00:07:46 um no in a lot of cases not because I
00:07:50 think part of the reason is if you
00:07:52 studied you would know why right exactly
00:07:55 exactly yeah and also I think to go
00:07:59 along with that
00:08:01 Yahweh teaches his things to diligent
00:08:05 disciples not the ones not the lazy
00:08:09 learner ones
00:08:13 not the ones you just want to show up to
00:08:16 a uh not the ones just want to show up
00:08:18 to a presentation and get told
00:08:19 everything that they’re supposed to
00:08:21 believe
00:08:21 correct which is from Pagan traditions
00:08:25 right that Christianity adopted when yes
00:08:29 and that’s that’s that’s the Comfort
00:08:31 cycle right there it’s it’s don’t don’t
00:08:34 let me expend any effort on of my own
00:08:38 uh let me it’s lazy is what it is and
00:08:41 it’s it’s
00:08:43 at the same time when you’re presenting
00:08:45 completely new ideas to a certain group
00:08:48 of people that format can be yours sure
00:08:51 sure but um so in the book of Acts
00:08:55 when the people met they did it like
00:08:59 it’s described in Moroni six nine
00:09:02 seriously they did
00:09:06 um and it was later when the paganisms
00:09:12 falling out oh well yeah okay so
00:09:18 um
00:09:21 uh I I believe that can also point us
00:09:25 somewhat back to Lazarus
00:09:28 yeah that’s true when when Paul because
00:09:31 the Miracles that the prophets do are
00:09:36 actually mimicking Yeshua in his
00:09:38 teachings and his and his plan for us
00:09:42 they’re they’re not just incidental I
00:09:44 wanted to do this
00:09:46 um right
00:09:48 and so I I don’t know for sure but I
00:09:51 think that can get tied to Yeshua
00:09:55 raising Lazarus to be honest
00:09:58 yeah I think I can see that I can see
00:10:00 that
00:10:01 um but I I’m not sure that’s not one
00:10:03 that I’ve really spent a lot of time
00:10:05 thinking about but that’s a a
00:10:08 possibility for me it’s an interesting
00:10:11 yeah
00:10:15 that they put in the scriptures are not
00:10:18 there accidentally
00:10:20 so they’re there to help you start
00:10:23 seeing connections because
00:10:25 there’s a million ways you could write
00:10:27 these histories but they wrote it in a
00:10:30 way
00:10:31 so those who have ears to ear and eyes
00:10:34 to see will see Yeshua when Yeshua
00:10:38 stated the scriptures testify me he was
00:10:41 not kidding
00:10:43 okay there’s a narrative
00:10:46 the script the scriptures are a
00:10:51 are a history but they’re a history with
00:10:54 a narrative
00:10:55 well well their history
00:10:58 written by prophets with an agenda on
00:11:03 that agenda to point us to Yeshua yeah
00:11:06 exactly that’s my point there it’s a
00:11:10 history with a narrative oh okay uh I
00:11:15 I guess I think it’s something a little
00:11:16 different with narrative but I guess you
00:11:17 meant the same thing
00:11:18 um yeah that is what I meant though I
00:11:21 guess you’re right an agenda to point
00:11:23 people to Christ is probably a more
00:11:24 accurate way or something right it’s
00:11:27 it’s all over I I mean
00:11:31 well if you guys want we could go pick a
00:11:33 story either in Genesis or the Book of
00:11:36 Mormon and we we I a lot of them I can
00:11:39 show I don’t know it for all of them but
00:11:41 a lot of them I I can it’s just
00:11:45 the more you know Yeshua the more you
00:11:48 will see him in the scriptures and I’ll
00:11:50 just
00:11:51 leave it with that
00:11:53 um just it takes time and thought and
00:11:56 deep ponderings as Joseph Smith stated
00:11:59 that we should do right
00:12:01 which is contrary to this lazy learning
00:12:04 um that’s so prevalent and getting even
00:12:06 worse now in fact
00:12:09 and and house out of order someone
00:12:12 posted how
00:12:14 um Seminary is you know not even
00:12:17 requiring them to read all the
00:12:18 scriptures
00:12:19 no
00:12:21 yeah yeah yeah
00:12:23 and they were calling it one thing but I
00:12:25 think it’s more along the lines of of
00:12:28 brainwashing to the fact that they’re
00:12:30 controlling more what’s going in the
00:12:32 mind
00:12:33 thank you
00:12:35 so go ahead Matt they don’t separate
00:12:38 young men from young women anymore
00:12:41 in church meetings
00:12:44 oh I didn’t know that I’ve been yeah
00:12:47 meeting and there were young women in
00:12:50 there yeah Johnny did yeah John well
00:12:53 sorry yeah Johnny went to his priesthood
00:12:55 meeting and there were sorry yeah and
00:12:57 then there were young women in there so
00:13:00 it’s not it’s definitely not the fifth
00:13:02 Sunday because it’s just a second round
00:13:03 and it’s February so there wouldn’t be
00:13:05 five but anyways
00:13:09 um because I I remember the fifth Sunday
00:13:10 they would combine preset and Release
00:13:12 Society together but anyways no no it’s
00:13:15 for the Youth for the Youth now it seems
00:13:18 that the young women and the priesthood
00:13:19 meeting together
00:13:22 okay well whatever
00:13:24 um
00:13:25 it’s one of those really weird things
00:13:28 um yeah after after uh after next uh
00:13:35 okay after next week really I don’t
00:13:37 think we’ll be going for a while I feel
00:13:39 very uncomfortable there anymore
00:13:42 yeah uh so I’m gonna I’m gonna pause
00:13:43 okay
00:13:45 yep
00:13:49 so it’s it’s interesting with with
00:13:51 Bishops with their
00:13:53 um
00:13:55 they’re special endowment of the spirit
00:13:58 as they have the keys
00:14:01 that when people
00:14:04 talk to them and share their
00:14:08 issues
00:14:10 um with them that their response to
00:14:13 something like a talk from
00:14:18 what was it again
00:14:19 um it was Elder Bednar bednar’s talk
00:14:22 about well
00:14:24 just be a good little boy or girl that
00:14:26 if it makes you feel good then it’s then
00:14:28 it’s from Yahweh and
00:14:32 and that makes me think of
00:14:35 Nephi and laven and how Nephi was told
00:14:40 by the spirit
00:14:42 to execute the punishment for a broken
00:14:45 law that Believin did and Nephi
00:14:49 shrunk at that he didn’t feel good
00:14:52 and so my question for Bishops like that
00:14:55 was that
00:14:57 actually from Yahweh according to that
00:15:00 teaching
00:15:01 from I just forgot his name again it’s
00:15:04 probably because I don’t like him Elder
00:15:06 Bednar Bednar yeah
00:15:10 I’m not giving him the title Elder but I
00:15:13 mean that that’s so
00:15:15 it’s so contradictory but I can tell you
00:15:20 that the instruction to kill Laban did
00:15:23 come
00:15:24 from Yahweh
00:15:26 oh I completely agree with you including
00:15:28 including the method for his Deliverance
00:15:32 which is found in the law governing
00:15:35 Sanctuary cities
00:15:37 which states
00:15:39 that if the Lord deliver a man into your
00:15:44 hands
00:15:46 that you may flee to the sanctuary City
00:15:48 and be safe in the Lord
00:15:52 hmm
00:15:53 the um
00:15:57 in the Book of Mormon it specifically
00:15:59 States
00:16:01 that I knew that God had delivered Laban
00:16:04 into my hands
00:16:07 the spirit told him that God had
00:16:10 delivered living into his hands and that
00:16:14 God had Sanctuary for him
00:16:18 yeah and that’s the the Promised Land
00:16:22 and that was the promised land they and
00:16:25 so they and so they were and and so the
00:16:29 thing and so and so we see that
00:16:33 not only did the Holy Ghost
00:16:35 not command someone to violate Torah
00:16:39 the Holy Ghost was completely in line
00:16:44 with every requirement of 12. I is the
00:16:50 Holy Ghost completely in line with every
00:16:52 requirement of Torah because the Holy
00:16:54 Ghost is the law the holy spirit is the
00:16:58 Torah um but
00:17:01 this is why this is why it’s completely
00:17:03 in line right but I I I’m gonna discreet
00:17:06 just a little bit I in the history of
00:17:10 this event it says the spirit it doesn’t
00:17:13 say the Holy Ghost and it doesn’t say
00:17:15 the Holy Spirit it doesn’t say either
00:17:16 one of those it says the spirit I
00:17:18 actually believe that Spirit was Yahweh
00:17:21 in this case that’s a personal opinion
00:17:25 um and that would that would make sense
00:17:26 as well that would actually make sense
00:17:31 just the fact that he was telling him
00:17:34 something this so specific as that I I
00:17:38 do believe it was the angel of Yahweh
00:17:39 AKA Yahweh AKA Yeshua actually stating
00:17:43 that and he was a spirit at that point
00:17:46 he had not gotten his uh Tabernacle yeah
00:17:49 and why the surety that he knew that it
00:17:53 was
00:17:54 that it was God who had delivered even
00:17:58 into his age that would explain The
00:18:01 Surety as well yes it would I hadn’t
00:18:03 thought about that part but yes that
00:18:04 would explain the The Surety because
00:18:07 versus one thought in your head right
00:18:10 you could question that
00:18:13 um where if the spirit was actually
00:18:15 Yahweh that would explain The Surety
00:18:18 um but I
00:18:20 in some of these terms after context to
00:18:23 know which one it is because it’s all
00:18:25 these overloaded words
00:18:27 and right within our own culture it’s
00:18:30 easy right because we grew up with it
00:18:31 with someone else’s culture which The
00:18:34 Book of Mormon is for us anyways yeah
00:18:39 I was I was just also trying to tailor
00:18:42 that to these people who say that we
00:18:43 need to uh these people who say that we
00:18:46 need to um give precedence to the Holy
00:18:49 Ghost over the written law because the
00:18:51 Holy Ghost after all commanded Nephi to
00:18:54 kill when the law says Thou shalt not
00:18:57 kill well no actually he lost his Thou
00:18:59 shalt not murder that’s a bad
00:19:00 translation exactly exactly that’s the
00:19:02 the that’s another that’s another
00:19:04 reputation but the point and I’m I’m
00:19:07 dealing with this I I was trying to get
00:19:10 a uh double kind of thing in there sure
00:19:12 sure but I I mean double refutation
00:19:16 um there’s actually two words from
00:19:18 Hebrew for there’s a word for kill and
00:19:21 there’s a word for murder and the one in
00:19:24 the Ten Commandments is murder although
00:19:26 translations have changed
00:19:29 um and as far as it’s translated
00:19:31 correctly even as far as it’s translated
00:19:33 correctly in our current culture even
00:19:35 right because the culture has changed
00:19:38 so think about it this way when Christ
00:19:41 gives the further expounding of
00:19:47 the law thou shall not kill you have uh
00:19:52 who is angry with his brother hath
00:19:54 already committed murder within his art
00:19:58 yeah yeah
00:20:00 um
00:20:01 even if you don’t have the Hebrew word
00:20:04 he kind of spells it out in the English
00:20:07 text even in the English text for sure
00:20:10 and the English kill and these bad
00:20:14 translations can’t be murdered because
00:20:16 you you see him
00:20:17 uh capital punishment for one which is
00:20:21 actually directly commandative if man
00:20:23 spills the blood of man man shall spill
00:20:26 his eyes right shall his blood be shed
00:20:30 yeah um
00:20:31 so it can’t it can’t be killed if you
00:20:35 think God is consistent anyways where
00:20:37 some people use that to show it’s he’s
00:20:39 not but that’s because they’re going off
00:20:41 of a bad translation the Hebrew actually
00:20:43 says murder
00:20:45 it’s just in 1611 when King James was
00:20:48 done kill and murder were the same word
00:20:51 there wasn’t a different word for that
00:20:53 two things back then
00:20:56 um they also didn’t have
00:20:58 J’s but that’s a whole other subject
00:21:01 it’s gonna say wait a minute
00:21:04 I’m just more to bring out the language
00:21:06 has changed is more what I’m trying to
00:21:08 hang out with that yeah
00:21:10 um but also back to to Nephi the things
00:21:13 that he was listing
00:21:14 like
00:21:16 the justifications right for doing it
00:21:19 are things that are required in the law
00:21:21 for what he is
00:21:24 I knew that he had tried to kill us
00:21:28 he had stolen our property
00:21:31 yeah um but though I find it interesting
00:21:34 there are supposed
00:21:36 Torah follower and Book of Mormon
00:21:39 Believers that will twist this event and
00:21:42 say well he just killed him right it was
00:21:45 against the law I’m like are you kidding
00:21:46 me do you not know the law like you
00:21:48 claim to study he’s following the law
00:21:52 anyways sorry it’s just well it’s ironic
00:21:56 how some people claim to believe in the
00:21:58 Book of Mormon and Torah and then not
00:22:00 know this stuff
00:22:02 yeah right it’s just
00:22:05 baffling to me because I I think I’m an
00:22:07 amateur it’s just I study it where these
00:22:10 guys claim they’re experts and then they
00:22:12 don’t the interesting thing is because
00:22:14 of people who claim to love the law
00:22:17 who cannot recognize the law when it’s
00:22:20 written
00:22:21 right well a lot of them who claim to
00:22:24 love the law they actually love
00:22:25 pharisism
00:22:29 because that’s what they’re pushing I’m
00:22:32 actually talking about people like
00:22:34 Seventh-Day Adventists and what have you
00:22:37 and yet they do not recognize the law
00:22:39 when it’s written right there in front
00:22:40 of their face and when you’re trying to
00:22:42 point it out they don’t accept what you
00:22:44 point out yeah Seventh-Day Adventists
00:22:47 are interesting that they’ll claim that
00:22:50 they claim the moral law and not the
00:22:51 ceremonial but Paul kept the ceremonial
00:22:54 after he was a Believer right except the
00:22:58 law of Moses he didn’t do the law of
00:23:00 Moses David performs the richness and he
00:23:03 actually stated it was done he stated
00:23:05 multiple ways nor did he and he actively
00:23:09 fought against
00:23:11 against uh circumcision for all
00:23:14 Christians
00:23:15 yes uh it that was
00:23:19 done away also
00:23:21 um and I know that’s a controversial
00:23:22 subject but
00:23:24 um
00:23:25 but I I actually I I
00:23:29 given where it’s where it falls in the
00:23:32 Bible and I know you’ve said this so I’m
00:23:34 going to I’m gonna I’m gonna go out and
00:23:36 say that and this is here you’re gonna
00:23:38 you like my theory on that more now I
00:23:41 like that theory I like that theory that
00:23:43 it’s actually a punishment the law of
00:23:45 circumcision was actually a punishment
00:23:46 for Abraham’s lack of faith in going out
00:23:50 and marrying a second wife to have wow I
00:23:54 don’t know if she was actually a wife I
00:23:55 I she was a Compu blind she wasn’t a
00:23:58 wife yeah the fact that she was supposed
00:24:01 to be Sarah’s
00:24:03 um child shows that she was a concubine
00:24:06 but anyway that’s a whole other subject
00:24:07 well that’s right and and that and I
00:24:12 don’t
00:24:13 but actually I don’t think
00:24:16 and she wasn’t given to Abraham by the
00:24:20 Lord necessarily no she was given by
00:24:22 Sarah correct so that would put her
00:24:25 under concubine status that’s true right
00:24:28 um because it was another woman which is
00:24:30 also I’ll add uh is what the elites do
00:24:34 they have their wives
00:24:36 uh give their husbands concubines which
00:24:40 actually is what Brigham Young did too
00:24:42 because part of the ceremony for
00:24:43 polygamy was having the first wife give
00:24:47 the additional
00:24:49 whatever you can call them I’ll just
00:24:51 leave it at that because they weren’t
00:24:52 wives
00:24:54 well that’s that’s from the occult
00:24:57 yeah that’s what Brigham women was
00:24:59 twisting the restoration into
00:25:02 yeah
00:25:03 he had to he had to he’s returned taking
00:25:07 orders from Jesuits but anyways yeah he
00:25:10 was returning he was returning the
00:25:12 restoration to its Catholic groups
00:25:15 uh
00:25:17 uh or to to the Catholic to the uh meant
00:25:21 to uh somewhat well somewhat some of
00:25:23 that stuff was pretty far Catholic Roots
00:25:25 is the paganism occult Satanism right
00:25:28 yeah
00:25:30 yeah that’s that’s fine I would I just
00:25:33 would have said it more distinctly
00:25:35 but I I’ll agree with you because you
00:25:39 just have to Define what the Catholic
00:25:40 roots are
00:25:41 yeah
00:25:43 but I I think you would agree with my
00:25:45 definition of that right absolutely
00:25:47 absolutely okay all right
00:25:50 um
00:25:51 anyways
00:25:53 um yeah this
00:25:54 this stuff is disgusting uh what Brigham
00:25:59 Young did and
00:26:03 no he was a tire and a horned dog the
00:26:06 worst thing that happened to the
00:26:07 restoration most of what people hate
00:26:10 about what they think about the
00:26:11 restoration came from his Stone Cold
00:26:13 lustful heart
00:26:16 and um
00:26:19 I see
00:26:22 Brigham Young as king Noah through
00:26:24 Messiah 11 through 12.
00:26:28 he is the modern day Noah
00:26:31 and the bergamites are at the modern day
00:26:34 Alum highlights or however you would say
00:26:38 that
00:26:39 yeah yeah that seems like a good way to
00:26:42 say it nice
00:26:44 and the Community of Christ Our Elias
00:26:48 church are the modern zoramites
00:26:52 who came and didn’t have the priesthood
00:26:54 because it couldn’t happen
00:26:59 themselves to be the privileged people
00:27:03 yeah so speaking of all that can we can
00:27:07 I are you done with your thought can I
00:27:09 ask about the temple okay I just didn’t
00:27:11 want to interrupt but um so I did read a
00:27:15 Blog this week or a post from someone
00:27:18 about the LDS temple and they were
00:27:21 explaining that
00:27:23 um it literally is worshiping Satan
00:27:26 because of the way that
00:27:28 they’re like happy and excited about the
00:27:31 fact that
00:27:33 Satan beguiled Eve
00:27:36 and so I from what I hear they they’ve
00:27:39 changed I know they’ve been changing it
00:27:41 so I I don’t from back in my day I don’t
00:27:44 remember anything on that but one thing
00:27:46 for sure
00:27:48 um
00:27:49 they take glory in the Sin as they’re
00:27:51 they’re covering themselves
00:27:54 with the tree that they sinned from
00:27:57 oh
00:28:00 um instead of yeshua’s clothing
00:28:04 yeah so it’s really subtle right
00:28:08 but if you’re really yeshua’s people you
00:28:13 leave that behind you don’t cover it
00:28:15 yourself with it which is the thing
00:28:18 they’re doing they’re covering
00:28:19 themselves with their sin
00:28:25 um but I I don’t remember anything
00:28:28 along that point on Eve but I know
00:28:30 they’ve been changing that role since
00:28:32 I’ve
00:28:33 yeah
00:28:35 I know that they from what I’ve heard
00:28:37 about the new changes I guess there’s a
00:28:39 new change like just recently like this
00:28:42 week uh whether it starts Tuesday or
00:28:44 started or it started Tuesday I don’t
00:28:47 remember
00:28:48 yeah I’d heard that they say now that
00:28:52 you are Adam and you are Eve
00:28:56 well
00:28:57 last time I checked I was gosh
00:29:01 what was you were supposed when I was
00:29:03 there it was you were supposed to
00:29:04 consider yourself as Adam and Eve yeah
00:29:08 yeah
00:29:09 I I don’t know if they’ve changed that
00:29:11 wording
00:29:12 um and I think the purpose on that is
00:29:15 not to say that you’re either you’re
00:29:16 both man and woman though that could be
00:29:18 part of it the Baphomet
00:29:20 um but
00:29:23 um I more how I took it and I think most
00:29:25 people would take it even if there is
00:29:28 Baphomet intended in it
00:29:30 is that you’re supposed to see yourself
00:29:33 in those roles and learn from what
00:29:36 they’re going on kind of like we see
00:29:38 things in the scriptures and apply it to
00:29:40 ourselves right that’s how I feel good
00:29:41 back then I think that I would imagine
00:29:43 that’s how most people take it even if
00:29:45 there’s more intended to that like I
00:29:48 just brought out one possibility
00:29:50 um
00:29:52 one thing that I have one thing that I
00:29:56 learned from the lesson in Princeton
00:29:58 today is that the Brethren of the church
00:30:02 teach all men are a false Doctrine
00:30:05 and they rely upon the cognitive
00:30:06 instruments
00:30:10 update of the leadership of the local
00:30:13 leadership
00:30:15 or to fix it for them
00:30:17 uh sure sure
00:30:20 um and and they they say all these crazy
00:30:22 things too which is a technique of
00:30:24 nothing to see what can pass and if it
00:30:28 doesn’t it’s a joke or just you know
00:30:32 slides it and doesn’t think about it in
00:30:34 fact when if you go study at colds these
00:30:36 cult leaders
00:30:37 do that very exact thing if you uh and
00:30:43 here’s the other thing is that just one
00:30:45 last time in my Charlie Chocolate
00:30:47 Factory I bring that out that’s how
00:30:49 Willy Wonka is acting and it’s not by
00:30:52 accident
00:30:53 right he knows his master
00:30:56 because that’s how his master’s worked
00:30:58 with him so
00:31:01 but the way that you can tell that the
00:31:03 Temple of the temple worship is actually
00:31:07 Pagan or devil worship mm-hmm just by
00:31:11 the symbols yeah yeah those type of
00:31:14 symbols that are in the building well
00:31:16 and the teachings but a lot of people
00:31:18 will
00:31:20 try to see good in them I I did when I
00:31:23 was a member
00:31:24 um but that but that’s there’s not but
00:31:27 they tried it’s all above the bail
00:31:31 even if even if they still had the wings
00:31:33 on the angel that is Aphrodite under her
00:31:37 shell getting taken well and then she’s
00:31:39 got the two uh uh other uh let’s go get
00:31:43 the picture I don’t remember exactly how
00:31:45 they have it there so instead of going
00:31:48 off a vague memory let me go get an
00:31:50 actual picture
00:31:53 thank you oh but uh do you want to
00:31:56 finish the thought about the
00:31:57 circumcision why it was because it was
00:31:59 only through Abraham and we can see
00:32:02 through so I can make sure you can
00:32:04 finish it it’s fine it’s only through
00:32:05 Abraham’s seed that it’s required
00:32:09 um
00:32:10 and so
00:32:12 it’s related to Abraham it’s related to
00:32:15 Abraham’s and and it’s the first child
00:32:18 on movement is required
00:32:20 is Ishmael
00:32:24 and then all the men
00:32:25 at the same time all the men
00:32:28 of Abraham’s
00:32:30 um house have to be circumcised at the
00:32:33 same time as Ishmael
00:32:37 so I I would even go more when Moses
00:32:41 um was doing or coming back to Egypt to
00:32:46 you know to bring him out of slavery
00:32:50 uh we know that jeffrow’s line wasn’t
00:32:54 practicing that and there Jethro’s line
00:32:57 is not of Abraham
00:33:01 his wife told Moses you’re a bloody
00:33:05 husband
00:33:07 because of the blood
00:33:09 that of the circumcision that we had
00:33:12 that had to be done
00:33:14 okay
00:33:15 Jeff froze lying
00:33:17 was not doing it because it was specific
00:33:20 in my opinion and I see
00:33:23 things for it
00:33:25 um is because circumcision I mean um I
00:33:30 got bigger on my brain right now sorry
00:33:31 Abraham Abraham Abraham had multiple
00:33:35 wives and uh well I wouldn’t call it a y
00:33:38 multiple either way but anyway either
00:33:41 way multiple cohabitants yeah multiple
00:33:45 cohabitors
00:33:46 yeah and this is his punishment
00:33:48 and his line because we can see his line
00:33:51 had problems with it too right
00:33:55 which
00:33:56 um Yahweh did say he will punish
00:34:00 um generations for us and and a lot of
00:34:03 us because uh
00:34:06 they they learn the sins of their
00:34:07 fathers and yeah they learned that sin
00:34:11 atra yep
00:34:14 um so anyways and before and before
00:34:16 Abraham could before Abraham could
00:34:19 approach his exaltation he had to put
00:34:20 away this country time
00:34:22 yes
00:34:23 and he did same with uh Israel Jacob
00:34:29 and David went no more unto his
00:34:34 and yeah I don’t even need the GST to
00:34:36 show that one I can show that with the
00:34:37 King James version but jst makes it more
00:34:40 clear of it well a lot of that also had
00:34:42 to do with the fact that Absalom slept
00:34:44 with all of his wives
00:34:45 uh yeah which is that’s another subject
00:34:49 which is against Torah
00:34:51 um oh yeah
00:34:54 um we could yeah because some people try
00:34:56 to use that as proof that polygamy is
00:34:58 correct but
00:35:00 uh Torah and I’ll just say this real
00:35:02 quick since you brought it up Tor
00:35:05 actually specifically
00:35:06 States against that that you are not to
00:35:08 have sex with your mother your
00:35:10 mother-in-law your sister or your
00:35:12 sister-in-law
00:35:14 it actually specifically says that so
00:35:18 um Yahweh would not give that if P
00:35:21 actually says that’s against the law
00:35:23 because otherwise he’s telling someone
00:35:25 to break the law
00:35:27 um and he doesn’t do that right thereby
00:35:28 making himself a liar correct which
00:35:30 would never happen which would never
00:35:31 happen
00:35:33 correct but I I know there’s um Torah
00:35:37 probably more Pharisee
00:35:39 uh or a law Believers I believe it
00:35:41 believes in polygamy
00:35:43 but they are saying they use that
00:35:47 instance to try to say it’s okay look
00:35:49 um look at this but that that was
00:35:53 that was not a good thing in fact
00:35:55 um in Torah it actually even states that
00:35:58 a curse is someone will go
00:36:02 um I don’t remember exactly how it
00:36:05 states but we’ll go enjoy your wife
00:36:08 to put it nicely that’s a curse for
00:36:11 breaking the law
00:36:15 um
00:36:15 so so that’s what happened it was the
00:36:18 curse that happened but circumcision is
00:36:21 related but circumcision is based on
00:36:24 when it’s put about is clearly related
00:36:26 to
00:36:28 polygamy
00:36:31 or other things like onto it right yeah
00:36:34 right
00:36:35 concubine age
00:36:37 et cetera Etc because that’s I I believe
00:36:41 that’s what Abraham did not plugging me
00:36:43 and then when he had a wife after Sarah
00:36:45 died
00:36:47 um
00:36:47 that that wasn’t polygamy right because
00:36:50 it wasn’t no that was not a Serial that
00:36:52 was parallel but anyways just used right
00:36:55 right terms but but yeah I would also
00:36:58 say his two wives is actually prophecy
00:37:01 too and we can get into this because I
00:37:03 even see this in more detail but
00:37:06 Sarah
00:37:07 Jews his other wife I don’t remember the
00:37:10 name the gender guards
00:37:13 that’s the Gentile times of the Gentile
00:37:15 in fact
00:37:18 um here’s another interesting little tip
00:37:19 that goes along with prophecy
00:37:21 Sarah before she died stopped talking to
00:37:25 Abraham after the event that represents
00:37:27 Joshua’s atonement
00:37:30 in fact it wasn’t right away it was some
00:37:32 after like
00:37:33 um 40 years like the sign of Jonah
00:37:38 here’s an interesting another
00:37:40 interesting but that is really cool in
00:37:42 other words it wasn’t 40. sorry I got a
00:37:44 little mixed up it was a three and a
00:37:45 half
00:37:46 sorry I got a little mixed up another
00:37:48 interesting
00:37:50 she stopped talking to him just like
00:37:53 there was to stop talking of Israel and
00:37:58 yahweha’s death marked that
00:38:01 yeah the interesting there’s another
00:38:02 interesting thing that bears into that
00:38:04 whole idea of Hagar being Gentiles and
00:38:08 what have you
00:38:09 and that is
00:38:10 that um
00:38:14 Ishmael also receives the blessing of
00:38:17 the Lord
00:38:19 yeah
00:38:20 a um
00:38:23 uh
00:38:26 great princess coming from his line
00:38:29 right but Hagar’s did not huh
00:38:32 the Ishmael is Hagar’s son
00:38:36 or maybe I’m getting old
00:38:39 is the name Rachel Isaac is Sarah’s son
00:38:45 no no no
00:38:46 um so that’s the comp you buying
00:38:49 um sorry about the names mixed up after
00:38:51 Sarah died
00:38:53 Abraham
00:38:55 married
00:38:56 someone it wasn’t the concubine yeah
00:38:58 somebody else no he married another
00:39:00 woman but I’m the other woman who’s the
00:39:03 Gentiles is what I’m saying oh The Other
00:39:05 Woman is the Gentiles yeah the other
00:39:07 wife not the concubine the other wife
00:39:10 okay
00:39:12 and never mind mine doesn’t really have
00:39:15 anything to say but that other line
00:39:18 didn’t get blessings
00:39:20 yeah from myself
00:39:23 I’m not an expert on that expect Ishmael
00:39:26 actually did receive there’s actually
00:39:28 practically a whole chapter dedicated to
00:39:30 a blessing on issue oh yeah but that’s
00:39:32 off of the concubine
00:39:34 but the Gentile line got no blessing
00:39:36 you’re right you’re right right I don’t
00:39:38 believe so but I’m not an expert on that
00:39:40 just like in the Book of Mormon
00:39:43 the Gentiles are spoken
00:39:50 I’m trying to they have no blessing
00:39:52 unless they’re adopted into this from
00:39:53 yeah that’s a that’s right
00:39:57 yeah
00:39:59 what’s going on with what happened with
00:40:01 uh Abraham’s second wife not the
00:40:03 concubine the second wife the second
00:40:05 wife right yeah
00:40:12 just a blessing on the Gentiles unless
00:40:14 they become Israel yeah right
00:40:19 which goes along with prophecy anyways
00:40:22 these histories like I I’m trying to get
00:40:25 in people’s head
00:40:26 they’re prophecy
00:40:28 they really are
00:40:30 these people saw these prophets knew the
00:40:35 plan and they were trying to tell it to
00:40:37 us
00:40:40 but yeah
00:40:42 I think cool I think yeah that’s pretty
00:40:45 cool stuff I think it’s time for
00:40:46 Sacrament okay I’m ready I’m ready to
00:40:48 drink some wine
00:40:50 foreign
00:40:58 just to go off of Ben’s funny statement
00:41:01 okay but
00:41:04 um
00:41:05 if we are yahweh’s children we will have
00:41:09 everlasting burnings in his bosom
00:41:12 because I mean that’s just what it says
00:41:15 right and wine
00:41:18 is a burnt causes a burning in our bosom
00:41:22 I it’s very symbolic of being his
00:41:26 children being accepted
00:41:28 into his house
00:41:30 and the joy that goes along with it and
00:41:33 also
00:41:35 how it changes from sweet to bitter
00:41:38 there’s just a lot to the symbolism of
00:41:41 wine
00:41:42 you’re missing out if you don’t use it
00:41:44 as
00:41:46 dc89 5
00:41:50 is it five I forget my numbers I have to
00:41:53 go double check
00:41:55 um
00:41:57 since I’m bringing it up that’s the
00:42:00 whole check
00:42:07 no five is not by commandment it’s seven
00:42:12 I don’t know two uh dang it I’m it’s
00:42:15 been a while
00:42:16 two’s not by commitment five is using
00:42:18 wine for this Sacrament okay
00:42:21 um so with that we’re gonna pause
00:42:28 okay so Kesley had a question about
00:42:32 mushrooms so
00:42:35 this is a controversial
00:42:37 uh on kosher Keepers okay
00:42:41 I do not
00:42:43 and now I will admit
00:42:45 I might have a bias here but I will
00:42:48 explain why I actually believe it’s true
00:42:49 but I’ve never liked mushrooms
00:42:53 Karma was a kid and and still don’t okay
00:42:57 so I may have a bias just to put that
00:43:00 out there okay
00:43:02 um but a pattern I see and I have this
00:43:07 um I don’t maybe I don’t talk about the
00:43:09 pattern on like kosher Resource page but
00:43:10 I do have a
00:43:12 some things on my research page that
00:43:15 actually does deal with
00:43:17 um mushrooms
00:43:20 but
00:43:21 um
00:43:22 a pattern I see
00:43:24 is that
00:43:28 um
00:43:29 predators
00:43:32 and garbage cleaners
00:43:36 are not Kosher okay
00:43:37 the only thing that are well except for
00:43:40 fish is kind of a weird situation
00:43:42 because fish
00:43:46 is a little different but in general
00:43:49 um this this applies okay because
00:43:53 um those who eat other animals
00:43:57 are not kosher so like a lion it’s not
00:44:00 Kosher it’s a predator wolves are not
00:44:02 Kosher they’re a predator
00:44:05 um I mean there’s there’s more rules to
00:44:08 to what’s kosher and what’s not but I
00:44:11 don’t know any single
00:44:15 animal that’s considered a predator
00:44:18 that’s kosher
00:44:20 Fish can be a little vague because
00:44:23 sometimes fish eat other fish right
00:44:26 other little insects so the fish are
00:44:28 somewhat of an exception on that but on
00:44:31 land animals and and birds that’s true
00:44:35 predator
00:44:36 they’re excluded okay but
00:44:40 the Sea World is kind of a different
00:44:41 world
00:44:42 also could I uh can I ask a question
00:44:45 real quick isn’t there something
00:44:47 agriculture laws that say fish without
00:44:49 scales or a new girl yeah there is uh
00:44:52 fish without scales are not kosher
00:44:55 um that would be Sharp that’s shark and
00:44:57 eel also
00:45:00 um they do not have scales
00:45:03 let me say that one more catfish
00:45:07 um I don’t know that one off top of my
00:45:09 head so I’ll take your word for it
00:45:11 which if you eat is very disgusting to
00:45:15 The Taste okay I’ve never had one so I
00:45:19 don’t know
00:45:26 foreign no
00:45:29 [Music]
00:45:30 if it doesn’t have scales you you don’t
00:45:33 eat it um I I’ve I’ve had eel and Sushi
00:45:38 before I was uh kosher uh or kept the
00:45:42 kosher laws and
00:45:44 I liked it but I will never eat it again
00:45:46 because it’s not Kosher
00:45:49 um I still eat sushi but I’m very
00:45:51 careful what Sushi I eat
00:45:54 it’s mainly salmon that’s what I eat
00:45:58 um there’s some others but I mean some
00:46:01 is the big Sushi that’s pretty much
00:46:03 everywhere and is kosher right
00:46:06 um because the shrimp which is common
00:46:09 for sushi it that’s definitely not
00:46:11 Kosher that’s a that’s a sea insect and
00:46:15 eating insects and it’s a sea cleaner
00:46:18 yeah it’s a seat cleaner
00:46:20 um it’s a sea pig so to speak because
00:46:22 pigs
00:46:24 are garbage eaters just like shrimp are
00:46:28 um
00:46:29 so now to mushrooms
00:46:34 mushroom is a cleaner
00:46:37 at each rotting
00:46:40 plants
00:46:43 okay
00:46:44 and so for me
00:46:48 no I stayed in my bias right but I’m
00:46:51 also trying to explain why I actually
00:46:54 believe it’s correct
00:46:56 it’s a cleaner
00:46:58 in addition it does not have seeds it
00:47:02 has spores
00:47:04 if you want to get into uh
00:47:08 I think that’s in the Genesis account if
00:47:10 or yeah creation account if I remember
00:47:13 correctly
00:47:14 um
00:47:15 in fact the creation account if you look
00:47:18 at it closely it even brings out um
00:47:21 kosher one of the kosher roles in it and
00:47:24 it’s a little tricky to see but Noah
00:47:26 definitely does because he had he has a
00:47:29 pair of the unclean and seven pair of
00:47:32 the clean
00:47:33 because naughty the cleaning
00:47:37 if he only brought one pair of the clean
00:47:39 we wouldn’t have the clean because he
00:47:42 ate them on top of that
00:47:45 um after he got off the ark he did
00:47:47 sacrifices
00:47:50 of the clean in fact the only thing that
00:47:53 can go on a sacrifice on the altar of
00:47:56 Yahweh is clean
00:47:58 yes and we are a temple
00:48:04 so there’s that connection also
00:48:07 um but because mushroom is a cleaner
00:48:13 I will not eat it
00:48:17 now most of everything else I didn’t
00:48:19 like as a kid like onions I’m starting
00:48:21 to like onions I didn’t like mush
00:48:24 mustard as a a kid
00:48:26 now I prefer mustard in various things
00:48:29 the only thing that I still will not eat
00:48:32 as a kid is a mushroom
00:48:34 yeah mainly because I believe it is not
00:48:36 Kosher because it is a cleaner
00:48:40 okay it eats
00:48:42 rotten food
00:48:45 or rotting plants just like a pig and
00:48:49 shrimp and other things along those
00:48:51 nature
00:48:54 so I won’t but I will tell you some
00:48:58 people who strive to keep kosher do keep
00:49:01 it
00:49:04 um and
00:49:06 [Music]
00:49:06 um
00:49:18 I think
00:49:19 so this is the post right here that kind
00:49:21 of helped me come to that understanding
00:49:23 our emotions
00:49:26 um
00:49:29 so
00:49:31 that’s a good one
00:49:33 um
00:49:35 and then just kosher in general
00:49:39 a new LDS people
00:49:42 listen to your leaders don’t eat swine
00:49:44 or pig as Brigham Young
00:49:48 and George Truesdale
00:49:51 and George you can and talk I just I
00:49:55 just opened up one of those and I said
00:49:57 it doesn’t work
00:49:59 um the link the mushroom one
00:50:02 I want you
00:50:04 oh it’s like 401 error or something
00:50:07 or for whatever
00:50:09 hey let’s see if I have it in my OneNote
00:50:14 because sometimes I
00:50:16 I’m in a habit of keeping more
00:50:20 uh yeah so I
00:50:23 let’s see if it’s the same one
00:50:27 open this role
00:50:32 yeah I’ll republish that one
00:50:34 um in fact maybe I’ll republish it soon
00:50:36 for you so you can read it if you want
00:50:38 because I
00:50:40 uh I can show you I have it in my
00:50:42 OneNote I’m
00:50:44 in a habit of keeping things that I find
00:50:47 meaningful more because of these types
00:50:50 of issues they disappear
00:50:52 um so I’ll republish that one but I’ll
00:50:54 republish it even before I finish the
00:50:57 current one on work the Jake Hamilton
00:50:59 one that I’m trying to take my notes and
00:51:02 put into a full-fledged post but I’m
00:51:04 bringing you up in that you gave me
00:51:06 permission for right yes
00:51:09 um so so that way you can read it
00:51:12 because you probably just didn’t read it
00:51:13 right there
00:51:15 yeah
00:51:17 I’ll I’ll republish that
00:51:20 um I
00:51:23 I don’t know why they’re doing that
00:51:25 um because I’ve seen
00:51:28 more places doing that which is kind of
00:51:30 sad
00:51:31 um anyways
00:51:33 anyways I’ll republish that
00:51:36 for you can’t you read it but the the
00:51:38 main idea is they’re a cleaner
00:51:43 I don’t remember if that’s the word that
00:51:44 they use but that’s a common thing for
00:51:47 these type of
00:51:48 um
00:51:49 animals generally animals but I would
00:51:52 also consider plant and they don’t have
00:51:54 seeds they have spores
00:51:56 yeah okay
00:52:02 yeah that’s cool to get back to Ben’s
00:52:06 funny comment about eating and drinking
00:52:09 wait a minute
00:52:12 28 and say about that oh anyway yeah oh
00:52:16 no eating drinking and bean Mary oh no
00:52:18 yeah wow but
00:52:24 um on his funny statement about the wine
00:52:27 I I just I want to bring up leaves okay
00:52:30 um
00:52:33 these shows that
00:52:35 wine is actually possible
00:52:39 I’ll even go in addition to that
00:52:42 since we’re talking a little bit a
00:52:43 little bit about my king Brigham post
00:52:48 what saved the lehights or Alum hi ice
00:52:51 sorry the limb Heights that probably Lim
00:52:53 Heights sound actually better yeah it’s
00:52:55 limb Heights limb Heights do you guys
00:52:58 remember off top your head what saves
00:52:59 them
00:53:01 hmm
00:53:04 how’d they escape
00:53:06 yeah
00:53:08 uh
00:53:11 I do I know Lord is aren’t they the ones
00:53:16 oh yes wine that’s right
00:53:19 in fact they didn’t just only make wine
00:53:22 for the lamanites
00:53:26 they were making it for themselves
00:53:29 but then because it was part of their
00:53:31 tribute to be specific but then they
00:53:33 gave them extra
00:53:36 but it’s wine and what does wine
00:53:38 represent
00:53:39 the
00:53:41 the atonement
00:53:43 yes
00:53:44 it is the atonement that actually saved
00:53:48 them but within the imagery of this
00:53:52 event it’s wine
00:53:55 yeah but this actually even shows a
00:53:58 double-edged sword of wine because the
00:54:01 limb Heights I mean gave the lamanites
00:54:06 extra wine
00:54:08 that they then got drunk on is what
00:54:11 helped them get saved
00:54:15 right and
00:54:18 it’s interesting
00:54:21 I see in the world getting more drunk
00:54:23 right now
00:54:28 I believe
00:54:30 and this could be controversial but I
00:54:31 believe what’s going on right now is
00:54:33 actually part of the Great and Mighty
00:54:36 work
00:54:38 that’s preparing the second Exodus
00:54:42 amen
00:54:45 can you elaborate elaborate on that what
00:54:47 do you mean by the world is getting more
00:54:50 drunk so
00:54:51 I mean I mean I know it’s getting more
00:54:54 evil but does that mean they’re yeah
00:54:57 that’s they’re more evil
00:55:00 yeah
00:55:01 um does that mean that like overusing
00:55:03 the atonement like no drunkardness is
00:55:06 not the atonement
00:55:09 okay so wine an appropriate amount
00:55:14 represents the atonement drunkardness is
00:55:17 what’s going on with wickedness
00:55:20 is wickedness so yeah
00:55:23 um many symbols in the scriptures they
00:55:26 have a just like the word is a double-ed
00:55:28 sword so are the symbols
00:55:31 okay okay drunkardness is wicked and
00:55:35 evil in fact specifically it brings out
00:55:37 how we should not wake up drinking
00:55:40 wine or strong drink okay this is an
00:55:45 evening drink and Sacrament drink
00:55:48 um and celebrations like
00:55:52 go ahead just like drinking beers is not
00:55:55 something you should do all day it’s
00:55:56 something that you do you have one you
00:55:59 crack One open at the end of the day
00:56:01 maybe to
00:56:03 it’s to relax yes after A Hard Day’s
00:56:07 Work not to wake up and uh start your
00:56:11 day with it
00:56:12 um in fact beer and wine is a natural
00:56:17 anti-depressant
00:56:19 yeah
00:56:20 uh Utah
00:56:22 is the highest
00:56:25 anti-depressant chemical who who the
00:56:27 hell knows what’s in it chemical state
00:56:31 Pharmaceutical
00:56:34 craziness in fact some anti-depressants
00:56:37 is actually derived from LSD and the
00:56:42 craziness that that does
00:56:45 um anyways that’s a whole other subject
00:56:46 but yeah beer
00:56:48 is a natural antidepressant and Joseph
00:56:52 Smith drink it and wine in fact Joseph
00:56:55 Smith would use it at
00:56:57 the sacrament known as weddings
00:57:00 he would bring it
00:57:02 and have it be part of the celebrations
00:57:04 in fact
00:57:06 um
00:57:08 uh it might be this one right here and
00:57:11 when
00:57:12 we then partook of some refreshments and
00:57:15 our hearts were made glad with the fruit
00:57:17 of the vine that’s wine
00:57:20 um I believe that was at a wedding if I
00:57:22 remember correctly but I I would have to
00:57:25 go
00:57:27 I I don’t remember everything but
00:57:28 anyways but the main thing I want to
00:57:30 bring out
00:57:31 is Lee’s because some people some people
00:57:35 will say well wine is a bad translation
00:57:38 it’s not
00:57:40 okay it’s not
00:57:42 first of all grape juice was not
00:57:44 possible until
00:57:48 late 1800s I I forget when
00:57:52 pasteurization happened but it was after
00:57:54 Joseph Smith’s day it might have been
00:57:56 mid-1800s late 1800s I don’t remember
00:57:59 exactly
00:58:00 but it was pasteurizations that made
00:58:04 grape juice possible
00:58:05 before that
00:58:07 it was all wine
00:58:09 yep
00:58:11 so an interesting thing with modern
00:58:14 technology that most of society has
00:58:17 forgotten is that fermentation is a
00:58:21 preservation
00:58:23 not a perverter because most people
00:58:26 today in their justification of making
00:58:29 wine evil
00:58:31 they say it corrupts and it rots no
00:58:35 it is a preserver
00:58:38 is fermentation in fact Yeshua and his
00:58:43 parable about the the leaven
00:58:45 in the seven
00:58:49 uh meals of a loaf I think it if I
00:58:52 remembering the phrase correctly
00:58:55 that’s 11 11.
00:58:58 is fermentation in fact FYI brigamites
00:59:03 if you don’t think you are supposed to
00:59:05 have alcohol stop eating bread bread is
00:59:08 alcoholic
00:59:10 I’m not kidding you it’s alcoholic
00:59:15 and Prince chicken is adding
00:59:17 confirmation in fact if you want My
00:59:20 Health Resource page gets into those
00:59:22 details
00:59:23 in fact
00:59:26 sourdough is the most alcoholic just
00:59:31 and it’s my favorite bread and I it was
00:59:34 my favorite before I knew it was out the
00:59:35 most alcoholic so don’t call me a
00:59:38 drunkard
00:59:39 well even all the health nuts say
00:59:41 sourdough is the best for you
00:59:45 that’s the drunker to be from
00:59:49 I’ll
00:59:56 I’ll tell you the first reason I
00:59:58 actually started drinking wine
01:00:00 um
01:00:06 we’re getting off subject but I’d
01:00:10 oh I have two that I need to combine
01:00:13 apparently anyways
01:00:15 uh
01:00:19 CNC 8917 but I’m
01:00:26 foreign
01:00:33 I’m going to Sidetrack just from these a
01:00:35 little bit
01:00:37 um let’s get it here because I know it’s
01:00:39 here
01:00:43 this is a
01:00:46 I’m pushing the wrong buttons
01:00:49 buttons okay who’s got the buttons
01:00:53 oh it’s 19 not 17.
01:00:55 I do so
01:00:59 it’s not there so hold on
01:01:02 let’s get it here
01:01:06 because I’ll be honest when I first
01:01:09 started drinking wine
01:01:11 I didn’t like the taste
01:01:13 yes
01:01:14 I do now okay
01:01:18 just like when you first learned the
01:01:21 real gospel
01:01:23 it’s kind of distasteful
01:01:25 you don’t like the taste of it it
01:01:27 doesn’t make you feel it doesn’t make
01:01:28 you feel good about yourself just as you
01:01:30 are I know it does not but I had my
01:01:33 first mimosa and I didn’t realize I was
01:01:35 drinking a mimosa
01:01:40 so it’s orange juice mixed with
01:01:43 champagne oh I don’t like champagne but
01:01:46 anyways
01:01:47 so I couldn’t stop drinking it was the
01:01:50 problem I’m like this orange juice is
01:01:52 really all and I just kept on drinking
01:01:55 it
01:01:56 I couldn’t stop
01:02:00 okay
01:02:02 okay
01:02:05 so I’m the drunkard of Judah so there
01:02:08 you go
01:02:10 well
01:02:12 I
01:02:17 I did wine because of this promise
01:02:21 oh yeah
01:02:23 and shall find wisdom and great
01:02:26 Treasures of knowledge even Hidden
01:02:28 Treasures now this is tight
01:02:31 to verse 5 wine for the sacrament verse
01:02:37 17. I think it is yeah it tells us to
01:02:41 drink beer and that beer is good for man
01:02:44 that
01:02:46 is why I started drinking beer and wine
01:02:49 because when I first started both
01:02:52 I hated the taste
01:02:54 but I kept doing it first I started
01:02:57 liking beer more but now I actually
01:02:59 prefer wine but anyways
01:03:02 I initially did it
01:03:04 I promise which is tied to verse 17 and
01:03:09 5.
01:03:12 along with every other person right
01:03:15 right right right
01:03:16 um I agree and we can go over these
01:03:18 verses but it’s not the main thing I
01:03:20 want to go over right now but I agree
01:03:21 along with everything else in there
01:03:23 including meeting Meats barely all the
01:03:26 time right but anyways
01:03:28 foreign
01:03:29 that’s why I I actually started doing it
01:03:32 and I believe part of the reason I see
01:03:36 the things I do
01:03:39 is because I drink wine
01:03:45 [Music]
01:03:46 it’s a promise right there
01:03:49 and guess what Yahweh does not lie
01:03:54 he tells the truth and in ether 3 and 4
01:03:58 that is
01:04:01 foreign
01:04:03 brother Jared
01:04:05 partly saw Yahweh because he knew Yahweh
01:04:09 never lied
01:04:13 the promise is true
01:04:21 and shall find wisdom and great
01:04:23 Treasures of knowledge and hidden
01:04:25 treasures and shall run
01:04:27 and not be weary and walk and not faint
01:04:30 that is tied to drinking alcohol
01:04:36 mild barley
01:04:39 is fermented
01:04:42 barley mild
01:04:44 is
01:04:46 alcoholic and I can show that from the
01:04:48 dictionary if you guys want to subtract
01:04:50 on that but anyways I I yeah but I I’ve
01:04:55 seen it I’ve seen it yeah yeah
01:04:57 um but back to Lee sorry about that
01:04:59 sidetracked
01:05:02 um
01:05:04 foreign
01:05:11 if wine was only grape juice why would
01:05:15 it be a negative thing to call to try to
01:05:18 make people to stop listening to yahshua
01:05:20 by calling him a wide wine bipper
01:05:29 now he was not a wine bidder
01:05:32 but he did drink wine
01:05:34 more than some people thought that he
01:05:36 should have
01:05:37 he made water into wine and no it was
01:05:41 not non-alcoholic wine
01:05:44 and guess what
01:05:46 at a wedding
01:05:48 represents the Covenant that we’re
01:05:51 supposed to have with him
01:05:54 it was not accidental
01:05:57 no
01:05:58 nothing Yahweh I’m sorry nothing Yeshua
01:06:03 who is Yahweh did was accidental
01:06:07 it’s full with purpose and meaning
01:06:16 he turned water into wine at a wedding
01:06:20 and it was the best tasting wine they’d
01:06:22 ever tasted
01:06:25 and my life with him has been the best
01:06:27 life I’ve ever had
01:06:33 come to him
01:06:35 or go to him or however you want to say
01:06:38 it
01:06:40 he is the key to life
01:06:44 thank God
01:06:48 amen
01:06:51 um so all right well back to Lee’s sorry
01:06:53 about that Sidetrack we’ll get there
01:06:56 yeah yeah so
01:06:59 please
01:07:01 first of all let’s just work on the
01:07:02 decoration Lee’s is a byproduct of
01:07:05 making wine so here’s the little tidbit
01:07:08 I have saved from the 1828 dictionary we
01:07:11 can go there but this is just a direct
01:07:13 copy from there the grosser part of any
01:07:16 liquid which have settled at the bottom
01:07:18 of a vessel drags settlement as the
01:07:21 leaves
01:07:22 of wine
01:07:24 it is
01:07:26 a byproduct of making alcohol
01:07:29 right now
01:07:30 let’s go see what Yeshua says
01:07:35 DNC 58 and also that a feast of fat
01:07:41 things
01:07:43 um and now this is uh
01:07:46 chat is an overloaded word okay
01:07:50 um
01:07:51 it’s
01:07:52 a fat as in Big or fat as in
01:07:57 the fat that’s on the meat okay it’s big
01:08:01 things
01:08:02 okay yeah
01:08:04 um not not the fat
01:08:07 that’s the white stuff on the meat
01:08:09 that’s that’s bad in fact just a little
01:08:11 tidbit on kosher things
01:08:15 um it’s not specifically laid out
01:08:18 in the law
01:08:20 but
01:08:22 I do believe organs and fat are
01:08:26 not Kosher okay they are not we are not
01:08:30 we’re not to eat the peat and we are not
01:08:32 to eat the fat of beasts
01:08:35 um does the law actually specifically
01:08:37 state that it actually distance this
01:08:40 does
01:08:41 oh fact you’re to take the fat off of
01:08:46 the Beast that is put on the Altar for
01:08:50 sure okay so
01:08:52 on the sacrifices I completely agree
01:08:55 with guarding the sacrifices and and in
01:08:58 general practice I I don’t know if it’s
01:09:00 actually specifically stated but
01:09:02 um
01:09:03 I’ll I’ll take I’ll take a look I’ll
01:09:06 take another one
01:09:07 I actually believe we shouldn’t be but I
01:09:10 don’t know if the text actually
01:09:10 specifically States it but
01:09:13 so I’ll just look for the specific you
01:09:15 know if you have a specific I I would
01:09:18 love that
01:09:19 um
01:09:20 because I actually
01:09:23 um Fat Heads holds more diseases and
01:09:28 um and that’s a scientific fact and so
01:09:30 which supports my belief that we
01:09:33 shouldn’t be eating it but I don’t know
01:09:34 if the text actually sucks is the
01:09:36 toxicity
01:09:39 the reason why our body makes fat is
01:09:42 because we are toxic
01:09:44 so I am fat right now because my body
01:09:46 has way too many toxins on the inside
01:09:49 I I think part of it also is that you
01:09:52 eat too much but actually I don’t I
01:09:55 don’t know it doesn’t no but what about
01:09:58 in the past
01:09:59 oh well that’s a different map yeah
01:10:02 anyways
01:10:06 um
01:10:07 it is hard to lose weight once your body
01:10:11 is toxic though you’ve gotta detox it
01:10:13 some yeah yeah
01:10:16 um and uh anyways
01:10:19 um
01:10:20 so on fat one thing that’s interesting
01:10:22 on on sacrifices is for sidetracked on
01:10:24 that a little bit the fat is yahweh’s
01:10:27 okay now it’s interesting what is a a
01:10:32 big portion of soap is what
01:10:36 fat it’s actually fat
01:10:38 right and what cleans
01:10:41 e so
01:10:42 it’s the fat in the soap
01:10:45 Yahweh does the cleaning that is his job
01:10:48 to do the cleaning
01:10:51 and he and scriptures actually state
01:10:53 that and here I’m bringing out from the
01:10:56 symbolism of the sacrifices but here’s
01:10:59 another but here’s another thing
01:11:02 that is for Yahweh
01:11:04 he wants our impurities
01:11:07 he wants us to give them to him give
01:11:09 them up
01:11:10 yes
01:11:13 and he’s the one to do the cleaning of
01:11:16 it where the prophets holy prophets
01:11:19 point us to him
01:11:21 not themselves to him who does the
01:11:24 cleaning right
01:11:26 yes that’s his job to take away the fat
01:11:30 and do the cleaning
01:11:32 [Music]
01:11:33 even the sacrifices
01:11:36 once
01:11:37 understanding the symbolism behind him
01:11:39 shows that okay
01:11:42 um anyways okay sorry I’m really
01:11:45 I need to buy a squirrel I really do
01:11:47 [Laughter]
01:11:50 uh
01:11:52 anyways
01:11:54 every once in a while yeah
01:11:57 yeah hopefully these Side Tracks are uh
01:12:00 helpful though but
01:12:01 um
01:12:02 things we prepared for the four poor a
01:12:06 feast of fat things like wine on the
01:12:10 leaves
01:12:13 the drugs the settlement the stronger
01:12:17 that that’s the stronger stuff
01:12:20 yeah yeah
01:12:21 AEK more alcoholic
01:12:25 stuff
01:12:27 almost uh so
01:12:30 almost
01:12:31 yeah so here’s a little interesting
01:12:34 title bit tidbit
01:12:37 um
01:12:37 there’s three categories of alcohol in
01:12:40 the word of wisdom okay that’s true
01:12:42 there’s alcohol strong
01:12:45 and beer
01:12:48 strong is the distilled
01:12:51 that’s right that’s right man-made
01:12:54 and that’s not for the belly but for the
01:12:57 washing
01:12:58 Washington
01:13:00 it’s the man-made stuff that we’re not
01:13:02 supposed to consume
01:13:04 wine cannot get Beyond 20 literally
01:13:09 anything beyond 20 percent the strong
01:13:12 stuff is completely man-made and not
01:13:15 natural
01:13:16 AKA distilling there’s various ways to
01:13:19 just distill including freezing
01:13:22 so if you want an easy way to distill go
01:13:25 freeze but anyways
01:13:28 um make your wine then freeze it and see
01:13:30 what happens yeah
01:13:33 it’s interesting though
01:13:37 on the ice is is symbolic of killing
01:13:40 someone right you go put someone on the
01:13:42 ice
01:13:43 it’s symbolic of killing
01:13:45 a sin
01:13:47 just like I’m bringing up this strong
01:13:49 stuff the DNC States you shouldn’t be
01:13:52 drinking not by command or constraint I
01:13:56 I don’t drink it on a regular basis I’ve
01:13:58 had a few
01:13:59 I don’t like them to be honest
01:14:03 um
01:14:04 I’ve had a few where they have the word
01:14:06 Mormon in it just just to try it because
01:14:08 I mean I’m partial to Mormons I’m a
01:14:11 Nazarene Mormon I’m Porsche I’m partial
01:14:13 to him but
01:14:15 um one other exception I like real
01:14:17 eggnog
01:14:19 yeah other than that I don’t like the
01:14:21 strong stuff okay
01:14:24 um real eggnog is hard
01:14:30 but that’s only once a year thing but
01:14:31 anyway
01:14:34 but back to Lee’s
01:14:36 is well reclined that the Earth may know
01:14:39 that the mouths of the prophets shall
01:14:41 not fail
01:14:42 yeah
01:14:43 because that’s actually a quotation from
01:14:45 Isaiah
01:14:46 yes it is and I have that here and we’ll
01:14:49 get to it okay let’s since you’re
01:14:51 bringing that up let’s read that one
01:14:52 yeah since you brought it up and in this
01:14:55 mountain shall the Lord of hosts make
01:14:57 unto all people a beast of fat things a
01:15:00 feast of wines on the leaves of fat
01:15:02 things full of marrow of wines on the
01:15:04 leaves will rip die
01:15:06 full of Morrow
01:15:08 which is made in the bones AKA it
01:15:12 actually is not at this time kosher
01:15:18 um so
01:15:20 we’re not supposed to break the bones
01:15:22 and suck the marrow out
01:15:25 does it actually state that
01:15:27 I think I’ll need to look at that
01:15:30 because I I believe chicken broth is
01:15:37 kosher and that’s from the morrow
01:15:40 yeah that’s true so you may that’s
01:15:45 something we should go look into okay I
01:15:47 could be wrong but I I do believe it’s
01:15:51 and tomorrow is part of the bone and and
01:15:54 the bone represents the Law so well I
01:15:57 think what I think what it is is that
01:15:58 we’re not supposed to break the bone to
01:16:00 extract uh
01:16:04 I could go along with that but I don’t
01:16:05 know a verse for it but I I can see that
01:16:07 just from what I know about what bones
01:16:10 are okay because we’re not supposed to
01:16:12 break the law right right
01:16:15 um so the imagery I definitely agree
01:16:17 with but anyways
01:16:19 um
01:16:19 so there’s that one
01:16:22 um but here’s the big one
01:16:24 you can see 27.5
01:16:27 um
01:16:28 since you bought it the wine comment bin
01:16:30 you want to read that one
01:16:32 behold this is wisdom in me wherefore
01:16:34 Marvel not for the hour cometh that I
01:16:36 will drink of the fruit of the Vine with
01:16:38 you
01:16:39 on the earth and with Moroni whom I have
01:16:43 sent unto you to reveal the Book of
01:16:45 Mormon containing the fullness of my
01:16:47 Everlasting gospel to whom I have
01:16:49 committed the keys of the record of the
01:16:51 Stick of Eden foreign
01:16:55 wine on the leash when you add
01:16:58 everything together
01:16:59 right and then here’s Luke 22 18 for I
01:17:04 say unto you I will not drink of the
01:17:06 fruit of the vine until the kingdom of
01:17:08 God shall come
01:17:10 this is about the second coming
01:17:13 TNC 27 and he will drink wine
01:17:18 on the leaves
01:17:20 the strong alcoholic portion
01:17:25 question is will you drink it with him
01:17:28 I will
01:17:29 will you I hope so
01:17:34 I will it represents the atonement so I
01:17:38 really hope so
01:17:41 um anyways I I just with Ben’s funny
01:17:45 comment about
01:17:48 um the wine let’s drink some wine I
01:17:55 I wanted to bring that up I I have grown
01:17:57 to like
01:17:59 drinking it where before I did not but I
01:18:03 did because I wanted the promise
01:18:06 and Yahweh is not a liar
01:18:09 the interesting thing is there are so
01:18:11 many promises associated
01:18:14 with wine
01:18:16 as long as it’s not drunkard
01:18:18 yes if you go too far okay I’m talking
01:18:22 about I’m talking about the symbolism oh
01:18:25 so am I but because even the symbolism
01:18:27 if you go too far it’s bad but anyways
01:18:30 yeah exactly that’s true that’s true
01:18:32 everything within reason and uh speaking
01:18:37 of reason if you drink too much water
01:18:39 it’ll kill you so if you think drinking
01:18:41 too much wine is bad and that’s why you
01:18:42 shouldn’t drink it you should stop
01:18:43 drinking water
01:18:46 because if you drink too much water it
01:18:47 will kill you
01:18:49 literally
01:18:50 anyways
01:18:52 I just I was just saying people are done
01:18:54 yeah people have done it literally
01:18:59 so yeah well that was cool
01:19:02 I always I always
01:19:04 I always
01:19:06 you know it’s um
01:19:08 it’s good to know
01:19:11 but to say it’s good to know that the
01:19:14 savior is not as uh self-righteous as we
01:19:17 are
01:19:19 yeah well it’s interesting in multiple
01:19:23 places and I think second Nephi 29 is
01:19:26 one of them it talks about how
01:19:28 um
01:19:29 they have all the laws
01:19:33 of the kingdom of Yahweh I mean that’s
01:19:35 not exactly how it states it right but
01:19:37 we can go look at it if you want to but
01:19:38 he states that how they have all the
01:19:40 loss
01:19:42 and the righteous drink wine
01:19:45 so
01:19:46 Word of Wisdom actually
01:19:51 not tells us not to in fact here’s a
01:19:53 little tidbit
01:19:55 the LDS church used to have a wine
01:19:58 Mission to make wine for the sacrament
01:20:02 There’s an actual mission to make wine
01:20:04 for the sacrament
01:20:07 that stopped in 1920 with prohibition
01:20:09 AKA men telling them to change things
01:20:13 which they claim they don’t
01:20:15 give in to but when you look at history
01:20:18 they do
01:20:20 Time After Time After Time
01:20:24 and I have a verse for that
01:20:27 what did you hear about the most recent
01:20:30 trouble the church got into
01:20:33 uh
01:20:34 uh well I I know the
01:20:37 slush funds getting invested yeah
01:20:39 there’s plush funds getting investigated
01:20:40 again
01:20:42 right because yeah new evidence came out
01:20:45 if that’s the one you’re referring to
01:20:48 yeah that’s well the thing is is it’s
01:20:51 getting more and more likely that the
01:20:53 church is going to finish a class action
01:20:55 lawsuit
01:20:56 I hope so because anyways
01:21:01 they have not done used the tithing
01:21:04 money
01:21:06 as the storehouse they have robbed God
01:21:10 yes they have they’ve been building in
01:21:13 Babylon and they are under his they’re
01:21:16 under his judgment yeah
01:21:19 they’ve been building Babylon a mall
01:21:23 a mall
01:21:27 come on well they while they uh
01:21:31 while they grind the face of the poor
01:21:34 and heard the homeless into inadequate
01:21:37 homeless shelters
01:21:39 yeah I I I’m just I’m going to share a
01:21:43 couple verses the the actually Tiding is
01:21:46 what woke me up
01:21:49 really
01:21:51 you know it’s all about the money right
01:21:52 yeah it’s all about the money for them
01:21:55 so here we’ll just
01:21:58 let’s look at this picture here
01:22:00 this is from teachings the presidents of
01:22:02 the church
01:22:04 no I plead with you in the name of
01:22:07 Yahweh and I pray that every man woman
01:22:10 and child shall pay one tenth of their
01:22:12 income as time oh wait a minute what’s
01:22:14 that dot dot dot
01:22:15 who has means
01:22:19 who has means
01:22:23 meaning Surplus
01:22:26 extra left over
01:22:29 oh you don’t think I’m serious
01:22:33 book
01:22:36 here’s a letter I mean we can go look at
01:22:38 these things I don’t know how much time
01:22:39 we want to spend this but here’s I
01:22:40 expand a letter from an apostle while
01:22:42 Joseph Smith was still alive it says
01:22:45 basically I feel bad for these people in
01:22:48 London because they’re paying tithing
01:22:50 off the gross instead of off the Surplus
01:22:53 that’s basically what it states
01:22:55 Dean c119 we can expound in just a
01:22:58 minute
01:23:00 um but
01:23:01 um mosiah 18 27 according what she had
01:23:05 to him that had not
01:23:09 owned a free will desire
01:23:13 to every needy
01:23:16 every needy not if they go to the
01:23:21 um welfare square or not or help with
01:23:24 service projects or not every
01:23:27 needy person which goes along with Elmo
01:23:30 one
01:23:31 also
01:23:33 um
01:23:35 but a big one
01:23:37 jst Genesis 14.
01:23:40 and he lift up his voice and he blessed
01:23:42 Abram being the high priest and The
01:23:44 Keeper of the storehouse of Elohim him
01:23:47 whom Elohim had appointed to receive the
01:23:50 ties for the poor
01:23:52 for the poor not for Babylon or
01:23:57 investing wherefore Adam paid I mean
01:24:01 sorry Abraham paid unto him tithes of
01:24:03 all that he had
01:24:05 of all the riches which he possessed
01:24:07 which God had given him
01:24:09 here’s the key more than what she had
01:24:11 need
01:24:13 AKA Surplus
01:24:16 but apparently Abram had a lot of
01:24:18 surplus
01:24:20 he did
01:24:22 he uh Yahweh blessed him for his
01:24:27 righteousness right but
01:24:30 um do you see 119 I have a feeling can I
01:24:34 uh sure go ahead put in a point here I
01:24:37 have a feeling that that God blessed
01:24:39 Abraham with that stuff because he knew
01:24:42 that Abraham would know what to do with
01:24:45 it
01:24:48 uh I don’t doubt we do yahweh’s will
01:24:52 concerning it AKA
01:24:54 High proper time
01:25:00 God wants us to enjoy our life I mean
01:25:04 going back to Genesis in the garden we
01:25:07 are to partake of all the trees except
01:25:10 for one
01:25:11 very good and evil 3.
01:25:14 enjoy life
01:25:16 he really literally wants us to enjoy
01:25:19 life the good and evil tree the
01:25:20 checkered tree
01:25:22 yes the black and white checkered tree
01:25:24 that’s the one
01:25:27 that he does not want us to partake of
01:25:29 because that one is sin
01:25:32 he does not want us to partake of that
01:25:34 fruit but everything else he does
01:25:38 there’s a lot more of that we can do
01:25:40 that that we should not do right
01:25:44 after that those who have thus been tied
01:25:47 so much okay one tenth of all of their
01:25:49 interests
01:25:50 annually
01:25:54 and interest yeah interest we’ll get to
01:25:56 these interests and standing law
01:26:00 Forever Wait a minute but it’s forever
01:26:03 sorry
01:26:05 forever that that means that it ends in
01:26:08 five years
01:26:12 that means it ended forever 30 years
01:26:14 right that that that’s a prophecy that
01:26:17 it was going to change when Joseph Smith
01:26:19 died right
01:26:20 isn’t that what forever means
01:26:25 oh wait that’s history not not what it
01:26:28 means sorry
01:26:31 that’s just what happened no that’s what
01:26:33 happened that’s not that’s not what it
01:26:35 means I get confused sometimes
01:26:41 I need to smack myself to remember sorry
01:26:46 um anyways
01:26:48 standing law meaning never changing
01:26:50 forever which means never change
01:26:53 uh saith the Lord and I’m just gonna
01:26:56 Surplus okay interest and surplus
01:26:59 actually mean the same thing
01:27:02 um we’ll get those a minute but
01:27:04 uh no actually I don’t know how much we
01:27:06 want to Sidetrack on tithing actually
01:27:08 yeah but if it’s let’s where let’s get
01:27:11 back to the list of things that we were
01:27:13 doing I don’t think yeah yeah but
01:27:16 Surplus over plus
01:27:18 interests
01:27:20 profit
01:27:22 after you’ve taken care of your expenses
01:27:24 right that’s what profit is
01:27:27 right standing
01:27:29 uh settled established Yeah by long
01:27:33 custom continually existing last time
01:27:38 permanent not temporary not ending in
01:27:42 somebody’s death
01:27:46 um
01:27:47 yeah and
01:27:50 since we talked about why maybe we
01:27:52 should do this one we pay part of our
01:27:55 tithe
01:27:56 of our wine by consuming it there we go
01:28:02 Deuteronomy 14 23 and ye shall eat
01:28:05 before Yahweh thy Elohim in the place
01:28:07 with seashell he shall place in his name
01:28:10 so this is interesting
01:28:13 a lot of Hebrew Roots will say there’s
01:28:15 only one place for the temple
01:28:17 Torah never states that okay
01:28:20 you shall choose to place his name there
01:28:23 this is where they put their false
01:28:25 tradition as one place it never states
01:28:27 that in fact
01:28:29 here here’s here’s some history that’s
01:28:31 actually talked about in the New
01:28:33 Testament
01:28:34 oh wait a minute the woman at the well
01:28:37 right
01:28:39 she brings out how the Jews destroyed
01:28:42 their Temple
01:28:45 there was more than one Temple
01:28:48 yeah
01:28:49 well and here’s here’s the other thing
01:28:51 here
01:28:51 a place where she shall choose to place
01:28:53 his name there
01:28:55 if
01:28:57 Yahweh
01:29:01 um
01:29:02 accepts your repentance and gives you
01:29:04 the baptism of fire has he not placed
01:29:05 his name upon you
01:29:08 yeah yeah well so
01:29:11 oops this is just a thought just a
01:29:14 thought this specifically he’s talking
01:29:16 about a high holiday but it implies that
01:29:18 other things also but yeah since we
01:29:21 talked about Temple a little bit I was
01:29:22 bringing that out yeah
01:29:24 that’s a verse that people twist saying
01:29:28 one one location that’s it’s nowhere in
01:29:31 Torah well it’s actually a first
01:29:34 tradition it was a verse that was
01:29:36 twisted burst by Hezekiah
01:29:40 uh uh you would demanded that the
01:29:43 demanded that the people of Israel
01:29:44 worship at the temple in Judah
01:29:47 yeah there were some errors going on
01:29:51 there but anyways
01:29:53 um
01:29:58 the Jews have their problems okay as
01:30:02 we all do but
01:30:04 um
01:30:05 and one that’s
01:30:07 special to this group has to do with
01:30:11 um when the Sabbath is
01:30:13 that
01:30:15 um
01:30:16 it starts in the morning Sunrise but a
01:30:19 verse that people
01:30:21 will twist to show that it starts in the
01:30:23 evening is from that era
01:30:27 because he
01:30:29 closed the gates in the evening he was
01:30:32 hedging Jews have a head hesitancy
01:30:37 and habit of hedging AKA adding more to
01:30:40 the law that was actually there
01:30:43 to try to keep it which was why they
01:30:45 were actually worn specifically against
01:30:47 that correct and that verse is an
01:30:51 example of that action 101.
01:30:57 Uh current 101 or past 101 probably
01:31:01 current right all right yeah it talks
01:31:04 about and the Watchmen built up and you
01:31:08 know
01:31:08 well that’s not the same thing well no
01:31:11 because they were commanded to build
01:31:13 their heads
01:31:15 yeah that’s the enemies built their own
01:31:18 Edge I guess is
01:31:21 oh yeah
01:31:26 that’s a little different
01:31:28 it is I’m sorry I I no that’s fine I I
01:31:32 mean it’s the same
01:31:34 word but it’s it’s actually different
01:31:37 different context entirely yeah
01:31:39 different context
01:31:41 um
01:31:43 but it happens yeah yeah
01:31:46 it’s just for these symbols and words
01:31:49 have multiple meanings and you got to
01:31:51 take the context into account is awesome
01:31:54 yeah it’s
01:31:56 it can be tricky
01:31:58 um we all make that mistake at times
01:32:02 um
01:32:03 I forget where what I was sharing before
01:32:06 I went to that there’s probably
01:32:09 oh yeah it was this
01:32:11 um
01:32:13 but part of tithing is to consume your
01:32:18 wine
01:32:22 oil
01:32:24 so the wine
01:32:27 in the summer is sweet new wine is sweet
01:32:33 which brings up Acts 2 the new one that
01:32:37 Peter filled with new wine yeah that’s
01:32:41 that’s sweet wine and when you first
01:32:44 learn of the gospel
01:32:47 and in these Concepts it’s sweet it does
01:32:51 taste sweet
01:32:52 it tastes like honey
01:32:54 yeah which is imagery of Torah anyways
01:32:58 um
01:33:00 but
01:33:02 as we continue in our path
01:33:04 we’ve become more mature and it does
01:33:07 become some bitter
01:33:09 just like the bitter cup nine months
01:33:12 later that Yeshua
01:33:13 did as talking season seasonal wise is
01:33:17 bitter
01:33:21 I prefer the bitter
01:33:24 the bitter takes strength
01:33:26 and understanding immaturity
01:33:35 not to down talk the sweet and it’s
01:33:38 still as sweet
01:33:41 but unless you learn to endure to the
01:33:44 end
01:33:45 you will falter
01:33:47 once you get to what you get to a
01:33:50 certain point with old wine where old
01:33:52 wine becomes kind of sweet too
01:33:56 uh I don’t know
01:33:59 get to the point or at least you get to
01:34:01 the point where you like it
01:34:03 well I know
01:34:05 what I’ve seen I’ve come across
01:34:08 that
01:34:11 um
01:34:13 generally speaking the white wine is
01:34:16 sweet and
01:34:18 but if you get red wine which I actually
01:34:21 prefer
01:34:22 um
01:34:23 because of the symbolism in fact a
01:34:25 little tidbit here
01:34:27 to get white wine you have to take out
01:34:29 the bruised skin to get white wine
01:34:34 yeshua’s skin was bruised at the
01:34:36 whipping
01:34:38 for us
01:34:40 but yes
01:34:44 what makes part of what makes the red
01:34:48 wine wine red wine red
01:34:51 is the bruising of the skin
01:34:55 yeah
01:34:57 pointing to Yeshua and his moment that’s
01:35:01 pretty awesome stuff right there
01:35:04 um
01:35:06 but from my understanding back to the my
01:35:10 main point to make red wine sweet
01:35:15 they have to do extra processes
01:35:18 unnatural processes
01:35:20 to make it sweet for my understanding
01:35:22 and I’ve studied it some but
01:35:26 I I’m not an expert in that but I have
01:35:29 studied it some because of the symbolism
01:35:31 of the atonement I I find it important
01:35:34 to learn some about
01:35:36 um
01:35:39 so it’d be interesting to find out if
01:35:41 that’s actually true but I I’m inclined
01:35:43 to think it’s not
01:35:46 yeah
01:35:48 but I I don’t know for sure
01:35:50 well
01:35:53 to me
01:35:55 it doesn’t matter pour me a glass I’ll
01:35:58 pour me a glass of Pinot Noir any day
01:36:00 [Music]
01:36:03 um
01:36:05 I I’ve grown to prefer the red bitter
01:36:08 mature
01:36:09 okay more like a tabernacle
01:36:15 um yeah
01:36:16 I
01:36:23 we are to endure to the end and
01:36:25 sometimes yes
01:36:27 it really is
01:36:30 but without that strength
01:36:34 yes
01:36:38 yep
01:36:40 it’s still sweet at the first and I
01:36:43 still remember that Sweetness in fact I
01:36:45 still remember my first Sacrament with
01:36:46 wine
01:36:49 all right but well I think we’ve had
01:36:54 as Paul stated we need to stop being
01:36:56 children
01:36:57 and yes to mature yes indeed
01:37:02 it’s a process
01:37:04 but we do need to mature but I I think
01:37:07 you’re right we we’ve kind of I think
01:37:09 we’ve pretty much asked this one do a
01:37:11 fairly well
01:37:12 sure
01:37:12 [Laughter]
01:37:18 or did we want to do the the search real
01:37:21 quick because I think that was going to
01:37:22 be most of the word searches those
01:37:24 should be really fast real fast
01:37:26 let’s not let’s all make and let’s all
01:37:29 make a pact not to get too caught up in
01:37:32 it yeah yeah because I want to make sure
01:37:34 we do something for everybody right
01:37:36 because that’s
01:37:38 exactly it’s important
01:37:41 um
01:37:44 okay I’m gonna see if my video is gonna
01:37:47 stay calm for a moment yeah I’m I’m
01:37:50 loading my app hold on
01:37:53 Visual Studio takes a while to upload
01:37:56 and also the Universe thing or oh yeah
01:38:00 we can do that I think that’s part of
01:38:02 the searching yeah part of the word
01:38:03 searching okay
01:38:08 um
01:38:12 uh I like visual studio and that’s where
01:38:15 I live as a software engineer
01:38:18 but it’s a big program and so sometimes
01:38:22 it takes a while to start taking a
01:38:24 little while to load up
01:38:25 yeah if you download my app from my blog
01:38:29 it it doesn’t take so long to run
01:38:31 but I I do think I
01:38:34 I need to do an update where instead of
01:38:36 using XML it does something
01:38:39 more
01:38:42 more Excel like
01:38:43 so excited to set this up do you mind if
01:38:46 I give a little intro for sure okay yeah
01:38:49 because this one’s for you go ahead
01:38:50 awesome so basically we were having hard
01:38:56 discussion with certain individuals in a
01:39:00 certain group
01:39:01 shall remain unnamed you’re watching
01:39:05 this you know what I’m talking you know
01:39:06 who I’m talking about
01:39:08 anyway
01:39:09 uh and
01:39:12 one of the people in that group referred
01:39:15 to our heavenly mother
01:39:17 as the Queen of Heaven
01:39:20 oh well
01:39:25 what I what I did was I did a quick word
01:39:29 search for the term King Of Heaven first
01:39:32 to see if there’s anything in the
01:39:35 scriptures that even remotely discusses
01:39:38 the king of Heaven there’s nothing
01:39:40 according to the LDS tools uh well the
01:39:45 lds2 actually doesn’t do a full search
01:39:47 sadly but so one thing you may like well
01:39:51 Visual Studio is taking its pleasant
01:39:54 time I don’t know why it’s taking this
01:39:55 long
01:39:57 um here’s a post that would be helpful
01:39:58 and why it would be helpful is it shows
01:40:02 that there is no mother of Heaven
01:40:03 because some people
01:40:05 tie the Queen of Heaven with Mother
01:40:07 heaven or heavenly mother right and
01:40:10 that’s just not the case and this post
01:40:12 gets into that
01:40:15 um but
01:40:16 okay so it’s up so we can go do that
01:40:19 search but then I did a search in the
01:40:23 topical guide for
01:40:25 the Queen of Heaven and it pulled up
01:40:29 caramelastic and Jeremiah here we go
01:40:32 we’re up we’re up no yeah
01:40:35 okay fine
01:40:44 I want to give a proper answer
01:40:47 our YouTube Brothers by any chance maybe
01:40:53 I’m just wondering here by the way
01:40:56 it’s a possibility we might we might
01:41:00 have met each other one search
01:41:05 maybe at a family reunion
01:41:08 [Laughter]
01:41:13 we’ll skip the first 18 years
01:41:16 all right
01:41:18 anyways okay go ahead and finish your
01:41:20 little intro so
01:41:23 but basically basically the Queen of
01:41:25 Heaven in Jeremiah 6 and 44.
01:41:29 is referring to the Jews
01:41:34 worshiping asteroth instead of God
01:41:40 Yahweh
01:41:42 which is worshiping Satan right yes I
01:41:46 mean yeah you take it to it take it to
01:41:48 its natural extent
01:41:50 it’s worshiping State and it’s
01:41:52 worshiping state
01:41:55 um
01:41:56 the scriptures are full of contrast okay
01:41:59 yeah heavenly father is Yahweh obviously
01:42:03 and then
01:42:05 the queen or mother is the opposite
01:42:10 it’s not hard to see where I’m going
01:42:14 with this right let’s say yeah
01:42:17 there is no mother in heaven
01:42:20 literally because there’s nothing
01:42:25 yeah Spirits are Eternal they’re K
01:42:27 they’re co-eternal with God
01:42:28 yeah this is the dominant covenants if
01:42:32 you believe in the restoration you
01:42:33 believe that your spirit is called
01:42:35 Eternal it wasn’t born it was it’s in
01:42:38 the Book of Mormon too but it’s in I my
01:42:40 post brings it out from Abraham but it
01:42:42 it it’s it’s everywhere
01:42:44 yeah doesn’t that song High to collab
01:42:47 sing about a heavenly mother
01:42:50 that’s because
01:42:53 well that’s also written by Eliza R Snow
01:42:56 Yeah and uh who was it who was basically
01:42:59 a pagan Immortal clothing well and a
01:43:02 liar
01:43:04 she was a pagan of Mormon clothing yeah
01:43:09 yeah I think it says something about I
01:43:10 have a mother there or something like
01:43:12 that well I’m sure she does
01:43:19 and you can keep that on the recording
01:43:21 I’m not afraid to put that out there
01:43:24 oh
01:43:26 um
01:43:26 I
01:43:28 the reason why Rod Meldrum
01:43:31 screw blocked me from their Facebook
01:43:34 stuff is because I was defending Joseph
01:43:37 Smith against her
01:43:39 specifically a known liar
01:43:43 but yet we’re supposed to believe a
01:43:44 known liar against the prophet of the
01:43:47 restoration
01:43:49 huh
01:43:51 who do you believe
01:43:53 you know it’s kind of like it’s kind of
01:43:56 like we’re supposed to believe the words
01:43:59 of a scholar who pushes New Age occult
01:44:03 ideas
01:44:04 over uh the word of God considering his
01:44:08 word
01:44:09 yeah
01:44:11 the bergamites really twisted the
01:44:14 restoration
01:44:17 really which is sad because that’s the
01:44:19 one I grew up in but
01:44:21 yeah they in fact oh that reminds me
01:44:25 regarding Temple that we
01:44:28 um since I’m I’m bringing that up
01:44:31 one thing that Yahweh told me
01:44:33 about the temple is the occult elitist
01:44:37 part of their ceremonies is dedicating
01:44:40 all their belongings to that occult
01:44:44 yes
01:44:45 do you do in LDS temples
01:44:49 dedicate everything to the church
01:44:52 right and even in the sections of the
01:44:55 Doctrine and Covenants that talk about
01:44:57 um
01:44:58 consecration
01:45:00 it never says that you’re to dedicate
01:45:02 everything to the churches well to the
01:45:05 main thing it says you
01:45:07 put it all in the storehouse and then
01:45:09 it’s all portioned out as people need it
01:45:11 we we could say this for another time
01:45:14 it’s already but anyway moving I just
01:45:16 want to say this when I’ve studied
01:45:19 consecration in the DNC every time every
01:45:24 verse I see tithing
01:45:26 yeah tithing is a consecration whenever
01:45:30 you give anything to Yahweh tithing it’s
01:45:33 a consecration but we’ll let’s go back
01:45:36 to our search moving on King Of Heaven
01:45:39 okay so I have King and heaven and
01:45:42 hopefully I spelled that right I’m
01:45:43 pretty sure I did yeah
01:45:52 okay
01:45:57 so it’s searching
01:46:00 so
01:46:02 okay so where is so so this is just
01:46:06 being in heaven in the verse it’s not
01:46:09 necessarily the same so what we can do
01:46:12 and maybe what maybe we should do first
01:46:14 king
01:46:16 maybe this is more what you want
01:46:18 yes we actually want it in the same
01:46:20 they’re right next to each other right
01:46:22 like you want it like that so let’s do
01:46:25 it like this first
01:46:28 um it’s searching
01:46:29 and
01:46:33 so let’s go take this put it in a nicer
01:46:37 place
01:46:40 ah there are some things on the king of
01:46:42 Heaven
01:46:45 but the thing with Nebuchadnezzar
01:46:48 extolling the king of Heaven
01:46:50 you have to look at that
01:46:53 yes
01:46:55 so
01:46:59 yeah so this this search does better
01:47:01 search than the obvious gospel search I
01:47:05 figured that’s why I wanted to do it
01:47:07 yeah
01:47:09 um you ought to get the program and I
01:47:13 it’s not too hard to use other than you
01:47:15 may not like logic
01:47:19 [Music]
01:47:20 um but I need to do an update where it’s
01:47:23 doing something more like Excel than XML
01:47:25 and I think that’ll make it easier for
01:47:27 people to use but anyways yeah uh here’s
01:47:30 what we have
01:47:31 I’ll let you drive it now
01:47:34 actually yes that God is often referred
01:47:38 Yahweh is often referred to as the king
01:47:40 of Heaven
01:47:42 uh so here’s Daniel praising extols the
01:47:45 king of heaven so I would say that one’s
01:47:47 a positive
01:47:48 Charlie that Yahweh is considered King
01:47:50 Of Heaven at times which I’m actually
01:47:52 explained with
01:47:54 but it’s good to double check the
01:47:56 scriptures right right for he that
01:47:58 raises up a king against me shall perish
01:48:01 for I the Lord and the king of Heaven
01:48:04 that’s actually Yahweh
01:48:06 giving himself that title right yep
01:48:11 and so yes he is the king of Heaven
01:48:15 foreign very soon shine forth among all
01:48:18 the children of them
01:48:22 um in fact just just hindsight
01:48:25 um what is a kingdom without a king
01:48:27 right but anyways there’s a really
01:48:30 interesting here’s a really interesting
01:48:32 one and this Melchizedek having thus
01:48:34 established righteousness was called The
01:48:37 King Of Heaven by his people
01:48:39 or in other words the king of peace
01:48:43 that seems to be an indication
01:48:47 of something and I’m not sure what
01:48:51 well um Melchizedek is a type of Yeshua
01:48:56 so I
01:48:59 um but is this they see this going along
01:49:02 with this possibly the second coming
01:49:05 because he’s gonna rain right yeah my
01:49:08 but my whole thing is is this idolatry
01:49:12 by this people
01:49:15 which were translated I wouldn’t tend to
01:49:18 think no
01:49:20 um I don’t know off top my head anywhere
01:49:22 there’s negative context with
01:49:25 Melchizedek that would justify such an
01:49:27 idea off topic yeah uh yeah and neither
01:49:30 do I I’m just I’m just asking
01:49:33 is it idolatry to apply this title to a
01:49:36 man
01:49:37 well
01:49:39 um looking at this verse I would answer
01:49:41 no
01:49:43 okay and this is the time without this
01:49:45 verse I would have said yes though to be
01:49:47 honest but with this verse I would say
01:49:49 no
01:49:50 yeah
01:49:52 because just
01:49:55 but that does put a whole new but that
01:49:58 does put a whole new spin on the whole
01:50:00 idea of all that the father has
01:50:02 in my opinion
01:50:06 well we are supposed to be like him
01:50:08 right in the same character as him yeah
01:50:13 um and this would be showing that he’s
01:50:15 having the same characters
01:50:17 and goal as him
01:50:20 but
01:50:21 but it is
01:50:24 weird that and just saying this for
01:50:27 myself and calling myself out right
01:50:29 without those firsts I would have called
01:50:31 it idolatry but with the verse I would
01:50:34 say it’s not
01:50:35 nothing
01:50:38 so that’s that’s
01:50:41 well I mean and I so I’m glad we
01:50:43 actually did the search that’s something
01:50:45 stuff to ponder on let’s do Queen of
01:50:48 Heaven We we’ve been wrong we’ve been
01:50:51 proven wrong on the king of Heaven sure
01:50:56 oops
01:50:58 see if there’s actually any any positive
01:51:01 connotation yes to the term uh that one
01:51:05 I’m pretty sure there’s not but I’m
01:51:07 pretty sure but I think but I think we
01:51:09 have to do our due diligence oh yeah I
01:51:11 agree with you I agree
01:51:26 this is definitely something that I
01:51:28 would love to share with my uh share
01:51:30 with my friends about who seem to think
01:51:32 that the idea of the Queen of Heaven is
01:51:35 a great idea
01:51:37 um
01:51:39 sure it’s it’s not but yeah
01:51:46 um thank you all with all kinds of
01:51:47 things
01:51:48 well we’re supposed to be bereans right
01:51:51 yep
01:51:59 oh well I’m guessing uh they’re all
01:52:02 Jeremiah most of them 44 so I’m guessing
01:52:04 it’s all going to say they’re bad but I
01:52:07 said yeah and this is more than what you
01:52:10 brought up
01:52:11 oh seven okay yes
01:52:13 the children gather wood in the father’s
01:52:15 Kindle the fire and I think he miscided
01:52:17 his I miscided it was seven Jeremiah
01:52:20 seven the children together it bothers
01:52:22 Kendall the fire the women need their
01:52:23 dough to make because this is their case
01:52:27 this is what tells us that
01:52:30 this is what tells us the Purim is
01:52:32 actually a pagan tradition they crept
01:52:35 into the Jewish uh lexicon
01:52:38 yeah
01:52:39 three to seven and to pour out drink
01:52:42 offerings onto other gods that they may
01:52:44 provoke me to anger this is a negative
01:52:47 connotation yes it is
01:52:54 and this
01:52:56 is now let’s go down to the next one
01:53:00 but we will certainly do whatsoever
01:53:02 thing goeth forth out of our own mouth
01:53:04 to burn incense unto the Queen of Heaven
01:53:07 these people are being rebellious yeah
01:53:10 whatever I do and burn incense so
01:53:13 whatever we do our own mouth our own
01:53:16 mouth and then burn incense onto the guy
01:53:19 goes back to uh Moses not Moses Aaron’s
01:53:23 sons where they were destroyed for
01:53:25 bringing uh a Strange Fire strange
01:53:27 incense Strange Fire yep well it is
01:53:29 strange incense but it certainly refer
01:53:31 to a strange fire but yeah which
01:53:33 actually also goes back to strange
01:53:36 prayers but anyways that’s another
01:53:44 offerings unto her as we have done we
01:53:46 and our fathers our Kings and our
01:53:48 princes in the cities of Judah and in
01:53:50 the streets of Jerusalem for they had
01:53:52 for there we had we plenty of victuals
01:53:54 and were well and saw no evil and here
01:53:56 they are lying I know why you guys you
01:53:59 two know this one so well
01:54:03 did you get it
01:54:05 Judah sorry okay yeah
01:54:09 but since we left off to burn incense to
01:54:12 the Queen of Heaven and pour out drink
01:54:13 offerings unto her we have wanted all
01:54:15 things
01:54:16 life was always greener on the other
01:54:18 side of the pasture
01:54:20 yeah and have been consumed by the sword
01:54:22 of my family and when we burned incense
01:54:25 the Queen of Heaven and poured out drink
01:54:27 offerings on her did we make her cakes
01:54:29 to worship her and pour out drink
01:54:30 offerings unto her without our men
01:54:32 Jeremiah 44 25 thus saith the Lord of
01:54:35 hosts the god of Israel saying you and
01:54:38 your wives have both spoken with your
01:54:39 mouths and fulfilled with your hand
01:54:41 saying we will surely perform our vows
01:54:44 that we have vowed to burn incense unto
01:54:46 the Queen of Heaven and to pour out
01:54:47 drink offerings unto her Michelle surely
01:54:50 accomplish your vows and surely perform
01:54:51 your vows and then if you take it on a
01:54:54 little farther he’s like and I will
01:54:56 destroy you
01:54:58 yeah so I I mean we can broaden our
01:55:02 search on the Queen of Heaven one if you
01:55:04 want no but I I think those are bad for
01:55:07 people to realize that all of these are
01:55:10 just this is rebelliousness against God
01:55:14 there is nothing righteous in anything
01:55:17 related to the Queen of Heaven
01:55:20 uh let’s change the search a little bit
01:55:24 um
01:55:25 Mr Queen and heaven and those same
01:55:29 verses okay it just just how to you know
01:55:33 be thorough
01:55:35 hopefully he doesn’t give too many
01:55:38 hopefully
01:55:39 uh let’s see
01:55:47 uh so it’s the same back pain once it’s
01:55:51 the same verses so yeah even the broader
01:55:54 search
01:55:55 they’re all negative Queen of Heaven
01:55:58 there is nothing associated with
01:56:01 righteousness in it that is associated
01:56:04 with the Queen of Heaven now one last
01:56:07 Search Lord of the universe
01:56:09 oh okay this was actually in a recent
01:56:11 episode of The Chosen
01:56:15 oh I don’t remember that
01:56:18 okay
01:56:20 it was in episode eight
01:56:24 Okay so
01:56:27 if I recall right the universe is not
01:56:31 even in the Bible
01:56:33 but we need to search it yeah yeah yeah
01:56:36 because we have because we I already
01:56:38 have an a-sayer saying that we don’t
01:56:40 have a right to be concerned about its
01:56:42 years
01:56:44 well so I have mixed feelings about the
01:56:47 Trojan saw some of it I like and some of
01:56:49 I don’t but I just how we’re trying to
01:56:52 you know expose Lord of the Rings and so
01:56:54 I’ve been thinking about things a little
01:56:55 more but
01:56:57 the first episode
01:56:59 Lilith
01:57:01 that’s the cult
01:57:02 yep
01:57:04 lord of the universe as a single title
01:57:08 well I’m just doing universe
01:57:10 okay oh yeah let’s see
01:57:14 yeah wait a minute
01:57:17 did that that okay let’s try that again
01:57:21 yeah let me did I not hit
01:57:33 uh uh yeah that’s not the universe isn’t
01:57:38 in any of those you’re you’re yeah for
01:57:40 some reason weird
01:57:41 something something’s not going here
01:57:43 you’re going right here
01:57:45 revealed
01:57:49 the bug is start okay
01:57:55 okay
01:57:57 wow
01:57:58 open
01:58:09 there we go okay so I don’t know what
01:58:11 happened this is anyways sorry about
01:58:13 that people
01:58:16 you’re good
01:58:17 the word universe
01:58:20 is not in the scriptures
01:58:22 and so
01:58:24 um
01:58:26 and off top of my head I don’t know
01:58:28 another word that could be used for that
01:58:30 that would be in the scriptures as in
01:58:32 just trying to be
01:58:33 thorough right
01:58:36 um
01:58:40 Seventh Heaven or no the third no it’s
01:58:43 the third heaven sorry it’s not the
01:58:45 seventh the third heaven but
01:58:48 um
01:58:50 that’s not right I don’t know anyways
01:58:54 that’s the in season three of episode
01:58:56 eight of the chosen they do a whole
01:59:00 leaning Ritual from Kabbalah
01:59:04 in the in the scene where Peter
01:59:08 is walking on like starts walking on the
01:59:12 water and then sinks
01:59:13 [Music]
01:59:14 they do a it’s almost like Jesus planned
01:59:19 the whole thing where he had seven women
01:59:22 standing at the side of a pool
01:59:25 while a woman went down to be baptized
01:59:28 AKA were cleansed purification
01:59:31 purification thank you well they they
01:59:34 have her um Peter’s wife doing the
01:59:36 merkaba is that what you’re referring to
01:59:38 yes yes
01:59:41 so
01:59:43 the symbolism
01:59:46 if you look at this itself is not
01:59:49 Kabbalah
01:59:51 um because that’s just that’s baptism
01:59:53 and they did so I I’m not sure what part
01:59:56 of it that you’re saying makes it
01:59:58 specifically Kabbalah how is that
02:00:01 there’s nobody there’s no priesthood or
02:00:05 person there but okay sure sure yeah
02:00:09 that’s true it’s it’s women taking her
02:00:12 in there and there’s no there’s no
02:00:14 priesthood in there doing it in fact
02:00:18 um
02:00:19 that’s cabalic it’s kabbalic yeah here’s
02:00:22 an interesting thing I I like carite
02:00:25 Jews in general in fact there was a time
02:00:29 I called myself a carrot Mormon but then
02:00:31 I changed it to Nazarene Mormon which is
02:00:33 more appropriate but
02:00:35 that’s a side
02:00:37 no I’m not going to get too much in
02:00:40 but carrots
02:00:43 baptisms the the women actually go on
02:00:46 completely naked which when you which is
02:00:49 not Torah Torah states that they washed
02:00:52 their clothes meaning they had their
02:00:54 clothes on
02:00:56 to go do the baptism
02:00:58 yep right after they made the Covenant
02:01:00 they went and washed their clothes
02:01:01 that’s baptism
02:01:04 they didn’t go to a washer machine
02:01:07 they didn’t pull out their uh they
02:01:10 didn’t pull out their trusty uh
02:01:11 washboard
02:01:13 washboards and scrubbers and
02:01:16 no they did baptism
02:01:19 and as she’s going into the water
02:01:22 they’re all chanting I’m sorry that
02:01:25 reeks of Norse tradition oh I I didn’t
02:01:29 notice that
02:01:31 yeah
02:01:33 and then as she comes out
02:01:36 she’s got her she has her arms and she
02:01:39 has her arms in the position of the and
02:01:42 she has her arms in the in the uh
02:01:44 position of the mother goddess
02:01:50 when she comes out of the water
02:01:53 so let’s see
02:01:56 uh I didn’t catch that of course I I
02:01:58 don’t know too much of Kabbalah
02:02:01 so
02:02:03 no that’s that’s not necessarily
02:02:05 Kabbalah that’s just straight up
02:02:06 freaking Pagan okay well I just well
02:02:09 Kabbalah is basically Pagan Judaism well
02:02:12 right uh yeah yeah okay so
02:02:16 mechanism
02:02:22 foreign
02:02:28 right down here
02:02:31 oh yeah right there when she’s doing
02:02:34 their prayer thing
02:02:36 uh so which picture this one right here
02:02:40 right yeah uh
02:02:42 right here where she’s doing her prayer
02:02:44 thing Queen of Heaven this one
02:02:48 yeah that’s the position her hands are
02:02:49 in and she’s quote unquote praying or
02:02:52 coming out you know to go along with it
02:02:55 that’s the position of Mary’s hands
02:02:57 right yep Mary is the Queen of Heaven
02:03:01 There He is the Queen of Heaven that’s
02:03:03 why she’s blue right which is Venus
02:03:06 Venus is blue
02:03:09 um so that makes some sense I didn’t
02:03:11 catch that
02:03:12 of course I didn’t
02:03:14 know that part but anyways I well this
02:03:18 is part of I mean my uh misspent youth
02:03:22 can’t be for it it can’t be for nothing
02:03:25 well I mean I guess it’s to help expose
02:03:28 right nope
02:03:32 yeah and this the exposed heart
02:03:36 we’re supposed to protect our heart with
02:03:37 Torah not have it exposed as they do the
02:03:41 Catholics have it exposed on Mary and
02:03:43 Joshua right or Christ I’ll call that
02:03:47 one Jesus
02:03:49 um because that one’s not yeah sure
02:03:52 that’s right it’s like exposed heart
02:03:55 just like E.T heading exposed heart
02:03:57 yep the Masonic symbol Queen of Heaven
02:04:02 um her her after she pushes her after
02:04:05 she pushes her hair up the the hair out
02:04:08 of her eyes her arms go out like that
02:04:11 just like that
02:04:13 I didn’t catch that part but that makes
02:04:14 sense
02:04:16 yeah it’s everything’s carefully
02:04:18 corroded wrapped oh yeah that is for
02:04:22 sure
02:04:23 um
02:04:24 and while thinking of what they were
02:04:28 doing things what they were doing was
02:04:30 what they were doing was performing a
02:04:32 ritual on screen
02:04:34 yeah yeah
02:04:36 no that makes sense I didn’t catch that
02:04:38 but yeah you’re you guys are right on
02:04:40 that wow
02:04:42 yeah their show is evil
02:04:47 yeah I’m seeing it more
02:04:53 which is sad because a lot of people are
02:04:57 like I I there’s still Parts I like I’ll
02:05:00 be honest but I am seeing more evilness
02:05:03 in it
02:05:04 as I think most of
02:05:07 and I’m sorry the part was little James
02:05:09 I really don’t agree with because it’s a
02:05:12 bunch of everybody crap
02:05:14 yeah where he wouldn’t heal him
02:05:18 yeah the faith not to be healed yeah he
02:05:21 shows the iron will not to be healed
02:05:23 yeah yeah yeah well that sounds like the
02:05:25 I wonder if they got that from canalius
02:05:27 church they must have got that one from
02:05:29 David A Bednar yeah
02:05:36 yeah I I noticed one of my favorite
02:05:38 human beings
02:05:41 why oh sorry you like it more than me
02:05:46 I I I’m hurt
02:05:51 I don’t he’s not one of my favorite
02:05:53 human beings I know
02:06:00 it’s okay he’s doing it again I know
02:06:05 yeah
02:06:07 well I don’t I don’t I don’t want my
02:06:11 friend I don’t want my friends to feel
02:06:12 enough
02:06:14 you are an important friend for me
02:06:18 um
02:06:19 so
02:06:21 um
02:06:22 I I think uh are we done with that or do
02:06:25 you wanna yes we are done with that but
02:06:27 we have known we have shown on this
02:06:29 recording what I wanted to show okay so
02:06:32 I I think Zack’s just going to take a
02:06:34 little longer and we may not finish so
02:06:36 I’m gonna do my thing which I think will
02:06:38 be short
02:06:40 um if that’s okay with Zach
02:06:42 um and then we’ll do X okay as long as
02:06:45 until we’re done
02:06:47 um
02:06:51 so I I was thinking about
02:06:53 um after yeshua’s death and resurrection
02:06:56 and high holidays
02:06:59 and the mighty one
02:07:02 so here here’s
02:07:05 a cult collaborate I can’t say that word
02:07:10 of things okay
02:07:13 and Second Coming
02:07:17 so 30 by 8 right
02:07:21 is the destruction
02:07:25 right yes that’s Passover
02:07:29 that’s when
02:07:31 the wicked are judged
02:07:33 was Passover
02:07:35 which to me is another Witness
02:07:40 that the second coming starts with
02:07:42 Passover
02:07:44 the quick or the the dead or quickened
02:07:48 at first fruits
02:07:50 correct
02:07:52 that’s given to us in Doctrine covenants
02:07:54 88 several other places in scriptures
02:07:57 on this subject let’s go look at that
02:07:59 real quick
02:08:01 because
02:08:03 you that’s your favorite one no
02:08:06 wonderful it’s my home base yeah
02:08:11 that’s a good one I didn’t didn’t know
02:08:13 that one but I like you guys know I I
02:08:16 don’t focus on the dating too much but
02:08:17 okay DNC what
02:08:20 88. uh I just read it today but the 88’s
02:08:24 a long section so just keep
02:08:27 and let’s see lines of people’s
02:08:30 uh
02:08:32 yeah okay here we go all right
02:08:36 all right
02:08:37 okay
02:08:40 here we are here we are
02:08:43 and the saints that are upon the Earth
02:08:45 who are alive there’s 96.
02:08:49 Chris will be silenced in heaven for the
02:08:52 space of half an hour so this is telling
02:08:54 us when this is because it’s the same
02:08:56 place in Revelation where it says
02:08:58 silences in heaven for the space back
02:09:00 now and immediately after shell the
02:09:03 curtain of Heaven be unfolded as a
02:09:05 scroll is unfolded after it is rolled up
02:09:07 and the face of the Lord shall be
02:09:09 unveiled and the saints that are upon
02:09:11 the Earth who are alive shall be
02:09:12 quickened and be caught up to meet him
02:09:14 and they who have slept in their graves
02:09:15 shall come forth and their graves shall
02:09:17 be opened and they also shall be caught
02:09:19 up to meet him in the midst of the
02:09:20 pillar of Heaven they are Christ the
02:09:23 first fruits
02:09:26 uh you mean it’s not an ordinance
02:09:30 sorry just going and it’s not something
02:09:33 that it’s not something that just slowly
02:09:35 happens to you either yeah yeah anyways
02:09:39 sorry about that it’s just we’re on the
02:09:40 temple yeah just do an ordinance and
02:09:42 translation slowly occur no they’re not
02:09:45 doing some hand Masonic hand thing which
02:09:48 is actually Hiram Abyss
02:09:51 is why they’re saying that mine mine is
02:09:54 mine is a reference to these people who
02:09:57 were talking about an ordinance that
02:09:59 makes them a member of the Church of the
02:10:01 firstborn and they’re slowly being
02:10:03 translated these translation Cults oh
02:10:06 yeah I I know I yeah I’ve come across
02:10:09 that let’s just BS sorry yeah they’re
02:10:13 all safe the real way it’s [ __ ] yeah
02:10:16 they who shall descend with him first
02:10:18 and they who are on the earth and in
02:10:20 their graves who are first caught up to
02:10:22 meet him and all this by the voice of
02:10:24 the sounding of the Trump of God so yes
02:10:26 the judgments begin prop the judgments
02:10:29 begin probably at Passover
02:10:31 and then at first fruits we have the
02:10:34 resurrection of the first resurrection
02:10:38 yeah at first fruits so
02:10:42 more
02:10:45 in fact this just confirms this more to
02:10:48 me
02:10:49 Yahweh does things at his appointed
02:10:52 times
02:10:54 yes
02:10:56 aka the high holidays that’s when he
02:10:59 does
02:11:01 disappointed things that’s the appointed
02:11:04 time guess what guys
02:11:06 this shows the Mysteries are in Torah
02:11:11 oh wait I think I have a post on that
02:11:14 Mysteries are in Torah they’re not
02:11:17 somewhere else they’re not uh they’re
02:11:19 not waiting for you to twist and torture
02:11:21 them out they’re there yeah uh because
02:11:25 that’s what happened
02:11:28 so I I want to continue my thing unless
02:11:31 you Matt you want to do but you go ahead
02:11:33 and do
02:11:34 it I don’t know Matt had something real
02:11:36 quick that’s fine go ahead I just said I
02:11:38 was being obnoxious and I said pick up a
02:11:40 book and read it Oh you mean the book
02:11:44 yes so go going on I think
02:11:50 so that’s Passover Pentecost we get the
02:11:54 law we see that in third Nephi 11 and on
02:11:57 right
02:12:00 where’s Tabernacles
02:12:07 well
02:12:08 that’s Zion
02:12:11 they had science
02:12:13 Tabernacles is Zion the Tabernacles Come
02:12:17 Down Bam
02:12:20 well Tabernacles is representative Zion
02:12:24 right that’s
02:12:27 and they had time
02:12:30 not right
02:12:31 at
02:12:33 um
02:12:34 right after uh Pentecost it was some
02:12:37 after and I would speculate I don’t know
02:12:40 if the text has enough to State this
02:12:43 three months later
02:12:46 for three moons
02:12:48 yeah
02:12:52 yeah right you know so there’s the
02:12:56 judgment
02:12:57 oh wow
02:12:59 yeah of atonement is all the law
02:13:02 and then we have then we get the Zion
02:13:07 yeah
02:13:08 so what’s day of atonement in all of
02:13:10 this because that’s that’s the Judgment
02:13:13 Day that’s when you’re either
02:13:17 right and I hear you on that but the the
02:13:21 big punishment is in general speaking is
02:13:24 day of atonement I mean uh Passover
02:13:27 yeah
02:13:29 yeah that’s true because that’s when all
02:13:31 but but you can
02:13:33 Dave atoma is when you
02:13:35 this is where it’s it’s muddled up a
02:13:38 little bit I’m not I don’t have a good
02:13:40 answer for that for right now
02:13:42 right okay so that’s fine but that’s a
02:13:45 really that’s really interesting but I
02:13:48 you see Moses lot
02:13:52 here in their Nephi right which these
02:13:57 events that they’re Nephi
02:13:59 are prophetic of the second coming
02:14:03 okay right okay yeah okay
02:14:11 [Music]
02:14:14 I haven’t figured this one out
02:14:16 completely yet okay
02:14:21 I speculate
02:14:23 yeah well I you know I think I’ll go
02:14:26 ahead I think I think everybody does
02:14:28 speculate from time to time well I think
02:14:30 this one what I just said is more solid
02:14:33 okay this one
02:14:35 is more speculation
02:14:37 okay
02:14:40 I speculate the day or the time
02:14:45 that the mighty one will be marred
02:14:49 14th day of the first moon
02:14:57 awesome
02:15:01 uh well uh Matt he’s not necessarily
02:15:04 talking about this year
02:15:06 no I I just thought I’d point that out
02:15:11 [Laughter]
02:15:13 the name General time frame that issue
02:15:15 that is soon that’s a Passover is coming
02:15:19 out well
02:15:21 it’s annual so it’s always
02:15:23 [Laughter]
02:15:27 I’m not going to speculate on your on
02:15:29 recording but yeah no no no I’m not
02:15:33 saying yeah but that’s actually that’s
02:15:35 actually an interesting that’s actually
02:15:37 an interesting thought
02:15:38 so and I I don’t know that one’s more
02:15:42 speculative in my mind okay so here’s
02:15:45 another one in this one I don’t believe
02:15:46 is speculative I think it’s actually the
02:15:49 case so let’s go to Isaiah 52.
02:15:55 good good it’s going to show me how it
02:15:59 is the case
02:16:00 no this is another thing not that one
02:16:03 okay oh okay
02:16:06 um I I I I believe what I just said but
02:16:10 I I I feel like I need more than what I
02:16:13 have to show up from the scriptures but
02:16:17 anyways
02:16:18 um
02:16:19 so
02:16:21 like I’ve mentioned earlier the mighty
02:16:24 and strong one
02:16:26 does not go into the kingdom okay
02:16:30 and I mentioned how Nephi is a mining
02:16:33 and strong one and his
02:16:35 he was calling was changed from the head
02:16:38 of the church
02:16:39 to Apostle sent one out to the
02:16:43 non-believers right
02:16:47 so one of the things that the mining
02:16:49 strong one is to do is to go and teach
02:16:52 these
02:16:54 ways to the Nations to The Many Nations
02:16:57 AKA not in Zion
02:17:02 so you you believe that you will never
02:17:04 set his foot inside well I don’t know
02:17:07 about that
02:17:11 I don’t know if I’d go quite far as what
02:17:12 happened with Moses but his
02:17:16 primary purpose at that point is to go
02:17:19 teach the Nations he will be a sent one
02:17:21 an apostle
02:17:24 okay yes and I can see that here and I
02:17:28 see it with Nephi
02:17:29 right
02:17:31 yeah
02:17:32 all right yeah it’s there I’m I’m pretty
02:17:35 confident for more reasons than that I’m
02:17:38 giving you right now
02:17:40 um
02:17:41 but I I do believe he’s going to be a
02:17:44 sent one and I can see that from Nephi
02:17:47 son of Nephi and third Nephi
02:17:52 did I say Nephi enough anyways sorry
02:17:55 um I I think you need to say it one more
02:17:57 time
02:18:00 um but I can also bring it out here
02:18:02 right
02:18:09 he’s going to go to the the Nations
02:18:11 and teach them
02:18:15 anyways uh The Marked part is more
02:18:18 speculation but to me it makes sense
02:18:22 yeah
02:18:23 um
02:18:24 yeah
02:18:26 when was Yeshua Lord
02:18:29 that is death
02:18:31 yeah Passover which Isaiah 52 is not
02:18:36 oh well actually yeah I can see that as
02:18:39 a yeah I can see that as a really solid
02:18:42 type right there yeah because
02:18:49 the prophets
02:18:51 especially the things that are brought
02:18:52 out about the prophet’s life in the
02:18:55 scriptures
02:18:57 point us to Yeshua right
02:19:01 and so
02:19:04 when was Yeshua Mart
02:19:07 Passover
02:19:08 you know
02:19:11 and to to go along with that type
02:19:17 one should the mighty and strong one be
02:19:18 marred
02:19:21 pencil
02:19:23 because as far as I know he’s the only
02:19:26 Prophet that’s talked about being marked
02:19:28 right
02:19:29 yeah
02:19:31 the perfect
02:19:32 in fact the only time for I think to be
02:19:35 appropriate well I mean yeah I mean
02:19:37 there’s other prophets that marred one
02:19:41 guy on spot in half
02:19:43 yeah but it’s not Isaiah
02:19:45 [Laughter]
02:19:48 right yeah that’s not important
02:19:51 it’s not recorded in scriptures except
02:19:53 in apocryphal scripture that’s for sure
02:19:55 but
02:19:57 apocryphalt scriptures isn’t
02:20:00 it’s pseudo scriptures it’s not written
02:20:02 by prophets bringing out
02:20:05 pointing us to Yeshua in his patterns
02:20:07 right right there they tend to be a
02:20:11 little more um
02:20:14 out on the edge sure
02:20:17 um
02:20:18 man-centered or men ideas centered were
02:20:21 full-fledged scriptures or real
02:20:22 scriptures or not
02:20:24 they’re actually really inspired were
02:20:27 instead of men just bringing things out
02:20:29 all right
02:20:31 Isaiah 52
02:20:33 was inspired
02:20:35 if not revealed right I don’t remember
02:20:38 which one it is off top my head but it’s
02:20:40 inspired or revealed meaning it’s well
02:20:43 the thing that you have to bear in mind
02:20:45 is the description of the book of Isaiah
02:20:48 which is given in chapter one
02:20:51 says the vision of the prophet Isaiah
02:20:56 yeah okay there are multiple and there
02:20:58 are multiple Visions sure right I’m sure
02:21:01 they did not I’m sure it wasn’t a single
02:21:04 66 chapter Vision sure well I think his
02:21:09 life would show that but anyways
02:21:13 well enough with that unless you guys
02:21:15 want to so no I think that’s good let’s
02:21:17 let’s move
02:21:21 about getting into Zechariah yeah that’s
02:21:25 in fact let me get
02:21:28 let’s get the Kindle up just in case
02:21:31 there’s jsts and I kind of doubt there
02:21:34 is just
02:21:36 Joseph Smith didn’t there seems to have
02:21:39 been everything but he he focused on
02:21:41 what he thought that he feels you know
02:21:44 what the really interesting thing that I
02:21:46 thought I haven’t given all these people
02:21:47 to complain about the scriptures because
02:21:49 of the deuteronomists
02:21:53 he only did one change
02:21:56 to the book of Deuteronomy
02:22:01 oh that’s their complaint that was to
02:22:03 add that was the ad of scripture
02:22:04 detailing the loss of the high
02:22:07 priesthood
02:22:10 okay
02:22:11 but
02:22:12 I would think that would be more go
02:22:15 against their Theory than supportive
02:22:17 yeah that’s that’s my point it goes
02:22:20 against it
02:22:22 for all these people who complain about
02:22:26 the work of the those Wicked
02:22:30 deuteronomists who
02:22:33 burned our Bibles to the point where
02:22:35 they’re unrecognizable practically uh
02:22:39 maybe I’m being a little dramatic here
02:22:41 wow but I I think you’re being true to
02:22:44 their point though
02:22:45 yeah
02:22:48 um the silver scroll
02:22:50 defeats yeah
02:22:52 that theory
02:22:54 yeah plain and simple
02:22:57 um and I think even careful reading of
02:22:59 book Mormon and New Testament would
02:23:01 defeat it but it felt actually just yeah
02:23:05 just careful reading of the what I I
02:23:08 think I think somebody needs to tell
02:23:10 Jesus Christ and use corrupted scripture
02:23:12 to defeat with it
02:23:14 yeah and I
02:23:21 these sacrifices point to Yeshua they
02:23:26 really do yeah
02:23:27 yeah yeah but
02:23:32 yeah Wicked Hearts I want to see that oh
02:23:38 this is sad they’re one guy in LDS
02:23:41 Freedom Forum he may need to hear this
02:23:45 but
02:23:46 um
02:23:50 he has tried to convince me that the day
02:23:53 of atonement is about Joseph Smith not
02:23:55 Yeshua
02:23:58 and he was being serious about it
02:24:00 uh
02:24:02 uh
02:24:03 uh
02:24:05 enough of that let’s go to Zechariah
02:24:08 Chapter six
02:24:13 um yeah I agree with you there
02:24:16 [Laughter]
02:24:19 so Zach do you want to drive us since
02:24:21 this is more for you or do you want one
02:24:23 of us to do it
02:24:29 um
02:24:30 foreign
02:24:33 read it or you know
02:24:36 um be in charge
02:24:39 do you want to bring up if anything I’ll
02:24:41 at least give a little a hint of why you
02:24:44 want to look at it
02:24:45 if nothing else
02:24:50 I guess like
02:24:51 the connection between this and
02:24:53 revolution
02:24:56 yeah because they both talk about the
02:24:58 four horses right yeah
02:25:01 uh and the and this one’s a little more
02:25:04 detailed that the horses the horses are
02:25:07 connected with chariots
02:25:12 sorry Terence in general are have to go
02:25:15 with war
02:25:17 um I don’t know here
02:25:18 but
02:25:20 um one I can think of one case that it’s
02:25:22 not with war right
02:25:24 um someone going up into heaven on one
02:25:27 but
02:25:28 yeah
02:25:29 um anyways I guess we need to start
02:25:31 reading through and talking about it
02:25:34 and I turned and lifted up mine eyes and
02:25:36 looked and behold there came four
02:25:38 chariots out from between two mountains
02:25:41 and the mountains were mountains of
02:25:42 brass
02:25:46 the first Chariot were red horses
02:25:50 the second Chariot black horses the
02:25:52 third Chariot White Horse the fourth
02:25:54 Chariot bristleton bay horses but then I
02:25:57 answered and said on the Lord and the
02:25:59 angel had talked with me what are these
02:26:00 my Lord hold on real quick I’m just
02:26:02 trying brass
02:26:06 as in like in the brass plates I’m going
02:26:08 off the vague memory we’d have maybe we
02:26:10 should double check but I think brass
02:26:12 has to do with the law if I remember
02:26:14 correctly
02:26:16 [Music]
02:26:17 silver has to do with judgment so these
02:26:21 are judgments well uh
02:26:26 we’ve talked about mountains before well
02:26:29 mountains have to do with the law and I
02:26:31 think brass is let’s
02:26:34 because what we’re trying to understand
02:26:35 this so I think it’s fine to Sidetrack
02:26:37 but if I remember correctly depress
02:26:41 I see
02:26:46 well now there you go that horse let’s
02:26:50 try this bronze
02:26:54 uh they don’t have anything specifically
02:26:56 brass but let’s see here
02:26:59 the patriarchal period of ancient Israel
02:27:02 occurs in modern historians have called
02:27:05 the bronze AIDS and the times the
02:27:08 settlement of Cana marks the change from
02:27:11 the bronzes to the Iron Age okay I don’t
02:27:13 care about that copper lead was one of
02:27:16 the earliest and widest used during the
02:27:19 Old Testament it was later replaced by
02:27:21 brass
02:27:22 an ally of copper and Tin I can’t
02:27:26 remember that
02:27:27 therefore most references to bronze are
02:27:30 in the Old Testament the use of bronze
02:27:34 okay
02:27:36 that’s not Rebels yeah that doesn’t seem
02:27:39 very helpful
02:27:41 The Babylon
02:27:43 asked
02:27:44 the Babylonian apsu corresponds
02:27:47 conceptually to the waters above the
02:27:49 permanent firmamentum is the Latin
02:27:52 translation for the Hebrew
02:27:56 pounded brass Dome over the Earth hard
02:27:59 as an open mirror which separates the
02:28:01 waters above from the waters below and
02:28:03 keeps flooding one thing that kind of
02:28:06 helped
02:28:08 I think support city of brass’s law here
02:28:11 is the law is a mere
02:28:13 and it’s talking about Harden as well to
02:28:15 the mirror right now the other
02:28:17 interesting thing about the other the
02:28:19 other thing about the brass is that it’s
02:28:21 an alloy of copper and Tin
02:28:25 right
02:28:28 um you want to uh add more to that
02:28:31 thought
02:28:33 um
02:28:34 now
02:28:39 um
02:28:40 10
02:28:43 you know the interesting the interest
02:28:47 the the interesting thing is that the
02:28:50 the the the 10 the tin mixture with the
02:28:54 copper is what makes the uh is what
02:28:57 makes is what gives brass its Sheen
02:29:01 and so the tin is a 10 is often a very
02:29:06 chromatic substance
02:29:09 bronze and bronzes uh and bronze is a
02:29:14 bronze is more of a mineral substance
02:29:17 that will probably more a mineral
02:29:19 substance from Rock of the Earth
02:29:20 just things think about as we’re as
02:29:24 we’re trying to put together this idea
02:29:25 of what the brass represents alloy
02:29:30 um
02:29:32 tin
02:29:34 Rome
02:29:36 shiny
02:29:38 of the earth of The Rock
02:29:45 Okay so
02:29:47 let’s put some thoughts on that just
02:29:50 some thoughts to go with the with you
02:29:52 for sure yeah yeah we’re trying to
02:29:53 figure this out because I
02:29:56 I I’m just speculating that if
02:30:00 this is
02:30:14 problem solving okay
02:30:16 what does brass symbolize in the Bible
02:30:21 right here
02:30:23 okay top question there people also ask
02:30:25 yeah
02:30:28 click on that
02:30:36 that’s gold though
02:30:38 um
02:30:41 symbol of judgment judgment or just
02:30:44 Justice
02:30:45 yep that’s so it’s the it’s the uh
02:30:49 it’s the Shiny Rock
02:30:52 doesn’t Judgment of Justice stoning okay
02:30:55 so I knew silver was that I guess I
02:30:58 didn’t realize brass was the same
02:31:03 like it’s interesting it has it under
02:31:06 the gold one let’s say symbols and
02:31:07 metals
02:31:13 it’s not helpful
02:31:15 what
02:31:18 uh Kelsey Kelsey is about to have to
02:31:21 sign off oh okay
02:31:24 no you’re you’re muted so I didn’t hear
02:31:28 you counseling
02:31:31 I don’t last very late sorry
02:31:34 that’s fine
02:31:36 um you have kids to take care of so
02:31:38 that’s understandable yeah early morning
02:31:40 so anyway okay you and yeah next week
02:31:44 see you again see ya
02:31:47 um Tuesday evening okay oh
02:31:52 yeah okay
02:31:54 sounds good okay all right
02:31:57 yep you’re welcome we’ll see you okay
02:32:03 problem solving
02:32:05 um
02:32:07 well the Vitality of the human mind the
02:32:09 beginning of one’s mental capabilities
02:32:11 sure look one thing problem solving I
02:32:14 see that related to the law
02:32:16 which the law deals definitely Justice
02:32:19 right and discernment right that’s how
02:32:22 you problem solve discern and you
02:32:25 discern by the law right
02:32:28 a symbolize the Vitality of the human
02:32:30 mind
02:32:31 uh well that would go with the law right
02:32:36 brass has said to keep the Mind young
02:32:38 and Youthful and to prevent conservatism
02:32:44 uh
02:32:46 what is that did it prevent it yes
02:32:51 honestly conservatively
02:32:53 you’ve got to hold on to it
02:32:56 the holding of political views that
02:32:58 favor free enterprise and doctrines of
02:33:01 the conservative party sure sure I I
02:33:04 and conservatives aren’t as conservative
02:33:08 as they would like to present them the
02:33:12 thing about conservative the thing about
02:33:13 conservatism
02:33:15 is that it’s
02:33:17 is that it’s not conservative except
02:33:21 that
02:33:23 it
02:33:25 um it conserves the power structure that
02:33:27 is currently in place
02:33:30 uh yeah I guess that’s why he’s
02:33:33 conservative right
02:33:36 that was yes
02:33:37 um yeah I I can see that looking into it
02:33:41 a little more is that the fact of the
02:33:43 matter are the law will the law will
02:33:46 upset the power structure that is
02:33:48 currently in place
02:33:50 it prevents oh yeah and it prevents
02:33:54 conservatives when it rejects accurate
02:33:58 right
02:33:58 yeah conservatives will reject the law
02:34:00 Yeah by and large I’ve seen it so vast
02:34:06 majority of people in the doctrine of
02:34:08 Christ group are conservative and they
02:34:10 reject the law
02:34:14 contrary to what they kind of claim
02:34:18 right right they have to this point
02:34:22 that doesn’t mean that they cannot
02:34:24 change
02:34:25 correct and hopefully they do right I I
02:34:28 mean
02:34:29 I grew up Christian I rejected the law I
02:34:31 didn’t know any better right right I got
02:34:34 well so so yeah the thing is is
02:34:37 conservatives
02:34:40 by and large
02:34:41 reject law
02:34:44 whereas liberals by and large tend to
02:34:47 want too much law
02:34:50 of their own loss and their own of their
02:34:53 own of their of law of their own yeah
02:34:55 Justice after their own making yeah
02:34:58 and so that is the issue right there
02:35:03 sure
02:35:04 where
02:35:06 conservatives are generally just leave
02:35:08 people to themselves right yeah lead
02:35:11 people to themselves you don’t tell me
02:35:13 what to do
02:35:15 nobody can tell me what to do
02:35:19 even God
02:35:20 for sure where
02:35:23 the left is more I’ll tell you what to
02:35:25 do and I’ll make it so long right yeah
02:35:28 pretty much yeah
02:35:31 um anyways but yeah yeah it seems
02:35:33 counter
02:35:35 intuitive but yeah I I can definitely
02:35:38 see that looking at the details looking
02:35:42 at what conservatism actually means come
02:35:45 to me or or how it’s generally thought
02:35:49 of right yeah
02:35:52 um let’s see it’s beautiful well the law
02:35:55 is beautiful in my mind and and David
02:35:58 said that Psalms states that right
02:36:03 uh well Heaven’s gonna be golden pass oh
02:36:08 it says streets but I mean that’s a path
02:36:10 right yeah which is where we walk aka
02:36:14 the law we keep
02:36:15 yeah so it also symbolizes positivity
02:36:19 Beauty the Simplicity of Life True
02:36:22 positivity is found in the wall
02:36:24 correct and they and obeying honoring
02:36:27 sustaining the law of God
02:36:30 yeah
02:36:31 yeah so in one place it’s kind of
02:36:34 bringing up here
02:36:37 problem solving and this one about
02:36:39 judgment and just justice but that’s
02:36:41 only possible because of the law
02:36:44 right
02:36:45 yeah and so I I can I I still see it’s
02:36:50 connected to the law I see I see it that
02:36:53 way
02:36:53 the law and judgment the law in
02:36:57 connection to judgment so mountains of
02:36:59 brass is the law in connection to
02:37:01 judgment sure sure
02:37:03 um and
02:37:06 where the bus plates right where the law
02:37:09 is located and the prophecy in Alma 37
02:37:13 how we’re going to get it again
02:37:15 in that prophecy it brings out it’s
02:37:17 going to bring people back to the right
02:37:20 way because now they’re going to know
02:37:22 what is actually sin I don’t remember
02:37:24 the exact way of putting it but it’s
02:37:25 along the line which means you’re making
02:37:27 a judgment
02:37:28 right
02:37:30 right which goes along with this brass
02:37:33 and judgment
02:37:35 but the but the brass place will only be
02:37:38 will the blast brass plates will only be
02:37:41 restored to those who’ve learned to
02:37:42 Value what they have
02:37:45 well I I actually believe the mighty
02:37:48 one’s going to translate it
02:37:50 the brass Place well of course of course
02:37:52 he’s going to translate it but the only
02:37:53 people who are going to follow him are
02:37:55 those who’ve learned to Value what we’ve
02:37:56 got
02:37:57 sure sure
02:38:00 but yeah yeah
02:38:02 um
02:38:03 let’s see what else we have on
02:38:07 this one looks more new age but and this
02:38:10 one didn’t come up for some reason
02:38:14 this one looks like it’s a little uh
02:38:16 this looks like a cult new age
02:38:18 yes symbols so those are the ancient
02:38:21 symbols those are ancient symbols made
02:38:23 from brass
02:38:25 uh but
02:38:28 me even if it’s from the wrong side it
02:38:31 can help give us some insights because
02:38:33 uh
02:38:35 both sides kind of use the same symbols
02:38:38 at their core the same right
02:38:41 at least that’s what I’ve noticed even
02:38:44 if they maybe used it a little different
02:38:46 or Twisted it’s it’s the core is the
02:38:48 same I’ve noticed
02:38:52 uh it doesn’t really look like it has
02:38:55 looks like it’s something to sell stuff
02:38:57 yeah
02:39:00 but yeah
02:39:05 so I think we I think we have I think we
02:39:08 have a pretty good yeah
02:39:10 okay let’s go back then
02:39:25 Okay so
02:39:28 and I turned and lifted up mine eyes and
02:39:31 looked to be held there came four
02:39:33 chariots
02:39:34 out from between the two mountains
02:39:39 um so for now we’re now we’re probably
02:39:42 dealing in Gematria here
02:39:46 possibly or something along those lines
02:39:49 the two mountains
02:39:52 um so
02:39:56 so Torah was given on one but when
02:40:00 Moses pronounced the blessings and the
02:40:03 cursings right it was actually at two
02:40:05 mountains not one right because one
02:40:08 mountain
02:40:09 was the blessings and one mountain was
02:40:12 the cursing so
02:40:15 [Music]
02:40:15 um
02:40:17 and the law the brass brings out who’s
02:40:20 going to be blessed and cursed now the
02:40:22 other idea the other the other idea is
02:40:24 that mountains could also
02:40:27 um mountains could also but it could
02:40:30 also have a double e it could also have
02:40:32 a tunnel meaning
02:40:34 sure meaning two Nations or two or it
02:40:37 could be another reference back to
02:40:39 Ezekiel
02:40:41 two with two sticks that that’s a very
02:40:45 good point and with mountains with laws
02:40:48 two sticks have the law right so that’s
02:40:51 a very good possibility there
02:40:53 right yep
02:40:57 um
02:40:58 so the four chariots could be tying into
02:41:02 four horses there are four judgments is
02:41:06 what I see because chariots are symbols
02:41:09 of
02:41:11 uh war and judgment and destruction the
02:41:15 destruction happens because
02:41:17 of judgment so I I guess and here’s
02:41:20 where it would actually pay I think to
02:41:22 do a little comparative with revelation
02:41:28 I I I think we should do that I I
02:41:32 and this is completely up to Zach
02:41:34 because this is more for him I I my
02:41:38 thought is to look at
02:41:41 um this chapter
02:41:42 and then probably have to be next week
02:41:45 to go look at it in Revelations two yeah
02:41:49 my reasoning for this
02:41:52 is to get the base okay that way we can
02:41:56 understand
02:41:57 the
02:41:59 um
02:42:00 expounding of it or the using of it yeah
02:42:04 because the thing that you have to bear
02:42:06 in mind is that John is actually citing
02:42:09 this right right so if we don’t
02:42:12 understand the sighting we won’t
02:42:14 understand
02:42:16 that’s true that’s true and so that’s
02:42:19 why and it’s completely agree
02:42:21 I’m with you I’m with you now
02:42:26 um because this is a Hebrew technique
02:42:29 where they’ll quote it a little bit and
02:42:31 expect you to know the context while
02:42:33 they’re using it if we don’t understand
02:42:35 how it’s being used initially won’t
02:42:38 won’t understand how it’s being used
02:42:46 as an English idiom right
02:42:50 right
02:42:51 um
02:42:52 and so that’s my reasoning for wanting
02:42:55 to yeah at first yeah Zach
02:43:03 anyway so I I it’s all good
02:43:07 also be inclined like with Ben that the
02:43:10 church has to do with judgment right
02:43:12 because that’s generally Charities have
02:43:15 to do with war and which Yahweh allows
02:43:17 happen because of judgments right
02:43:22 it’s the instrument of judgment yeah
02:43:25 it’s an interestment of judgment because
02:43:26 he lets the wicked Nations
02:43:30 um destroy Wicked Nations the witness
02:43:33 shall destroy the wicked
02:43:35 yeah yeah just like he causes the sun to
02:43:38 rise and the sun to shine and the rain
02:43:40 to fall and the dust and Beyond just
02:43:42 alike the wicked kill the wicked
02:43:45 yeah okay so
02:43:50 I think that’s pretty good on verse one
02:43:53 first one I think we’ve got a pretty
02:43:55 good spin on yeah
02:43:58 the only thing that the only thing that
02:44:00 I think we could maybe be a little
02:44:01 clearer on is necessarily why there are
02:44:04 four
02:44:05 correct and what is four stands for
02:44:09 uh well
02:44:11 what is four but it’s still worth 40 and
02:44:13 four are related with each other and
02:44:15 most people know 40 right the time
02:44:19 uh
02:44:20 [Music]
02:44:22 not necessary judgment but to see if
02:44:24 you’ll pass the test which is a thing of
02:44:27 judgment right testing it’s a time of
02:44:31 time
02:44:32 yeah
02:44:33 and I think less known is four relates
02:44:38 to 40 at least at times
02:44:40 at times
02:44:41 um and so I would we’ll see if this is
02:44:43 one of those times correct I I would
02:44:46 wonder if it is especially considering
02:44:48 what we got out of verse one but
02:44:50 let’s see right this is where we have
02:44:52 created all the contacts
02:44:54 yes the first Chariot were red horses
02:44:59 okay that’s the first idea
02:45:01 well first Chariot were red horses
02:45:05 red can deal with blood which can deal
02:45:07 with sin right
02:45:09 [Music]
02:45:11 um
02:45:13 in Black
02:45:15 it can do a pestilence
02:45:18 [Music]
02:45:21 um
02:45:23 we could go double
02:45:26 check on these and go search but I I
02:45:29 think
02:45:30 red I think Red’s obvious black maybe
02:45:32 not as much
02:45:34 but yeah black can deal with wickedness
02:45:37 right I mean the Robes of the wicked are
02:45:39 black
02:45:40 third Chariot white horses but I don’t
02:45:45 think and white is another color that
02:45:47 has double meaning some pot one positive
02:45:49 one some positive something like leprosy
02:45:53 leprosy is white right yeah it’s an
02:45:55 off-white but it’s white and so white
02:45:57 does not necessarily mean good
02:45:59 white does not mean pure
02:46:02 pure necessary not necessarily it can
02:46:06 mean that but it can mean other things
02:46:07 as well right
02:46:10 and the fourth Chariot gristled and bay
02:46:14 horses
02:46:16 um okay so that is checkered
02:46:18 that’s representing mixed
02:46:23 uh
02:46:25 that that’d be something that we’d want
02:46:27 to that we’d want to look at the
02:46:29 symbolism of the bristledon bay well
02:46:31 first let’s do
02:46:36 foreign
02:46:44 good thing search engines know what I
02:46:47 mean not what I typed yeah
02:46:51 sometimes right
02:46:52 yeah
02:46:54 wrestled
02:46:56 d r g r i is L that led
02:47:04 no
02:47:05 LED
02:47:12 that’s what’s in this that’s what’s in
02:47:14 the scriptures
02:47:15 uh
02:47:17 well they have grisly
02:47:21 there’s grizzled Grizzly are we talking
02:47:29 rightful horrible terrible
02:47:33 Chrisley countless Grizzly face grizzly
02:47:36 Specter grizzly bear
02:47:39 well I definitely don’t want to get in a
02:47:41 fight with the Christian there
02:47:44 yeah it’s Dreadful so those yeah so
02:47:48 gristle we’ve done it Matt beautiful
02:47:50 Dreadful looking you’re talking like his
02:47:53 experience there
02:47:54 well
02:47:56 but there was this one time thank you
02:48:06 [Music]
02:48:07 [Laughter]
02:48:09 actually that’s a technique of vehicle
02:48:11 anyway yeah
02:48:13 um
02:48:14 enough for that one
02:48:16 it’s
02:48:18 oh no it’s three three
02:48:28 dapple
02:48:31 baffled horses all of them strong
02:48:34 that’s interesting that’s um spotted
02:48:37 that’s the mix that you’re talking about
02:48:39 yep
02:48:40 yep
02:48:43 um
02:48:44 first I was kind of thinking checkered
02:48:46 but spotted I mean that’s that’s related
02:48:50 right
02:48:52 [Music]
02:48:53 um
02:48:58 yeah
02:49:00 one thing that comes to mind is getting
02:49:03 cold
02:49:04 right the Checker yeah mostly checkered
02:49:07 but spotted goes along with that right
02:49:09 yeah
02:49:10 what is a checkered board it’s a spotted
02:49:14 board
02:49:15 well yeah it’s a checkered board of the
02:49:18 black and white it’s the occult
02:49:21 right and white
02:49:23 uh mixed together
02:49:25 I’m drawing the connection
02:49:28 yeah
02:49:29 what you’re saying that
02:49:32 okay
02:49:34 so I think that’s good on that
02:49:38 yes
02:49:49 and so what have we determined about the
02:49:52 gristle debate horses
02:49:54 they they are spotted
02:49:57 yeah they’re spotted yeah
02:50:00 yeah they’re checkerboard horses
02:50:04 wow it’s interesting
02:50:06 this isn’t the jst
02:50:10 yeah yeah
02:50:11 um well this is where I I think Joseph
02:50:14 Smith did it on everything I think he
02:50:15 did on things that
02:50:17 um he felt was more important to be
02:50:19 honest
02:50:21 um
02:50:21 but there are some changes there are
02:50:23 some changes in that chapter oh yeah but
02:50:26 not on this verse right
02:50:30 dappled horses all of them strong
02:50:33 well I wonder what is the bay
02:50:39 I think
02:50:41 I think
02:50:47 is it potentially horses strong steeds
02:50:50 the Hebrew doesn’t say anything about
02:50:52 Bay
02:50:53 it says strong seeds spotted strong
02:50:56 seeds
02:51:02 okay well let’s go with the Hebrew well
02:51:06 also I I completely agree on that
02:51:10 go ahead Matt
02:51:12 if we keep something at Bay we are
02:51:16 showing strength against that certain
02:51:20 summer thing
02:51:23 oh that’s a good point
02:51:28 um just another thought and this is
02:51:30 where we’re going to need more context
02:51:32 uh my thought on the day was
02:51:36 uh more with the seashore type of bay
02:51:39 well yeah as in the new world but
02:51:44 this is where we’re going to need more
02:51:46 context to know what what possibly the
02:51:50 day could be but the bay is used in
02:51:52 description of the horses is it not
02:51:56 chariots
02:51:59 let’s go a little farther along and yeah
02:52:02 you know because some of this stuff I
02:52:04 think will sort out as we go through
02:52:06 well I tend to agree with that
02:52:10 uh then I answered and said unto the
02:52:13 angel that talked with me what are these
02:52:17 my Lord and the angels so he’s talking
02:52:19 to the angel of Yahweh
02:52:22 uh uh I would tend to agree with that we
02:52:25 and
02:52:26 we don’t know for sure but I would tend
02:52:28 to think that
02:52:29 and the angel answered and said unto me
02:52:33 these are the four Servants of Heaven
02:52:37 of the heavens which go forth from
02:52:41 standing before Yahweh of all the Earth
02:52:46 the black horses which are are there and
02:52:50 go forth into the North country and
02:52:53 white go forth after them and the
02:52:57 grizzled go forth towards the South
02:53:00 Country
02:53:02 and the bay
02:53:05 went for ah
02:53:07 so that’s probably talking about the
02:53:10 grilled horses right the bait and the
02:53:13 strong horses Bay is the strong okay
02:53:17 he grizzled and spotted
02:53:19 they went forth and sought to go they
02:53:22 might walk to and fro through the Earth
02:53:24 and he said get yeehants walk to and
02:53:27 from through the Earth so they walked to
02:53:29 him yeah so up here then up to three the
02:53:32 fourth chair was
02:53:34 pulled by two different types of horses
02:53:37 and grizzled and bay
02:53:39 yep okay
02:53:42 sorry go ahead
02:53:46 okay
02:53:48 and so the these the bay are just
02:53:51 walking to and through the Earth they
02:53:54 don’t have a destination that they’re
02:53:56 sent to
02:53:58 they’re going to and fro
02:54:01 we’re going about their business they’re
02:54:02 doing whatever that they want to do
02:54:06 why wouldn’t you think it begins
02:54:09 then cried he upon me and just just the
02:54:12 thought that popped my head and we’ll
02:54:13 have to read more to see if it applies
02:54:16 um there is one person that goes
02:54:20 around the Earth
02:54:22 accusing
02:54:24 as in doing judgments or bringing forth
02:54:28 judgments of people right yep
02:54:33 he wonders to and fro and and God’s
02:54:36 General reference to him is get the
02:54:37 hence yeah oh and look
02:54:41 get ye hence
02:54:43 and it has to do with the one that’s
02:54:45 going to and fro Satan so I
02:54:51 and so maybe my thought is correct maybe
02:54:54 this
02:54:55 this one could be Satan right
02:54:59 possibly
02:55:01 an instrument of the Judgment of gut an
02:55:03 instrument of the judgments of God
02:55:06 which he does play a part in that right
02:55:10 English
02:55:12 uh in tempting us and accusing us
02:55:19 um anyways okay cool I just wanted to
02:55:22 share that
02:55:26 uh then cried he upon me and spake unto
02:55:29 me saying behold needs that go toward
02:55:31 the North Country have quieted my spirit
02:55:33 in the North country
02:55:36 so the so the those in the North country
02:55:40 had quieted in quieted the one walking
02:55:44 to and bro meaning he didn’t have
02:55:47 anything to accuse of him I would would
02:55:49 take that out right
02:55:51 and
02:55:53 North are generally referred to as the
02:55:56 righteous and the South the wicked and
02:55:59 the word of the Lord came unto me saying
02:56:01 take of them of the Captivity even of
02:56:04 haldiah to Baja and of Judea and which
02:56:08 are come from Babylon and Come Thou the
02:56:11 same day and go into the house of Josiah
02:56:13 the son of Zephaniah then take silver
02:56:16 and gold and make crowns and set them
02:56:18 upon the heads of Joshua the son of
02:56:20 Joseph dick a high priest
02:56:23 and speak unto him saying thus say
02:56:26 speaketh the Lord of hosts saying behold
02:56:28 the man whose name is the branch
02:56:31 and he shall grow up out of his place in
02:56:34 the temple of the Lord so
02:56:37 um
02:56:38 are we talking about is this also the
02:56:41 branch
02:56:43 uh
02:56:47 yeah
02:56:49 I’m wondering if this is also in
02:56:52 reference to the whole thing of the root
02:56:54 Rod stem of Jess
02:56:57 possibly right
02:57:00 no
02:57:02 and Yeshua is the Nazarene
02:57:05 yeah which is sometimes Nazarene is
02:57:07 translated as the branch
02:57:15 um sorry go ahead
02:57:18 I I wonder
02:57:23 so
02:57:26 I don’t know how to put it into the
02:57:27 context yet but I think one thing we
02:57:30 need to let
02:57:32 um ferment
02:57:35 among us as I’m just going along with
02:57:38 our earlier conversation but actually
02:57:41 actually still being honest about it and
02:57:43 the way to use it is the silver gold and
02:57:46 crowns
02:57:47 right
02:57:48 yes
02:57:51 they’re not just saying that
02:57:53 make the story sound more cool
02:57:57 no there’s there’s symbolism in this and
02:58:01 we’re talking about
02:58:06 I agree there is symbolism too I’m not
02:58:08 sure how it relates yet but it’s there
02:58:10 for purpose even if we don’t know what
02:58:12 it is yeah right
02:58:15 and the branch even he he shall go up
02:58:20 out of his play grow up out of his place
02:58:22 and he shall build the Temple of the
02:58:24 Lord
02:58:25 and he shall build the Temple of the
02:58:27 Lord even he shall build the Temple of
02:58:29 the Lord and He Shall bear the glory and
02:58:31 shall sit and Rule upon the his
02:58:33 throughout his throne
02:58:35 is thrown yeah so this is it seems to
02:58:39 very much indicate yeah this is Yeshua
02:58:42 right there right
02:58:44 and he shall be a priest upon his throne
02:58:46 and the Council of Peace shall be
02:58:48 between them both
02:58:49 and the crown shall be to heal him unto
02:58:52 him look at this this is interesting
02:58:55 he shall build the Temple of Yahweh and
02:58:57 he shall bear the glory and sit upon his
02:59:01 throne and he shall be a priest upon his
02:59:04 throne and the counsel of his peace
02:59:06 shall be between them between who
02:59:13 no this is the one to me this is
02:59:18 majestic Pearl
02:59:21 between Yahweh
02:59:23 the father are you possibly you’re
02:59:27 possibly thinking you’re possibly
02:59:29 thinking this is a evidence of the
02:59:32 connectivity between
02:59:34 um Yahweh and uh
02:59:39 yeah this is the
02:59:42 um moralism
02:59:45 I to me this is majestic plural but
02:59:48 anyways
02:59:49 I can see it I mean I can see that as
02:59:52 possible definite possibility
02:59:55 anyways so unless the only other person
02:59:58 that it could be between them both would
03:00:00 be
03:00:01 uh high priest
03:00:04 [Music]
03:00:05 high priest and King branch
03:00:10 um
03:00:12 okay so the high priest and King could
03:00:15 be both in the same person
03:00:17 right but
03:00:19 personally I think the only one that all
03:00:22 this would qualify the only one that
03:00:25 could qualify for all of this is Yeshua
03:00:28 okay because even the mo so there’s two
03:00:31 hype well I guess in some ways three
03:00:34 hypers but
03:00:35 there’s two high priests in the
03:00:37 priesthoods right there’s the
03:00:39 Melchizedek high priest and then there’s
03:00:41 the aaronic high priest and right it’s
03:00:44 confusing to have the same title this is
03:00:47 where you need right next because they
03:00:49 both have the same title right
03:00:53 um which can make it confusing
03:00:56 um yeah
03:00:58 but none of them become between us and
03:01:01 Yahweh right yeah right none
03:01:06 neither
03:01:08 they they do things to help point us to
03:01:11 him
03:01:12 but they’re never in between
03:01:15 right
03:01:16 right
03:01:18 the crowns shall be to heal them and to
03:01:21 tobija and to jediah and to hen the son
03:01:25 of Zephaniah for a memorial in the
03:01:27 temple of the Lord
03:01:30 so here are some people who are
03:01:31 receiving crowns
03:01:35 yeah
03:01:37 which probably I presumably the King of
03:01:40 Kings so I don’t have any problem with
03:01:42 that right
03:01:43 yep and they that are far off shall come
03:01:46 and build in the temple of the Lord and
03:01:49 ye shall know that the Lord of hosts
03:01:51 hath sent me unto you and this shall
03:01:53 come to pass if you will diligently obey
03:01:56 the voice of the Lord your God that
03:01:59 which is keep his Commandments right
03:02:02 mm-hmm
03:02:08 so that’s just
03:02:10 yeah that’s the whole chapter six
03:02:13 so I mean the main thing you have to do
03:02:15 with horses probably no chapter seven
03:02:18 doesn’t so this now the the question is
03:02:22 now the question is is as we have read
03:02:24 this
03:02:26 does the stuff down here does the stuff
03:02:29 in the last six verses pertain
03:02:33 or the last
03:02:36 seven verses pertain to the same the
03:02:39 same thing as the stuff in the first
03:02:41 eight verses
03:02:42 and I would say and I
03:02:47 think it might be talking about the
03:02:49 second coming
03:02:51 uh that’s so that’s the question that we
03:02:54 have to ask ourselves is this two
03:02:56 separate prophecies
03:02:58 and is there stuff in chapter five that
03:03:01 might inform the horses
03:03:03 because these chapter things are kind of
03:03:06 arbitrary uh yeah they were added later
03:03:10 um yeah
03:03:12 let’s see
03:03:14 flying roll
03:03:20 curse that goes curses go with judgments
03:03:23 right
03:03:25 mm-hmm
03:03:29 House of the thief
03:03:32 um you have to look more but that you
03:03:34 know thief in the night has to do with
03:03:36 the second Counting
03:03:41 Timber
03:03:43 well that has to do with the
03:03:46 the priest not doing his job at midnight
03:03:49 right the timber the
03:03:51 continual offering did you say something
03:03:55 Zach
03:03:56 yeah chapter one chapter one also also
03:03:59 mentions one
03:04:01 [Music]
03:04:05 the horses
03:04:07 they are the horses okay so maybe let’s
03:04:09 start right there do you know the verses
03:04:11 off top of your head
03:04:13 I forgot
03:04:15 it’s close to the beginning I think
03:04:24 smallers
03:04:27 I wonder this is where
03:04:30 I saw something I saw by night we hold a
03:04:33 man riding upon a red horse he stood
03:04:35 among the Myrtle trees in the bottom
03:04:38 behind him there were were there red
03:04:41 horses speckled and white then said I O
03:04:44 My Lord what are these the angels that
03:04:46 talked unto me said unto me I will show
03:04:48 thee what these be and the man that
03:04:50 stood among the Merle trees answered and
03:04:51 said these are they whom the Lord has
03:04:54 sent to block to and fro through the
03:04:56 Earth
03:04:58 they answered the angel of the Lord that
03:05:00 stood among the Myrtle trees and said we
03:05:02 have walked to a breath of the earth and
03:05:03 build all the Earth says still and is at
03:05:06 rest
03:05:11 well this is
03:05:13 um sounding like judgment still right
03:05:15 yep
03:05:20 and in fact how long will thou have
03:05:22 mercy on Jerusalem like you’re
03:05:24 you’re being too merciful
03:05:29 oh wait I’m gonna read that wrong and
03:05:31 the angels yeah
03:05:33 [Music]
03:05:34 O Lord of hosts how long will thou not
03:05:38 have mercy on Jerusalem and on the
03:05:40 cities of Judah against which thou past
03:05:42 had indignation these three score and
03:05:44 ten years 70 years
03:05:47 yeah
03:05:49 uh with the 70-year Judgment right
03:05:52 mm-hmm
03:05:56 so at least here this is
03:06:00 um
03:06:01 to me pointing to
03:06:04 the 70 weeks
03:06:08 right again pointing back to Daniel
03:06:11 yeah
03:06:13 um
03:06:14 in fact I didn’t know that was here in
03:06:16 Zechariah to be honest
03:06:20 um
03:06:21 and it’s related to the horses
03:06:24 yeah
03:06:26 um
03:06:28 yeah that that’s I think that’s a key
03:06:31 thing you um pointed us to Zach to help
03:06:33 us understand it
03:06:35 um
03:06:36 foreign because it’s pointing the horses
03:06:39 to
03:06:41 Daniel 9 right
03:06:44 because I forget the chapter in Matthew
03:06:47 but Matthew
03:06:49 or Peter I think it was Peter asking
03:06:52 how many times should I forgive and
03:06:54 Yeshua answered 70 times
03:06:58 or 70 times 7 right 70 weeks and that’s
03:07:02 he’s not just
03:07:05 well he’s he’s bringing up that
03:07:08 uh
03:07:09 Israel’s time is coming up
03:07:13 he wasn’t saying you need to forgive 490
03:07:17 times or any other stuff that goes along
03:07:20 with that that Christians thank you
03:07:23 Helen is
03:07:24 he’s yeah yeah he’s pointing to the 70
03:07:29 weeks prophecy that’s what Yeshua was
03:07:32 doing
03:07:33 right 70 times seven seven week anyways
03:07:38 um and to me this looks like this is
03:07:41 pointing to that more
03:07:43 um yeah or more right right here so
03:07:48 so
03:07:50 it’s Jerusalem and it does seem as we go
03:07:54 into as we go into Revelations that we
03:07:56 need to look at the horsemen
03:07:59 potentially in relation
03:08:03 to Daniel 9. I agree I concur
03:08:09 but I think that should be saved for
03:08:11 next time
03:08:12 I think you’re right I think it’s
03:08:14 getting late yes so um
03:08:17 yeah I can look at the clock
03:08:23 Yeah well yeah okay well anyways I think
03:08:26 I was attempting I was attempting to be
03:08:30 a little diplomatic no that’s fine I I’m
03:08:34 whatever
03:08:37 um
03:08:38 I think that was a good start of looking
03:08:39 at that because
03:08:42 um I think the the chapter one that Zach
03:08:45 pointers to
03:08:46 um brings out a good key on that right I
03:08:48 think it’s starting to like performance
03:08:51 related to Daniel mine
03:08:53 [Music]
03:08:53 um
03:08:55 now what we need to determine when we go
03:08:58 into Revelation is whether it’s a
03:09:00 continuation
03:09:01 or whether it’s an exposition yeah yeah
03:09:04 well that’s just where we have to keep
03:09:06 looking just keep putting the puzzle
03:09:08 pieces together it’s it’s just a puzzle
03:09:11 it’s just we have to put it together
03:09:13 correctly right just just like the
03:09:17 Mighty the strong one puzzle and the
03:09:19 second coming puzzle I do a little bit
03:09:21 here and there on it it comes with time
03:09:24 you know it’s just it’s one of these
03:09:26 Mysteries that
03:09:28 yeah you should work on but the law
03:09:30 should be the Focus right yeah yeah yep
03:09:33 you definitely want to seek your Basics
03:09:36 you definitely want to see your basic
03:09:38 nourishment before uh well milk milk
03:09:42 Commandments before the meat Mysteries
03:09:44 right but yes
03:09:47 um yes it should be eaten sparingly all
03:09:50 the time yes
03:09:53 exactly Word of Wisdom I’m sorry go
03:09:55 ahead Zach
03:09:56 like I’m into calisthenics and
03:10:01 and uh
03:10:03 we focus most on the basics
03:10:05 like I don’t really I don’t really go
03:10:08 into like
03:10:09 those like
03:10:11 whatever it’s called dragonflies
03:10:13 I can’t really do those
03:10:16 yep yep that’s a type of exercise right
03:10:19 calisthenics yeah it’s like you’re like
03:10:22 on a bar and
03:10:25 what’s in your body up there
03:10:27 oh okay I can’t even do it
03:10:30 uh I I like going to the gym but I
03:10:33 haven’t for a while just since covid I
03:10:36 haven’t the gym I actually liked
03:10:39 uh went out of business because of covet
03:10:41 and I just I haven’t gone back to one
03:10:44 since then
03:10:47 um but anyways
03:10:48 I like the gym
03:10:53 in between sets I would uh read things
03:10:56 on tour on my phone anyways
03:11:01 um
03:11:02 that’s neither here there so
03:11:05 um
03:11:06 I think we’ve got a good start yeah yeah
03:11:08 yeah
03:11:09 um so I I don’t know if you guys I know
03:11:13 Ben mentioned how he needs to
03:11:16 get his digsby
03:11:18 or Discord working again but I I did add
03:11:22 a link where you can download the
03:11:24 extended uh Lord of the Rings
03:11:26 yeah
03:11:28 so we have
03:11:30 we have a copy it we we have a complete
03:11:33 copy of that still the extended
03:11:37 yeah
03:11:38 on Blu-ray
03:11:40 okay so we’ll get the high definition
03:11:43 oh wow I that what I have I think I put
03:11:47 up there was uh 1080. so you probably
03:11:50 have the and it’s 4K maybe yeah that’s
03:11:54 all right
03:11:55 no we don’t have 4K we have we have
03:11:57 1080p it’s the same deal it’s the same
03:12:00 thing
03:12:01 Matt’s just be Matt’s just being an
03:12:03 idiot I’m being technical oh that’s fine
03:12:07 I think it’s I’m pretty sure it’s timid
03:12:09 so the
03:12:13 oh yeah I think yeah you should I think
03:12:17 we should all kind of
03:12:20 we should all kind of purse just watch
03:12:22 it through get you gather together
03:12:25 yeah and possibly even all together
03:12:29 um
03:12:30 all three will kind of help with the
03:12:32 general storyline
03:12:33 yeah get the general get the general
03:12:35 story arc I get a feeling for for types
03:12:40 and what have you
03:12:43 and then come together on that
03:12:47 then I think we should start going
03:12:48 through scene by scene
03:12:51 yeah
03:12:52 um also I I did some searching try to
03:12:54 find anything where anybody really
03:12:56 brought anything out
03:12:58 there’s a few that people say they bring
03:13:01 it out but I’ve listened to them and I I
03:13:04 didn’t catch anything
03:13:06 um except for one I did put one article
03:13:08 in in the Discord that I did mostly like
03:13:12 but it didn’t bring out very much to be
03:13:14 honest as in just trying to get the
03:13:17 juices running and looking what other
03:13:18 people said so there’s not a lot out
03:13:20 there actually of people doing it on
03:13:24 this movie
03:13:26 um
03:13:26 so
03:13:28 we may be the first
03:13:32 we may be we’ll be pretty early we’re
03:13:34 pretty early on the jump yeah
03:13:37 um hopefully maybe we can help others
03:13:39 start seeing things
03:13:41 um but one thing I put in in Discord and
03:13:45 I don’t know the name of it but maybe
03:13:47 Ben knows the the proper name the golden
03:13:50 o
03:13:53 I wonder if the ring deals with the
03:13:56 golden o now I don’t know the official
03:13:58 occult name I I know what I see as a as
03:14:02 a pattern
03:14:03 I’ll take a look at it when I get it
03:14:06 when I can get on there
03:14:08 I’ll take a look at it
03:14:10 um so this has providing a lot of things
03:14:13 like I used to play Halo
03:14:16 yeah Circle
03:14:19 is the golden oh yeah
03:14:22 I know what it is I know what it is
03:14:25 well here’s the thing here’s another
03:14:27 thought the ring
03:14:31 although
03:14:34 to create it Sauron toward his malice’s
03:14:38 hatred and his will to dominate all life
03:14:41 into it is how it’s described because
03:14:45 that is how
03:14:47 that is how the gnostics view the law so
03:14:52 we right but at the same time
03:14:55 um
03:14:58 the Golden Circle I I would wonder and
03:15:02 this is where maybe we need to get the
03:15:04 proper occult term so we can maybe read
03:15:06 some on it I would speculate the Golden
03:15:09 Circle deals with that also with what I
03:15:13 I would have I was saying actually it is
03:15:16 cut yeah I you know I need to look that
03:15:19 up I need to look that up again I just I
03:15:22 don’t remember the name I I just I know
03:15:24 the patterns I see and I I don’t go read
03:15:28 the occult
03:15:29 literature
03:15:32 well I mean I can just be like
03:15:35 I can just go through
03:15:38 uh yeah it’s like I can go through this
03:15:42 is just I can go through a cult
03:15:46 I can see a lot of occult Gnostic stuff
03:15:49 but yeah
03:15:50 I don’t remember all the I don’t I just
03:15:53 don’t remember all the names
03:15:55 that’s fine
03:15:57 that’s fun
03:15:59 um I don’t do it anymore I I think the
03:16:02 Golden Circle is a little different than
03:16:04 the
03:16:05 the circle and the point
03:16:08 right it is different yeah okay so I
03:16:13 okay but I I wonder because each symbol
03:16:18 adds a layer of meaning to the others
03:16:21 that’s involved so this is the that’s
03:16:26 the thing with all occult symbols is
03:16:28 they is um they have depth just like
03:16:31 real yeah yeah there’s layers there’s
03:16:34 layers they have their own Padres it’s
03:16:38 twisted but they have their own Partners
03:16:41 um
03:16:42 but I I just I wonder if the ring has to
03:16:46 do with the Golden Circle I just I don’t
03:16:50 I don’t I tried to search on it but I
03:16:52 don’t have the real name so yeah I
03:16:55 couldn’t find it
03:16:56 now I I one of the things that really
03:17:00 stood out one of the things I mean the
03:17:03 thing that really was kind of revealed
03:17:05 to me was that
03:17:08 um what is it that gives you know the
03:17:11 interesting thing is is that while Satan
03:17:14 uses the mystery religion
03:17:17 to try to defeat God his law and his
03:17:20 ways
03:17:22 what gives the mystery religions their
03:17:24 power is God his law and his ways
03:17:29 uh sure
03:17:32 part of the reason why that to some
03:17:34 extent have to expose what they’re doing
03:17:36 because otherwise they wouldn’t be able
03:17:37 to do it
03:17:38 right right
03:17:40 exactly wow and so we and so it’s um
03:17:45 and so the ring
03:17:48 uh the the ring is the um
03:17:54 the ring is a very is probably the
03:17:59 golden o is probably is probably a good
03:18:02 representation but primarily it’s the
03:18:05 law
03:18:05 because the ring has writing on it now
03:18:09 the Golden Circle is a very very much a
03:18:11 very much present very much well the
03:18:15 thing about the Golden Circle is that
03:18:17 it’s that it’s the it’s the occult
03:18:20 symbolism for the Eternal round
03:18:24 is it for the Eternal round
03:18:27 yeah because it’s going around forever
03:18:30 well you never stopped
03:18:32 it’s so on
03:18:36 but it could be but I was thinking it
03:18:38 was something else like their own
03:18:39 Gnostic type of system but I could be
03:18:42 wrong this is where I’m
03:18:45 I’m not the thing is
03:18:48 yeah the the the the the the the
03:18:52 yeah the um
03:18:55 but yeah that’s why the infinite the
03:18:59 infinity symbol is basically two and two
03:19:02 golden circles run into each other I
03:19:05 could see that
03:19:07 they’re kind of missed together
03:19:11 which could be messy sides of it right
03:19:13 the good and the evil possibly that’s
03:19:17 right and going on forever remember
03:19:19 because that’s what the black and white
03:19:20 is the yin and the Yang it’s the good
03:19:22 and the evil working together as well
03:19:25 the good and the evil the they’re
03:19:27 they’re both anyways evil yeah they’re
03:19:30 both evil just one’s much more evil than
03:19:32 the other all right
03:19:35 yeah
03:19:37 so yeah I I yeah the golden yeah the
03:19:42 golden O’s
03:19:43 the um
03:19:46 it’s that’s kind of like
03:19:49 it’s a one of the
03:19:52 top
03:19:54 things for the the accounts
03:19:58 the Golden Circle yeah because the
03:20:00 Golden Circle is also
03:20:03 um
03:20:04 it’s also it’s also basis for a lot of
03:20:09 it’s also the basis for a lot of
03:20:16 for a lot of like the uh the basis on
03:20:19 the inside for a lot of the hexagrams
03:20:21 and the what have you for uh
03:20:25 uh I I have seen truth and edited in the
03:20:30 past and I’ve liked the videos I have
03:20:32 seen from them in fact
03:20:35 um and this may be helpful here I have
03:20:39 some in my huge watch list that deals
03:20:42 with some of the symbols of masonry it
03:20:44 may give us some
03:20:46 may help a little bit with this because
03:20:48 I mean
03:20:50 we’re going to have some of this stuff
03:20:52 in there like and it includes the uh
03:20:54 star David which is satanic
03:20:57 um
03:21:00 yeah it’s based on uh yeah that’s based
03:21:04 on Star of David is very cold yeah yeah
03:21:08 um
03:21:12 the Jews didn’t use it until the
03:21:15 Rothschilds made uh the current Israel
03:21:19 the Jews the Jews did not use that
03:21:21 symbol until the Ashkenazi
03:21:26 ah that sounds familiar but I can’t
03:21:28 remember what that is off my head
03:21:30 that’s the it’s basically the uh people
03:21:33 from the steps who converted into two
03:21:35 days uh okay and many of them
03:21:41 what’s that uh yeah
03:21:50 and many of the and the Rothschilds are
03:21:53 Ashkenazi
03:21:55 I didn’t know that but that doesn’t
03:21:57 surprise me
03:22:00 as yeah as our
03:22:02 yeah many of the powerful people in the
03:22:05 world right now
03:22:07 are descending the last command
03:22:08 centuries yeah okay
03:22:12 um
03:22:14 okay well that’s
03:22:16 probably I’m getting tired so I don’t
03:22:19 know if Zach wants to say anything or
03:22:21 Matt this is probably good enough Powwow
03:22:24 for now yeah other than I think
03:22:28 figuring out what the ring is for sure
03:22:31 is probably going to be a
03:22:34 big part of unlocking
03:22:36 the mystery the mystery the the key to
03:22:41 to the series it’s just a kind of a gut
03:22:44 feeling that I have yeah anyway well I I
03:22:48 I definitely see Frodo as just an every
03:22:51 man kind of guy
03:22:53 I could see that
03:22:55 how is the devil had his greatest
03:22:57 success
03:22:59 when he has trusted every man
03:23:02 sure another thing also could be in in
03:23:06 some respects the Antichrist is kind of
03:23:09 referred as just
03:23:11 an average Joe Blow Out of Nowhere right
03:23:14 yeah I mean yeah you you that’s
03:23:16 definitely implied in Daniel
03:23:19 yeah
03:23:20 um which go along with what you guys are
03:23:22 saying with Frodo so we could go along
03:23:24 with that
03:23:27 yep pretty close
03:23:33 say that
03:23:34 you thought there was like not gonna be
03:23:37 a singular Antichrist but
03:23:40 the papacy
03:23:42 well the Antichrist in reality it’s the
03:23:47 papacy in my opinion it’s a system but
03:23:50 the way it gets representative in these
03:23:52 Gnostic movies it is an individual
03:23:55 person though I think that the papacy is
03:23:58 just what is just the face of it now
03:24:01 that’s I mean that’s and that’s the
03:24:05 point the papacy the church
03:24:10 is Sauron Mordor
03:24:16 they must be destroyed
03:24:19 or else
03:24:20 Satan himself will never be worshiped
03:24:23 outright
03:24:28 and that’s a possibility because the
03:24:31 papacy is kind of a mixture of the good
03:24:34 and the evil making it so he’s not
03:24:36 worshiped out right
03:24:37 right because it is it’s the old ways
03:24:42 under the guise of Christianity right so
03:24:47 it’s exactly
03:24:48 yeah and still the guys
03:24:53 so that’s a possibility
03:24:57 the and Aragorn
03:25:02 represents the Dominion
03:25:06 of Satan of man
03:25:14 sure
03:25:16 which to these people would be the
03:25:19 bringing Yash ring in peace oh I so that
03:25:23 reminds me of one thing I I read I don’t
03:25:25 know how true it is but
03:25:27 and and in an interview with
03:25:31 um
03:25:33 Jr Tolkien
03:25:35 um
03:25:36 I I think he mentioned or someone asked
03:25:40 him or something along these lines that
03:25:42 the hobbits could represent the Jews
03:25:45 I I don’t remember too many details or
03:25:48 exactly how it’s worded so just keep
03:25:49 that in mind
03:25:53 that’s an interesting thought
03:25:55 okay along with that
03:25:58 um
03:26:00 there are some theories which I think
03:26:02 may have some substance to them but
03:26:05 papacy was originally started by the
03:26:08 Jews and is controlled by the Jews
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03:26:14 it would not be it could not be
03:26:17 um
03:26:19 thank you
03:26:21 it can be pictures it would be the fault
03:26:24 it would be false too
03:26:26 well it will be Jews of the synagogue of
03:26:29 Satan this is why Simon Magnus would be
03:26:33 her first pope yeah
03:26:37 yeah
03:26:39 um
03:26:40 I I don’t know what his lineage was that
03:26:43 would be interesting to find out
03:26:45 um but he was he wasn’t Samaritan he was
03:26:49 a Samaritan
03:26:50 well where he was from the land of
03:26:53 Samaria where he was from Sumerian
03:26:55 whether he was a Samaritan all right but
03:26:58 that would make me wonder if he was at
03:27:00 least an Israelite of some type right
03:27:04 right
03:27:06 um anyways
03:27:11 but I but the the thing is is that the
03:27:15 devil
03:27:16 in the end times just before
03:27:20 just before he’s taken down will be
03:27:22 worshiped outright and those who do not
03:27:24 worship Him will be destroyed
03:27:28 well we’re recording right now
03:27:30 um
03:27:32 you got I can leave this in what goes on
03:27:35 YouTube or take it out I’m finding it
03:27:37 away well I mean mostly mostly right now
03:27:40 we’re kind of just spitballing so I I
03:27:43 I’m glad I think that I think it’s some
03:27:45 interesting spitballing that’s for sure
03:27:47 yeah yeah I think it’s bloody my
03:27:49 so I I’m fine if you guys are fine
03:27:52 leaving I’ll probably just leave it
03:27:54 okay
03:27:58 anyways
03:27:59 um I think it’s I think that’s a good
03:28:01 powwow I I do think Ben has a good point
03:28:03 we need to
03:28:05 get a general fill for the series
03:28:07 because that’s definitely important when
03:28:09 we’re you know doing the correlations to
03:28:11 see what is what is first of all just
03:28:14 kind of know the general story see how
03:28:16 the pieces fit together
03:28:20 under consensus will do the characters
03:28:22 are because what we because what what I
03:28:26 am absolutely convinced of is that what
03:28:29 we will find out
03:28:30 is a step-by-step
03:28:33 planned laid out for the destruction of
03:28:38 mystery Babylon the ushering in
03:28:40 of the Kingdom age of the devil
03:28:46 well I could see that as a very strong
03:28:48 possibility I
03:28:52 um
03:28:53 because that’s kind of the the end game
03:28:56 it’s happening right now so
03:28:59 anyways
03:29:01 um
03:29:02 I think it’s it’s definitely past my
03:29:05 bedtime
03:29:06 oh sure sorry oh okay well I hope you
03:29:09 have a good night and we’ll see you on
03:29:11 we’ll see you next Saturday okay and uh
03:29:14 Happy fasting yes good okay thanks guys
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03:29:21 um