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Be a follower of the Spirit. We are to be followers before we are teachers. Need to deliberately choose to keep Torah to be righteous. Alma 32 how the word becomes delicious to us. Mosiah 3:19 yield to the Holy Spirit. All things means Torah in many instances. Natural man sees Torah as a burden. New man not new excuses. Saints have been sanctified. Tithing in JST Matthew 19:16-22. D&C 42:33 surplus, wants and needs. Give the 10th cow not the 1st cow. Bishops are to be paid for time. Tithing is of money also. D&C 119 interest = surplus. Yeshua specifically calls out false tradition of men of corban from the Talmud. Take care of our parents. Misinterpretations of Matthew 19:16-22. Picking a teacher is very important decision. Torah is different than the Law of Moses. Expounding JST John 9 healing of the blind man. Dust is Satan’s domain. Must cross over [Hebrew] and go believing. Messiah to heal someone who was born blind. D&C (LDS 88:34-35) justified and sanctified by Torah. Perfection is Sanctification. Holy Spirit is Torah. D&C 76 only those who celestial glory who are sanctified need to be baptized by water. Mercy = Justification, Grace = Sanctification.

Links

• Torah
• Lectures on Faith 6
• Tithing
• High Holidays
• Priestcraft
• Law of Moses
• All things You Should DO
• Kingdom of Heaven

Transcript:

00:00:05 so I had a
00:00:08 thought about a week or so back as I was
00:00:12 uh driving back from dropping Mt off at
00:00:16 work he had another funfilled day of fun
00:00:19 and adventure for
00:00:20 him
00:00:23 um I uh as I was driving back I was
00:00:28 thinking about the the way that the
00:00:31 early
00:00:33 Christians identified
00:00:36 themselves uh the
00:00:38 early the Early um Jewish Christians
00:00:42 identify themselves they identifi
00:00:45 themselves as
00:00:47 kesim which is uh which is a blending of
00:00:51 two
00:00:52 words Kesh which is the spirit and IM
00:00:58 follower kesim follower of the
00:01:02 spirit um and I
00:01:05 thought and I also thought about um the
00:01:09 uh the words uh the words that are used
00:01:13 to describe the apostles and The
00:01:15 Disciples of Jesus in the uh Hebrew
00:01:19 gospels they’re called
00:01:22 talim uh talmid again a blending of two
00:01:27 words talmid is a teacher
00:01:31 and IM is
00:01:32 follower the apostles were referred to
00:01:36 as
00:01:38 tadim before they were
00:01:42 Kim and that’s the way it is with all of
00:01:45 us all of
00:01:47 us the idea is to get to the point where
00:01:51 you can follow where you’re living in
00:01:53 the spirit where you’re living in the
00:01:54 spirit because you know the mind and
00:01:57 will of
00:01:58 God so well because you’re living in
00:02:01 it that you uh that you understand when
00:02:05 the promptings that you re when the
00:02:07 spiritual promptings you receive are
00:02:08 from God and when they are
00:02:11 not uh and partly the way to do that is
00:02:14 to know his
00:02:16 Torah because if it goes against his
00:02:18 Torah it wasn’t from him that’s right
00:02:21 even says that and such are
00:02:26 kesim but we all start from a place
00:02:30 just like the apostles just like
00:02:32 yeshua’s Apostles we all start from that
00:02:35 place where we are
00:02:37 T we have to follow the
00:02:40 teacher because the teacher helps us to
00:02:44 the te the teacher the teacher helps us
00:02:46 to learn
00:02:47 things and he helps us to see he helps
00:02:50 us to see things correctly that’s why
00:02:52 it’s so
00:02:53 important that we choose a good
00:02:57 talit yeah or a good teacher yes um so
00:03:04 so that we may so that we may be taught
00:03:08 correctly the law of our God that we may
00:03:12 understand his minded will that we may
00:03:14 ourselves become kesim and as we become
00:03:17 kesim following the spirit living in the
00:03:20 spirit walking in the spirit all the
00:03:22 things that we do are by the spirit or
00:03:24 by
00:03:26 Torah for the for the two are the same
00:03:31 yep the the uh are scriptures being a
00:03:37 manifestation of the mind of the
00:03:39 revealed mind and will of
00:03:41 God so
00:03:43 Torah is and Torah being the revealed
00:03:45 mind and will of God the holy spirit
00:03:48 being the mind and will of God they are
00:03:50 the
00:03:51 same we become
00:03:54 Kim
00:03:57 through knowing the Kadesh
00:04:00 knowing
00:04:01 Torah uh so that way we can deliberately
00:04:04 keep it because otherwise that’s right
00:04:07 if you’re not making a choice to keep it
00:04:10 deliberately you’re not being righteous
00:04:13 but it is
00:04:14 important it is vitally important as
00:04:18 we’re getting our
00:04:19 start to choose good to meat and as we
00:04:26 become as we become
00:04:28 kesim for some the spirit gifts them
00:04:32 with the ability to
00:04:35 teach for some it does
00:04:39 not but for some it gives them the
00:04:41 ability to
00:04:43 teach y there’s different gifts of the
00:04:45 spirits um some are teachers some
00:04:49 are um followers now as been mentioned
00:04:52 teachers have to be followers and the
00:04:55 Book of Mormon states that in places but
00:04:58 uh I’d rather look at some other things
00:05:00 but yeah yeah um and so yeah so the uh
00:05:07 and so that is the
00:05:10 so choose
00:05:14 good choose good tell me then you two
00:05:17 will become
00:05:18 kashim yeah so uh real quick here’s
00:05:22 second Nei
00:05:24 2814 uh if you want Ben I can read it
00:05:27 but it goes along with what you’re
00:05:29 saying yes go ahead so they people in
00:05:33 general wear stiff necks and high heads
00:05:35 meaning they don’t listen to God and
00:05:38 won’t change their ways okay yay because
00:05:41 of Pride and wickedness and Abominations
00:05:44 and
00:05:44 whoredoms they have all gone astray save
00:05:48 it be a
00:05:50 few and these few who are The Humble
00:05:54 followers of the
00:05:57 Messiah nevertheless or or but they are
00:06:02 LED that in many instances they do air
00:06:06 or sin because they are taught by the
00:06:09 precepts of men as in they’re listening
00:06:13 to Bad Teachers okay so yeah so the the
00:06:17 main thing
00:06:19 is is that if you are given the gift to
00:06:23 be able to
00:06:26 teach there is a terrible responsibility
00:06:29 that goes with
00:06:34 that and that is that if you teach
00:06:39 lies you damn your soul to
00:06:46 hell um and
00:06:50 so I encourage and so I
00:06:53 encourage all to receive a teaching by
00:06:57 my hand
00:07:00 to test
00:07:01 it do not just believe it because I said
00:07:07 it
00:07:12 because that’s not the found that’s not
00:07:14 a sure foundation for your gaining
00:07:16 knowledge well
00:07:19 so
00:07:22 um it is good to accept truth no matter
00:07:25 where it comes and then and then as Paul
00:07:28 States in act 17 it’s even better to
00:07:31 then go confirm it inside well yeah
00:07:35 because this is how you actually this is
00:07:37 how you actually internalize the words
00:07:40 of the teacher that’s just how you
00:07:41 internalize the words of the to me Y is
00:07:45 you check it yeah and you come to a
00:07:49 knowledge of
00:07:51 it and
00:07:53 so test the tests in in Alma
00:07:57 32 right
00:07:59 you receive the word you receive a
00:08:01 portion of the word and then you perform
00:08:04 the experiment and when you and when you
00:08:07 feel the results and you see the results
00:08:11 of your test and that the fruit of what
00:08:14 you’re doing is good then you
00:08:17 know you have that
00:08:19 knowledge right so um FYI because this
00:08:24 goes along with what Josh is saying the
00:08:27 Book of Mormon does use the phrase by by
00:08:30 on occasion and that means soon in fact
00:08:33 here it is regarding at least in one
00:08:35 verse here but I did not mean to do that
00:08:39 he did it again yeah anyway some apps
00:08:43 are funny but uh but here I believe this
00:08:47 is a verse that goes along with what
00:08:48 Josh is just saying there um Elma
00:08:52 3242 and because of your diligence and
00:08:55 your faith and your patience with the
00:08:57 word in nourishing it I taking care of
00:08:59 it right that it may take root in you
00:09:04 AKA written upon your heart behold soon
00:09:09 you shall pluck the fruit
00:09:12 thereof um and there’s lots of things
00:09:15 that go along with this but that means
00:09:17 you’re you’re going to start doing it
00:09:19 okay and and thus then receive the joy
00:09:22 that comes from it which is most
00:09:25 precious uh and so this is going along
00:09:28 this fruit also is eternal life
00:09:31 which requires that you are doing y’s
00:09:35 Torah okay which is sweet above all that
00:09:38 is sweet and that which is white above
00:09:41 all that is white and as I’m going along
00:09:45 with yahweh’s glory and his ways right
00:09:47 they’re pure this is interesting this is
00:09:49 interesting this idea of by and by being
00:09:52 soon hi Z hi hey Esther how are you yeah
00:09:59 this idea of by and by being soon being
00:10:01 applied to the fruit which is eternal
00:10:04 life which means that you can taste the
00:10:07 fruit the quality of eternal life in
00:10:12 mortality yes yes you can and that’s
00:10:14 where the joy comes
00:10:17 from
00:10:18 um and there’s lots of verses that get
00:10:21 into that um but yeah you can know we
00:10:25 may not have it completely we have a
00:10:29 taste of it we don’t know it completely
00:10:32 and this is where even here I I’m pretty
00:10:35 sure it said taste
00:10:37 right and that is a start of that it’s
00:10:41 not all of it right so but
00:10:44 anyways well and here’s and here’s
00:10:47 another thought to go along with that
00:10:49 right so as we as we come out of the
00:10:52 world and we are living Torah right
00:10:56 because the world and Torah are
00:10:57 diametrically opposed osed to each other
00:11:01 um persecution will follow
00:11:06 right uh yes but there’s a beauty but
00:11:09 there’s a beauty even in the
00:11:13 persecution yeah and that comes from the
00:11:15 knowledge that we
00:11:17 have right that we are doing what we are
00:11:20 supposed to be doing and we know in whom
00:11:23 we place our trust in our faith and we
00:11:25 know that he has overcome
00:11:27 everything so and that goes along with
00:11:31 lectures on faith six um
00:11:35 where Focus here in this lecture is how
00:11:39 once you get that knowledge you are able
00:11:42 to
00:11:44 withstand and that it actually
00:11:46 specifically States that’s how Abraham
00:11:48 was able to withstand and do what he
00:11:50 needed to
00:11:53 do uh if I remembered how to spell um
00:11:58 maybe maybe it’s not Abraham
00:12:01 but uh this lecture does bring out how
00:12:05 as in law of sacrifice um shows that
00:12:07 once you do the sacrifice and keeping
00:12:10 his
00:12:11 Commandments you then are given this
00:12:13 knowledge and then you can
00:12:15 withstand
00:12:17 um oh oh maybe it’s let’s see observe
00:12:20 the religion that does not require the
00:12:21 sacrifice of all things as power
00:12:23 sufficient to the face
00:12:25 necessary I’m trying to find the verse
00:12:29 okay it was in the offering sacrifices
00:12:31 that Abel the first martyr obtained
00:12:34 knowledge that he was accepted of
00:12:36 Elohim and from the days of righteous
00:12:40 Abel to the present time the knowledge
00:12:42 that men have that they are accepted in
00:12:45 the sight of Elohim is obtained by
00:12:47 offering
00:12:49 sacrifice um and and the sacrifice this
00:12:53 is talking about is keeping the
00:12:55 Commandments and the especially when
00:12:58 it’s bringing out
00:12:59 the the offering that Abel did that was
00:13:02 according to Torah okay yes that that
00:13:07 was Passover but anyways sacrifice is
00:13:10 that we are obedient yes to
00:13:13 Torah and that we sacrifice the natural
00:13:17 man and root him out of our hearts to
00:13:19 follow Torah yes very good than and
00:13:23 there’s a there’s a very good scripture
00:13:25 that talks all about that in mosiah 3:1
00:13:27 17 okay let me go let me go
00:13:32 switch that is very
00:13:41 true
00:13:44 because people love to
00:13:46 say that people are naturally
00:13:51 good uh maybe not 17 No 19 sorry
00:13:55 319 people love to say that people are
00:13:57 naturally good guess what that’s not
00:14:00 scripturally
00:14:02 accurate people are not naturally good
00:14:05 for the natural man is an enemy to
00:14:10 God that makes them
00:14:14 evil well the very least Wicked and has
00:14:17 been from the beg and has been from the
00:14:20 fall of Adam and will be forever and
00:14:22 ever unless he yields to the enticings
00:14:25 of the Holy Spirit and putteth off the
00:14:28 natural man and becometh a saint through
00:14:31 the atonement of Christ the
00:14:34 lord of Yeshua hamashiach and becometh
00:14:37 as a child submissive Meek humble
00:14:42 patient full of love willing to submit
00:14:46 to all things which the Lord seeth fit
00:14:49 to inflict upon him now those all things
00:14:51 that the all things which the Lord seeth
00:14:54 fit to inflict upon Him is Torah yeah um
00:14:57 because every all things is a phrase in
00:15:01 many cases means Torah and it does here
00:15:03 and we can um it absolutely means it
00:15:06 here because there is ABS the things
00:15:09 that most of the bad things that happen
00:15:11 to us in our lives are simply the result
00:15:15 of being
00:15:19 mortal we are mortal bad things happen
00:15:23 they are not inflicted Upon Us by
00:15:27 God but to
00:15:29 his mind and
00:15:31 will
00:15:33 is what he gives
00:15:36 us is what is is what is put upon us
00:15:40 even as a child does submit to his
00:15:42 father so we have to be so the uh the
00:15:47 natural man sees Torah as being
00:15:49 inflicted as as an inflicted
00:15:54 wound yep right because now I can’t do
00:15:57 it but we we need to but we need to
00:16:01 crucify the natural man just as Christ
00:16:04 was
00:16:08 crucified we need to crucify the natural
00:16:14 man and with
00:16:16 Christ and with
00:16:19 Christ be laid in the water and with
00:16:23 Christ be raised out of the
00:16:27 water
00:16:30 that we may become a
00:16:34 saint just like when Christ went into
00:16:38 the
00:16:39 Earth or when when Christ when
00:16:44 Christ was when Christ went was in the
00:16:49 uh I believe it’s uh when
00:16:52 Christ was giving us the sign of Jonas
00:16:54 when he was in the belly of the Earth
00:16:57 for three days
00:17:01 and he came up and was risen again so
00:17:04 when we are buried in the
00:17:07 water it
00:17:12 should preceding that we should have
00:17:15 crucified the natural
00:17:17 man and then be raised from the water a
00:17:20 new man or woman in Yeshua
00:17:25 hamashiach a new man or woman does
00:17:28 things in a new way not doing things the
00:17:32 old way with new
00:17:37 excuses and so so this is the and so
00:17:41 this is the thing uh this is this is
00:17:43 where it is this is
00:17:46 why
00:17:48 those who were of those who
00:17:53 followed
00:17:55 Christ in the early days
00:17:58 in the early days called themselves
00:18:01 kesim because they were new men and
00:18:05 women in the spirit upon
00:18:07 baptism sure many instances there are
00:18:11 many instances where they received the
00:18:13 baptism of fire immediately upon
00:18:16 baptism yeah um no just not to put that
00:18:20 down but they they went by multiple
00:18:22 names and that was one of them was not
00:18:24 the only one them
00:18:27 right
00:18:28 but
00:18:31 regardless uh
00:18:33 the
00:18:36 they they were not known as Christians
00:18:39 in the
00:18:41 beginning no no they weren’t
00:18:45 um so one one thing that’s interesting
00:18:48 here on verse
00:18:51 19 um so this holy
00:18:54 spirit is actually saying Torah Cu uh
00:18:58 one one of the definitions of spirit is
00:19:00 behavior and the way that Yahweh Elohim
00:19:03 tells us to behave holy is in his Torah
00:19:07 and that teaches us how to put off the
00:19:10 natural
00:19:12 man now also this brings out how a saint
00:19:17 is someone who has done that there
00:19:20 Saints are those who have been
00:19:24 Sanctified that they’re actually have
00:19:26 put off the natural man not that they’re
00:19:30 still struggling with it and become a
00:19:33 new man or
00:19:38 woman in the spirit living in the
00:19:43 spirit aka the behavior AKA
00:19:49 Torah
00:19:50 yep so that was uh that was your thought
00:19:55 so that’s my thought and the spin-off
00:19:56 from it
00:19:59 so well those were some good thoughts
00:20:01 right and so I I would encourage uh and
00:20:04 so like I say test all
00:20:08 things be be
00:20:12 accept and
00:20:14 test accept what is
00:20:16 true and
00:20:19 test
00:20:21 no and if it is true it will stand the
00:20:24 test yeah as you brought out with Alma
00:20:26 32 and you’ll start getting fruit
00:20:28 right yep and it will start to be
00:20:32 delicious
00:20:35 yes um I forget the verse but that would
00:20:37 be easy most desirable and I’ll tell you
00:20:39 and I’ll tell you was it desirable most
00:20:42 desirable most desirable well which is
00:20:45 it said which is most desirable and
00:20:48 delicious above all other fruit I think
00:20:51 or something to
00:20:52 that yeah so there’s
00:20:57 desire
00:20:59 uh so desire and delicious is there
00:21:02 desire is there more often though so but
00:21:05 they’re
00:21:06 both y yeah and it beginneth to be
00:21:09 delicious to
00:21:10 me so yeah it begin I like this it
00:21:15 beginneth to
00:21:17 Enlighten
00:21:22 mying light in the darkness well and
00:21:26 it’s it’s like I say poro was the light
00:21:29 that God called onto creation on the
00:21:32 first day poro
00:21:34 was yeah
00:21:37 yeah um it’s without that none of this
00:21:41 without that and without Yeshua none of
00:21:43 this is possible because we need both
00:21:46 correct and Torah testifies of the
00:21:50 father and the son which yes correlates
00:21:54 with it being the holy spirit so
00:21:59 ah all these correlations I wonder if
00:22:01 they’re by accident or because it just
00:22:03 is no but you’ve got to understand
00:22:06 anyways I’m not gonna go down that
00:22:08 road anyways
00:22:11 um so pause that was really good thought
00:22:15 Ben that was really good thoughts man
00:22:16 really good thoughts thanks did you
00:22:18 wantan to say something
00:22:21 Zach no no okay all right I’m
00:22:25 pause so I had a thought about the rich
00:22:29 man uh upon the road um that deals with
00:22:34 tithing and Josh would like to hear it
00:22:36 so we’re gonna focus on that and so this
00:22:40 is jst Matthew chapter 19 and we’re
00:22:44 going to start with verse
00:22:47 16 um Josh do you want to read 16 sure
00:22:53 you want me to read the uh the whole
00:22:56 thing without the line with the lineup
00:22:58 jst so cross outs don’t say and bolds
00:23:02 you do say
00:23:05 okay okay okay uh and behold one came
00:23:09 and said good Master what good thing
00:23:13 shall I do that I may have eternal
00:23:16 life so here here’s a rich man just uh
00:23:21 because we know everybody I think this
00:23:24 is pretty famous one but he’s a rich man
00:23:27 coming down the road
00:23:30 and and he’s calling Yeshua good okay
00:23:34 and the first thing he’s do is going to
00:23:35 address that and uh Zach you read
00:23:41 17 and he said unto him why call us thou
00:23:45 me good there is none good but one that
00:23:48 is God but if thou Wilt enter into life
00:23:53 keep keep the Commandments okay so this
00:23:55 is a really interesting thing in verse
00:23:57 17
00:23:58 it’s like uh what he’s saying here
00:24:03 is
00:24:05 he’s the guy Yeshua is sorry you’re the
00:24:09 guy has called him
00:24:10 good and Yeshua is like what he’s
00:24:14 basically saying is you don’t believe
00:24:15 that I am who I am so why are you good
00:24:19 correct he Yeshua is saying you don’t
00:24:20 believe on God so why are you calling me
00:24:24 good right because there’s only one good
00:24:27 person or
00:24:28 only one that has never sinned and that
00:24:30 is Yeshua okay right um but then he he
00:24:34 addresses that and then says if th will
00:24:36 enter into eternal life right I’m adding
00:24:40 Eternal but anyways because it’s up
00:24:42 there uh that’s right
00:24:45 Torah yeah okay so there’s this
00:24:49 residence here of Torah keep Torah to
00:24:51 get eternal life okay
00:24:54 yeah Ben you want to read 18 yeah that
00:24:57 that’s that’s important context by the
00:25:00 way yes it’ll get more clear as go on
00:25:03 it’s important context for the way in
00:25:05 which uh Yeshua frames this up yeah and
00:25:09 he saith unto him
00:25:12 which okay so this is one of those I’m
00:25:15 gonna get smart and Dodge what he’s just
00:25:18 told me right right because he doesn’t
00:25:20 believe he’s God he thinks he’s just a
00:25:23 teacher and he thinks he can trip him up
00:25:25 here right yep so he say to him which
00:25:28 Yeshua
00:25:30 said Thou shalt uh Thou shalt not kill
00:25:36 Thou shalt not commit adultery Thou
00:25:38 shalt not steal Thou shalt not bear
00:25:40 false
00:25:41 witness okay so let’s stop there so
00:25:45 there he listed four there he’s going to
00:25:47 list oh I I’ll read the fifth one he
00:25:49 lists and then we’ll talk about it okay
00:25:52 fifth one he listes honor thy father and
00:25:54 thy mother and thou shalt love thy
00:25:57 neighbor and as thyself
00:25:59 so the this last this first one a first
00:26:04 half of 19 is a specific commandment
00:26:07 from the 10 divisions of Torah okay yes
00:26:10 this last one is a
00:26:12 summary of the five dealing with our
00:26:17 neighbors okay yep um so with that in
00:26:21 mind let’s go and look at my Torah page
00:26:27 and I’m looking at a specific part where
00:26:29 I’m listing the 10 divisions of Torah so
00:26:33 there’s the five that deal with um your
00:26:38 leaders specifically Yahweh and your
00:26:41 parents okay and then there’s the five
00:26:44 dealing with others okay
00:26:47 neighbor did you want to say something
00:26:49 Ben I just said your neighbor your
00:26:52 neighbor yeah sorry sorry if I said it
00:26:54 wrong um so the first one he list is
00:26:57 Thou shalt not murder right right second
00:27:01 one he listed Thou shalt not commit
00:27:03 adultery right Thou shalt not steal Thou
00:27:07 shalt not bear false witness now it’s
00:27:11 interesting
00:27:12 here um that he then lists another one
00:27:16 out of
00:27:19 order now I will tell you he did that on
00:27:23 purpose um so as we can let’s just look
00:27:26 here how
00:27:28 these Ten Commandments have five
00:27:32 principles um so one commandment one and
00:27:35 commandment six both have don’t do away
00:27:38 with
00:27:39 others okay commandment two and
00:27:41 commandment seven has to do don’t betray
00:27:44 relationships commandment three and
00:27:46 commandment eight don’t violate
00:27:48 commandment four Y and nine protect the
00:27:53 truth um and so I need to update this
00:27:56 because this is a little old now part of
00:27:59 commandment 5 and 10 is recognizing
00:28:01 yourself but there is another part in
00:28:03 here that has to do with tithing which
00:28:06 is what we’re going to get at but um
00:28:10 it I do believe it’s
00:28:13 purposeful that
00:28:15 Yeshua stated the fifth in place of the
00:28:20 10th and this even gives fil of the
00:28:26 split of five by five split that I that
00:28:29 I believe in and kind of promote
00:28:33 right now the interesting thing here
00:28:36 both of five and 10 have to De with
00:28:41 tithing different aspects of tithing so
00:28:46 some of tithing goes
00:28:50 to the judges of the church okay right
00:28:55 and that would go along with the
00:28:57 vertical portion of the tithing
00:29:01 commandment the other ones do not covet
00:29:04 has to do with tithing giving to your
00:29:08 neighbor okay those are
00:29:11 two categories of tithing okay um and
00:29:16 that might not be the best way to put
00:29:18 it but there are two different divisions
00:29:21 of tithing or because they both have to
00:29:24 go over these two different Commandments
00:29:25 here now it’s interesting if we go back
00:29:31 here um he brings out what was it verse
00:29:35 19 Thou shalt love the neighbor as
00:29:38 thyself so he’s kind of pointing the
00:29:39 focus is loving your
00:29:41 neighbor right that’s not what’s going
00:29:44 on with the fifth commandment which he
00:29:49 actually States here honor thy father
00:29:53 and mother that doesn’t have to do with
00:29:55 your
00:29:56 neighbor no has to do with your family
00:29:59 right and it actually also then points
00:30:01 to your Authority your parents yep and
00:30:05 God or Elohim okay but uh this does
00:30:10 touch it means your parents
00:30:14 Elohim and
00:30:18 those who and those who um and those who
00:30:23 are called to be a light unto the people
00:30:27 yeah so this has to do with uh leaders
00:30:31 okay um because your father and mother
00:30:33 is a leader the ultimate leader is
00:30:35 Yahweh but he does call other leaders so
00:30:38 the Ten Commandments are kind of
00:30:40 summaries
00:30:42 of everything that goes under each one
00:30:44 of those okay they’re not full pictures
00:30:47 they’re a quick
00:30:51 summary uh because all the other
00:30:55 Commandments will fit under these
00:30:59 10 right right everything else goes
00:31:01 under these in some way shape or correct
00:31:04 form as I’m stating here there’s
00:31:08 two main types of tithing one goes with
00:31:12 your neighbor one goes with your
00:31:14 Authority okay and if I remember
00:31:17 correctly in Torah the one for the
00:31:18 neighbor was levied every three
00:31:20 years uh you had three years to pay it
00:31:24 yeah okay yeah so it is it’s an every
00:31:28 year thing but if you didn’t know who to
00:31:31 give it to you had three years to give
00:31:33 it to someone right right and that is so
00:31:37 there’s multiple aspects of the tithing
00:31:40 to your neighbor some of it you gave to
00:31:44 the priests to give to others like in
00:31:46 Malachi right the storehouse okay right
00:31:49 another part though is that you are to
00:31:52 give to the poor yourself
00:31:55 personally correct
00:31:58 and that and they gave you a three-year
00:32:00 window to do that and then there was
00:32:03 also a uh then you were also to leave
00:32:07 the farmers were to leave the corners of
00:32:10 their land to be gathered by the poor
00:32:13 I.E and that was a t and that was a
00:32:16 tithe as well yeah yeah and that would
00:32:18 go with 10 of with the tithing for your
00:32:21 neighbor okay do not cover it um because
00:32:24 the priests weren’t going out and
00:32:26 Gathering that that was something that
00:32:28 the poor they did themselves and they
00:32:30 put forth effort to do that but anyways
00:32:33 so there’s these two
00:32:34 divisions or two types of tithings or
00:32:38 two basic types of tithing okay now let
00:32:41 let’s go back but so he this instead of
00:32:47 the neighbor tithing he did the Yeshua
00:32:50 did the leader tithing
00:32:54 okay so let’s go read a little bit more
00:33:01 uh oh 20 Josh you want 20 I said yeah
00:33:06 sure the young man said unto him all
00:33:09 these things I’ve kept from my youth up
00:33:12 okay so black guy yet right right so he
00:33:16 this guy was keeping leader tithing
00:33:20 Church tithing okay right he admitted
00:33:23 that he just said that because honor thy
00:33:24 father and mother uh part of so part of
00:33:28 that is actually taking care of your
00:33:30 parents after they are not able to okay
00:33:34 and that gets into the Corbin tradition
00:33:36 that’s in the New
00:33:37 Testament anyways um part of the leader
00:33:41 tithing is taking care of your parents
00:33:44 right
00:33:46 um now here this young rich man is
00:33:49 saying I’ve done all that right and he
00:33:51 thinks he’s pretty hot stuff yeah yeah
00:33:54 he’s like what what else do I need to do
00:33:57 all
00:33:58 right uh Zach you want to read the next
00:34:01 verse
00:34:02 21 wait before we head on you know I
00:34:05 just I just had a thought okay right so
00:34:08 this young this young rich man he
00:34:12 addresses somebody as good master that
00:34:15 he doesn’t believe is the good Master
00:34:18 correct and all of all of
00:34:22 this that Yeshua is setting up right now
00:34:28 is to teach this young
00:34:31 man not only about tithing and and and
00:34:35 obeying tithing stuff like that but
00:34:37 teaching him that yes I am the
00:34:42 one yeah because he’s reading his
00:34:45 thoughts because and
00:34:46 he’s placing and he’s arranging things
00:34:50 very cleverly that people will who are
00:34:53 familiar with Torah will catch right
00:34:56 right yes even to the point that he put
00:34:59 the fifth out of order in replacement of
00:35:02 the 10th they would have caught that and
00:35:06 you’ll see as we go on he that’s brought
00:35:10 out as we continue on through here
00:35:13 okay um so I forget Zach did you read 21
00:35:19 I can’t I don’t think you did no we
00:35:20 haven’t read 21 yet yeah okay yes sure
00:35:24 said to him thought it would be perfect
00:35:27 go
00:35:28 sell that thou Hast and give it to the
00:35:32 poor th shalt have treasure in heaven
00:35:35 and come and follow
00:35:37 me so this has multiple things here
00:35:43 uh if you will be
00:35:46 Sanctified now go do the tenth
00:35:49 commandment and do tithing go sell one/
00:35:53 tenth of your
00:35:55 Surplus such that you can have the
00:35:57 promise in
00:35:58 Malachi right in other plac follow me
00:36:03 and follow me as in I’m
00:36:06 God I am the one that you don’t think I
00:36:10 am right but I I like how he says and
00:36:14 come and follow me not just follow
00:36:20 me this whole thing he chose every
00:36:23 single word that he said with care
00:36:27 because he was he he was trying to reach
00:36:31 this young man he was trying to teach
00:36:33 this young man he was trying to help
00:36:36 this young man
00:36:39 understand all that he needed to
00:36:43 understand you man of
00:36:45 course you know what I like away
00:36:49 but the wording that I like here go sell
00:36:54 that thou Hast
00:36:57 that’s not saying sell everything right
00:37:01 this is where a lot of people interpret
00:37:03 it as an everything sell that thou Hast
00:37:07 I mean that is
00:37:09 just you know because the things that
00:37:13 you the things that are required just
00:37:14 for your sustenance you don’t really
00:37:16 have
00:37:17 them
00:37:19 correct well you have a house
00:37:23 um some people do you own a house
00:37:27 I will I will posit that even that those
00:37:29 who are still paying a mortgage on their
00:37:31 house they don’t have their house have
00:37:33 house well sure sure but not everybody’s
00:37:35 paying a mortgage that has a house
00:37:39 right ta and and they still have to pay
00:37:41 taxes so they don’t actually have their
00:37:43 house
00:37:45 either I think that’s a different issue
00:37:48 uh which I’m happy to get into but
00:37:50 anyways yeah but that’s but that’s
00:37:52 outside of the perview of what we’re
00:37:53 talking about here yeah um but go sell
00:37:58 that thou Hast the things that we have
00:38:01 are the ex are that which is in excess
00:38:04 of our
00:38:05 wants is that which is an excess of our
00:38:08 needs and our wants according to the
00:38:12 doctrine of
00:38:14 covenants do you have a verse for
00:38:22 that while you’re looking so I’m going
00:38:24 to pause I need to here we
00:38:28 go okay doctrine of Covenant section
00:38:31 42:33 this is the um this is where wants
00:38:36 and need this is where this is one of
00:38:38 those scriptures where once and needs
00:38:39 are actually uh ex are actually lumped
00:38:44 they’re kind of put together here uh
00:38:47 with regard so when we pay when we give
00:38:50 tithing to people it’s not just their
00:38:53 needs there is a a a degree of wants
00:38:57 that they are allowed to
00:38:59 have not knowing what this verse says
00:39:02 but just understanding the principle
00:39:04 it’s not all their wants but some of
00:39:07 their wants right it’s not all your most
00:39:09 extravagant wants but you know
00:39:13 that the idea is that there be no poor
00:39:15 among them and again if there shall be
00:39:19 properties in the hands of the church or
00:39:21 any individuals of it more than is
00:39:22 necessary for their support after this
00:39:24 first consecration which is residue to
00:39:27 be consecrated unto the bishop it shall
00:39:28 be kept to administer to those who have
00:39:30 not from time to time that every man who
00:39:32 has need may be amply supplied and
00:39:35 receive according to his wants sure sure
00:39:39 sure right right so in here uh more than
00:39:43 is necessary that is
00:39:46 Surplus right exactly so this is this
00:39:50 this is the point is that the Surplus is
00:39:55 beyond is the Surplus is that which is
00:39:58 beyond
00:39:59 our our needs and reasonable
00:40:03 wants right um and and to get specific
00:40:08 119 says a tenth of the Surplus but if
00:40:11 you want to give more that’s fine but
00:40:14 the minimum is
00:40:15 one% so let’s so let’s also go Surplus
00:40:19 not grow Sur right not everything right
00:40:23 yeah yeah so section 51 well just think
00:40:26 about that if it’s 10% of everything
00:40:28 then technically you should be giving up
00:40:30 10% of the oxygen that you breathe too
00:40:32 but anyway oh so we can be like so so
00:40:36 that we can be like the apocryphal New
00:40:38 Jersey okay anyways so what verse in
00:40:43 51 well there’s several actually let’s
00:40:46 start in verse three I’m sorry I just
00:40:48 had to throw that out there just show
00:40:51 how how thoroughly ridiculous 10% of
00:40:53 everything is yeah it is so starting in
00:40:57 51 verse fact just on that fact I’m
00:41:01 going to Sidetrack just a little bit if
00:41:03 you had 10 or nine Surplus
00:41:07 cows uh how much tithing do you
00:41:11 give zero well yeah zero because you
00:41:15 give the tenth now the elius church
00:41:18 teaches that it’s the first but the
00:41:22 scriptures actually teach it’s it’s the
00:41:25 last it’s not the first cow that you
00:41:28 give it’s the last surplus of 10 cow
00:41:32 that you give so if you only have would
00:41:35 chop you wouldn’t chop the cow’s hind
00:41:38 Quarters off and give the first three
00:41:40 quarters of the cow to somebody here you
00:41:42 go hope this helps well no but that’s
00:41:46 food so I I I I I understand what you’re
00:41:49 saying but it is food so it would help
00:41:51 but but but at a certain point in time
00:41:55 in history they were work animals they
00:41:57 were farm animals they they helped you
00:42:00 oh right so it depends on what the cow
00:42:02 was being used for but one of the things
00:42:04 they are used for is meat because
00:42:06 they’re kosher so can can we get back to
00:42:10 need to wants and needs sure sure sure
00:42:12 yeah go back to three yep wherefore let
00:42:16 my servant Edward Partridge and Those
00:42:18 whom he has chosen and whom I am well
00:42:20 pleased to point onto this people their
00:42:22 portions every man equal according to
00:42:24 his family according to his
00:42:26 circumstances and his wants and needs
00:42:29 also verse
00:42:33 eight right there and the money which is
00:42:36 left unto this people let there be an
00:42:38 agent appointed unto this people to make
00:42:40 take the money to provide food and rment
00:42:42 according to the wants of the
00:42:45 people sure and that that is the a
00:42:49 levite uh who or a meisd Helder who is
00:42:54 acting as the bishop right
00:42:56 right right now verse
00:42:58 13
00:43:02 okay okay and again let the bishop
00:43:04 appoint a storehouse unto his church and
00:43:07 let all things oh wait a minute wait I
00:43:09 I’m
00:43:10 sorry unto this church onto this church
00:43:15 sorry not the church so uh there’s a
00:43:19 difference there this is where each um I
00:43:23 don’t know if this will be Branch or
00:43:25 stake but it’s considered a different
00:43:28 Church than the overall
00:43:32 Grand
00:43:33 Church he’s speaking geographically here
00:43:37 okay so and again let the bishop appoint
00:43:39 a storehouse unto this church and let
00:43:42 all things both in money and let all
00:43:44 things both in money and meat which are
00:43:46 more than is needful for the wants of
00:43:48 his people be kept in the hands of his
00:43:50 bishop and of the bishop and let him
00:43:53 also Reserve onto himself for for his
00:43:56 own
00:43:57 wants and for the wants of his family as
00:44:00 he shall be employed in doing this
00:44:02 business yeah yeah so this is starting
00:44:05 to get into the two types of
00:44:09 tithing um
00:44:12 where here is some areas where I haven’t
00:44:15 completely figured out but this does
00:44:18 show how some tiing goes to judges
00:44:22 Bishops are Judges and they they did
00:44:26 physical work and they are to be paid
00:44:28 for their time contrary to what is going
00:44:31 on right now and it also talks about how
00:44:34 it’s for the poor also okay and here’s
00:44:37 the and here’s the kicker Doctrine in
00:44:38 Covenant
00:44:43 70 hold
00:44:45 on oh sorry 70 yep section 70 oh SE okay
00:44:50 sorry sorry about that section
00:44:54 70
00:44:56 verse
00:45:01 seven nevertheless in as much as they
00:45:04 receive more than is needful for their
00:45:06 necessities and their wants it shall be
00:45:09 given into my
00:45:10 Storehouse yeah yeah which that is the
00:45:15 that is the boldface statement of what
00:45:19 of what I of what I have put forward
00:45:22 that it’s according to our necessities
00:45:25 and reasonable want right right which it
00:45:28 goes along with Surplus in in my hon
00:45:31 opinion but and so that’s the Bas
00:45:33 statement of that sure sure sure and
00:45:35 that is very much worded the same that
00:45:38 we saw in Matthew 19 right honest
00:45:43 opinion I think it’s yeah teaching the
00:45:45 exact same thing right sell that thou
00:45:50 Hast right right so I now it didn’t say
00:45:54 it doesn’t say go sell everything right
00:45:57 right now I think the reason he says
00:45:59 selling is because he probably went and
00:46:03 bought silver pots gold pots gold cups
00:46:07 silver cups so on a lot of I’m sure he
00:46:10 had some I’m
00:46:11 sure he had some luxury items yeah right
00:46:14 right and because this was a rich man he
00:46:18 probably wasn’t dealing in in farm items
00:46:23 so because of that he had to sell what
00:46:26 he had so that what it can then be given
00:46:29 to the money portion could be used to go
00:46:31 buy food for the poor now it is
00:46:34 interesting back
00:46:36 in was it 70 or one of the others I know
00:46:40 some people will try to claim well it’s
00:46:43 only architect or not architecture um
00:46:47 stuff of the land how do you what’s that
00:46:50 I’m having agriculture agult yes that
00:46:52 word thank you they say tithing is only
00:46:55 after that now was it this section or
00:46:58 the other sections so what was the other
00:47:01 was it 42 and what what was the second
00:47:05 uh 51 42 and 51 okay
00:47:08 51 it actually used the word
00:47:12 money all right there verse yes uh 8
00:47:18 11 and 13
00:47:21 specifies money as part of tithing both
00:47:25 in money more of a modern type of thing
00:47:28 because I I don’t know about you I’m a
00:47:30 software engineer I I don’t deal with
00:47:32 chickens very much so I don’t have a I
00:47:36 don’t have
00:47:37 a you’re not missing a lot okay um well
00:47:41 anyways having dealt with chickens um I
00:47:44 can tell you right
00:47:47 now you haven’t missed much well my my
00:47:51 main point is back then they mostly
00:47:54 dealt with can you say the word again
00:47:56 for me agriculture yeah they mostly
00:47:59 dealt in there but not only and so the
00:48:04 scriptures dealt with mostly what they
00:48:07 dealt with and now the judges themselves
00:48:09 would know it go with money and and my a
00:48:12 big support of that that I would have
00:48:14 and I would submit is DNC 51 that we
00:48:17 just went over is talking about money
00:48:20 here it’s has to do with in fact DNC 119
00:48:25 talks about it as an increase even so it
00:48:28 doesn’t matter what it is yeah I think
00:48:32 it’s in verse eight it specifically says
00:48:36 that an agent be appointed to the people
00:48:37 to take the
00:48:39 money to provide food right right now it
00:48:44 it could be chickens or it could be cows
00:48:47 but in in modern society it’s much
00:48:50 easier to deal with it with it was all
00:48:53 purchased through money right right and
00:48:57 and also in verse 13 which we just read
00:48:59 and again let the bishop appoint a a
00:49:03 storehouse onto this church and let all
00:49:06 things both and let all things both in
00:49:08 money both in money money and and meat
00:49:12 which is food which is food which are
00:49:16 more
00:49:17 agriculture yeah yeah which are more
00:49:21 than is needful for the wants of this
00:49:24 people be kept in the hands of the
00:49:26 bishop and a storehouse which is
00:49:29 why U which is why the um injunction in
00:49:38 Malachi uh is actually against those who
00:49:42 were keeping the storehouse because they
00:49:44 were
00:49:45 skimming right so a lot of churches
00:49:49 including the LDS brigite church will
00:49:51 try to say that that chapter is about
00:49:55 the givers no that was about the
00:49:58 takers um that it was condemning um now
00:50:03 one thing I want I think it’s in this
00:50:05 one I forget
00:50:08 um I just want to look at one uh no so
00:50:11 it’s not that one I’m
00:50:16 sorry it’s not that oh maybe it’s this
00:50:18 one
00:50:19 um yeah this is this one so I have dc19
00:50:25 as a km here uh I I have KMS on the
00:50:28 brain but the the thing that’s
00:50:31 interesting here that the kism really
00:50:34 helps
00:50:35 support uh they shall pay one tenth of
00:50:38 their
00:50:40 interest which is uh stands a DC and the
00:50:44 other DC is their Surplus now
00:50:48 interest talks about profit which is Sur
00:50:53 AKA Surplus
00:50:57 correct um because if you don’t have
00:51:00 profit then you just have barely
00:51:03 enough your needs are met you’re good
00:51:07 yeah
00:51:10 right you have
00:51:12 morean you mean being able to being able
00:51:15 to rack up massive profits is not a sign
00:51:17 of being a
00:51:20 prophet those are different spellings
00:51:23 and you know
00:51:24 that
00:51:27 that’s nice play on words there bud yeah
00:51:30 nice play on
00:51:31 words uh but
00:51:35 sadly many false prophets deal with
00:51:38 money
00:51:40 profits right um that that’s that’s what
00:51:44 their desire is exclusively everything
00:51:46 they say everything they say and
00:51:48 everything they do is geared to get more
00:51:51 yeah more money not uh Believers in
00:51:53 Yeshua the Messiah um correct so but
00:51:57 anyways so um it I I do think the case
00:52:02 has been laid out that um we are
00:52:06 to give a tenth or more of our Surplus
00:52:10 right but the interesting the
00:52:12 interesting thing about that is that
00:52:15 tithing is tied both to honoring your
00:52:19 father and your mother and not
00:52:24 coveting yeah
00:52:25 there’s the two main
00:52:27 categories um and Leadership and so on
00:52:34 this honor thy father and mother part
00:52:36 let’s just look at that just real quick
00:52:38 and the uh Corbin from the New Testament
00:52:42 um we can um maybe we should go look at
00:52:45 that verse so let me
00:52:48 pause while the Corbin is mentioned in
00:52:51 the New Testament it’s actually
00:52:52 enshrined in the talut right right well
00:52:55 it’s condemned in the New Testament um
00:52:58 right so uh let’s go get the verse and
00:53:01 then we can talk about it okay so let me
00:53:04 pause while we
00:53:06 okay so we were talking about um so we
00:53:10 were talking about the uh tradition the
00:53:13 oral tradition at this point at the
00:53:16 point of the New Testament it was oral
00:53:17 tradition it got codified into the
00:53:20 toal
00:53:22 um this is that is called called
00:53:26 Corbin
00:53:28 um now it was the
00:53:31 responsibility of the oldest child of
00:53:35 the oldest male child or of the oldest
00:53:37 child in a HEB the oldest male oldest
00:53:40 male child in a Hebrew family to take
00:53:43 care of the parents when they couldn’t
00:53:44 take care of themselves however just FYI
00:53:48 just give them a little background
00:53:49 that’s partly the reason why the eldest
00:53:52 male got the double portion CU some of
00:53:54 that is to take care of the elderly
00:53:58 parent which typically was the mother
00:54:00 but anyways right so so they they they
00:54:05 have the sacred responsibility to take
00:54:07 care of their parents when they can’t
00:54:08 take care of themselves but it was
00:54:13 reasoned among the uh among the
00:54:18 rabbis that if that portion which was
00:54:22 going to take care of their parents
00:54:26 was made corbid or granted to the
00:54:31 temple that they didn’t have to take
00:54:33 care of their
00:54:35 parents because they
00:54:38 had they didn’t have that they that
00:54:42 portion was now was now
00:54:45 given so this is the and this is one of
00:54:48 those uh this is one of those wonderful
00:54:50 arguments you can read about in the
00:54:52 talet if
00:54:54 you
00:54:56 and I say you can read about it because
00:54:58 I have read about
00:55:00 it we I one of the things that bothers
00:55:03 me is when people who love the talmud
00:55:06 tell people who don’t love the talmud
00:55:08 that the reason they don’t love it is
00:55:09 because they haven’t read it well I I I
00:55:12 will admit I haven’t read all of it but
00:55:14 neither have they but I have read some
00:55:17 of it absolutely it is absolutely
00:55:21 impossible to read the entirety of the
00:55:24 talet yeah it’s it’s huge it’s huge um
00:55:28 but I uh I have read some of it
00:55:33 and there are some things that are
00:55:35 useful for it for history and knowing
00:55:37 Traditions that yesu was speaking out
00:55:39 against in the New Testament this is one
00:55:42 example and there are also some other
00:55:45 traditions and there are some there are
00:55:48 some uh I’ve read about some helpful
00:55:51 I’ve read about some traditions that
00:55:53 have helped me um that have helped me in
00:55:57 um in my understanding of certain High
00:56:02 holidays for
00:56:04 instance um that that I found helpful
00:56:07 from the talet but the but generally
00:56:12 speaking um there’s a lot in the talud
00:56:16 that uh
00:56:18 is additional to
00:56:21 Torah and as in yeshua’s ver words makes
00:56:26 Torah no and void so
00:56:31 yes but okay so with that I I think
00:56:34 let’s read this um tradition here that
00:56:38 deals with the
00:56:39 tithing uh portion that dealing with our
00:56:42 leaders including our our parents okay
00:56:45 so there’s Mark 711 I I’ll read this but
00:56:49 you say that if a man says to his father
00:56:52 or mother whatsoever ever you would have
00:56:56 received from me as in to take care of
00:56:59 them is
00:57:01 Corbin which means a gift devoted to
00:57:06 Elohim or to the temple okay um so
00:57:12 they’re getting out of taking care of
00:57:16 their parents with their money and
00:57:19 claiming that this money is to go to God
00:57:22 in the temple despite that haven’t even
00:57:25 given it to God in the temple yet which
00:57:28 is I find ironic but uh it’s also in
00:57:31 Matthew 155 I’ll just read that one real
00:57:35 quick um it’s using it’s not using the
00:57:38 word Corbin it’s the same tradition but
00:57:41 you say that if anyone says to his
00:57:44 father and mother whatever you would
00:57:46 have received from me is a gift devoted
00:57:48 to Elohim he need not honor his father
00:57:53 or mother with it thus
00:57:55 thus you nullify the word of Elohim for
00:57:58 the sake of your Traditions so this is
00:58:02 really bringing out
00:58:04 how people like to claim who don’t know
00:58:08 any better and some that do that the
00:58:11 Sadducees and Pharisees were only
00:58:13 pushing Torah here is a
00:58:16 verse uh and I’m sure if I read more in
00:58:19 mark it 7even it would be there also
00:58:22 that yeser is specifically stating
00:58:25 your false Traditions are making Torah
00:58:28 null and void meaning you’re not keeping
00:58:32 Torah you’re breaking it with these
00:58:34 false
00:58:35 Traditions well yeah and the the thing
00:58:38 about the particularly the tradition of
00:58:43 Corbin was it was it was particularly
00:58:46 offensive to
00:58:48 God
00:58:51 because
00:58:53 here you’re short
00:58:56 changing well you’re totally doing
00:59:01 out you’re F your
00:59:04 parents breaking the
00:59:07 Commandment by promise and all you have
00:59:10 to do is promise to give a double
00:59:16 portion to
00:59:20 God so you make God
00:59:23 stink
00:59:25 by not taking care of your parents which
00:59:28 is uh who gave you life and helps
00:59:34 you make your way in life right and here
00:59:37 you are just completely abandoning them
00:59:41 just like they’re abandoning
00:59:44 God right well not only are you
00:59:47 abandoning
00:59:48 God you are
00:59:51 defaming
00:59:53 God
00:59:55 you are turning your back you’re you are
00:59:57 turning your back on all that is
00:59:59 good right you think about when you
01:00:02 think about that act when you think
01:00:04 think about it in its totality
01:00:08 right you are saying mom and
01:00:12 dad you get nothing because God gets
01:00:18 everything um and that’s what God has to
01:00:21 say to
01:00:23 you
01:00:25 that’s what you’re
01:00:26 saying and God says the actual opposite
01:00:29 in the New Testament
01:00:31 um um one thing it’s a vile pernicious
01:00:34 teaching but yes uh so one thing I will
01:00:38 say real quick that this goes against in
01:00:41 the Greek World they love retirement
01:00:46 funds and that people are supposedly are
01:00:49 supposed to take care of themselves with
01:00:50 retirement funds I see something
01:00:53 different with honor thy father and
01:00:55 mother as even as Yeshua brought out
01:00:57 because it’s bringing out these New
01:01:00 Testament verses that we read bring out
01:01:03 how um the children specifically or more
01:01:09 primarily the firstborn son is to take
01:01:13 care of the
01:01:17 parents uh when they get old and they
01:01:19 can’t do it
01:01:20 themselves it’s not the fact that they
01:01:23 have a retirement fund
01:01:25 that they stay alive it’s because the
01:01:27 firstborn son takes care of
01:01:30 it and if you think about it the
01:01:32 retirement fund is is just another way
01:01:34 of saying I can save
01:01:36 myself yeah yeah it’s not trusting God
01:01:41 correct um and it’s trusting men that in
01:01:45 multiple cases through history has shown
01:01:48 uh it it do falls through it falls
01:01:52 through yeah um
01:01:55 in many countries they have the same
01:01:57 system but they’re further advanced in
01:02:01 the problems that
01:02:03 the the equivalent Social Security or
01:02:07 retirements give them almost absolutely
01:02:10 nothing right we’re very quickly getting
01:02:13 to that point even in the United States
01:02:16 yes I agree it’s getting we’re already
01:02:18 hey we’re already
01:02:20 there well it’s better in the USA than
01:02:23 it is in other countries that I I know
01:02:25 of but it’s getting bad so but let let’s
01:02:30 go back and read
01:02:32 some ma Matthew chapter 19 yeah yeah
01:02:35 let’s go back there um trying to
01:02:38 remember where we left off 22 left off
01:02:42 at 21 I
01:02:44 believe so yeah go be San if you want to
01:02:47 be
01:02:49 Sanctified uh go and sell your Surplus
01:02:53 and give it to the poor
01:02:56 right okay so 22 Josh you want to read
01:03:00 it sure okay but when the young man
01:03:04 heard that saying he went away
01:03:08 sorrowful or he had great possessions
01:03:12 now okay so I want to go look at uh
01:03:16 Torah and that division of Torah that
01:03:21 deals with this um cuz what happens when
01:03:26 someone has lots of possessions what do
01:03:28 they start
01:03:30 doing they start coveting he coveted his
01:03:34 own
01:03:35 possessions
01:03:37 yeah how messed up is that yeah he
01:03:41 wasn’t willing to give it up well the
01:03:43 whole thing is is that covetousness is a
01:03:46 very Insidious
01:03:49 sin yeah it’s uh a root for many sins
01:03:54 actually now one thing I will say no
01:03:57 mortal judge can judge you on this
01:04:01 commandment okay uh because you would
01:04:05 have to know their hearts and Men does
01:04:08 not know other people’s hearts men only
01:04:11 knows their actions correct in fact for
01:04:15 the most part I would say that your
01:04:19 average person doesn’t even know their
01:04:20 own
01:04:21 heart because they think they’re good
01:04:24 right right which goes against lots of
01:04:26 scriptures which I could show if we
01:04:28 wanted to Sidetrack we just the natural
01:04:31 man is an enemy to God yeah yeah and
01:04:34 that’s an example of that spr one oh
01:04:36 yeah yeah but I mean ones that actually
01:04:37 specific specifically State heart but
01:04:40 it’s the same teaching just different
01:04:42 imagery right right right right so the
01:04:45 yeah most most people don’t know their
01:04:48 own heart or their own
01:04:51 mind they’re not that aware of
01:04:53 themselves
01:04:56 they’re very one thing for sure they
01:04:59 most people don’t study torus so that
01:05:02 way they can discern right and wrong so
01:05:04 they don’t know what’s going on because
01:05:07 they don’t know what is right and wrong
01:05:08 right right when you live in a constant
01:05:10 state of confusion it’s very hard to
01:05:12 know your heart or your mind sure sure
01:05:16 um also I do think
01:05:19 considering that I now I know I’m
01:05:22 reading into this some but but that rich
01:05:26 man on the road was keeping the fifth
01:05:28 commandment so he was giving tithing the
01:05:31 portion or the type of tithing that was
01:05:33 for his parents and leaders in yahweh’s
01:05:37 church okay probably one of those Corbin
01:05:40 guys yeah yeah and maybe that’s maybe he
01:05:43 was a Corbin guy because he was not
01:05:45 doing it for his
01:05:48 neighbor um and which brings us back um
01:05:54 um to this part the last part of verse
01:05:56 19 Thou shalt love thy neighbor as
01:05:59 thyself showing that he was not doing
01:06:04 that no he he cared about himself way
01:06:09 more than his neighbor to the point he
01:06:13 wasn’t even willing to give up his any
01:06:15 of his Surplus to help his neighbor he
01:06:19 went away
01:06:21 sorrowful yeah so um that’s probably one
01:06:24 of the to me that’s one of the saddest
01:06:27 phrases in scripture yep
01:06:31 absolutely absolutely you know when when
01:06:34 when I when I read that
01:06:40 and it hits me every time
01:06:44 because when he walked away
01:06:47 sorrowful it’s because he knew at that
01:06:50 moment who he
01:06:53 was
01:06:54 it had been revealed to him by Yeshua
01:06:58 who he
01:06:59 was and he didn’t want to he wasn’t
01:07:01 willing to change so this could be
01:07:04 likened on a nashing and wailing of
01:07:06 teeth right here’s what’s here’s what’s
01:07:08 sad for me he was with
01:07:12 Yeshua but he went
01:07:15 away right he wouldn’t listen to him he
01:07:18 went away
01:07:20 sorrowful
01:07:22 yeah and that to me is the saddest part
01:07:26 of it he was with Yeshua in that
01:07:29 moment and he went away right but he
01:07:32 didn’t recognize who he was right we
01:07:36 talked I’m not saying that he did right
01:07:39 right I’m just saying you know how many
01:07:43 people turn their backs on turn their
01:07:45 backs on Torah not realizing that
01:07:47 they’re turning their backs on
01:07:50 Yeshua right right I I agree I agree
01:07:53 it’s the same
01:07:54 situation and they like many people in
01:07:58 the world today will actually hate
01:08:00 Yeshua and not recognize him because of
01:08:02 what he
01:08:03 teaches
01:08:07 yeah which goes
01:08:09 along sorry say that again because it’s
01:08:12 not mainstream right right and it goes
01:08:14 along with the saying that
01:08:16 recogniz yeah it goes along with the
01:08:19 saying that we will recognize him
01:08:20 because we will be like him right
01:08:26 because people want saviors who are like
01:08:30 themselves well yeah because they tell
01:08:33 them it’s okay uh was is it Helman five
01:08:36 or 13 or something that you like the
01:08:40 prophets because they tell you all is
01:08:42 well in Zion I mean I’m
01:08:45 paraphrasing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
01:08:47 yeah if one come among you yeah I know
01:08:50 what you’re I know what you’re referring
01:08:52 to yeah if one come among you saying
01:08:56 peace all is
01:08:57 well uh for your money you can be
01:09:00 forgiven of your sins him you will
01:09:02 accept and build
01:09:04 up right which um sounds a lot like a
01:09:08 lot of churches including the one I grew
01:09:10 up in the ldas brigite church because I
01:09:13 they’re loaded
01:09:16 it’s they so it is all of
01:09:20 Christianity teaches this Doctrine yeah
01:09:23 yeah yeah
01:09:24 um some are worse than others um but yes
01:09:28 you know and
01:09:30 and while I say all of Christianity I
01:09:32 would say I I will qualify that by
01:09:36 saying
01:09:41 that all the churches all the churches
01:09:45 well I I would put most but and on this
01:09:48 example that Ben bring up with the
01:09:50 churches they have the same problem uh
01:09:54 it is slightly different because the
01:09:56 preachers should not be getting paid
01:09:59 because that’s priestcraft that’s
01:10:01 another uh subject but they’re giving to
01:10:05 the
01:10:07 leaders uh tithing to the supposed
01:10:11 leaders that are practicing priestcraft
01:10:14 right right then they’re not actually
01:10:16 giving to the poor so there
01:10:20 most Christians and and Jews I will say
01:10:24 also cuz I know what they do are in the
01:10:26 exact same situation as this rich man on
01:10:29 the road and nor are they take and nor
01:10:32 are they taking care of their parents Mo
01:10:34 most
01:10:36 of put them in uh they put them in
01:10:39 nursing homes paid for by paid for by
01:10:42 their Medicaid they’re not really taking
01:10:45 care of their parents yeah yeah I agree
01:10:48 I I I I I take an educated guest I
01:10:51 wouldn’t say I wouldn’t say I wouldn’t
01:10:53 say most but a lot do yeah I I I would
01:10:56 say this young rich man was not doing
01:10:59 that um is my educated guess from the
01:11:02 text but I don’t know absolutely right
01:11:05 right well but I’m going that is a
01:11:09 modern-day problem I’m going back to I’m
01:11:11 going back to the idea of
01:11:13 Corbin uh sure sure right right right
01:11:18 because what you have in
01:11:20 modern uh
01:11:22 churchianity
01:11:25 is a whole lot of
01:11:28 Corbin yes and the same situation that’s
01:11:33 going on with this young rich man right
01:11:36 yep um so we could read the rest of this
01:11:39 because it gets into a few other things
01:11:41 or we could call this good I I’ll let um
01:11:44 Josh decide because he’s the one I think
01:11:47 I think it’s I think this is good it
01:11:50 gave me another way to look at this
01:11:53 particular
01:11:54 happening um in the in the New Testament
01:11:58 and you know open my eyes up to a few
01:12:00 more things and
01:12:01 just just how
01:12:04 personally Yeshua knows every single one
01:12:08 of us because how he talked to that rich
01:12:11 young
01:12:13 man he knew him oh yeah he knew him and
01:12:18 he knows
01:12:19 every single one of us the same way
01:12:24 and
01:12:25 um that that was what came to my
01:12:29 mind today as we were going through this
01:12:32 I mean the tithing points were very good
01:12:34 and and thank you Stephen and Ben for
01:12:38 for for taking the lead on that I
01:12:40 appreciate it um you’re welcome the
01:12:41 thing that really came to my mind is
01:12:45 how well he knows every single one of us
01:12:52 well and um amazing yeah he does and for
01:12:56 me and for me you know I had to deal
01:13:00 with a lot of the
01:13:03 misinterpretations of uh this
01:13:06 particular
01:13:08 experient
01:13:10 the biggest most prevalent
01:13:13 misinterpretation of
01:13:14 this is
01:13:18 that you know Yeshua tells the rich
01:13:21 young man to keep the Commandments
01:13:24 the rich young man says I’ve been
01:13:25 keeping the Commandments since I was
01:13:26 born and then Yeshua gives him a
01:13:29 personal
01:13:30 commandment yeah I I I growing up in the
01:13:33 LDS church uh that is a common one that
01:13:37 is stated and this is not what’s going
01:13:40 on here no it’s not um I I I think
01:13:45 though most
01:13:47 people are trying to understand it and
01:13:50 they’re doing their best of what they
01:13:52 think they know to understand it though
01:13:54 it’s very far off I can tell
01:13:58 you that at one point um
01:14:04 I I can’t remember when it was but it
01:14:06 was sometime last year but there in one
01:14:09 of our lessons we were going over this
01:14:11 story and when I started going into you
01:14:14 know what I had learned about this story
01:14:21 it yeah I got the uska look a lot from a
01:14:25 lot of people in that room and I was
01:14:28 just like no but he’s just telling him
01:14:30 that he’s the young man’s telling Jesus
01:14:34 Christ he’s living the Commandments and
01:14:35 Jesus Christ is telling him no you’re
01:14:37 not right right and that’s what’s going
01:14:39 on and hopefully you can show that even
01:14:41 better now right yeah no yeah yeah this
01:14:45 this thank you there’s multiple points
01:14:49 how it it’s he’s bringing out how this
01:14:51 man was not not keeping the
01:14:55 law um for one the perfect which is uh
01:15:00 means Sanctified which means keeping the
01:15:02 law in fact even in there it it kind of
01:15:05 brings out how keeping Torah will make
01:15:08 you perfect even in the context there
01:15:11 correct absolutely absolutely and
01:15:14 knowing how there’s the two divisions of
01:15:17 Torah and how
01:15:19 Yeshua did one out of order in
01:15:22 replacement of the other also helps kind
01:15:25 of bring things out of what’s going well
01:15:28 it
01:15:29 just it just goes to show that he was he
01:15:32 was highlighting hey I gave you these
01:15:34 Commandments for a reason right and it
01:15:36 wasn’t so you could twist them it was so
01:15:38 that you could keep them right right but
01:15:41 he knew which one he was not
01:15:43 keeping and he he shows that from the
01:15:47 very beginning in the way that
01:15:51 he personalized the message for him
01:15:54 right yeah right exactly in in a way
01:15:58 that
01:16:00 only could have gotten through to that
01:16:02 young man right
01:16:04 right and it did get through but he
01:16:08 turned his back on it right and walk and
01:16:12 went away
01:16:15 sorry yeah so one thing uh I I I had a
01:16:21 false interpretation before I
01:16:23 had understanding of Torah I thought he
01:16:26 was calling him to be an apostle there
01:16:30 um but it’s not for one he didn’t even
01:16:32 recognize who he was so I understand
01:16:35 it’s wrong now um but in the past I was
01:16:40 doing what other people doing trying to
01:16:42 make sense out of it with what I
01:16:46 had right which actually kind of ignores
01:16:49 some of it right because he wouldn’t be
01:16:52 calling someone apostle that who didn’t
01:16:54 believe he was Elohim so right exactly
01:16:58 well it ignores the most important
01:17:00 aspects of it yeah right right but now
01:17:02 that I am striving to keep Torah and I
01:17:06 do put good effort into that it’s just I
01:17:08 I get that phrase from Nephi Nephi says
01:17:10 he stroes to keep it right but anyways
01:17:14 um it makes a lot more sense
01:17:17 now right right there’s there’s no
01:17:20 little gotz that I we have to ignore
01:17:23 to make it
01:17:24 fit now all fits correct and it’s and
01:17:30 that’s why it is become one of my
01:17:31 favorite
01:17:33 happenings um you know from the from the
01:17:37 life of
01:17:39 Yeshua yeah well he was the great
01:17:44 teacher he was the greatest feacher
01:17:48 which is why the apostles chose what
01:17:51 which is why the disciples
01:17:53 who would become Apostles chose wisely
01:17:56 when they chose to become his tadim yeah
01:17:59 yep
01:18:00 yeah um and and on that issue I will say
01:18:04 picking a
01:18:07 teacher is a very important
01:18:10 decision yep and declaring yourself a
01:18:15 teacher is a very
01:18:18 important
01:18:20 step that needs careful consideration
01:18:25 yeah uh because in fact let me get this
01:18:28 up I was going to show earlier then we
01:18:30 got Sidetrack
01:18:33 but um so there’s a couple here maybe
01:18:38 this one Ben you want to read you’ll
01:18:40 probably like this jacob 22
01:18:44 yeah now my beloved Brethren I Jacob
01:18:47 according to the responsibility which I
01:18:49 am under to God to magnify my office
01:18:53 with soberness and that I might rid my
01:18:55 garments of your sins oh wait wait
01:18:58 that’s the part he Jacob’s a teacher and
01:19:01 he’s a leader so if he’s not doing
01:19:05 everything he can who’s he’s not only
01:19:09 sin SP he’s not only responsible for his
01:19:11 sins he’s responsible for the sins of
01:19:14 the nation well those who are underneath
01:19:17 him right right um now Jacob being the
01:19:21 top leader at that time it was Nation
01:19:25 but it depends on your um right depends
01:19:29 on the situation right talid the talid
01:19:32 is not only responsible for his own sins
01:19:34 he’s also responsible for the sins of
01:19:35 his tal yes and that’s what’s going on
01:19:39 here uh if you’re claiming you’re a
01:19:41 teacher and you’re not and you just say
01:19:45 things to make people feel warm and
01:19:47 fuzzy so that way they’ll come to you
01:19:48 and give you money guess what according
01:19:52 to that
01:19:53 you have their sins upon you and I can
01:19:56 show that in other places too but we’ll
01:19:58 yeah no no no yeah no I agree I come up
01:20:01 into the temple this day that I might
01:20:04 declare unto you the word of
01:20:06 God oh and so that is part of the way
01:20:10 that he’s cleansing his garments is
01:20:12 teaching what Yeshua actually we is yep
01:20:19 Tora yes yeah
01:20:24 and is eternal T is eternal law of Moses
01:20:27 is not that’s another subject but um
01:20:30 yeah yeah no it’s it’s it’s a it’s it’s
01:20:32 a subject that a lot of people get stuck
01:20:34 on uh yes it is a very sticky Point um
01:20:39 it’s the primary source of why people
01:20:41 call us doctrinal innovators you know
01:20:44 what you know what maybe we could uh
01:20:46 maybe we could uh spend some time on
01:20:48 that
01:20:50 next sure I’m happy to next I have lots
01:20:54 of notes um and I can share some new
01:20:57 ones that I haven’t shared yet even the
01:21:00 demarcation have a recording about some
01:21:03 of the issue um and I’ll put it in the
01:21:07 notes for those who want to watch it but
01:21:10 there’s more and at the same time we
01:21:14 didn’t go too deep because Ben didn’t
01:21:16 have tons of time and it was I think
01:21:18 that was our first meeting but anyways
01:21:20 yeah yeah happy to get into what other
01:21:24 depth that you want to so right well I
01:21:27 would like to get I would like to get
01:21:28 into that because I would like to be
01:21:31 able to speak more intelligently on on
01:21:34 that when people bring that
01:21:37 up uh you know quick summary for
01:21:42 you Torah is the ancient and eternal
01:21:46 Commandments that are it’s the oh let me
01:21:49 change my screen judgments and statutes
01:21:52 yes it’s the judgment and
01:21:54 statutes uh those are very key words um
01:21:57 which uh makes things clear as you look
01:21:59 in other places the law of Moses is the
01:22:02 performances and ordinances which is
01:22:05 points to primarily the two daily
01:22:09 Lambs given as a punishment as Paul
01:22:13 States it’s those performances and
01:22:16 ordinances which point to the sacrifice
01:22:19 of Yeshua hamashiach yes uh which Elma
01:22:23 34 brings out among others but Elma 34
01:22:26 is my favorite for
01:22:28 that that’s a but that’s a quick that’s
01:22:30 the quick rule of thumb guide um yeah
01:22:33 and then here’s Paul in Galatians 3
01:22:36 bringing out how it was a
01:22:38 punishment y so um because a lot of
01:22:44 people don’t know that the children of
01:22:47 Israel and the mixed
01:22:49 multitude got the Ten Commandments
01:22:52 before Moses mooses went up onto Mount
01:22:54 Si yes right it was verbal then and and
01:22:57 then Moses went up to get it written
01:23:00 which is an important thing um but then
01:23:03 when Moses came down they were breaking
01:23:06 what they already covenanted to keep so
01:23:09 uh mosiah 13 brings out they got it to
01:23:12 keep them in remembrance uh of how to
01:23:16 resolve their sins um and I think that’s
01:23:19 here but anyways I have a lot of
01:23:23 oh that’s so I probably don’t have the
01:23:26 13 anyways there there’s a lot of
01:23:29 scriptures on this um it is a confusing
01:23:33 uh subject for a lot of people and I can
01:23:35 understand why because of a lot of
01:23:37 traditions that are well and because in
01:23:40 our scriptures law of Moses and Torah
01:23:44 are sometimes used
01:23:47 interchangeably yeah and
01:23:50 um and so sometimes you do need context
01:23:54 right um now the of I’ve looked at it in
01:23:57 the
01:23:58 Hebrew um the of is not actually in
01:24:02 Hebrew that is
01:24:04 English additive right additive to try
01:24:07 to make it make sense I think a better
01:24:09 word is through than um but anyways
01:24:14 that’s a whole another
01:24:16 interesting all right well it’s about
01:24:20 one it’s almost one o’clock here and
01:24:22 okay
01:24:23 tired probably gonna wait it stop real
01:24:28 quick
01:24:29 sorry it stop real quick yeah yeah
01:24:33 I and as Jesus pass uh we’re gonna read
01:24:38 the story the
01:24:40 account uh of Jesus healing the blind
01:24:44 man um with uh making
01:24:51 mud uh
01:24:53 so here we go in chapter nine verse one
01:24:57 and as Jesus passed by he saw a man
01:25:00 which was blind from his birth and his
01:25:03 disciples asked him saying
01:25:05 master who did Sin this man or his
01:25:09 parents that he was born
01:25:12 blind now that’s an interesting question
01:25:14 that they’re posing there because your
01:25:19 eyes have to do with your desires
01:25:24 and so if there was a very it it’s very
01:25:28 ingrained in Hebrew belief that if you
01:25:30 were born
01:25:32 blind you are blind you had to have
01:25:36 sinned there there had to be a sin uh it
01:25:40 was his or his parents as what the
01:25:43 apostles are bringing out here right and
01:25:45 then also later in the um when the
01:25:50 healed man was taken to the Pharisees es
01:25:53 uh they brought up that same
01:25:56 idea later uh during that um court case
01:26:01 right correct so moving on to verse
01:26:06 three Jesus answered neither has hath
01:26:09 this man sinned nor his parents but that
01:26:12 the works of God should be made manifest
01:26:14 in him so go ahead uh so
01:26:21 with
01:26:25 ah the Lord is teaching something very
01:26:29 very
01:26:30 important
01:26:33 about the about kind of combating this
01:26:39 idea of somebody has had to have
01:26:44 sinned well we all sin we’re all human
01:26:47 we we are all natural men right but he’s
01:26:52 specifically addressing that no one’s
01:26:55 sin caused him to be blind right right I
01:26:59 I was getting to that sorry um uh so
01:27:03 so we’re
01:27:06 all but my point is is that we’re all
01:27:10 Sinners we are all blind to the works of
01:27:16 God due to our natural man now we all
01:27:20 have the Light of Christ I I totally get
01:27:22 that but the natural man can make us
01:27:27 blind I’m working off of a another level
01:27:30 of thought here right right uh basically
01:27:34 pointing out the spiritual aspect of
01:27:37 this as well as trying to tie it back
01:27:40 into the physical right right so in
01:27:42 support of that you have um
01:27:47 Samson yes uh in in the tanak uh it does
01:27:52 specifically State he became blind
01:27:54 because of his sins yes might I add
01:27:58 something else here yeah when he States
01:28:03 but that the works of God may be shown
01:28:06 forth in him or manifest manifest in him
01:28:10 same deal right um he’s
01:28:16 actually he’s actually telling
01:28:20 you about the means by which he’s going
01:28:23 to heal him
01:28:25 yeah and he’s also telling
01:28:28 you that uh the means by which he’s
01:28:32 going to heal him will show The Works of
01:28:37 God because the works of God aren’t just
01:28:39 about the healing
01:28:42 right the works of God are about the The
01:28:45 Works of God are about the repentance
01:28:47 and the change and the becoming
01:28:51 and
01:28:52 our eyes being opened as right um which
01:28:56 goes along with the next verse well well
01:28:59 and also I was thinking I think it’s
01:29:02 Abraham oh yeah it bring to pass the
01:29:04 immortality and eternal life etal life
01:29:06 of Moses 139 oh okay sorry um sorry I
01:29:12 don’t remember the place um no you’re
01:29:14 fine you’re fine that is embedded that
01:29:19 uh our repentance right in fact that
01:29:21 goes along with our purpose of life
01:29:23 which there’s tons of verses about we
01:29:27 are to repent and help other people to
01:29:29 do the same right the works of but that
01:29:32 the but that the works of God should be
01:29:35 made manifest notice he doesn’t say
01:29:39 through him there’s that common
01:29:42 misconception uh in the church that
01:29:45 we’re all just glass mirrors and we’re
01:29:48 you know supposed to be transporting the
01:29:50 light of God to all man
01:29:52 uh through ourselves through ourselves
01:29:55 you know people can just look into us
01:29:57 and or you know basically it’s you know
01:30:02 here we go light light people
01:30:05 light how they describe it very much
01:30:08 like that you know what I me sure sure
01:30:10 and that’s contrary to how it stated in
01:30:14 the sermon on Torah or more known Sermon
01:30:16 on the Mount right that Yeshua is the
01:30:20 light that we are to shine it’s him in
01:30:24 his ways and light is a idiom for Torah
01:30:30 right well interesting in the that in
01:30:34 the Hebrew
01:30:35 Matthew it doesn’t say ye are the light
01:30:40 it says ye are the
01:30:42 instruction ah okay and uh I’m fine I’m
01:30:46 happy with both because I know what
01:30:48 light is um yeah and go really saying
01:30:52 anything different it’s just saying it a
01:30:54 different way yeah yeah because another
01:30:57 word for Torah and a lot of um
01:31:03 messianics or Jews like to translate
01:31:06 Torah as instructions yeah so it it
01:31:11 points to the same
01:31:12 thing what one thing I do want to say
01:31:14 just real quick that’s a little
01:31:16 Sidetrack but along with you know who
01:31:19 sinned um so Nephi brings out in the
01:31:23 Book of Mormon that how our sins will
01:31:26 affect other people yes yeah and that
01:31:32 might had some part in it just I don’t
01:31:36 know in this case but another case as it
01:31:38 does um yeah but he Yeshua did
01:31:43 specifically State this didn’t happen
01:31:46 because his parents nor him sinned
01:31:50 right
01:31:52 I must work the works of him that sent
01:31:56 me while I am with
01:31:59 you the time cometh when I shall have
01:32:03 finished my work then I go unto the
01:32:07 father so we see
01:32:11 that talking about the question of the
01:32:15 disciples he’s answering the question of
01:32:16 the disciples who has
01:32:19 sinned neither this man nor his parents
01:32:27 because I need I must
01:32:31 do the works of him I must work the
01:32:35 works of him that sent me I must
01:32:39 do I must it’s it’s literally this I
01:32:44 shall finish my work that’s pointing to
01:32:46 the right there yeah and that’s also he
01:32:50 when Yeshua states on the cross I
01:32:52 finished my work he’s saying I finished
01:32:55 the atonement yes especially when you
01:32:58 take in account
01:33:01 um 2 Nephi 29 it states that yeshua’s
01:33:05 work is never finished and so it’s
01:33:07 talking about something specific in his
01:33:10 mortal Ministry which the main thing was
01:33:13 his
01:33:14 atonement right but the beautiful thing
01:33:18 is is we’re about to see the beautiful
01:33:23 imagery of his
01:33:26 atonement in the
01:33:29 cleansing correct
01:33:32 of in the in the cleansing and healing
01:33:35 so we’ll continue reading right and I
01:33:37 think also the reason he’s bringing up
01:33:39 is because he’s saying this is why it’s
01:33:42 possible Right what I’m about to do this
01:33:44 is why it’s possible right yes exactly
01:33:48 as long as I am in the world I am the
01:33:50 light of of the
01:33:53 world sees the perfect
01:33:56 personification of Ora as long as I am
01:34:01 in the world I am Torah yes all right I
01:34:05 I this is how it’s I am giving you a
01:34:08 perfect example of how to keep Torah
01:34:11 right right when he had thus spoken he
01:34:13 spat on the ground and made clay of the
01:34:16 spittle and he Anointed The Eyes of the
01:34:19 blind man with the clay now it’s
01:34:22 interesting he goes to the ground the
01:34:26 ground in Hebrew thought or Earth or
01:34:31 dirt is the domain of
01:34:36 sin it is the domain of the devil it is
01:34:39 sin right right and that’s why the
01:34:43 serpent AKA an idium for enemy yes uh is
01:34:49 devouring things or eats of the Dust
01:34:52 because that’s um where he has his
01:34:55 domain over and can get people is when
01:34:57 they’re sinning the dust his domain
01:35:00 yep and he Anno so he now he he spat on
01:35:06 the ground he’s made clay he’s made
01:35:12 that
01:35:14 he’s he’s made that which he
01:35:17 will um
01:35:20 heal from the domain of the Earth but
01:35:23 it’s not just straight
01:35:25 dirt it
01:35:28 is the water from his it is the water
01:35:31 from his mouth he is the Living
01:35:35 Water right right water has to do with
01:35:38 Revelation that’s his words which is
01:35:41 actually came out of his mouth
01:35:43 specifically yes right and he and he
01:35:47 made the clay he made the clay from the
01:35:50 living water which came from his mouth
01:35:54 his his uh he’s giving
01:35:59 Revelation the imagery is he is showing
01:36:03 this
01:36:04 man how to be free from the domain of
01:36:11 Satan correct and he said and said unto
01:36:15 him go wash in the pool of Shalom which
01:36:20 is by interpretation
01:36:24 sent and he went his way therefore and
01:36:28 washed and came
01:36:31 seeing the neighbors therefore and they
01:36:34 which I I think we got to talk about
01:36:35 that a little bit Yeah here he went
01:36:39 and immersed himself in yahweh’s
01:36:43 Revelations the waters yeah and it
01:36:46 washed away the sin such that he could
01:36:50 see now now I think it’s also
01:36:52 interesting he went under the
01:36:57 water and the sin died and the man of
01:37:00 sin
01:37:01 died and he came
01:37:04 up a new man who could right right this
01:37:07 uh image of washing can go to baptism as
01:37:11 been as bringing out right yeah um go
01:37:14 wash the pool of
01:37:16 Shalom and he became a new
01:37:20 man
01:37:22 which is by
01:37:23 interpretation
01:37:26 sent go
01:37:29 wash in the pool that I have sent you
01:37:33 right and he went his way therefore and
01:37:37 washed and came seeing so his sins were
01:37:42 cleansed from him which made it possible
01:37:45 for him to see see just as um Samson
01:37:51 it states in the Old Testament that his
01:37:54 sins took away his
01:37:57 sight
01:38:00 yes and his so oh this is such a
01:38:05 beautiful uh it’s beautiful imagery here
01:38:09 that we see but it’s not just imagery
01:38:12 he’s what Christ is doing is he’s
01:38:16 using the physical to
01:38:20 highlight to highlight the
01:38:23 imagery right to make it understandable
01:38:25 for the people that are watching him
01:38:29 perform the
01:38:33 miracle we
01:38:36 who before now had no
01:38:41 idea we just thought oh he just uh
01:38:45 picked up a bunch of mud rubbed it on
01:38:47 his eyes and said go
01:38:50 off
01:38:51 you’ll see
01:38:53 again anyway you
01:38:56 know to us before we were given the key
01:39:01 by Yahweh to understand
01:39:06 this and I say we Stephen yes you may
01:39:10 have been the mouthpiece for it well
01:39:13 that’s but Yahweh sent the key sure sure
01:39:17 sent the key so that’s why I say
01:39:21 You by
01:39:24 extension of you were an extension of
01:39:28 Yahweh uh sure sure uh I did help you
01:39:31 see it but you you but anyways but now
01:39:34 you’re helping others see it exactly and
01:39:38 yeah you’re right but the point is is
01:39:46 that what Yeshua did for thew Jewish
01:39:53 people every single instance he is
01:39:57 teaching them I am your Messiah I am
01:40:02 your
01:40:06 Messiah and they still did not use their
01:40:13 eyes to see except for those who had the
01:40:20 works of God
01:40:21 God manifest in them like this blind
01:40:27 man right he he believed yes so
01:40:32 although he had some
01:40:35 issues when he heard the
01:40:38 word and the
01:40:40 Commandment he did it yes he didn’t give
01:40:43 excuses say it’s not reent anymore
01:40:46 that’s silly and stupid and how in the
01:40:49 world is that going to work
01:40:53 he went
01:40:57 believing and it changed him it did
01:41:00 physically and then Also
01:41:03 spiritually um so I think Matt’s done so
01:41:08 if he is I want well I a funny thought
01:41:11 came to my mind okay it’s this the man
01:41:14 has been blind all of his life right and
01:41:18 this is just another this is kind of a
01:41:20 funny little
01:41:21 Gentile way of thinking about it right
01:41:24 the man’s been blind all of his life
01:41:27 right and so Jesus anoints his eyes with
01:41:31 mud and tells him to go wash in the pool
01:41:33 of
01:41:35 salom the Gentile would sit there and
01:41:38 say if he’s been spent all of his life
01:41:42 blind what else do I have to
01:41:47 lose
01:41:49 oh sure what why not right why
01:41:54 not well yeah I can see where they’re
01:41:58 coming up from them but if he didn’t do
01:42:00 it believing it would not have worked um
01:42:04 no it wouldn’t have but but my point and
01:42:08 my point is to highlight that fact sure
01:42:11 is to make sure
01:42:13 that the people guess the main part of
01:42:16 our audience is not Jewish they don’t
01:42:19 understand this so I’m highlighting the
01:42:21 point give me one sec I wasn’t give me
01:42:25 one second I was just trying to
01:42:26 highlight this point that he didn’t have
01:42:32 that mentality of well why not sure sure
01:42:36 right okay now you were going to say yes
01:42:40 I was um the
01:42:45 uh
01:42:48 Yeshua je Yeshua they have
01:42:52 covenanted with one PE with one with one
01:42:56 man through his seed
01:43:00 Abraham through his seed all the
01:43:03 kindreds of the Earth would be
01:43:06 blessed G while we
01:43:09 maintain and keep our Gentile way of
01:43:13 thinking our Gentile way of
01:43:17 doing we have no
01:43:21 Covenant with yeh that’s true we must
01:43:24 cross over we must think like this
01:43:29 man we must go
01:43:32 believing when Yeshua says
01:43:35 something when the when when it is
01:43:37 revealed in his word that something is
01:43:40 said we must do
01:43:44 it or we will be forever blind and like
01:43:48 the Gentiles have no promise no
01:43:54 Covenant yep yeah yep um as in Torah and
01:44:01 uh A7 reemphasizes from
01:44:05 Torah um it does matter the reasoning
01:44:08 why we do
01:44:10 things so the idea that a lot of people
01:44:13 push that it doesn’t matter why you do
01:44:16 it just do it is completely contrary to
01:44:20
01:44:21 right the reason you do it matters very
01:44:24 much absolutely I think we should
01:44:27 continue reading just a little bit well
01:44:30 um sure we can did you want to say
01:44:31 something else uh well mainly because
01:44:35 I’m seeing some important things in the
01:44:38 let’s continue then the neighbors
01:44:41 therefore and they which before had seen
01:44:44 him that he was blind said it’s not this
01:44:48 he that sat and begged
01:44:51 some said this is he others said he is
01:44:54 like him but he but he said I am he
01:44:59 therefore said they unto him how are
01:45:02 thine eyes opened and he answered and
01:45:05 said a man that is called Yeshua made
01:45:08 clay and anointed mine eyes and said
01:45:11 unto me go to the pool of Shalom and
01:45:14 wash and I went and washed and I
01:45:17 received sight and they said unto him
01:45:21 where is he and he said I know
01:45:25 not and they brought him who had uh been
01:45:30 blind to the
01:45:31 Pharisees and it was the Sabbath day
01:45:33 when Jesus made the clay and opened his
01:45:35 eyes so this actually kind of links into
01:45:39 a uh another
01:45:43 issue uh but there is
01:45:47 actual
01:45:49 import
01:45:52 to the fact that he was
01:45:55 blind you know that
01:45:57 that that
01:46:00 song Amazing
01:46:03 Grace is actually pretty powerful it’s
01:46:07 not completely 100%
01:46:12 correct but there
01:46:15 is there is power
01:46:19 to
01:46:21 um there is a there is power to the line
01:46:24 where uh it’s
01:46:28 stated I once was blind but now I see
01:46:31 it’s the final Stan It’s the final part
01:46:33 of the first
01:46:36 stanza um and
01:46:40 it’s but it’s once again highlighting
01:46:44 the
01:46:45 same idea uh it’s highlighting a similar
01:46:49 idea to this that is that
01:46:54 Yeshua has the
01:46:58 power to manifest his Works manifest his
01:47:03 miracles even for those who may whom it
01:47:07 may seem have been touched by sin and
01:47:11 are you know it may seem like they have
01:47:15 been touched by sin and are Beyond
01:47:18 Redemption and that he has power over
01:47:21 the domain of the earth to pull those
01:47:25 out of that out of the domain of sin so
01:47:30 um maybe uh this might be an okay time
01:47:33 to say this so the Pharisees and the
01:47:36 Sadducees were very concerned about this
01:47:40 event okay absolutely uh and the reason
01:47:44 is because they had Traditions which I
01:47:47 do think this one is a correct tradition
01:47:50 um because it is kind of brought out
01:47:52 here that the Messiah would heal someone
01:47:57 who was born
01:47:59 blind and here they
01:48:02 are trying to make it look like that’s
01:48:05 not what happened right because they’re
01:48:08 trying
01:48:10 to he keepeth not the Sabbath because he
01:48:12 worked right right well and this goes
01:48:15 off of another instance of their false
01:48:18 Traditions making Torah noan void that
01:48:21 they have yeah because Yeshua never
01:48:25 sinned uh he did go against the false
01:48:29 traditions of men and I will add at
01:48:33 times blatantly to throw it into their
01:48:36 face yeah he he was not always easy
01:48:40 peasy about it he it he did things to
01:48:43 put in their face actually um but a big
01:48:48 part of why they were so scared to this
01:48:50 and trying to put it down so much was
01:48:54 their Traditions that the Messiah would
01:48:58 heal someone who’s born blind and later
01:49:02 in the account I don’t remember the
01:49:04 verse but the man that is healed does
01:49:07 specifically bring out how no one else
01:49:10 has ever done that as in to somewhat to
01:49:14 give Credence to the the idea that it’s
01:49:17 only the Messiah who could he someone
01:49:20 that’s blind that was born blind MH yeah
01:49:25 uh there’s
01:49:28 actually um people who have become and
01:49:32 people have become blind as a result of
01:49:34 trauma can be that can it can be
01:49:38 reversed but um yeah with modern
01:49:42 medicine there some there are some cases
01:49:44 where fixes it and and not just modern
01:49:48 medicine also modern alt medicine
01:49:50 chiropractors have healed blind people
01:49:53 heal death
01:49:54 people
01:49:56 okay
01:49:57 um so did you want to read a little more
01:50:00 Matt or should I bring up another
01:50:01 thought go ahead and bring up that
01:50:03 thought okay because basically you’ve
01:50:06 basically covered the rest
01:50:09 of you’ve basically covered the rest of
01:50:11 the
01:50:12 experience uh sure um I mean highlights
01:50:16 of it anyways yeah right right um but
01:50:20 but um so there’s another thing that I
01:50:22 think is important to bring
01:50:25 out so in the scriptures there’s a thing
01:50:28 called
01:50:29 justification and
01:50:31 sanctification uh another way of saying
01:50:34 that is baptism of the fire and then
01:50:38 baptism of the holy spirit so uh the
01:50:42 baptism of Fire or
01:50:45 the uh or justification is when yeshua’s
01:50:50 has found you with a broken heart and
01:50:52 contrite spirit and he then thus makes
01:50:55 it
01:50:57 easier
01:50:58 to keep his ways because although before
01:51:02 you get baptized by water you promise to
01:51:07 do that it will take some time for you
01:51:10 to completely honor that
01:51:16 promise because we have to unlearn
01:51:19 things so that we can learn the truth
01:51:21 but um and then
01:51:24 later with your own works you by keeping
01:51:29 Torah uh uh you doing it yourself you
01:51:33 then become Sanctified through the grace
01:51:36 of the Messiah and why do you become
01:51:38 Sanctified through the grace of the
01:51:40 Messiah by keeping
01:51:42 Torah because you have proven that you
01:51:45 love him
01:51:48 yes love me keep my Commandments that is
01:51:52 the why that’s the only acceptable
01:51:58 why is because you love
01:52:00 him
01:52:02 yeah uh and others but primarily him um
01:52:07 so what I see here though is that
01:52:11 Yeshua um started the process where that
01:52:17 um spit is weakening the dust okay it’s
01:52:23 not hard and crust like a hard heart it
01:52:27 is now
01:52:28 softening it also has to do with his
01:52:31 word now is starting to enter into you
01:52:35 okay and
01:52:37 then this blind
01:52:40 man kept the Commandment that he was
01:52:43 told to go do which is representative of
01:52:46 keeping the
01:52:48 Commandments and then and he could fully
01:52:52 see because he got
01:52:56 Sanctified his desires became one and
01:52:59 the eyes equaling desire his desires
01:53:03 became one with Yeshua correct and then
01:53:07 he could fully see because of that and
01:53:12 so here’s an example
01:53:15 of justification or baptism of fire and
01:53:19 sanctification or baptism of the Holy
01:53:22 Spirit where
01:53:24 Yeshua did the baptism of fire the blind
01:53:30 man did works such that he could be
01:53:34 Sanctified through the
01:53:36 Messiah right and that which brings us
01:53:40 back to which brings me which always
01:53:42 brings back to my mind my favorite verse
01:53:46 I think you know what it is yeah 88 um
01:53:49 show it somewhere
01:53:51 else yeah so let me go get
01:54:02 it because it tells us how it is that we
01:54:06 are Sanctified there you
01:54:09 go okay sorry verse 34 again verily I
01:54:13 say unto you that which is governed by
01:54:17 law by Torah is also preserved
01:54:22 justified by by law or Torah
01:54:26 perfected and Sanctified by the
01:54:32 same which is law or Torah and you the
01:54:36 wonderful thing about this verse is that
01:54:38 it combines all those verses which say
01:54:43 that Yeshua
01:54:45 sanctifies with the
01:54:48 Commandment to sanctify
01:54:52 yourselves because Yeshua is the way
01:54:55 Yeshua is the
01:54:57 law Yeshua is
01:55:01 Torah yeah he is the living Torah he is
01:55:05 the living Torah yes and
01:55:10 so I love that verse it it just
01:55:14 encapsulates
01:55:16 everything that is good
01:55:20 it it encapsulates the entire process
01:55:23 which is highlighted beautifully in the
01:55:25 healing of the blind
01:55:29 man that which
01:55:39 breakthe perfected even Sanctified so I
01:55:44 I know we talked about some of this
01:55:46 earlier today but here is a verse in the
01:55:50 DNC that is
01:55:53 equating perfect Perfection with
01:55:57 sanctification just like there are
01:55:59 verses in the Doctrine and Covenants
01:56:01 which
01:56:03 equate the Holy Ghost with Torah yes and
01:56:10 it’s throughout the scriptures I do
01:56:13 understand it goes against the grain of
01:56:16 what almost everybody says but it is
01:56:20 there y that which breakthe and abideth
01:56:25 not by law but seeketh to become a law
01:56:28 unto itself that which thinks like a
01:56:30 freaking
01:56:34 Gentile and acts like a freaking Gentile
01:56:38 and willth to abide in sin and
01:56:40 altogether abideth in sin cannot be
01:56:43 Sanctified by law neither by Mercy
01:56:46 Justice nor judgment therefore they must
01:56:49 remain filthy
01:56:52 still they are outside of the
01:56:54 Covenant and
01:56:58 uncovered the mud
01:57:03 remains
01:57:12 yep um an interesting little tidbit to
01:57:15 go along with this DN c76 about the glor
01:57:19 stories
01:57:21 of uh the yeshua’s Kingdom
01:57:24 right uh is the those who
01:57:29 receive Celestial Glory are
01:57:32 Sanctified now going back to this when
01:57:37 he went and baptized right he he washed
01:57:43 baptized um and then got
01:57:47 Sanctified it is only
01:57:50 those who receive the celestial glory
01:57:52 and are Sanctified that are required to
01:57:55 be baptism by water to be in the
01:57:58 kingdom turral and testeral people don’t
01:58:04 need to be baptized by
01:58:06 water
01:58:07 yep according to DNC 76 which I do
01:58:11 believe all they have all you have to do
01:58:13 to be telestial is acknowledge your lord
01:58:16 and
01:58:17 savior yep
01:58:21 Y and you can and you can be a and you
01:58:25 can be a liar in the Celestial
01:58:29 Kingdom
01:58:31 wellory i i
01:58:33 i they could have been a liar
01:58:36 immortality right um that’s a little
01:58:39 harsh sorry uh now I don’t think
01:58:43 there’ll be Liars up there um so it’s
01:58:46 kind of a technicality which I think is
01:58:48 along the line what you actually meant
01:58:50 but anyway
01:58:53 yeah yeah that’s yeah I I acknowledge
01:58:57 that I was a little a little
01:58:59 overreaching a little harsh a little uh
01:59:01 probably a little um hyperbolic in my
01:59:05 use of language uh but yeah the point
01:59:13 is to acknowledge your lord and
01:59:17 savior to acknowledge Yeshua as your
01:59:20 lord and savior and not to keep his
01:59:26 laws is at the very
01:59:34 least rude and
01:59:37 presumptuous and you are
01:59:41 um you are acting like you are entitled
01:59:44 to his
01:59:46 grace and and so since binb bringing
01:59:49 this up uh Grace I I will add Mercy goes
01:59:54 with
01:59:56 justification Grace goes with
01:59:58 sanctification so yeah you’re acting
02:00:01 like you’re acting like you’re entitled
02:00:03 to his grace but what
02:00:05 you’re all that your all that your lips
02:00:08 all that your lip submission will earn
02:00:10 you
02:00:12 is a degree of
02:00:15 Mercy right if it’s sincere which he
02:00:18 will know
02:00:20 himself um
02:00:23 yeah while Mercy is the beginning of
02:00:26 Grace it is not the abundance of Grace
02:00:30 that’s correct it is it’s just like the
02:00:35 first step AKA justification right
02:00:43 yeah uh so I I think unless you have
02:00:45 something else to say that’s probably a
02:00:47 good time to no I’m I’m actually very
02:00:50 satisfied
02:00:52 uh I I I myself have been
02:00:57 fed I hope that I brought something to
02:00:59 feed other people and I’m very tired
02:01:03 actually okay so I’m going to
02:01:07 pause