Scripture Study 2024-03-17

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Talked about son of Joseph of Egypt not Smith. President of the church by common consent. Prophet is calling by YHWH. Scriptures on VOTING. Restoration is going back to how it was before, namely Torah. Acts 15 apostles did not make the decision for the church, the head bishop did. D&C 88 contradicts D&C 77. Mortal men will be the Mighty and Strong One and his helpers. Men is appointed to die once. Resurrected and translated men can’t die. Samuel and Joseph Smith are Elijah / Messengers. The pattern of three prophets. Joseph Smith name will be had for good and evil. Samuel and Joseph Smith have a similar promise. Restoration churches reject what the Book of Mormon teaches. They don’t even do sacrament according to what the Book of Mormon says. Brigham Young followed king Noah. Zeniff is a type for Joseph Smith. Both Zeniff and Joseph Smith over zealous. Elohim calls prophets with failing. Holy prophets don’t hide their sins. D&C 121 states good bye to their priesthood of those who try to hide their sins. Don’t follow your desperately wicked heart. Satan uses your sins over you as his human followers do. Yeshua’s atonement makes it so no can hold your past sins against you. It’s a lie to preach you never sinned, it is also a lie to think you can’t keep the commandments. Samuel son’s are like the two major restoration churches. RLDS / CoC sold artifacts to support their retirement funds. LDS has a history modifying documents. LDS robs the poor with their tithing. The interview at judgement day as talked about in the LDS / Brighamite church. Judgements done at public gates in connection to where Yeshua will do it. Judges are used when the two parties don’t agree. Capital judgements. Eye for eye and tooth for a tooth is just judgement for the crime. No prison in YHWH’s system, we are simply paying off a debt. Symbolic meaning of eye, tooth. Master gives substance at release so people don’t get into poverty again. 7 years, and it’s symbolism. Torah solves the real problem. Better translation of ‘but’ is ‘and’ in Matthew 5:39. Help the poor not loving your substance. Petitioning Yeshua for salvation. The reason people don’t see Torah in the Book of Mormon is because they don’t know Torah. Problems with the documentary theory. Deuteronomy 30 states Torah is eternal. Tithing is off of surplus. It’s not our place to judge if they are worthy of the offering, it’s our place to judge if we can afford it. Depart from Me you workers of lawlessness. Higher and Lower law is not in the scriptures, but it is a principle of the occult.

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00:00:02 so uh the first thing we want to talk
00:00:04 about today is the son of Joseph
00:00:08 so this has caused various issues in the
00:00:13 restoration now I do believe that Joseph
00:00:17 Smith and hyram talked about how the son
00:00:21 of Joseph will be the next Prophet okay
00:00:26 now there is a difference between
00:00:28 prophet and church leader
00:00:30 okay a church leader or the president is
00:00:34 done by Common
00:00:37 consent a prophet is a calling from
00:00:40 Yahweh not men
00:00:43 okay now in Joseph Smith
00:00:46 day uh he was the president of the
00:00:50 church because of common consent he did
00:00:54 not want to be
00:00:55 president because he wanted to do other
00:00:57 things but because of the law of common
00:01:00 consent he did do it yeah go ahead Ben
00:01:04 so a lot of these people who like to
00:01:07 site these quotes from Brigham Young Who
00:01:09 said that the people have called him a
00:01:12 prophet that calling is invalid because
00:01:14 it came from the people it didn’t come
00:01:17 from from y Elohim and his doctrines are
00:01:21 not the doctrines of Y
00:01:23 Elohim that is very very very true um he
00:01:29 his doctrine’s cont contct The Book of
00:01:30 Mormon and for the most part the LDS
00:01:34 bite Church tries to hide those
00:01:37 doctrines uh because they know they’re
00:01:39 embarrassing so
00:01:42 um the the fundies do like to bring
00:01:47 those quotes up from Brigham Young and
00:01:49 try to push them as like you should
00:01:51 believe this um but all all that stuff
00:01:54 contradicts the scriptures especially
00:01:57 the Book of Mormon but anyways but on
00:02:00 Brigham Young um part of the reason that
00:02:03 I do believe that ham and Joseph Smith
00:02:06 did talk about how the son of
00:02:08 Joseph will be the next Prophet because
00:02:13 there’s multiple groups including
00:02:15 Brigham Young acknowledged it
00:02:19 right um I would say they didn’t
00:02:23 understand
00:02:25 it uh I I don’t know why been am I do I
00:02:29 got something there sorry no I’m no I’m
00:02:33 I’m trying to get my own mustaches out
00:02:34 of my mouth oh okay so so it wasn’t a
00:02:37 signal to me okay um no it wasn’t so I
00:02:41 do believe that hyam and Joseph Smith
00:02:46 talked and gave sermons about how the
00:02:49 son of Joseph will be the next Prophet
00:02:51 now there is some
00:02:54 confusion uh that the president of the
00:02:57 church needs to be the prophet
00:03:00 okay that is not the
00:03:02 case as um Joseph did not want to be the
00:03:07 president but he did it because of the
00:03:09 common consent and that’s what the
00:03:11 people wanted so he
00:03:13 consented um but in second Nephi
00:03:18 3
00:03:21 um I have a kism on this I’ve never I
00:03:25 I’m not addicted to KMS well actually I
00:03:27 I am but that’s a good thing to be
00:03:29 addicted too in my opinion they bring
00:03:31 out additional Doctrine but
00:03:34 there is a
00:03:46 phras you can see how well I’m prepared
00:03:48 for these things right
00:03:51 um uh there we
00:03:55 go um okay so this is Lehi speaking let
00:03:58 me keep going
00:04:02 [Music]
00:04:04 so this is Joseph of Egypt here
00:04:08 okay we’re truly test SE raise up this
00:04:13 is a son of Joseph here let’s see if we
00:04:16 can find a better
00:04:18 one uh it’s more in the
00:04:22 center and th prophesied Joseph saying
00:04:25 behold that se will Yahweh bless it that
00:04:30 seeketh to destroy him shall be
00:04:33 confounded so this goes along with
00:04:35 Revelations 11 for This Promise which I
00:04:38 have obtained of Yahweh the fruit of my
00:04:41 loins so Joseph of Egypt’s loins fruit
00:04:46 of his Joseph of Egypt’s loins will be
00:04:49 the mighty and strong one not Joseph’s
00:04:52 loins okay right now um that is the guy
00:04:57 that I believe and it’s actually the
00:05:01 only thing that makes sense to me
00:05:03 because Prophet comes from
00:05:07 Yahweh president is done by Common
00:05:11 consent of the
00:05:14 members so and I believe that right ham
00:05:19 and Joseph and maybe others preach
00:05:22 things that how this son of Joseph will
00:05:24 be the next Prophet now people
00:05:27 misunderstood that and took it that the
00:05:29 son of Joseph as in Joseph Smith’s son
00:05:32 will be the next
00:05:34 president because that’s even what briam
00:05:37 Young talked about right he was just a
00:05:40 custodian until Joseph’s son Joseph or
00:05:44 Joseph Smith’s son Joseph was old enough
00:05:46 to take charge of the church he used to
00:05:49 say that at the
00:05:50 beginning um now I do there was never a
00:05:54 letter okay um I believe the our LDS
00:06:00 church made up the idea of the letter
00:06:02 and they actually have admitted somewhat
00:06:04 recently that there is no letter that
00:06:07 Joseph Smith wrote saying that his son
00:06:09 will be the next
00:06:11 president um because for one that’s done
00:06:14 by Common consent I tend to believe the
00:06:18 reason why they said that there was a
00:06:20 letter because of the James string has a
00:06:26 a fraudulent letter saying that Joseph
00:06:28 Smith I
00:06:30 wrote that James strange was going to be
00:06:34 the next president and so I think the
00:06:39 rlds uh had to one up that saying no
00:06:43 there’s a letter that Joseph Smith wrote
00:06:45 that his son Joseph will be the next
00:06:48 Prophet or president because there’s the
00:06:51 mixture in people’s
00:06:53 minds go
00:06:55 ahead right but with regards to those
00:06:59 letters
00:07:02 a
00:07:04 letter was never by any
00:07:08 stretch the means whereby power is
00:07:11 passed
00:07:12 down from
00:07:14 heaven
00:07:16 and not even for being a president of
00:07:19 the church because being president of
00:07:21 the church is done by Common
00:07:23 consent and becoming a prophet
00:07:28 happens through y through your voice as
00:07:33 opposed to um any interpolation of
00:07:39 men
00:07:41 so there these letters are regardless of
00:07:45 whether they you actually have a copy or
00:07:48 not they’re all bogus and they’re all
00:07:51 bogus claims to
00:07:53 Authority right
00:07:56 um because like we mentioned
00:08:00 president of the church is done by
00:08:01 Common consent of the members which is
00:08:04 voting let me say that again voting is
00:08:08 in your hand saying yes yeah yeah yes we
00:08:12 sustain that well here let let’s just uh
00:08:16 change the screen real quick let me push
00:08:19 the right buttons even though I don’t
00:08:21 like when people push my buttons sorry
00:08:23 guys just had to
00:08:26 throw uh vote
00:08:30 so oh look here’s a section in DC that
00:08:33 actually says
00:08:34 vote oh look another in that same
00:08:37 section vote and oh wait dang it vote
00:08:40 again ah and this is DNC 20 man oh so
00:08:44 it’s not just mechanically raising your
00:08:47 hand to say
00:08:49 yes yeah already made the decision and
00:08:51 I’m just gonna say and I’m just gonna be
00:08:53 a yep yes man yep yep yeah yeah so in
00:08:56 the DNC even in the brigite Edition the
00:08:59 there is no sections that talks about
00:09:01 sustaining the president of the
00:09:04 church the only place that sustainings
00:09:07 talked about is about the um civil
00:09:11 government not the church government and
00:09:15 if you want to talk about um if you want
00:09:18 to talk about ongoing restoration the
00:09:20 restor a restor let me remind you what
00:09:23 the definition of restoration
00:09:25 is so we go to the 1828 yes let yeah
00:09:29 actually let’s show what the definition
00:09:32 of restoration is so the people don’t so
00:09:35 people don’t get into their heads that
00:09:37 I’m making this crap up the facts of the
00:09:39 matter are I’m not making it up it is
00:09:42 the actual definition of
00:09:45 restoration and we’re going to go there
00:09:47 and
00:09:48 see the act of replacing in a former
00:09:53 State I.E you’re taking something that
00:09:56 already existed and renewing it too
00:09:59 renewal Revival reestablishment you
00:10:02 can’t reestablish what has never been
00:10:05 established what I I I’m having so all
00:10:10 these people so all these people who say
00:10:13 that rejecting the doctrines of Brigham
00:10:15 Young because they’re not in the
00:10:16 scriptures that all these people who say
00:10:18 that you’re rejecting the restoration
00:10:20 for that is uh they they don’t know what
00:10:23 the def they they don’t have a
00:10:26 definition of restoration that they can
00:10:28 actually go with
00:10:30 to actually say that somebody that to
00:10:33 say that people who are trying to go
00:10:35 back to Torah are rejecting the
00:10:38 restoration uh well um we can show but
00:10:41 Elma 12 actually shows that that is what
00:10:45 supposed to be going to and so does by
00:10:47 that very definition of what you just
00:10:49 said
00:10:51 Ben aren’t those of us that are trying
00:10:54 to live Torah actually living the
00:10:58 restoration
00:11:00 yeah exactly that’s that’s the point I’m
00:11:02 trying to make is that those who are
00:11:04 going back to Torah are actually living
00:11:06 the restoration if you are going back to
00:11:08 Torah and you’re accepting scripture and
00:11:10 you’re accepting the mind and will of
00:11:12 God as it’s given um as it is given then
00:11:16 you are in the
00:11:18 restoration so not accepting Torah if
00:11:23 you are not on the basis of foundation
00:11:25 you are not you are not in the spirit of
00:11:28 restoration
00:11:30 correct so we Ben and I have a recording
00:11:33 where we go over tons of verses after
00:11:35 yes’s death and resurrection that shows
00:11:39 that Torah is still
00:11:42 valid on top of that stretched the
00:11:46 surface a couple of times during a
00:11:48 couple different meetings but yeah sure
00:11:49 sure sure and I’ll put the uh a link to
00:11:52 that recording in the notes so people
00:11:55 can review that on top of that we have
00:11:58 another another one that goes off of how
00:12:01 the mighty and strong one will restore
00:12:03 Torah going over Elma 12 and Jacob
00:12:08 5 um and there’re uh I always get 8 DNC
00:12:13 84 and 88 mixed up we could uh I I
00:12:17 actually I know how to find it um
00:12:19 because of my copy paste
00:12:23 page yeah well anyways talking about 88
00:12:26 are you talking about 88 34 um
00:12:30 probably yeah yeah uh yeah this one so
00:12:34 um oh 8457 yes yeah you want to read it
00:12:38 sure and they shall remain under this
00:12:41 condemnation that’s everybody who this
00:12:43 that is the entire restoration shall
00:12:45 remain under the condemnation that the
00:12:47 original Church fell under until they
00:12:49 repent and remember the new the renewed
00:12:52 Covenant even the Book of Mormon and the
00:12:54 former Commandments Torah and we know
00:12:56 it’s Torah and not the former
00:12:58 Revelations which were received before
00:13:00 this because of what’s coming up which I
00:13:03 God have given them not only to say but
00:13:06 to do according to that which I have
00:13:08 written not which a scribe has written
00:13:11 which I have written yeah so uh we can
00:13:15 go look at verses but there’s tons of
00:13:18 verses in the Old Testament that states
00:13:21 that Yahweh wrote The 10 divisions of
00:13:24 Torah with his
00:13:27 finger yep and on top of that uh in my
00:13:31 La Moses uh code I mean um sorry uh post
00:13:37 uh I bring out
00:13:39 why uh the Torah is called the New
00:13:43 Covenant it’s because of what happened
00:13:45 at Exodus um I
00:13:49 mean yeah Exodus 34 if I remembering my
00:13:53 um off top of my memory um but I’ll put
00:13:57 law Moses page on the notes and um you
00:14:02 can see how uh in Exodus 34 why Torah
00:14:09 the Eternal law is called the new
00:14:12 law and there’s other verses there also
00:14:16 from Old Testament New Testament and
00:14:19 Book of Mormon and jsts that confirm
00:14:22 that
00:14:24 okay um
00:14:27 so yeah and so if we’re done with this
00:14:30 little Sidetrack I I just want to just
00:14:32 kind of
00:14:33 say
00:14:35 that when Joseph Smith he may have and
00:14:39 hyam I’m guessing those two because I
00:14:41 wasn’t there so I don’t know for sure
00:14:42 but I do believe this was taught but not
00:14:45 understood and they probably only said
00:14:48 Son of Joseph will be the next
00:14:51 Prophet which people took as the next
00:14:53 president because of the dis because of
00:14:57 the false idea that a Prophet has to be
00:15:00 the president and that’s not the case
00:15:02 Okay correct correct
00:15:05 there is an
00:15:08 office a prophet is a calling and there
00:15:11 were also false ideas prevalent that the
00:15:14 apostles were the head of the early
00:15:16 Christian Church they were not and it’s
00:15:18 fairly well documented that they were
00:15:20 not oh yeah yeah you can just look at
00:15:22 the back book of Acts to see that
00:15:25 especially my favorite one’s acts 15 but
00:15:28 um
00:15:29 right right but there’s others that’s
00:15:31 just one I know off top of my head right
00:15:33 yeah where Peter actually defers to
00:15:35 James the brother of Jesus who is the
00:15:38 bishop of
00:15:40 Jerusalem to uh to uh make a Jud
00:15:45 decision to make the decision regarding
00:15:47 members of the church right because uh
00:15:51 the apostles only have authority in the
00:15:54 unorganized
00:15:56 Stakes correct once they’ve been
00:15:59 organized they have no more Authority
00:16:01 and they have to move on because their
00:16:02 job is to build the church not run the
00:16:07 church there’s a big difference there
00:16:09 you go their job is to witness their job
00:16:14 is to
00:16:16 witness yeah to to the world not the
00:16:19 church yes correct to the world uhuh um
00:16:24 there to witness or to help people to
00:16:27 wake up
00:16:30 right so I I do believe that Joseph and
00:16:34 H and probably others taught that the
00:16:36 son of Joseph will be the next Prophet
00:16:39 people misunderstood that to be the next
00:16:41 president and they probably because they
00:16:46 did not clarify son of Joseph of
00:16:49 Egypt right as talked about in second
00:16:52 Nei 3 and jst
00:16:56 50 uh or Genesis 50
00:17:00 uh I have a post on that too I and I
00:17:04 even made it to kais because I am
00:17:05 addicted you never say that Stephen you
00:17:07 never say that Stephen yeah yeah uh that
00:17:10 I have a post on that I also say that I
00:17:14 have post that I need to finish on that
00:17:15 too but anyways um but this is the
00:17:20 mighty strong one I see more KMS oh yeah
00:17:23 yeah I I I told you I’m addicted to them
00:17:27 um so I’ve done a couple with Ben but
00:17:31 anyways um it was the son of Joseph and
00:17:35 I’m guessing that Joseph and hyam and
00:17:38 maybe others didn’t clarify of Egypt and
00:17:42 so people who were not as studied in the
00:17:44 scriptures and all the coming prophecies
00:17:47 and what line the mighty and strong one
00:17:50 is they misunderstood
00:17:54 it right yeah I’m sure that’s and for
00:17:59 those who uh and for those who
00:18:03 unfortunately believe the uh explanatory
00:18:07 sections in the Doctrine and
00:18:10 Covenants um well I feel sorry for you
00:18:14 because number one a person in the in of
00:18:18 in israelitish in in israelitish descent
00:18:21 you can only be descendant of one house
00:18:23 you cannot be descendant of both Ephraim
00:18:26 and Judah so he’s talking about Dean C
00:18:29 77 um in this specific case I mean
00:18:32 there’s other ones too um you cannot be
00:18:35 descended of eph from and Judah you have
00:18:38 to be descended of one or the other and
00:18:41 the line is traced
00:18:44 patrilineally right and um uh if I’m
00:18:48 trying to remember uh let me go look at
00:18:51 my notes um but uh there’s an authentic
00:18:58 section DNC 88 actually contradicts DNC
00:19:05 77 because it talks about the horns the
00:19:08 the seven trumpets and it contradicts
00:19:11 the way that DNC 77 talks about those
00:19:14 trumpets
00:19:16 so and there’s there’s actually another
00:19:19 section that talks about there’s
00:19:20 actually another question and answer
00:19:22 section that actually talks about the
00:19:24 mighty and strong one um and uh saying
00:19:28 that he’s descended of uh ephra that’s
00:19:31 not in 77 that 77 is about
00:19:34 Revelation oh I I know which one you’re
00:19:37 talking about uh we could probably find
00:19:40 it but I’m search one of these ones I
00:19:42 just don’t remember which one yeah it
00:19:45 says he’s a combo of um Judah and
00:19:48 Ephraim right it says he’s a combo of
00:19:50 Judah and Ephraim which is just not uh
00:19:52 biblically which is just not biblically
00:19:55 inter prophetically it’s not allowed
00:19:58 correct you’re um you get your tribe
00:20:00 from your father not your mother uh and
00:20:03 right you only have one father sorry
00:20:06 people just hopefully we don’t have to
00:20:10 talk you can’t have two fathers well you
00:20:13 can have two uh adopted fathers you
00:20:17 can’t have two biological fathers so
00:20:19 let’s
00:20:20 get very true yeah so and your and your
00:20:24 feelings about your biological father
00:20:26 don’t matter to biology
00:20:31 yes um anyways so you came from who you
00:20:34 came from yes yeah yeah you’re whether
00:20:38 you like him or not the sperm that
00:20:40 created you only came from one guy
00:20:45 sorry well that’s the seed right so
00:20:49 anyways it is it is the seed yes yeah
00:20:52 just just it does get planted and it
00:20:54 does get planted yeah just like you can
00:20:57 only really have one father either
00:20:59 Yahweh or Satan you can’t have two
00:21:02 because you’ll love the one and hate the
00:21:04 other serve God and Mammon yeah um so so
00:21:08 the so what we’re so what the
00:21:12 prophecies what Genesis chapter 50 veres
00:21:15 24 through 38 and also uh SEC second
00:21:18 Nephi chapter 3 point out is that the
00:21:21 mighty and strong one will be a
00:21:23 descendant of Joseph in Egypt yes not
00:21:28 Joseph
00:21:29 Smith not Joseph not Joseph Smith who
00:21:32 completed his work and outside of
00:21:36 helping to call
00:21:38 another right right which it will be
00:21:42 like how Peter James and John gave
00:21:45 Joseph and uh Oliver calry hopefully I’m
00:21:49 remembering that right Oliver C you
00:21:50 remember correctly yeah okay the the
00:21:53 calling to apostil ship okay right and
00:21:58 how John the Baptist gave Joseph Smith
00:22:02 the ironic priesthood so anyways
00:22:07 um the it is Mortal men that have the
00:22:10 major callings in this earth that needs
00:22:13 to happen not not resurrected or
00:22:17 translated men in fact because their
00:22:20 missions are already complete correct
00:22:22 truth and the truth
00:22:25 is that because man was born wants to
00:22:32 die the
00:22:35 atonement that’s what that’s what this
00:22:39 is what Paul used to verify the
00:22:41 necessity of the atonement the fact that
00:22:43 man is born once to die
00:22:48 right just like Yeshua died once he’s
00:22:53 Paul’s connecting those things together
00:22:55 so
00:22:56 anyway well because yeah he’s our
00:22:59 Exemplar and everything right so
00:23:02 everything that he did he didn’t die
00:23:04 multiple
00:23:06 times he died once
00:23:10 right so I want to point out to
00:23:12 everybody who’s uh to people who were
00:23:15 saying that
00:23:17 um uh that Seth and uh melchisedec are
00:23:27 pre-incarnate need to
00:23:29 repent yeah we could look repent you are
00:23:33 preaching Indian viic Doctrine you are
00:23:37 not teaching the doctrine of Christ
00:23:41 correct and we and after this closing
00:23:45 thought we can go look at that if you
00:23:46 want or we can save it for another time
00:23:48 but I have a lot of um scriptures about
00:23:51 mesic it shows that’s not the case yeah
00:23:55 Book of Mormon uh DNC and jsts um I I
00:24:01 think that’s what it is I’d have to go
00:24:02 look at the notes it’s been a little
00:24:03 while um so the mighty and strong one
00:24:06 will be a descendant of
00:24:09 Joseph hence son of Joseph yeah um
00:24:15 because the reason they’ll say it that
00:24:17 way is because they don’t do cousins and
00:24:21 and grandchilden and blah blah blah in
00:24:24 the ancient days like we do today they
00:24:27 just say s or Sons
00:24:31 for it doesn’t matter how many in
00:24:34 between there is it’s just Fathers and
00:24:37 Sons um right right it’s the family line
00:24:41 right got it correct yeah in addition
00:24:44 the reason why Joseph Smith can’t be the
00:24:47 mining strong one because Revelation 11
00:24:50 Daniel 12 and others shows that he’s
00:24:54 going to die resurrected and transl ated
00:24:58 people cannot die and you can see that
00:25:02 well for one resurrected people is all
00:25:04 over the place but on translated people
00:25:06 you can see that in the Book of Mormon
00:25:08 in late third Nephi chapters where
00:25:11 people tried to hurt and kill the three
00:25:15 Nephites and they couldn’t because they
00:25:17 were translated you can see that you can
00:25:20 see that in the life of
00:25:22 John who boiled in oil and came out
00:25:27 unharmed
00:25:29 yeah uh and even in
00:25:32 Christian uh movies and commentaries
00:25:35 they’ll bring out how people tried to
00:25:37 kill John and they couldn’t because he
00:25:38 was trans they they don’t say it’s
00:25:40 because they’re translated they’re
00:25:42 confused by it and they don’t know what
00:25:44 to do with
00:25:45 it and there’s no account of John
00:25:48 actually dying either when you go look
00:25:50 at the accounts of the original
00:25:54 1112 right because of issue Judas um
00:25:59 Judas did himself in yeah yeah um
00:26:03 there’s no account of John
00:26:04 dying they just don’t know what happened
00:26:06 to
00:26:08 him he just kind of
00:26:11 faded all right because uh he just
00:26:14 stopped preaching because the people got
00:26:16 too Wicked just like the three Knights
00:26:18 they kind of stopped because people
00:26:19 started getting too Wicked but uh as
00:26:23 Ben’s bringing out he’s another example
00:26:25 how you can’t kill a translated person
00:26:29 right so makes which makes it
00:26:33 impossible for these guys to be anybody
00:26:36 who’s already passed or been translated
00:26:40 right right they can’t be the mighty and
00:26:41 strong one or the helper they have to be
00:26:44 the two uh the two olive trees at the
00:26:47 side of the
00:26:48 Candlestick are mortal
00:26:51 men right right they have to be that
00:26:55 makes sense that makes sense yeah
00:26:58 and one the mighty one they die yeah
00:27:03 yeah because otherwise they can’t die
00:27:04 the mighty strong one will be of
00:27:07 Ephraim son of Joseph yep and the
00:27:11 primary Helper and the secondary helper
00:27:14 which I like to call Aaron and her are
00:27:16 going to be of
00:27:18 Judah and you get that from the
00:27:20 scriptures um but
00:27:23 anyways um so I think that’s enough on
00:27:25 the son of Joseph right and that yeah
00:27:29 yeah I think we were gonna look uh at um
00:27:33 the the one about U Samuel oh yeah yes
00:27:37 yes um let’s pause for a minute and
00:27:40 let’s um let’s go find the verse because
00:27:42 I I don’t know what off thought my
00:27:44 head
00:27:47 J okay so here is a i
00:27:51 i i study the Old Testament and I listen
00:27:54 to the Old Testament um I’m working on
00:27:58 getting better knowing the
00:28:00 histories um anyways it’s hard to know
00:28:03 everything right so but uh one thing I
00:28:08 came across while we were while I was
00:28:11 studying and listening is a
00:28:14 connection uh with Samuel with Joseph
00:28:17 Smith now the reason that’s important is
00:28:20 because
00:28:21 Samuel
00:28:23 uh is an Elijah or a messenger just as J
00:28:28 Smith is the modern day
00:28:30 Elijah or messenger okay so so if you to
00:28:37 give a little bit of uh Preamble for
00:28:40 this scripturally there is a
00:28:44 recognizable
00:28:46 pattern of pattern of
00:28:49 Threes now not all not all pro not all
00:28:52 prophetic administrations fall into this
00:28:54 pattern but around the major events
00:28:56 There is almost always a pattern of
00:28:59 Threes And that is the
00:29:03 messenger the
00:29:05 preparer or the one Mighty and strong
00:29:08 and the Redeemer the Redeemer of the
00:29:10 promise so there’s this pattern of three
00:29:13 this is part of the importance of this
00:29:16 is that this is part of understanding
00:29:18 the mind and will of God God
00:29:22 works now I here’s a theory of mine why
00:29:27 he does this pattern three is a number
00:29:29 of
00:29:32 redemption so I I I do think that’s at
00:29:35 least part of the reason why I think
00:29:37 another reason why is just the nature of
00:29:39 man that it takes a while for people to
00:29:43 accept truth that the messenger sent or
00:29:47 was sent to give right um and so he
00:29:51 gives them time and then he sends the
00:29:54 preparer or Mighty strong one or Elisha
00:29:59 um to get people ready as in put their
00:30:03 past straight AKA keeping
00:30:07 Torah and then the Redeemer comes
00:30:10 because now they’re ready for it right
00:30:13 because they’ve been prepared for it so
00:30:16 uh I I can
00:30:20 see those two reasons for it
00:30:24 um I I think they’re valid but I I don’t
00:30:28 have any scriptures on that so it’s my
00:30:30 personal opinion there but
00:30:33 anyways so I think let’s first go read
00:30:38 this something from Joseph Smith history
00:30:40 that’s probably very familiar with
00:30:42 everybody uh on this part um Zach you
00:30:47 want to read 33 if I remember
00:30:54 incorrectly he called me by name and
00:30:56 sent it to me so this is Maroni talking
00:31:00 to Joseph Smith sorry interrupting
00:31:02 Maroni called Joseph Smith by
00:31:07 name that and said un to me that he was
00:31:11 a messenger sent from the presence of
00:31:13 God to me and that his name was
00:31:16 Moroni that God had a work for me to do
00:31:20 that that my name should be had for good
00:31:23 and evil among all nations kindreds
00:31:27 tongues and tongues or that should be
00:31:30 both good and evil spoken of among all
00:31:34 people so here’s a promise from Yahweh
00:31:38 through Moroni to Joseph Smith that his
00:31:40 name will be had all over the world for
00:31:44 good and
00:31:44 evil uh and there’s multiple
00:31:47 applications of that and one I will
00:31:50 say uh how Brigham Young uses Joseph
00:31:54 Smith’s name to try to justify tons of
00:31:57 EV things okay that is one way well I
00:32:01 think it’s important I think it’s also
00:32:03 important to point out here that he
00:32:05 receive that he got a call God had a
00:32:09 work for me to
00:32:11 do and and this call when he’s talking
00:32:15 about his name being had for both good
00:32:16 and
00:32:17 evil is
00:32:20 similar actually to the call of most
00:32:25 Prophets The Idea most no there is no
00:32:28 Prophet who is universally venerated in
00:32:31 his own generation no true
00:32:34 Prophet yeah well here’s another example
00:32:37 of an Elijah or messenger is Jeremiah
00:32:41 right yeah yeah people hated in the he
00:32:44 was thrown in the
00:32:46 sewer that’s a nice way Elijah basically
00:32:50 Elijah basically spent his all his whole
00:32:52 life on the run uhhuh because they hate
00:32:55 him and Elijah is an Elijah imagine that
00:33:00 so oh guess who else spent most of his
00:33:03 life on the
00:33:05 Run Joseph Smith yeah who is an Elijah
00:33:09 he is the modern day Elijah okay um now
00:33:13 so let’s go look at this 1st Samuel
00:33:17 320 verse you want to read that Ben
00:33:22 yeah and all
00:33:25 Israel allel from and even down to BBA
00:33:30 so wait a minute let’s let’s talk about
00:33:32 where’s Dan’s land located Dan Dan is
00:33:36 located in the North Anda is down in the
00:33:40 South oh so like all of isra extreme
00:33:44 North and extreme South yes the nation
00:33:47 of Israel right so that’s like all of
00:33:50 Israel then isn’t
00:33:52 it just like Joseph Smith is all the
00:33:55 world sorry yeah that
00:33:58 Samuel was
00:34:01 established was established to be a
00:34:05 prophet of the
00:34:07 Lord to be a prophet
00:34:10 of Y so here are two
00:34:14 Elijah or Messengers Samuel and Joseph
00:34:19 Smith getting a very similar promise now
00:34:23 I’m just going to point out
00:34:26 here that those who like to say that
00:34:29 Israel was so
00:34:32 wicked Israel accepted
00:34:38 Samuel the whole nation the whole whole
00:34:41 nation except
00:34:43 Samuel pretty amazing for a really
00:34:46 wicked unbelieving and and and terrible
00:34:50 set of
00:34:52 people and
00:34:54 yet when another Elisha comes before us
00:34:59 even his own
00:35:01 Elijah Elijah sorry yes when an Elijah
00:35:05 comes before us even his own
00:35:08 people
00:35:09 rejected what he taught none of the
00:35:12 restoration churches believe the Book of
00:35:16 Mormon and you can you can try to
00:35:19 challenge anybody can try to challenge
00:35:21 me on that they can challenge me too
00:35:24 so none of the restoration churches
00:35:27 believe The Book of Mormon they’ve all
00:35:29 rejected it to one extent or another
00:35:31 they don’t know what it says it is a
00:35:33 sealed book to them because they are so
00:35:36 hard-hearted they make Israel look
00:35:38 like look like their necks are made of
00:35:42 clay yeah and I I’ll tell you um I can
00:35:47 randomly open the Book of Mormon up and
00:35:49 show how it contradicts the LDS Brite
00:35:52 church every time within those two pages
00:35:56 um
00:35:58 I and so I stand by Ben’s statement I I
00:36:01 will do it too you can challenge me on
00:36:04 it any way you want
00:36:06 to I’m ready to I will I will accept the
00:36:12 challenge um and one that I’ll start
00:36:16 with if we want to do specifics you can
00:36:18 start with Sacrament just right just
00:36:21 that that’s a really one that’s supposed
00:36:23 to be pretty simple and happens every
00:36:24 single weekly Sabbath and u and the and
00:36:28 the members of the and the church do and
00:36:31 and all churches do it wrong every
00:36:34 time yeah okay also the go ahead the
00:36:40 restoration churches are dur the
00:36:43 restoration churches are engaging the
00:36:45 same exact sence the Israelites did from
00:36:48 time to time yes
00:36:50 ID yes they are yeah I completely agree
00:36:55 um and I’ll just do a little plug my
00:36:58 king Brigham post Brigham Young did
00:37:02 everything that King Noah did step by
00:37:05 step Point by Point including changing
00:37:08 the priesthood so I mean it’s almost
00:37:12 like it’s almost like he read the book
00:37:15 of Mormon even though I know he didn’t
00:37:17 yeah yeah well uh the little he did read
00:37:21 he definitely didn’t understand it but
00:37:23 it’s like the prophets of the Book of
00:37:25 Mormon saw our day maybe but just like
00:37:29 but just like Brigham Young followed
00:37:31 King Noah to the
00:37:32 letter Joseph Smith followed
00:37:35 zeni yeah to the
00:37:40 letter
00:37:41 yep I a recording on that I’ll put it in
00:37:44 the notes I mean our our day was our day
00:37:47 was not seen Zeal overtook
00:37:50 knowledge yes it did
00:37:54 yeah he wanted he wanted so badly to be
00:37:57 Obed to the Lord that
00:38:00 uh in some instances he didn’t wait
00:38:04 until until those people had qual until
00:38:07 those people had qualified themselves
00:38:08 before the Lord before he called
00:38:11 correct I think I read a post that you
00:38:14 did on that Ben actually uh yeah yeah
00:38:17 zenis was overzealous just as Joseph
00:38:20 Smith was overzealous
00:38:21 aw yep um and we we need to realize
00:38:28 um the one thing it’s it should actually
00:38:32 be of a
00:38:34 great comfort to us to realize that God
00:38:37 C that God
00:38:39 calls men with failings to be
00:38:44 prophets yeah because because
00:38:51 um you know God God can it’s an evidence
00:38:56 that God can work through you you if
00:38:58 you’re willing to be obedient to him in
00:39:00 the slightest
00:39:03 degree so one thing I I would like to
00:39:05 add is that although all the prophets
00:39:10 have have failings except one Yeshua the
00:39:13 prophet right right but the holy
00:39:17 prophets of Yahweh don’t claim things
00:39:20 came through Yahweh when they did not
00:39:24 yes right they they they they’re still
00:39:27 working
00:39:27 through um getting Sanctified and
00:39:31 getting their calling election made
00:39:33 sure but that’s quite different than
00:39:38 hiding their sins DNC
00:39:41 1221 uh because they’ll ommit it in fact
00:39:43 Joseph Smith has published in the DNC
00:39:46 how Yahweh chewed him out Joseph Smith
00:39:50 for his sins that’s very
00:39:53 public versus yeah not just once and not
00:39:58 just once uh so yeah I have a list of a
00:40:01 whole bunch we can just skim it real
00:40:04 quick I don’t want to spend a whole
00:40:04 bunch of time on it but uh it’s quite a
00:40:07 few and I found some more since we’ve
00:40:10 looked um been just FYI but anyways not
00:40:13 that that a whole bunch uh because Ben
00:40:16 has help I’m just bringing that up
00:40:17 because Ben’s helped me with the
00:40:19 list uh I don’t have lots of
00:40:23 notes oh no no no uh
00:40:30 yeah let me pause let me find
00:40:34 it so I found it and it’s called Yahweh
00:40:37 calling to repent but anyways you can
00:40:40 see here I’m an addicted to KMS but um
00:40:44 so here these are some ones I found
00:40:46 after working with Ben I need to figure
00:40:48 out the kayin but anyways there there’s
00:40:50 a few
00:40:52 right and these are very public where
00:40:56 figures like
00:40:58 young and Nelson or I forget his whole
00:41:02 name Nelson Russ Nelson yeah Russell
00:41:06 Nelson uh they work to hide their sins
00:41:10 contrary to DNC 121 which states goodbye
00:41:14 to their priesthood right
00:41:18 amen as I or as I like to call as I like
00:41:22 to call Russell M Nelson trusty
00:41:26 Rusty
00:41:33 hey we we we got to be peacemakers
00:41:37 okay yeah
00:41:39 they oh oh in other words we can’t stand
00:41:42 up for Truth for Fe it might offend
00:41:44 somebody correct yes uh yeah but that’s
00:41:47 not that’s not Peacemaker in the
00:41:49 scriptures Peacemaker in the scriptures
00:41:51 is someone who teaches yahweh’s truth so
00:41:53 that way they can go to Yahweh and get
00:41:55 true peace yeah
00:41:58 hey imagine recording go to the you go
00:42:01 to the source of peace to find peace
00:42:04 what you actually youan you actually you
00:42:07 actually you actually
00:42:09 allow to remake your life In His Image
00:42:12 so that you can find
00:42:14 peace yeah instead of following your
00:42:18 heart which is desperately
00:42:21 wicked yes your heart is desperately
00:42:24 wicked you don’t you don’t and until
00:42:27 you’re willing to admit that you don’t
00:42:29 want to obey the Lord you’re not in a
00:42:32 place where you actually can
00:42:36 yep and that is
00:42:38 true you have to be willing to admit
00:42:41 that you personally don’t want to obey
00:42:44 the Lord and then the Lord and and then
00:42:47 take that to the Lord and ask him to
00:42:50 help
00:42:53 you yeah so the main point here is how
00:42:57 holy prophets don’t hide their
00:43:01 sins they repent of them and they don’t
00:43:05 try to cover them
00:43:06 up they may not go around proclaiming
00:43:09 them which is not something you have to
00:43:11 do because part of repentance is talking
00:43:16 and get asking forgiveness of not a
00:43:18 bishop which I talk about in my Bishops
00:43:21 are Israel or judges of Israel posts but
00:43:25 you go to the people you’ve wronged
00:43:28 and Yahweh now when it’s appropriate to
00:43:32 help other people repent and see the
00:43:34 wrongs in their sin you can bring up how
00:43:37 you used to do something to
00:43:40 them right it’s not something you have
00:43:42 to go tell everybody or a bishop right
00:43:47 right you know there’s you don’t have to
00:43:49 publicly humiliate yourself there is
00:43:53 that’s flatulation by the way uh yes
00:43:56 which is is a a pagan uh yes it is a it
00:44:00 is good to live a confessional lifestyle
00:44:03 but you have to know who you’re supposed
00:44:06 to confess to right and as Ben and I
00:44:10 bring out an A word of
00:44:13 caution um when when you’re telling your
00:44:17 sins to Wicked
00:44:20 leaders they’ll use that against you oh
00:44:23 yes they will every time Catholic Church
00:44:26 does it the Eld Church does it and so
00:44:28 does the followers I think of Christ
00:44:30 group and Phil Davis groups do it of
00:44:34 course they do um it is a tactic to gain
00:44:38 power over you because you’re not ready
00:44:41 to because of they’re using their s
00:44:45 they’re using your sins to gain power
00:44:46 over you yes this is indeed that sounds
00:44:50 familiar who
00:44:53 else yeah and this is indeed the very
00:44:56 essence of wickedness
00:44:57 it’s the very essence of um it’s the
00:45:01 very essence of compulsion and
00:45:04 coercion and it and it is not of Christ
00:45:09 no it’s Satan’s plan oh yeah yeah it’s
00:45:13 just like how he has the chains of sin
00:45:16 to bind you to do what he wants you to
00:45:19 do
00:45:21 so it it goes very along with the
00:45:24 scriptures it’s just using imagery
00:45:28 the ye the atonement of
00:45:33 Christ when it has actually been applied
00:45:36 to your sins you will
00:45:38 not
00:45:40 uh you won’t fear your past no no man
00:45:44 can hold them over your head ever again
00:45:47 when you know that the atone that the
00:45:49 atoning blood of the Lamb covers you no
00:45:52 man can hold your pids over your head
00:45:54 and have it actually impact you
00:45:58 right
00:46:02 correct because they have been forgiven
00:46:05 you are covered under the blood of the
00:46:08 Lamb you can’t you don’t need to keep
00:46:10 dragging yourself through the dirt over
00:46:13 things that you’ve done in the
00:46:15 past right right
00:46:19 right because
00:46:22 you where they
00:46:24 belong
00:46:25 y
00:46:28 and uh while it is while it is while it
00:46:32 is a lie to preach that you have never
00:46:35 sinned it is
00:46:37 also
00:46:40 similarly um it is also similarly a lie
00:46:43 to preach that you cannot
00:46:47 possibly be obedient to the
00:46:50 law right right and if you thought that
00:46:54 you couldn’t keep the Commandments
00:46:58 uh that would make Yahweh an unjust
00:47:01 judge because why it would it’s only an
00:47:04 unjust judge that will judge you against
00:47:06 something a standard that you couldn’t
00:47:08 keep
00:47:10 yourself
00:47:13 correct yep so the so but to go back to
00:47:18 the original point because kind
00:47:21 of yeah we a little bit but we never do
00:47:24 that but but I would say track has been
00:47:27 an uplifting Sidetrack oh yes if not
00:47:31 necessarily explanatory of the original
00:47:33 Point sure sure the the original
00:47:38 point
00:47:39 is
00:47:41 that
00:47:43 Yeshua that Y is following the same
00:47:47 pattern that y has always followed
00:47:51 in the the Elijah is always well known
00:47:58 yes and rarely ever accepted except in
00:48:00 this one
00:48:02 instance where Israel was actually
00:48:04 righteous enough to accept their
00:48:07 profit now here’s an interesting little
00:48:11 tidbit um Joseph
00:48:13 Smith uh had two major
00:48:17 breakoff the brigite church and the
00:48:20 josephite church or the LDS and the rlds
00:48:25 church right Samuel had two sons who
00:48:29 were Wicked judges that accepted money
00:48:33 guess what that is a very good
00:48:36 description of the LDS brigite church
00:48:39 and the rlds community of Christ’s
00:48:41 Church they both accept money and do bad
00:48:44 judgments was it Samuel or was it Eli
00:48:47 who had the two Wicked Sons Samuel had
00:48:50 two bad Sons they they both had bads
00:48:53 that’s why that’s why they had the
00:48:54 choice for a king that yeah that’s
00:48:58 where is that where is that documented
00:49:01 in the
00:49:02 scriptures remember reading about Samuel
00:49:05 having children so I’m just yeah yeah
00:49:08 let’s pause let’s go because I don’t
00:49:09 remember the verse off top of my head
00:49:10 let’s pause find it and then we’ll come
00:49:13 we’re
00:49:15 okay all right so we found out where it
00:49:18 states what I was saying that Samuel had
00:49:21 two Wicked sons that took bribes so it’s
00:49:24 1st Samuel 8 1-3 uh Josh you want to
00:49:27 read those for
00:49:29 us here and it came to pass when Samuel
00:49:34 was old that he made his sons judges
00:49:37 over Israel now the name of his
00:49:40 firstborn was Joel and the name of his
00:49:43 second ABIA and they were judges in
00:49:46 beerseba so all the way down south okay
00:49:49 right and his sons walked not in his
00:49:53 ways but turned aside after lucer and
00:49:56 took bre tries and perverted
00:49:59 judgment so I’ll tell you that sounds
00:50:02 like the two major uh big restoration
00:50:06 that is that is that descri the Church
00:50:11 of Jesus Christ of latterday saints in a
00:50:13 nutshell I can’t speak for uh I can’t
00:50:17 speak for or against the rlds church not
00:50:20 having not knowing that organization
00:50:23 terribly well I know a bit about them
00:50:26 and it it fits so um yeah so one one
00:50:31 thing let me pause for one
00:50:37 second so we just looked at the uh
00:50:41 Samuel’s two sons names meaning in
00:50:44 Hebrew They Don’t Really connect to the
00:50:48 LDS prite church or the rlds Community
00:50:51 Christ
00:50:52 churches um but their actions
00:50:57 do match the actions of the two sons
00:51:01 because they both have taken bribes they
00:51:03 love money in fact the rlds church or
00:51:06 Community of Christ just sold tons of
00:51:10 sacred
00:51:11 artifacts such that
00:51:15 the apostles and Prophets and other top
00:51:20 leaders can have retirement
00:51:23 funds they’re more worried about
00:51:25 themselves
00:51:27 as Samuel’s two sons were then they were
00:51:30 of actual
00:51:32 real judgment and righteousness well and
00:51:36 the the
00:51:37 main and the main tragedy of this is
00:51:40 that these none of these things that
00:51:43 they
00:51:44 sold are
00:51:49 um are of Greater worth than the gospel
00:51:53 oh yeah I and I
00:51:57 but the facts of the matter the facts of
00:52:00 the matter
00:52:01 are that the Church of Jesus Christ of
00:52:05 latterday saints has a
00:52:08 history of
00:52:11 modifying documents
00:52:14 sites anything they get their hands on
00:52:17 so that it makes them look good and it
00:52:19 obscures the truth about the history of
00:52:23 the church corre because if the history
00:52:26 of the church were known the El the
00:52:30 Church of Jesus Christ of latterday
00:52:32 saints would cease to exist among decent
00:52:37 human
00:52:38 beings Amen to
00:52:42 that uh another thing I will want to add
00:52:45 is how the eldest church brigite
00:52:49 church robs the poor first in telling
00:52:53 the poor they need to pay tithing before
00:52:56 they take care of their children’s
00:52:59 food right and then they rob them by not
00:53:03 giving them the poor tithing that was
00:53:06 paid for the poor to take care of the
00:53:10 poor well and even worse and even worse
00:53:14 than
00:53:14 that the help that they grudgingly
00:53:18 give they give in return
00:53:22 for a greater control over your life
00:53:27 right right and service so they make you
00:53:29 work for it they’re not giving it out
00:53:31 just for free like an Elma 2 does um and
00:53:36 they’re doing what second Epi 28 brings
00:53:38 out how they’re robbing the poor for the
00:53:40 fine sanctuaries they spend more money
00:53:42 on the false promite temples than they
00:53:46 do on taking care of the
00:53:48 poor by and then the the small amount of
00:53:51 money that they put to the side for
00:53:53 disaster relief oh look we’re helping
00:53:56 all all these people these disaster
00:53:58 areas you be like okay that’s a drop in
00:54:00 the bucket oh yeah they they give less
00:54:02 than
00:54:04 0.1% and also the fact that when they do
00:54:07 give something they’re bragging about it
00:54:09 Yeshua said something about that in
00:54:11 sermon on Torah more known as Sermon on
00:54:14 the Mount so oh look at all these poor
00:54:17 innocent hedge funds we’re protecting
00:54:19 with all the with all of your tithing
00:54:23 money sorry yeah no that’s well so I I I
00:54:29 partly believe one of the reasons they
00:54:32 do this is so that way they can have
00:54:34 fluence over these companies because
00:54:35 when you get
00:54:36 enough uh stocks you have influence in
00:54:40 those companies and so they can direct
00:54:42 what’s going on but any
00:54:47 yeah all right um all right well let me
00:54:50 pause hold on let me
00:54:53 pause here we
00:54:55 go
00:54:57 okay I have
00:55:00 um I’ve heard this a lot um people
00:55:05 hypothesizing about the judge the
00:55:07 interview at judgment in um in the LDS
00:55:12 church I’ve heard a lot of people
00:55:13 hypothesize about this and um talking
00:55:17 you know they hypothesize that it’ll be
00:55:21 some kind of gigantic guilt trip from
00:55:23 God about um whatever is remember that
00:55:27 person that you didn’t
00:55:29 help oh Lord I didn’t see that person
00:55:32 well well you didn’t help
00:55:35 him uh so uh it’s uh these these kinds
00:55:40 of things are ridiculous this is but
00:55:43 first
00:55:45 off in the mind and will of God the
00:55:48 trial of the wicked is a public event
00:55:52 yeah it’s at the public gate in fact
00:55:55 that is why
00:55:56 in the scriptures that all judgments are
00:56:00 at the gates because it’s pattern off of
00:56:03 the Judgment that Yahweh will do and
00:56:07 just you know right and if the judgment
00:56:10 is that the person should be killed that
00:56:12 person is killed outside the gates that
00:56:14 the blood be not upon the city itself
00:56:19 correct uh so the um so one thing I will
00:56:24 say this goes against the L pite church
00:56:27 and other Christian churches and
00:56:29 restoration churches where they do these
00:56:31 judgments in private they’re supposed to
00:56:33 be public yeah the judgment is judgment
00:56:37 is a a judgment is a public Affair and
00:56:40 it’s actually um it’s supposed to
00:56:44 it the Judgment proceedings are only
00:56:47 engaged in when the parties themselves
00:56:50 could not come to an amicable
00:56:52 understanding privately right right uh
00:56:56 it it what Ben’s going off of how uh in
00:56:59 Mor A7 it describes how we all are to
00:57:02 make righteous judgments now when
00:57:05 there’s through two parties when one
00:57:07 offended one or they both offended each
00:57:09 other or whatever and they can’t come to
00:57:12 an agreement how to apply Torah in that
00:57:16 circumstance that’s when the judges
00:57:19 comes into
00:57:22 place right now there are uh there are
00:57:28 offenses again there are thing there are
00:57:30 things that are offenses against God and
00:57:33 when that offense is committed when an
00:57:35 offense against God and His truth and
00:57:37 his Doctrine is committed publicly that
00:57:40 that offense is to be called out
00:57:42 publicly
00:57:43 [Music]
00:57:44 right um now um if a judgment needs
00:57:52 capital punishment you have to go to
00:57:55 judge to do that one you that’s not one
00:57:57 you can do on your own um that’s not one
00:58:00 that the church that is not a judgment
00:58:01 that the church can make the church
00:58:03 that’s the civil government uh needs to
00:58:06 do that uh so I agree with that but my
00:58:09 main point is that just the people on
00:58:11 the street working with each other can’t
00:58:13 make that judgment they have to go to an
00:58:15 official judge an official government
00:58:18 civil government judge to do that one
00:58:20 and the truth of the matter is an eye
00:58:23 for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is a
00:58:25 true principle in the right
00:58:28 context yeah well you want to tell us
00:58:30 what it means or do you want me
00:58:31 to um now what that
00:58:35 means uh what I what I’ll do is I’ll is
00:58:38 I’ll do my best to explain what it means
00:58:40 then you can provide the scripture basis
00:58:43 for it um now what an eye for an eye and
00:58:47 a tooth for a tooth the place where that
00:58:50 teaching was actually given was when God
00:58:53 was instructing judges
00:58:57 meaning eye for an eye a tooth for a
00:59:00 tooth the punishment fits the crime
00:59:04 corre it is not oh he punched me in the
00:59:08 face I get to punch
00:59:10 him judges
00:59:14 out that’s not an eye that is not the
00:59:17 correct application of an eye for an eye
00:59:18 and a tooth for a tooth no it’s not the
00:59:21 correct application for an eye for an
00:59:22 eye and a tooth for a tooth is in the
00:59:24 courtroom of Zion
00:59:26 right and it’s a charge to the judges
00:59:30 that the punishment equals the crime for
00:59:34 example uh if someone pokes out their
00:59:37 eye you now need to be their their eyes
00:59:42 so you’re responsible to make sure that
00:59:44 they can see where they’re going
00:59:46 perhaps uh you buy and take care and
00:59:51 provide the food for the ey seeeing dog
00:59:54 for example and this goes against the
00:59:57 culture at the time where there was um
01:00:00 unfair judgments or in today’s society
01:00:04 in the USA
01:00:07 um
01:00:08 uh unusual and cruel punishments is one
01:00:13 way you can think about it when that is
01:00:16 not an eye for an eye a tooth for a
01:00:18 tooth because that’s going well beyond
01:00:20 the means and so it’s even in US
01:00:23 law an eye for an eye and tooth for
01:00:25 tooth
01:00:26 it’s using different descriptive terms
01:00:29 because we’re a different culture that
01:00:30 has forgotten the Hebrew terminology for
01:00:33 things but it’s the same principle uh
01:00:37 you just judgment for the
01:00:41 crime and so um so the script the
01:00:46 scriptural context for for this for the
01:00:50 appropriate
01:00:52 um for the appropriate use of eye for an
01:00:55 i and a tooth for to I I
01:00:59 believe
01:01:02 let’s go I’m gonna look up something
01:01:07 real quick you might want to pause so
01:01:08 let me pause where you’re looking it up
01:01:12 okay okay so we found the so we so we’re
01:01:15 here at the scriptural uh basis for the
01:01:19 for the understanding of an eye and a an
01:01:22 eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth
01:01:24 where you’ll h
01:01:26 himself gives this uh injunction and in
01:01:31 starting in verse 22 and going through
01:01:32 verse
01:01:34 27 if men strive and hurt a woman with
01:01:37 child so that her fruit depart from her
01:01:39 and yet no Mischief follow he shall
01:01:41 surely he shall be surely punished now
01:01:43 one one thing I just want to say this
01:01:45 the fruit of her womb is a baby uh that
01:01:50 has not been born right so if somebody
01:01:53 kills an unborn baby he shall be surely
01:01:55 punished which
01:01:57 shows that I know there’s some people
01:02:00 that like to claim the Bible doesn’t
01:02:02 teach against abortion it does this is
01:02:04 one example according as the woman’s
01:02:07 husband will lay upon him and he shall
01:02:09 pay as the judges determine oh wait like
01:02:13 pay as in money
01:02:16 [Music]
01:02:18 or time so but so in in the Old
01:02:23 Testament and through all the Hebrew
01:02:25 scriptures there is nothing
01:02:27 about paying your dues to society by
01:02:31 sitting in a cage that is not Hebel that
01:02:36 is not
01:02:37 Yahweh you have a fine now if you can’t
01:02:42 pay the fine you will go to you have to
01:02:44 sell yourself into servitude so you can
01:02:48 pay that
01:02:50 debt but it’s never that you’re just
01:02:52 sitting in prison it’s you’re working on
01:02:55 off your
01:02:57 debt he shall pay as the judges
01:03:01 determine and now the instruction for
01:03:03 the judges and if any Mischief follow
01:03:05 then Thou shalt give life for life if
01:03:09 the person then proceeds to if the
01:03:12 person then proceeds to disrespect the
01:03:14 Judgment of the judges and not to follow
01:03:16 it then the then the penalty they pay is
01:03:19 their
01:03:21 life eye for an eye tooth for tooth hand
01:03:25 for hand foot for foot this what this is
01:03:29 talking about is basically what Stephen
01:03:32 was saying you know if you put out
01:03:34 somebody’s eye you become their eyes if
01:03:36 you take if you put out some if if you
01:03:38 knock somebody’s teeth
01:03:40 out um you need to chew their food I
01:03:43 mean that sounds disgusting but that’s
01:03:45 not literal but you probably have to you
01:03:47 have to smash their food up with a fork
01:03:49 or something you have to you have to
01:03:50 serve them yeah you have to serve them
01:03:53 sufficient that they can
01:03:54 eat
01:03:56 uh if you break someone’s hand you have
01:03:59 to be their
01:04:00 hands if you if you if you damage
01:04:04 someone’s foot so that they can’t
01:04:08 walk you have to carry them on your
01:04:11 back you are their feet burning for
01:04:15 burning if you cause I if you I if you
01:04:19 damage somebody else’s property you have
01:04:22 to replace
01:04:24 it
01:04:26 wound for wound if you wound
01:04:31 somebody you have to heal
01:04:35 them stripe for
01:04:41 stripe I think you get the
01:04:44 picture so um in addition to help show
01:04:48 that this is a a debt of money or other
01:04:53 physical items in the law
01:04:56 uh we can find it uh because I don’t
01:04:58 remember off top of my head it also
01:05:00 brings out that if you stole
01:05:03 $10 you have to give back 12 because you
01:05:07 have to be give back an additional
01:05:11 20% you can’t give back an additional
01:05:13 20% of an eye or a tooth or a hand
01:05:17 because you can’t even give back one of
01:05:19 those period to be
01:05:21 honest um another thing I want to say
01:05:23 real quick if that’s all right with Ben
01:05:26 is eye for eye tooth for tooth hand for
01:05:29 hand foot for foot is very
01:05:32 symbolic you will be judged on your
01:05:35 desires
01:05:37 eyes and Yahweh will give your desires
01:05:40 to
01:05:41 you you’ll be judged by what you chose
01:05:44 to take in your
01:05:46 teeth uh teeth is more thoughts but yeah
01:05:50 that your what you take in does affect
01:05:52 your thoughts yeah the the the yeah the
01:05:56 thought what you choose to what you
01:05:58 choose to edify yourself with is what
01:06:01 passes yeah it affects your spiritual
01:06:04 teeth yeah and your hands are your works
01:06:07 and your foots are your path right um so
01:06:13 and the burning and I think the burning
01:06:16 is
01:06:17 self-explanatory yeah there’s one coming
01:06:21 um but also how your Desir is burn to go
01:06:25 after other people this also goes along
01:06:28 lines with that uh is brought out that
01:06:31 the hole that you dig for others is the
01:06:34 hole that Yahweh will put you
01:06:40 into yep and so this actually so this
01:06:42 actually points back to the original
01:06:44 point which is when we come to the
01:06:47 Judgment if we have not repented and
01:06:50 received the covering of the blood of
01:06:54 Yeshua for our
01:06:56 sins then we will go through a public
01:06:59 judgment
01:07:01 wherein these principles are
01:07:06 applied
01:07:08 yeah if a man Smite the eye of his
01:07:10 servant or the eye of his made that it
01:07:12 perish he shall let him go free for his
01:07:14 eyes sake now the reason it says that is
01:07:18 as we go look at earlier and we already
01:07:19 talked about this has to do with debt of
01:07:23 money now as
01:07:26 the servitude servant is someone that
01:07:29 got in the servitude of the master
01:07:31 because he took him on so that he could
01:07:33 pay his
01:07:35 debt now when the master hurt him um
01:07:40 he he just has to let go of the debt
01:07:43 that’s how he pays them back on that pay
01:07:45 so it’s the same principle applied
01:07:48 slightly different but and the same way
01:07:52 the same way in the case when there’s a
01:07:55 master and a servant toe in place yep
01:07:59 hopefully that makes sense for people
01:08:01 and the same and the same general
01:08:03 principle applies to verse 27 if he
01:08:05 smites Smite out his man servant’s tooth
01:08:07 or his maid servant’s tooth he shall let
01:08:09 him go free for his tooth’s
01:08:11 sake it’s going off the debt that’s
01:08:14 going on because the reason they’re in
01:08:16 the servitude of the master is because
01:08:19 they’re in debt of their Master because
01:08:20 the debt the master paid but this harm
01:08:24 that the master did cancels that
01:08:28 debt so yeah um there are those there
01:08:33 are those who complain about Torah
01:08:35 because it allows for
01:08:39 slavery it’s not slaver it
01:08:43 is servitude to pay off debts and that
01:08:46 is the only reason that Torah
01:08:49 allows for slavery right and it’s way
01:08:53 better system than we have today you
01:08:55 just go in prison and you can’t do
01:08:57 anything about it you’re stuck there
01:08:58 forever stuck there in prison with a
01:09:00 bunch of other people who do who are
01:09:02 thinking exactly the same way you are
01:09:05 and I don’t know how anybody thinks that
01:09:07 that’s going to rehabilitate a sinner or
01:09:09 cause them to uh cause them to really
01:09:12 accept Jesus in their
01:09:17 life uh people there’s a few cases but
01:09:22 it’s rare but either way it’s not
01:09:25 according to yahweh’s ways right uh and
01:09:30 I’ll just say that the current
01:09:34 um is it jail or prison I I don’t know
01:09:37 because there’s a difference between the
01:09:38 two and I can’t remember which one’s
01:09:39 which but uh it’s very corrupt right now
01:09:43 and people are in charge of them for
01:09:46 profit not for the sake of helping
01:09:49 people
01:09:50 rehabilitate the fact that you have to
01:09:52 go work by the sweat of your brow while
01:09:54 you’re thinking about what what got you
01:09:57 there in the first place will cause you
01:09:58 to change not to mention uh the laws a
01:10:02 deal with
01:10:03 servitude when the time is up the master
01:10:07 has to give items to the servant such
01:10:12 that they don’t get into that same
01:10:14 circumstance again that is not I will
01:10:17 repeat that is not
01:10:22 slavery because it’s to help out of it
01:10:25 and stay out of
01:10:28 it every seven
01:10:31 years the servants were
01:10:35 freed every seven years
01:10:41 yep ah so if go ahead yeah so if you
01:10:47 want to equate that with the system of
01:10:49 slavery wherein um the wherein the
01:10:52 Protestants of uh wherein the
01:10:54 Protestants and Catholics of Europe were
01:10:57 going down to Africa kidnapping PE and
01:11:00 stealing
01:11:01 people well the Africans themselves were
01:11:04 stealing other Africans and selling them
01:11:06 to the
01:11:07 Europeans uh and then the Europeans
01:11:09 would take them over to America and sell
01:11:11 them if you want to equate that with
01:11:13 what is prescribed as a means for paying
01:11:17 your legally acquired
01:11:22 debts or even the barber States
01:11:27 then
01:11:28 um
01:11:30 you you
01:11:33 have you have an issue and you need to
01:11:36 repent and you are too proud and you are
01:11:37 too
01:11:40 proud and not only that but you’re just
01:11:43 wrongheaded because this is just every
01:11:47 every seven
01:11:48 years every seven years the people were
01:11:51 the the people who had these servants
01:11:53 were required to to set them free with
01:11:57 sufficient that they could set
01:11:59 themselves up yeah and if you go look at
01:12:02 Leviticus 25 it’s not just seven years
01:12:05 from
01:12:06 when uh the master took took on the
01:12:10 servant toe it’s a set
01:12:15 cycle um it’s a set cycle of seven years
01:12:18 the master took the
01:12:20 guy so if the master if the master took
01:12:22 him in the middle he he has to take an
01:12:24 account out that he’s only got him for
01:12:27 three and a half years so um also right
01:12:31 if the master takes him into account in
01:12:33 the last year he still has to let set
01:12:35 him free on the if he takes him if he
01:12:37 takes a servant in year six he still has
01:12:39 to set him free in year seven correct
01:12:42 and 25 talks about how they have to take
01:12:45 that uh percentage that’s left in the
01:12:47 sevene into account also I do want to
01:12:50 say this points to the Millennium where
01:12:54 Yeshua
01:12:56 Reign all
01:12:58 people that believe in him will be set
01:13:01 free in the
01:13:04 Millennium and so these some of these
01:13:07 weird
01:13:09 rules uh in today’s society Mak actually
01:13:13 sorry go
01:13:15 ahead they’re actually prophetic in
01:13:17 nature oh yes they’re very prophetic in
01:13:19 nature
01:13:21 and uh when you actually sit down and
01:13:23 look at them they’re better Solutions
01:13:24 than what but the currently around the
01:13:27 world today because they’re actually
01:13:29 working on solving the real issue and
01:13:32 not
01:13:33 just uh an illusion of taking care of
01:13:36 the
01:13:38 problem right you know and so you know
01:13:42 it’s uh and so that is so so that is the
01:13:46 idea behind the eye for an eye tooth for
01:13:49 tooth um it’s actually a correct
01:13:51 principle and let’s actually take a look
01:13:54 at what yes what Yeshua actually said um
01:14:00 about this principle he let me pause
01:14:03 while you’re getting that verse you want
01:14:07 okay okay so here and while I’m at this
01:14:12 I’m actually going to talk about a way
01:14:14 that this is a common mistr we we’ve got
01:14:19 to what Yeshua has to say about an eye
01:14:21 for an eye and a tooth for tooth and
01:14:22 we’re going to um and we’re going to go
01:14:26 to uh I’m going to go over a common
01:14:30 mistranslation that is used that is
01:14:33 actually given throughout the Sermon on
01:14:36 the
01:14:37 Mount which is in our scriptures and um
01:14:42 and and we’ll talk about that too so
01:14:45 we’re going to start in verse
01:14:47 38 ye have heard that it hath been said
01:14:50 an eye for an eye and a tooth for a
01:14:52 tooth verse 39 starts with but which is
01:14:54 actually a
01:14:57 negator this is actually a Mis this is
01:14:59 actually a
01:15:02 mistranslation or it it was either a
01:15:04 mistranslation into the Greek from the
01:15:06 Hebrew because the because the Hebrew
01:15:09 because Hebrew text always have
01:15:13 and translations Hebrew texts always
01:15:16 have want to show Hebrew Matthew or uh
01:15:20 we’ll have we’ll have to show that after
01:15:23 okay here because I don’t have that on
01:15:25 this computer okay
01:15:27 um the in from Hebrew um from he but
01:15:31 from Hebrew transcripts of the New
01:15:34 Testament this butt is always
01:15:38 and as opposed to we’re negating the law
01:15:41 of
01:15:42 Moses no we’re going to give additional
01:15:44 instruction on the law of Mo we’re GNA
01:15:46 we’re or we’re negating Torah I should
01:15:49 say um bad habits um P your bad habits
01:15:54 dry Die Hard
01:15:56 so to and oh I’m going to give you I’m
01:16:00 going to help you better understand
01:16:03 Torah right and and so I’m G to replace
01:16:06 but with and now and I say unto you that
01:16:10 ye resist not evil but what whosoever
01:16:13 shall smite thee on thy right cheek turn
01:16:15 to him the other also so this is
01:16:18 saying it’s not your job to extract the
01:16:22 eye for eye or tooth for tooth right in
01:16:24 fact uh he’s talking to everybody right
01:16:27 here and it’s the
01:16:30 judges um job
01:16:33 to enforce that when people don’t want
01:16:35 to do it themselves right as we talked a
01:16:39 little bit on previously how saying that
01:16:41 if you can’t come to resolution together
01:16:44 that’s when you go to the
01:16:46 judges so and if any man will sue thee
01:16:48 at the law and take away thy coat see he
01:16:51 takes away the coat because you’ve
01:16:53 already lost
01:16:55 at the
01:16:56 court let him have thy cloak
01:17:01 also and whosoever shall compel thee to
01:17:04 go a mile go with him
01:17:07 Twain give to him that asketh thee and
01:17:09 from him that would borrow of thee turn
01:17:11 thou turn not thou
01:17:14 away so I would just to reinforce that
01:17:19 but to end I’m going to let I’m going to
01:17:22 stop sharing here and I’m going to let
01:17:24 Ste even pull up the uh Hebrew Matthew
01:17:29 so that we can look at
01:17:32 that so here just to verify this fact
01:17:38 from uh the he from any any transcript
01:17:42 of the Hebrew gospels that but is
01:17:44 replaced with and uh when when Yeshua
01:17:49 gives his Exposition his his explanation
01:17:52 of how that applies to you
01:17:57 uh you know here it is in Matthew
01:18:01 Chapter 5 you yourselves have heard the
01:18:05 Torah says an eye for an eye and a tooth
01:18:08 for a
01:18:09 tooth and I say unto you that you m that
01:18:15 you must not repay evil with evil
01:18:18 meaning it’s put that emphasis on you
01:18:21 sorry go ahead put that emphasis on you
01:18:24 I say unto you that you must not repay
01:18:27 evil with evil but good for evil now so
01:18:32 let me I’m just interject a little bit
01:18:34 evil for evil is off the idea because
01:18:36 you poked out my eye I can now poke out
01:18:39 yours that’s evil because doing stuff
01:18:42 like that is against Torah which is evil
01:18:45 but do good for evil so this is the good
01:18:49 are things according to Torah and this
01:18:52 part would be the judgments
01:18:55 portion of Torah and so he’s telling the
01:18:59 judges go
01:19:02 ahead yeah so what he’s telling the
01:19:05 judges
01:19:06 is that your judgment must cause the
01:19:10 other person to reward good for evil
01:19:15 yeah for the evil that was done to them
01:19:19 oh certainly if a man smites you on the
01:19:22 One Cheek a point for him the
01:19:28 other and whosoever tears away from you
01:19:32 the Garment by force allow to him the
01:19:38 cloak and whosoever compels you to walk
01:19:41 a thousand
01:19:44 steps now that’s actually a significant
01:19:47 number and that’s not something that is
01:19:49 given in your King James version
01:19:53 right
01:19:57 whosoever compels you to walk a thousand
01:20:00 steps walk with him
01:20:12 2000 this
01:20:16 is so let’s go read unless you’re going
01:20:19 to talk about the Thousand let’s read 42
01:20:21 and I want to say a little bit about
01:20:22 that and whosoever asks you asks of you
01:20:26 give to him and you must not argue with
01:20:30 whosoever wants to borrow from
01:20:32 you so uh this part is primarily to poor
01:20:38 or other people but this has to do with
01:20:42 loans um so you you can loan things out
01:20:48 according to Torah and here it is on
01:20:49 sermon on
01:20:51 Torah um but you can’t charge you y you
01:20:56 can’t take advantage of the
01:20:58 poor it doesn’t say you can’t charge
01:21:01 interest for those who are rich the big
01:21:03 issue is on this is the poor as just
01:21:07 along with what we since we talked about
01:21:09 the servitude a little bit I’m going to
01:21:11 add a little bit connect that servitude
01:21:15 is to make sure they don’t continue in
01:21:18 the poor once they’re done paying off
01:21:20 their debt with their sweat of their
01:21:23 brow and here’s the here’s what the
01:21:26 Torah says in Deuteronomy
01:21:29 159-10 you must even lend to the poor if
01:21:33 the seventh year is close and you know
01:21:36 that he will be unable to repay you
01:21:39 right this is part of taking care of the
01:21:43 poor and notice how it said there
01:21:48 loan because I I’m bringing that out
01:21:50 because there’s a lot of people that
01:21:52 think Jews can’t loan to Jews that’s a
01:21:55 misinterpretation of another
01:21:58 passage taking out a context of the
01:22:01 rest we are to help people and to make
01:22:05 it so they stay in bondage to
01:22:08 us sharks do today but anyways yep and
01:22:12 just to show you that this entire
01:22:15 teaching that a lot of this teaching is
01:22:18 very much traceable to Torah let’s go
01:22:20 back up to G uh and whosoever asks of
01:22:23 you give to him
01:22:26 the Torah says if there be poor among
01:22:28 you you may not Harden your heart and
01:22:31 not shut your hand but you must
01:22:33 certainly open your hand and certainly
01:22:35 lend him enough for his lack and guess
01:22:38 what that is straight in line with what
01:22:41 is taught in mosiah chapter 5 for people
01:22:44 who wish to retain a rem a remission of
01:22:47 their
01:22:48 sins
01:22:50 y if you will if you refuse your hand
01:22:54 from the person who if you refuse your
01:22:56 substance to the person who puts up his
01:22:58 hand for the for sustenance you’re doing
01:23:01 exactly you’re doing exactly the same
01:23:04 thing that you are hoping that the
01:23:07 Savior doesn’t do to you when you
01:23:09 petition him for forgiveness of your
01:23:12 sins yeah which has to do with debt even
01:23:16 the context is the same it’s a different
01:23:18 type of debt but it is a debt and given
01:23:21 that all debts are forgiven every seven
01:23:23 years
01:23:26 you
01:23:29 have you have to be willing to loan
01:23:32 knowing that you might not get it all
01:23:36 back yep because it’s about helping the
01:23:39 poor not loving your
01:23:47 substance
01:23:49 so okay I but but guess what
01:23:53 guys I just showed you something The
01:23:56 Book of Mormon teaches
01:24:00 Torah oh it it it does all over the
01:24:02 place but I’m just I’m just showing a
01:24:05 spe I’ve showed a specific instance
01:24:07 where it actually specifically taught
01:24:09 Torah right right I agree um so uh I I I
01:24:14 do want to say this the reason why
01:24:15 people don’t see Torah in the Book of
01:24:17 Mormon is because they don’t know Torah
01:24:20 to see it in the first
01:24:22 place so let let’s pause for one second
01:24:30 okay okay so somebody so my brother
01:24:33 Andrew just came on um and so we’re
01:24:37 gonna so we’re gonna do a little bit of
01:24:39 a recap here on uh Hebrew Matthew uh
01:24:43 five verses
01:24:45 38-42 minor recap not g to not going to
01:24:49 go too much into depth uh but we’ll
01:24:52 we’ll uh just to give just to give some
01:24:55 of the uh just to give him some of the
01:24:58 meat that we were that we were going
01:25:00 over
01:25:01 here okay so in verse 38 it says Yeshua
01:25:05 says you yourselves have heard that the
01:25:07 Torah says an eye for an eye and a tooth
01:25:10 for a
01:25:11 tooth uh this is and you know the
01:25:15 footnote says this is about judgment not
01:25:17 about personal
01:25:19 Vengeance you see that’s the problem
01:25:21 that most people
01:25:23 have I would add sorry I I would add
01:25:27 righteous
01:25:28 judgment right um because there’s a
01:25:31 difference between righteous and
01:25:32 unrighteous but so here and here Jesus
01:25:34 is gonna and here Yeshua is going to
01:25:36 define the difference for us I say unto
01:25:39 you that you must not repay evil with
01:25:41 evil so in other words this guy the
01:25:45 judge is not allowed to say okay this
01:25:47 guy put your eye out you can put his eye
01:25:50 out that’s not what the judge is
01:25:52 supposed to say but good for evil okay
01:25:57 this guy put your eye out he’s gonna be
01:25:59 your
01:26:00 eye
01:26:03 ah certainly if a man smites you on the
01:26:06 One Cheek a point for him the
01:26:10 other andad reviling him let him do it
01:26:13 again somewhat like uh the sons of helan
01:26:18 right
01:26:20 right and whosoever tears away from you
01:26:23 the Garment by force allow him the cloak
01:26:26 allow to him the
01:26:30 cloak I mean isn’t this is really clear
01:26:35 this is really clear
01:26:37 stuff and whosoever and whosoever
01:26:40 compels you to walk a thousand steps
01:26:42 walk with him
01:26:45 2,000 and whoo and whosoever asks of you
01:26:49 give to him G and whosoever asks of you
01:26:52 give to him now here this is actually
01:26:55 going right along this is not
01:26:57 contradicting Torah at all it’s actually
01:27:00 going right along with it Deuteronomy 15
01:27:03 7-8 if there be a poor one among you you
01:27:06 may not Harden your heart and shut your
01:27:08 and not shut your
01:27:10 hand you must certainly open your hand
01:27:13 and certainly lend him enough for his
01:27:14 lack which actually walks hand in hand
01:27:16 with what king Benjamin taught the
01:27:18 people at the Feast of
01:27:20 Tabernacles in mosiah chapter 5 about
01:27:24 what you have to do if you wish to
01:27:26 retain a remission of your
01:27:28 sins that you cannot deny the
01:27:33 beggar when he puts his hand up to you
01:27:35 for a
01:27:36 petition yeah so and this the point is
01:27:41 is you’re allowed to
01:27:43 lend you are allowed to
01:27:45 lend but every seven years all debts are
01:27:48 canceled so you lend knowing that you’ll
01:27:50 probably not get everything back yeah in
01:27:54 fact at the end of the seven years uh
01:27:58 you have to give them more
01:28:00 right which is not slavery this is
01:28:04 helping people out of their
01:28:07 poverty but they have to put some effort
01:28:10 into it
01:28:12 themselves so you see this is’s what
01:28:14 he’s teaching and what the Book of
01:28:16 Mormon teaches is right in line with
01:28:19 Torah and so this I’ve just shown you a
01:28:23 place where Book of Mormon specifically
01:28:26 teaches Torah as Christ taught it
01:28:33 yes and as it’s recorded in
01:28:36 Deuteronomy oh oh we believe in but we
01:28:39 can’t believe in the we can’t believe in
01:28:41 words of the deuteronomist Deuteronomy
01:28:43 after all these terrible deuteronomists
01:28:45 were actually defining the law for us
01:28:48 and helping us to make sure that we
01:28:49 understood it we can’t do that can’t
01:28:52 understand the law so I do have a post
01:28:55 against the deuteronomist theory I’ll
01:28:57 put it in the notes um so those those
01:29:01 who those who buy into the documentary
01:29:03 Theory are also ignoring key key
01:29:05 evidence that actually uh that actually
01:29:09 eliminate that theory even as a
01:29:10 considerable thing for intelligent
01:29:12 people let alone
01:29:15 uh let alone just your average person um
01:29:20 you know what one of my favorite
01:29:21 chapters in the Bible is what
01:29:24 Deuteronomy 30 oh yes yes we’ve
01:29:29 got we actually have a recording where
01:29:31 we went over that oh that would be cool
01:29:34 uh when did you guys do
01:29:36 that uh I don’t remember I can find it
01:29:39 real Qui let me okay I if you if you
01:29:42 want to I’d love to be able to see that
01:29:44 because yeah it’s very it’s in very
01:29:47 plain
01:29:49 language
01:29:51 that Tor is to be kept in the last stes
01:29:55 yes it is it is very all
01:29:57 of all of Tor
01:30:01 law okay all of Torah is in very plain
01:30:04 language all of Torah is easy to
01:30:07 understand what makes it hard to
01:30:09 understand is people don’t want to
01:30:10 understand it it’s rebellion in their
01:30:12 hearts because they have an authority
01:30:16 problem yeah okay it’s a lot easier to
01:30:21 say to just say Christ is sufficient and
01:30:24 then just go about your
01:30:26 life it’s a lot easier to say that than
01:30:29 yeah I don’t know Salvation takes
01:30:34 effort yeah
01:30:37 does and so and now the so that’s one
01:30:41 thing now the next teaching is also
01:30:44 straight from
01:30:45 Torah and you must not argue with
01:30:48 whosoever wants to borrow from you the
01:30:51 Torah says You must even lend to the
01:30:53 poor if the seventh year is close and
01:30:55 you know that he will be unable to repay
01:30:57 you you don’t argue oh well uh we’re in
01:31:01 the sixth year I I can’t loan you that
01:31:03 money I won’t get
01:31:04 it so and another another thing to
01:31:07 consider is the attitude that so many
01:31:11 people take of you see somebody asking
01:31:14 for money on the side of the
01:31:16 road right yeah if you feel like you
01:31:19 should you should it doesn’t matter what
01:31:21 they’re going to use it
01:31:22 for
01:31:24 problem you also need to as uh mosiah 5
01:31:28 brings out you need to keep an account
01:31:30 whether if you can afford it or not
01:31:33 because first we need to take care of
01:31:34 our own family and the
01:31:38 tithing uh there’s two portions of
01:31:40 tithing that goes along with this
01:31:41 there’s a portion that goes to the valal
01:31:45 crease that they give out to the poor
01:31:47 and then there’s a portion that you
01:31:49 yourself are supposed to give out to the
01:31:51 poor but this is off your ser
01:31:54 plus so if you don’t have Surplus you
01:31:58 don’t have to worry about giving to the
01:32:00 poor right so that’s the first consider
01:32:04 the only consideration that should um
01:32:07 apply to whether you give a loan is can
01:32:09 I afford to yes of course it’s not it’s
01:32:13 not um gonna do what are they I’m I’m am
01:32:16 now going to uh I’m now entering into
01:32:18 the realm of mind reading and I know
01:32:20 exactly what they’re going to do with
01:32:22 this money when I give it to them
01:32:23 because I’m so special oh they’re going
01:32:25 to give it to drugs they’re they’re
01:32:27 going to buy drugs well not Dr some do
01:32:30 some don’t so yeah but but there’s that
01:32:35 con the membership of the church a lot
01:32:38 of them oh my gosh if I just give them
01:32:41 this money they’re just GNA go out and
01:32:43 buy alcohol and cigarettes and just
01:32:45 waste it and you know if you’re look I
01:32:50 sometimes yes that happens for sure
01:32:54 but that’s not place to decide but it is
01:32:57 the it is it is the beggar’s petition
01:33:00 right right you your place is not to ask
01:33:04 whether they are
01:33:05 worthy it’s your place to ask if you can
01:33:08 afford it and if you can’t afford it
01:33:09 you’d be like you tell the Lord I would
01:33:11 give if I had but I do not have it this
01:33:15 time yeah
01:33:17 so yeah yeah so yeah it’s not necessary
01:33:21 that somebody run faster than they have
01:33:24 strength because that actually leads me
01:33:25 back to the original proposition that I
01:33:28 was talking about uh where you know how
01:33:31 many uh Latter-Day Saints fantasize the
01:33:34 interview the private interview with god
01:33:38 um at Judgment Day where he cut where he
01:33:42 asked you remember that beggar that you
01:33:44 didn’t help what beggar you didn’t help
01:33:47 him that bigger you didn’t help you
01:33:51 didn’t what are you talking about I
01:33:53 don’t know
01:33:58 it’s utterly this idea of the judge this
01:34:01 idea of a private judgment interview
01:34:03 where God guilt trips the hell out of
01:34:05 you is
01:34:07 satanic no I I have a feeling if that if
01:34:10 the Judgment were happening it would not
01:34:12 necessarily be private it would be no it
01:34:15 definitely is if you are a sinner whose
01:34:18 sins are not covered by the blood of
01:34:20 Yeshua your judgment is public well even
01:34:23 if they are covered it’s public because
01:34:26 the punishment is there is none right so
01:34:31 they’re public in both cases right but
01:34:35 uh but in the case where it’s covered
01:34:37 it’s covered and it’s not brought up
01:34:40 again at the Judgment Day correct right
01:34:43 whereas if it’s not covered it’s going
01:34:47 to be on the it’s going to be on it’s
01:34:49 going to be on the billboard ticking
01:34:51 across this guy did this and this and
01:34:54 well yeah and the way it’s worded in the
01:34:56 scriptures is that it’s going to be
01:34:59 broadcast from the housetops right
01:35:02 that’s that’s what that’s why I said it
01:35:04 would be like the uh be like the Wall
01:35:07 Street ticker yeah yeah yeah and I’m
01:35:09 agreeing with you I’m just connecting it
01:35:11 to the language in the scriptures but I
01:35:14 going going along with the language and
01:35:16 the scriptures you will probably hear
01:35:18 depart from me uh yeah that’s uh Matthew
01:35:22 7 the last part of Tor so yeah depart
01:35:27 from me all you
01:35:31 who all you workers of in all you
01:35:34 workers of iniquity all you workers of
01:35:36 iniquity or in some translations ye
01:35:38 workers of
01:35:40 lawlessness which I actually like that
01:35:42 one better I think but I think it’s more
01:35:46 clear but
01:35:49 anyways so you know you can do all these
01:35:52 things that you thought were good but if
01:35:54 they weren’t according to the law you
01:35:55 were outside of the mind and will of God
01:35:59 yeah there we go so the point the point
01:36:03 is is that judgment is a public Affair
01:36:08 if you haven’t taken the time to if you
01:36:11 haven’t taken the time
01:36:13 privately to
01:36:15 settle your uh to settle your
01:36:20 grievances
01:36:22 against
01:36:26 with then they will be aired then those
01:36:29 grievances will be aired
01:36:33 publicly
01:36:36 yeah so the Hebrew gospel at least this
01:36:40 uh redition of it translation of it says
01:36:43 depart from me guilty ones full of
01:36:46 Corruption of
01:36:48 heart yeah y that one works
01:36:52 too in the same thing because Corruption
01:36:55 of heart is what causes us to believe
01:36:59 such abjectly false doctrines as the
01:37:03 suspension of the law
01:37:07 yeah no well it’s not a suspended law
01:37:10 it’s a higher law don’t you know because
01:37:13 we’re so worried to receive said higher
01:37:17 law you mean the higher law with lower
01:37:20 accountability yeah well I I like it to
01:37:24 home teaching and then
01:37:28 ministering higher law with lower
01:37:30 accountability yeah so I I know you’re
01:37:33 joking around but I I do feel like I
01:37:36 need to say higher law and lower law is
01:37:39 nowh in scriptures but that is a concept
01:37:42 in the
01:37:43 occult right
01:37:45 yeah right the hiring oh the runs deep
01:37:48 in the LDS church so uh yeah whatever
01:37:53 the higher you are in the occult the
01:37:56 higher your law is and the less
01:37:57 accountability you have know it actually
01:38:00 means you can sin and say well I’m
01:38:02 living the higher
01:38:05 law no but until until you get your
01:38:08 second anointing and then it doesn’t
01:38:09 matter what you do well there’s one well
01:38:13 according to the fal dc132 you can do
01:38:15 anything but uh murder inent blood so
01:38:18 there’s one thing you can’t do oh my bad
01:38:22 my bad anyways I don’t believe that do
01:38:25 but that is what it say in any event
01:38:27 they’re all damned anyway because
01:38:29 they’ve all shed in it’s of blood uh yes
01:38:32 yeshua’s because they’ve rejected him
01:38:34 but
01:38:36 anyways well he’s not the only one
01:38:40 though uh
01:38:41 yes much blood on their hands it’s not
01:38:44 even funny yeah
01:38:47 yeah which is seconding happen
01:38:52 so
01:38:54 what the rightness of people’s blood on
01:38:57 their hands is what’s going to cause the
01:38:59 fire and brimstone just before yeshua’s
01:39:01 Second
01:39:02 Coming yeah well I mean even if it is
01:39:05 just in the in the idea of you know Elma
01:39:09 you know how many souls he caused to
01:39:11 perish that’s spiritual blood on your
01:39:13 hands yeah yeah yeah it is yeah so it’s
01:39:17 it’s bad it’s
01:39:18 bad yeah anyway I have to go in a minute
01:39:22 to get to bed but yeah I just I just
01:39:25 wanted to recap that for you okay you
01:39:29 came in uh um let me pause okay okay