Scripture Study 2026-01-10 Samson, Lion, Honey a prophecy of Yeshua & Torah

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Showing how Samon, the Lion and the Honey is a prophecy of Yeshua’s death that is needed to give everyone Torah which goes along with John 16:7. Brennon published a resource about health and kosher teachings from the Bible. Honey represents Torah, one reason being they both never go bad. Honey is food in YHWH’s mind. We are to help each other come closer to Yeshua. Torah teach us how to be like Yeshua. Yeshua was the only one who had Torah written on His heart before He was born, next to that was John the Baptist. Scripture have case studies to help us better understand how YHWH wants us to act and do. We are to be open and honest about has happened in the past. We are to be interdependent upon each other as Paul and Joseph Smith taught. Samson’s 3 women have to do with the 3 2,000 periods. We are to bring people into the covenant. The flood and the second coming are used interchangeably. Marriage is symbolic of sanctification. Samson wrestled with YHWH as Jacob did. Jacob hip was wounded showing that he did not turn off YHWH’s path. Tizitizts are on the hips to remind us of YHWH’s Torah. Bringing up some ideas about not touching a dead body of an unclean animal. There is a cycle of three servants. Samson’s sins shadows how Yeshua took our sins upon Himself. Taking the honey in his hands shows how we are to do the works of Torah, then put it on the inside just as we are to do with Torah. Those who truly want to be like Yeshua find Torah sweet. The wicked hate Torah because it exposes their sins. The fruits in Lehi’s vision is works according to Torah. We are to love YHWH and others along with ourselves how YHWH wants us to do it. Prophet are bold, open and honest their words will pierce you. Sometimes people like truth before they learn it comes from the scriptures. Book of Mormon shows Torah is still valid after Yeshua’s death and resurrection. People, including LDS members, don’t like to be shown how they are not keeping scriptures. There are section in the D&C we don’t believe are valid. It’s important to help people with their questions in the moment. Leaders in YHWH kingdom serve. Expounding why 30 is symbolic of blood sacrifice. It is only because of Yeshua’s blood and righteousness that anyone can be saved. Only YHWH walking through the dead animals with Abraham shows that promise that will happen and not dependent upon others. Five goes along how we are saved by the grace of Yeshua. The smoking furnace and burning lamb going through the sacrifices teaches modalism. Explaining that John 16:7 is teaching that Yeshua needed to die such that all can have Torah. D&C (LDS 88:2-5) (RLDS 85) (1835 7) (1844 7) teaches that the second comforter is an IT and eternal life even sanctification. We are to be fully emersed in YHWH’s Torah. How the Father rules where the Church of the Firstborn is, teaches modalism. Both Yeshua and Torah are integral to salvation. Yeshua ratified Torah through His life and sacrifice. Without Yeshua’s atonement, there would be no hope. The ram caught in the thicket with Abraham and Issac is also a prophecy with John 16:7. We are commanded to ponder the scriptures. We are to have the scriptures teach us how to be like Yeshua.

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D&C (LDS 88:2-5) (RLDS 85) (1835 7) (1844 7)
A 2 Behold, this is pleasing unto your Lord [YHWH],
-B and the angels rejoice over you;
–C the alms of your prayers have come up into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth,
—D and are recorded in the book of the names of the SANCTIFIED,
—-E even them of the CELESTIAL world [system].
—–F 3 Wherefore, I now send [bestow] upon you ANOTHER COMFORTER,
——G even upon you my friends,
——-H that IT [not HE or I] may abide in your hearts [Torah is to be written on our hearts],
——–I even the Holy Spirit [Behavior] of promise [sanctification / baptism of the Holy Spirit / grace];
——-H which OTHER [ANOTHER] COMFORTER is the same that I [Yeshua] promised unto My [Yeshua] disciples,
——G as is recorded in the testimony of John [John 14 – 16].
—–F 4 This [ANOTHER] COMFORTER IS THE PROMISED which I give unto you of ETERNAL LIFE,
—-E even the GLORY of the CELESTIAL kingdom [glory];
—D 5 Which GLORY is that of the church of the Firstborn,
–C even of God [Elohim],
-B the holiest of all,
A through Jesus [Yeshua] Christ [the Messiah] His Son—

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00:00:02 Uh uh hi everybody. I guess it’s my turn
00:00:05 to do something today. Um so there’s
00:00:09 actually um Brennan uh has been working
00:00:13 on a kosher and health page. I think
00:00:15 that’s what he decided to call it. Um
00:00:18 and he let us uh review and help him out
00:00:23 a little bit and which I actually
00:00:25 learned some stuff there. Uh he he’s got
00:00:28 some good stuff there. Go ahead, Ben.
00:00:30 >> Yeah, if I may, I I do I was I was
00:00:33 really impressed with um how
00:00:37 thorough he was in his coverage of this.
00:00:40 >> Oh, yeah. Important topic.
00:00:44 >> Yes. Yeah, he did a very good job. Um
00:00:48 so, and we we all learned together as we
00:00:51 were editing through it. if it’s sad
00:00:54 that we didn’t do a recording of the
00:00:56 editing, but anyways, um because there’s
00:00:58 some good stuff there, right, that we
00:01:00 talked about while we’re going through
00:01:02 it.
00:01:04 >> But one of those things is honey. Okay.
00:01:09 Um
00:01:10 >> I like honey.
00:01:11 >> Oh, so do I. It’s sweet to the taste.
00:01:14 >> Absolutely. Moving on.
00:01:16 >> Um but I I I just I’ll just say this
00:01:19 real quick and I’ll get more into it
00:01:21 later. Honey is symbolic of Torah. Okay.
00:01:24 >> Yes, indeed.
00:01:24 >> Um and I’ll just say part of the reason
00:01:27 why is that um
00:01:31 uh honey never goes bad just like the
00:01:33 word of Yahw never goes bad.
00:01:37 >> Amen.
00:01:38 >> Um a and it’s fermented. Uh and that
00:01:42 fermentance causes air. And air also
00:01:45 goes with the wind and the breath that
00:01:47 goes along with
00:01:48 >> Yes. the the law, the Torah, and and the
00:01:51 longs where it should be. But anyways,
00:01:53 um we’re not going to get into that.
00:01:55 That’s something else. Maybe one of
00:01:57 these days I’ll get I’ll do a recording
00:01:59 about the symbolisms of flower, bees,
00:02:01 and honey. Um cuz that’s pretty deep,
00:02:03 too. But not today. So, but um one of
00:02:07 the health things that are somewhat
00:02:09 controversial for some people is honey.
00:02:13 Some people don’t think honey is valid
00:02:15 or sorry not the best word uh kosher or
00:02:19 food
00:02:21 >> u from Yahweh. Okay. And it is. And one
00:02:25 example to someone to show that is
00:02:28 Samson and the lion and the honey. Um
00:02:32 Brennan had some other examples that I
00:02:34 can’t remember off top of my head right
00:02:36 now.
00:02:38 Um but that’s uh fine. Um, but after the
00:02:43 night where we talked about the honey,
00:02:45 um, I I started thinking about Samsung,
00:02:49 the lion and the honey because I
00:02:50 suggested it and it it I’ve always
00:02:54 wondered about it and so it came up. So
00:02:57 I started thinking and
00:03:01 Yahweh gave me some insights that I’d
00:03:03 like to share tonight with everybody.
00:03:07 Um, I do think it would be uh first wise
00:03:11 to start uh go to the actual word. Um,
00:03:15 and start from there. Um, so I’m going
00:03:19 to bring up the scriptures. We’re going
00:03:21 to start in Judges 14. And guess what? I
00:03:24 didn’t have that memorized. I had to get
00:03:26 some help. Um, it’s we all help each
00:03:30 other and that’s what matters. Okay.
00:03:33 Nobody knows everything. Just like Paul
00:03:35 brings out, the hand and the foot help
00:03:37 each other. Okay.
00:03:38 >> Well, and and the other thing about that
00:03:41 is I don’t
00:03:44 it’s not it’s not important that one
00:03:47 person
00:03:49 know everything so much as that as that
00:03:54 you know who you can trust to help you
00:03:57 find it.
00:03:59 >> Yes. Um and I I actually find wisdom
00:04:02 that not
00:04:04 one individual other save one knows
00:04:07 everything.
00:04:09 >> It teaches us how to interact with
00:04:13 people and how we interact
00:04:16 uh helps us become like Yeshua if we’re
00:04:19 doing it according to his Torah. His
00:04:22 Torah teaches us how to be like him. Um
00:04:26 and um
00:04:31 we need this life
00:04:35 to come to understand why
00:04:39 his ways are actually so important and
00:04:42 actually very valid. The only one that
00:04:46 had it written on his heart before he
00:04:48 was born was Yeshua.
00:04:51 >> Next to that was John the Baptist. Okay.
00:04:54 Uh
00:04:57 but the only one was Yeshua. We even
00:05:01 John the Baptist with even how great he
00:05:03 was
00:05:06 needed mortality to help us
00:05:10 figure it out.
00:05:11 >> Yep.
00:05:14 these interactions are to help teach us
00:05:17 um and to reflect upon
00:05:21 um
00:05:23 and same with these histories that we
00:05:25 have and I don’t remember where
00:05:29 um but Paul in the New Testament in one
00:05:31 of his many letters brings out how the
00:05:34 histories are to teach us in uh of how
00:05:38 to act and how to be and and also to
00:05:40 teach us of the future that there’s
00:05:44 The scriptures are deep.
00:05:47 >> Yeah. When I when I see the scriptures
00:05:49 in the old when I see the histories in
00:05:51 the Old Testament, I see hundreds and
00:05:54 hundreds of case studies, things that
00:05:57 you can look at and say,
00:06:00 “Well,
00:06:02 they didn’t.” You know, most of the time
00:06:05 you’re looking at things where they
00:06:06 didn’t quite get it right,
00:06:10 >> but it that you can learn from that. You
00:06:13 can learn from it’s it’s far better, I
00:06:16 believe, to learn from the mistakes of
00:06:18 other people than to have to repeat
00:06:20 those mistakes and reinvent the wheel
00:06:22 yourself.
00:06:24 >> Yes. Yeah. And the scriptures are very
00:06:28 honest about the mistakes of the leaders
00:06:32 of the past. contrary to modern
00:06:35 churches, including the one I grew up
00:06:36 in. Okay? They love to hide it instead
00:06:40 of being open and honest, which is
00:06:42 contrary to the scriptures. Um,
00:06:45 >> and contrary to last week’s lesson, too.
00:06:48 But anyways, go ahead, Vin.
00:06:49 >> Okay. So, here’s a here’s something from
00:06:51 here’s something from late. Uh, the
00:06:54 inter the interactions with others and
00:06:56 relying on God and others is a is a mark
00:06:59 against the that of the doctrine of
00:07:01 self-reliance. if that makes sense.
00:07:04 >> Yeah. We’re supposed to be
00:07:06 interdependent. Uh which goes along with
00:07:08 Paul said, hand in the foot can’t say
00:07:10 they don’t need each other. Right.
00:07:12 >> Right.
00:07:14 >> Um I these people that think that
00:07:18 they’re they can do it all on their own.
00:07:22 Okay.
00:07:23 Well, I mean, it is possible for every
00:07:27 it is possible for every man to keep
00:07:29 Torah, but it’s made a heck of a lot
00:07:31 easier when you have a Torah brotherhood
00:07:33 that helps you to keep that helps you to
00:07:35 stay focused on keeping it.
00:07:38 >> Yes. A and
00:07:41 along with that uh the strength that
00:07:44 comes from being bound together
00:07:48 and working together, it makes it much
00:07:51 harder to break. Uh I I I know the word
00:07:56 That’s probably not the most
00:07:58 appropriate in today’s world.
00:08:00 is a bundle of sticks.
00:08:01 >> Bundle of sticks. Thank you. Um
00:08:06 uh it’s harder to break a bundle of
00:08:09 sticks than an individual stick. We are
00:08:12 to help each other.
00:08:13 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:14 >> Uh which goes along with how we’re
00:08:16 supposed to fellowship.
00:08:18 >> That’s actually a commandment to
00:08:20 fellowship. So
00:08:21 >> yeah, and and you know, we we can we can
00:08:26 always stand in and help one another. Um
00:08:32 help one another in our walk.
00:08:35 >> Joseph Smith said, “Let us take each
00:08:39 other by the hand and lead each other to
00:08:42 heaven.”
00:08:42 >> Yeah. Yeah. That’s one of my favorite
00:08:44 quotes, which is one I actually believe
00:08:46 is authentic. So,
00:08:49 >> um, but it just, uh, to all honesty,
00:08:53 um, I don’t always remember where some
00:08:55 histories are in the scriptures, and I,
00:08:57 I got help before we got this lesson.
00:09:00 Um, that’s fine.
00:09:03 >> Yeah.
00:09:04 >> What matters is that we help each other
00:09:06 through it.
00:09:07 >> Requiring help is not what disqualifies
00:09:10 one.
00:09:11 >> No. No.
00:09:12 >> To be a teacher. Because every even the
00:09:14 qualified teachers require help from
00:09:18 time to even the most qualified of
00:09:20 teachers I should say require help from
00:09:22 time to time.
00:09:24 And also that from the law the judges h
00:09:27 were required to have Levites to help
00:09:29 make sure everything was fine.
00:09:31 >> Yep.
00:09:32 >> Whether if the judge was a Levite or
00:09:33 not, they had to have help from others.
00:09:38 >> I It’s in the law.
00:09:41 >> Yeah.
00:09:41 >> To help each other. Um,
00:09:43 >> and it and it makes total sense.
00:09:46 >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um,
00:09:49 it it it helps bring out character and
00:09:52 it keeps you humble.
00:09:54 Lord knows I need that. But anyways, I’m
00:09:57 just kidding.
00:10:00 >> Um, so I I I think with that maybe we
00:10:02 could go into the scriptures, but I
00:10:05 think um Lake may want to say something.
00:10:08 So,
00:10:10 >> Oh, there we go. Ben, you want to do
00:10:11 that? Even Joseph Smith had help to make
00:10:14 sure he wasn’t preaching or prophesying
00:10:16 against Torah or scriptures.
00:10:17 >> Yeah. Um in fact, uh with Blake bringing
00:10:20 that out, uh it was Oliver Calry, right?
00:10:24 >> Yes.
00:10:25 >> Uh and it was a specific calling.
00:10:29 It was just not to be nice. It was
00:10:32 actually a specific calling. So that is
00:10:34 a very great point like that, that
00:10:35 you’re bringing out there,
00:10:38 >> right? It’s it’s in the modern
00:10:41 revelations known as the Doctrine of
00:10:43 Covenants.
00:10:45 >> Yeah.
00:10:46 >> And if you think that’s just Joseph
00:10:47 Smith making it up, it’s be kind of
00:10:49 funny for someone that everybody thinks
00:10:51 it’s so prideful to say, “Oh, yeah.
00:10:54 Here, help me make sure I stay correct.”
00:10:57 Right. I That’s not prideful.
00:10:59 >> That’s humility.
00:11:01 Um,
00:11:03 we can, uh,
00:11:05 >> so, uh,
00:11:06 >> we’ll know where it’s at in the Doctrine
00:11:07 of Covenants.
00:11:08 >> Do you remember?
00:11:10 >> We can go over that. Let’s go over that.
00:11:13 Um,
00:11:14 >> well, let’s just pause real quick. U,
00:11:16 go, let’s look that up.
00:11:19 >> Yeah, we’ll pause.
00:11:21 >> All right. So, uh, Brennan, uh, knew
00:11:26 where to find it. Uh so actually Brennan
00:11:29 will you read the verse uh DNC3523
00:11:35 >> and in as much as ye do not write behold
00:11:38 it shall be given unto him to prophesy
00:11:41 and thou shalt preach my gospel and call
00:11:43 on the holy prophets to prove his words
00:11:45 as they shall be given him. So this hymn
00:11:49 just to clarify is Joseph Smith. Okay.
00:11:53 Um, so Oliver Calvary is to keep Joseph
00:11:56 Smith in check.
00:11:58 >> It’s Sydney Rigdon, not
00:11:59 >> Oh, Sydney. Oh, sorry. Sydney Rigdon.
00:12:02 >> Yeah, Joseph Smith had multiple people
00:12:03 who were there to keep him in check. But
00:12:05 the reason the primary reason why Oliver
00:12:08 Cry was not one of those people was
00:12:11 because Oliver Cry did have a tendency
00:12:13 to become prideful.
00:12:16 >> Okay. He he was known to have said that
00:12:18 he did not know how the restoration
00:12:21 would have survived without him.
00:12:26 >> Well, I’ll tell you it didn’t survive
00:12:27 with him. So, anyways, that’s another
00:12:29 subject. Um
00:12:30 >> Yeah. So, but but that’s my point is
00:12:34 that he was he did have some pride.
00:12:38 >> Yeah. Yeah. Um so, I I’ll I’ll I’ll be
00:12:42 completely honest here. My church
00:12:43 history is not very good. So I
00:12:45 definitely rely on others on that. I
00:12:47 never wanted to study it. Um I I just I
00:12:51 like the DNC especially with John’s dis
00:12:53 uh DNC journey we do sometimes, right?
00:12:57 Um
00:12:59 >> and just for a little more on that
00:13:01 history.
00:13:02 >> Um that’s why uh Brigham Young could
00:13:07 play on that. people the people in the
00:13:12 church knew that Oliver Calvary had a
00:13:14 lot of pride and that’s one of the
00:13:15 things that Brigham Young was able to
00:13:16 play on in bringing about uh bringing
00:13:20 about and explaining his
00:13:22 excommunication.
00:13:24 >> Okay. All right. Uh so I’m sure he uh
00:13:29 did some extra perversions of it with
00:13:31 being Brigham Yong, but anyways. Well,
00:13:34 especially when you consider that
00:13:35 actually the reason that Oliver Cry
00:13:37 wasn’t present at his uh excommunication
00:13:40 hearing was because he was scared for
00:13:43 his life because of the Danites.
00:13:46 >> Oh, I I so I I and that could very well
00:13:51 be because I I know some stuff about the
00:13:53 Danites. I the stuff that church the
00:13:57 correlated church history anyways does.
00:13:59 It says that because he was busy doing
00:14:01 some other things and wasn’t able to
00:14:03 make
00:14:04 >> Well, yeah. Yeah, it’s a shitty
00:14:06 explanation. So,
00:14:08 >> okay. All right. I never trusted it. Um,
00:14:12 and I did my own research.
00:14:14 >> Oh, sure. You’re I will wholeheartedly
00:14:17 admit Ben’s way better at history than I
00:14:19 am, hands down. So,
00:14:22 >> Well, I just get this itch and I have to
00:14:23 scratch it.
00:14:24 >> Uh, sure. I I just get itches in other
00:14:26 places, so that’s fine. Um, we we have
00:14:30 different focuses. That’s all. That’s
00:14:32 >> it.
00:14:33 >> Okay. All right. So, let’s actually go
00:14:36 uh to the actual lesson now if that’s
00:14:38 okay.
00:14:39 >> Yeah. Sorry. Got a Yeah. Sorry about
00:14:42 that.
00:14:42 >> No, no, that that’s it’s good. These are
00:14:44 good points to bring out, right? That’s
00:14:46 fine.
00:14:46 >> Yeah.
00:14:47 >> Um, and I I will say
00:14:50 real discussions actually bring out real
00:14:53 information, right?
00:14:55 Mhm.
00:14:56 >> So, I I I I don’t like these things
00:14:59 scripted. I really don’t. Um,
00:15:01 >> well, I mean, yeah, we we a couple weeks
00:15:04 ago we started out on one topic and then
00:15:06 got sidetracked into something totally
00:15:08 different because I had a question that
00:15:10 just popped off that was kind of
00:15:13 zany and weird and and was bothering me
00:15:16 and and everyone took the time to answer
00:15:20 my
00:15:21 what’s you know to me was a very
00:15:25 bothersome question and um
00:15:28 >> when the answer when the answer. Uh when
00:15:31 uh John came forward with the answer, it
00:15:34 was like one of those things where it’s
00:15:36 like, well, we probably should have
00:15:38 known all along, but we didn’t know
00:15:40 until we did.
00:15:43 >> Right. Yeah. It’s just one of those
00:15:46 things.
00:15:47 >> It makes sense, right? So,
00:15:49 >> yeah.
00:15:52 >> Okay. So, with that, maybe uh shall we
00:15:55 start? Um, Andrew, are you able to read
00:15:59 verse one? Uh, well, we’ll read a couple
00:16:02 verses and we can stop and talk Psalm
00:16:05 and then after that I’ll bring out why
00:16:07 it’s important. Okay.
00:16:10 >> Yes, I can read.
00:16:11 >> Thank you.
00:16:12 >> Uh, and Samson went down to Timnath and
00:16:15 saw a woman and Timnath of the Daughters
00:16:17 of the Philistines. Oh,
00:16:19 >> okay. So, um, there’s a lot of stuff
00:16:22 going on here. Uh, one, this is the
00:16:25 first woman uh, of Samson, and this is
00:16:30 something we’ll have to get into another
00:16:31 time, but the three women uh, in the
00:16:34 scriptures that deal with Samson
00:16:37 actually have to do with the the three
00:16:39 2000 periods. I’m not going to get into
00:16:42 that right now. We’ll have to save that
00:16:43 for another time. But it’s something to
00:16:44 think about on your own
00:16:46 >> or or if
00:16:48 >> come come to us and I’ll do a teaching
00:16:50 on it.
00:16:51 >> This is the
00:16:54 Is he married to two of them?
00:16:57 >> Uh, so he doesn’t actually get married
00:17:01 to any of them from my understanding.
00:17:05 >> So the first one, there is a wedding
00:17:08 ceremony, but they don’t get married.
00:17:10 The
00:17:11 >> Okay.
00:17:11 >> Second one, which most people don’t talk
00:17:13 about, is a that um tries to sue
00:17:17 him. And the third one,
00:17:21 >> um,
00:17:22 >> I I think they just sleep together. I
00:17:24 don’t think they actually get married to
00:17:26 be honest.
00:17:27 >> Yeah.
00:17:28 >> Okay.
00:17:29 >> And that that one I will say goes with
00:17:32 the times of the Gentiles very well. But
00:17:35 anyway,
00:17:35 >> well, yeah, because uh yeah, because the
00:17:38 u the Gentile church definitely has not
00:17:42 married Yeshua.
00:17:44 >> Well, yeah. And then they’re trying to
00:17:45 take away the covenant uh for money. So
00:17:49 I’ll just leave it at that. Um
00:17:52 >> but um Brennan uh will you and this is
00:17:56 the first wife. Okay. Uh which actually
00:17:58 goes along with how things didn’t work
00:18:00 out because of the traditions of the
00:18:02 fathers and we’ll just leave it which is
00:18:03 like the first 2,000 years. Okay. So
00:18:06 will you read verse two Brennan for me?
00:18:10 And he came up and told his father and
00:18:12 his mother and said, “I have seen a
00:18:14 woman in Timnath of the daughters of the
00:18:17 Philistines. Now therefore get her for
00:18:19 me to wife.”
00:18:21 Uh so uh this has to go along with
00:18:25 getting married. Okay. And also
00:18:28 um part of this is how
00:18:32 um
00:18:35 we are to go bring people outside the
00:18:37 covenant into the covenant. Okay. So,
00:18:40 uh, missionary work. We’ll leave it at
00:18:42 that for now because I don’t want to
00:18:44 focus too much on these other ones. But
00:18:45 I do want to bring up how the kind of
00:18:47 the preamble is I think that’s the right
00:18:50 word. Um, is marriage here.
00:18:53 >> Well, yeah. And I do also think that
00:18:55 it’s really interesting that it that the
00:18:57 preamble points to
00:19:00 uh can kind of point to the um the
00:19:04 reminder that Yeshua gives Peter that
00:19:07 the gospel was always supposed to go to
00:19:09 the Gentiles.
00:19:10 >> Oh yeah. Always. It was uh and this goes
00:19:13 with Acts 10 for those who are not
00:19:14 aware. Um um so anyways um Josh, will
00:19:20 you read three?
00:19:22 >> Sure.
00:19:24 Then his father and his mother said unto
00:19:26 him, “Is there never a woman among the
00:19:29 daughters of thy brethren or among all
00:19:32 my people, that thou goest to take a
00:19:35 wife of the uncircumcised Philistines?”
00:19:38 And Samson said unto his father, “Get
00:19:40 her for me, for she pleaseth me well.”
00:19:44 Okay. So, um
00:19:47 just briefly, this actually has to do
00:19:50 with the second coming. Um so, the the
00:19:55 the first wife um actually has to do a
00:19:58 lot with the
00:20:00 first 2,000 years and the flood. Now, um
00:20:04 the both floods of water and fire and
00:20:08 brimstone are used interchangeably here.
00:20:10 Okay? So, this is somewhat getting into
00:20:13 the second coming and how um the
00:20:18 Gentiles aka
00:20:21 um
00:20:23 uh Ephraim has a big deal in that. Okay.
00:20:27 >> Yes.
00:20:28 >> So, there there’s a lot of mixing of
00:20:30 concepts here, but anyways, we’ll leave
00:20:33 it at that. But he’s like, I I I want to
00:20:36 bring uh the Gentiles into the covenant.
00:20:39 Okay.
00:20:40 Yeah.
00:20:41 >> Uh, Ben, will you read four?
00:20:44 >> Okay, let’s see here. But his father and
00:20:47 his mother knew not that it was of Ya
00:20:51 that he sought an occasion against the
00:20:53 Philistines, for at that time the
00:20:55 Philistines had dominion over Israel.
00:20:59 >> So, um, this has to do along how this is
00:21:02 part of the plan. Okay.
00:21:05 um and in in Samsung’s um case, it’s a
00:21:10 little different than the second coming,
00:21:12 but the principle is still the same.
00:21:14 Okay. Well, and I I do think that you
00:21:18 can make a connection to the fact that
00:21:22 Yoha has allowed so much confusion and
00:21:24 strife within the church
00:21:28 because in order to create
00:21:32 a in order for there to be an occasion
00:21:36 found.
00:21:37 >> Yes. Well, I completely agree. As in he
00:21:40 allowed as in going off of translation.
00:21:44 Yeah, I think allowed is probably a
00:21:45 better word for it, but
00:21:47 >> uh was it that’s Revelation 6 if I
00:21:49 remember correctly. Um uh when you go
00:21:52 look at the Greek Anyways, um but on the
00:21:56 second coming part, it does get into how
00:21:59 he destroyed uh mystery Babylon of the
00:22:03 time. Um,
00:22:05 >> yeah.
00:22:06 >> So, anyways, there’s a lot of parallels
00:22:09 going on here, but the main one, uh,
00:22:12 it’s about wanting to get into the
00:22:15 covenant uh, relationship of marriage,
00:22:18 which is symbolic of sanctification.
00:22:21 Okay.
00:22:24 >> So,
00:22:25 >> so symbolic of the covenant of w with of
00:22:27 Yahwa with his people.
00:22:32 >> Yes. um his diligent people. Um because
00:22:37 this will actually even get into the
00:22:39 parable of the 10 virgins. It is the
00:22:43 five that go into the wedding um
00:22:46 ceremony that are the sanctified because
00:22:48 they keep all ten commandments instead
00:22:50 of just the five that deal with how to
00:22:53 treat others where five are about how to
00:22:56 worship Yahw
00:22:58 >> and five are about how to treat others
00:23:01 and yourself.
00:23:03 And uh those who keep the five about how
00:23:08 to worship Yahweh also are keeping the
00:23:10 other five about how to take care of
00:23:14 their fellow men and themselves. Um so
00:23:16 they’re keeping all 10 instead of just
00:23:18 some of it. Okay.
00:23:19 >> Right.
00:23:20 >> Um so uh Josh, will you read uh oh five?
00:23:26 I got to remember my map. Sorry.
00:23:34 Sorry. What was that?
00:23:36 >> Well, you read five.
00:23:37 >> I got distracted. Read verse five.
00:23:39 >> Yep.
00:23:40 >> All right. Then went Samson down and his
00:23:43 father and his mother to Timnith and
00:23:46 came
00:23:48 you skipped a word there.
00:23:51 >> Where?
00:23:52 >> The vineyards. Did you say that?
00:23:54 >> No, he actually he had only read he’d
00:23:58 only read to Timnath. Oh, okay. I’m
00:24:00 skipping ahead. My bad.
00:24:01 >> You’re ahead. Uh, let me finish. And
00:24:04 then uh and then Yeah. And then Sam And
00:24:07 then went Samson down and his father and
00:24:09 his mother to Timnith and came to the
00:24:11 vineyards of Timnith. And behold, a
00:24:14 young lion roared against him.
00:24:18 >> Okay. So, this is getting more into the
00:24:20 point where I really want to talk about.
00:24:22 So first of all, vineyard has to do with
00:24:25 uh Yahweh’s um works, right?
00:24:31 >> What he wants to do
00:24:33 >> uh his land and his people um and
00:24:37 himself even, right?
00:24:39 >> Yeah. the vineyard the when when
00:24:42 vineyard when the vineyard is is used in
00:24:45 parables it’s often referring either
00:24:48 it’s often referring either to Zion the
00:24:51 world at large or the land in which his
00:24:54 people reside right so a lion had
00:24:59 multiple symbolic meanings here or not
00:25:02 here there’s only one here sorry about
00:25:04 that in general here the lion is um
00:25:09 Yahweh. Okay. Or or Yoshua. Which since
00:25:12 they’re the same person because of
00:25:14 modalism.
00:25:16 Uh pick which one you like the most.
00:25:18 Okay.
00:25:20 >> It’s the same person. The the the line
00:25:22 of Judah. Okay. That’s what it’s getting
00:25:24 at.
00:25:25 >> Mhm.
00:25:26 >> Okay. Uh Brennan, will you read six,
00:25:29 please?
00:25:33 And the spirit of the Lord came mightily
00:25:36 upon him, and he rent him as he would
00:25:39 have rent a kid. And he had nothing in
00:25:41 his hand, but he told not his father or
00:25:43 his mother what he had done.
00:25:46 >> Okay, so this is bringing out how Sam’s
00:25:49 son
00:25:50 um wrestled with this lion, right?
00:25:55 >> Well, and here’s the thing. Here’s what
00:25:57 I love that phrase right at the
00:25:58 beginning. And the ruach of Yah came
00:26:01 mightily upon him.
00:26:03 >> Mhm.
00:26:05 >> When you think about ruach means spirit,
00:26:08 it also means breath. It also means
00:26:10 wind.
00:26:11 >> It also which points to Torah.
00:26:14 >> Yes. Which points to Torah. And so this
00:26:18 is
00:26:20 what what this is revealing here is that
00:26:24 what is happening is
00:26:29 to is actually toric and it’s uh her
00:26:34 port and meaning.
00:26:37 >> Yeah. And there’s a purpose to it. It’s
00:26:39 not just some random thing, right?
00:26:42 >> Yeah. It’s not just something that
00:26:43 somebody thought would be a really cool
00:26:45 thing to have in a story.
00:26:47 >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is really cool
00:26:49 once, at least it was for me, once uh
00:26:52 Yahweh um showed me the keys here. Okay.
00:26:55 >> Yeah.
00:26:56 >> Um
00:26:56 >> but the point is is when you see the ru
00:27:00 of Yah
00:27:02 coming upon someone in these stories,
00:27:04 you need to prick your ears up and you
00:27:06 need to take notice.
00:27:07 >> Yeah. So, um, he wrestled with a lion is
00:27:14 what that’s basically saying there,
00:27:15 right?
00:27:16 >> Yeah.
00:27:17 >> So, um, and we’ll look into this more
00:27:20 later, possibly depending on time, but
00:27:22 in Genesis 32, I am going to say this is
00:27:26 like the wrestling that Jacob had with
00:27:29 the angel of Yahweh. Okay. Yeah.
00:27:32 >> Mhm.
00:27:34 >> Um so uh and he
00:27:38 overcame. Now the imagery used is
00:27:41 slightly different. Okay.
00:27:44 >> Where in Genesis 32 I’m just going to do
00:27:47 quickly and maybe we’ll have time to
00:27:49 read later. Um but um
00:27:53 uh his hip was wounded in Genesis 32.
00:27:58 Okay. And the reason this has important
00:28:00 is because the hip has to do with um the
00:28:05 path as in staying on it or going off of
00:28:08 it. It’s also where you put your tazits
00:28:11 or tassels which are to remind you to
00:28:15 stay within the bounds of Torah. Okay.
00:28:19 So
00:28:19 >> and not to pursue and not to pursue
00:28:21 after the lusts of your own eyes.
00:28:24 >> Correct. And that ends bringing out
00:28:27 actually
00:28:28 the description of why we wear them and
00:28:33 see them to what reminder they are for
00:28:37 in the scriptures and I can’t remember
00:28:41 what is it that one’s in numbers right
00:28:44 >> um
00:28:45 >> so um that I I I I mean I I wear them I
00:28:52 don’t wear I don’t have them like the
00:28:54 orthodox Jews I do a I currently do a
00:28:57 three strand braid with one blue because
00:29:02 the blue is the Torah and is supposed to
00:29:04 be integrated in you
00:29:06 >> inside of you, not just on the outside
00:29:08 making it look like it’s part of you as
00:29:10 the orthodox do. Okay, there there
00:29:12 there’s a lot of meanings to everything.
00:29:16 Okay. Um anyways, but this is uh six is
00:29:21 going about the wrestle like Jacob.
00:29:23 >> Mhm.
00:29:24 >> To wrestle with uh Yahw and man and to
00:29:29 overcome.
00:29:30 >> Now the way in the imagery that they’re
00:29:33 overcoming is slightly different.
00:29:37 >> It is the same thing.
00:29:39 >> Mhm.
00:29:40 >> Okay.
00:29:42 And then what did he do?
00:29:46 Uh, initially
00:29:48 he he still kind of kept it to himself,
00:29:51 right? He didn’t go tell everybody.
00:29:53 >> Mhm.
00:29:54 >> Later he it he does start telling his
00:29:57 parents that come from it, but that’s
00:29:58 kind of a natural thing here. But when
00:30:02 we first joined, there are people who
00:30:06 um have a harder time
00:30:09 sharing initially, right?
00:30:12 Um but later as they get stronger and
00:30:16 more courage that comes from following
00:30:19 Yahweh, they then go share it.
00:30:22 >> Yeah.
00:30:24 >> Um okay, let’s see. Uh Andrew, will you
00:30:27 read seven for us, please?
00:30:30 >> Yes.
00:30:31 Okay.
00:30:33 And he went down and talked with the
00:30:35 woman and she pleased Samson. Well,
00:30:39 >> so this uh is going back to uh desire of
00:30:43 being married.
00:30:45 Um and marriage goes with sanctification
00:30:49 which goes along with the overcoming
00:30:53 um Yah and man or wrestling with Yahw
00:30:57 and man and then overcoming, right?
00:31:00 Um, there’s probably a better way of
00:31:02 stating that. Sorry about that. Um,
00:31:05 >> which goes with sanctification.
00:31:07 Sanctification is where you actually
00:31:09 keep
00:31:11 >> your promise of repenting that you made
00:31:13 before you’re baptized.
00:31:17 >> Okay? Uh, and when you’re baptized, that
00:31:20 is justification, which goes with
00:31:22 engagement.
00:31:24 So, I I’ll read uh verse 8. Um, and
00:31:28 after a time he returned to take her and
00:31:31 he turned. So now they’re going to get
00:31:33 married, right? They got justified
00:31:36 and and now they’re going to get
00:31:37 sanctified and now it doesn’t happen and
00:31:40 there’s multiple things but anyways and
00:31:43 he turned aside to see the carcass of
00:31:46 the lion. So this is the overcoming that
00:31:48 he did right later after it’s been more
00:31:52 processed or as in gained the
00:31:55 understanding and courage. Okay.
00:31:57 >> Mhm.
00:31:59 >> The carcass of the lion. Behold, there
00:32:01 was a swarm of bees and honey in the
00:32:05 carcass of the lion.
00:32:07 >> So, go ahead.
00:32:09 >> Just something I don’t think I need to
00:32:12 point out that lions are not kosher.
00:32:15 >> Yeah. No, they’re not.
00:32:17 >> Um, and this but this honey, this swarm
00:32:21 of bees and honey is in this carcass of
00:32:24 the lion. We’re going to see what he
00:32:26 does with this. Um, which would be
00:32:30 which,
00:32:32 you know, if wi- which might be
00:32:35 considered by some to be a violation of
00:32:39 kosher law, but honey is honey itself is
00:32:43 not on kosher. It is food.
00:32:46 >> Yeah. And then on if you’re done, Ben,
00:32:49 sorry if I interrupted.
00:32:50 >> No, go ahead.
00:32:51 >> Okay. uh on not touching a dead carcass.
00:32:55 Um I need to I will be completely
00:32:57 honest. I need to do some more research
00:32:59 on that. That is not something I’m
00:33:01 passionate about, but I will bring
00:33:03 something out
00:33:05 um that um makes me know it’s not quite
00:33:11 the common interpretation.
00:33:14 John the Baptist
00:33:17 >> wore camel hair. Camel hair is symbolic
00:33:20 of righteousness.
00:33:22 We won’t get into that. But the reason
00:33:24 why this is important,
00:33:27 I camels are not kosher animals, so you
00:33:31 can’t eat them. And um there’s no way to
00:33:35 take the camel hair off of the camel
00:33:39 unless the camel’s dead.
00:33:43 Meaning someone touched that dead
00:33:46 carcass to get that camel hair. And
00:33:48 probably it was probably John the
00:33:50 Baptist to be honest because he didn’t
00:33:52 have money to trade.
00:33:53 >> Yeah.
00:33:54 >> Well, you know, if it’s just Now, one
00:33:58 could argue uh that if it’s just the
00:34:02 camel’s hair and not the camel’s eyed,
00:34:05 you could potentially shear
00:34:08 hair off of a camel that’s still alive.
00:34:11 >> But you’re still touch you’re touching
00:34:12 the carcass.
00:34:13 >> You’re still And you’re Well, if it’s
00:34:16 alive, it’s not a carcass. number one.
00:34:19 >> Oh, okay. I see your point. That’s
00:34:21 >> Yeah. So, you could shear the hair off
00:34:23 of a living camel.
00:34:26 Um
00:34:28 >> that would still have you touching an
00:34:29 unclean animal, which would leave you
00:34:31 unclean until the evening.
00:34:33 >> Yeah. But that’s ceremonial, not sin.
00:34:35 >> Yeah. That’s a ceremonial uncleanness.
00:34:38 >> So, that would that would be one way
00:34:41 that you could get your garment a camel
00:34:42 share.
00:34:46 That’s a very interesting thought. We’d
00:34:48 have to go.
00:34:50 That makes me wonder how many details of
00:34:53 the garment we have in the New
00:34:56 Testament, but we’re not going to
00:34:57 sidetrack on that.
00:34:59 >> That’s a different matter entirely.
00:35:00 Sorry.
00:35:00 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, but that that is
00:35:04 that’s intriguing, but we’ll leave it at
00:35:07 that. And there’s another instance that
00:35:10 Ben uh likes to talk about. I’ll let him
00:35:12 do that. Oh, which one was that?
00:35:14 >> Elijah.
00:35:16 >> Oh, yes. Elijah also wore a garment of
00:35:18 camel’s hair. Um, it is not stated that
00:35:21 it’s camel hide. It stated camel hair
00:35:24 again, just like John the Baptist. Um,
00:35:28 so, uh, I need to do a little more
00:35:30 research to find out if the word for
00:35:33 hide and the word for hair is exactly
00:35:35 the same in, uh, in the Hebrew. Maybe.
00:35:39 >> Well, that’s a very good point you
00:35:41 brought. I haven’t thought about that
00:35:44 point. So I I I guess I’m not very used
00:35:47 to wearing camel hair as John did. So
00:35:52 >> well, you know, it’s kind of like what
00:35:54 is wool?
00:35:57 >> Well, right, right, right. Uh it’s just
00:35:59 the hair. So
00:36:00 >> the hair of the sheep woven. It’s the
00:36:02 hair of the sheep spun together.
00:36:04 >> The various hairs spun together. So you
00:36:06 could do the technically I imagine you
00:36:09 could do the same thing with camel hair.
00:36:11 I met.
00:36:13 >> Yes. Uh the I I will admit though with
00:36:16 camel, the little bit I know about
00:36:18 camels, they don’t really grow hair like
00:36:21 that. So,
00:36:22 >> um actually, yes, they do. Actually,
00:36:25 yes, they do.
00:36:25 >> It depends on It depends on the breed of
00:36:27 the camel because there are several
00:36:29 different breeds of camel.
00:36:31 >> Oh, okay. Valid point. I I have a lot of
00:36:33 learning to do still. On just a quick
00:36:36 search, I’m seeing uh you absolutely can
00:36:39 make camel hair clothing without using
00:36:42 camel hide.
00:36:43 >> Absolutely.
00:36:45 >> Um so I don’t know.
00:36:48 >> Okay. So maybe that’s the answer. Uh we
00:36:50 need more research.
00:36:53 Um so uh that’s
00:36:58 the reason I have had some issues with
00:37:00 that interpretation in the past. It
00:37:01 sounds like maybe there’s uh some
00:37:03 answers to that. Uh, we need some more
00:37:05 research. We’re not going to do that
00:37:06 right now. So,
00:37:08 >> no.
00:37:08 >> Um, anyways,
00:37:10 >> but but here we have a uncontrovertible
00:37:13 dealing of honey in a comb on a carcass.
00:37:19 >> Yes. And and I I do know there’s debate
00:37:22 whether or not
00:37:25 um Samsung uh sinned in taking the
00:37:29 honey, not because it’s honey, but
00:37:31 because of where it was located. Okay. I
00:37:33 I I I’ll be honest. I don’t know. I
00:37:36 honestly don’t know right now.
00:37:37 >> Well, it just added to the long laundry
00:37:40 list of sins of Samson.
00:37:42 >> Uh yeah, I I mean if if there’s any sins
00:37:46 that we should be more worried about is
00:37:47 that
00:37:48 >> now the the interesting thing about
00:37:50 Samson is that he is a redeemer.
00:37:54 >> Yes. So, you want to clarify that, Ben,
00:37:56 or do you want me to? There’s there’s a
00:37:58 cycle. Yes. There’s a there’s a cycle of
00:38:01 there’s a cycle of servants in uh
00:38:07 >> in Yas pattern and
00:38:09 >> three servants. So anyways,
00:38:11 >> it’s a cycle of three. Yeah. And the
00:38:14 first one is the uh messenger
00:38:19 the the me the messenger the messenger
00:38:23 of the covenant. The second one is the
00:38:26 preparer of the way
00:38:31 and the third one is the redeemer of the
00:38:34 promise.
00:38:37 Um
00:38:39 and so in this particular cycle, Samson
00:38:42 is the redeemer of the promise and he
00:38:45 does break the power of the Philistines
00:38:47 at the temple.
00:38:49 >> Yes. And um
00:38:51 >> interestingly enough, in shadow of
00:38:53 another redeemer
00:38:55 who took all of our sins upon him,
00:38:59 Samson committed practically every sin
00:39:01 possible against Torah.
00:39:04 >> Uh yes. Uh going along with what Ben’s
00:39:07 bringing out is how the Messiah took our
00:39:09 sins upon himself, right?
00:39:13 >> Yeah. And so Samson actually does
00:39:16 provide a very um
00:39:20 a very unexpected
00:39:23 teaching regarding the mission of uh
00:39:26 Yeshua in his first in his mortal
00:39:28 ministry.
00:39:29 >> Yes, I I completely agree. Um yeah. Um,
00:39:35 and I think that’s very good that you
00:39:36 brought that out here, Ben, because it
00:39:39 it
00:39:41 although sometimes these stories seem
00:39:43 very controversial,
00:39:45 like hell um um in fact, that’s more
00:39:50 just controversial. I’m controversial,
00:39:52 but this history of Samsung is very
00:39:55 controversial because he was a
00:39:56 controversial um person just as Yoshua
00:39:59 was, but in different ways, right? Like
00:40:03 I say, he’s a judge and yet here he is
00:40:06 flouting practically every law of Torah.
00:40:08 >> Yeah. Well, he did repent later before
00:40:10 he became a judge. So,
00:40:12 >> um
00:40:14 he’s he he’s gone through
00:40:18 an interesting learning process and I
00:40:21 just as I have. Okay.
00:40:23 >> Um and probably it’s just as if all in
00:40:26 varying degrees. So there’s it the
00:40:29 problem is not our past. The problem is
00:40:33 who we are becoming.
00:40:37 >> So, um, okay, with that, I actually
00:40:40 forget where we’re at. Does any
00:40:42 >> It’s in verse We’re in verse eight.
00:40:46 >> Uh, there was a swarm of bees and in the
00:40:49 carcass of the lion. Bees uh represent
00:40:52 um represent the work represent the
00:40:55 priesthood.
00:40:56 >> Correct. And honey represents the uh
00:41:00 represents Torah
00:41:03 >> u within the carcass of the lion of
00:41:06 Judah. The lion
00:41:09 >> Yeah. Go ahead.
00:41:10 >> The lion of Judah, Yeshua, is Torah
00:41:13 personified.
00:41:14 >> Correct. And and and I I’ll be honest,
00:41:16 you could even take this back to Genesis
00:41:19 where the rib the law
00:41:22 >> Oh, wait a minute.
00:41:23 >> made the woman the church. meaning the
00:41:26 church is made of those who keep Torah.
00:41:31 >> Oh, this here’s something else really
00:41:33 interesting.
00:41:35 And of course, check me on this, but
00:41:38 since it’s the bees and the honey that’s
00:41:41 inside the lion, Yeshua then would also
00:41:44 be the priesthood
00:41:47 incarnate.
00:41:48 >> Yes. which goes along with the MKSC
00:41:50 priesthood that he needed to have to do
00:41:53 the offering that he did.
00:41:55 >> Um because he was the offering and the
00:41:57 priest but as Hebrews bring or the book
00:42:00 of Hebrews brings out.
00:42:02 >> So
00:42:03 >> uh well I let me do a little more
00:42:05 reading or let us do a little more
00:42:06 reading and
00:42:09 >> plug it up. Um, I I do want to focus on
00:42:12 eight uh in a minute, but I do want to
00:42:14 add a little more of the context going
00:42:16 on because I think if I remember right,
00:42:18 we want to go to 11 here. Um,
00:42:22 >> so I I’ll read nine.
00:42:26 >> He Samsung took
00:42:29 all right.
00:42:31 >> I’m gonna pause for just a second.
00:42:34 Sorry.
00:42:35 >> That’s fine. Oops. Wrong button.
00:42:37 >> Okay. You’ve got a plug in.
00:42:40 Okay. So, I’m going to read verse nine.
00:42:44 And he Samson took thereof in his hands.
00:42:48 Uh and hands goes along with works
00:42:50 symbolically. Okay.
00:42:52 >> So, he takes the Torah, the honey in his
00:42:54 hands.
00:42:56 >> Yes.
00:42:57 >> His works. And he took it. It’s
00:43:00 something that he actually did and
00:43:03 worked on like enduring.
00:43:05 >> Look, wait a minute. It says as much in
00:43:07 the next stanza and went on eating.
00:43:12 >> Well, in
00:43:14 >> how dare you read forward.
00:43:18 >> No, I’m kidding. But yes, as as Josh is
00:43:22 bringing out, he took this honey and
00:43:25 took it inside of his inards and put it
00:43:28 on his inards.
00:43:31 >> Wait a minute. Does that sound like how
00:43:32 we’re supposed to write Torah upon our
00:43:34 heart? And doesn’t that sound like how
00:43:37 Yeshua was the only person who was born
00:43:41 with Torah on his heart.
00:43:43 >> Correct.
00:43:45 I And when we’re born again,
00:43:49 that’s what we start doing is writing it
00:43:52 upon our hearts.
00:43:54 >> Mhm.
00:43:56 >> So he ate Torah and he found it as um
00:43:59 scriptures and Joseph Smith said, “It is
00:44:02 sweet.” It really is. I I know
00:44:08 those that have no light in them and
00:44:11 referring to Isaiah 8, they hate it
00:44:15 because it exposes their sins that they
00:44:19 love more than Yahweh just like Cain
00:44:22 loved their his sin more than Yahweh.
00:44:27 Mhm.
00:44:27 >> Um but when you
00:44:31 open yourself up and soften your neck,
00:44:36 um
00:44:39 there is much wisdom. In fact, is it
00:44:43 Psalms and Proverbs brings out how the
00:44:45 beginning of wisdom is Torah? It really
00:44:48 is. It
00:44:50 >> it it has so many solutions to all the
00:44:56 problems of that’s in the world today.
00:45:00 >> But
00:45:02 let me finish one last thing, Ben, and
00:45:03 then I’ll give it to you. Okay. Uh
00:45:05 Matthew 24, Yeshua brings out how uh
00:45:10 people’s hearts will go cold. Look at
00:45:12 the world today. They’re very cold. Oh,
00:45:16 it’s it’s tragically cold
00:45:19 >> because they reject Torah now. Yes, it
00:45:22 says law in the translation English
00:45:24 translation. You go look at the Greek
00:45:26 word and you go look at how the Greek
00:45:27 word points to Torah.
00:45:29 >> I I it’s Torah.
00:45:32 >> Mhm.
00:45:33 >> So, go ahead, Ben. I finished my
00:45:34 thought.
00:45:35 >> Okay. So this is um this is just uh
00:45:38 something that Lake put forward that
00:45:40 perhaps we could liken the honey and the
00:45:42 honey and the carcass to the fruit in
00:45:45 Lehi’s dream.
00:45:46 >> Yes, it is. In fact, fruit are the works
00:45:49 according to Torah.
00:45:52 >> Yeah.
00:45:53 >> Um when you
00:45:56 >> when you um partake of Yahweh’s
00:45:59 goodness, you start becoming like him,
00:46:01 which means you act like him, you behave
00:46:04 like him. and you’ve taken your his name
00:46:07 or character upon you so you would do
00:46:10 what he would do in the same
00:46:12 circumstance
00:46:14 >> just to act righteously.
00:46:16 >> Yeah. And the way you know that you
00:46:18 would do what he would do in the same
00:46:20 circumstance is because you are doing
00:46:22 it.
00:46:23 >> Yeah.
00:46:25 Um
00:46:27 it’s not about what Yeshua did do. It’s
00:46:30 what Yeshua is doing.
00:46:32 >> Mhm. uh himself and through us
00:46:35 >> by
00:46:37 his law for those who listen and abide
00:46:42 and guard his law and guard it is more
00:46:45 than just doing it yourself.
00:46:47 It is to help others to do it also. And
00:46:50 and even Joseph Smith’s uh statement how
00:46:53 we’re supposed to abide the Book of
00:46:55 Mormon, the the definition of abide has
00:46:58 the same stuff as guarding, is doing
00:47:00 yourself and helping others to do the
00:47:02 same, which actually is the purpose of
00:47:05 life.
00:47:06 >> Yeah.
00:47:07 >> And it’s the purpose of all callings.
00:47:08 It’s just a question of how many uh to
00:47:11 how big your umbrella is.
00:47:13 >> Yes.
00:47:14 >> Right. Right.
00:47:16 >> Okay. So,
00:47:18 >> it’s actually
00:47:21 When you boil it down,
00:47:24 it’s pretty simple.
00:47:27 Love Yahweh the way that he wants to be
00:47:29 loved and love others the way that
00:47:32 Yahweh and yourself. Sorry. Uh how
00:47:35 Yahweh wants you to do it. Not your own
00:47:38 ideas,
00:47:40 >> the way that he states.
00:47:42 >> And I don’t know about you. I’m almost
00:47:44 done. Um he’s more wise than I am.
00:47:47 >> Oh, absolutely.
00:47:49 Go ahead, Ben.
00:47:50 >> He’s more wise than me, too. Um, yeah, I
00:47:54 there’s something that there’s something
00:47:56 really cool also coming up in this
00:47:58 verse.
00:48:00 He’s eating the Torah
00:48:02 or he’s eating the honey and he came to
00:48:05 Pat and came to his father and mother
00:48:07 and he gave to them.
00:48:11 And this is pointing back to that thing
00:48:13 that he’s talking about our purpose in
00:48:15 life to live Torah and help other people
00:48:17 to do the same thing.
00:48:19 >> U now, interestingly enough, this honey
00:48:22 from this carcass is breaking Torah. But
00:48:27 >> that’s debatable. We’ll leave it at
00:48:29 that. I I at least for me it is. I I
00:48:32 need to do more research. But anyways,
00:48:35 >> yeah. But and and here’s now I don’t I
00:48:40 think this is important for the story
00:48:44 for the story of Samson. I don’t know
00:48:45 how important it is to the analogy. It
00:48:48 says but he told them that he had taken
00:48:51 that he told them not told not them that
00:48:53 he had taken the honey out of the
00:48:55 carcass of the lion.
00:48:56 >> Well actually that would kind of point
00:48:58 to the fact it is breaking Torah. Um, so
00:49:02 good point there, Ben, cuz um,
00:49:06 uh, that would bring out that the reason
00:49:08 they took it cuz they didn’t know where
00:49:10 it came from. Right.
00:49:12 >> Right. And he
00:49:13 >> That is an interesting point.
00:49:14 >> He purposefully left that out
00:49:17 >> because he knew they wouldn’t eat it if
00:49:19 they knew where it had come from.
00:49:21 >> Yes. So that that is a valid point that
00:49:23 we need to keep in point when we go
00:49:26 study that um interesting Torah law that
00:49:29 I we at least I need to study some more
00:49:31 on. Right.
00:49:32 >> Mhm.
00:49:33 >> Um so that that’s a very good point
00:49:35 there.
00:49:36 um because I I will just say this um to
00:49:40 understand
00:49:42 uh a Torah completely. We need, as in
00:49:46 Ben’s words, look at the case studies
00:49:50 that’s within the scriptures. And this
00:49:51 is an interesting case study we need to
00:49:53 take into account, right? We’ll just
00:49:56 leave it at that.
00:49:56 >> That that helps. You really get a
00:50:00 greater understanding of Torah when you
00:50:02 understand these stories. Not when you
00:50:05 understand these stories in the light of
00:50:07 a case study and you’re looking at um
00:50:10 okay this is some of these things are
00:50:12 descriptive some of these things are
00:50:14 prescriptive some some of it some of it
00:50:17 is meant for us to replicate some of it
00:50:20 is like well here’s a cautionary tale.
00:50:24 >> Yeah. So uh while Ben was talking I saw
00:50:27 Lake said something and so I’ll read it
00:50:29 since Ben was talking. Uh, so this is
00:50:32 like just like Lehi beckoned in a loud
00:50:35 voice for his family to partake of the
00:50:38 Torah as well, I guess. Yes. Um,
00:50:42 prophets are bold. They’re they don’t
00:50:46 pussyfoot around the issues.
00:50:50 They’re bold, open, and honest.
00:50:54 And what their words say will pierce
00:50:57 you. The question is,
00:51:00 will you change
00:51:02 >> or will you fight against it?
00:51:07 >> His next comment actually speaks to the
00:51:09 allegorical level
00:51:12 >> of um
00:51:14 of this of this story where he’s he
00:51:17 doesn’t tell them that the honey came
00:51:19 out of the carcass of the lion.
00:51:23 Even when it even when our even when our
00:51:27 stuff comes from the scriptures if they
00:51:29 or from people who study the scriptures
00:51:32 when we tell people where we are coming
00:51:35 forward coming with ideas from
00:51:38 they often don’t like the idea just
00:51:41 because of where it came from. Oh yeah I
00:51:43 so I used to do stuff in uh Torah groups
00:51:47 I I would bring things out that I
00:51:49 learned from the Book of Mormon. They
00:51:50 loved it until I told them where it came
00:51:52 from.
00:51:54 >> Yeah.
00:51:55 >> Yeah.
00:51:56 >> The Book of Mormon is a great commentary
00:51:59 on Torah before the resurrection and
00:52:03 even after as I have a recording on it
00:52:06 shows that Torah is still valid and I’ll
00:52:09 put that in the links in the
00:52:11 >> and there there is a case to be made
00:52:15 for not always saying everything that
00:52:18 you know. Uh yeah. Yahweh doesn’t always
00:52:21 say everything. And there’s examples of
00:52:22 that in the Exodus and the um
00:52:26 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:27 >> The hand No, the the the ones that help
00:52:30 with birthing. I forget their names.
00:52:32 >> The midwives.
00:52:33 >> The midwives. Yes. Thank you.
00:52:35 >> Um anyways,
00:52:38 Brandon, you wanted to say something?
00:52:43 >> Oh, no.
00:52:44 >> No.
00:52:45 >> Oh, okay. Okay. Um, I was just I was
00:52:49 just going to say that um
00:52:52 uh you know even there so there may
00:52:56 sometimes be wisdom in teaching people
00:52:58 the truths of Torah
00:53:02 um
00:53:06 and uh and for and and getting them to
00:53:10 experience some of the fruit of Torah in
00:53:12 their lives and getting as a means to
00:53:15 getting them towards
00:53:16 embracing Torah before you tell them
00:53:19 that it’s Torah.
00:53:21 >> Yeah. So, this is a judgment call andor
00:53:24 revelations, right? Um so, use your
00:53:28 wisdom.
00:53:29 Uh because ultimately, it it’s best to
00:53:33 get them to keep it.
00:53:34 >> Um and sometimes after they keep it,
00:53:37 then they’re probably be more open to
00:53:39 where it came from. Um
00:53:42 >> because people I will say I think they
00:53:45 have an allergic to the word Torah
00:53:47 sadly.
00:53:49 >> Um
00:53:51 >> uh where some people actually just hate
00:53:53 it period because it exposes their sins
00:53:56 where some they just don’t like the
00:53:58 word. So but use some wisdom there. So
00:54:02 anyways
00:54:03 >> um so I think on we’re verse 10.
00:54:07 >> 10. Yep, we’re on verse 10. Uh Josh,
00:54:10 will you read that?
00:54:12 >> Sure. So his father went down onto the
00:54:16 woman and Samson made there a feast or
00:54:20 so used the young men to do.
00:54:23 >> So this has to do the wedding feast.
00:54:26 Okay.
00:54:26 >> Yep.
00:54:27 >> Which I would go along with uh what I
00:54:30 believe is going on going with
00:54:32 sanctification here, right? Um, so I do
00:54:36 believe there’s multiple things going
00:54:38 inside of 8 and 9. Uh, and I’ll bring
00:54:40 this part out right now and I’ll bring
00:54:42 out more in a little bit that uh Samsung
00:54:46 uh would eventually get sanctified. But
00:54:50 the imagery here is sanctification and
00:54:51 going sharing it with others. Okay.
00:54:53 >> Right. Okay.
00:54:55 >> So, uh, Ben, will you read 11, please?
00:55:00 >> Okay. And it came to pass when they saw
00:55:03 him that they brought 30 companions to
00:55:05 be with him. Now, that’s a very
00:55:06 interesting number.
00:55:09 >> Do you want to talk about the number or
00:55:10 you want me to?
00:55:11 >> You go ahead and talk about it. I’m
00:55:12 responding to Lake’s comment.
00:55:14 >> Uh, okay. Uh, so, okay, go ahead and
00:55:17 read Lakes’s comment and then we can do
00:55:19 the number.
00:55:20 >> Okay. The comment is usually I’m sharing
00:55:22 stuff from Book of Mormon and Bible and
00:55:25 that’s what I say and they don’t like it
00:55:27 because it’s against the LDS church and
00:55:30 >> and I’m just saying the LDS don’t like
00:55:32 being shown that they can’t keep their
00:55:34 own scriptures.
00:55:35 >> Oh yeah. Um,
00:55:39 early in my waking up,
00:55:42 >> I would find lots of Book of Mormon
00:55:44 verses that I would just share without
00:55:46 any commentary, but I would bold some
00:55:48 few words inside of it to add some
00:55:51 emphasis.
00:55:53 People didn’t like it. Um, it the the
00:55:58 the thing that woke me up to the LDS
00:56:00 church is how they were actually going
00:56:02 against what the Book of Mormon teaches
00:56:04 as Brennan is bringing. I mean sorry
00:56:06 lake is bringing out sorry about that
00:56:08 lake uh that lake is bringing out there.
00:56:11 Um they they follow the arm of flesh
00:56:14 over the word of yah including modern
00:56:18 word of yah including uh the dn which
00:56:22 there cannot be any excuse for not
00:56:26 following to be honest. Um
00:56:28 >> yeah and boy do they not follow that.
00:56:31 >> Uh it depends on which section.
00:56:34 Oh, that’s true.
00:56:35 >> Oh, yeah. Because there are some
00:56:37 sections uh our group does not believe
00:56:39 are valid. I have a list
00:56:41 >> totally live by.
00:56:43 >> Yeah, that I I’ll add a link to that
00:56:45 list. Um some of them we have commentary
00:56:47 on and some we do not. It’s not that
00:56:50 we’re trying to hide anything. It just
00:56:52 takes time to do it well. So,
00:56:54 >> we don’t we don’t we haven’t had the
00:56:57 time to do commentaries on all of the
00:57:01 erroneous sections.
00:57:03 >> Yeah. A and sometimes it’s fun to work
00:57:05 on some other things that just happen.
00:57:07 >> Yes. Yes. Yes.
00:57:08 >> So it’s but if you have questions come
00:57:13 and I do take Moroni in this group and
00:57:16 uh takes Moroni 69 very seriously.
00:57:18 Basically we focus on what is needed.
00:57:22 It’s not pre-planned years in advance.
00:57:24 Okay.
00:57:26 Um,
00:57:27 >> yeah, not even our uh not even our uh
00:57:30 high holiday meetings are actually
00:57:32 pre-planned years in advance.
00:57:34 >> They’re planned like a week in advance.
00:57:36 So, yeah. Um, but I I will admit on high
00:57:41 holiday ones and sometimes when I do
00:57:44 movie commentaries, those are planned in
00:57:46 advance, but it’s completely open and
00:57:49 honest or open for people to make
00:57:52 commentary and help out, right? um
00:57:54 >> or or even direct the lessons, which
00:57:57 hasn’t happened thankfully, but
00:58:01 >> yeah, I we’re we’re I I try to keep
00:58:03 things pretty open and honest because I
00:58:05 feel it’s more important to help the
00:58:08 people that have needs in the moment
00:58:10 than to sound intelligent and important
00:58:13 because I’m really not that important.
00:58:15 Uh if you don’t believe me, go look at
00:58:17 my YouTube numbers.
00:58:21 >> That’ll humble you.
00:58:24 I I want to help people. It’s not about
00:58:26 being important. Um
00:58:27 >> yeah.
00:58:28 >> And along those lines, Yeshua stated to
00:58:30 the apostles when the while they were
00:58:32 learning
00:58:35 the greatest in the kingdom serve.
00:58:38 >> Yeah. Stephen,
00:58:39 >> they don’t glorify themselves, they
00:58:42 serve.
00:58:45 >> Yeah. So, like Stephen was saying, he’s
00:58:48 not that important and I’m not that
00:58:49 intelligent. So, between the two of us,
00:58:51 we cover it all.
00:58:54 There you go. There you go. All right.
00:58:57 >> Hey, as Blake said, your fruits.
00:59:02 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That’s That’s right.
00:59:05 to uh when my mom’s bishop interrogated
00:59:08 me. So, any I’ll leave funny.
00:59:13 >> Um so, um
00:59:16 >> the more popular it is, the more true it
00:59:19 is.
00:59:20 Uh, you’re with the wrong D group, John.
00:59:22 >> Oh, my bad. I think you need to I think
00:59:24 you need to join the Catholic Church.
00:59:27 >> Uh, are you quoting me, Ben? Sorry.
00:59:31 >> No, I’m I if I was, I’m not aware of it,
00:59:34 but um
00:59:35 >> Well, just because of the recording of
00:59:36 the the bishop
00:59:39 say that actually I was just thinking
00:59:42 about uh which w which is the most
00:59:44 numerous C Christian denomination. Okay.
00:59:46 Catholic. Okay, there you go.
00:59:47 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:49 Okay. Uh I I’ll read 11. And it came to
00:59:53 pass when they saw Samson that they
00:59:55 brought Oh, actually that was already
00:59:57 read. I’m so sorry. But 30. So I think
01:00:00 we need to talk about 30. 30 is symbolic
01:00:03 of blood sacrifice. So here they are
01:00:06 getting to the wedding. What makes the
01:00:09 wedding possible is Yeshua’s
01:00:12 atonement and shedding of his blood that
01:00:15 covers us. uh such that when we go to
01:00:20 judgment day,
01:00:23 it is Yeshua’s blood or life that is
01:00:26 seen to bring us into the kingdom, not
01:00:30 our own. Because I don’t know about
01:00:32 anybody else,
01:00:34 >> I have sinned and I deserve death and
01:00:38 hell.
01:00:40 >> It’s only because of his righteousness,
01:00:42 his blood, his blood offering
01:00:46 >> Mhm. that I can.
01:00:47 >> Okay. So, how does 30 represent that?
01:00:51 >> Um I How about you explain it for us,
01:00:54 Ben?
01:00:56 >> Um
01:00:58 I don’t remember. That’s the issue.
01:01:00 >> Okay. All right. So, um so there’s
01:01:03 multiplication going on here. Um three
01:01:07 has to do with Torah. So does 10. Uh so
01:01:13 the this had the three part has to do
01:01:16 with the the members of the godhead.
01:01:18 There’s the father, son, and holy
01:01:20 spirit. Holy spirit is Torah. Okay. 10
01:01:26 is uh ordinal perfection which is Torah
01:01:29 which is why there’s 10 divisions inside
01:01:31 of Torah. All so Yeshua brings out how
01:01:35 there is um two divisions. Love Yahweh
01:01:39 and love yourself and your neighbor.
01:01:42 Okay?
01:01:44 And each each of those divisions have
01:01:47 five each.
01:01:49 >> So there’s 10. The ordinal perfection.
01:01:52 >> It is because and now it’s double. It’s
01:01:55 justification and sanctification.
01:01:58 Mhm.
01:01:58 >> It is because of Yeshua
01:02:02 keeping Torah that makes it that we can
01:02:04 go back to him which is actually what
01:02:07 we’ll get to in 8 in a little bit. Okay.
01:02:10 So,
01:02:10 >> and yeah, and it’s his death, blood
01:02:14 sacrifice
01:02:16 and resurrection
01:02:19 that makes it possible for us to be
01:02:21 anything other than devil’s servant to a
01:02:23 devil.
01:02:24 >> Yes. So that blood sac so that blood
01:02:27 sacrifice was what
01:02:31 was the solution to the Toric dilemma
01:02:35 presented to Yah
01:02:40 and and Yahweh uh who is Yeshua who is
01:02:44 the father figured out how to get all
01:02:46 the pieces of the puzzle to work. Um,
01:02:49 and this uh verse eight somewhat deals
01:02:52 with that in a minute and which we’ll
01:02:53 get to in a minute. Um, but uh I do want
01:02:57 to bring out how blood is symbolic of
01:03:00 life.
01:03:02 >> Instead of doing um other things
01:03:09 >> he gave his life for us. Mhm.
01:03:13 >> And about this um this blood sacrifice
01:03:17 being the means whereby we are covered
01:03:20 and allowed to take advantage of the
01:03:23 atonement. We can go to the land
01:03:26 covenant between Yah and and Abraham
01:03:33 uh in Genesis
01:03:35 where
01:03:36 >> do you have a verse you want me to bring
01:03:38 up for you or
01:03:41 >> I’ll pause a minute while Ben’s figuring
01:03:43 that out so we’re not getting dead time.
01:03:49 >> Okay. So, it’s like I said, it’s not so
01:03:52 much a matter of knowing
01:03:54 exactly where it is as having a general
01:03:57 idea and good people who can help you
01:03:59 find it. Um, and here in Genesis chapter
01:04:03 15, as I was talking about the um the
01:04:07 reference to the blood sacrifice as the
01:04:11 uh as the seal as the sealing factor in
01:04:14 the marriage.
01:04:18 Similarly,
01:04:19 Yoha requires a when when when Abraham
01:04:24 comes under the covering of Yah
01:04:28 uh it’s through the means of a blood
01:04:30 sacrifice.
01:04:31 Um
01:04:33 now it’s very important there’s some
01:04:36 there’s some information that’s very
01:04:39 important
01:04:41 um to understand as we go into this
01:04:45 section of scripture. And that is how
01:04:48 blood this is how land covenants were
01:04:52 ratified between two parties
01:04:56 in the Middle East.
01:04:59 And that is that the two parties would
01:05:01 bring um
01:05:04 they would bring uh this and this is
01:05:07 what they would bring what Yoha tells
01:05:10 them to bring uh the the heer goat,
01:05:13 turtle, dove, and young pigeon. And they
01:05:16 would break them and they would break
01:05:18 them in pe they’d slit their throats and
01:05:20 break them in pieces uh scattering their
01:05:24 parts about the land
01:05:27 in front of them. And then both parties
01:05:31 would walk both parties of the covenant
01:05:33 would walk through the through the
01:05:36 through the through the corpses and
01:05:38 bodies of the dismembered animals
01:05:42 in covenant in similitude of the
01:05:45 covenant that they had just made that
01:05:48 should either one of them violate this
01:05:50 covenant seeding this land from one
01:05:53 person to another
01:05:55 that they would be similarly broken.
01:06:01 This was the nature of land covenants in
01:06:03 the Middle East. This is how they were
01:06:05 made and entered into. So, we’re going
01:06:08 to we’re going to see here a covenant of
01:06:10 land.
01:06:13 Um, and we’re going to start in verse 7
01:06:16 in Genesis 15. And he said, “And he ya
01:06:21 said unto him, Abraham,
01:06:24 I am Yoha that brought thee out of the
01:06:27 Chaldis and to give thee this land to
01:06:31 inherit it.” And and he Abraham said,
01:06:41 “Whereby shall I know that I shall
01:06:44 inherit it?”
01:06:47 And he Y said unto him, Abraham,
01:06:51 take me an heer of three years old, and
01:06:55 a she goat of three years old, and a ram
01:06:57 of three years old, and a turtle dove,
01:06:59 and a young pigeon.
01:07:00 >> So, I I want to bring out uh three Torah
01:07:05 law.
01:07:06 >> Yeah.
01:07:08 And he took unto him
01:07:11 all these, and divided them in the
01:07:13 midst, and laid each piece one against
01:07:16 another. This is perfect for This is the
01:07:19 perfect way you lay it out for a for a
01:07:21 blood uh for a for a blood covenant of
01:07:24 land.
01:07:26 But the birds divided he not.
01:07:29 And when the bowels came down upon the
01:07:31 carcasses, Abraham drove them away
01:07:36 there. And when the sun was going down,
01:07:39 a deep sleep fell upon Abraham, and lo
01:07:43 and and horror of great darkness fell
01:07:45 upon him. And he ya said unto Abraham,
01:07:50 “Know of assurityity that thy seed shall
01:07:52 be a stranger in a land that is not
01:07:55 theirs, and shall serve them, and sh
01:07:58 they shall afflict them for hundred
01:08:00 years.
01:08:02 And also that nation whom they shall
01:08:04 serve will I judge. and afterward shall
01:08:07 I come out with great substance, and
01:08:09 thou shalt go to thy f And thou shalt go
01:08:12 to thy fathers in peace. Thou shalt be
01:08:14 buried in a good old age, but in the
01:08:16 fourth generation they shall come hither
01:08:18 again, for the iniquity of the Amorites
01:08:21 is not yet full. It’s this is that’s
01:08:24 something really neat there. He’s uh
01:08:26 still giving the Amorites a little more
01:08:28 time to repent and knowing that they
01:08:30 will only ripen.
01:08:33 Uh yeah, I think I do agree with Ben,
01:08:36 but I think more of the focus is they
01:08:37 haven’t um
01:08:40 took it on the mark of Cain completely
01:08:42 or 666 or whatever or denial of the Holy
01:08:46 Spirit completely, so on and so forth.
01:08:48 Okay. Because there’s lots of names for
01:08:49 it.
01:08:51 >> So they they’re uh yes, they’re sinning,
01:08:53 but they’re not quite that bad yet.
01:08:56 >> Yeah. Not quite as bad as they will get
01:08:58 to. And it came to pass that when the
01:09:00 sun went down and it was dark, behold, a
01:09:04 smoking furnace and a burning lamp
01:09:09 that passed between those pieces.
01:09:12 Abraham
01:09:14 does not walk through the bloody beasts,
01:09:24 only Ya.
01:09:29 walks through the broken beasts to seal
01:09:32 the covenant of land upon those who
01:09:37 like Araham acknowledge him as their
01:09:41 king.
01:09:45 >> Yes.
01:09:46 In the same day, And in the same day,
01:09:49 Yahoo made a covenant with Abraham,
01:09:52 saying, “Unto thy seed have I given this
01:09:56 land,
01:09:58 and from from the river of Egypt, unto
01:10:00 the great river, the river Euphrates.”
01:10:04 >> Mhm.
01:10:05 >> And then he lists some other peoples
01:10:07 that he that have been that he’s that he
01:10:10 has made subject to his seed.
01:10:12 >> Mhm.
01:10:15 Now, one thing I do I’m sorry. Are you
01:10:17 done then?
01:10:18 >> Yeah. And so the really important thing
01:10:21 there is that this covenant, this land
01:10:24 covenant that we like Abraham enter into
01:10:29 when we take his name upon us
01:10:34 and come under his covering.
01:10:43 was only the only person
01:10:46 that was broken for this covenant that
01:10:49 was broken
01:10:51 and has been broken so many times by so
01:10:54 many people. The only person
01:10:59 who was broken for it
01:11:02 was Yahwh
01:11:04 >> as Yeshua.
01:11:11 Now to go with that I uh because I think
01:11:14 it’s a good uh point where I can say
01:11:16 something which actually goes with what
01:11:17 Ben is saying in verse 9. There’s five
01:11:20 animals listed. One uh heer
01:11:24 one she goat two
01:11:27 ram three turtle dove four pigeon five
01:11:34 and the reason why this is significant
01:11:36 because five goes along with grace. It’s
01:11:38 the grace of Yahweh that we are saved.
01:11:44 And and these animal sacrifices
01:11:48 um when you go study them, they actually
01:11:50 point to Yeshua and the atonement. So uh
01:11:54 and their symbology, we I have gone over
01:11:57 some with Ben’s help on some things
01:12:00 because Ben’s better at the history than
01:12:01 I am.
01:12:02 >> Well,
01:12:03 >> yep.
01:12:04 >> They they point to Yeshua’s atonement.
01:12:06 Okay. And there’s one more thing I
01:12:09 wanted to bring out of that.
01:12:10 >> Okay,
01:12:13 >> it says
01:12:15 that it is
01:12:17 a furnace of coals and and a glowing
01:12:21 lamp, which is a veiled reference to
01:12:28 Ya and Yeshua in the same person. Two
01:12:31 items, one person walking through
01:12:36 the beasts.
01:12:37 >> Uh yes. And how it their light.
01:12:41 >> Yep.
01:12:41 >> And uh Yeshua is the light and that
01:12:45 light that he sheds for um shares with
01:12:48 people is Torah, right?
01:12:50 >> Yeah.
01:12:51 >> Um so so I I do think uh it’s probably a
01:12:55 good point to go back to Judges 14.
01:12:58 Correct.
01:12:58 >> Absolutely. Absolutely. So I think uh
01:13:03 that was on verse 10. I think we’re on
01:13:05 verse 11 if I Oh no, that was verse 11.
01:13:07 >> That was verse 11 to 30.
01:13:09 >> Okay. So uh let’s go to John 16 and oh
01:13:15 which verse was it there? Sorry.
01:13:19 Uh I’m going to pause a minute.
01:13:25 Okay. So, I think I’m just going to
01:13:27 focus on verse 7 because we’ve done a
01:13:29 lot of sidet tracks and that’s the meat
01:13:30 of it. Okay, but they’re
01:13:35 >> all these verses are deep. Okay, so um I
01:13:39 I’ll read verse 7. So, this is John
01:13:41 16:7.
01:13:43 Uh, nevertheless, I Yeshua tell unto you
01:13:46 the apostles the truth. It is expedient
01:13:49 for you that I should go away or and to
01:13:54 get into it, it’s uh to die. Okay? For
01:13:58 if I go not away, die, the comforter aka
01:14:02 Torah will not.
01:14:06 So, I do know what it says here, will
01:14:08 not come unto you. Um, and I I do
01:14:13 believe that’s true, but I do think it’s
01:14:15 not the best tense. Um, and I I’ve
01:14:19 looked at the interlinear from the Greek
01:14:22 that we have on this. I I didn’t go look
01:14:25 at the Hebrew actually because there’s
01:14:26 the Hebrew gospels.
01:14:28 >> Um, but um
01:14:32 the it’s more along uh past, current,
01:14:35 and future. Okay?
01:14:38 >> And I’ll get into why in just a minute.
01:14:40 Okay. But the comforter will not be with
01:14:44 you, I think, is a better translation.
01:14:46 But that goes along with come unto you
01:14:49 because it if it’s with you, it’s come
01:14:52 unto you. Okay? So, I don’t see a big
01:14:54 issue with the translation.
01:14:57 But if I depart, I will send and I’m
01:15:00 going to put it and and I have a lot of
01:15:03 research on this. Um, the word the Greek
01:15:06 word behind the hymn can be an it. In
01:15:09 fact, in this case, I didn’t check it
01:15:12 this time cuz there’s times where it
01:15:14 could be a him or her, or it should just
01:15:17 be only in it when referring to the Holy
01:15:19 Spirit, which is the comforter. Uh, I’m
01:15:22 going to leave that alone for now. Um,
01:15:24 but if I depart, um, I will send it the
01:15:29 comforter Torah unto you. And I can use,
01:15:33 um, in fact, let me let me do this. Let
01:15:35 me pause and get a verse um to help
01:15:38 support why I’m saying it here from the
01:15:40 restoration. One second.
01:15:43 Oh. Oh, wrong button. Sorry, guys. I am
01:15:47 button. Okay.
01:15:49 So, this is DNC 88 2 through5. Okay. And
01:15:53 I have it in a little kaismic form cuz I
01:15:56 am addicted to that.
01:15:58 >> I see what I’m looking at here is Bible
01:16:00 Hub John 16:7.
01:16:03 Oh, that is not what I wanted to share.
01:16:06 Um, so let me share the right window.
01:16:09 Um,
01:16:11 okay. Do you see my one note now?
01:16:13 >> Yes. Yes, I do.
01:16:14 >> Okay. Sorry about that. Uh, buttons are
01:16:16 funny sometime. Well, I just clicked the
01:16:18 wrong button. Sorry. Anyways. Okay. So,
01:16:21 this is DNC uh 88 2-5.
01:16:25 Um, and it’s talking about the comforter
01:16:29 uh from John 14-16 that Yeshua sent. And
01:16:35 here is some clarification in uh modern
01:16:38 revelation showing it is an it
01:16:42 uh and not a he. Okay, which goes along
01:16:45 with even the Greek behind the words. Um
01:16:51 >> it’s a big subject but anyways this goes
01:16:53 along with uh modalisms. that’s in uh
01:16:56 lectures on faith five where the third
01:16:59 there’s two personages
01:17:01 and then the Holy Spirit showing that
01:17:04 the third is not a person. Okay, but
01:17:06 anyways uh I I’ll go ahead and read
01:17:08 this. Behold, this is pleasing unto uh
01:17:11 your Yahweh and the angels rejoicing
01:17:14 over you. The alms of your prayers have
01:17:17 come unto the ears of Yahweh of Sabat um
01:17:22 or Lord of Hosts. Okay. and are recorded
01:17:25 in the book of the names of the
01:17:27 sanctified.
01:17:29 >> Mhm.
01:17:30 >> Um meaning uh you’re keeping Torah.
01:17:35 Okay.
01:17:37 Even then of the celestial world or uh
01:17:41 world means system. Okay. And you go
01:17:44 look up in the 1828 dictionary. Um which
01:17:47 would be glory. Okay.
01:17:50 Wherefore I now send or bestow onto you
01:17:55 another comforter. So this is the second
01:17:57 comforter that he’s talking about,
01:17:58 right?
01:18:00 >> Uh and this is where a lot of people
01:18:02 think it’s uh either seeing Yahweh uh
01:18:06 face to face or the a person. Okay?
01:18:11 >> Uh it’s not. It’s sanctification.
01:18:15 And this gets into this here. even unto
01:18:18 you my friends. Uh Yeshua, that’s a big
01:18:21 deal. Okay, calling you a friend versus
01:18:24 a disciple and so forth. That it, this
01:18:28 it refers to another comforter or this
01:18:31 other second comforter. Okay, it not he
01:18:36 or I may abide in your hearts. Now uh
01:18:41 throughout the scriptures, New Testament
01:18:43 and Old Testament and Book of Mormon and
01:18:45 DNC, it brings out how the law Torah is
01:18:49 to be written upon our hearts. Okay,
01:18:51 here’s another example of that tying it
01:18:54 to this another comforter. And when that
01:18:57 fully happens is sanctification.
01:19:00 >> Yes.
01:19:01 >> Yes.
01:19:03 >> Even the holy behavior. Oh,
01:19:05 >> okay. And so I think now is a good time
01:19:07 to go into the fact that the first
01:19:09 comforter is justification.
01:19:12 >> Yes, it is. Um good point there. Um
01:19:14 >> and the second comforter is
01:19:16 sanctification.
01:19:18 >> Yes. Um which is baptism fire and
01:19:21 baptism of the holy spirit. Look holy
01:19:24 spirit. Holy behavior. One of the
01:19:27 >> by the way what does bapti baptism mean?
01:19:31 It means burial. You are covered in the
01:19:34 Holy Spirit. You have become as Yeshua
01:19:39 is. You will know him because you are
01:19:43 like him.
01:19:44 >> I I actually I do agree with the idea
01:19:47 that Ben’s bringing out, but I think the
01:19:49 actual definition is immersion, not
01:19:53 burial.
01:19:54 >> Um that that the burial does come from
01:19:57 uh a teaching from Paul though. But I do
01:20:00 think the actual word means immersion.
01:20:03 Um.
01:20:03 >> Yeah. True. True.
01:20:05 >> And here you are being fully immersed
01:20:09 into the holy behavior Torah. Okay. And
01:20:14 because of that you of Torah, you can
01:20:17 have a promise of sanctification. And
01:20:19 that gets into I think that one’s DNC
01:20:22 84, right? That you need the law to be
01:20:25 justified and sanctified. And that’s why
01:20:27 it’s referred to as the Holy Spirit of
01:20:30 promise.
01:20:31 >> Yes. Because Torah has the promises.
01:20:35 >> And once you have been sanctified,
01:20:39 um, as long as you stay with Yoha,
01:20:45 those promises are yours.
01:20:47 >> Yes. Um so uh and just to make it clear,
01:20:53 Yeshua makes sure that uh we all know
01:20:56 what uh he’s talking about here. another
01:21:00 uh which other or another comforter is
01:21:03 the same that I Yeshua promised unto my
01:21:07 Yeshua’s disciples, the 12 disciples, 12
01:21:10 that turned into 12 apostles after they
01:21:14 learned and grew and started to keep as
01:21:18 it is recorded in the testimony of John
01:21:21 and specifically John 14-16. Okay. uh
01:21:25 this comforter, another comforter
01:21:28 because we got to keep the context in
01:21:29 mind here is the promise which I gave
01:21:32 unto you of eternal life which is
01:21:34 sanctification e um celestial glory as
01:21:38 it talks about in uh up here in this e
01:21:42 here. Okay, now I know it’s not the same
01:21:46 but uh f
01:21:48 it’s eternal life another comforter. If
01:21:52 you go look at the two Fs, okay, they’re
01:21:54 the same thing.
01:21:56 >> Just another way of describing even the
01:21:59 Okay, so here’s what he’s saying. What
01:22:01 it is or another name for it.
01:22:05 The glory of the celestial kingdom.
01:22:11 Okay. And I get into kingdom has to do
01:22:13 with glory. It’s kind of Anyways, um
01:22:16 which glory is that of the church of the
01:22:19 firstborn? Now, I’m going to plug this a
01:22:21 little bit. Um,
01:22:23 this actually does bring in modalism
01:22:26 here because I if
01:22:29 modmalism was not true, why would it not
01:22:32 be the church of the father versus the
01:22:35 firstborn?
01:22:37 >> Yeah,
01:22:37 >> it is the firstborn, Yeshua, that made
01:22:41 this all possible. And we’ll have to do
01:22:43 that. Um, I I do understand this. walk
01:22:46 through that in another recording
01:22:47 because I’m I’m already sidetracked from
01:22:49 the main thing. Okay, even the begotten
01:22:52 it it it’s it all of that is embedded in
01:22:56 Mosiah 15 1-5. Okay, I’ll leave it at
01:22:59 that. Um even Elohim. Oh, wait. So, the
01:23:04 firstborn is Elohim.
01:23:08 Modalism.
01:23:10 >> Mhm.
01:23:11 >> The highest of all. Oh, wait.
01:23:15 Uh the father is the highest.
01:23:18 >> He’s the one that figured this all out.
01:23:21 >> So he’s saying the firstborn is the
01:23:24 Elohim and the highest through or
01:23:28 because
01:23:30 uh Yeshua came down to be the Messiah as
01:23:33 a perfect exampler and work out the
01:23:35 atonement. Okay. Mhm.
01:23:39 >> So, uh, the main reason I’m bringing
01:23:41 this verse is it’s showing that the
01:23:43 comforter
01:23:45 >> is Torah.
01:23:49 Okay.
01:23:50 >> So, with that, let me go back to uh John
01:23:55 real quick.
01:23:57 >> Hopefully, I can click the right button
01:23:58 this time.
01:24:01 Okay. Um, I think I clicked it right
01:24:04 this time. So, I’m going to read this
01:24:06 again. Nevertheless, I tell you the
01:24:09 truth. It is expedient for you that I
01:24:12 die. I, yeshua, die. I, Yeshua, perform
01:24:16 the atonement. For if I do not do the
01:24:18 atonement,
01:24:20 Torah cannot come unto anyone. But if I
01:24:24 depart, if I die, I will give the Torah
01:24:28 unto those who diligently seek after me.
01:24:35 Torah. There’s two big things integral
01:24:40 to the plan of salvation.
01:24:43 Yeshua and Torah.
01:24:48 >> These two.
01:24:48 >> Okay.
01:24:49 >> Without the atonement,
01:24:52 the Torah, it all the Torah does is
01:24:56 condense.
01:24:57 >> Yes. It is because Yeshua ratified it
01:25:03 through his life and sacrifice
01:25:07 that we are able
01:25:11 >> to become like him and not be damned.
01:25:18 >> It is by his blood. It is by his
01:25:21 righteousness. It is because of his
01:25:24 covering. It is because of him keeping
01:25:27 it himself, showing it is possible,
01:25:31 making it actually valid.
01:25:36 >> If no one ever could do it, it would not
01:25:38 be valid. And the other thing is this.
01:25:43 If the lamb
01:25:46 had not been slain from the foundation
01:25:49 of the world,
01:25:55 there could be
01:25:57 none of this would work.
01:26:00 >> Correct.
01:26:01 >> None of this would work.
01:26:03 That
01:26:05 was what he had to figure out.
01:26:08 >> Yeah. He he figured this out.
01:26:10 >> Sorry. Go ahead.
01:26:11 >> That was what he had to figure out.
01:26:16 >> And when he figured that out, he had
01:26:18 already succeeded
01:26:21 in his plan for Earth
01:26:24 because some would take it, some would
01:26:28 become.
01:26:31 >> Okay. Yeah. Um Yeah. He he did this for
01:26:36 those who would be sanctified. Others
01:26:39 will benefit from it that uh
01:26:43 do portions of it but it was uh for
01:26:47 himself and for those who would become
01:26:50 sanctified. Okay. So let’s go look at um
01:26:55 Judges
01:26:57 14
01:26:59 8 again. Okay.
01:27:02 So after a time he returned to take her
01:27:07 uh the the church and he returned to see
01:27:11 the lion, the carcass of the lion. The
01:27:15 lion had to die. This verse is a
01:27:20 prophecy of what uh is being described
01:27:23 in John 16:7 of Yeshua’s death such that
01:27:28 we could have Torah, the comforter.
01:27:33 And because the lion died,
01:27:37 there were priesthood
01:27:40 that were called of the holy Melzdc
01:27:43 priesthood and of Aaron, which is a
01:27:45 subset of the Melzdc priesthood to teach
01:27:48 Torah
01:27:51 to the people.
01:27:55 and and in the carcass of the lion
01:27:59 showing it was because of the death of
01:28:02 the lion of Judah
01:28:05 that made all of this possible for us to
01:28:08 have Torah so that we could be like him.
01:28:11 And as Ben brought up earlier in second
01:28:14 Nephi 9 that without the atonement and
01:28:18 Torah, we would be agents unto Satan
01:28:21 himself. It wouldn’t we would just give
01:28:24 in because we wouldn’t for one we
01:28:27 wouldn’t know any better and even if if
01:28:29 we did know the better
01:28:32 what would be the reason we’re already
01:28:34 condemned what does it matter
01:28:38 so why not
01:28:41 like I’ve said
01:28:44 all we deserve is death
01:28:48 >> that’s all any of us actually deserves
01:28:51 without Yeshua in the atonement. That’s
01:28:54 all we deserve. An endless death and an
01:28:57 endless hell.
01:29:02 So, um maybe I’ll do real briefly uh uh
01:29:07 actually let me find the ver uh passage
01:29:09 in a minute. So, give me a second.
01:29:13 >> Okay. Ju just briefly um another place
01:29:16 this is uh shown in prophecy in the uh
01:29:22 histories inside of Torah is Abra or I’m
01:29:26 sorry Genesis 22:13
01:29:30 and I’ll read this. And Abraham lifted
01:29:32 up his eyes and looked and beheld behind
01:29:35 him a ram Yeshua caught in the thicket
01:29:39 by the thorns. So the thicket has to do
01:29:43 with mortality
01:29:45 and the thorns are, you know, that
01:29:47 happen because
01:29:48 >> by his horns.
01:29:50 >> He’s caught by his horns.
01:29:52 >> Yeah.
01:29:52 >> Symbols of power.
01:29:54 >> His power is caught up in rescuing
01:29:58 mortality.
01:29:59 >> Yeah. Yeah. Because of the curse that
01:30:01 happened uh with Adam and Eve with the
01:30:04 sins. So his power is stuck up in saving
01:30:07 us from that. and Abraham and went and
01:30:09 took the ram
01:30:11 and offered him up for a burnt offering
01:30:14 in thestead of his son.
01:30:17 Um
01:30:20 just like Yoh
01:30:24 took the son
01:30:26 took Yeshua
01:30:30 as an offering
01:30:33 in the place of those who would become
01:30:35 his sons.
01:30:37 >> Yeah.
01:30:41 So or daughters as the case may be. Oh
01:30:44 >> yeah. Yeah. Sons and daughters. Um I I I
01:30:48 do know
01:30:50 and it has been most of my life until
01:30:53 just recently cuz until I was helping
01:30:55 Brennan, I started thinking about it.
01:30:58 This verse 8 in Judges 14 was always
01:31:02 kind of weird,
01:31:04 but
01:31:06 it’s a prophecy about Yeshua needing to
01:31:09 die such that we can have the atonement
01:31:13 and Torah.
01:31:17 I
01:31:19 you know it was pretty cool when he gave
01:31:21 that to me and I wanted to share it and
01:31:24 and I hope this has been meaningful for
01:31:28 those who listen to this to to see the
01:31:30 imagery here and the teachings that are
01:31:32 there within.
01:31:35 I there’s a lot of depth to the
01:31:37 scriptures if we take the time to
01:31:41 ponder them as we are actually commanded
01:31:43 to do.
01:31:46 And if you let them change you to be
01:31:49 more like the Messiah,
01:31:52 they’ll mean more to you and you will
01:31:54 see the Messiah in them more.
01:32:00 And I say this name, yes, the Messiah.
01:32:02 Amen. Amen.