Scripture Study 2026-02-25 Correcting Witch to Murderer

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Going over the chiasmus of Exodus 21:28 – Exodus 22:28 with Exodus 22:18 in the center to show Joseph Smith correction of witch to murderer goes with the flow of the divisions of Torah in the chiasmus. If it’s bad to meet with angels, then why did Yeshua meet with Moses on the mount of transfiguration? Pray to YHWH don’t worry about using thee and thou. Joseph Smith correcting witch to murdered is not teaching that witches are not to receive capital punishment, it is in other locations in the scriptures including the Book of Mormon after Yeshua’s death. Book of Mormon teaches Torah is still valid after Yeshua’s death. I like the Hebrew roots of the faith, I don’t like the Hebrew roots movement and Messianic Jews because they more follow Pharisee roots than the 5 books of Moses. The Jewish Passover ceder that started after 70 AD, tells you to break Passover commandments. It is helpful to know the false traditions that Yeshua was teaching against. I believe Hanukkah is older than the Maccabees, but we don’t have everything from the Bible. Yeshua kept Hanukkah. Harry Porter is the AntiChrist and Lord Voldemort is YHWH Elohim. The 10 division of Torah is divided into two sections of 5 each. Noahide laws is a deception, YHWH is no respecter of persons and thus judges everyone by the same laws. Law of Moses was a punishment primarily of the two daily lambs that ended at the cross. Explaining how the commandments surrounding Exodus 22:18 fit into one of the 10 divisions of Torah. Showing why adultery is connected with graven image. In Stephan’s dying speech tells us the Israelites were the church in the wilderness. Malachi is telling the priests who collect tithing not to rob Elohim not the people giving tithing. Justice cannot rob mercy. When ideas have masculine or feminine pronouns attached to them, it is not teaching they are a person. People being less educated is causing people to not understand what the scriptures are saying. Yeshua was a legalist. The parable of the Sower shows that the crow / demons took away the word from some who are in the kingdom. Lending money with interest is fine to do, the problem is charging to much interest which is steeling. When you wrong someone you need to give back what you took, and if you had a wicked intent you have to give back more to payback for your wicked intent. Yeshua’s sermon on the Mount / Torah was given during Pentecost / Shavuot. Insurance companies enforce principles from Torah. The applications of the principles during Moses’ day is still valid, along with, even in Moses’ day, we are to apply the principles today. We are to do our best effort to do restitution. In the Second Coming events, Daniel 12 has the Mighty and Strong One swearing an oath. Stoning is still valid shown by the fact the earth will be stoned during the wrath. Israel was gored by a golden calf, symbolic of Satan, which is perhaps the reason it is being mentioned in the law. Indentured servants owe their masters a debt, when they are harmed they are not able to work to pay back their debt, which is the reason the money goes to the master. Joseph Smith did not practice witchcraft. We are to take into account the character and motivations of someone before considering their supposed witness. Today’s court system is not according to Torah. People who are desperate to push their agenda don’t do a full investigation of what they claim.

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00:00:02 Okay. So, today we’re going to go over a
00:00:05 question that Brendan brought up the
00:00:07 other day simply because I think it’s an
00:00:10 important one. It’s dealing with the New
00:00:13 Translation, more known as the JST or
00:00:17 the inspired version of the Bible. Um,
00:00:20 and it it was a good question that
00:00:23 Brennan had that he brought up. Um, and
00:00:27 so I thought it was uh worthy to bring
00:00:30 up in a recording because there’s
00:00:34 probably others have wondered it also. I
00:00:38 I’ve I’ll be honest, I never worried
00:00:40 about it because I just I I believe it.
00:00:45 Um, in other areas, it just completely
00:00:48 makes sense what he’s done. Um, or
00:00:52 Joseph Smith to be specific. um in the
00:00:55 new translation including
00:00:58 making kaisms possible and
00:01:04 he never talked about kaisms that I’m
00:01:06 aware of Joseph Smith. So I don’t think
00:01:09 he was trying to do that. I think he was
00:01:11 actually listening to
00:01:14 revelation and inspiration from yah. In
00:01:18 addition,
00:01:19 >> I’m actually I actually think it’s
00:01:21 fairly safe to say that he may not have
00:01:23 known that they existed.
00:01:27 >> Probably not. I know he had a Hebrew
00:01:30 teacher later in life.
00:01:33 >> And I’ll be honest, I don’t remember the
00:01:35 timing of that in respect to the new
00:01:38 translation to be honest. Though he did
00:01:41 work on it throughout his life, right?
00:01:45 >> Yeah. So, at least part of the time he
00:01:49 had or was after uh Hebrew teacher.
00:01:53 I’m inclined to think that he started
00:01:56 before that, but this is where I’m weak
00:02:00 in church history and I’ll just
00:02:02 completely admit that. Okay. Um uh other
00:02:06 people are much better at that than I
00:02:09 am, which is fine. there. Everybody has
00:02:12 their strengths and we are to help each
00:02:14 other. As Paul put it, the hand and the
00:02:17 foot are not to say they don’t need each
00:02:19 other. Okay. Go ahead.
00:02:21 >> The reason I bring that forward is
00:02:23 because I do think that that really
00:02:26 makes it Well, how do you explain the
00:02:29 kayazits then if he doesn’t even know
00:02:31 that they exist?
00:02:34 How do you explain how his translations
00:02:37 bring them about?
00:02:40 Because
00:02:41 >> the only way the only way that you can
00:02:43 the only way that you can explain it is
00:02:45 through
00:02:46 >> with given that he didn’t know that they
00:02:49 exist
00:02:51 >> is through revelation
00:02:53 or inspiration or
00:02:55 >> inspiration.
00:02:56 >> He uh another aspect is that he actually
00:03:01 talked with those men and they may have
00:03:04 told it to him.
00:03:06 >> Mhm.
00:03:07 And you remember
00:03:08 >> and that would that that would qualify
00:03:10 as revelation I think. But
00:03:15 >> uh I think that so I I think re in my
00:03:18 mind. Okay. Revelation is through
00:03:21 Yahweh. We’re talking with the men.
00:03:27 I I can see why it could be classified
00:03:30 as revelation. I’m less prone to put it
00:03:32 that way just because the way I I think
00:03:35 of revelation, but I can see how other
00:03:37 people could if that makes sense.
00:03:39 >> Yeah.
00:03:40 >> Um
00:03:41 but in a sense, revelation is uh words
00:03:45 from a heavenly messenger, which I I I
00:03:48 >> that’s what And that’s where I’m taking
00:03:50 that.
00:03:50 >> Sure. Sure. And I I I limit it to
00:03:52 Yahweh, but I could see how maybe that’s
00:03:55 not right.
00:03:57 >> Yeah. Um because I I do believe he met
00:04:01 with
00:04:03 these men. Um
00:04:07 uh including Moroni. And now if people
00:04:11 So I know people outside the restoration
00:04:14 claim, oh it’s bad to meet with angels.
00:04:17 Well, Yeshua met with Moses
00:04:22 on the mount of transfiguration. So if
00:04:26 it’s me bad to meet with angels, why did
00:04:29 Yeshua do it on the mount of
00:04:31 transfiguration? Now there’s debate who
00:04:33 the second was. I I do believe it is
00:04:36 John the Baptist. Um
00:04:39 who is someone in the spirit of
00:04:44 Elisha or I always for um the other one
00:04:48 that I
00:04:50 the other E word not Elijah but
00:04:53 >> Elijah. Not Elijah. The other one. Not
00:04:56 the Elias.
00:04:58 >> Elias. That’s the one I’m thinking.
00:04:59 Elias.
00:05:00 >> Elias.
00:05:02 Yeah. Elias is a very loaded uh that’s a
00:05:06 very loaded word because there’s a
00:05:09 person named Elias as we can see in the
00:05:12 Doctrine of Covenants. There’s also
00:05:15 Elias is also kind of a calling.
00:05:18 >> Yes.
00:05:19 And it is a it’s a calling of the
00:05:22 preparer, right? Specifically of one guy
00:05:25 that’s coming that I like to call the
00:05:27 mighty strong one, but he has lots of
00:05:29 names. Um but
00:05:33 um
00:05:36 there is a new translation in there that
00:05:38 makes it obvious it’s John the Baptist
00:05:41 in addition to Moses there.
00:05:44 >> Yeah.
00:05:45 So, but whether it was I’m sorry,
00:05:50 John the Baptist or somebody else, it
00:05:54 was still an angel.
00:05:55 >> Mhm.
00:05:56 >> So,
00:05:56 >> all of this all of this to get to the
00:05:58 point that these these uh these
00:06:01 translations are received through
00:06:04 communication with heavenly messengers.
00:06:07 >> Yes. Now, there are occasions where it’s
00:06:12 just a word here or there. Um, and
00:06:17 Joseph Smith at times got rid of thee
00:06:20 and thou. So, if you think you have to
00:06:23 pray with thee and thou, why was Joseph
00:06:26 Smith updating
00:06:29 um with some of his translations away
00:06:31 from thee and thou? It’s
00:06:34 >> Yeah.
00:06:36 Um
00:06:39 just pray
00:06:42 that’s the important thing. The words
00:06:44 you use
00:06:46 uh and the formality
00:06:48 not so much.
00:06:51 Pray.
00:06:52 >> Yeah.
00:06:53 >> Okay.
00:06:54 >> Just get it done.
00:06:56 >> Yeah. So, uh enough with that.
00:07:00 So, the one that Brennan asked about has
00:07:03 to do in Exodus 20 verse 18. I did
00:07:09 remember
00:07:09 >> 22. 22.
00:07:11 >> Oh, is it?
00:07:12 >> Oh, I can’t even
00:07:12 >> 20 is the ten commandments.
00:07:14 >> Okay. Oh, yeah, that is right. So, um it
00:07:17 is 22. Sorry about that. I I have my
00:07:20 strengths and my weaknesses as one just
00:07:23 came out.
00:07:26 the actual Don’t ask him to remember the
00:07:28 actual place of a verse, but he can tell
00:07:32 you what’s in it. He can tell you what’s
00:07:34 in it.
00:07:34 >> Uh yeah, I read it and I can tell you I
00:07:37 I mean I I have my one note
00:07:41 for many reasons. One, just to remember
00:07:44 where stuff is at. Okay, I will be
00:07:47 honest.
00:07:48 Um when I started it was easy to
00:07:51 remember
00:07:53 some but when you start adding
00:07:56 subject after subject after subject
00:07:59 after subject
00:08:03 I I I don’t have the skills
00:08:08 to memorize everything. I am sorry. Um,
00:08:12 I am better at concepts and seeing them
00:08:17 and remembering the principles and and
00:08:20 the imagery. Okay. Um, so but thank you
00:08:26 for uh the correction because you’re
00:08:27 right. Exodus 20 is about the 10
00:08:30 divisions of Torah. Um, but so it’s
00:08:34 Exodus 22:18.
00:08:36 So
00:08:37 Brennan was wondering why did Joseph
00:08:41 Smith change this witch to murderer
00:08:46 here.
00:08:47 >> Um and he brought up a concern that
00:08:51 actually Ben said he’s I think Ben said
00:08:54 if I remember correctly he saw too. And
00:08:56 I I’ve never seen I I grew up in a
00:08:58 bubble. I’ll just be open and honest. I
00:09:01 I I’m I’m comfortable with it. Okay. I I
00:09:04 know who I am.
00:09:06 um and what my past is and who I’ve be
00:09:10 become. Okay, I’m not worried about it.
00:09:14 Um that
00:09:16 people claim because Joseph Smith
00:09:19 corrected witch to murderer that means
00:09:23 witches don’t receive capital punish
00:09:26 punishment. And that’s not the case. And
00:09:29 Ben could
00:09:32 might be able to because he’s better at
00:09:33 this than I am. quote where uh
00:09:36 scriptures where other places in the
00:09:40 five books of Moses it states that
00:09:42 witches are to receive capital
00:09:44 punishment.
00:09:45 >> Now I would have to look it I would
00:09:46 actually have to look it up but
00:09:48 >> Oh okay. Well, Ben’s really pretty good
00:09:51 about remembering references, but
00:09:53 >> yeah. But yeah, and uh but I I also uh
00:09:57 I’m also really grateful that uh Stephen
00:10:00 has a great uh Stephen’s got a great
00:10:03 tool that actually helps you to uh that
00:10:07 helps you to helps you to figure out
00:10:10 >> Oh, let’s let’s go use figure out where
00:10:13 to where to find these things.
00:10:15 >> Yeah, let’s go look at it real quick.
00:10:16 Well, I’ll just type in which that’s
00:10:19 pretty easy. Right. So,
00:10:23 >> um, so the the one thing that’s a little
00:10:26 weird, I will admit I’m a software
00:10:28 engineer, so I I it is somewhat tailored
00:10:32 to that type of thought. It doesn’t have
00:10:34 to. You could just do rag X and just a
00:10:37 word, right? And then,
00:10:40 >> oh, there they are. Oh, that’s the one
00:10:42 we had. Oh, but there is Deuteronomy 18.
00:10:47 any among you knew that his son or
00:10:48 daughter passed through the witch that
00:10:50 used generation reserve times or enhance
00:10:52 or a witch and I’m sure if we look at
00:10:54 the verse that goes along you know
00:10:56 capital
00:10:57 >> okay but then it’s also in the old
00:11:00 testament
00:11:02 uh so LDS is basically King James but
00:11:05 it’s the LDS version of King James the
00:11:08 IVC is the
00:11:11 um
00:11:13 center place uh uh new translation
00:11:18 inspired version center place is what it
00:11:20 stands for. Okay, it looks like it’s in
00:11:23 the New Testament also and it’s also in
00:11:26 the Book of Mormon which is some of the
00:11:29 verses. In fact, it’s three times right
00:11:32 there. 3 Nephi 21:16, Moroni 11:19, and
00:11:36 Moroni 2:10, which is some of the vers
00:11:40 >> Oh, wait a minute. What’s this? I will
00:11:41 cut off the witchcrafts out of my out of
00:11:44 thy land, and thou shalt have no more
00:11:45 soothsayers.
00:11:46 >> Yeah.
00:11:47 >> Now, the thing is is that when Yahw’s
00:11:49 hand does something, it is the same as
00:11:52 Yahw doing it himself.
00:11:55 >> Yeah. Yeah. And his hand are his
00:11:57 servants, right?
00:11:58 >> Yep.
00:11:59 >> Yes. A and and so these uh three verses
00:12:03 here in the Book of Mormon after the
00:12:07 cross, that’s a very important period or
00:12:11 time
00:12:13 distinction there that shows that Torah
00:12:16 is still valid. And I’ll I’ll put in the
00:12:18 notes the recording that I have or goes
00:12:20 over many of these, okay? Including I’m
00:12:24 sure those three. Now, I don’t have it
00:12:26 all memorized, but I I if witchcraft is
00:12:30 talked about in Torah, how it’s evil.
00:12:33 Here is the Book of Mormon after the
00:12:35 cross talking about something in Torah
00:12:38 as still evil. Okay?
00:12:40 >> Right? And it’s saying, “I will cut them
00:12:42 off from my land.” Cut them off. That is
00:12:45 a very literal cutting off. Physical.
00:12:50 >> Yeah. It’s capital punishment. Just it’s
00:12:53 death. because that is breaking the
00:12:58 third division of Torah or third
00:13:02 commandment and uh which also goes along
00:13:05 with false prophets. So those people
00:13:08 claiming be of Yahweh and speaking of
00:13:11 things that they claim are from him but
00:13:14 not you better watch out.
00:13:18 So uh it is capital punishment and you
00:13:22 are a son of predition. Okay. Um,
00:13:27 it it this is serious stuff to put to
00:13:30 take Yahweh’s name in vain. And there’s
00:13:32 more to it than just that, but that’s
00:13:34 not the focus of this recording. But as
00:13:37 you can see here, this if all you want
00:13:39 to do is do Ragex in one word, it’s
00:13:42 pretty simple with this tool. Uh, I’ll
00:13:45 put a link in the notes. Uh, and uh,
00:13:48 I’ll show you. Oh, okay.
00:13:52 Do you guys see the download options
00:13:53 page?
00:13:54 >> Yeah.
00:13:55 >> Okay. So, I there’s a lot of uh things
00:13:59 you can download. I’m you search the
00:14:02 lectures on faith, different versions of
00:14:04 the the Bible.
00:14:06 And if if it’s open source, oh, not open
00:14:10 source, um public domain, that’s the
00:14:12 word I’m want to use. If it’s public
00:14:14 domain and it’s something um
00:14:18 I find important you uh let me know and
00:14:22 if there’s a text source I’ll write the
00:14:24 code to convert it and upload it to
00:14:25 where this goes gets
00:14:28 things to go search from. I’m happy to
00:14:31 help make the scriptures more
00:14:34 accessible. Okay. And which is the whole
00:14:36 reason for this tool here. Okay. So
00:14:39 that’s what’s possible to download right
00:14:41 now. The JSP has to do with more of a
00:14:44 Jewish translation of the Old Testament.
00:14:48 Um cuz I I like the Hebrew
00:14:54 roots type of stuff. I don’t like the
00:14:57 Hebrew roots movement because I think
00:14:59 it’s more of a Pharisee roots movement,
00:15:01 but that’s another discussion. But
00:15:02 anyways,
00:15:03 >> they tend to they tend to uh they tend
00:15:07 to embellish the word with uh the
00:15:10 traditions of men.
00:15:12 >> Yeah. Aka the Pharisees. Um which Yeshua
00:15:15 in the New Testament actually said makes
00:15:18 Torah null and void
00:15:19 >> or in some instances in some instances
00:15:21 they’re still borrowing from
00:15:23 Christianity certain things.
00:15:25 >> Yes. is back the um the hagoda if I’m
00:15:31 remembering the term right or their
00:15:32 Passover traditions is borrowed from the
00:15:35 Christians after 70 AD. Um anyways, so
00:15:39 there’s been a lot of borrowing back and
00:15:41 forth that they don’t want to emit. Um I
00:15:45 think I remember the term right, didn’t
00:15:47 I? Ben Hagod or the Passover seder.
00:15:50 >> Yeah. Uh the uh Yeah, that Yeah, the
00:15:53 hagada that
00:15:55 >> Yeah. Uh it’s
00:15:57 >> yeah it’s uh yeah that’s the it’s what
00:16:01 defines the traditions that go in the
00:16:03 Passover s
00:16:04 >> yeah after 70 AD and probably even later
00:16:07 than that because they got stuff from
00:16:09 the Christians.
00:16:11 Um,
00:16:11 >> yeah.
00:16:12 >> Not to mention,
00:16:13 >> and here’s the and here’s the thing that
00:16:15 you need to realize is that practically
00:16:18 all of modern Judaism is actually a
00:16:20 reaction to Christianity.
00:16:25 There’s
00:16:26 >> I don’t know about all
00:16:28 I did say I did say practically all I
00:16:31 didn’t say. There’s a lot of Talmud
00:16:34 stuff that was long.
00:16:35 >> Well, a lot the Talmud, a lot of the
00:16:37 Talmud, a lot of the traditions recorded
00:16:39 in the Talmud were actually recorded
00:16:42 after uh Christianity was the more
00:16:45 mainstream religion.
00:16:48 >> So, the interesting thing is so this is
00:16:51 a very actual this is a very real u most
00:16:54 of the Talmud was not in existence at
00:16:57 the time that Yeshua was alive.
00:17:00 >> Oh, it was the Mishna. Sometimes I get
00:17:02 >> yeah the Mishna that the Mishna is very
00:17:04 important to understand for historical
00:17:07 cultural context of Yeshua’s life
00:17:11 but uh it’s none of it is um
00:17:16 none of its word none of it is the word
00:17:18 of Elohim
00:17:20 >> correct but it can be somehow to know
00:17:23 what traditions he was combating
00:17:26 >> or either traditions he was combating or
00:17:29 in some instances is uh in some
00:17:32 instances um especially given that
00:17:35 there’s not much recorded about Hanukkah
00:17:38 in um
00:17:40 in the um
00:17:44 >> Old Testament
00:17:45 >> in the Old Testament. uh some of those
00:17:48 traditions he may have been living.
00:17:50 >> Um
00:17:51 >> he Yes. And um
00:17:55 >> that doesn’t mean that those that but
00:17:58 just the thing that we need to realize
00:17:59 is that just because he lived those
00:18:02 traditions does not mean that those
00:18:05 traditions became law.
00:18:07 >> Yeah. So Hanukkah is a non-commanded
00:18:10 holiday. Now um it’s in the Mcabes.
00:18:15 There’s no questions about that. I do
00:18:17 believe
00:18:19 it’s older than that. Even though it’s
00:18:22 not in the canonized
00:18:24 Bible,
00:18:26 there are possible suggestions in the
00:18:29 canonized Bible,
00:18:31 >> right?
00:18:32 >> Um but
00:18:36 endless arguments on that. Okay.
00:18:40 Um it the main point is
00:18:44 it’s not commanded but Yeshua did keep
00:18:47 it. So I do believe there’s validity to
00:18:50 it because Yeshua did not keep
00:18:52 traditions that did not have any
00:18:54 validity to it. and all.
00:18:55 >> And I do believe that there’s some value
00:18:58 I I do believe that there’s definitely
00:19:00 value to be found in honoring the
00:19:04 commitment that those men had
00:19:07 to not
00:19:10 syncretizing
00:19:13 to not mixing what they believed to be
00:19:17 the word and will of Yah with Greek
00:19:20 tradition.
00:19:21 >> And he’s talking about the Mcabes there.
00:19:24 I’m I’m Yeah, I’m talking actually I’m
00:19:26 talking about the technically it was the
00:19:28 ancestors of the Mcabes that uh fought
00:19:32 the fought that particular battle. The
00:19:34 Mcabes came after Judas Mcabeas was um
00:19:39 this
00:19:41 Mcabeas
00:19:42 Judas Makabeas is the son of the leader
00:19:46 of that rebellion.
00:19:47 >> Well, but the dedication was on Anukica.
00:19:52 Yeah, the dedication was on Hanukkah.
00:19:54 Um, and he is the one who was there to
00:19:57 do it. So,
00:19:59 >> anyways, minor point there. Though, I
00:20:02 will say I don’t follow
00:20:05 Orthodox Pharisee traditions on
00:20:08 Hanukkah. I do seven uh candlesticks for
00:20:14 eight days. Yeah.
00:20:16 >> Um, and I have posts on it. We’re not
00:20:18 going to talk about it. Um
00:20:20 >> but yeah we need to we need to move on
00:20:22 from that. But I
00:20:24 the thing is is that um the thing is is
00:20:29 that Hebrew roots tends to get it tends
00:20:33 to play Hebrew roots and especially
00:20:35 Messianic Judaism tends to place too
00:20:38 much um
00:20:40 too much weight on traditions that were
00:20:44 started in reaction to Christianity
00:20:48 >> and possibly even older than that
00:20:49 because of the Pharisees. Um,
00:20:52 >> but Orthodox Jews prize and are proud
00:20:57 that they’re descendants of the
00:20:58 Pharisees that were arguing with Yasua.
00:21:02 >> So, it’s ironic to me that the
00:21:04 Messianics look for them for wisdom. But
00:21:07 anyways, that’s another and the
00:21:10 Hebrewers because primarily Hebrewers
00:21:13 are Christians in one form or another
00:21:16 that are then trying to go to the Hebrew
00:21:17 roots of their faith, but it ends up
00:21:21 being Pharisee roots in most cases.
00:21:24 >> So, and uh yeah, and that and so that’s
00:21:28 uh so so moving on. Uh
00:21:32 >> anyway, so we saw one other occasion in
00:21:34 Deuteronomy for um capital punishment
00:21:39 for a witch, right?
00:21:40 >> Yes.
00:21:41 >> So it it did Joseph Smith correcting
00:21:46 Exodus 22:18
00:21:49 is not saying that witches are not to
00:21:53 receive capital punishment. And we saw
00:21:56 uh three cases in the Book of Mormon and
00:21:59 throughout the Old Testament
00:22:02 and I think the New Testament too if I
00:22:04 remember correctly, but I could be
00:22:06 remembering that wrong.
00:22:08 >> So it’s still wrong. Okay. Um now one
00:22:12 thing sorry Harry Potter is Harry Potter
00:22:15 is no more cool than he is no more cool
00:22:17 with Yah than he was uh yesterday.
00:22:22 >> Oh boy. On that point, I do agree with
00:22:25 Ben and I’m just gonna add one thing.
00:22:26 Harry Potter’s the antichrist and
00:22:28 Baltimore is Yeshua. So
00:22:31 >> yeah,
00:22:31 >> I mean just look at the tradition the
00:22:33 name though who that cannot be named
00:22:36 that goes with the in in
00:22:39 >> the ineffable the ineffable name
00:22:40 doctrine.
00:22:41 >> Yes, thank you Ben. I have a my speech
00:22:44 impediment comes out occasionally.
00:22:47 So, which goes along with the Jews think
00:22:51 you can’t say Yahweh, which is why they
00:22:53 put Lord all caps in the King James
00:22:57 because those translators follow that
00:22:59 false tradition of the Jews. Okay. Um I
00:23:04 I think though before we continue on
00:23:06 this this I do want to look at a little
00:23:08 chart I have um about
00:23:12 the Ten Commandments. Okay? because that
00:23:15 is somewhat helpful here. So, let me
00:23:18 change
00:23:20 what I’m sharing.
00:23:24 So, I’ll just go I don’t want that one
00:23:27 in Torah and I’ll just do in DNC just
00:23:30 cuz we’re in the restoration. But, um so
00:23:34 you you can go see how the 10 divisions
00:23:39 of Torah are in the DNC in this link.
00:23:42 Okay, we’re not going to focus on that
00:23:43 right now. But what I want to focus on
00:23:45 is this little Oh, I should probably
00:23:47 make it bigger. Sorry, guys. I sometimes
00:23:50 I forget cuz I I Yeah. Anyways, okay,
00:23:55 that’s probably better. What I want to
00:23:57 focus on are these 10 divisions where
00:24:01 there five regarding uh our authorities,
00:24:06 okay? and five regarding our fellow men
00:24:10 and ourselves.
00:24:12 >> Yeah.
00:24:13 >> Now, we need to keep these numbers in
00:24:16 order. Now, murder is number six. Now,
00:24:21 just because I’m remembering somewhat
00:24:23 off of memory from what I did with
00:24:26 Burnon and Ben the other day, we need to
00:24:28 remember that uh adultery is seven and
00:24:32 steel is eight. Okay.
00:24:35 >> Six, seven, eight. Yep.
00:24:37 >> Uh now I also remember um
00:24:42 that
00:24:44 uh so we’re going to go uh I can’t
00:24:47 remember I spell right now on the spot
00:24:49 but kaisms
00:24:51 are basically where it’s
00:24:54 um let me think. I’m going to do A B C D
00:24:58 just because I know what’s coming up. Uh
00:25:00 and then CBA.
00:25:04 Okay.
00:25:05 Um, so like well this one goes up to E,
00:25:08 but I’ll just because it’s there. So A
00:25:11 goes with A
00:25:14 >> and B goes with B and then the center is
00:25:17 a focus. Okay. Now uh in many caisms
00:25:24 >> I I shouldn’t say many I should say all
00:25:27 center of the kayazism or in this case
00:25:30 of this one with Amalik’s women in
00:25:34 10 11 the center is the focus. Okay. Now
00:25:40 the edges are important also. Okay.
00:25:43 >> Yeah. If you don’t have if the edges
00:25:45 don’t line up you don’t have a kayazm.
00:25:48 >> Yes. Um and they actually are what kind
00:25:51 of starting the kaism. And so there’s
00:25:53 some focus. In fact like on this one for
00:25:55 behold he have blessed mine house.
00:25:58 That’s a big deal. I want my house
00:26:01 blessed. I don’t know about you, but I I
00:26:03 would love my whole household to be
00:26:06 blessed from Yahweh.
00:26:07 >> And that go and notice how that goes
00:26:09 very well with and the blessing of Ya
00:26:13 um
00:26:15 rested upon us according to the words
00:26:18 which he spake.
00:26:20 >> Yeah. I I I that completely goes
00:26:23 together and it’s because of the work of
00:26:26 the father. Mhm.
00:26:28 >> Now, there’s two levels with father. The
00:26:31 actual little father and the father in
00:26:33 heaven. Okay. Um but in this random one
00:26:38 I picked, you can see how the edges and
00:26:42 the center support each other there,
00:26:45 right?
00:26:45 >> Yeah.
00:26:46 >> Yes.
00:26:46 >> So, that was a lucky more than just a
00:26:49 lucky because a lot of them are like
00:26:51 this. But anyways, you can see there
00:26:54 that that just works. Okay.
00:26:58 >> Yeah. Now the mi now these sections in
00:27:00 the middle sometimes it’s a little uh
00:27:04 can sometimes the connections can seem a
00:27:07 little um
00:27:10 strange but there’s always
00:27:12 >> there some are stronger than others. I
00:27:14 admit that like
00:27:15 >> but there’s but there’s always there’s
00:27:17 always a connection that you can see.
00:27:19 >> Yeah. Kins, folk, and children
00:27:21 definitely go together. And the woman or
00:27:23 wife going with the kindred, that
00:27:26 definitely goes together. Um, I I can
00:27:29 understand why some people may debate
00:27:32 that one a little bit, but I
00:27:36 I I I don’t think it’s a valid argument,
00:27:39 and I I don’t want to focus on that
00:27:40 right now because I’m not
00:27:42 >> Yeah,
00:27:42 >> go read the Amulix women if you want.
00:27:45 Um, I I highly recommend it. Of course,
00:27:47 I might be biased. Go ahead.
00:27:50 >> Yeah. So, uh, basically the only reason
00:27:52 I’m pointing that out is because
00:27:53 sometimes is because as people look over
00:27:56 kayazms, they will probably notice that.
00:27:59 So, just
00:28:00 >> Yeah. Um,
00:28:02 >> what’s important is that the beginning
00:28:05 of the kayazm and the end of the
00:28:06 kayazmatch
00:28:08 each other strongly
00:28:10 and that the center is a strong focal
00:28:13 point related to the outside edges. So,
00:28:16 I I haven’t updated this page in a long
00:28:18 time, but I I just I know when I did all
00:28:21 things you should do, I did a lot of
00:28:23 kayisms and I listed them there. There’s
00:28:26 a lot. Um, as you can see, uh, I put a
00:28:30 lot of work in that post. It’s I learned
00:28:33 a lot while doing it. Anyways, I highly
00:28:36 recommend reading it, but we’re not
00:28:38 going to sidetrack on that. So wi with
00:28:41 those two understandings of the 10
00:28:45 divisions of Torah and specifically the
00:28:47 sixth, seventh, and eighth commandments,
00:28:49 right? How they’re and what they are and
00:28:52 how they go one after the other. Okay?
00:28:55 So do not murder, do not commit
00:28:58 adultery, do not steal. Now, the reason
00:29:01 I’m bringing this up because this was uh
00:29:04 part of the answer I figured out with
00:29:07 Brennan on the spot here. It’s not on
00:29:10 the spot, but with Brennan, it was on
00:29:13 the spot on how we asked why was it
00:29:17 changed from which to murder
00:29:20 or murderer. Sorry. I I do believe this
00:29:23 was inspiration,
00:29:25 revelation, or
00:29:28 because he talked to an angel. Okay? I I
00:29:31 don’t know which one it is,
00:29:34 but I do believe it’s true. So, but
00:29:36 let’s keep those three in mind, okay?
00:29:40 And let’s go start um going through
00:29:44 what’s in
00:29:46 uh the context that goes with this,
00:29:49 okay?
00:29:52 Um, are are you guys seeing the uh JST
00:29:56 or something else?
00:29:57 >> Yes, I am.
00:29:58 >> Okay. It’s just not doing the highlight
00:30:00 for some reason. But anyways, okay. So,
00:30:02 um, just because I’m remember and it’ll
00:30:06 just make it easier just to know this.
00:30:08 This is the center of the kaism. Thou
00:30:10 shalt not suffer a murderer to live.
00:30:15 Okay. Now hopefully there’s no question
00:30:18 that is a valid teaching throughout
00:30:23 the scriptures and even just the five
00:30:24 books of Moses. Yeah. Uh
00:30:28 this is actually one of the more
00:30:30 prominent illustrations of this you can
00:30:33 find is with u is when Noah comes out of
00:30:37 the ark. Uh if man shed man’s blood by
00:30:40 man shall his blood be shed.
00:30:43 >> Yes. And now uh some people claim that’s
00:30:46 the Noahhide laws. I don’t agree with
00:30:48 that. Yahweh is no respector of persons
00:30:53 meaning he has this judges everybody the
00:30:56 same. Okay.
00:30:59 >> Um hence Torah is valid all the time.
00:31:06 Now, law of Moses is not law and I’ll
00:31:09 just say this. Law of Moses is primarily
00:31:11 the two daily lambs given a punishment
00:31:14 at Mount Si for their gross wickedness
00:31:18 to point them to the atonement. Um
00:31:22 >> and uh Yeshua’s
00:31:26 atonement has much to it and even
00:31:29 including things that the law of Moses,
00:31:32 the two daily lambs point to. Okay. and
00:31:34 we’ll just leave it at that for now.
00:31:37 Okay, so with that we have murder in the
00:31:41 middle. So for contextwise, let’s move
00:31:45 up. And I just Kindle sometimes
00:31:48 annoying.
00:31:49 >> Mhm.
00:31:50 >> So uh this going up has to do with uh
00:31:56 adultery. Now
00:31:59 adultery or the seventh division of
00:32:02 Torah or commandment is the
00:32:06 super commandment for as I’m just making
00:32:09 something of the mind or the main
00:32:12 commandment and then there’s various
00:32:14 subcommandments behind it or underneath
00:32:18 it I think is probably a better way of
00:32:20 saying it right.
00:32:21 >> Uhhuh. Now, um I I don’t remember how
00:32:26 far we need to go up. So, utterly refuse
00:32:29 Bethal.
00:32:38 >> Okay. So, I think we go 16.
00:32:42 Just if I’m wrong, we’ll find out in a
00:32:44 minute because I don’t remember
00:32:46 everything. Okay, people. I’m better
00:32:49 with the concepts and principles of
00:32:50 making connections. So 16. Uh Brennan,
00:32:55 will you read 16 and 17? Those two go
00:32:58 together.
00:33:00 >> And if a man entice a maid that is not
00:33:03 bethrothed and lie with her, he shall
00:33:06 surely endow her to be his wife. If her
00:33:09 father utterly refused to give her unto
00:33:12 him, he shall pay money according to the
00:33:14 dowy of virgins.
00:33:16 >> Okay. So this has to do 16-1 17 of
00:33:20 Exodus 22 has to do with fornification
00:33:24 which is
00:33:28 >> covered which is covered under the
00:33:29 division which uh which says you thou
00:33:32 shalt not commit adultery.
00:33:34 >> Correct. it it. So these divisions
00:33:39 um and that is focused on within what
00:33:43 people most people call the ten
00:33:45 commandments are highlights
00:33:49 >> of these divisions or probably even
00:33:52 better state the most important part of
00:33:56 that division. Okay,
00:33:58 it’s not the only part. Uhhuh.
00:34:03 >> Um and well I I think everybody
00:34:11 so the most important part thou shalt
00:34:13 not commit commit adultery is sexual.
00:34:17 Okay.
00:34:18 >> Mhm.
00:34:19 >> Uh but it is more than just sexual. It
00:34:22 can also be
00:34:24 um looking for emotional support from
00:34:28 somebody other than your spouse. Okay.
00:34:32 Well, in the in the juxiposition of the
00:34:35 ten commandments for the five for love
00:34:38 Elohim and the five for love your
00:34:40 neighbor, the two that stand together
00:34:45 are committing adultery
00:34:48 and worshiping idols.
00:34:50 >> Yes. And and so you want to talk about
00:34:52 why those two go together as since you
00:34:55 brought it up.
00:34:57 Well, it’s very clear uh from the
00:34:59 scriptural record that God view that
00:35:02 Elohim that our Elohim views looking at
00:35:07 other Elohim and worshiping other
00:35:09 Elohim.
00:35:11 It’s it is tantamount to um the well
00:35:17 okay first off the church is the bride
00:35:20 ya is the husband.
00:35:23 When the church
00:35:25 then proceeds to
00:35:28 worship
00:35:30 other
00:35:32 uh Elohim, the church is committing is
00:35:36 committing whoredoms or committing
00:35:38 adultery with those other Elohim because
00:35:41 they are married to Yah.
00:35:45 >> Correct. Uh good explanation. you’re
00:35:48 you’re you’re committing adultery either
00:35:51 to your spouse
00:35:54 or
00:35:55 against Yahweh, right? And as you see
00:35:59 here, I have
00:36:01 >> the five and the five and then a a
00:36:04 principle that then gets applied either
00:36:06 to your leaders or your your neighbor
00:36:09 and yourself in the center. Don’t betray
00:36:12 relationships. If you’re the bride of
00:36:14 Yahweh,
00:36:16 don’t go betray him with other
00:36:20 um judges or gods as that’s mostly
00:36:24 translated as that. I don’t particularly
00:36:27 like, but I’ll use it for now because
00:36:29 people are familiar with that term,
00:36:31 right?
00:36:32 >> And in case anybody was wondering, the
00:36:34 children of Israel were the church. Just
00:36:38 ask Stephen from Acts chapter 7.
00:36:42 >> Yeah. Not this, Stephen.
00:36:45 >> No, I’m talking about I’m talking Yeah.
00:36:47 I’m talking about um uh one of the first
00:36:50 church leaders in Jerusalem, Stephen.
00:36:52 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:53 >> The one who got his head the one who got
00:36:55 his head bashed in with a brick.
00:36:57 >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh from Paul who did uh
00:37:01 repent, but uh so
00:37:05 uh
00:37:08 I do read the Bible occasionally. Sorry.
00:37:10 Seven. And
00:37:13 can’t remember if King James is its
00:37:15 church.
00:37:17 >> Yes, it is.
00:37:18 >> There’s the verse. So there you go.
00:37:21 >> And this is he that was in the church in
00:37:24 the wilderness with the angel which
00:37:27 spake to him in the mount si.
00:37:32 Oh
00:37:34 >> yeah. This is Mosesi.
00:37:36 >> Yeah, that’s Mo. In fact, even the verse
00:37:38 before this is Moses. So I mean the
00:37:40 description is Moses and he’s talking
00:37:42 about church with Moses. Come on
00:37:45 >> and with our father. Now this word
00:37:48 church comes from the Greek word
00:37:49 ecclesia um which was also used in the
00:37:53 um uh
00:37:56 what’s the Greek Bible
00:37:59 the name of it? I can’t remember
00:38:00 >> the Septuagent
00:38:02 >> or the LXX if you want.
00:38:06 It’s used in a septuagent
00:38:08 um in the Old Testament when describing
00:38:13 the echisa
00:38:15 is used in describing the people who
00:38:17 left Egypt with Moses.
00:38:20 >> Yeah. It’s the church. And you’ll see
00:38:22 that because you have to be circumcised
00:38:26 and I would say of heart uh and we won’t
00:38:30 get into that to take Passover.
00:38:32 >> Yep. So anyways,
00:38:35 um, so, uh, I is that enough on that,
00:38:38 Ben, or do you want some more?
00:38:39 >> Yeah, I think so. I I think so. We can
00:38:41 move back, but I just wanted to, uh, I I
00:38:44 I just wanted to bring that forward
00:38:47 because there’s a lot of people who
00:38:49 think that the church replaced Israel
00:38:53 and that Israel was not the church, that
00:38:55 they were given some form of lower law,
00:38:58 and that’s just not the case.
00:39:00 >> Okay. So, so far on on 16 and 17 we have
00:39:07 thou shalt not commit adultery or
00:39:10 fornication to be specific, but that
00:39:12 does go under thou shalt not commit
00:39:15 adultery. Correct.
00:39:16 >> Yeah. Yeah. No porna for you.
00:39:19 >> Uh yes, that is a another good summary
00:39:22 as in anything porn sexual
00:39:26 >> type of
00:39:28 >> uh nature there. And and Ben is just
00:39:30 bringing out how it is in the Greek New
00:39:32 Testament. Okay.
00:39:33 >> Yeah.
00:39:34 >> And and then after that we have murder
00:39:37 which is 76, right? So let’s see. I uh
00:39:43 >> wait let’s go up above here.
00:39:45 >> Oh no. I I want to do underneath first.
00:39:47 >> So underneath. Okay. Okay. Yep. Yep.
00:39:48 Yep.
00:39:49 >> Um so I don’t know how far we’ll go. So
00:39:52 I’ll read this one because it’s kind of
00:39:54 like nasty and I’ll take that. But I’ll
00:39:57 start with 19.
00:39:59 Whosoever lith with a bee shall utterly
00:40:02 be put to death. Okay. So, um this is
00:40:07 disgusting, but this is having sex with
00:40:09 an animal. Okay.
00:40:11 >> I I Yeah, which I
00:40:17 goes along with the sexual of do not
00:40:19 commit adultery, right? I I mean, that’s
00:40:22 a sexual act.
00:40:24 >> Mhm. Uh, he that sacrificeth unto any
00:40:29 god, save Yahweh only, he shall be
00:40:33 utterly destroyed. Okay, so this is nice
00:40:35 that Ben talked about um the second
00:40:39 division of Torah beforehand because he
00:40:42 already brought up how uh the second and
00:40:46 the seventh go together. So we can
00:40:49 >> Well, I didn’t know when you were going
00:40:51 to get there, but I knew that it was
00:40:52 going to come up. uh that you remembered
00:40:55 more than I did that.
00:40:58 So
00:41:01 I I’m just being honest. I I don’t
00:41:03 remember everything, but I can work it
00:41:04 out in the moment, right?
00:41:08 >> I I I’m more worried about remembering
00:41:10 other things than
00:41:13 some things. I I’ll just be open and
00:41:14 honest about I’m I’m not ashamed. Okay.
00:41:18 So we have um murder in the center and
00:41:22 then we have adultery or porna or sexual
00:41:26 around it. So so far we see sexual
00:41:29 murder sexual.
00:41:31 >> Mhm. And that’s exactly two verses of
00:41:34 sexual on either side.
00:41:36 >> Yes. Or or passages probably to be
00:41:39 better put it.
00:41:41 >> Well
00:41:41 >> Oh no. Yeah. You’re right. two verses,
00:41:43 but the verses are man-made. Later on,
00:41:46 >> the vers the verses are always man and
00:41:48 the verses are always man-made unless
00:41:50 you unless somebody composed it in
00:41:52 verse, which is which I’d be like, “Wow,
00:41:54 that was uh that was astounding. Thank
00:41:57 you.”
00:41:57 >> Well, some people do nowadays, but
00:42:02 anyways, but in the past they didn’t.
00:42:03 So, okay. So, um, just to continue going
00:42:08 down, Brennan, will you read 21 through
00:42:12 I don’t know. Sorry. I just I don’t
00:42:16 remember how far to go.
00:42:18 >> Thou shalt neither vex a stranger nor
00:42:21 oppress him, for ye were strangers in
00:42:24 the land of Egypt.
00:42:26 >> Okay, so wait a minute. Um,
00:42:29 how how do you oppress someone?
00:42:34 >> You take their stuff.
00:42:36 >> Yeah. Or or you take away their rights.
00:42:38 >> Yeah. That’s stealing.
00:42:40 >> Yeah. Okay. So, let let’s let’s go
00:42:43 review something real quick cuz
00:42:45 sometimes my memory is bad.
00:42:49 Let’s see. Murder,
00:42:52 adultery, or sexual. Oh, stealing. Huh.
00:42:59 That’s interesting.
00:43:02 Okay. So, I I’m seeing a pattern here.
00:43:06 He’s going through the three divisions
00:43:09 of Torah here.
00:43:11 >> Mhm.
00:43:12 >> Now, uh since we have three, I will just
00:43:15 say this. Um, if it was witches, witches
00:43:19 has to do with taking Yahweh’s name in
00:43:22 vain because they claim things
00:43:24 >> right
00:43:25 >> from God that are not. Okay,
00:43:28 which is
00:43:30 >> it’s breaking the pattern. It’s
00:43:32 breaking. It would be breaking the chaos
00:43:36 pattern of seven and eight or adultery
00:43:39 and stealing and then three out of
00:43:42 nowhere cuz see that it it it’s not even
00:43:45 number one that would go with murder.
00:43:47 It’s three.
00:43:49 Um
00:43:51 so yeah. All right. So let let’s go back
00:43:55 and finish reading the stealing one. Let
00:43:58 me push the right button here. There we
00:44:02 go. Okay. So,
00:44:06 you oppress or vex your stranger by
00:44:09 taking away their substance or their
00:44:12 rights. In either case, it is stealing.
00:44:15 Right.
00:44:17 >> Okay. Let’s look at 22.
00:44:20 >> He shall not afflict any widow or
00:44:23 fatherless child.
00:44:24 >> Okay. So, that’s a common theme here and
00:44:27 there’s depth there. Uh but first I want
00:44:30 to talk about
00:44:33 Uh this goes along with the oppression
00:44:34 and afflicting you now and specifically
00:44:38 with like the widows and the childless.
00:44:41 It’s partly
00:44:44 uh tithing and justice. Okay.
00:44:48 >> Now um if you don’t give tithing to
00:44:52 those who
00:44:55 they have the right to it, is that
00:44:58 stealing?
00:44:59 >> Yes. Huh?
00:45:01 >> Will a man rob God?
00:45:04 Yet ye rob me?
00:45:06 >> And ye say, “Wherein have we robbed
00:45:08 thee?”
00:45:10 >> In tithes and offerings. And he is
00:45:12 speaking to the Levites
00:45:15 who are supposed to dispense the tithes
00:45:18 and offerings to the poor.
00:45:20 >> Yeah. He’s not talking to the actual
00:45:22 members.
00:45:23 >> He’s not talking to the poor and telling
00:45:25 them that they’re robbing him.
00:45:26 >> Yeah. He’s talking to the ones that are
00:45:28 not giving it out cuz he says, “Put it
00:45:30 in the storehouse.” Guess what? The poor
00:45:33 who need it don’t put it in the
00:45:34 storehouse. They take it out of the
00:45:36 storehouse.
00:45:39 >> So, um I if one tithing and then
00:45:44 if they’re not giving justice, are they
00:45:46 stealing justice?
00:45:50 >> Yeah.
00:45:51 >> Yeah. The justice is actually I would
00:45:54 say the justice is a right of all
00:45:56 mankind.
00:45:57 >> Oh yeah. I I mean that’s part of what
00:46:00 brings forth Zion is justice.
00:46:04 >> Now that there are people who will say
00:46:06 that justice is not a virtue. Not even
00:46:09 not even a hard virtue. They will say
00:46:11 that it’s not virtuous at all. The only
00:46:14 virtue is mercy.
00:46:16 But justice is the virtue that makes
00:46:19 mercy.
00:46:21 Justice is the virtue that makes mercy
00:46:23 meaningful.
00:46:24 >> Yeah. In addition,
00:46:27 justice
00:46:29 helps people
00:46:31 learn what is right and wrong. As in um
00:46:34 we can bring up Elma 42
00:46:36 if I remember correctly. So, let me
00:46:38 pause for a minute where I get it up.
00:46:41 We’ll see if I remember the chapter
00:46:43 right.
00:46:45 Okay. So, I was right on the chapter
00:46:48 Alma 42, but I also remember it’s in 2
00:46:51 Nephi 2, but I do like the Alma 42 one
00:46:54 more. And I will be honest, it’s because
00:46:57 it’s the first place I
00:47:00 really connected with on this. Okay,
00:47:04 these things
00:47:06 or I should say principles are
00:47:09 throughout the scriptures
00:47:11 multiple places
00:47:13 and a lot of time everybody remembers
00:47:16 the first one that connects with them
00:47:18 first. Okay.
00:47:21 >> Um and that’s the case with this one.
00:47:23 But here we go. So I don’t know where to
00:47:26 start, but I’m just going to start with
00:47:27 25 because we don’t need to spend lots
00:47:29 of time on this. But what do you suppose
00:47:32 that mercy can rob justice? I say unto
00:47:36 you, nay, not one way. If so, Elohim
00:47:38 would cease to be Elohim. And thus, uh,
00:47:42 Elohim bringeth forth his great and
00:47:44 eternal purposes.
00:47:46 Oh, okay. So, maybe go up to 24.
00:47:50 I’m really prepared here. For behold,
00:47:52 justice exercises all his or its in more
00:47:58 modern English because justice is a
00:48:01 principle.
00:48:03 But um this his is not saying that
00:48:06 justice is a man per se. Um it’s
00:48:10 >> or is it saying that mercy is a woman?
00:48:13 >> No. Yes, it’s not saying that either.
00:48:16 Good point there. Just because wisdom
00:48:18 gets a just because wisdom gets a
00:48:21 personal pronoun in one verse in the
00:48:25 Bible does not mean that wisdom is a
00:48:26 woman either. Yeah. Okay. So this gets
00:48:29 to the difference between English and
00:48:31 other languages. Other languages
00:48:35 uh words have uh three sexes.
00:48:40 uh justice in Hebrew is uh masculine and
00:48:46 mercy and wisdom is phenomenon. That’s
00:48:49 why you get the particular pronouns.
00:48:52 It’s not because it’s a person as in in
00:48:55 English. Okay. Um, English has lost
00:49:02 um
00:49:04 these types of pronouns with words.
00:49:09 Uh, occasionally
00:49:12 um most words don’t even have sexes, but
00:49:14 you still see it some in modern English
00:49:17 like a waiter and waitress.
00:49:21 >> It’s getting lost. In fact, people have
00:49:26 a lot of people because of some woke
00:49:29 movement and femininism, feminist
00:49:31 movement have forgotten that male
00:49:34 actually is inclusive for both sexes.
00:49:38 >> Um, so there’s a lot of the language
00:49:41 that’s being lost and forgotten. And
00:49:44 then people are misinterpreting the
00:49:47 scriptures that were put in a day and a
00:49:50 time where people knew these things.
00:49:52 Yep.
00:49:53 >> Um
00:49:55 which because of loss of education of
00:49:59 even just grammar and definitions of
00:50:02 words,
00:50:04 the scriptures are losing meaning and
00:50:06 being twisted because of that. Okay.
00:50:09 >> Y
00:50:11 >> um but anyways, so what do you suppose
00:50:15 that mercy Oh wait, sorry, wrong one.
00:50:18 24. For behold, justice exercises all
00:50:21 his demands.
00:50:22 So, this actually kind of brings out how
00:50:25 it’s justice that’s doing punishment,
00:50:29 not Yeshua. It’s
00:50:31 >> justice that demands punishment. It is
00:50:35 Yeshua that makes mercy possible. Okay?
00:50:40 But I will also point out
00:50:45 while Yeshua makes mercy possible,
00:50:47 Yeshua will also be the executor of is
00:50:52 also the executor of justice. Oh yeah,
00:50:54 he’s the judge, but he’s doing according
00:50:57 to the law.
00:51:00 >> And on that point, he is a legalist.
00:51:05 And I will say so am I because he was
00:51:08 and I want to be like him. If if
00:51:13 everybody’s a legalist when it has to do
00:51:15 with somebody else and how they hurt
00:51:17 them. No one hardly or not many are
00:51:21 legalists when it has to do with when
00:51:23 they actually break the law. It’s a
00:51:26 double standard for most people. Okay?
00:51:29 is they they all everybody wants their
00:51:32 justice when it’s done to them or at
00:51:34 least call out that it’s wrong.
00:51:39 That’s a double standard. It applies to
00:51:41 you also. Okay. And you know it deep
00:51:44 down. You just don’t want to admit it.
00:51:46 Well, nobody
00:51:52 Nobody wants
00:51:56 Nobody wants to pay the piper. Everybody
00:51:59 wants to dance. Nobody wants to pay the
00:52:02 piper.
00:52:03 >> The Yeah. Everybody wants to party, but
00:52:05 not um pay the price. Um Okay. So, mercy
00:52:10 claimth all that is her own, and that’s
00:52:13 because of the atonement. Okay. and
00:52:16 repentance.
00:52:19 And thus none but the truly repentant,
00:52:23 which is another word for
00:52:26 re who had repented
00:52:30 at least once. Okay. If not more,
00:52:33 um are saved.
00:52:35 >> Mhm.
00:52:38 >> Now,
00:52:39 >> oh wait a minute. You mean that mercy
00:52:40 only has a claim on those who are truly
00:52:42 penitent, i.e. truly uh having changed
00:52:45 their lives and living according to
00:52:46 Yahweh’s Yah Elohim’s mind and will i.e.
00:52:49 the law Torah.
00:52:51 >> I
00:52:53 so because of some technicalities of the
00:52:55 three degrees of glory, I would say it a
00:52:58 little different. It’s those who had
00:53:00 desired it at least once after their
00:53:04 water baptism.
00:53:06 Um
00:53:08 because in the parable of the sewers,
00:53:11 some the crow or demons took away the
00:53:14 seed.
00:53:15 >> Yeah. Um, okay.
00:53:18 >> So, but cuz saved or salvation is in the
00:53:22 kingdom or uh baptism of fire,
00:53:25 justification,
00:53:26 >> mercy, lots of names for the same thing.
00:53:30 Okay? These are not the sanctified that
00:53:33 have gone all the way and kept all of
00:53:35 Torah as they promised to do before they
00:53:37 were waterbaptized
00:53:39 by someone. So the be
00:53:44 so what he’s so with the saved
00:53:50 the saved are those who talk the talk
00:53:54 uh
00:53:55 well the saved are those who
00:53:59 said they wanted to repent uh and were
00:54:02 sincere
00:54:05 of that at least initially that later
00:54:08 maybe lost that desire or andor got
00:54:13 confused by the lies of men and Satan.
00:54:17 >> Yeah.
00:54:18 >> It’s the exalted that are the ones that
00:54:22 followed through all the way.
00:54:24 >> Okay. So, it’s like the the saved are
00:54:26 the ones who had a dream and the uh
00:54:28 exalt and the uh and the saints are
00:54:32 those who walked it out.
00:54:34 >> Correct. That actually worked for the
00:54:36 dream.
00:54:38 >> Yes, I would. Yes, that is good way pe
00:54:40 putting it. Yes. So, anyways, I think
00:54:44 that’s enough on that. So, let’s go back
00:54:46 unless someone wants to add some more.
00:54:50 Look,
00:54:52 let’s go back to the kayazm we’re
00:54:53 building here.
00:54:54 >> Okay. So, uh Vex, we fatherless.
00:55:00 Okay, so 23. Go ahead. I think that’s
00:55:03 just continuing the idea. I do believe
00:55:05 that these are just spelling out what’s
00:55:08 going to happen if you do uh vex the
00:55:12 widows and the f afflict the widows and
00:55:13 the fatherish if thou afflict them in
00:55:15 any wise.
00:55:16 >> Wait, I think this was Brennan reading.
00:55:18 >> Oh, is this Brennan? Okay.
00:55:20 >> Oh, no. Wait. Or was this this one was
00:55:21 me? I think I
00:55:22 >> No. Yeah, you were reading that.
00:55:24 >> I was reading. Sorry. My memory’s bad on
00:55:27 some things. If thou afflict them in any
00:55:30 wise, the the widows or the fatherless,
00:55:32 and they cry at all unto me, I will
00:55:36 surely surely hear their cry. Meaning I
00:55:41 if someone has um a widow or a
00:55:45 fatherless,
00:55:46 which actually DNC 87 says the church
00:55:51 are to help with and not their family.
00:55:58 contrary to what the alias church says
00:56:01 um
00:56:02 that Yahweh will hear their cry against
00:56:05 them meaning they’re sinning. Okay.
00:56:10 Now here help to go along with this the
00:56:13 sin that they’re committing and my wrath
00:56:17 now. Okay. Does the wrath go against the
00:56:20 righteous or the wicked?
00:56:23 Oh yeah it’s the wicked. Right. I mean,
00:56:26 I mean, I know that’s a dumb question,
00:56:28 but I’m trying to make a point here.
00:56:30 >> Well, yeah. You know, all you have to do
00:56:33 is look at the um I mean, one of the
00:56:36 things you can look at is who’s who’s
00:56:40 determined for the wrath in the uh in
00:56:42 the end times? Is it the righteous? Is
00:56:45 it those who are is it those who are
00:56:48 righteous living in Zion, living Torah?
00:56:50 No, you are not marked for wrath. This
00:56:54 is what You’ll be saved. That’s why
00:56:56 you’ll get raptured
00:56:58 >> into the clouds.
00:57:00 >> The people who are marked for wrath
00:57:03 >> are those who love this world more than
00:57:05 Yahw.
00:57:09 >> Yes. Um so but with it being wrath and
00:57:13 we’re talking about those who afflict
00:57:15 the widow and the fatherless that goes
00:57:17 along doing that is an actual sin
00:57:20 >> under
00:57:22 thou shalt not steal. Okay. Because
00:57:25 you’re stealing tithing and justice from
00:57:28 them.
00:57:30 >> Okay. And my wax shall and my wrath
00:57:33 shall wax hot and I will kill you. Now
00:57:36 it’s kill and not murder because it’s a
00:57:39 capital offense meaning capital
00:57:42 punishment for this. Okay. With the
00:57:46 sword. And your wives shall be widows
00:57:50 and your children fatherless. So you
00:57:52 didn’t take care of the widow and the
00:57:53 fatherless, but now your wife and your
00:57:56 children are going to be fatherless
00:57:58 because you deserve death.
00:58:00 >> Mhm.
00:58:01 >> So now, how do you think your children
00:58:05 will like it and your wife will like
00:58:07 what you’ve been doing?
00:58:11 >> Bringing out the double standard here
00:58:13 that they’re applying. Okay.
00:58:18 >> Uh okay. So, I’m going to keep reading
00:58:20 cuz money has to do with stealing. Uh
00:58:23 25. If you lend money to any of my
00:58:26 people that is poor by the Okay, wait a
00:58:29 minute.
00:58:31 So, there’s a lot of people that think
00:58:34 lending money is wrong.
00:58:39 The fact that he is here saying that you
00:58:42 can do this
00:58:45 but just Oh, let me continue. Thou shalt
00:58:47 not be unto him a usure. And a user is
00:58:51 someone who charges too much interest.
00:58:56 >> It’s not that you charge any interest.
00:58:58 It’s that you charge too much.
00:59:00 >> Yeah. There there’s um a lot of interest
00:59:05 practice in the world today is very
00:59:07 usurious
00:59:10 >> especially when it comes to payday loans
00:59:12 and other things of that natur.
00:59:13 >> Oh yeah. Stuff like that. um and credit
00:59:16 cards of like 30% and stuff like that.
00:59:19 That’s
00:59:19 >> usery.
00:59:20 >> Um so let me finish the verse. Neither
00:59:23 shalt thou lay upon him usery. So usery
00:59:26 is charging too much interest or in
00:59:30 other words taking too much for him
00:59:33 borrowing your money. And taking too
00:59:35 much is a form of stealing because
00:59:38 you’re taking more from him than is
00:59:42 >> allowed by Yahweh. Mhm.
00:59:45 >> Thus, you’re taking what’s his and thus
00:59:48 stealing.
00:59:49 >> And so under do not steal. Okay. Go
00:59:53 ahead, B.
00:59:53 >> The the interesting thing about this is
00:59:55 that there is there there’s a
00:59:58 commandment for restitution for stealing
01:00:01 as well, and that is that you pay I
01:00:05 forget exactly how much. Well, it
01:00:08 depends on the circumstances, but in
01:00:12 >> in addition to what the value of what
01:00:14 was stolen.
01:00:15 >> Yeah. Yeah. So, on what Ben’s got.
01:00:17 First, you give back what was taken and
01:00:20 then you give more uh back depending on
01:00:23 some of the other circumstances to pay
01:00:26 back your
01:00:29 wicked intent. So, you’re paying back
01:00:31 for two things, what you took and your
01:00:33 wicked intent.
01:00:35 Mhm.
01:00:35 >> And depending on some of the various
01:00:37 details of the wicked intent will depend
01:00:40 on how much addition you need to uh give
01:00:45 back to write that wrong. Okay.
01:00:47 >> Yeah.
01:00:49 >> Uh okay. So I think I just 25. I’ll do
01:00:52 26.
01:00:54 If thou at all take thy neighbors
01:00:57 reignment as pledge. So Raymond is their
01:01:00 close, right?
01:01:02 >> Mhm. Um or maybe an blanket or something
01:01:06 like that that he uses to keep warm at
01:01:08 night. Okay. Right.
01:01:10 >> Which I think is or or so back in the
01:01:14 old days sometimes they wore multiple
01:01:17 clothes more layering
01:01:20 um than we do today. Um and the
01:01:23 raignment could be the extra or the
01:01:26 second. Okay.
01:01:28 Because they’re not going around naked.
01:01:30 >> So the
01:01:32 Yeah.
01:01:33 But in today’s world, what’s going up?
01:01:35 It could be like a blanket. Okay.
01:01:38 >> Right.
01:01:38 >> Uh, thou shalt
01:01:39 >> more often more often we’re talking like
01:01:41 a cloak or a u just an outer garment.
01:01:46 >> Yeah. Yeah. And this goes even along
01:01:48 with sermon on Torah as I prefer to call
01:01:50 it or sermon on the mount as most people
01:01:53 call it um because of the location. But
01:01:56 guess what? Moses received Torah on Oh
01:02:00 yeah. Mount. Well, yeah, go figure.
01:02:03 >> Yeah, and it’s actually the same timing,
01:02:06 too. Um, and scholars will tell you
01:02:09 that, but anyways. Um, thou shalt
01:02:12 deliver it unto him by the sun goeth
01:02:16 down. So, this is talking. So, when the
01:02:19 sun goes down, it gets cold. So, he
01:02:21 needs extra clothing to stay warm. Okay.
01:02:25 >> Um, hope they’re homeless.
01:02:28 >> Yeah. And then a pledge is basically
01:02:32 uh they’ve they owe you money here have
01:02:36 this as a pledge or uh if
01:02:42 trying to remember the long terms in
01:02:44 today’s world uh
01:02:46 the
01:02:47 >> promise a promisory note
01:02:49 >> or a promise uh promisory note or a
01:02:52 guarantee as in if you don’t pay this
01:02:55 loan you you get the car or the house
01:03:00 with a mortgage
01:03:02 >> or whatever physical real property that
01:03:05 you guaranteed the loan with. Right.
01:03:08 >> Collateral. In other words,
01:03:10 >> collateral. Yes. The Thank you, Ben.
01:03:11 Collateral. It’s the collateral. Okay.
01:03:15 >> Um but if the pledge or collateral is
01:03:18 his extra clothes or blanket to stay
01:03:21 warm at night, you need to let him have
01:03:24 it back at night and then get it back
01:03:25 from him in the morning. Okay? So that
01:03:27 way he doesn’t die so he can um work on
01:03:32 paying you back and you’re not um
01:03:35 stealing a life, right?
01:03:38 >> Yeah.
01:03:38 >> Anyways, okay. So let me read 27.
01:03:43 For that is his covering only. Okay. So
01:03:46 this goes along with the blanket or the
01:03:48 extra clothing, right? It is his
01:03:50 raignment for his skin to keep warm,
01:03:53 right?
01:03:54 >> Wherein shall he sleep? both. So there
01:03:56 you go. Even at night time um with the
01:03:59 sun going down and it shall come to pass
01:04:01 when he crith unto me that I will hear
01:04:04 for I am gracious. So you caused this
01:04:09 you’re
01:04:11 you didn’t cause that he was poor but
01:04:14 you’re afflicting the poor too far.
01:04:18 >> Yeah.
01:04:18 >> Okay. You’re making it too hard for the
01:04:20 poor. as in these uh payday
01:04:25 loans that give ridiculous they’re
01:04:28 probably like 300% a year rates. I I
01:04:31 don’t know what it is, but it’s it’s
01:04:32 ridiculous.
01:04:33 >> It’s it’s highway robbery pay.
01:04:35 >> Yeah. Yeah. Um and you give collateral
01:04:39 as in your um title to your car. Um it’s
01:04:44 highway robbery. So, let me read the
01:04:46 next one. I because I don’t remember it
01:04:48 has to do.
01:04:51 Okay. No, no. So, that’s it for
01:04:52 stealing. The 28 actually is something
01:04:55 we’ll talk about in a little bit. So,
01:04:57 >> Mhm.
01:04:58 >> Okay. So, um
01:05:01 we did 16 and 17. Oh, okay. So, we got
01:05:07 Murder
01:05:09 in 18 with the new translation. We got
01:05:14 do not steal 19 and
01:05:18 >> oh wait sorry
01:05:19 >> do not do not commit adultery.
01:05:20 >> Do not commit adultery. Sorry 19 and 20
01:05:23 and then 16 and 17 which starts the
01:05:25 kayaism 21 through 27 we get do not
01:05:32 steal and sub divisions of do not steal.
01:05:36 Correct.
01:05:37 >> Right.
01:05:38 >> Okay. So, I’m going to pause a minute to
01:05:40 find out where we need to start at the
01:05:42 um on the other part instead of kind of
01:05:44 moving up backwards just to make it a
01:05:46 little nicer. So, hold on one second.
01:05:52 Okay, so we did a quick review together
01:05:56 and we found out where the stealing
01:05:58 section um above
01:06:02 starts. uh and it starts in the previous
01:06:05 chapter in Exodus 21:33.
01:06:10 Now
01:06:11 there are some various weird
01:06:15 commandments in today’s world but it
01:06:18 basically goes along the lines of
01:06:20 stealing either purposely
01:06:24 or because you did not uh take care of
01:06:29 something that’s reasonably should be
01:06:31 have thoughten through and thus
01:06:34 because of your negligence I can you say
01:06:38 that word for me I negligence.
01:06:40 >> Thank you. Um,
01:06:44 your neighbor lost value. Thus, you
01:06:47 stole from him because you didn’t want
01:06:49 to put forth the effort. Okay.
01:06:51 >> Right.
01:06:53 >> The first thing that we’re going to read
01:06:54 about is just in that vein entirely.
01:06:58 >> Okay. So, go ahead. Uh, Ben’s going to
01:06:59 read uh Exodus 21 through33 through
01:07:03 Exodus 22
01:07:05 I think 15 or something like that if I
01:07:07 remember correct.
01:07:08 >> Yeah. Yeah. Starting in verse 33.
01:07:18 Okay. And if a man dig shall open a pit
01:07:21 or
01:07:22 >> which is basically digging.
01:07:23 >> Yeah. Or if a man shall dig a pit. So he
01:07:26 he lets he he basically puts that out
01:07:30 there and not cover it
01:07:33 and an oer and an ox or an ass fall
01:07:36 therein. and the owner of the pit and
01:07:39 then the owner of the pit shall make it
01:07:40 good and give money unto the owner of
01:07:42 them and the and the dead beast shall be
01:07:45 his.
01:07:46 >> So basically be uh he did a he because
01:07:50 he of his negligent uh
01:07:53 >> negligence.
01:07:54 >> Yes. Thank you. He uh uh decided to do a
01:07:59 trade when there was a problem. Money
01:08:01 for the dead beast, right?
01:08:04 >> Because otherwise it’s stealing. He took
01:08:06 value away from somebody else because he
01:08:09 didn’t want to put forth the correct and
01:08:11 proper effort.
01:08:13 >> And it’s really not that hard to put a
01:08:15 covering over a pit.
01:08:17 >> No. A and uh um even in today’s world
01:08:22 insurance example here, if you have a
01:08:25 swimming pool and you don’t have a way
01:08:27 to cover the swimming pool, they don’t
01:08:30 want to cover your swimming pool.
01:08:33 >> Mhm. I here’s an example of it from
01:08:36 Torah. And so if you’re okay with an
01:08:38 insurance doing it and not Yahweh, you
01:08:41 have a double standard.
01:08:45 And if one man’s ox hurt anothers that
01:08:47 he die, then they shall sell the live ox
01:08:51 and divide the money of it, and the dead
01:08:53 ox also dead ox also shall they shall
01:08:57 divide.
01:08:59 Or if he known Or if if it be known that
01:09:03 the ox hath used to push in times past
01:09:08 and his owner hath not kept him in, he
01:09:11 shall surely pay ox for ox, and the dead
01:09:15 shall be his own. So basically, um I if
01:09:20 your ax hurt somebody’s and you and it’s
01:09:23 the first time,
01:09:25 uh do your best to kind of
01:09:29 >> make a match
01:09:30 >> 5050. Put some effort into to make it
01:09:32 good with the owner. Um but it’s kind of
01:09:35 like I guess you could say it’s kind of
01:09:37 5050, right? Right.
01:09:39 >> Agree. Uh but if it’s done it before,
01:09:43 it’s your fault because you should have
01:09:45 known better.
01:09:47 >> So it kind of goes off of accident
01:09:50 versus neglig I can’t
01:09:53 >> negligence.
01:09:54 >> Thank you. So yeah, so the the thing is
01:09:56 is in that instance he the live ox would
01:09:59 become the property of the person
01:10:03 who whose ox was killed and the dead ox
01:10:08 would now become the property of the
01:10:10 person whose ox killed that ox.
01:10:13 >> Yeah. Yeah. So it’s kind of a trade,
01:10:15 right?
01:10:17 >> All right. So now we’re in Exodus 22 for
01:10:20 a bit.
01:10:21 >> Okay. Now, if a man shall steal an ox or
01:10:26 a sheep and kill it or sell it, he shall
01:10:30 restore five oxen for an ox and four
01:10:33 sheep for a sheep.
01:10:35 >> So, this is where it gets where we
01:10:37 talked about earlier. You you need to
01:10:40 give back more than what you took when
01:10:41 you had mal intent. Okay.
01:10:45 >> Yes.
01:10:46 If a thief be found breaking up and he
01:10:49 and be smitten that he die, there shall
01:10:52 be no blood there shall no blood be shed
01:10:54 for him.
01:10:56 If the son be risen upon him,
01:10:59 there shall be blood shed for him. Where
01:11:02 he should make full restitution.
01:11:04 If he have if he have nothing, then he
01:11:07 shall be sold for his theft.
01:11:11 And if the theft be certainly found in
01:11:13 his hand alive, whether it be an ox or
01:11:15 an ass or a sheep, he shall restore
01:11:17 double. So, so in this instance, you
01:11:21 have somebody who stole something and it
01:11:24 died
01:11:26 or he sold it on.
01:11:29 Um,
01:11:32 in the event, what this is saying that
01:11:34 in the event that um
01:11:38 that he got busted up
01:11:42 and died,
01:11:45 no vengeance is called for.
01:11:48 >> Yeah. So, uh, if in the process of
01:11:52 trying to get your sheep back, um, if
01:11:55 the thief dies,
01:11:58 >> it’s not murder.
01:12:00 >> Yeah.
01:12:01 >> Right. And this son be risen upon him
01:12:04 and whatnot. This is a funny phrase. It
01:12:07 goes along if you know his intent or
01:12:08 not. Um,
01:12:10 so it’s um
01:12:14 there’s some old idioms that have been
01:12:17 forgotten in some of these verses that
01:12:19 people love to focus on to try to show
01:12:23 that uh Torah because this is Torah
01:12:26 because this is eternal here. Um and and
01:12:30 so what’s going on here? Yes, it’s being
01:12:32 applied in this case that’s common in
01:12:36 Moses’s day, but it’s still valid today
01:12:40 even in this way in addition to more.
01:12:44 Okay. Yeah.
01:12:45 >> Now the judges when they did judgments
01:12:48 they didn’t only look at the examples
01:12:51 they took the principles and applied it
01:12:53 because uh as Mosiah
01:12:57 no as King Benjamin sorry but it’s in
01:12:59 the book of Mosiah brings out how um we
01:13:03 can sin numerous
01:13:06 or um
01:13:08 >> I can’t remember the exact
01:13:10 >> diverse ways.
01:13:11 >> Diverse ways as in they all cannot be
01:13:13 listed. Okay. Meaning we need to follow
01:13:16 principles that goes with the
01:13:18 commandments. Okay.
01:13:20 >> Yeah.
01:13:20 >> Okay.
01:13:23 If Okay. He shall restore double. If a
01:13:26 man shall cause a field or vineyard to
01:13:29 be eaten, and shall put in his beast,
01:13:31 and shall feed it in another man’s field
01:13:33 of the best of his own field, and of the
01:13:36 best of his own vineyard, shall he make
01:13:39 restitution. So you can’t give your
01:13:42 worst stuff to try to pay someone back.
01:13:45 You have to give your best.
01:13:48 >> So this is not like a halfass
01:13:52 uh solution or effort.
01:13:56 >> Well, for your best effort to make
01:13:59 restitution.
01:14:00 >> Yeah. The other thing here is it’s
01:14:03 talking about should you not keep your
01:14:05 animals penned and they eat somebody and
01:14:08 they eat other people’s uh stuff.
01:14:11 >> Oh yeah. Yeah. As in going with um being
01:14:14 lazy or
01:14:16 >> negligent
01:14:17 >> or Yes. Thank you, Ben. I keep having a
01:14:19 hard time with that word for some
01:14:21 reason.
01:14:23 Anyways,
01:14:25 >> so yeah, so once again it’s you know the
01:14:31 not wanting to not wanting to take care
01:14:33 of your business is not an excuse in
01:14:35 Torah.
01:14:36 >> Correct. Um,
01:14:39 so if a fire if fire break out and catch
01:14:42 in and catch in thorns, so that the
01:14:45 stacks of corn or the standing corn or
01:14:47 the field be consumed therewith, he that
01:14:49 kindled the fire shall surely make
01:14:51 restitution.
01:14:53 >> Because he’s taking value from
01:14:56 um someone else
01:14:58 through his negligent practice in
01:15:00 keeping his fire,
01:15:03 he has caused somebody to lose value.
01:15:06 >> Yeah. Yeah. which goes along with do not
01:15:07 steal, right?
01:15:11 >> So, okay, what verse am I on now?
01:15:14 >> Seven. Seven.
01:15:15 >> Seven. If a man shall deliver unto his
01:15:17 neighbor money or stuff to keep, and it
01:15:19 be stolen from out of the man’s house,
01:15:21 if the thief be found, let him pay
01:15:23 double. That is the thief.
01:15:25 >> The thief pay double.
01:15:27 >> Yeah. Not the person who um not the
01:15:30 person
01:15:30 >> who’s holding it.
01:15:31 >> Who was holding it? If the thief be not
01:15:34 bound, then the master of the house
01:15:35 shall be brought onto the judges to see
01:15:38 whether or he have
01:15:41 put his hand onto his neighbor’s goods.
01:15:44 So that an investigation will be made.
01:15:46 >> Yeah. Seeing if the neighbor stole it or
01:15:48 not, right?
01:15:51 For all manner of trespass, whether it
01:15:53 be for ox, for ass, for sheep, for
01:15:56 raignment, or for any manner of lost
01:15:59 thing which another challengeth
01:16:02 to be his, the house of both parties
01:16:05 shall come before the judges, and whom
01:16:08 the judges shall condemn, he shall pay
01:16:10 double unto his neighbor.
01:16:13 Well, basically, if it is found out this
01:16:16 uh the other party stole from the first
01:16:20 party, he’s got to um give back what he
01:16:24 took. Yep.
01:16:25 >> And then more to pay back for his uh
01:16:30 wrong intent.
01:16:32 >> Yep. If a man deliver unto his neighbor
01:16:36 an ass or an ox or a sheep or any beast
01:16:40 to keep and it die or be hurt or driven
01:16:44 away, no man seeing it, th then shall an
01:16:50 oath of y be made between them both,
01:16:54 that he hath not put his hand onto his
01:16:57 neighbors goods, and the owner of it
01:17:00 shall accept thereof, and shall shall
01:17:03 not make it and he shall not make it
01:17:05 good.
01:17:06 >> So this is when your word was your bond
01:17:10 or um
01:17:12 uh you keep your word right? If you are
01:17:16 a disciple of Yeshua, your word will be
01:17:20 your bond. And you saying that you did
01:17:23 and you swearing an oath on Oh, by the
01:17:26 way,
01:17:27 uh this is swearing an oath upon the
01:17:30 Lord upon.
01:17:35 So this is part of and you ha you have
01:17:40 to be you have to be so absolutely
01:17:42 certain that there is no wrongdoing on
01:17:46 your part should you lose something that
01:17:49 you borrow.
01:17:50 >> Well no he was this is not
01:17:54 >> someone’s watching it for
01:17:55 >> yeah that you were watching for
01:17:57 somebody. Sorry, that’s
01:17:58 >> like they went on vacation, right?
01:18:00 >> Yeah. You were watching something and if
01:18:02 you are so you have you need to be so
01:18:04 absolutely positively sure that you have
01:18:09 done nothing wrong with that
01:18:12 >> including neg
01:18:14 >> including negligence.
01:18:15 >> Yes. Thank you, Ben. I don’t know why I
01:18:17 have a hard time.
01:18:18 >> Um that you can swear
01:18:22 upon
01:18:25 that you have done nothing wrong.
01:18:26 >> Yeah. Now, um, a lot of I do want to say
01:18:29 this. Daniel 12 dealing with second
01:18:33 coming events has the mighty strong one
01:18:35 swearing an oath. Um, which goes along
01:18:39 with how a lot of people misinterpret
01:18:41 things from sermon on Torah, more known
01:18:43 as sermon on the mount on swearing. And
01:18:45 I’ll just leave it at that for now
01:18:46 because that’s another side subject. We
01:18:49 don’t need more.
01:18:49 >> It’s a side subject.
01:18:50 >> Yeah.
01:18:52 >> Okay.
01:18:53 >> Okay. So, I think we’re next. Okay. And
01:18:57 if it be stolen from him, he shall make
01:18:59 restitution unto the owner thereof. If
01:19:01 it be torn in pieces, then let him bring
01:19:05 it or witness, and he shall not make
01:19:08 good that which was torn. And if a man
01:19:11 borrow ought of his neighbor, and be
01:19:14 hurt, and it be hurt, or die, the owner
01:19:17 thereof being not with it,
01:19:20 he shall surely make good. But if the
01:19:23 owner thereof be with it, he shall not
01:19:26 make it good, if it be if it be an hired
01:19:32 thing, it came for his hire.
01:19:37 So basically uh if something happens
01:19:39 with animals, he was in charge of if he
01:19:42 was neg ne
01:19:45 >> negligent,
01:19:46 >> he he is responsible to pay it back. But
01:19:50 if he was doing his duty, he’s not.
01:19:54 >> Right. And that’s even common within
01:19:56 jobs, right? Or
01:19:57 >> Yeah.
01:19:58 >> What not. So I it that’s a common
01:20:02 practice even today. It’s just um here
01:20:06 it’s worded in a way uh dealing with
01:20:09 things that um
01:20:12 with sheep herders, animal um
01:20:16 keepers are more familiar with. It’s the
01:20:19 same idea there. There shouldn’t be any
01:20:21 issue with that even in modern world.
01:20:24 Okay. So, so far we have
01:20:27 >> all that all that was stealing.
01:20:30 >> Yes. All that was stealing
01:20:32 >> some form or of some form or fashion.
01:20:34 >> Yeah. So, we have murder in the middle
01:20:36 and then we have two sexuals um around
01:20:40 the murder of the new translation and
01:20:44 then two stealings
01:20:47 uh around those. Right. So, let’s go
01:20:51 look at 28. I don’t know how long we
01:20:53 need to read, but Brennan, will you read
01:20:55 28 through? We’ll find out.
01:21:00 Thou shalt not revile against God, nor
01:21:04 curse the ruler of thy people.
01:21:06 >> Okay. So, real quick, that is the first
01:21:10 division of Torah or commandment.
01:21:12 Correct.
01:21:13 >> Mhm.
01:21:14 Yeah. So, and that is the Let’s go
01:21:18 review our little table here. Okay.
01:21:21 Because sometimes I’ll admit sometimes I
01:21:24 get the numbers wrong myself. Um but uh
01:21:29 reviling
01:21:30 >> correlates to murder.
01:21:32 >> Yes. So one going against Yahweh goes
01:21:36 along with do not murder.
01:21:40 Okay. So let’s look real quick to see if
01:21:43 we need to read the next verse or not
01:21:44 because I really don’t know. Uh
01:21:49 no I don’t think so. Um, so, uh, let’s
01:21:53 pause for a minute and see how far up
01:21:55 above we need to read. So, let’s figure
01:21:59 that out.
01:22:02 Okay. So, it looks like we need to start
01:22:05 at Exodus 21 28 for murder. Okay. And I
01:22:11 I’ll think it’s my turn to read.
01:22:13 >> Okay. If an ox gore
01:22:17 uh so gore I is a kill. Okay.
01:22:21 >> Gore. Gore is when the ax runs somebody
01:22:25 through with its horns.
01:22:27 >> Well, okay. So I was right. Which is
01:22:29 killing him. Okay. Because that will
01:22:31 kill him.
01:22:32 >> Well, not necessarily. It won’t
01:22:35 necessarily kill. So that’s why it’s so
01:22:38 important. The next phrase is so
01:22:40 important because if it was an automatic
01:22:41 kill, uh he wouldn’t have to say um
01:22:45 >> die. Okay, valid point there. Um so he
01:22:49 could be uh minimum majorly
01:22:54 hurt which then there would be other
01:22:56 consequences. But here it is
01:22:59 specifically talking about dying which
01:23:01 would be thus the animal or ox in this
01:23:06 case killed the man.
01:23:08 >> It hath committed murder.
01:23:12 Uh
01:23:14 >> I I so murder implies intent.
01:23:19 >> I I don’t know if the animal can have
01:23:21 that intent. Um in addition, you can’t
01:23:24 murder a human cannot murder a fly
01:23:27 because it has to do with
01:23:28 >> humans. So uh I I know people would like
01:23:32 to claim nowadays you can murder a fly,
01:23:35 but that’s from the technical definition
01:23:39 of the word. You can not.
01:23:43 >> But I think I am going to just point out
01:23:44 that I was joking.
01:23:46 >> Oh, okay. All right. All right. All
01:23:47 right. Okay. We do like to have some fun
01:23:50 here. That for sure.
01:23:52 >> Um there is learning the word and having
01:23:54 fun at the same time, right?
01:23:57 >> Yes. Exactly.
01:23:58 >> Anyways, okay. So, if an ox uh ram a man
01:24:03 or a woman, I that’s a good replacement,
01:24:06 right? Rammit it.
01:24:07 >> Yeah. um that they die. Then the ox
01:24:10 shall be surely stoned.
01:24:13 Now uh not put to death anyway, but
01:24:16 stoned. Okay, stoning is from Torah and
01:24:21 it is still valid. Uh if it wasn’t, it
01:24:25 would be sinful to fire and brim stone
01:24:30 the earth in the second coming. Okay.
01:24:33 >> So, in order to stone the ox, could one
01:24:36 use larger stones?
01:24:38 >> NO, it doesn’t say a size
01:24:42 >> though. I mean, we should not add or
01:24:44 take away from Yahweh’s law. So, I see
01:24:48 nothing about a particular size.
01:24:52 Hence, that’s why Venus and Mars will be
01:24:55 and Saturn will be valid. But anyway,
01:24:58 sorry. Um there actually is stuff coming
01:25:01 from uh those three planets, not the
01:25:04 planets themselves, but anyways,
01:25:07 it’s the asteroids coming from it.
01:25:09 >> The stuff in their trail.
01:25:10 >> Yes, it’s Yeah. Okay. Anyways, and his
01:25:13 flesh shall not be eaten. Um but the
01:25:17 owner of the ox shall be quiet as in he
01:25:19 should not complain or
01:25:22 try to get it not to happen. Right.
01:25:25 >> Mhm. Um because he com it committed
01:25:31 a killing which goes under murder. Okay.
01:25:35 >> Which goes along Oh, wait. Let’s go
01:25:37 double check. What does murder go with
01:25:39 again?
01:25:41 Just
01:25:43 Oh, yeah. It has to do with Yahweh
01:25:45 Elohim.
01:25:46 >> Yeah.
01:25:47 >> Which is what we had just before, right?
01:25:51 Interestingly enough, uh the entire uh
01:25:55 house of Israel was gored by a golden
01:25:57 calf that they died.
01:26:00 >> The Yes. In fact, maybe that’s perhaps a
01:26:04 deeper reason why they’re talking about
01:26:06 the ox here, right? Um that’s a a good
01:26:10 point there you brought up there, Ben.
01:26:12 Thank you. Um okay, so I think I’m on
01:26:17 29. Yes. But if the ox were want to push
01:26:22 his horn in time past. So this is a
01:26:25 weird way of saying if it’s done it in
01:26:27 the past to he didn’t kill anybody but
01:26:30 it’s been shown that he likes to want to
01:26:34 or maybe even did but they didn’t die.
01:26:38 Right.
01:26:40 >> And it hath been testified to his owner.
01:26:42 So the owner knows about it. and he hath
01:26:46 not kept him in or as in put him in um
01:26:49 on a rope or in a fence. Okay.
01:26:53 But he the owner Oh, wait. No, this
01:26:57 would be the uh ox. Sorry. Have killed a
01:27:00 man or a woman. The ox shall be stoned.
01:27:03 So, the ox uh has the same
01:27:07 consequence or end as before. I don’t
01:27:11 know if consequence is the right word,
01:27:13 but it’s okay. Right. But now here,
01:27:16 >> by the way, when it says that the owner
01:27:17 shall be quit in the previous example,
01:27:19 that means that the owner shall not be
01:27:21 held responsible for the activities of
01:27:23 the auction.
01:27:24 >> Oh, okay. Um, sorry, I said the wrong
01:27:27 thing. Thank you for the correction
01:27:28 there, Ben, which is actually important
01:27:30 for this next part of 29, right?
01:27:34 Uh, the ox will be put to death by
01:27:36 stoning and his owner shall be put to
01:27:39 death also.
01:27:42 And I would say by stoning also the same
01:27:45 way because
01:27:48 um if the owner of the ox knew that the
01:27:51 ox had this tendency
01:27:54 uh he allowed someone to lose their life
01:27:58 because of his neg I
01:28:02 >> negligence. Thank you, Ben. I don’t know
01:28:04 why I have a hard time with that one.
01:28:07 >> That’s because of the two different G
01:28:09 sounds.
01:28:10 >> Uh, that could be. Um, so he’s
01:28:13 responsible for that death which goes
01:28:16 underneath murder. Okay.
01:28:19 >> U 30. If there be laid on him a sum of
01:28:23 money, then he shall give for the ransom
01:28:27 of his life, whatsoever is laid upon
01:28:30 him. So
01:28:32 I
01:28:35 this seems to indicate that a fine could
01:28:37 be levied in this place.
01:28:38 >> Yeah. Instead of murder or or being put
01:28:41 to death.
01:28:42 >> Um so it it probably
01:28:46 depends on
01:28:49 the family of the victim if they’re
01:28:53 willing to accept that or not. Okay.
01:28:55 >> Right. And also it depends upon the
01:28:58 leniency of the judge. Uh yes. Yes,
01:29:01 because the judge has to allow it. Um so
01:29:05 um
01:29:08 there could be various factors in that.
01:29:10 So we’ll just leave it at that. Right.
01:29:12 So okay 31. Whether he has gourd a son.
01:29:17 So the ox gourd a son or gourd a
01:29:20 daughter according to this judge shall
01:29:23 it be done unto him. So if he died,
01:29:28 uh, he will die, right?
01:29:32 >> If the ox shall push a man’s servant or
01:29:35 a maid servant, he shall give unto his
01:29:39 master
01:29:40 >> unto them
01:29:41 >> their master
01:29:42 >> their master uh 30 sickles of silver and
01:29:45 the ox shall be stoned. So this is just
01:29:48 where um it’s not murder but almost
01:29:52 murder where he harms a servant that’s
01:29:56 underneath a master. And that the reason
01:30:01 you pay the master is because those uh
01:30:05 servants became servants
01:30:08 to pay back a debt
01:30:11 >> that they owed to the master. And now
01:30:13 that servant can’t work and pay that
01:30:16 debt. So that’s why it’s going to the
01:30:19 master because otherwise without that
01:30:22 background
01:30:24 that could sound kind of like
01:30:28 cruel. Okay. Yeah. So if it’s a free
01:30:31 person
01:30:33 oxen owner like possible deny if it’s
01:30:37 just if it’s a slave
01:30:40 >> no I would I think sir
01:30:42 >> I know I know what you would say
01:30:45 I’m purposefully taking the the way that
01:30:49 they would look at it
01:30:51 >> okay I’ll I’ll shut up for a minute then
01:30:53 >> if it’s a slave
01:30:55 oh just pay just pay the guy pay the guy
01:30:59 30 shekels. You’re good.
01:31:04 >> Okay. All right. So, um, so if it’s a
01:31:06 free man, it doesn’t specifically
01:31:09 specify how much to pay, but it’s
01:31:11 probably 30 sickles also. Um, I I I I
01:31:15 don’t know. I I can see
01:31:18 w with it being a a servant that it
01:31:21 needs to be that amount. It goes to the
01:31:23 master be that amount if it’s a free
01:31:25 man. But okay, now we start getting to
01:31:28 33, which was going along with the um
01:31:33 stealing. Okay, so
01:31:35 >> what we have here is murder on the
01:31:37 outside.
01:31:38 >> Yep.
01:31:40 theft as the second layer,
01:31:44 adultery as a third layer, but the very
01:31:47 center being murder again outside
01:31:49 >> with the new translation with
01:31:52 >> with the new translation
01:31:54 >> uh which actually considering how the
01:31:58 edges and the centers of the kaisms are
01:32:01 highly related if not the same thing
01:32:05 completely makes sense, right? Because a
01:32:08 witch is the third division of Torah,
01:32:12 not the first or six as you’ll see on
01:32:14 these edges here.
01:32:19 >> Yeah.
01:32:20 >> So,
01:32:21 >> in order for the in order, in other
01:32:22 words, in order for the kayazm to be
01:32:24 complete, the stuff on the outside has
01:32:26 to be either first or sixth because
01:32:30 right at the center is first or sixth. I
01:32:33 so I would say it a little different and
01:32:35 I think um because the edges are
01:32:40 uh one or six the center needs to be re
01:32:45 related to one or six.
01:32:46 >> Okay. Yeah, that I I yeah I can Yeah, I
01:32:50 can see that.
01:32:50 >> Yeah, we’re doing this on the fly. So it
01:32:52 it sometimes on the fly um in the moment
01:32:56 we all say things wrong and so do I.
01:32:59 Okay.
01:32:59 >> Yeah.
01:33:00 >> Um which I do. Oops. Do you believe
01:33:04 supports Joseph Smith correcting which
01:33:08 to murder to follow the pattern of
01:33:11 what’s going in the flow of the
01:33:13 divisions of Torah or the Ten
01:33:15 Commandments that’s going on as we just
01:33:17 showed in this kayazm. Um, if I had more
01:33:22 time, I would have actually
01:33:26 did it officially, but it it can take
01:33:28 with how big this is, it can take a bit
01:33:30 of time. And we just barely voted to do
01:33:34 this, so I didn’t have time.
01:33:37 >> Yeah. So,
01:33:38 >> so at least the major part of the kaism
01:33:41 you can see it’s kind of the inards that
01:33:43 would take uh the kaisms inside of the
01:33:46 stanzas that would have taken more time
01:33:49 to do
01:33:50 >> and now and now just to answer one last
01:33:54 pro one last thing that people bring up.
01:33:56 Okay,
01:33:58 >> they will say that Joseph Smith changed
01:34:01 witch to uh and changed witch to
01:34:05 murderer
01:34:07 because
01:34:09 he himself practiced forms of
01:34:11 witchcraft. And this is actually put
01:34:14 forward in an accredited uh historical
01:34:18 book called Rough Stone Rolling.
01:34:21 >> Oh, that’s horrible. Um,
01:34:24 >> so the the facts of the matter are
01:34:27 this is not the case. He never practiced
01:34:30 witchcraft.
01:34:31 >> Yeah. It’s
01:34:32 >> the only people who say the only people
01:34:34 who claim that he practiced witchcraft
01:34:36 were people of very questionable
01:34:38 character.
01:34:39 >> Yes. And so they had a reason they had a
01:34:42 reason to hate him.
01:34:44 >> And uh and therefore their word should
01:34:47 not be given equal weight with those
01:34:51 with a uh with um
01:34:54 with cited sources who are either
01:34:57 neutral or favorable.
01:34:59 >> Yes. And um even in today’s courts they
01:35:03 do look at people’s motivations and
01:35:06 that’s partly done with
01:35:07 crossexaminations.
01:35:09 um to bringing out what their
01:35:11 motivations can be. Um now today’s
01:35:15 courts are not according to Torah on
01:35:18 multiple aspects but we won’t focus on
01:35:20 that. But I’m just bringing out the
01:35:21 point how
01:35:23 >> motivations
01:35:24 are dealt with even in within modern
01:35:28 courts in multiple ways.
01:35:31 >> Now
01:35:31 >> and in Torah they definitely are. Okay.
01:35:35 Furthermore,
01:35:37 if that was the case,
01:35:40 then why did none of the other
01:35:44 references condemning witchcraft in the
01:35:48 Bible get changed?
01:35:51 >> Correct. Including having three in the
01:35:54 Book of Mormon after the cross.
01:35:57 >> Yes.
01:35:59 So, I would say that this is a bogus
01:36:04 uh bogus argument that is used by those
01:36:06 who are either desperate or batshit
01:36:08 crazy.
01:36:10 I I I think a lot of it is they’re
01:36:13 desperate
01:36:14 and because they’re desperate, they see
01:36:17 one thing that they think supports their
01:36:20 theory. They forget to be thorough and
01:36:23 look everywhere else because they don’t
01:36:24 want to.
01:36:25 >> Right?
01:36:27 So, and so coupled with
01:36:31 coupled that coupled that with the
01:36:33 kayastic structure involved in the
01:36:36 construction of this statement from Ya
01:36:40 through Moses.
01:36:45 The fact that murder serves that better
01:36:48 than which murderer serves that better
01:36:52 than which?
01:36:57 I do believe
01:37:00 that Ya intended to put that what was
01:37:04 intended by Yoha was murderer not witch
01:37:08 in this circumstance in this instance
01:37:12 right here in what we today know as
01:37:14 Exodus 22:18
01:37:16 now I ag um
01:37:20 the current manuscripts
01:37:23 do have which But uh there are
01:37:28 transcribable errors on accident and
01:37:31 purpose at times. I do believe
01:37:35 um that the original was murder because
01:37:40 I I will say two reasons. Uh I do
01:37:43 believe Joseph Smith was a holy prophet.
01:37:47 Um I don’t know and this one was
01:37:50 probably either inspiration or
01:37:51 revelation here would be my educated
01:37:54 guess. maybe an angel told him. Uh but
01:37:57 then on top of that is the kayazm that
01:38:00 we just um roughly showed here, right?
01:38:04 >> Uh I say roughly because I didn’t go do
01:38:07 it um show it formally and do it all
01:38:11 out, but we did bring out the murder
01:38:15 still sexual murder
01:38:18 >> or or um murder as in humans or Yahweh,
01:38:23 right? Um
01:38:26 and and it just makes sense. Putting in
01:38:28 uh Yahweh’s name in vain does not follow
01:38:32 the pattern of the um sexual and
01:38:37 stealing that’s surrounding it. So,
01:38:42 but yes, I agree. Those who uh claim
01:38:45 that Joseph Smith is a witch are um
01:38:50 vengeful and hateful and people who
01:38:54 follow those statements would not want
01:38:58 the same standard of witnesses followed
01:39:00 with them as they’re doing with Joseph
01:39:02 Smith showing
01:39:04 they’re being very biased
01:39:08 >> at least.
01:39:09 >> Yes. So, um I I
01:39:13 take the kaism that we just showed here
01:39:16 as a witness that it is supposed to be
01:39:17 murder. And I I I don’t know what else
01:39:20 to say. Sorry.
01:39:24 I guess we say this the name of Yeshua
01:39:25 the Messiah. Amen.
01:39:27 >> Amen.