Scripture Study 2023-01-20

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Chess has occult ideas in it. Ruth is a wonderful book. Talk about symbolic meanings of mountains. Bring out some imagery with Nephi building the ship. Second Coming of Yeshua proves stoning is still valid. I believe the Second Coming will start with Passover. Parable of the 10 virgins also points to Passover. More we know Yeshua, the more we will see Him in the scriptures. Scriptures shows blessings and cursings from Torah. Talk about Ruth, Boaz and Niomi some. Burning in the Bosom. Baptism of Fire. Torah is part of what is next. My first rebaptism there was a significant change. Limihites delayed Baptism. Take people by the hand and bring them to heaven with you. Looked at part of my Daniel 9 chiasmus which bringing out how Yeshua took away the effects of sin along with John 4:18. Yeshua atonement is what the law of Moses points to. Most twist Daniel 9 into something that it is not. Bring out a chiasmus in JST John 1:1-19 together. Bringing out chiasmi helps us understand the scriptures more. JST John 1:1-19 chiasmu would not be possible without the JST. Law of Moses and Torah are two different things. The Father IS the Son. Mental gymnastics are fun to watch. Talk about palm reading a little. YHWH is teaching me His symbolic language. Talked about slavery some. All things are spiritual. Learn truth / Torah over conspiracies. The purpose of life is to keep YHWH’s Torah and help others to do the same.

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00:00:02 So speaking of Queen of Heaven okay so
00:00:06 I’ve known for a while the chess game is
00:00:08 actually based off of occult teachings
00:00:11 so one one big obvious one is the black
00:00:15 and white checkerboard right so
00:00:19 uh one that I I I’m teaching my son just
00:00:22 because I actually do like the game I
00:00:24 think it’s good for thinking but I I has
00:00:26 its problems but anyways
00:00:28 um
00:00:29 there’s this reverence of the queen for
00:00:32 example the way that you remember what
00:00:35 where to put your queen queen gets her
00:00:37 own color as in reverence to the queen
00:00:41 as in reference to the Queen of Heaven
00:00:43 over the king of Heaven second verses
00:00:48 and the queen is actually
00:00:50 technically the most powerful piece on
00:00:52 the board right which is actually kind
00:00:54 of surface the most moves
00:00:57 in uh in the occult system it’s the
00:01:01 church the queen that controls
00:01:03 everything has the real power but it is
00:01:06 the state the king that’s kind of a
00:01:09 figurehead that can’t really do anything
00:01:10 on its own just like in the game
00:01:13 right wow that’s cool observation that’s
00:01:17 awesome so awesome there was a
00:01:21 there is a TV series
00:01:27 what was it
00:01:28 oh the Queen’s gabbit
00:01:30 oh yes yes Green’s gamut yeah yeah
00:01:34 terrible terrible series
00:01:37 I actually I thought it was a good
00:01:39 series actually
00:01:41 but
00:01:42 what I was good at is a whole nother
00:01:44 issue it was good at pushing right hold
00:01:48 very
00:01:50 good she learned in the basement from a
00:01:55 quiet old man
00:01:58 Satan
00:02:00 yeah also what helped her was taking
00:02:03 drugs witchcraft
00:02:07 to get her to have the vision to do what
00:02:09 she needed
00:02:10 which Torah speaks about against it and
00:02:14 actually the occult actually pushes you
00:02:16 to take these drugs it’s one of their
00:02:17 secrets that they push in these Gnostic
00:02:19 movies to take these drugs just like in
00:02:22 that one because uh it was
00:02:25 uh I don’t remember what it was but it
00:02:27 was some experimental drug they were
00:02:29 giving the kids right
00:02:31 token started having visions and then
00:02:33 they took it away and then she went and
00:02:35 got it again right but anyways
00:02:38 um
00:02:39 very well thought out
00:02:42 the problem is
00:02:45 I was talking about the content and
00:02:48 simply the content oh yeah yeah um
00:02:52 I I I I see it’s the biggest problem is
00:02:56 more what it’s teaching yeah the Gnostic
00:02:59 flavor is throughout the whole thing oh
00:03:02 of course she won when it was Winter
00:03:05 whose time is winter
00:03:10 the Satan’s
00:03:13 um anyways if people started paying
00:03:16 attention scriptures and even just the
00:03:19 movies that they love they would start
00:03:21 seeing these patterns but like you said
00:03:23 most people are sleeping when they’re
00:03:25 watching these things and they’re not
00:03:27 yep well yeah and the purpose of and
00:03:30 actually there’s very there’s very
00:03:31 specific things done to make sure that
00:03:33 people do fall asleep
00:03:35 yeah
00:03:36 mentally
00:03:37 oh yeah yeah
00:03:39 um for sure
00:03:41 hypnosis it’s a very well
00:03:46 tested technique and uh the elders
00:03:49 Church calls it heart cells
00:03:52 yeah
00:03:54 so I have a couple posts on that Darren
00:03:57 if you want I can give you the links and
00:03:59 Zach yeah that’d be awesome I’m still
00:04:01 trying to get in for my desktop computer
00:04:04 for some reason Facebook’s not coming
00:04:06 out but anyway
00:04:09 uh okay so
00:04:11 soon it’s in another movie I’ve seen
00:04:15 another movie with that actress
00:04:18 it’s called The Witch
00:04:22 yeah at the end of the movie she makes
00:04:25 it deal with the Devil
00:04:27 so this one is one that I deal with
00:04:32 heart cell
00:04:35 and then
00:04:45 uh this is a good resource page but this
00:04:48 is not the one I’m talking about but
00:04:49 it’s linked here
00:04:52 um
00:04:55 this one this deals with heart cell also
00:05:00 um
00:05:00 there there are side subjects on on
00:05:03 these things but most of my posts I put
00:05:05 lots of size subjects okay so it was
00:05:07 called the witch
00:05:13 yeah that’s it yeah
00:05:18 it’s kind of it’s very airy very
00:05:22 uh yeah that looks dark
00:05:26 gotta get used to I used to sort it be
00:05:29 into horror movies sort of
00:05:32 like and
00:05:35 no no I’m not anymore
00:05:38 uh I never liked it way too dark
00:05:42 uh movies I I did I used to go to
00:05:45 haunted houses I used to think they were
00:05:47 funny but I won’t go anymore
00:05:49 um
00:05:50 anyways but there’s another one yeah
00:05:55 terrifies me to death but oh not the
00:05:58 best but I like but it’s called
00:06:00 Insidious
00:06:02 I think I personally think that’s
00:06:06 it’s kind of about
00:06:09 like a glimpse into outer Darkness kind
00:06:12 of
00:06:14 uh that looks dark
00:06:17 um yeah it’s it’s horrifying incredibly
00:06:19 well I I think it’s good that it scared
00:06:23 you because some of these part of horror
00:06:25 movies
00:06:26 goal in my opinion is uh desensitizes us
00:06:30 like that that being right there with
00:06:33 their hands out there yeah
00:06:37 that really scared
00:06:38 well I I
00:06:41 sometimes whenever the architect my mind
00:06:43 just goes to that person’s
00:06:46 scares the crap yeah but I think but
00:06:48 yeah the thing about horror movies is
00:06:52 that they their purpose is to
00:06:53 desensitize but also at the same time
00:07:00 but also at the same time for the right
00:07:02 mindset they initiate so
00:07:05 um
00:07:06 Snow White
00:07:08 move uh just the story itself is not the
00:07:10 best but generally speaking most people
00:07:13 watch the child version of it and those
00:07:16 aren’t too bad but this this is a
00:07:18 commentary I did on an adult version so
00:07:21 it’s not quite like those that you were
00:07:23 showing me
00:07:25 but it might approach that a little bit
00:07:28 but not a whole bunch but
00:07:32 um you might enjoy that commentary I
00:07:34 have on it which I would say is pretty
00:07:36 good commentary the basics of it of any
00:07:39 snow white version because you know
00:07:41 everybody has their version of Snow
00:07:43 White
00:07:44 um most people just know the childish
00:07:46 kid version of it but anyways I I I see
00:07:50 issues with
00:07:52 tons of kids stories
00:07:54 in fact one one like I told you I’ve
00:07:57 been trying to figure out right bits and
00:07:59 pieces
00:08:01 huh
00:08:03 impeach so in the book Edition
00:08:07 um let me go grab it hold on
00:08:11 foreign
00:08:22 so what’s going on with the Bank of
00:08:24 America
00:08:26 I know it wasn’t that crazy
00:08:30 I do have the the overall gist of it
00:08:33 it’s talking about the Jesuits going to
00:08:36 the USA okay that’s overall gist of it
00:08:39 is
00:08:41 pieces I’m not really sure
00:08:44 um I think the movie’s better than the
00:08:46 shortened Edition
00:08:48 Kid book but I mean they all are a
00:08:51 little different
00:08:54 um yeah
00:09:01 so
00:09:04 I
00:09:05 this this black bird
00:09:08 so I realized the other day
00:09:11 I don’t know what event it is
00:09:14 but I do believe that’s betrayal of the
00:09:17 angel of Yahweh
00:09:19 fact
00:09:22 um you’ll see that betrayal
00:09:25 of the Angel Yahweh
00:09:27 and uh here let’s
00:09:34 share this sound
00:09:37 um
00:09:39 this one
00:09:44 uh let’s go put this in the chat
00:09:47 you’ll see that version of it here so
00:09:52 um
00:09:58 so Lindsay’s
00:10:00 um okay well give me the
00:10:05 um
00:10:08 okay so let’s
00:10:14 let’s do this
00:10:18 foreign
00:10:24 I’m not getting the hovers to see where
00:10:28 I want to go right
00:10:31 um so overall this one is about uh the
00:10:34 find key the five kingdoms okay so
00:10:38 um right now I’m looking for that
00:10:39 specific image
00:10:49 [Music]
00:10:52 foreign
00:10:53 [Music]
00:11:09 there we go
00:11:13 um
00:11:16 start the
00:11:20 [Music]
00:11:23 that’s the same image
00:11:26 mm-hmm
00:11:30 Yahweh I mean we can get into it but I
00:11:33 get into it yeah commentary it’s a half
00:11:36 hour it’s
00:11:38 it’s short compared to my other ones
00:11:42 well that’s because it’s a shorter video
00:11:44 yeah but I heard the the rate the the
00:11:49 amount that she consecrated or not uh
00:11:52 condensed into that is a higher rate
00:11:55 than these other ones even my longest
00:11:57 six hour home with the uh yeah yeah the
00:12:01 image the imagery is very concentrated
00:12:03 oh yeah she put a lot of thought into it
00:12:06 and she admits to that and some I link
00:12:08 to some of her interviews and she admits
00:12:10 that she uh she’s the one that
00:12:12 orchestrated it
00:12:15 yeah
00:12:16 look there’s the Beast with the two
00:12:18 horns on the left so
00:12:22 um but
00:12:24 [Music]
00:12:35 [Music]
00:12:39 I’m getting all this right
00:12:42 [Music]
00:12:55 foreign
00:12:56 [Music]
00:13:06 [Music]
00:13:23 Pillar of Fire
00:13:26 By Night pillar or Cloud by day anyways
00:13:29 we don’t have to keep getting into it
00:13:31 she is angry and she’s definitely
00:13:34 she’s angry at Yahweh because
00:13:38 the because
00:13:41 she’s a victim of SRA
00:13:44 yeah which is not his fault
00:13:48 um of course it’s not his fault but it’s
00:13:50 hard that’s where a lot of SRA victims
00:13:53 go
00:13:54 uh sure
00:13:57 um
00:13:57 anyways uh I don’t want to really focus
00:14:01 on that is if anything I want to focus
00:14:04 on anything it’d be people’s questions
00:14:05 and um maybe some insights that I’ve
00:14:09 come this week you guys have gotten this
00:14:11 week so it I was just kind of going off
00:14:13 the conversation uh we were going
00:14:15 through we were yeah we were going
00:14:17 through Ruth
00:14:18 oh I’ll tell you that is uh
00:14:22 Ruth is a Powerhouse bro
00:14:25 yeah yes you want to share some
00:14:29 um
00:14:30 like uh
00:14:33 friends I mean Ruth is very much
00:14:36 representational well she’s a real and a
00:14:40 representational character
00:14:42 let’s go
00:14:44 through it I mean it’s not like it’s a
00:14:46 terribly long book
00:14:49 but the first chapter is loaded first
00:14:52 and second chapters are loaded with
00:14:55 beautiful imagery of the Captiva that
00:14:58 God makes with his bride the church
00:15:05 yeah do you guys want to go through it
00:15:08 or do you want to do something yeah
00:15:09 let’s do it but uh do you want to do
00:15:11 Sacrament first though uh sure sure so
00:15:14 let’s pause we can do that okay hey
00:15:16 Darren yeah one question
00:15:20 um
00:15:20 okay go ahead so
00:15:23 the question would be
00:15:25 like
00:15:26 what role does
00:15:32 like
00:15:34 I I don’t know
00:15:35 this may not be related to the law as
00:15:37 much I think it could be but
00:15:40 um what role does like for example
00:15:42 getting out to the mountain play in
00:15:44 personal revelation if you get what I’m
00:15:46 saying
00:15:49 can you say it another way
00:15:51 okay so for example
00:15:55 um
00:15:56 there’s a lot of stories in scripture
00:15:58 right
00:16:00 about Lord commanding people to go to
00:16:03 the mountains
00:16:05 and there he visits them or he gives
00:16:08 them Revelation or what happened right
00:16:12 so yeah it was just
00:16:14 so I mean never mind don’t worry about
00:16:18 it so I think
00:16:19 no no Andrew this is fine you have a
00:16:22 question we are fellow Believers in the
00:16:25 Messiah and we are to help each other
00:16:27 right okay yeah you have a question
00:16:30 we’re gonna we’re gonna talk about it
00:16:32 so I I think it may vary from
00:16:35 um
00:16:36 instance to instance but in general and
00:16:39 we kind of went over this last week if
00:16:41 you want to go look at last week’s
00:16:43 recording okay but yeah uh I think when
00:16:46 we looked at all those examples of
00:16:48 mountains and we can do that again if
00:16:51 you
00:16:53 don’t want to go look at last week’s
00:16:55 recording but I would recommend it but a
00:16:58 general
00:17:00 emphasis I think of mountains is either
00:17:03 yahweh’s commands
00:17:06 or and I think it’s uh it’s a little
00:17:09 different than mountains high heels I
00:17:11 think yeah remember correctly mountains
00:17:14 is yahweh’s and high heels are
00:17:19 the counterfeit Satan’s the Pagan right
00:17:24 um as in to although they’re
00:17:29 I I think part of the reason why it’s
00:17:31 high hills even in the Pagan ways
00:17:34 because they think they’re they’re
00:17:35 highways right they’re high righteous
00:17:38 ways where things do it where the
00:17:40 mountains
00:17:41 I mean just look at the word mountains
00:17:44 are bigger and higher than Hills all
00:17:47 right yeah
00:17:48 um for sure just look at the imagery I I
00:17:51 mean okay so if you’re in the East what
00:17:54 you guys call mountains I call Little
00:17:56 Hills yeah those are Foothills yeah 100
00:18:01 so at one time
00:18:03 the adult one time before a scientific
00:18:07 process before the
00:18:09 before geologic processes took their
00:18:11 coal they were just as high as others
00:18:13 but they’re now they’re little Foothills
00:18:17 um that means that they’re older is that
00:18:19 what that means no so
00:18:22 like this
00:18:24 this is a
00:18:27 a proof of cassette catastrophism I
00:18:31 can’t say that um
00:18:33 yes that’s what I’m trying to
00:18:36 catastrophe system yes are you making
00:18:39 fun of it but
00:18:45 um I have a
00:18:49 I’m not going to try to spell it but I
00:18:51 do have
00:18:55 [Music]
00:18:58 I have a couple pages on it I need to
00:19:01 add more but my well yeah the the idea
00:19:03 that the polar configuration has it
00:19:08 um
00:19:08 [Music]
00:19:10 the lunar cycle change has a
00:19:16 and creation
00:19:18 creationism has it some
00:19:22 um
00:19:23 but
00:19:24 there’s a lot of things in history that
00:19:26 prove that versus
00:19:29 uniformitarianism yeah
00:19:32 that’s just not really supported when
00:19:34 you look at all the data it works when
00:19:36 you throw out things you don’t like
00:19:39 right of course that’s true with
00:19:41 scripture interpretations also it’s good
00:19:43 for a buffet right yeah uh
00:19:46 well
00:19:48 I I think I know what you mean but I
00:19:50 might say it a little differently but
00:19:52 anyways
00:19:53 um
00:19:54 sure but
00:19:56 um
00:19:57 yeah but okay the main thing is
00:20:01 um
00:20:02 mountains
00:20:04 relates to Commandments right yeah right
00:20:08 you go to the Lord’s Mountain we’re
00:20:10 always tortoise given
00:20:12 or re-given it to say it better
00:20:16 right
00:20:18 on a mountain
00:20:20 um
00:20:21 exactly
00:20:23 and just talk about the imagery how the
00:20:25 law perfects us
00:20:27 Mount Sinai is charred from the fire
00:20:32 yep
00:20:36 because if we keep it we will be
00:20:38 purified by fire
00:20:40 yep all right just like in the
00:20:42 scriptures say and
00:20:45 go ahead
00:20:46 so in the in that way
00:20:50 in order to receive personal revelation
00:20:53 more fully in your life one has to keep
00:20:56 the law
00:20:59 yeah
00:21:00 and so that’s the mountains that one has
00:21:03 to go to
00:21:05 yeah
00:21:06 yeah and um in the video we saw
00:21:11 um I I don’t know how much
00:21:13 Andrew saw we can wash it again if you
00:21:16 want
00:21:18 um in the beginning of it
00:21:20 uh the the girl that gets baptized the
00:21:23 woman
00:21:24 she gets out of the shack
00:21:26 and then goes down a little Hill
00:21:30 uh-huh to go get baptized
00:21:33 so I’m not going along with what you’re
00:21:35 kind of bringing up so
00:21:37 um I mean if we we can pause for a
00:21:38 minute and we can watch it
00:21:41 um
00:21:42 let’s see uh I gotta explain the right
00:21:45 button I really
00:21:48 I really like that uh I really like that
00:21:50 image at the end it’s like she’s
00:21:52 breathing her first breath so here’s
00:21:55 that connects to something I want to say
00:21:57 so just real quick hey Andrew you see
00:22:01 how he was going down the little Hill to
00:22:05 go get baptized which is a sign that now
00:22:07 we’re willing to follow Yeshua that’s
00:22:10 like the doctrine of Christ the doctrine
00:22:13 of the Messiah is first repentance
00:22:17 yeah then baptism
00:22:19 then the baptism fire which is
00:22:22 justification in the baptism of the Holy
00:22:26 Ghost which is sanctification
00:22:28 you go you meant what was wrong you
00:22:30 start at the bottom you work your way up
00:22:32 even Joe Smith said you have to start
00:22:33 the bottom work your way up right so
00:22:35 right
00:22:38 one big example of the uh and I’m going
00:22:40 off a rough memory we can go look it up
00:22:42 if you want but uh Nephi in the mountain
00:22:45 right when he was buildings across the
00:22:48 sea
00:22:56 he was on the mountain he created he
00:22:58 made a billow you know what a billow is
00:23:00 right
00:23:01 where you’re you blow the air yep yeah
00:23:04 yeah
00:23:08 in the beginning
00:23:10 God blew or gave breath so
00:23:15 to us
00:23:17 and that is a Hebrew idiom
00:23:19 for the spirit aka the law
00:23:23 now the way that Satan takes us out of
00:23:27 the Dust
00:23:29 is to give us his holy ways
00:23:33 his holy Behavior yeah that’s how he
00:23:37 makes us or takes us from the Dust
00:23:41 is to do that and when you go look at
00:23:43 the imagery with Nephi in building the
00:23:45 ship to cross the chaos
00:23:49 he gets a billow to breathe in more air
00:23:53 into the fire of purification
00:23:57 yeah
00:23:59 to melt the metal
00:24:03 the rod to shape it
00:24:06 yeah it’s a one and another which points
00:24:08 us back to that video again the
00:24:10 interesting picture of the uh metal
00:24:14 getting beaten into shape
00:24:16 as they go down the hill to be baptized
00:24:19 and that takes hot water
00:24:22 I mean hot fire sorry hot fire yeah yeah
00:24:27 um and so yeah that yeah yeah that’s and
00:24:31 the thing is the real another cool thing
00:24:33 is when the hammer when the uh Workman
00:24:37 blacksmith is working that metal you see
00:24:40 all of that draws fly off of each impact
00:24:44 you know what I mean it’s just like yeah
00:24:46 ah
00:24:48 it’s that is that is the purifying and
00:24:53 cleansing power of
00:24:56 following Messiah I’ve had Sparks
00:25:00 through this purification process yeah
00:25:03 so the imagery is perfect
00:25:06 yes and this imagery is to get to think
00:25:09 about what’s going on uh and
00:25:12 The Book of Mormon says a lot more than
00:25:15 I think most people recognize
00:25:18 um just like you find them out with a
00:25:20 billow making the fire hot for the
00:25:23 purification right the Refiner’s Fire
00:25:27 it’s beautiful actually I see it it’s
00:25:30 beautiful
00:25:31 um so anyways
00:25:33 um
00:25:35 in Isaiah somewhere I’m I’m no Isaiah
00:25:39 expert
00:25:40 um but it talks about
00:25:42 how in the latter days that people will
00:25:45 go to the mountain of the Lord to learn
00:25:47 his ways oh it’s Isaiah chapter two it’s
00:25:50 okay that’s right at the beginning
00:26:02 imagery there but my point is how do we
00:26:06 learn God’s ways
00:26:08 unless it’s his loss
00:26:12 I’m sorry what was that how do we learn
00:26:15 yahweh’s ways unless it’s through his
00:26:18 loss his instructions
00:26:22 I’m guessing that you don’t
00:26:26 yeah it was kind of a rhetorical
00:26:27 question so hopefully it’s a question
00:26:30 that shouldn’t need to be answered right
00:26:32 but some people may need to be answered
00:26:35 actually sadly well it seems like for a
00:26:37 lot of people it needs to be answered
00:26:39 right
00:26:41 um yeah and so going to the mountain is
00:26:44 going back to the law
00:26:48 so hopefully that
00:26:50 I mean just like just like if Justin
00:26:53 Griffin understood exactly the imagery
00:26:56 he was invoking he would realize that he
00:26:59 he would realize that quite
00:27:02 unintentionally he pointed people back
00:27:04 to the law
00:27:05 by because the Lord took the children of
00:27:09 Israel Into the Wilderness to bring them
00:27:11 to the mountain
00:27:12 so that they could receive the law but
00:27:15 before that even
00:27:18 Moses and the burning bush
00:27:21 he goes up into the mountain after you
00:27:24 know he goes up in the mountain with
00:27:27 that too
00:27:29 that’s where he receives wow
00:27:31 um so I did like Justin’s documentary
00:27:34 but at the end
00:27:36 he this is going to sound negative but
00:27:39 this is what I see I see him going up on
00:27:42 a little hit a high heel not a mountain
00:27:44 he didn’t have no mountain at the end of
00:27:47 that video no he did not he had a little
00:27:49 Hill it wasn’t even a high hill he had a
00:27:51 little Hill I don’t know exactly what if
00:27:54 he was trying to point to a mountain
00:27:55 versus just wandering in the desert and
00:27:58 that just happened to be there
00:28:00 um but if what was shown was
00:28:04 purposeful
00:28:07 yes that word
00:28:09 um that was a high heel
00:28:11 yeah
00:28:13 I I think is what he’s going but anyways
00:28:17 um I don’t think I don’t think he gets I
00:28:19 don’t think he got that though like I
00:28:21 don’t think he understands the imagery
00:28:22 on that I I think
00:28:25 um I I released uh his tour is still
00:28:29 valid on the same day as his movie on
00:28:31 purpose and by direction of Yahweh
00:28:35 the response I gave to him that he would
00:28:38 not
00:28:39 reply to multiple times
00:28:42 yeah the the main yes yeah I mean the
00:28:45 and both uh Matt and I uh shared it I
00:28:49 put some I put I think I put a uh I I
00:28:54 think I put an epistle in front of it
00:28:56 yeah
00:28:59 there’s a good one though it was a good
00:29:01 one
00:29:05 um
00:29:06 so I
00:29:09 what he’s doing with Joseph Smith
00:29:12 who killed Joseph Smith is a good work
00:29:14 right yeah I agree at the same time he
00:29:18 preaches lawlessness
00:29:20 yeah so he’ll pretend like he doesn’t
00:29:24 but when someone who knows what’s going
00:29:26 on like Ben or me will talk to him it
00:29:30 comes out
00:29:31 he believes in lawlessness
00:29:35 as I hope with putting that at the at
00:29:38 the same day
00:29:40 we’ll maybe get him to think about it
00:29:42 and really look to answer it rather than
00:29:45 asking the same question over and over
00:29:49 what about stoning because you know what
00:29:51 I have an answer to that
00:29:53 and I recorded it primarily for him
00:29:56 yep God God’s going to Stone the Earth
00:29:59 yeah good morning baby
00:30:03 the second coming proves stoning is
00:30:07 still in the law
00:30:11 um so
00:30:13 yeah because God will not break his law
00:30:16 no and if it was taken out a lot
00:30:19 wouldn’t be lawful for God to stones in
00:30:21 fact
00:30:23 hell is the center of the earth which is
00:30:26 stoning
00:30:30 stoning is still part of the lock
00:30:33 I I know man is that funny but hopefully
00:30:36 that’s like serious like aha funny right
00:30:38 yes it is
00:30:41 um stoning is forever
00:30:44 and by the way God has no problem with
00:30:48 killing the wicked okay
00:30:51 releases
00:30:58 yeah
00:30:59 um
00:31:00 so along this lines of stoning okay
00:31:05 I had a connection thought today
00:31:12 so the lowering there’s a theory out
00:31:15 there is pretty prevalent that the
00:31:16 second coming is going to start in the
00:31:18 fall I actually I do not believe that I
00:31:21 believe it’s going to start in the
00:31:22 spring okay
00:31:24 let’s go
00:31:25 the second coming
00:31:28 okay I believe the second coming is
00:31:30 going to start
00:31:32 with the first High holiday
00:31:36 and I have multiple reasons for that but
00:31:38 on this stoning let’s just stick to the
00:31:40 stoning okay one of the things that
00:31:45 The Roaring lions from 35 20ish which is
00:31:49 actually from
00:31:51 there right uh yeah
00:31:56 um that one
00:31:57 um from the Tanakh
00:32:00 they’re they’re going to go out
00:32:02 destroying people
00:32:03 and along with that they’ll be getting
00:32:07 the riches
00:32:09 of the Nations
00:32:11 when Exodus happened what happened they
00:32:13 got the riches of the nation well you
00:32:16 know another part of that
00:32:19 sorry I’m sorry go ahead create a little
00:32:22 connection too like you know the idea
00:32:24 there’s nothing new Under the Sun right
00:32:26 all things that have happened work that
00:32:29 will happen have happened already yeah
00:32:32 I’m what about the children of Israel
00:32:35 when they were given the promised land
00:32:37 they had to go in and wipe up the ground
00:32:38 with a whole bunch of different people
00:32:40 yeah and you guess what that happened
00:32:43 right after Passover
00:32:45 yeah right because they they stopped
00:32:49 eating Nana and now they had to eat the
00:32:51 wheat that they just harvested just like
00:32:53 unleavened bread yeah
00:32:56 um anyways but my point is interesting I
00:33:00 want so these wrong Lions they’re
00:33:02 actually going to be
00:33:06 I do believe they’re going to be uh
00:33:08 executing righteous judgment unto
00:33:11 capital punishment
00:33:13 I think part of that is going to be done
00:33:15 by stoning there’s a process to it but I
00:33:18 do believe some of this can be done by
00:33:19 stoning there’s a legal process to
00:33:22 actually start right it’s not something
00:33:24 oh I just want to do it let me do it no
00:33:26 there’s a process it’s not something you
00:33:28 just go up and do your own
00:33:30 um
00:33:31 but
00:33:33 um that lot when Sodom Gomorrah got
00:33:37 stoned that was during Passover
00:33:40 yeah uh how do you know
00:33:43 uh you can see the connections in the
00:33:46 account we can go look at it if you want
00:33:47 but
00:33:49 um one part remember that in my head is
00:33:52 they were eating unleavened bread
00:33:55 what does Abraham feed the angels
00:34:00 um and part of Passover is unleavened
00:34:02 bread so eat unleavened bread with
00:34:04 Passover and then you have unleavened
00:34:06 bread another seven days and this is
00:34:07 where
00:34:08 this gets into the calendar Wars holiday
00:34:10 Wars they they mix that up and they
00:34:14 trying to say that Passover is part of
00:34:16 unleavened bread and it’s it’s not
00:34:18 anyways just because you do it in one
00:34:20 day doesn’t mean it’s part of something
00:34:21 else that you do it also
00:34:23 anyways but Passover eat unleavened
00:34:26 bread
00:34:28 um so I see a lot of these connections
00:34:32 and they’re dealing with stoning another
00:34:35 thing that I thought of this last little
00:34:37 while go along with this subject a
00:34:39 little more and then we go back to you
00:34:40 Andrew sorry about that oh no no I’m
00:34:42 done
00:34:44 I I believe
00:34:47 that the parable of the ten virgins is
00:34:51 about the second coming
00:34:53 um
00:34:55 and during Exodus what happens at
00:34:56 midnight
00:34:59 those who were not covered by yahweh’s
00:35:02 Blood
00:35:04 on their house the destroy an angel
00:35:07 comes through and takes
00:35:09 you go look at the parable the ten
00:35:10 virgins what happens at midnight
00:35:14 [Music]
00:35:16 in the house which is death
00:35:19 right that’s
00:35:21 spiritual death
00:35:28 um but anyways there’s a lot more
00:35:30 connections that I think most of us even
00:35:33 know
00:35:35 [Music]
00:35:36 well that’s the magic I hate to use the
00:35:39 word magical but like that’s the that’s
00:35:42 the awesome thing about the pictures
00:35:43 right I would use the word mysterious
00:35:46 because that’s actually the book yes
00:35:48 magical magical is a cult yeah that’s
00:35:52 true
00:35:56 that’s the that’s the power let’s say
00:35:58 that that’s the power of the scriptures
00:36:00 like yeah there’s so many different
00:36:02 layers to it once you get one then all
00:36:04 of a sudden another one comes up when
00:36:05 you’re ready for it right
00:36:07 Yeah well yeah there’s multiple there’s
00:36:11 multiple levels there’s multiple levels
00:36:13 of interpretation in everything
00:36:15 I would say in almost every single verse
00:36:18 of scripture
00:36:20 yeah uh yeah I in some way or fashion
00:36:24 all of the scriptures point to Yeshua in
00:36:27 many cases I can bring that out not
00:36:29 every case yet but I’m working on it
00:36:32 uh but I will say the more we come to
00:36:35 know yahshua the more we’ll see him in
00:36:38 the scriptures just as he stated in the
00:36:40 New Testament
00:36:41 that they point to him he was not lying
00:36:45 he was telling the truth
00:36:47 I’ll tell you what I’m I’m in second
00:36:49 Kings right now in the Bible it is
00:36:52 fascinating stuff
00:36:56 this is like the first time I guess that
00:36:58 I’ve uh
00:36:59 been reading through the Old Testament
00:37:02 and it’s it’s full of so much good stuff
00:37:06 I’m loving it
00:37:07 is there anything I want to share or are
00:37:09 you just in general
00:37:11 well Hayden
00:37:14 I I’m just noticing a lot of the
00:37:16 patterns those who you know when they’re
00:37:18 following when they’re following Torah
00:37:21 right
00:37:22 they when they’re living Torah
00:37:25 they’re prospered
00:37:27 the Lord takes care of them when they’re
00:37:30 not when they’re going off an idolatry
00:37:32 and other things like that then they run
00:37:35 into really serious problems and the
00:37:38 cursing’s really come out big time
00:37:43 you see that in the Book of Judges
00:37:46 too well and you see it throughout the
00:37:49 the Bible it seems like the Old
00:37:51 Testament is just like
00:37:54 object lesson after object lesson after
00:37:56 object lesson of what happens
00:37:59 so you live your life and how that
00:38:00 affects and the beautiful thing is is
00:38:03 you kind of have this
00:38:06 Hiatus how they how do you how the man
00:38:10 who compiled the Bible
00:38:13 compiled that are the way we have the
00:38:15 KJV where Ruth is you have like this
00:38:19 object lesson object less object lesson
00:38:22 but then there’s a it’s like there’s a
00:38:25 break
00:38:28 Ruth Ruth which is an object lesson of
00:38:32 the law in its full efficacy people
00:38:35 obeying the law
00:38:37 yeah um
00:38:39 and uh obeying the law honoring the law
00:38:42 and coming to Yeshua
00:38:44 um
00:38:45 now the thing is the thing that I
00:38:48 noticed in Ruth
00:38:51 um Boaz
00:38:52 Boaz all the characters are both real
00:38:55 and representational yeah
00:38:58 yeah
00:38:59 Boaz is representational
00:39:04 of Yeshua
00:39:05 or of the Elvis
00:39:09 and Ruth is representational
00:39:13 of the Bride
00:39:17 so
00:39:19 um
00:39:20 and Naomi is the church that brought him
00:39:22 brought her to him
00:39:24 yep Naomi is the church and helped her
00:39:27 know how to do it yes right
00:39:33 Naomi if I remember the name right so I
00:39:36 haven’t read that is right you’re right
00:39:38 you’re right um but she guided Ruth on
00:39:41 how to go
00:39:43 propose basically to or maybe that’s not
00:39:46 the right word but to tell
00:39:51 Boaz that she wanted to be married to
00:39:54 him yeah and that’s what the church
00:39:56 should be hearing was
00:39:58 that’s what the church that’s what the
00:39:59 church is supposed to do well it still
00:40:02 is doing it yeah the problem is
00:40:05 most people are listening to the wrong
00:40:08 Church
00:40:09 yes
00:40:11 and then they get what told how to not
00:40:15 be the bride
00:40:18 then they get told how to be the [ __ ]
00:40:20 yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:40:24 sad but true
00:40:27 yeah I guess probably oh sorry no go
00:40:30 ahead
00:40:32 I’m gonna say I can probably somewhat
00:40:34 answer this on this question on my own
00:40:36 but I kind of just want to see what you
00:40:37 guys have to say but
00:40:39 um I have wondered why is it that Torah
00:40:42 is so
00:40:44 is so mysterious to us why is that so
00:40:46 hidden why is that not or
00:40:49 from scriptures more noticeable
00:40:52 because we don’t know it we grew up in
00:40:54 cultures that said it’s dead it’s it was
00:40:57 nailed at the cross and Paul’s term is
00:41:01 the thing is law of Moses was nailed to
00:41:03 the cross
00:41:05 not Torah
00:41:06 and but churches specifically Christian
00:41:10 churches will teach all the law was
00:41:14 nailed to the cross in some form or
00:41:16 matter and so we don’t know it so when
00:41:18 we read it we don’t know to recognize it
00:41:21 because the Hebrew thought mind
00:41:25 um they is a little different than the
00:41:27 Greek mind the Greek mind on this point
00:41:29 is to say well we’re quoting or
00:41:32 referencing such and such
00:41:34 okay Hebrews don’t do that
00:41:37 they just quote a verse and because they
00:41:41 study and care about it so much they
00:41:43 know that that person is referencing
00:41:45 this
00:41:46 and it’s teaching Torah so the more you
00:41:49 know Torah the more you’ll see it in New
00:41:52 Testament yeah
00:41:53 yeah you’re right a lot more
00:41:57 definitely
00:41:58 and you honestly see what you do not
00:42:02 know
00:42:03 yeah coming from an LDS background okay
00:42:08 how many
00:42:10 I’m not sure if that’s your background
00:42:11 or not uh
00:42:13 is it I believe okay coming from an LDS
00:42:17 background I know that like
00:42:20 um
00:42:23 we don’t really read the scriptures very
00:42:25 much
00:42:27 you know in church
00:42:28 the teachers proof texts a verse that
00:42:33 the manual told them to right yeah and
00:42:36 then on top of that what they what they
00:42:38 end up doing
00:42:40 they end up
00:42:42 um
00:42:47 gymnastics that have to be done to make
00:42:50 it spin that way yeah and then
00:42:53 everybody’s like okay we’re guessing
00:42:55 but the whole thing is that everybody’s
00:42:58 so used to doing the mental gymnastics
00:42:59 that it’s really not that hard for them
00:43:02 to do
00:43:05 what I actually don’t think it’s mental
00:43:08 gymnastics anymore
00:43:14 that’s why they started and that’s why
00:43:16 they start the teaching in this manner
00:43:18 in primary
00:43:19 because then by the time you’re an adult
00:43:23 you’re you you’re you’re you’re your
00:43:26 thought patterns are wired in a certain
00:43:28 way so that it is not mental gymnastics
00:43:30 to you
00:43:32 I I was different though even when I the
00:43:36 calling I had the most of the teacher so
00:43:39 I I took the manual for the subject and
00:43:42 then I taught it on my own
00:43:44 yeah so I was good and bad depending on
00:43:47 who you asked
00:43:49 but then I at the same time though I got
00:43:51 people to read and participate were
00:43:53 those who just did the manual straight
00:43:54 didn’t
00:43:56 and I actually had teacher classes that
00:43:59 to some
00:44:00 softly told me to stop doing that I told
00:44:03 him no I’m not going to and you know
00:44:05 what they didn’t get rid of my calling
00:44:06 so I guess they weren’t too worried
00:44:08 about it
00:44:11 [Music]
00:44:15 they weren’t so worried that they wanted
00:44:18 to go to the trouble of calling a new
00:44:21 teacher
00:44:26 because I got them to participate
00:44:28 where the other teachers couldn’t so I I
00:44:31 think they were in a conundrum right
00:44:34 I don’t know what to do
00:44:37 um but yeah
00:44:39 um
00:44:40 we don’t see it because we didn’t grow
00:44:42 up with it I see it more because I’ve
00:44:44 put concerted effort to study it and I
00:44:47 don’t think I know it or not to be
00:44:49 honest well that’s this is the thing is
00:44:51 if you once you know the law and you
00:44:53 start reading
00:44:55 you say start reading second Nephi two
00:44:58 you’ll see you’ll see where uh Lehigh
00:45:01 you’ll see where Lehi is quoting it
00:45:04 you’ll see where he’s uh
00:45:06 where you’ll see where he’s quoted the
00:45:07 prophets and the writings
00:45:10 yeah and I think uh if I remember
00:45:14 Lehigh said the prophet and I think he’s
00:45:17 referring to Moses when he says that if
00:45:19 I remember correctly anyways
00:45:22 um we’d have to go double check but
00:45:25 hey guys I’m gonna have to get going
00:45:27 here
00:45:28 all right well sorry it comes for a bit
00:45:31 that’s it’s longer than last time so
00:45:33 we’re we’re getting we’re getting better
00:45:36 we’re getting somewhere no I’m really
00:45:39 enjoying it though but uh again gotta
00:45:42 get kids to bed so for sure give us a
00:45:44 call tomorrow Andrew yeah
00:45:48 all right we’ll do all right you guys
00:45:51 take care
00:45:58 so did you have another question Kesley
00:46:00 or is it just that one
00:46:02 uh just that one I think
00:46:05 for now okay yeah
00:46:08 so I just want to say one thing before I
00:46:10 do my last little swig
00:46:13 burning in the bosom
00:46:16 there you go
00:46:21 that has a lot of meaning yeah that’s
00:46:23 not how my friends said
00:46:25 it actually has a lot of meanings to it
00:46:27 right yes absolutely absolutely right
00:46:31 um so I’ll just bring out one
00:46:34 Abraham’s bosom
00:46:37 it is an everlasting burning
00:46:40 yes yes there’s wine
00:46:43 it’s the joy and the
00:46:45 I mean that’s right
00:46:48 it’s representational representational
00:46:51 the
00:46:53 which we take and
00:46:56 in addition at the same time covenanting
00:46:59 to keep his Commandments AKA is Torah
00:47:03 yes that’s how we get in the burning
00:47:06 bosom but anyways there’s a lot of
00:47:09 symbolism in these things
00:47:11 um
00:47:12 so through the keeping of The
00:47:14 Commandments yeah that’s how you get
00:47:16 Sanctified right
00:47:17 yeah that’s how you get to that
00:47:19 I mean even if you claim to believe in
00:47:22 Joseph Smith
00:47:23 anybody who claims to believe in Joseph
00:47:24 Smith has to believe that the
00:47:26 Commandments sanctified
00:47:28 because it’s sad though but most of them
00:47:32 don’t
00:47:34 Doctrine and Covenants section 88. you
00:47:37 see the the other thing is is most
00:47:39 people can’t tell the difference between
00:47:40 justification and sanctification
00:47:43 I think that they think they’re the same
00:47:45 thing
00:47:46 you know on this point I’ll give him a
00:47:49 little credit
00:47:50 for maybe not credit but um benefit the
00:47:54 doubt I grew up in the elders church I
00:47:56 didn’t know the difference
00:47:57 yeah there is that there is that
00:48:00 um but at the same time
00:48:02 uh uh at some point you need to take it
00:48:05 on yourself right and I I learned it and
00:48:08 figured out because you always told me
00:48:12 all right so but yeah because I
00:48:14 diligently sought after him
00:48:17 well you know it’s kind of like after I
00:48:20 received the baptism of fire I was I was
00:48:24 praying and asking what now and it’s
00:48:27 just like well
00:48:30 read your read your scriptures they’ll
00:48:32 tell you what now
00:48:38 and this new group I’m in House of order
00:48:42 um a house out of order I’m in the house
00:48:44 out of order sorry
00:48:46 um I I put in there today my Torah is
00:48:49 still valid post and I put in there
00:48:51 actually I just blatantly stated
00:48:54 why I did that post
00:48:56 and bought in and tied it into the last
00:48:59 thing he said this is part of what you
00:49:01 need to do
00:49:03 because it’s true this is what next this
00:49:05 is what next yeah
00:49:08 it’s part of it because even if we we
00:49:11 kept the law and we haven’t come under
00:49:13 yahweh’s Authority we’re still yeah you
00:49:16 can’t have one without the other
00:49:19 [Music]
00:49:19 um
00:49:22 but anyways
00:49:24 um
00:49:25 and yahweh’s Authority kind of sad and
00:49:29 telling why he couldn’t answer if you
00:49:31 ask me but I’ll just deal with that
00:49:33 because I don’t want to spend a lot of
00:49:35 time on that on Earth well and that’s
00:49:37 the whole thing is that they’re
00:49:39 if you’re
00:49:41 it’s that whole thing that Paul talks
00:49:44 about Forever Learning and never coming
00:49:45 to a knowledge of the truth yeah that’s
00:49:47 what I see in these Facebook groups
00:49:49 they’re always arguing about the same
00:49:50 damn things
00:49:51 and I said foreign because those things
00:49:54 are damning them
00:49:55 right because they don’t they don’t have
00:49:58 the foundation of obedience and coming
00:50:01 under the coming under the authority of
00:50:03 Yahweh
00:50:09 those groups too because I feel like
00:50:11 when I got on that group I thought oh
00:50:13 there’s a lot of people here that know a
00:50:15 lot more about the scriptures than I do
00:50:16 and then
00:50:18 well to me when like the things that you
00:50:20 posted they just called to me and I
00:50:22 thought well why have I why was I so
00:50:24 open to this stuff and they’re not
00:50:28 because you’re a lamb
00:50:31 you’re a sheep
00:50:33 that’s why
00:50:35 this sheep will hear his voice
00:50:42 um and maybe they are and they just
00:50:43 haven’t woken up yet
00:50:45 yeah
00:50:46 I I think that I think that for many who
00:50:49 come from the lbs background
00:50:51 they
00:50:53 more often than not they wake up to the
00:50:56 corruption of the church first
00:50:59 and then
00:51:01 they get reactionary
00:51:06 and so the typical
00:51:08 um grieving process so that that’s the
00:51:10 normal
00:51:11 I don’t know if it’s appropriate or not
00:51:13 but it is normal
00:51:15 it is it’s normal here what you’re
00:51:17 seeing here is normal human behavior
00:51:19 work is what I’m trying to say but the
00:51:21 sad thing is many of them stay there
00:51:24 yeah many of them stay in that Lawless
00:51:27 state
00:51:29 um always betwixt in between
00:51:32 so for me I first spoke up to the
00:51:34 problems in the government then I woke
00:51:36 up to the church but
00:51:39 I woke up to church and Torah about the
00:51:41 same time not that I really understood
00:51:43 Torah then but I did at the same time I
00:51:46 saw the problem of the church I saw the
00:51:47 importance of Torah not that I
00:51:49 understood it but I saw I had the desire
00:51:52 to learn it and understand it and keep
00:51:55 it now I went down some strange paths
00:51:58 around those lines and
00:52:02 and uh yeah
00:52:06 will lead you to new age that’s for sure
00:52:09 uh yeah orthod I I didn’t really go
00:52:13 I I wouldn’t say I went down the
00:52:15 Kabbalah path but considering
00:52:19 partly who helped wake me up to Torah
00:52:21 was in Orthodox and Kabbalah I probably
00:52:24 got some of that unknowingly but I
00:52:27 definitely
00:52:28 knew I was to some degree I knew I was
00:52:31 looking at the Orthodox stuff but I
00:52:32 didn’t know anything better until Yahweh
00:52:35 woke me up a little by little on that
00:52:38 and then at some point it just came and
00:52:41 a flood but at first it was trickles
00:52:44 um
00:52:45 so
00:52:47 the thing that I noticed is that when I
00:52:50 when I received the baptism of fire it’s
00:52:52 like the floodgates opened and I was
00:52:54 able to understand and re what I read a
00:52:56 whole lot more
00:52:58 yeah me too
00:53:00 I didn’t see a fire above my head like
00:53:03 I’ve seen some people claim but I I
00:53:06 could I had what Ben had I could
00:53:09 understand and expound
00:53:11 oh
00:53:12 significantly more in an instant
00:53:17 so there was nothing I could have just
00:53:18 done myself
00:53:20 how quick the chain I I studied and
00:53:23 prepared before okay
00:53:25 right
00:53:28 but that first re-baptism I did
00:53:35 I could see and sense a difference
00:53:41 anyways
00:53:45 um
00:53:46 he’ll give it more abundantly
00:53:50 those who enter the Covenant Waters of
00:53:54 baptism
00:53:55 yeah
00:53:57 but I can probably and I can someone
00:54:00 that’s authorized if Yahweh to do it so
00:54:03 see that I think that’s how I feel I
00:54:05 feel like I have a challenge there
00:54:07 because I don’t know
00:54:09 uh many that are authorized
00:54:13 but oh I actually you I believe you know
00:54:16 too it’s just uh one’s in Texas and
00:54:18 one’s in Argentina so yeah
00:54:27 I know well I guess if it’s meant to be
00:54:30 or if if Yahweh wants me to he’ll help
00:54:34 me find someone in his time right yeah
00:54:37 well and the thing is is that
00:54:39 the main thing is is that if if the
00:54:43 opportunity arises if the opportunity
00:54:46 arises would you be baptized
00:54:49 in that in that moment
00:54:52 it should the opportunity arise and
00:54:54 that’s the question you have to ask
00:54:56 yourself and that’s what that’s um
00:54:59 and uh if you would then that’s a symbol
00:55:04 that that’s a symbol probably that
00:55:06 you’ve already made the Covenant with
00:55:07 Yahweh yes the important thing is the
00:55:10 Covenant part
00:55:12 um one of these
00:55:14 let’s see let me
00:55:18 oh yeah you might want to go watch
00:55:21 this one
00:55:22 I think you weren’t there but we kind of
00:55:24 went over this some but Ben’s right it
00:55:27 and I went off of the example of limpai
00:55:29 and teaching it from The Book of Mormon
00:55:31 that
00:55:33 uh the important part is the Covenant
00:55:35 and
00:55:36 but
00:55:38 uh they waited to be baptized into like
00:55:41 they had someone who had Authority
00:55:43 okay yeah
00:55:46 um so you could go watch that video
00:55:50 um I could do it again but it’d probably
00:55:53 be better to go over something else and
00:55:54 you can watch that the thing is the
00:55:57 thing is is once you make the Covenant
00:56:00 once you’ve actually made the Covenant
00:56:02 the word will come alive to you because
00:56:06 God wants you to understand the Covenant
00:56:08 that you’ve made well so I will say
00:56:12 though
00:56:14 the act of the baptism does something if
00:56:17 you’ve been accepted okay
00:56:21 um yeah yeah but the Covenant Governor
00:56:24 does something save you when it comes to
00:56:27 Judgment Day okay yeah but the baptism
00:56:31 makes you part of the the organize his
00:56:33 organized structure here on Earth not
00:56:36 heaven on on Earth and because of that
00:56:40 Covenant in the his church on Earth part
00:56:44 of it is to teach others and bring them
00:56:46 to his truth and so that’s partly why so
00:56:49 that’s why that’s why the mind is
00:56:51 enlightened right
00:56:53 um no I I on that point I think some get
00:56:57 that more than others just because
00:56:59 there’s you know there’s a hand in the
00:57:00 body there’s a foot in the body right we
00:57:03 all have different callings and and
00:57:04 talents and strengths so some may have
00:57:07 certain things more than others
00:57:10 but the hand can’t say to the foot it
00:57:12 doesn’t need it and the foot can’t say
00:57:14 to the hand I don’t need you we need to
00:57:16 change
00:57:17 but it’s easy to look at someone else’s
00:57:20 gifts and and covet
00:57:22 which
00:57:23 is against the law
00:57:27 right we
00:57:30 ought to be we should be content with
00:57:33 the gifts we are given I always see I
00:57:36 mean and at the same time I think it’s
00:57:38 important to strive it’s important to
00:57:41 it’s important to um seek greater gifts
00:57:45 because we’re commanded too
00:57:47 seek greater and greater yeah it’s a it
00:57:50 can be a tricky balance so a big thing
00:57:53 of coveting is wanting what the other
00:57:55 person has
00:57:57 mm-hmm seeing other people
00:58:01 can make you covet or it can give you
00:58:02 encouragement to go
00:58:05 do something yourself or get your own
00:58:07 strength yourself right as in we’re
00:58:09 different members of the body
00:58:12 um and so it can do both and a lot of
00:58:14 that depends on where your art is at
00:58:17 is it really a new creature or is it the
00:58:19 old creature with new excuses
00:58:21 if it’s a new creature you’ll be you’ll
00:58:23 glory for other people’s talents and
00:58:26 lift them up for it
00:58:28 while seeking your own at the same time
00:58:31 yeah
00:58:33 um in fact one of my favorite quotes
00:58:35 that I actually do believe is from
00:58:37 authentically from Joseph Smith is to
00:58:39 take other by the hand
00:58:41 and bring him to heaven
00:58:43 and taking them by the hand that says a
00:58:46 lot
00:58:48 do you do things
00:58:49 with the hand we are to help each other
00:58:54 all right anyways
00:58:56 and I see a lot of symbols in a lot of
00:58:58 these statements
00:59:00 um
00:59:03 so yeah
00:59:05 so
00:59:06 um
00:59:08 do you guys want to go to Ruth or I
00:59:10 actually have something that I got this
00:59:12 week that I think helps
00:59:15 my interpretation of uh a part of Daniel
00:59:18 9 I could show you guys or we could uh
00:59:21 go over something roof that you wanted
00:59:23 to do Mr Daniel Knight
00:59:26 okay so because I’m gonna have to go and
00:59:29 put boys to bed here shortly so okay
00:59:33 yeah let’s go into your thing
00:59:38 as you were looking at your brother with
00:59:39 an interesting face
00:59:49 okay let me I I’m gonna get my chiasm I
00:59:53 I might be biased but I kind of like it
00:59:57 um
00:59:59 never heard you say that before me being
01:00:02 biased
01:00:05 I’m open about my bias the question is
01:00:09 can you support your bias logically yeah
01:00:11 and the other question is is if your
01:00:15 bias is proven wrong
01:00:17 can you
01:00:20 abandon it yeah
01:00:26 oh no I’m just going to make this a
01:00:28 little smaller so all whole thing will
01:00:30 show up
01:00:32 hopefully
01:00:33 almost yeah okay no I think that’s all
01:00:36 because that’s the last day oh yeah yeah
01:00:37 yeah okay so
01:00:41 [Applause]
01:00:41 um
01:00:55 there we go okay this is right here
01:00:58 so
01:01:06 I believe the most important part of
01:01:09 Daniel 9.
01:01:11 is a it’s a prophecy
01:01:14 of Yeshua coming to be
01:01:16 the lamb to take away the sins of the
01:01:19 world
01:01:21 and that lamb
01:01:24 [Music]
01:01:26 represented
01:01:28 by the law of Moses hi yes
01:01:33 I track a little bit slain before the
01:01:36 foundation of the world
01:01:38 um
01:01:42 let me get it here it’ll be quicker
01:01:45 um
01:01:48 [Music]
01:01:51 so third Nephi
01:01:57 oh actually I don’t need to go there I
01:02:00 have in my notes that’ll actually be
01:02:02 better because I haven’t done cries in
01:02:03 there too all right so
01:02:06 yeah yeah
01:02:08 sometimes I don’t remember what I have
01:02:11 something all right
01:02:14 um
01:02:18 okay so 35 15.
01:02:21 [Music]
01:02:28 oh but this search other
01:02:31 I’m going to add
01:02:34 okay so 38 by 15. there’s a statement in
01:02:38 here as you just saw me update it a
01:02:40 little bit
01:02:43 um behold I am the law of Moses
01:02:47 thank you
01:02:50 when John said Behold the Lamb of God to
01:02:53 take away the sins of the world he
01:02:54 wasn’t talking about the Passover Lamb
01:02:56 though that does point to Yeshua he was
01:02:59 talking about the law of Moses daily
01:03:01 performance and ordinances sin offering
01:03:05 the daily sin offering
01:03:07 yeah daily and nightly sin offering
01:03:10 and
01:03:12 to me I I know I’m adding or
01:03:16 extrapolating or interpreting law to be
01:03:18 law of Moses in here but when you go
01:03:20 read the rest of this and the other
01:03:22 context is of other places where the
01:03:25 Book of Mormon talks about the law of
01:03:27 Moses and Daniel 9 and Paul and New
01:03:29 Testament
01:03:30 Yeshua is the law of Moses okay
01:03:36 um
01:03:36 every point of the law of Moses points
01:03:39 to his last hours
01:03:41 as a mortal man
01:03:44 is sacrifice for us every point
01:03:48 you know I know you heard me say this
01:03:49 before but I really seriously do want to
01:03:51 do a post on that one day sure
01:03:59 I would love to read that pose I would
01:04:02 love to finish it I’ve started it some
01:04:05 but I I’ve started so many I need to
01:04:08 finish
01:04:09 I have a problem with shiny objects and
01:04:12 not enough time in the day
01:04:15 um but anyway
01:04:16 yeah yeah I have a problem with that but
01:04:19 okay so
01:04:20 even that was a little size object right
01:04:24 um no I
01:04:27 oh here it is so
01:04:32 Daniel 9.
01:04:36 this is beautiful I’m very well thought
01:04:39 out and written
01:04:41 um I I mean we can start from the
01:04:43 beginning of the talk and then when we
01:04:44 get to my point about the Insight we can
01:04:46 talk about it because it yeah let’s just
01:04:48 do that and maybe not do too much but
01:04:51 so I’ll just start with verse 20 because
01:04:52 that’s where I have the chiasm right
01:04:54 and while I Daniel is speaking and
01:04:57 praying and confessing my sins so keep
01:05:00 in mind what he was doing confessing his
01:05:02 sins
01:05:03 what is
01:05:06 part
01:05:07 of being saved and being forgiven is to
01:05:10 confess your sins right
01:05:12 I’m bringing that out on purpose because
01:05:14 this brings out what this vision’s about
01:05:17 and the sins of My People Israel
01:05:20 so as you’ll see we read through this
01:05:23 Daniel was reconciled
01:05:27 the nation of Israel was not they had
01:05:30 consequences they got the curse they got
01:05:32 a curse right
01:05:34 um
01:05:35 and presenting my supplication before
01:05:38 Yahweh my Elohim look at that
01:05:42 modalism
01:05:43 Yahweh and Elohim same same entity
01:05:47 sorry brighamites
01:05:51 it’s in the Book of Mormon like this all
01:05:52 over and it is all over the Old
01:05:54 Testament it’s the same person anyways
01:05:58 for my Holy Mountain
01:06:02 uh speaking of what we were talking
01:06:04 about earlier
01:06:05 um so maybe Andrew can finish watching
01:06:07 this and look at the the next part of bb
01:06:11 the Commandment came forth where did the
01:06:13 Commandments come forth from Mount Zion
01:06:17 it’s even on BB anyways
01:06:20 um
01:06:21 for the Holy Mountain
01:06:23 of my Elohim
01:06:25 my judge and what does the judge judged
01:06:28 by the law
01:06:30 that’s why he’s a judge because he goes
01:06:31 according to the law right and that’s a
01:06:35 better translation of God
01:06:37 is it I mean we’re behind his Elohim but
01:06:40 I would say a better translation is
01:06:41 Judge
01:06:43 yay while I was speaking in prayer and
01:06:46 even
01:06:47 the man
01:06:49 Gabriel which
01:06:52 is Yahweh man of ill
01:06:54 that’s what Gabriel means man of L
01:06:58 um whom I had seen a vision at the
01:07:01 beginning so a previous bitter
01:07:04 translation is previously and in
01:07:05 previous vision cause the Flies
01:07:09 touched I think a better translation
01:07:12 just came and I’m giving support for
01:07:14 that for the Hebrew words right
01:07:16 me about the time of the evening and so
01:07:19 look at this
01:07:21 this is talking about the evening
01:07:23 obligation or offering of the law of
01:07:26 Moses so even the time he was praying I
01:07:29 believe he’s bringing that out to help
01:07:32 get in the mind of the Hebrew reader
01:07:34 what this is about
01:07:38 it’s about the law of Moses and what its
01:07:42 points to
01:07:44 okay
01:07:47 and he informed me and talked with me
01:07:49 and said
01:07:51 well Daniel
01:07:53 I am
01:07:54 now come forth to give these skill and
01:07:58 understand
01:08:01 that I am is a clear indication of who
01:08:04 Gabriel is
01:08:06 yes
01:08:08 um which is why I kind of gave an
01:08:10 emphasis to it but yes
01:08:12 but you can get it just the name
01:08:15 Gabriel you go look at it anyways and
01:08:18 the history that goes along with that
01:08:19 that he brings up but anyways this I am
01:08:22 supports it even more it has been staged
01:08:25 um so who gave him understanding and
01:08:27 skill Yahweh
01:08:30 who is The Great I Am
01:08:32 at the beginning of Vice applications
01:08:34 the command came forth and I am came to
01:08:39 show thee Daniel for thou art greatly
01:08:42 beloved so
01:08:45 yeah anyway I’ll give you that one and
01:08:48 therefore understanding
01:08:51 was there another was there another
01:08:53 squirrel poking up its head yeah yeah
01:08:54 there’s lots of so
01:08:59 the more I study the more I see
01:09:02 yeah and the more connections and how
01:09:04 all these connections
01:09:06 makes everything so simple if you would
01:09:09 just open your eyes to see in ears to
01:09:12 see
01:09:14 I was so blind
01:09:18 and death
01:09:21 yeah it really was
01:09:24 wow but now I can see I think we all
01:09:28 were maybe I have Choice
01:09:33 anyways therefore understand the matter
01:09:39 doesn’t matter reconciliation and
01:09:41 consequences which when you go look at
01:09:44 the Hebrew
01:09:46 theme therefore understand the theme of
01:09:49 this vision
01:09:50 oh
01:09:53 which is regulate uh regulation
01:09:58 reconciliation reconciliation and
01:10:00 consequence of sin
01:10:02 which is what you’ll see here
01:10:05 Daniel was forgiven
01:10:08 Israel
01:10:09 was destroyed
01:10:11 their city and their Temple
01:10:15 that’s historical fact 73. anyways
01:10:19 um
01:10:20 and consider the vision
01:10:22 of the 70s so that’s talking about the
01:10:25 70 wheat fish yeah because it’s this
01:10:27 Vision right here and I believe
01:10:32 the reason that this stuff up here is
01:10:35 here a big part of it
01:10:37 is to help us know the theme of what’s
01:10:39 below
01:10:43 I don’t believe it was accident I don’t
01:10:45 believe it’s random it’s just he’s just
01:10:46 writing things because it’s just how it
01:10:48 happened
01:10:50 there’s a purpose
01:10:52 to this madness
01:10:55 okay well when it’s Yahweh it’s not
01:10:58 Madness it’s yeah I I don’t use the best
01:11:01 word I was partly we do not understand
01:11:04 yes
01:11:06 I don’t understand we’ll think it’s
01:11:08 Madness yes right and yes and pointless
01:11:13 right because until you start until you
01:11:16 start seeing the purpose and the
01:11:18 connections you’ll think it’s all
01:11:20 Madness and pointless
01:11:22 because it means nothing to you
01:11:24 [Music]
01:11:25 right
01:11:27 no Oriole pet or Oriole the Oriole uh
01:11:31 use it to justify whatever uh or you’ll
01:11:33 interpret it in whatever way justifies
01:11:35 your current um yeah well uh Daniel 9
01:11:39 I think is a key verse for many things
01:11:41 actually one of it is dispelling a lot
01:11:45 of false prophecies that sadly
01:11:48 restorationists push and believe and
01:11:51 pretty much most of uh Christendom
01:11:55 um and on top of that Jews don’t like
01:11:58 this one also
01:12:01 um because it it’s they say they’re
01:12:04 waiting for messiah this shows that he’s
01:12:06 already come
01:12:07 and
01:12:11 yeah anyways okay so 70 weeks
01:12:16 which is the prophecy and vision right
01:12:18 you know you’ll see even in English
01:12:21 when we’re saying the same thing again
01:12:23 right after another
01:12:24 it’s bad form to say the exact same term
01:12:27 again right it sounds funny same thing
01:12:30 in Hebrew okay so just because he’s
01:12:32 using different words doesn’t mean it’s
01:12:33 something different it just means they
01:12:35 have the same
01:12:37 thing in their brain that makes them
01:12:38 they don’t want to hear the exact same
01:12:39 word one word after another that’s all
01:12:43 it is that’s why I’m just kind of Point
01:12:45 here it’s pointing and talking about the
01:12:47 same thing are determined
01:12:51 upon Daniel’s people the Israelites and
01:12:54 upon thy Holy City Jerusalem
01:12:58 to finish
01:13:01 and I think a better one is translation
01:13:04 of Finnish in this case is annihilate
01:13:07 that sin
01:13:09 of the first atom
01:13:13 Resurrection
01:13:15 [Music]
01:13:16 right
01:13:18 yep and to make an end
01:13:21 or obstruct the effects of sin those who
01:13:25 repent
01:13:26 [Music]
01:13:29 physical death spiritual death
01:13:33 and to make recollection what
01:13:37 I’m having our time saying that
01:13:39 reconciliation for sin
01:13:45 this is what this vision’s about or
01:13:48 primarily about right
01:13:53 to get rid of the effects of sin
01:13:56 now so
01:13:59 the thing that came to me that
01:14:02 um
01:14:03 goes along with this this week that I
01:14:06 think supports this because here I am
01:14:09 showing that I am translating it
01:14:10 different than the King James but I’m
01:14:12 giving support to it by looking at
01:14:16 the Hebrew behind the actual words okay
01:14:18 that’s what these links are
01:14:21 um
01:14:22 now let’s go look at
01:14:24 was it Luke 14 18 because I I did look
01:14:28 at it a little bit
01:14:30 disappeared
01:14:31 [Music]
01:14:36 um
01:14:42 if it’s not that one I can find it
01:14:45 all right
01:14:46 uh oops
01:14:55 Luke 14 18. ah
01:15:00 no
01:15:03 hold on let me find it
01:15:05 okay
01:15:13 I can find it oh Luke Luke 4 16.
01:15:20 oh that’s very different oh four not
01:15:24 fourteen huh
01:15:29 there you go
01:15:32 okay
01:15:34 and he Yeshua came to Nazareth where he
01:15:37 began
01:15:38 had been brought up
01:15:41 and as his custom was he went into the
01:15:43 synagogue on the Sabbath day and stood
01:15:46 up for read and he was delivered on him
01:15:49 the book of the prophet Isaiah so
01:15:52 here some people say
01:15:54 this was a partial reading right they’re
01:15:56 supposed to have their certain things
01:15:58 read I disagree with this and I think
01:16:00 even a close reading this will show this
01:16:02 so This States uh
01:16:06 uh and when he opened the book he found
01:16:09 a place where it was written so he
01:16:12 was given the book of Isaiah
01:16:15 he then went and found red in the book
01:16:18 what he wanted to read
01:16:20 he went and opened the book he found the
01:16:24 place where it was written
01:16:27 versus he went to it versus it was
01:16:30 already there for him to go to right
01:16:31 right
01:16:33 because I know people use this to to
01:16:36 justify Parsha readings which is their
01:16:38 you know their their annual tour right
01:16:40 readings for the week
01:16:42 yeah I don’t see that
01:16:45 yeah he went to where he wanted to I
01:16:47 think with the close readings so but
01:16:51 here here’s here’s the main point here
01:16:52 so that was just
01:16:54 uh uh being able to eat your cake okay
01:16:56 but the spirit of Yahweh was upon me
01:16:59 because he hath anointed me to preach
01:17:03 the gospel to the poor
01:17:05 so is anointing right that is baptism
01:17:09 to the poor of heart
01:17:12 because who hurt him those who had had a
01:17:14 poor heart
01:17:17 poor spirit
01:17:19 he sent
01:17:21 he has sent me to heal the brokenhearted
01:17:26 to preach Deliverance to the captives
01:17:32 recovering the sight of the blind
01:17:36 and set Liberty them that are bruised
01:17:40 say them Liberty Liberty from what sin
01:17:45 what is that
01:17:47 what is
01:17:49 this is what I showed from Daniel 9. yep
01:17:54 um
01:17:59 made
01:18:00 or
01:18:02 make an end or obstruct the effects of
01:18:05 sin he he set them free from sin
01:18:10 because he worked out the atonement
01:18:12 right
01:18:13 yeah
01:18:15 and so I believe
01:18:18 and I think I think it’s pretty easily
01:18:21 supported
01:18:23 that that verse supports my
01:18:25 interpretation and better translation
01:18:27 and
01:18:29 uh little glyphs to help people better
01:18:32 understand
01:18:34 of that verse
01:18:39 um but I will I’m biased but I think I
01:18:42 can find that bias in the scriptures
01:18:45 yeah yeah
01:18:48 I mean it’s what matters is
01:18:52 uh you know it’s uh we use the
01:18:54 scriptures to prove
01:18:56 what we believe to be correct and if we
01:18:58 don’t use the scriptures to prove what
01:19:00 we believe to be correct then we’re
01:19:01 really just
01:19:03 stumbling around an error
01:19:06 um well not a lot of people who use the
01:19:08 scriptures to prove what they think are
01:19:10 right are actually just stumbling around
01:19:11 in error well well you have the thing is
01:19:15 is you have to
01:19:17 any interpretation of scripture that
01:19:19 pits God’s word against itself
01:19:22 is foolishness right so
01:19:26 um but to go along with this
01:19:28 you go look at the chiasm is here a
01:19:30 we’ll just do a to finish to annihilate
01:19:33 the transgression of the first ever
01:19:35 let’s go look at the other a
01:19:39 to anoint fill with the spirit the most
01:19:42 holy
01:19:43 so when you get rid of the first sin
01:19:46 they can now be anointed because you
01:19:49 can’t have an anointing and sinning
01:19:51 together right so is that saying that
01:19:53 the baptism fire never happened before
01:19:55 the uh I I don’t think that that is
01:19:58 that’s not what that’s saying but
01:20:00 because when he did write that made it
01:20:02 possible yeah okay yeah and this was
01:20:04 done from before the foundation of the
01:20:06 world so yeah well we knew it was going
01:20:09 to and because we
01:20:10 everybody knew it was going to we can
01:20:13 have the effects before it happened
01:20:14 because it was as if it had already
01:20:16 happened right yeah God’s word is the
01:20:20 only word that that is if that that
01:20:22 really takes an effect with it’s right
01:20:24 because he’s the only one that knows the
01:20:26 past present and future
01:20:28 that’s right well even when the prophets
01:20:31 know it it’s only when Yahweh gives it
01:20:34 to them
01:20:36 it’s not because they figured it out
01:20:37 it’s because Yahweh gave it to him
01:20:40 because yeah
01:20:41 Isaiah I forget where he says
01:20:44 basically giving a challenge do you
01:20:46 think you can prophesy prophesy
01:20:48 let’s do it do it
01:20:52 and they can’t
01:20:55 um though I will say there’s
01:20:58 self-fulfilling prophecy out in the
01:21:00 world today
01:21:01 and a lot of people fall for those and
01:21:04 part of Daniel 9 of this interpretation
01:21:07 I’m bringing out destroys the
01:21:11 um
01:21:12 self-fulfilling prophecy false
01:21:15 understanding of this prophecy that
01:21:17 people put forth because those
01:21:20 are in charge are pushing something
01:21:23 that’s not the people to technically
01:21:26 technically those who are in charge are
01:21:29 aware of the false understanding of
01:21:32 Daniel 9 because they put it there they
01:21:34 put it out there
01:21:36 and
01:21:37 um so now that and they put it out there
01:21:40 to make it look like they’re false
01:21:42 Messiah instead of going that is coming
01:21:44 it’s the realness I am yeah but that’s
01:21:46 also in Prophecy too but anyways
01:21:48 um going back to this so let’s go look
01:21:51 at bees to to
01:21:53 make and obstruct
01:21:57 the effects of sin okay let’s go look at
01:21:59 the other being to seal up
01:22:02 so when you go to make sure
01:22:04 make your calling election made sure
01:22:07 that’s only possible because these
01:22:09 effects of sin are erased because of
01:22:11 yeshua’s atonement
01:22:13 um also
01:22:14 what’s needed to seal up in in the
01:22:18 assessment blood Joshua cave is blood
01:22:22 yep question
01:22:25 um so and to seal up make sure with
01:22:29 blood confirm Prevail the vision which
01:22:33 is prophecy Covenant
01:22:35 foreign
01:22:39 week’s Vision so that’s when Yeshua died
01:22:43 okay two C’s to make wreck
01:22:47 reconciliation for sin to bring
01:22:50 Everlasting righteousness we are saved
01:22:52 by yeshua’s marriage
01:22:54 and he does and that is the focal the
01:22:58 center focal point of that whole chiasm
01:23:01 the which means that all of this around
01:23:05 it is to
01:23:07 bring us to this
01:23:09 a Reconciliation of sins and everlasting
01:23:12 righteousness
01:23:16 yeah we can go through the rest of this
01:23:19 if you want but the the thing that I got
01:23:21 was had to do well especially this part
01:23:24 yeah no that I mean that’s that’s pretty
01:23:26 cool
01:23:27 um
01:23:28 so it’s not something that I just only
01:23:30 see there now I can find it in other
01:23:32 places
01:23:33 um but it completely makes sense to me
01:23:36 even without that but it’s nice to get
01:23:38 it confirmed somewhere else right yeah I
01:23:41 I mean I yeah
01:23:44 once you understand the yeah once you
01:23:48 understand the hebraic literary
01:23:49 structures and what they’re how what
01:23:52 they’re supposed to do it’s really
01:23:53 pretty cool to watch so many of these
01:23:58 prophecies just become clear through use
01:24:02 of chiasm
01:24:04 yeah uh I love kaizens if you’ve noticed
01:24:07 I I put my fingers where my mouth is
01:24:12 because I I spend the time to bring them
01:24:15 out yeah you see with but one thing
01:24:18 mainly
01:24:20 the reason why what I posted that there
01:24:22 is not exactly the comment that I I did
01:24:24 back to the one guy is because I took
01:24:27 some of the verses and Kai’s gym
01:24:30 the only difference I did
01:24:32 some of them into kaizens
01:24:35 um
01:24:36 and I I made I made the scriptures under
01:24:38 the quote sections and little stuff like
01:24:40 that but the main thing I did was made
01:24:42 the scriptures in product chaisms in the
01:24:44 scriptures that I quoted that I didn’t
01:24:46 make into kaizens before
01:24:48 I’ve I have a Wonder
01:24:51 if the testimony of John the Baptist at
01:24:54 the beginning of the Gospel of John
01:24:56 izakayasm
01:24:59 well we can go look right now if you
01:25:01 want unless Kesley has something else
01:25:02 she wants to do no that’d be good let’s
01:25:05 call it all right
01:25:08 oh
01:25:10 actually I’m to do this one I’m gonna sh
01:25:12 oh
01:25:16 my first open Kindle
01:25:20 because to me it’s like the clearest
01:25:22 indication
01:25:25 that just uh this is actually the
01:25:29 clearest indication and testimony that
01:25:31 just as Jesus or just as Yeshua
01:25:36 Yahweh is eternal so is his law is
01:25:40 eternal as well because it it’s
01:25:42 identified within his word is identified
01:25:45 with him
01:25:47 and so it would be really interesting to
01:25:49 see if that is also a chiasm
01:25:52 sure
01:25:54 um
01:25:55 so
01:25:56 first let’s just start here to see if
01:25:59 there’s some reading repeating patterns
01:26:01 to start
01:26:03 um generally speaking the center is the
01:26:05 easiest to find the repeating right
01:26:07 because they’re right next to each other
01:26:08 where the other ones are further apart
01:26:09 but let’s let’s start here and I prefer
01:26:12 to do in the jst right but anyways yeah
01:26:15 in the beginning
01:26:17 okay
01:26:19 in the beginning was the Gospel preached
01:26:21 through the sun and the gospel was the
01:26:24 word and the Word was with the sun and
01:26:26 the son was with God and the son was of
01:26:29 God
01:26:30 the same was in the beginning with God
01:26:32 all things were made by him and without
01:26:35 him was not anything made
01:26:37 which was made in him was the Gospel or
01:26:41 life he used the gospel to replace life
01:26:45 in the gospel was the life and the life
01:26:48 was the light of men I mean there’s so
01:26:50 much repetition of phraseology in here
01:26:55 but it’s all within the same phrase and
01:26:58 so that’s the thing the light shineth in
01:27:01 the world and the world caught and
01:27:03 perceiveth it not
01:27:06 then yeah the world replacing Darkness
01:27:10 that’s pretty cool
01:27:12 then was the man sent from God whose
01:27:16 name was John that’s the same came into
01:27:18 the world for a witness to Bear witness
01:27:21 of the light to Bear record of the
01:27:23 Gospel through the son not to all that
01:27:26 through him men might believe he was not
01:27:29 that light
01:27:31 but came to bear witness of that light
01:27:33 which was the True Light which lighteth
01:27:36 every man who cometh into the world even
01:27:39 the son of God he who was in the world
01:27:41 and the world was made by him and the
01:27:43 world knew him not he came onto his own
01:27:46 and his own perceived him not and
01:27:48 received him not not perceived receiving
01:27:50 them but as many as received him to them
01:27:54 he gave power to become the sons of God
01:27:57 only to them who believe on his name
01:28:02 he was born not of blood nor of the will
01:28:05 of the flesh nor of the will of man but
01:28:07 of God
01:28:08 the same word was made flesh and dwelt
01:28:12 among us and we beheld his glory the
01:28:15 Glorious of the only begotten of the
01:28:16 father full of grace
01:28:20 John bear witness of him and cried
01:28:23 saying this is he of whom I spake
01:28:26 he who cometh after me is preferred
01:28:28 before me for he was before me
01:28:31 for in the beginning was the word even
01:28:33 the son who is made flesh and sent out
01:28:36 to us by the will of the father and as
01:28:38 many as believe on his name shall
01:28:40 receive of his fullness and of his
01:28:42 fullness have all we received even
01:28:45 immortality and eternal life through his
01:28:48 grace
01:28:49 the law was given through Moses
01:28:52 but life and Truth come through Jesus
01:28:55 Christ
01:28:57 the law was after a carnal commandment
01:28:59 to the administration of death but the
01:29:01 gospel was after the power yeah it was
01:29:04 after so this clearly rephrase this is
01:29:07 clearly State at least those who have
01:29:10 eyes this ties right back into Daniel
01:29:12 this is the law of Moses
01:29:17 this testimony that he’s talking about
01:29:19 here is tying right back into Daniel 9.
01:29:22 yeah
01:29:23 yeah
01:29:24 I even see that now that you mentioned
01:29:26 it but first I was just seeing that the
01:29:30 law the law given through Moses was the
01:29:32 law after carnal commandment which uh
01:29:35 The Exodus jst shows us that that’s the
01:29:38 law of Moses and what was it DNC 88 or
01:29:42 84. we talked about it before but
01:29:44 anyways that that’s the law given
01:29:47 through Moses is the carnal commandment
01:29:49 aka the law of Moses AKA The Daily
01:29:51 performances and ordinances right
01:29:55 it’s a to me it’s so clear right there
01:29:57 with that jst
01:29:59 yeah and no man I’ve seen God at any
01:30:02 time except he hath born a record of the
01:30:04 son
01:30:07 yeah
01:30:10 for accepted is through him no man can
01:30:12 be saved
01:30:16 that’s interesting
01:30:18 so I don’t think it’s chiastic
01:30:20 but it’s definitely let’s see I I would
01:30:23 and this is the record of John was the
01:30:25 Jews
01:30:26 foreign
01:30:32 if if there is one I would wonder if
01:30:34 it’s from here
01:30:37 to here uh
01:30:40 okay so if
01:30:45 that’s cool Take Ah
01:30:48 I don’t like the Kindle app can you tell
01:30:55 everything has their pros and cons
01:30:58 so
01:31:01 um
01:31:02 let’s go to Kindle I mean uh
01:31:05 there
01:31:07 let’s see what we can get right
01:31:11 uh where to put this I know jst
01:31:16 let’s just
01:31:25 okay so first of all
01:31:28 I gotta clean this up so you got to give
01:31:31 me a minute
01:31:32 yep yep but actually here I’ll just
01:31:34 share my whole oops
01:31:38 resume
01:31:43 you can maybe
01:31:45 I’m gonna sh I’m sure there’s a way to
01:31:47 share the whole screen
01:31:51 there it is
01:31:54 because you can help me
01:31:57 um make sure I clean it up correctly
01:32:00 we’ll come uh
01:32:04 foreign
01:32:08 was with
01:32:11 yep
01:32:13 and the word so yeah all right okay two
01:32:20 three
01:32:27 that yeah
01:32:31 [Music]
01:32:33 life needs to be gotten rid of both
01:32:37 times for that verse
01:32:39 no
01:32:43 all right okay
01:32:45 [Music]
01:32:46 okay that’s it for four
01:32:49 F5
01:32:58 [Music]
01:32:59 what okay white china thin Darkness
01:33:02 needs to be eliminated
01:33:04 and comprehended needs to be eliminated
01:33:07 oops
01:33:09 yeah I have three types of keyboards
01:33:11 installed as you just saw
01:33:14 [Music]
01:33:15 um anyways sorry
01:33:19 uh get rid of Thumper hands
01:33:22 yeah
01:33:24 okay so that’s it for five now we go
01:33:27 down to six
01:33:29 there needs to go away
01:33:32 okay now seven
01:33:34 now seven yeah
01:33:38 let’s see all men
01:33:43 this one yeah
01:33:49 okay now I’ll go to eight
01:33:53 [Music]
01:33:55 okay was sent
01:34:02 and nine
01:34:08 like that to that
01:34:13 and that and then that before who
01:34:17 that’s it yeah
01:34:19 [Music]
01:34:21 go to verse 10. and there’s nothing
01:34:24 removed nothing to remove there verse 11
01:34:27 likewise uh that’s good I like those
01:34:30 ones
01:34:31 in verse 12 a little bit of work to do
01:34:36 okay
01:34:38 even needs to go even before only
01:34:43 yeah
01:34:45 and that
01:34:50 ah here we go 13 13.
01:34:55 which were needs to go one thing I like
01:34:58 in doing this because and some people
01:34:59 may find this a waste of time
01:35:01 I find
01:35:03 it helps me understand the passage more
01:35:05 because I’m looking for the connections
01:35:08 yeah
01:35:09 and the imagery how they’re using it in
01:35:11 multiple places so I would argue this is
01:35:14 an exercise that everyone should do
01:35:18 because you’re to do this you have to
01:35:21 understand it and if you want to
01:35:23 understand it you have to put in the
01:35:24 time
01:35:25 anyways
01:35:26 so shout out for doing this
01:35:31 it’s not just a waste of time okay so 14
01:35:34 there there’s absolutely nothing to take
01:35:36 out there there’s one in 15
01:35:39 115. bear instead of the bear before
01:35:43 bear
01:35:45 oh and they just changed the spelling
01:35:50 um
01:35:53 that too
01:35:56 oh yes before who
01:36:04 uh I think that’s actually Nexus 16. yep
01:36:07 right now we go into 16.
01:36:10 and Grace four
01:36:15 I wish I could
01:36:16 [Music]
01:36:22 yeah right right there you’re right over
01:36:25 it
01:36:27 foreign
01:36:29 [Music]
01:36:35 get rid of by
01:36:39 and Grace
01:36:43 and
01:36:44 buy the buy before
01:36:51 through yeah
01:36:53 [Music]
01:36:55 18. uh that one it’s good
01:37:00 because
01:37:06 okay
01:37:08 only begotten
01:37:15 needs to go away which was in the bosom
01:37:19 of the father he hath declared him
01:37:28 all goes away
01:37:30 okay
01:37:34 that’s that’s so much more
01:37:36 understandable okay well here comes
01:37:40 a good part oops
01:37:43 and we try to find the patterns in
01:37:46 speech yeah
01:37:57 let me uh get a little drink
01:38:00 [Music]
01:38:00 um
01:38:02 after all this is dry work
01:38:06 well I was thinking I was getting
01:38:07 revelation
01:38:08 oh well that too
01:38:10 okay so you know what God has seen any
01:38:14 time
01:38:15 see so
01:38:18 this is wrong we’re not final we’re
01:38:21 starting yep
01:38:24 possibly right yep sun and sun
01:38:30 yeah and this is going off of how the
01:38:32 Sun preached and the gospels the word
01:38:34 and the Word was the sun and the sun was
01:38:35 God and the son was of God if they would
01:38:38 have seen the god they would have known
01:38:39 that and that’s actually supported as
01:38:42 another a by this and no man had seen
01:38:44 God at any time except he had born
01:38:45 record of the sun yeah
01:38:48 I I think those things
01:38:52 go through this it is but part of it is
01:38:55 just the wording in 20 the verse after
01:38:57 makes it I was kind of done with the
01:38:59 statement also right but I also see here
01:39:02 in support of that here’s two A’s two
01:39:06 points that go along with each other
01:39:07 okay now I’m doing this live so these
01:39:11 are my you know I’ll make mistakes or
01:39:13 we’ll make mistakes as we’re doing this
01:39:14 yeah and the same was in the beginning
01:39:22 now this might actually be a subsection
01:39:25 yeah so
01:39:28 so it’s this
01:39:31 now sometimes uh chiasms contrast
01:39:35 okay so this is where now we have to I’m
01:39:39 I’m not sure so we’re going to dig into
01:39:41 some other ones because
01:39:44 um
01:39:45 if this does go here this would be in a
01:39:48 contrast okay
01:39:50 um but let’s let’s go look at this next
01:39:52 one because I I’m not so confident on
01:39:54 that one
01:39:55 made
01:39:57 all things were made by that you know
01:40:00 what
01:40:02 him and without him
01:40:05 I I think this is a nice thing right
01:40:09 it’s just like the Majestic plural I’m
01:40:13 doing the Majestic pronouns
01:40:16 or lack of a better term right anyways
01:40:20 no so you’re so you’re uh doing that’s
01:40:24 telling him right there that’s gone
01:40:25 that’s gone away yeah you’re doing your
01:40:27 pronouns yeah I’m doing my job I’m gonna
01:40:30 make a phrase Majestic pronouns yeah
01:40:34 I’ve been doing it I just coined the
01:40:36 noise anyways sorry
01:40:38 I’m being a torch in him was the Gospel
01:40:42 and the gospel was like
01:40:46 those two might go together
01:40:49 ah you know what I
01:40:51 just write off a this is a possibility
01:40:56 all right those are building upon each
01:40:58 other
01:40:58 yes possibility
01:41:01 yeah I can see that
01:41:08 what about what about uh
01:41:13 what about 16 17 18 kind of in
01:41:17 juxtaposition okay let’s go look at a
01:41:20 possibility to our two through five yeah
01:41:23 let’s see
01:41:26 and said unto us by the will of the
01:41:28 father as many as well believe in its
01:41:30 name and of his fullness happen we all
01:41:32 receive him for the law was given unto
01:41:34 Moses but life and Truth came through
01:41:36 Jesus Christ for the law was after
01:41:38 carnal commandment to the administration
01:41:39 of death but the gospel was after the
01:41:41 power of an endless life at least 17 and
01:41:43 18 are both combined so both
01:41:46 um I I see it as a good possibility so
01:41:49 16 the beginning was the word even the
01:41:51 Sun
01:41:52 all things were made that actually ties
01:41:55 right back 17 and B in him the gospel in
01:41:59 the gospel was the life and life as life
01:42:01 of light of men for the law given
01:42:03 through Moses but life
01:42:05 and Truth okay
01:42:09 four and Seventeen go together
01:42:11 and I see five and eighteen going
01:42:13 together
01:42:14 the life science in the world and the
01:42:16 word place that not now
01:42:19 why was the law of Moses given because
01:42:22 they did not see the light right
01:42:25 was to help them to see it so I think
01:42:29 your initial thought is correct
01:42:33 right yeah no I oops I think there’s
01:42:36 some subs in there that we can make it
01:42:38 you know do subcoasms in there but I
01:42:40 think your initial thought that a b and
01:42:43 C’s goal is correct because I see a a b
01:42:46 b and CC
01:42:49 so that would make me
01:42:52 inclined oops to put that up here right
01:42:56 yeah yeah and we’ll have to dig into
01:42:58 that one a little more but because
01:43:01 there’s probably chiasm here that would
01:43:02 make this make a little more sense and
01:43:03 same with this one right here but
01:43:06 right now
01:43:09 I’m inclined enough to do this
01:43:12 all right
01:43:13 yeah
01:43:15 and both of these we probably need to do
01:43:17 a little more on but I think they’re
01:43:19 good enough to as a good base that we
01:43:21 should go look at the rest and then come
01:43:23 back to those yeah
01:43:25 but I think that was a good spot
01:43:30 okay
01:43:37 then was a man sent from God whose name
01:43:39 was John
01:43:40 John and John
01:43:42 yep
01:43:46 uh there might be more of that but and
01:43:49 white is
01:43:50 Yahweh send prophets to Bear witness of
01:43:53 him yep all right so those that
01:43:56 definitely goes together
01:43:59 okay
01:44:03 it came in the world for a witness to
01:44:05 Bear witness of the light to Bear record
01:44:07 of the Gospel through this now the same
01:44:09 word was made flesh and both Among Us
01:44:15 7 and 14 go together
01:44:17 yeah all right
01:44:28 where’d my carrot go or I there it is
01:44:36 we’ll dig more into that because that
01:44:39 could be broken down more but those go
01:44:41 together
01:44:42 he was not that light but came to bear
01:44:45 witness of that light
01:44:47 he was not he was born not of blood nor
01:44:50 of the will of the flesh nor the will
01:44:52 the method of God
01:44:53 which was a True Light which come on
01:44:59 oh wow 9 and 12 go together too
01:45:05 on
01:45:07 oh let’s see real quick oh look at that
01:45:09 and I’ll go back to what I was looking
01:45:10 at which was the trailer which light
01:45:11 every man who cometh into the world
01:45:15 yeah those definitely so that’s probably
01:45:18 those are probably F yep uh I I still
01:45:22 want to look at these other ones first
01:45:24 but I I think you’re right and these two
01:45:27 probably go together let’s go check that
01:45:28 evenness
01:45:29 he who was in the world and the world
01:45:33 was made by him and they knew him not
01:45:35 and he came unto his own yeah yeah
01:45:38 because that’s both talking about what
01:45:39 he not receiving
01:45:44 bam yeah okay he was I want to look at 8
01:45:49 and 13 though
01:45:50 yeah
01:45:52 so that’s Ace talking about John
01:45:55 Witnesses
01:45:57 bearing witness of the light uh-huh who
01:46:01 was born not of blood nor the will of
01:46:03 the flesh nor the will so John’s
01:46:05 witnessing of what’s being stated in 13
01:46:08 so yes
01:46:09 yeah
01:46:12 two
01:46:19 okay
01:46:30 that’s pretty cool
01:46:33 breaking up and it’s funny coming
01:46:36 together pretty cool well we got our our
01:46:38 base done right yeah
01:46:41 you know
01:46:44 now in the past I would just leave it at
01:46:45 that but now
01:46:47 I even go further
01:46:49 [Music]
01:46:52 um
01:46:55 so which one you want to do further I
01:46:57 I’m inclined to do this one first yeah
01:47:00 okay in the beginning the costumes
01:47:02 preach through the sun and the gospel
01:47:03 was and now this is I’m going to do my
01:47:05 Majestic pronoun
01:47:10 the gospel was the word uh this what is
01:47:14 the word what is the word the word
01:47:18 the gospel was the word the word was
01:47:21 with the son
01:47:25 when that word that combination of words
01:47:27 the word that’s Torah
01:47:31 hold on I see a a
01:47:51 foreign
01:47:53 [Music]
01:48:00 if you can point to a literal
01:48:03 translation of the word of the word
01:48:05 being Torah that’ll be freaking awesome
01:48:10 or a link that shows the literal
01:48:11 translation of Torah is the word
01:48:14 so
01:48:16 um
01:48:17 what do you think of that
01:48:19 I like it
01:48:21 um
01:48:23 beginning right
01:48:26 gospel was the word
01:48:29 and
01:48:32 yeah this one’s may not be as strong so
01:48:35 maybe
01:48:42 but this is a but this is actually
01:48:44 another strong indicator of um this is
01:48:47 actually another strong indicator that
01:48:50 the sun is simply another role of the
01:48:53 Father the Son was of God
01:48:57 foreign
01:49:01 I’m looking at Doctrine here
01:49:04 that’s primarily what I’m looking at oh
01:49:07 yeah yeah I
01:49:15 [Music]
01:49:16 so one thought I wonder
01:49:19 that maybe this is an A B here
01:49:22 and this is another a b
01:49:24 oh yeah
01:49:26 this whole thing here
01:49:28 yeah with God and of God yeah so like
01:49:30 yeah I think I I can see that I’m
01:49:33 wondering more
01:49:35 I mean some of this might be quivering
01:49:37 over
01:49:38 little things yeah right now I’m more
01:49:42 kind to go like that
01:49:44 okay yeah because these two
01:49:47 more look like they go together
01:49:50 yep and these two look like they more go
01:49:52 together
01:49:53 because an A B couplet are kind of
01:49:56 supporting of each other right and ABC
01:49:58 is
01:50:00 um
01:50:01 and I didn’t see those really too much I
01:50:04 mean you could probably go with the
01:50:05 cardism and some people might there but
01:50:07 I’m more prone to go to abs
01:50:10 yeah yeah I see that
01:50:12 that’s what I see going I I mean I can
01:50:15 see that going on there
01:50:19 when you say that when you say they go
01:50:22 together is it
01:50:23 is it like answering each other or
01:50:26 they’re just meaning the same thing well
01:50:29 I think they kind of go together because
01:50:30 like this one and the sun was with
01:50:33 Elohim and the sun was of Elohim and in
01:50:38 the same way and the gospel was the word
01:50:40 and the Word was with the sun and so I
01:50:44 especially how they’re both kind of
01:50:46 saying the same kind of playing the same
01:50:49 way they’re putting they’re they’re
01:50:50 playing the same relationship kind of
01:50:52 thing right
01:50:54 one thing that’s a little interesting
01:50:56 though the two middle ones are both with
01:50:58 and the two outer ones
01:51:01 is uh though well this one doesn’t have
01:51:05 a
01:51:06 oh
01:51:07 um I almost said of myself so don’t
01:51:09 worry about it I just caught myself
01:51:11 before you did
01:51:13 but the two Center ones are with with so
01:51:16 it you could I could see how someone
01:51:18 might go with the c in the middle but
01:51:21 but I but what I see is the what I see
01:51:24 here is these two are relationally the a
01:51:27 the a b a a b b herrings are the same
01:51:33 relational pairings yeah these are
01:51:36 talking about the same basic thing
01:51:38 together and wording it a little
01:51:40 different and so yeah
01:51:42 and the gospel was the word and the Word
01:51:45 was with the sun same as the sun was
01:51:47 with God and the sun was of God right
01:51:50 see yeah yeah I I completely agreement
01:51:53 with you there Ben and I think that’s a
01:51:56 good case for why it should be a b a b
01:52:00 um instead of ABC CBA so because because
01:52:03 the relational pairings are the same yes
01:52:08 I agree but they’re both bees because
01:52:12 they they’re still kind of going along
01:52:14 with each other right but it is an a b a
01:52:17 b relationship stack yeah
01:52:21 this is insightful
01:52:24 you see this well first up the first
01:52:27 thing that really got born home to me I
01:52:31 as I said the gospel was the word that
01:52:35 that combination that
01:52:38 the thing in Hebrew that would be come
01:52:40 down as the word would be Torah
01:52:44 yeah
01:52:45 well you know gospel was the word and
01:52:48 the word and Torah was with the sun
01:52:50 because it actually that’s what the
01:52:52 beginning of the world was right yeah
01:52:55 before the world was Toro was with the
01:52:57 sun yeah
01:53:03 and the Sun and
01:53:06 this sets the relations of the Gospel
01:53:11 with Jesus Christ and uh
01:53:15 for those who aren’t into the Hebrew
01:53:18 roots parlance
01:53:19 with the gospel with Jesus Christ and
01:53:23 Jesus Christ with God
01:53:28 or in other words
01:53:31 Torah with Yeshua and Yeshua
01:53:34 with Elohim
01:53:36 which goes along with uh how we’re going
01:53:38 to live Torah in the eternities
01:53:41 yep
01:53:44 and also with what Joseph Smith said
01:53:46 what is not Eternal is not a Yahweh so
01:53:50 if the law we live now is not Eternal
01:53:52 it’s not from Yahweh
01:53:55 yeah
01:53:58 anyways okay I I think that’s good on
01:54:02 that a there no so I would be unless you
01:54:05 guys have another inclination I would go
01:54:07 I’m prone to go down to this other a
01:54:09 yeah
01:54:14 foreign record of the Sun
01:54:17 so
01:54:23 that one was pretty easy for me that’s
01:54:25 what I see
01:54:26 yeah and that’s
01:54:28 yeah I I see that pretty well that makes
01:54:33 sense well and but what this is also
01:54:36 showing it’s showing that same
01:54:37 relational thing the sun was with God
01:54:39 and the sun was of God
01:54:42 no man hath seen God Elohim at any time
01:54:46 except he hath born record of the Sun
01:54:51 made the great point
01:54:54 they can’t do either of these because
01:54:56 these two A’s go together except unless
01:55:01 he had porn record of the Sun yep just
01:55:04 as uh
01:55:06 those
01:55:09 are ashamed to Bear witness of me in the
01:55:11 world I will not bear witness of them
01:55:14 but on another level of meeting
01:55:17 what did Jesus Christ say to his
01:55:19 disciples
01:55:22 um when they asked him to show them the
01:55:23 father
01:55:26 uh I think you said that wrong but when
01:55:30 when the apostles asked these questions
01:55:32 yeah that’s a that’s a yeah that’s what
01:55:35 you said maybe I heard something
01:55:36 different but anyways maybe I I okay I
01:55:39 said disciples I should have said
01:55:40 anyways
01:55:42 um
01:55:43 I I know what you mean now if I didn’t
01:55:45 quite catch it and
01:55:47 um
01:55:49 if you have seen me you have seen the
01:55:52 father if you have seen me you have seen
01:55:54 the father so this is another level of
01:55:57 meaning on here well he’s literally
01:55:59 saying I am the father
01:56:01 yeah do you not know me yet Thomas
01:56:05 poor Thomas but
01:56:11 do you not know me
01:56:15 thank you
01:56:16 even one of those he chose didn’t know
01:56:19 him at that point I mean he did later
01:56:21 right yeah
01:56:24 so don’t beat yourself up if you haven’t
01:56:26 figured it out yet all right give
01:56:28 yourself time but
01:56:30 um
01:56:31 not too much time right because if you
01:56:36 don’t wait but be patient with yourself
01:56:38 while digitally seeking to work on it so
01:56:40 let me clarify
01:56:42 for those who need the the very explicit
01:56:46 word
01:56:49 um but anyways but I uh no man has seen
01:56:52 God except
01:56:54 it is through him who cannot be the
01:56:57 Snape art and no man can be said for
01:57:00 acceptance through him no man can be
01:57:01 saved or
01:57:04 maybe it’s building
01:57:06 no man can see Elohim at any time except
01:57:09 he had born record of the Sun for his is
01:57:12 it for except it is through him no man
01:57:16 can be saved so maybe that’s building
01:57:18 actually yeah yeah that’s a builder
01:57:20 that’s a builder I right now I’m
01:57:22 inclined to think it’s more a builder
01:57:23 than a crescent yeah
01:57:27 um
01:57:29 then what then something that’s actually
01:57:31 going back right right rather than going
01:57:35 because I’m going back no man has seen
01:57:38 El him or the father right because yeah
01:57:41 the same thing at any time except he
01:57:44 hath born record of the Sun so
01:57:49 unless you believe in Yeshua this
01:57:51 who is the son
01:57:55 who saves us because of what he did you
01:57:58 can’t bear witness of the father who is
01:58:01 the judge
01:58:03 except it is through Yeshua
01:58:06 because without him no one can be saved
01:58:10 yep
01:58:12 yeah I think that’s a builder ABC
01:58:17 I I literally do this stuff on all the
01:58:20 chiasms I do some of them are easier
01:58:21 than others but I look at this in depth
01:58:24 but
01:58:26 the concepts and how they’re building
01:58:27 and what it’s doing to help figure out
01:58:30 these things yeah so when I say
01:58:33 I put more depth than I actually
01:58:35 explicitly write out it’s true these
01:58:37 chiasms have death
01:58:41 yeah
01:58:42 so yeah you know it’s just like all the
01:58:45 stuff that we’ve been expounding on in
01:58:47 the in the upper a
01:58:51 H that’s not written
01:58:54 it’s not written there
01:58:56 but it’s pretty clear
01:58:59 for those with eyes to see yeah this is
01:59:02 where those this is like a real study
01:59:06 practice to do this
01:59:11 um
01:59:11 and and if you really care to get it
01:59:14 right you think about what’s going on in
01:59:16 these things too as you see Ben and I
01:59:19 doing right now right we’re discussing
01:59:21 it trying to figure out what what what
01:59:23 makes most sense
01:59:25 on how to present this
01:59:29 and it’s not always obvious right away
01:59:31 at least not always to me
01:59:33 well no it’s presentation and
01:59:35 presentation is not always the best
01:59:38 presentation is not always an obvious
01:59:40 thing
01:59:43 so let’s go I’m applying to just go to
01:59:47 work on this B now unless you want to go
01:59:49 somewhere else not sure why not
01:59:52 let’s see all things for me so
02:00:03 yeah yes
02:00:05 [Music]
02:00:07 that’s pretty clear
02:00:16 so this one I see this is a support
02:00:20 this is a this is a supporting chiasm
02:00:23 for a
02:00:27 well
02:00:28 what I’m seeing in B is a support is a
02:00:31 lot there’s a lot of support for a
02:00:33 because you’ve got the same you’ve got
02:00:35 again but then again you would are you
02:00:38 talking about ba and BB
02:00:40 the the uh or the root a yeah
02:00:45 b b ties back into the root a uh yes
02:00:51 that’s all that’s what I’m saying yeah
02:00:52 yeah I agree with that
02:00:54 because they’re building a they’re
02:00:56 building up a concept right yeah they’re
02:00:59 they’re learning the foundation to get G
02:01:03 yeah
02:01:06 that’s what they’re doing they’re
02:01:08 building an explanation together yeah so
02:01:10 if you think of this as a pyramid
02:01:12 your A’s or your bass is it a scheme
02:01:15 maybe did you get a pyramid scheme
02:01:19 [Laughter]
02:01:21 maybe just going off of a modern day
02:01:24 priest craft yeah there you go let’s
02:01:27 let’s uphold that for the world I’m
02:01:29 sorry
02:01:31 I’m sidetracking us my bad sorry go
02:01:34 ahead
02:01:35 and so
02:01:37 um so
02:01:39 for those uh we are recording right now
02:01:42 right yeah do you want me to pause it
02:01:43 I’m good no so I’m going to talk about
02:01:46 what we’re doing here
02:01:48 so the we as we’ve divided this into A’s
02:01:52 B all through all the way a through F
02:01:55 you know
02:01:58 let’s see I wonder sorry go ahead a is
02:02:02 your base the B is the next level up c e
02:02:06 c d e and so on until we get to the
02:02:08 Pinnacle which is what we’re actually
02:02:10 supposed to be directed towards by the
02:02:14 chiasm which is G
02:02:18 um so
02:02:20 now that we’ve explained that let’s go
02:02:23 on
02:02:25 so I I know we already did but I’m
02:02:28 always rethinking these things
02:02:30 right of course I’ve even redone
02:02:32 remapped a few a little bit that I’ve
02:02:34 published because I this is just the
02:02:36 continual thing yeah because these two
02:02:38 are right these two are repetitions of
02:02:40 the same exact same idea yeah I think
02:02:42 that’s better
02:02:47 and I think and I I can see that the
02:02:51 purpose of this and without him right
02:02:53 so I think that one’s better anyways yes
02:02:57 but I do think this b is another ABC
02:03:01 yes it builds Builder a builder
02:03:06 and and definitely yeah this be yeah
02:03:09 that’s definitely a builder right there
02:03:12 and the light shyness in the world and
02:03:13 the world perceiveth it not
02:03:18 this one’s pointing us towards
02:03:21 the world perceive if not it’s pointing
02:03:24 really pointing this up to the next
02:03:25 level of the pyramid
02:03:27 as it were
02:03:29 so my first inclination is this
02:03:34 I could
02:03:39 Maybe
02:03:47 yes do the
02:03:52 and
02:03:55 in some ways I’m a little more inclined
02:03:57 to do that
02:03:59 yes and so yeah and so yeah so what you
02:04:02 have here the BCAAs are in contrast yeah
02:04:06 are in contrast of each other and the
02:04:10 BCBS yes and
02:04:13 we’re talking about the world
02:04:16 setting up who is the um the
02:04:21 non-perceptive and who receives the
02:04:24 light
02:04:26 yeah uh I I need to pause I need to get
02:04:30 a drink I’ll be right back
02:04:32 so
02:04:34 [Laughter]
02:04:37 um I don’t know if you want to repeat
02:04:38 anything while I was gone no no no I was
02:04:41 I was just uh I was just talking about
02:04:44 we’re just chit chatting there oh that’s
02:04:46 fine uh so one thing I was thinking
02:04:49 um well I was getting my drink
02:04:52 some of this what we’re bringing out
02:04:54 without what Joseph Smith restored
02:04:57 including big sections would not be
02:05:01 possible without the jst
02:05:03 yeah right
02:05:06 um here I’ll just share the other screen
02:05:07 again real quick
02:05:10 um
02:05:11 so this is a ploy to
02:05:14 help people believe in the jst
02:05:17 um
02:05:18 but it did come from you there’s these
02:05:20 big sections
02:05:22 mostly Adam there’s a few big sections
02:05:25 taken out
02:05:26 but this chaism that we’re working on a
02:05:29 good sections of it wouldn’t not be
02:05:31 possible without that jst
02:05:34 so just in support of the jst I do like
02:05:38 this
02:05:40 okay so with that thought let’s go back
02:05:43 and work some more
02:05:46 personally I do like doing this and just
02:05:49 go look at my all things
02:05:51 you should do post I did a hundred and
02:05:54 one
02:05:56 focusisms in there doing this one by one
02:06:00 anyways well this is the first one I’ve
02:06:02 done with someone this is actually kind
02:06:04 of fun batting it off but yeah actually
02:06:07 batting it off of people it’s kind of
02:06:09 cool yeah uh okay
02:06:12 so I think that’s good right there right
02:06:15 I mean it may look funny but at the same
02:06:18 time it’s what’s there right yeah you
02:06:21 know in the world and the world
02:06:24 yeah it doesn’t have to it doesn’t
02:06:28 necessarily have to look great it just
02:06:29 has to
02:06:31 it’s what’s there
02:06:33 yeah yeah
02:06:35 and that’s what you got to work with
02:06:36 yeah yeah so let’s go here
02:06:40 d a
02:06:42 foreign
02:06:47 [Music]
02:06:49 To Us by the will of the father
02:06:54 for the breaker and shall received his
02:06:57 fullness and of his fullness have we all
02:07:00 received I I don’t know if these are
02:07:01 good breaking points but this is you’re
02:07:03 seeing what I usually do this is
02:07:06 this is the first step
02:07:09 you break it doesn’t have to be but I I
02:07:12 do this is what I do all right
02:07:15 yeah but it makes sense that’s that’s
02:07:17 what I’m saying it makes sense I gotta
02:07:20 do my Majestic pronoun
02:07:24 I missed a spot there’s his fullness up
02:07:28 here is there another one my device is
02:07:30 great and his name
02:07:37 and as many as believe on his name yeah
02:07:40 there we go
02:07:42 shall receive his fullness
02:07:45 there we go oh his fullness is so this
02:07:48 has got to be the center right there
02:07:50 okay yes fullness fullness
02:07:52 yeah the absolute repetition of the
02:07:55 exact same word Eternal eternal
02:08:01 [Music]
02:08:05 I don’t know in the beginning Grace
02:08:12 I’m getting even Sun
02:08:17 by the will of the father
02:08:19 in some ways this you know fullness and
02:08:21 fullness that would make me think Center
02:08:23 but right now I’m I’m
02:08:25 not thinking so much I’m not thinking so
02:08:28 much
02:08:29 um
02:08:30 and as many as Shall Believe on his name
02:08:32 shall receive of his fullness that does
02:08:34 seem to be a uh Pinnacle Point
02:08:39 sorry which one do you think
02:08:41 as many as as many as believe on his
02:08:44 name shall receive of his fullness that
02:08:46 seems so that this could be a center one
02:08:59 I know
02:09:01 Okay so
02:09:02 silent was by the will of the father
02:09:08 what is the will of the father
02:09:10 why can we have Grace because of the son
02:09:13 and in the beginning
02:09:15 and through his grace it was from the
02:09:18 beginning right from the foundation of
02:09:20 the world
02:09:22 uh immortality internal life flesh this
02:09:25 is I those are contrasts with each other
02:09:28 yeah those are two contrasts with each
02:09:30 other
02:09:31 and sent unto us by the will of the
02:09:33 father and the will of the father is
02:09:35 yeah so this is going to be
02:09:38 sorry
02:09:39 I get excited I’m excited too I’m just
02:09:43 trying to get this
02:09:47 okay I need I gotta get these labels
02:09:50 right yeah you got to get the yeah you
02:09:52 got to get the yeah
02:09:54 and some of the times with these big
02:09:56 ones you can get lost
02:09:59 yep
02:10:10 I’m not complaining that it can be a
02:10:12 little easier to get lost while working
02:10:13 with someone else
02:10:14 and it’s just because some of these are
02:10:17 they get deep but anyways I’m I’m glad
02:10:20 you suggested to do this this is fun
02:10:22 okay
02:10:23 as many as believe on his name shall
02:10:25 receive them yeah this is this is great
02:10:27 that’s that’s it right there
02:10:31 I think
02:10:34 uh
02:10:40 okay
02:10:42 yeah it probably doesn’t matter but I
02:10:44 just you like the idea of having the two
02:10:47 in the middle as well it’s like the two
02:10:48 D’s more than one but yeah
02:10:54 I’m okay with that but
02:10:57 um
02:10:57 but
02:10:59 made very well
02:11:02 yeah this is probably a
02:11:04 minor point
02:11:07 yeah I mean yeah so I think that that
02:11:11 yeah okay I will
02:11:14 okay
02:11:15 I’m back sorry about that
02:11:17 okay
02:11:21 I think that’s good unless you wanted to
02:11:23 say something about it because I think I
02:11:25 think that’s I think that’s about as I
02:11:27 think that’s about it’s fully fleshed
02:11:29 out is it’s going to as we can get them
02:11:32 and that definitely goes with the other
02:11:34 ba right yeah
02:11:36 yeah
02:11:38 definitely it’s going along the same
02:11:40 lines now we go here
02:11:44 the law was given through Moses yeah
02:11:46 this one is pretty simple at least in my
02:11:48 mind yeah it is
02:11:51 um it’s a little bit of contrasting
02:12:04 on the obsessed doing stuff like that
02:12:07 but yeah
02:12:10 well you got to get the you got to get
02:12:12 the you got to get the Hellenistic out
02:12:14 of here yeah that’s partly what I’m
02:12:16 doing right
02:12:25 okay but I think BB’s done right yep
02:12:28 yeah that’s that’s uh
02:12:31 I can see that
02:12:34 and then you have BC the law of Moses
02:12:37 was after a carnal commandment yep so
02:12:39 the gospel this is a new idea I think
02:12:43 that’s an interesting idea though if you
02:12:46 look at it
02:12:47 was after a carnal commandment so the
02:12:50 law of Moses being carnal commandment
02:12:52 even we’ve had this discussion about
02:12:55 certain Commandments
02:12:58 being carnal versus spiritual well
02:13:01 there’s the temple Spirit temporal
02:13:04 versus spiritual carnal carnal is just
02:13:06 about the blood the blood which is what
02:13:09 the administration of death which is the
02:13:12 daily performance and ordinances right
02:13:14 killing of two Lambs but anyway sorry go
02:13:17 ahead no you’re good you’re good oh yeah
02:13:21 okay
02:13:23 but the gospel was after the power of an
02:13:26 endless life through Jesus Christ yes
02:13:27 who is
02:13:30 playing all kinds of references in here
02:13:33 to the nature of Christ and for the
02:13:35 nature of the relationship with the
02:13:37 between
02:13:38 uh this is what I’m seeing
02:14:00 yeah those two and these two are
02:14:03 connected
02:14:07 and then
02:14:14 yes
02:14:18 yeah that’s what I see
02:14:21 death versus life so
02:14:24 it’s building and destroying contrast
02:14:29 right
02:14:30 yep which ties right back to Daniel 9.
02:14:41 because yep the Forgiveness versus The
02:14:44 Curse
02:14:46 all right uh yeah because Daniel got the
02:14:49 blessing the forgiveness
02:14:52 and the nation got the curse because
02:14:55 they rejected
02:14:57 and why they get the law Moses because
02:14:59 they rejected the law
02:15:01 and look at the first one right tore and
02:15:05 they were giving
02:15:07 extra they were giving extra they didn’t
02:15:09 take away Torah they were given more as
02:15:12 a punishment
02:15:15 to help keep them in remembrance but
02:15:17 because at all points to what saves us
02:15:20 at all the law Models All Points to
02:15:22 Yeshua and his great sacrifice
02:15:26 amen
02:15:28 um
02:15:30 [Music]
02:15:35 uh
02:15:38 Okay so
02:15:41 be a
02:15:44 B
02:15:46 B
02:15:47 and b c
02:15:50 right so I think we did the B’s yep B is
02:15:54 our fleshed out
02:15:56 and I mean just to review ba goes with b
02:15:59 a b c i mean b b goes with b b and b c
02:16:03 goes with BC right
02:16:13 but it can also make it a little more
02:16:15 confusing it’s it’s a double-edged sword
02:16:17 there
02:16:20 they all go together yeah
02:16:22 okay
02:16:26 um
02:16:33 in the sea
02:16:35 I just just seen a game
02:16:39 all right
02:16:41 yeah that’s the ACB
02:16:46 and then is this also just a Sim this
02:16:50 may or may not
02:16:52 well actually so this is this is
02:16:55 interesting like John and John so I
02:16:57 wonder if C needs to be split up into
02:17:00 two
02:17:02 interesting yeah yeah I mean I’m just
02:17:05 throwing out a theory here this is where
02:17:06 we have to go flush it out
02:17:10 that
02:17:11 John bear witness of him
02:17:15 okay
02:17:19 yes
02:17:21 [Music]
02:17:24 where he was before me I think the next
02:17:31 but I may be mistaken I have been before
02:17:34 but
02:17:36 who cometh after me okay I just
02:17:38 preferred before me that it seems yeah
02:17:41 slightly different idea so yeah
02:17:49 but this is like a reiteration
02:17:53 that he cometh after me is preferred
02:17:55 before me last first first last once
02:17:57 again
02:18:05 [Music]
02:18:11 foreign
02:18:20 along with that
02:18:23 that makes me think we need to split C
02:18:25 into two because this yeah goes with
02:18:29 that
02:18:32 right maybe there was a man sent from
02:18:35 God
02:18:36 [Music]
02:18:39 okay yeah oh I see yeah six needs to be
02:18:42 split and yes
02:18:44 foreign
02:19:03 this is not for the faint-hearted
02:19:09 gotta know your alphabet
02:19:14 because
02:19:15 um I think that fits better
02:19:17 uh
02:19:19 absolutely
02:19:20 okay
02:19:22 all right so we have C and D now let’s
02:19:26 go do e
02:19:28 same came into the world for a witnessed
02:19:30 Fair witness of the light
02:19:34 the bear record of the Gospel through
02:19:36 the sun unto all
02:19:38 that through him then my ability
02:19:51 foreign
02:19:56 so I’m inclined to go ABC
02:19:59 ba
02:20:08 okay yeah I can see that yeah I think
02:20:11 that’s a good idea
02:20:17 let’s see
02:20:18 the same
02:20:20 huh you’re in the world for a witness
02:20:23 that through him and my colleague okay
02:20:25 fair witness of the light unto all
02:20:28 Fair record of the Gospel through the
02:20:30 son yep excellent that’s perfect
02:20:33 because a witness unto all right witness
02:20:36 yep so that through him
02:20:47 the same
02:20:48 John
02:20:52 yeah so they’re saying that John
02:20:55 yep
02:20:59 and might believe
02:21:02 meaning that’s what everybody should do
02:21:04 bring people to believe in Yeshua right
02:21:06 John was just the best at it
02:21:21 yeah I think that’s good
02:21:24 yeah and then yeah I like that okay now
02:21:27 I think we can come down to this other e
02:21:32 H the same word was made flesh
02:21:35 you call them on us and we beheld his
02:21:38 glory
02:21:44 the glory as of the only begotten of the
02:21:46 father
02:21:47 full of grace and truth
02:22:01 and this might
02:22:05 I see a possible a and CBA
02:22:10 she’s kind of I’m not like solid on it
02:22:13 no no I’m not solid on that
02:22:17 well this is descriptive of that
02:22:24 well he we could have some contrast well
02:22:27 let’s see if same word
02:22:31 the same word was made flesh
02:22:38 if he didn’t come
02:22:40 we couldn’t have Grace if he’s right so
02:22:43 I can definitely see those two going
02:22:45 together that’s connection that’s a
02:22:46 definite connection and he dwelt Among
02:22:48 Us
02:22:50 the glory as of the only begotten of the
02:22:53 spot
02:22:54 actually yeah
02:22:56 yeah I
02:23:03 and then what are we supposed to do
02:23:06 behold his glory
02:23:08 yeah
02:23:14 and he dwelt Among Us
02:23:16 yeah as the only begotten of the father
02:23:18 right yeah I I think that fits
02:23:23 I I see I see all that coming together
02:23:25 yeah because we can’t have Grace unless
02:23:28 he came down in the flesh he dwelt among
02:23:30 us so you see here’s the
02:23:32 uh see the only begotten of the father
02:23:35 and because of that we could behold his
02:23:37 glory but anyways what are you saying
02:23:39 and that’s really interesting because
02:23:41 here we have the chiasm of the messenger
02:23:44 and here we have the chiasm the chiasm
02:23:47 of the Elias and the chiasm of the Sun
02:23:51 yeah
02:23:53 and they’re both a b c b a
02:23:56 yep and so I think that uh gives more
02:23:59 support for it right
02:24:02 absolutely okay
02:24:05 let’s go to f
02:24:06 he was not that light but came to bear
02:24:09 witness of that life yeah that was
02:24:10 simple
02:24:11 that one’s worse yeah
02:24:19 foreign
02:24:23 okay and he was not born he was born not
02:24:26 a blood nor of the will of the flesh nor
02:24:27 the will of man but of God
02:24:38 so here’s what I’ve seen ABC
02:24:41 yeah I can see that
02:24:45 because I see it building yeah because
02:24:47 that’s a different idea the will of the
02:24:49 flesh
02:24:50 or man
02:24:52 but of God is a different is the same
02:24:58 I would go one step
02:25:03 further yeah
02:25:10 um
02:25:13 I could maybe go a b b a
02:25:20 um
02:25:24 you think that’s an a you think that’s
02:25:26 tied back to that or maybe
02:25:35 a b
02:25:45 yeah born of Elohim
02:25:49 yes
02:25:50 because not of the flesh right nor of
02:25:53 the will of the flesh
02:25:55 yeah
02:25:58 that’s pretty cool
02:26:00 I think that’s what it is because he was
02:26:02 he was born
02:26:04 of God
02:26:06 not blood
02:26:08 or the willow man
02:26:09 which ultimately is the will of Flesh
02:26:13 right because blood is sin
02:26:15 yep
02:26:19 okay all right so
02:26:23 let’s go to G
02:26:25 which is the TR which was the True Light
02:26:27 which lighteth every man of cometh in
02:26:29 this world that’s pretty that’s not very
02:26:31 straightforward oops
02:26:33 foreign
02:26:40 but as many as received him to them he
02:26:42 gave power to become the sons of God
02:26:44 only to them who believed on his name
02:26:46 who believe on his name and that’s a
02:26:49 three-part right there and this actually
02:26:51 fits
02:26:53 in the same way that their F and F and F
02:26:57 appears a two-part F that mirror is a
02:26:59 three-part
02:27:03 so I think this is a uh Aba
02:27:09 I I see that as many as I’ve received
02:27:13 him I only to them who believe on his
02:27:15 name yes because those two it’s two ways
02:27:18 of saying the same thing
02:27:19 yeah and it’s building to this is the
02:27:22 Epic right here yep
02:27:26 yes
02:27:54 right yeah
02:27:57 that that works I’m not gonna do slash
02:27:59 I’m gonna do and
02:28:02 yeah
02:28:04 because it really is
02:28:07 both
02:28:09 yeah
02:28:10 the the idioms both on name yeah
02:28:13 and a lot of it go one of both contacts
02:28:17 and sometimes even sore seeing more now
02:28:20 what I thought was only Authority I’m
02:28:22 actually seeing Authority and character
02:28:24 in places yeah no or I used to only see
02:28:26 yeah well then that’s because authority
02:28:29 authority and character
02:28:32 um well you come under his authority and
02:28:34 you assume his character yeah and when
02:28:37 we receive him
02:28:39 we want to become like him right yes
02:28:41 that’s a character and if we believe if
02:28:44 we don’t believe in the character we
02:28:46 wouldn’t receive him we didn’t believe
02:28:48 in his authority we wouldn’t receive him
02:28:51 right we throw we’d throw everything out
02:28:55 yeah well I see that happening a lot
02:28:57 baby yeah
02:28:59 yeah okay so I think that she’s done
02:29:03 yeah I I like it okay
02:29:10 even the Sun
02:29:14 views in the world
02:29:16 in the world was made by him and the
02:29:19 world knew him not
02:29:23 [Music]
02:29:27 yeah well I see this is where some of
02:29:30 these middle ones
02:29:33 get a little confusing well let’s see
02:29:39 okay know him not received him not
02:29:50 foreign
02:29:56 [Music]
02:30:04 so I’ve seen a b b a a b is my first
02:30:09 inclination well that’s what I that’s
02:30:12 what I see is
02:30:14 because yeah because you’ve got who is
02:30:16 in the world the world was made by him
02:30:18 these are two
02:30:20 and the world knew him not yeah so God
02:30:24 [Music]
02:30:26 yeah
02:30:29 kind of a kind of a uh contrasting
02:30:32 relationship he was in the world but the
02:30:34 world didn’t see him yeah
02:30:37 and they didn’t know the son of God
02:30:40 right so yeah so let’s go with a b b a
02:30:43 BBA area
02:30:51 and this one I would call an A B
02:30:56 excuse that way
02:30:58 because there’s no other way to divide
02:31:00 any of this it doesn’t make it that
02:31:03 makes any sense yeah that one’s pretty
02:31:06 simple on a clear-cut I think
02:31:08 um yeah pretty much
02:31:12 so well that was that was awesome fun
02:31:14 yeah I think we learned from it too
02:31:17 yeah so I hope I hope I hope everybody
02:31:20 else has uh at least learned something
02:31:23 if they didn’t have as much fun as we
02:31:25 did
02:31:27 well if the whole point of the chiasm is
02:31:30 to go is is the center what would you
02:31:34 say is the center it’s the H the H right
02:31:37 so he was in the world and the world was
02:31:41 made by him
02:31:42 and the world knew him not
02:31:45 came unto his own his own received him
02:31:48 not which makes it a restatement of what
02:31:51 happened on Mount Sinai
02:31:54 and this actually goes back to Daniel 9
02:31:57 right here and his own Israel and his
02:32:01 own
02:32:03 received him not
02:32:05 right just put Daniel 9 States
02:32:09 I’m just thinking about it because we’ve
02:32:10 talked a little bit about it earlier
02:32:11 right yeah exactly and and this I think
02:32:16 also I’m gonna do this
02:32:23 because a h a is the world h b is Israel
02:32:30 yes
02:32:32 right
02:32:34 yeah the world in Israel are not the
02:32:37 same no
02:32:39 they’re but this is kind of doing the
02:32:42 same thing for both right yeah
02:32:47 yeah the world didn’t even know him and
02:32:50 Israel didn’t receive him so they might
02:32:53 as well if he went to the world a lot of
02:32:56 the world would have repented and went
02:32:57 to him but he was supposed to go to his
02:33:00 own right yeah well he made a covenant
02:33:03 with it he had to go to his own for what
02:33:06 needed to happen but Daniel 9.
02:33:11 must be fulfilled well and also I I
02:33:15 think it’s just more than that Daniel
02:33:16 9’s key
02:33:18 on a lot of things and I I see that
02:33:21 Daniel line in this but anyways yeah
02:33:23 absolutely
02:33:26 I
02:33:27 I’m going to publish that
02:33:30 and that is
02:33:33 this is the strongest statement that we
02:33:36 have in the New Testament
02:33:40 that the word
02:33:42 that Torah was with Christ from the
02:33:45 beginning
02:33:47 yeah
02:33:49 I think that was pretty good in fact I
02:33:52 was a little nervous doing this recorded
02:33:56 but I think we did pretty well
02:33:57 mm-hmm
02:33:59 okay now you know here it is being put
02:34:03 on the spot
02:34:05 which I pretty much do all these
02:34:07 scripture studies right is much harder
02:34:09 than pre-planning
02:34:11 a lesson and a lecture beforehand that
02:34:14 you just read your script and do
02:34:17 now
02:34:18 there is one thing
02:34:21 that
02:34:22 and Ben and Kelsey’s Chit Chat
02:34:24 is actually very important to bring out
02:34:28 and that is were they chatting
02:34:31 before when you went on a break to get
02:34:33 the water oh okay
02:34:35 anyway
02:34:37 this is what was discussed
02:34:41 how do we do it how can we do this
02:34:44 making chiasms
02:34:46 first you must familiarize yourself
02:34:51 with the materials we brought it out I’m
02:34:56 being tested technicality but we didn’t
02:35:00 make this we brought it out it was
02:35:03 already there yeah
02:35:05 but it starts with familiarity in the
02:35:07 word that’s all I’m trying to say if you
02:35:10 want to do this if you want to be able
02:35:11 to see this if you want to have the eyes
02:35:14 to see it first apply to the Lord and
02:35:18 the spirit
02:35:19 secondly
02:35:21 go to the scriptures and familiarize
02:35:24 yourselves with them
02:35:26 thirdly read then go through and
02:35:30 research and search it’s searching for
02:35:33 yeah specific things searching for
02:35:36 specific things and after searching
02:35:40 then you do deep
02:35:44 you can get into the deep search and you
02:35:46 do deep search and that’s what the
02:35:48 chiasms are is the Deep search
02:35:52 yeah and if you don’t see it the first
02:35:54 time try again later because the one’s
02:35:56 about to zits I couldn’t see him for a
02:35:58 long time even when I tried it was not
02:36:00 until I did the Eternal round post
02:36:04 that I can see it that’s when I saw it
02:36:06 and I tried before I couldn’t do it
02:36:08 before no you don’t you don’t always I
02:36:11 had a sense that this whole structure
02:36:13 here was chaastic
02:36:15 it was basically chiastic just because
02:36:18 of the repetition and I really just
02:36:21 wanted to break it down
02:36:23 and see
02:36:24 and when you look at it in chiasm
02:36:28 it’s glorious
02:36:30 yeah all the connections
02:36:33 um
02:36:35 it’s beautiful I I love this stuff
02:36:39 uh thank you for suggesting this one
02:36:42 right and
02:36:44 I I you know there’s a lot of people
02:36:46 attacking the jst I I I’m not going to
02:36:49 put too many notes in this but I know
02:36:51 one thing I’m going to add when I post
02:36:52 this if I I’ll work on this will be the
02:36:54 one I’ll focus on until I do this one
02:36:56 and then I’ll go back to the uh Jake
02:36:59 Hilton one and then I’ll go back to the
02:37:02 um King David Brigham Young one
02:37:05 all right uh I gotta have my uh stack
02:37:09 there right anyways yep Gotta Keep Your
02:37:11 Stack Up
02:37:15 um
02:37:19 jst because this is not possible without
02:37:22 the GST as we saw right
02:37:26 I I so on the GST I do believe
02:37:30 some of it was inspired but where on
02:37:34 Parts where he
02:37:35 went like
02:37:37 there’s little ones like V and da and
02:37:40 stuff like that I think he just
02:37:42 did it to make it easier
02:37:44 so I think some of the small ones I
02:37:47 think Joseph Smith said this just makes
02:37:49 it easier to read or these major ones
02:37:52 where this does have some major ones I
02:37:53 do believe those were inspired
02:37:55 completely
02:37:56 from Yahweh
02:37:59 does that make sense
02:38:01 yeah I think some of the little ones
02:38:04 I could go either way like like
02:38:07 um here I’m gonna go back to the screen
02:38:11 because the truth of the matter is even
02:38:14 if one is called as a servant of God
02:38:21 this uh they’ll still do something
02:38:23 they’ll still do some things for ease of
02:38:25 use
02:38:26 oh yeah
02:38:27 I mean you I I I I I
02:38:31 spend time putting in the glass Elohim
02:38:34 on God because I think it’s better and
02:38:36 because God is a pagan concept and what
02:38:40 gets but anyways but back to the thing
02:38:42 look here he just and this one he just
02:38:45 updated the spelling yeah I I don’t
02:38:49 think he got that one from inspiration
02:38:51 he’s just fixing spelling well that’s
02:38:54 not right
02:38:54 [Laughter]
02:38:59 well that’s not spelled right
02:39:03 like like this one that to which
02:39:08 I can go either way
02:39:14 might be a little better but I
02:39:18 I might be a little it might be a little
02:39:20 more grammatically correct actually yeah
02:39:22 which which could be I could see how it
02:39:24 could be a little better but something
02:39:25 like that I’m just I’m not that worried
02:39:27 about it doesn’t really change but this
02:39:31 we have a big block text or or
02:39:34 especially this is my favorite one
02:39:37 that I might comment a little bit on
02:39:39 this one in the post yeah because that
02:39:41 actually ties back into your post about
02:39:44 the the into your uh into your resource
02:39:50 page about the
02:39:52 law of Moses being car being the law of
02:39:54 carnal Commandments
02:39:56 yeah uh
02:40:00 so there’s a recording there’s two
02:40:03 questions on that right I have a post
02:40:05 coming up on that
02:40:07 oh oh okay
02:40:10 yeah so this can tie into that this can
02:40:12 tie into that upcoming post yeah yeah
02:40:14 Ben you got to keep clear what I have
02:40:16 posted and what I have shared that I
02:40:18 want to post okay
02:40:20 you got to keep that straight in your
02:40:22 head Stephen that’s impossible
02:40:26 uh probably is because I had a lot right
02:40:34 it’s just those shiny objects and
02:40:36 sometimes in the past I do these other
02:40:39 posts to support the posts I’m working
02:40:40 on and I don’t know so many levels I
02:40:43 just it’s so fun chasing squirrels I
02:40:46 have a diagnosis for you Stephen it’s
02:40:48 called the Oco shiny
02:40:55 yeah I I do have that some but I do it
02:40:59 to to because it was going to support
02:41:01 the other one so I wanted to add that
02:41:03 one first to make it so it’s a little
02:41:05 more clear for this one but then then
02:41:06 they didn’t get done
02:41:10 they’ve been useful because I I share
02:41:13 them here right and we go through it
02:41:15 anyways yeah
02:41:18 I I think I am going to a little bit at
02:41:21 least 18 some right
02:41:24 um if not more but and make a point that
02:41:27 this helps support
02:41:30 the validity of the GST
02:41:33 [Music]
02:41:35 because let’s let’s just go look 16
02:41:37 because 16 and 18 are big ones right
02:41:40 let’s see what it would be missing
02:41:43 so 60 minutes
02:41:48 uh all of that is 16 right
02:41:54 so that is all of ba
02:42:00 yeah that’s all ba yep second D which
02:42:04 then when
02:42:06 missing that up here so that completely
02:42:09 destroys the B
02:42:12 the B’s and their ABCs they’re basically
02:42:15 but basically what the uh basic
02:42:18 basically what they did is went out and
02:42:20 ripped the guts out of it
02:42:22 yeah well it it would get rid of the A
02:42:24 and the second B right that’s right
02:42:28 18 is another big one let’s go see and
02:42:32 that gets rid of
02:42:34 the sea
02:42:36 up there so those are two significant
02:42:39 that got rid of the ABC
02:42:42 oh yeah
02:42:44 so some of these others like this
02:42:46 Crossing out might not that make a big
02:42:48 of a difference but some of these like
02:42:51 that that one could be let’s go look at
02:42:52 it
02:42:56 should we include 19 in that chiasm yeah
02:43:00 that’s the last one
02:43:03 there’s a significantly added in seven
02:43:08 let’s go look at that I mean and that
02:43:10 basically as good as declares The
02:43:13 Mystery of the relationship between the
02:43:15 father and the son
02:43:18 that’s the thing about 19 that I see so
02:43:21 clearly now
02:43:23 um
02:43:28 yeah yeah I can see that
02:43:31 and no man have seen Elohim at any time
02:43:34 except he had foreign record of the sun
02:43:35 because
02:43:38 father is the son
02:43:44 him that no man can be saved no look at
02:43:48 this this is singular
02:43:51 instead of
02:43:53 except for them
02:43:56 except through him
02:43:58 of course a lot of people might not take
02:44:00 that as modalism right but I I can see
02:44:02 it as realism because it’s stating the
02:44:04 father is the son
02:44:05 right no
02:44:08 yep
02:44:09 because they are the same you see one
02:44:12 you see the other because they are the
02:44:14 same
02:44:18 so I mean yeah when you stop when you
02:44:21 stop trying to do metal gymnastics a lot
02:44:23 of this stuff just makes so much sense
02:44:24 yeah but mental gymnastics looks so much
02:44:27 fun that’s why it’s in the Olympics and
02:44:28 people watch it they make you uh
02:44:31 it’s fun to watch
02:44:35 my favorite is when they start doing
02:44:37 their mental gymnastics in Sunday school
02:44:40 and they can’t finish their thought
02:44:43 what’s because it’s just so complex
02:44:47 that sounds like a stupid thought
02:44:50 no it’s called I I generally tend to
02:44:53 refer them as a stupid of thought
02:44:56 well you know these mental gymnastics
02:44:59 can can make you look smarter instead of
02:45:03 just keeping it simple stupid
02:45:06 yeah oh
02:45:08 the kiss principle really you’re gonna
02:45:11 call on the kiss principles look how I’m
02:45:14 going to tie it and be really trusted
02:45:16 Yahweh which a kiss is symbolic a trust
02:45:20 you would keep it simple
02:45:22 thank you
02:45:27 uh all my Twisted Connections In My Head
02:45:31 yeah
02:45:33 you got no job
02:45:36 speaking which did you guys uh finish
02:45:38 watching Hunchback of Notre Dame
02:45:41 no still out I’m done okay
02:45:44 I connected the palm reading to our
02:45:47 works of the hand right because
02:45:50 I’m reading because how do you know how
02:45:53 what a person is or what they’re going
02:45:54 to become by their works and that’s what
02:45:56 palm reading is looking in your hand to
02:45:59 see who you are except they’re doing it
02:46:01 wrongly versus the right way of the
02:46:05 works right so the imagery is there but
02:46:08 they’ve Twisted it
02:46:10 yep yep
02:46:12 anyways I love imagery if you can’t
02:46:14 though
02:46:15 yeah I I actually have
02:46:20 so I’m gonna do one little thing
02:46:26 well the correct imagery you can turn
02:46:29 you can make a boring film brilliantly
02:46:31 exciting actually
02:46:36 where you can make what would look to be
02:46:37 a boring film with something brilliantly
02:46:39 exciting
02:46:42 so
02:46:44 other restoration traditions
02:46:47 will share this with people
02:46:49 to help so that way to help them
02:46:52 um do it and live up to it so
02:46:57 I’m just gonna do
02:47:01 oh where’d it go
02:47:07 I encourage you to learn the language
02:47:09 you have the capability to do this
02:47:12 Yahweh will assist you and you will able
02:47:16 to speak in a tongue that will be
02:47:17 familiar to those who you will teach and
02:47:19 they will learn much quickly though I
02:47:21 think that should be more quickly but
02:47:23 anyways that’s actually what it says
02:47:24 most people think so I
02:47:27 I believe the language I’m supposed to
02:47:29 be learning is the symbolic language
02:47:31 because like he’s been giving up to me
02:47:36 I I would have
02:47:38 I did horrible of learning German in
02:47:41 high school I don’t remember much I did
02:47:42 a little Spanish and and Elementary and
02:47:45 I’m in a Spanish-speaking country right
02:47:47 now and I I still have a hard time but I
02:47:50 believe the language I am supposed to
02:47:52 learn and help people learn more quickly
02:47:55 is a symbolic language
02:47:58 [Music]
02:48:00 I I do believe in most of my blessings I
02:48:03 do think there’s some
02:48:05 ldsisms in there that are not inspired
02:48:08 but there are things in it like that
02:48:11 makes me believe it’s Inspire at least
02:48:14 portions of it are inspired in
02:48:16 practically all of my patriarchal
02:48:18 blessings
02:48:20 sorry to hear that
02:48:22 I think I don’t have too much aliasisms
02:48:26 in mind I do have some
02:48:29 um
02:48:31 and that’s just one I think and as I’ve
02:48:33 done the research into my own background
02:48:35 I found the blessing was and the
02:48:38 blessing wasn’t even true even about my
02:48:41 lineage
02:48:42 no not me from and I’m obviously Judah
02:48:47 oh yeah just from your own genealogy I
02:48:49 yeah I actually I do believe I’m of
02:48:52 Eastern like mine States
02:48:54 um
02:48:55 so anyways
02:48:58 um I I I I have
02:49:02 is it Danish I think in German in me
02:49:05 well if you’ve got Danish in you the
02:49:07 odds are on
02:49:09 uh if you’re going through the
02:49:11 rationalization of British israelism
02:49:15 uh the odds are on and you do have some
02:49:18 uh Ephraim
02:49:20 okay well that makes sense and I just
02:49:23 there’s other reasons I think I’m I’ll
02:49:25 be from but
02:49:27 because the descendants of you from
02:49:31 According to British israelism became
02:49:33 the Germanic tribes which settled
02:49:35 England and uh British
02:49:41 uh
02:49:43 as the the word I’m forgetting how now
02:49:46 it’s been a while but it has to do with
02:49:47 the word covenant if I remember
02:49:49 correctly it’s been a while yeah
02:49:50 something along those lines
02:49:52 yeah but
02:49:55 I I I tend to think that it is I I tend
02:49:59 to think that I tend to believe the Lord
02:50:02 when he says what the curse will be
02:50:05 and there’s no set of people who has
02:50:07 fulfilled that curse more completely
02:50:12 than the descendants
02:50:14 or the the uh than the people who were
02:50:16 sold in slavery from Africa
02:50:20 huh I haven’t thought about that issue
02:50:22 but I I can see that
02:50:25 and I tend to believe the Lord I tend to
02:50:28 believe the Lord when he speaks
02:50:31 that makes some sense
02:50:33 um because that is a curse
02:50:37 right the the curse to be captive uh
02:50:41 cursed to be captive to All Nations to
02:50:43 be taken to strange lands made to
02:50:46 worship strange gods
02:50:49 yeah
02:50:52 oh that’s a good connection yes and a by
02:50:55 word
02:50:57 yeah that’s actually a fun concert
02:50:59 there’s still a hiss and a by word
02:51:01 especially among conservatives today
02:51:03 which I that doesn’t make sense to me
02:51:06 because
02:51:07 originally conservatives are dipping on
02:51:10 that but anyways yeah yeah no they’ve
02:51:13 basically literally slipped slot
02:51:20 because South Carolina before
02:51:25 I got a really I got a breakdown of
02:51:29 South Carolina history from a buddy of
02:51:31 mine who’s from South Carolina that’s
02:51:33 interesting you have to because isn’t it
02:51:36 uh the Revelation about
02:51:40 what some people think was the Civil War
02:51:43 which is not I forget 87 yeah in South
02:51:46 Carolina where it starts yes yep okay
02:51:49 yeah
02:51:50 but he basically said before the Civil
02:51:53 War
02:51:54 South Carolina was full of white
02:51:57 Democrats
02:51:59 and so they fought to you know
02:52:03 they fought for that and uh and then
02:52:07 they they lost and so they had to
02:52:10 conserve like the explanation makes
02:52:13 almost practically zero sense when you
02:52:16 actually look at the whole of it but
02:52:18 it’s like but then something changed and
02:52:21 so we fought for the right to conserve
02:52:24 those rights that we felt were being
02:52:26 threatened it’s basically discussing
02:52:29 rights are our stately rights you know
02:52:32 or our constitutional right well the
02:52:35 facts of the matter are the Democrats
02:52:37 used to be conservative yeah
02:52:40 and the Republicans use the Republicans
02:52:43 were the were the uh Liberal Liberal
02:52:46 antithesis to the uh Democratic they’ve
02:52:50 flip-flopped on what they’ve and they’ve
02:52:52 and they flip-flopped it’s real and
02:52:54 that’s why the South became and that’s
02:52:56 why the South became conservative as
02:52:58 opposed uh became Republican as opposed
02:53:01 to being Democrat when Democrats were
02:53:03 conservative sure because
02:53:05 the the left and the right changed on
02:53:07 which ones that they are Democrat and
02:53:09 Republic today is opposite
02:53:16 talk about how when Joseph Smith around
02:53:18 they were Democrats but that’s during
02:53:21 the time where they there were the
02:53:22 conservatives at that time the Democrats
02:53:24 right yeah yeah so it’s this if you
02:53:27 don’t know that that makes history well
02:53:30 if you don’t then but don’t take the
02:53:33 context of it then but you take it in
02:53:34 today’s context
02:53:37 you get things wrong just like which is
02:53:39 which is one of the reasons the Hebrew
02:53:41 scriptures with the Greek mindset you’ll
02:53:43 get it wrong
02:53:45 well and here’s the thing that’s also
02:53:48 one of the things one of my reasons why
02:53:50 I really get actually
02:53:54 I get very upset when people equate
02:53:58 biblical values you always values
02:54:02 with conservative values
02:54:05 oh I would yeah I don’t get upset with
02:54:07 it but I agree that they don’t
02:54:08 necessarily match up I I’m not a fully
02:54:12 mainstream conservative I’m more
02:54:15 conservative than liberal but I’m
02:54:17 somewhere in the middle and it would
02:54:18 depend you’re what’s referred to as a
02:54:21 moderate you’re like
02:54:23 you’re like me you’re a moderate
02:54:25 uh okay sure sure
02:54:28 um I I would say I’m a tourist yes
02:54:39 I am touring this world
02:54:43 that’s not where I was going but that
02:54:45 was pretty good there yeah
02:54:47 I’m just touring this world but I was
02:54:49 tourist it was more what I was saying
02:54:59 are you done sir no um
02:55:04 anyway
02:55:05 um
02:55:06 if we would keep Torah God’s way of
02:55:09 doing things it would solve a lot of
02:55:11 problems it really was well and the
02:55:13 thing is is that neither conservatives
02:55:15 nor Liberals are truly interested in
02:55:17 Torah uh in fact most of them on both
02:55:20 are going to actually go against it
02:55:23 yep yep just because
02:55:25 most of the Democrat those who control
02:55:28 the Democratic party and those who
02:55:29 control the republic party are both
02:55:31 controlled by the same people their
02:55:32 wings are the same bird of the occult
02:55:34 yeah that’s right
02:55:37 um
02:55:40 the Rubicon replicants
02:55:45 Republicans are generally the
02:55:48 more in the right but they’re not
02:55:51 completely right as we’ve stated here
02:55:53 but anyways but well I also think that
02:55:57 but here’s the thing they state they’re
02:55:59 in the right
02:56:00 don’t do what they State oh yeah so
02:56:03 they’re not in the right
02:56:05 yeah their own words are condemning them
02:56:07 yes yeah the same with their words it’s
02:56:11 just
02:56:13 their lips speak one thing and their
02:56:17 hearts are far from it I mean yeah
02:56:19 indeed
02:56:23 let me just say this everything is
02:56:26 spiritual there is nothing that is only
02:56:28 temporal yes everything is spiritual
02:56:32 there is nothing that is only Temple
02:56:34 yeah
02:56:35 [Music]
02:56:36 yeah if you want to understand the world
02:56:39 if you want to understand what’s going
02:56:41 on in the world you have to look you
02:56:42 have to understand the mystery religion
02:56:45 well I I so
02:56:48 I I I would disagree a little bit I
02:56:50 think that’s helpful but I think more
02:56:52 the more you know truth yeah that is
02:56:57 really what you should focus on
02:56:59 yeah I do believe that we should work at
02:57:01 exposing wickedness and some of that and
02:57:03 you cannot explain you cannot expose the
02:57:05 wickedness you cannot expose wickedness
02:57:07 if you don’t know where it is correct
02:57:09 and you won’t know it’s wicked unless
02:57:11 you know what the actual truth is then
02:57:12 do you think there’s a place of
02:57:14 understanding
02:57:15 the occult to some degree
02:57:18 but
02:57:20 it is better than a primary focus on
02:57:23 knowing truth it is better to know truth
02:57:26 if you do not know the if you have the
02:57:29 choice to learn about learning between
02:57:30 about between learning about the occult
02:57:33 and learning truth choose to learn truth
02:57:36 yeah because uh if you go look at the
02:57:38 occult trying to expose it and you don’t
02:57:40 know truths how are you going to expose
02:57:42 it
02:57:42 right you have nothing to compare it to
02:57:45 to and the coal has the black and the
02:57:49 white the good and the bad mixed
02:57:50 together so you’re on
02:57:52 the truth the law the Torah to discern
02:57:56 you won’t know what is right and wrong
02:57:58 and before long you will be converted
02:57:59 and become one of them yeah because you
02:58:02 will have no guiding principle
02:58:04 to help you know what is right
02:58:06 [Music]
02:58:09 so
02:58:11 I focus on
02:58:13 righteousness
02:58:15 and then expose the wickedness just like
02:58:17 in the first part of Matthew 7. right
02:58:19 just like in the Doctrine and Covenants
02:58:21 yeah
02:58:23 um
02:58:27 yep
02:58:28 did not see a similarly seek not to
02:58:32 declare my word but first seek to obtain
02:58:34 my word obtain the word act on it then
02:58:38 learn it teach it learn it then teach it
02:58:42 GNC 11.
02:58:45 yeah I agree with that it’s the same
02:58:49 thing
02:58:50 being said different ways in different
02:58:52 places right
02:58:55 uh but anyways uh it’s probably time to
02:58:58 go and yeah I I’d say I’d say so it’s 11
02:59:02 30. unless anybody is very where we are
02:59:05 some closing things they want to say
02:59:09 Zach do you have anything wise to get
02:59:11 into braces with
02:59:18 um
02:59:23 it’s okay if you don’t well
02:59:28 I had I think I have had like the
02:59:32 promising to
02:59:36 because I was viewing my
02:59:38 sugar combos
02:59:41 um playlists too much so I think I had
02:59:43 the prompting to like
02:59:46 and it said something to like
02:59:48 should focus more on Torah
02:59:51 well I think this is a competition for
02:59:54 you on that
02:59:57 there’s a place for it and on
03:00:00 it’s easier to go
03:00:02 learn about what everybody else is doing
03:00:04 wrong
03:00:05 but that won’t save you
03:00:08 learning I’m worried about learning
03:00:11 about learning about right ways and the
03:00:14 incorporating the right ways
03:00:17 yeah well I think with that let’s close
03:00:21 um yeah it’s about my time anyways and
03:00:23 it definitely looks like about kesley’s
03:00:26 times I’ve been tired and I I have but
03:00:29 I’d rather be that then I’m boring you
03:00:31 to death no
03:00:36 well you’re you’re a busy mom I can
03:00:39 understand that yeah
03:00:41 yeah I know I am glad that you’re
03:00:43 putting forth the effort to be here
03:00:44 however it may be right yeah you’re
03:00:48 trying and that’s the important part
03:00:51 maybe next time
03:00:54 maybe next time we can read Ruth like we
03:00:58 we’re thinking yeah let’s do let’s go
03:01:00 into Ruth next time maybe
03:01:03 um so next time unless Darren has a
03:01:06 whole lot of questions for us sure sure
03:01:08 um
03:01:10 we should focus on that and then if
03:01:12 there’s not we can share things like
03:01:14 these insights
03:01:16 yeah but actually I still think that uh
03:01:18 sharing Ruth might help Darren with some
03:01:21 of his uh
03:01:23 because I’m sorry there’s a lot of good
03:01:26 things good
03:01:30 lessons
03:01:32 and solid evidences that can be given
03:01:36 through Ruth about living the law
03:01:41 uh I agree with you
03:01:44 huh
03:01:45 but I would add to that all the
03:01:48 scriptures do that well I’m just
03:01:52 it’s just uh most beautiful don’t know
03:01:54 how to bring it out because they don’t
03:01:56 know the law
03:02:01 um because oh maybe let’s
03:02:05 because
03:02:08 what is the purposes of this life in
03:02:11 fact here maybe this might be a good
03:02:12 thing
03:02:13 now let me share my screen
03:02:21 hi Christy
03:02:31 here’s the purpose of life
03:02:33 do you not suppose that such things are
03:02:35 abominable unto him and created All
03:02:37 Flesh
03:02:39 and the one being is as precious as his
03:02:44 in his sight as the other
03:02:46 All Flesh is of the Dust
03:02:49 of Satan
03:02:51 and the self-same and purpose goal hath
03:02:55 he created them that they should keep
03:02:58 his Commandments
03:03:00 why did he create us let me read that
03:03:02 again for the self same purpose hath he
03:03:06 God Yahweh created them that they should
03:03:09 keep his Commandments and glorify him
03:03:12 forever
03:03:16 let us hear the conclusion of the whole
03:03:19 matter
03:03:20 Revere Elohim and keep his Commandments
03:03:25 for this is the whole Duty purpose of
03:03:28 man
03:03:30 he
03:03:32 hath he commanded any that he should not
03:03:34 partake of his salvation behold I say
03:03:36 unto you name be he hath given it free
03:03:39 unto all men and he hath commanded his
03:03:42 people
03:03:43 that they should persuade all men to
03:03:45 repent and that is to persuade them to
03:03:48 keep his Commandments
03:03:50 that’s uh in other words
03:03:54 and in other words for keep his
03:03:56 Commandments
03:03:57 because our natural bent is not
03:04:01 is to not do because we are with just
03:04:04 because we are of the dust as in Satan’s
03:04:07 domain
03:04:08 Satan shall eat of the Dust
03:04:12 and that’s where he finds him he needs
03:04:14 us and consumes us
03:04:17 is in the dust and so when they says the
03:04:21 preach repentance
03:04:23 he’s telling us to preach this Torah
03:04:25 right to teach his ways
03:04:28 because the preached repentance is to
03:04:30 preach people to come back to the law
03:04:33 and if you’re preaching it and if you’re
03:04:35 preaching it you better be walking it
03:04:37 yeah
03:04:40 we should be walking if you’re not
03:04:42 preaching it too but yeah but especially
03:04:45 you have to practice what you preach
03:04:47 otherwise you’re hypocrite
03:04:49 yeah um
03:04:52 right because the Book of Mormon says
03:04:54 you should only call teachers who are
03:04:55 actually walking the walk I mean that’s
03:04:57 not how they say it but that’s what it’s
03:04:58 saying
03:04:59 yeah it’s called paraphrase paraphrase
03:05:04 [Laughter]
03:05:09 I do it all the time
03:05:10 yeah anyways
03:05:13 um that’s probably a good thing to end
03:05:14 on
03:05:15 because it’s about my time and I think
03:05:17 it’s about all of our times
03:05:21 I can tell you that after that after
03:05:24 working out that that after working out
03:05:25 that chiasm it really it really helped
03:05:29 it really did help to have somebody else
03:05:31 there made it go a lot faster
03:05:35 um well I’ve done a few so I yeah it
03:05:39 does it
03:05:42 it can take some thought right
03:05:46 you have to you have to understand
03:05:48 the doctor
03:05:49 to really do it in depth because I mean
03:05:53 we we did a quick one overall one and
03:05:56 then we filled it out more right yep
03:05:58 exactly
03:05:59 it takes some thinking and it’s not
03:06:04 a no good exercise it is a good exercise
03:06:07 to get you to better understand it
03:06:10 really is
03:06:11 as well I think we saw here uh I’ll
03:06:16 Kelsey do you understand that those
03:06:18 verses better now for us having gone
03:06:20 through that
03:06:22 definitely
03:06:24 yeah so
03:06:26 and on those lines I will say I
03:06:30 understand scriptures better because of
03:06:32 this exercise
03:06:34 yeah
03:06:35 some of it part of it is that you can
03:06:38 see the different imageries that point
03:06:41 to the same thing
03:06:43 in building up the car or bringing out a
03:06:46 Kaizen like this helps you see it
03:06:49 yeah because you’re when you try to work
03:06:53 and figure something out you understand
03:06:55 it more than if someone just gave it to
03:06:57 you
03:06:59 it really does help
03:07:03 because I think a part of it helps you
03:07:05 see the imagery and the different way of
03:07:07 saying the same thing instead of it
03:07:09 being different concepts teaching
03:07:11 something different like a lot of people
03:07:12 take it as you start seeing it
03:07:15 differently
03:07:16 you start seeing it as a Hebrew would
03:07:18 see it because you’re doing a Hebrew act
03:07:21 this is Hebrew poetry
03:07:24 yeah Helen is poetry likes the Rhymes
03:07:27 because it sounds cool it’s catchy
03:07:30 Hebrew poetry has substance
03:07:35 Hellenistic world is based off of
03:07:37 Satan’s ideals it’s catchy it’s cute
03:07:39 it’s clever
03:07:41 it’s quick it’s not much
03:07:45 verses Yahweh gave us a mind
03:07:49 and he wants us to use it
03:07:53 and connect it and think and really have
03:07:56 a deep understanding yeah absolutely but
03:07:59 like I said after we’re after working
03:08:01 that out I was about I was about ready I
03:08:04 was about ready to do that okay so I’m
03:08:07 ready like a signal from Joseph Smith
03:08:09 you haven’t done this enough yet yeah
03:08:11 [Laughter]
03:08:14 I’ve done a lot of things he’s done
03:08:18 good news our brother Josh who just left
03:08:21 the military finally got his first
03:08:22 civilian style job so he starts in about
03:08:26 a week okay that’s good to hear yeah
03:08:30 uh oh here let me pause recording real
03:08:33 quick sorry