Scripture Study 2023-07-02

Summary:

00:00:00 LDS church only has around 10% of the JST
00:00:54 shows JST that were not in the manuscripts and sources were Snufferites don’t do that
00:04:58 I have a bias against Brigham Young
00:05:26 JST clarifies not casting pearls before swine
00:08:02 Alma brings out not to share mysteries
00:10:05 YHWH will give things hard to understand to the wicked
00:11:47 Understand the scriptures with a Hebraic mindset
00:12:35 People seek things hard to understand
00:15:07 Being a parent helps us understand God
00:16:57 Strong delusions when you don’t value YHWH’s word
00:18:38 Truth is Yeshua and Torah
00:19:39 Need to go to the written text beacuse our memories are faulty
00:21:37 We need a Hebrew mindset
00:22:10 King Benjamin teaches his sons to see the deeper meaning of the scriptures
00:23:07 Nephi did not teach the evil ways of the Jews
00:24:26 He’s teaching them symbolism
00:26:08 Donkey prophecy is in Genesis
00:26:58 Need Hebraic mindset
00:28:10 Charity in Hebrew means keep the commandments
00:28:52 Gentiles will mock
00:29:06 Performances and Ordiances are key words for what was done away with
00:31:12 Statutes and Judgments are key words for Torah
00:33:27 Sometimes the printer looked at the KJV Bible instead of the manuscripts
00:36:12 Keywords tell us what is being talked about
00:36:49 In the D&C YHWH states keep the law in the scriptures
00:40:24 The pearls are the mysteries
00:43:05 Mighty and Strong One in Nephi building a ship
00:50:14 Nephi knew the mysteries and put them in the record for people to find them
00:51:28 Noah’s ark points to Torah
00:52:46 Mighty and Strong One in Nephi building a ship
01:10:29 Paul it’s blasphemous to call yourself the suffering servant
01:11:28 Mighty and Strong One will become strong in the day YHWH tells him to do his job
01:13:50 Mighty and Strong One will convince people of the truth
01:15:58 Nephi of 3 Nephi is a Mighty and Strong One
01:16:55 The wicked could not disbelieve what Nephi said
01:20:04 Real priesthood holders can perform miracles in front of none-believers
01:21:23 Incredible foreshadowing of what is to come
01:22:02 YHWH’s leaders share what they have been taught
01:23:03 Mighty and Strong One in Nephi building a ship
01:31:21 Believers will be mocked
01:35:33 Acts 15 go to church on sabbath
01:35:59 Mighty and Strong One in Nephi building a ship
01:36:40 YHWH catches Zion into the wilderness
01:38:21 Man Child is Yeshua
01:39:42 Church fled into the wilderness
01:41:22 YHWH prevails
01:43:06 Satan temps you to sin and then uses that against you
01:43:21 Believers love YHWH more than their lives
01:44:35 Flood is armies of Rome
01:45:18 People who faught against Moses were swallowed up in the earth
01:45:39 Satan will be fighting against those who keep Torah
01:46:03 Zion will be preserved in the wilderness
01:47:06 Elisha was the Mighty and Strong One of his day, there is a wave of righteousness coming
01:48:45 People don’t know where to look, YHWH brought me to the written Torah
01:50:01 LDS culture is like the talmud, Brigham Young learned from Jesuits
01:51:09 Don’t share the false traditions including the signs
01:52:56 Teachers are held to a higher standard
01:54:14 Times of the Gentiles
01:57:13 Mighty and Strong One in Nephi building a ship
02:01:41 Celestial law points to Torah and sanctification
02:05:50 looking at the word statute
02:08:50 Torah is how YHWH wants us to love Him and others
02:11:31 We are under condemnation for not keeping YHWH’s Torah
02:12:33 Yeshua taught Torah not brand new commandments
02:15:01 YHWH’s ways don’t change
02:20:09 Law of Moses and Circumcision were punishments
02:20:47 Punishments don’t have to be Eternal
02:21:31 YHWH’s ways don’t change
02:22:15 Alma commands rebaptism
02:22:26 Righteousness vs Priestcraft
02:24:01 YHWH’s ways don’t change
02:26:00 Check the scriptures as the Bereans did
02:26:43 Book of the Nazarene has problems
02:27:49 Test the Apocrypha to the established word of YHWH
02:29:04 Daniel’s abomination of desolation is in the Maccabees
02:29:54 Be careful while looking at things other than scriptures
02:30:44 BoM as we have it today is not perfect because the printer did not always stick to the manuscript
02:32:09 If you read correct text in the wrong mindset you’ll get the wrong meaning
02:33:15 Ezekiel 13 about false prophets along with D&C 101
02:47:58 Ezekiel 14 the people did not love the truth
02:53:42 Repent of all your sins not only your pet sin
02:54:10 Don’t have idols in your heart
02:56:42 Don’t rely upon a prophet to much
02:57:02 Ezekiel 15:10 Same reward as the false prophet you follow
03:02:35 God wants a people to be like Him, Torah teaches us to do that
03:05:05 Not everything people claimed JS said is authentic
03:05:57 JS only faught against polygamy
03:06:12 JS last dream shows people are going to change his words
03:06:38 Be a Berean / Retzean, Acts 17
03:09:13 They don’t want to keep the everlasting law
03:10:11 Yeshua was not always nice
03:11:33 Whipping is a punishment in Torah
03:13:39 4th of July is around the same time of Shavuot / Pentecost and both about keeping law
03:17:02 Sabbath always on the same day of the moon and week on YHWH’s calendar
03:17:40 Gregorigan calendar has changed a lot
03:21:08 The day starts at sunrise
03:22:20 Most people don’t really believe JS
03:23:13 JST Genesis 17 teaches children should be baptized at 8
03:27:08 Jacob was tricked into polygamy
03:29:26 False prophets try to hide their faults
03:31:06 Jacob was deceived but bears some fault
03:31:39 Isaac did not pracitce polygamy, nor did Moses
03:32:23 Abraham repented of polygamy
03:33:03 Burn things of Satan

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Notes:

D&C (LDS 76:50-70) (RLDS 76) (1835 91) (1844 92)
AA 50 And again we bear record—for we saw and heard,
AB and this is the testimony of the gospel of Christ [the Messiah]
AC concerning them who shall come forth in the resurrection of the just—
-BA 51 They are they who received the testimony of Jesus [Yeshua],
-B-B and believed on His name [character]
-B–C and were baptized after the manner of His burial,
-B—D being buried in the water in His name,
-B—-E and this according to the commandment [Torah] which He has given—
-B—-E 52 That by keeping the commandments [Torah]
-B—D they might be washed and cleansed from all their sins,
-B–C and receive the [baptism of the] Holy Spirit [sanctification]
-B-B by the laying [doing] on of the hands [works] of Him
-BA who is ordained and sealed unto this power;
–CA 53 And who overcome by faith,
–CB and are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise,
–CC which the Father sheds forth upon all those who are just and true.
—DA 54 They are they who are the church of the Firstborn.
—DB 55 They are they into whose hands the Father has given all things—
—-EA 56 They are they who are priests and kings,
—-EB who have received of His fulness,
—-EC and of His glory;
—–DA 57 And are priests of the Most High,
—–D-B after the order of Melchizedek,
—–D-B which was after the order of Enoch,
—–DA which was after the order of the Only Begotten Son.
—–DA Z 58 Wherefore, as it is written,
—–DB they are gods [judges],
—–DC even the sons [followers] of God [Elohim]—
—-EA 59 Wherefore, all things are theirs,
—-E-B whether life or death,
—-E–C or things present,
—-E-B or things to come,
—-EAA all are theirs and they are Christ’s [Messiah’s],
—-EAB and Christ [the Messiah] is God’s [Elohim’s].
—D60 And they shall overcome all things.
–CA 61 Wherefore, let no man glory in man,
–CB but rather let him glory in God [Elohim],
–CC who shall subdue all enemies under his feet.
-BAA 62 These shall dwell in the presence of God [Elohim]
-BAB and His Christ [Messiah] forever and ever.
-B-BA 63 These are they whom He shall bring with Him,
-B-BB when He shall come in the clouds [judgement] of heaven to reign on the earth over His people.
-B–CA 64 These are they who shall have part in the first resurrection.
-B–CB 65 These are they who shall come forth in the resurrection of the just.
-B–CC 66 These are they who are come unto Mount Zion,
-B—DA and unto the city of the living God [Elohim],
-B—DB the heavenly place,
-B—DC the holiest of all.
-B–CA 67 These are they who have come to an innumerable company of angels,
-B–CB to the general assembly and church of Enoch,
-B–CC and of the Firstborn.
-B-BA 68 These are they whose names are written in heaven,
-B-BB where God [Elohim] and Christ [Messiah] are the judge of all.
-BAA 69 These are they who are just men made perfect through Jesus [Yeshua]
-BA-B the mediator of the new [renewed] covenant,
-BAA who wrought out this perfect atonement through the shedding of His own blood [life].
AA 70 These are they whose bodies are celestial,
A-B whose glory is that of the sun,
A–C even the glory of God [Elohim],
A–C the highest of all,
A-B whose glory the sun of the firmament
AA is written of as being typical.

Transcript:

00:00:02 so
00:00:03 um I I guess I’m going to share a couple
00:00:05 things but the first thing I want to
00:00:07 share is actually somewhat calling out
00:00:10 myself
00:00:11 so I
00:00:13 I bought this a little while ago and
00:00:16 I’ve been reading through it
00:00:18 um and so you know it’s the Bible
00:00:20 corrected by Joseph Smith and
00:00:24 um
00:00:24 it has all the jsts in it
00:00:29 which just FYI the LDS church before
00:00:32 their 2013 edition they only had about
00:00:35 10 of it where in their 2013 edition of
00:00:39 the scriptures they have even less of
00:00:41 that now I don’t know what percent and
00:00:44 the 10 is an estimate I don’t know I’m
00:00:47 going off of what some other people said
00:00:48 on that but anyways but
00:00:51 um also one thing the one reason I
00:00:54 wanted this this shows jst’s
00:00:57 or Joseph Smith’s Corrections that were
00:01:00 not in the Bible that were in other
00:01:02 sections and so or other places well for
00:01:06 example lectures on faith is one place
00:01:08 in some other places so in some of the
00:01:10 footnotes
00:01:12 like right here
00:01:13 uh you probably can’t see it but that
00:01:16 footnote right there showing that where
00:01:18 that JS that
00:01:20 quote GST is coming from okay because it
00:01:23 wasn’t the GST manuscripts but it’s
00:01:25 taught in some other Joseph Smith’s
00:01:27 lectures and whatnot now the reason I
00:01:30 find that interesting is because
00:01:33 the snufferites claim they did that
00:01:35 themselves oh uh recently but this book
00:01:39 was initially published in
00:01:45 uh I don’t know if you can see that but
00:01:47 nope oh no well it says 1997.
00:01:51 okay that was before this that was was
00:01:55 that that was free stuff right yeah that
00:01:58 well that’s before the snuff right group
00:02:01 was claiming that they were doing that
00:02:03 research themselves right right the
00:02:05 scripture committee so I actually do
00:02:09 wonder I mean I wasn’t part of it okay
00:02:10 but I do wonder if they use this for
00:02:13 their research
00:02:16 they might have what is the what is the
00:02:19 name of that book uh it’s the Bible
00:02:22 corrected by Joseph Smith
00:02:26 okay got it uh there’s used ones on
00:02:31 Amazon I I got mine and they’ll ship it
00:02:34 to you I’ll give you the the name
00:02:38 later and I so even the paper one on
00:02:42 Amazon was like 30 bucks I got this for
00:02:45 10.
00:02:47 um from
00:02:48 Benchmark books okay there’s there
00:02:51 Benchmark is good I can give you the the
00:02:54 info I’ll put it in the notes and I’ll
00:02:56 send it to you later okay so they’re
00:02:58 they’re better they’re better
00:03:01 things from Benchmark before Oh you have
00:03:04 okay I I like I try to buy from them
00:03:06 first but it’s been a long time
00:03:08 and then if I can’t get it from them I
00:03:10 get it other places because I I like to
00:03:12 support them more for one they’re they I
00:03:16 mean their little restoration
00:03:18 Fringe bookstore I mean I mean I I do
00:03:21 understand they them they them those are
00:03:23 brigganites but they’re more open for
00:03:25 having these types of things and I’d
00:03:27 rather support them in Amazon
00:03:29 that’s where I think that’s where we got
00:03:31 our um
00:03:42 visions and restoration visions and
00:03:45 and
00:03:48 um
00:03:50 oh of the
00:03:53 yeah oh my goodness this is bad
00:03:57 yeah I I I don’t know Revelations
00:04:01 yes of the
00:04:04 um yeah whatever yeah I’m perfect
00:04:08 yeah well that’s where I got this book
00:04:10 too that we went over last week a little
00:04:12 bit on a section and I got it from them
00:04:14 half off
00:04:15 oh nice Amazon it’s a hundred bucks I
00:04:18 got them from them for 50. it’s nice
00:04:22 they’re a good resource
00:04:24 Benchmark books yeah I I appreciate that
00:04:28 many ways all right Joseph Smith what
00:04:30 what is that oh uh Joseph Smith’s new
00:04:34 translation of the Bible original
00:04:36 manuscripts
00:04:38 so it’s another one just like the one I
00:04:40 have I just showed but this one has
00:04:42 pictures of the manuscripts
00:04:44 um
00:04:45 it’s not as easy to study as the other
00:04:48 one right I like this one because it’s
00:04:50 got the pictures okay right right so and
00:04:54 plus it kind of disses on Brigham Young
00:04:55 I like that too
00:04:58 I I I will be honest I have a bias
00:05:01 against bringing young but I think it is
00:05:03 very well
00:05:05 substantiated with my research about him
00:05:07 so but anyways yeah well
00:05:10 I think it’s okay lots of people here
00:05:12 agree with you yeah I think I was gonna
00:05:14 say I was going to say Brigham was a I
00:05:18 think it’s okay to have a bias against a
00:05:20 scumbag yeah oh yeah yes it is uh but
00:05:23 it’s not unsubs there’s a lot of
00:05:26 resources but anyways so let me um just
00:05:29 call myself out here so I had the the
00:05:32 phrase of don’t cast your pros and
00:05:34 Pearls among this wine I
00:05:38 I didn’t like how people used it and I
00:05:40 think some of it might have been because
00:05:41 they use it too much because they’ll
00:05:44 just say I think a lot of people just
00:05:46 use it even still when they don’t know
00:05:48 how to defend their position from the
00:05:50 scripture so let’s say that so they
00:05:52 don’t have to
00:05:54 um because I even recently saw someone
00:05:56 saying that on you know bringing out
00:05:59 uh our awful situation and calling
00:06:02 repentance they were like uh don’t cast
00:06:04 your Pros among the swine I’m like
00:06:06 that’s not a pearl right that’s
00:06:07 something that everybody that’s a that’s
00:06:09 a general statement yeah that’s
00:06:11 pretending if it’s pertaining to uh most
00:06:14 of things that are pertaining to
00:06:17 uh salvation salvation and
00:06:20 sanctification are general knowledge
00:06:23 things things that are meant to be for
00:06:24 general knowledge Amen brother that’s
00:06:27 not something that is a pearl uh pearls
00:06:30 are Mysteries and the our awful
00:06:33 situation and being called to repentance
00:06:36 is not a mystery right but anyways so
00:06:40 even though I am repenting on how this
00:06:43 term should be used I do still think
00:06:45 some people use it incorrectly okay but
00:06:48 anyways so
00:06:51 um this is the jst Matthew
00:06:54 um or you know anyways uh Sermon on the
00:06:57 Mount uh I just want to read this verse
00:07:01 10 6 yeah verse 10 6 yes
00:07:05 and the Mysteries of the Kingdom you
00:07:08 shall keep within yourselves
00:07:11 foreign just real quick I just want to
00:07:14 bring out it’s the Mysteries right not
00:07:16 not the basics right right well and and
00:07:20 well I’ll finish reading first uh for it
00:07:23 is not meat to give that which is holy
00:07:26 on to the dogs
00:07:28 neither casty or pearls onto swine
00:07:31 unless they trample them under their
00:07:34 feet
00:07:36 so you know going along with this right
00:07:40 we all learn
00:07:41 and we all learn differently
00:07:43 and we all learn line upon lime precept
00:07:46 upon precept or at least that’s how
00:07:48 we’re supposed to learn
00:07:49 right and
00:07:52 you know the mysteries of the Kingdom
00:07:54 you shall keep within yourselves well
00:07:56 that actually goes right along the lines
00:07:59 right along line with um
00:08:02 Alma mm-hmm we can Sidetrack on that a
00:08:07 little bit if we want
00:08:08 um Alma 12 real quick since you’re
00:08:11 bringing it up yeah and I’ll bring it
00:08:15 I’ll be a little biased
00:08:17 [Music]
00:08:18 and bring it up from a post that I I
00:08:21 wrote
00:08:24 uh mainly just to bring out the
00:08:26 structure
00:08:28 um the chiastic structure yeah yeah go
00:08:31 ahead
00:08:33 okay
00:08:34 Alma 12. yeah I believe that’s the one
00:08:37 you want yes this is the one that I want
00:08:39 therefore he that will harden his heart
00:08:41 the same receive at the Lesser portion
00:08:43 of the word that he and he that will not
00:08:45 Harden his heart is given to him is
00:08:46 given the greater portion of the word
00:08:48 until it is given unto him to know the
00:08:50 mysteries of Elohim until they know them
00:08:52 in full then pardon their hearts to them
00:08:55 is given the Lesser portion of the word
00:08:56 until they know nothing concerning his
00:08:58 Mysteries and then they are taken
00:08:59 captive by the devil and led by his will
00:09:01 down to destruction now this is what is
00:09:03 meant by the chains of hell now the
00:09:06 thing is
00:09:08 is the Mysteries God gives thank you the
00:09:13 Mysteries God gives to those who will
00:09:15 not Harden their hearts against the law
00:09:17 right right and the Mysteries that he
00:09:20 gives are for them are for them
00:09:24 yes
00:09:25 right and the Mysteries they don’t know
00:09:28 about it’s not the general word right
00:09:31 right
00:09:32 and or the part that they gives to
00:09:34 everybody right yeah the last part is
00:09:38 still known right that’s out there
00:09:40 that’s out there already
00:09:42 right but they they but those to those
00:09:46 who Harden their hearts against what is
00:09:48 given to everyone they receive more
00:09:52 basically the light is taken from them
00:09:55 right might just take them from them but
00:09:57 not only is the light taken from them
00:09:58 they take themselves away from the light
00:10:01 right this is true this is true oh to be
00:10:04 honest
00:10:05 um right but because
00:10:08 uh the second Nephi 25
00:10:14 um let’s see I believe it’s in there uh
00:10:16 Nephi brings out how Yahweh gives the
00:10:20 people Mysteries or things that they
00:10:24 is that they cannot understand because
00:10:26 they want them because they want
00:10:28 something that they don’t understand
00:10:29 right right
00:10:32 so I think that goes along with that
00:10:35 um
00:10:36 I believe yeah I believe that second E5
00:10:38 25
00:10:43 um and
00:10:45 go ahead
00:10:47 let’s see my soul to life and the words
00:10:49 of Isaiah
00:10:50 for I came out of Jerusalem and mine
00:10:53 eyes have beheld the things of the Jews
00:10:55 and I know the Jews do understand the
00:10:57 things of the prophets and there is none
00:10:58 that understand the things okay that’s
00:11:01 not the one I’m thinking of go down a
00:11:03 little bit let’s go down
00:11:05 foreign
00:11:07 misunderstand
00:11:15 you cannot okay so maybe understand’s
00:11:18 not the right word to search for
00:11:20 um
00:11:21 yeah
00:11:24 Maybe
00:11:26 oh okay I’m pretty sure it’s this
00:11:28 chapter okay let’s pause for a minute
00:11:31 while we try to find the verse
00:11:35 so I I tried to skim the verse and we
00:11:39 all actually did try to schema and we
00:11:41 couldn’t find the one I was thinking of
00:11:43 I know it’s somewhere but we don’t want
00:11:45 to spend too much time on it but while
00:11:47 we’re looking Ben saw five and you want
00:11:49 to just talk about five real quick so it
00:11:52 says here yeah my soul delighteth in the
00:11:54 words of Isaiah pray it came out of
00:11:55 Jerusalem and mine eyes have beheld the
00:11:57 things of the Jews and I do know the
00:11:59 Jews do understand the things of the
00:12:02 prophets and there is none other people
00:12:04 that understand the things which are
00:12:05 spoken unto the Jews like unto them
00:12:08 the save it be that they are taught
00:12:10 after the manner of the things of the
00:12:12 Jews so this is a this is a this is a
00:12:16 rather roundabout way of saying that the
00:12:19 best way to understand
00:12:21 uh hebraic literature is to approach it
00:12:24 from a hyperact mindset in the Bible
00:12:26 that we have received is hebraic
00:12:29 literature right and in fact
00:12:32 guys yeah I think I may have found that
00:12:35 I think I may have found the verse I
00:12:36 think it’s Jacob 4 14. oh okay
00:12:40 and boy were we in the wrong place yeah
00:12:42 I was way off I was like
00:12:44 only a whole book this is why we go back
00:12:49 to the text right yeah yeah oh actually
00:12:52 it does kind of look like it so do you
00:12:54 want to read it Andrew or do you want me
00:12:56 sure okay sure but behold the Jews were
00:12:59 a stiff-necked people and they despised
00:13:02 the words of plainness and killed the
00:13:04 prophet I’m just gonna interject a
00:13:07 little plainness is a key word for Torah
00:13:10 yep and I bring that out in my all
00:13:12 things you should do Post it’s the
00:13:13 reason that we know that the Jews
00:13:15 despise Torah is because they invented
00:13:17 their own yeah the oral Torah AKA false
00:13:20 traditions of men right
00:13:24 it’s no big deal uh you know they just
00:13:27 killed the prophets well but the point
00:13:30 is the we when you were talking about
00:13:32 playing this we’re talking about Aura
00:13:34 the Lord so right yes yes and I’m just
00:13:37 saying my officers
00:13:40 lays out the foundation for that it it
00:13:43 makes it plain
00:13:45 anyways pun intended good one Steve
00:13:49 anyways okay go ahead sorry about that
00:13:51 okay all right so kill the profits and
00:13:55 start for things that they could not
00:13:57 understand
00:13:59 wherefore because of their blindness
00:14:01 which blindness came by looking Beyond
00:14:03 The Mark they must need to fall for God
00:14:06 hath taken away his plainness from them
00:14:10 and delivered unto them many things
00:14:13 which they cannot understand because
00:14:15 they desire it and that would that would
00:14:17 that he’s delivered them over to their
00:14:19 second Torah all right and because they
00:14:22 desire to God hath done it so they they
00:14:24 wanted something they couldn’t
00:14:25 understand and he gave them what they
00:14:27 wanted right
00:14:37 isn’t that kind of funny you’re gonna
00:14:39 get out of this life what you want yeah
00:14:41 yeah yeah
00:14:42 wait a minute I think that’s in a lot of
00:14:45 places in in the scriptures right
00:14:47 hey you know
00:14:50 what it states thank you for what you
00:14:53 ask for
00:14:54 exactly careful what you asked for
00:14:57 what it states is that you will reap
00:14:59 what you sow yes yes that is what it
00:15:02 states well that’s what you guys are
00:15:05 saying go ahead
00:15:07 at one point in my life
00:15:10 I asked God how I was doing
00:15:14 my um
00:15:16 wanted to know how how I was doing as a
00:15:18 mom how I was doing you know in his
00:15:20 opinion how was I doing
00:15:23 and he sent me another pregnancy
00:15:29 well
00:15:32 that’s an answer that’s an answer
00:15:36 yeah it’s a vague answer though
00:15:40 but anyways yeah I I do I do think that
00:15:43 I do think that’s interesting
00:15:45 um but yeah but this is
00:15:48 that pregnancy became Noah
00:15:51 okay
00:15:53 [Music]
00:15:55 well I would I would say that um
00:16:00 raise in the action the raising
00:16:04 raising my two sons
00:16:07 with their uh
00:16:10 with their set of with their set of
00:16:13 delays and circumstances
00:16:17 has really brought me a lot of
00:16:20 understanding
00:16:22 has really brought me a lot of
00:16:23 understanding for God
00:16:25 [Music]
00:16:27 and um I can see that the and the issues
00:16:31 that he has in trying to reach out to
00:16:32 each of us
00:16:34 yeah
00:16:35 in this world where our senses are
00:16:37 overwhelmed and it’s like we’re in a uh
00:16:39 it’s like our brains are in a mushroom
00:16:41 cloud of sensory stimulation
00:16:44 yeah
00:16:45 um
00:16:48 yeah we’re pretty slow compared to God
00:16:50 right
00:16:51 exactly exactly and this and the thing
00:16:56 is the whole thing was set up for that
00:16:57 but I do like this and that it talks
00:17:00 about
00:17:03 if you’re not going to Value the word
00:17:05 and there’s another there’s second
00:17:07 Thessalonians also has a scripture about
00:17:09 this because they valued not the truth I
00:17:12 will send them strong delusion
00:17:15 um I remember that one now that you
00:17:16 mentioned it uh so in other words I will
00:17:18 answer unto them
00:17:21 the uh remember which chapter in your
00:17:23 own Arts I believe it’s I think it’s
00:17:26 chapter two
00:17:28 or five on those two no there’s only
00:17:32 three chapters
00:17:34 okay so you know what that’s okay you
00:17:38 found the the Jacob four one oh well we
00:17:41 were we were rolling off the top okay
00:17:44 here it is in verse in in verse uh I’m
00:17:48 gonna start it in verse seven okay for
00:17:53 the mystery of iniquity does already
00:17:55 work only he who let us will let until
00:17:58 he be taken out of the way and then
00:18:01 shall that Wicked be and then shall that
00:18:03 Wicked one be revealed whom the Lord
00:18:05 shall consume with the spirit of his
00:18:07 mouth and shall destroy what the
00:18:09 brightness of his coming even whose
00:18:12 coming is after the working of Satan
00:18:13 with all power and signs and lying
00:18:15 wonders and with all deceivableness of
00:18:17 unrighteousness in them that perish
00:18:19 because they received not the love of
00:18:21 the truth that they might be saved and
00:18:23 for this cause God will send them strong
00:18:25 delusion that they should believe a lie
00:18:28 you see all of these verses come
00:18:31 together and explain each other that
00:18:34 they all might be damned who believed
00:18:36 not the truth
00:18:38 righteousness truth has two ultimate
00:18:41 meanings Yeshua and Torah
00:18:44 because truth is light and light is
00:18:47 Torah
00:18:48 and light and bright and light is also
00:18:51 and light is also the Messiah right and
00:18:54 that’s why I’m saying truth there’s two
00:18:55 ultimate things Yeshua
00:18:58 and Torah
00:18:59 right and we can show that prescriptors
00:19:01 through you know connecting truth to
00:19:03 light and light is the Messiah and light
00:19:05 is Torah it’s both and that’s actually
00:19:08 in Doctrine and Covenants section 88.
00:19:12 right and and it’s in the favorites in
00:19:15 other places also yeah my home business
00:19:18 of all time my own base well I I just I
00:19:22 don’t want to just keep sidetracked
00:19:24 because we need to go back to AST but I
00:19:25 want to finish these Other Side Tracks
00:19:27 uh so let’s see if we can unroll them
00:19:30 back uh would you stop side tracking my
00:19:33 side track yeah
00:19:36 anyways but let me go back to the very
00:19:39 first sidetracks so wait a minute on
00:19:43 Jacob four with Andrew with his good
00:19:46 memory remembered where it is I I do
00:19:48 want to make a quick point that this is
00:19:50 why we need to go back to the written
00:19:52 text because our memories are faulty
00:19:55 because most of us here thought was
00:19:57 thinking second Nephi 25 maybe it’s
00:20:00 because I misled everybody on that one
00:20:01 but Stephen yeah
00:20:04 just so you’re aware I I did have a
00:20:07 little help I looked it up in the
00:20:08 topical guide well that’s fine
00:20:10 [Laughter]
00:20:17 still good for something yeah like there
00:20:21 still is useful information there and we
00:20:24 are all humbled yeah yeah that’s fine
00:20:35 unfortunately I do too all right well
00:20:38 thank you for coming
00:20:39 I hope you guys I hope you guys got
00:20:42 something out of our little John Johnson
00:20:43 to Sidetrack land yeah yeah I did I
00:20:47 enjoyed it
00:20:48 and I’m gonna look at those I’m gonna
00:20:50 I’m gonna look into buying those those
00:20:53 two books that you showed us this
00:20:54 evening Gazette oh okay if you only can
00:20:58 pick one do this one for one it’s
00:21:00 cheaper and it’s it’s more the essence
00:21:04 of it
00:21:05 where the other one is more scholarly
00:21:07 and so you can go take it back to the to
00:21:10 the actual photograph it if anything
00:21:13 this one’s cheaper okay got it what’s
00:21:16 that one called again
00:21:17 uh the Bible corrected by Joseph Smith
00:21:19 love you Sue I used to all right take it
00:21:23 easy guys
00:21:28 all right so and and working back on our
00:21:32 uh unwinding archaism that we’ve built
00:21:35 up anyways
00:21:37 um did you want to say any more on five
00:21:41 um okay
00:21:42 um basically the idea is that we need to
00:21:47 cultivate in ourselves if we are truly
00:21:50 to understand any of the scriptures
00:21:53 a hebraic mindset
00:21:55 for we cannot understand the we cannot
00:21:58 understand the things of the Prophet the
00:21:59 writings of the prophets without being
00:22:02 taught and without without being taught
00:22:04 or learning or or learning something
00:22:08 concerning the manner of the Jews right
00:22:10 so to to support that
00:22:16 show when you’re going to Peter
00:22:20 no he’s going to Muslim okay so I mean
00:22:24 I’m gonna
00:22:25 I’m gonna do two things but the first
00:22:27 one mosiah this is my favorite one for
00:22:30 this but so Messiah had children right
00:22:33 he taught them Hebrew they they talked
00:22:36 Hebrew but
00:22:39 this is an interesting little verse here
00:22:41 and it came to pass that he had three
00:22:43 sons and he called their names Messiah
00:22:45 Hebron or Hillary and Laura hillurum
00:22:49 yeah and Helaman uh and he caused it
00:22:52 they should be taught in the language of
00:22:54 his fathers thereby they may be men of
00:22:57 understanding they might know concerning
00:22:58 the prophecies which have been spoken by
00:23:00 the mouths of their fathers which are
00:23:02 delivered
00:23:03 them by the hand of Yahweh okay okay if
00:23:07 oh go ahead I just have a thought
00:23:10 pertaining back to Second Nephi 25 1
00:23:13 where he said that he didn’t teach his
00:23:15 people the language the ways of the Jews
00:23:19 um I would say that’s the Wicked Ways
00:23:21 yeah you wouldn’t you you don’t you
00:23:23 don’t include the language in that
00:23:25 no uh because they’re this is me okay
00:23:29 and we would have to go look at this I
00:23:31 do not kiss
00:23:33 Nephi totem Torah right yes and then he
00:23:38 would also have expounded it to them so
00:23:41 he would have taught them the language
00:23:43 of the prophets
00:23:45 yeah right and so the the thing that
00:23:48 he’s talking about here is the false
00:23:50 traditions in my eyes okay
00:23:52 okay okay which were there which were
00:23:54 present even when they were let out
00:23:56 right which goes a lot back to uh
00:23:59 Jacob’s
00:24:01 was it 14 I think it was but anyways
00:24:03 yeah
00:24:05 um so I think that’s what the second e51
00:24:07 is referring to is the vocabulations
00:24:09 okay okay but back then because
00:24:13 Nephi is going to teach them the things
00:24:15 of Yahweh right yeah
00:24:17 it’s just he’s not going to teach them
00:24:19 the false traditions of men okay right
00:24:21 but yeah that’s true now we have to go
00:24:24 look up here
00:24:26 um but if you go look at the context of
00:24:28 what’s going on here this is why they’re
00:24:31 more adult that this is going on here so
00:24:36 um
00:24:37 did his kids not know how to talk until
00:24:39 they became adults I don’t think so that
00:24:42 that’s a ludicrous thought I mean if you
00:24:45 really believe that you’d be crazy and
00:24:48 dumb sorry so the gift of tongues
00:24:53 okay so my two children uh started
00:24:57 speaking a little later in life than
00:25:00 normal but that’s because they’re
00:25:02 learning two languages and that’s
00:25:03 actually normal for a multilingual house
00:25:06 here because they they learn English and
00:25:09 Spanish okay because my wife speaks
00:25:12 English and Spanish I know a little
00:25:15 Spanish
00:25:16 my in my uh my children started learning
00:25:19 and my children learn to speak later and
00:25:21 now now my youngest one I can’t get him
00:25:24 to shut up
00:25:25 okay anyway
00:25:28 uh but what’s going on in here he’s
00:25:31 talking about how he taught them the
00:25:33 language of his fathers as in the
00:25:36 prophets he’s
00:25:38 he’s teaching them the symbolism of the
00:25:41 scriptures which I occasionally bring
00:25:44 out in these recordings right yeah I
00:25:45 like that
00:25:47 um that’s what’s going on here and
00:25:50 what that made them to do is to
00:25:52 understand the prophecies they could see
00:25:54 the prophecies in the scriptures because
00:25:56 they understood the symbolisms behind
00:25:59 the works they’d learned to think he was
00:26:02 teaching them to think like Hebrews when
00:26:04 they became men right uh just example
00:26:08 how I brought out with uh
00:26:11 um like Abraham
00:26:13 and writing the donkey is a prophecy
00:26:15 that that zeroic zero zero ah
00:26:21 I know I’m having a hard time with my
00:26:23 words right now
00:26:24 um
00:26:26 but anyways
00:26:28 um that’s a prophecy that someone else
00:26:31 brings out as specifically as a prophecy
00:26:33 but if you go look at the in Genesis it
00:26:37 was right there before
00:26:39 right as a story I think it’s only in
00:26:42 Torah or in the into Tanakh the Old
00:26:45 Testament once but it’s there at least
00:26:47 twice when Abraham wrote yeah and so
00:26:52 yeah so it’s uh two if I remember
00:26:55 correctly yeah again the old again the
00:26:58 Hebrew form of uh
00:27:01 historical precedent for prophetic
00:27:04 metaphor right Torah is prophetic okay
00:27:09 uh which I bring out in all things you
00:27:11 should do post and I I show that from
00:27:13 connection making Albert algebraic
00:27:17 connections a equals B so and b equals c
00:27:21 so a equals c right you know things of
00:27:23 that logic and so I just want to bring
00:27:25 that out with supporting the huberic
00:27:28 if you want to understand a hubric text
00:27:32 you have to come up with a rubric
00:27:34 mindset if you come to a hebraic text
00:27:38 with a Hellenistic slacks Greek
00:27:41 mindset you will not understand it in
00:27:43 fact the other thing I want to say is
00:27:46 ether 12
00:27:49 um
00:27:50 the Gentiles
00:27:53 most of them
00:27:55 are not gonna
00:28:03 that if the Gentiles have not charity
00:28:05 because
00:28:07 and it’s interesting so I just want to
00:28:08 say on charity
00:28:10 charity the Hebrew word behind charity
00:28:13 means keep the Commandments okay yes
00:28:19 so uh you can go finish if you want now
00:28:23 means just action yes which just actions
00:28:28 are defined by Torah right exactly
00:28:31 exactly yeah yeah
00:28:37 more application but it’s the same thing
00:28:39 right yeah
00:28:41 basically means just action adjustment
00:28:44 right which is defined by Torah exactly
00:28:47 so yeah
00:28:49 okay so where were we here uh second
00:28:52 Nephi
00:28:53 uh we were in second Nephi 25. oh okay
00:28:57 so we want to go yeah so anyways 35 25
00:29:00 it talks about how the the Gentiles Will
00:29:03 Mock because they don’t understand
00:29:04 Hebrew things right but anyway
00:29:06 so let’s go back to the second
00:29:09 we’ve covered live okay
00:29:12 so one other thing that we were kind of
00:29:15 talking about that we should probably
00:29:17 bring out is 30.
00:29:21 um so
00:29:22 ah
00:29:24 performance and ordinances are a key
00:29:27 word here and that’s law of Moses so and
00:29:30 let me just read it I’m probably not
00:29:32 doing this the best because this is all
00:29:35 live right but anyways and in so much
00:29:37 that as it is be expedient you must keep
00:29:41 the performance as an ordinance of
00:29:43 Elohim until the law shall be fulfilled
00:29:46 done away with which was given unto
00:29:48 Moses because
00:29:51 of the wickedness and the Heart hardness
00:29:54 of the hearts of the children of Israel
00:29:56 so I kind of see the days in the days of
00:29:59 their first provocation right right so
00:30:02 Hebrews chapter three right and then
00:30:04 that also goes along with uh mosiah 13
00:30:08 and Galatians 3 and a whole bunch of
00:30:12 other places okay but the thing that I’m
00:30:14 going to bring out here for those who
00:30:15 are trying to understand better the two
00:30:17 key words to help you know it’s law of
00:30:19 Moses versus Torah is performances and
00:30:22 ordinances which were a daily
00:30:25 thing that had to be done of the two
00:30:28 daily Lambs right between the mornings
00:30:32 and between the evenings so the two key
00:30:35 words in this case are performance and
00:30:37 ordinances and two key words for Torah
00:30:40 is
00:30:42 Commandments statutes and judgments or
00:30:46 Commandments but session judgments are
00:30:48 probably the better ones because that
00:30:50 generally go to Times not actually and
00:30:52 knowing that statutes and judgments
00:30:55 means Torah whereas performances and
00:30:57 ordinances means uh law of poses then
00:31:01 what you have then
00:31:04 is it a much clearer understanding of
00:31:07 what Jesus Christ is telling the people
00:31:09 in third Nephi
00:31:12 um nine so we can go Sidetrack on that
00:31:15 because well not not I’m not interested
00:31:17 in nine I’m interested in the one where
00:31:18 he’s quoting Malachi 20 I think it’s 26.
00:31:21 oh that one that we did okay yeah
00:31:24 um and then we’ll go from there to
00:31:27 Doctrine and Covenants section 59.
00:31:30 Okay so
00:31:34 I think it’s 26. we did that one
00:31:36 recently but some chapters have a harder
00:31:38 time remembering right right oh that’s
00:31:42 not 265.
00:31:44 that’s too long for there we go so yes
00:31:48 so here it is uh where it says remember
00:31:55 ye the law of Moses my servant which I
00:31:57 commanded hit onto him in Horeb for all
00:31:59 Israel with the statutes and judgments
00:32:02 here he is so the better understanding
00:32:04 is is the law once again the law given
00:32:07 through Moses but this is Torah
00:32:10 right I was just talking about statutes
00:32:12 and judgments and these statutes and
00:32:15 judgments are directly connected with
00:32:17 the sending of Elijah the prophet before
00:32:19 the coming of the great and Dreadful day
00:32:20 of the Lord
00:32:22 and we talked about this one
00:32:24 I think it was two weeks ago I’ll put in
00:32:26 the links yep but we we looked at that
00:32:30 in the Tanakh and that word Behind law
00:32:34 the Hebrew word behind that is literally
00:32:37 yeah but you can get that from the
00:32:40 context even without going to the Hebrew
00:32:42 word statutes
00:32:45 so this so this is why and some you know
00:32:48 and sometimes which you know I’ve
00:32:52 wondered sometimes why
00:32:54 given the fact that there’s a different
00:32:57 um
00:32:58 that there’s a different format to this
00:33:01 to these very same verses
00:33:04 given in the Doctrine and Covenants I’ve
00:33:06 wondered at times why this version is
00:33:09 included here
00:33:11 and I’ve come to the conclusion that
00:33:14 this is why
00:33:15 to help us to give us to give us key
00:33:18 words to help us to understand which law
00:33:23 so I I think they’re yeah I I because
00:33:27 there there’s sometimes it’s because the
00:33:32 um and this could be a mixture in this
00:33:34 case that the
00:33:39 the printer
00:33:40 uh looked in his Bible because he
00:33:42 noticed
00:33:43 um back in Joseph Smith day people had
00:33:46 more Bible knowledge that they they do
00:33:47 today okay and so when the printer came
00:33:51 across things that he recognized
00:33:53 because the manuscripts that he was
00:33:55 given didn’t have punctuation in it that
00:33:58 made his job kind of hard and so he to
00:34:02 make his job easier I don’t blame him
00:34:04 okay
00:34:06 um he went and if anything this is
00:34:09 probably Joseph Smith’s fault because he
00:34:10 didn’t add punctuation into it of course
00:34:12 he was just translating and so maybe it
00:34:14 was more Oliver’s
00:34:16 fault for not adding punctuation in the
00:34:18 printer’s manuscript but anyways
00:34:20 I don’t blame the printer for this he
00:34:24 saw something he recognized so at times
00:34:26 when he saw something he recognized he
00:34:28 went to his Bible and just copied it
00:34:32 straight from there
00:34:33 to get the punctuation and sometimes
00:34:36 when there were some differences
00:34:38 which can be seen in the original
00:34:40 printable manuscripts
00:34:42 he didn’t do it exactly how the
00:34:44 manuscript that he was given he did it
00:34:46 how it was in the King James version of
00:34:47 the Bible because and that’s true and so
00:34:51 the reason and so the reason why this
00:34:53 would be allowed to stand
00:34:55 as opposed to being corrected
00:34:58 is because the Lord’s trying to teach a
00:35:01 different message through here than
00:35:02 through the version given in Doctrine
00:35:04 and Covenant section two
00:35:07 well
00:35:09 I think they’re related and I think yeah
00:35:11 part of the problem it’s slightly
00:35:14 different I think yes
00:35:16 but I think more is because
00:35:19 of the the printer he copied it from the
00:35:23 King James version yeah but but you know
00:35:25 if it was important to change I’m pretty
00:35:27 sure God would have changed it
00:35:29 well God would have inspired them to
00:35:31 change it
00:35:32 if it was important
00:35:35 um I can see your point there but I I
00:35:37 think
00:35:38 just like with losing the 116 he just
00:35:41 Pages he just let it go let it be but
00:35:43 anyways that’s my opinion
00:35:48 and it’s all good for us to have
00:35:50 different opinions yeah and this is just
00:35:53 where it’s good to put it out there and
00:35:54 people can think about it because people
00:35:56 can yeah people can decide which opinion
00:35:58 they like better anyways
00:36:02 um because that I understand that this
00:36:05 that one is a tricky issue um right
00:36:08 right so that’s yeah that’s uh that I’ve
00:36:12 I’ve pondered on that for I pondered on
00:36:14 that for a long time but then this with
00:36:16 this phrase right here statutes and
00:36:18 judgments
00:36:20 right here it’s a really important thing
00:36:24 it’s bigger than you think
00:36:27 oh it’s because that’s that’s the big
00:36:29 difference between Torah and law of
00:36:32 Moses because a lot of Moses’s
00:36:33 performance and ordinances Torah is
00:36:35 statues and judgments right yeah
00:36:38 but anyways Okay so
00:36:41 I think we’re done with that so maybe we
00:36:43 go back to the GST now
00:36:45 uh there was one more thing in
00:36:48 documentation did you want to do
00:36:49 something from the DNC then okay yeah it
00:36:52 was related to I think uh related to 525
00:36:56 right yeah it’s related and so we can
00:36:58 finish up the side track to 24. okay all
00:37:01 right so I was it 88 or 84 59 oh I was
00:37:06 way off
00:37:07 the recruiting covenants section 59
00:37:11 you’re in 95.
00:37:14 that’s 90. oh 15. I I transposed yeah
00:37:20 sometimes sorry keep me honest keep me
00:37:23 honest all right so I’m guessing these
00:37:26 are the ones that near the end if I’m
00:37:27 yes okay
00:37:31 have Zach read for a minute yeah Zach go
00:37:34 ahead and read this
00:37:37 yo tell much verses let’s start it’s
00:37:40 versus
00:37:41 um let’s see
00:37:44 uh
00:37:47 um
00:37:49 start over 21.
00:37:56 and go through 23.
00:38:02 and nothing does manifest God really
00:38:05 against or against none this is wrath
00:38:09 Kindle
00:38:10 Commandments
00:38:15 the oldest is according to the law and
00:38:18 the prophets report troubling you know
00:38:20 more concerning the thing this matter
00:38:23 I learned that he who does the works of
00:38:26 righteousness shall be receive his
00:38:27 reward in peace in this world and
00:38:30 eternal life in the world to come either
00:38:32 doeth the works of righteousness he who
00:38:33 hath charity he who is possessed of
00:38:35 Charity just works the works of
00:38:38 righteousness
00:38:39 no man
00:38:42 no nobody offends God except those who
00:38:45 do not confess his hand in all things
00:38:46 those who are ungrateful and those who
00:38:48 do not keep his Commandments
00:38:51 this is according to the law and the
00:38:53 prophets
00:38:55 the law according to as we read uh
00:39:00 the statutes and ordinances
00:39:03 so just statutes and judgments on my
00:39:07 to-do list of my long to-do list to do
00:39:09 is to show the parallels of where we
00:39:14 talk about charity or where Charities
00:39:16 talked in the scriptures and how you
00:39:18 must possess that to be saved and then
00:39:22 show the the correlations with that
00:39:24 everywhere that shows that you have to
00:39:25 keep the Commandments to be saved right
00:39:27 to be sanctified
00:39:29 and the the other thing the other thing
00:39:31 about that is if one must be in if one
00:39:33 must be possessed of charity
00:39:36 it is impossible to be possessed of a
00:39:38 feeling because feelings are brought on
00:39:39 by chemical reactions and those come and
00:39:41 go
00:39:42 exactly
00:39:43 good point
00:39:45 so to be possessed of Charity has to be
00:39:49 means to be possessed of something
00:39:50 Deeper Than A Feeling and nowhere and
00:39:53 know the Lord is not talking about being
00:39:54 possessed by some outside Spirit no he’s
00:39:57 talking about having the law written
00:39:59 upon your heart that’s right as in
00:40:02 Possessed it’s inside of you just like
00:40:04 he wants his law written on your innards
00:40:06 right right
00:40:09 um so let’s go back to jst now if that’s
00:40:12 okay yeah that’s fine I yeah I just
00:40:15 wanted to finish up the side track on
00:40:17 you know that that’s fine we’re
00:40:18 unrolling our chaism that we just made
00:40:20 right
00:40:22 [Laughter]
00:40:24 okay all right so
00:40:27 um
00:40:30 uh I’ll read the next one 11 for the
00:40:34 world cannot receive that which ye
00:40:36 yourselves are not able to bear so this
00:40:39 is talking to the apostles at this time
00:40:40 where they’re still learning right
00:40:43 uh so it’s just saying you’re having a
00:40:47 hard time with the Mysteries the world
00:40:48 is going to even have a harder time
00:40:50 right
00:40:51 wherefore you shall not give your pearls
00:40:54 unto them lest they turn again and Rend
00:40:58 to you or like you know then fight
00:41:00 against you lend you that’s tear you rip
00:41:03 you tear you apart
00:41:05 say unto them ask of Elohim ask and it
00:41:10 shall be given to you and you shall find
00:41:12 and knock and it should be opened unto
00:41:13 you for everyone that asks us receive us
00:41:16 and he that ask us to findeth and to him
00:41:19 that knocked this it should be open and
00:41:22 then he said unto disciples they shall
00:41:24 say unto us
00:41:25 ourselves are righteous and we not any
00:41:28 man should teach us we should we heard
00:41:31 Moses and some of them prophets but they
00:41:33 will not hear us okay so I think this is
00:41:35 going on to another subject now well it
00:41:39 is and yet yeah I think that is a
00:41:42 different subject yeah but I I think
00:41:45 it’s an important subject but still it’s
00:41:46 not the same subject yeah but I just
00:41:49 more I I was just on
00:41:52 right here
00:41:53 uh to me it made it clear that
00:41:57 um that the pearls are the Mysteries
00:41:59 right with that jst right there and I I
00:42:04 I repent and I won’t be as worried to
00:42:08 use that term as I was in the past so
00:42:10 excellent
00:42:13 excellent I know I was hesitant to do
00:42:16 that in the past but going through the
00:42:18 jst it to me it made it a lot more clear
00:42:21 right oh yeah yeah the uh there’s it’s
00:42:25 it’s not called The Inspired version for
00:42:27 nothing
00:42:29 exactly uh Joseph Smith was inspired
00:42:32 right yep oh the other thing I think we
00:42:35 wanted to do is maybe look at some
00:42:38 mighty and strong stuff yeah sure so one
00:42:43 thing
00:42:45 um let’s do this yeah I was interested
00:42:47 in those and all that stuff from first
00:42:49 Nephi that you were pulling up yeah yeah
00:42:51 so well I I’m working on a post on
00:42:55 um
00:42:57 so it’s
00:43:00 silly I’m gonna put stuff in the right
00:43:02 spot okay so this is my post I’m working
00:43:05 on jst Genesis 50 24-38 and which deals
00:43:09 with the modding strong one
00:43:11 um which we can go over but I think the
00:43:14 more interesting part
00:43:16 is I can find it oh no that’s too bad is
00:43:22 about halfway down halfway yeah yeah
00:43:28 no okay here we go there we are I think
00:43:32 I’m seeing it I think I’m saying it yeah
00:43:33 yeah so
00:43:35 we can start here but we can go and look
00:43:37 more but this these ones probably start
00:43:41 with and we can go look at the other
00:43:43 ones it’s just these ones are a little
00:43:44 more prepared because I’ve put in little
00:43:46 notes in them right right so done your
00:43:50 glyphing and what have you yeah yeah
00:43:52 yeah so I’ll I’ll read the first one and
00:43:55 it came past that I Yahweh speak on to
00:43:58 me or this in case is going to be Nephi
00:44:01 yep uh thou shall construct it oh I
00:44:05 didn’t do it here yet so actually we’ll
00:44:07 do it live now this is going to be my
00:44:10 strong one I have it on the next ones
00:44:12 though
00:44:14 thou Nephi my new strong one Thou shalt
00:44:19 construct a ship now a ship is an ark
00:44:23 and the Ark is Torah
00:44:28 now Nephi Within
00:44:32 I love I love the way I love the way
00:44:35 you’re using that historical precedent
00:44:37 that’s right so
00:44:39 um the high is Elijah
00:44:42 Nephi is Elisha
00:44:45 and Jacob is the Redeemer in the the
00:44:49 three-person pair in this
00:44:52 circumstances I mean I can kind of I I
00:44:54 can kind of see that yeah because
00:44:56 Nephi’s getting the murder and Jacob is
00:44:59 the one that has him in the land
00:45:01 primarily right yeah I mean it’s not
00:45:04 perfect no it’s not perfect but it’s uh
00:45:08 it kind of feels if Nephi being the
00:45:10 mighty and strong one he does get to
00:45:12 colonize the land right and Nephi learns
00:45:15 from his father just like the mighty and
00:45:17 strong one does that’s good uh in in all
00:45:21 cases actually
00:45:23 um but a big one Moses with jeffro is
00:45:26 the big one of a pattern on that but
00:45:28 that even happens with
00:45:30 Elisha he learns from Elijah right yep
00:45:35 um so the the pattern fits but anyways
00:45:37 and the ship is an arc like Noah’s Ark
00:45:40 and the Ark is Torah yeah and even just
00:45:43 the way that
00:45:45 um
00:45:46 Yahweh describes the Ark in Genesis it
00:45:49 points to Torah actually
00:45:52 um so but after the manner would Yahweh
00:45:55 shall show on to Nephi or the mining
00:45:59 strong one because the mining strong
00:46:00 one’s going to get told by Yahweh what
00:46:03 to do right but all Yahweh may carry thy
00:46:11 and uh Joseph Smith case
00:46:14 uh restoration Believers right yeah
00:46:17 restoration branches restoration
00:46:19 branches
00:46:21 because that’s what the mighty strong
00:46:22 one’s going to do right across these
00:46:25 Waters now here in the uh top level it
00:46:31 has to about bringing them to
00:46:34 the promised land Heartland USA but when
00:46:38 it comes down to the pattern of the
00:46:39 mighty and strong one uh has to do with
00:46:42 uh heaven right and Crossing these
00:46:46 Waters is crossing the deep sea AKA
00:46:49 letting go of the Sea Beast
00:46:51 okay
00:46:53 so so you hear you hear Waters you’re
00:46:57 not taking the you don’t believe this is
00:46:59 the people interpretation you believe
00:47:01 this is the um
00:47:03 like World it could be it could be the
00:47:06 the people but it’s the people of the
00:47:09 Sea Beast right okay yeah so I I think
00:47:13 that’s fine but it’s getting them away
00:47:15 from having them cross
00:47:18 the people of the Sea Beast yeah which
00:47:21 actually goes along with Joseph Smith’s
00:47:23 last dream also and it actually goes
00:47:25 long it actually goes along along with a
00:47:27 lot of the uh Revelations concerning the
00:47:30 last days not just uh not just
00:47:33 Revelation itself where it says that the
00:47:35 Zion will be kept safe in the wilderness
00:47:39 um
00:47:40 also
00:47:41 um because they’re separate from the
00:47:43 people right and so yeah but several
00:47:47 there’s several other places where it
00:47:49 talks about that as well right so it’s
00:47:51 following the basic pattern uh and I
00:47:55 Nephi mining strongly said unto Yahweh
00:47:57 whether shall I
00:48:00 Nephi Mighty and strong one
00:48:02 oops I may find or
00:48:06 guess what that is
00:48:08 Torah yeah right
00:48:11 um
00:48:13 tumultan or make easy soft
00:48:16 for other people to understand it
00:48:19 um
00:48:20 that may make tools to construct the
00:48:22 ship okay so if the ark is Torah then
00:48:27 the or is that which is used to make the
00:48:30 tools that make Torah
00:48:33 yeah well so that’s um word of God then
00:48:36 right yep
00:48:38 that would fit better
00:48:40 um which I kind of put those together
00:48:42 but I guess what the analogy makes a
00:48:43 little more sense saying word of Yahweh
00:48:45 right yeah uh that I may make tools to
00:48:48 construct the ship arctura after the man
00:48:51 was Yahweh has shown unto me right so
00:48:55 this is in fact or Mighty and strong
00:48:57 right and so Moses is a mighty strong
00:49:02 one with the pattern of or in the
00:49:04 instance of gestural Jethro Moses and
00:49:08 Joshua and
00:49:10 that statement goes along with what
00:49:12 happened with Moses he saw heaven so he
00:49:15 knew what how to put things here on
00:49:18 Earth right
00:49:19 yep so that definitely goes with that so
00:49:24 um that’s actually pretty cool yeah and
00:49:27 we we can go read the whole chapter
00:49:29 because I I actually read it today it
00:49:32 goes along with it I just I didn’t put
00:49:36 it here first Nephi 17 yeah you know if
00:49:40 you’re not if you’re not uh if you’re
00:49:42 just reading it to read this is this is
00:49:45 the problem with people who say that
00:49:47 what you have to do is read your
00:49:48 scriptures is if you’re just reading it
00:49:51 to read what you get out of first Nephi
00:49:53 17 is a great story about God showing
00:49:56 his power to Layman 11 year old Nephi
00:49:58 and all of his brothers building a boat
00:50:00 so a great story on the foot on the face
00:50:03 of it and yet at the same time you miss
00:50:06 these deeper prophetic meanings if all
00:50:08 you do is read it
00:50:10 um
00:50:11 now
00:50:14 uh Nephi states he has the mysteries of
00:50:18 God Elohim and he’s putting that into
00:50:20 the record here but anyways I’ll just
00:50:23 read this I Nephi having been born of
00:50:25 goodly parents wherefore I was taught
00:50:27 someone in the learning of my father
00:50:29 in which he was a prophet right going
00:50:32 back to uh mosiah
00:50:35 one right having been Afflicted in the
00:50:39 course of my days nevertheless having
00:50:40 been highly favorited Yahweh in all my
00:50:43 days having a great knowledge of the
00:50:46 goodness and the mysteries of Elohim
00:50:49 wherefore I make a record of my
00:50:51 proceedings in my day
00:50:53 and if I need knew the Mysteries and
00:50:56 he’s putting the mysteries in these
00:50:57 records for people to find them okay but
00:51:00 it’ll only happen if you search right
00:51:03 and
00:51:05 you’re looking for deeper meanings and
00:51:07 to take it back to the Joseph Smith
00:51:09 translation seek and ye shall find
00:51:12 exactly
00:51:14 um it they’re not so these are histories
00:51:17 okay but their histories written in a
00:51:20 way to give us deeper meanings okay
00:51:24 and hopefully people are kind of seeing
00:51:26 that because
00:51:28 I mean Noah’s ship is called an ark
00:51:31 right yeah and if you go look at the
00:51:34 descriptions of Yahweh of the Ark in
00:51:37 Genesis and compare it to description of
00:51:39 Torah there’s correlations there okay
00:51:42 yep I’m I’m We’re not gonna do that
00:51:45 right now because right now we’re here
00:51:46 and I’d have to go find it so Torah it
00:51:51 would seem to me that Torah is
00:51:54 if the word of God is what builds Torah
00:51:57 then Torah is also
00:52:00 and Torah is also action
00:52:03 yeah yeah
00:52:04 um well for those who have Torah written
00:52:06 on their heart they do it just like in
00:52:09 lectures on faith lecture one you do
00:52:12 what you believe right so I I think it
00:52:16 fits together pretty well myself
00:52:18 um
00:52:20 I think we’ve got some I think we’ve got
00:52:22 some I think we’ve done some I think
00:52:24 this is some nice work here I’m really
00:52:26 I’m finding this really interesting yeah
00:52:29 so let’s let Zach read this one
00:52:31 okay
00:52:42 no read it out loud Zach okay
00:52:46 now Yahweh would be your light no
00:52:48 wilderness
00:52:51 and I always will hear the way before
00:52:54 you
00:52:55 if I guess I didn’t have it on this one
00:53:01 uh Nephi so let me do this one
00:53:04 um and then you can do the next one how
00:53:06 about that because I I guess I didn’t
00:53:08 prepare this one sorry so if it
00:53:10 I will prepare the way before you Nephi
00:53:13 Mighty strong if Thou shalt keep my
00:53:16 yahweh’s Commandments Torah right so if
00:53:19 you’ll do it you’ll be able to give it
00:53:21 to others right
00:53:23 because uh Deuteronomy 28 29 brings out
00:53:26 if you keep my commandment she’ll be a
00:53:29 leader right
00:53:30 wherefore and so in as much as ye Nephi
00:53:33 Mighty and strong one
00:53:35 shall keep my Commandments Torah you
00:53:38 shall be led towards the Promised Land
00:53:42 okay so that’s uh symbolic of multiple
00:53:46 things like heaven
00:53:48 um and that’s what happens the mining
00:53:50 strong one is going to lead the people
00:53:52 towards that right and uh and on the uh
00:53:55 and on the deepest uh relationship sense
00:53:58 with the Lord promised land is his rest
00:54:01 correct yes but on the surface level
00:54:04 that has more the more the first reason
00:54:07 why I put this here along with uh uh jst
00:54:11 Genesis 50 24 of far Country USA and
00:54:16 symbolic of Heaven yeah right and yeah
00:54:19 oh sorry did you want to say something
00:54:23 okay and yay Yi Nephi Mighty strong one
00:54:27 shall know
00:54:29 that it is me Yahweh that ye are LED
00:54:34 right oh God put me by
00:54:38 so it’s not like this uh iffy iffy world
00:54:41 that some people just think they’re
00:54:43 getting Revelation from Yahweh and then
00:54:46 everybody else is getting contradicted
00:54:48 for sure
00:54:49 and everybody else is getting
00:54:51 contradictory Revelation and everybody’s
00:54:53 like uh-huh I don’t know yeah it’ll be
00:54:56 more like a Jeremiah or Isaiah or Lehi
00:54:59 event right where he well absolutely
00:55:03 know yay and the and Yahweh said on also
00:55:08 that after ye Nephi
00:55:10 Mighty and strong one arrive in the
00:55:13 promised land
00:55:15 um which Heaven your rest oh and then I
00:55:19 need to fix this sorry
00:55:21 uh which is also representative the far
00:55:25 country
00:55:26 you uh Heartland right oh man if you
00:55:29 take if you take this promised land and
00:55:32 you relate it to the Tabernacle it’s
00:55:34 just
00:55:35 oh oh yeah yeah I’m just see I’m just
00:55:38 getting so much imagery here yeah yeah
00:55:40 well I I’m I’m glad I’m helping people
00:55:43 see it right
00:55:45 if I everyone at that point shall know
00:55:49 that I Yahweh am Elohim and then I
00:55:53 Yahweh
00:55:54 that I will deliver you Nephi Believers
00:55:58 from destruction
00:56:01 in fact
00:56:02 um at that point this is going to be
00:56:04 after the second coming right you’re
00:56:06 going to know that you got delivered
00:56:07 from destruction yeah like 35 10. yeah
00:56:12 the point of realization for everybody
00:56:15 is not going to be in the moment right
00:56:18 but at at later they will know yeah yeah
00:56:22 I Yahweh will bring you out of the land
00:56:24 of Jerusalem which goes back to us
00:56:28 jst Genesis
00:56:30 all right
00:56:32 yeah
00:56:34 uh I think 50 I forget the verse but in
00:56:37 there it talks about the walls and the
00:56:39 borders yes so I’ll just show that real
00:56:42 quick
00:56:43 I’m not making that up
00:56:45 also goes 49-22 sorry uh the wall also
00:56:50 goes with um
00:56:53 that Vision in Ezekiel with where the
00:56:56 man takes the read and measures out the
00:56:59 holy city
00:57:02 yeah
00:57:03 no I’m not sure where that and I don’t
00:57:05 remember where that one
00:57:07 I need to I want to look more into later
00:57:10 but yeah it’s called Genesis wrong
00:57:14 uh no you need another s you need
00:57:16 another is oh yeah and you need an e
00:57:19 instead of that first time
00:57:21 there we go okay all right yeah
00:57:25 um okay so maybe Zach can do
00:57:30 this one because this one looks like I
00:57:32 uh brought it out already so maybe drink
00:57:36 this one
00:57:39 am I brethren
00:57:42 no and when
00:57:45 yeah and when my when my brother and saw
00:57:48 that I was about to build a ship I think
00:57:52 he wants you to read out the glyphs read
00:57:55 the glue
00:57:56 [Music]
00:57:59 no one
00:58:03 um
00:58:05 when my
00:58:07 new fire
00:58:10 writing strong one
00:58:12 Brethren or let me know the unwise
00:58:15 versions versions
00:58:18 saw that I if I read strong one was
00:58:21 about to build a ship an arc slash Torah
00:58:25 very limited Lemuel
00:58:28 began to murmur against me well I just
00:58:31 want the unwise virgins right yeah
00:58:34 okay
00:58:36 that’s that’s a that’s a pretty
00:58:38 important thing for where we are now
00:58:41 well yeah I I mean
00:58:44 um pretty much everybody complains about
00:58:45 Torah right now right the ark the ship
00:58:48 there’s there’s an awful lot of unwise
00:58:50 virgins uh yes in that they’re only
00:58:54 keeping five
00:58:55 to some extent of keeping the five
00:58:58 Commandments that have been good to your
00:59:01 your neighbor but they can’t even really
00:59:04 agree on it but they are trying to be
00:59:05 good to their neighbors but what they
00:59:08 are not doing is worshiping Yahweh the
00:59:10 way that he wants to be worshiped right
00:59:12 which has to do with all ten of The
00:59:14 Commandments but anyways yep
00:59:19 uh I think it began the murmur against
00:59:23 Nephi the mighty strong one saying
00:59:27 saying Nephi the mining strong one is a
00:59:31 fool for he the money strong one think
00:59:34 is that he can build a Torah a law or
00:59:39 restore the law yay the mining strong
00:59:42 would also think is that he can cross
00:59:45 these Great Waters of apostasy that has
00:59:48 happened to resolve the problem right
00:59:51 and thus the mighty and strong ones
00:59:54 Brethren the unwise versions did
00:59:57 complain a bit against the mighty new
00:59:59 strong one
01:00:00 and we’re desirous that the unwise
01:00:04 versions might not keep Torah for the
01:00:08 unwise versions did not believe that the
01:00:10 mighty strongman could bring forth the
01:00:12 Torah neither would the unwise virgins
01:00:15 believe that the mining strong one was
01:00:17 instructed of Yahweh
01:00:19 and now it came to pass that the mining
01:00:21 strong was exceedling sorrowful
01:00:24 because the hardness of the hearts of
01:00:26 the unwise versions of their wicked
01:00:29 hearts
01:00:30 and now when the unwise version saw that
01:00:32 the mighty strong wanted to be sorrowful
01:00:36 those unwise virgins were glad in their
01:00:38 wicked hearts and so much that those
01:00:40 unwise virgins that Rejoice over the
01:00:42 mighty strongly saying we knew
01:00:45 us unwise versions knew that you could
01:00:48 not construct the Torah
01:00:52 for we unwise virgins knew that they
01:00:54 were lacking you were lacking in Torah
01:00:57 were for thou Cuts not accomplished so
01:01:00 great a work and the mighty and strong
01:01:03 one will be the one that doing the the
01:01:06 great or uh yeah it’s not going to be
01:01:09 it’s not going to be account it’s not
01:01:11 going to be a new Sanhedrin it’s not
01:01:12 going to be a new Council of men
01:01:15 right it’s going to be the Mind strong
01:01:17 that’s going to bring forth that Mighty
01:01:19 work in the last days
01:01:21 and so here’s these unwise versions are
01:01:24 just so great and happy that because
01:01:26 they don’t think that the money strong
01:01:29 one can do that great work now the
01:01:31 interesting thing is is that this is
01:01:32 actually the other thing that points to
01:01:36 this
01:01:37 as a
01:01:40 restoration a prophecy of restoration
01:01:44 is that Nephi’s ship was a
01:01:49 kind of a reconstruction
01:01:51 of the Ark if you will
01:01:53 yeah of Noah’s Ark yeah it was and um
01:01:57 and just on that point there’s things in
01:02:00 the brother of Jared account with his
01:02:04 um ships ties a dish that goes back to
01:02:06 Noah’s Ark also oh
01:02:11 um well and it also tight is the ships
01:02:15 being tied as a dish indicates how
01:02:18 faithful the people were to Torah
01:02:20 right right and the light has to to
01:02:23 because there’s the light in the back
01:02:24 and like in the front uh points to Tara
01:02:28 and also just Revelation also right
01:02:32 um because
01:02:34 Torah tells us what happened in the past
01:02:37 and how to act in the future
01:02:40 right so
01:02:43 um and that’s what Revelation does it
01:02:44 explains the past
01:02:46 and helps us know what to do in the
01:02:48 future
01:02:49 so anyways
01:02:52 but I would say that the right now the
01:02:54 foolish virgins aren’t saying that you
01:02:55 can’t reconstruct or I’m they’re saying
01:02:58 there’s no need for Torah
01:03:01 um you need to reconstruct Torah
01:03:04 yeah I can go with that
01:03:06 um
01:03:07 but I I can go somewhat either way
01:03:10 because a lot of these guys
01:03:13 um will believe in the documentary
01:03:15 hypothesis right which is bogus in fact
01:03:19 the silver scroll uh disproves that
01:03:23 yeah
01:03:24 so they’re saying you just can’t know
01:03:26 which means you can’t really reconstruct
01:03:28 it so why keep it so I think there’s
01:03:31 some of both to be honest yeah because
01:03:33 if you push the the documentary
01:03:35 hypothesis which shows that you can’t
01:03:38 really you can’t know you can’t figure
01:03:40 it out right right and so I I do believe
01:03:44 though yeah the idea that aspersion the
01:03:48 idea of casting aspersion on all
01:03:50 witnesses to it yeah yeah
01:03:54 um but the the silver scroll goes
01:03:56 against that so would you want to say
01:03:57 Zach that is kind of a lemon and lemon
01:04:00 meal for saying like we’re ready to
01:04:03 build a ship where you don’t need to
01:04:04 leave or we don’t need to leave this
01:04:06 nice place oh yeah yeah
01:04:09 um yes do you say that I didn’t put that
01:04:12 in here because I didn’t go with the
01:04:14 overall majority of the post but yes
01:04:18 they do say that
01:04:20 um our
01:04:21 the people of Jerusalem are righteous
01:04:23 and they’re keeping Torah even though
01:04:25 that they’re not right and so we
01:04:27 shouldn’t be believe you guys are crazy
01:04:30 well I the whole thing is is that in
01:04:33 their efforts to throw Torah under the
01:04:35 bus these people will state
01:04:39 will repeat the lies of the people in
01:04:42 Jerusalem who said that they were
01:04:44 keeping Torah
01:04:46 right right right they’re they’re trying
01:04:48 to push the false traditions of men as
01:04:51 Torah yeah which
01:04:54 um
01:04:55 in their mind gives them justification
01:04:57 for not needing to keep it right but the
01:05:00 oral law is not Torah right false
01:05:03 traditions of men and Yeshua in the New
01:05:05 Testament chewed those people out or
01:05:07 those oral laws which they thought from
01:05:09 the Canaanites and Babylon yeah
01:05:14 um so it’s pretty it’s pretty pretty
01:05:16 disgusting actually
01:05:18 yes it is and we don’t need to get into
01:05:22 it um no I don’t and we’ve talked about
01:05:24 various portions of it right um but it
01:05:27 it’s it’s not of Yahweh yeah there’s
01:05:30 it’s darkness that need not be covered
01:05:32 here right uh at least not right now
01:05:36 before I just I don’t Sidetrack on that
01:05:39 so you want to read this one Ben
01:05:42 wherefore Yahweh commended the mighty
01:05:45 and strong one
01:05:47 um and commanded the mighty and strong
01:05:49 ones Father Joseph Smith that he Joseph
01:05:52 Smith should depart Into the Wilderness
01:05:55 and the Jews brighamites also sought to
01:05:58 take away Joseph Smith’s life
01:06:00 and they did yay and Layman and Lemuel
01:06:05 the foolish virgins I’m gathering that’s
01:06:07 the same pairing still oh yeah yeah
01:06:09 sorry yep uh also a sought to take away
01:06:14 Joseph Smith’s life
01:06:16 um wherefore ye are murderers in your
01:06:18 heart Wicked Hearts
01:06:20 um the foolish virgins uh like unto the
01:06:24 um like unto the unbelievers
01:06:28 that that that fits right yeah
01:06:32 um
01:06:36 even if they don’t seek to take away his
01:06:38 life they seek to take away his
01:06:39 Integrity right well and then okay so
01:06:43 when you’re trying to change someone’s
01:06:45 words you’re actually trying to take
01:06:46 away their life
01:06:49 yeah yeah I can see that yeah because
01:06:52 that his words show his character that’s
01:06:56 true
01:06:58 um and or when you try to put words into
01:07:01 their mouth right and that changes
01:07:03 character just as life and this chain
01:07:05 murdering who he is in making him in
01:07:08 their own image that’s true so it’s very
01:07:11 true so yes okay so I see uh so I see
01:07:15 why I I see why it’s uh
01:07:18 so I can see the connection better now
01:07:21 so yeah okay that’s cool that’s fine uh
01:07:24 you want to do this one too okay
01:07:28 it came to pass that I the mighty and
01:07:30 strong ones head on to that and said
01:07:32 unto the unwise virgins that they that
01:07:34 the unwise virgins should fight no more
01:07:36 against
01:07:39 uh Torah
01:07:42 neither should they neither should the
01:07:44 unwise virgins withhold their labor or
01:07:47 fruits of Torah from from the mighty and
01:07:51 strong one for Elohim has commanded the
01:07:54 mighty and strong one that he should
01:07:55 build and that he should build a ship
01:07:58 Arc Torah
01:08:01 um and technically I think that the ship
01:08:04 might actually be the structure
01:08:07 by which Torah is
01:08:10 uh put out in the world
01:08:14 um
01:08:15 so with Moses the ark is worded Torah
01:08:19 actually uh was came put inside of right
01:08:23 and with Noah and the Ark it was the
01:08:27 people that went inside the ark and Tor
01:08:30 is supposed to be written where on our
01:08:31 hearts right well I just see who you’re
01:08:34 saying because I I’m just thinking about
01:08:37 the fact that it’s a structure
01:08:39 right right I I see what you’re saying
01:08:41 but trying to put that in my little
01:08:43 quick glyphs is yeah that’d be that’d
01:08:46 take that’d take forever that’ll take
01:08:48 forever they would no longer be quick
01:08:49 lifts right right it wouldn’t be a quick
01:08:52 listen I’m trying to make these glyphs
01:08:53 short but I am I’m giving validity
01:08:55 validity to what you’re saying right
01:08:58 yeah yeah yeah
01:09:01 the arc is where the tour was contained
01:09:05 and and for Moses and then for Noah it’s
01:09:10 where the people were contained
01:09:12 and where is Torah supposed to be
01:09:14 written on I’m telling you I mean the
01:09:17 reason why I bring this out is because
01:09:19 I’m seen in here
01:09:21 not only the prophecy of the restoration
01:09:23 of Torah
01:09:25 but of the restoration of God’s true of
01:09:28 God’s true church
01:09:29 once again yes yes it’s coming back
01:09:34 um not
01:09:35 and it will come and it will come with
01:09:38 Torah right with the mighty and strong
01:09:41 one who has who has Authority at that
01:09:44 point right
01:09:45 um because I so on this point
01:09:49 well I mean there’s tons of Pretenders
01:09:51 right now and they’re a dime a dozen
01:09:54 um
01:09:55 and they all get mad when you ask them
01:09:57 about fruits
01:09:59 right right
01:10:02 I’m trying to find
01:10:04 words
01:10:09 verse I’m trying to
01:10:13 um I’m trying to find the right one
01:10:18 okay so I’m gonna change Windows because
01:10:20 I can find it faster in another place
01:10:22 okay well because I can’t do control F
01:10:26 there
01:10:27 okay
01:10:29 so oh yeah we uh hi Paul
01:10:33 speaking of dime a dozen but yeah so
01:10:37 Paul since we have this up right now
01:10:39 it’s Blasphemous to call you the
01:10:43 suffering servant that is Yeshua Isaiah
01:10:46 53 and no man may take the name no man
01:10:51 may take the hell unless you repent no
01:10:53 man May no man may take the name of the
01:10:55 Lord in vain
01:10:58 and be held blameless right well this
01:11:02 might be one of the one of the worst
01:11:03 ways of uh vain is that you’re saying
01:11:06 you are God calling yourself the
01:11:08 suffering servant
01:11:10 grow up and repent anyways okay all
01:11:14 right so let’s go back to the thing that
01:11:15 I was actually going to say I just said
01:11:17 that since it was there
01:11:19 yeah well
01:11:21 it didn’t sound angry it didn’t sound
01:11:23 angry though no it’s just
01:11:28 okay so here’s the one I wanted to say
01:11:30 so
01:11:33 in the day that Yahweh tells the money
01:11:37 strong one go do your job now
01:11:39 he will become
01:11:41 he’ll be weak at that just before he
01:11:44 gets told to do it and then he’ll be
01:11:45 made strong yep okay and that point when
01:11:49 Yahweh gives his calling whoever who he
01:11:51 is
01:11:52 it’s in one instant he’ll go from
01:11:55 weakness to strength okay and and that
01:11:59 in those last days when Yahweh shall go
01:12:02 forth among all his people when my works
01:12:06 I’ll go forth among all my people that
01:12:08 and that I see the prophecy of the
01:12:10 restoration of
01:12:12 the organization right and also of the
01:12:16 lamanites
01:12:17 some of the Jews and or I mean sorry the
01:12:22 lamanites the Jews and some Gentiles
01:12:25 okay yeah well I I I yeah I’m having a
01:12:28 harder a harder and harder time seeing a
01:12:30 whole lot of Gentiles but still well
01:12:32 most of the Jews are right now too it’s
01:12:35 a hard time awesome yeah
01:12:38 um
01:12:38 though when he did his great miracles
01:12:43 um the Gentiles started believing
01:12:45 I think the same thing will happen with
01:12:47 the money and struggle okay yeah I hope
01:12:50 so I have some hope for that and I think
01:12:53 it’s uh uh well I don’t think it’s a I
01:12:56 don’t think it’s a vain hope necessarily
01:12:58 I don’t think it’s paying home I I don’t
01:13:00 know I don’t know how much of the
01:13:02 Gentiles but some will okay right same
01:13:05 with the Jews I I think first though
01:13:09 um there will be some Jews that will
01:13:10 come and lamanites initially that will
01:13:12 make the Jews jealous though so right
01:13:16 um so what is that uh I think even 35 16
01:13:20 goes over that sum which I have I’ve
01:13:22 started a chiasm on that but I haven’t
01:13:24 finished it because that one’s just a
01:13:26 couple of tricky points on there but
01:13:28 anyways
01:13:29 um but more what I want to bring out
01:13:31 here was
01:13:33 when he gets his calling he will go from
01:13:37 weak to strong okay then he will get his
01:13:39 authority right and uh just another
01:13:42 thing to go along with that I’m going to
01:13:44 show with what I have
01:13:47 already written
01:13:48 along with this
01:13:50 there’s a lot of these Pretenders that
01:13:52 have stupid sayings and that aren’t
01:13:54 convincing anybody right really because
01:13:56 they don’t have any convincing power
01:13:58 because they have no power and authority
01:14:00 from God but uh I think this is f so I’m
01:14:05 sidetracking a little bit
01:14:07 [Music]
01:14:10 yes okay so
01:14:13 I’ll I’ll read these two F’s
01:14:16 and again as the mighty and strong will
01:14:19 Yahweh raise up out of the fruit of the
01:14:21 loins of Joseph and on to the mining
01:14:24 strongman will Yahweh give power to
01:14:28 bring forth his word
01:14:30 unto the seed of Joseph’s loins
01:14:34 and not bring forth yahweh’s words only
01:14:39 say of Yahweh but convincing them
01:14:43 of yahweh’s words
01:14:46 just saying it but getting people to
01:14:48 believe it
01:14:50 on Mass
01:14:52 I mean Mass not just like one or two
01:14:54 people on yeah yeah
01:14:58 and then the other part that goes around
01:14:59 this the second F and
01:15:02 the mighty strong on will Yahweh bless
01:15:05 and his enemies that seek to destroy him
01:15:08 shall be confounded
01:15:10 so instead of these pretended mining
01:15:13 strong women saying well I already
01:15:14 covered that go get someone else to
01:15:16 answer it
01:15:18 uh he’ll actually sit there and expound
01:15:21 the scriptures to the point that they’re
01:15:22 confounded
01:15:24 and they’re dumbfounded it’ll be like
01:15:27 Nephi right in fact I we’re gonna I I
01:15:30 have that down there um I wonder yeah 35
01:15:32 7 18. yeah yeah or This Promise Yahweh I
01:15:37 gave unto Joseph
01:15:38 so Yahweh told Joseph of Egypt that the
01:15:42 money is strong will be confounding
01:15:43 people none of this
01:15:46 garbage answers that uh um Can someone
01:15:50 else answer this for me because I
01:15:52 already have
01:15:53 uh yeah I’m talking about you Paul and
01:15:55 others but I just you’re more recent but
01:15:58 anyways but so an interesting little
01:16:01 tidbit Nephi son of Nephi from third
01:16:05 Nephi did I say need fire enough right
01:16:08 yeah I think you could say it a few more
01:16:11 times okay well this Nephi from third
01:16:14 Nephi is a mighty and strong one okay
01:16:18 yes because his father was Elijah uh or
01:16:24 Joseph Smith okay
01:16:26 um
01:16:27 so but anyways the one who had so the
01:16:30 one who had the ceiling power was Joseph
01:16:31 Smith and this one is the mighty and
01:16:33 strong one okay
01:16:35 yeah
01:16:36 um so
01:16:38 here’s Nephi
01:16:40 having
01:16:41 what the mighty strong one is to have
01:16:44 because he is that title
01:16:47 and this is why they’re bringing it out
01:16:49 here because they’re teaching us about
01:16:52 the money strong that we need to watch
01:16:53 out for okay
01:16:55 and it came to pass it they were angry
01:16:57 with Nephi the mining strong one even
01:17:00 because he had greater power than they
01:17:03 were not possible they could disbelieve
01:17:06 his words oh wait a minute that’s what
01:17:08 we just read about the mining and strong
01:17:09 one right uh-huh yep so great was his
01:17:13 faith on Yahweh
01:17:16 yes to the Messiah
01:17:18 the Angels did Minister on him daily
01:17:21 now there’s one thing that’s kind of
01:17:24 interesting here what is the calling of
01:17:26 angels
01:17:28 to call people to repentance
01:17:31 of Christ they speak the words of Christ
01:17:34 in their teaching
01:17:35 Nephi the mighty strongman how to do
01:17:37 that also
01:17:39 to the point where people could not
01:17:40 disbelieve his words
01:17:43 just like
01:17:45 um when the angel visited uh Lehman and
01:17:48 Lemuel back in uh
01:17:50 first Nephi
01:17:54 uh is it four five or six area
01:17:58 where they were the angel told them what
01:18:01 they needed to do and they needed to go
01:18:02 back and they couldn’t just believe the
01:18:04 angel at the time right right yeah yeah
01:18:08 um but as soon as he left they were just
01:18:11 angry and disagreed with him right which
01:18:13 is what happens here with uh this Mighty
01:18:15 and strong one right right
01:18:17 um and then
01:18:19 and the name of Yeshua did cast out
01:18:22 devils and unclean spirits oh wait look
01:18:24 there’s miracles
01:18:27 confirmable Miracles that the mining
01:18:29 strong one is going to be doing okay
01:18:31 none of this I I gotta pretend
01:18:34 Revelation from God telling me that I am
01:18:37 the mighty and strong one just believe
01:18:39 me no that’s not a fruit I mean we can
01:18:42 go back to Dean see where it says you
01:18:44 shall know them by their fruits and once
01:18:45 you know the fruits you then pray about
01:18:46 it right but anyways maybe it’s a maybe
01:18:49 it’s a fruit but it’s not the kind you
01:18:51 want uh yeah those those fruits are
01:18:54 pretend fruits
01:18:57 exactly I’ve got peaches in my fridge
01:19:00 does that count
01:19:02 you’re reading the wrong Bible again I
01:19:06 got a banana I got a banana you’re
01:19:09 really reading the wrong Bible
01:19:12 hey I apologize
01:19:15 we all know that an apple is the fruit
01:19:17 of the Gods
01:19:18 uh yeah that that’s the wrong Bible too
01:19:21 anyways
01:19:24 um
01:19:25 okay enough enough yeah enough of that
01:19:27 even
01:19:28 his brother
01:19:30 his brother he rise from the dead and I
01:19:33 mean that overshadows something but
01:19:36 anyways I’m not gonna get too much of
01:19:37 that oh my word yes it does it does
01:19:40 doesn’t it and he had been stoned and
01:19:43 stuff suffered death by the people
01:19:47 there’s a lot of Shadows in the Book of
01:19:50 Mormon on something and this is this
01:19:53 one’s in Revelation yeah 11. anyways
01:19:57 and did witness it
01:20:00 and they were angry with him because of
01:20:02 his power
01:20:04 and he did so many miracles in the sight
01:20:06 of the people of the unbelievers So You
01:20:10 Pretenders out they say oh I can’t do it
01:20:12 because you don’t believe me
01:20:13 you’re full of
01:20:18 and decided I think I think it’s
01:20:21 important here to point out that the
01:20:22 central point of this chiasmus is that
01:20:25 so great was his faith on the Lord yes
01:20:27 your way
01:20:29 yes you were the Messiah that’s why he
01:20:32 could do all that that he could actually
01:20:34 that his faith was sufficient that he
01:20:37 could do Miracles he did not require
01:20:40 the faith of others
01:20:42 no
01:20:44 no
01:20:45 no it didn’t matter what other people
01:20:46 thought or believed Jesus Yeshua Yeshua
01:20:50 was the same way
01:20:51 he did not require Faith oh wait a
01:20:54 minute look at this ah are you reading
01:20:56 my mind here
01:21:01 we don’t have to read the whole thing
01:21:03 but Yeshua raise someone from the dead
01:21:05 Lazarus
01:21:07 um from the dead in front of unbelievers
01:21:10 also in fact
01:21:12 um the this raising the dead is the same
01:21:16 type of raising the dead a Lazarus event
01:21:18 right but anyway
01:21:20 um that’s another subject
01:21:23 um this is incredible yeah this is
01:21:25 incredible the foreshadowing the typing
01:21:28 is it’s beautiful when you it’s
01:21:31 beautiful when you can see it and you
01:21:32 can appreciate it the language of the
01:21:35 fathers that’s right and I I I for those
01:21:40 who are even I think somewhat familiar
01:21:42 with the mining strong one with these
01:21:44 things that we’re pulling out from
01:21:46 personify 17.
01:21:49 I I don’t think anybody would say that
01:21:51 I’m just making this up it’s just
01:21:54 they didn’t see it before I’m just
01:21:56 trying to help people see it now
01:21:58 okay
01:22:00 um
01:22:02 what is it what’s the point of having
01:22:04 the knowledge of the Ancients what’s the
01:22:07 point of having the knowledge of our
01:22:09 fathers if we don’t share that knowledge
01:22:11 right we’re supposed to share it
01:22:13 I mean yahweh’s leaders share what
01:22:17 they’ve been taught so that way
01:22:20 others can benefit from it
01:22:23 um but they’re getting teachings from
01:22:25 Yahweh directly because they are keeping
01:22:27 Torah
01:22:29 yeah if you want to know the secrets if
01:22:33 you want to know if it’s from from God
01:22:35 or just myself keep it and find out and
01:22:39 I’m paraphrasing Yeshua from the New
01:22:40 Testament
01:22:42 um so anyways
01:22:44 but the but the intent is right is right
01:22:49 on yeah I forget which which passage
01:22:53 we’re on though my memory is not always
01:22:54 the best okay let’s see can we do this
01:22:58 one we just finished with murder is like
01:23:00 under the Jews I think is what we just
01:23:02 finished
01:23:03 oh okay yeah okay so
01:23:06 uh Zach you want to read that actually
01:23:08 no we had finished this one so we were
01:23:10 good okay we were at 1751. okay Zach you
01:23:14 want to read that one
01:23:18 no if
01:23:20 Yoli has such great power yeah so many
01:23:24 miracles Children of Men
01:23:26 how is it that yeah we cannot instruct
01:23:29 instructor
01:23:33 I think I mean Torah is the instructions
01:23:37 yeah how can Yahweh not instruct Torah
01:23:42 to me my new strong one that I can build
01:23:48 Torah to others right so that I can
01:23:51 build the ark
01:23:54 and so it’s when you’re trying to read
01:23:56 it live it is kind of funny but so
01:23:58 here’s yeah so here’s the here’s what
01:24:00 I’m getting from this
01:24:02 notora no Arc
01:24:05 exactly
01:24:07 no ship is a ship is the ark we go back
01:24:11 to the we go back to the children of
01:24:13 Israel if they didn’t have the uh law
01:24:16 there would be no Arc there would be no
01:24:19 Ark of the Covenant and they’d have no
01:24:21 power
01:24:22 exactly that I I can show in the Book of
01:24:25 Mormon that the word of God is power and
01:24:27 the word of God is Torah
01:24:31 that is where people get their power is
01:24:34 the word of Yahweh and so given the fact
01:24:38 that the last days
01:24:40 are compared to the days of Noah
01:24:44 no Torah
01:24:46 no Ark
01:24:48 no salvation without the Torah right
01:24:51 because he that is a very good point
01:24:53 that the last days are like the days of
01:24:55 Noah would save Noah was an ark was
01:24:58 going to save us before the second
01:25:00 coming
01:25:01 is
01:25:03 an ark Torah Miss Torah though for many
01:25:07 people though for some people that
01:25:09 salvation will come in the form of their
01:25:11 death
01:25:13 yeah
01:25:15 the martyrs the martyrs there are going
01:25:18 to be some Martyrs
01:25:19 um but just as oh Daniel’s Brothers I
01:25:23 can never say their names
01:25:26 yes as just in the statement before they
01:25:28 went to the fire judgment they said
01:25:31 whether we die or not we’ll be with God
01:25:33 yep right yep
01:25:38 look greater confidence can you have
01:25:40 than that yeah so uh you want to read
01:25:43 this one Ben
01:25:45 and it came to pass that they did
01:25:47 worship Yoli and to go forth with me
01:25:49 Mighty and strong one and we did work
01:25:52 Timbers and that would be
01:25:54 the trees men of curious workmanship
01:25:57 peculiar Torah yes Torah is peculiar and
01:26:01 many people who oftentimes when we keep
01:26:04 Torah we are looked at as though we are
01:26:06 peculiar and very a very curious
01:26:08 workmanship
01:26:10 but those who believe are missionaries
01:26:13 going to work on other trees yep get
01:26:17 them to keep it also right yeah that’s
01:26:19 right to be of that same peculiar
01:26:21 workmanship
01:26:23 and and Yahweh did and Yahweh did show
01:26:27 Visions
01:26:28 um
01:26:34 strong one envisions from time to time
01:26:37 after what Manner I should work the
01:26:40 Timbers uh work the men now the uh of
01:26:43 the ship or arctura
01:26:47 now
01:26:48 okay now I uh now the mighty and strong
01:26:52 one did go did not work the Timbers uh
01:26:55 trees man after the manor which was
01:26:57 learned by men false Traditions uh did
01:26:59 not work them after false Traditions
01:27:01 neither did the mighty and strong one
01:27:03 build the ark or build the ark for us
01:27:06 after the manner of false Traditions
01:27:10 after Paul’s Traditions but I did build
01:27:13 it after the manor which Yahweh
01:27:16 had shown written with his finger
01:27:19 um
01:27:20 etc etc etc
01:27:22 all right under the minor strong more
01:27:25 onto the mighty and strong one wherefore
01:27:26 it was not after the manner of false
01:27:28 traditions
01:27:30 is that a stretch no no that sounds
01:27:34 accurate well actually I was just trying
01:27:36 the the only thing that I was just
01:27:38 trying to figure out how to work but
01:27:40 yeah yeah into into a workable sentence
01:27:43 Oh yeah yeah that’s fine but that’s
01:27:45 understandable I was doing I I’m fumbled
01:27:48 it a little bit before and I’m the one
01:27:49 that kind of prepared this so doing it
01:27:51 live is not the easiest right right but
01:27:54 the concepts are there
01:27:56 yeah right and so I I’m these these are
01:28:00 not any stretch of the matter this is
01:28:03 what the mining strong one’s going to be
01:28:05 doing
01:28:06 it’s just yeah the language of the
01:28:08 fathers the mighty and strong one is
01:28:10 going to be a constant communication
01:28:12 with the Lord
01:28:14 yes
01:28:15 yeah just like Moses right
01:28:19 yeah
01:28:21 though I do believe that Moses got a day
01:28:23 off once or and he got a couple I I
01:28:25 think the mighty strong one’s going to
01:28:27 get the day off too
01:28:30 I do think Moses got a couple of days
01:28:32 off a week maybe at least but then when
01:28:36 he wasn’t busy being Moses the Moses the
01:28:38 mighty and strong one then he was busy
01:28:39 being Moses the judge so or or or or or
01:28:43 Moses the father or the Moses the
01:28:45 husband but anyway right
01:28:48 anyways because she wasn’t bother and he
01:28:51 was a husband yes he was so I’ll read
01:28:53 this long one and it came to pass that
01:28:56 after the mighty strong one had finished
01:28:58 restoring Torah according to the word of
01:29:02 Yahweh
01:29:03 my brethren beheld it that was good or I
01:29:07 say the
01:29:09 unbelievers right
01:29:11 yep we saw that it was good
01:29:16 and that the workmanship there are
01:29:18 exceedingly fine
01:29:19 wherefore they did humble themselves
01:29:22 well except that my brethren are the
01:29:25 foolish virgins right right the
01:29:27 unbelievers that’s but but after they
01:29:30 saw it actually the Miracles and what it
01:29:33 actually does then they started
01:29:34 believing right right
01:29:37 um so I I think it’s still valid they
01:29:41 did humble them see they became
01:29:42 believers they humbled themselves before
01:29:45 Yahweh and it came to pass that the
01:29:48 voice of Yahweh came on
01:29:50 to
01:29:52 uh money strong ones leader Lehi Joseph
01:29:57 Smith oops
01:29:59 I’m trying to type and talk at the same
01:30:02 time and it’s not working out very well
01:30:03 yeah sometimes sometimes it gets
01:30:06 sometimes it gets hazardous for your
01:30:07 health
01:30:08 yeah well I’m not driving
01:30:10 um
01:30:12 now that would be interesting three
01:30:14 things at once now that we should awake
01:30:17 and arise and keep Torah and go down
01:30:20 into the ship the container of Torah and
01:30:24 it came to pass that on the morrow
01:30:28 after we had prepared all things all
01:30:31 things points to Torah as we’ve talked
01:30:33 about before right much fruit
01:30:36 oh so after we do Torah we get much
01:30:39 fruit and our flesh came out of the
01:30:42 Wilderness and we had much Torah
01:30:46 in abundance honey is a symbol for Torah
01:30:50 and Provisions according to that which
01:30:52 Yahweh have commanded us and so Yahweh
01:30:54 when we keep his laws he is
01:30:58 Beauty death
01:31:01 uh Duty bound Duty bound to uh bless us
01:31:06 okay bless us bless us in these forms
01:31:10 sanctification
01:31:12 um making sure we have enough uh to do
01:31:15 to live with right not to guys buy us a
01:31:18 million dollar car yes
01:31:21 so I was thinking as as this was going
01:31:23 on here uh-huh you know um you know
01:31:26 initially in all these stories you know
01:31:31 um well in this one that we’re going
01:31:33 over in particular with Nephi
01:31:36 um
01:31:37 you know initially
01:31:39 what they’re trying to do ends up
01:31:41 getting mocked and made fun of and stuff
01:31:44 like that right by the people
01:31:48 um and in other situations like when
01:31:51 repentance is being called and
01:31:52 everything else like that people
01:31:55 um normally it seems like there’s a
01:31:58 certain
01:32:00 um level of chastisement that occurs and
01:32:04 then people wake up and smell the roses
01:32:06 if you get what I’m saying yeah um
01:32:09 Fool’s Market National Warren yeah well
01:32:12 sometimes fools wake up right yeah
01:32:14 that’s the hope they can yes
01:32:17 but I I just you know think that that’s
01:32:20 likely to be
01:32:23 another repeated theme moving forward
01:32:25 this time around
01:32:28 um well the and the and the thing is
01:32:31 but the thing is is that when we in
01:32:35 spite of the opposition
01:32:39 side with Yahweh
01:32:42 keep his Torah
01:32:46 then he is Duty bound
01:32:49 to provide us
01:32:51 with all the things of the Earth because
01:32:52 he has promised it it is in his word and
01:32:55 God cannot lie right so it’s true one
01:33:00 thing I’ll say a little more with what
01:33:02 Andrew’s bringing up though is there’s
01:33:04 prophecies how people won’t initially
01:33:07 believe the mighty and strong one but
01:33:10 then he needs to keep forth at it
01:33:13 and then people will start believing and
01:33:16 that’s I think more what I think
01:33:18 Andrew’s bringing out is that people are
01:33:20 mocking so whoever that Mighty and
01:33:23 strong one is
01:33:25 um
01:33:26 he needs to keep at it keep teaching
01:33:28 Torah so at one point when it’s time to
01:33:32 bring all his people back to the
01:33:34 restoration he will be made from weak
01:33:38 unto strong
01:33:39 so that no one will be able to uh
01:33:42 confound him right because he’ll be the
01:33:44 one doing the founding the interesting
01:33:46 thing is that Noah had to persist in
01:33:48 building the ark for 80 years
01:33:50 that’s true years I thought it was a
01:33:52 hundred oh a hundred years you’re right
01:33:55 you’re right you’re right I think it’s
01:33:56 what’s 20 years what’s 20 years guys
01:34:05 do you mean like the symbolism of 20 or
01:34:07 are you trying to just no no no I’m
01:34:09 joking if I’m joking I’m saying yeah 20
01:34:12 80. oh as in from 80 to 100 okay
01:34:21 I always try to go off of the deeper
01:34:24 meaning not just that it was 20 years
01:34:25 off of that yeah but the 100 the 100
01:34:27 years has a has great deeper meaning
01:34:29 right
01:34:32 um I do think uh Noah was a hundred
01:34:34 years we’d have to double check but
01:34:37 um yeah
01:34:40 I do believe both 80 and 100 have great
01:34:43 meaning hey yes yes we just have to get
01:34:46 the right but they’re different meanings
01:34:47 yeah they’re different meanings but
01:34:49 anyways so let’s just uh I think
01:34:51 Andrew’s done with his comment right
01:34:53 yeah yeah okay yeah I was just
01:34:56 recognizing a parallel between then and
01:34:58 you know that story and today that’s
01:35:01 good that that that’s good
01:35:03 um and that’s important because
01:35:06 um history repeats right yeah
01:35:09 Under the Sun baby
01:35:11 yeah I just that I just I just wanted it
01:35:14 I just wanted Andrew to understand that
01:35:16 the Lord has to be with him
01:35:18 If he if he sticks if he sticks with
01:35:21 Torah and does it
01:35:23 yeah and I’m I’m coming around to that
01:35:26 well he’s coming regularly now so yep
01:35:29 coming around to that but you know
01:35:33 there’s certain things that I I needed
01:35:34 to be better with I need to be stronger
01:35:36 on the sabbaths you know I need to be
01:35:39 issues
01:35:43 yeah why we have Fellowship to help each
01:35:45 other okay nope yeah
01:35:47 um acts 15 right the the fourth item is
01:35:52 told the converts is go to church on
01:35:55 Sabbath right and that’s why we have
01:35:57 these okay
01:35:59 um anyways so back to this
01:36:04 abundance Provisions we did that we
01:36:07 shall go down into the ark
01:36:09 sanctification baptism of the Holy Ghost
01:36:13 with our Landing with loading our seeds
01:36:16 our trust and our faith whatsoever we
01:36:19 have brought with us or whatsoever the
01:36:22 Lord God commands us
01:36:23 right everyone according to his age
01:36:27 accountability wherefore we did all go
01:36:31 down into the ship
01:36:32 and kept Torah with our churches and our
01:36:36 followers
01:36:38 holy smokes
01:36:40 oh wait a minute but you know here’s
01:36:42 another thing this actually reminds me
01:36:44 of the language in Revelations whereby
01:36:46 the Lord catches his uh it catches Zion
01:36:50 Into the Wilderness
01:36:52 takes them into the world it carries
01:36:53 them out into the Wilderness I’m not you
01:36:56 want to bring it out and no strong
01:36:57 Revelation so we can go look at it real
01:36:59 quick do you know what yeah let’s take a
01:37:01 look uh
01:37:03 Revelations is not a book I’m strong in
01:37:05 I know bits and pieces but not the whole
01:37:08 thing yeah I it’s one of the benefits
01:37:11 and one of the benefits of having a
01:37:12 prophecy nut in your
01:37:14 in your circle of friends sure well we
01:37:18 all have different strengths right so
01:37:22 technically technically that’s I call
01:37:25 myself a prophecy nut because when it
01:37:27 comes to prophecy you’re either right or
01:37:28 you’re not so
01:37:31 all right that makes sense hey hey they
01:37:34 don’t have to be mutually exclusive
01:37:36 though that you’ve got a point
01:37:39 it can’t it can be a and situation you
01:37:44 could be right hand enough
01:37:46 it could be an and or okay let’s see uh
01:37:52 oh come on okay so I’m gonna pause the
01:37:55 minute while you’re thinking where it’s
01:37:56 at resume okay
01:37:59 so what chapter Revelation chapter 12.
01:38:04 of course the sign in heaven
01:38:07 uh she brought forth and she brought
01:38:09 forth a man-child it was to rule all
01:38:12 nations with a rod of iron
01:38:14 and a child was caught up under God and
01:38:16 to his throne so this I do believe I
01:38:19 don’t know if we’re on the same page but
01:38:21 I believe this man child is Yeshua of
01:38:23 course
01:38:24 it’s the word of God okay I’m just
01:38:27 making sure he has to be he has to be
01:38:29 Yeshua because he rules with the rod of
01:38:30 iron
01:38:31 all right the symbolism fits I mean
01:38:35 he’s been going around with the wrought
01:38:37 iron right right well I don’t know or at
01:38:42 least they’re just talking about or at
01:38:43 least an iron or at least an iron-coated
01:38:45 wood stick yeah yeah but I I mean this
01:38:49 is Joshua just so as long we’re on the
01:38:51 same page did you want to say something
01:38:52 Zach
01:38:53 is that who rules All Nations like
01:38:55 that’s him well that’s uh so there’s two
01:38:59 people that could qualify for that
01:39:01 Yeshua or Satan right oh yeah but the
01:39:04 Satan rule with a rod of iron
01:39:07 um no he he rules with uh you know the
01:39:11 money and and fame and fear so but
01:39:16 anyways Steven yeah
01:39:19 so uh anyway I’ll have you a name yes
01:39:22 okay
01:39:26 I’m sorry it’s an obligatory question
01:39:28 these days so oh okay I I guess I didn’t
01:39:31 catch it but anyways all right have you
01:39:34 any money oh
01:39:36 um actually not very much right now uh
01:39:40 but that’s another subject and her child
01:39:42 was caught up now here’s the here’s here
01:39:45 okay so and her child was caught up
01:39:47 under God into his throne and the woman
01:39:49 fled Into the Wilderness this is the
01:39:52 woman is Zion yeah that’s the church
01:39:54 yeah
01:39:56 where she had a place prepared of God
01:39:58 well this is not necessarily just the
01:40:00 first sign
01:40:01 right well there’s a pattern here right
01:40:04 yeah where she hath a place prepared of
01:40:07 God that they would feed her there a
01:40:09 thousand two score three and 203 sport
01:40:11 days so yeah this is
01:40:14 obviously earlier than today
01:40:17 well so I think there’s a lot of things
01:40:19 going on here I do believe the man child
01:40:21 that was birthed is Yeshua and so that
01:40:24 already happened but this uh
01:40:28 the this is a prophetic number here
01:40:30 dealing with prophecy of like
01:40:33 the three and a half years or
01:40:36 um this I think this more goes along
01:40:38 with
01:40:39 um
01:40:40 the church Heidi or the remnant hiding
01:40:43 from the Catholic church right you know
01:40:46 uh what how much
01:40:48 how many days and actually technically
01:40:51 and technically that’s going to have to
01:40:54 be what happens in the last days but
01:40:56 right you know I remember we’ll have to
01:40:57 hide from the Catholic church right
01:40:59 right but on uh this so they’re in in
01:41:03 the historical one it was uh
01:41:05 uh
01:41:08 1260 years but in the future it’s going
01:41:12 to be three and a half years right three
01:41:14 and a half years yes but they both go
01:41:16 together with the numbers right right so
01:41:19 anyways yes uh okay so and here’s where
01:41:22 it’s significant and then here’s where
01:41:24 it gets significant with regards to the
01:41:27 promises of the Lamb to those who keep
01:41:29 his word there was war in heaven Michael
01:41:32 and his angels fought against the dragon
01:41:33 and the dragon fought and his angels and
01:41:35 prevailed not neither was their place
01:41:36 found any more in heaven and the Great
01:41:38 Dragon was cast out that old serpent
01:41:41 called the devil and Satan which
01:41:42 deceiveth the whole world
01:41:44 technically there one could make the
01:41:47 argument given the wording of job that
01:41:49 Satan was not cast out of Heaven
01:41:51 necessarily at the beginning
01:41:53 ah
01:41:58 Mojo brings out he was that he’s able to
01:42:01 talk with God that he’s able to talk all
01:42:03 right he goes back but he was still cast
01:42:05 down but he can still go back and talk
01:42:06 to God just right cast out doesn’t mean
01:42:09 he can’t go back okay yeah that makes
01:42:12 sense right
01:42:13 um
01:42:14 but
01:42:16 um the question is where is he talking
01:42:18 to God but anyways that’s another that
01:42:20 yeah that’s another that’s a side track
01:42:22 the old serpent called the devil and
01:42:24 Satan which deceiveth the whole world he
01:42:26 was cast out into the Earth this makes
01:42:28 that clear where he’s cast too and his
01:42:31 angels were cast out with him and I
01:42:33 heard a loud voice saying in heaven now
01:42:34 is in his angels aka the demons right
01:42:37 yes
01:42:39 um now has come salvation and strength
01:42:42 in the Kingdom of our God and the power
01:42:43 of His Christ for the accuser of our
01:42:45 Brethren is cast down which accused them
01:42:47 before our God day and night so that’s
01:42:50 Satan same language used in job
01:42:53 Satan yeah
01:42:56 and he says that he accused them before
01:42:58 our God day and night so this ha there
01:43:01 had to have been some time where people
01:43:03 on Earth where Satan could do this all
01:43:06 right so one thing I just want to say
01:43:07 the one that tempts you to say it’s okay
01:43:09 to go through these sins is the same one
01:43:12 that’s gonna go take it when you
01:43:14 uh give in to his deceptions that he’s
01:43:17 gonna go use it against you he’s not
01:43:19 your friend
01:43:21 no he’s not and they overcame him by the
01:43:25 blood of the Lamb
01:43:29 by the word of their testimony
01:43:31 and they loved not their lives onto the
01:43:34 death
01:43:35 meaning they loved God more than their
01:43:38 lives all right
01:43:40 therefore rejoicing heavens and ye that
01:43:42 dwell in them woe to the inhabitors of
01:43:44 the earth and of the sea for the Devil
01:43:45 is coming down unto you having great
01:43:48 wrath because he knoweth that he hath
01:43:50 but a short time
01:43:51 and when the dragon saw that he was cast
01:43:53 onto the Earth he persecuted the woman
01:43:55 which he persecuted the woman which
01:43:57 brought forth the man-child this is now
01:44:00 we’re about to see the protecting hand
01:44:01 of the Lord and to the woman we’re given
01:44:04 two wings of a great eagle
01:44:06 that she might fly into the Wilderness
01:44:08 into her place where she is nourished
01:44:09 for a time and times in half a time in
01:44:12 the face that’s the three and a half
01:44:14 years and the weakness this is the
01:44:16 repetition this is the three and a half
01:44:17 year repetition of the 102. hiatus
01:44:23 uh
01:44:24 technically in the word of God
01:44:28 right I I almost I I’m starting to see
01:44:30 the administration but I have gaisms on
01:44:33 the brain but anyways it’s hard and the
01:44:35 serpent cast out of his mouth water is a
01:44:37 flood after the woman again water highly
01:44:40 symbolic
01:44:42 mm-hmm
01:44:43 that he might cause her to be carried
01:44:45 away of the flood so he’s sending armies
01:44:47 after her yeah uh just like Daniel 9 the
01:44:50 the flood of the armies of
01:44:53 of Rome right where this time is going
01:44:57 to be the armies of Babylon right or
01:45:00 mystery of Babylon and whatnot and and
01:45:02 this is this is speaking of a repetition
01:45:04 of what happened with Enoch
01:45:06 and the Earth helped the woman
01:45:08 and the Earth opened her mouth and
01:45:10 swallowed up the flood which the Dragon
01:45:13 cast out of his mouth
01:45:15 yeah so that’s like uh
01:45:18 oh no I forgetting the one from Tor
01:45:22 right now where the guy that was arguing
01:45:24 with Moses and they got swallowed up at
01:45:26 the earthquake yes that’s cohath and his
01:45:29 people yes
01:45:30 um same thing’s gonna happen at the
01:45:32 second coming because of the earthquakes
01:45:33 people are gonna get swallowed up and
01:45:36 get stoned literally Stone yep and the
01:45:39 dragon and the dragon was Roth with the
01:45:42 woman and went to make war with the
01:45:44 remnant of her seed which keep the
01:45:46 Commandments of God and have the
01:45:47 testimony of Jesus Christ now I I would
01:45:50 uh make this a little stronger I would
01:45:52 say Torah yes but it’s I I know we agree
01:45:56 it’s the same thing I’m just for those
01:45:57 who are listening that’s Torah
01:46:00 yeah and so
01:46:03 the devil is going to make war on us
01:46:08 but the Lord
01:46:12 but the but that but the Lord will send
01:46:15 the Lord will send down his power in
01:46:17 abundance
01:46:19 to opening the opening the causing the
01:46:21 Earth to open her mouth and swallow up
01:46:25 the flood of people that they sent us
01:46:27 against Zion
01:46:31 Zion will be preserved in the wilderness
01:46:34 for three and a half years
01:46:36 there and the war that Satan’s make
01:46:39 against the people are those who are
01:46:40 keeping Torah and have a testament of
01:46:42 Yeshua if you’re not keeping Torah at
01:46:44 the Satan’s not Satan’s not going to
01:46:46 worry about you well not too much I mean
01:46:48 he’ll still try to drag you down some
01:46:49 more but it’s not like a big war thing
01:46:51 because you’re already kind of on his
01:46:53 side right try to drag you down deeper
01:46:56 those who do not believe that the those
01:46:58 who do not believe in the word of God
01:47:00 are already
01:47:01 on the side of the devil right
01:47:05 um well
01:47:06 good question go ahead good question
01:47:09 like
01:47:10 is that going to be much of a war right
01:47:12 now I mean there’s this doesn’t seem
01:47:14 like there’s that many people who well
01:47:17 um
01:47:19 uh or Elisha was I had this war where
01:47:23 the enemies came against him and his
01:47:25 servants like uh what Open the Eyes of
01:47:28 my servant Lord so he can see his side
01:47:31 that’s true he saw the side of the
01:47:33 angels and so this actually
01:47:36 Elisha is the mighty and strong one of
01:47:40 his day
01:47:42 which points to what’s going to happen
01:47:44 with the mining strong one and our day
01:47:46 and here is the other thing this here’s
01:47:49 the other thing that we need to realize
01:47:53 there is a wave of righteousness that
01:47:56 will come yes there will be a way we are
01:47:59 close to the end times
01:48:02 but we’re not quite we’re not quite at
01:48:05 the end of the time of Grace no in in in
01:48:08 my perception of things there is a wave
01:48:13 starting it needs to get purified
01:48:16 but people are starting to wake up to it
01:48:18 but it needs to get purified
01:48:21 yeah they’re they’re still mixing it
01:48:23 with the false traditions of men so it’s
01:48:25 it’s starting but it’s not there yet
01:48:28 yeah whether it be polygamy or Pharisee
01:48:31 roots or there’s some kind of corruption
01:48:36 with almost there’s multiple Corruptions
01:48:38 with all of them
01:48:40 um so but it it’s getting there okay
01:48:43 yeah
01:48:45 people are starting to see the need and
01:48:48 they’re looking the problem is they
01:48:50 don’t know where to look and I’ve been
01:48:52 there okay I’ve done it myself
01:48:55 um I and you’ll have to take see if you
01:48:58 believe me or not but I do believe
01:49:00 Yahweh took me out of that not knowing
01:49:03 and brought me to the written Torah
01:49:07 um because you go test these Traditions
01:49:08 to the written Torah they fail miserably
01:49:12 but when I didn’t know what else to look
01:49:14 I started somewhere okay so they’re
01:49:16 they’re just kind of what what we all
01:49:18 have done so I I understand it yeah but
01:49:22 they need to get out of it yeah I do
01:49:25 think that some of these people will end
01:49:27 up turning
01:49:32 I believe I know a few people who will
01:49:34 eventually turn to Torah no I I believe
01:49:37 I do too we just have to be patient with
01:49:39 them because the the world law is very
01:49:43 strong in many communities and so very
01:49:46 it’s very alluring because it gives you
01:49:48 things to do well right and it gives you
01:49:52 traditions of what shoe to put on First
01:49:55 and all these other ceremonies instead
01:49:59 of focusing on becoming
01:50:01 I was thinking just now that you know
01:50:05 the LDS culture as it is is very much
01:50:09 like the talmud
01:50:11 or the Jews it’s almost a direct
01:50:16 parallel I guess so so along those lines
01:50:19 there are Hebrew rooters within the LDS
01:50:23 church that actually do like the talmud
01:50:26 and the oral law and Kabbalah
01:50:30 uh so yeah I completely agree with you I
01:50:33 get kicked out of those groups because I
01:50:34 speak out again
01:50:36 um but I can speak about against it from
01:50:38 Torah and from Book of Mormon and they
01:50:40 don’t like that
01:50:41 um but those who like those Traditions
01:50:44 they like the false Traditions that
01:50:46 Brigham Young brought up and they see
01:50:48 connections to it but the problem is
01:50:50 Brigham Young’s bringing false
01:50:51 Traditions that the Jesuits Embrace
01:50:54 because well he was he got taught by
01:50:57 Jesuits so it makes sense that they’re
01:50:59 seeing that in the church because
01:51:02 uh what is it I I forget
01:51:05 is it
01:51:09 I think it’s Alma 37 38
01:51:13 in where
01:51:16 is it human that gets the records and
01:51:18 you told don’t show these wickedness but
01:51:20 they came from the same source of Satan
01:51:23 I think it is some on that range yeah
01:51:25 yeah I think I think it’s in human yeah
01:51:28 it’s a small by small things that same
01:51:31 time is it the same so that one’s going
01:51:33 to be element 37 then okay uh but
01:51:36 anyways he’s like don’t share these
01:51:39 false Traditions with other people
01:51:41 unless unless that was in 38 where he
01:51:43 says don’t share the false producers uh
01:51:45 it’s in that range we don’t have to
01:51:47 unless you really I don’t think it’s too
01:51:49 important to look for it unless you want
01:51:50 to not really
01:51:53 um I’m not that I’m not that hung up on
01:51:55 it
01:51:57 it’s it’s in that range
01:51:59 I don’t remember exactly but I it just
01:52:02 oh here we go and now my son see that
01:52:04 you do that they do not oh my son see
01:52:08 that they do not repent but they did not
01:52:10 repent oh that they did not repent were
01:52:13 they been destroyed in this far the word
01:52:15 of Ellen have been fulfilled yea their
01:52:18 secret combinations have been brought
01:52:20 out uh to Darkness and made known unto
01:52:22 us and now my son of command you that
01:52:23 you retain there all their Oaths and
01:52:25 their covenants which agreements and
01:52:27 their secret Abominations and all their
01:52:30 signs hmm they’re so
01:52:34 and their wonders shall keep them from
01:52:36 the people that they have less
01:52:38 prevention uh sorry can you say that
01:52:41 word for me
01:52:43 per Adventure her Adventure that they
01:52:46 should fall into darkness and also be
01:52:48 destroyed for there is a curse upon the
01:52:51 land and destruction okay well there’s
01:52:53 actually a really important lesson in
01:52:55 that
01:52:56 and that that what we have to be careful
01:52:59 what we share
01:53:01 because if we share
01:53:04 uh if we intentionally if we
01:53:06 intentionally share error and darkness
01:53:09 and knowledge with uh as as teachers of
01:53:12 as teachers of uh Torah
01:53:16 and we cause people to fall into error
01:53:19 because we because into errors they
01:53:21 might not have known about had we taught
01:53:23 them had we not taught them of them
01:53:25 we’ll be held accountable for that right
01:53:28 um Jacob brings out how
01:53:31 um as teachers we’re held responsible
01:53:34 for the blood of the sins unless we’re
01:53:36 very diligent in teaching them right I
01:53:39 can find it if you want and but I I’m
01:53:41 trying to find the one verse where it
01:53:43 talks about how it it came from the same
01:53:45 place right it’s somewhere in here
01:53:49 because I just saw that and then I tried
01:53:50 to search and I lost it but it was in
01:53:53 that section
01:53:55 but yeah I mean yeah it’s all good
01:53:59 yeah there’s the 20 anyways it’s there
01:54:02 uh I I don’t want to spend too much more
01:54:05 time there unless someone else really
01:54:07 I’m good okay all right
01:54:10 um
01:54:12 so I think it was a good Sidetrack we
01:54:14 can go back and read a little more in
01:54:17 the post that goes along with those same
01:54:20 pattern still if you want because
01:54:22 there’s some more and these are just
01:54:25 ones that I’m bringing out that
01:54:26 correlate more to the post it’s not the
01:54:29 whole chapter
01:54:30 right
01:54:31 right
01:54:32 um well if you take the whole chapters
01:54:33 and if you take the whole chapter now
01:54:35 we’re in now we’re cooking with some
01:54:38 grease well yeah I would well I am happy
01:54:42 to do that other than we’re getting
01:54:43 somewhat late but if you guys want to
01:54:45 stay up I’m more than happy to but let’s
01:54:48 not let’s let’s finish up what let’s
01:54:51 keep let’s keep
01:54:53 let’s stay as focused potentially as we
01:54:57 can maybe maybe yeah go ahead maybe we
01:55:00 can look at Grace next week
01:55:04 Grace
01:55:05 or you know the that stuff maybe we
01:55:08 could look at it next week oh are you
01:55:10 talking about the entire chapter of
01:55:12 first first the entire chapters of first
01:55:14 25 17 and 18. as a prophetic narrative
01:55:19 well just what you guys were just
01:55:22 referring to with the grace and all that
01:55:24 stuff you know are you talking about the
01:55:26 time of Grace
01:55:29 which is basically the time of the
01:55:31 Gentiles the reason it’s called the time
01:55:33 of Grace is because by the grace of God
01:55:35 the Gentiles are allowed to be adopted
01:55:37 into the house of Israel at this time
01:55:38 yeah yeah
01:55:41 all right it’s just an idea if you don’t
01:55:43 want to delve into that now
01:55:45 actually that’s an interesting that is
01:55:47 an interesting topic the idea of the
01:55:49 time of the Gentiles and um
01:55:53 sure put it on the list Zach
01:55:55 [Laughter]
01:56:02 so real quick let’s finish first these
01:56:05 last two passages okay that’s right so I
01:56:08 was actually writing that down you want
01:56:10 to read this one Ben
01:56:11 okay
01:56:14 the time of Grace of the Gentiles this
01:56:17 is a time of great the time of grace
01:56:19 Time of the Gentiles
01:56:24 um part of the reason is called that is
01:56:27 because they get a little more grace
01:56:28 than the Jews who were brought up
01:56:31 originally right but anyway another
01:56:34 subject
01:56:35 it’s not the time of you can just do
01:56:37 whatever you want Grace
01:56:39 no that that time of Grace that that
01:56:42 that Grace has never been yeah that that
01:56:45 question from Aleister Crowley do it
01:56:48 though that great that great ship sunk
01:56:50 off the pier
01:56:53 um that was never built what are
01:56:55 you talking about
01:56:56 I don’t know else they’re Crowley build
01:56:58 it wonderfully in a night in a nice
01:57:00 black edition
01:57:02 um I don’t know about wonderfully but he
01:57:04 did teach it but anyways let’s let’s
01:57:06 let’s go on to this verse I think
01:57:09 basically on the same page we just may
01:57:11 say it a little different yeah I think
01:57:13 so and it came to pass after we had all
01:57:16 gone down into the ship into the ark or
01:57:20 Torah and have taken with us our
01:57:22 provisions and things which have been
01:57:24 commanded us we did put forth into the
01:57:28 sea
01:57:29 you know we we left or the crosses over
01:57:33 the seed the chaos the Sea Beast and
01:57:35 we’re driven when we’re directed forth
01:57:37 before the wind Torah towards the
01:57:39 promised land eternal life so this also
01:57:41 has multiple levels
01:57:43 in the prophetic
01:57:45 um in the prophetic narrative uh both in
01:57:49 a physical sense in a
01:57:52 spiritual conversion sense
01:57:55 um and in uh
01:57:59 you know because after all there will be
01:58:02 an exodus
01:58:03 right right well so the main reason I
01:58:05 put it here in this post is it’s showing
01:58:07 that they’re
01:58:09 um
01:58:10 oh I should put this here I forgot so
01:58:14 um
01:58:15 wall
01:58:16 border
01:58:18 oops
01:58:20 [Music]
01:58:22 we are not German yeah uh no fat fingers
01:58:31 going back to jst Genesis 49 22 right oh
01:58:36 yeah yeah yeah definitely definitely uh
01:58:38 I I was just the typo maybe it’s because
01:58:40 I’m drunk
01:58:45 going over the Border as in leaving
01:58:48 Jerusalem as prophesied and Genesis 49
01:58:52 22 and yeah points us to to
01:58:56 eternal life heaven right and wind has
01:58:59 to do with the aura it is
01:59:02 the word of God yeah right which goes uh
01:59:07 with John 3 if I remember correctly
01:59:09 right with the Wind bloweth
01:59:11 no man knows yep he doesn’t know because
01:59:15 he doesn’t really know Torah right but
01:59:17 anyways uh
01:59:19 so it definitely points to what we’re
01:59:22 getting along with and what the mining
01:59:25 strong one like I said like I said this
01:59:27 fits into multiple prophetic narratives
01:59:31 oh yes yeah this
01:59:36 it goes with the language of the fathers
01:59:38 right yeah absolutely Zach you want to
01:59:41 take a turn reading this one
01:59:47 the
01:59:49 [Music]
01:59:54 the
01:59:56 yeah one’s keeping Torah
02:00:00 goes that
02:00:03 they sell the return
02:00:05 [Music]
02:00:06 the restoration
02:00:08 or Celestial Glory
02:00:12 again it has the material silver space
02:00:15 many days with the drive arrive at the
02:00:18 promised
02:00:20 land or Heaven
02:00:21 and we went for us upon
02:00:24 the land
02:00:29 [Music]
02:00:29 um
02:00:32 upon heaven and we did get our
02:00:35 resurrection and we did
02:00:38 I was just I was just confused about
02:00:39 them yeah yeah that’s fine
02:00:46 and we did call it heaven and you know
02:00:54 our journey is for the space of many
02:00:56 days
02:00:57 there it is
02:01:01 to repent right we all had enough to
02:01:05 repent even if we do or not it’s another
02:01:07 question but we all get the amount of
02:01:09 time that we need
02:01:10 even if I were to die tomorrow
02:01:13 I would have had a journey of many days
02:01:16 sure
02:01:18 right
02:01:20 um
02:01:21 I I don’t want to die tomorrow but oh I
02:01:23 prefer I prefer to live I prefer to live
02:01:26 but I I do believe I am
02:01:30 seeking to keep yahweh’s Torah so that
02:01:34 way I can have Celestial God
02:01:36 right back
02:01:38 I seek only to do the will of Yahweh
02:01:41 right and I don’t know if we want to go
02:01:45 over this but I do have a Kai as I’m
02:01:47 talking about what the celestial law is
02:01:49 and it points to Torah
02:01:51 so let’s take a look at that one anyway
02:01:55 at the at least yeah
02:01:58 um so this is DEC 76
02:02:03 um I can read for a little bit
02:02:05 and this is uh from oh I forgot to put
02:02:09 here
02:02:10 so you guys are seeing me kind of still
02:02:13 uh working through putting all these
02:02:15 little notes and I’m this is a my
02:02:18 working draft I haven’t published yet
02:02:20 but anyways DC 50-70 and this describes
02:02:25 what
02:02:26 um
02:02:27 the celestial law is that’s talked about
02:02:31 in was it Dean 88 if I remember yeah 88.
02:02:35 sometimes I get 88 and 84 mixed up
02:02:39 um but anyways
02:02:40 um You probably don’t because those are
02:02:41 84 84. the way I remember it is 84
02:02:45 govern 84 talks about the priesthood
02:02:49 88 talks about sanctification
02:02:53 okay okay I’ll try to remember that uh
02:02:56 and so communication is a requirement
02:02:58 for the celestial Glory right which is
02:03:02 and as we see here so is the priesthood
02:03:06 uh uh yes for for men right
02:03:10 um so
02:03:12 anyways uh so I’ll read for a little bit
02:03:15 and maybe we can take turns doing main
02:03:18 stanzas right yeah maybe I’ll start with
02:03:22 a
02:03:24 and again we bear record and we saw and
02:03:27 heard
02:03:28 which goes along with the statement that
02:03:31 a lot of the prophets say that they’re
02:03:32 repeated what they saw and heard right
02:03:35 yep that’s what Nephi’s saying all the
02:03:37 time yeah and all through the Book of
02:03:39 Mormon the prophets say it and this is a
02:03:41 testimony of the Gospel of the Messiah
02:03:44 concerning all those who would come
02:03:47 forth in the resurrection of the just
02:03:49 which is the resurrection of the
02:03:51 celestial Glory so it’s this or another
02:03:54 term sometimes the brigaminds will call
02:03:57 the
02:03:59 resurrection of the morning right yeah
02:04:03 uh Ben you want to do B
02:04:07 okay
02:04:08 they are they who received the testimony
02:04:11 of Jesus
02:04:13 of Yeshua
02:04:15 and believed on his character
02:04:17 and we’re baptized after the manner of
02:04:19 his burial
02:04:20 being buried in the water in his name
02:04:24 after his character
02:04:29 and this according to the Commandment or
02:04:31 Torah which he has given that by keeping
02:04:35 the Commandments or Torah
02:04:37 they might be washed and cleansed from
02:04:39 all their sins
02:04:41 and receive
02:04:44 oh
02:04:47 and received the baptism of the Holy
02:04:50 Ghost
02:04:52 of the Holy Spirit sanctification by the
02:04:55 language one thing I just want to bring
02:04:56 out though
02:04:57 um I know some of this is not exactly in
02:05:01 the verse but if you go look at the
02:05:03 other C it is talking about baptism and
02:05:05 you see the context uh it does fit even
02:05:09 without the chiasm so but anyways yeah
02:05:13 no this this is correct receive baptism
02:05:16 of the Holy Spirit sanctification
02:05:17 [Music]
02:05:19 by the lane doing on of the hands works
02:05:23 of him who is ordained and sealed unto
02:05:26 this power
02:05:31 um so the one thing
02:05:33 um e
02:05:34 is the Pinnacle of this one and it’s
02:05:36 keeping Torah
02:05:38 yep
02:05:40 there it is
02:05:42 the Commandments that that’s that’s
02:05:43 another word for Torah I I mean
02:05:46 come on
02:05:50 statute statute and commandment it’s the
02:05:53 same thing
02:05:56 let’s go look at that okay let’s go look
02:05:58 at the word statute
02:06:01 we’d like the 1828 dictionary
02:06:04 it gets rid of false traditions
02:06:07 yes and guess what it’s just a
02:06:10 dictionary of mad
02:06:14 it’s just man’s best wisdom
02:06:17 yeah I I mean I I don’t think this
02:06:19 dictionary is perfect but it is still
02:06:22 pretty good
02:06:23 man’s best wisdom is never perfect no
02:06:26 but it’s but it’s better than uh man’s
02:06:30 uh worst wisdom right so we were oh no
02:06:34 what we wanted statutes sorry
02:06:38 uh
02:06:41 no not statue statue oh yeah I’m sorry
02:06:45 spelling
02:06:46 yeah there’s a this is a little
02:06:47 difference between the statue and a
02:06:49 statute yeah well u-t-e ute
02:06:55 I’m just messing with you Stephen you’re
02:06:57 good no I hey spelling is not my strong
02:07:00 point I’m fine with that you could
02:07:02 probably write code around oh yeah I’m a
02:07:06 lot better in code in fact
02:07:08 maybe if we uh I can show you the
02:07:12 program that almost ready to publish for
02:07:13 people if we have enough time
02:07:15 um bit your brother Ben has it and I can
02:07:18 give it to in like and maybe we give it
02:07:21 to Zach before we’re done tonight but
02:07:22 anyways
02:07:23 um I’m better at coding than I am
02:07:25 spelling
02:07:27 anyway
02:07:28 definition number two definition number
02:07:31 two it’s beautiful a special Act of the
02:07:33 supreme power
02:07:37 which word is this again
02:07:42 yeah because it’s God that defines how
02:07:44 it’s supposed to be done right and it’s
02:07:46 and it’s intended to operate on all
02:07:48 individuals yeah
02:07:51 also an act of legislature of a state
02:07:53 that extends its binding Force to all
02:07:55 the citizens or subjects of that state
02:07:59 yeah all citizens and subjects of of the
02:08:03 Earth are gods
02:08:04 yeah as distinguished from an act which
02:08:07 extends only to an individual or company
02:08:09 an act of legislature commanding or
02:08:11 prohibiting something a positive law
02:08:14 right well the legislative branch of the
02:08:17 US government deals with what law
02:08:21 statutes are distinguished from common
02:08:23 law
02:08:25 instead so in other words statutes are
02:08:28 written law right common law has that
02:08:32 goes back to
02:08:34 um Britain law common law right so I I
02:08:38 don’t want to dive into those legal
02:08:39 terms but but I promise but I see
02:08:42 commandment all over I see I see the Ten
02:08:45 Commandments I see the Ten Commandments
02:08:47 of statutes uh right so so do I and that
02:08:50 that’s Torah right because Torah is
02:08:54 the basis of Torah AKA as Yeshua put it
02:08:58 hangs all the law Torah and the prophets
02:09:01 is love God
02:09:03 love Elohim and love your neighbor as
02:09:05 yourself yep and
02:09:09 um
02:09:10 that split into into five each of how
02:09:16 Yahweh wants us to perform those right
02:09:21 uh sorry that was getting long anyways
02:09:25 um go look at the list but anyways
02:09:27 um so the first five deal with how to
02:09:30 honor Yahweh and her parents which
02:09:34 represents Yahweh but anyways that’s
02:09:36 another subject and then the other five
02:09:38 have to do with how we love our neighbor
02:09:41 and then all the other ones including
02:09:44 the thousands two to three thousand in
02:09:46 the New Testament deal with how to
02:09:49 do those ten
02:09:51 for those who think the 613 false
02:09:54 tradition idea of the Jews in the Old
02:09:56 Testament is a lot people have counted
02:09:59 the laws in the New Testament it’s two
02:10:01 to three thousand and all they are is
02:10:04 expounding these ten was expounded two
02:10:07 that is Torah Torah is love it’s just
02:10:11 how
02:10:12 Elohim wants us to love not how you want
02:10:16 to do love it’s not not just not just
02:10:20 the uh not just the uh feel good
02:10:25 iffy whiffy do whatever I want hippie
02:10:28 love yeah as long as long as I say I
02:10:32 love you it’s all good right no it this
02:10:37 is we are to love the way Yahweh tells
02:10:39 us to love yeah and that is The Ten
02:10:42 Commandments and all the explanations of
02:10:45 the ten okay
02:10:48 um this is why Torah this is why Torah
02:10:51 God’s word is ever living
02:10:53 yeah in fact we are to live by
02:10:57 some of God’s words or all of God’s word
02:11:01 oh wait yeah it’s all right it’s all and
02:11:04 where now now
02:11:07 we are not if something adds to our
02:11:10 takes away from Torah it is not God’s
02:11:12 word exactly but
02:11:16 there that doesn’t mean that other books
02:11:19 have not been written expounding Torah
02:11:21 oh wait a minute like second Nephi 29
02:11:24 talking about how we’re going to get
02:11:25 more scriptures telling us how to keep
02:11:26 God’s law
02:11:28 oh yeah
02:11:31 give me the god actually wants us to
02:11:33 understand how to keep us law
02:11:34 oh yeah instead of having the multitude
02:11:36 instead of having the multitude of
02:11:38 disagreements that are currently stand
02:11:40 in the world
02:11:41 uh come on Ben
02:11:44 Ben I know I’m being a party pooper yeah
02:11:48 I like my false Revelations let me have
02:11:52 my let me have my uh Mysteries
02:11:56 yeah so DNC 84. and they shall remain
02:12:01 under this condemnation until they
02:12:03 repent and remember the renewed Torah
02:12:07 which is in the Book of Mormon
02:12:10 and what I the former would I put it
02:12:13 where I put it formally
02:12:15 Torah where I wrote them with my own
02:12:19 finger
02:12:25 yeah it’s renewed
02:12:28 just like love your neighbor is not a
02:12:30 new commandment that’s in Torah just
02:12:32 like love
02:12:33 Yahweh is all your heart might mind the
02:12:35 strength is not a new commandment it’s a
02:12:37 reason actually it’s actually recorded
02:12:39 in Torah not even not even counting the
02:12:42 rest of its knock it’s in Torah I think
02:12:45 four times
02:12:46 yeah I have some listed let’s go look at
02:12:49 the ones I have handy
02:12:52 um
02:12:53 because it’s hard to have your notes
02:12:55 completely thorough I do try to be
02:12:57 thorough but I I am only a man
02:13:01 so I I do some but
02:13:05 um
02:13:06 I’m only human that’s what they all say
02:13:10 well
02:13:11 so here’s one that I have handy
02:13:14 yep Deuteronomy six five thou shall love
02:13:18 Yahweh thy Alum with all thy heart and
02:13:21 without my soul all by might and then
02:13:25 again and then in several practically
02:13:27 everywhere where it tells them to keep
02:13:29 the Commandments It also says that doing
02:13:31 so that by doing so if they will love
02:13:35 the Lord with all their heart my mind
02:13:36 and strength right I I just I there’s
02:13:40 several places uh Deuteronomy 3 uh
02:13:46 yeah it’s multiple places this is what I
02:13:49 have handy right now because I’m trying
02:13:50 to do other things like finish that post
02:13:52 and other posts that I need to finish
02:13:54 because I never say I haven’t finished
02:13:56 post okay just fine
02:14:00 the but yeah I agree it’s it’s every
02:14:02 it’s a lot of places I don’t have them
02:14:04 all listed okay but here’s one in
02:14:07 Leviticus
02:14:08 or two in Leviticus 19 it states that
02:14:11 we’re supposed to love our neighbor
02:14:12 right yeah you want to read those ones
02:14:20 yeah yeah Zach will you read them sure
02:14:24 I shall not avenge nor bear any grudge
02:14:27 against the children of thy people
02:14:29 but I shall love thy neighbor as thyself
02:14:31 I am healthy oh wait a minute didn’t
02:14:35 Christ that was a renewed commandment in
02:14:38 the New Testament right
02:14:39 to Love Thy Neighbor
02:14:41 but anyways no no no he said it was a
02:14:43 new commandment okay yeah that’s a
02:14:45 translation issue silly yeah no I’m
02:14:49 joking
02:14:50 [Music]
02:14:53 that’s what I’ve done was a lot recently
02:14:56 but because I mean
02:14:59 I know
02:15:01 I I you know I you know that group
02:15:03 thoughtful Saints or thoughtless Saints
02:15:06 whatever you want to call it thoughtless
02:15:08 trolls uh yeah yeah Jacob’s group
02:15:12 yeah Jake Hanson’s group yeah so
02:15:17 um
02:15:17 there’s a whole bunch of
02:15:21 interesting stuff eye-opening stuff that
02:15:23 people throw out there right
02:15:25 but um
02:15:28 oh man I lost my train of thought dang
02:15:31 it so they throw some interesting stuff
02:15:34 on what
02:15:36 unthoughtless Saints but we’re right
02:15:38 that’s the group no but but what were
02:15:40 you guys just talking about I completely
02:15:41 lost my train of thought I love your
02:15:43 name
02:15:44 I love your neighbor and how it’s not
02:15:46 new
02:15:48 it’s renewed oh yeah that that reminds
02:15:51 me of what it was yeah
02:15:52 um so it seems like
02:15:56 seems like a lot of people
02:15:59 are okay with God changing
02:16:04 what his standards are what his Claw is
02:16:09 everything else like that they’re okay
02:16:12 that’s the Christian mentality right
02:16:15 yeah that’s why the thing is like it
02:16:18 directly teaches against that in the
02:16:20 Book of Mormon oh yeah look shall we
02:16:22 actually should we look at my favorite
02:16:25 one maybe even since you’re bringing
02:16:27 that up sure let’s do it so let me I
02:16:31 I’ve shared this
02:16:34 multitude of times but so here’s one
02:16:37 second Nephi 29 7-9 and guess what it’s
02:16:40 a chiasm I don’t have that on my brain
02:16:42 right
02:16:43 no not at all but no you not
02:16:47 that there are more Nations than just
02:16:50 one
02:16:51 know you not that I Yahweh your Elohim
02:16:55 have created all men
02:16:58 and then I remember all those who are
02:17:00 upon the Isles of the sea or the
02:17:03 Heartland well more than just Heartland
02:17:06 but heartland’s included there right
02:17:07 that I rule the heavens above in the
02:17:11 earth beneath
02:17:13 and I bring forth my word
02:17:15 Under The Children of Men
02:17:18 yeah even upon All Nations
02:17:21 but not some but all nations of the
02:17:25 earth were for murmur ye because you
02:17:28 receive more of my word
02:17:31 you’re complaining
02:17:34 they’re getting more Revelations that I
02:17:36 have given
02:17:37 do you really want my word if you’re
02:17:39 complaining
02:17:40 no ye not that the testimony of two
02:17:44 Nations the Bible and the Book of Mormon
02:17:46 is a witness unto you that I am Elohim
02:17:50 and remember one nation like unto
02:17:52 another I I treat all people the same
02:17:55 right this is a non-respector of persons
02:17:58 here
02:18:00 wherefore I speak the same words not
02:18:04 different but same words unto One Nation
02:18:07 like unto another
02:18:08 as in maybe not the
02:18:12 say or teach it exactly the same but is
02:18:15 teaching the same principles and
02:18:17 Concepts right
02:18:19 even
02:18:21 when two Nations shall run together the
02:18:24 Bible in the Book of Mormon in the
02:18:26 testimony of two Nations shall run
02:18:27 together Ezekiel 37 and I do this that I
02:18:32 may prove
02:18:34 that I am the same yesterday today and
02:18:36 forever
02:18:38 wait a minute what does Forever mean do
02:18:40 I need to look it up in the dictionary
02:18:41 probably not it means it means just one
02:18:44 tomorrow no it just means for until the
02:18:46 end of one Earthly rotation then the
02:18:48 next then the next creation he could be
02:18:50 different
02:18:52 oh wait I have a I have something on the
02:18:55 SE
02:18:59 um but I am the same yesterday today and
02:19:01 forever because otherwise you wouldn’t
02:19:03 be able to know if you could trust me
02:19:05 exactly exactly unto
02:19:10 eternal life and that’s from lectures on
02:19:12 faith but anyways you would not be able
02:19:14 to develop Faith sufficient onto
02:19:16 salvation yeah because
02:19:19 uh I speak the same I speak forth my
02:19:21 words according my own pleasure and my
02:19:24 own will
02:19:25 Ben you just sounded like Jacob Isbell
02:19:28 there for a minute I know well you just
02:19:31 kind of horsing around but anyways
02:19:34 and because I have spoken one word he
02:19:39 not suppose that I cannot speak another
02:19:43 for my work is not yet finished
02:19:48 yahweh’s work is not finished yeshua’s
02:19:50 work is not finished
02:19:52 what was finished on the cross was law
02:19:55 of Moses
02:19:57 anyways neither shall it be until the
02:20:00 end of man
02:20:01 but yet even after the end of the man
02:20:04 neither from that time Pence and forever
02:20:07 yahweh’s work has never ended
02:20:09 well here’s the thing here’s what I see
02:20:12 from based on several
02:20:19 the Lord Moses in the law of
02:20:21 circumcision were signs that these
02:20:23 people were prisoners well there were
02:20:25 punishments they were under punishment
02:20:27 they were prisoners they were they were
02:20:29 prisoners of sin yeah and so the the
02:20:34 fact that they had to go through these
02:20:36 things was a sign that they were
02:20:37 prisoners and so when
02:20:42 so Christ truly did preach
02:20:44 to the souls in prison
02:20:46 yeah
02:20:47 um and punishments don’t have to be
02:20:49 Eternal otherwise I would be damned
02:20:51 forever yep it’s because punishments are
02:20:54 don’t have to be Eternal that I can go
02:20:57 live with him
02:20:59 but if you lived you can live with him
02:21:01 again but if you lived during the time
02:21:03 of the execution of the punishment you
02:21:06 had to live you had to observe the terms
02:21:09 of the punishment
02:21:10 to be considered of a broken heart and
02:21:13 contrite spirit and under the law uh
02:21:15 right well on the law about this issue
02:21:19 um that was something the Levites needed
02:21:21 to do other than you can help provide
02:21:24 for the Lambs the two daily Lambs that
02:21:26 needed to be done but anyway that’s
02:21:28 another subject but on another one
02:21:31 that’s I think an important one to read
02:21:33 on that how his board doesn’t change is
02:21:35 Alma 720
02:21:37 I perceive that it has been made known
02:21:39 unto you by the testimony of his word
02:21:43 that he cannot walk in crooked paths
02:21:46 meaning they don’t change there’s it’s
02:21:49 the straight narrow versus the wide and
02:21:51 bass neither doth he vary from which he
02:21:54 has said oh so he said it before
02:21:57 he doesn’t change it
02:21:59 yeah this is his sermon to the people of
02:22:01 Gideon
02:22:04 as opposed to his Alma 5 sermon to the
02:22:07 people of zarahemla where he’s
02:22:08 commanding them okay time to read in
02:22:11 time to get baptized folks and get
02:22:13 serious about your covenants right right
02:22:15 uh Alma 5 the last verse or near the end
02:22:19 uh
02:22:21 he teaches uh re-baptism right yeah the
02:22:26 interesting thing is is that the people
02:22:27 of Gideon
02:22:29 I’m assuming that they were people that
02:22:32 the city was named
02:22:34 for people who followed Gideon out of
02:22:37 the land of Nephi
02:22:40 into
02:22:42 um he was na it was named for the great
02:22:45 for the great man Gideon the great man
02:22:47 the Gideon became
02:22:49 before he was killed by the sword by
02:22:51 napor
02:22:55 um after his repentance that’s just an
02:22:58 interesting thing this and those people
02:23:01 were more faithful than the people who
02:23:04 had stayed in the land of zarahemla
02:23:08 when they came back
02:23:10 right but that’s because they
02:23:13 went according to the word and they knew
02:23:15 it wouldn’t change right and that’s and
02:23:19 that’s what Gideon stood up for right
02:23:21 yep
02:23:22 uh because he knew nihor priest craft
02:23:26 being paid for preaching and popularity
02:23:29 right yep wrong
02:23:33 um in fact
02:23:35 um he knew it from his own experience
02:23:38 right because that’s what they did and
02:23:40 that’s basically what Noah and his
02:23:43 priests were doing priestcraft
02:23:45 right and and Alma the younger I mean
02:23:48 Elder after he left him told him that
02:23:50 priests should not be paid for preaching
02:23:53 right yep
02:23:55 um
02:23:57 which is sad because I see that
02:23:59 everywhere but anyways
02:24:01 um let’s say I forget maybe on DB and I
02:24:05 speak forth my words according to my own
02:24:06 pleasure and because I have spoken one
02:24:09 word yini not suppose that I cannot
02:24:11 speak another
02:24:12 because I I mean we don’t know
02:24:14 everything right only God does and he’ll
02:24:17 help us out with more when we’re being
02:24:19 diligently seeking after him
02:24:22 my work is I’m sorry go ahead Lord’s
02:24:25 promised us additional scripture
02:24:27 right I I mean he and second Nephi 29
02:24:31 brings that out right I mean but and as
02:24:35 we can see by the coming fourth of the
02:24:37 Book of Mormon additional scripture is
02:24:38 not contingent upon the righteousness of
02:24:40 the world
02:24:42 oh actually I I think I was reading Alma
02:24:45 seven sorry I got a little
02:24:48 yeah I got a little mixed up where we
02:24:51 were that’s my bad
02:24:53 um this is why we go by the written word
02:24:55 and not our
02:24:57 our
02:24:58 weak memories right not our not our
02:25:01 opinions not our opinions or our weak
02:25:03 memories
02:25:04 they vary from which he has said neither
02:25:08 has he has a shadow of turning from the
02:25:10 left to the right he doesn’t change not
02:25:13 even a little bit right or from which
02:25:16 that what is right to which that is
02:25:18 wrong
02:25:27 which verse is that again and that one’s
02:25:30 Alma 720. the other one was that second
02:25:32 Nephi 29 7-9
02:25:35 right and I have more and you can see it
02:25:38 on the recordings it’s
02:25:40 um I have a few
02:25:42 um so you can look at it later
02:25:46 um these are my favorite ones I’m sure
02:25:48 there’s more than the ones that I have
02:25:49 here but these are more along my
02:25:51 favorites but but once again the point
02:25:54 is is that uh scripture further
02:25:57 scriptures will be forthcoming
02:26:00 we are we we’re supposed to check we’re
02:26:03 supposed to check and make sure that
02:26:04 they measure up to the law
02:26:06 you mean like be like a Brienne or
02:26:09 Russian
02:26:10 yeah that’s right
02:26:13 they have to measure up they have to
02:26:15 measure up in the way that they teach
02:26:16 the law
02:26:17 yes they do
02:26:20 um and if they did nothing and if they
02:26:22 are do not they are not true scripture
02:26:24 that’s one of the reasons why I’m glad
02:26:26 that Zach was brave enough to share the
02:26:28 book of the nazareem and the
02:26:31 the
02:26:33 Gospel of the in the and the Blasphemous
02:26:36 Gospel of John
02:26:40 with us
02:26:43 so what are your thoughts on the book of
02:26:45 the Nazarene uh it has problems it’s uh
02:26:49 I I’m just going to I’m going to be
02:26:51 blunt
02:26:53 it’s yeah yes
02:26:58 um I would agree with that statement
02:27:01 uh it it’s bad it’s a it’s full of a lot
02:27:05 of false traditions of men okay
02:27:07 and uh well and the reason why the
02:27:11 reason why a lot of these uh the reason
02:27:13 why a lot of these Hebrew Reuters groups
02:27:16 that go into that kind of thing really
02:27:19 dig stuff like the book of the Nazarene
02:27:22 is it like the oral law they like they
02:27:25 they like the oral law they like have
02:27:28 they like having it defined for them
02:27:31 and they like Mysteries that they don’t
02:27:33 understand that’s right
02:27:36 they like knowing that this is what
02:27:38 pleases God why even though they don’t
02:27:40 know why it pleases him
02:27:42 yeah they’re they like learning and
02:27:46 never coming to the truth of Torah so I
02:27:49 know this is another side track you
02:27:50 don’t have to go down as much but I’m
02:27:52 curious are there any hippography books
02:27:54 that you guys do
02:27:57 subscribe to
02:27:59 well so a problem of books
02:28:02 um so I don’t I don’t subscribe to any
02:28:04 of them wholeheartedly right so Yeshua
02:28:07 in the New Testament answered that in
02:28:09 the DNC to Joseph Smith right there’s
02:28:11 some wisdom but uh do read them and
02:28:16 believe them with discernment as a AKA
02:28:19 testing them to Torah there’s some good
02:28:23 in them they have some history but they
02:28:26 weren’t written by Prophets
02:28:30 I mean and where they were written by
02:28:33 prophets perhaps the transcription
02:28:35 hasn’t it hasn’t been as good
02:28:38 uh down the line correct
02:28:44 estrus is written the books first and
02:28:47 second is thrusts are actually written
02:28:49 by Ezra the prophet sure uh but be wary
02:28:53 of them because they’re not copied as
02:28:55 well right right I think Maccabees is
02:28:58 interesting oh yeah it’s it’s I believe
02:29:01 the history
02:29:04 is a good it is good for histories right
02:29:07 in fact uh the Abominations of
02:29:10 desolations that Daniel talks about is
02:29:13 what’s
02:29:14 told us about in academies
02:29:16 right there and the timing works out so
02:29:21 they are good to know about
02:29:24 but also keep in mind
02:29:27 they should not be the foundation of
02:29:30 your Doctrine Scrolls
02:29:33 good to know about
02:29:36 and be good supplemental knowledge
02:29:39 but they are not your base they should
02:29:42 not be your base today
02:29:45 go ahead
02:29:47 uh I haven’t even delved into any of
02:29:49 that stuff yet but that’s fine there’s
02:29:52 enough scriptures to keep me busy right
02:29:54 now but oh yeah I probably shouldn’t
02:29:56 even dive into it myself because I have
02:29:59 too much to learn in even just the the
02:30:01 base but it once you get a good base it
02:30:05 is good to
02:30:07 Branch out some so that way you can help
02:30:10 us
02:30:12 when you Branch out you get to test your
02:30:14 discernment right right and and but with
02:30:18 them you need to be careful and take
02:30:20 into account what Yahweh said about them
02:30:22 to Joseph Smith the prophet right right
02:30:24 they’re not perfect
02:30:27 okay yeah cool I mean just I mean and
02:30:31 while the Bible also is similar and
02:30:33 while the Bible and Book of Mormon are
02:30:35 also similarly not
02:30:37 not perfect it’s not to the same degree
02:30:40 oh they’re at a much higher standard
02:30:42 than the Apocrypha because yes the Book
02:30:44 of Mormon in the format that we have it
02:30:47 now because of printer errors it’s not
02:30:51 perfect
02:30:52 but that’s printer errors not because of
02:30:53 translation errors okay
02:30:55 because the printer made some mistakes
02:30:58 along the lines but anyways that’s
02:30:59 another subject that one maybe I can
02:31:02 finish my post uh as far as it’s printed
02:31:05 correctly
02:31:06 [Laughter]
02:31:09 um
02:31:10 my my favorite Pokemon
02:31:14 is the earliest text but
02:31:17 um why I shouldn’t say buy but compiled
02:31:21 or edited by Royal Scouts and of 30
02:31:24 years studying
02:31:26 the printer’s manuscripts the original
02:31:29 or in the original manuscripts and other
02:31:32 Book of Mormon editions he just tried
02:31:35 hard to bring it back as close to the
02:31:37 original manuscript as possible and he
02:31:39 admits it’s not fully there but it’s as
02:31:41 close as he believes he can get him okay
02:31:43 yeah it’s not perfect it’s not it’s not
02:31:47 perfect but it it’s not perfect but it
02:31:49 passes this mustard it’s pretty damn
02:31:51 close
02:31:53 yeah it passes his muster
02:31:56 it does
02:31:58 um I’ll be honest I trust that more than
02:32:02 other things so yeah I mean technically
02:32:06 you know it’s uh
02:32:09 the whole thing is is all of these
02:32:11 things are supposed to be read in the
02:32:13 spirit of Prayer in communication with
02:32:15 Yahweh right and on that point even if
02:32:19 you you read a correct text with the
02:32:21 wrong mindset you’ll get the wrong
02:32:23 meaning from it so yeah yeah if you’re
02:32:26 looking to justify yourself and your
02:32:28 sins
02:32:29 you will find multiple mortal probations
02:32:33 you’ll you’ll twist
02:32:37 the word of God unto your damnation
02:32:40 right
02:32:42 um
02:32:45 I wax blunt no if you want to put off
02:32:49 your repenting to its Everlasting too
02:32:51 late
02:32:52 you will be damned forever
02:32:54 hey but but he was Lyman white in
02:32:58 another life okay so
02:33:01 um yeah you’re believing the wrong
02:33:03 people so
02:33:05 and if you believe
02:33:08 I I know and I’m just being serious with
02:33:11 it at the same time if you believe
02:33:15 uh oh I try to remember
02:33:18 Joseph Smith taught that if you follow a
02:33:21 false preacher you will get the same
02:33:23 reward of a false preacher well actually
02:33:26 that’s actually just a paraphrasing of
02:33:28 what is in
02:33:31 Ezekiel chapter yeah
02:33:35 13.
02:33:36 no I didn’t know that one
02:33:41 basically if anybody the idea is
02:33:44 paraphrased is that anybody who follows
02:33:46 the prophet of the prophets
02:33:50 anybody who follows a false prophet will
02:33:53 receive the the reward of the false
02:33:55 prophet
02:33:57 um
02:33:57 that they both receive the same reward
02:34:00 together
02:34:02 um that makes sense I’m guessing it’s
02:34:04 because of the followers slovenliness
02:34:06 and not checking them
02:34:09 sure well Ezekiel approves false
02:34:11 prophets so that we could yeah I think
02:34:14 that might be it that might be it sounds
02:34:16 like it goes on so I’m going to pause
02:34:18 for a minute while we’re looking for the
02:34:19 verse okay
02:34:22 okay so Ben uh do you want me to read
02:34:25 and you can interrupt so that way you’re
02:34:26 not always talking okay yeah that’d be
02:34:29 great on your head all right and the
02:34:31 word of Yahweh came unto me saying okay
02:34:36 this is the word of y’all wait okay go
02:34:39 forward
02:34:40 son of man prophesy against the prophets
02:34:45 or I’m going to put in false prophets of
02:34:47 Israel that prophesy and say thou unto
02:34:51 them that prophesy out of their own
02:34:53 Hearts their own Wicked Hearts here you
02:34:56 get the word of Yahweh okay so yeah
02:34:58 that’s basically where I was going with
02:35:00 that they didn’t prophesy against the
02:35:02 prophets of Israel notice that the Lord
02:35:04 in no place in in in no place in this
02:35:09 whole thing is he actually going to call
02:35:10 them false prophets he’s going to say
02:35:13 prophesy against the prophets of Israel
02:35:15 the prophesy
02:35:17 um they’re prophesying out of their own
02:35:18 hearts that clearly makes them false
02:35:20 prophets but
02:35:23 um right right I I was cut I was adding
02:35:26 commentary of what was that I think it’s
02:35:29 interesting I think it’s interesting and
02:35:31 I think we need to think about why the
02:35:34 Lord does not automatically name them
02:35:36 false prophets
02:35:39 uh why would that be
02:35:43 well I’m not saying that I’m saying
02:35:45 let’s think about it let’s think about
02:35:46 it as we’re reading through the rest of
02:35:48 this I don’t see anything to think about
02:35:49 a thinking Point okay oh you’re just
02:35:52 trying to get is to put our thinking
02:35:54 caps on yeah you mean we shouldn’t be
02:35:58 stay as babes yeah you should actually
02:36:01 be seeking to learn wisdom we shouldn’t
02:36:04 believe him
02:36:08 this is this is why this we are supposed
02:36:12 to read the scriptures in the spirit of
02:36:14 seeking there’s not supposed to read
02:36:16 we’re supposed to search to search
02:36:18 doesn’t necessarily mean okay I’m going
02:36:22 to look up all the verses that say this
02:36:24 no it means to be searching for the
02:36:27 meaning right the deeper meaning but
02:36:30 it’s searching
02:36:32 searching on other verses that say the
02:36:36 same thing is a good thing as long as
02:36:38 you’re doing the right intent to
02:36:39 understand right right
02:36:41 and not to curfew into your own heart
02:36:45 right but anyways
02:36:49 to help people do that but exactly
02:36:52 exactly and there’s nothing wrong
02:36:53 there’s nothing wrong with there’s
02:36:55 nothing wrong with Coalition and looking
02:36:58 at things that are similar and trying to
02:37:00 as long as you’re doing it for the
02:37:02 purpose of finding the truth right what
02:37:06 Yahweh stated instead of trying to find
02:37:08 a way to to satisfy your own heart right
02:37:11 yeah okay which which would then turn
02:37:14 you into a prophet of Israel that
02:37:15 prophesies according to your own
02:37:17 according to your own heart oh it’s nice
02:37:20 how we turned that back huh
02:37:25 Yahweh Elohim notice how that’s one
02:37:28 individual not to yep whoa onto the
02:37:32 foolish here he calls him foolish yes
02:37:36 that follow their own spirit
02:37:39 and have seen nothing
02:37:44 right because prophets uh tell us what
02:37:48 they’ve seen and heard and here they
02:37:49 here’s the fullest prophets false
02:37:51 prophets that are saying something of
02:37:53 that they did not see and and I think
02:37:56 that this is another thing that is
02:37:58 interesting that even if they have seen
02:38:00 something if it’s not true it’s nothing
02:38:03 right because Satan’s demons can Inspire
02:38:06 things right even if they have seen
02:38:09 something if it’s not true it’s nothing
02:38:11 right
02:38:13 o Israel
02:38:14 thy false prophets are like the foxes in
02:38:17 the desert so what if what are desert
02:38:22 foxes like
02:38:23 what if what do desert foxes do how do
02:38:25 they hunt their prey
02:38:27 they go after what is already dead they
02:38:31 they desert foxes have big ears and
02:38:34 oftentimes what they hunt are insects
02:38:36 that are under the sand
02:38:38 uh so they listen
02:38:41 they keep their ear to the ground
02:38:44 right right they’re seeing what they can
02:38:46 get away with right yes yeah and and one
02:38:51 thing that’s interesting with the big
02:38:52 ears there are they’re looking for ears
02:38:55 to tickle right exactly and if it’s
02:38:59 insects AKA unkosher unclean not keeping
02:39:03 Torah they’re hiding in the sand AKA
02:39:06 they’re picking their little pieces of
02:39:08 Torah that they want instead of the hole
02:39:11 right exactly so the here he’s he’s
02:39:15 calling them out for false Traditions
02:39:17 he’s calling them out for technical even
02:39:20 here yeah that what’s taking off
02:39:23 the Commandments of men
02:39:26 literally that’s what it is okay it’s
02:39:30 literally commitment to men
02:39:33 AK false Traditions right there’s
02:39:36 multiple names for it but anyways yeah
02:39:39 um well there’s multiple and there’s and
02:39:42 it takes multiple forms sure right right
02:39:45 you have gone up
02:39:48 you’re you’re the lead so I’m supposed
02:39:50 to help but I’m I’m probably butting in
02:39:53 too much sorry yeah yeah you’re making
02:39:56 my job easy we’ll put it down okay all
02:39:58 right ye have not gone up into the gaps
02:40:00 neither made up the Hedge for the house
02:40:03 of Israel to stand in the battle of the
02:40:06 day of Yahweh
02:40:07 so what is a prophet supposed to do what
02:40:09 does it mean to go up into the gaps
02:40:12 um for protection right yeah they’re a
02:40:16 bulwark they’re a protection
02:40:18 the Hedge is actually in desert in
02:40:24 Desert encampments they would surround
02:40:26 their they in desert towns they would
02:40:29 surround the town with a hedge which is
02:40:31 a whole right which is a wall oh wall
02:40:34 okay it’s a wall of vegetation
02:40:38 so they would surround the village
02:40:40 they’d surround the village with a head
02:40:43 the Hedge the Hedge blocks there the
02:40:46 Hedge will deflect arrows kind of like
02:40:48 The Secret Garden right yeah hey Ben
02:40:53 so did they prune the hedges a lot of
02:40:58 many small villages right right right
02:41:00 gotcha gotcha
02:41:02 yeah but so basically these guys are not
02:41:07 let’s relate this back to Doctrine and
02:41:09 Covenants section 101 they have not
02:41:11 raised a tower
02:41:13 they have not built the Hedge
02:41:17 yeah I remember that we have a recording
02:41:20 on that right yep yep and we’re we’re
02:41:23 not talking about Doctrine and Covenants
02:41:24 101 is prophecy we’re talking about it
02:41:26 in relation to this so uh to Ezekiel to
02:41:29 Ezekiel 13. so go down
02:41:35 uh go down as you want me to read the
02:41:37 next verse or no no oh sorry yeah yeah
02:41:39 uh so neither made a okay yes but next
02:41:43 first we just read five so the next
02:41:46 verse okay they have seen vanity and
02:41:49 lying
02:41:50 divination okay so what so this is now
02:41:55 you see why I said even if they have
02:41:57 seen something if it was not true right
02:42:00 right
02:42:01 because vanity is out of their own heart
02:42:03 and lying
02:42:05 well that’s all I should we I don’t
02:42:08 think we need to look at the definition
02:42:09 of lying right but lying divination is
02:42:13 basically they’re telling you that all
02:42:15 it’s that whole peace peace
02:42:19 all would be a piece well divination has
02:42:22 to do with sorcery right yeah the nation
02:42:25 has to do with telling the future
02:42:28 from demons demons telling them to you
02:42:31 which is actually against Torah and
02:42:33 lying is showing that it’s not true
02:42:35 right right and so here they’re saying
02:42:38 they’re breaking Torah because they’re
02:42:40 doing divinations listening to Demons
02:42:42 who are lying right yeah
02:42:46 and they’re claiming that Yahweh saith
02:42:49 Yahweh hath not set them they have not
02:42:54 made others to hope that they would
02:42:56 confirm the word
02:42:58 oh
02:43:00 and they have made others to hope that
02:43:02 they would confirm the word
02:43:04 the Lord Yahweh hath not sent them
02:43:07 and they have made others to hope that
02:43:10 they would confirm the word so this is
02:43:12 talking about the false prophets making
02:43:15 other people’s believe it as in their
02:43:18 hope the people are hoping for what the
02:43:21 false prophets are preaching right
02:43:23 exactly
02:43:25 not how much of this do we see in the
02:43:27 world today
02:43:28 uh
02:43:30 uh the majority of the world
02:43:33 99.99
02:43:34 and I would say that the majority of
02:43:37 Israel
02:43:38 yeah
02:43:39 yes are in that place as well
02:43:43 most uh Israel are not following Yahweh
02:43:47 today sadly that’s true
02:43:50 whether whether they be open whether
02:43:53 they be living in the land of Israel or
02:43:55 whether they be still in a standard in a
02:43:59 scattered State well and then on top of
02:44:01 that even the Messianic Jews
02:44:04 they they do believe Yeshua is the
02:44:07 promised Messiah but the problem with
02:44:09 messianics they still believe in the
02:44:10 false traditions of the Orthodox
02:44:12 Pharisees that’s right which Joshua
02:44:15 called out right but they’re still
02:44:17 believing in those lives yep and so we
02:44:20 go to verse 7.
02:44:22 have you not seen a vain Vision meaning
02:44:25 a false vision and have ye not spoken a
02:44:28 lying divination listening to the lying
02:44:30 demons
02:44:31 whereas you say Yahweh saith that I’ll
02:44:35 beat it I have not spoken it so you’ve
02:44:37 allowed these people are taking the name
02:44:39 of the Lord in vain yes in the words of
02:44:42 demons in the mouth of yelpie
02:44:49 um yes that’s taking the lord’s name in
02:44:51 vain
02:44:52 um yeah okay so a z
02:44:55 therefore said Yahweh Elohim because you
02:44:59 have spoken vanity and have seen lies
02:45:03 therefore behold I am against you
02:45:07 said Yahweh Elohim
02:45:11 so
02:45:15 so he’s against the prophets because
02:45:17 they speak vanity they’ve seen lies
02:45:20 which means that’s interesting now if
02:45:22 you take a look at that lies equals
02:45:25 nothing
02:45:30 yeah it does it lies does equal nothing
02:45:33 because it’s
02:45:35 it’s nothing I I I don’t know a better
02:45:38 way to say that right yeah lies equals
02:45:42 nothing yeah
02:45:43 because the same words word word
02:45:46 association
02:45:48 nothing seen lies
02:45:53 uh I’m just starting to see a chiasm but
02:45:56 anyways I’ll read number nine and mine
02:45:58 hath
02:46:00 and so this is like in mine hand shall
02:46:04 be upon the prophets that see vanity so
02:46:07 these lying prophets my Works shall be
02:46:10 against them right and that the Divine
02:46:13 lies or the divining lies that they
02:46:17 shall not be in the Assembly of my
02:46:19 people AKA excommunicated either on here
02:46:23 on on Earth or taking their names out of
02:46:26 the book of life right or both neither
02:46:29 shall they be written in the writings of
02:46:31 the House of Israel AKA they’re not
02:46:33 going to be in the Holy writings of you
02:46:36 know my word they believe he’s struck in
02:46:38 from the they will be stricken from The
02:46:40 Book of Life and excommunicated from the
02:46:42 church and they people won’t know what
02:46:46 they said neither shall they enter into
02:46:49 the land of Israel that says deep deep
02:46:53 meanings especially when you consider
02:46:56 the
02:46:57 oh
02:47:00 this is to a people in captivity they
02:47:02 shall never re-enter the lamb
02:47:04 right the ones that were prophesying
02:47:07 that stuff right
02:47:09 yep they shall never re-enter the land
02:47:11 they shall never enter Heaven
02:47:14 they shall never enter the Lord’s rest
02:47:18 they took his name in vain
02:47:21 like all the pretended money and strong
02:47:23 ones today yep
02:47:26 okay so this is actually just reproof of
02:47:29 prophets in general that’s not the one
02:47:31 that’s about
02:47:33 um but yeah but that’s still been useful
02:47:37 to read oh yeah I still I still think it
02:47:40 applies to what we’re talking about yeah
02:47:42 but I I think that I think there’s
02:47:45 another and there is another one in the
02:47:47 Ezekiel
02:47:48 that talks about prophets and listening
02:47:51 to profits and their rewards okay so I’m
02:47:53 gonna pause it while we’re looking some
02:47:55 more okay okay
02:47:58 so Ben found what he was looking for
02:48:01 um you want me or Ben to read
02:48:05 no I mean um you’re Ben do you want me
02:48:08 or Zach to read I’m silly okay Zach Zach
02:48:12 you want to read
02:48:13 sure
02:48:14 [Music]
02:48:17 next verses start in verse we’re going
02:48:20 to go through verses one through five I
02:48:22 want you to read one through the one
02:48:24 through five and I’ll interrupt as need
02:48:26 be
02:48:27 okay
02:48:29 then came certain of the others of
02:48:31 Israel unto me and sub before me okay so
02:48:34 these are the Elders of Israel
02:48:36 they’re coming on to they’re coming to
02:48:38 Ezekiel for a word from the Lord
02:48:40 okay
02:48:42 so what do you want to say the Elders of
02:48:44 Israel are the the leaders of the church
02:48:46 right yep yeah it’s the leaders of the
02:48:49 church which is just the same thing that
02:48:51 goes along with acts 15 the elders it’s
02:48:54 the church but anyways we’re the leaders
02:48:57 okay so verse two
02:49:00 the word if Yahweh come unto me saying
02:49:03 look at verse 3. son of man these men
02:49:08 have set up their idols and their hearts
02:49:10 their heart but and put the stumbling
02:49:13 block of their iniquity before their
02:49:16 face
02:49:17 should I be inquired
02:49:19 of At All by them okay
02:49:22 so here he is here they are he says
02:49:25 these men have set up their Idols in
02:49:27 their hearts in other words they’re
02:49:28 worshiping any way they want to they’re
02:49:30 not worshiping according to my waste
02:49:33 uh the the stumbling block of their
02:49:36 iniquities
02:49:38 so their sins are causing them to
02:49:39 stumble right yeah they’re standing up
02:49:42 to yahweh’s face because it’s getting
02:49:43 really bad and he’s like
02:49:47 should I be required should I be
02:49:50 required to answer them at all
02:49:52 he’s seriously asking this question
02:49:55 and why do you think that is
02:50:00 um well I I can come up with a couple
02:50:03 verses from from the Tanakh that uh if
02:50:07 you pray to me but you don’t want to
02:50:09 keep my Commandments your prayers and
02:50:11 Abomination unto me yes your prayer is
02:50:13 an Abomination their prayers are an
02:50:14 Abomination because of their iniquities
02:50:16 yeah
02:50:18 but I shared some today but but in fact
02:50:22 I found a new one uh today from The Book
02:50:24 of Mormon that says that but anyways and
02:50:27 here and here’s actually another verse
02:50:29 that actually plays into the what we
02:50:30 were talking about earlier this earlier
02:50:32 tonight go ahead and read verse four
02:50:37 therefore speak unto them and saying to
02:50:39 them thus saith Yahweh Elohim
02:50:42 every man of the house of Israel
02:50:45 that setteth up his idols in his heart
02:50:47 and puteth his stumbling block
02:50:50 there was iniquity before his face and
02:50:52 cometh to the prophet I the Lord what
02:50:54 has will answer him that cometh
02:50:56 according to the multitude of his idols
02:50:59 because they loved not the truth they
02:51:02 were given strong delusions yeah
02:51:07 yeah
02:51:10 not the god they were actually asking
02:51:12 they were actually asking for strong
02:51:13 delusions so he gave him what they asked
02:51:15 for right it’s not that God lies
02:51:18 it’s just men
02:51:22 when people when people when we don’t
02:51:25 follow Yahweh we’re getting to the
02:51:27 bounds we’re lying we’re lying when we
02:51:30 approach him right and and because of
02:51:33 that uh Satan is able to get his
02:51:36 tentacles upon us and we
02:51:40 when we’re early in it we think it’s
02:51:43 from Yahweh because we don’t know any
02:51:44 better because we’re not doing
02:51:45 Discerning and doing our testing of the
02:51:47 spirits
02:51:48 and then we get caught up in it and
02:51:50 bounded it more we end up liking it or
02:51:53 we think we can’t get out of it right
02:51:58 and here’s the last verse verse 5.
02:52:02 that I may take the house of Israel and
02:52:05 their their own heart
02:52:07 because they are all estranged for me
02:52:09 through their idols
02:52:12 so this is all about idolatry
02:52:15 if you approach the Lord and are engaged
02:52:19 in idolatrous practice including
02:52:22 celebrating holidays inspired by Satan
02:52:25 AKA pagan holidays like Christmas and
02:52:28 Easter your prayers are an Abomination
02:52:31 and uh
02:52:33 and the Lord will and the Lord will not
02:52:35 answer you but will allow the devil to
02:52:37 lie to lead you with lies
02:52:40 all right well you’re bound by if you’re
02:52:42 doing those things which are sin you’re
02:52:44 bound to him right and you’re not bound
02:52:46 to Yahweh yep
02:52:50 so this whole section here is about
02:52:51 idolatry
02:52:54 wow so I think you said you want to do
02:52:56 six through eleven also yeah if you
02:52:58 would read if you would read the verses
02:53:00 for that Stephen sure therefore saith
02:53:02 unto the house of Israel thus saith
02:53:04 Yahweh Elohim repent
02:53:07 and turn yourselves from your idols
02:53:10 and turn your way
02:53:12 turn away your faces from all your
02:53:15 Abominations not just some of them but
02:53:18 all of them yes exactly that’s the point
02:53:21 and so this like I said these are
02:53:23 separate but related points
02:53:26 because up here in verses verse five
02:53:29 you’re they’re awful situation is being
02:53:31 revealed to them
02:53:33 because of their idolatry which they are
02:53:37 in because of their idolatry and now
02:53:39 he’s telling them turn yourselves from
02:53:40 your idolatry and your Abominations
02:53:42 right well and I I want to bring out the
02:53:44 it’s all your Abominations and not it’s
02:53:46 just one or two like false prophets
02:53:49 claim well just let go of your pet sin
02:53:52 let go of the let go of the one that’s
02:53:54 hardest for you to do
02:53:56 Yahweh never says that he always says
02:53:59 repent of all your sins not just your
02:54:03 pet sin okay and that’s what I was
02:54:04 trying to get at but anyways yep
02:54:06 absolutely agreed agreed
02:54:10 for every one of the House of Israel or
02:54:13 of the strangers that sojourn in Israel
02:54:16 so everybody
02:54:17 uh which separateth himself from me so
02:54:22 even the strangers right they’re not so
02:54:25 strange that this is just probably we
02:54:27 could look it up but this is probably a
02:54:28 translation of Gentile but anyways yeah
02:54:31 I I would expect so yeah but anyone who
02:54:35 has separated themselves from Yahweh and
02:54:39 set us up his idols and his heart
02:54:42 it doesn’t even have to be out physical
02:54:45 your people can see it right it can just
02:54:47 right in his own heart
02:54:49 and puteth the stumbling block of his
02:54:52 iniquity before his face and cometh to a
02:54:56 prophet to inquire him concerning me I
02:54:59 Yahweh will answer him by myself
02:55:07 that’s an interesting phrase right there
02:55:10 I the Lord will answer him by myself
02:55:12 anybody who does this I the Lord will
02:55:15 answer him by myself but there’s a
02:55:18 there’s some punctuation there which
02:55:20 tells me the idea is not finished yet
02:55:21 right and then also
02:55:24 um you don’t need to go through a
02:55:26 prophet the choir Yahweh right yeah
02:55:29 you shouldn’t
02:55:31 there’s a place for it well yeah the
02:55:34 prophet can receive the prophet can
02:55:36 receive Revelation from the Lord but you
02:55:38 shouldn’t necessarily have to go through
02:55:40 them to receive all of your daily
02:55:42 communication right right well they’re
02:55:44 they’re and this is where we may need to
02:55:46 get a little more context to know what’s
02:55:47 going on here but for uh
02:55:50 the one that pops in my head is that the
02:55:52 daughters of The Man Without a son
02:55:56 I forget his name but the daughters went
02:55:58 unto Moses what about our father right
02:56:01 we don’t want his name to disappear
02:56:03 because he didn’t have a son and Moses
02:56:06 then took it to Yahweh and Yahweh gave
02:56:08 the answer that was something that was
02:56:10 out of their domain to get the answer
02:56:12 for right yeah that was and then the
02:56:15 answer was literate law
02:56:17 right
02:56:18 a little leverage marriage
02:56:20 uh no it was just they have to marry
02:56:23 someone within the tribe Leverett is
02:56:25 yeah oh yeah that’s right that’s right
02:56:27 liver lost someone else that was the one
02:56:30 yeah I don’t remember the name for it
02:56:32 but they had to marry someone within the
02:56:33 tribe so it can keep in the father’s
02:56:35 name but anyways okay now okay yeah yeah
02:56:37 something else you’re right right
02:56:41 but anyways
02:56:42 um so there’s a place for it but this is
02:56:44 where you know Joseph Smith stated that
02:56:49 um related as Joseph has stated that you
02:56:51 depend upon Him Joseph Smith too much
02:56:53 right you need to go to the Lord
02:56:56 yourself this is where it can be a
02:56:58 tricky balance right but anyways
02:57:02 okay now verse 8 is necessary to finish
02:57:05 the idea in verse seven okay and I will
02:57:08 set my face against that man and I will
02:57:12 make him a sign and a proverb and it
02:57:16 will cut him from off the midst of my
02:57:18 people that ye shall know that I am
02:57:19 Yahweh so this is talking obviously he’s
02:57:22 setting up his hardness in his heart an
02:57:25 idol in his heart yep and he’s then
02:57:28 trying to go find a false prophet to
02:57:29 tell him that it’s okay right pretty
02:57:32 much and uh the Lord says that he will
02:57:34 visit him himself by cutting him off
02:57:37 right uh meaning he won’t go into heaven
02:57:40 unless he repents right yep of course
02:57:43 later on in the Book of Ezekiel we find
02:57:46 that the repentance Center can always
02:57:48 find
02:57:50 um Redemption right and that’s I’m just
02:57:52 throwing that in there and that’s true
02:57:54 with job also oh not job uh Jonah I mean
02:57:58 uh where it didn’t always explicitly
02:58:01 state it but at near the end of the book
02:58:04 Jonas comes out and say I knew you’re
02:58:06 going to do this right I knew
02:58:09 that you would let it slide if they
02:58:11 repented and that’s why I didn’t want to
02:58:12 go right so it’s it should be implicit
02:58:19 though sometimes it’s nice to make it
02:58:21 explicit right
02:58:24 meaning it people should know that but
02:58:27 sometimes we should specifically say it
02:58:29 right yep so I think nine
02:58:34 yep nine and if the false prophet be
02:58:38 deceived when he hath spoken a thing I
02:58:41 Yahweh have deceived
02:58:43 that profit I think it would be more
02:58:45 allowed that profit to be deceived we’d
02:58:48 have to go right this is where we did
02:58:50 this is where there’s a translation
02:58:52 issue yeah this is translation
02:58:55 um and I will stretch out my hand upon
02:58:57 him and destroy him for in the midst of
02:58:59 My People Israel so this is where you
02:59:02 know Deuteronomy 13 18 false prophets
02:59:04 will be destroyed right the Lord says
02:59:06 that he will bring false prophets to a
02:59:08 public
02:59:09 and disgraceful end right here
02:59:13 yes and he allows false prophet to
02:59:15 happen is to test us right yes people
02:59:18 will love him
02:59:20 or Satan or our own Hearts right yep
02:59:24 that’s right verse 10 okay and they
02:59:28 shall bear the punishment of their
02:59:30 iniquity the punishment of the false
02:59:33 prophet shall be even as the punishment
02:59:35 of him that seeketh unto him ah there is
02:59:40 any more clear than that that’s the one
02:59:46 we wanted anyone who follows a false
02:59:49 prophet receives the reward or
02:59:51 punishment of that Prophet they too will
02:59:56 be
02:59:57 destroyed from the midst of My People
03:00:00 Israel cut off from the midst of my
03:00:03 people
03:00:05 yeah yeah that’s plain as day
03:00:08 unless you’re blind
03:00:11 anyways well unless
03:00:13 unless you want to believe that this
03:00:16 punishment only applies to their false
03:00:18 prophet and not your false prophet well
03:00:21 this is all false prophets but
03:00:24 this is not people this is how people
03:00:26 wriggle their way out of
03:00:28 plain statements well right but I said
03:00:31 well that is their false prophet my
03:00:35 profits not a false prophet even though
03:00:37 he says things which aren’t poor which
03:00:39 have no basis in Torah whatsoever and he
03:00:42 has done false prophecy but that’s okay
03:00:44 right right he would just was mistaken
03:00:49 but he shouldn’t have claimed it was in
03:00:51 yahweh’s voice right it was a false
03:00:55 prophet
03:00:56 get over it
03:00:57 stop listening to them and move on and
03:01:00 find a true one right at least a true
03:01:03 teacher if not a true property right but
03:01:04 anyway I’m Torah
03:01:07 right back to their written word boy the
03:01:10 true teachers will take you and help you
03:01:12 learn Torah yeah
03:01:15 um so go find a true teacher yes that’ll
03:01:19 teach you Torah so they just got a good
03:01:21 point I should have added in the hotel
03:01:23 right I’ll read 11.
03:01:27 that the house of Israel may go no more
03:01:29 astray after me
03:01:32 so no more from me go straight get go
03:01:35 away for me right yes be polluted
03:01:39 anymore with all their transgressions
03:01:41 their sins but they may be my people
03:01:45 because now they’re keeping Torah and
03:01:48 then I may be their Elohim
03:01:54 so the point is the reason why he’s so
03:01:59 the reason why the Lord is so strict
03:02:01 against not only lying false prophets
03:02:05 but the people who believe in them
03:02:09 I know some people don’t think that
03:02:11 that’s fair but it is well because they
03:02:14 well Revelations bring out how those who
03:02:16 love a lie or believeth a lie
03:02:19 are damned it’s the same thing here it
03:02:22 is same same teaching just in different
03:02:24 words right yeah yourself or believed it
03:02:28 from somebody else
03:02:30 that’s right
03:02:31 and the point is and the point is is
03:02:35 God wants a people
03:02:38 who want to be like him
03:02:41 yeah
03:02:43 he wants if they’re willing to belong to
03:02:46 give everybody Celestial Glory the
03:02:48 problem is not everything
03:02:50 if we want
03:02:56 to follow a lie
03:02:59 we don’t
03:03:00 want
03:03:03 we do not want Yahweh for our God
03:03:06 well because he’s not God of lies he’s a
03:03:08 god of Truth and we do not want
03:03:14 to be like him
03:03:16 therefore he will cut you off from among
03:03:20 the people and appoint you your place
03:03:22 and Portion with the Hypocrites in outer
03:03:25 Darkness where there will be weeping and
03:03:28 gnashing of teeth I know I will add
03:03:32 Torah yahweh’s law teaches us how to be
03:03:35 like him
03:03:37 yes
03:03:39 which is how he wants us to love him and
03:03:43 others and sometimes that loving of
03:03:46 other people is saying things that they
03:03:48 do not want to hear right because
03:03:52 um we want them
03:03:54 to be like Yahweh and that means telling
03:03:58 them
03:03:59 when they’re doing something wrong
03:04:01 right
03:04:03 you know stupidity is still and
03:04:05 stupidity is just as stupid no matter
03:04:07 who’s doing it now those who really want
03:04:09 to follow Yahweh want to know
03:04:13 when they’re not falling always ways now
03:04:16 uh you should do it by quoting
03:04:19 scriptures and not your
03:04:22 so-called personal Revelations that are
03:04:25 not that actually contradict Torah
03:04:28 or Revelations
03:04:31 and in many instances you can find
03:04:34 sources of those personal Revelations on
03:04:36 the internet and right you should do it
03:04:40 according to the confirmed written word
03:04:43 of Yahweh
03:04:46 which
03:04:48 includes tutora
03:04:50 Torah to knock which is the Old
03:04:52 Testament the New Testament The Book of
03:04:54 Mormon most of the DNC right but anyways
03:04:59 and many of the sayings of the Prophet
03:05:02 Joseph Smith many of them
03:05:05 correct just be careful with those
03:05:07 because there’s a lot of false ones out
03:05:08 there but yes there are there are some
03:05:10 good confirmed ones because there’s some
03:05:12 I like and there’s a lot that I don’t
03:05:13 but anyways yeah the Brigham might the
03:05:15 brighamites did a really good and did a
03:05:17 crack job of inventing Joseph Smith
03:05:19 quotes oh yeah especially 50 after the
03:05:22 year years later from a someone who was
03:05:24 a six-year-old when Joseph Smith was
03:05:26 alive right but anyways
03:05:29 but clearly he remembered all the way up
03:05:32 to that time it was yeah when he was six
03:05:34 50 years later what a joke and I picked
03:05:38 some colors on purpose it was it what it
03:05:40 was it must have been a really memorable
03:05:42 experience that’s all I’m saying yeah
03:05:45 go ahead Zach is that the one it’s
03:05:49 Quakers on the moon
03:05:51 uh that’s one of them but they’re
03:05:52 they’re there’s a ton that fit into that
03:05:54 category to be honest but anyways pretty
03:05:57 much anything that defends polygamy
03:06:01 um yeah that’s one of them but
03:06:05 pretty much any bunch of various
03:06:07 categories but those are a good one good
03:06:10 examples yeah
03:06:12 but I you should uh if you get a chance
03:06:16 you should listen to my commentary on
03:06:18 Joseph Smith’s live stream and showing
03:06:20 how it’s very prophetic
03:06:23 including bringing out what the images
03:06:24 mean from the scriptures and how it fits
03:06:28 imagery that’s going on but anyways I’ll
03:06:31 put a link in the notes if you want to
03:06:32 watch it
03:06:34 um yeah yeah I I think that’s uh I I
03:06:36 think
03:06:38 I think that’s a really important thing
03:06:40 for our considerations that
03:06:44 the Lord takes very seriously our
03:06:47 commitment to truth
03:06:49 to the truth
03:06:50 and if we will be diligent in
03:06:56 being a Berean or rutzian on it right
03:06:59 yeah
03:07:01 well I’m using that term that people are
03:07:04 using to make fun of me I’m using it in
03:07:06 a positive note I actually think it I
03:07:08 know they’re using it to make fun of me
03:07:10 but it I like it because it’s like it’s
03:07:13 red Korean come on I I take that they’re
03:07:16 using they’re you they’re using it to
03:07:18 belittle those who spout ideas similar
03:07:21 to yours well I don’t know what is that
03:07:24 what is that anyway what’s a Berean
03:07:26 a Berean
03:07:28 Paul wrote a letter to a group of people
03:07:31 a group of saints in Berea praising them
03:07:34 because they questioned his words
03:07:37 against the scriptures well I don’t know
03:07:39 if I would say question they tested yeah
03:07:42 yeah sorry not question it’s it’s acts
03:07:45 17 right
03:07:46 yeah I think so they didn’t sit there
03:07:50 and say oh these are the words of a
03:07:52 prophet so we must follow them yeah so
03:07:55 in in this chapter it does look like
03:07:57 it’s this one they they it talks about
03:07:58 how they believed him while he was
03:08:01 preaching and they were and he was there
03:08:03 with them but uh in the evening they
03:08:07 went home and tested his words against
03:08:10 the Old Testament which was the
03:08:12 scriptures of their day
03:08:14 yeah so and they found them to be
03:08:18 um incongruence these were more noble
03:08:21 than Thessalonians but they received the
03:08:23 word with all Readiness of mine like
03:08:25 they they were ready to believe it right
03:08:27 and then search the scriptures dailies
03:08:30 whether those things were so
03:08:33 that’s a Berean they searched the
03:08:35 scriptures to see if what their teachers
03:08:40 and people are using that as the
03:08:42 diminutive yeah they’re they’re they’re
03:08:44 calling me and people like me Redskins
03:08:51 but I take I turn into a compliment
03:08:53 because they’re I’m turning into like
03:08:55 being like a Berean there you go
03:08:59 no I I you know I don’t think half the
03:09:02 time
03:09:03 the people who put down
03:09:06 the Torah observant I don’t think they
03:09:08 know what they’re saying
03:09:10 uh no they just like they have no light
03:09:12 in them then they don’t really know what
03:09:13 they’re saying because they don’t have
03:09:15 any lighter understanding they just know
03:09:17 that they don’t want to keep the law
03:09:22 they don’t want which doesn’t change
03:09:25 according to Joseph Smith The Book of
03:09:27 Mormon Yahweh it’s just all over it
03:09:29 doesn’t change
03:09:31 it’s all the over yeah I said a
03:09:36 swear word to put some emphasis on it
03:09:37 it’s everywhere his ways do not change
03:09:44 that’s not that’s not taking the lord’s
03:09:46 name in vain
03:09:49 is yahweh’s name
03:09:53 no
03:09:55 it’s always named
03:09:58 no I can check the dictionary but it’s
03:10:01 not
03:10:02 no
03:10:03 I mean this is the question that I ask
03:10:06 people to get all up in the buggy when
03:10:08 they when I say something
03:10:09 well
03:10:11 I I don’t think we should swear every
03:10:14 other word but when they’re when there’s
03:10:16 a time to put some emphasis on it I do
03:10:18 think it’s appropriate
03:10:20 um so anyways in fact Yeshua used to
03:10:23 whip at time to and Yeshua actually kind
03:10:26 of made fun of people too so there’s a
03:10:29 place in time for it it’s not every
03:10:31 other word okay no
03:10:34 but if the if you um
03:10:37 if it’s something that actually
03:10:40 will add to the meaning
03:10:44 I do it to put emphasis on yeah that’s
03:10:47 it that’s adding now draw emphasis too
03:10:51 something to what you’re saying
03:10:53 it creates uh you can use it to create
03:10:57 um emotional content
03:10:59 I I’ve had people tell me they fill the
03:11:01 spirit while I’m swearing because I’m
03:11:02 doing an appropriate way but anyways
03:11:04 yeah no I’m just saying there’s lots of
03:11:07 reasons there’s lots of reasons
03:11:09 to intelligently cuss yeah Yeshua got
03:11:13 angry
03:11:14 and guess what the scripture says slow
03:11:16 to anger not never get angry so I these
03:11:19 are these people take things out of
03:11:21 context and they don’t know not only
03:11:23 that not only that but then but that but
03:11:25 not only that but then they take
03:11:27 something that is in the scriptures and
03:11:28 then blow it all out of proportion so
03:11:30 that it’s like okay see nobody can live
03:11:32 this
03:11:33 here’s a question for you how many days
03:11:36 or how many years did he see people
03:11:38 money changing in the temple before he
03:11:41 did anything about it
03:11:42 uh uh eight and a half yeah I’d say
03:11:47 that’s pretty slow to anger
03:11:50 wow there’s multiple aspects to that
03:11:53 event some of it has to do with that
03:11:55 they wrongly judged him and because in
03:11:58 Torah and I’ll give you the link in the
03:12:00 notes that it actually does state that
03:12:03 whipping someone is a result of them
03:12:06 wrongly judging you so there’s multiple
03:12:10 aspects to what was going on there
03:12:11 according to Torah yeah well the thing
03:12:14 is is most of the people most of the
03:12:16 money changers in the temple were direct
03:12:19 underlings of the Sadducees
03:12:21 uh and the Pharisees they’re both kind
03:12:24 of together well the Pharisees were less
03:12:26 likely to be openly connected to their
03:12:28 money changers
03:12:30 okay because that was because
03:12:34 that would make them appear worldly
03:12:37 yeah but they benefited because
03:12:43 yeah they did
03:12:45 that’s why the money changers were
03:12:48 always that’s why the money changers
03:12:49 were always short changing
03:12:51 right because they were pocketing it and
03:12:54 then some of that what they pocketed had
03:12:55 to go to this adjectives and the
03:12:57 Pharisees who were running the temple
03:12:58 right so
03:13:01 um they the Pharisees Pharisees didn’t
03:13:03 get Kickback no way got kicked back no
03:13:06 one was saying that they weren’t openly
03:13:08 connected to it that the world could see
03:13:10 good point I don’t know I think
03:13:13 everybody knew they were getting it but
03:13:15 anyways that’s another subject I I don’t
03:13:18 think it matters too much yeah you’re
03:13:20 right I’m probably gonna cut at this
03:13:22 point
03:13:23 yeah I think it’s a I think
03:13:25 I think we’ve I think we’ve had a good
03:13:27 meeting tonight all right yeah so let’s
03:13:29 pause for a minute
03:13:32 if I can find the button button don’t
03:13:34 push my buttons
03:13:37 okay
03:13:39 so with the Fourth of July coming you’ll
03:13:42 just kind of like find this kind of
03:13:43 interesting also the fact that
03:13:46 shavio Pentecost has not happened yet
03:13:50 it’s about to happen if you go according
03:13:52 to my calculations it’s going to be on
03:13:55 the 16th
03:13:57 so it’s a couple it’s a couple weeks off
03:14:00 from the Fourth of July but you take
03:14:03 into account that the Gregorian calendar
03:14:04 is not in alignment with yahweh’s lunar
03:14:07 solar calendar you got to give some
03:14:09 leeway here right but anyways you can
03:14:12 see
03:14:13 Pentecost how we go is on the 16th okay
03:14:17 and it’s interesting that con the
03:14:21 constitution in the United States
03:14:22 represents
03:14:24 our country’s law right and it’s
03:14:28 interesting to me that it gets the
03:14:30 timing is close to Pentecost shall we go
03:14:33 which is when Israel’s
03:14:36 yahweh’s people got their law slash
03:14:39 constitution of what they’re supposed to
03:14:42 live by
03:14:43 both in the time of Moses right and at
03:14:47 the time of Christ
03:14:48 right
03:14:49 but the thing is here I I think this
03:14:53 kind of shows that this false tradition
03:14:56 that Pentecost
03:14:57 is earlier in the year is somewhat of a
03:15:01 modern thing because here’s the founding
03:15:04 fathers doing the constitution of or the
03:15:08 law of their land at the same near
03:15:11 around the same time that Yahweh give
03:15:14 his law
03:15:16 for his people
03:15:18 around the same time now we’d have to go
03:15:21 look in 1776 and I’m not going to do
03:15:23 that right would it be interesting what
03:15:24 are the other thing to be interesting is
03:15:26 to see um
03:15:28 in what month the Magna Carta was signed
03:15:31 uh I actually I don’t know what that is
03:15:34 that’s actually the uh that’s actually
03:15:37 one of the founding documents of uh one
03:15:41 of the founding documents of modern
03:15:42 British rule oh okay it was was it not
03:15:46 heavily barred from with the
03:15:48 constitution of the U.S yes yes okay all
03:15:51 right yeah I know a lot of times
03:15:55 uh Independence independences uh that
03:15:59 sounds funny in South America happened
03:16:02 around this time too so there’s a lot of
03:16:05 countries where they sign into law the
03:16:08 the law of their land around this time
03:16:13 which is interesting because
03:16:16 it goes along the time when Yahweh gave
03:16:18 his law right so
03:16:22 uh uh well in in 1776
03:16:27 it’s two weeks out off just like it is
03:16:30 right now I don’t know if you can see
03:16:31 that so yeah there’s the fourth
03:16:34 and then there’s Pentecostal vote right
03:16:38 so it’s the two-week topic still but it
03:16:41 it varies back and forth right just
03:16:44 because of the
03:16:45 the issue of the Gregorian versus the
03:16:48 lunar solar calendar
03:16:50 um and the thing that most people think
03:16:54 ever because most people are
03:16:57 attuned
03:16:59 to um the Gregorian calendar they think
03:17:02 that they they think that um
03:17:05 Sabbath is more changeable
03:17:08 in the lunar and the Looney solar
03:17:11 calendar truth of the matter is the
03:17:13 Looney solar Sabbath is the most
03:17:15 constant measurement
03:17:17 yeah but well the Sabbath and the lunar
03:17:19 solar calendar is always on the seventh
03:17:21 day
03:17:22 and it’s never changed and it’s governed
03:17:25 by the lights in heaven just like in
03:17:27 Genesis 1 14 and 16 but anyways so like
03:17:31 I said like I said it is the most it’s
03:17:35 the action what’s actually happening is
03:17:38 the Gregorian calendars floating all
03:17:40 floating around all over God’s cap yeah
03:17:43 it is and on top of that it’s changed a
03:17:47 whole bunch of times that most people
03:17:49 don’t know about and guess what Saturday
03:17:52 the day that these Hebrew rooters claim
03:17:55 the Sabbath is used to be the first day
03:17:58 on that calendar
03:18:01 if you’re using God’s calendar I mean
03:18:04 man’s calendar you’re going to be all
03:18:05 messed up just look at the Gregorian
03:18:07 calendar it is messed up it’s been
03:18:13 corrected
03:18:14 modified multiple times through history
03:18:17 including what days of the week came
03:18:20 first so so basically that means that
03:18:25 when these people who say oh it doesn’t
03:18:28 matter what day you celebrate
03:18:30 um the Sabbath or whatever
03:18:33 um you know they think that God would
03:18:35 think that to a certain degree they’re
03:18:37 true it doesn’t matter which day they
03:18:39 celebrate the Sabbath they’re wrong well
03:18:41 yeah well that gets kind of tricky
03:18:45 because it it doesn’t matter in what day
03:18:47 of the Guardian calendar so that’s what
03:18:50 I’m talking about I’m talking about the
03:18:51 Gregorian calendar
03:18:54 but honestly it does matter what day you
03:18:58 celebrate right it but it matters
03:19:00 according to always calendar it’s just
03:19:03 been out to the people who
03:19:07 um
03:19:08 who who are going off a Gregorian
03:19:10 calendar and they say it doesn’t matter
03:19:12 right because on the Gregorian calendar
03:19:15 to a degree they’re right they’re wrong
03:19:16 either way right right because here here
03:19:19 ‘s an old Gregorian calendar
03:19:22 uh just before Constantine right
03:19:26 Saturday was the first day the sickle
03:19:29 and Sunday the Rays
03:19:31 was the second
03:19:34 um
03:19:35 because Constantine fancied himself the
03:19:38 Sun God he had to raise Sunday to the
03:19:40 first day yeah and he demoted Saturday
03:19:43 to the last
03:19:45 and that was like 325 A.D give or take
03:19:48 right I think it was
03:19:50 yes yeah anyways yeah see at that point
03:19:53 he had already been baptized uh yeah
03:19:57 sure
03:20:01 just goes to show that you can’t baptize
03:20:04 a pagan and have him not be Pagan yeah
03:20:06 yeah so here April Fools started when
03:20:11 Gregorio Pope gorion tried to change the
03:20:13 start of the Year from Spring to Winter
03:20:17 and those who didn’t want to follow uh
03:20:21 that tradition from the Catholic Church
03:20:24 uh we’re called fools that’s how April
03:20:26 fools was started because April was more
03:20:29 in line when it should have started
03:20:31 right but anyways
03:20:33 yeah that’s how April Fool’s got started
03:20:36 now I have uh links on that so those who
03:20:38 think this calendar is of God the
03:20:40 Gregorian don’t know their history
03:20:44 so and most of the more most of them
03:20:47 aren’t interested in finding out no they
03:20:49 just they’re Hebrew rooters and it’s the
03:20:51 seventh day on the calendar that they
03:20:53 see on their wall which is not just
03:20:56 it’s not just Hebrews like it’s it’s
03:20:59 yeah yeah
03:21:03 there’s some more awake Christians that
03:21:05 will do that but they get it from the
03:21:08 faults or you know false traditions of
03:21:10 the sageties and Pharisees but still
03:21:12 most of them still put the day starting
03:21:15 in the evening instead of the morning as
03:21:18 the Book of Mormon and Bible teaches
03:21:20 yeah it doesn’t make that doesn’t make
03:21:22 sense wow
03:21:24 anyways I’m just telling you what’s out
03:21:27 there I know I know but it still doesn’t
03:21:29 make sense and you know what I find even
03:21:31 more sad is I have a post on that
03:21:34 completely based on the Book of Mormon
03:21:37 and people who believe in the Book of
03:21:38 Mormon reject it I’m like I do you not
03:21:41 believe the Book of Mormon
03:21:43 anyways
03:21:45 but this one on the morning
03:21:47 tomorrow or the morning it’s based on
03:21:49 the Book of Mormon showing in the
03:21:52 morning
03:21:52 not only do they reject it but they get
03:21:54 really rude about it oh yeah they do
03:21:58 it’s it’s
03:21:59 there’s one that will actually be kind
03:22:01 of nice like well thank you for your
03:22:03 opinion Stephen so there’s one that is
03:22:05 kind of nice about it but most of them
03:22:07 get kind of rude about it because they
03:22:09 love their false Traditions they don’t
03:22:11 want to let go of it
03:22:13 even those who claim to believe the Book
03:22:14 of Mormon they won’t let go of it
03:22:18 well this is this is one of the reasons
03:22:20 why I say you know
03:22:22 even the people who claim to believe in
03:22:24 Joseph Smith
03:22:27 really know set out to kill him yeah
03:22:30 they don’t like what he taught
03:22:34 so
03:22:35 anyways it goes along with the Book of
03:22:38 Mormon and the DNC not all these
03:22:42 weird statements that someone remembered
03:22:45 50 years later when they were six when
03:22:47 he said it
03:22:49 yes and some of them having to do with
03:22:51 the priesthood how
03:23:00 anyways hey it was a different time okay
03:23:04 different time yeah they did things
03:23:07 differently back then right
03:23:10 no I
03:23:13 I well you know at least here’s my
03:23:16 problem and the one of the other
03:23:18 problems that I have is all these people
03:23:20 who want to justify not baptizing their
03:23:23 children when they’re eight years old
03:23:24 when the Lord specifically set that
03:23:25 aside as the time for children under the
03:23:28 Covenant to be baptized
03:23:30 yeah so let’s let’s go look at that
03:23:35 um
03:23:36 that’s 17 right I think if I remember
03:23:39 right
03:23:41 uh 17 of what
03:23:43 Genesis
03:23:46 Joseph Smith translation Genesis 17 yeah
03:23:49 yeah does that mean that I should take
03:23:51 my son to be baptized in the LDS Church
03:23:54 um no
03:23:57 oh yeah there it is for thou mayest know
03:24:01 Forever Wait a minute what does Forever
03:24:03 mean again I don’t know anyway it means
03:24:07 it means until he has his next mind
03:24:09 change there’s some kind of nebulous
03:24:11 time concept I think I don’t know
03:24:15 oh we’re horrible are not accountable
03:24:18 before me until they’re eight years old
03:24:20 wait where there’s that eight years old
03:24:23 Thou shalt observe to keep all my
03:24:26 Commandments wherein I have covenanted
03:24:28 with thy fathers and oh wait there’s
03:24:31 those ancients again their ancestors man
03:24:35 it seems like there’s these patterns
03:24:36 that they were baptizing their kids at
03:24:39 eight years old and nobody was
03:24:41 questioning whether the kids could
03:24:42 actually absorb Torah
03:24:48 it’s like I was raised to be I was
03:24:51 raised to be an idiot and so all kids
03:24:54 are idiots
03:24:55 uh I think you’re getting a little over
03:24:58 passionately on that one uh yeah
03:25:00 probably but yeah kids can understand
03:25:03 the Jews teach their their children when
03:25:06 they’re young so can we I I mean come on
03:25:09 this is those are just false excuses
03:25:13 because of our culture right but Thou
03:25:16 shalt keep the Commandments which I have
03:25:18 given thee
03:25:19 with thine own mouth and I will be a
03:25:23 judge unto thee and dicey after the
03:25:28 so because circumcision was given the
03:25:33 circumcision was a teaching tool to help
03:25:35 them remember to baptize their children
03:25:37 at eight years old so here’s this part
03:25:39 where it ties it to circumcision right
03:25:41 yeah um but I do believe it
03:25:45 um this happened later as a punishment
03:25:48 okay because they weren’t baptizing when
03:25:51 they were supposed to
03:25:53 and also how they were supposed to and
03:25:56 that’s what this part up here gets into
03:25:57 and so I do think he tied into adultery
03:26:03 because
03:26:05 um well Abraham’s line had a problem
03:26:08 with that where Jeff Roseline did not
03:26:11 right but anyway
03:26:13 yeah also what they were doing that
03:26:16 brings up here is adultery it’s
03:26:19 spiritual adultery which mentioned up
03:26:21 there above
03:26:24 what what commandment is adultery
03:26:27 opposite having no other gods before me
03:26:29 yeah oh actually you know I wasn’t
03:26:31 sharing the screen sorry guys I I didn’t
03:26:34 hit my buttons so I’m sorry so let me so
03:26:38 here’s the kids to be uh accountable
03:26:42 when they’re eight right
03:26:43 jst 17 and then here’s where it talks
03:26:46 about it’s uh tied to circumcision and
03:26:50 then here’s is tied to the adultery AKA
03:26:53 going after false gods okay
03:26:58 um which is why I think they’re they
03:27:00 well I divide it to the physical organ
03:27:03 of adultery but anyway I do believe that
03:27:07 um
03:27:08 I do believe the polygamy was a
03:27:10 tradition that came from adult
03:27:12 idolatrous peoples yeah
03:27:15 um Sarah
03:27:18 um got Abraham to do it because of the
03:27:21 false Traditions that she grew up in and
03:27:24 she didn’t happen she didn’t have the
03:27:25 faith so she fell back onto the false
03:27:29 traditions of her fathers because she
03:27:32 didn’t have enough faith right and we
03:27:34 know that Abraham’s we know that
03:27:36 Abraham’s fathers had fallen into
03:27:39 idolatry right a quick question with the
03:27:42 with the situation with Jacob
03:27:45 was that fall under
03:27:47 uh he was tricked and he didn’t have
03:27:50 I I would say it was tricked by his
03:27:53 father-in-law Laban and he didn’t
03:27:58 there could be a couple things one he
03:28:01 didn’t want to disgrace the first
03:28:04 um daughter because back then I mean
03:28:07 even even today divorce is kind of
03:28:09 especially for women is still kind of
03:28:12 like yeah I don’t know right I’m not
03:28:15 always willing to date a divorced woman
03:28:17 but a lot of men are not
03:28:19 and so I think he partly showed pity on
03:28:23 the uh but at the same time I think also
03:28:26 part of it was he didn’t have enough
03:28:27 courage to do what was right also yet
03:28:33 one of the things that’s noted about
03:28:35 Jacob throughout the scriptures is he’s
03:28:38 a bit of a coward
03:28:40 I think I I think he’s uh what I’ve what
03:28:44 I’ve realized or what I think is who is
03:28:47 uh
03:28:48 I I don’t know if I’d use the word
03:28:50 coward I think he’s very passive
03:28:53 passive yeah that could I think he’s a
03:28:55 little more passive because like look at
03:28:57 like for example
03:28:59 um
03:29:01 he was always trying to defuse the
03:29:03 situation if that makes sense well the
03:29:04 whole thing with that I noticed with
03:29:07 Jacob is a great deal of impulsiveness
03:29:10 yeah yeah especially right he’s and he
03:29:16 he had some bad habits initially right
03:29:18 as we all have
03:29:20 I mean I’ve had my bad habits right
03:29:24 um so
03:29:26 um I just noticed there’s some things in
03:29:28 the scriptural account that I noticed
03:29:30 some flaws and Jacob and it’s it doesn’t
03:29:32 make him any less no just like patriarch
03:29:37 I was just uh I still believe he’s the
03:29:39 prophet he just went through learning
03:29:41 just as we do right right in fact it
03:29:44 should actually increase our faith right
03:29:47 because uh you know that God men
03:29:51 can be raised yeah because Jake we all
03:29:55 know the flaws of Jacob they’re right
03:29:58 there in black and white
03:30:01 today’s false prophets try to hide all
03:30:04 their faults right it means we can
03:30:07 change uh-huh
03:30:11 it means we can it means what I am today
03:30:15 does not have to be who I am
03:30:21 what I am doing today does not have to
03:30:23 Define who I am
03:30:26 right we can repent and be born again
03:30:28 become a new creature
03:30:32 and so
03:30:34 and so I I find the store I actually
03:30:37 find a great deal of strength and um
03:30:41 inspiration and the stories of the
03:30:43 Patriarchs yeah and they also have a lot
03:30:47 of deeper meanings to help us point us
03:30:49 to Yahweh so
03:30:51 um
03:30:52 I
03:30:54 they were learning just as we are and so
03:30:58 well I we’ve had different sins than
03:31:00 them but that’s fine as Ben brings out
03:31:03 it shows that we can overcome them right
03:31:06 no I 100 agree I was just curious what
03:31:09 your thoughts were on on yeah I’m on
03:31:12 Jacob’s case well Jacobs for sure it was
03:31:16 because of the deception of Laban right
03:31:18 that it happened uh I do think Jacob has
03:31:21 some fault to bear
03:31:24 um well you see it in this family
03:31:26 they’re ripped up and torn up for years
03:31:30 yeah well his grandpa did it right
03:31:34 Abraham
03:31:35 um because of his wife Sarah but uh so
03:31:39 do you see the false Revelation known as
03:31:42 DNC 132 claims that Isaac committed
03:31:45 polygamy no he did not
03:31:47 there’s no way there’s no record of it
03:31:49 in scripture yeah he’s the only place
03:31:52 you might find a record of it is in
03:31:54 talmud
03:31:55 which is false traditions of men right
03:31:58 right
03:31:59 um also
03:32:01 in faults 1 32 DNC 132 also claims Moses
03:32:06 if I remember correctly and Moses did
03:32:08 not practice polygamy either no that
03:32:11 that’s just more of misunderstandings of
03:32:16 how different people are called or in
03:32:18 different groups of nationalities are
03:32:21 called by different people well here’s
03:32:23 another here’s another interesting thing
03:32:24 the story of Abraham actually shows
03:32:27 repentance from polygamy right it does
03:32:32 he put away his second what and why did
03:32:35 he put away the only time in that entire
03:32:38 story where God actually says anything
03:32:41 he tells him to put away
03:32:44 right if it was caught if Yahweh told
03:32:47 Abraham to do it why would you Yahweh be
03:32:50 saying get rid of her
03:32:52 he wouldn’t be doing that
03:32:56 and so Abraham we all know that God
03:32:59 changes his mind right he does things
03:33:01 differently yeah you’re you’re reading
03:33:03 the wrong Bible again there
03:33:06 Alistair Crowley you need to burn that
03:33:09 Bible
03:33:11 and it’s only partially joking
03:33:14 what the only part the only part that’s
03:33:17 joking is where he where he actually the
03:33:20 only part that’s joking is where he
03:33:21 assumes that you have one yeah I know
03:33:23 you don’t have an Aleister called the
03:33:25 Bible
03:33:26 but if you do have one burn it yeah burn
03:33:30 it I’ll show you the verses for burning
03:33:32 that garbage
03:33:34 there I have one two three four
03:33:39 uh well I’ll do passages one two three
03:33:41 four five passages that teach that and
03:33:45 it starts some Torah in Genesis and
03:33:48 exodus and Deuteronomy
03:33:50 um and the last one I have is an ax
03:33:53 right
03:33:54 so so so this is a message this is a
03:33:58 continuous message uh-huh
03:34:02 yeah
03:34:03 go burn that stuff that you’re called
03:34:05 and wickedness and yeah because burning
03:34:09 has to do with judgment it was in fact
03:34:12 the one thing I like a connection with
03:34:14 Daniel is it was the writing on the the
03:34:17 wall says you were judged and found
03:34:19 wanting right just like those false
03:34:22 traditions of men yep that’s that’s why
03:34:25 they were burned they’re judged but
03:34:27 anyways
03:34:29 um so I’m somewhat joking someone
03:34:31 serious
03:34:32 um but yeah go burn that stuff yeah
03:34:38 it yeah if you yeah included in that
03:34:42 occult stuff it has to be anything from
03:34:43 avraham giliadi
03:34:46 uh yeah he teaches uh Kabbalah New Age
03:34:51 mysticism from
03:34:54 Satan it’s well yeah the
03:34:58 yeah Kabbalah becomes uh a cult at the
03:35:03 Deep at the deepest levels
03:35:06 oh I wouldn’t even say the deepest level
03:35:07 even the surface levels of the vehicle
03:35:09 it’s a cult well I would say almost on
03:35:13 the surface level a plot it appeals
03:35:15 because it’s more
03:35:17 um it’s more Mystic we’re right that’s
03:35:20 where people are always learning and
03:35:21 never coming to the truth they’re
03:35:23 Addicted by Mysteries it’s not true
03:35:25 right and so when I the occult is Mystic
03:35:31 put into a ceremony
03:35:34 you know
03:35:37 yeah like
03:35:39 um
03:35:40 like a temple ceremony
03:35:43 I might be uh I I might be referencing
03:35:46 something along those lines
03:35:49 well I’ll I’ll say it yeah I I am
03:35:52 directly
03:35:53 yeah and uh there’s a couple of posts I
03:35:56 need to finish along those lines but
03:35:57 anyways and actually most plays and
03:36:00 movies are are actually a cult or
03:36:02 actually occult rituals yeah yeah I I
03:36:06 you can spot that out better than I can
03:36:08 but yes I am aware of that
03:36:11 um yeah when the when it’s uh supposed
03:36:14 to supposedly a story thing
03:36:19 and they’re doing something in the film
03:36:21 that’s fantasy
03:36:26 Yeah
03:36:27 the more
03:36:30 I I think the depending how dark it is
03:36:32 but the more darker ones will play that
03:36:35 out including Harry Potter yep
03:36:41 yeah I don’t watch or read that stuff
03:36:44 anymore I used to be big into it and
03:36:46 then
03:36:47 realized hey that stuff is actually real
03:36:50 yeah so I’m gonna pause okay

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3 Nephi (LDS 23:14) (RLDS 11:1) And now it came to pass that when Jesus had expounded all the scriptures in one, which they had written, he commanded them that they should teach the things which he had expounded unto them.

Scripture Study 2023-07-02

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