Scripture Study 2022-12-01

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Meditation in the Hebrew scriptures is to think about YHWH’s law / Torah. Meditation in eastern tradition is to empty ones mind which makes you defensless against doctrine of demons. What is the Spirit not always striving with men mean? 120 jubalees is 6000 years. 40 jubalees is 2000 years. Satan says did YHWH say that? YHWH uses whole range of language when He talks to us. In the parable of the talents the servant hid his talent in the domain of Satan. A thought regarding the sacrament with regards to not getting drunk and how it applies spiritually. Start reading and expounding 2 Nephi (LDS 2). Bring out the gospel from YHWH’s holidays. Lehi likened to Moses, Nephi likened to Joshua. Charity is keeping the law / Torah. Love is keeping a promise not feelings. Talk about the pure love of the Messiah. All adults are given the Spirit of Christ aka law / Torah. All YHWH’s laws / Torah is both spiritual and temporal. Talked about the David Whitmer’s letter An Address to All Believers. Talked about Book of Mormon translation. Talked about Broken Heart and Contrite Spirit. Yeshua was born during Tabernacles. Talked about endless punishment. Talked about Wool and Linen. Talked about the Kosher laws. Word of Wisdom and how it is not to be constrained. LDS / Brighamite church used to say that Word of Wisdom included hot chocolate and hot soup. LDS / Brighamite leaders used to teach we are to keep the kosher laws. Joseph Smith drank beer and coffee. We should eat meat sparingly all the time.

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00:00:00 foreign
00:00:01 okay so one thing I
00:00:07 I just in fact I did a little post on
00:00:09 this but I didn’t get into real depth oh
00:00:11 actually it’s looking Mormon let’s go
00:00:14 get the Kindle I want
00:00:16 I like the earliest text Edition better
00:00:19 I’m gonna get that open
00:00:22 um
00:00:31 oh I was
00:00:32 uh not to Sidetrack on this but I was
00:00:35 working on one of my posts actually I do
00:00:39 try to finish them even though I I
00:00:41 always get sidetracked but
00:00:44 oh on one I was looking at First
00:00:47 Timothy four
00:00:49 and because I was finishing my
00:00:51 meditation portion in the post we can go
00:00:54 that I was working on that we can talk
00:00:55 the Eternal round post yes yes anyways
00:01:00 but I put 15 I hate it when it does that
00:01:03 I don’t I put this in it but I was
00:01:05 making sure there was no jst in it but
00:01:07 another thing I noticed that I didn’t do
00:01:09 because it would take too much and too
00:01:11 much of a Sidetrack this whole chapter
00:01:12 is a chiasm yeah
00:01:15 yeah that’s okay that’s just cool but
00:01:18 anyways I I didn’t fill it out because
00:01:19 it takes time to do that and I I need to
00:01:22 finish the post so I focused on that
00:01:24 instead but since we’re talking about um
00:01:28 I
00:01:30 I didn’t put all these in but
00:01:33 since we’re just talking about that post
00:01:34 no I’m I’m finding out what you’re
00:01:37 talking about in terms of
00:01:39 um
00:01:43 posts being hard to finish
00:01:45 because I’m trying to I’m trying to
00:01:48 actually just kind of write out
00:01:51 my thoughts write out the thoughts that
00:01:55 have been that right out of post about
00:01:58 that mystery that was shown to me in
00:02:00 those verses
00:02:01 which the one that we might go over
00:02:04 about a scene
00:02:06 yeah yeah okay yeah
00:02:09 it it takes time doesn’t it to really
00:02:11 well yeah things yeah and to think it
00:02:14 through and try to get to the point
00:02:16 where you’re
00:02:20 you’re at
00:02:21 yeah where you’re satisfied the people
00:02:23 will actually understand what you’re
00:02:25 saying yeah so when you’re prepared
00:02:29 Yahweh can give you something in an
00:02:31 instant right yeah but then when you try
00:02:34 to give that to someone who’s not
00:02:35 prepared
00:02:36 that’s hard
00:02:38 yeah yeah
00:02:39 you’re seeing that more huh anyways so
00:02:42 here
00:02:44 I’ve been doing kaizens for meditations
00:02:46 and I’m not and I oh we could go over
00:02:50 these two when I was well the thing is
00:02:53 the thing is is it’s very it’s very
00:02:56 evident that meditation is this that
00:03:00 some some that meditation is meant I
00:03:03 mean meditation is mentioned in the
00:03:05 scriptures but it’s not Eastern
00:03:07 meditation no it’s not that it’s not
00:03:09 that um
00:03:12 emptying your mind makes it so you can
00:03:16 save you more yeah empty number one and
00:03:19 number one empty in your mind is an
00:03:21 actual impossibility uh correct but it
00:03:24 makes it so you don’t have yahweh’s
00:03:27 words to guard against saints well it
00:03:30 does quite it does say clearly that you
00:03:34 are to meditate on the law oh yeah it
00:03:37 does in fact First Timothy 4 even I mean
00:03:40 go look at the context system above it
00:03:43 but meditate upon these things not
00:03:46 emptiness or nothing but the things I
00:03:48 was just
00:03:52 yeah I I’ve been a little
00:03:57 working on the meditation little part
00:03:59 and you know look you can see I went and
00:04:03 looked through things and I found
00:04:04 chiasms all over a lot of most of them
00:04:07 are in Psalms but they’re in a lot of
00:04:08 places and I I just anyways and this
00:04:12 one’s not necessarily Kaizen but you
00:04:14 have to keep it so this one’s
00:04:15 interesting Luke 21 14 especially with
00:04:18 the King James uh translation is not the
00:04:21 best but berean’s better but anyways
00:04:23 settle it therefore in your hearts not
00:04:26 to meditate before what you shall say
00:04:28 but when you go read the context I think
00:04:30 it makes more sense but this right this
00:04:33 little glyph or note here Yahweh will
00:04:35 give you what to say in a moment
00:04:38 right
00:04:39 that he says that a lot throughout the
00:04:42 scriptures
00:04:43 yeah
00:04:44 so I mean that’s what I’ve had that I’ve
00:04:47 had that happen to me a lot
00:04:49 well that means you’re listening so
00:04:53 no that’s a good thing I I take I try to
00:04:58 I try to be quiet sometimes and
00:05:04 that’s partly why I model this off of
00:05:08 Moroni six nine
00:05:10 yeah I
00:05:12 I work on post right
00:05:14 despite maybe it’s not obvious right now
00:05:17 that I do
00:05:19 so yeah I do well I mean it’s uh there’s
00:05:22 an awful lot of work that goes into
00:05:24 something that just
00:05:26 appears to just appear
00:05:28 yes and you’re like you said you’re
00:05:31 seeing that more
00:05:32 um but
00:05:34 as I’m studying I’m learning things and
00:05:36 then sometimes I go down rabbit holes
00:05:38 that are not necessarily related to the
00:05:41 pose but I anyways
00:05:44 um but here when people come with
00:05:46 questions
00:05:49 I say what’s given to me because I’ve
00:05:51 done the preparing before where most
00:05:54 people even in the Hebrew Roots area
00:05:57 they’re following the Pagan tradition of
00:05:59 having something pre-planned
00:06:02 and going off of that instead of going
00:06:04 off the spirit of what is needed in fact
00:06:06 I’m just I’m going to show this verse
00:06:09 because this is a big deal for me
00:06:10 because this is how I go look through
00:06:12 all my recordings this is how I’ve been
00:06:14 doing it for a long even before I
00:06:15 started recording I started recording
00:06:17 because someone asked me to
00:06:20 um which sadly they
00:06:22 then they never came and really watched
00:06:23 them but I think it’s a good thing I did
00:06:25 start recording them but
00:06:27 and their menus were conducted by the
00:06:30 church after the manner of the workings
00:06:31 of the spirit in the Moment by the power
00:06:34 of the Holy Ghost which that’s Torah
00:06:36 right for the Torah LED them whether to
00:06:40 preach hurt you know the holy spirit
00:06:42 because listening to the people and then
00:06:44 that coming to their mind
00:06:46 like Yeshua promised them with the first
00:06:49 comforter which is for
00:06:51 to exhort or to pray or to supplicate or
00:06:54 to sing even so it was done it was in
00:06:56 the moment to think of what to do and so
00:06:59 I that actually brings up something sure
00:07:01 go ahead uh one of the primary reasons
00:07:04 why people say the Holy Ghost cannot be
00:07:07 the law
00:07:09 is because
00:07:13 it is stated in Scripture that the Holy
00:07:15 Ghost will not always strive with man
00:07:17 now the law is always there
00:07:23 it’s not striving with men when they’re
00:07:26 breaking it
00:07:30 that’s I mean that’s
00:07:34 with man but it’s so but it’s always
00:07:37 there it can’t I I’m but the just to
00:07:40 finish the objections that it’s always
00:07:42 there it is not capable and therefore is
00:07:47 not I mean it’s just there it’s not
00:07:50 capable of choosing not to work with men
00:07:52 or not to strive with man no it’s men
00:07:56 choosing not
00:07:58 agree with them and so some of this is
00:07:59 going to be translation issues but let’s
00:08:01 just go look at the word strive yeah
00:08:04 let’s take a look at that
00:08:07 I don’t like dictionaries
00:08:12 especially 1828 I never did yeah this is
00:08:16 unusual to me
00:08:19 a strive
00:08:23 to make effort to use extortion to use
00:08:27 exertions yeah exertions so when men
00:08:30 aren’t listening I mean
00:08:32 it’s not gonna
00:08:34 when their heart is hardened they’re not
00:08:37 gonna
00:08:38 make convert
00:08:40 and the law is going to have no effect
00:08:43 on them right
00:08:45 uh they won’t endure
00:08:48 to Endeavor with earnestness Endeavor
00:08:51 yeah
00:08:52 um labor hard they won’t be working and
00:08:56 they become lazy
00:08:59 it’s those who are seeking to keep the
00:09:03 law are the ones that are more diligent
00:09:05 and laborers I mean you
00:09:09 look at
00:09:11 uh
00:09:12 primarily Catholic countries compared to
00:09:16 to Eastern countries or mysticism or you
00:09:20 know Buddha or though or India
00:09:23 compared to Protestant countries
00:09:26 right which ones have the better
00:09:28 standard of living it’s the Protestant
00:09:31 ones they have their own unique problems
00:09:34 right
00:09:35 um oh yeah yeah
00:09:38 Protestants generally speaking are more
00:09:40 prone to self-righteousness
00:09:44 um
00:09:45 yeah but they they’re also try a little
00:09:48 more to try to keep the law
00:09:50 um or they’re christianized version of
00:09:54 it or what they think it should be right
00:09:56 right but my main point is here they’re
00:09:58 putting forth more effort which uh goes
00:10:01 wrong with um ether 12. I’m gonna so the
00:10:05 question so the so the quest is so you
00:10:08 would render that particular idea not
00:10:11 the law not that the spirit ceases to
00:10:14 strive with man but man ceases to strive
00:10:16 with the spirit
00:10:17 yeah
00:10:19 it’s like
00:10:22 did Joshua forget you
00:10:24 or do you know or does Joshua not know
00:10:27 you
00:10:28 right and actually in if you look at the
00:10:32 if you look at the particular Parable
00:10:36 that talks about that it it could go
00:10:39 both ways well I can give you an example
00:10:42 in the Book of Mormon where it states it
00:10:43 in a couple verses both ways right
00:10:48 to me that’s a technicality that
00:10:52 um
00:10:54 if
00:10:57 especially when you take it what known
00:10:59 means in scriptural language it’s the
00:11:01 intimate relationship
00:11:03 right right
00:11:04 that’s a two-way road so it really to me
00:11:08 doesn’t matter if it’s
00:11:10 going this way or that way right right
00:11:13 opinion yeah that does yeah that doesn’t
00:11:17 matter so much it’s the same
00:11:20 um
00:11:21 the with the striving
00:11:24 and when it talks about the spirit will
00:11:28 not always strive with the spirit of God
00:11:30 the spirit will not always struggle with
00:11:32 man hold on hi Christian
00:11:36 hello
00:11:40 hello
00:11:44 Christy
00:11:49 sorry no that’s fine
00:11:53 um
00:11:54 we’re talking about striving with men
00:11:57 like the Holy Spirit and
00:11:59 um so actually let’s go back to the
00:12:01 dictionary and we’re recording too but I
00:12:04 think Zoom poor warns yeah Authority
00:12:07 started
00:12:08 um
00:12:09 doing that I think does it does it tell
00:12:12 you we’re Court recording when you get
00:12:13 on
00:12:16 as soon as you do so if you’re not
00:12:19 paying attention to the screen then uh
00:12:21 okay all right well let’s go back to
00:12:23 this drive because I I think this is
00:12:27 where it’s just it could go either way
00:12:29 to me it doesn’t matter because I I see
00:12:31 another thing about before we go into
00:12:33 this
00:12:34 um because that’s coming from
00:12:37 Genesis of her remember correct okay my
00:12:41 spirit will shall not always strive with
00:12:42 man yes exactly Genesis chapter 6 verse
00:12:45 3 to contend to contest to struggle in
00:12:47 opposition to another let me finish my
00:12:49 whole thought real quick in fact the
00:12:52 days of man is
00:12:54 120 jubilees
00:12:57 mm-hmm
00:12:59 that’s a thousand years yeah men has 6
00:13:04 000 years
00:13:05 to decide to follow the spirit or not
00:13:07 after that their time is up right if
00:13:11 they decided not to time’s up judgment
00:13:16 well yeah even if you do decide just to
00:13:19 get a it’s a good judgment instead of a
00:13:21 bad judgment right that’s right
00:13:23 yeah well judgment will happen one way
00:13:26 around yeah yeah it’s just whether if
00:13:28 your judged to be accepted or judged
00:13:29 that you know well it’s or whether it’s
00:13:34 up to you whether it will be a great or
00:13:35 a dreadful day yes
00:13:40 it’s you know there’s two parts to that
00:13:42 whether if you’ve accepted Yeshua and
00:13:46 his
00:13:48 um his covering and then
00:13:51 started working on keeping the law
00:13:53 yourself
00:13:54 yep because you
00:13:58 you keep sinning and making excuses
00:14:01 you’re not a new creature
00:14:02 you’re just an old creature with new
00:14:04 excuse
00:14:07 me you’re cute
00:14:09 and and to use the covering of Yeshua
00:14:13 as an excuse to continue to sin
00:14:17 that’s a lot better if he had not known
00:14:19 him
00:14:20 yep that’s oxymoronical because that’s
00:14:23 actually against the Commandments as we
00:14:25 talked about yes yeah to contend to
00:14:28 contest to because the this is actually
00:14:32 given in reference to the second
00:14:34 definition here
00:14:36 that verse is my spirit will not shall
00:14:39 not always strive with man to contend to
00:14:42 contest to struggle in opposition to
00:14:45 another
00:14:46 to be in contention or dispute
00:14:49 followed by against or with before the
00:14:52 person or thing
00:14:54 about would be opposed strive against
00:14:57 temptation
00:14:59 yeah that would oh look they’re even
00:15:02 referencing the verse yeah that’s what
00:15:04 I’m saying that’s when where this verse
00:15:06 is actually referenced to yeah is that
00:15:08 second
00:15:10 um I think that maybe so actually I can
00:15:12 see how
00:15:14 the spirit the spirit will not always
00:15:16 strive with man
00:15:18 um if we ignore the law
00:15:22 the spirit is the law can’t strive with
00:15:24 us do it you can’t strive with us or
00:15:28 um
00:15:29 or be or be their uh
00:15:34 or it it can’t strike
00:15:38 it can’t strive with somebody who’s not
00:15:40 paying attention to it correct
00:15:43 yeah
00:15:44 and I mean
00:15:46 uh the scriptures talk about when you
00:15:50 um
00:15:51 when you sin
00:15:53 you’ll start forgetting it also which
00:15:55 means yeah not striving with you right
00:16:01 um
00:16:02 12 10 11 is my favorite for that one but
00:16:05 it’s in other places too yeah so yeah so
00:16:08 that and also in context this is all
00:16:11 this is also talking about a um
00:16:16 early day and early days of the world
00:16:18 prophecy concerning the and concerning
00:16:21 when the how long man has I believe so
00:16:25 because
00:16:28 yeah
00:16:31 yeah so uh yeah so the
00:16:36 to say that this is a description of the
00:16:38 spirit it would be to take it out of
00:16:41 context yeah and I’ve along with this
00:16:46 um
00:16:47 with this part of history people lived a
00:16:51 lot longer than we are right now right
00:16:54 I’ve come across that they counted
00:16:56 things in jubilees because of that
00:17:00 well that makes sense hence the 120
00:17:03 right
00:17:04 yeah
00:17:05 so another one that goes along with this
00:17:09 um the same idea
00:17:12 the Israelites were in the wilderness
00:17:14 for 40 years
00:17:18 right
00:17:20 the times of the Gentiles is 40 times
00:17:23 50. the tentels are in the wilderness
00:17:25 and they get 40 jubilees
00:17:29 two thousand years that’s really
00:17:31 interesting yeah
00:17:33 and then if they choose to abide and
00:17:37 then if they choose to abide in the
00:17:38 spirit
00:17:40 but then they can be in Israel yeah
00:17:45 but they have to what they have to
00:17:48 choose to abide in the spirit
00:17:53 and I think it goes along with this it’s
00:17:56 the exact same teaching
00:17:58 right and actually so it’s using beliefs
00:18:02 too right so what we would so what we
00:18:05 would say concern so what we would say
00:18:08 concerning the spirit is that those who
00:18:10 use this verse to argue that the spirit
00:18:12 cannot be the law because the spirit
00:18:15 will not always strive with man they are
00:18:17 taking the scripture out of context and
00:18:20 they’re not using a dictionary
00:18:22 they’re not using a dictionary oh yeah
00:18:26 um so yeah
00:18:28 but generally speaking uh you know but
00:18:32 and thus they are actually proving the
00:18:34 words of Peter
00:18:36 which states that they who are unlearned
00:18:39 and unstable
00:18:42 rests these things to their damnation
00:18:45 yeah
00:18:46 yeah because that’s what they’re doing
00:18:50 so but here’s
00:18:53 a thought that I think goes along with
00:18:55 this to some degree okay
00:18:58 and it kind of goes more along there’s
00:19:00 there’s justification right
00:19:04 then there’s uh working with the law and
00:19:07 then there’s the sanctification I do
00:19:09 think
00:19:10 some of these people probably did get
00:19:13 Justified
00:19:14 right
00:19:15 but the problem is
00:19:17 they went off the path and they they
00:19:20 didn’t go down the path of
00:19:22 oh keeping the law again yeah they
00:19:26 didn’t they didn’t follow they didn’t
00:19:28 follow the spirit correct which is the
00:19:31 law
00:19:32 the Torah I mean the spirit even without
00:19:35 knowing what it is it’s in the Old
00:19:38 Testament too it’s not something new
00:19:41 that the Christians
00:19:44 it’s interesting the hello generally
00:19:47 when Christians say when it came it’s
00:19:49 Pentecost
00:19:52 that’s when the law is given
00:19:56 but the spirit didn’t come
00:19:58 the spirit didn’t come with Pentecost
00:20:01 it was there before but it was
00:20:04 that’s when Moses got the law because
00:20:07 because actually
00:20:11 come upon men
00:20:13 throughout time the men of great
00:20:15 righteousness I agree with that but the
00:20:18 there’s also these events that happen on
00:20:21 these
00:20:22 High holidays that represent these
00:20:25 things
00:20:25 right
00:20:27 um and that’s acts two
00:20:31 is
00:20:32 the same day it is literally shoving out
00:20:37 when Moses brought down the law exactly
00:20:40 exactly which in Acts 2 instead of
00:20:43 focusing on the law they spoke out focus
00:20:45 on the spirit but
00:20:47 they knew it was the same thing
00:20:50 because the spirit is how we behave
00:20:53 yes
00:20:55 and the law teaches us how to do that
00:20:57 and another interesting thing is this is
00:21:00 not scriptural but there’s
00:21:02 traditions how
00:21:05 um well this part’s true at Mount Sina
00:21:08 it was a mixed multitude
00:21:11 and then this part is tradition which I
00:21:14 actually do believe that
00:21:17 the mixed multitude heard the law in
00:21:20 their own language
00:21:22 just like it happened in Acts 2. yeah I
00:21:25 heard that on the um I
00:21:30 on that uh on that video
00:21:34 that you have attached to your um
00:21:38 do you have attached to your um Holy
00:21:41 Spirit
00:21:43 Resource page uh and I think that one’s
00:21:46 you heard it from the moti people I I
00:21:49 I’ve come across it from other places
00:21:50 also but yeah it’s
00:21:53 I if I remember correctly that’s in the
00:21:55 talmud
00:21:57 um
00:21:58 which I mean that’s oral tradition my um
00:22:01 it’s not completely bad I have a problem
00:22:05 I have a lot of I have a lot of problems
00:22:07 with a lot of the stuff that’s in the
00:22:09 talmud oh I have problems with most of
00:22:11 it too especially when they’re trying to
00:22:14 uh because the talmud and the oral law
00:22:16 and you know and all that stuff is a lot
00:22:19 of it is just there’s so much of it that
00:22:21 actually just contradicts uh yes and
00:22:25 it’s men’s opinions about the law and
00:22:29 I think a lot of those
00:22:31 rabbis were actually trying to justify
00:22:33 pagan
00:22:35 Babylonian traditions in those things
00:22:38 that were creepy that were creeping into
00:22:40 the regular practice yes in fact I mean
00:22:44 Sermon on the Mount yeshua’s States
00:22:47 um
00:22:48 and we could look at the actual language
00:22:50 where you know I came to First fill the
00:22:53 law
00:22:54 uh I can’t remember the whole phrase but
00:22:56 that
00:22:57 that terminology there
00:22:59 is Yeshua using rabbinic terminology
00:23:03 saying you’re interpreting the law
00:23:05 incorrectly I’m interpreting it
00:23:07 correctly or I’m you’re teaching it
00:23:10 incorrectly and I’m teaching it
00:23:11 correctly that’s what’s going on there
00:23:14 and that’s
00:23:15 rabbis today still even use that
00:23:17 language for that thing of saying I know
00:23:21 better than you really it’s just these
00:23:24 to some sense it’s just like you’re
00:23:27 wrong I’m right is basically what’s
00:23:29 being stated right there which then well
00:23:32 let’s go off and
00:23:33 and there’s a lot of there’s a lot of
00:23:35 people who really get offended by that
00:23:37 by a bold statement like that
00:23:40 uh well the scriptures state to be bold
00:23:43 all over
00:23:45 Old Testament New Testament and Book of
00:23:47 Mormon so I’m not saying that they don’t
00:23:50 I’m not saying that they’re right to be
00:23:52 offended but I’m just saying no I don’t
00:23:54 know I get a lot of it yeah people get
00:23:58 really offended by a bold statement of
00:24:00 what is true Yeah by
00:24:03 but instead of it just being opinion of
00:24:07 the actual fact teaching boxes well that
00:24:11 and that’s what it’s the fact that
00:24:13 you’re stating
00:24:15 what you know as fact
00:24:18 that causes people to say that you’re
00:24:20 arguing in bad faith
00:24:24 well have them show me somewhere in the
00:24:27 scriptures where well I’m not talking
00:24:29 about you specifically
00:24:31 say about me proverbial you yeah I know
00:24:35 but that’s that’s what that’s what
00:24:36 people say about me so and I’m just
00:24:39 saying show me in the scriptures where
00:24:41 the prophets don’t just come out and say
00:24:43 it all right I mean look at Alma look at
00:24:46 uh amulet
00:24:48 and there are discourse on and they come
00:24:52 out they may come out and say more
00:24:54 Softly
00:24:55 right hence uh kind of more like how
00:24:58 Satan speaks actually
00:25:01 lawyer yeah Alma speaks with a great
00:25:03 deal Alma speaks with some subtle taste
00:25:08 uh right but it it’s not quite the same
00:25:13 no it’s not
00:25:15 um I I do hear what you’re saying but
00:25:16 it’s not the same
00:25:19 um
00:25:19 this is actually different but because
00:25:22 what
00:25:24 did you really I I don’t know maybe
00:25:27 subtle isn’t the right word I think back
00:25:30 in the garden with Eve
00:25:32 did he say that
00:25:38 that’s what I hear from these people
00:25:40 did he say that
00:25:44 I mean we can go look at it if you want
00:25:47 because I don’t remember exactly how
00:25:49 it’s put it’s but it’s basically a long
00:25:51 ago because that’s probably Genesis too
00:25:52 if I remember
00:25:53 yeah
00:25:55 it’s more of the longer the lines of did
00:25:58 he really say that
00:26:00 so then just coming out in bald and
00:26:03 saying he didn’t say that it’s putting
00:26:06 questions right
00:26:08 uh versus stating what it is
00:26:12 yeah I think that I think
00:26:15 [Music]
00:26:18 is this aversion too
00:26:22 it’s almost
00:26:24 on a certain level I see what I see is a
00:26:31 an extreme overreaction to the
00:26:34 authoritarian nature of the church
00:26:40 um where we to where we despise
00:26:43 I would disagree spoken authoritatively
00:26:48 um growing up in the church there’s not
00:26:50 a lot of authoritative
00:26:52 it’s a whole bunch of opinions that it’s
00:26:55 really taught well I mean but that’s
00:26:57 what these people talk I’m I’m just
00:26:59 going with what these people talk about
00:27:01 sure sure I I could see how they may use
00:27:04 that excuse but it’s an excuse It’s not
00:27:07 the reason
00:27:11 the reason is they have an issue with
00:27:13 authority period whether it’s righteous
00:27:16 Authority or Wicked they want to do it
00:27:19 their way that’s the problem
00:27:21 [Music]
00:27:23 I I mean
00:27:28 they loved it because it okayed their
00:27:31 wickedness wait wait wait so you mean we
00:27:34 can’t be laws unto ourselves
00:27:37 you can but you’ll be burning
00:27:46 well well
00:27:48 it doesn’t matter how fast or quickly
00:27:50 because you don’t get to eat yourself
00:27:51 because that’s a good thing
00:27:56 whether if you like the law or not you
00:27:59 have to keep it after the resurrection
00:28:00 so you may be yes but you don’t get to
00:28:02 meet yourself so it doesn’t matter
00:28:05 that’s not Kosher stop talking like that
00:28:09 you don’t get to eat yourself yeah
00:28:11 that’s true
00:28:16 I was trying to be funny so I’m glad
00:28:19 been caught into that
00:28:21 um I was being a funny answer is at the
00:28:24 same time no yeah exactly
00:28:27 it’s just a beautiful thing of our humor
00:28:32 is that we can be serious and know that
00:28:35 we are being serious yeah you know they
00:28:37 say about humor uh as what you laugh
00:28:39 about is where you’re intelligent on
00:28:42 because you can catch what’s going on
00:28:45 right you’re intelligent right yeah I
00:28:49 think there’s some truth to that
00:28:50 statement but good okay and here’s
00:28:53 another thing those people that say that
00:28:55 God doesn’t have a sense of humor
00:28:58 need to really pay attention I need to
00:29:01 read their scriptures again yeah I mean
00:29:02 I’m sorry balon’s talking ass I mean gee
00:29:09 come on that’s hilarious
00:29:13 God’s commentary on Balaam
00:29:16 yeah well you know what comes out of you
00:29:18 know what comes out of her ass is
00:29:24 don’t get that I said come on anyways
00:29:29 it’s just dang
00:29:33 um well the thing is a lot of people so
00:29:37 Yahweh uses literalism in the scriptures
00:29:41 and metaphors in the scriptures yes
00:29:45 foreign
00:29:47 uses metaphors and similes
00:29:52 and he idioms
00:29:55 the
00:29:57 range of type of language that Yahweh
00:30:00 uses in the scriptures is full now the
00:30:02 problem is
00:30:05 to justify their sins people will take
00:30:07 what is figurative as literal and what
00:30:10 is literal as figurative so they can so
00:30:13 they think they can justify themselves
00:30:14 here
00:30:16 even though they ultimately know it’s
00:30:18 wrong
00:30:19 right they wanted to be they wanted to
00:30:21 be okay because they have no light in
00:30:24 them Isaiah well yeah I think that a lot
00:30:29 of times people
00:30:31 I think a lot of times if people want
00:30:33 the spirit to be something other than
00:30:34 the law
00:30:37 yeah they they want it so it can be
00:30:39 different in every circumstance right
00:30:42 which is
00:30:43 um guess what
00:30:46 that is a respecter of persons yes with
00:30:51 a different person and that’s a
00:30:52 respecter of persons which is not and
00:30:55 what does it say that Zion is uh and the
00:31:01 Lord called his people Zion because they
00:31:03 were of one heart and one mind and they
00:31:06 had all things in common oh wait what
00:31:09 what did well first of all
00:31:12 let’s focus on one mind what did
00:31:14 lectures on faith teach us about the
00:31:16 mind of Yahweh
00:31:18 no that’s the whole holy the Holy Ghost
00:31:21 the Holy Ghost is the mind and will of
00:31:23 God yeah and so there’ll be one because
00:31:26 they’re one with the mind
00:31:28 and what is the mind the mind
00:31:31 the lost the plan the law I mean let’s
00:31:34 let’s just go look at in the dictionary
00:31:35 we love this dick oh first of all look
00:31:37 uh three opposed by
00:31:40 variety contrariety of qualities yeah
00:31:45 to
00:31:46 file to comparable to emulate to
00:31:50 continue so to me
00:31:53 just go look at the dictionary I mean
00:31:55 when I started I didn’t look at the
00:31:58 dictionary so much no I look a lot
00:32:01 yeah it opens so much more
00:32:05 and especially when you go look at
00:32:07 concordances it just shows a lot of
00:32:10 people translators put in their Theology
00:32:13 and translations
00:32:15 it just gets well and a lot of people
00:32:18 who and a lot of people even generally
00:32:20 have pretty good understanding
00:32:22 in terms of the need to keep the law
00:32:27 they have misunderstandings on small
00:32:31 points such as the nature of the spirit
00:32:35 that the spirit is the law
00:32:37 because they don’t know the dictionary
00:32:40 they don’t know the meanings of their
00:32:41 words right or and or that they’ve grown
00:32:45 up with um false Traditions that they
00:32:48 haven’t let go of yet
00:32:50 um
00:32:53 I’ll tell you
00:32:54 it took me a while to figure that one
00:32:56 out myself and and
00:33:00 I hope I’ve helped people see it with
00:33:02 some of my posts especially that all
00:33:03 things you can do Post right right
00:33:06 hopefully that’s is helping some people
00:33:08 see it because when you know the imagery
00:33:11 it gets more and more clear and I even
00:33:13 have more on that from just the Book of
00:33:15 Mormon alone
00:33:16 it’s just it
00:33:18 takes time to write those out as you’re
00:33:20 seeing right yeah
00:33:23 I mean you want it to be
00:33:27 perfectly understandable laid out
00:33:31 so that even my autistic son can read it
00:33:36 and understand it
00:33:38 right and the one thing with something
00:33:41 that’s written down
00:33:44 is you can’t interact with the person
00:33:46 reading it so you have to try to or C
00:33:50 and help them step that way through
00:33:52 everything without their being there and
00:33:55 you can
00:33:57 see their reactions and hopefully help
00:34:00 them correct those like because a lot of
00:34:02 the scriptures
00:34:04 that we have are actually discourses
00:34:07 of the prophets teaching these things to
00:34:10 the people where they could see their
00:34:12 interactions and then focus on
00:34:14 where they where they got it wrong
00:34:17 right but when you’re just writing a
00:34:19 post like
00:34:20 I do and you’re working on doing you
00:34:24 don’t get that interaction so you have
00:34:25 to try to
00:34:26 plan for view beforehand and it if you
00:34:29 want to do a good really good job
00:34:31 it takes more effort
00:34:35 anyways if you go look at my older posts
00:34:38 I didn’t do that so much but you can
00:34:40 if you go through my oldest one up to my
00:34:43 current one you can see a transition of
00:34:45 me and being more careful and more
00:34:47 thoughtful
00:34:49 um
00:34:50 hopefully it’s because I’m learning more
00:34:52 right but anyways but
00:34:54 um well the uh okay well I got I got an
00:34:58 it I got a really interesting um
00:35:02 foreign
00:35:09 and that was
00:35:13 that was the idea that I needed to and
00:35:17 what was given to me was that I needed
00:35:18 to embrace the role of the servant
00:35:25 and I think in some ways that I kind of
00:35:29 fight against that sometimes a little
00:35:32 bit
00:35:33 I have my heart
00:35:35 because I don’t like
00:35:39 I don’t like to contend with people
00:35:45 um
00:35:48 so as much as people might think that I
00:35:51 do I don’t
00:35:53 know but what I do want to do
00:35:57 is to guard
00:35:59 the way guard the way yeah
00:36:02 because actually
00:36:04 if you go look at Torah
00:36:06 more actually states to guard the Torah
00:36:11 yeah
00:36:12 uh and
00:36:15 Joseph Smith used that same imagery when
00:36:18 talking about the Book of Mormon that we
00:36:19 are to guard
00:36:22 AKA a bite no so let’s abide in a guard
00:36:26 has to have overlap meetings let’s well
00:36:30 and the and the whole the whole thing
00:36:32 the whole thing of that
00:36:36 that was the whole thing of that that
00:36:38 was spoken
00:36:40 who really went in line with the whole
00:36:42 thing of Jacob chapter 2 where it talks
00:36:46 about if you
00:36:47 give basically not Jacob chapter two no
00:36:54 seek ye first that whole seek ye first
00:36:57 the kingdom of God and his righteousness
00:36:58 well the first half of Jacob two has
00:37:00 that
00:37:01 yeah the last half is the monogamy
00:37:05 anti polygamy Smackdown against polygamy
00:37:08 yeah the first half has that we can go
00:37:11 yeah okay yeah that is Jacob too then
00:37:13 yeah
00:37:16 yeah and it was very much along those
00:37:19 lines that basically if I will if I
00:37:23 commit myself to being the servant than
00:37:25 the thought of then basically the
00:37:28 Lord’s going to take care of me
00:37:36 well
00:37:37 um
00:37:39 so
00:37:41 in the scriptures
00:37:43 if we come under him
00:37:46 mm-hmm
00:37:48 he’s obligated to take care of us don’t
00:37:50 he’s not obligators to take care of us
00:37:52 the way that we want to be taken care of
00:37:55 right he is obligated to take care of us
00:37:57 in fact you’ll see that in a Master
00:38:00 servant relationship then the scriptures
00:38:02 right the master is obligated to
00:38:07 take care of us
00:38:09 and once we
00:38:11 become a servant
00:38:13 whether no matter actually even if
00:38:17 you just come under his household right
00:38:20 right the child
00:38:22 as the master he’s obligated to take
00:38:24 care of you if right if
00:38:28 if
00:38:29 you listen and obey him
00:38:31 if you don’t he’s not obligated to do
00:38:34 that
00:38:34 right right
00:38:36 and so there’s
00:38:38 all these Believers out there it’s like
00:38:40 why aren’t you taking care of me I’ll
00:38:42 tell you the answer
00:38:44 because you’re disobedient yes because
00:38:47 you’re not taking care of him
00:38:50 huh no it’s not that it’s not that it’s
00:38:52 because you’re disobedient well but
00:38:55 that’s the same thing fear means
00:38:56 reverence and if you’re not obeying him
00:38:59 you’re not revering him
00:39:02 because in a lot of places in the
00:39:04 scriptures where it actually says fear
00:39:06 Yahweh it should probably a better
00:39:09 translation is revereign
00:39:12 obey
00:39:16 yeah yeah
00:39:18 um so I I think matters correct in
00:39:21 bringing up his thought there I think
00:39:23 they
00:39:24 um connect same thing yeah
00:39:29 um so yeah the word abide to dwell on
00:39:33 the house yes well I mean if we even
00:39:35 look at the palatable of the talents or
00:39:37 Parable yes thank you Parable
00:39:40 sorry
00:39:42 it’s been a long week it’s been a lot
00:39:45 the parable of the talent
00:39:48 what does he say about the steward that
00:39:50 went and took care of what he got or
00:39:54 received from him and received more
00:39:57 steward
00:40:01 or servant
00:40:03 thou Hast been Faithful over a few
00:40:05 things I will make thee Faith a ruler
00:40:07 over many things
00:40:10 so it’s the same basic concept yeah
00:40:15 and what happened in the world
00:40:17 of him
00:40:20 and do this thing how do we take care of
00:40:22 him we show him we love him how do we
00:40:24 show him we love him we keep his
00:40:25 Commandments and we do all those things
00:40:27 that he asks us to do
00:40:29 and then he will take care he will be
00:40:33 obligated to help us
00:40:36 now one thing that’s interesting the one
00:40:39 who
00:40:40 I I don’t remember how the parable puts
00:40:42 it we’d have to go look exactly but the
00:40:45 one thing I find interesting
00:40:46 worded the Unfaithful servant put his
00:40:49 talent he hit it in the dust and sinned
00:40:52 in the dust whose domain is dust
00:40:55 Satan Satan they he I think possibly
00:41:01 and I I would actually just say I oh
00:41:03 an addition Insight from that is the
00:41:07 Unfaithful servant went and did things
00:41:09 for Satan
00:41:11 and Satan doesn’t really give you more
00:41:15 he doesn’t give you anything
00:41:18 well he so this is where we’ve got to be
00:41:20 careful he he actually does give things
00:41:23 that’s true power and fame
00:41:26 but he takes he takes he takes more than
00:41:30 he gives correct but he doesn’t change
00:41:33 the person
00:41:35 he doesn’t make them a ruler
00:41:38 yeah
00:41:40 there’s a closeness of what they’re
00:41:42 doing but
00:41:45 there’s a twisting and changing that
00:41:47 Satan has done to it
00:41:50 but it’s interesting what did the
00:41:52 servant say what did the servants say to
00:41:55 the master he’s like I knew that thou
00:41:58 was uh
00:42:00 uh that doubted so or that it’s not
00:42:05 Reaper that it’s not so and all of those
00:42:07 other things the servant doesn’t like
00:42:10 the servant doesn’t like his master no
00:42:12 he’s scared crapless of him or right
00:42:16 it’s because you didn’t really serve him
00:42:18 or get to know him yeah that’s an
00:42:21 intimate relationship with him
00:42:24 um and so rather and so rather than so
00:42:28 rather than take the risk and
00:42:33 develop that was that he didn’t take the
00:42:35 risk because I think it’s more where he
00:42:38 put it
00:42:39 well the the thing is is that
00:42:44 I think that the element of um the fact
00:42:48 that they took that the other two
00:42:50 servants took their talents to the
00:42:53 exchangers that’s a risk
00:42:55 there’s a risk factor in there you don’t
00:42:58 know if you’re going to get the you
00:43:00 don’t know if you’re going to get a
00:43:01 benefit
00:43:02 you could lose everything
00:43:05 um it’s like when you go when you invest
00:43:07 in stocks
00:43:08 you don’t know if you’re going to get a
00:43:11 bonus or if it’s going to go down
00:43:14 sure but I I don’t know if that’s it
00:43:17 because it wasn’t theirs
00:43:19 right it was his right I see what you’re
00:43:22 saying
00:43:24 um and so I mean we can go read through
00:43:27 the parable and talk about it more
00:43:29 because if we talk about it too much a
00:43:31 lot we should probably go to the actual
00:43:32 text right yeah
00:43:35 um
00:43:35 but it was I think it’s more
00:43:40 of them becoming something
00:43:43 because
00:43:45 um I uh becoming Lords
00:43:48 yeah because they became a ruler which
00:43:51 is actually from
00:43:52 that’s actually from Torah
00:43:55 28. you can keep my laws you’ll become a
00:43:58 ruler
00:44:00 um you just
00:44:01 he’s teaching Torah but people so you
00:44:04 become so you become a leader
00:44:06 by being a follower yeah
00:44:10 of Yeshua yeah just like Jesus
00:44:14 just like Yeshua is actually the
00:44:17 follower
00:44:19 of Yahweh
00:44:21 yes yeah
00:44:22 just as we’re supposed to imitate him
00:44:24 and I do believe
00:44:27 the mystery behind modalism is so that
00:44:30 way it’s presented a way that we follow
00:44:32 the pattern that he’s giving us
00:44:34 [Music]
00:44:37 I do think that’s the key of wives
00:44:40 and what is promised to us is to become
00:44:44 Heirs of all of the father has
00:44:47 yeah
00:44:49 now what that means
00:44:51 we don’t know necessarily
00:44:54 did I don’t think the scriptures make
00:44:57 that clear
00:44:58 I I don’t know
00:45:00 um
00:45:01 but but it’s great it also says it also
00:45:05 says joint heirs with Christ
00:45:07 so it’s a really interesting it’s really
00:45:10 interesting thing
00:45:11 a really interesting thing to look
00:45:13 forward to
00:45:14 oh yeah yeah
00:45:16 um in fact we inherit because of
00:45:19 yeshua’s death you don’t have
00:45:21 inheritance unless
00:45:24 someone dies
00:45:27 and so I think even that choice of word
00:45:29 shows the need of yeshua’s death because
00:45:32 we’ve all sinned except for him
00:45:38 um
00:45:39 so yeah
00:45:43 um so big things big things
00:45:46 um yeah we’ve talked about it we’ve
00:45:49 talked about some good things uh can we
00:45:51 take a pause for some Sacrament sure uh
00:45:55 let’s do that so I’m gonna pause
00:45:59 so with just doing the sacrament I do
00:46:02 want to say one thing though
00:46:04 um
00:46:06 partly with some questions uh Monica’s
00:46:09 asked me
00:46:13 for the sacrament
00:46:15 is
00:46:17 spelled wrong Bread and Wine
00:46:21 so
00:46:25 the wine represents joy and the
00:46:29 atonement and
00:46:32 partly why it represents both is because
00:46:34 you get the joy because of the atonement
00:46:37 the bread
00:46:39 represents the Commandments
00:46:43 so
00:46:45 well that’s why the work that’s why the
00:46:47 wording is a little different in both
00:46:48 prayers yeah it is a little different
00:46:52 um and maybe one time we can get into
00:46:54 those details
00:46:55 um
00:46:56 but
00:47:01 also in the scriptures
00:47:06 wine can represent good things and bad
00:47:09 things yeah
00:47:11 one effective alcohol is drunkardness
00:47:15 that’s never good okay
00:47:18 now it’s interesting here okay with
00:47:20 going with the idea of justification to
00:47:23 sanctification okay
00:47:26 we’ve seen the effects of the emblems
00:47:30 now let me explain this because it
00:47:34 um
00:47:36 if you drink wine alone
00:47:40 you’ll get drunk
00:47:42 oh yes yeah no wine can represent the
00:47:45 joy of being forgiven
00:47:48 but without the Commandments you’ll get
00:47:50 drunk
00:47:52 if you’ve been Justified
00:47:55 but then take don’t take the bread
00:47:59 you will get drunk
00:48:02 and you’ll get addicted to the
00:48:03 drunkenness
00:48:05 because you
00:48:07 think you’re on the right path when
00:48:09 you’re actually not you’ve deceived
00:48:11 yourself yeah see the the Commandments
00:48:14 are yahweh’s way of telling us how to
00:48:19 stay within his will right and the
00:48:23 reason I’m bringing this out is
00:48:25 if you just go drink wine all by itself
00:48:28 you’ll get drunk uh oh yeah I know about
00:48:32 that all right
00:48:34 okay anyways I
00:48:37 but if you go drink it while having
00:48:40 bread
00:48:41 you don’t I mean unless you overdo it
00:48:44 right right unless you seriously overdo
00:48:47 your unless you seriously
00:48:49 the effects of bread while having wine
00:48:55 really cuts that down a lot
00:48:59 because
00:49:01 symbolically if it represents the
00:49:04 Commandments
00:49:05 it’s excuse me it’s keeping you in check
00:49:09 but if you have then gotten Joy
00:49:12 you don’t have the Commandments you’re
00:49:15 going to think whatever you do is fine
00:49:16 yes yeah which is what a lot of people
00:49:21 do
00:49:22 a lot of people
00:49:24 the drunkards the drunkards of Ephraim
00:49:28 are not just the leaders of the church
00:49:30 no they’re not
00:49:33 I mean people want to sign it just to
00:49:35 the leaders because they want to try to
00:49:36 justify themselves
00:49:38 but it’s not just the leaders of the
00:49:40 church no
00:49:43 it’s the whole Drive every every single
00:49:46 every single one of us is a drunkard to
00:49:49 be from until we start to drink until we
00:49:51 start to eat that bread
00:49:53 yeah I was one time unknowingly
00:49:59 I was one at one time well that’s one of
00:50:02 the that’s one of the reasons why even
00:50:06 when I was
00:50:11 this one of the things that I always pre
00:50:14 that I pray for a lot
00:50:17 and I’ve really discovered the extra
00:50:19 meanings and layers Behind these words
00:50:23 give us this day our daily bread
00:50:28 yeah but there are so many
00:50:31 different
00:50:33 um
00:50:34 there’s so many different levels and
00:50:36 meanings to that
00:50:38 and
00:50:40 um I’ve it’s one of the things that I
00:50:43 always pray for uh
00:50:46 give me give me my bread give me my
00:50:50 bread
00:50:50 yeah and obviously there’s the physical
00:50:54 one and but then also there’s the
00:50:56 spiritual one
00:50:58 [Music]
00:51:02 um anyways
00:51:04 um
00:51:06 there’s a lot of depth to these things
00:51:08 oh yes to these ordinance I mean here’s
00:51:11 the ordinance I mean yeah there’s the
00:51:14 bread that there’s the Commandments and
00:51:15 then there’s the bread that is Jesus
00:51:17 Jesus is the bread of life yeah
00:51:21 I I mean part of the reason it’s wine
00:51:24 because that is the blood of the grape
00:51:28 yeah that’s the blood of the Vine
00:51:31 and who is the Vine
00:51:33 changes
00:51:35 and that’s that’s scriptural
00:51:38 yeah in the scriptures they call Wine
00:51:42 blood of the Vine
00:51:47 um anyways
00:51:49 yeah another thing I was thinking about
00:51:51 I don’t know how related it is but you
00:51:53 know he talks about calling people to
00:51:55 labor in his Vineyard also
00:51:58 mm-hmm
00:52:01 yeah but
00:52:03 not every not everybody who is awake is
00:52:07 called necessarily to be a worker in the
00:52:10 vineyard well
00:52:15 there’s a lot of people that think
00:52:16 they’re they may be called but they’re
00:52:18 definitely not chosen well the whole
00:52:20 thing is is that you’re not going to be
00:52:23 chosen unless not only you awake but you
00:52:26 arise
00:52:27 you have to arise
00:52:32 um because many are called but few are
00:52:34 chosen
00:52:36 well that’s true yeah and I
00:52:39 believe especially in
00:52:41 um talking about this in my Abraham 3 it
00:52:43 even brings us out
00:52:45 that
00:52:46 we’re called I mean Emma 13 brings this
00:52:49 out too we’re called before we came here
00:52:52 my point my point okay go ahead
00:52:55 but my point is is that there were many
00:52:58 people who believed that Jesus was the
00:53:00 Christ
00:53:01 who were not called as apostles
00:53:05 or seventy were sent out to minister the
00:53:08 word uh sure sure though I would agree
00:53:10 with that statement I was going off to
00:53:12 something else but I I see what you’re
00:53:13 going off now yeah
00:53:15 yeah there’s a lot of false Apostles out
00:53:19 there
00:53:20 um not just in the LDS church but in all
00:53:22 almost all restoration churches have
00:53:25 false Apostles yes they’re they’ve given
00:53:29 themselves that title which is
00:53:33 unauthorized 30 supers
00:53:40 are supposed to testify that they’ve
00:53:42 seen him face to face according to the
00:53:44 Book of Mormon they have to know they
00:53:47 have to know they have to know him and
00:53:49 all these people that have claimed
00:53:51 apostleship
00:53:54 um are liars according to the New
00:53:56 Testament
00:53:57 um and we can go get that real quick all
00:53:59 right let’s go get it
00:54:09 big strong statement let’s back it up
00:54:12 okay yeah yeah let’s back that one up
00:54:16 um
00:54:16 there we okay there we go
00:54:19 first John 2
00:54:21 verse three in a couple verses and
00:54:25 hereby we know that we know him now
00:54:32 if we keep his Commandments
00:54:36 he that saith I know him
00:54:39 in case it’s not his Commandments Torah
00:54:43 is a liar
00:54:46 and the truth is not in him and I mean
00:54:50 Isaiah 8.
00:54:53 there is no light in them because the
00:54:56 Torah
00:54:57 truth is light
00:54:59 and not everyone is a false Apostle is
00:55:02 wearing the title
00:55:04 is wearing a title of this world
00:55:07 oh yeah some are going acting like one
00:55:09 without claiming the title but they’re
00:55:12 acting like one
00:55:15 um but whosoever keeps his word
00:55:18 yeah see all throughout the scriptures
00:55:21 they interchanged laws statutes even
00:55:25 testimonies
00:55:27 well and and I think that there’s a
00:55:30 purpose behind that
00:55:33 and that is
00:55:36 um
00:55:40 sometimes I think for us or against us
00:55:43 yeah sometimes I think that God gives us
00:55:46 enough rope to hang ourselves with yeah
00:55:49 he does
00:55:50 yeah he has to so because we have here I
00:55:54 mean he’s not a god of entrapment but
00:55:55 he’s going to uh he’s going he’s going
00:55:59 to allow us
00:56:00 the ultimate test Here’s my thought the
00:56:04 ultimate test is will we humble
00:56:07 ourselves or will we lean upon our own
00:56:10 understanding
00:56:11 right and
00:56:13 um
00:56:14 second Nephi
00:56:17 two I’ll have some good stuff on this
00:56:19 that we will look at if you want yeah
00:56:21 let’s do it I love the law office that
00:56:24 he’s trying to hang us I think there’s a
00:56:27 couple aspects to this well and just
00:56:29 before we I’ll say one thing before we
00:56:30 go there
00:56:32 um
00:56:33 foreign
00:56:35 day
00:56:40 the books are going to be open
00:56:43 and it’s going to be shown how much
00:56:45 Yeshua
00:56:47 reached out to us to do the right thing
00:56:52 and it’s not to con necessarily condemn
00:56:55 us but it will if we reject it is to
00:56:58 bring us back
00:57:00 and also
00:57:02 is to get rid of any
00:57:05 it’s doubt
00:57:08 that he tried
00:57:10 yeah
00:57:12 because if he wouldn’t have tried it
00:57:14 would be
00:57:15 unlawful for us to be condemned
00:57:19 yeah he’d be but he’d be in violation of
00:57:22 his own law
00:57:23 correct
00:57:25 and therefore would cease to be oh God
00:57:27 the Eternal Father
00:57:30 yes so
00:57:37 um just a little tidbits here I do
00:57:40 believe that first Nephi’s I mean second
00:57:43 Nephi one two and three
00:57:46 was
00:57:48 either given on Passover
00:57:50 or more likely
00:57:52 first fruits
00:57:54 which is part of unleavened bread
00:57:56 yes yes
00:57:59 at least during unleavened bread which
00:58:01 includes first fruits right because yeah
00:58:03 because the feet yeah the these Jesus is
00:58:07 tried unpa tried on Passover then
00:58:10 there’s a feast of unleavened bread
00:58:11 which is a High Sabbath
00:58:16 and then he was laid and then he then
00:58:20 the sign of Jonas inclusive time he
00:58:22 raises on first prince
00:58:25 well so just on this passovers when we
00:58:30 select the lab when we choose Joshua
00:58:34 unleavened bread is when we let go of
00:58:36 the teachings of the Pharisees in the
00:58:39 world Babylon first fruits is multiple
00:58:43 things one death is taken away
00:58:47 right AKA justification
00:58:50 next is Pentecost
00:58:53 where we get the law
00:58:55 that we then
00:58:57 keep to be Sanctified we start working
00:59:00 to keep it then there’s the judge then
00:59:04 there’s a warning hold on but then
00:59:05 there’s then there’s trumpets then we go
00:59:08 tell others after we learn the law right
00:59:11 this is the scriptures teach
00:59:14 we warn after we learn
00:59:17 yeah then there’s judgment
00:59:21 and then there’s sanctification
00:59:24 Tabernacles we live with Yahweh Yeshua
00:59:27 yeah which is sanctification
00:59:32 yeah and so all the feast days actually
00:59:35 point to the process of sanctification
00:59:37 and they teach the gospel
00:59:40 yeah exactly everything everything
00:59:42 within the law actually teaches the
00:59:45 gospel of understood correctly yeah
00:59:48 um
00:59:49 yeah I
00:59:52 if you think you’re above
00:59:54 well High holidays is because you don’t
00:59:56 understand them you need to sit down and
00:59:59 think about it
01:00:01 well I’ll just say that you’re bad but
01:00:05 just yeah yeah it’s uh at the very least
01:00:09 you need to check your head because it’s
01:00:12 getting pretty big well it’s because
01:00:13 your head is Satan that’s why
01:00:16 yeah because the head is your leader
01:00:24 Okay so
01:00:27 um
01:00:28 we probably can skip I mean we just we
01:00:32 should read firstly if I I mean second
01:00:33 e51 is good but I think more what we
01:00:35 want is in second new pie
01:00:37 okay secondly by two blah blah blah I’m
01:00:40 getting my words Twisted I’m getting my
01:00:43 book mixed up with my chapter anyways
01:00:47 foreign
01:01:12 so let’s take turns with some
01:01:17 do sections at a time okay and then but
01:01:21 if you want to say something go ahead
01:01:23 and interrupt me okay
01:01:25 um uh you said we’re in second Nephi
01:01:28 chapter two yeah because I’m I I’m not
01:01:31 going to be able to read that sorry oh
01:01:34 okay that’s two things small sorry yeah
01:01:38 and now Jacob I speak unto you Thou Art
01:01:41 my firstborn
01:01:43 and
01:01:44 I he’s bringing firstborn
01:01:47 in the wilderness for imagery purposes
01:01:50 in my opinion
01:01:52 of my tribulation not just first days in
01:01:57 the wilderness it’s first days of
01:01:59 tribulation in the wilderness yeah
01:02:03 um that’s huge actually which is part of
01:02:07 the reason why we have to endure
01:02:09 it this is a imagery going back to
01:02:14 part
01:02:15 of the doctrine of Christ that people
01:02:19 love to quote is the enduring part right
01:02:22 and everything is staying faithful
01:02:26 during tribulations
01:02:30 in the wilderness
01:02:32 that’s interesting
01:02:35 I wonder how old Soraya was when she had
01:02:37 Jacob
01:02:40 that’s a good question because I know
01:02:43 what art portrays but I don’t know what
01:02:45 the text I don’t think the text actually
01:02:46 gets any indications
01:02:49 because
01:02:51 MiFi was old enough to be big enough
01:02:55 to manhandle the servant of Laban who’s
01:02:58 a big guy
01:03:02 but he’s able to manhandle somebody
01:03:05 who’s a fully grown adult
01:03:07 he had kids at this time I thought if
01:03:10 I remember correctly he had a kid one
01:03:13 that came across on the boat if I
01:03:15 remember correctly yeah he at this point
01:03:17 he already Nephi already has kids but
01:03:19 I’m talking about
01:03:21 the servant of Laban zoram no no I’m no
01:03:25 I’m not I’m talking about Nephi the main
01:03:28 point is uh soraya’s age soraya’s age
01:03:31 I’m not really the servant of Laban is
01:03:34 just simply a bystander right okay a
01:03:37 point is a part he’s a he’s a bullet
01:03:42 point uh supporting point
01:03:45 right right and so Nephi is pretty well
01:03:48 grown up but
01:03:50 Jacob’s born in the wilderness and I
01:03:52 wonder how old Soraya was when she had
01:03:54 do we have another example here of
01:03:56 Abraham and Sarai
01:04:00 well that’s a good point
01:04:03 um
01:04:04 because
01:04:05 Isaac was considered the firstborn
01:04:09 yeah
01:04:10 and
01:04:12 Jacob
01:04:13 um takes over the office of the high
01:04:16 priest
01:04:18 right yeah the Melchizedek high priest
01:04:21 not the auronic high priest yeah because
01:04:23 those are two different it doesn’t go to
01:04:25 Nephi’s son it goes to
01:04:28 Jacob um
01:04:30 so that would that brings up a little
01:04:32 more about being the first one
01:04:36 so that was
01:04:38 I think that was a good sidetrack
01:04:40 um okay
01:04:43 and behold in my childhood
01:04:46 oh and die childhood thou has suffered
01:04:50 afflictions and much sorrow because of
01:04:52 the rudeness of thy brother this is also
01:04:54 ties back to Isaac with Ishmael
01:04:58 yeah
01:05:00 um and I think just also
01:05:02 more broadly
01:05:05 to those who walk in the way and those
01:05:07 who don’t
01:05:08 mm-hmm
01:05:10 um which I think it’s more referring to
01:05:12 that but it could be going back to the
01:05:14 other
01:05:15 um
01:05:18 it’s really important when you’re going
01:05:20 through the stories here as we try to
01:05:23 build up
01:05:25 the connection between Book of Mormon
01:05:27 and Torah that we
01:05:29 build these Bridges
01:05:31 oh I agree I agree we build these
01:05:33 Bridges between Book of Mormon
01:05:35 characters and toric characters yeah
01:05:38 on that
01:05:40 we find this interesting
01:05:43 um
01:05:45 Moses
01:05:48 brought people out of Jerusalem Lehigh
01:05:53 brought people out of I mean Moses
01:05:57 brought people out of Egypt yeah I
01:05:59 brought people out of Jerusalem second
01:06:02 in charge
01:06:06 Joshua brought them to the land of
01:06:08 promise
01:06:10 second person charged Nephi built the
01:06:13 boat to bring them to the land of
01:06:15 promise Andy guided the ship
01:06:18 he was the one that guided it
01:06:21 um also on that point
01:06:25 the event of Nephi building the ship
01:06:28 goes against eldius
01:06:32 stewardship
01:06:34 principles
01:06:36 because if it was according to LDS
01:06:39 Doctrine it would have been Lehigh who
01:06:41 was told to build the ship and not Nephi
01:06:46 Nephi was told to build it not
01:06:49 the high
01:06:51 which kind of goes against them
01:06:57 the doctrines of the LDS church bring my
01:07:00 church right yeah yeah because nothing
01:07:02 nothing meaningful can come to the
01:07:05 family except through the patriarch of
01:07:07 the family
01:07:08 and that’s not what happened there no
01:07:12 it went to Lehigh well I do believe
01:07:14 that’s also why Lehman and Lemuel were
01:07:17 highly resistant to building the boat
01:07:20 they’re resistant with their father I I
01:07:22 don’t think it would have mattered if it
01:07:24 was from the father if they resisted or
01:07:25 not they resisted with their father with
01:07:27 Lehigh when I was like yeah that’s true
01:07:29 in the wilderness yeah they’re just
01:07:31 hard-hearted they thought their Elders
01:07:33 were righteous so
01:07:36 right
01:07:38 which makes you wonder why they chose to
01:07:40 leave
01:07:43 um
01:07:44 they felt like they had no choice
01:07:47 yeah and but
01:07:50 I guess loyalty to the family well
01:07:53 to the the head of the father on her
01:07:55 life the father and mother honor my
01:07:57 father yep you know how could they say
01:07:59 that they keep the laws but they knew
01:08:03 they had to because
01:08:06 that was much more well understood than
01:08:09 than today yeah I mean that’s being
01:08:12 destroyed a lot today right yeah that’s
01:08:15 true so I think they understood
01:08:19 the fifth commandment I think that one’s
01:08:21 the fifth
01:08:23 um
01:08:25 the interesting thing is is that
01:08:28 actually falls under the number of under
01:08:29 the Commandments that are about honoring
01:08:31 God
01:08:33 yeah it does
01:08:34 um because
01:08:37 the real spiritual one is honoring God
01:08:40 our Father
01:08:42 um in fact well there’s multiple there’s
01:08:46 multiple levels on that commandment oh
01:08:48 yeah yeah it’s talking about honoring
01:08:50 God it’s talking about honoring the
01:08:51 fathers of the Covenant
01:08:54 um I actually think this is where
01:08:56 tithing comes into place too
01:08:58 yeah 17 Commandments
01:09:00 because in the New Testament Yeshua
01:09:02 makes it clear that honor and thy father
01:09:04 and mother is supporting them
01:09:07 [Music]
01:09:10 so anyways
01:09:12 um okay I want to keep nonetheless Jacob
01:09:16 my firstborn in the wilderness knows the
01:09:19 greatest greatness of Yahweh it’s
01:09:23 because of the struggles
01:09:25 that you know there’s greatness I mean
01:09:28 you probably makes that pretty clear and
01:09:31 personally by one one two and three in
01:09:36 those verses I don’t remember exactly
01:09:37 which one but he brings out the same
01:09:40 thing there that
01:09:42 um it’s because of his sufferings that
01:09:44 he knows the greatness of God
01:09:46 yeah
01:09:47 I think it’s partly because
01:09:50 well except the word here is the word
01:09:53 here is nevertheless which means which
01:09:56 is kind of like in spite of this you
01:09:58 know
01:10:00 or
01:10:02 this may be happening but you do know
01:10:04 the greatness of God and it may be and
01:10:07 that does lead to cause yeah you’re
01:10:10 right that does have a cause of
01:10:12 we can go double check but I I
01:10:16 think that’s a cause and effect yeah and
01:10:18 that may be a cause and effect work
01:10:29 s
01:10:33 oh okay uh you need to replace that th
01:10:37 with an it with a v
01:10:41 do my favorite computer invention
01:10:44 that’s nether you’ve got nether the less
01:10:54 notwithstanding
01:10:56 that is in opposition without regarding
01:11:00 it nonetheless we proceed on our journey
01:11:03 we did not let’s proceed on our journey
01:11:06 we proceeded in opposition to the Rain
01:11:11 so it’s by over by overcoming the
01:11:15 suffering he has come to know the
01:11:16 goodness of God yes yep
01:11:21 um
01:11:23 which I actually believe is uh
01:11:29 part of the plan actually I think it’s
01:11:32 required
01:11:35 um and if we want to Sidetrack on that I
01:11:38 can see multiple places for that but
01:11:41 um anyways
01:11:44 uh Let Us carry on
01:11:48 most the greatness of Elohim and he
01:11:51 Elohim shall consecrate thine
01:11:53 afflictions for thy can gain
01:11:56 um
01:11:57 amen
01:12:00 I sure hope so
01:12:04 this is uh
01:12:07 reflects one of the I don’t know what
01:12:09 section the DNC but the letter that
01:12:11 Joseph Smith wrote and his answer
01:12:15 in Carthage Jail right yeah
01:12:21 um I I think that even has prophecy in
01:12:25 it on something and the way it’s so much
01:12:26 worded but yeah
01:12:29 um but it has this main point in it
01:12:31 right
01:12:33 I think that’s section 122 the Lord is
01:12:38 responding to
01:12:41 where is that where is the Pavilion that
01:12:44 we’re cut that’s covering that hiding
01:12:45 place
01:12:46 yeah
01:12:48 um
01:12:50 and the Lord so yeah
01:12:53 and all these things shall be
01:12:55 consecrated for they yeah yeah
01:12:58 section 122. I was just looking
01:13:01 um I I I love that section
01:13:04 that’s a good section
01:13:06 um
01:13:07 I I think is that the section that
01:13:09 quotes
01:13:10 be still and know that I am God yes
01:13:14 it would make sense it’s in that one
01:13:17 um which is from the Psalms Department
01:13:20 correctly yes it is
01:13:24 it’s actually several places in the
01:13:26 Bible uh I’m sure it is it’s an
01:13:29 important concept
01:13:30 yep be still and know that I’m well
01:13:34 that’s actually and that’s actually I
01:13:37 that’s actually an important point in
01:13:40 actually building that relationship with
01:13:43 God is taking time to be still
01:13:47 yeah to be with him
01:13:49 yeah
01:13:52 which you’re supposed to do
01:13:55 um
01:13:56 the 8th 15th 22nd and 29th of the Moon
01:13:59 well and actually the first also right
01:14:01 because yeah worship day also
01:14:06 um
01:14:08 and it’s important in fact it’s it’s his
01:14:11 seal
01:14:13 yes
01:14:15 um so anyways
01:14:18 wherefore
01:14:19 and I saw
01:14:21 shall be blessed
01:14:24 and thou shalt dwell safely with thy
01:14:27 brother
01:14:28 Nephi
01:14:29 as in
01:14:31 you know the other prophets
01:14:33 and thy days shall be spent in the
01:14:35 service of Elohim
01:14:37 I I think to some respects
01:14:40 um Jacob
01:14:43 was kind of the shadow of Nephi I think
01:14:48 more so than Sam I think Sam was there
01:14:51 in the shadow of some
01:14:54 but I think Sam is that faithful
01:14:57 follower yeah he’s a faithful follower
01:15:00 or Jacob
01:15:03 turns into a faithful leader
01:15:07 more of Nephi’s shadow
01:15:11 which I think is partly why he’s
01:15:13 bringing up Nephi here
01:15:16 because he’s more like Nephi
01:15:20 and nine days shall be spent in the
01:15:22 service of Elohim they judge wherefore I
01:15:26 know that thou art redeemed why
01:15:29 because of the righteousness of that
01:15:31 Redeemer right not because of mine
01:15:35 Isaiah and it’s actually not even
01:15:38 because we walked in the law
01:15:40 no it’s not it’s because of Yeshua
01:15:44 we walk in the law because we want to be
01:15:47 like him
01:15:49 yes who is the perfect personification
01:15:53 we walk in other in other words we walk
01:15:55 in the law because we love him right and
01:15:59 the law here I’m going to show
01:16:02 a little bit a picture from a post I’m
01:16:04 working on
01:16:08 let me get it ready
01:16:11 that we’ll talk about
01:16:16 the reason why
01:16:20 let’s move this there
01:16:22 go to the end
01:16:27 but the law tells us the attributes and
01:16:31 characteristics
01:16:32 of Yeshua
01:16:34 so if you want to be like him
01:16:37 you got to do like him which means
01:16:39 keeping the law
01:16:41 and this is just a nice meme someone and
01:16:45 you know the interesting thing is
01:16:48 how many of these things are actually in
01:16:50 Paul’s definition of charity
01:16:53 uh
01:16:56 uh well I don’t think he says good but I
01:16:58 would say that would be included I don’t
01:17:01 think he sets
01:17:02 holy but but stuff like not burdensome
01:17:06 yeah
01:17:07 uh
01:17:10 but I I mean we did this another
01:17:13 scripture study pretty much every
01:17:16 definition oh I think we focused on the
01:17:18 one in the Book of Mormon because we’re
01:17:19 showing Book of Mormon teach Torah after
01:17:22 the law I mean yeah we were tore after
01:17:24 the resurrection I got to get my word
01:17:25 straight
01:17:27 um
01:17:29 in every point that Moroni I mean
01:17:31 mormonless because it’s a
01:17:33 a letter that Moroni put in from his
01:17:35 father Mormon
01:17:36 is a commandment from Torah right yeah
01:17:40 and
01:17:42 Galatians 5.
01:17:45 uh the fruits of the spirit are
01:17:47 Commandments from Torah and
01:17:50 the list of Charity from Paul I don’t
01:17:52 know that one off by my heart but I it’s
01:17:55 roughly the statement definitely without
01:17:57 looking at it it’s
01:17:59 points it’s roughly the same as it’s
01:18:01 roughly the same as what Mormon right
01:18:03 stuff I mean we’d go look at it if we’re
01:18:06 worried about it but
01:18:08 it’s roughly the same as that of Mormon
01:18:11 yeah because charity and we can go look
01:18:14 at this real quick
01:18:16 is the Hebrew word
01:18:19 yes for keeping the law yeah this is the
01:18:23 the this is the point that I was wanting
01:18:25 to bring back around again here so
01:18:29 here’s charity Hebrew I can’t say that
01:18:32 there we go all right we’re literally
01:18:35 meaning justice of righteousness but
01:18:37 calling these to say signify charity is
01:18:41 definite concept of Charity from
01:18:44 tazuck is obligation
01:18:46 and charity understood spontaneous As
01:18:50 Good Will and maker of generosity so one
01:18:53 of The Commandments is take care of the
01:18:54 widows and the fatherless which is what
01:18:57 generally people that’s the only part
01:18:59 people generally apply to charity
01:19:01 because charity is given to them
01:19:05 and they’re actually doing and in this
01:19:07 world they actually do a remarkably bad
01:19:09 job
01:19:10 yeah most Charities actually most of the
01:19:13 money that goes to Charities goes to
01:19:15 Administration pennies they do a really
01:19:19 bad they do a really bad job of taking
01:19:21 care of the widows and fatherless yeah
01:19:23 which is one of the reasons part of it
01:19:24 actually there’s multiple parts to
01:19:26 tithing but one part is that you give to
01:19:29 the poor directly yourself
01:19:34 but anyways
01:19:36 um
01:19:38 obligation some of the parts some of the
01:19:40 parts of tithing require an organization
01:19:42 to actually
01:19:44 there is a part where you’re supposed to
01:19:46 give to the Levites um part of it to
01:19:48 take care of the Levites but another
01:19:50 part is to take care of the actual poor
01:19:52 so there’s multiple aspects to tithing I
01:19:55 mean not even even to the fact that
01:19:57 you’re not trying to
01:19:59 make full profit of what your Harvest is
01:20:03 is part of tithing for example you’re
01:20:06 not supposed to glean the corners of
01:20:08 your fields and you’re supposed to give
01:20:10 that to the poor which
01:20:12 to play it in our non-farmers is you
01:20:15 don’t
01:20:17 try to make profit too extreme
01:20:19 right anyways
01:20:22 um
01:20:24 but
01:20:25 that means righteousness
01:20:29 yeah the word the word acidic that word
01:20:32 means righteousness which is keeping the
01:20:36 law
01:20:37 which is the root of Charity so Stephen
01:20:41 I want you to make a symbol sound
01:20:46 make a symbol sound
01:20:50 ing oh
01:20:52 aesthetic okay pathetic
01:20:56 okay so you’re not referring to uh uh
01:21:00 Paul’s First Corinthians 13 on the uh
01:21:02 sounding breath and symbol then huh
01:21:05 [Laughter]
01:21:06 charity
01:21:10 anyways okay so that was probably a good
01:21:14 Sidetrack on that one
01:21:15 um but yeah but that’s but that’s that’s
01:21:19 the whole thing
01:21:20 people talk about
01:21:23 knowing people talk about knowing
01:21:26 whether a one of the ways that you can
01:21:29 know a true Messenger
01:21:31 is that they teach you is that they
01:21:34 teach charity
01:21:36 but charity is keeping the law exactly
01:21:40 I I mean we only went a little bit into
01:21:43 it because I mean this is somewhat of
01:21:45 sidetracked but I along those lines Book
01:21:48 of Mormon actually States
01:21:51 don’t teach teachers unless they’re
01:21:53 keeping the law
01:21:54 which
01:21:56 don’t teach a teacher unless they’re
01:21:58 doing charity because charity is the law
01:22:00 right the same thing just a different
01:22:03 word a different way of presenting the
01:22:05 same concept part of the reason why
01:22:08 these concepts are taught and different
01:22:12 ways is so we can see the depth the
01:22:15 reason we have two eyes to see is so we
01:22:18 can see depth and also and also there if
01:22:22 you teach something in multiple ways
01:22:24 somebody who doesn’t get one way will
01:22:27 possibly get another one correct yeah so
01:22:30 there’s multiple reasons to to do the
01:22:33 different imageries to teach the same
01:22:35 thing
01:22:37 yeah
01:22:39 so but a lot of these people try to make
01:22:42 them something different instead of this
01:22:44 well and and the the worst thing that
01:22:47 ever happened is when we decided the
01:22:51 charity that love is when we decided
01:22:54 that love was a feeling and not an
01:22:55 action and therefore charity became this
01:22:58 super spiritual thing that was some kind
01:23:01 of a spiritual gift that’s
01:23:03 imbued on you by some spiritual being
01:23:06 so I
01:23:09 the scriptures teach love is an action
01:23:12 doing and specifically keeping promises
01:23:16 I mean part of the reason why we’re
01:23:18 married we we actually make a covenant
01:23:23 When we married
01:23:26 is because sometimes that’s needed
01:23:29 it’s that Covenant to do the action
01:23:32 despite
01:23:35 being rich or poor help
01:23:39 first sick I don’t remember the other
01:23:41 ones off on my head but you get the
01:23:43 point
01:23:44 it’s keeping the promise
01:23:47 that is love
01:23:49 the idea that love is a Feeling
01:23:54 is to distort the truth
01:23:57 it’s really not a feeling if you love me
01:24:03 let’s keep my Commandments
01:24:07 nah
01:24:09 let’s see so so therefore the Pure Love
01:24:12 Of Christ is keeping his Commandments
01:24:16 exactly
01:24:18 exactly exactly so the thing is
01:24:22 Pure Love Of Christ is not necessarily
01:24:25 his love is not it’s yes it’s his love
01:24:28 for us but it’s also our love for him
01:24:32 yeah
01:24:33 yeah
01:24:34 it’s our Pure Love for Christ
01:24:38 uh in fact let’s actually let’s go look
01:24:40 at the word pure since we’re bringing
01:24:41 since you brought that up that was a
01:24:43 good word to look at
01:24:45 yes yeah I like that word let’s have a
01:24:50 pure and understood
01:24:55 oh pure separation from heterogeneous or
01:25:00 externiest man
01:25:03 that exactly goes with the pure blood of
01:25:05 Christ right
01:25:06 separated from everything else yeah from
01:25:10 Babylon separation from Babylon
01:25:15 free from moral defilement oh boy
01:25:19 [Laughter]
01:25:22 keep his Commandments
01:25:25 um genuine real genuine is something you
01:25:28 do even when it’s hard right yes
01:25:32 unadulterated oh that sounds like
01:25:34 endured at the end
01:25:36 pure religion
01:25:38 um well I mean that that goes along with
01:25:40 helping the
01:25:42 um
01:25:44 that is symbolic
01:25:47 well widowed
01:25:50 we are because Yeshua is our father and
01:25:54 he died and plus there’s another
01:25:57 who’s the childless
01:25:59 those who have not accepted Joshua as
01:26:02 the father and that’s right
01:26:06 like uh the widows
01:26:09 if you look at it prophetically the
01:26:11 Widow is Zion mm-hmm
01:26:14 the Widow is Zion
01:26:16 because because
01:26:21 made a widow and desolate from the
01:26:25 fatherless
01:26:26 are the children of Zion who have left
01:26:28 who have left their father
01:26:32 okay so next definition unmixed oh don’t
01:26:36 mix
01:26:38 Babylonian ideas
01:26:40 like oh my goodness
01:26:42 oh free from guilt some guilt oh that
01:26:45 means uh don’t sin
01:26:48 Guiltless innocent if you love me keep
01:26:51 my Commandments what is that an extra no
01:26:53 hand of strife is pure but that which
01:26:56 wins oh man
01:26:58 we’ll talk about an evil philosophy
01:27:01 right there Yeshua wins yeah
01:27:04 foreign
01:27:20 [Music]
01:27:24 to vidiate means to spoil or impair the
01:27:29 quality or efficiency of
01:27:32 is boil well
01:27:34 um if you’re trying to mix
01:27:39 [Music]
01:27:43 um
01:27:45 in pure
01:27:47 rendered in pure rendered defective and
01:27:49 void
01:27:51 um just like the politicians like Yeshua
01:27:53 say it makes the Torah no unemployed
01:27:55 right yes the Traditions gitiate Torah
01:27:59 yeah okay all right
01:28:03 um
01:28:04 just interested uh okay so that’s like
01:28:08 oh
01:28:10 saying with your lips but your Harps are
01:28:12 far from them
01:28:13 all right all right yeah Chase pure
01:28:17 virgin oh Chase meaning you’re not going
01:28:20 after other
01:28:22 husbands
01:28:23 Oh I thought Chase I thought chaste is
01:28:26 what happens when the police are after
01:28:27 or after you well there’s that too but I
01:28:32 a different spelling there’s a different
01:28:35 spelling I don’t think that’s the vert
01:28:37 the definition is talking about yeah
01:28:40 a pure virgin AKA or Ben uh Ben I think
01:28:46 you’ve had too much wine without your
01:28:48 bread
01:28:48 [Laughter]
01:28:54 yeah sorry
01:28:56 so Chase as a pure Virgin of course
01:29:00 virgin being a woman of child bearing
01:29:03 years yeah the poop brings others
01:29:07 to Yeshua because yeah children children
01:29:11 are followers of Yeshua yes yep free
01:29:16 form free from Vice or moral turpitude
01:29:21 well that’s uh you know thinning
01:29:24 basically right yep yeah free from sin
01:29:27 ceremonially unclean unpolluted
01:29:31 um yeah that one’s more for the Levites
01:29:34 but yeah yeah uh uh freed from anything
01:29:38 improper as his motives are pure huh
01:29:42 well yeah we’re 197 talks about even if
01:29:45 you do well all I have is attention all
01:29:47 I all I have to say about his motives
01:29:49 are peers that the road to hell is paved
01:29:51 with good intentions
01:29:53 and yeah
01:29:56 we’re on A7 if you do it for the wrong
01:30:00 reason this counters as wickedness well
01:30:03 that’s true I mean yeah I that’s not
01:30:05 exactly how it says it but right
01:30:07 same thing
01:30:09 a mirror absolute uh okay so
01:30:15 well absolute Torah right anyways that
01:30:20 one’s a little I mean all of these
01:30:21 definitions apply here yeah yeah
01:30:25 and even the transitive the verb
01:30:29 transitive to purified
01:30:31 yeah who cleanses
01:30:34 yeah for sure why the pure the pure love
01:30:37 and quiet and the Pure Love Of Christ
01:30:38 cleanses us
01:30:40 because we Covenant with him
01:30:42 and love him and what is the pure love
01:30:46 of Christ in that how wherein is it
01:30:48 found in that we keep his Commandments
01:30:57 I do pretty good when I’m in my cups
01:31:00 brother
01:31:07 [Music]
01:31:13 and served with Elohim
01:31:15 wherefore I know that the redeem
01:31:18 okay now has behold that in the fullness
01:31:21 of time he cometh to bring the salvation
01:31:24 of men so
01:31:26 Jacob
01:31:30 saw yeshua’s mortal Ministry he’s a
01:31:34 witness
01:31:35 and he saw more so let’s go into the
01:31:37 next verse I really love this so well
01:31:40 that’s my section so we can you want to
01:31:42 take the next section
01:31:43 yeah
01:31:44 and that has to be held in thy youth his
01:31:47 glory
01:31:50 to say he he’s been in the Shekinah
01:31:53 glory of the Lord yeah he saw face to
01:31:56 face or four eyes
01:31:58 as in Hebrew but face to face in English
01:32:02 wherefore Thou Art blessed yeah
01:32:05 wherefore Thou Art blessed even as uh as
01:32:08 they unto whom he shall minister in the
01:32:10 flesh the spirit is the same yesterday
01:32:14 today and forever real quick I just want
01:32:17 to bring this is bringing out that he
01:32:19 saw him right yes even as they have
01:32:22 ministered onto the plus I mean not
01:32:24 everybody accepted him but
01:32:26 like
01:32:27 Peter he he gets some rap right right
01:32:33 I mean I
01:32:35 looking at myself I think I deserve some
01:32:37 of the same rap that Peter got
01:32:39 to be honest honestly I think we all do
01:32:43 well I’m applying it to me right now but
01:32:46 yeah he got over it he changed
01:32:50 he was born again yeah
01:32:54 anyways okay
01:32:55 brother spirit is the same yesterday
01:32:58 today and forever for this Behavior
01:33:01 we’re supposed to keep
01:33:04 that’s the interesting thing is if the
01:33:07 spirit
01:33:08 if the spirit is actually a person
01:33:12 persons don’t necessarily stay the same
01:33:14 all the time
01:33:17 what the law stays the same
01:33:20 yeah and it I mean we know that spirit’s
01:33:23 not a person but I I think you’re just
01:33:25 using that as the contrast to bring up
01:33:26 the problem with that idea yeah it’s
01:33:28 something because of what we talked
01:33:30 about earlier right wow and I have a few
01:33:33 posts on it
01:33:35 yeah for the spirit is the same
01:33:37 yesterday today and forever and the way
01:33:40 is prepared from the fall of Man this is
01:33:43 the reference to the fact that Adam had
01:33:48 the law
01:33:50 correct but I I can show that from Alma
01:33:54 12 if we ever want to go there but we’ll
01:33:57 stay here unless you guys want but I can
01:33:59 show that from now I loved it I love
01:34:02 this last part because it just shows
01:34:04 that we’re all saved from Death it’s the
01:34:06 whole point of Salvation is free
01:34:09 that’s the whole point of the atonement
01:34:12 yeah that all men are saved Not all men
01:34:16 will receive Glory or you know
01:34:20 foreign
01:34:36 yes that’s what that’s the Salvation
01:34:39 he’s talking that’s my point because
01:34:40 that’s what he’s talking about but
01:34:42 actually salvation Salvation on all
01:34:45 levels and physical salvation is free
01:34:49 because the whole point is the whole
01:34:53 point is is later on in this very same
01:34:55 lecture he’s going to go into the fact
01:34:57 that we all have the right to choose
01:34:59 given to us that’s true it’s free and in
01:35:02 fact
01:35:03 here’s a book of Mormon quotes I think
01:35:07 this one’s Isaiah
01:35:09 come by milk and honey without rice
01:35:13 without price
01:35:16 Commandments honey is Torah yes I mean
01:35:20 it’s the same thing but so but so
01:35:23 salvation is free salvation’s free
01:35:26 period spiritual and physical they’re
01:35:30 both free
01:35:31 mm-hmm we just don’t always choose to
01:35:34 take them
01:35:35 correct that’s I I mean I actually think
01:35:39 this
01:35:41 how people talk about you know you can
01:35:44 be given a gift
01:35:46 but it does you no good unless you open
01:35:48 it right yeah right right I I think this
01:35:51 that actual good
01:35:52 analogy
01:35:54 for this particular for everyone and
01:35:57 it’s given to everyone
01:36:02 few accepted
01:36:03 yeah
01:36:05 and men are instructed sufficiently that
01:36:08 they know good from Evil yeah and the
01:36:11 law is given unto men so I mean
01:36:16 um it’s interesting how he talks about
01:36:18 the law here and the law is given unto
01:36:20 men
01:36:20 and Men
01:36:22 not children men adults but but for me
01:36:26 the idea the the interesting thing the
01:36:29 interesting thing is the way that is the
01:36:31 context in which it’s stated the law is
01:36:34 given unto men it’s like it’s a gift the
01:36:35 law is a gift it’s given oh yeah that’s
01:36:38 true
01:36:41 um yeah it’s not
01:36:42 force and it’s not imposed yeah in fact
01:36:47 um
01:36:48 put on men are strictly sufficiently
01:36:51 that this type Moroni seven
01:36:56 um was
01:36:58 Moroni seven or eight no it’s seven but
01:37:01 I’m thinking that
01:37:03 um
01:37:07 oh
01:37:08 uh hold on let me go find another one so
01:37:11 I can do a search
01:37:13 the the search and Kindle is horrible
01:37:17 [Music]
01:37:18 um
01:37:21 so maybe I’ll
01:37:23 switch screens I like reading the other
01:37:25 one but the search there is horrible
01:37:28 yeah I hear you
01:37:31 yeah
01:37:33 I’m in the screen okay
01:37:46 I said all men
01:37:52 are we yeah right there no
01:37:58 no oh yeah seven it brings out Hall
01:38:04 all men are given the spirit
01:38:08 so type in given the spirit yeah
01:38:11 honestly
01:38:13 oh
01:38:15 let me just dirt
01:38:17 uh it’s like light
01:38:21 okay
01:38:26 and now I’ve really seen that you know
01:38:29 the
01:38:31 okay
01:38:36 uh you know sometimes knowing how it
01:38:39 said multiple ways or can be said
01:38:41 multiple ways can be a bad thing because
01:38:42 then I can’t remember what I said here
01:38:57 because it’s something that all men are
01:39:00 given the Light of Christ or something
01:39:02 to that oh yeah yeah
01:39:07 stop moving go back up sorry sorry
01:39:12 they’re moving again stop it sorry
01:39:20 no no no no no
01:39:22 master
01:39:24 hey which verse is it that states the
01:39:27 light is a crisis oh man I I’m gonna
01:39:31 stop kidding myself and I’m going
01:39:35 to just do a general search no I’m gonna
01:39:38 go to a post because I know I have it
01:39:40 there
01:39:44 ah
01:39:47 I already did my homework let’s go look
01:39:49 at what I did from some homework
01:39:52 so all
01:39:55 so if you haven’t read this
01:39:58 please do
01:40:02 um I know it’s long but it’s worth it
01:40:08 those are all things you should do yeah
01:40:12 um in fact Matt and Ben both gave two
01:40:15 suggestions one suggestion each that I
01:40:17 put in
01:40:18 um
01:40:27 foreign
01:40:35 seeing that you know the lights Torah by
01:40:39 which he may judge which light is the
01:40:42 light of or from
01:40:45 Yeshua hamashiach
01:40:48 what I’m thinking of though see that you
01:40:50 do not judge wrongfully for with that
01:40:53 same judgment which he judge he shall
01:40:55 also be judged
01:40:58 Brethren that you should search
01:41:00 diligence the spirit of Christ is given
01:41:02 to every man in verse 16. oh is that
01:41:05 what it is it’s the spirit of Christ uh
01:41:07 okay all right yeah you’re right okay so
01:41:09 let’s go look at this so it’s in verse
01:41:11 16 of chapter seven okay okay I knew it
01:41:14 was in that chapter yes
01:41:17 if you think about it the spirit of
01:41:19 Christ is the are the behaviors of
01:41:22 Christ
01:41:23 yeah it’s just the the law is given to
01:41:28 all to everything man which goes back
01:41:32 and I’m just bringing out two witnesses
01:41:35 right two or three Witnesses what it’s
01:41:37 saying in second ink by two the law is
01:41:40 given to all adults
01:41:45 um so it’s right there so I
01:41:47 the spirit of Christ is given to every
01:41:49 man okay that’s what I was looking for
01:41:51 he made no good for me
01:41:54 yeah
01:41:56 um and and no it’s not some mystical
01:42:01 mumbo jumbo thing it’s it’s not a man
01:42:04 like
01:42:06 the man it was Brigham Young putting the
01:42:09 tree try on God back
01:42:12 into the restoration because Joseph
01:42:15 Smith got right here
01:42:18 but Joseph Smith
01:42:22 it’s pretty clear how it’s pretty clear
01:42:25 from lectures on faith five where Joseph
01:42:27 Smith stood on the Mage for the police
01:42:30 oh yeah it’s very clear
01:42:33 this is people want to reject it but
01:42:35 anyways all right so back to this
01:42:40 uh I forget where we left off
01:42:43 okay uh Salvation is free
01:42:46 um better uh the law is given on to men
01:42:49 yeah
01:42:52 and by the laws by the law no flesh is
01:42:55 Justified
01:42:57 I just wanted because all have sinned
01:43:00 but one that’s why so no flesh is
01:43:03 justified by the law the justification
01:43:05 has to be provided by Our Redeemer
01:43:08 correct because
01:43:11 right or by the law men are cut off okay
01:43:14 by the temporal law they were cut off
01:43:16 and also by the spiritual laws another
01:43:19 way of saying that by the way
01:43:21 or by sin the breaking of the law men
01:43:26 are yes and by the breaking of the law
01:43:28 that matter it’s interesting that after
01:43:30 the justification
01:43:32 it’s by the law that it’s by the law
01:43:35 through the spirit that we’re brought to
01:43:36 him correct uh where’s that I’m uh I
01:43:40 mean I’m a DNC 84 88 I always I get
01:43:44 those two mixed up
01:43:45 but we have to be justified first yes
01:43:48 justification first
01:43:51 um and then sanctification
01:43:52 sanctification
01:43:56 justification is an event sanctification
01:43:59 is a process
01:44:01 yeah
01:44:02 and you’ll
01:44:04 and yeah
01:44:07 it’s a process marked by events I’ll put
01:44:11 it I’ll put it yeah yeah
01:44:13 but it’s what sanctification takes time
01:44:17 is more what I for most yeah it’s very
01:44:21 rare just boom
01:44:23 right right
01:44:25 um I’m on the younger I
01:44:28 could have been
01:44:30 um
01:44:31 sanctification right away but he knew
01:44:34 the law he was taught the law right
01:44:39 yeah but anyways that’s another subject
01:44:43 and also by this okay uh or by the law
01:44:46 our
01:44:48 laws no flesh no flesh is Justified and
01:44:51 cut off temporal law they were cut off
01:44:53 also by the spiritual law they perished
01:44:55 from that which is good and become
01:44:56 miserable forever look at it so this is
01:45:00 kind of saying like
01:45:02 there is no
01:45:05 per se temporal everything that Yahweh
01:45:07 gives is spiritual but he also with
01:45:11 these spiritual laws gives temporal
01:45:13 applications of it right right and so
01:45:16 they’re both tied together
01:45:18 [Music]
01:45:20 and even Nephi at other times and shows
01:45:25 how it’s spiritual and temporal okay
01:45:28 let’s uh right
01:45:30 let’s go look at what Nephi said first
01:45:33 D5 17.
01:45:35 uh okay
01:45:37 we’re gonna have 15 sorry first thing
01:45:39 about 15. when his brothers are asking
01:45:41 him questions he’s like is this temporal
01:45:44 or spiritual or yes yes
01:45:53 here I have 14
01:45:56 but it’s it’s after his tree Life vision
01:45:59 right because
01:46:01 that might be foreign
01:46:07 of God that I will work great Marvel’s
01:46:10 work among the children of men and work
01:46:11 which shall be Everlasting either on the
01:46:13 one hand or the other either to the
01:46:15 Convention of them unto peace not the
01:46:17 life eternal or the Deliverance of them
01:46:18 to the hardness of their hearts the
01:46:20 blindness of their minds under their
01:46:22 being brought down into captivity and
01:46:24 also into destruction both temporally
01:46:25 and spiritually
01:46:28 um yeah but the one I’m thinking about I
01:46:30 think is a difference okay
01:46:34 well I’m don’t doubt there’s others yeah
01:46:38 I think we might I think the one I’m
01:46:40 thinking about is
01:46:42 somewhat different
01:46:44 okay
01:46:46 um
01:46:50 okay it’s uh
01:46:54 doing a quick search on that chapter I I
01:46:57 didn’t see anything so have you inquired
01:47:00 of the Lord if we have not the Lord
01:47:01 maketh no such thing none unto us I
01:47:03 always find that one funny
01:47:05 we haven’t inspired of him because he
01:47:07 doesn’t
01:47:09 I
01:47:13 yeah how is it the how does it eat the
01:47:16 gift of tongues is not babble
01:47:19 but it’s okay it’s like and I said unto
01:47:22 them heavy inquired of the Lord and they
01:47:24 said unto me this is just something that
01:47:27 I find funny
01:47:28 and they said unto me we have not for
01:47:30 the Lord maketh no such thing known unto
01:47:32 us
01:47:33 it’s like they have exactly backwards
01:47:36 they they have it exactly backwards
01:47:40 yeah they haven’t acquired but they
01:47:43 probably haven’t inquired because they
01:47:44 don’t get answers because
01:47:45 they’re Wicked off like we talked about
01:47:48 earlier today but let’s see uh
01:47:52 because you know I’ll be honest
01:47:54 University
01:47:56 at times
01:47:58 but they probably got frustrated when
01:48:00 they didn’t get answers because they
01:48:01 didn’t keep the law so they just
01:48:03 probably stopped yeah uh
01:48:21 yeah and they said unto me does this
01:48:24 thing mean the torment of the body in
01:48:25 the days of probation or does it mean
01:48:27 the final state of the of the Soul after
01:48:30 the death of the temporal body or does
01:48:32 it speak of things which are temporal
01:48:34 and it came to so this is this is where
01:48:37 they asked that question it’s a temporal
01:48:39 or spiritual basically and it came to
01:48:41 pass and I said unto them
01:48:44 in verse 32 that it was a representation
01:48:47 of things both temporal and spiritual so
01:48:50 I said unto them yes yeah that’s another
01:48:53 instance of the 14 which is interesting
01:48:57 just in the previous chapter he said the
01:49:00 same thing and they still didn’t get it
01:49:01 all right for the day should come that
01:49:04 they must be judged of their works yeah
01:49:06 even the works which were done in the by
01:49:08 the temporal body and the days of their
01:49:10 probation wherefore if they should die
01:49:12 in their wickedness they must be cast
01:49:14 off also as to the things which are
01:49:16 spiritual which are pertaining to
01:49:18 righteousness wherefore they must be
01:49:21 brought to stand before God to be judged
01:49:23 of their works and if their Works have
01:49:25 been filthiness they must needs be
01:49:27 filthy I’m sorry there’s nothing in here
01:49:30 indicating that they get a chance that
01:49:32 they get a mulligan well this is a verse
01:49:35 33 is definitely teaching against
01:49:38 baptisms for the Dead
01:49:40 but yeah I wanna
01:49:42 well the other thing about verse 33 is
01:49:46 that there’s nothing in there mentioning
01:49:47 a mulligan you don’t get another shot
01:49:51 oh yeah that’s against baptisms for the
01:49:53 dead but same thing right it’s this is
01:49:57 the life yeah also no multiple also no
01:50:00 multiple mortal probations uh yes
01:50:02 there’s that one too I I it
01:50:06 they’re both
01:50:07 problems right
01:50:10 the problems of a different nature but
01:50:12 problems yes yeah yeah so I
01:50:18 oh I already have that one okay
01:50:20 um but yes I agree with you but behold I
01:50:23 say unto you the kingdom of God is Not
01:50:25 filthy and there cannot any unclean
01:50:27 thing enter into the kingdom of God and
01:50:29 so yes so that right there in verse
01:50:32 verse 31 to 32 that’s that thing that I
01:50:35 always quote where it’s like is it
01:50:37 temporal or spiritual and I said yes
01:50:39 yeah so and I have another one
01:50:43 here I actually have a couple others
01:50:45 let’s go
01:50:46 since we’re on that
01:50:49 uh
01:50:59 so I just added this one but then
01:51:02 there’s uh first name by 22 or for
01:51:06 things which I have read are things
01:51:07 pertaining to things both temporal and
01:51:10 spiritual
01:51:13 right because there’s nothing spiritual
01:51:16 but has a temporal aspect and there’s
01:51:18 nothing temporal but what has a
01:51:19 spiritual aspect all right well DNC 29
01:51:21 All Things Are Spiritual not anytime I
01:51:24 have given to you a law that was
01:51:25 temporal so all these people that are
01:51:28 thinking
01:51:28 these temporal laws they you know in
01:51:31 Torah it just doesn’t apply to them oh
01:51:33 wait a minute
01:51:36 oh oh he gave nothing ever that was
01:51:40 temporal it was all spiritual
01:51:43 oh wait a minute wait a minute we’re
01:51:46 just gonna cut that section out of the
01:51:47 doctrine of covenants oh I’m sure people
01:51:49 do that but well everybody well the
01:51:52 Doctrine and Covenants everybody Cuts
01:51:54 everybody cuts out everybody cuts out
01:51:56 the parts that they don’t like well uh
01:51:59 so along with that
01:52:01 just as a disclaimer
01:52:03 or if I could ah if I could fight uh
01:52:08 there are sections I actually believe
01:52:09 there are are not authentic but I don’t
01:52:12 just cut them out because I don’t like
01:52:13 them I cut them out because they’re
01:52:15 contradicting other scriptures so right
01:52:17 but I’m I’m speaking about the I’m
01:52:20 speaking about the fact that there are
01:52:21 people who uh that there that everybody
01:52:25 everybody
01:52:27 has their sections of the Doctrine and
01:52:29 Covenants which is why my point is is
01:52:32 that this is why the Doctrine and
01:52:34 Covenants
01:52:35 is not placed up there with the Book of
01:52:38 Mormon in the Bible is the Arbiter of
01:52:40 truth because right in fact
01:52:44 the Mormon States we should focus on the
01:52:47 Book of Mormon and
01:52:49 Bible
01:52:50 right yeah and Joseph Smith State the
01:52:53 same thing oh yeah well I think he got
01:52:55 it from The Book of Mormon to be honest
01:52:57 yeah
01:52:59 I don’t study Joseph Smith works very
01:53:01 much because
01:53:03 there’s a lot of problems they’ve been
01:53:05 modified but well either they’ve been
01:53:08 either they’ve been modified or
01:53:10 sometimes he did not speak in an
01:53:12 inspired way
01:53:13 well it’s saying not to trust his word
01:53:16 implicitly he did he did warn us not to
01:53:19 trust me I think he was perfect
01:53:21 um but I I think more of the problem is
01:53:24 they’ve been modified and pretended or
01:53:28 just completely made out of
01:53:30 a claw or what’s that I forget that
01:53:32 idiom but whole cloth is that yeah whole
01:53:36 cloth which means it just they just made
01:53:38 it up right
01:53:40 but the ones that I do like and I do
01:53:43 believe actually I’ve seen the Book of
01:53:46 Mormon in fact I see a lot of this stuff
01:53:48 in the DNC in Book of Mormon but
01:53:53 although Joe Smith translate I think
01:53:56 the fact that a lot of things were
01:53:57 repeating in the Book of Mormon I I mean
01:54:00 from The Book of Mormon in the DNC
01:54:03 is evidence that Joseph Smith didn’t
01:54:05 make it up he was actually really was
01:54:09 translating right he was in the
01:54:13 DNC at times
01:54:15 because he didn’t memorize it he was
01:54:18 translating it
01:54:20 and because of everything else he was
01:54:22 doing
01:54:24 and he doesn’t have control F like we do
01:54:28 today right right
01:54:31 [Laughter]
01:54:33 control he didn’t have the time to go
01:54:35 read it and
01:54:37 go
01:54:40 does Matt want to say something or no I
01:54:44 was just I was just being he’s being a
01:54:47 schmuck I was being a Pharisee I’m sorry
01:54:49 oh okay all right I’m saying it’s
01:54:51 control V but anyway yeah that’s coffee
01:54:55 paste control F is search
01:55:02 your phariseism is wrong but anyways
01:55:06 okay so sir that that’s the circle I’ve
01:55:10 never I’ve never really searched that
01:55:12 one out I I just oh
01:55:17 watch this watch this I’ll highlight a
01:55:20 whole word at the same time oh that’s
01:55:23 control shift Arrow anyways I know a lot
01:55:27 of people
01:55:30 I’m a software engineer I I live in text
01:55:34 right it’s more codex so it’s a little
01:55:37 different but yeah
01:55:40 um
01:55:40 but more was getting at is
01:55:45 Joseph Smith hadn’t
01:55:46 had the time to study it out as like we
01:55:49 do right I I don’t have a church to run
01:55:52 I study
01:55:54 I’m my leisure Joe Smith didn’t have
01:55:58 that
01:56:02 benefits like I’m I’m old I’m 42 which
01:56:07 is the age of the cult of knowing
01:56:08 everything right anyways where is the um
01:56:13 where is the what are your thoughts on
01:56:16 the um what are your thoughts on the uh
01:56:20 David Whitmer letter
01:56:24 the one that basically said to Joseph
01:56:26 Joseph should never have made the church
01:56:30 oh that letter has multiple aspects to
01:56:33 it it’s
01:56:34 the letter to all believers or something
01:56:36 to that effect yes
01:56:41 he was sorrowful that people didn’t
01:56:46 follow him
01:56:48 he
01:56:50 I don’t know if he lied on purpose but
01:56:52 there’s a lot of mistrust in that and so
01:56:54 I think that Pride was hurt and that was
01:56:58 his response to his broken Pride or his
01:57:01 pride coming out
01:57:03 yeah because he because he did organize
01:57:06 another church he did he put himself so
01:57:10 so
01:57:11 which gives him the which gives the
01:57:14 letter the lie and the fact that he
01:57:16 himself just went out and organized the
01:57:18 church right after back
01:57:20 he he just kind of did what he
01:57:24 supposedly called Joseph Smith out for
01:57:26 in fact it’s interesting
01:57:29 um
01:57:30 a technique of the occult is to blame
01:57:33 someone else for what you just did
01:57:37 or are doing yeah yeah
01:57:41 it’s called Soft disclosure
01:57:44 uh I didn’t I didn’t know that name but
01:57:46 yeah
01:57:48 yeah that’s basically where you’re
01:57:49 making an announcement but sometimes
01:57:52 it’s it can be done by blaming another
01:57:55 person or it can be sure yeah making a
01:58:00 general vague statement
01:58:06 I think he was doing that
01:58:09 there’s a lot in there that are just
01:58:11 flat out lies also right there’s some in
01:58:15 it that might be misunderstandings
01:58:18 uh it’s been a while since I’ve read it
01:58:22 but I do remember bits and pieces of it
01:58:24 or the general idea of it
01:58:27 and
01:58:29 it’s his hurt Pride to be honest
01:58:33 yeah I I tend to agree
01:58:36 um I as I’ve always told people about it
01:58:39 it’s you have to bear in mind
01:58:43 who where it’s coming from
01:58:46 yeah
01:58:48 and there’s things in it that are
01:58:50 actually historically inaccurate in it
01:58:53 um yeah so and he was there
01:58:57 yeah
01:58:59 there are Parts he knew he was lying to
01:59:01 be honest yeah
01:59:04 it was there from the beginning of the
01:59:06 onset of the church
01:59:08 and really the really the beginning of
01:59:12 the end for him was the
01:59:14 failed attempt at the restaurant as the
01:59:18 failed attempt at the restoration of the
01:59:20 priesthood of the highest order of
01:59:22 priests did at the Isaac Morley Farm
01:59:25 all right sorry say that one more time
01:59:27 it was the attempt it was the attempt to
01:59:29 restore the highest order of the
01:59:31 priesthood at the Isaac born with one
01:59:35 um I don’t know the history on that one
01:59:37 in June in June of 1831 there was a
01:59:40 conference he was not in he was not
01:59:43 there at which people which people were
01:59:47 ordained for the first time ever in the
01:59:49 history of the church to the high
01:59:52 priesthood
01:59:54 to be high priests
01:59:57 okay well that’s done by the voice of
02:00:00 Yahweh so well yeah well there there’s a
02:00:05 lot of really interesting things
02:00:09 if you go into the history of that
02:00:12 meeting there’s a lot of really
02:00:13 interesting things that were happening
02:00:16 apparently the priesthood was being
02:00:18 given by the laying on of hands
02:00:21 well appendages can and are done that
02:00:24 way but
02:00:28 this was
02:00:32 this was people being ordained to be
02:00:34 high priests
02:00:36 and Joseph Smith was doing the ordaining
02:00:39 oh well but there are things I know you
02:00:42 have to look at there are things there
02:00:45 are things in there it’s make it like
02:00:47 which make it seem like it could have
02:00:50 been Joseph Smith the word could have
02:00:52 been God or it could have been but
02:00:54 there’s a lot of strange there’s a lot
02:00:56 of strangeness around the reporting of
02:00:58 the event but okay wow
02:01:01 you know all this history is not the
02:01:04 best
02:01:06 um and also sometimes
02:01:09 [Music]
02:01:09 um
02:01:11 some things are done by laying off hands
02:01:14 and some things are are not even in the
02:01:16 Book of Mormon because like yeah the
02:01:20 when Yeshua came
02:01:22 uh after his resurrection to the
02:01:24 apostles
02:01:26 they got the power
02:01:29 by his voice
02:01:32 but they were set apart by the laying of
02:01:36 hands right so
02:01:39 um
02:01:40 we have to go maybe go look in some
02:01:42 specifics right you have to look we’d
02:01:45 have to look at the experience and then
02:01:47 we’d have to look at other things
02:01:49 so the one also where they were casting
02:01:52 out doubles yeah where the where the
02:01:54 devil where the devil where the devil
02:01:56 came in and was taking where the devil
02:01:58 came into the meeting the mistaken all
02:02:00 the people but they were dazzling them
02:02:01 out by the power of the producer
02:02:04 okay
02:02:06 literally it is one hot mess like that
02:02:12 that whole
02:02:13 thing is a hot me a hotbed of activity
02:02:17 yeah it sounds like it I I mean if it’s
02:02:21 from the church history I I think it’s
02:02:23 debatable on things because bringing me
02:02:26 on modified those records but
02:02:29 but
02:02:34 I think it was but not everything but
02:02:36 not all this stuff is from the history
02:02:38 of the church which is primarily what he
02:02:41 modified
02:02:42 some of it’s from journals and yeah but
02:02:46 um I mean there’s a lot of false things
02:02:48 that we would both or all of us or at
02:02:51 least three of us would agree that our
02:02:52 false doctrines that are supposedly in
02:02:55 journals after the fact also no this is
02:02:57 true this is true that’s true to me that
02:03:01 doesn’t hold both weight because there’s
02:03:04 plenty of examples but but um but but it
02:03:09 was from my point is that it was from
02:03:12 that point
02:03:15 it would my point is is that it’s from
02:03:17 that point on that David Whitmer sours
02:03:21 on Joseph Smith
02:03:23 that’s the that’s my point
02:03:27 and it’s due to and it’s due to ambient
02:03:31 not having been ordained right away
02:03:33 though he was later ordained as a high
02:03:35 priest sure
02:03:37 um which would go along with the uh hurt
02:03:40 Pride
02:03:41 yep
02:03:44 um so Monica did put in a chat a message
02:03:49 in the chat just now that David Whitmer
02:03:51 did talk about it directly
02:03:55 um you want to say more about that
02:03:57 Monica because I yeah I don’t know what
02:04:01 to say about that because I I just I
02:04:03 know I don’t trust the letter
02:04:07 um well it was in his address to all
02:04:09 believers
02:04:10 yeah he talked about it the letter I I
02:04:13 have issues with on multiple aspects and
02:04:17 we’d have to go look at the specifics in
02:04:20 there but I overall though I just I
02:04:23 don’t trust that letter
02:04:25 you don’t trust that he wrote it or what
02:04:27 do you know I don’t trust what’s in it I
02:04:29 trust he wrote it I don’t trust what he
02:04:32 put in it
02:04:33 because it is that I brought up here
02:04:37 it just contradicts scriptures and
02:04:40 history
02:04:42 um
02:04:43 well for one if I remember correctly he
02:04:46 says bringing me on practice polygamy
02:04:49 and that he used a peep Stone
02:04:52 he did not use a peep Stone
02:04:55 Joseph Smith always used your own
02:04:58 uncommon or
02:05:00 um interpreters which is the same thing
02:05:02 human inter humor and Thurman wasn’t the
02:05:06 proper term but I think Joseph Smith
02:05:07 used that at times because others used
02:05:10 it and he just went with it the proper
02:05:12 terms interpreters
02:05:15 and he David whitmer’s in that one talks
02:05:19 about how he used the peep Stone in the
02:05:21 hat that didn’t happen
02:05:24 that is of the occult
02:05:26 seriously
02:05:28 that’s against Torah
02:05:33 now Joseph Smith didn’t restore
02:05:35 everything but
02:05:38 he didn’t do things against Torah
02:05:42 and bringing us the truth
02:05:44 you you can’t bring Truth by breaking it
02:05:53 right
02:05:57 Joseph Smith didn’t do a peep Stone
02:06:00 okay
02:06:01 and in that letter he States peepstone
02:06:06 in a hat
02:06:10 um
02:06:12 the other thing how do you know that for
02:06:15 sure
02:06:18 um
02:06:19 Torah
02:06:20 Joseph how do you know that Joseph Smith
02:06:22 didn’t use that
02:06:24 Joe’s misstated Euro and thumbman for
02:06:27 interpreters all the time soza is the
02:06:30 DNC which are words from Yahweh
02:06:36 I wonder why he would make that up
02:06:39 people whose Pride are broken make up
02:06:41 lots of things to make them look better
02:06:46 the key is in his the key is in his hurt
02:06:51 Pride at not being one of the first
02:06:54 ordained of the high priesthood
02:06:56 it’s really that simple Monica
02:06:58 okay
02:07:01 well I I actually I don’t know much
02:07:03 about him so so there’s a good chance
02:07:05 that that the timing on that actually
02:07:07 fits but I if you want I have
02:07:11 foreign
02:07:13 some articles and a book this book’s
02:07:15 actually
02:07:16 um
02:07:17 good that gets way in depth on these
02:07:21 issues if you want
02:07:24 um
02:07:25 so
02:07:27 just so you know this is from the Joseph
02:07:29 Smith Foundation Group which
02:07:33 they have some unique problems
02:07:36 this is an interesting little pit that
02:07:39 they were originally called Brigham
02:07:41 Young something I can’t remember and
02:07:43 then the church yeah they’re they’re
02:07:45 basically brighamite apologists yeah
02:07:48 that and that’s kind of what I was
02:07:49 getting at initially they were
02:07:52 something Brigham Young something I
02:07:54 don’t remember the original name and the
02:07:56 church went after them and sued them for
02:07:57 the name so they changed it to Joseph
02:08:00 Smith Foundation
02:08:02 their initial name was Brigham Young
02:08:04 not Joseph Smith so you only went to
02:08:06 Joseph Smith when the church sued them
02:08:09 over Brigham Young which is interesting
02:08:11 the church didn’t zoom over Joseph Smith
02:08:14 but they sued him over Brigham Young I
02:08:16 wonder who the church really cares about
02:08:19 anyways
02:08:21 um they do have some good things and
02:08:24 this is a book
02:08:25 um
02:08:26 and then they have some articles too
02:08:29 that my my my issue with the Joseph
02:08:33 Smith Foundation
02:08:36 is that on certain aspects I have found
02:08:39 their scholarship to be less than ideal
02:08:42 I agree with that but I I do think
02:08:46 this is these articles are helpful for
02:08:49 okay but I
02:08:51 I do agree with you and I I’ve
02:08:54 interacted with them on Facebook
02:08:57 personally
02:08:58 um and yeah likewise yeah
02:09:02 various areas their scholarship is very
02:09:06 lacking
02:09:07 um so well as sometimes lacking in
02:09:12 honesty as well I agree with that too
02:09:15 yeah
02:09:17 um and then when you bring it up to them
02:09:20 they get very upset
02:09:22 oh yeah
02:09:24 [Laughter]
02:09:26 security called again the um
02:09:33 the Joseph Smith people in fact
02:09:36 um the daughter I forget that off the
02:09:38 daughter’s name off my daughter
02:09:41 um
02:09:42 it’s the figurehead right because she’s
02:09:46 the one that has all the public speaking
02:09:48 for the most part
02:09:50 um anyways when I went up front with her
02:09:54 on one of
02:09:56 um
02:10:00 not Farms but
02:10:02 um
02:10:04 oh
02:10:07 foreign
02:10:12 on firm’s website
02:10:16 um that’s when they blocked me
02:10:18 yeah
02:10:20 after they complained about people
02:10:22 blocking them which I find ironic but
02:10:24 anyways but when I went bold up against
02:10:26 her and brought things out that they
02:10:29 heard problems with her scholarship
02:10:31 specifically polygamy that’s when they
02:10:34 blocked me
02:10:36 yeah so
02:10:38 but I with regards still with regards to
02:10:44 um with regards to David whitmer’s
02:10:49 uh with David whitmer’s claims in the
02:10:53 Whitmer letter they might be they might
02:10:56 well be trustworthy
02:11:00 um
02:11:01 and the in the uh addressed uh addressed
02:11:04 all believers they might well be true
02:11:07 they might be trustworthy on that
02:11:08 machine
02:11:10 well
02:11:12 you take this off what they say with the
02:11:13 grain of salt because they are
02:11:16 brighamite apologists I just despite
02:11:19 their current name but
02:11:21 like I told you they were Brigham Young
02:11:23 something before that the church suited
02:11:26 them
02:11:27 um which I find it interesting the
02:11:29 church didn’t zoom over Joseph Smith
02:11:33 um
02:11:34 so yeah because they couldn’t
02:11:38 because there’s a Smith the Smith family
02:11:40 has their own church
02:11:42 well yeah but that’s right now it goes
02:11:45 by the name of Community of Christ
02:11:48 um right but it’s still
02:11:58 in my opinion does not represent Joseph
02:12:01 Smith’s Junior’s Church though I mean it
02:12:03 was better than none of them do but at
02:12:06 the same time the church has no rights
02:12:08 to the name of Joseph Smith
02:12:10 they really don’t that’s why that’s
02:12:13 actually the real reason why we don’t
02:12:15 why in the LDS church we don’t have
02:12:18 we don’t have access to the uh if you’re
02:12:22 just going with the if you’re just going
02:12:25 with what we normally get as scriptures
02:12:27 we don’t the the LDS church does not
02:12:31 actually have copyright access to the
02:12:34 entirety of the Joseph Smith
02:12:38 and copyright only lasts for so long
02:12:42 yeah
02:12:45 um but as Monica said in the chat they
02:12:48 can’t own Joseph’s name and they can’t
02:12:51 on Joseph’s name because there’s too
02:12:52 many churches that split off of that
02:12:53 church well not only that button is the
02:12:56 founder of this church
02:12:59 so they have to own Brigham Young
02:13:01 right they can’t own Joseph well yeah I
02:13:05 mean Brigham Young is their foundation
02:13:07 so yeah but anyways maybe we should go
02:13:13 back to second fight too yeah yeah so
02:13:16 but yeah that that’s just click on the
02:13:19 chat on that yeah that’s that’s probably
02:13:21 a good thing but I I I think that um
02:13:27 a lot of stuff with church history has
02:13:29 really muddied up and the most important
02:13:31 thing is that we get back to the law
02:13:35 yeah right
02:13:37 um in fact
02:13:38 I mean I I grew up being told
02:13:40 interpreters right and then during my
02:13:43 waking up
02:13:44 period is when they started pushing the
02:13:47 peepstone
02:13:49 um a big stone and a hat yep uh and you
02:13:53 know I’ll be honest I actually kind of
02:13:55 did believe that initially
02:13:58 but when I actually started to
02:13:59 understand the law more that’s when I’m
02:14:02 like no way that’s not what happened is
02:14:05 because of the law
02:14:07 yeah yeah but we would not have had
02:14:10 Joseph Smith translated his scriptures
02:14:14 in a way that contradicts the law which
02:14:17 The Book of Mormon title page States is
02:14:20 to bring us back to that
02:14:24 that’s just not happening
02:14:27 you don’t bring someone to the law by
02:14:29 breaking it
02:14:30 true right
02:14:33 so pick up in the top of verse 5. well
02:14:37 yeah we’ve we got through verse five but
02:14:42 um let’s get back to the loss and let’s
02:14:44 get back to the law so we might as well
02:14:46 start in verse five
02:14:48 matter instructed sufficiently that they
02:14:50 know good from Evil law is given unto
02:14:52 men and by the law no flesh is Justified
02:14:55 for by the law our men are cut off
02:14:59 it’s the law that defines sin therefore
02:15:01 it’s by sin that men are cut off right
02:15:04 right extension in extension by the law
02:15:07 but yeah
02:15:15 Cuts us off yeah yeah by the temporal
02:15:19 law they were cut off and also by the
02:15:21 spiritual law they perish from that
02:15:23 which is good and become miserable
02:15:24 forever
02:15:26 but also tithe verse 5 and that idea of
02:15:29 the temporal law to DNC 84. but the
02:15:33 temporal there is no law that is
02:15:36 temporal only no I get that but the
02:15:40 temporal aspect of the law of Moses
02:15:44 uh yeah yeah yeah by the temporal law I
02:15:48 guess the law of Moses could be
02:15:49 considered well no that’s carnal that’s
02:15:51 all that is that’s carnal not temporal
02:15:54 we’ve gone over that before yeah and the
02:15:58 carnal law is the law of Moses which is
02:16:00 the day of the performances and
02:16:01 ordinances but yeah lots of blood
02:16:03 everywhere and also by the spiritual law
02:16:06 they perish from that which is good and
02:16:08 become miserable forever
02:16:10 all right wherefore pet Redemption
02:16:13 wickedness is never happiness like in
02:16:15 Helaman
02:16:17 was happiness
02:16:19 wherefore Redemption cometh in and
02:16:22 through the holy Messiah for he is full
02:16:24 of grace and truth
02:16:27 behold he offered himself
02:16:29 it’s Redemption
02:16:32 is tied with the grace right yes yes
02:16:36 behold he offered himself a sacrifice
02:16:39 for sin to answer the ends of the law
02:16:42 unto all those who have a broken heart
02:16:44 in the contrite spirit broken heart is
02:16:46 the obedient part I harp on this
02:16:49 continuously
02:16:51 because when you’re talking about the
02:16:53 broken heart it’s much in the same way
02:16:55 that a horse is broken
02:16:58 a broken horse you can ride it you can
02:17:01 take it you can cause to take you
02:17:03 anywhere you need to go
02:17:07 it doesn’t try to throw it it doesn’t
02:17:10 try to throw its writer
02:17:13 doesn’t fight
02:17:18 yeah I I think that’s
02:17:20 beautiful because
02:17:25 yep the range on the horse and the rains
02:17:29 are what guides us just like the law is
02:17:31 supposed to guide us right and here is
02:17:33 the kicker at the end of the verse which
02:17:35 have a broken heart and a contrite
02:17:37 spirit the contrite spirit is the one
02:17:39 that acknowledges our need for Grace yes
02:17:42 oh
02:17:43 and none else and onto none else can the
02:17:47 ends of the law be answered so we have
02:17:48 to be we have to obey and we have to
02:17:51 acknowledge our need for Grace
02:17:54 so ends of the law especially when it
02:17:57 gets tied to unto would which have a
02:18:00 broken heart and contrite spirit and
02:18:02 none else can the ends of the law be
02:18:04 answered the ends of the law is the
02:18:06 purpose
02:18:07 as in who we’re supposed to become yep
02:18:12 that’s the ends that’s the purpose an
02:18:15 end does mean purpose and we can look it
02:18:17 up in the dictionary if you want but
02:18:20 the purpose of the law is to become
02:18:24 is to help us to become like the law
02:18:27 Giver
02:18:28 like Yeshua
02:18:30 and that was only possible because
02:18:34 he gave his life yeah so that way
02:18:39 it’s satisfied the demands of Justice
02:18:43 yeah but only
02:18:45 for those
02:18:48 right who submit
02:18:51 to his authority the Broken Heart
02:18:54 the broken heart once again that with
02:18:58 the horse that cannot be broken there’s
02:19:00 no use for it except the horse it cannot
02:19:03 be broken there’s no use for it except
02:19:05 to shoot it
02:19:06 yeah okay uh hold on looks like Monica’s
02:19:12 and she’s getting her charger
02:19:15 um well maybe we just pause for a little
02:19:17 bit yeah
02:19:20 um but yeah but that’s
02:19:22 [Music]
02:19:23 he goes that whole thing that whole
02:19:26 thing of breaking horses
02:19:28 our Broken Heart
02:19:31 it’s so complete with
02:19:35 and so completely Paints the picture
02:19:38 of what
02:19:45 um
02:19:46 of how the law of how God works with us
02:19:50 yeah
02:19:52 um and and you know I like how it goes
02:19:55 along with the bridal your passions
02:19:57 because Bridal has to do with the the
02:20:01 strings that guide the horse yep it just
02:20:05 goes right along with that
02:20:07 yeah
02:20:09 so I mean that’s tizitz in the Book of
02:20:12 Mormon
02:20:14 in fact
02:20:16 um uh this is that’s that that’s that
02:20:19 sound in Hebrew that you really have a
02:20:21 hard time pronouncing yeah but
02:20:26 um back onto the concept the not the the
02:20:29 pronunciation yeah
02:20:39 I know I forgot I was gonna say
02:20:42 ah
02:20:43 sorry oh no um the imagery it has to do
02:20:47 with that in Torah actually has to do
02:20:51 with desire which goes along with
02:20:53 Passions
02:21:00 and we can move on now because Monica is
02:21:04 back okay all right we waited for you
02:21:06 Monica all right so I shall pick up your
02:21:10 saved
02:21:12 uh well did we read seven oh no yes yes
02:21:16 okay let me uh
02:21:18 since we don’t know if we read seven
02:21:20 I’ll read it again
02:21:22 behold he offereth himself a sacrifice
02:21:25 for sin to answer the ends of the law
02:21:28 and to all those who have a broken heart
02:21:29 and a contrite spirit now that none else
02:21:32 can the ends of the law be answered
02:21:34 so this goes to Alma he offered himself
02:21:38 a sacrifice percent that goes to Alma
02:21:41 34. it also goes to it also answers the
02:21:46 question of Daniel chapter nine yeah it
02:21:48 does and the salvation of the daily
02:21:51 soccer team and many others
02:21:54 um second Nephi 25 35
02:21:58 Messiah 2-5
02:22:01 uh
02:22:04 uh forced me by one anyways I don’t have
02:22:06 them all memorized but there’s quite a
02:22:07 few but the thing the reason I bring up
02:22:10 uh Alma 34 is because it just kind of
02:22:13 lays it out that yeah he is the
02:22:16 sacrifice to save this from the sin not
02:22:20 not the sacrifice of thousand beasts
02:22:24 which
02:22:25 that’s where
02:22:27 to me includes the
02:22:31 weekly and monthly ones because the
02:22:35 daily one is the land
02:22:38 the Beast
02:22:41 is the bowl I think
02:22:44 and the foul is is
02:22:48 I’m going off of a vague memory but the
02:22:51 foul is the Sabbath one
02:22:54 yeah well and also in the event that
02:22:58 there was not a land to be had sometimes
02:23:00 Birds reviews as
02:23:04 an acceptable substitute uh not for the
02:23:07 Levites for the people
02:23:08 for the people for the poor people
02:23:11 yeah yeah because they weren’t able to
02:23:14 go buy it but
02:23:16 um
02:23:16 I mean in addition with the poor people
02:23:18 you could go join another family all
02:23:21 right anyways right
02:23:23 um so Levites needed to land
02:23:26 yeah Levites yeah yeah
02:23:29 um and it was the Levi’s that did the
02:23:31 law of Moses the days yeah sacrifices
02:23:35 um that’s why part of the Levites
02:23:37 were sheep herders
02:23:39 is to fulfill that requirement those
02:23:42 Shepherds
02:23:43 that saw Jesus Christ on the night of
02:23:48 the sub I’m just sure
02:23:51 that saw the angel in Yeshua hamasiach
02:23:53 on the day on the night of his birth
02:23:56 more of the Levites
02:24:01 they were levitical shepherds oh yeah
02:24:03 yeah because they went and Tom were born
02:24:06 um yes those were Levites
02:24:08 they were the ones tending the Lambs for
02:24:12 that
02:24:14 um but yeah I agree
02:24:16 so that’s a real and that’s a really
02:24:18 interesting piece of symbolism right
02:24:19 there
02:24:21 yeah the Shepherds I mean who
02:24:26 the angels are supposed to go to the to
02:24:28 the diligent in mind Moroni seven and
02:24:32 it’s the Shepherds who were I don’t know
02:24:35 I I’m I’m gonna assume that these
02:24:38 Shepherds were diligent
02:24:40 since the angel came to them
02:24:43 um but then they lift their flocks in
02:24:45 the field and went to a no just kidding
02:24:47 I’m kidding
02:24:48 well what’s more important those flocks
02:24:51 of lambs or the real lamb
02:24:54 it’s a joke I I know he’s being a joke
02:24:57 but that was a bad joke it wasn’t bad
02:25:02 um
02:25:02 repent repent he repaint you oh no more
02:25:07 despite what some people think
02:25:11 done
02:25:13 Lambs are born all year long because
02:25:17 that’s people will use that to say he
02:25:20 was born in April but he was born during
02:25:22 the first day of Tabernacles yes Book of
02:25:25 Mormon and New Testament bring out
02:25:28 um
02:25:29 [Music]
02:25:31 tabernacled Among Us yeah the facts of
02:25:35 the matter are at the time that Jesus
02:25:37 was at the time that Jesus was born the
02:25:40 Roman Empire was actually being very
02:25:45 um
02:25:47 no they were actually being very uh
02:25:52 compared to what they would be later
02:25:53 they were actually being very
02:25:56 egalitarian to the Jews and so when they
02:25:59 declared his purpose when they declared
02:26:02 a census they I’m talking about the Jews
02:26:06 might not have seen it that way
02:26:09 the Jews the Jews had lots of problems
02:26:16 because the Romans got more strict with
02:26:19 them when they rebelled more right yeah
02:26:24 um it’s but so this brings up an
02:26:27 interesting thing right with
02:26:30 well I mean there’s actually a point
02:26:32 that I was trying to get sorry go finish
02:26:34 your point
02:26:36 um
02:26:37 so when they declare when Caesar
02:26:39 Augustus declared a
02:26:42 declared a tax or a uh a census to be
02:26:48 around the festival when everybody’s
02:26:51 traveling
02:26:52 somewhere anyway
02:26:55 yeah they were doing it when they were
02:26:57 doing it anyway
02:27:01 the Feast of Tabernacles you’re supposed
02:27:04 to travel to
02:27:07 yeah you’re supposed to go travel back
02:27:11 um so they’re right back to your family
02:27:13 yeah
02:27:15 um it was it’s one of the you know the
02:27:17 the three times for The Traveling feasts
02:27:20 um yeah so so this is why you know that
02:27:24 it’s at the Feast of Tabernacles is
02:27:26 because of the one of the things one of
02:27:29 the re one of the reasons Point could be
02:27:31 applied to
02:27:32 um Passover and unleavened bread though
02:27:34 which yeah that’s true
02:27:37 um or Pentecost but I mean no one I
02:27:39 don’t think anybody but Passover but but
02:27:42 Passover and unleavened bread but John
02:27:45 John the Baptist was born a Passover
02:27:48 I agree with you the reason we know that
02:27:51 he was born at Passover was because of
02:27:54 some of the things that Mary said in
02:27:56 relation to win shoes
02:27:59 uh you know it’s and and there’s and
02:28:03 also in relation the relationship of the
02:28:06 time between John the Baptist birth and
02:28:08 Jesus Christ
02:28:10 exactly and and I I mean better
02:28:12 translations of Matthew actually bring
02:28:15 isn’t Matthew I’m pretty sure it’s Matty
02:28:17 Betty Tabernacle from the Tabernacle
02:28:19 goes along with Taverna right but anyway
02:28:23 right so so the point is interesting
02:28:26 along with that point
02:28:29 when the temple is dedicated during
02:28:31 Hanukkah is when the light
02:28:34 our spirit goes into the temple our
02:28:39 physical body
02:28:40 yeah
02:28:42 um so there’s a there’s a lot of
02:28:43 connections to that but yeah anyways but
02:28:47 yeah so the the the so that’s one of the
02:28:51 reasons why you can know that it was
02:28:53 around it was around the traveling
02:28:56 there’s around a traveling holiday and
02:28:58 because John the Baptist was born six
02:29:00 months prior to Jesus Christ it has to
02:29:03 be one of the later traveling holidays
02:29:06 well and also another one that I find
02:29:11 uh insightful on this
02:29:14 um
02:29:15 there’s a star at his birth
02:29:18 when are we commanded to do something
02:29:20 where we would actually see that star
02:29:23 Tabernacles Tabernacles because you were
02:29:26 not supposed to have a full roof you
02:29:29 didn’t have holes in your roof oh that
02:29:31 that would be terrible if it were to
02:29:33 rain right well yeah but anyways
02:29:37 laughs
02:29:41 Yeah but I
02:29:44 you were supposed to leave holes in your
02:29:46 room for Tabernacles yeah so you could
02:29:49 my personal opinion so you could see the
02:29:52 star
02:29:56 um but anyways no but yeah that’s yeah
02:29:59 that’s that’s
02:30:01 uh but that’s it to none else can the
02:30:04 ends of can the ends of the law be
02:30:06 answered but those with broken heart and
02:30:07 the contrite spirit those who will obey
02:30:10 those will keep his Commandments i i in
02:30:13 today’s vernacular I think a better
02:30:15 translation is purpose
02:30:18 yeah to answer this is the law is
02:30:21 to go be with Yeshua and it’s only
02:30:23 possible
02:30:25 it’s only possible for those with a
02:30:27 broken or obedient heart
02:30:30 and because of his Redemption a contrite
02:30:32 and a contrite a repentant Spirit
02:30:35 returning Spirit yeah because none else
02:30:38 well the ends purpose of the law be
02:30:41 answered to be like him yeah
02:30:46 because Justice
02:30:49 uh demands punishment
02:30:52 but so the so the absolute actual so the
02:30:56 absolute actual definition that’s that’s
02:30:59 been revealed to me through my study of
02:31:01 the word of the broken heart and
02:31:02 contrite spirit is that which returns to
02:31:05 the law the contrite spirit contract
02:31:07 repentant heart or a contract with pet
02:31:11 and spirit a broken heart the obedient
02:31:13 heart turns to the law and keeps it
02:31:17 um
02:31:19 yeah
02:31:22 I agree with you
02:31:24 um and I I’ve come across how broken
02:31:26 heart and contract Spirit are Hebrew
02:31:28 idioms for repentant
02:31:30 yeah
02:31:32 um which goes right along with what
02:31:34 you’re saying and where does the Lord or
02:31:38 the spirit write
02:31:40 the law
02:31:43 well your heart is hard you will not
02:31:46 receive the law
02:31:55 tablets of their heart but if the heart
02:31:58 is hardened the fleshy tablets will be
02:32:00 protected and you will not be able the
02:32:03 spirit will not be able to write the law
02:32:06 on your heart if it is too hard nothing
02:32:09 yeah you can’t chip it in there
02:32:14 so yeah so I have a question sure
02:32:18 might be a little a little bit beyond
02:32:20 what we’re talking about here but um
02:32:24 there’s a verse in the Doctrine and
02:32:26 Covenants about how
02:32:29 the
02:32:32 um
02:32:33 the punishment is
02:32:35 endless because that’s his name and it’s
02:32:38 not actually forever uh yes
02:32:41 uh yeah that’s not what I’m saying
02:32:42 Doctrine and Covenants section 19 I
02:32:45 believe
02:32:47 I’m just typing in English
02:32:53 oh
02:32:55 foreign
02:32:59 here it is verse starting in verse go
02:33:02 back up a little bit make sure that I
02:33:05 want to make sure that it’s not starting
02:33:06 before verse 7. uh let’s see well endos
02:33:10 is first mentioned in verse four
02:33:12 okay barely every man must repent or
02:33:15 suffer for I God am endless
02:33:19 wherefore I revoke not the Commandments
02:33:21 which I shall pass but woes shall go
02:33:23 forth weeping wailing and gnashing of
02:33:25 teeth yay to those who are found on my
02:33:27 left hand
02:33:28 nevertheless it is not written that
02:33:31 there should be that there shall be no
02:33:33 end to this torment but it was written
02:33:35 one thing because there’s the left and
02:33:37 the right hand
02:33:39 um and now part of this is just
02:33:41 contrasting each other but the polar
02:33:44 configuration the Crescent went
02:33:46 counterclockwise those on the right were
02:33:49 lifted those on the left were crushed
02:33:55 okay nevertheless it is not written that
02:33:58 there shall be no end to this torment
02:34:00 but it is written endless torment again
02:34:03 it is written Eternal damnation
02:34:05 wherefore it is more expressed than
02:34:08 other scriptures that it might work upon
02:34:10 the hearts of the children of men
02:34:11 altogether for my name’s Glory wherefore
02:34:14 I will explain unto you this mystery for
02:34:17 it is made unto you that you know even
02:34:18 as mine Apostles I speak unto you that
02:34:21 are chosen in this thing even as one
02:34:23 that you may enter into my rest
02:34:26 okay so this is the knowledge that’s
02:34:28 necessary to enter into the rest of the
02:34:30 Lord
02:34:33 for Behold The Mystery of godliness how
02:34:35 great is it from world I am endless and
02:34:39 the punishment which is given by my hand
02:34:41 is endless punishment for Endless is my
02:34:43 name wherefore Eternal punishment is
02:34:45 God’s punishment endless punishment is
02:34:48 God’s punishment
02:34:49 wherefore I command you to repent and
02:34:52 keep the Commandments which you have
02:34:53 received by the hand of my servant
02:34:54 Joseph Smith Jr in my name and is by my
02:34:57 Almighty power that you have received
02:35:00 okay
02:35:01 so what this is saying I I don’t see the
02:35:05 statement that Monica is saying though
02:35:06 so I don’t know well but this is but
02:35:08 this this is what she I think this is
02:35:10 what you were alluding to isn’t it
02:35:12 Monica
02:35:13 yeah I mean I don’t know if there’s more
02:35:15 somewhere else or not but no this is a
02:35:17 common one I try to talk to people about
02:35:20 you know some of these things and they
02:35:22 often bring these verses up so I wanted
02:35:24 to understand I don’t quite see the
02:35:27 verse
02:35:28 76 DNC 76 is the verse that you might be
02:35:33 talking about verse real quick
02:35:36 verse 44.
02:35:38 76
02:35:40 44.
02:35:42 yes
02:35:45 well I mean it kind of loosely goes over
02:35:49 wherefore he saves all except them
02:35:52 they shall go into Everlasting
02:35:55 punishment which is endless punishment
02:35:58 which is eternal punishment
02:36:01 that’s just another way saying the same
02:36:03 thing right which is also going back
02:36:05 which goes back to those verses in
02:36:07 chapter 19. yes but because that’s what
02:36:11 the that’s what the myth that’s where
02:36:12 the mystery is explained right I wasn’t
02:36:15 I was just merely stating this is the
02:36:17 verse that she was talking about
02:36:20 originally and it does I don’t know
02:36:23 because I I I’ve come across what I
02:36:27 think she’s getting at as where they’re
02:36:29 saying that it although it says endless
02:36:31 it’s not endless and I just I know I’ve
02:36:34 come across people saying it but I just
02:36:37 I don’t see it in the scriptures because
02:36:39 Alma 42 says it’s
02:36:42 Eternal as the soul and the soul is
02:36:44 eternal I mean we can go look at that
02:36:46 after this but let’s uh Moses one we can
02:36:49 also look at Moses one sure but let’s
02:36:52 finish this wherefore except all right
02:36:53 which is endless punishment which is
02:36:55 eternal punishment
02:36:58 um to reign with the devil and his
02:36:59 angels this makes me wonder if there’s a
02:37:02 catechism there but anyways and the
02:37:04 deadline is Angel’s in eternity where
02:37:06 their
02:37:08 worm diet well that would almost go with
02:37:11 like wormwood like bitter right yep
02:37:14 which is not and the fire is not
02:37:17 quenched which is their torment yeah I I
02:37:20 I’m not seeing how they’re trying to it
02:37:23 says and then in verse 45 and the end
02:37:25 thereof neither the place thereof nor
02:37:27 their torment no man knows
02:37:29 so
02:37:31 that leaves a caveat which that that
02:37:34 leaves the caveat which says that it
02:37:36 might not be endless because it says
02:37:37 that there isn’t end thereof
02:37:39 but we don’t know where
02:37:42 yeah that’s not how I would read that
02:37:45 you’re right you’re right but I’m just
02:37:48 saying that that’s a caveat that they
02:37:49 can look at and say aha
02:37:54 yeah but
02:37:55 yeah so it’s it’s Doctrine and Covenants
02:37:58 19 verse six yeah
02:38:01 that’s what I thought that’s what I
02:38:04 thought
02:38:05 it was not written that there shall be
02:38:08 no end to this torment
02:38:10 yep
02:38:12 but it is written offline it’s it’s this
02:38:16 isn’t invisible I mean not yeah this is
02:38:20 a double value
02:38:22 so it is
02:38:27 there isn’t an end
02:38:30 is what it’s saying but it is written
02:38:31 endless torment so
02:38:34 maybe they’re not getting their double
02:38:36 negative
02:38:37 logic in there
02:38:40 Matt should we talk about logic games
02:38:44 but this is a double negative yeah
02:38:48 exactly as a double negative so maybe
02:38:51 they’re reading the double negative
02:38:52 wrong but hold on a second nevertheless
02:38:57 it is not written well if you were to
02:38:59 think about nevertheless is that are we
02:39:01 going to consider that a negative
02:39:03 because then that’s true are you saying
02:39:05 that’s a triple negative yeah
02:39:11 this is a really confusing versus
02:39:13 scripture we’re gonna nonetheless is
02:39:15 connecting to the stuff that was up
02:39:17 before okay all right right is it the
02:39:20 gnashing of teeth blah blah blah okay so
02:39:22 that’s not really a negative but anyways
02:39:23 it is not written so it’s not written
02:39:27 that there shall be no end to this
02:39:29 torment of the gnashing of teeth there
02:39:32 is no end ending of gnashing of teeth is
02:39:35 what this is saying yeah but it is
02:39:38 written endless torments yes it is not
02:39:42 written that there shall be no end so
02:39:44 this is where they’re getting it they’re
02:39:46 not getting they’re not reading their
02:39:47 double negative properly so but doesn’t
02:39:50 it say if you took out both of the
02:39:52 negatives right it would say it is
02:39:54 written that there shall be an end to
02:39:57 this torment
02:39:59 but that’s that’s if you take out the
02:40:01 double negatives yeah but you can’t just
02:40:03 take out the double negatives and then
02:40:05 have it say the correct thing is saying
02:40:07 it is not written
02:40:09 that there is no end to this torment
02:40:11 because there is no end to the torment
02:40:16 but it says it’s not written that
02:40:18 there’s no end
02:40:20 because there is no end meaning it’s
02:40:22 endless
02:40:24 I see is she’s saying
02:40:28 it’s not written doesn’t mean that it
02:40:31 hasn’t been said it’s just not written
02:40:34 that there is no
02:40:38 oh
02:40:41 once again then next verse supports it
02:40:45 it says it is written
02:40:48 Eternal damnation wherefore it’s more
02:40:49 expressed than other scriptures that it
02:40:51 might work upon the hearts of the
02:40:53 children of men so basically what it
02:40:55 sounds like it’s saying is
02:40:58 that it’s written that way to get people
02:41:00 to repent yes
02:41:05 amen amen to it
02:41:09 um that’s where what it seems like in
02:41:11 all the other scriptures I’ve read but
02:41:13 this one seems to be out of context
02:41:16 Well yeah if if you if you hit verse
02:41:19 seven verse seven explains the whole
02:41:21 process
02:41:22 of verse six
02:41:24 the reason why he hasn’t written that
02:41:27 way is so that it Pricks the hearts of
02:41:31 men to repent
02:41:33 to come back to the law the point of the
02:41:37 and and so the rest of this Exposition
02:41:41 here
02:41:42 is simply stating
02:41:45 by what Authority the punishment is
02:41:47 together
02:41:48 mm-hmm
02:41:49 yes so the rest
02:41:52 so the it’s God’s punishment
02:41:56 and therefore and therefore it is
02:41:59 endless and and therefore by virtue of
02:42:02 the fact that God is giving the
02:42:03 punishment it does Endless internal and
02:42:06 with the men if you hold on to the
02:42:08 mentality of oh it’ll end eventually
02:42:11 well then you know then yeah if you keep
02:42:13 if you keep holding on to the mentality
02:42:16 that uh then you will find yourself in
02:42:19 Eternal punishment and endless and
02:42:21 endless torment yes if you hold on to
02:42:24 the idea that it will end at some point
02:42:26 you’ll end up you’ll find yourself an
02:42:28 endless torment and eternal damnation
02:42:30 yes
02:42:38 so it is not written that there shall be
02:42:40 no end to this torment but it is written
02:42:43 endless time torment so it’s saying it
02:42:45 didn’t say there shall be no end
02:42:48 but it is written that it’s endless
02:42:51 right but read verse seven verse 7 is
02:42:55 the key
02:42:56 and again it is written Eternal
02:42:58 damnation
02:43:00 which is endless right it’s the same
02:43:03 endless
02:43:07 than other scriptures that it might work
02:43:10 upon the hearts of the children all are
02:43:13 for my name’s Glory I
02:43:18 isn’t eternal
02:43:20 but I agree with you it’s to prick them
02:43:22 in the hearts and Alma 42 teaches that
02:43:25 yeah
02:43:27 um
02:43:36 I just
02:43:41 okay so first of all
02:43:44 the soul the spirit can never die right
02:43:47 right
02:43:48 okay so I noticed this one too when I
02:43:51 was reading through there
02:43:55 yeah
02:43:58 so okay where were we again oh okay
02:44:01 we’re jumping up and down specific
02:44:03 things in here but so the soul can never
02:44:07 die okay okay it’s Eternal right
02:44:12 uh you’re 41 or 42. 42 42. I’m a 40. I
02:44:18 mean this is first taught in second
02:44:20 Nephi two which we’ll never get to it if
02:44:24 we keep going at this the rate that we
02:44:25 have which is fine but anyways this is
02:44:28 where I first saw it and then I later
02:44:31 saw it and
02:44:34 um 16.
02:44:37 um
02:44:41 verse 16 is where he approaches this
02:44:44 idea
02:44:48 starts off with now repentance
02:44:58 am I forgetting the words used
02:45:04 now repentance could not come unto it
02:45:06 men except they were
02:45:08 I know what happened I I clicked on the
02:45:11 I got off the chapter somehow that’s
02:45:13 what happened yeah
02:45:16 okay
02:45:21 yeah well it’s verse 16.
02:45:25 and now repentance could not come unto
02:45:28 men except there were a punishment which
02:45:30 was
02:45:32 which also was
02:45:34 eternal
02:45:36 as the life of life
02:45:40 it’s endless that’s right Eternal
02:45:44 endless
02:45:45 yeah a fixed opposite to the plan of
02:45:48 happiness
02:45:50 which was as Eternal also as the life of
02:45:54 the Soul
02:45:56 amen
02:45:59 How could a man repent except there
02:46:01 should be sin right
02:46:04 which goes to the doctrine of Christ how
02:46:06 do you repent if there’s no sin yeah
02:46:08 right okay oh oh wait wait so if the if
02:46:12 the laws if the law is only a
02:46:13 distraction there is no need for the
02:46:15 doctrine of Christ because you can’t sin
02:46:17 how could he sins
02:46:20 how could there be a laws if there was a
02:46:23 punishment uh well
02:46:25 but that could be sufficient I can go to
02:46:28 my little cries and she’ll sell every
02:46:30 point of the doctrine of Christ points
02:46:32 to the law yeah we’ll stay here how
02:46:36 could he sin if there is no law
02:46:38 oh wait a minute how could there be a
02:46:41 law say there be a punishment
02:46:44 now there was a punishment affixed and a
02:46:47 just thought given which brought remorse
02:46:50 oh that pricking that Matt talked about
02:46:53 of conscious unto men
02:46:57 so
02:47:00 Alma 32 talks about
02:47:03 you know
02:47:05 uh let’s just go there real quick
02:47:11 [Music]
02:47:13 all right somewhere in the middle
02:47:16 [Music]
02:47:19 there’s a great discourse on face
02:47:25 it’s at the beginning when he starts
02:47:27 talking to people right oh here we go
02:47:30 and now because you’re compelled to be
02:47:32 humbled blessed are you
02:47:35 okay
02:47:37 son
02:47:39 for a man sometimes if he is compelled
02:47:41 to be humble seeketh repentance and now
02:47:44 surely who’s a repentant whosoever
02:47:49 repentance
02:47:51 whether it was because of
02:47:54 being pricked because of the punishment
02:47:57 or because you now just realized it was
02:48:00 wrong yes
02:48:02 whosoever repented shall find Mercy it
02:48:06 doesn’t matter why but if it’s a true
02:48:09 repentance after you’ve found Mercy then
02:48:12 you must endure to the end to be saved
02:48:15 the enduring is keeping the law
02:48:17 yep to the end so you see you don’t just
02:48:21 keep the law in order to receive
02:48:25 the baptism in order to be born again
02:48:27 you’re born again and then you have to
02:48:30 endure and at that point you’re no
02:48:32 longer underneath the law now the law
02:48:35 brings you to Christ correct
02:48:39 um so here’s the other other category
02:48:42 here and now I said unto you because you
02:48:44 were compelled so some of them
02:48:46 were compelled probably the majority of
02:48:48 it right here that came were compelled
02:48:50 to be humble you are blessed meaning
02:48:52 they were pricked they don’t want to
02:48:57 spill the consequences of the law I
02:48:59 think partly here is because they were
02:49:01 being kept out of their synagogues right
02:49:04 so the same synagogues that they labored
02:49:07 with their hands to build they were
02:49:09 thrown which they were thrown out which
02:49:10 goes along although you paid your
02:49:13 tithing one time to build this Temple
02:49:15 you’re not paying it now so you’re not
02:49:16 allowed in
02:49:17 right
02:49:19 do you not suppose that there are more
02:49:23 blessed who truly humbled themselves
02:49:25 because of the word because you not
02:49:28 because you now you’re being punished
02:49:30 but because now it’s
02:49:32 you actually really do believe it
02:49:35 yeah
02:49:37 and so now I’m going to go back to Alma
02:49:39 42. just I’m just trying to show that
02:49:42 not everybody needs that to be compelled
02:49:46 right
02:49:47 um
02:49:48 but it does help some
02:49:51 okay
02:49:52 well you know we all we all have the
02:49:56 opportunity to choose when to arise and
02:49:58 under what circumstances
02:50:01 correct
02:50:03 um some are compelled and some are not
02:50:06 um but anyways
02:50:09 how could there be a loss if there be
02:50:11 punishment so part of a law is a
02:50:14 punishment
02:50:16 because without that it’s just a nice
02:50:20 rule of thumb it really doesn’t matter
02:50:21 you can do what you want right right
02:50:24 because and it goes into that verse 19.
02:50:26 yeah and now there was a punishment
02:50:30 affixed and a just law given
02:50:33 just La given which brought remorse of
02:50:38 conscience on demand that pricking that
02:50:40 Matt talked about
02:50:42 now if there was no law given if a man
02:50:45 murdered
02:50:47 he should die that’s the statement of
02:50:49 the law
02:50:50 yeah
02:50:52 would he be afraid if he would die if he
02:50:55 should murder so if there was no
02:50:58 punishment affixed to murdering someone
02:51:00 else
02:51:02 they wouldn’t be afraid to murder
02:51:04 yeah
02:51:08 and also if there was yeah go ahead and
02:51:12 also if there was no law given against
02:51:14 sin man would not be afraid to sin
02:51:17 right
02:51:20 um now if there was no law given if men
02:51:23 sinned what could Justice do now this
02:51:27 start didn’t get into the point it’s the
02:51:29 law that’s doing the punishment
02:51:33 if there was no law given if men sinned
02:51:36 what could Justice do or Mercy either
02:51:40 without the law neither Justice nor
02:51:44 Mercy exist correct
02:51:47 so when we go around there’s no need for
02:51:50 mercy
02:51:52 right
02:51:53 there’s no need for a savior without the
02:51:56 law
02:51:58 Christians hate this but most of them
02:52:01 teach the law as dead
02:52:03 it’s been nailed to the cross and so I
02:52:05 asked them why do you need a savior then
02:52:07 if there is no law which that means that
02:52:10 you cannot sin
02:52:15 and I get that from Alma 42 and second
02:52:18 Nephi 2. yes
02:52:22 there’s no need for a messiah
02:52:26 [Music]
02:52:27 and if there was no law given if men
02:52:30 sinned what could Justice do
02:52:32 or Mercy either for they would have no
02:52:34 claim upon their eyes
02:52:37 but there is a law and a punishment
02:52:40 affixed and repentance granted which
02:52:42 repentance Mercy claimeth oh wait which
02:52:47 repentance Mercy claimeth otherwise
02:52:51 Justice playing with the creature and
02:52:54 executed the punishment of the law
02:52:59 and the law inflicted the punishment but
02:53:03 wait a minute look at that and the law
02:53:06 inflicted the punishment
02:53:09 if not so much
02:53:12 the law inflicted the punishment
02:53:18 Justice the creature
02:53:20 so Justice is what executes the law and
02:53:25 the laws is what punishes yeah there’s
02:53:28 something that’s there’s something in
02:53:30 that and I’ve gotta I’ve got to look at
02:53:32 that okay there’s there’s something
02:53:35 deeper in that
02:53:41 okay yeah you can just go ahead and go
02:53:44 ahead
02:53:45 I’ll I’ll do that on my own time but
02:53:47 there’s something if not so the works of
02:53:49 Justice would be destroyed
02:53:52 and God would cease to be God
02:53:55 right ceases not to be God and mercy
02:53:58 claimeth the pentaton the broken heart
02:54:00 and contouring spirit
02:54:02 because that’s another word for
02:54:04 repentant
02:54:05 there’s a reason why Lehigh talks why
02:54:09 Alma talks about it here and why Lehigh
02:54:12 kind of talks about it in chapter two
02:54:15 the idea of the law of opposition if we
02:54:18 if we don’t have the law of opposition
02:54:20 well both Lehigh and Alma both talk
02:54:23 about without the law
02:54:25 oh yeah and God falls apart yeah
02:54:28 everything falls apart almost getting
02:54:30 this from Lehigh for my stuff yeah
02:54:33 yeah
02:54:34 he’s just he’s teaching it to his son
02:54:37 yeah yeah a mercy cometh because of the
02:54:40 atonement the atonement bringeth to pass
02:54:42 the resurrection of the Dead the
02:54:44 resurrection of the Dead bringeth back
02:54:46 men into the presence of God and thus
02:54:48 they are restored into his presence to
02:54:50 be judged according to their Works
02:54:51 according to the law and justice it’s
02:54:55 interesting he’s teaching it to the son
02:54:58 who has a problem with Sinners being
02:55:01 punished
02:55:03 which is what I see in a lot of groups
02:55:07 today
02:55:09 yeah yes
02:55:12 um in fact if people really thought that
02:55:15 why do we have a law then why not just
02:55:19 put lawlessness abound because right the
02:55:23 great why not why not practice
02:55:25 lawlessness that Grace me about
02:55:28 what does Paul have to say about that
02:55:31 God forbid
02:55:37 if they actually really believe that
02:55:39 they
02:55:42 couldn’t
02:55:44 have a problem with someone came in
02:55:46 their house and just
02:55:48 stole their goods and raped their wife
02:55:50 but I guarantee you they would oh yeah
02:55:53 they would that’s why they locked their
02:55:55 doors
02:55:56 [Music]
02:55:58 and have guns right and
02:56:04 you know our personal property rights
02:56:06 actually comes from
02:56:08 Torah
02:56:10 yep Thou shalt not still that’s property
02:56:15 rights
02:56:16 yeah it’s Torah that gives us property
02:56:19 rights it also speaks so if they
02:56:24 so if that if Torah is no more then they
02:56:27 have no property rights correct
02:56:31 but they won’t claim that
02:56:34 they deny the very things that would
02:56:37 that that give them the rights that they
02:56:40 give them the rights they love
02:56:42 yeah they only want the things they’re
02:56:45 they’re doing the thing
02:56:47 I want this and I want that I don’t want
02:56:50 that
02:56:52 yeah
02:56:53 but the thing is
02:56:56 it’s all based on the same thing and If
02:56:59 you deny part of it you deny it all
02:57:02 right
02:57:04 and I’m going off if you break part of
02:57:06 it you break it all you did not this
02:57:08 isn’t above the law is in the buffet is
02:57:11 not the law is not all you can eat
02:57:13 buffet where you can it’s not it’s the
02:57:14 law is not Golden Corral yeah it’s not
02:57:17 called The Crowd
02:57:20 I have another option sure go ahead
02:57:24 um I was reading something about
02:57:26 this subject I don’t know article they
02:57:29 brought up
02:57:30 they were talking about like whether or
02:57:32 not you need a kosher or whatever what
02:57:35 they were saying in that article that
02:57:37 you didn’t need to because and that if
02:57:40 you were gonna say that you had to keep
02:57:42 all those laws then you would also have
02:57:44 to keep the law of not wearing a garment
02:57:47 with more than one Fabric or something
02:57:48 like that uh
02:57:51 and that’s a specific one and it’s wool
02:57:54 and
02:57:56 I don’t know my mind just went blank
02:58:00 but yeah that one’s a misunderstood one
02:58:04 because if I remember the
02:58:08 the priests clothes are mixed clothes
02:58:11 also so they’re they’re taking some
02:58:14 things out of context and bad
02:58:15 translations
02:58:17 um okay
02:58:18 but it’s wool and linen that’s what it
02:58:21 is it’s one linen yeah
02:58:23 um and if I remember correctly the one
02:58:27 is a weak fabric
02:58:30 and one’s a strong one so when you put
02:58:32 the two together it’s actually weak
02:58:34 um and it’s
02:58:37 um it’s like nuts casting
02:58:41 um different seeds together that look
02:58:42 together it’s
02:58:46 um it’s a problem of deception
02:58:49 yeah
02:58:50 yeah
02:58:52 um
02:58:53 so also part of this could be you can’t
02:58:57 wear the clothes of yahshua and Satan at
02:59:00 the same time also it’s one yeah you
02:59:03 can’t that’s another symbol it’s another
02:59:05 symbol
02:59:06 yeah there’s a there’s a lot of
02:59:09 management it’s the symbol for daughter
02:59:11 name basically make you choice
02:59:14 because when we come under Yeshua
02:59:18 we take upon His Garment
02:59:23 um he is the Lamb right
02:59:26 uh awesome
02:59:28 some people will also try to clean them
02:59:32 huh he must be the wolf yes
02:59:35 [Laughter]
02:59:40 some people claim that
02:59:42 um
02:59:43 we can’t touch the animals or the skin
02:59:46 of den animals
02:59:48 I don’t believe that look at John the
02:59:50 Baptist he wore the
02:59:53 um
02:59:54 camel’s hair and where did that come
02:59:57 from a camel a dead camel and guess what
02:59:59 camels are not kosher
03:00:02 yeah and so a lot of people take a
03:00:05 little bit
03:00:06 and twist it
03:00:08 and those yeah
03:00:11 we’ll fall for it
03:00:14 if you I think it’s in uh Leviticus I
03:00:19 think where it talks about that the
03:00:21 unclean you become unclean you have to
03:00:24 wash you have to stand outside of the
03:00:26 camp and you have to be outside the camp
03:00:29 days
03:00:31 and yeah
03:00:33 um but uncleanliness is not a sin and
03:00:37 that has to do for the Levites and their
03:00:40 um business and not the normal everyday
03:00:44 Believers now John the Baptist was a
03:00:47 levite but he wasn’t
03:00:49 doing it in he wasn’t going in the
03:00:51 temple after you were the camel’s hair
03:00:54 right so I at this point he never went
03:00:57 to this
03:01:04 that because of the you know
03:01:07 um circumcision but other than that I I
03:01:10 don’t know any other points yeah there’s
03:01:12 no other record of him but I’m not I
03:01:15 think
03:01:16 um
03:01:19 but uncleaniness is is not a sin per se
03:01:23 if not for if not for Coach if not for
03:01:26 kosher law then we would then
03:01:28 cannibalism is acceptable yeah it is and
03:01:31 in the Book of Mormon is uh I think it
03:01:36 was for you we went over it it shows the
03:01:38 kosher laws are still the ballot
03:01:41 um
03:01:42 [Music]
03:01:45 it’s symbolic of what what you take in
03:01:49 spiritually affects you spiritually yeah
03:01:53 and that’s what the question technically
03:01:55 what you’re taking physically affects
03:01:57 you spiritually right yeah the
03:02:00 um
03:02:02 so the unculture animals
03:02:06 are more
03:02:08 causes sicknesses in you
03:02:12 animals keep toxins in their flesh
03:02:16 that is
03:02:18 significantly higher rate than kosher
03:02:21 animals
03:02:22 people wonder why they’re getting sick
03:02:24 when they’re eating all these unkosher
03:02:27 flesh I don’t wonder
03:02:30 they’re eating things that cause it
03:02:34 I they’re on my kosher resource page I
03:02:38 have some videos that get into the
03:02:43 um science of this the science behind
03:02:47 kosher law yeah
03:02:49 um and it it actually goes right along
03:02:52 with
03:02:54 what they these scientists have found
03:02:56 actually it goes right in line with what
03:02:59 the laws state and what you can and
03:03:01 cannot eat
03:03:03 and actually what you’ll find is that
03:03:06 the word of wisdom kind of marches and
03:03:08 write and step with kosher law yeah it
03:03:12 does
03:03:13 um so there’s one about pig pigs are the
03:03:16 worst
03:03:17 um yeah oh sure
03:03:19 uh yahweh’s
03:03:23 um garbage disposals
03:03:27 um they eat everything and
03:03:31 crabs and shrimp are the same thing for
03:03:34 the ocean yeah
03:03:36 um they’re eating the garbage
03:03:39 yeah
03:03:40 um but here’s a good video the science
03:03:42 behind clean biblical clean and unclean
03:03:45 Foods
03:03:47 um I think I have another one on here
03:03:49 somewhere
03:03:50 um but there’s at least one
03:03:52 uh I I think I haven’t met one other
03:03:55 than that one so but I’m not seeing it
03:03:58 right now that’s on seeking yahweh.org
03:04:00 yeah yeah resources yeah the kosher the
03:04:04 kosher pitch gotcha got it
03:04:06 I mean this is partly funny and partly
03:04:10 serious this little meme right here
03:04:14 this Doctrine doesn’t sound familiar he
03:04:17 doesn’t care what we eat what’s in our
03:04:19 hearts that matters Eve
03:04:22 referring to the Garden of Eden
03:04:25 and partaking of the forbidden fruit it
03:04:28 was yeah
03:04:30 if what we ate and what we ate didn’t
03:04:33 matter
03:04:35 why would why why would God use the
03:04:40 imagery of eating fruit
03:04:42 yeah and then
03:04:45 leave forbidden Foods as the means by
03:04:49 which we enter into the World As We Know
03:04:52 It
03:04:54 Noah took on a
03:04:57 a husband and wife of unclean animals
03:05:01 and seven husbands and wives of the
03:05:04 clean Outlaws
03:05:07 well because Noah was eating those clean
03:05:10 animals
03:05:12 if he didn’t have seven they would have
03:05:14 disappeared
03:05:15 yes
03:05:17 Noah even shows it
03:05:20 um
03:05:22 there let me just look at some notes
03:05:25 there’s a verse that’s kind of tricky I
03:05:27 think in Genesis it actually shows
03:05:30 kosher laws but it gets twisted
03:05:32 otherwise
03:05:35 uh check my notes
03:05:39 I mean the the main confusion one of the
03:05:42 main confusions that goes on around the
03:05:45 law of Moses is that everyone assumes
03:05:47 that every aspect and portion of it only
03:05:50 started at that time that it was a new
03:05:54 innovation no in number 12 it shows that
03:05:58 Torah was kept by Adam and Eve yeah
03:06:01 everyone assumes that Toro was a lot of
03:06:05 people assumed that Toro was a new
03:06:07 innovation of the time of Moses and just
03:06:12 that’s just not the case
03:06:14 oh here’s a kosher David ate meat and
03:06:18 cheese together and so did Abraham
03:06:21 um
03:06:22 let’s just go against the false
03:06:24 tradition can’t eat meat and cheese
03:06:25 together that’s
03:06:27 the Pharisees rabbinical Orthodox Jews
03:06:31 reading into it it’s actually it states
03:06:35 don’t take a baby from its mother just
03:06:39 like the same role with the the chicks
03:06:41 with the birds
03:06:43 [Music]
03:06:44 it’s the same thing
03:06:46 so
03:06:48 doesn’t it say don’t boil a kid in its
03:06:50 mother’s milk or something like that
03:06:52 uh-huh
03:06:54 don’t take its uh it’s that’s
03:06:57 the translation but it it don’t take
03:07:02 uh a mother away that’s we has not been
03:07:07 weaned from its mother’s milk is a
03:07:09 better way of looking out
03:07:11 okay
03:07:14 um and
03:07:16 let me see
03:07:18 there’s
03:07:24 find a video
03:07:29 this is a good video on on that
03:07:33 um
03:07:34 and it’s not talked about in this video
03:07:37 but there’s a law in in Torah also but
03:07:40 don’t take a bird away or don’t take
03:07:45 the eggs away while the mother is there
03:07:48 or something that if I put the birds
03:07:50 it’s the same thing
03:07:53 don’t take the young away from its
03:07:55 mother
03:07:59 yes that would be important and so is
03:08:01 that an induction against eating eggs
03:08:04 no I’m sorry go ahead Monica
03:08:07 no I was watching uh a thing last night
03:08:10 actually about how
03:08:13 the Socialist Communist movement is all
03:08:16 about taking children away from their
03:08:17 mothers yeah it is
03:08:24 totalitarian government yeah they take
03:08:28 the children away from the parents
03:08:30 because when the children because when
03:08:33 the children are taken away from their
03:08:34 parents and raised by the state and the
03:08:37 state can make them into anything they
03:08:39 want them to take then the focus is on
03:08:41 the state instead of honoring their
03:08:43 father and mother and God
03:08:48 yeah the state becomes the god instead
03:08:51 of Yahweh
03:08:53 um
03:08:54 and
03:08:57 there’s a couple ways to look at the
03:08:59 fifth commandment but it does take that
03:09:03 you’re you know honoring your father and
03:09:04 mother that your days may be long in the
03:09:07 land
03:09:08 when the state becomes
03:09:12 your
03:09:13 your days are not long no because you’re
03:09:18 controlled by someone who really doesn’t
03:09:19 love you
03:09:20 right you know if you give a rip less
03:09:23 well yeah they’ll send you to war and
03:09:25 you’ll die young
03:09:27 [Music]
03:09:29 um among other things but well the thing
03:09:31 is is that in this life we all are
03:09:34 influenced by things and the primary
03:09:38 influence and the primary choice in this
03:09:41 life is to choose who who and what we
03:09:43 allow to influence us
03:09:45 well here I have a couple verses on the
03:09:48 purpose of life that I think of course
03:09:50 it’s all about keeping the Commandments
03:09:52 but uh yeah it is but but the point is
03:09:56 is that
03:10:01 foreign
03:10:02 t
03:10:05 y if we don’t choose the right
03:10:07 influences we’re not going to keep the
03:10:08 Commandments
03:10:12 correct
03:10:14 yeah and
03:10:20 our parents should be should be the best
03:10:22 examples in keeping the law in today’s
03:10:26 world that’s not the case but that’s
03:10:29 just how it should be
03:10:31 um
03:10:32 I took it where it stays but if he
03:10:36 teach your children Young the right ways
03:10:39 they’re they are more likely to stay
03:10:42 that way
03:10:43 um when they are old they will not fall
03:10:46 and they will not strike from them yeah
03:10:48 I I don’t remember exactly how it stated
03:10:52 um
03:10:54 raise your child up in the ways you’re
03:10:56 going when he is old people probably in
03:10:59 Proverbs would be my guess yes it is
03:11:01 proverbs because I can’t remember the
03:11:04 exact chapter in verse yeah Proverbs are
03:11:06 more like rules of thumb right yeah and
03:11:10 you can see with Cain and Abel it’s not
03:11:13 an absolute right right
03:11:16 or with Layman and Lemuel yeah there too
03:11:21 um
03:11:21 it’s it’s more of a rule of thumb than
03:11:24 it is an absolute and which Proverbs has
03:11:28 a lot of those kind of rules of thumbs
03:11:29 right
03:11:30 yeah yeah
03:11:32 if you if you um
03:11:34 do you expect everything in Proverbs to
03:11:37 play out of exactly the way it says you
03:11:39 will be disappointed
03:11:41 uh yeah they’re
03:11:43 they’re words of wisdom
03:11:46 as in
03:11:48 you know you kind of shoot for it’s not
03:11:51 exact or perfect or the law yeah
03:11:55 um yeah like the word of wisdom
03:12:00 well Word of Wisdom funny thing is it
03:12:03 even States right up about
03:12:06 guess what guys this isn’t a commandment
03:12:08 yeah it’s not by commandment or
03:12:12 constraints
03:12:19 hi
03:12:21 I mean the ways people pervert things
03:12:24 it’s just
03:12:27 oh they pervert it because they’re a
03:12:29 Satan but anyways
03:12:34 let’s let’s go look at that dictionary
03:12:39 constraint
03:12:42 Force
03:12:43 any force or power of physical or moral
03:12:46 was compels
03:12:48 to act or forbear action which urges so
03:12:52 strongly to produce its effect upon the
03:12:54 body or mind compulsion
03:12:57 restraint and refinement oh wait
03:13:02 the eldest Church removes
03:13:05 privileges
03:13:07 if you don’t do it oh wait that’s
03:13:10 constraint which DNC 89 says not to do
03:13:13 yep
03:13:17 anyways but they’re doing off the wrong
03:13:20 interpretation
03:13:23 well they’re doing it they’re doing it
03:13:25 out of they’re doing it out of
03:13:27 self-serving necessity yes
03:13:29 yeah because of their
03:13:32 because of their because they have
03:13:33 because it’s Shepherds
03:13:36 push the false Traditions well
03:13:40 it’s really easy to tout your Holiness
03:13:43 if people are visibly living a straight
03:13:49 light
03:13:51 um
03:13:52 yeah but what are wisdom the way they
03:13:55 interpret is not straight but I know
03:13:57 what you’re saying it’s they’re using it
03:13:59 as
03:14:00 the visible sign but you know yeah it’s
03:14:03 a visible sign of what they it’s
03:14:06 actually honestly it’s a visible sign of
03:14:09 what they have cut out
03:14:10 which is actually the righteousness
03:14:13 yeah but
03:14:15 there’s so much in here there’s three
03:14:18 types of alcohols in here
03:14:20 yeah wine for this happen
03:14:23 another strong drink not for the belly
03:14:27 but for the washing of the bodies which
03:14:29 you know what strong dink
03:14:32 is like
03:14:34 um whiskey strong drinks distilled
03:14:38 so so take so apparently taking a good
03:14:41 whiskey bath will be good for it
03:14:42 actually you know they did that in the
03:14:44 school of the prophets
03:14:45 yeah and I’ve done it also too
03:14:49 um but yeah how do you feel
03:14:52 the people alcohol that’s used to clean
03:14:55 the body before
03:14:58 medical stuff a phrase is strong drink
03:15:02 it’s distilled in one form or another to
03:15:04 get the alcohol content above 20 percent
03:15:07 which is not possible naturally it’s
03:15:10 man-made right and I think that’s part
03:15:14 of the thing I I like to bring up the
03:15:17 distilled drinks strong drinks it says
03:15:21 and and then this this one down here hot
03:15:24 drinks are not for the body or belly
03:15:26 that’s really general actually
03:15:28 temperature
03:15:30 yeah that’s in fact
03:15:33 all right
03:15:34 the LDS church used to interpret that to
03:15:37 the point of soups and hot chocolate
03:15:42 I’ll show you a quote
03:15:44 this shows that
03:15:47 yeah I was wondering who started
03:15:49 interpreting it as Coffee and Tea
03:15:53 um
03:15:54 I came that I think that was young
03:15:57 actually but that was later because yeah
03:16:00 I thought it was he where Jake Grant I
03:16:02 thought that was he ridic started doing
03:16:04 that one the coffee and tea
03:16:11 uh with the pioneers
03:16:13 so but later he he was worried about the
03:16:18 money because he didn’t want he wanted
03:16:21 people to be dependent upon him instead
03:16:25 of others and so they weren’t making it
03:16:27 so he didn’t want them to buy it
03:16:29 and I think that’s partly where it came
03:16:31 from right he didn’t want Imports
03:16:35 yeah but anyways
03:16:38 um
03:16:39 so here’s an LDS leader stating hot
03:16:42 chocolate and hot soups because it’s
03:16:44 temperature
03:16:46 it’s not coffee the thing is
03:16:49 during Joseph Smith day it was getting
03:16:52 popularity to drink coffee and tea too
03:16:57 hot
03:16:58 and that was the problem and that burns
03:17:01 the throat and can cause cancer in fact
03:17:03 one day
03:17:05 at McDonald’s someone spilled their
03:17:09 coffee that was too hot and it
03:17:12 caused serious problems so far so much
03:17:15 it went to court
03:17:18 because yes and her life’s been made
03:17:21 miserable ever since yeah because of the
03:17:24 temperature
03:17:26 nothing else it was the temperature
03:17:31 yeah well I mean I’m not even just
03:17:33 talking about the natural result of
03:17:35 pouring
03:17:37 liquid that thought upon yourself I’m
03:17:40 talking about the fact that people have
03:17:42 mocked her Ad nauseam for going to court
03:17:45 over it
03:17:46 uh McDonald’s knew they were doing it
03:17:49 too hot before but they just kept doing
03:17:51 it
03:17:52 um yeah they
03:17:54 anyways but here’s the quote from George
03:17:58 Q Cannon from
03:18:01 1868. we are told very plainly
03:18:05 too also that hot drinks
03:18:09 hot drinks tea coffee hot chocolate
03:18:14 cocoa I don’t know why they separated
03:18:17 those two but maybe you know something
03:18:19 was going on back then that we don’t
03:18:20 know about and all drinks of this kind
03:18:23 are not good for man that’s talking
03:18:25 about temperature
03:18:26 we also told that alcohol now this this
03:18:28 is false tradition drinks are not good
03:18:31 because Word of Wisdom actually says
03:18:32 they are good I can show it to you verse
03:18:35 17 and that tobacco
03:18:38 either smoke or two is evil Word of
03:18:41 Wisdom actually leaves some room for
03:18:43 that we’ll talk about that later but we
03:18:45 are told that swine Splash is not oh
03:18:47 look at that twice flesh is not good so
03:18:50 they used to teach kosher in the
03:18:52 healthiest church I have other quotes on
03:18:54 that too
03:18:55 and that we should dispense of it and we
03:18:58 are told that flesh of any kind is not
03:18:59 suitable to man in this summer and ought
03:19:02 to be eaten only in the winter and
03:19:04 that’s about translation what a wisdom
03:19:06 we can get into
03:19:07 yeah permit to drink liquor yeah or so
03:19:11 here’s the hot soup
03:19:12 look at that hot soups used to be
03:19:14 forbidden because it was about
03:19:16 temperature
03:19:22 or use tobacco or other articles but
03:19:24 anyways
03:19:25 um hot chocolate
03:19:28 and hot soups because it’s about the
03:19:30 temperature
03:19:32 I I don’t think you can claim anything
03:19:34 with hop soups other than temperature
03:19:37 right
03:19:41 so
03:19:43 technically there’s absolutely
03:19:46 and technically there’s a certain
03:19:48 temperature which
03:19:51 serving warm food with after which
03:19:55 there’s absolutely
03:19:57 it’s a no use even for um even for
03:20:01 cutting through
03:20:03 having been called yeah
03:20:06 wait sorry say that one more time
03:20:09 Andy
03:20:11 hey how are you guys oh it’s been a
03:20:15 while
03:20:16 yeah no let me pause apologize it’s been
03:20:19 a bit I forget you guys stay up all
03:20:22 night so
03:20:25 so I figured I’d jump on for a few
03:20:28 minutes for sure a basically basically
03:20:32 what I was saying
03:20:35 when you even
03:20:38 you know when uh
03:20:41 they advise you when you’re treating
03:20:43 somebody with hypothermia to give them a
03:20:45 warm drink not a hot one
03:20:48 uh sure
03:20:50 that’s the point there’s a temperature
03:20:52 pest which even warm drinks they don’t
03:20:56 even help even with hypothermia
03:20:59 uh okay they create a problem
03:21:04 yeah too hot too fast
03:21:08 you probably want to warm them up a bit
03:21:11 first right well they need to be warm
03:21:15 but not hot
03:21:17 yeah if it’s too hot if it’s too hot
03:21:22 when they’re suffering from hypothermia
03:21:23 or going into hypothermic shock
03:21:26 uh what it’ll do is it will then create
03:21:29 shocks within the system to create
03:21:32 systemic shock it creates systemic shots
03:21:35 on top of the shock right yeah
03:21:40 yeah just context-free Andrew we’re
03:21:43 talking about word of wisdom and how LDS
03:21:45 leaders used to teach you weren’t
03:21:47 supposed to have hot chocolate or hot
03:21:49 soups and oh
03:21:51 yeah right here
03:21:53 yeah yeah the word of wisdom the word as
03:21:57 we know the word wisdom is has has been
03:21:59 taught differently throughout the
03:22:01 history of the church yeah of course
03:22:03 yeah
03:22:04 but we all know that Joseph Smith drank
03:22:07 beer back in the day right oh yeah and
03:22:10 smoked cigars
03:22:13 guard
03:22:14 Brigham Young has a lie
03:22:18 stating that Emma tried to murder Joseph
03:22:21 Smith by poisoning his coffee and this
03:22:23 was afterward wisdom was given so
03:22:26 the only way that that quote would have
03:22:29 any validity it doesn’t have any but the
03:22:31 only way it could be accepted is if
03:22:33 Joseph Smith actually drank coffee
03:22:36 yep that’s true
03:22:39 um no it was a law but but remember also
03:22:43 remember also that in in the beginning
03:22:47 of DNC 89 it talks about how it’s not
03:22:49 meant to be given by way of commandment
03:22:53 working right yeah it’s the word of
03:22:57 wisdom it is
03:22:58 but actually we were talking about the
03:23:00 word of wisdom in relation to kosher law
03:23:04 okay that’s fair
03:23:08 yeah it kind of went down some radical
03:23:10 yeah
03:23:13 yeah it fair enough well I came in late
03:23:15 to the park so no that’s felt good
03:23:20 well hey
03:23:22 I think it’s complementary it doesn’t
03:23:25 really talk about kosher that I’m aware
03:23:28 of other than you should eat meat all
03:23:31 the time in fact you know so on this
03:23:35 meat issue okay
03:23:37 so the LDS Church
03:23:40 changed it they added a comma after used
03:23:44 yeah uh yeah but let’s
03:23:47 look at this what a surprise well yeah
03:23:51 it changes the meaning actually
03:23:54 I know
03:23:56 that
03:23:57 that is going in the area
03:24:02 of doctrine of demons of not eating me
03:24:08 known to me that they should not only
03:24:10 and not be used only in time it’s a
03:24:12 winner or a bolder famine and then the
03:24:14 way that it’s changed to and it’s plays
03:24:16 down to me that they should not be used
03:24:19 only in times of winter cold or cold
03:24:21 effect yeah it’s subtle but it’s it’s
03:24:27 actually changing those commas are
03:24:29 that’s punctuation marks are really
03:24:32 important you know yeah I’ve seen some
03:24:35 funny memes on those but it’s pleasing
03:24:38 they should not only be using times of
03:24:42 winter cold or from it so it should be
03:24:44 used all the time
03:24:45 which
03:24:47 um I have a post on that from The Book
03:24:49 of Mormon that they were eating me all
03:24:51 sparingly all the time
03:24:55 yeah I mean in our in our household here
03:24:59 we have we have some meat practically
03:25:02 every day but it’s not the dominant it’s
03:25:06 not like the dominant portion of our
03:25:08 food but we have some every day and
03:25:11 generally and generally speaking it’s
03:25:13 pork right well
03:25:16 one main guy funny guy you know after
03:25:20 I’m I’m gonna I’m gonna reach over the
03:25:22 internet and strangle you yeah you know
03:25:25 here Andrew
03:25:28 yeah you should listen to your wife and
03:25:31 listen to LDS leaders and and here’s one
03:25:34 from Brigham Young if people were
03:25:36 willing to receive the true knowledge
03:25:38 from heaven in regards to their diet
03:25:40 they would cease eating wine splash
03:25:43 let’s see that’s bringing me on
03:25:47 here’s uh George Truesdale eating pork
03:25:50 is the more serious breach of the word
03:25:53 of wisdom than drinking tea or coffee
03:25:56 drink tea coffee’s not but anyways we
03:26:00 went over there oh wait here’s another
03:26:01 one Dirt Cheap Cannon we were told that
03:26:04 swine flesh is not good and we should
03:26:07 dispense with it so you know still
03:26:09 listen to your LDS leaders
03:26:11 don’t eat swine Splash
03:26:14 do that do your kosher law thing
03:26:18 uh-huh do your kosher laughing get that
03:26:22 kosher law on oh yeah so you know it
03:26:25 partly plays the Thou shalt not murder
03:26:27 including yourself slowly from eating
03:26:29 toxic foods
03:26:31 [Music]
03:26:32 Thou shalt not kids
03:26:36 there’s plenty of people who are willing
03:26:38 to do it for you exactly
03:26:42 oh wait someone’s got it
03:26:46 okay take care Monica be good Monica so
03:26:50 thanks
03:26:51 you know I I like eating my processed
03:26:54 vegetables
03:26:57 nothing like plastic
03:27:00 Supply a cow or a lamb or my favorite
03:27:08 Andrew
03:27:11 I eat vegetarians
03:27:14 [Laughter]
03:27:20 okay I’m gonna stop recording now