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Summary:

Talked about the Hebrew Gospels some. The woman caught in adulty was in the Hebrew manuscripts before it was in the Greek manuscripts. Read some of the Sermon on the Mount / Torah from a Hebrew Matthew along with KJV and JST at the same time. Peace makers teach YHWH’s ways so they can get peace from Him. The law / Torah tells us what is right and wrong. Yeshua / Jesus taught the law / Torah. The law is a double edge sword it will condemn you or save you. Mentioned the fraud Nemenhah Records. If you are not keeping the law / Torah the mysteries you are getting are not from YHWH but from Satan. If you want answers to your prayers, have a desire to keep the law, you don’t need to pray for hours. YHWH sets up authority. Gleaning on the sabbath. Law of Moses points to Yeshua’s / Jesus’ great sacrafice. Melchizedek given by YHWH’s voice, Aaronic is given by laying on of hands. Talked about priestcraft. Talked about various not well known portions of tithing. The traveling twelve are to go to non-believers. Symbolism helps us know the truth. Talked about the LuniSolar calendar a little. How to answer a Nazi. Knowing the culture of the scriptures helps you understand it. Translation issues.

Links:

• Hebrew Gospels Website
• Hebrew Gospels YouTube
• Peace Maker
• All Things You Should DO
• Scriptures about the sealed portion in Ether
• Priesthood
• Book of Mormon Verses on Priestcraft
• Tithing
• Gnostic
• LuniSolar Calendar
• Google Android SeekingYHWH LuniSolar Calendar
• Jacob 5
• Except This and Except That

Transcript:

00:00:00 oh I
00:00:02 so I think it’s going to go on the cloud
00:00:05 where I always do it on the computer but
00:00:06 anyways so
00:00:09 um I’m having some power difficulties
00:00:12 just so people who weren’t here or watch
00:00:15 the recordings so that’s why it’s we’re
00:00:17 doing things a little different than we
00:00:19 normally do but anyways Ben was just
00:00:22 talking about how he’s been reading the
00:00:23 Hebrew
00:00:24 Hebrew Matthew
00:00:26 and how it’s been making things a lot
00:00:28 more clear and I was just talking about
00:00:30 how
00:00:32 um
00:00:33 that there’s multiple sources for
00:00:35 multiple of the New Testaments are
00:00:37 starting to come out that they were
00:00:39 originally in Hebrew
00:00:42 um but on this point one thing that I
00:00:45 recall off top of my head
00:00:47 the the story of the adulterous woman or
00:00:52 the I should say history of the
00:00:53 adulterous woman
00:00:55 sometimes they call it the wandering
00:00:59 wandering history
00:01:01 because in the Greek manuscripts it has
00:01:06 changed which of the four gospels it’s
00:01:09 been in
00:01:10 but it’s interesting when you go look at
00:01:13 the Hebrew texts it’s always been there
00:01:16 and so this in some respects is an
00:01:20 example where the the Greeks the
00:01:22 hellenists knew of it
00:01:25 and they copied it from there and then
00:01:28 translated into the Greek to give it out
00:01:30 to the world because I think one thing
00:01:35 that a lot of people forget is Greek was
00:01:38 the English of our day right
00:01:42 yeah
00:01:43 um and there was a period where Latin
00:01:46 was that and I think that’s why you know
00:01:49 Rome
00:01:50 the Catholic Church loves their Latin
00:01:52 because Latin was the common language
00:01:55 at least for their domain I don’t know
00:01:56 about the whole world but
00:01:59 um anyway well for the for their Known
00:02:01 World it was
00:02:04 the common language
00:02:06 yeah this is where I I haven’t studied
00:02:10 history on this so much but
00:02:13 I I would imagine that Greek was still
00:02:15 more common than Latin even though they
00:02:17 just decided to go with Latin I
00:02:20 for their official stuff and it was
00:02:22 probably just because
00:02:24 it was Rome and so they wanted to
00:02:26 use that language instead of
00:02:29 Greek I don’t know also
00:02:34 go ahead
00:02:35 well I mean this is this is you know the
00:02:39 language is the languages are
00:02:41 fascinating
00:02:43 but I really wanted to kind of get into
00:02:45 the message
00:02:49 that is in that is in the scriptures uh
00:02:53 that is that is in these Hebrew that is
00:02:56 in these translations from the Hebrew
00:02:58 and we could compare it it’s like I
00:03:00 think and I was thinking we could
00:03:02 compare
00:03:05 do a compare and contrast with our King
00:03:09 James versions
00:03:10 and see
00:03:12 whether or not this does in fact
00:03:16 make the gospel clearer
00:03:20 let me see if I can get it so you can
00:03:23 share your screen
00:03:26 it’s not on my I don’t have it on Matt’s
00:03:29 computer I have it on my phone
00:03:32 so I can’t share the screen but we can
00:03:35 read and something we can read verse by
00:03:38 verse and see
00:03:41 um okay see the differences
00:03:43 okay well one thing I know you can at
00:03:46 least share the main link I think it’s
00:03:48 like Hebrew gospels.com or something
00:03:50 like that yes it’s really it’s really
00:03:52 simple Hebrew gospels.com
00:03:56 um can you type that into this chat
00:03:59 I think that’s the same group that has a
00:04:02 YouTube channel by the same name if I
00:04:04 remember correctly yes
00:04:06 um which I I do like their their videos
00:04:09 they have some nice things there
00:04:12 um
00:04:16 um there we go
00:04:18 it’s very it’s really very uh yeah very
00:04:23 utilitarian name
00:04:27 all right cool got it all right it does
00:04:30 not create a lot of confusion now the
00:04:34 thing that you’ll find is that when you
00:04:36 go to go into the actual translations
00:04:39 it’s going to download on your computer
00:04:41 or whatever you’re using to access
00:04:46 no it doesn’t keep you on the web
00:04:50 yeah it’ll download onto your computer
00:04:53 or onto your computer or phone whatever
00:04:56 you
00:04:57 but whatever you have used access it
00:04:59 because that’s
00:05:01 um
00:05:02 so it’s probably PDFs is probably what
00:05:04 they’re sharing then uh PDFs and you can
00:05:07 also switch to wardrobe too okay
00:05:12 and so and so you can
00:05:16 um no but the great thing about
00:05:17 downloading that is that each one of
00:05:20 these gospels comes with its own proofs
00:05:22 of age one of these gospels comes with
00:05:24 its own proofs of authenticity and you
00:05:25 can study those at your leisure
00:05:29 um
00:05:30 and so it is
00:05:33 on your own on your own path
00:05:37 uh and so that’s uh that’s some it’s a
00:05:41 really good it’s actually a really good
00:05:43 resource but I was I I think that the uh
00:05:47 I think it would be good to go into
00:05:51 um the Hebrew gospel compare it
00:05:54 to the king and compare to the King
00:05:57 James version
00:05:59 and see
00:06:01 and see if these things
00:06:05 are not
00:06:07 yes it is
00:06:08 hold it yes it is made more clear yeah
00:06:12 it made more clear
00:06:14 right I I think there might have been a
00:06:16 possible reasons why it does make it
00:06:18 more clear for one
00:06:20 it’s just Hebrew to English and the
00:06:24 these translators at least for some of
00:06:27 these
00:06:28 actually uh understand the Hebrew and
00:06:31 the the concepts are being taught so
00:06:34 they can translate it better
00:06:35 versus
00:06:38 um Hellenistic people
00:06:40 who who believe but they don’t really
00:06:43 understand and so they can it’s hard for
00:06:46 them to translate something they don’t
00:06:47 really understand right right the
00:06:50 wonderful the wonderful thing about this
00:06:52 translation of Hebrew gospels is that it
00:06:55 is unabashedly unequivocally
00:07:00 testifying of our savior
00:07:04 as the Messiah
00:07:07 yeah okay there is there’s there’s uh it
00:07:13 it’s not a uh
00:07:16 it’s not something that yeah people say
00:07:18 yeah
00:07:20 it’s not a translation by somebody who
00:07:23 has an accident right against Jesus
00:07:26 Christ and so this is
00:07:29 and this so this is this is very so so I
00:07:34 and it and it’s directly from an
00:07:37 authenticated uh Hebrew transcript so
00:07:40 this is this is this is big this is huge
00:07:45 so
00:07:46 so do you have a particular uh
00:07:51 let’s start in Matthew chapter five
00:07:54 okay terminal I actually was if you
00:07:57 didn’t have one of my I was gonna
00:07:58 suggest Sermon on the Mount yeah so
00:08:01 let’s start in Matthew chapter five
00:08:04 I’m going to read verse one
00:08:07 from the Hebrew gospel
00:08:12 from the Hebrew Matthew and then I want
00:08:14 then if somebody else could read verse
00:08:17 one from the King James
00:08:19 all right
00:08:21 so thanks Dan
00:08:22 okay yes yes
00:08:26 um
00:08:27 I’m gonna be more just kind of in the
00:08:30 background because I I’m on my phone
00:08:33 yeah it’s a little harder for me
00:08:39 Joseph Smith translation also oh yeah
00:08:43 somebody yeah somebody get into the
00:08:44 Joseph Smith translation as well if you
00:08:46 have
00:08:47 um
00:08:49 Zach said he can do the jst so that’ll
00:08:52 be good yep okay
00:08:55 all right let me know when you’re there
00:08:57 Zach
00:08:59 and Sue
00:09:02 okay yeah
00:09:05 okay
00:09:09 almost
00:09:10 okay so we’re just going to kind of
00:09:13 Round Rob and read through this
00:09:16 and see what and see and see how we can
00:09:19 and see how we can best understand
00:09:22 what I what I now after having read
00:09:25 Hebrew Matthew I call it the sermon on
00:09:27 Torah
00:09:30 oh wait a minute I’ve said that before
00:09:32 yeah well I I wasn’t in the place where
00:09:35 I could say that yet because okay all
00:09:38 right okay so now now I’m saying it from
00:09:42 having from having read something you
00:09:45 said that through five right yes Matthew
00:09:48 five okay
00:09:49 alrighty so I will start you ready Zach
00:09:53 yeah
00:09:54 okay so I will start with the I will
00:09:57 start with verse one
00:10:01 guarded the people who are coming up
00:10:04 through the mountain and when he had set
00:10:06 himself down his talmudim Drew near to
00:10:09 him near unto him
00:10:11 so
00:10:13 so that’s a
00:10:15 that’s the
00:10:18 yeah he looked at it’s more than it’s
00:10:20 more than merely seen regarded
00:10:23 and the talmudim
00:10:25 the talmudim uh when one was regarded as
00:10:29 a master of the law they gathered
00:10:30 Kennedy
00:10:32 to themselves and the relationship of
00:10:34 the master to the comedy was actually
00:10:36 very
00:10:38 um was very important it was like a
00:10:40 almost Father and Son relationship and
00:10:44 so this is yeah a Hebrew Traditions uh
00:10:48 in fact the Hebrew culture still does
00:10:51 this if you do an apprenticeship
00:10:55 um
00:10:56 it’s not so common anymore with the
00:10:58 modern society but it still happens that
00:11:01 if you take an apprenticeship you
00:11:04 actually will go live with your teacher
00:11:06 and you will call him father
00:11:09 yeah because he’s now your leader yep so
00:11:13 now Susan uh now that so Susan go ahead
00:11:18 and read verse one
00:11:19 and seeing the multitudes he went up
00:11:22 into a mountain and when he was set his
00:11:24 disciples came unto him
00:11:27 okay and
00:11:31 Joseph Smith translation Zach
00:11:35 and Jesus seeing the multitude
00:11:39 went up into a mountain and when he was
00:11:41 sat down his disciples came unto him
00:11:45 so and so
00:11:49 what I what I want to what
00:11:54 there’s a depth of meaning conveyed in
00:11:56 the Hebrew
00:11:58 that is not necessarily but while the
00:12:03 Greek is very descriptive and it’s easy
00:12:05 to eat and it’s easy for our and it’s
00:12:08 easy for our minds to comprehend there’s
00:12:10 depth of um there’s a depth of
00:12:13 understanding
00:12:15 in
00:12:17 of the relationship between
00:12:20 Yeshua or Jesus and his disciples
00:12:24 conveyed in verse 1 of the Hebrew
00:12:28 Matthew that is not necessarily conveyed
00:12:32 I believe in verse 1 of the other two
00:12:37 well I think it’s more clear
00:12:40 um
00:12:41 where I
00:12:43 if you know what how fathers used and
00:12:47 whatnot like I was explaining a little
00:12:49 bit uh in the Hebrew culture it it’s
00:12:52 there
00:12:54 but it’s more
00:12:56 it’s less noticeable for
00:12:59 the more trained I guess for lack of a
00:13:02 better word or one who cares about the
00:13:04 Hebrew culture more right that makes
00:13:07 sense but that yeah that’s what I that
00:13:09 was what I was going to point out is you
00:13:11 know
00:13:13 there are some people that are not so
00:13:15 familiar with Hebrew culture
00:13:17 so yeah you know Ben you’re you’re in a
00:13:21 place now where you’re where you’re
00:13:23 opening up and you’re learning and
00:13:25 you’re
00:13:26 and you’re paying attention to this kind
00:13:28 of stuff but to the average
00:13:30 human on the face of the Earth they
00:13:34 don’t care about this stuff they don’t
00:13:38 and that’s the sad thing
00:13:42 well the thing is well
00:13:45 on top of that a lot of those who
00:13:49 are starting to wake up the problem is
00:13:52 they’re reading Hebrew scriptures with a
00:13:54 Hellenistic mindset and so they think
00:13:57 they see something that’s actually not
00:13:59 there right so okay so going in going
00:14:02 into verse two he opened his mouth and
00:14:05 thought them saying
00:14:09 the same and it’s it’s just the same
00:14:12 yep it’s exactly the same okay in the
00:14:16 King James okay so now let’s get now
00:14:18 we’re getting into the Beatitudes
00:14:20 blessed are the humble ones of spirit
00:14:23 for theirs is the kingdom of Yahweh
00:14:27 why that makes it easier to understand
00:14:29 the humble ones this one says of course
00:14:32 blessed are the poor in spirit for
00:14:34 there’s the kingdom of heaven and humble
00:14:36 ones makes so much more sense yes
00:14:41 yes
00:14:43 that that okay
00:14:47 um and in these I don’t know in the
00:14:49 1600s if that poor meant humble
00:14:54 more clearly than it does to them four
00:14:57 people attended generally to be more
00:14:59 humble
00:15:00 well
00:15:01 um I I would say the poor is poor in
00:15:05 spirit which is another way of saying
00:15:07 humble
00:15:08 um
00:15:10 and what is the Joseph Smith translation
00:15:13 read Zach on verse two three
00:15:19 blessed are they who believe on me
00:15:21 and again more blessed are they Who
00:15:23 Shall Believe on your words
00:15:25 when you shall testify that you have
00:15:27 seen me that I am
00:15:31 okay and verse and verse 4.
00:15:36 that because that one that one is a that
00:15:39 one’s a direct copy of what he says to
00:15:41 be bites verse four yeah so that that
00:15:43 one’s uh an insert right lots of
00:15:46 insertables
00:15:48 that’s an absurdive verse that really
00:15:50 kind of that really does kind of help to
00:15:52 uh clarify and it really comes back to
00:15:55 that humble ones of spirit it really
00:15:57 does point back to that so let’s go back
00:15:58 to uh let’s go on to verse forzak
00:16:01 okay because that was an insertive verse
00:16:04 okay Buster they Who Shall Believe on
00:16:06 your your words and come down into the
00:16:08 into the depths of humility
00:16:11 and be baptized in my name for they
00:16:14 shall be visited with fire and the Holy
00:16:16 Ghost and shall receive his remission of
00:16:19 their sins
00:16:21 wow so much about being humble there and
00:16:24 uh first life
00:16:26 you both started the poor in spirit who
00:16:29 come unto me for theirs is the kingdom
00:16:31 of heaven and so therefore the poor in
00:16:34 spirit had come unto me the humble ones
00:16:36 of spirit yep and so you see you see how
00:16:40 this is kind of how this and the Joseph
00:16:42 Smith translation are really kind of
00:16:43 blending together
00:16:45 right and I I would say if we actually
00:16:48 search the to knock the Old Testament
00:16:51 four uses of poor and spirit
00:16:54 we would come up with examples of humble
00:16:58 yeah
00:17:00 um I I unless someone wants to do it
00:17:03 themselves I’m a little crippled right
00:17:06 now but
00:17:08 um for me porn spirit and humble or same
00:17:11 thing did you want to say something Josh
00:17:14 no no I I was gonna say I was gonna say
00:17:17 what you just said to me they’re kind of
00:17:19 synonymous they they mean the same thing
00:17:22 it’s just different wording potato
00:17:25 potato tomato tomato
00:17:28 okay I know so that’s pretty so that’s
00:17:31 pretty cool and that’s pretty cool how
00:17:33 that’s worked out so far I’m gonna go
00:17:34 into verse four
00:17:36 blessed are the Weeping ones for unto
00:17:39 them Comfort will reach
00:17:43 what about verse uh what about
00:17:48 so what about verse four in the King
00:17:50 James
00:17:53 blessed are they that mourn for they
00:17:56 shall be comforted
00:17:58 it’s roughly the same kind of idea
00:18:00 pretty pretty and pretty similar
00:18:03 and Zach next verse and again blessed
00:18:07 are they that mourn for they shall be
00:18:09 comforted
00:18:10 yes basically the same thing yeah it all
00:18:14 comes together
00:18:15 now here’s one that’s really cool
00:18:18 and I I pointed this out to somebody I
00:18:21 pointed this out to somebody the other
00:18:22 day
00:18:23 verse five
00:18:25 blessed are the resting ones
00:18:28 for they will inherit the earth
00:18:31 the resting ones that that Hebrew word
00:18:35 that is that they have translated out to
00:18:38 resting ones are those who rest in
00:18:40 obedience to yahweh’s way
00:18:45 that’s what it means to be the arresting
00:18:48 one as one who rests in obedience
00:18:52 and this also
00:18:54 yeah and that makes that statement at
00:18:58 the end of that verse where they shall
00:18:59 inherit the earth much clearer
00:19:01 yeah
00:19:03 for they shall inherit the earth if we
00:19:06 rest in yahweh’s way
00:19:09 what is the King James say
00:19:13 um
00:19:17 blessed are the meek for they shall
00:19:19 inherit the earth
00:19:21 blessed are the resting ones those who
00:19:24 rest in the place
00:19:26 so
00:19:28 um I I lost connection I came back but
00:19:31 um one thing along with this lines
00:19:34 um sorry to introduce some but
00:19:38 um
00:19:40 when we look through the scriptures
00:19:42 it’s keeping the Commandments which
00:19:44 makes it so that we can
00:19:47 um
00:19:48 be in heaven right
00:19:52 but along with that
00:19:55 it also seems that it also seems to win
00:19:58 it also seems to Stage it also States
00:20:01 implicitly
00:20:03 that those who keep the Commandments
00:20:05 those who rest in the ways of don’t be
00:20:07 will inherit the earth
00:20:09 right
00:20:11 um and what I was going to say to go
00:20:12 along with that
00:20:14 um
00:20:15 this Earth is going to be translated
00:20:18 into heaven this is where Heaven’s going
00:20:21 to be
00:20:23 and so the what I’m trying to bring out
00:20:26 is
00:20:29 a lot of people will kind of try to say
00:20:32 that well you just need to love right
00:20:36 but a little bit more to it the thing
00:20:38 that they love to forget is how all the
00:20:42 law and the prophets hang on how
00:20:46 Yeshua is teaching us how he wants us to
00:20:51 do the loving
00:20:53 right
00:20:54 and then on top of that
00:20:57 um I can’t get the link and I easily I I
00:21:00 can give it later but charity
00:21:03 when you go look at the Hebrew word
00:21:06 behind it actually means keep the
00:21:09 Commandments
00:21:12 and so what I’m trying to bring out is
00:21:15 that throughout the scriptures it’s one
00:21:18 thing that points whether if we’re going
00:21:20 to live with Elohim or not and it’s
00:21:23 keeping his Commandments
00:21:26 or not
00:21:28 you mean you mean to tell me that
00:21:30 charity is not throwing a couple million
00:21:33 dollars at a cup at some starving people
00:21:35 so that you can be seen of the world to
00:21:37 be a good person
00:21:39 hey on top of that when it’s only like
00:21:42 .0001 per I’m exaggerating a little bit
00:21:45 of percent of the money that you
00:21:46 actually have right
00:21:50 now I’m glad I’m glad you caught my
00:21:53 sarcasm there okay good good
00:21:57 yeah I saw what you did there saw what
00:21:59 you did there yeah charity is not
00:22:01 throwing money at people charity is
00:22:04 keeping the law in fact if we go look at
00:22:06 Moroni seven going off a memory down in
00:22:09 the near the end of it when it defines
00:22:13 the pure love of Yahweh it’s listing
00:22:16 Commandments yeah the charity
00:22:19 here’s the thing
00:22:21 people charity is the most misunderstood
00:22:23 attribute
00:22:25 yes Amen in Scripture
00:22:30 because but it shouldn’t be if we’re not
00:22:33 trying to over if we’re not trying to
00:22:35 over complicate things
00:22:37 because
00:22:39 they Define they defined it very clearly
00:22:42 for us
00:22:45 charity is the Pure Love Of Christ
00:22:48 if you love how do we show Commandments
00:22:54 you’re muted Sue
00:22:59 yeah charity I think you and I were
00:23:02 trying to say the same thing so maybe
00:23:03 that’s why
00:23:05 if you love me keep my Commandments
00:23:08 charity is the Pure Love Of Christ
00:23:13 you’ll keep his Commandments
00:23:15 I I’ll I’ll say I think the world in
00:23:18 general has love wrong the the world
00:23:23 tries to make love into a feeling
00:23:26 instead of an action and commitment
00:23:35 go ahead Zach said love is a verb
00:23:39 yeah it is when you go look it up in the
00:23:41 dictionary it’s an action the
00:23:44 Commandments are how to love
00:23:48 how to show your Love You Love by
00:23:51 obeying these Commandments that’s how
00:23:52 you treat people and that’s how you show
00:23:54 God you’re loving
00:23:56 yeah
00:23:58 the Commandments are how Yahweh wants us
00:24:02 to show love to him and to others
00:24:05 um I might and might I add
00:24:07 that charity is not just keeping the
00:24:10 Commandments but it is keeping
00:24:12 Commandments
00:24:14 for no other reason
00:24:19 than that we love God
00:24:22 right and Moroni seven early verses
00:24:25 talks about
00:24:29 um if you do it for the wrong reason
00:24:30 it’ll be counted on to you for
00:24:32 wickedness
00:24:33 um
00:24:34 so the other thing that I was trying to
00:24:36 say just real quick
00:24:38 um is no that’s fine
00:24:41 um I we we all do it right so it’s fine
00:24:45 um
00:24:46 is that even in
00:24:50 um
00:24:51 wedding ceremonies it brings out
00:24:55 here’s this person you’re loving and
00:24:57 you’re supposed to stay committed to
00:25:00 them through everything for sickness and
00:25:03 health
00:25:04 um
00:25:05 Richard Rich or poor
00:25:08 it’s bringing out I don’t remember all
00:25:11 the words but it’s bringing out to the
00:25:13 point that you’re you stay committed to
00:25:16 this person
00:25:18 no matter the circumstances period even
00:25:21 if they’re annoying the heck out of you
00:25:25 um
00:25:26 my wife will tell you that I annoy her
00:25:29 at times I’m sorry
00:25:33 um
00:25:34 but she has stayed with me because she
00:25:36 loves me it’s a commitment
00:25:39 Society
00:25:42 has forgotten
00:25:44 forgotten about commitment
00:25:46 and have tried to replace it with the
00:25:49 feeling and they wonder why there’s
00:25:53 problems and they’re not happy
00:25:55 so that with a feeling with warm fuzzies
00:25:59 oh yeah yeah well some it was some kind
00:26:03 of feeling anyway that’s one other
00:26:07 just one other aspect of this blessed
00:26:11 are the resting ones
00:26:15 what is the Hebrew word for rest
00:26:20 I don’t know
00:26:21 Shabbat
00:26:25 well now that makes sense
00:26:27 and and
00:26:29 uh actually at the beginning of I I it’s
00:26:33 hard for me to look but I
00:26:36 I think in the beginning of Moroni 7
00:26:38 talks about entering his breast and so
00:26:41 I’m going off a vague memory and it’s
00:26:43 not easy for me to check but when we
00:26:46 enter into his rest
00:26:50 Sabbat
00:26:52 it’s the Sabbath right
00:26:57 I I think and it might be either well
00:27:00 but I tend to think Moroni seven
00:27:03 um so I’m going off a vague memory and
00:27:05 it’s not easy for me to track check but
00:27:07 it is chapter 7 verse three oh okay
00:27:12 thank you Josh so I’m not too far off
00:27:14 but yeah not too far off at all
00:27:19 um
00:27:19 the Sabbath
00:27:21 day and when is Yeshua going to come and
00:27:25 Reign it’s the seventh Millennium which
00:27:28 is the seventh day that’s the rest
00:27:30 that’s when we will be with him to to
00:27:33 it’s an appointed time
00:27:36 anyway just trying to bring that in a
00:27:39 little bit
00:27:40 um
00:27:41 excellent
00:27:43 so here we are uh let’s um
00:27:46 let’s go now to verse six
00:27:51 blessed are the ones hungry and thirsty
00:27:54 for righteousness for they will be
00:27:56 satisfied and will become satisfied ones
00:28:05 how about that
00:28:07 I I know I would much rather be
00:28:09 satisfied than filled
00:28:11 so anyway go on Sue
00:28:14 blessed are they which do hunger and
00:28:16 thirst after righteousness for they
00:28:18 shall be filled and now see to me filled
00:28:21 and and
00:28:22 and satisfied or the same thing whereas
00:28:26 when I started reading this as a child
00:28:28 of course I had no idea what poor in
00:28:30 spirit meant I knew what Phil meant
00:28:39 that means you’re not hungry anymore
00:28:46 and uh and in the jst Zach
00:28:54 and oh yeah yeah sorry and blessed are
00:28:57 oh they were that do hunger and thirst
00:29:00 up to righteousness
00:29:01 but they shall be filled with the Holy
00:29:03 Ghost oh
00:29:06 this is what it means to be satisfied
00:29:09 this is what it means to become
00:29:11 satisfied once
00:29:14 you see how compatible
00:29:18 the whole this Hebrew gospel is with the
00:29:22 Joseph Smith translation
00:29:24 it is incredible how compatible the two
00:29:28 are
00:29:31 hmm
00:29:36 blessed are on to the next verse
00:29:41 oh there’s somebody that’s all right I
00:29:43 got disconnected I with my issues um but
00:29:47 anyways
00:29:48 um because I have issues
00:29:49 just just ask just ask social media I
00:29:53 have issues but anyways
00:29:56 this time Stephen you’re doing a great
00:29:58 job all by yourself yeah I know
00:30:01 um
00:30:04 um being satisfied
00:30:07 has a lot to be with having the peace
00:30:10 right and and peace comes from living
00:30:14 yahweh’s ways
00:30:16 and he always weighs another term for
00:30:19 that the law or Torah is the holy
00:30:23 Behavior the holy Behavior which is the
00:30:26 Holy Spirit
00:30:28 so they go hand in hand with each other
00:30:33 according to my experience
00:30:36 most of the world has absolutely no idea
00:30:39 what Joy is
00:30:42 yes and they confuse excitement and
00:30:45 happiness
00:30:47 for
00:30:48 the joy
00:30:50 and there’s no other way to experience
00:30:52 Joy
00:30:55 other than the
00:30:58 the
00:30:59 baptism of the fire
00:31:02 and of the Holy Ghost
00:31:05 they just there’s just
00:31:07 there’s no way to put it into words
00:31:10 and that’s the kind of Joy this is
00:31:12 talking about that’s the kind of feeling
00:31:14 that this is talking about this is the
00:31:16 this is what it means to be the
00:31:18 satisfied ones
00:31:21 satisfied to go with what Sue’s saying
00:31:24 most people are always
00:31:26 searching out their
00:31:29 the latest and greatest or the next
00:31:32 um pleasure
00:31:36 or the next mystery or the next new
00:31:39 thing or the next yeah
00:31:41 a lot of people are addicted to learning
00:31:44 new ideas and Concepts but never coming
00:31:47 to the truth or
00:31:51 there’s this difference about being
00:31:52 satisfied
00:31:55 and not needing more but wanting more at
00:31:59 the same time versus
00:32:02 addicted to all these new wins of
00:32:05 doctrine that push you to and fro every
00:32:09 direction that anyways
00:32:13 um
00:32:16 I’m probably not describing it very well
00:32:20 um
00:32:21 but I I do think it sounds like some of
00:32:24 them here are understanding that it’s
00:32:26 there’s a big difference between needing
00:32:29 the latest and newest greatest idea
00:32:33 yeah to satisfy you versus
00:32:36 being satisfied
00:32:38 but wanting to go back to the banquet
00:32:41 for more
00:32:45 yeah versus going to another restaurant
00:32:48 possibly as it going along with that
00:32:50 analogy of the banquet right
00:32:52 um anyways
00:32:55 yeah
00:32:56 yeah okay
00:32:58 um does anybody else have anything to
00:33:00 add before we move on to the next coach
00:33:03 oh okay
00:33:05 blessed are the compassionate ones
00:33:09 for they will obtain compassion
00:33:17 well it’s not necessarily but it’s I
00:33:21 think it is it it is a different level
00:33:24 it is a difference it is on a whole new
00:33:27 level
00:33:29 um but if
00:33:32 whenever whenever when everything’s
00:33:34 ready we can we’ll hear the
00:33:38 we’ll hear the King James version
00:33:40 blessed are the merciful for they shall
00:33:43 obtain Mercy blessed are the
00:33:46 compassionate ones for they shall and
00:33:47 for they shall they will obtain
00:33:49 compassion blessed are the merciful for
00:33:51 they shall obtain Mercy roughly roughly
00:33:54 roughly comparative Zach
00:33:58 and just he’s no different from King
00:34:01 James okay on that one okay so but this
00:34:05 is this is something that came to my
00:34:07 head as we were reading
00:34:10 compassion
00:34:11 is deeper than Mercy
00:34:16 it is an element
00:34:19 yes it is different than just Mercy
00:34:24 Mercy is just okay I grant you this
00:34:27 Grace because I realize that you didn’t
00:34:29 mean to hurt me so therefore you know I
00:34:32 will show mercy and I will forgive you
00:34:33 whereas compassion is like
00:34:37 so much there’s so much more involved in
00:34:41 compassion what did it say in third
00:34:43 Nephi Jesus saw that they didn’t want
00:34:46 him to leave and so he had his bowels
00:34:49 were moved with the Bastion towards them
00:34:53 I think
00:34:55 to go along with what Matt is bringing
00:34:58 up I think we should go look at the
00:34:59 actual definitions specifically the 1828
00:35:02 of mercy and compassion
00:35:05 okay
00:35:06 so if someone wants to look that up that
00:35:09 would be I think would be good
00:35:12 can you do that I’m working on it the
00:35:16 definition 1828 dictionary definition of
00:35:19 what
00:35:21 mercy and compassion I I would be prone
00:35:24 to start with mercy and then go with
00:35:26 compassion
00:35:28 um but
00:35:29 whoever’s doing it whatever order they
00:35:31 want to do it in right
00:35:35 interesting
00:35:42 it’s just me initially I would just kind
00:35:45 of think the immersing compassion is the
00:35:48 same thing
00:35:52 gives you very much where am I going to
00:35:53 see it okay
00:35:57 so what I’m at my computer I just go to
00:36:02 your I use Bing but whatever you want to
00:36:05 yours use uh just I just type in 1828
00:36:08 dictionary
00:36:10 or 18 Webster’s Dictionary and it takes
00:36:14 me to a website that someone has that is
00:36:17 pretty
00:36:18 it’s like 18 28 Webster’s dictionary.com
00:36:21 or something like that I’ve got Mercy
00:36:25 pulled up
00:36:29 all right
00:36:33 the it’s from the 1828 Webster’s
00:36:36 Dictionary right
00:36:38 yeah okay
00:36:44 that benevolence mildness or tenderness
00:36:48 of heart which disposes a person to
00:36:52 overlook injuries or to treat an
00:36:55 offender better than he deserves
00:36:59 the disposition that tempers Justice and
00:37:03 induces an injured person to forgive
00:37:05 trespasses and injuries and to forbearer
00:37:08 punishment or inflict less than law or
00:37:11 Justice will warrant
00:37:14 in this sense there is perhaps no word
00:37:17 in our language precisely synonymous
00:37:20 with Mercy that which comes nearest to
00:37:25 it is Grace
00:37:28 okay it applies benevolence
00:37:31 tenderness mildness pity or compassion
00:37:35 and clemency
00:37:37 but exercised only toward offenders
00:37:40 Mercy is a distinguishing attribute of
00:37:43 the Supreme Being
00:37:46 uh next number two
00:37:49 an act or exercise of Mercy or favor it
00:37:53 is a mercy that they escaped
00:37:57 um pity
00:38:00 Compassion manifested or is that word
00:38:02 compassion manifested towards a person
00:38:05 in distress
00:38:08 uh clemency and bounty
00:38:10 charity
00:38:12 or the duties of Charity and benevolence
00:38:15 Grace or favor
00:38:17 well this is an interesting one
00:38:20 eternal life the fruit of Mercy
00:38:24 uh cross-referenced that was second
00:38:26 Timothy 1 verse 2.
00:38:29 a the next one is pardon
00:38:33 and the last one is the act of sparing
00:38:36 or the forbearance of a violent act
00:38:38 expected
00:38:43 that’s Mercy
00:38:46 of compassion
00:38:49 I haven’t I can I’ll look it up hold on
00:38:52 my man already has a habit oh you have
00:38:55 it okay okay are we ready
00:38:57 yeah
00:38:59 hey so the noun compassion is a noun a
00:39:02 suffering with another painful sympathy
00:39:05 a sensation of Sorrow excited by the
00:39:08 distress or misfortunes of another
00:39:10 pity commiseration compassion is a mixed
00:39:15 passion compounded of love and sorrow at
00:39:19 least some portion of Love generally
00:39:20 attends the pain or regret or is excited
00:39:23 by it extreme distress of an enemy even
00:39:27 changes enmity into at least temporary
00:39:30 affection
00:39:32 e being full of compassion forgave their
00:39:35 iniquity Psalm 78 38 and his father had
00:39:39 compassion and ran and fell on his neck
00:39:41 and kissed him Luke 15 20. compassion is
00:39:46 of transitive verb to pity
00:39:51 so it seems that compassion has actually
00:39:54 a much more Universal
00:39:58 um right and one thing I would say that
00:40:02 reminds me more compassion of mosiah 18
00:40:07 and the one of the things that it likes
00:40:10 to bring out about the baptism Covenant
00:40:13 because the
00:40:15 ah
00:40:17 baptism is a witness of a covenant
00:40:19 already made right and the Covenant is
00:40:21 to keep all of yahweh’s Commandments but
00:40:24 one of the things that actually
00:40:26 specifically brings out and I’d have to
00:40:30 look up the exact wording but it’s
00:40:32 something
00:40:33 um
00:40:35 with those who mourn
00:40:37 which is what compassion brought out
00:40:40 where Mercy did not right right yeah and
00:40:44 actually Mercy Mercy is connected to
00:40:47 passion in the very definition of mercy
00:40:51 it is connected to Passion like it is a
00:40:54 part of compassion
00:40:56 so here is so I’m just going to read
00:40:59 that thing that those verses where it
00:41:02 talks about what we’re
00:41:04 what we’re promising at baptism from
00:41:07 mosiah chapter 18.
00:41:09 versus uh one of them is going to be
00:41:13 that we promise to keep all his
00:41:14 Commandments and so that might be
00:41:16 further up but later down it brings up
00:41:19 the focus of mourn with those who mourn
00:41:22 so all right chapter 18 verses 18
00:41:25 through 20 is the actual reference no
00:41:27 eight or eight sorry eight through
00:41:32 um
00:41:32 okay I’ll start in verse seven and it
00:41:35 came to pass after many days there were
00:41:38 a goodly number gathered together at the
00:41:40 place of Mormon to hear the words of
00:41:42 Alma yeah all were gathered together
00:41:44 that believed on his word to cure him
00:41:46 and he to teach them and to preach unto
00:41:49 them repentance
00:41:51 and Redemption and faith on the Lord
00:41:54 and it came to pass that he said unto
00:41:55 them behold here are the Waters of
00:41:57 Mormon for thus were they called and now
00:42:00 is he our desirous to come into the hold
00:42:02 of God and to be called his people
00:42:05 and are willing to Bear one another’s
00:42:07 burdens that they may be like
00:42:09 yea and are willing to mourn with those
00:42:12 that mourn that bearing one another’s
00:42:14 burdens that they may be light that’s
00:42:16 another aspect of compassion and are
00:42:18 willing to mourn with those that mourn
00:42:20 further compassion get comfort those
00:42:22 that stand in need of comfort
00:42:25 and passion here we’re promising here we
00:42:27 are promising to stand in
00:42:31 and fulfill the promises
00:42:34 the Savior made
00:42:37 to those
00:42:39 who weep
00:42:41 to those who mourn
00:42:43 we we’re promising to stand in
00:42:46 for the Savior and do that
00:42:50 when you know
00:42:52 that makes a lot of sense because I I
00:42:54 mean the baptism the Covenant is or the
00:42:58 witness that you’re making with baptism
00:43:00 is that you keep all his Commandments
00:43:02 but I think that makes sense what you’re
00:43:04 bringing out
00:43:05 there have been about how it’s bringing
00:43:09 out things of what
00:43:11 the savior is doing for us and that’s
00:43:14 part of what he’s actually bringing out
00:43:17 in these passages right as basically and
00:43:21 here and basically a blueprint for how
00:43:24 he wants us to show that love and let’s
00:43:26 finish this and to stand as Witnesses of
00:43:30 God at all times and in all things and
00:43:33 in all places that ye may be in even
00:43:36 until death that ye may be redeemed of
00:43:39 God and be numbered with those of the
00:43:41 first resurrection that you may have
00:43:43 eternal life
00:43:45 now I say unto you if this be the desire
00:43:49 of your hearts
00:43:50 what have you against being baptized in
00:43:54 the name of the Lord as a witness before
00:43:57 him that ye have entered into a covenant
00:43:59 with him that ye will serve him and keep
00:44:03 his Commandments
00:44:06 having charity
00:44:09 that he may pour out his spirit so I
00:44:12 just want to bring something out keep
00:44:14 his Commandments having charity
00:44:18 that’s the fight I haven’t noticed that
00:44:20 one before but
00:44:22 um if I heard it right that’s defining
00:44:25 charity as keeping his Commandments as
00:44:28 well
00:44:30 I added I added that because his
00:44:34 Commandments then we love it I added
00:44:36 that yeah
00:44:39 when I try to approach the app it throws
00:44:43 me out so I have to anyways yeah you
00:44:47 just kind of you’re just kind of you’re
00:44:49 just kind of riding along the Riff right
00:44:50 now aren’t you yeah well
00:44:53 my current situation so anyways yeah I I
00:44:58 hope that everybody is fun I hope that
00:45:01 everybody’s finding this is um
00:45:03 as joyful as I am
00:45:06 oh yeah as I read as I read through this
00:45:08 and come to an understanding of where
00:45:10 Jesus was actually preaching okay
00:45:15 we’re saying
00:45:18 blessed are the pure ones of heart
00:45:21 blessed are the pure ones of heart for
00:45:25 they shall see healthy
00:45:30 what does what is verse 7 say in the
00:45:33 King James
00:45:34 or verse eight yeah sorry verse 8.
00:45:38 blessed are the pure in heart for they
00:45:40 shall see God
00:45:46 and and King and uh Joseph Smith
00:45:48 translation is the same
00:45:50 almost like and busted are all the pure
00:45:54 in heart for they shall see God
00:45:57 so he makes it a universal thing all the
00:46:00 just like the pure ones of heart makes
00:46:04 it a universal thing do we see how the
00:46:08 Joseph Smith translation is bringing
00:46:10 this
00:46:12 into
00:46:15 a Harmony
00:46:19 I I do
00:46:21 um yeah
00:46:24 I I mean so
00:46:27 The Book of Mormon title page brings out
00:46:29 how it was translated by a gentile
00:46:31 Joseph Smith he was a gentile
00:46:34 um
00:46:35 and I’m very grateful for what he he did
00:46:38 in bringing forth modern scripture
00:46:42 but I think also though
00:46:47 he didn’t because of everything he was
00:46:49 doing and taking care of so many people
00:46:52 he didn’t have the time to think about
00:46:55 how he was actually bringing Hebrew
00:46:58 Concepts back to light
00:47:00 and so he
00:47:03 was to some extent bringing it back in
00:47:07 Hebrew or I mean in Gentile Hellenistic
00:47:10 way of thinking but he was actually
00:47:12 bringing facts there’s one guy I it kind
00:47:16 of helped me wake up to Torah one thing
00:47:19 he stated and I actually would tend to
00:47:21 agree with this that the Book of Mormon
00:47:23 was the start of the Hebrew Roots
00:47:26 movement
00:47:29 um
00:47:31 there is so much Hebrew roots in the in
00:47:34 the Book of Mormon unless she actually
00:47:36 said it you’re not going to see it
00:47:38 but it was the really the
00:47:43 initiating of that caused it
00:47:46 I mean there’s others that have
00:47:48 happened that deny the Book of Mormon
00:47:51 but the initial one that really started
00:47:54 the Hebrew Roots movement was the Book
00:47:56 of Mormon
00:47:57 [Music]
00:47:58 so
00:48:00 so well that’s pretty cool
00:48:03 um going into verse 9.
00:48:06 blessed are the men of shalom
00:48:11 for they shall be called the Sons of
00:48:13 Joel
00:48:15 shalom means wholeness completeness for
00:48:18 well-being can also mean peace
00:48:23 blessed are the men of shalom
00:48:26 for they shall be called
00:48:29 the sons of Yogi and Sons in Hebrew is
00:48:33 actually inclusive of sons and daughters
00:48:36 it’s not an exclusive concept well so in
00:48:41 most languages
00:48:43 when they have masculine and feminine
00:48:46 the masculine includes both right in the
00:48:50 context so I I that’s nothing new it’s
00:48:55 just something to keep in mind
00:48:57 but it’s it’s something that the woke
00:49:00 crew won’t get
00:49:01 uh yeah the the woke aren’t so woke
00:49:04 though but anyways
00:49:06 exactly yeah but that’s what I’m that
00:49:10 the woke up woefully asleep
00:49:16 well the at least the translators got it
00:49:19 it says blessed are the peacemakers for
00:49:21 they shall be called the children of God
00:49:23 and we all know that children is
00:49:25 inclusive right right
00:49:27 yeah yes absolutely but and that’s
00:49:30 interesting the men of shalom
00:49:33 peacemakers
00:49:35 so Jesus Christ
00:49:38 was he not a man of shalom
00:49:42 a man
00:49:44 um so I I would also add to this that a
00:49:48 peacemaker is someone it’s not someone
00:49:51 who just says okay let’s stop arguing
00:49:55 it’s someone
00:49:57 who is teaching yahweh’s ways because
00:50:00 that is the actual source of peace
00:50:03 Yahweh well
00:50:08 I mean
00:50:09 in the Old Testament it didn’t seem like
00:50:11 that so much it was
00:50:16 that
00:50:16 in other words the only time you have
00:50:18 peace is when you’re obeying right right
00:50:21 right yeah well and then
00:50:25 but they were pretty bad
00:50:28 of the
00:50:30 discomfort that comes
00:50:34 from not obeying the Commandments and he
00:50:37 did cause a great amount of discomfort
00:50:39 to those who were not obeying the
00:50:41 Commandments because they didn’t want a
00:50:43 year what he had to say
00:50:46 and so they were uncomfortable he wasn’t
00:50:48 uncomfortable well I mean until the end
00:50:50 when he was often the source of their
00:50:53 uncomfort yes
00:50:55 well he reminded them of the source of
00:50:58 their discomfort which was their willful
00:51:00 disobedience
00:51:02 and the thing is is that there’s an
00:51:05 awful lot of people that are not
00:51:08 comfortable in our current Society who
00:51:10 pretend they are
00:51:12 and
00:51:13 and
00:51:15 the society wants to push on us the idea
00:51:17 that they are
00:51:19 and they have become comfortable in
00:51:21 their lack of comfort
00:51:24 they don’t they don’t even know how to
00:51:26 live without it it ends all that
00:51:29 yes which is which is amazing
00:51:33 so yeah I’m going off a rough memory
00:51:37 because I if I switch apps
00:51:42 it kicks me out so but I think it’s I
00:51:46 I’ve I have a recording on this I’ll put
00:51:48 in the notes but I think it’s mosiah 26
00:51:52 or in that range it
00:51:55 um or it talks about how Alma
00:51:59 the younger is a peacemaker while he’s
00:52:02 going out and teaching
00:52:05 he always weighs so this is after his
00:52:07 conversion right because he was a wicked
00:52:10 man initially
00:52:12 um so I I or maybe it’s mosiah 28 but
00:52:15 somewhere in that range
00:52:18 um
00:52:19 it brings out how uh Alma the younger
00:52:24 is a peacemaker while he’s going out and
00:52:26 teaching yahweh’s ways
00:52:28 yep
00:52:30 so that is this is the this is this this
00:52:34 is what it means to be a man of shalom
00:52:40 to be a preacher of the way of peace
00:52:43 to be a preacher in the way of peace to
00:52:45 be and not only a preacher but a liver
00:52:49 well yeah how can you teach how can you
00:52:52 actually teach what you don’t live
00:52:53 because you don’t know it
00:52:55 well a lot of people people do it all
00:52:58 the time people do it all the time
00:53:00 to say that people do it all the time
00:53:03 um but it’s not but it’s not it’s not
00:53:06 true Doctrine
00:53:07 yeah you’re right
00:53:10 well people can it cannot be a true
00:53:12 Doctrine coming from them
00:53:15 I I’ve seen people teach true things
00:53:18 without the depth that aren’t are not
00:53:22 actually keeping it
00:53:24 um and this is why in
00:53:27 oh
00:53:29 mosiah 24 through 27 or so
00:53:33 um
00:53:34 I’d look at my notes but I can’t right
00:53:37 now but it talks about
00:53:39 that
00:53:40 um part of the requirement of calling a
00:53:42 teacher is that they’re doing it also
00:53:46 right and then earlier in in Jacob seven
00:53:52 and I think
00:53:54 Alma one off a rough memory there’s the
00:53:57 two two of the three antichrists and
00:54:00 they say one thing and do another right
00:54:02 and I think that’s partly
00:54:04 to
00:54:05 combat that idea that you can preach one
00:54:10 thing and do another right
00:54:12 which they themselves I think we’re I
00:54:16 think we’re saying the same thing only
00:54:18 slightly differently
00:54:20 uh I think so I I I’m just maybe getting
00:54:23 into more details
00:54:28 go to verse 10
00:54:31 . I think we’ve about beaten that horse
00:54:33 we’ve beaten Shalom to a fairly well
00:54:37 blessed are those who bear the
00:54:39 persecutions because of righteousness
00:54:40 for theirs will be the Heavenly Kingdom
00:54:49 and King James
00:54:52 blessed are they which are persecuted
00:54:54 for righteousness sake for theirs is the
00:54:57 kingdom of heaven
00:54:59 I like the King James better there
00:55:09 yeah
00:55:11 that’s it’s probably the first time that
00:55:13 it might be a little clearer Zach can
00:55:15 you give us the jst yeah
00:55:18 blessed are all they that are persecuted
00:55:22 for my name’s sake for theirs is the
00:55:24 Kingdom of Heaven for righteousness sake
00:55:27 my name
00:55:29 yes righteousness
00:55:32 I’m with Sue I actually prefer the King
00:55:35 James all that but that could be just
00:55:36 because I’ve grown up with it but I do
00:55:39 believe they’re teaching the same thing
00:55:40 but and I and I actually prefer the
00:55:44 Joseph Smith translation because it’s so
00:55:47 obvious at that point
00:55:50 for whose name the persecution must be
00:55:56 [Music]
00:55:58 right the jst is kind of more in King
00:56:01 James language
00:56:03 um but anyways
00:56:06 um
00:56:07 yeah and you have to do it for
00:56:10 whose name not
00:56:12 not to brag or say I’m better than you
00:56:16 but for his sake right yes here’s here’s
00:56:21 something here’s something that we all
00:56:24 need to keep in mind
00:56:26 when you are in tune or when you are
00:56:30 living the law
00:56:32 you are living God’s life you’re not
00:56:34 living the world’s law you will be
00:56:37 persecuted
00:56:39 because the world can’t have that
00:56:44 the world can’t allow that to happen so
00:56:47 it will do everything
00:56:49 the world adversary however else you
00:56:53 want to put it it’s it’s the antithesis
00:56:56 of God and the law
00:56:59 uh and it cannot and it cannot allow
00:57:02 that to Pro to to exist and so you will
00:57:06 be persecuted if you are
00:57:11 will come yeah I think it’s Isaiah 8
00:57:14 that brings out uh the hate the truth
00:57:17 because there is no light in them right
00:57:21 exactly and where there is no light
00:57:23 where there’s absence of light
00:57:26 Darkness does not comprehend the light
00:57:29 and it doesn’t want the light so let’s
00:57:32 move over everything in its power to
00:57:33 stamp it out yep that is correct that is
00:57:36 correct and
00:57:38 just to do a Shameless plug
00:57:41 my all things you can do pose brings out
00:57:44 from the to knock the Old Testament that
00:57:47 light is defined as the law AKA Torah
00:57:52 correct yep
00:58:04 okay take care Josh thanks for coming
00:58:09 I got 10 more minutes so I want to get
00:58:11 through as much of this as possible so
00:58:13 10 minutes so let’s get into verse 11.
00:58:16 no I just want to say here I am standing
00:58:18 or sitting in the Darkness
00:58:21 hahaha
00:58:25 that’s a little
00:58:28 bit
00:58:31 no I I’m being funny and serious at the
00:58:34 same time
00:58:35 right it is the law that gives us the
00:58:38 light to know what is right and wrong
00:58:40 yes I agree
00:58:43 but I also find it interesting that is
00:58:47 what people fight against
00:58:50 very hard
00:58:53 it’s really the only thing that people
00:58:55 fight against is the right way because
00:58:57 everything else you can do the Hell in
00:59:00 the whatever and the thing you
00:59:02 want to do wow
00:59:09 uh what was said to uh to uh Saul at the
00:59:14 time who became Paul it is hard for you
00:59:16 to kick against the pricks
00:59:18 yeah because he fought against the
00:59:21 righteousness
00:59:23 yep he he loved his false traditions
00:59:28 yeah
00:59:29 and he loved persecuted and he loved
00:59:34 persecuting
00:59:35 I
00:59:36 yeah and I’ll go further he loved
00:59:39 killing people
00:59:41 for what he thought was right correct
00:59:44 yes for what he thought was right that I
00:59:47 will go over
00:59:48 um shall we continue yes please I think
00:59:52 we I would like to I would like to get I
00:59:54 would have like I would like at least to
00:59:56 get to verse 17 before Joshua okay so
01:00:00 let’s continue blessed ones you will be
01:00:03 when the men curse you and persecute you
01:00:06 and say all kinds of evil things against
01:00:08 you and lie because of me
01:00:13 um
01:00:15 and in the King James
01:00:18 blessed are ye but men shall revile you
01:00:21 and persecute you and shall say all men
01:00:24 are evil against you falsely for my sake
01:00:28 and Joseph Smith translation
01:00:31 for ye and Men shall revile you and
01:00:34 rescue you and shall say o manner of
01:00:38 evil against you falsely for my name for
01:00:41 my sake
01:00:42 so these are actually fairly equivalent
01:00:45 so let’s move on
01:00:47 Shout with joy your wages are great in
01:00:50 the heavens for so they persecuted the
01:00:53 prophets that were before you
01:00:55 King James
01:01:01 two
01:01:06 hold on
01:01:09 rejoice and be exceedingly glad
01:01:13 for great it’s your reward in the heaven
01:01:16 for so persecuted they the preference
01:01:18 which were before you
01:01:21 that is okay and jst
01:01:25 or you should have great joy and be
01:01:27 exceeding glad
01:01:28 her greatest for great shall be your
01:01:31 reward in heaven
01:01:33 all right the prophets which were before
01:01:36 you amen amen okay sorry about that I
01:01:39 kind of got ahead of myself a little bit
01:01:42 um yeah these are uh yeah would you
01:01:46 would you would we say would we agree
01:01:48 that these are roughly equivalent in
01:01:50 terms of our level of understanding them
01:01:52 yeah
01:01:54 yeah
01:01:56 um
01:01:58 two go ahead Sue okay in the study of
01:02:02 the Constitution
01:02:04 um
01:02:05 there was one thing that I that really
01:02:07 helped me as an individual because
01:02:10 I went through a lot of persecution
01:02:14 um I went through a lot of persecution
01:02:16 from from
01:02:19 loving my Down syndrome brother all the
01:02:22 way through you know
01:02:24 the hard things in life I went through
01:02:26 and um
01:02:29 I found great comfort in the fact that
01:02:33 um
01:02:34 oh dear John Adams
01:02:36 John Adams was considered too outspoken
01:02:40 and
01:02:41 um too boisterous and too she just was
01:02:46 considered one of those people that was
01:02:47 just outside of her and everyone just
01:02:52 you know
01:02:54 two two
01:02:56 um
01:03:00 to Absolute on principle
01:03:03 and these are the writers of the
01:03:05 Constitution I mean these were great
01:03:07 guys and he was just two and I want to
01:03:11 say righteous but I don’t know if that’s
01:03:12 the right word
01:03:14 uh it’s not but but too outspoken into
01:03:18 whatever for most of them and yet he was
01:03:22 our second president
01:03:24 he was elected by the voice of the
01:03:27 people to be the second president of our
01:03:29 country so
01:03:31 yeah
01:03:32 well and that’s and that’s a real that’s
01:03:35 really that’s a really cool thing thanks
01:03:37 for sharing that Sue
01:03:39 let’s go to uh verse 13 real quick here
01:03:42 let’s keep moving forward so that we can
01:03:45 kind of get to where kind of where I’m
01:03:47 angling to
01:03:50 and it happened for the verse 13 and it
01:03:52 happened furthermore that Yeshua
01:03:54 mashiach said
01:03:56 you are the instruction of the world
01:04:01 but the instruction is cut off by them
01:04:04 who are not saved and nothing else is
01:04:07 fit except to cast them who I will now
01:04:11 add something for myself them is those
01:04:15 who are not saved who cut off the
01:04:17 instruction to the street
01:04:20 and to trample them
01:04:26 well that’s quite a bit different
01:04:29 yes
01:04:31 um so me personally I think it says the
01:04:35 exact same thing other than it’s being a
01:04:38 little more direct
01:04:40 um because I I’m pretty sure in the King
01:04:43 James it says you know be a light unto
01:04:46 the people and when you go look at
01:04:49 what’s the slope of the Earth
01:04:52 this is this is the soul of the earth
01:04:54 okay so let’s read King James real quick
01:04:57 okay
01:05:00 these are the salt of the earth but if
01:05:02 the salts have lost its Savor wherewith
01:05:05 shall it be salted it is this Force good
01:05:08 for nothing but to be cast out and to be
01:05:11 trodden under the foot of myth and
01:05:13 that’s because they put it on the roads
01:05:15 right under your feet to to keep the
01:05:18 roads from growing leaves okay yeah so
01:05:22 but do you see how that changes
01:05:26 the focus
01:05:28 from
01:05:33 we are the instruction the salt is the
01:05:36 instruction
01:05:37 so we are to be the instruction to the
01:05:40 world but the and it says here but the
01:05:43 instruction is cut off
01:05:47 well why is it cut off by them who are
01:05:50 not saved and nothing else is spit
01:05:52 except to cast them into the street and
01:05:56 to trample them that’s a really
01:05:57 interesting thing Joseph Smith
01:05:58 cancellation take a look
01:06:03 very very
01:06:05 same to you I give unto you to be the
01:06:08 salt of the earth
01:06:10 but if the salt shall lose its savor
01:06:13 where was shall the Earth be salted the
01:06:16 salt shall thenceforth be good for
01:06:17 nothing but to be cast out and to be
01:06:20 trodden under it would have been
01:06:22 no that’s and that’s interesting that
01:06:24 one puts it right back on the uh back on
01:06:27 the instruction so basically if so
01:06:32 basically when we bring all these
01:06:33 together we can understand what it’s
01:06:35 talking about is that we’re supposed to
01:06:36 be the instruction and if we’re not
01:06:38 living if we’re not living according to
01:06:40 our instruction therefore we cut off
01:06:43 when you bring it all together if we cut
01:06:46 off the instruction
01:06:48 by our lack of obedience to the
01:06:50 instruction
01:06:53 then we’re good enough we’re good for
01:06:55 nothing except to be cast under the cast
01:06:58 under the foot of man
01:06:59 that’s really interesting
01:07:01 Saul
01:07:03 um if used properly makes things
01:07:06 actually taste better and it brings out
01:07:09 the natural flavor but if it’s
01:07:15 um not doing its job that’s that’s when
01:07:17 you go through it on the street because
01:07:19 it’s now it’s worthless and well maybe
01:07:21 not completely worthless but it’s not
01:07:25 much more good than just to go walk upon
01:07:28 right
01:07:29 which is not a good thing yeah yep
01:07:33 so uh yeah so there we go that so so you
01:07:37 know so now we’re now we’re seeing that
01:07:40 as we cross compare reading across
01:07:42 multiple translations we can actually
01:07:44 come to a much clearer knowledge
01:07:47 of what we’re actually talking about
01:07:51 where are you trying to get to Ben
01:07:53 because because uh personality I’m just
01:07:57 going to skip to 17. because the rest of
01:08:00 that is I mean we can go through the
01:08:02 rest of that another time
01:08:04 moreover Yeshua said to his family
01:08:08 do not think I came to throw down the
01:08:11 Torah and the prophets
01:08:13 on the contrary I came to confirm
01:08:20 that is the Hebrew translation of that
01:08:24 scripture
01:08:25 think not
01:08:28 that do not think that I am come to
01:08:30 throw down the Torah and the prophets on
01:08:33 the country on the contrary I came to
01:08:36 confirm I say to you in truth going to
01:08:39 verse 18 that not one word will be
01:08:42 diminished from the Torah and it’s with
01:08:45 that it will would not be performed
01:08:47 until the end of the world
01:08:52 so one thing I I do want to say uh play
01:08:56 Rue which is behind the word fulfill the
01:09:01 Greek in in most what most translation
01:09:04 Jews right actually means fully preached
01:09:09 and
01:09:10 um at the risk of getting disconnected
01:09:13 I’m gonna see if I can find
01:09:17 uh
01:09:19 um a couple different translations of
01:09:23 that word
01:09:25 um of actual published
01:09:29 translations of the bible let me see if
01:09:32 I can I I just I’m really disabled right
01:09:35 now
01:09:37 um I’m sorry that just I started
01:09:41 laughing because my new job that’s it’s
01:09:45 a company that hires people with
01:09:47 disabilities
01:09:49 um to get them acclimated so when you
01:09:52 said that that’s the first thing popped
01:09:54 into my head
01:09:58 uh not trying to be silly or anything
01:10:00 but it just tickled My Funny Bone so
01:10:04 when we go back to the original language
01:10:08 in which the gospels were taught
01:10:13 Jesus Christ came not to throw down
01:10:18 but to confirm
01:10:21 the end of the world
01:10:24 until the end
01:10:26 so it’s only preach
01:10:31 ers
01:10:32 yeah yeah so here is one two three four
01:10:36 five six translations I like that were
01:10:39 actually published okay
01:10:42 cev don’t suppose I came to do away with
01:10:46 the law and the prophets I did not come
01:10:48 to do away with them but to full meat
01:10:52 but to give them full meaning okay
01:10:55 I’m not gonna read the whole verse
01:10:57 because I if I go too long that zoom’s
01:11:00 gonna kick me out
01:11:03 CNT do not suppose I’ll have a period
01:11:07 that was the intention of abolishing the
01:11:10 teaching of the law and the prophets I
01:11:13 made my appearance not to abolish it but
01:11:17 to give full expression to it I cannot
01:11:22 give you some Assurance of this it is
01:11:25 not foreign
01:11:27 and Earth are removed that anything
01:11:30 shall be removed from the law
01:11:33 sgat do not suppose that I have come to
01:11:36 do away with the law or the prophets I
01:11:38 have not come to do away with them but
01:11:40 to enforce them
01:11:43 t-e-b do not think I have come to do
01:11:47 away with the law of Moses this is where
01:11:49 I would say Torah
01:11:51 um so I think this is a little bad
01:11:53 translation but anyways and the
01:11:56 teachings of the prophets I have not
01:11:58 come to do away with them but have
01:12:01 make their teachings come true
01:12:04 TM do not suppose for a minute that I
01:12:07 have come to demolish the scriptures
01:12:10 neither God’s law or the prophets I’m
01:12:13 here not here to demolish but to
01:12:16 complete I am going to put it all
01:12:19 together put it all together in a fast
01:12:24 panorama
01:12:28 p-a-n-o Rama
01:12:31 Panorama okay that’s it
01:12:34 um God’s law is
01:12:40 yes that word God’s law is more real and
01:12:45 Lasting than the stars in the sky and
01:12:49 the ground at your feet long after the
01:12:51 Stars burn out and the star Earth wears
01:12:54 out God’s law will be alive and working
01:12:57 wnf
01:13:00 now don’t get the idea that I’ve come to
01:13:03 destroy the Old Law or change the word
01:13:06 of the prophets I have not come to
01:13:08 destroy but to explain make relevant and
01:13:11 complete the law and the prophets
01:13:13 basically
01:13:14 there is no change to be made in the law
01:13:17 of God until everything is finished in
01:13:20 accordance with God’s plan that’s WMS so
01:13:23 those are my favorite ones the point is
01:13:27 that the law has not done away
01:13:30 right but Jesus but Yeshua
01:13:35 is the difference
01:13:38 between the law being gets to us
01:13:43 and the law being life to us yeah is
01:13:49 sacrifice changes the law from an
01:13:52 instrument of damnation
01:13:57 to an instrument of sanctification
01:14:01 exactly
01:14:04 um
01:14:05 the law is a double-edged sword it will
01:14:08 condemn you or it will save you
01:14:11 slash sanctify you right what does he
01:14:15 continuously say in the doctrine
01:14:17 my word is like a two-edged sword
01:14:24 yeah
01:14:26 and his word is law right yes hey Ben
01:14:30 thanks so much for sharing that
01:14:34 um you know while I was able to be here
01:14:36 today that that that really uh shed a
01:14:39 lot of light on on
01:14:41 a sermon on the mountain and
01:14:45 open my eyes to some things that I
01:14:47 hadn’t thought of uh previously so I
01:14:51 thank you very much we appreciate that
01:14:54 uh but I do have to go I’m I’ve got an
01:14:57 early day tomorrow so unfortunately I
01:15:00 can’t stay anymore
01:15:02 Josh
01:15:07 yeah
01:15:08 we’ll see you uh I shall see you at the
01:15:12 next meeting
01:15:13 yep good night Sue
01:15:20 I I too am going to have to go tomorrow
01:15:22 is a special day I have to be in the at
01:15:25 the Capitol all day
01:15:26 so um and we have to head out here in
01:15:29 time to get there early so
01:15:34 thank you I
01:15:38 I feel
01:15:39 um very much enlightened thank you
01:15:44 it had that effect it had that effect
01:15:46 for me too
01:15:49 me too thanks
01:15:52 shabbat shalom
01:16:04 I asked where you were reading from
01:16:07 oh that from Hebrew gospels.com
01:16:10 if you check the chat we have we have
01:16:14 the link posted there okay
01:16:17 because she came later
01:16:20 um so this was uh one of the Hebrew
01:16:24 um Matthew
01:16:26 there’s multiple I think there’s about
01:16:28 28 Hebrew Matthews out there manuscripts
01:16:31 some of them are more complete than
01:16:33 others I I’m not sure which this one
01:16:36 that this website is
01:16:38 focus on
01:16:41 Hey Stephen you muted yourself
01:16:44 [Music]
01:16:45 you know lovely okay can you hear me now
01:16:49 yeah yeah I I’m on my phone because uh
01:16:54 there’s no power in the house so anyways
01:16:57 um but
01:16:59 um there’s about 28 versions of the
01:17:02 Hebrew math through uh I’m not sure
01:17:04 which one this is coming from
01:17:07 but um
01:17:10 I’ve run across them in the past and
01:17:13 they I do find them enlightening the
01:17:16 various editions
01:17:18 um
01:17:19 or
01:17:20 I don’t know if editions is the right
01:17:22 word but the the different manuscripts
01:17:24 and then different people will translate
01:17:26 them a little differently but they
01:17:28 basically say the same thing
01:17:30 oh yeah
01:17:33 and this is one that unabashedly
01:17:36 declares Yeshua hamashiach
01:17:39 the only Messiah
01:17:43 it’s not like Shem Tov Matthew which
01:17:45 actually kind of has an ax an ax to
01:17:47 grind against that
01:17:49 [Music]
01:17:52 yeah some of them are some of the Jews
01:17:55 well
01:17:57 if you go there’s
01:18:00 sections of the talmud that are very
01:18:03 negative against Yeshua the promised
01:18:05 Messiah right
01:18:07 um
01:18:09 where other there are some Jews though
01:18:11 that have translated a Hebrew Matthew
01:18:14 manuscript that have been honest to it
01:18:16 despite their
01:18:20 grievance against him right
01:18:24 and so some Jews even though
01:18:28 what their negative feelings will do
01:18:30 accurate translations
01:18:32 um in English
01:18:33 so it’s it’s a mixed bag yeah for sure
01:18:40 sense
01:18:41 well that’s that’s why I recommend this
01:18:45 that’s why I recommend this particular
01:18:47 translation because the person the
01:18:50 person who wrote the manuscript either a
01:18:53 was a
01:18:56 a was it it was a Messianic Christian
01:19:00 or B
01:19:02 was honest to the original
01:19:05 um
01:19:06 intent of the work
01:19:10 right
01:19:12 um
01:19:14 although you can translate one way you
01:19:16 can have different feelings right of
01:19:19 what’s going on but
01:19:20 some Hebrew Mathers are better than
01:19:23 others and you probably miss this and
01:19:25 this website has this um there there’s
01:19:28 other gospels and other New Testament
01:19:31 works that are being found out that the
01:19:34 originals were Hebrew and not discreek
01:19:37 as most Scholars like to push
01:19:41 um
01:19:44 a lot of these things were later
01:19:45 translated into Greek or some of them
01:19:48 may have been written in Hebrew and
01:19:50 Greek at the same time
01:19:53 the original idea and and way of
01:19:56 thinking but Greek because that was the
01:20:00 modern day English of the time right
01:20:02 meaning the language of the world
01:20:05 the way that I look at the way that I
01:20:07 look at this
01:20:10 and of course I tend to be uh
01:20:13 there are people who would say that I’m
01:20:14 a conspiracy theorist
01:20:18 but I I like the the phrase conspiracy
01:20:21 realist more but yeah but I the way I
01:20:25 look at it is this
01:20:28 the Gentiles
01:20:31 received the gospel
01:20:33 rejected it
01:20:35 hijacked it
01:20:37 and changed it in their translation to
01:20:40 the Greek
01:20:46 I I see where you’re getting at I think
01:20:49 it’s
01:20:51 and this is maybe my view of it it I
01:20:55 don’t think they intentionally hijacked
01:20:58 it but they didn’t understand it
01:21:01 but the idea but the idea
01:21:05 but the idea that the gospels were
01:21:07 originally in Greek is hijacking
01:21:10 uh it’s straight hijacking uh I would
01:21:14 agree because Jesus was not free
01:21:16 Jesus was not Greek
01:21:19 Peter James and John were not Greek
01:21:23 neither was Paul
01:21:25 they were all Hebrews
01:21:30 and so they hijacked the the when they
01:21:33 say that the when they say that the New
01:21:36 Testament is Greek that is Gentiles
01:21:40 hijacking the gospel
01:21:42 and corrupting it that’s modern Gentiles
01:21:45 that push that idea though
01:21:48 um yeah because maybe not from the time
01:21:49 I talked about originally they they took
01:21:52 things from the Hebrew gospels like the
01:21:55 the wandering adulterous woman
01:21:58 right they knew it was there but I I
01:22:01 think
01:22:02 that they spoke Greek I I I’ll be honest
01:22:07 I I don’t speak Hebrew
01:22:09 no um I know about how to go use tools
01:22:12 to help me understand it and go back to
01:22:14 the originals and so with modern
01:22:16 technology it’s easier than it was back
01:22:19 then
01:22:20 um just in the fact that we’re meeting
01:22:22 right now right or I’m meeting in the
01:22:25 dark
01:22:26 and you’re in Texas and I’m in Argentina
01:22:30 right
01:22:31 right it’s amazing that’s not possible
01:22:34 without modern technology but
01:22:37 um I I would also say
01:22:40 as Joseph Smith did there were some that
01:22:43 were intentionally
01:22:45 deceivers where I think most of them
01:22:48 just didn’t know any better and made
01:22:50 honest mistakes
01:22:53 well it only takes a few intentional
01:22:55 receivers to hijack a gospel it really
01:22:58 does I I I I completely agree with you
01:23:00 but I do think so so when I say that
01:23:03 when I say the Gentiles did it I’m not
01:23:06 talking about all the Gentiles who are
01:23:08 guilty of all of this kind of thing I’m
01:23:11 talking about generally speaking the
01:23:13 Gentiles receive the Gospel and this
01:23:15 actually is fully backed up by the Book
01:23:17 of Mormon
01:23:19 and after they received the gospel you
01:23:22 have the foundation of the great and
01:23:23 abominable Church
01:23:25 oh yeah yeah yeah I I I completely agree
01:23:28 that I I’m just trying to throw it in
01:23:29 there because especially go look at
01:23:32 Constantine’s time
01:23:34 yeah or a lot of Christians no I don’t
01:23:37 call myself a Christian anymore I call
01:23:38 myself a nursery to be specific in ezri
01:23:41 Mormon but a lot of Christians today
01:23:45 get upset or
01:23:49 just her little word fights but back in
01:23:55 Constantine’s time people stood up for
01:23:58 what was right
01:23:59 to the point where they got burned right
01:24:02 yeah Constantine was burning people
01:24:05 burning it was burning Christians
01:24:08 had it completely correct
01:24:13 they
01:24:15 they went through tribulations were
01:24:17 today if someone just says a word they
01:24:21 cry
01:24:22 I know and and seek their safe space
01:24:26 yeah I I mean that’s ridiculous so even
01:24:29 if they didn’t have a right they had a
01:24:31 lot more dedication back then then
01:24:35 these pretended Christians have today
01:24:39 yes especially the ones who preach that
01:24:43 the god of the Bible is an abomination
01:24:48 and a false god
01:24:51 right a lot of Christians today are like
01:24:55 mixing New Age stuff and they don’t even
01:24:58 I I think some of them know it and some
01:25:00 of them
01:25:01 and I think majority of them just don’t
01:25:04 know because they haven’t read their
01:25:06 Bible
01:25:07 or or their Book of Mormon but
01:25:10 there’s a lot of deception going on
01:25:11 today
01:25:15 yeah the spirit of deception is rampant
01:25:18 yeah which the Bible prophesied for
01:25:22 just before the the second coming so
01:25:25 it’s going
01:25:26 to what the prophets knew was going to
01:25:28 happen but
01:25:31 um it’s sad to see a lot of people buy
01:25:33 into it in fact I think it’s Matthew 24
01:25:36 brings out how people’s hearts will grow
01:25:39 cold because they reject
01:25:42 the law slash Torah I mean it’s just
01:25:46 like I’m just like I’m watching now with
01:25:48 these people that are buying heavily
01:25:51 into the Name Records
01:25:54 oh
01:25:57 wherein you can purchase the secrets of
01:25:59 the universe for 75 books at 15 bucks a
01:26:02 pop that’s
01:26:04 1125 dollars
01:26:06 I thought there was only one of those
01:26:08 things they’re they’re 17 of them
01:26:10 yeah well there’s I I maybe I’m I’m
01:26:14 exaggerating a little bit but the point
01:26:16 is is that you can the point is that you
01:26:19 can
01:26:20 apparently all the secrets of the
01:26:22 universe right there in your life the
01:26:24 men high records and they talk about how
01:26:27 they have a height how they have higher
01:26:29 Doctrine
01:26:30 higher even than Christ they don’t
01:26:32 necessarily say it this way but it’s
01:26:34 like
01:26:35 well it’s higher than the Bible so it’s
01:26:37 higher than what Christ preached
01:26:39 is what I’m thinking and it’s like I’m
01:26:42 watching it’s like I’m watching the
01:26:44 foundation of the zoramites in slow
01:26:46 motion happening right in front of my
01:26:48 eyes
01:26:49 there is a lot of things I can do about
01:26:51 it I I I’ll be on I’ve looked into it
01:26:54 one a long time ago and and
01:26:59 my posts uh
01:27:02 uh the sale plates in the book of ether
01:27:04 was to come back try to help someone who
01:27:06 was kind of starting to believe it
01:27:08 because it contradicts things in the
01:27:10 Book of Mormon
01:27:11 and the fact that it’s claimed that they
01:27:14 have all these mysteries in it
01:27:17 greater than anything it kind of puts it
01:27:19 on par with this you know the sealed
01:27:21 portion and the Book of Mormon States
01:27:24 specifically they still portion there’s
01:27:26 some requirements that happens before
01:27:28 that comes out right and that has not
01:27:30 been satisfied yet right it’s not been
01:27:34 satisfied but
01:27:35 for me all I have to do is see the
01:27:39 fruits
01:27:40 of these people that are going into it
01:27:44 yeah they reject the law
01:27:47 see what they post they reject the law
01:27:50 but beyond that what do they post they
01:27:53 post mostly they post stuff that’s
01:27:55 sensational
01:27:58 yeah nothing it’s nothing about really
01:28:01 about becoming which is what the
01:28:05 what it’s all about experiencing
01:28:07 yeah or are these pretended Mysteries
01:28:10 where
01:28:12 um I
01:28:13 I have multiple verses from Book of
01:28:16 Mormon and
01:28:19 the Tanakh
01:28:21 and Taurus states that the purposes of
01:28:24 life is to keep the law
01:28:28 and help others do the same
01:28:31 and and this pretended record is not
01:28:35 doing any of that in fact
01:28:38 you go look at it it’s teaching all the
01:28:41 false doctrines of the brighamite LDS
01:28:45 church the temple Queen of Heaven Or I I
01:28:49 mean sorry heavenly mother which is
01:28:52 really the Queen of Heaven which is
01:28:53 Satan
01:28:55 and all these other things and
01:28:57 reincarnations in there too it’s all
01:29:01 these pretended Mysteries that people
01:29:03 just love instead of
01:29:06 becoming like the Messiah
01:29:09 yep characters and attributes
01:29:14 you’ve got the funny the crazy thing is
01:29:18 is what a brilliant conception because
01:29:20 you
01:29:22 to put on the character of Yeshua
01:29:24 hamasia
01:29:31 you have one you have one life put on
01:29:34 the character of Yeshua
01:29:36 yeah this is the life to prepare to meet
01:29:39 God
01:29:41 you know learning can go on from all
01:29:45 eternity
01:29:46 Gathering of knowledge can go on from
01:29:48 all eternity to all eternity but to gain
01:29:50 the character of Yeshua
01:29:54 this is the time
01:29:56 as the Book of Mormon States the spirit
01:29:58 you die with or the character attributes
01:30:01 that you die with is what you’re stuck
01:30:03 with in the resurrection
01:30:05 there is no repenting after you die
01:30:12 AKA changing your character returning to
01:30:16 the law you can’t do that after you die
01:30:22 that Spirit which possesses your that
01:30:25 Spirit which possesses you and your
01:30:27 which possesses you at the time of your
01:30:28 death will have power to possess you and
01:30:31 the life to come
01:30:32 yeah
01:30:33 that’s paraphrase yeah sure sure yeah uh
01:30:37 and I I I would look at my notes but
01:30:40 Zoom tends to kick me off
01:30:43 I’ll come in and out a couple of times
01:30:47 um but I on addition
01:30:51 if you’re not keeping the law you will
01:30:54 not get the Mysteries
01:30:56 Alma 12 9-11 right you just get them
01:31:03 any Mysteries that you get will not be
01:31:06 from God and they will not be true
01:31:08 yeah it’ll be from Satan
01:31:11 because he’ll give you something that
01:31:13 you’ll like and you’ll think is cool
01:31:16 but it won’t be the truth yep
01:31:20 you do if you want answer to your
01:31:23 prayers don’t get on your knees and pray
01:31:26 for four hours
01:31:31 have it in your heart to keep the law in
01:31:34 Yahweh will answer you
01:31:38 whereas if your heart is wickedness
01:31:41 whereas your heart is filled with
01:31:42 wickedness
01:31:44 then your prayers are an abomination
01:31:48 yeah
01:31:50 um but that is if you believe the
01:31:51 scriptures
01:31:53 because that’s what they teach in
01:31:54 multiple places
01:31:55 including the Book of Mormon
01:31:59 um
01:32:00 I I would get my notes but I’d get
01:32:02 kicked out
01:32:03 um no well I find actually
01:32:07 the people who are currently in the
01:32:09 church are more amenable to this message
01:32:11 than those who are jumping out
01:32:15 yeah I I have found the same thing
01:32:17 because a lot of these phone quote
01:32:20 people who claim that they’re awake
01:32:23 they’re actually woke
01:32:25 and they’re rebellious they’re
01:32:28 rebellious
01:32:29 they
01:32:31 they
01:32:32 rebel against Authority and when you go
01:32:35 a look at the patterns of Yahweh even
01:32:39 during this restoration he sets up
01:32:41 Authority
01:32:43 he set up Joseph Smith as a prophet and
01:32:48 then then the people voted him in as the
01:32:51 president or head Bishop of the church
01:32:55 which is the head judge which means
01:32:58 there’s an authority to tell you what is
01:33:00 right and wrong because that’s what
01:33:02 judges do
01:33:04 yep
01:33:07 um did you want to say something McKenna
01:33:12 sorry
01:33:15 no no I’m just listening
01:33:17 mm-hmm
01:33:19 so yeah that’s um
01:33:22 oh there’s something else that I’ve came
01:33:25 across
01:33:26 in uh Hebrew Matthew
01:33:29 okay it’s actually talking about
01:33:33 uh the Sabbath and that story of the um
01:33:40 apostles
01:33:42 uh picking cleaning gleaning on the
01:33:45 Sabbath
01:33:47 okay so I wanna I kind of I kind of want
01:33:50 to go into that because it’s actually
01:33:52 really cool because I think that Jesus
01:33:54 knows the law far better than any of us
01:33:57 you think I’m sorry so
01:34:02 um
01:34:03 and so I’m just trying to find it I’ve
01:34:07 got a
01:34:08 so while he’s looking I’ll just add
01:34:11 something to that that goes along with
01:34:13 the lunar Sabbath
01:34:15 um in in the history about the quail and
01:34:20 actually this is more I mean they’re
01:34:23 connected with each other but more with
01:34:24 Mana in the translation of the Manna
01:34:27 where it says it they’ll get two days
01:34:31 actually in Hebrew the there is nothing
01:34:34 that actually States two it’s just
01:34:37 plural which goes along with how uh it
01:34:42 could be two three
01:34:44 Two Three or
01:34:46 uh sorry I’m trying to do my math
01:34:50 or four days because of
01:34:52 um transition day
01:34:55 um
01:34:55 it the actual Hebrew doesn’t say two
01:35:00 it just says plural which allows for
01:35:04 transition Day and New Moon day
01:35:08 and this is where we have to be very
01:35:10 careful
01:35:11 with translations right as far as it’s
01:35:14 translated correctly
01:35:16 yeah so here we I’m gonna go it’s in 12
01:35:21 and 12 1.
01:35:24 then Yeshua on a certain Shabbat passed
01:35:28 by sode fields and this talmudin being
01:35:31 hungry took the years of brain and eight
01:35:33 then the pedroshin HOSA USA said to him
01:35:38 what is not proper to do on the Shabbat
01:35:41 so Yeshua said to them
01:35:43 have you yourselves never read see he’s
01:35:47 not putting aside the law he’s actually
01:35:49 making an argument from within the law
01:35:53 so Yeshua said unto them have you
01:35:55 yourselves never read what the we did
01:35:58 when he became hungry
01:36:00 he and those who were with him that he
01:36:03 entered into the house of hell and they
01:36:06 ate the set apart loaves which loaves he
01:36:08 and those who were with him were not
01:36:10 worthy to eat but were for the priests
01:36:12 alone
01:36:13 and have you yourselves never read okay
01:36:16 so that’s the first example
01:36:19 that he that he cites as to why it is
01:36:22 not breaking the Sabbath for the
01:36:24 apostles to have this bread here is the
01:36:26 second example
01:36:30 and have you yourselves never read in
01:36:32 the law that the priests at times break
01:36:36 the Shabbat hook in the sanctuary with
01:36:39 no iniquity
01:36:44 truth I say unto you that he who is here
01:36:47 he is greater than the sanctuary
01:36:53 his priests were in his presence serving
01:36:58 him
01:37:00 therefore
01:37:03 they were not breaking the Sabbath is
01:37:06 what he is saying
01:37:09 they are in his presence
01:37:12 serving him therefore there is no
01:37:14 iniquity or guilt
01:37:20 and if you consider what I want to say
01:37:22 I desire steadfast love
01:37:26 more than offering
01:37:28 you yourselves would not at any time
01:37:30 have punished the Arid ones
01:37:33 for the son of eloah
01:37:35 is Adon also of the Shabbat
01:37:43 because they were his priests these
01:37:45 already consecrated them
01:37:48 and they’re in his service
01:37:50 what they are doing is not a violation
01:37:54 of the Sabbath day or they can break
01:37:57 there it is not iniquity for them to do
01:38:00 what they are doing
01:38:03 well
01:38:05 um one thing I will add is that leaning
01:38:10 on the Sabbath or or any day to be
01:38:13 specific is not breaking the law no of
01:38:17 course
01:38:19 um but I do think what Yeshua was going
01:38:22 off of
01:38:24 is
01:38:25 I I think another way to put it in
01:38:27 another example or another
01:38:30 history in the New Testament and he says
01:38:32 you know
01:38:34 the ox and the mire right yeah
01:38:37 uh the ox fell in in the ditch and you
01:38:41 would go you wouldn’t took care of it
01:38:44 right and that’s not breaking the law
01:38:47 and nor was gleaning
01:38:50 of the wheat
01:38:52 was breaking the law because that’s what
01:38:55 the poor had to do in order
01:39:03 yeah
01:39:05 they were doing they were harvesting
01:39:08 they were gleaning which is this taking
01:39:10 a little bit for them
01:39:13 to eat right then but I think fine I
01:39:17 think it’s telling though what it is
01:39:19 that he actually uses in this instance
01:39:24 because his actual it
01:39:27 in another instance he said he uses it
01:39:30 is lawful to do good on the Sabbath
01:39:33 that’s the one with the ox and the liar
01:39:37 which is actually just a little later on
01:39:40 in the same chapter I think
01:39:43 it could be but I I think
01:39:46 um also he he healed on the Sabbath
01:39:48 right just even just before that the the
01:39:51 withered hand if I remember correctly
01:39:54 yes that’s yes this is the exam
01:39:58 example
01:40:02 how he was actually not breaking the law
01:40:04 of a Sabbath by doing so
01:40:06 um because
01:40:08 it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath
01:40:11 um
01:40:13 so I I wonder uh and this is one thing I
01:40:16 haven’t completely figured out yet but
01:40:20 um I do believe that David was a
01:40:24 Melchizedek priest
01:40:26 right yes
01:40:28 um and we and we go through examples he
01:40:30 did things that
01:40:32 uh wouldn’t make sense otherwise but I
01:40:35 mean anyways and so I think the reason
01:40:38 why he is kind of bringing that out
01:40:42 um is more how his disciples
01:40:45 are disciples under the Melchizedek
01:40:48 priesthood
01:40:49 yes
01:40:50 yes David is a type
01:40:53 yes so that’s why the first example
01:40:57 this is a higher
01:40:58 but basically kind of the higher
01:41:01 authority there’s a higher authority
01:41:03 here
01:41:06 everybody’s highlighting here yeah
01:41:08 because the so this can get a little
01:41:12 confusing there’s a high priest of the
01:41:14 aaronic priesthood which there’s a uh
01:41:17 there’s a high priest of the aaronic
01:41:19 priesthood per City
01:41:21 which can get confusing but Alma 30 kind
01:41:24 of brings us out a little bit when you
01:41:25 get into those details
01:41:27 um but there’s there’s multiple High
01:41:30 Priests of the aaronic priesthood not
01:41:33 just one and it’s you know locally
01:41:35 uh and then there’s a high priest of the
01:41:38 Melchizedek priesthood also and so that
01:41:40 that I it can be confusing at least in
01:41:44 English it’s the same title right and
01:41:46 this could be a translation issue
01:41:49 um and I’m not I haven’t dug into that
01:41:51 detail too much but
01:41:55 um
01:41:56 the apostles and
01:41:59 are under the Melchizedek priesthood and
01:42:02 not the erotic priesthood right right
01:42:06 hey Darren how you guys doing sorry I’m
01:42:09 a little late
01:42:11 it’s all good it’s all good you want us
01:42:14 to bless some Sacrament for you we can
01:42:16 do that
01:42:18 are you guys already partaking
01:42:20 we have already partaken I’m good for it
01:42:23 now thank you though okay we yeah we
01:42:27 don’t let me uh recap catch you up where
01:42:31 we’ve been
01:42:32 we were in the Hebrew map we were in a
01:42:35 Hebrew a translation from an
01:42:37 authenticated Hebrew script of Matthew
01:42:39 the Gospel of Matthew reading from The
01:42:41 Sermon on the Mount
01:42:43 comparing it to uh the King James
01:42:46 version and the Joseph Smith translation
01:42:50 there’s a really cool really cool
01:42:51 exercise
01:42:54 as if as the Hebrew really brings a lot
01:42:57 of clarity to the gospel
01:43:00 so because
01:43:02 but let me ask you this was Jesus born
01:43:04 to a Hebrew woman or not
01:43:08 was he born to a Hebrew or a Greek woman
01:43:12 it was great and I’m not sure if it’s
01:43:14 here
01:43:15 Mary Mary I think what Ben’s trying to
01:43:19 bring out yeshua’s mother was Hebrew not
01:43:22 a Greek I that’s actually what I meant
01:43:24 to say not Greek anyway sorry yeah yeah
01:43:28 Peter James and John Hebrews
01:43:33 the Hebrews
01:43:35 that’s right so what would be the actual
01:43:39 um original language of the Gospels
01:43:43 Hebrew
01:43:45 so when we go back to the Hebrew of
01:43:47 course we gain much more understanding
01:43:50 makes sense
01:43:54 even with the Greek translations
01:43:58 um you if you know what to look for
01:44:01 you’ll still see hebrewisms in it
01:44:04 but it it’s not as clear if you go look
01:44:08 at the the Hebrew manuscripts right
01:44:12 um
01:44:16 right
01:44:17 and so that’s what that’s what we were
01:44:20 doing we were going through the Hebrew
01:44:22 and uh
01:44:25 I’ll tell you what
01:44:27 there are some things that are really
01:44:29 clear when it they’re stated really
01:44:31 clearly
01:44:37 in the Hebrew Matthew
01:44:40 that have caused a lot of confusion for
01:44:42 a lot of people
01:44:45 and I’m going and I’m going to go ahead
01:44:47 and uh hit the highlight
01:44:51 the thing that I the thing that really
01:44:55 was just the strongest testimony to me
01:44:58 because it’s the words of Yeshua
01:45:00 mashiach
01:45:01 and so this is or Jesus the Messiah
01:45:06 moreover Yeshua mashiach said to his
01:45:09 talmudin do not think I came to throw
01:45:12 down the Torah and the prophets on the
01:45:15 contrary
01:45:17 I came to confirm
01:45:20 nothing about ending
01:45:22 all about confirming
01:45:27 I say unto you in truth or restoring yes
01:45:32 I say unto you in truth that not one
01:45:36 word will be diminished from the Quran
01:45:39 that it would not be performed until the
01:45:43 end of the world
01:45:49 so just so much of that uh
01:45:52 can I ask you Darren a question real
01:45:55 quick okay
01:45:56 how much clearer is that
01:45:59 than what we have than than the King
01:46:01 James version
01:46:03 oh that’s a much clearer
01:46:06 this is unarguable uncontestable
01:46:10 the Torah the Torah is still in effect
01:46:16 it is
01:46:18 it is the law of God
01:46:21 that has been on Earth
01:46:23 since Adam
01:46:25 and has been
01:46:27 and will be until the end of the world
01:46:31 well it’s the law of Heaven too I would
01:46:34 say but
01:46:36 um well what we have what we have in the
01:46:38 scriptures in the scriptures for sure is
01:46:41 that it is the law of God two of men it
01:46:44 is definitely the law of God to Men on
01:46:45 Earth
01:46:49 to go along with that in the Greek
01:46:52 version that gets translated to fulfill
01:46:55 that the Greek word behind that is play
01:46:57 Rue I’m sure I’m saying that wrong but
01:47:00 anyways
01:47:02 um but when you go look at the Greek
01:47:04 dictionary that means to fully preach
01:47:08 which goes along with this
01:47:11 um English translation of the Hebrew
01:47:13 right
01:47:16 um
01:47:17 he’s not exactly the same but it’s the
01:47:19 same intent of it confirming it teaching
01:47:23 it keeping it
01:47:25 right
01:47:28 do you mind if I do you mind if I also
01:47:30 read you some read you the Beatitudes
01:47:32 Darren
01:47:34 please
01:47:38 Yeshua mashiach
01:47:40 regarded the people who were coming up
01:47:42 the mountain up to the mountain and when
01:47:45 he had set himself down is Del Nadim
01:47:48 Drew near through unto him
01:47:50 he opened his mouth and taught them
01:47:52 saying blessed are the humble ones of
01:47:56 spirit
01:47:58 how clear is that
01:48:00 humble ones of spirit
01:48:03 for theirs is the kingdom of Yahweh
01:48:06 blessed are the Weeping ones
01:48:09 For unto them Comfort will reach
01:48:12 blessed are the resting ones and when he
01:48:15 talks about resting ones the Hebrew word
01:48:17 for that is translated resting ones
01:48:20 those resting in Torah
01:48:26 what is all also what is the Hebrew word
01:48:29 for rest
01:48:32 Shabbat
01:48:34 Shabbat blessed are those who are
01:48:37 keeping his divine
01:48:41 for they will inherit the earth
01:48:43 blessed are the ones hungry and thirsty
01:48:45 for righteousness
01:48:47 a little bit there’s three sabbats
01:48:50 there’s the weekly moonly
01:48:54 and annually
01:48:56 so the weekly one everybody knows about
01:48:58 they just may not know what it is
01:49:02 um the moonly one very few know about
01:49:06 as in New Moon day is a Sabbath and then
01:49:10 the annual ones some people know about
01:49:13 but then fight against them as the
01:49:16 annual High holidays like Passover
01:49:20 um yeah those are annual sabbaths yeah
01:49:25 so blessed are the resting ones for they
01:49:28 will inherit the earth
01:49:30 blessed are the ones hungry and thirsty
01:49:33 for righteousness
01:49:36 you know Ben I know I’m interjecting
01:49:39 again
01:49:40 but
01:49:41 this
01:49:46 the resting ones are the ones that have
01:49:48 it the Earth really
01:49:51 to me right now brings into play how I
01:49:54 you know talk about the the ten virgins
01:49:56 the the five wise ones are the ones that
01:49:59 are worshiping Yahweh the correct way
01:50:02 yes
01:50:03 that to me just right there when you
01:50:06 just said that again
01:50:09 that hit me hard
01:50:10 but anyways
01:50:13 blessed are the ones hungry and thirsty
01:50:15 for righteousness for they will be
01:50:18 satisfied and will become satisfied once
01:50:23 well that’s different
01:50:25 and you know what says you know what
01:50:27 satisfies
01:50:29 the word according to the Joseph Smith
01:50:31 translation
01:50:33 the gift of the Holy Ghost
01:50:35 baptism of fire in the Holy Ghost yeah
01:50:38 that is what satisfies
01:50:41 and there’s a difference between status
01:50:43 being satisfied and still wanting more
01:50:46 and so go you go back to the table
01:50:48 and just having and just having this
01:50:52 insatiable curiosity for new things
01:50:55 you know what I’m saying there’s a
01:50:57 difference there oh yeah so on that
01:51:01 point
01:51:01 um you know how the word of wisdom says
01:51:03 eat meat sparingly all the time
01:51:08 the meat is the Mysteries
01:51:12 so we’re supposed to look in the
01:51:13 Mysteries but sparingly where most
01:51:16 people
01:51:18 they
01:51:19 thrive in their pretended Mysteries
01:51:22 instead of going to the milk which is
01:51:24 the Commandments
01:51:27 but
01:51:30 that’s great I hadn’t thought of it that
01:51:33 way that’s really cool
01:51:35 bless and so blessed are the
01:51:39 compassionate ones not just the merciful
01:51:42 the compassionate ones
01:51:45 for they shall receive compassion
01:51:48 for they will obtain compassion
01:51:53 compassion’s more Universal than Mercy
01:51:56 yeah
01:51:58 and one thing you’ll have to watch the
01:52:00 recording but just to give a little bit
01:52:03 um that goes along with more of Moroni
01:52:06 18 about mourning with those who need to
01:52:09 mourn in Comfort
01:52:10 or yeah
01:52:13 sorry I said the wrong thing yeah mosiah
01:52:17 18 8-10
01:52:19 it looked and looked that up in relation
01:52:21 to this
01:52:23 um
01:52:24 and you and you’ll see and I think
01:52:26 you’ll start to see some wonderful
01:52:27 wonderful things here how
01:52:30 when we are baptized
01:52:33 we’re covenanting to stand in for the
01:52:35 Savior and make these promises come true
01:52:42 which actually one thing we’ve talked
01:52:44 about before goes along with uh taking
01:52:46 his name upon us right but
01:52:49 we stand in and make good the promise
01:53:07 so um along with that you know Yeshua in
01:53:11 his atonement part of it was so that he
01:53:14 could learn how to sucker us right
01:53:18 and
01:53:21 that’s a lot what
01:53:24 comforting those who need and comfort is
01:53:27 doing it’s
01:53:29 it’s being there with them
01:53:33 and then helping them if you’re not
01:53:35 first there for them they’re not going
01:53:39 to want to listen to you
01:53:44 um if you don’t take on the burden to
01:53:46 try to understand where they’re coming
01:53:47 from
01:53:50 they’re not going to want to listen
01:53:58 blessed are the pure ones of heart
01:54:01 for they shall see Yahweh
01:54:09 what do you think that means to be pure
01:54:10 a pure one part
01:54:16 say it again a pure one heart a pure one
01:54:19 of heart blessed are the pure one of
01:54:23 pure one of heart
01:54:25 for they will see the way
01:54:31 I think it’s broken heart and contrite
01:54:33 spirit
01:54:34 that and how and our broken heart and
01:54:38 contrite spirits
01:54:40 is found in obedience
01:54:42 yeah
01:54:44 it’s found in obedience because what is
01:54:47 the Broken Heart
01:54:49 the broken heart is the heart trained to
01:54:51 obedience or in other words
01:54:55 the heart upon which
01:54:57 God’s law
01:54:59 is written
01:55:01 just to help out with that I do like
01:55:03 been the thing about the broken horse a
01:55:07 broken horse is one that will listen and
01:55:09 obey
01:55:10 all right yeah
01:55:13 and the other and the con and the
01:55:16 contrite heart
01:55:19 is the heart that is penitent for sin
01:55:22 and how do we know sin
01:55:24 how do we know what sin is
01:55:28 according to pause by the law
01:55:33 yeah
01:55:35 by the law
01:55:37 without no law without the law there is
01:55:40 no broken heart and contrite spirit
01:55:50 in fact Nephi takes it a little farther
01:55:54 let’s go to Second Nephi chapter two
01:55:58 uh yeah
01:56:00 um maybe we can go to the 1828
01:56:02 dictionary and read uh the definition of
01:56:05 contrite and then go do that if that’s
01:56:06 all right
01:56:08 okay well yeah sure we can do that yeah
01:56:13 but uh if somebody if somebody oh okay
01:56:17 what what do you say secondly by what
01:56:20 second Nephi 2.
01:56:26 okay
01:56:28 so
01:56:30 I’m going to start well uh somebody
01:56:33 needs to
01:56:35 can someone get the country and and read
01:56:37 it
01:56:38 um I found it I I would but I’m disabled
01:56:41 on my phone Zach do you have contrite
01:56:43 yeah I found it okay
01:56:47 it’s an adjective
01:56:49 let him to break to bruise
01:56:52 to rubberware see try it literally worn
01:56:55 or bruised hence brokenhearted to force
01:56:59 him
01:57:00 deeply affected with grief and sorrow
01:57:02 for having offended God
01:57:04 humble penitent as a contract Center
01:57:09 okay
01:57:12 um
01:57:15 we’ll repeat that when Darren comes back
01:57:17 okay can you read that definition I can
01:57:19 try it one more time
01:57:21 sure
01:57:23 literally literally worn or bruised
01:57:27 hence brokenhearted for sin
01:57:30 deeply affected with grief and sorrow
01:57:32 for having offended God
01:57:34 humble penitent
01:57:36 as a contract sinner
01:57:39 foreign
01:57:44 so a big thing for me on that one is
01:57:46 sorrow or
01:57:49 breaking yahweh’s ways right
01:57:54 yep
01:57:57 yep and so that and so
01:58:00 like I said before
01:58:02 prior no broke no law
01:58:06 we don’t know we always waste we can’t
01:58:08 feel sorrow for breaking his place
01:58:11 we can’t have a contrite spirit
01:58:16 no obedience
01:58:19 to that law we can’t have a broken heart
01:58:28 because we have not our heart is not
01:58:30 trained to obedience
01:58:32 but Nephi carries it a step further
01:58:35 [Music]
01:58:37 right okay Lehigh since I keep getting
01:58:40 corrected by my brother over there the
01:58:44 the
01:58:47 peanut gallery in the back
01:58:49 [Laughter]
01:58:54 um
01:58:55 it’s uh we’ll start in second Nephi
01:58:57 chapter two but he is right second Nephi
01:59:00 2 is Lehigh not Nephi right yeah
01:59:03 thank you for joining the peanut
01:59:06 galleries even
01:59:08 uh well I’m actually I’m joining truth
01:59:12 but anyways
01:59:17 all right you’re right I stand corrected
01:59:21 it’s Lehigh who’s teaching this
01:59:26 all right
01:59:28 and we’ll start in verse five
01:59:31 and men are instructed sufficiently that
01:59:33 they may know good from Evil and the law
01:59:36 is given unto men and by the law no
01:59:38 flesh is Justified or by the law men are
01:59:41 cut off gay by the temporal law they
01:59:43 were cut off and also by the spiritual
01:59:45 law they perished from that which is
01:59:46 good and become miserable forever
01:59:48 wherefore Redemption cometh in and
01:59:50 through the holy Messiah for he is full
01:59:52 of grace and truth
01:59:55 be behold he offered himself a sacrifice
01:59:58 for sin to answer the ends of the law to
02:00:02 answer the purpose of the law
02:00:04 unto all those who have a broken heart
02:00:07 and contrite spirit
02:00:11 and to none and On To None else can the
02:00:13 ends of the law be answered in other
02:00:15 words only those who were walking in the
02:00:17 law can the ends of the law be answered
02:00:19 by the atonement
02:00:22 so Jesus returns the law from an
02:00:25 instrument of damnation to an instrument
02:00:30 of sanctification
02:00:35 by his sacrifice
02:00:41 yeah because
02:00:44 he made it he broke the bands of
02:00:47 physical and spiritual death
02:00:51 wherefore how great the importance to
02:00:55 make these things known unto the
02:00:57 inhabitants of the earth that they may
02:00:58 know that there is no flesh that can
02:01:00 dwell in the presence of God save it be
02:01:02 through the merits and mercy and Grace
02:01:04 of the Holy Messiah who layeth down his
02:01:07 life according to the Flesh and taketh
02:01:09 It Again by the power of the spirit that
02:01:11 he may bring to pass the resurrection of
02:01:13 the Dead being the first that should
02:01:15 rise
02:01:16 wherefore he is the first fruits unto
02:01:20 God
02:01:22 this is a prophecy
02:01:25 by Lehi
02:01:26 that Jesus Christ would be resurrected
02:01:29 at the Feast of first fruits
02:01:36 inasmuch as he shall make intercession
02:01:39 for all the children of men
02:01:41 and they believe in him shall be saved
02:01:43 and because of the intercession for all
02:01:45 all men come unto God wherefore they
02:01:48 stand in the presence of him to be
02:01:50 judged of him according to the truth and
02:01:52 Holiness which is in him wherefore the
02:01:54 ends of the law which the Holy One hath
02:01:56 given unto the inflicting of the
02:01:58 punishment which is affixed which
02:02:00 punishment that is affixed is in
02:02:02 opposition but that of the happiness
02:02:04 which is a fixed to answer the ends or
02:02:07 purpose of the atonement
02:02:09 for it must needs be that there is an
02:02:12 opposition in all things
02:02:15 if not so my firstborn in the wilderness
02:02:17 righteousness could not be brought to
02:02:19 pass neither wickedness neither Holiness
02:02:23 nor misery neither good nor bad
02:02:25 wherefore All Things Must needs be a
02:02:28 compound in one wherefore it if it
02:02:31 should be one body it must needs remain
02:02:34 as dead having no life neither having no
02:02:38 life neither death nor corruption nor
02:02:41 incorruption happiness nor misery either
02:02:45 sense nor insensibility
02:02:52 from that is that if there was no
02:02:55 righteousness there was no wickedness if
02:02:57 there’s no wickedness there is no
02:03:00 righteousness because they’re opposites
02:03:02 of each other
02:03:04 yeah
02:03:06 wherefore it must needs have been
02:03:08 created for a thing of not
02:03:11 there is without
02:03:13 the opposition without the law without
02:03:16 obedience without Disobedience all
02:03:18 things are or not
02:03:20 wherefore there would have been no
02:03:22 purpose in the end of its creation
02:03:24 wherefore this thing must needs destroy
02:03:27 the wisdom of God and his eternal
02:03:28 purposes and the also the power and the
02:03:31 mercy and the justice of God and if ye
02:03:34 shall say there is no law
02:03:37 ye shall also say there is no sin
02:03:42 so those people who say that the law was
02:03:45 hailed to the cross
02:03:46 they’re saying there is no sin
02:03:49 so why did the law need to be nailed to
02:03:51 the cross then
02:03:52 why did Jesus need to die if there is no
02:03:55 sin
02:03:55 well I I would say it a little different
02:03:58 but I think we mean the main thing is if
02:04:01 there is no law why do you need a savior
02:04:04 yep
02:04:06 why do we need a savior if there is no
02:04:08 law if ye shall say there is no sin he
02:04:11 shall also say there is no righteousness
02:04:14 I I will interject a little bit more on
02:04:17 because Paul did say the law
02:04:19 was nailed to the cross but he was
02:04:22 talking about the law of Moses
02:04:25 and not the Torah
02:04:27 those are two different things
02:04:30 look the law of Moses and Torah are two
02:04:32 different things
02:04:33 right because
02:04:35 I probably the best one for this one is
02:04:38 Alma 34. I I forget the verses and I’m
02:04:43 not really able to find it but um
02:04:45 but I think it’s near the end
02:04:49 there’s something to the fact that
02:04:52 that
02:04:53 this law or this type the law of Moses
02:04:58 at every width points the great and last
02:05:01 sacrifice that is the law of Moses and
02:05:04 not the law AKA Torah
02:05:07 the the Torah
02:05:09 teaches us how to be like the Messiah
02:05:14 does not point to his great and last
02:05:16 sacrifice
02:05:18 for example
02:05:20 you know I am the Lord thy God I
02:05:22 disappoint to the last sacrifice
02:05:26 um and we go through all 10 but they
02:05:27 don’t point to the great last sacrifice
02:05:29 as Alma 34 states that the law of Moses
02:05:32 does
02:05:35 so every wit of the law of Moses points
02:05:37 to the great and less sacrifice
02:05:40 um
02:05:41 if you shall say it and so if you shall
02:05:44 say there is no law you shall also say
02:05:45 there is no sin if you shall say there
02:05:47 is no sin you shall also say there is no
02:05:49 righteousness and if there be no
02:05:51 righteousness there be no happiness and
02:05:53 if there be no righteousness nor
02:05:55 happiness there be no punishment nor
02:05:57 misery and if these things are not
02:06:01 there is no God
02:06:07 no law
02:06:08 no God
02:06:11 no happiness
02:06:13 but there’s no and there is no hope
02:06:18 yeah but there is a law
02:06:20 and that law was given
02:06:24 from the fall of Adam
02:06:26 down to the present day
02:06:28 and on to the end of the world
02:06:30 I testified I testified to everybody
02:06:34 who’s listening
02:06:36 that there is a law
02:06:38 and one law was given
02:06:42 Jesus Christ restored that law
02:06:45 when he came
02:06:49 so one one thing that uh and I can also
02:06:52 agree with that and we’ll testify of
02:06:54 that
02:06:55 um one thing
02:06:57 um when Mackenzie was doing her little
02:06:59 presentation
02:07:01 um we saw
02:07:03 that
02:07:07 Nephi learned this from Isaiah and when
02:07:11 we look at the Isaiah verses which we
02:07:14 have the actual Hebrew on
02:07:16 the law
02:07:18 the word be the Hebrew word behind the
02:07:21 law is literally Torah
02:07:30 um I don’t remember what’s which Hebrew
02:07:33 I mean Isaiah chapter that is
02:07:36 um I I can put in the in the notes when
02:07:40 I put this on YouTube
02:07:41 I think it was like say a 2-3
02:07:45 that could be uh some will have to go
02:07:49 look it up because I I’m disabled right
02:07:51 now I’ve been I’m on my phone so I can’t
02:07:54 do it as things so nicely as I can on my
02:07:56 computer right now so someone would have
02:07:59 to go look that up
02:08:01 I’m looking
02:08:03 okay
02:08:07 I I do also remember it was talking
02:08:09 about Zion also which is during the
02:08:12 Millennium right
02:08:15 it brings out that what’s going to be
02:08:17 enforced there is Torah
02:08:24 is it yeah
02:08:25 and many people sell ghosts
02:08:29 Come Ye and let us go up to the mountain
02:08:32 of the Lord to the house of the god of
02:08:34 Jacob
02:08:35 and he will teach us of his ways and we
02:08:39 will walk in his paths for out of Zion
02:08:42 shall go forth the law for us
02:08:45 when we look at the Hebrew underneath
02:08:48 that word law there it’s literally Torah
02:08:53 and I I would show you on Bible Hub but
02:08:56 I really can’t right now
02:09:00 we believe it
02:09:03 that’s pretty cool though
02:09:05 yeah
02:09:07 yeah so so the so the thing is
02:09:12 is that as is that we learn to is that
02:09:16 that we learn to obey
02:09:19 and more light and knowledge and and
02:09:22 greater things are open to our view
02:09:25 as we obey the word of the Lord
02:09:28 as given to us
02:09:30 more things are open to our view
02:09:37 so the Lord
02:09:39 gives
02:09:41 to those who appreciate the gift
02:09:46 and Torah
02:09:47 is a gift
02:09:53 yes
02:10:01 no Darren what do you have Daryl Darren
02:10:04 what do you got Matt was actually just
02:10:06 checking on one of one of the boys no
02:10:08 problem so the Books of Moses the law of
02:10:12 Moses the first four books uh are
02:10:17 different than the Torah you were saying
02:10:19 no the first five Torah is revealed for
02:10:23 five books the most it is
02:10:26 but the law of Moses is not all it is
02:10:31 not all that’s in there
02:10:33 yeah so a lot of Moses is the sacrifices
02:10:37 and offerings of that were occurred
02:10:41 daily weekly and monthly or sin for the
02:10:45 people and were performed by Levites
02:10:48 yeah so law of Moses so um mosiah 13 is
02:10:53 my favorite verse on this
02:10:55 um you want to go look it up and it has
02:10:58 day to day in it
02:11:00 um it’s just yeah yeah I got disabled
02:11:03 here
02:11:04 I’ve got it I got it I got it again oh
02:11:07 okay okay
02:11:10 uh and I’m going to start wearing I’m
02:11:13 gonna start uh
02:11:17 what
02:11:21 I know Ben likes 12 but they mosiah I
02:11:27 actually like 12 I like 12 and 13. I
02:11:30 love 13 because it it really gets
02:11:33 specific as to what the law of Moses is
02:11:34 but I like 12 because without 12 and 13
02:11:39 together you don’t have the completion
02:11:42 of the idea that the law of Moses is
02:11:45 separate from Torah
02:11:51 how I woke up to this portion uh Messiah
02:11:54 13 was a big deal for me the 12 came for
02:11:57 me later
02:11:58 but I I do agree with what Ben is saying
02:12:00 as just for me the 13 is uh more
02:12:04 important but yeah but for understanding
02:12:07 what the law of Moses is definitely
02:12:08 right right
02:12:10 um which has helped
02:12:13 for me resolve a lot of controversial
02:12:17 statements in a lot of places and and it
02:12:19 goes into Daniel 9 also but anyways let
02:12:23 me uh let me read let me read the verses
02:12:26 that actually describe the law of Moses
02:12:28 I’m going to start in verse 27.
02:12:31 and now you have said that salvation
02:12:33 cometh by the law of Moses I say unto
02:12:36 you that it is expedient that you should
02:12:37 keep the law of Moses says yet but I say
02:12:40 unto you that the time shall come when
02:12:43 it shall no more be expedient to keep
02:12:45 the law of Moses
02:12:46 and moreover I say unto you that
02:12:48 salvation does not come by the law alone
02:12:50 and for it not for the atonement you see
02:12:53 here he is talking about what what
02:12:56 changes the law from damn an instrument
02:12:58 of damnation to an instrument of uh
02:13:00 sanctification for it not for the
02:13:02 atonement which God himself should make
02:13:04 for the sins and iniquities of his
02:13:06 people that they must unavoidably perish
02:13:08 notwithstanding the law of Moses and now
02:13:11 I say unto you that it was expedient
02:13:14 that there should be a law given under
02:13:16 the children of Israel now he’s going to
02:13:17 go into defining the law of hosts okay
02:13:20 you with me there
02:13:23 that there should be a law given under
02:13:26 the children of Israel yeah even a very
02:13:28 strict law for they were a stiff-necked
02:13:31 peoples quick to do iniquity and slow to
02:13:33 remember the Lord their God therefore
02:13:34 there was a law given them gay a law of
02:13:37 performances or ceremonies
02:13:42 and ordinances
02:13:45 ceremonies and ordinances a law which
02:13:49 they were to observe strictly from day
02:13:51 to day
02:13:52 to keep them in the remembrance and that
02:13:55 word right there is really important
02:13:56 those words day to day because it shows
02:13:59 that this these
02:14:01 ceremonies and ordinances were done
02:14:04 daily
02:14:06 right uh which I’m just going to
02:14:08 interject a little bit there’s three
02:14:11 chapters in the first five books of
02:14:14 Moses that defines these and for a
02:14:18 starting point I uh you’d have to double
02:14:21 check but I think it’s number
02:14:23 numbers 28
02:14:26 where it actually States day by day if
02:14:30 I’m going off fake memory but in mosiah
02:14:33 13 it says day two day which that’s just
02:14:36 a translation issue right it’s speaking
02:14:39 the same thing and it’s primarily
02:14:42 the killing of two Lambs every day that
02:14:47 the aaronic priesthood did
02:14:48 that’s the law of Moses
02:14:58 I I don’t hear anybody so hopefully I’m
02:15:02 actually looking in first okay
02:15:06 yeah I I think it’s 28.
02:15:10 um it says day
02:15:13 uh two day or day by day now I’m okay
02:15:16 I’m forgetting which one it is
02:15:18 this is the offering made by fire which
02:15:21 he shall offer unto the Lord 28 3
02:15:24 of numbers 28. two lambs of the first
02:15:28 year without spot day by day
02:15:32 yeah this is the law of Moses
02:15:35 which Isaiah 13 we just read day today
02:15:42 this is what he’s talking about
02:15:46 do you see this any significance in two
02:15:49 Lambs as they offering
02:15:53 um
02:15:54 yes and it goes on what was going on
02:15:58 what Yeshua went through during his last
02:16:01 hours at the various points that these
02:16:04 Lambs are given and the things that
02:16:06 happened to them uh correlate with the
02:16:08 events that
02:16:10 um the evil Sadducees and Pharisees did
02:16:14 to Yeshua
02:16:16 so the lamb that is offered in the
02:16:18 morning
02:16:20 is symbolic
02:16:23 of
02:16:25 is symbolic I do believe it points to
02:16:29 when Christ was either crucified or
02:16:32 brought for mock trial
02:16:35 uh it’d be the
02:16:38 um
02:16:38 more of the mock later mock trial so on
02:16:43 this there’s a lot of parts to this so
02:16:46 there’s a the part of the
02:16:49 the burnt offering the wood stuff
02:16:52 um actually when Yeshua talked about the
02:16:55 thief of the night
02:16:57 coming it’s showing that the aaronic
02:17:01 priesthood was not keeping the fire
02:17:03 going at night which is the wood burning
02:17:06 which is actually when
02:17:11 um the priest came to get Yeshua the the
02:17:13 or not the priest the temple guards that
02:17:16 was at midnight okay yeah
02:17:18 yeah that’s right and
02:17:22 fire has to do with judgment and that’s
02:17:24 when they actually really started that
02:17:26 judgment
02:17:28 and so yeah and it also goes along with
02:17:31 how
02:17:33 you know
02:17:35 cursing happened at midnight during
02:17:38 Passover
02:17:40 um
02:17:42 and so there’s a lot to this that gets
02:17:45 really deep
02:17:46 but
02:17:48 um but there were two Lambs one in the
02:17:51 morning
02:17:53 for when false judgment is passed
02:17:55 one in the evening for win the lamb dies
02:18:03 yeah the the the evening lab is much
02:18:07 easier to connect and when Yeshua died
02:18:11 was the
02:18:13 between the evenings
02:18:15 is actually when the evening lamb died
02:18:20 it’s when the evening lamb was offered
02:18:26 very
02:18:29 and so you see the law of Moses every
02:18:32 bit of it points back to the sacrifice
02:18:36 of our Savior Jesus Christ the Great and
02:18:39 the last sacrifice uh Alma 34 I forget
02:18:43 the chapter but you could probably
02:18:45 search for wit if you go on the
02:18:48 Whit and go find the the those two or
02:18:52 three verses that I like that it
02:18:54 basically states that every wit
02:18:57 of the law of Moses and I’m paraphrasing
02:19:00 the exact words
02:19:02 points to that great and last sacrifice
02:19:06 and it does
02:19:09 I haven’t figured out every single point
02:19:11 yet
02:19:12 but I’ve
02:19:13 even to the point where mosiah I mean
02:19:16 sorry numbers 28 talks about the wine
02:19:20 offering
02:19:21 I mean even that could be interesting
02:19:24 with word of wisdom but anyways I won’t
02:19:25 go there oh yeah Alma 34 Alma 34 14.
02:19:29 okay but I
02:19:32 numbers 28 talks about how he is there’s
02:19:38 a wine offering that’s required and
02:19:40 Yeshua drink vinegar which is wine
02:19:43 vinegar is wine despite what bergamites
02:19:47 will tell you
02:19:50 oh really yeah that’s how you get
02:19:52 vinegar it’s from wine go go go do your
02:19:56 favorite internet search that’s where
02:19:58 vinegar comes from it’s from wine
02:20:00 yeah
02:20:02 yeah it’s it’s basically wine that’s uh
02:20:08 yeah
02:20:09 that’s gone over it’s it’s gone over its
02:20:12 expiration date
02:20:14 okay
02:20:15 [Laughter]
02:20:18 the stomach is actually from wine too
02:20:21 but anyways there’s
02:20:25 bread is alcoholic but we won’t go into
02:20:27 there we’re sidetracking but
02:20:30 um
02:20:31 also
02:20:33 um I forget which one because there’s
02:20:36 there’s three main chapters about the
02:20:39 law of Moses in the first five books
02:20:42 um and I
02:20:45 one of them
02:20:47 um
02:20:48 talks about how
02:20:50 the altar so
02:20:55 part of preparing for the law of Moses
02:20:59 is how you bring
02:21:06 it is
02:21:07 and you spread all the blood I’m going
02:21:12 off a vague memory here and so we’ll
02:21:14 have to look at it at another time I
02:21:16 just I’m disabled because I’m on my
02:21:18 phone right now
02:21:19 um
02:21:20 yeah I have no power I’m doing this on
02:21:23 my phone
02:21:24 um
02:21:25 but part of preparing the altar
02:21:29 is spreading
02:21:32 all the blood from the ox onto it
02:21:36 what did Joshua go through just before
02:21:41 he was
02:21:43 offered
02:21:45 he bled from every pore
02:21:50 just as the law brings out
02:21:53 do you think there might be some uh some
02:21:56 symbolism between the first lamb being
02:21:59 the that part of the atonement where
02:22:02 he’s living from every poor no and
02:22:05 that’s why maybe I wasn’t making it
02:22:07 clear enough before
02:22:09 the altar which Yeshua is an altar to
02:22:13 prepare the altar
02:22:15 um
02:22:16 an Oxblood
02:22:18 is killed and all the blood is put on
02:22:22 that and I
02:22:23 that preparing is what happened in the
02:22:27 garden in fact that preparing when you
02:22:29 get into it has to happen before that
02:22:32 offering is done I believe it’s seven
02:22:35 days but I’m vague memory on that and
02:22:38 that prayer when he bred or bled from
02:22:42 every pour was the day before
02:22:45 as
02:22:46 the Bible and the Book of Mormon
02:22:48 actually states that the day starts in
02:22:51 the morning
02:22:52 and that preparation of the altar Yeshua
02:22:57 was done before
02:22:59 it can’t be done on the same day
02:23:02 according to the wall okay and so the
02:23:06 the the the the lab on what I would call
02:23:11 between the mornings uh points to Yeshua
02:23:14 a different way
02:23:16 um then what I’m bringing out here but
02:23:18 it’s the preparing the Altar and and
02:23:21 covering with the blood is
02:23:23 points to Yeshua praying in the garden
02:23:26 and be bleeding from every poor while he
02:23:29 was in the garden
02:23:31 because that was actually done the day
02:23:33 before just as preparing the altar
02:23:37 has to be done before
02:23:40 the altar can be used for the wall Moses
02:23:45 no I think it has to be seven days but
02:23:47 anyways
02:23:50 well I think
02:23:53 the if I remember correctly the morning
02:23:56 lamb is also I mean it’s
02:24:02 it’s also about the uh offenses of the
02:24:07 people against Yeshua
02:24:10 and so therefore it is pointing directly
02:24:14 to
02:24:15 their mockery
02:24:18 of their their mockery of his law in
02:24:21 condemning him to death
02:24:26 huh
02:24:30 don’t don’t necessarily quote me on that
02:24:33 but I do say but I do think that I can
02:24:35 see some correlations yeah it seems like
02:24:38 it’s time wise in terms of time wise
02:24:40 with the sacrifice and the sacrifice I
02:24:43 can see some correlations
02:24:47 yeah well they’re
02:24:50 um he went through a you know with
02:24:52 Pilate
02:24:53 and whatnot and
02:24:56 um this is one part I need to get more
02:24:58 into
02:24:59 um I’m a little weak on this part on it
02:25:01 but
02:25:03 he was being judged multiple times and
02:25:06 these Lambs are being judged
02:25:09 um just before the sacrifice
02:25:11 um but anyways
02:25:12 um the morning portion I I need to
02:25:15 figure out a little bit more I don’t
02:25:17 feel prepared enough on that part yet
02:25:20 yeah that’s right
02:25:21 so I I just I just think that I I I I I
02:25:25 I
02:25:25 just think that’s an interesting
02:25:27 hypothesis to start from at least
02:25:30 um right right just do the timing day
02:25:34 time of day time of day
02:25:37 right
02:25:38 um but going back to Alma 34 it does
02:25:41 bring out how
02:25:43 whatever you think the law of Moses is
02:25:46 it points to every wit of that last and
02:25:48 great sacrifice the
02:25:53 Eternal law Torah doesn’t do that the
02:25:55 Torah teaches us how to become like the
02:25:58 Messiah it doesn’t point to his
02:26:02 um sacrifice to save us
02:26:08 so this is this might be
02:26:12 um a good point to read that Alma’s 34
02:26:15 Verse
02:26:17 okay thank you uh yeah we’ll let me let
02:26:21 me get right back to it Aaron I can read
02:26:24 it what verse is it
02:26:26 we’ll start in
02:26:29 34 Verse 12.
02:26:32 and I’ll go and I’ll go through 15.
02:26:36 well I think Darren said he would read
02:26:38 it
02:26:40 you want to read it Darren
02:26:42 okay but the law requireeth the life of
02:26:46 him who act murdered therefore there can
02:26:48 be nothing which is short of an infinite
02:26:51 atonement which will suffice for the
02:26:53 sins of the world
02:26:55 13. therefore it is expedient that there
02:26:58 should be a great and last sacrifice and
02:27:01 then shall there be or it is expedient
02:27:03 there should be a stop to the shedding
02:27:06 of blood then shall Allah of Moses be
02:27:09 fulfilled yea it shall be all fulfilled
02:27:12 every jot and till and None Shall have
02:27:16 passed away
02:27:17 14 and behold this is the whole meaning
02:27:20 of the law every wit pointing to that
02:27:22 great and last sacrifice and that great
02:27:25 and last sacrifice will be the Son of
02:27:27 God yay infinite and eternal
02:27:31 and thus he shall bring Salvation to All
02:27:34 Those Who Shall Believe on his name this
02:27:37 being the intent of this last sacrifice
02:27:39 to bring about the bowels of Mercy which
02:27:42 will report Justice and bring about
02:27:44 bringeth about needs unto men that they
02:27:47 may have faith unto repentance
02:27:51 that’s great
02:27:54 and so you see on every wit of the law
02:27:58 of Moses
02:27:59 points directly to the sacrifice
02:28:02 it’s not about how we can become like it
02:28:05 it’s about
02:28:06 how do we it’s all pointing directly to
02:28:09 the actual sacrifice
02:28:11 how to recognize him in fact um
02:28:18 the law of Moses was given when the
02:28:22 Israelites broke the law
02:28:25 and
02:28:27 so to help them know
02:28:31 where salvation actually comes from they
02:28:34 were given something
02:28:38 so that way when it actually happened
02:28:40 they could see it
02:28:42 they could recognize it after it happens
02:28:44 to bring them to him
02:28:51 yeah and because every wit points to
02:28:54 that
02:28:56 and because of his sacrifice the law no
02:29:00 longer damns those who follow it
02:29:03 but is the means but it’s the means
02:29:06 given by God
02:29:08 by which we sanctify ourselves
02:29:12 from the Doctrine and Covenants
02:29:16 so when John the Baptist said Behold the
02:29:19 Lamb of God
02:29:20 he was not talking about the Passover
02:29:23 Lamb he was talking about the law of
02:29:26 Moses lab
02:29:27 and to support that when Paul talks
02:29:31 about it in in Hebrews well I mean I
02:29:33 know there’s debate who wrote Hebrews
02:29:35 but whoever wrote Hebrews
02:29:37 brings out how a priest had to do that
02:29:41 sacrifice
02:29:42 law of Moses required an erotic priest
02:29:46 or when you believe in the restoration
02:29:49 of scriptures
02:29:52 the Melchizedek priest can do everything
02:29:55 that erotic priests can do and Yeshua
02:29:57 was not an erotic priest he was the line
02:30:00 of Judah not Levi or Aaron right the sub
02:30:04 of Levi
02:30:06 um
02:30:09 and the the book of Hebrews author
02:30:12 brings out how that sacrifice needed a
02:30:15 priest
02:30:17 so that’s not Passover because the
02:30:20 Passover Lamb was killed by the head of
02:30:22 the households which were not priests
02:30:33 the Lamb of God is the lamb from the law
02:30:37 of Moses
02:30:38 the great and last
02:30:46 so
02:30:48 anyways
02:30:51 any questions Darren
02:30:53 no it’s good stuff though
02:31:04 so I I we got a little sidetracked but
02:31:07 while we’re
02:31:09 um
02:31:10 talking about the Sabbath thing one
02:31:12 thing I I remembered that I wanted to
02:31:15 say if you’re done with this bin if not
02:31:19 no it was just just was going through a
02:31:21 recap of kind of what we had
02:31:24 talked about before we got into the set
02:31:26 oh no no that’s fine I I’m and we did a
02:31:29 little more than just a recap but that’s
02:31:30 fine um I I just want to make sure you
02:31:33 were done before I I said this
02:31:35 um and it when we were talking about
02:31:38 um you know the apostles and David and
02:31:41 whatnot it it reminded me
02:31:44 how one time some of us after fellowship
02:31:47 and scripture study were talking just
02:31:49 about priesthood in general and how
02:31:52 we kind of came together on
02:31:56 how
02:31:58 why the Melchizedek priesthood is given
02:32:00 by The Voice
02:32:02 available him which I have on my
02:32:04 priesthood Resource page shows that
02:32:07 um and how the erotic priesthood is
02:32:10 given by The Landing out of hands
02:32:12 where the the thing that we kind of came
02:32:16 to together is that the milk priesthood
02:32:18 is actually is the voice of Yahweh and
02:32:22 that’s why it’s given by a voice
02:32:25 where the aaronic priesthood are the
02:32:27 hands or the doers
02:32:29 of the priesthood and that’s why it’s
02:32:31 been given by the hands because the
02:32:32 hands represent the things that you do
02:32:34 right
02:32:37 um because I actually do believe
02:32:40 that
02:32:43 so the LDS Church
02:32:46 um changed who got the aaronic
02:32:48 priesthood in around 1920 before 1920
02:32:53 give or take I don’t remember the exact
02:32:55 year the priesthood was given to adult
02:32:59 men the erotic priesthood the reason
02:33:03 they changed it because other churches
02:33:05 were giving
02:33:07 teenagers involved in the church more
02:33:10 and so their answer was without prayer
02:33:13 or Revelation to change the aaronic
02:33:16 priesthood to
02:33:19 teenagers and when we read what is it uh
02:33:23 DNC 20 I think about the duties of
02:33:28 the different offices in the erotic
02:33:31 priesthood that does not fit teenagers
02:33:34 yeah
02:33:35 it does not in
02:33:37 that lesson that has the experience
02:33:41 they’re supposed to keep the church in
02:33:45 line
02:33:46 um I I mean
02:33:48 if Ben wants to look at the verses
02:33:51 um we could go read them but those are
02:33:55 and to some extent that’s almost like
02:33:57 police officers
02:33:59 yeah which is what I actually think
02:34:01 police officers are actually based off
02:34:04 of the
02:34:05 levitical priesthood
02:34:09 let me
02:34:10 see if I can find those who see what I
02:34:14 can find here
02:34:16 as if they’re out
02:34:19 and about making sure people are doing
02:34:21 what they’re supposed to they’re kind of
02:34:23 being the hands
02:34:25 making sure everything is being done
02:34:27 correctly were the Melchizedek
02:34:31 actually is where Revelation really
02:34:34 happens
02:34:36 um and they’re speaking God’s will
02:34:40 there is a voice
02:34:42 uh and so I’m trying to get to
02:34:45 and maybe I’m not doing a good job at it
02:34:47 but I’m trying to show why the
02:34:49 Melchizedek is given by The Voice
02:34:53 as taught by Joseph Smith and the DNC
02:34:55 and jst
02:34:58 and with the erotic is given by hands
02:35:00 because it those actually show what
02:35:05 their doing
02:35:12 yeah I think kind of I guess but I I
02:35:15 guess where I’m uh
02:35:17 maybe could use a little bit of
02:35:19 clarification is when one receives the
02:35:21 Melchizedek priesthood it’s also with
02:35:23 the laying out of hands and so you’re
02:35:25 talking about
02:35:26 uh I guess I’m missing the detail there
02:35:30 a little bit so
02:35:32 um just FYI ER so I do know the LDS
02:35:35 brigamind church teaches that the
02:35:37 melchizedek’s given by Lane overhands
02:35:39 now it didn’t always use to teach that
02:35:42 that’s actually more modern
02:35:45 um in fact if someone
02:35:48 I’m actually here with the
02:35:51 responsibilities of Deacons
02:35:53 okay
02:35:54 um let’s do that in just one minute
02:35:56 because I think right now there’s a
02:35:57 bigger issue right now
02:36:00 um so we’ll get back to that in fact
02:36:01 maybe Ben you can go to my resource so
02:36:04 seeking yahweh.com resources slash
02:36:07 priesthood and and go read some of the
02:36:10 stuff at the bottom half where it talks
02:36:12 about how
02:36:13 the Melchizedek or the high person is
02:36:16 given by the voice of uh Elohim himself
02:36:19 there’s a one JSC Genesis 14 and there’s
02:36:24 a few others let me get that that
02:36:27 website again it’s
02:36:32 seekingyhwh.com
02:36:37 is that right y h y h w h okay there we
02:36:42 go yeah
02:36:44 and then two resources slash priesthood
02:36:48 um yep I’m on I’m on resources so I’m
02:36:52 about to go down the priesthood
02:36:57 okay
02:36:59 I’m going to go down here
02:37:02 uh to
02:37:05 foreign
02:37:06 half
02:37:10 yeah
02:37:12 Melchizedek priesthood is given by Elvis
02:37:14 on voice not by the laying on the pounds
02:37:16 all the prophets had the Melchizedek
02:37:19 priesthood and were ordained by God
02:37:21 himself
02:37:23 Joseph Smith
02:37:25 teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith
02:37:27 page 180.
02:37:29 third Nephi 11 21. and the Lord said
02:37:33 unto him I give unto you power that you
02:37:36 shall baptize this people when I am
02:37:38 again ascended unto heaven
02:37:42 it was something that was spoke he
02:37:45 didn’t lay hands onto them right yeah
02:37:48 and again and again the Lord called
02:37:50 others and said unto them likewise he
02:37:53 gave unto them power to baptize and he
02:37:55 said unto them on this why shall ye
02:37:57 baptize and there shall be no
02:37:58 disputations among you Alma 8 4 and he
02:38:03 began to teach the people in the land of
02:38:05 nilak according to the holy order of God
02:38:07 which he had been called
02:38:10 called indicates voice
02:38:13 and he began to teach the people
02:38:14 throughout all the land of Malik
02:38:16 Doctrine and Covenants 84 42 and woe
02:38:20 unto all those who come not unto this
02:38:22 priesthood which ye have received which
02:38:24 I now confirm upon you who are present
02:38:27 to this day
02:38:29 by mine own voice
02:38:33 out of the heavens not by laying on of
02:38:36 hands right
02:38:37 and even I have given the Heavenly hosts
02:38:40 in my angels charge concerning you
02:38:42 God will not acknowledge that which he
02:38:45 has not called ordained and chosen
02:38:48 called again indicates voice
02:38:50 in the beginning God called Adam by his
02:38:53 own voice and the Lord called unto Adam
02:38:56 and said unto him who art thou and he
02:38:59 said Where Art Thou and he said I I
02:39:02 heard thy voice in the garden and I was
02:39:04 afraid because I was naked and hit
02:39:06 myself Adam received instruct
02:39:08 Commandments and instructions from God
02:39:09 this was the order from the beginning
02:39:12 Joseph Smith teaching the Prophet Joseph
02:39:15 Smith page 168. jst Genesis 14.
02:39:21 now Melchizedek was a man of Faith who
02:39:24 wrote righteousness and when a child he
02:39:26 feared God and stopped the mouths of
02:39:29 lions and Prince the violence of fire
02:39:31 and thus having been approved of God he
02:39:34 was ordained and I priest after the
02:39:36 order which the Covenant order of the
02:39:38 Covenant which God made with Enoch it
02:39:41 being after the order with of the Son of
02:39:43 God which order came not I man
02:39:48 nor by the will of man neither by father
02:39:50 nor mother neither by beginning of days
02:39:53 nor end of years but of God
02:39:57 and it was delivered unto Men by The
02:40:01 Calling of his own voice
02:40:06 according to his own will unto as many
02:40:09 as receipt as believed on his name
02:40:12 thus we behold the keys of this
02:40:14 priesthood consisted in obtaining the
02:40:16 voice of Jehovah
02:40:19 yeah
02:40:21 when we consider when we consider it in
02:40:23 the Hebrew
02:40:24 the voice of yehovah and that he that he
02:40:27 talked with him Noah in a familiar and
02:40:30 friendly Manner and he continued
02:40:32 to him the key is the covenants the
02:40:34 power the glory with which he blessed
02:40:37 Adam
02:40:37 so it’s the voice of yehovah Moses 6
02:40:41 66-67 and he heard a voice out of Heaven
02:40:44 saying Thou Art baptized with fire
02:40:49 and with the Holy Ghost
02:40:51 this is the record of the father and the
02:40:53 son from henceforth and forever
02:40:55 and thou art after the order of him was
02:40:58 about beginning of days or end of years
02:41:00 from all eternity to early time
02:41:04 Isaiah 23 17 and it came to pass that
02:41:07 none received authority to preach or to
02:41:09 teach
02:41:10 except it were by him from God
02:41:16 there and therefore he consecrated all
02:41:18 the priests and all the teachers
02:41:19 uh and other were consecrated except
02:41:21 they were just men now that also refers
02:41:24 to Alma
02:41:27 ordaining teachers and Priests
02:41:30 so
02:41:32 um on the alma did lay hands upon people
02:41:36 but
02:41:37 um the aaronic priesthood is dependent
02:41:40 of the Melchizedek and Bishops
02:41:44 are of
02:41:47 I
02:41:47 so Bishops uh maybe bishop wasn’t the
02:41:50 best example but I’ll go with it since
02:41:52 I’m here if someone is of the line
02:41:56 was it Levi or Aaron probably Levi Aaron
02:42:01 okay
02:42:04 yeah yeah they can be a bishop without
02:42:08 having the Melchizedek priesthood if
02:42:10 other people
02:42:12 they need the Melchizedek priesthood
02:42:14 because the auronic is the expendage of
02:42:18 the former Melchizedek right but anyways
02:42:22 um
02:42:22 so
02:42:24 um but what’s going on there which is
02:42:27 maybe actually a good segue into this
02:42:29 other portion is that the erotic
02:42:34 although the Melchizedek is given by The
02:42:36 Voice the aaronic is given by Lane on of
02:42:39 hands
02:42:43 um and so unless you have a specific
02:42:45 question we can maybe segue into sorry
02:42:48 someone with someone saying something
02:42:50 well I was just going to say that’s kind
02:42:52 of like what I’ve been talking about on
02:42:54 uh doctor when asked about it the
02:42:57 doctrine of Christ discussion groups
02:42:59 that the aaronic priesthood is given by
02:43:01 the lane on a band
02:43:02 and uh yeah yeah
02:43:06 the Book of Mormon actually shows
02:43:09 uh both priesthood because in I forget
02:43:12 the verse outside my head but mosiah 18
02:43:15 actually
02:43:17 shows that Alma the Elder got the
02:43:20 Melchizedek priesthood by voice and then
02:43:23 later he then did the aaronic to others
02:43:26 that were Underneath Him by the lane on
02:43:29 of hands because he didn’t get the
02:43:31 Melchizedek from being a wicked priest
02:43:33 of Noah because DNC 121 would come into
02:43:37 play Amen to his priesthood
02:43:40 I’ll tell you Alma the Elder
02:43:43 uh would have got Amen to his priesthood
02:43:46 in fact
02:43:47 um also later in this same
02:43:51 basic history
02:43:53 when Lim high and his people repented
02:43:57 no one was around that had the authority
02:43:59 to baptize
02:44:01 showing that their priesthood was amend
02:44:04 as in goodbye because they were Wicked
02:44:08 right
02:44:10 and that is
02:44:12 one generation removed from Zenith who
02:44:15 was a righteous man but anyways
02:44:18 um
02:44:20 and yeah one generation of wickedness
02:44:22 and nobody has the priesthood
02:44:26 yeah I I mean you see that in the Book
02:44:28 of Mormon with King Noah and limai right
02:44:31 but it was coming out oh that’s okay the
02:44:34 first slice is over thank you very much
02:44:39 um but it’s just the Book of Mormon
02:44:43 actually does show both priesthoods when
02:44:46 you know what to look for is the main
02:44:49 point with some of those
02:44:51 um things right
02:44:53 um
02:44:54 so but if you don’t know what to look
02:44:57 for and if you think everything’s laying
02:44:59 on of hands you’re not going to notice
02:45:00 it
02:45:01 right but LDS history if you go look at
02:45:05 the history of how the Melchizedek
02:45:06 priesthood was given
02:45:09 um for the first
02:45:11 50 to 100 years I don’t know exactly on
02:45:15 this one so my his it’s a little vague
02:45:17 for me but depending on who the
02:45:20 president was at the time the milk
02:45:22 president Melchizedek prison was either
02:45:25 given by Elena of had or or not
02:45:28 and that’s historical it’s just it’s not
02:45:31 correlated history so most people don’t
02:45:33 know it
02:45:34 um
02:45:36 but I do believe at the top of my
02:45:39 priesthood page I do have some links
02:45:42 that get into that
02:45:43 yeah video series by measuring Doctrine
02:45:47 and then they have a that yes I think
02:45:50 that’s the one that gets into that
02:45:51 history much more uh okay so I’m I’m on
02:45:55 the website there uh on the priesthood
02:45:58 page I think and then
02:46:01 it’s the second it’s like the second
02:46:03 paragraph and it talks about very good
02:46:05 series about Teresa okay
02:46:08 okay those those links down there one
02:46:11 two three four and five that’s the
02:46:12 series
02:46:13 okay
02:46:15 for my vague memory I think that’s
02:46:17 probably the best resource that talked
02:46:19 about this changing of how the
02:46:21 Melchizedek priesthood was given
02:46:24 um that there’s there’s others out there
02:46:26 that talk about that it’s just it’s a
02:46:29 well-forgotten history I’m sure on
02:46:32 purpose because of correlation right
02:46:35 um
02:46:37 but uh if you know how to read the
02:46:41 scriptures that we talked about first
02:46:42 you could see it right
02:46:46 um but this is where
02:46:48 you know this is why the eldest Church
02:46:50 says the the current president trumps
02:46:53 everything else because
02:46:55 they’re changing
02:46:57 which
02:46:58 um
02:46:59 uh I I forget where but in the Book of
02:47:02 Mormon it
02:47:04 um I can see if I could find it but it
02:47:06 talks about
02:47:07 the great and abominables are those who
02:47:10 are modifying
02:47:13 um the truth and the LDS church when you
02:47:16 go look at history shows that they
02:47:19 change things
02:47:20 so you’re not is that’s not in second
02:47:23 Levi 28 right
02:47:25 no this is a different verse
02:47:28 um for that one I so second Nephi eight
02:47:32 I mean second Nephi 28 I do believe is
02:47:35 the coming fourth of the Book of Mormon
02:47:38 the record that we currently have
02:47:40 yeah but there are things that are still
02:47:43 going on
02:47:44 that applies to the LDS church
02:47:48 um sure I mean I think all of second
02:47:50 Nephi 28 applies to them you know well
02:47:53 finding the buildings and fine clothing
02:47:55 and uh on and on and on yeah yeah yeah
02:48:00 um so the chapter before that uh Second
02:48:03 Nephi 27 is actually
02:48:05 Isaiah something
02:48:08 and some other explanation or expounding
02:48:11 of it that is talking about the coming
02:48:14 forth of the Book of Mormon there’s a
02:48:16 portion of it that’s talking about the
02:48:18 sealed portion but when you go look at
02:48:22 the first part of second Nephi 28 it
02:48:25 talks about thus shall be the day of
02:48:27 when the Book of Mormon or this book
02:48:29 comes forth uh and it’s talking about
02:48:32 the
02:48:35 um
02:48:36 The Book of Mormon that we have now it’s
02:48:37 not talking about the silk portion
02:48:40 right
02:48:42 um
02:48:45 I I’m trying to see if I can
02:48:49 do my OneNote is this if I go too long
02:48:52 it Zoom kicks me at all yeah take a look
02:48:56 I just this is I love Sega Nephi 28 and
02:49:01 the things which shall be written out of
02:49:02 the book shall be of great worth unto
02:49:04 the children of men and especially unto
02:49:07 our seed which is a remnant of the House
02:49:09 of Israel
02:49:11 oh yeah yeah
02:49:13 um the Believers will love the Book of
02:49:16 Mormon
02:49:17 um so I completely agree with that in
02:49:19 fact what is it second Nephi
02:49:22 33 I think Nephi says if you don’t
02:49:25 believe my words go believe the words of
02:49:28 Christ and once you’ve believed the
02:49:30 words of Christ you’ll believe my words
02:49:31 right
02:49:34 um completely agree okay so the one that
02:49:36 I want is first Nephi 22 14.
02:49:40 um
02:49:41 and it says Those Who pervert the right
02:49:44 ways of the Lord are part of the Great
02:49:46 and abominable church now pervert means
02:49:50 change and the LDS church has done that
02:49:53 a lot
02:49:56 all right
02:49:57 at this point any
02:49:59 any talks about great abominable church
02:50:01 you can
02:50:03 plug LDS I actually came up with the
02:50:06 thought the other day the great and
02:50:08 abominable church is anybody that takes
02:50:10 a fee for pointing to Christ
02:50:15 it takes a but could you could you say
02:50:19 that one more time yeah so the great and
02:50:21 abominable Church might be anyone who
02:50:24 takes a fee to point you toward Christ
02:50:28 oh that would definitely be part of it
02:50:30 because that would be priest craft right
02:50:31 yeah which is the the Church of the
02:50:35 devil does that and
02:50:37 um
02:50:38 did you know that even that that in the
02:50:41 law according to the law tithing is a
02:50:43 free will offering
02:50:45 yeah
02:50:47 um see I I that that I think is totally
02:50:50 right
02:50:51 it’s a free will offer you don’t show up
02:50:53 along with that even
02:50:56 um choose out the Sadducees and
02:50:58 Pharisees for focusing on tithing to the
02:51:02 point of
02:51:03 making sure people tithe their mint is
02:51:06 that what it was I think and Anis yeah
02:51:13 yeah yeah
02:51:16 so they’re so worried about tithing
02:51:19 getting tithing on that but while
02:51:21 they’re doing that they were ignoring
02:51:24 the more important parts of the law
02:51:26 Justice and mercy
02:51:32 um I I forget where I is someone who has
02:51:35 their favorite search engine can go find
02:51:37 that first because I don’t remember
02:51:39 where but it’s yes we should be take pay
02:51:42 tithing
02:51:44 but that the tithing is one tenth of
02:51:46 your Surplus meaning after you paid all
02:51:49 your expenses
02:51:52 um and but either way there’s more
02:51:55 important things Justice and mercy
02:51:58 which we both I think everybody here
02:52:01 knows that the eldest church is not
02:52:03 doing that right they’re they’re
02:52:05 focusing on tithing like the Sadducees
02:52:07 and Pharisees and and forgetting about
02:52:10 Justice because I I mean look at all the
02:52:14 perverted leaders that they promote
02:52:18 instead of excommunicate like DC 42
02:52:21 states to do
02:52:23 and then condemn people who aren’t
02:52:27 paying tithing or or did something an
02:52:30 honest mistake
02:52:31 and they make them feel horrible for it
02:52:34 while they promote people who
02:52:37 um
02:52:37 are raping women
02:52:41 and children and children it’s it’s
02:52:45 horrible yeah they’ve been perverted
02:52:48 Justice and mercy yeah
02:52:51 what but you or do you mean to correlate
02:52:54 Justice and mercy with tithing
02:52:56 no what I maybe I didn’t make it clear
02:52:59 enough no I think I understand I just
02:53:01 want to double check because uh
02:53:04 yeah no I I think I understand I just
02:53:06 wanted to make sure that that those two
02:53:09 are separate yeah yeah
02:53:12 sir go ahead
02:53:14 Justice and mercy are things that are
02:53:18 part of the nature of God
02:53:22 now tithing
02:53:24 is a free will offering for which there
02:53:26 are blessings
02:53:29 and uh for which there are blessings and
02:53:32 consequences
02:53:34 uh attached
02:53:36 So based on
02:53:38 sorry so so it’s
02:53:43 tithing itself is not actually connected
02:53:46 to Justice and mercy but Justice and
02:53:48 mercy act on every law
02:53:52 that God has given forth that’s why
02:53:55 tithing is only on that which is in
02:53:58 excess of your needs and wants that’s
02:54:00 his Mercy
02:54:03 um and it’s not a requirement it is a
02:54:05 free will offering this is Mercy So
02:54:08 based on the Torah can an argument be
02:54:12 made that the tithing or the better said
02:54:15 because tithing I think is a kind of a
02:54:17 loaded term that we don’t find in the
02:54:19 scriptures too often but uh giving to
02:54:23 the poor is something that’s very
02:54:25 strongly encouraged
02:54:27 I will disagree with Ben a little bit I
02:54:30 I do believe the law states tithing is
02:54:33 required in fact as we talked about
02:54:36 earlier gleaning
02:54:39 allowing people to glean your Fields as
02:54:43 part of tithing
02:54:44 allowing people to glean your field is
02:54:47 that what you said yeah so um you missed
02:54:51 part of the conversation so you’ll
02:54:52 probably want to listen to all of it
02:54:53 later but when the sorry someone else
02:54:59 saying something
02:55:01 no okay so when
02:55:04 um
02:55:06 the disciples or Apostles uh were eating
02:55:10 wheat on the Sabbath they were gleaning
02:55:13 and not harvesting harvesting is
02:55:16 forbidden on the Sabbath but gleaning is
02:55:19 allowed and gleaning is where you just
02:55:22 um
02:55:24 When a Stranger or somebody just walking
02:55:26 through a field and they’re hungry and
02:55:28 then you just pick something and start
02:55:30 eating it and that’s exactly what
02:55:31 happened
02:55:34 um and one of the one of the elements of
02:55:36 tithing is allowing the poor
02:55:39 to be able to glean food to be able to
02:55:43 clean food from your Fields if you are
02:55:47 in you part of tithing is not trying to
02:55:50 maximize your profit but as in you know
02:55:54 trying to figure out like in in
02:55:57 in Hellenistic schools they give you all
02:56:00 these wonderful calculus equations to
02:56:04 figure out how to maximize your profit
02:56:06 right to make the most out of to get the
02:56:09 most money out of people
02:56:12 that’s contrary to the law the the
02:56:17 if your goal is to maximize profit
02:56:21 you’re you’re going beyond what Yahweh
02:56:25 is allowed because
02:56:28 as an example of farming you’re supposed
02:56:31 to allow the poor to come and take from
02:56:34 your field so that they can provide for
02:56:36 themselves now there’s multiple things
02:56:39 here the poor still had to go do
02:56:41 something they had to go get it’s not
02:56:44 something that was just given to them
02:56:45 they had to go glean
02:56:47 themselves
02:56:49 so would the poor traditionally ask
02:56:51 permission before they would glean no
02:56:54 they they just the the Lao that the law
02:56:58 completely allowed them to just go off
02:57:00 and do it for example with uh Yeshua and
02:57:03 the disciples they didn’t go to the
02:57:05 owner of the land
02:57:07 where they were gleaning to ask
02:57:09 permission to eat they just ate
02:57:11 the
02:57:14 they were the law allowed them to do it
02:57:18 without asking so
02:57:21 it was not to the point where you know
02:57:24 um
02:57:25 so there’s a little difference between
02:57:27 gleaning and harvesting
02:57:30 um because if you go to the book a roof
02:57:32 uh Ruth was a little more she was poor
02:57:35 right
02:57:38 but she was more harvesting at that
02:57:40 point because it wasn’t the Sabbath so
02:57:43 um
02:57:44 the tithing law that deals in this
02:57:47 portion of it allows people to harvest
02:57:51 the the leftovers and this is where the
02:57:55 owners of the field could not
02:57:59 Harvest everything they had to leave
02:58:01 things behind for the poor and the poor
02:58:03 did not have to ask
02:58:06 for permission because it was just
02:58:08 automatically
02:58:10 I I can’t think of the right word
02:58:13 I think was Ben trying to say something
02:58:15 yeah it was uh the the
02:58:21 first you have to understand what
02:58:22 gleanings are gleanings are the
02:58:24 leftovers after harvest right
02:58:31 and she went and came and gleaned in the
02:58:35 field after the Reapers and her hap was
02:58:38 to light on a part of the field blowing
02:58:40 fun to Boaz it was kind of okay anyway
02:58:43 but yeah so yeah
02:58:45 so the gleaning is the leftovers
02:58:49 after the Harvest
02:58:51 and in the Harvest process
02:58:55 people the people were supposed to leave
02:58:58 leftovers this is a part of how they
02:59:01 took care of the poor and the widows and
02:59:04 The Afflicted
02:59:06 they were supposed to leave leftovers
02:59:08 that they could come by and pick up
02:59:11 and so this was what Ruth was doing as
02:59:14 he’s go in that field gleaning
02:59:17 that field from Boaz
02:59:21 okay
02:59:22 you get me so it’s so it Boaz is not
02:59:27 losing his money trust me he’s got his
02:59:30 he’s harvested pretty well
02:59:35 at the same time because he was selling
02:59:38 it this law is making him lose some
02:59:41 money because he could have gotten more
02:59:43 and sold but
02:59:46 because he’s keeping yahweh’s law Yahweh
02:59:50 blessed him more than he could have done
02:59:52 himself by trying to maximize his profit
02:59:56 if that makes sense
02:59:59 and also doesn’t um
03:00:03 no leaving
03:00:04 leaving some on the in the field like
03:00:08 doesn’t that help the soil and the land
03:00:12 kind of um leaving leaving perhaps the
03:00:16 plant material behind it helps the soil
03:00:19 and the land but the grains itself you
03:00:22 leave those were left behind as a means
03:00:24 to take care of the war yeah the law
03:00:29 actually did it to take care of the poor
03:00:31 not for the
03:00:34 not for the soil
03:00:36 yeah take care of the more some side
03:00:38 effect on it but I it but it was to take
03:00:42 care of the board allowed to go pick it
03:00:44 up so that kind of negates that
03:00:47 yeah so yeah the the poor and the widows
03:00:51 is who that was to provide for
03:00:53 the Lord
03:00:54 loves
03:00:57 the lord loves to take care of the poor
03:00:59 nobody else and he despises those who
03:01:02 will not take care of it
03:01:04 yeah
03:01:06 um and
03:01:08 it so there’s a lot of things with
03:01:11 typing that it’s
03:01:13 parted the tithing laws when you go look
03:01:16 at the Old Testament is that some of it
03:01:18 went to the Levites
03:01:20 and most of what went to the Levites was
03:01:24 to take care of the poor like in Malachi
03:01:27 3 right but
03:01:29 into my Storehouse which is to take care
03:01:32 of the poor some of it did go to the
03:01:35 actual Levites
03:01:37 that was given to them
03:01:41 um and which is fine I mean we can even
03:01:43 see that in the DNC and I talk about
03:01:45 this and my Bishops are judges of Israel
03:01:47 post that’s being a judge to get paid
03:01:50 for your time so there’s nothing wrong
03:01:52 with that and you’ll see that in Acts
03:01:55 also where those who were put in charge
03:01:58 of the resources that were given to the
03:02:01 poor they got a portion of that so it’s
03:02:04 completely in accordance with the law or
03:02:07 Another Part of tithing is that you give
03:02:10 to the poor yourself directly
03:02:15 that’s in the law that’s in the law
03:02:19 um and I I can try to find in my notes
03:02:23 this is just the problem right now but I
03:02:26 would like to see that for future
03:02:28 reference
03:02:34 thank you
03:02:37 okay here’s another interesting about
03:02:39 the law on tithing is it supposed to say
03:02:42 local within your Gates
03:02:46 um
03:02:47 and not sent to one big headquarters
03:02:50 like Salt Lake City Utah it’s supposed
03:02:52 to stay local within your city AKA
03:02:55 within the gates here’s another one for
03:02:57 you that’s interesting
03:03:00 um
03:03:01 that part of paying your tithe of your
03:03:04 of your wine is drinking it
03:03:07 that one I have on my tithing Resource
03:03:09 page
03:03:11 it’s awesome
03:03:13 you know let me make sure I understood
03:03:14 you right so part of the law of Titan is
03:03:18 drinking your own wine yes go go uh
03:03:21 someone go to my tithing Resource page
03:03:24 and search for wine it’s on that one so
03:03:26 oh yeah yeah that one quick
03:03:30 I’ll get that
03:03:32 I’m I’m almost there so I’m at the time
03:03:37 here we go okay so I’m at the tithing
03:03:39 page yeah so just go control F and go
03:03:42 type in wine
03:03:45 whoops
03:03:51 there we go we were to pay a tithe of
03:03:54 our wine partly by consuming it so yeah
03:03:57 go read the verses underneath that
03:03:59 Deuteronomy 14 23 and now shalt eat
03:04:03 before the Lord thy God in the place
03:04:05 which he shall choose to place his name
03:04:08 there the tithe of thy corn of thy wine
03:04:11 and of thine oil and the first things of
03:04:14 thy herds and of thy flocks that thou
03:04:17 mayest learned to fear the lord thy God
03:04:19 always Deuteronomy 14 26 and thou shalt
03:04:22 bestow that money what for whatsoever
03:04:24 thy Soul lusteth after for oxen or for
03:04:27 sheep or for wine or for strong drink or
03:04:30 for whatsoever they sold River and thou
03:04:32 shalt eat there before the Lord thy God
03:04:34 Thou shalt Rejoice thou on thine
03:04:36 household
03:04:37 income
03:04:39 chapters to look at in the law on
03:04:42 tithing
03:04:44 would be Exodus 25
03:04:48 Exodus 35.
03:04:52 so also another one I think it’s first
03:04:55 Timothy I’d have to look but there’s one
03:04:58 about if you don’t take care of your own
03:05:00 family
03:05:03 um your worst thing an Infidel and so
03:05:07 it’s talking about financially and it’s
03:05:10 specifically talking to men
03:05:12 contrast that to how
03:05:15 there’s churches out there including the
03:05:17 ones that we grew up in teach that you
03:05:20 should pay tithing even if you can’t buy
03:05:23 food or pay rent for your family right
03:05:26 that’s a complete opposite yeah that’s
03:05:30 awesome
03:05:31 that’s actually yeah it’s actually
03:05:33 against that is that teaching that
03:05:36 teaching of the law of tithing is
03:05:38 absolutely against Torah right and so
03:05:40 what I’m trying to bring out here’s the
03:05:42 New Testament stating that you don’t pay
03:05:46 tithing unless you have Surplus which
03:05:49 you’ll get in jst
03:05:52 um 14. also I forget the verse but
03:05:55 that’s near the top if so if you want to
03:05:57 search on that page jst Genesis you
03:06:00 could read that one to us I know it’s
03:06:02 jst Genesis 14 something
03:06:04 but it’s basically yeah
03:06:11 okay go on go on 14 37 and 39. through
03:06:17 yeah yeah go ahead and read it lifted up
03:06:19 his voice and he blessed Abram being the
03:06:22 high priest and The Keeper of the
03:06:24 storehouse of God him whom God had
03:06:26 appointed to receive tithes for the poor
03:06:28 wherefore Abram paid unto him tithes of
03:06:32 all that he had of all the riches which
03:06:35 he possessed which God had given him
03:06:36 more than that which he had need
03:06:39 more than what you need is Surplus
03:06:43 yeah
03:06:45 yeah and so that’s what Abraham paid a
03:06:47 tithe on Surplus which goes along with
03:06:50 ENC 119 which I have there too anyways
03:06:54 so that’s uh and after that those who
03:06:57 have thus been tied shall pay one tenth
03:06:59 of all their interests annually and this
03:07:02 shall be a standing line to them forever
03:07:04 for my holy priesthood saith the Lord
03:07:06 verily I say unto you it shall come to
03:07:08 pass that those who gather unto the land
03:07:10 of Zion shall be tithered of their
03:07:12 Surplus properties and shall observe
03:07:14 this law or they shall not be found
03:07:16 worthy to abide among you
03:07:19 so if you want to scroll down a little
03:07:21 more you can go look at the 1828
03:07:24 definition of surplus and also the 1828
03:07:27 definition of standing
03:07:29 which means never changing
03:07:33 yeah
03:07:34 and also uh Doctrine and Covenants uh
03:07:38 the doctrine or Deuteronomy 14 talks
03:07:41 about the tithe that you eat
03:07:45 right
03:07:47 um
03:07:48 I
03:07:50 I looked upstairs with the wine that we
03:07:53 talked about because I think that was
03:07:54 the same but
03:07:57 the main point is here is tithing is
03:08:00 completely misunderstood by
03:08:03 pretty much everybody because they’re
03:08:06 just listening to their false preachers
03:08:08 which I talked about in second Nephi 28
03:08:11 right
03:08:14 but
03:08:15 um there’s multiple aspects to tithing
03:08:18 including you give to the poor yourself
03:08:20 also
03:08:23 um so in most churches who reject the
03:08:27 law they reject it all except for
03:08:30 tithing because they want to get rich
03:08:31 off of it yeah
03:08:34 and
03:08:36 um
03:08:37 The Book of Mormon and the New Testament
03:08:40 teaches that preachers are not to be
03:08:44 paid
03:08:45 judges can be
03:08:48 but that’s different than a preacher
03:08:53 preachers are supposed to go get their
03:08:55 own you know what I I I I think they’re
03:08:58 oh I know there are scriptures that say
03:09:01 or something to the effect that you can
03:09:03 receive a wage or something like that
03:09:06 um but then there are also scriptures in
03:09:08 the New Testament that I think you know
03:09:09 that say you cannot serve God and them
03:09:12 and both
03:09:13 so this tips who are Judges can receive
03:09:17 a wage in fact
03:09:19 um in the New Testament in Acts where
03:09:21 those who dispersed
03:09:23 what was gathered their part under the
03:09:27 the Bishops lost judges plus the
03:09:29 levitical priesthood Arena and they do
03:09:32 get a portion of it but the majority of
03:09:34 it actually does go to the poor but for
03:09:38 preaching
03:09:39 you
03:09:41 are not to get anything in fact some
03:09:44 people will say that Paul got paid no
03:09:47 Paul talks about how he uh was a tent
03:09:52 maker to pay his own way now there Paul
03:09:56 does talk about how one time he was sick
03:09:58 and got some money but the Book of
03:10:01 Mormon actually brings that out also is
03:10:03 that
03:10:05 um
03:10:05 that was during a period where
03:10:09 um
03:10:11 he wasn’t able to take care of himself
03:10:13 so he did get some help and there’s the
03:10:15 Book of Mormon talks about that you eat
03:10:17 so if you go to my at the top of my
03:10:20 website you go click on posts
03:10:23 go search for priest craft and I have a
03:10:27 big list of Book of Mormon verses in
03:10:29 that post
03:10:30 and and one of them talks about how you
03:10:33 know the
03:10:35 teachers and hearers don’t uh consider
03:10:38 themselves better than the others and
03:10:39 that they should then go back to the
03:10:41 fields and work from themselves but a
03:10:44 verse close to that
03:10:46 has an exception for those who are sick
03:10:50 so preachers who are sick and can’t work
03:10:52 can get some money but it’s it’s not a
03:10:56 regular thing it’s just during a while
03:10:58 they’re sick and they can’t take care of
03:11:00 themselves just like happened in Paul in
03:11:03 the New Testament where primarily he
03:11:05 made his own money in fact uh even
03:11:09 Yeshua in the New Testament when we sent
03:11:11 the apostles out which Paul was he
03:11:14 stated
03:11:15 you should not take money with you
03:11:18 right because they were supposed to
03:11:21 depend on people letting them
03:11:25 giving them food or shelter for a
03:11:29 maximum of three days
03:11:31 nothing like a guaranteed paycheck for
03:11:36 preaching to the church
03:11:39 Apostles are supposed to go to the world
03:11:41 to the non-believers not to the
03:11:44 Believers well in fact if you read the
03:11:47 Hebrew gospels regarding
03:11:50 um the missions that the apostles were
03:11:52 to go on they weren’t to stay in any one
03:11:54 area for a terribly long time
03:11:57 right and and from my understanding of
03:11:59 the tradition they weren’t supposed to
03:12:01 be there more than three days give or
03:12:03 take right
03:12:05 yeah that’s cool yeah so they weren’t
03:12:09 supposed to stay in any one area for a
03:12:11 long time and become a uh become a drag
03:12:14 on the people
03:12:15 right
03:12:16 right but
03:12:18 people are supporting them because they
03:12:20 were supposed to actually go preach it
03:12:22 to other people not become popular in
03:12:26 one little area right and and like you
03:12:29 were saying Stephen to kind of rely on
03:12:31 the the maybe the mercy and the Good
03:12:35 Will of the people that you’re trying to
03:12:38 teach
03:12:39 correct up to so long right
03:12:44 now
03:12:45 then you move on and then you move on
03:12:48 right because after they start believing
03:12:53 and then get baptized guess what it’s
03:12:55 now the church and not your
03:12:57 responsibility for the apostles anymore
03:12:59 because the apostles are to the
03:13:01 non-believers to get them believed
03:13:04 wouldn’t you believe no and you get
03:13:06 baptized is now the job of the church
03:13:13 so I the LDS church bringing my church
03:13:17 has that way messed up right I mean we
03:13:21 could go this would be a whole other
03:13:23 thing but I have no tell
03:13:26 um the apostles have the same Authority
03:13:29 as the first presidency
03:13:31 and that’s because they actually do
03:13:34 but in different groups of people
03:13:39 because the apostles have that authority
03:13:42 over the non-believers where the first
03:13:44 presidency has it over the church AKA
03:13:47 believers
03:13:49 in fact in the DNC the apostles are very
03:13:52 calmly referred to as the traveling 12
03:13:54 because they’re supposed to be traveling
03:13:56 among the non-believers AKA not staying
03:13:59 more than three or so days because
03:14:01 they’re traveling anyways
03:14:07 yeah they’re supposed to be traveling
03:14:09 traveling ministers establishing
03:14:11 branches of the Gospel yeah traveling
03:14:14 not
03:14:15 um
03:14:15 setting or sitting or staying it’s just
03:14:19 it
03:14:21 when you have these Keys all these
03:14:24 little phrases really connect to each
03:14:26 other a lot because traveling versus
03:14:30 staying Apostles it’s the traveling
03:14:33 Apostles anyways I’m drilling that in
03:14:35 maybe too much but
03:14:37 it’s called beating a dead horse Steve
03:14:39 yeah I’m sorry
03:14:45 I should stop that but anyway I I’m just
03:14:49 I’m really trying to bring out that
03:14:50 point because that’s an issue for a lot
03:14:53 of
03:14:54 people that we grew up with right
03:15:00 um
03:15:02 in the DNC it States they’re the
03:15:04 traveling 12.
03:15:08 I I so I think it’s plain to see to
03:15:11 anybody that the house is out of
03:15:14 yeah
03:15:16 okay
03:15:18 yeah the sad thing is most of them will
03:15:21 just deceive themselves and make excuses
03:15:26 but are you guys I’m like isn’t I mean
03:15:28 this is purely anecdotal but for me it’s
03:15:31 a huge
03:15:34 Miracle maybe but my mother and sister
03:15:36 who are totally true blue Mormons
03:15:39 they’re actually starting to come around
03:15:41 and in fact last week they asked to see
03:15:44 who killed Joseph Smith which I was
03:15:47 gonna I’m not kind of I was totally
03:15:49 surprised yeah so I I do
03:15:53 believe that what’s going on right now
03:15:56 is part of the Great marvelous work to
03:15:58 get people to wake up before the second
03:16:00 coming
03:16:01 [Music]
03:16:01 um
03:16:04 pretty much but just just Believers in
03:16:08 general throughout the whole world
03:16:09 exactly to give people to get people to
03:16:12 wake up and return to Torah
03:16:15 right before it’s too late Yeshua is
03:16:20 doing all that he can
03:16:22 before he comes to get people to wake up
03:16:25 and
03:16:26 making right and wrong
03:16:30 and the consequences of it more obvious
03:16:32 is part of that great and marvelous work
03:16:35 just before the second coming which is
03:16:37 going on right now and some people are
03:16:39 waking up to it
03:16:41 and some are hardening because of it
03:16:44 right and some people and some people
03:16:47 are Awakening but not arising
03:16:51 yeah because we’re supposed to wake and
03:16:54 arise and so awaking is seeing the
03:16:57 problem arising is knowing what to do
03:17:00 because of it now that you’ve seen it
03:17:03 right yeah
03:17:05 well I mean I know this is off topic
03:17:08 just a teeny tiny bit but tonight I
03:17:11 tuned into Tucker Carlson and the whole
03:17:14 show was about January 6th and everybody
03:17:17 my ex-wife everybody is all about all
03:17:20 these horrible people and storm the
03:17:22 capital and broke on
03:17:24 Carlson has the Q Anon Shaman the guy
03:17:28 with the you know buffalo head or
03:17:30 whatever yeah yeah he actually is being
03:17:33 shown to be led around by police and was
03:17:35 always very kind and respectful and you
03:17:38 know picking up little leaflets and
03:17:39 stuff like that and uh was always
03:17:42 accompanied with police who were showing
03:17:44 him different entrances and exits and
03:17:46 offices and uh anyway so I I bring this
03:17:51 up because just the other day I was
03:17:53 telling my wife well I’ve certainly
03:17:55 warned you that good will be evil and
03:17:59 evil will be good and I I think we’re
03:18:02 seeing the you know like the church as
03:18:04 an example January 6 so many things that
03:18:06 we thought were evil were actually
03:18:09 well you know like anyway you know what
03:18:11 I’m saying well I I I I do believe that
03:18:14 January 6 was a setup and I actually do
03:18:18 believe that the Democrats and the
03:18:21 Republicans were both in on it
03:18:23 absolutely
03:18:25 um and and but they’re using this drama
03:18:29 to divide the people yes
03:18:32 that’s right they do that everywhere
03:18:35 sorry go ahead
03:18:38 using the right person’s left paradigm
03:18:41 yeah
03:18:42 screw with us
03:18:45 and when it and when right versus left
03:18:49 doesn’t work anymore they’ll come up
03:18:51 with a different one anything that
03:18:53 divides or creates contention going back
03:18:56 to third Nephi 11. I’m here to do away
03:18:58 in fact they even divide back they even
03:19:00 divide the right against itself and the
03:19:02 left against itself yep
03:19:06 totally
03:19:08 and so and I think I mean I know that
03:19:10 you guys are big Believers in the temple
03:19:12 ceremony and honestly I’m not sort of
03:19:14 sure what I can take but there are some
03:19:16 I for me as an example the key endowment
03:19:20 the the the endowment that we actually
03:19:22 received I think is the knowledge that
03:19:26 governments and churches are owned by
03:19:29 the devil and yet the church and most
03:19:33 people have never really made a big deal
03:19:34 of that but that’s huge huge huge
03:19:39 well I so Satan has to
03:19:43 to some extent tell you what his plan is
03:19:46 and
03:19:47 that’s kind of what’s going on in the
03:19:50 temple my endowmental ceremony
03:19:54 stating what’s going on and in there I I
03:19:59 mean so the the leaf from the tree
03:20:03 it represents the sin and they’re trying
03:20:06 to cover themselves in their sin
03:20:09 um they have not let go of it and people
03:20:12 don’t understand that they’re putting it
03:20:14 as a garment
03:20:16 and what saves you is being putting on
03:20:21 the white garments of the Messiah
03:20:25 not
03:20:26 a green one if that if you who’s the
03:20:29 green dragon
03:20:30 I have just
03:20:33 where is the Great dragon illusion what
03:20:36 do you mean
03:20:37 Satan
03:20:39 well yeah but uh is that mentioned in
03:20:42 the temple or in the scripture somewhere
03:20:43 the green dragon
03:20:45 well
03:20:46 um I I don’t know if those two are
03:20:49 actually completely tied together
03:20:51 on the green and the dragon but
03:20:55 um
03:20:57 has to do with Envy um
03:21:03 and I at different times the dragon has
03:21:07 different colors I’m not sure if the
03:21:09 book Revelation actually States Green
03:21:11 Dragon someone can maybe go check on
03:21:13 that in the uh in The Lord of the Rings
03:21:18 there’s the green dragon in
03:21:23 The Hobbit right which is that it’s
03:21:26 referring to saying but I I think in in
03:21:30 scriptures is what I think Darren’s
03:21:32 getting more to
03:21:35 um I I don’t know off top my head if
03:21:38 there’s a verse that actually States the
03:21:40 dream Green Drive ethical search
03:21:43 but I I do think if you take put the
03:21:45 concepts together it it
03:21:48 follows through green has to do with MB
03:21:52 uh if in your heart and if you don’t
03:21:57 protect your heart with the law which is
03:22:00 actually why
03:22:03 um like an ET and the Catholic
03:22:08 Mary and the Catholic Jesus why the
03:22:12 heart is exposed because it’s not being
03:22:14 protected or guarded by the law
03:22:17 hmm
03:22:19 um
03:22:21 the green has to do with the heart but
03:22:23 anyways no that’s great the Catholic the
03:22:26 Catholic the Catholic Mary is the
03:22:28 Catholic Mary is the Babylonian Ishtar
03:22:31 yeah it’s like she’s the queen of Heaven
03:22:34 it’s all over it if you know what to
03:22:37 look for uh her color of blue is not by
03:22:41 accident
03:22:42 um and I mean if you really want to get
03:22:45 into it go go watch my Hunchback
03:22:47 commentary and I’ll I’ll talk about the
03:22:50 the the the shape of the dress that
03:22:53 they’re doing it’s not by accident it’s
03:22:56 all sexual and which goes along with
03:23:00 adultery which goes along with how
03:23:03 um the wicked are a wicked and
03:23:06 adulterous generation
03:23:09 there’s a lot of meaning to that phrase
03:23:12 um
03:23:14 I I I’d rather not get too much so
03:23:17 they’re yeah so there’s there’s yeah
03:23:20 symbolism is huge when you understand
03:23:25 the symbolism you understand who’s
03:23:27 providing Your Entertainment you
03:23:30 understand who’s providing your religion
03:23:32 you understand
03:23:35 a lot of things
03:23:36 symbolism is
03:23:39 huge
03:23:40 yeah where do you guys go to learn all
03:23:43 this symbolism
03:23:44 I’ve learned some for me yeah for me
03:23:48 it’s for me it’s a product of a misspent
03:23:50 youth
03:23:54 um
03:23:55 for me it’s been Yahweh who’s been
03:23:58 teaching it to me and the scriptures and
03:24:00 thought
03:24:01 okay
03:24:04 yeah and hopefully I mean you with some
03:24:07 of the my Gnostic commentaries I hope
03:24:09 some people start seeing some of it
03:24:12 um
03:24:13 because I I bring out specific
03:24:16 applications of it that’s in in those
03:24:18 particular
03:24:19 uh movies right but
03:24:23 um
03:24:24 scriptures
03:24:26 Yahweh and thinking about it
03:24:30 um okay but the but the most important
03:24:32 thing is the most important thing to
03:24:34 dwell on is not the decision
03:24:36 right
03:24:37 most important thing to dwell on
03:24:40 is learning the truth
03:24:42 of Yogi and I agree with you know that
03:24:45 because if you don’t know the truth you
03:24:46 won’t know how to spot the deception
03:24:49 yeah
03:24:51 um so like in in
03:24:54 the Tanakh Old Testament it talks about
03:24:57 how it’s the job of the Kings to bring
03:25:00 out the Mysteries
03:25:02 it
03:25:04 the the king that’s being referred there
03:25:07 is not just the
03:25:09 king of Israel like you know the one
03:25:12 that does the governmental rule but it’s
03:25:14 the kings of Priests of Yahweh who are
03:25:18 seeking after his ways diligently that’s
03:25:23 in my opinion is the king that’s being
03:25:25 talked about there because those are the
03:25:28 ones that are going to bring out the
03:25:29 Mysteries are those who are diligently
03:25:32 seeking after him and his ways right
03:25:35 okay
03:25:38 knowledge of the truth
03:25:40 knowledge of the truth and the greater
03:25:42 light
03:25:45 brings to light all Darkness
03:25:49 and therefore
03:25:52 if you wish
03:25:54 if you wish to know the depth of the
03:25:56 deception you must know the fullness of
03:25:58 the truth
03:25:59 right
03:26:01 and along those lines
03:26:03 uh no one but Yeshua knows how hard it
03:26:06 is to resist sin completely because he
03:26:09 is the only one that
03:26:11 resisted sin completely
03:26:16 so he’s the only one that knows how hard
03:26:19 it is because he’s the only one that
03:26:22 really did it did it yeah
03:26:25 because if you give in to sin it shows
03:26:28 you don’t really know how hard it would
03:26:30 have been to resist it
03:26:34 because you can’t even
03:26:40 yeah guys I’m gonna I’m gonna pardon my
03:26:45 excuse myself if you don’t mind I
03:26:46 appreciate the great time tonight this
03:26:48 has been fun
03:26:52 on Mondays or do you do uh established
03:26:56 service ever just on the Monday well
03:26:58 this is this is
03:27:01 where uh the perfect solar calendar
03:27:06 I know we talked about that I just
03:27:08 haven’t studied it enough to understand
03:27:10 okay perfect for sure so
03:27:14 um I have some stuff on the way if you
03:27:16 go to my calendar
03:27:17 um Resource page
03:27:19 uh probably the best thing is go to that
03:27:22 YouTube
03:27:23 uh playlist that’s near the top of the
03:27:25 list that’s on there okay
03:27:27 I’m on your page and then
03:27:30 um you go to contact post resources or
03:27:33 yeah go to resources okay and then
03:27:36 calendar
03:27:37 oh okay
03:27:39 and then I think it’s the second link
03:27:41 there’s a YouTube playlist that’s
03:27:43 probably
03:27:44 the best way to start in fact videos two
03:27:48 through
03:27:51 four or five are the ones that converted
03:27:53 me to it but
03:27:55 then there’s your app your app on it’s
03:27:58 on there right too uh yeah at the very
03:28:00 bottom it has a link to my app that I
03:28:03 made for it
03:28:04 um
03:28:06 so you can know when the lunar sabbaths
03:28:09 are that’s awesome
03:28:11 yeah
03:28:13 so uh we do these on lunar Sabbath which
03:28:16 if you get the app for the blue days and
03:28:19 New Moon days which are the
03:28:22 um
03:28:22 more red days because I have a kind of a
03:28:25 red and kind of an orange for transition
03:28:27 but anyways
03:28:29 um but you can find out those the the
03:28:32 blue days
03:28:33 and the new moon days are the days we do
03:28:38 this on uh and it’s a big subject but
03:28:41 Genesis
03:28:43 um 14 and 16 and if you pick click the
03:28:46 sabbas page gets into that also and I I
03:28:51 say Sabbath on purpose because I we
03:28:53 stated a little bit earlier already that
03:28:56 there’s the weekly Sabbath the moonly
03:28:58 Sabbath and the annual Sabbath and that
03:29:02 is all three of those are yahweh’s seal
03:29:06 versus the mark but that’s a whole other
03:29:09 subject
03:29:10 that’s awesome
03:29:13 well good job you guys it’s fun talking
03:29:16 to you oh it’s always it’s always good
03:29:19 to have you around yeah
03:29:22 that’s gonna come last time and I I it’s
03:29:26 funny because even tonight I think it
03:29:28 said 6 30 maybe I said 6 30 Eastern time
03:29:30 I don’t know but I was but then I uh
03:29:33 came in it so I said 8 30. so anyway
03:29:36 I’ll just plan on anything I I have
03:29:38 noticed on that point that the Facebook
03:29:40 mobile app
03:29:42 has problems with time zone conversions
03:29:45 whereas the desktop web does it
03:29:48 correctly I know
03:29:50 so in the note that I put on these it
03:29:54 actually puts the the right time for uh
03:29:58 Mountain Central and Eastern Time on it
03:30:01 so you could look at those
03:30:03 and and ignore the Facebook mobile app
03:30:05 because I’ve
03:30:07 noticed actually Sue is actually the one
03:30:09 that pointed out to me that
03:30:11 um the mobile Facebook app puts it
03:30:16 it’s off by two hours for some reason I
03:30:18 I have no idea why
03:30:20 oh that’s funny okay well I get to know
03:30:23 yeah that’s thanks for the clarification
03:30:25 yeah but if you check the desktop web
03:30:29 it’s it’s correct so why I have no idea
03:30:33 sorry yeah that well that was the funny
03:30:35 thing is I went to the web and on the
03:30:37 desktop
03:30:38 it’s at 8 30 I’m like oh perfect I’ll
03:30:40 make it tonight okay
03:30:44 hey thank you I’ll talk to you soon
03:30:48 yep you have a good one Darren thank you
03:30:51 see ya yep
03:30:58 so I I actually kind of forget what we
03:31:01 were doing before Darren came I I don’t
03:31:04 know if Kesley has a question that she
03:31:06 may want to go over or
03:31:08 or
03:31:09 I don’t really feel like I’ve had a
03:31:11 question this week I
03:31:14 yeah I’m just I’m trying to mow through
03:31:16 the Book of Mormon again so
03:31:19 I’m in Jacob now
03:31:21 but
03:31:22 I don’t I haven’t really Which chapter
03:31:26 um five
03:31:27 ah that one’s a good one
03:31:30 yeah
03:31:32 and I talked a little bit about five how
03:31:35 it’s prophecy last week I don’t know if
03:31:37 you saw this a little bit I haven’t I
03:31:40 haven’t watched it yet
03:31:42 no but I will I will you might like it
03:31:45 because I
03:31:46 there’s more to the prophecy that I’ve
03:31:49 brought out there but I mainly brought
03:31:51 up a little bit just to show when it
03:31:54 gets to the end it’s a profit it has a
03:31:57 prophecy that the mining strong one will
03:31:59 be teaching Torah
03:32:04 um you might find that a little
03:32:06 interesting yeah okay
03:32:08 y’all listen to that
03:32:11 oh
03:32:13 do you have something you want to share
03:32:14 Zach or talk about
03:32:19 I’ve been wondering
03:32:21 sorry
03:32:22 been wondering if like when
03:32:25 you might do the Lord of the Rings
03:32:29 yes I do want to do that
03:32:32 um not tonight because I’m not in the
03:32:34 situation no I wasn’t talking about
03:32:36 tonight
03:32:40 uh maybe next week
03:32:42 the problem is
03:32:45 um we were supposed to do the DNC
03:32:47 sections today but because of my power
03:32:50 problems we didn’t
03:32:53 um I’m not sure how long that will take
03:32:56 other than that if it’s not that week
03:33:00 the week after that because we do need
03:33:03 to do that and we this is where we’ll
03:33:04 probably have to watch
03:33:06 Tom and then do more next time because
03:33:11 um I do think we want to do the extended
03:33:13 and that can take a while right because
03:33:16 I think just the movie itself like then
03:33:18 it is four hours
03:33:19 yeah
03:33:20 yeah just from the first uh
03:33:24 just from the first uh two hours of
03:33:27 Fellowship of the Ring uh I know that we
03:33:31 had
03:33:32 tons of notes it came up just in the
03:33:35 first few hours of the first movie alone
03:33:38 so I and I haven’t washed them yet
03:33:41 because my more my free time’s been
03:33:43 working on finishing the Jake Hilton
03:33:45 post but I have wondered
03:33:48 and we talk about it right now some
03:33:50 since we’re here is I actually Wonder
03:33:57 if gone Gandalf
03:34:00 could represent
03:34:03 Babylon
03:34:04 in one sense because we’re in the past
03:34:08 he looked Gray
03:34:10 but now they make him look white
03:34:14 interesting interesting and so we’d I’d
03:34:18 have to go back and you know look for
03:34:19 more correlations just that one because
03:34:22 one one is not a correlation right and
03:34:25 so this is where we’d have to go back
03:34:26 and look over multiple
03:34:29 things that he brings that could
03:34:31 represent that or you know confirm that
03:34:34 one way or the other but I I do know
03:34:37 just historically
03:34:40 um
03:34:41 the Pagan churches were kind of more
03:34:43 along the gray right mixing the black
03:34:47 and the white which is where gray comes
03:34:49 from and not hiding it
03:34:52 were the Catholic church is kind of more
03:34:56 like the white and they’re they’re
03:34:58 hiding the fact that they’re mixing it
03:35:01 they are doing that but they’re they’re
03:35:04 making they’re not being blunt about it
03:35:06 right they’re trying to hide them yeah
03:35:10 they’re trying to hide the black squares
03:35:12 underneath
03:35:14 correct it’s more when you get deep when
03:35:16 you start seeing that right it’s
03:35:19 um or another thought I’ve had that he
03:35:21 could represent
03:35:23 on
03:35:24 the white part could be the peace
03:35:27 right
03:35:29 where we’re getting trouble when they
03:35:31 start claiming peace so like the fifth
03:35:33 Kingdom
03:35:35 um is another thought and this is where
03:35:37 as we watch it through we need to watch
03:35:41 out for some things that would correlate
03:35:44 more with these different aspects
03:35:47 because just just one point here or
03:35:50 there it could be taken either way but
03:35:51 this is where we need multiple points to
03:35:53 know what he’s actually supposed to
03:35:55 represent
03:35:56 yeah I just haven’t I had a thought
03:35:59 like sorry sorry human
03:36:03 not Sauron sorry one the white with you
03:36:08 man
03:36:09 if he represents some
03:36:12 the Catholic Church
03:36:16 like he
03:36:18 publicly
03:36:20 vouches for
03:36:23 you know Sauron Sauron Yahweh
03:36:28 but he makes you know he makes the
03:36:30 urukai
03:36:32 you know mixing visual stuff
03:36:43 interesting thought
03:36:45 I’ll have to look I’ll have to I’ll have
03:36:48 to look for some more correlations
03:36:50 yeah this is this where
03:36:54 I think what’s important is that we
03:36:56 first off we need to get all what we
03:36:59 need to figure out what all the
03:37:00 disparate elements are
03:37:02 sure
03:37:05 um
03:37:06 and then we have to start booking and we
03:37:09 have and we really have to break down
03:37:11 and watch their scenes
03:37:15 yeah it wanna like on the ones that I’ve
03:37:18 done myself it’s kind of a feedback when
03:37:21 you get one it helps you figure out the
03:37:23 others
03:37:25 um and the pieces start fitting together
03:37:28 but
03:37:29 um
03:37:30 on some parts you kind of have to work
03:37:32 through it for example that so
03:37:36 um oh well a couple weeks ago I figured
03:37:38 out Peach for
03:37:41 um James and the Giant Peach and it’s
03:37:43 just immorality
03:37:46 yep
03:37:47 uh and that’s you know it goes along
03:37:51 with uh you know adulterous generation
03:37:54 but anyways it’s the immorality of
03:37:57 people that is being used to bring forth
03:38:01 what you know that whole group is
03:38:03 pushing forth
03:38:06 and it’s interesting while I was
03:38:08 studying this there’s a
03:38:13 a non-panda guy canonized possible
03:38:17 Prophet that actually uses peach trees
03:38:20 as wickedness
03:38:23 of the about around the time of
03:38:26 of the 400 years that we don’t really
03:38:30 have much on right
03:38:32 um I think is when the time was I’d have
03:38:34 to go look again but
03:38:36 um I don’t remember a whole bunch about
03:38:38 him because he’s not canonized but it’s
03:38:42 interesting he uses peach trees as a
03:38:45 sign of
03:38:47 um them being Wicked
03:38:52 okay let me let me try to find I got to
03:38:55 be quick because otherwise I’m going to
03:38:57 take you out
03:38:59 let me hold on
03:39:03 so if I disappear I’ll be back
03:39:06 [Music]
03:39:07 next week didn’t we
03:39:10 you posted on Facebook that you wanted
03:39:12 to
03:39:14 make tassels next week oh yeah yeah I
03:39:17 hope to do that next week and I I didn’t
03:39:20 want to do it this week for those who
03:39:22 wanted to order a kit so
03:39:24 um on it’s not home n a h u m and it’s
03:39:32 chapter 3 verses 12 through 19 that
03:39:34 talks about the peach tree and
03:39:36 association with the immorality
03:39:40 um
03:39:41 but I I I I’ve also liked the the peach
03:39:48 um
03:39:49 emotion con
03:39:51 also has immorality related to it when
03:39:54 you go
03:39:56 um go online and just see what people
03:39:58 say about it and what it means it has to
03:40:00 do with them or reality also
03:40:02 um so it
03:40:04 they’re really
03:40:06 they’re coinciding with each other that
03:40:08 the more scriptural basis in the
03:40:10 non-scriptural are kind of saying the
03:40:12 same thing
03:40:14 um yeah but but we’re but we’re just
03:40:17 conspiracy theorists who have no
03:40:19 discernment so there you go
03:40:21 uh yeah well
03:40:24 yeah so
03:40:26 um the week after we do DNC I’m looking
03:40:29 forward to expounding the Lost Doctrine
03:40:32 icon our logo
03:40:36 but I I’m looking forward to doing that
03:40:39 one
03:40:40 um
03:40:40 and then
03:40:42 I I’m actually kind of interested how
03:40:44 people are going to respond to that
03:40:48 yeah that’d be interesting
03:40:51 yeah anyways
03:40:53 um
03:40:55 but I it’s
03:41:00 so the DNC
03:41:02 and the New Testament talks about
03:41:04 exposing these things right so that’s
03:41:07 that’s just all what we’re doing
03:41:10 um
03:41:10 and if people can’t see it after we
03:41:13 bring it out or if they want to argue
03:41:15 with it
03:41:16 it’s just more going to show whose side
03:41:18 that they’re on
03:41:20 and also the point is
03:41:24 after we have told them what’s there
03:41:28 our duty is done
03:41:30 oh yeah yeah
03:41:32 um I’m I I know I know people
03:41:36 have told me
03:41:38 that my Gnostic commentaries have really
03:41:41 helped them see what’s going on in in
03:41:44 the movies and then then in real life
03:41:47 also it
03:41:50 part of doing on the movies is just
03:41:52 because it’s less controversial that I
03:41:54 hope that some people are more willing
03:41:56 to listen to it but then
03:41:59 they see it in the world world
03:42:01 afterwards
03:42:03 um because on some people if I just
03:42:05 would have gone right in the straight
03:42:07 real world they wouldn’t have listened
03:42:09 and so I’ve done both go look at some of
03:42:11 my posts I’ve done both there’s a
03:42:14 different people need different things
03:42:16 right
03:42:18 and that’s why different people can
03:42:20 reach different people
03:42:22 um because we different approaches
03:42:25 um so it
03:42:28 but I think sir go ahead okay I was just
03:42:32 gonna say I have been wondering about
03:42:34 that uh where it does say that in the
03:42:36 last days things will be exposed so do
03:42:39 you think that like the Catholic church
03:42:41 the brighamite church all these churches
03:42:44 will be
03:42:45 exposed to the point where it’s not
03:42:48 people can’t deny it anymore because I
03:42:50 mean goodness so far so many people have
03:42:53 so many excuses for what’s happening
03:42:56 right now
03:42:57 with the church and is it gonna is it
03:43:00 gonna get to the point where it’s just
03:43:02 not even
03:43:04 well it’s going to get to the point
03:43:06 where if people continue to deny it
03:43:09 they’re the kind of people who would say
03:43:10 that the sun is shining in the middle of
03:43:12 the night
03:43:13 yeah yeah and I do believe that is what
03:43:17 you’re saying is part of it Kesley in
03:43:19 fact I I haven’t gotten to this quite
03:43:23 too much because I’m trying to focus on
03:43:25 the Jake Hilton post but uh I have done
03:43:28 a little bit on how people are making
03:43:32 dumbass excuses for the church’s blatant
03:43:37 fraud
03:43:39 yes what’s going on right now they yeah
03:43:44 it’s right I I don’t know how they can’t
03:43:46 see it in fact I think the only reason
03:43:48 they’re making excuses is because it’s
03:43:51 their leaders who they’ve been
03:43:54 brainwashed
03:43:55 to believe they can never lead anyone
03:43:58 astray yeah wow they’re preaching the
03:44:02 members to obey the law but they are not
03:44:06 you know that is not obvious
03:44:08 it’s because you’re brainwashed I’m
03:44:10 sorry but it just really is
03:44:14 um
03:44:15 and you would say if your leader said
03:44:19 that the Sun was shining or that the
03:44:22 moon was out at Noonday
03:44:25 you would agree with them
03:44:28 that’s what’s happening
03:44:30 I know I know I think I get tired of I
03:44:34 just keep hoping that like family
03:44:36 members will see so they’ll stop telling
03:44:39 me well how crazy I am you know and I
03:44:41 know that’s a personal
03:44:43 selfish thing of me uh uh I I feel the
03:44:48 same thing at times too so don’t worry
03:44:50 about it
03:44:51 um yeah I would say it’s partly selfish
03:44:54 and partly not right because you want
03:44:55 them to wake up yeah so it’s not all
03:44:58 selfish but yeah yeah
03:45:01 well the
03:45:03 my whole thing is that my whole thing is
03:45:06 I feel that way a lot I
03:45:10 I face a lot of Wrath because I’ve had
03:45:13 over the years many friends of many
03:45:16 different Persuasions
03:45:18 [Music]
03:45:19 and what I put now what I put out now
03:45:24 draws the Wrath and ire
03:45:29 of those who love wickedness
03:45:34 and they
03:45:36 are constantly
03:45:40 um
03:45:41 they’re constantly uh
03:45:44 bad melting
03:45:47 the law
03:45:50 encouraging and saying that religion is
03:45:53 as hideous
03:45:54 that I’m mentally diseased because I
03:45:57 believe
03:45:59 um
03:46:01 and you know this these things follow
03:46:05 unfortunately
03:46:06 Jesus Christ never Jesus Christ never
03:46:09 promised us his peace in this world
03:46:12 yeah
03:46:13 well uh so let me clarify a little bit
03:46:17 um inner peace yes
03:46:20 yeah but
03:46:22 uh
03:46:24 not he never he never promised we
03:46:28 wouldn’t have challenges and so there’s
03:46:30 there’s a difference he never he never
03:46:33 he never promised he never promised us
03:46:35 an easy ride
03:46:37 right
03:46:38 um I I would say a lot of these people
03:46:41 though
03:46:43 if it was a different organization
03:46:47 they would be saying something
03:46:49 completely different showing a double
03:46:51 standard I know I know
03:46:55 and
03:46:57 it
03:46:58 I I know probably the I I haven’t been
03:47:01 harping on this one too much today I’m
03:47:03 just trying to focus on other things
03:47:06 um but
03:47:08 I I
03:47:15 these people are just pushing a double
03:47:17 standard they’re like and they even are
03:47:20 saying that well it was just these
03:47:23 the workers are doing no if you go
03:47:25 actually read the details it was the
03:47:28 first presidency period that told them
03:47:30 to do it
03:47:32 um
03:47:33 to
03:47:35 not just break the law but fraud and
03:47:38 some people are even bringing out how
03:47:40 the temple recommend interview which is
03:47:44 unscriptural okay but it itself talks
03:47:48 about how you should be financially
03:47:51 honest and here’s the church
03:47:53 doing the exact opposite of that yeah
03:47:56 yeah
03:47:57 but we but we could justify that because
03:48:01 the government’s a bunch of wires to be
03:48:03 used so what’s it’s okay to lie the liar
03:48:06 to be okay okay so if that’s the case
03:48:09 and I I do tend to agree with that
03:48:12 then stop telling them to keep the law
03:48:14 of the land
03:48:16 to put it more accurately the law of the
03:48:19 government then stop preaching
03:48:22 right
03:48:23 because I’ll I’ll say yeah there is
03:48:27 um
03:48:28 keep the law of the government up to the
03:48:30 point that it tells you to break God’s
03:48:33 law and we can get that with
03:48:37 in Daniel with Daniel and his three
03:48:40 brothers and Paul in the New Testament
03:48:43 right
03:48:44 um
03:48:46 it’s better to obey God than man
03:48:49 right the the governments have their
03:48:52 place
03:48:54 um keep it within reason but not to the
03:48:57 point that it makes you break God’s law
03:49:01 so again this brings me back to the 100
03:49:04 million velvet question 500 million
03:49:07 dollar hypothetical
03:49:09 that everybody always asks what’s that
03:49:14 or that I get so often not uh
03:49:20 so if you were hiding Jews in your house
03:49:23 and the knots in the time of the Nazis
03:49:24 would you have lied to them about it
03:49:28 ah so
03:49:30 so lying is against the law in fact the
03:49:35 Book of Mormon actually
03:49:37 makes it more clear how bad it is to lie
03:49:41 more than Torah in my opinion because
03:49:43 you know that shall be thrust down to
03:49:46 Hell
03:49:47 oh right
03:49:49 at the same time you don’t have to
03:49:53 um
03:49:54 completely answer them either so it’s a
03:49:58 Nazi come knocks on your door and asks
03:50:01 do you have a junior house you can say I
03:50:04 saw one walk down the road not this not
03:50:07 long ago
03:50:09 near this point
03:50:13 and if you actually saw someone do that
03:50:15 if it was
03:50:17 a day an hour or a week
03:50:20 you’re not lying because you could go
03:50:22 look at the word soon in the scriptures
03:50:24 that’s a very interesting word
03:50:30 oh
03:50:30 did I lie
03:50:33 no
03:50:35 I did not lie
03:50:39 now I will also say if
03:50:45 you
03:50:47 don’t know how to do that or didn’t free
03:50:50 think about it and and how to answer
03:50:52 some of these maybe tough questions in
03:50:54 the moment
03:50:57 um
03:50:59 it may be better to lie
03:51:02 and this is where I I I’m not to the
03:51:06 point where I could say what yes one way
03:51:07 or the other but
03:51:09 it would be better if you prepared
03:51:13 so that way you’re not lying
03:51:15 do you keep them in your house just come
03:51:17 up with an answer that’s not a lie
03:51:21 right because there are times in the
03:51:23 scriptures where prophets or people
03:51:25 asked Yahweh for an answer and Yahweh
03:51:29 doesn’t directly give them an answer
03:51:31 does he he gives them something but he
03:51:33 doesn’t directly answer the specific
03:51:35 question he gave them something
03:51:39 that’s what I’m saying that’s what you
03:51:41 should do with the Nazis give them
03:51:43 something
03:51:45 not necessarily what they’re asking
03:51:48 just enough to get him off your back and
03:51:51 get him to leave you alone because I
03:51:53 mean I it’s maybe not the best way of
03:51:56 saying it but sometimes that’s what
03:51:57 Yahweh does when he answers prayers or
03:52:00 answers questions he gave him just
03:52:02 enough to get him off his back right
03:52:05 yeah true
03:52:09 so that’s how you answer the Nazis just
03:52:12 keep give them enough to get them off
03:52:14 your off your porch
03:52:17 [Music]
03:52:18 juice
03:52:20 [Laughter]
03:52:23 I
03:52:24 I I think you can all see I I bring you
03:52:28 that happens in the scriptures
03:52:31 yeah and it’s not lying
03:52:34 and lying is pretty bad so I I
03:52:39 if you don’t know how to do that I’m not
03:52:41 sure what to tell you on several Abraham
03:52:44 actually did not lie
03:52:46 no they did not on that subject no on
03:52:49 that subject Sarah and Abraham did not
03:52:50 lie
03:52:52 because by their by their custom and
03:52:54 traditions she was also his sister
03:52:57 yeah they didn’t have the word cousin in
03:53:00 fact the reason why we say follow the
03:53:02 tradition or follow your fathers because
03:53:05 they didn’t have a word for grandfather
03:53:07 back then or great great great great
03:53:09 great great great great grandfather
03:53:10 right it was just father
03:53:13 they didn’t have a word for him they
03:53:15 didn’t have a word for Cousin It was
03:53:16 Sister
03:53:17 he didn’t lie
03:53:20 yeah
03:53:23 um but people want to apply what we know
03:53:27 now or the way we think of things now to
03:53:30 a culture that was completely different
03:53:33 to justify themselves in their own sense
03:53:37 I’m trying to understand what was really
03:53:39 going on and how they thought about it
03:53:42 differently
03:53:44 sorry go ahead
03:53:45 it’s called presentism
03:53:48 yeah it this is where you apply the
03:53:51 values of the present of your
03:53:52 present-day Society
03:53:54 to a completely foreign Society
03:53:56 it’s not how it works
03:53:59 and this scriptures are to help us know
03:54:03 of yahweh’s ways
03:54:06 but the tricky thing is
03:54:09 it was written during and given to
03:54:12 people of a different culture that we’re
03:54:15 in right now
03:54:16 and so if you don’t learn about the
03:54:19 culture you’re gonna misunderstand
03:54:21 what’s being said in the scriptures
03:54:23 I I mean I I deal with this to some
03:54:26 degree every day in my life
03:54:28 I married someone a foreigner
03:54:32 the issue is still alive today
03:54:37 I mean if you do international business
03:54:39 which I’ve dealt with that issue is
03:54:42 still alive today
03:54:44 but people will reject that
03:54:47 because they want to reject the law and
03:54:49 so they’ll find any way of English
03:54:52 translations that they like
03:54:55 to get around the wall
03:54:57 yeah not understanding there’s cultural
03:55:00 issues going on and different ways of
03:55:03 thinking of things
03:55:05 it
03:55:07 I anyways
03:55:10 people don’t want to consider that
03:55:12 because they want an excuse
03:55:19 me you know sometimes if you’re
03:55:21 sometimes if you’re patient enough
03:55:27 you wear down their excuses
03:55:32 uh yeah so
03:55:35 I I think stom are just deceived and
03:55:39 they don’t know any better and that’s
03:55:41 because they’re listening to the wrong
03:55:42 teachers as talked about in second Nephi
03:55:44 28. or others their hearts are just
03:55:48 Stone
03:55:50 and
03:55:52 we don’t know who they are
03:55:55 and so we just have to keep trying to a
03:55:57 certain point
03:55:59 but at the same time don’t try forever
03:56:02 because Yeshua told the apostles
03:56:05 if they reject you dust your feet and
03:56:08 move on
03:56:09 so it can be it’s a tricky balance
03:56:12 because we’re supposed we still need to
03:56:14 teach them
03:56:16 but in general I you could say that
03:56:19 don’t focus on it but if it comes up
03:56:21 again help them but don’t make it a
03:56:24 focus after you do so much with them
03:56:26 yeah
03:56:28 um well that’s why with some people I
03:56:30 already know
03:56:32 that what I do what I’m supposed to do
03:56:35 with this person
03:56:37 is do a pushback
03:56:40 and then just disengage
03:56:44 with some people that’s just you put you
03:56:48 do a pushback to put some truth out
03:56:50 there
03:56:50 and then you disengage
03:56:55 and so that’s that’s what I’ve learned
03:56:58 to do with a lot of people
03:57:03 um like maybe for your depending how
03:57:06 much your family actually
03:57:09 um believes in the Book of Mormon
03:57:12 um
03:57:13 as in to abide by it like Joseph Smith
03:57:16 taught you can find it in the Book of
03:57:18 Mormon
03:57:20 yep and then show it to them there
03:57:23 um
03:57:24 and that’s actually one reason I I’ve
03:57:27 focused on the Book of Mormon a lot
03:57:28 through these years is
03:57:32 it really leaves them without excuse
03:57:36 because it doesn’t miss that The Book of
03:57:39 Mormons for us today so is that how is
03:57:42 it really forced today is it because
03:57:44 we’re supposed to abide by its precepts
03:57:46 oh wait I think Joseph Smith said that
03:57:49 um
03:57:52 teachers and the law
03:57:55 um yeah so I do find some statements
03:57:58 from that we have today are are
03:58:01 authentically from Joseph Smith not all
03:58:04 of them
03:58:05 but somehow yes
03:58:08 um
03:58:08 but
03:58:10 that’s one thing I’ve done
03:58:13 um and
03:58:17 though I have surprisingly have found
03:58:20 some people still have interesting
03:58:22 excuses which is my motivation for my
03:58:25 accept this and accept that post is
03:58:28 actually based on people’s excuses from
03:58:31 Book of Mormon verses but
03:58:34 um I I do think it still makes them
03:58:36 makes it harder and even if they may
03:58:39 come up with an excuse right then
03:58:41 because of their pride I still think it
03:58:44 will get them to cause to think about it
03:58:46 later
03:58:46 it’s
03:58:50 it’s right there in the Book of Mormon
03:58:52 so yeah yeah
03:58:57 well I just uh I just felt impressed to
03:59:00 go through the Hebrew gospels since
03:59:02 Stephen was a little disabled that would
03:59:05 just be really really good for everybody
03:59:08 who came yeah I I missed half of it but
03:59:12 what I heard was really good and I like
03:59:15 all the things that you guys touched on
03:59:17 tonight it was really good
03:59:19 um
03:59:20 you know yeah I the one thing I like
03:59:23 about them is that instead of going
03:59:25 through multiple translations
03:59:27 uh especially those who are generally
03:59:31 translating uh the Hebrew gospels
03:59:33 generally understand the law more
03:59:36 than
03:59:37 um
03:59:39 then the Gentiles who did the King James
03:59:42 version which I would say even some of
03:59:45 them
03:59:46 uh had
03:59:47 alternative motives to translations that
03:59:50 they did
03:59:51 um
03:59:52 so
03:59:54 yeah
03:59:55 translation is a tricky thing and but
03:59:58 I’ll just say it now and I’ll probably
03:59:59 bring it up again
04:00:00 next week but when I Was preparing notes
04:00:03 for
04:00:05 um DNC 128 which Ben helped me a little
04:00:08 bit on a couple points one had to do
04:00:11 with uh was it Daniel seven
04:00:14 where there’s a phrase in there that a
04:00:16 lot of people will give restorationist
04:00:20 grief on
04:00:22 that it in in a verse it says says like
04:00:25 the son of man
04:00:27 um
04:00:29 and and having it being connected going
04:00:31 to the ancient one which we believe that
04:00:34 the restorationists are is Adam but that
04:00:39 likes on a man is confusing but
04:00:43 since Ben gave it to me while I was
04:00:45 working on the nose to double check on
04:00:46 my notes I had on a specific verse I
04:00:49 looked at that because I’m like ah
04:00:51 something’s weird here and guess what
04:00:54 that like has no underlining word in the
04:01:01 Aramaic to justify it that is a complete
04:01:06 translator bias okay
04:01:11 um and so you can see that in Bible Hub
04:01:13 and I’ll show it next week if I don’t
04:01:16 have problems like I did this week
04:01:18 There’s a little side note on that
04:01:20 version that’s something uh Ben helped
04:01:22 me on
04:01:24 um on that one he gave me yeah
04:01:29 deep into the Hebrew
04:01:33 maybe I may never come out
04:01:36 but it’s just it to me it gives a lot of
04:01:40 credence to the article face as far as
04:01:43 it’s translated correctly because
04:01:46 um the only justification that in
04:01:48 Aramaic you can get
04:01:50 for that as son of man but they added
04:01:53 the word like
04:01:55 to justify their bias because there’s no
04:01:58 underlying word that justifies that
04:02:01 yep okay but everybody instead of
04:02:05 looking at the original language will go
04:02:07 off the what the English says and it
04:02:09 gives restoration is crap on that but
04:02:11 when you actually go to the original
04:02:14 uh array language
04:02:18 on Arabic Arabic
04:02:22 um there’s no justification for it right
04:02:25 okay no justification
04:02:26 mm-hmm
04:02:29 so it just increases that you know the
04:02:33 closer to the original you can get the
04:02:34 better
04:02:36 yeah yeah
04:02:37 you’ve gotta you gotta get back to
04:02:42 stand in order
04:02:43 as close to it as you can get because
04:02:45 there’s because the more steps that it
04:02:49 goes through the more the more
04:02:51 translation processes it goes through
04:02:54 the less reliable if it comes
04:02:58 just like the the
04:03:00 um
04:03:02 telephone game right yeah
04:03:05 for instance not even the Book of Mormon
04:03:08 is 100 reliable in terms of actually
04:03:11 being what Joseph Smith actually
04:03:13 translated yeah the the printer
04:03:16 um made some errors and he didn’t always
04:03:19 go by the manuscript he was given
04:03:22 um in fact on this
04:03:24 sometimes they some of the critics
04:03:28 um criticize for King James version
04:03:30 copies right well that’s because the
04:03:33 printer did that and you can confirm
04:03:35 that by looking at the printers
04:03:37 manuscript versus the 1830. okay
04:03:42 he and he even admits to this that at
04:03:44 times he just copied because the
04:03:46 manuscript she was given didn’t have
04:03:48 punctuation in it and that was hard
04:03:51 and so when you saw something close he
04:03:54 just went to the Bible and copied it
04:03:55 because that was easy
04:03:57 that makes sense
04:04:00 maliciously he was just trying to do his
04:04:03 job in a timely manner and I’m I’m sure
04:04:06 I I couldn’t go through the text really
04:04:09 quick and add punctuation to it that’s
04:04:11 not mine so I I I’m not trying to speak
04:04:15 bad on him just recognize what was going
04:04:17 on well and also recognize that if there
04:04:22 are any differences or anything
04:04:24 anything that seems unreconcilable
04:04:28 between the Book of Mormon text the
04:04:30 third Nephi 15.
04:04:33 and the 30 file a certainly file 11 12
04:04:38 and Matthew 5 in the Hebrew that the
04:04:42 reason for that is probably because
04:04:47 the printer just went ahead and copied
04:04:49 right out of the King James version as
04:04:52 much
04:04:54 um and if I we’d have to go look and if
04:04:58 someone wants to I have a link to start
04:05:00 on my web page to get there but I
04:05:04 believe that’s an area where we don’t
04:05:06 have
04:05:07 the original or printers manuscript to
04:05:10 check on them so
04:05:14 um we can’t say for sure
04:05:17 but
04:05:18 um
04:05:19 there’s
04:05:20 because of other instances of this same
04:05:23 type of thing it can be shown that so I
04:05:26 think it is very logical
04:05:28 to
04:05:29 assume that’s what’s going on there
04:05:31 right
04:05:35 yeah okay
04:05:37 but uh to to get the details on that
04:05:40 they’re on my blog on the right side
04:05:44 there’s the
04:05:46 uh very what is it variations Or the
04:05:50 critical text project that’s what it is
04:05:52 it’s the critical text project
04:05:54 okay
04:05:55 and it can be TR
04:05:59 don’t just go and read them okay use
04:06:02 them when you have something in question
04:06:04 because they’re kind of drawing
04:06:08 it’s it’s useful for when there’s
04:06:10 various technical questions of what’s
04:06:13 going on okay
04:06:15 most the time it’s minor things
04:06:18 occasionally it’s something significant
04:06:21 but
04:06:22 um yeah anyways it’s rare
04:06:27 okay
04:06:28 well I think I I think
04:06:33 so we’ve decided that we’re going to get
04:06:35 into the Lord of the Rings from uh
04:06:38 probably in a couple of weeks
04:06:41 yeah I just think uh next week probably
04:06:43 won’t happen because if we can do the
04:06:46 DNC sections like we’re hoping to I I
04:06:49 just think that’s going to take a while
04:06:50 so it’ll probably have to be the week
04:06:51 after that do the DNC sections and get
04:06:54 the seats started
04:06:58 do you want to do because it’d be nicer
04:07:02 so it stands to 127 to 128 and if you
04:07:06 want I I can give you my notes because I
04:07:09 I’m not trying to hide anything from
04:07:11 people in fact if you want my notes uh
04:07:14 you send me your email because 128 is
04:07:17 kind of a big one so that way you can be
04:07:19 more prepared and if you have questions
04:07:21 you can be more prepared to ask me
04:07:23 questions so I’m fine with that I’d like
04:07:26 to see the notes too
04:07:28 okay
04:07:30 um message me your email
04:07:32 and I’ll send and just remind me what
04:07:34 it’s for and I’ll I’ll give you my notes
04:07:38 um because I’m I’m I’m pretty open I
04:07:41 mean you can get to it already because
04:07:42 my window is out there for everybody to
04:07:44 get to
04:07:46 um to read I I share it read only
04:07:51 um but it’ll probably be easier if I
04:07:53 just uh email them to you guys because
04:07:56 it might be
04:07:57 uh
04:07:59 uh just because it’s there doesn’t mean
04:08:00 you know how to find it right yeah
04:08:03 because there’s a lot in there
04:08:06 like sometimes I have a hard time
04:08:08 finding my stuff in there
04:08:13 okay so it seems like
04:08:16 it seems to me like now is a good time
04:08:20 to say good night
04:08:22 sure
04:08:23 um so let’s stop the recording we should
04:08:26 probably do a prayer then
04:08:28 um so let me
04:08:31 stop
04:08:34 uh come on
04:08:37 oh there we go
04:08:39 um