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Looking into a doctrinal issue in 2 Thessalonians 2:11. Translators put their doctrinal bases into their translations. Joseph Smith did not correct all problems in the Bible, and that more will be done in Zion. Very low opinion of Brigham Young, so low it goes to hell. The mind tries to makes senses of things. It’s a dificult task to correct scriptures. Greek pempo = permit. D&C LDS 107 are to be checked by the members, D&C LDS 102 states the same thing if you believe it’s authentic. 1 Kings 12:28 is repeat of the exodus with Moses, as it is happening again. Deuteronomy 29:13-20 is where Torah states this cures along with context. Moses was a restorationist. YHWH says the same to everyone. D&C LDS 121 reiterates the same curse from Torah and Tanak / Old Testament. People will be cut off for calling Joseph Smith a liar and rejecting what YHWH did through him. Joseph Smith was not perfect. YHWH should be our first concern. A little about the coming polar configuration and how it’s connected to the destruction before Yeshua’s second coming. Moses created a snake to put on a pole at YHWH’s command, it’s about worship not the image. I study about the Mighty and Strong One to help others to not be deceived by all the deceivers. D&C (LDS 35:4) (RLDS 34) (1833 37) (1835 11) (1844 11) [1830-12-07] Joseph Smith = Elijah. Our sins / disbelief is what causes the things of YHWH to be hidden from us. Malachi 4, D&C 2, in connection to Joseph Smith calling of the messenger / Elijah. 2 Nephi 28:14 good people are deceived by false teachers. Read the scriptures for what they actually say not what you have been taught they have been said. Scriptures teaches we need to reprove / call people to repentance. There are three baptisms. Sanctification in D&C 88:34-35. People run away their whole lives from YHWH why would they want Him once they are resurrected? Proxy baptisms for the dead people is false.

Links:

• MUCH vs ALL in LDS D&C 132:40
• D&C 1835 5 / 1844 5 / LDS 102 / RLDS 99
• The JST / Inspired Version and Only a Part
• King Brigham
• Greek: pempo (send -> permit)
• Polar Configuation
• Torah
• Tzitzit
• PaRDeS
• Mighty and Strong One
• Joseph Smith calling the Mighty and Strong One
• ALL Things You Should DO
• D&C 1844 105 / LDS 127 / RLDS 109 (baptisms for the dead)
• D&C 1844 106 / LDS 128 / RLDS 110 (baptisms for the dead)
• The Holy Spirit and The Holy Ghost are the Same (baptisms for the dead):

Notes:

D&C (LDS 35:4) (RLDS 34) (1833 37) (1835 11) (1844 11) [1830-12-07]
4 Thou [Sidney] art blessed, for thou [Sidney] shalt do great things. Behold thou [Sidney] wast sent forth, even as John, to prepare the way before me, and before Elijah [Joseph] which should come, and thou knewest it not.

D&C (LDS 35) (RLDS 34) (1833 37) (1835 11) (1844 11) [1830-12-07]
AA 1 Listen to the voice of the Lord [YHWH] your God [Elohim],
AB even Alpha and Omega,
AC the beginning and the end,
-BA whose course is one eternal round,
-BB the same today as yesterday, and forever.
–CA 2 I am Jesus [Yeshua] Christ [the Messiah],
–CB the Son of God [Elohim],
–CC who was crucified for the sins of the world,
—DA even as many as will believe on My [Yeshua] name [character],
—D-B that they may become the sons of God [Elohim],
—D–C even one in Me [YHWH]
—D–C as I [YHWH] am one in the Father,
—D-B as the Father is one in Me,
—DA that We may be one.
—-EA 3 Behold, verily, verily, I [YHWH] say unto my servant Sidney,
—-E-B I [YHWH] have looked upon thee and thy works.
—-E–CA I [YHWH] have heard thy [Sidney] prayers,
—-E–CB and prepared thee [Sidney] for a greater work.
—-E—D 4 Thou [Sidney] art blessed,
—-E—-E for thou [Sidney] shalt do great things.
—-E—D Behold thou [Sidney] wast sent forth,
—-E–C even as John, to prepare the way before me,
—-E-B and before Elijah [Joseph] which should come,
—-EA and thou [Sidney] knewest it not.
—–FA 5 Thou didst baptize by water unto repentance,
—–F-B but they received not the Holy Ghost [Spirit];
—–F–C 6 But now I [YHWH] give unto thee [Sidney] a commandment,
—–F–C that thou [Sidney] shalt baptize by water,
—–F-BA and they shall receive the Holy Ghost [Spirit]
—–F-BB by the laying on of the hands,
—–FA even as the apostles of old.
——GAA 7 And it shall come to pass that there shall [future]
——GAB be a great work in the land,
——GAC even among the Gentiles,
——G-BA for their folly and their abominations shall be made manifest
——G-BB in the eyes of all people.
——G–CA 8 For I am God [Elohim],
——G–C-B and mine arm is not shortened;
——G–C-B and I [YHWH] will show miracles, signs, and wonders,
——G–CA unto all those who believe on My [YHWH] name [character].
——G—D 9 And whoso shall ask it in My name [character] in faith,
——G–CA they shall cast out devils;
——G–C-B they shall heal the sick;
——G–C–C they shall cause the blind to receive their sight,
——G–C–C and the deaf to hear,
——G–C-B and the dumb to speak,
——G–CA and the lame to walk.
——G-BA 10 And the time speedily cometh [future]
——G-BB that great things are to be shown forth unto the children of men;
——GAA 11 But without faith shall not anything be shown forth
——GAB except desolations upon Babylon,
——GAC the same which has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
—–FAA 12 And there are none that doeth good except
—–FAB those who are ready to receive the fulness of My [YHWH] gospel,
—–FAC which I [YHWH] have sent forth unto this generation [believers].
—–F-BAA 13 Wherefore, I [YHWH] call upon the weak things of the world,
—–F-BAB those who are unlearned and despised,
—–F-BB to thresh the nations by the power of My [YHWH] spirit [Torah];
—–F–C 14 And their arm shall be My [YHWH] arm,
—–F—DA and I [YHWH] will be their shield and their buckler;
—–F—DB and I [YHWH] will gird up their loins,
—–F—-E and they shall fight manfully for Me [YHWH];
—–F—-E and their enemies shall be under their feet;
—–F—D and I [YHWH] will let fall the sword in their behalf,
—–F–C and by the fire of Mine [YHWH] indignation will I [YHWH] preserve them.
—–F-BA 15 And the poor and the meek
—–F-BB shall have the gospel preached unto them,
—–FAA and they shall be looking forth for the time of My [YHWH] coming,
—–FAB for it is nigh at hand—
—-EAA 16 And they shall learn the parable of the fig tree,
—-EAB for even now already summer [Pentecost = Torah] is nigh.
—-E-BA 17 And I [YHWH] have sent forth the fulness of My [YHWH] gospel
—-E-BB by the hand of My [YHWH] servant Joseph [Elijah];
—-E–C and in weakness have I [YHWH] blessed him [Joseph];
—-E—D 18 And I [YHWH] have given unto him [Joseph] the keys of the mystery
—-E—-E of those things which have been sealed,
—-E—-E even things which were from the foundation of the world,
—-E—D and the things which shall come from this time until the time of My [YHWH] coming,
—-E–CA if he [Joseph] abide in Me [YHWH],
—-E–CB and if not, another will I [YHWH] plant in his [Joseph] stead.
—-E-BA 19 Wherefore, watch over him [Joseph]
—-E-BB that his [Joseph] faith fail not,
—-EAA and it shall be given by the Comforter,
—-EAB the Holy Ghost [Spirit],
—-EAC that knoweth all things [Torah].
—DA 20 And a commandment I give unto thee—
—D-B that thou [Sidney] shalt write for him [Joseph];
—D-B and the scriptures shall be given,
—D-B even as they are in Mine [YHWH] own bosom,
—D-B to the salvation of Mine [YHWH] own elect;
—D–CA 21 For they will hear My [YHWH] voice,
—D–C-B and shall see Me [YHWH],
—D–C–C and shall not be asleep,
—D–C-B and shall abide the day of My [YHWH] coming;
—D–CAA for they shall be purified [sanctified],
—D–CAB even as I [YHW] am pure [sanctified].
—D-B 22 And now I [YHWH] say unto you [Sidney],
—D-B tarry with him [Joseph],
—D-B and he [Joseph] shall journey with you;
—D-B forsake him [Joseph] not,
—DA and surely these things shall be fulfilled.
–CA 23 And inasmuch as ye [Sidney] do not write,
–C-B behold, it shall be given unto him [Joseph] to prophesy;
–C–C and thou [Sidney] shalt preach My [YHWH] gospel
–C—D and call on the holy prophets to prove his [Joseph] words,
–C—-E as they shall be given him [Joseph].
–C—–F 24 Keep all the commandments and covenants by which ye [Sidney] are bound;
–C—-E and I [YHWH] will cause the heavens to shake for your [Sidney] good,
–C—D and Satan shall tremble and Zion shall rejoice upon the hills and flourish;
–C–C 25 And Israel shall be saved in Mine [YHWH] own due time;
–C-B and by the keys which I [YHWH] have given shall they be led,
–CA and no more be confounded at all.
-BB 26 Lift up your hearts and be glad,
-BA your redemption draweth nigh.
AA 27 Fear not, little flock, the kingdom is yours until I [YHWH] come.
AB Behold, I [YHWH] come quickly.
AC Even so. Amen.

Transcript:

00:00:02 okay well I wanted to share this today I
00:00:05 mean we looked at this a while back and
00:00:08 this is something that Zach found which
00:00:10 I think is a good thing that he found so
00:00:14 we’re gonna look at um 2
00:00:18 Thessalonians
00:00:20 211 uh and then talk about
00:00:23 why Zach was like something’s wrong here
00:00:27 and he was right um and then what we did
00:00:29 to look into it so this is somewhat of a
00:00:32 repeat of what we’ve done before but I
00:00:34 think this is an important thing to
00:00:35 bring out because we shouldn’t take
00:00:40 translations just on face value we
00:00:43 should if there’s something that wrong
00:00:46 we should look into it yeah and I I this
00:00:49 brings up the point that I often bring
00:00:51 out and that is that the acceptance of a
00:00:55 translation is the acceptance of that
00:00:58 theology yes I agree
00:01:00 um now so the only translation you want
00:01:04 is to go back as close to the original
00:01:07 intent as possible right right and I
00:01:11 will admit it’s hard to do that with
00:01:13 everything but this is where um the more
00:01:17 we know and understand things the more
00:01:19 we’ll be able to catch things like this
00:01:21 and then then go look into it or ask
00:01:24 somebody right uh which I am very happy
00:01:28 that Zach did that
00:01:30 right uh it I it’s I’m trying to
00:01:36 uh uh I know I can’t think of the word
00:01:39 right now but anyways give credit where
00:01:42 give credit where it’s to yeah yes um
00:01:45 but yes
00:01:46 translation uh uh have biases for sure
00:01:50 and which then because of the biases a
00:01:53 lot of them all go off of
00:01:55 Doctrine right and also um in the main
00:02:00 thing and
00:02:02 unfortunately uh later translations
00:02:04 often repeat the errors of earlier
00:02:08 translations right yes I think some of
00:02:10 it is because they don’t want
00:02:12 to cause issues with people and they
00:02:18 don’t want to deal with it um where this
00:02:21 is where they should have notes on why
00:02:22 they did translated in particular way
00:02:24 but
00:02:25 anyways um if translators are not or
00:02:30 don’t have the courage to translate the
00:02:32 way it should be they shouldn’t be
00:02:36 translators right um but yes a lot of
00:02:40 translators will copy the ideas in
00:02:42 previous translations and just maybe
00:02:44 word it a little different instead of
00:02:46 looking at the original text and letting
00:02:48 it say what it actually says right and
00:02:52 this is a case in this
00:02:54 particular uh the error has been
00:02:57 perpetuated through many translations
00:03:00 and in this particular verse we
00:03:03 have yeah and when we go look at Bible
00:03:05 Hub we’ll see that the use of modern
00:03:08 Scholastic tools you can actually
00:03:11 find you could actually find the error
00:03:14 and sort it out yeah it’s it it wasn’t
00:03:18 too bad to figure out but took a little
00:03:21 bit but
00:03:22 anyways Zach you want to read the verse
00:03:26 second Thessalonians that’s a big word
00:03:29 to
00:03:31 sorry
00:03:33 yeah for this cause elim shall send some
00:03:38 strong delusion that they should believe
00:03:39 a lie okay well wait a minute um Zach
00:03:43 you willing to talk about why you had an
00:03:46 issue with
00:03:47 that I to say something real
00:03:53 quick Elohim
00:03:56 doesn’t send Illusions yeah
00:04:00 lie he’s a god of Truth and cannot lie
00:04:03 right right yeah and so I think this was
00:04:06 a good good find because a delusion is a
00:04:09 lie and um fact let’s go do this real
00:04:13 quick uh
00:04:17 ether three or four um I’m gonna take a
00:04:21 guess
00:04:23 four you’re in third Nei oh uh yeah it
00:04:28 would help if I did what I said right
00:04:31 yeah yeah I mean it’s I did that on
00:04:33 purpose to teach that principal do what
00:04:35 you say yeah yeah that that’s it I
00:04:39 believe you st yeah I’m such a joker
00:04:44 okay so I think it’s this chapter three
00:04:47 oh yeah here we go
00:04:50 so this is Brother of
00:04:53 Jared um just before he sees yahweh’s
00:04:58 finger and this and just a little bit
00:05:00 after that his whole body right but
00:05:03 going through
00:05:05 here him
00:05:06 [Music]
00:05:08 and Yahweh are having a little
00:05:10 discussion um I don’t know how per just
00:05:13 go through all of it part of the part of
00:05:15 the faith part of Faith Like onto the
00:05:17 brother of Jared which is spoken of in
00:05:19 uh
00:05:20 by
00:05:21 um I believe either Mormon or
00:05:25 Moroni
00:05:28 uh in the in their in in the book of
00:05:31 Moroni I believe is that um this is part
00:05:36 of it knowing the nature of God um and
00:05:41 being able to and and having that
00:05:43 perfect trust in him as is evidenced
00:05:46 here in verse 12 uh where he says and he
00:05:48 answered yay Lord I know that thou
00:05:52 speakest the truth for thou art a god of
00:05:56 Truth and can not and can canot or and
00:06:03 can which is just it’s Old English for
00:06:06 canot you cannot
00:06:10 lie and so that’s uh that is the so this
00:06:15 is the thing is he can’t lie so how is
00:06:18 he how is God going to send a strong
00:06:20 delusion if he can’t If he if he can’t
00:06:23 lie that’s part of what makes him God
00:06:26 right right and then on top of that
00:06:30 um it would be an unjust God because you
00:06:33 go we go look at verse 12 they all might
00:06:36 be damned who believed not the truth now
00:06:41 it could not be a just
00:06:43 Elohim for someone to go send out a lie
00:06:47 and expect people to believe what he
00:06:49 says and then damn them who believe
00:06:52 something that he said himself right now
00:06:56 now you know this is and this is the
00:06:58 thing is
00:07:00 lots of people who publish lies in in
00:07:04 the name of or the or in Elohim or in
00:07:09 the name of
00:07:10 Elohim um
00:07:13 however um those are people who are
00:07:17 publishing lines so yes where is this
00:07:20 that says that God where how can God
00:07:23 send out the strong delusion these are
00:07:26 just people speaking in his
00:07:28 name right all right so um
00:07:32 so let’s go look at this in the
00:07:35 jst that’s a good practice let me pause
00:07:38 while Kindle’s coming
00:07:41 out okay so here’s the
00:07:44 jst uh Joseph Smith did not correct this
00:07:49 interesting enough he did correct some
00:07:51 stuff up above it but I’ll be honest
00:07:55 that doesn’t bother
00:07:56 me uh he didn’t correct anything after
00:08:00 so who knows maybe he got interrupted
00:08:02 here and couldn’t finish the chapter I
00:08:05 don’t know even if he didn’t finish just
00:08:07 assumed he was done with the
00:08:09 chapter right I I I’m but either way I’m
00:08:12 not
00:08:13 worried um Joseph get everything he
00:08:17 didn’t get Joseph Smith did not correct
00:08:19 everything that needs to be corrected
00:08:21 nor did he restore the entirety of the
00:08:23 Gospel nor was he supposed to right
00:08:25 right in fact um he did bring he did
00:08:29 bring into being that by which we can
00:08:33 find the fullness of the Gospel yes yeah
00:08:37 um so uh I have a post called much
00:08:41 versus all that brings out how from The
00:08:43 Book of Mormon first5
00:08:46 13 how uh Joseph Smith was not to
00:08:50 restore
00:08:52 everything um and then also um let me
00:08:55 get a quote specifically about the jst
00:08:58 um hold on let me get buttons
00:09:02 buttons lots of buttons
00:09:06 um so
00:09:08 [Music]
00:09:14 seeking um okay so let me pause to find
00:09:17 the exact
00:09:20 quote okay so I found the
00:09:23 quote
00:09:25 um so this is Joseph
00:09:27 Smith um and it’s in church history he
00:09:31 States I completed the translation and
00:09:34 review of the New Testament of the
00:09:38 second on the 2nd of February 1833 and
00:09:42 sealed or confirmed and strengthened it
00:09:45 up no more to be opened or revealed
00:09:49 until it arrive in Zion so he’s talking
00:09:52 about the new translation
00:09:56 here and so he was done with the
00:09:59 translation himself and he
00:10:02 says no more until arrived in Zion as in
00:10:08 he understands that there’s more
00:10:10 Corrections than that he was to do
00:10:12 himself right yes because he gives a he
00:10:16 gives a uh a point at which more will be
00:10:20 at which more will
00:10:22 come yes okay so what what he
00:10:26 establishes by his own mouth is that
00:10:29 this trans that this uh inspired that
00:10:33 the inspired version is not yet complete
00:10:37 correct um but it is good because there
00:10:42 uh let me go back to that there’s three
00:10:45 places in the
00:10:47 DNC that
00:10:50 um Yahweh says
00:10:54 publish
00:10:56 yes uh let’s see well there ‘s one of
00:10:59 them but that’s probably not the one I
00:11:03 want yeah okay so here they are um oh
00:11:08 it’s this ones before
00:11:09 DNC
00:11:11 9410 DNC
00:11:14 10458 if you accept DNC 124 as valid
00:11:19 which I do
00:11:21 not
00:11:24 um but if you did uh DNC 124 stat it
00:11:29 should be published so um there’s three
00:11:33 sections in the DNC but the fact three
00:11:37 depending on where you stand on some of
00:11:38 those controversies right and the fact
00:11:40 that it wasn’t would be if you believe
00:11:44 in section 124 the fact that it wasn’t
00:11:46 published until after Joseph’s death is
00:11:49 another point of
00:11:51 damnation for the LDS church oh yeah in
00:11:55 fact on that point at the beginning of
00:11:57 this post I bring out how Brigham Young
00:12:01 wanted it burned he did not like it and
00:12:05 even bring out a quote how it it
00:12:07 admitted that the jst is going against
00:12:10 the doctrines that briam young taught so
00:12:14 uh this is a good post I highly
00:12:16 recommend it of course I know I’m bi
00:12:19 even though the person who is admitting
00:12:20 this is doing it in a cowardly way that
00:12:23 makes it seem like
00:12:25 the translation is an error when it’s
00:12:29 actually Brigham Young who was grossly
00:12:32 in error correct uh I I like the grossly
00:12:37 part right um okay so let’s
00:12:41 go it’s a there’s there’s a reason why I
00:12:44 chose to use that particular word yeah
00:12:46 yeah yeah that’s a polite way of saying
00:12:48 it I I have a not so polite way of
00:12:50 saying it anyways um so it there’s no
00:12:54 jst for it
00:12:56 but I he wasn’t supposed to correct
00:13:00 everything okay this so this doesn’t
00:13:02 present us with a problem in believing
00:13:04 in the inspired version no and and also
00:13:07 um there’s things in the scriptures uh
00:13:11 like ether three that we just went over
00:13:15 that shows that there’s a problem here
00:13:17 right so right because the way that you
00:13:20 need to look at the word of God is in a
00:13:22 way to harmonize the less easy to
00:13:26 understand versus with the easy to
00:13:28 understand versus
00:13:30 correct um not everything’s a mystery
00:13:33 and I I
00:13:35 believe uh sometimes why Joseph Smith
00:13:38 didn’t correct everything is because
00:13:39 well he was a busy man running a
00:13:42 church um and and to do things really
00:13:44 thoroughly takes a lot of time
00:13:48 okay um and
00:13:51 then in a minute and so I I do believe
00:13:55 the ones that he’ve done that he did
00:13:57 correct are high priority ones that he
00:14:00 corrected not okay so but let’s go look
00:14:04 at this verse in Bible Hub because that
00:14:07 the Bible Hub has the answer on this one
00:14:10 yes it’s going back as close as possible
00:14:14 to the original language in this
00:14:16 instance or to the uh to the earliest
00:14:19 manuscripts available that actually
00:14:21 provides us with the
00:14:25 um and knowing the knowing the def and
00:14:28 learning the definitions of the
00:14:30 words that actually provides us with the
00:14:34 answer to this
00:14:36 conundrum which it turns which it turns
00:14:38 out was something that my mind was
00:14:40 already doing already and so I had
00:14:42 that’s why I didn’t catch it because my
00:14:44 mind was already just jumping to this
00:14:46 sure sure sure and that’s fine and but
00:14:48 and and this is why um correcting texts
00:14:54 is tricky as the example with Ben brings
00:14:57 out I’m sure I’ve done done that too
00:14:59 right yeah but when in fact there’s this
00:15:04 world today’s world is loves meemes
00:15:07 right to go along with that there’s
00:15:09 memes out there where they’ll leave
00:15:11 letters out and misspell but everybody
00:15:14 can read it just fine because our
00:15:17 mind uh takes what we see and filters it
00:15:21 some and tries to make sense out of it
00:15:26 right and in a lot of cases it does a
00:15:29 very good job yeah but not in every case
00:15:32 so this um I’m just bringing out how
00:15:37 St
00:15:39 it’s not
00:15:41 easy to go correct things um especially
00:15:47 the level of scriptures or what is
00:15:49 considered scriptures it’s something you
00:15:52 want to be very careful with right yeah
00:15:54 it’s not easy necessarily to get back to
00:15:57 the original intent but you can use your
00:16:01 other you can use your other scriptures
00:16:03 that are plain to be that are plain as
00:16:07 day to uh that to
00:16:12 um against which to bounce things off
00:16:15 sometimes it’s and sometimes
00:16:16 harmonization is a is a good way for
00:16:19 finding sometimes you got to get back
00:16:21 you got to get back to the Lang got to
00:16:23 get back in the language so uh right and
00:16:27 and when I was looking at this it took
00:16:28 me a little while to figure it out
00:16:30 because I I was looking at every word
00:16:32 and thinking thinking it through so we
00:16:34 won’t go through all that thinking we’ll
00:16:37 just go over the
00:16:39 conclusion uh and the fix is the word
00:16:43 that’s being translated is
00:16:45 send so sometime oh it’s not doing the
00:16:48 hover anyway so we’ll click on the word
00:16:50 send so that way we can go look at the
00:16:51 Greek word under it
00:16:55 okay uh you want to I’m not even going
00:16:58 to to say the Greek you want to the
00:17:00 Greek word is the Greek word is
00:17:03 pimpo which
00:17:06 means um wi which means of course to
00:17:10 send but it also means I send it means
00:17:13 transmit it also means permit to
00:17:20 go so what we have here so this actually
00:17:24 explains why so many of the why the
00:17:27 strong delusion has been put out
00:17:30 by this actually kind of explains that
00:17:32 verse because the strong delusion has
00:17:35 been
00:17:36 perpetuated by those who profess to
00:17:39 speak in the name of Y right right so I
00:17:42 the answer to this little riddle here is
00:17:46 the definition permit okay yeah permit
00:17:50 to go permit to go forth uh so Zack real
00:17:54 quick um sorry to interrupt you Ben but
00:17:57 uh Zack you going to read the verse
00:17:59 again in the Brian standard because
00:18:01 that’s just where we’re at with the
00:18:03 understanding that the better
00:18:04 translation of that Greek word pimp I
00:18:08 yeah sorry pimpo pimpo yes pimpo is
00:18:16 permit for this reason s no not permit
00:18:22 permit a powerful delusion so that they
00:18:25 believe the
00:18:26 lie so that that actually uh and let’s
00:18:31 oh wait wait Ben might want to say
00:18:32 something so I’ll let him go first so so
00:18:35 this answers that question so this I
00:18:38 will permit to go I will permit I will
00:18:42 permit a powerful delusion to go forth
00:18:46 that they may believe the lie this this
00:18:49 explains this actually answers speaks to
00:18:53 that question
00:18:55 of well why is that the truth and what
00:18:59 is taught in mainstream churches are two
00:19:02 different
00:19:05 things and the answer to that is because
00:19:09 God permitted those people who pretended
00:19:12 to speak in his name to do what they did
00:19:17 right and we had the
00:19:22 responsibility to check them right uh
00:19:25 acts 17 is one example from the Bible
00:19:29 and DNC 107 I think for restoration
00:19:35 scriptures let me go check yeah I mean
00:19:38 yeah look look up DNC look up the
00:19:41 doctrine of covenants one uh but yeah I
00:19:44 I think that um you know I think it’s
00:19:47 really important that we realize that we
00:19:50 have the responsibility to check
00:19:55 them uh to check the word that is given
00:19:57 to us by by these supposed Min by these
00:20:00 supposed ministers from
00:20:02 yel y so I did remember Authority they
00:20:06 claim their Authority in his name yeah
00:20:08 yeah so DNC
00:20:10 107 uh
00:20:12 79 through 84 does bring out how members
00:20:15 are to keep leaders in check on do mind
00:20:18 if I read that yeah go ahead and the
00:20:21 presidency of the Council of the high
00:20:23 priesthood shall have power to call
00:20:25 other high priests even 12 to assist as
00:20:29 counselors and thus the presidency of
00:20:31 the high priesthood and its counselors
00:20:33 shall have power to decide upon
00:20:35 testimony according to the laws of the
00:20:37 church and after this decision it shall
00:20:40 be had in remembrance no more before the
00:20:42 Lord for this is the highest Council of
00:20:45 the Church of God and a final decision
00:20:47 upon controversies and spiritual matters
00:20:51 there is not any person belonging to the
00:20:53 church who is exempt from this there is
00:20:57 not any person belonging to the church
00:21:00 who is exempt is the president a person
00:21:03 of the church I let me um yes oh yeah he
00:21:07 is much as a president of the high
00:21:09 priesthood shall
00:21:12 transgress be had in remembrance before
00:21:15 the common Council of the
00:21:19 church who shall be assisted by 12
00:21:22 counselors of the high priesthood and in
00:21:24 their decision upon and their decision
00:21:26 upon his head shall be an end of
00:21:29 controversy concerning him thus None
00:21:33 Shall be Exempted from the Justice of
00:21:35 the laws of God that all things may be
00:21:38 done in order and in solemnity before
00:21:41 him according to truth and righteousness
00:21:44 so here’s the thing if if at any if at
00:21:49 any time the members of the uh the
00:21:53 members of the early church had actually
00:21:55 paid attention to the revelations that
00:21:56 were given to them instead of trying to
00:21:59 make instead of trying to make stuff up
00:22:01 that goes against the
00:22:03 scriptures um they would have
00:22:07 uh they would have been able to catch
00:22:10 many of these people who caused problems
00:22:14 in Doctrine such as Brigham Young such
00:22:17 as um you know such as the Higg Brothers
00:22:21 such
00:22:23 as you know the all of a lot of these
00:22:26 people
00:22:29 created issues that did not ex that did
00:22:32 not need to exist because the members of
00:22:34 the church would not do their
00:22:39 Duty yep I I I I completely agree um so
00:22:44 here’s another
00:22:45 one the I want to site that oh no okay
00:22:49 we’ll leave it alone I was gonna say
00:22:50 though I I don’t believe this verse is
00:22:54 authentic um but if you do DNC 102 28
00:22:58 we’ll just leave it at that uh says the
00:23:01 same thing um I Ben and I do not believe
00:23:05 this section is authentic as from last
00:23:08 night actually yeah we don’t we don’t
00:23:10 believe that we don’t we definitely
00:23:12 don’t believe that it was Revelation and
00:23:13 the reason why we don’t believe that
00:23:15 it’s Revelation is because of variances
00:23:18 between uh number one variances between
00:23:21 recordings which in variances between
00:23:24 the first yeah notes and the revised
00:23:28 notes which indicate that which are
00:23:32 significant enough to indicate that
00:23:34 nobody understood that what was being
00:23:37 taught yeah and just bad notes just
00:23:40 period but bad it’s just bad notes so so
00:23:45 why should bad notes be considered
00:23:50 binding um Upon Us spiritually no they
00:23:54 shouldn’t um and it’s by Revelation that
00:23:57 those things are B not an an inspiration
00:23:59 not minute notes that you’re uh uh
00:24:04 trying to scramble together and change
00:24:06 it actually contradicts what you had
00:24:08 before and all that jazz but anyways um
00:24:10 if you do believe 102 is authentic
00:24:13 there’s another verse for you that
00:24:15 teaches the same
00:24:16 thing but I will I will say this if you
00:24:21 that if upon look that if upon looking
00:24:23 into the source material for 102 you
00:24:25 believe it is authentic that you
00:24:26 probably need to have your head checked
00:24:28 yeah and I have a little page that will
00:24:31 make it easy for you so anyways I’ll put
00:24:33 that in the notes um so enough of that
00:24:37 so
00:24:39 um the one thing I wanted to bring out
00:24:42 which we may have already talked about
00:24:44 but I’ll just bring it out again just in
00:24:46 case is
00:24:49 Yahweh gives everyone
00:24:52 agency and sometimes well maybe not
00:24:55 sometimes most the time people misuse
00:24:57 their agency which includes lying to
00:25:00 other people and causing deceptions and
00:25:03 delusions to happen IE speaking in the
00:25:06 name of Yahweh that which is not his
00:25:08 mind and will which is taking the lord’s
00:25:11 name in vain um one of the ways to do
00:25:14 that anyways yes there is there are no
00:25:18 there are very few I shall say because
00:25:21 no is a really is a little too strong
00:25:25 but there are very few Prof of those who
00:25:28 profess to teach y’s ways who have not
00:25:31 taken his name in
00:25:34 pain
00:25:39 y okay so I do think looking at the
00:25:43 Greek word behind the word
00:25:45 send uh what P oh
00:25:51 lovely pimpo pimpo pimpo uh resolves the
00:25:56 issue emphasis the emphasis is on the
00:25:59 ultimate syllable the ending syllable so
00:26:01 it’s p i see the accent I’m just um tell
00:26:05 me that and then having my mouth do it
00:26:08 are two different things just so you’re
00:26:09 aware I have a speech impediment gotta
00:26:11 um but anyways uh but thank you for
00:26:14 trying
00:26:16 um this goes along with translator bias
00:26:20 going on um which the which when you
00:26:25 which with the
00:26:28 with knowing that there is another way
00:26:30 to define that and knowing what is
00:26:34 revealed to us in other scriptures when
00:26:36 you seek to harmonize the scriptures
00:26:39 with each other instead of pit them
00:26:41 against one
00:26:43 another then God is not sending strong
00:26:46 delusion but he’s permitting strong
00:26:48 delusion to go forth among those who
00:26:50 will not believe the truth right so I
00:26:54 think that is a good ending for this
00:26:57 little subject
00:26:58 right yeah I think so all right so I’m G
00:27:01 to
00:27:03 pause so I was reading in First Kings
00:27:07 this week in the
00:27:09 Tanakh um and noticed really and so how
00:27:14 I look at the Tanakh is
00:27:18 a for those who don’t know the Tanakh is
00:27:21 another way of saying the Old Testament
00:27:23 okay right the Old Testament that is not
00:27:26 necessarily that is not not the prophets
00:27:28 I haven’t had any by
00:27:30 the um stands for Torah prophets and
00:27:35 writings um and just just since we’re
00:27:39 sidetracking a little bit I will also
00:27:41 say uh as I bring up my jst post that is
00:27:46 something that was added or designated
00:27:50 that way later and it wasn’t that way in
00:27:52 600 BC when Lehi and his family left
00:27:59 so so um anyway
00:28:03 so I was reading First Kings this week
00:28:08 uh and basically reading
00:28:11 where the 10
00:28:14 tribes are really feeling the pinch from
00:28:19 King Solomon who has forgotten God he
00:28:23 started off really really righteous
00:28:26 doing all the things that God asked of
00:28:28 him to do
00:28:30 or
00:28:32 Elohim asked him to do Yahweh asked him
00:28:35 to do he was true and
00:28:38 faithful but then in his old
00:28:42 age he started embracing the gods of his
00:28:47 wives and as a result God and concubines
00:28:50 because he had those two yes wives and
00:28:52 concubines over almost a
00:28:54 thousand um to be uh or as stated in uh
00:29:00 First
00:29:01 Kings
00:29:03 um he then goes to jobel and says I will
00:29:10 make you a king I will make you a king
00:29:12 over
00:29:13 Israel but I’ve made a promise to David
00:29:16 that he will still rule that his
00:29:19 descendants will still rule over the
00:29:22 city of Jerusalem and the house of
00:29:25 Judah um but Ben Benjamin also kind
00:29:30 of with Judah the tribe of Ben stays
00:29:33 with Judah and there’s there’s reasons
00:29:35 for that but anyways yeah um
00:29:40 so the House of David will rule over
00:29:42 Judah and Benjamin and he will rule over
00:29:46 the 10 tribe Jobo will rule over the 10
00:29:49 tribes or I should say
00:29:51 yob
00:29:53 um so this is just a little hisory
00:29:58 hisory uh leading up to the point that I
00:30:00 wanted to make and that
00:30:03 is y does not stay true and faithful to
00:30:09 Yahweh he goes and he
00:30:12 creates idols and there’s a telling
00:30:15 thing in here so one one thing maybe if
00:30:18 I can interject real quick this how he
00:30:21 was righteous at first and then became
00:30:23 Wicked goes along with DNC 1221 right
00:30:26 yes it says uh good good plot good good
00:30:30 good uh good statement good statement so
00:30:34 uh I’m going to go ahead and start
00:30:36 reading in First Kings chapter 12 and
00:30:40 we’re going to start
00:30:43 um we’re going to start in verse 21 just
00:30:47 to give us some
00:30:49 context um as
00:30:52 to uh as to leading into the verse of
00:30:56 scripture okay uh that is really telling
00:31:01 verse 21 and when
00:31:03 re was come to to
00:31:07 Jerusalem he assembled all the house of
00:31:09 yudah with the Tribe of
00:31:12 Benjamin
00:31:13 and4 score th000 chosen men which were
00:31:17 warriors to fight against the house of
00:31:18 Israel to bring the kingdom
00:31:22 again
00:31:24 yeah uh the son of Solomon but the word
00:31:27 of God came unto shemaya the son of the
00:31:31 man sorry the man of God saying Speak
00:31:35 unto reom the son of Solomon king of
00:31:38 yudah and unto all the house of yudah
00:31:41 and
00:31:42 Benjamin to Benyamin and to the remnant
00:31:46 of the people saying thus saith Yahweh
00:31:50 you shall not go up nor fight against
00:31:52 your brethren the children of
00:31:55 yesel return on every man to his house
00:31:58 for this thing is from me they hearken
00:32:02 therefore to the word of Yahweh and
00:32:05 returned to depart according to the word
00:32:09 of
00:32:11 Yahweh then y built sheim in Mount
00:32:17 Ephraim and dwelt therein and went from
00:32:20 then and built
00:32:22 huel and yam said in his heart now shall
00:32:27 the kingdom return to the House of David
00:32:30 if this people go up to do sacrifice in
00:32:32 the house of Yahweh at Jerusalem
00:32:37 Jerusalem
00:32:40 whatever then shall the heart of this
00:32:42 people turn again unto their unto their
00:32:46 Yahweh unto their lord I think that
00:32:49 one’s actual Lord not oh yeah sorry unto
00:32:52 their lord you’re right it’s not
00:32:53 capitalized sorry unto their lord even
00:32:56 unto and it’s also context yeah whatever
00:32:59 anyway even unto re king of yudah and
00:33:03 they shall kill him uh kill me and go
00:33:07 again to rabam king of
00:33:09 udah whereupon the king took counsel and
00:33:13 made two calves of gold so instead of
00:33:15 just one golden calf like the children
00:33:18 of Israel the base of Mount
00:33:20 Si he makes two golden calves well if
00:33:25 you’re going to do it you might as well
00:33:26 do it better
00:33:27 well that’s right and said unto them it
00:33:31 is too much for you to go up to
00:33:36 Jerusalem Behold thy Gods o
00:33:40 Israel which brought thee out up out of
00:33:43 the land of Egypt and
00:33:47 gods would
00:33:49 be uh would be Elohim I am pretty sure I
00:33:54 have yet to look at the uh well
00:33:58 do you want to do Bible Hub on your
00:34:00 screen or you want to do it on mine
00:34:02 yours I stopped sharing okay all right
00:34:05 so let me bring up Bible
00:34:17 Hub so that’s First Kings chapter
00:34:23 12
00:34:25 he
00:34:30 verse
00:34:50 28 so this is where another instance of
00:34:53 translator
00:34:54 bias yeah so here in fact here’s a
00:34:59 little this the these this part the nasb
00:35:03 transl
00:35:05 translation kind of
00:35:08 um it’s interesting because it gives
00:35:10 stats right yeah
00:35:14 2,326 times it’s God like uppercase God
00:35:19 okay oh and then plus some 14 and plus
00:35:23 45 anyways but here 200 four times it’s
00:35:28 ler Gods lowercase Gods right and so
00:35:34 this is translator
00:35:36 bias uh which I mean here I think it’s
00:35:40 fine I I may have done it differently if
00:35:43 I did it but that’s fine um but here um
00:35:49 anyways this is Elohim and so when we if
00:35:53 you want to go to Exodus we I I can
00:35:55 bring more out but I I I don’t know
00:35:57 where you want to take it let’s go let’s
00:35:58 go to Exodus because the point is is the
00:36:02 words used even though he’s got two
00:36:05 golden
00:36:07 calves the words used are exactly the
00:36:11 same as the rebellious children of yes
00:36:15 at the base of Mount Si right and so um
00:36:20 with Mount Si in mind uh they literally
00:36:24 were saying that calf
00:36:27 as they’re saying here because they’re
00:36:29 quoting it right um they’re saying the
00:36:33 calf is their
00:36:34 God yeah and it’s what took them out of
00:36:38 the land of Egypt as saying right there
00:36:42 um and so
00:36:44 they’re yeah they’re just saying the
00:36:47 calf is their God right which also goes
00:36:51 to show okay this is several hundred
00:36:55 years separated from when they actually
00:36:58 left
00:36:59 Jerusalem or sorry left Egypt right
00:37:03 thought hasn’t evolved much the thought
00:37:06 has not evolved at
00:37:08 all no in fact I I will say although
00:37:12 they’re not maybe not quoting these the
00:37:14 phrase exactly right that’s what’s going
00:37:18 on
00:37:19 today yeah very much so well Especial
00:37:24 and most particularly in Main
00:37:26 Christianity where they say where they
00:37:29 tell you to worship a God and follow in
00:37:32 his ways though those ways have been
00:37:34 nailed to a
00:37:36 cross right where it’s a different way
00:37:40 that apparently Yahweh turns to the left
00:37:43 and the right um which he actually
00:37:46 doesn’t
00:37:48 but that’s what people claim so this is
00:37:52 an interesting case
00:37:55 study uh from the Tanakh in support
00:38:02 of the law but notice but later
00:38:07 on jerob Jam’s house is completely wiped
00:38:12 off the face of the Earth
00:38:15 thus tying us back into Deuteronomy
00:38:19 chapter
00:38:20 29 yep okay so do you want to go look at
00:38:24 29 or do you want to go look at
00:38:27 Exodus I would be more prone to go
00:38:30 Deuteronomy but you’re you’re running it
00:38:32 but yeah let’s do Deuteronomy chapter 21
00:38:34 and also Doctrine and Covenant section
00:38:37 121 okay so which one you want to do M
00:38:41 Deuteronomy okay your screen or my
00:38:44 screen uh your
00:38:46 screen got it right you you’ve got
00:38:52 it but let’s go to the my point is let’s
00:38:56 let go to the law sure sure no no it’s
00:38:59 good to see it from the
00:39:07 law which ver specific I I know 29 has
00:39:10 to do with
00:39:11 curses right hold on hold on hold on you
00:39:15 have to start okay I’m gonna pause while
00:39:17 we find it
00:39:20 yes here is Deuteronomy chapter 29 and
00:39:24 we’re going to start in verse 13 to kind
00:39:26 of
00:39:27 highlight this idea
00:39:30 of the Covenant curse if you turned unto
00:39:34 other God what happens to you if you
00:39:38 turn to other gods other than
00:39:42 Yahweh that he may establish thee today
00:39:45 for a people unto himself that he may be
00:39:48 unto
00:39:53 thee a god a God right or him I mean we
00:39:57 check Bible but I think there’s no
00:39:59 question
00:40:01 that uh as he ha said unto thee and as
00:40:05 he hath sworn unto thy fathers to
00:40:07 Abraham to Isaac and to Jacob here we
00:40:10 see the
00:40:12 fathers neither with you only do I make
00:40:16 this Covenant and this oath but with him
00:40:18 that standeth here okay I see what we’re
00:40:21 seeing here in not only wait wait was uh
00:40:25 neither with you
00:40:27 only H it’s like this is maybe for maybe
00:40:31 how Yahweh says the same thing to
00:40:33 everyone maybe right but I I what I love
00:40:36 in 13 is that it really highlights that
00:40:39 this is a restoration of what Abraham
00:40:41 Isaac and Jacob yes right I I do believe
00:40:44 that Abraham was a
00:40:46 restorationist
00:40:48 yes neither with you only do I make this
00:40:52 Covenant and this oath but with him that
00:40:55 standeth here with with us in this day
00:40:58 before Yahweh AR Elohim and also with
00:41:02 him that is not here with us this day in
00:41:05 other words every person who will live
00:41:10 yes for you know how we have dwelt in
00:41:14 the land of Egypt and how we came
00:41:17 through the Nations which he passed by
00:41:19 now he’s drawing a
00:41:21 connection to this concept that we see
00:41:24 in First Kings and also in ex in the uh
00:41:28 Rebellion chapters of
00:41:30 Exodus and ye have seen their
00:41:33 Abominations and their Idols wood and
00:41:36 stone silver and gold which were among
00:41:39 them lest there should be among you man
00:41:43 or woman or family or tribe whose heart
00:41:46 turneth away this
00:41:47 day from Yahweh AR Elohim to go and
00:41:52 serve the gods of these nations lest
00:41:55 there should be among you a root that
00:41:57 beareth Gall and
00:42:00 wormwood and it C and it come to pass
00:42:03 when he heareth the words of this curse
00:42:06 that he bless himself in his heart
00:42:09 notice this is not Yahweh blessing him
00:42:13 blessing that person who turns away from
00:42:15 him it is the person himself saying I
00:42:19 shall have peace though I walk in the
00:42:21 imagination of Mine Heart to add
00:42:24 drunkenness to thirst
00:42:27 Yahweh will not spare him but then the
00:42:31 anger of Elohim and his
00:42:35 jeal that’s and his jealousy shall smoke
00:42:39 against that man and all the curses that
00:42:42 are written in this book shall lie upon
00:42:45 him and the Lord shall blot out his name
00:42:48 from under heaven so this means get and
00:42:52 this mean is literally saying that he
00:42:55 will destroy both both him and his
00:42:56 descendants leaving him neither root nor
00:43:00 branch which is what happened in First
00:43:03 Kings which is exactly what happened to
00:43:06 Yom and this act this threat is this
00:43:09 same promise the same curse is actually
00:43:12 reiterated in modern times Doctrine and
00:43:15 Covenants section 121 all right let’s go
00:43:21 there
00:43:25 okay
00:43:32 do you know where you want to start Ben
00:43:35 okay um stop recording real quick stop
00:43:38 recording let’s do a
00:43:43 control so it took us a little it took
00:43:45 us a little bit to find the exact verse
00:43:47 where I wanted to begin but we’ll start
00:43:49 in verse 11 of 121 and here here we’re
00:43:53 talking about um those who who are
00:43:56 fighting against Joseph Smith and the
00:43:58 restoration that he’s trying to bring
00:43:59 forth which uh which interestingly
00:44:03 enough um kind of fizzled out but we are
00:44:07 going to but let’s but let’s read this
00:44:10 section here as to the cursings from
00:44:13 Deuteronomy that are reiterated upon
00:44:15 those who have fought him and have
00:44:18 charged him with
00:44:20 transgression and they who do charge
00:44:22 thee with transgression their hope shall
00:44:24 be blasted in their prosp prospects
00:44:27 shall melt away as the hor Frost melted
00:44:31 away before the burning rays of the
00:44:32 Rising Sun this is talking about again
00:44:36 no posterity and also that God hath set
00:44:38 his hand to seal and seal to change the
00:44:41 times and Seasons bind their minds that
00:44:44 they may not understand His Marvelous
00:44:45 workings that he may prove them also and
00:44:48 take them in their own craftiness also
00:44:51 because their hearts are corrupted in
00:44:53 the things which they are willing to
00:44:55 bring upon others and love to have
00:44:57 others supper may come upon themselves
00:44:59 to the very uttermost that they may be
00:45:01 disappointed also and their hopes may be
00:45:03 cut off and not many years hence that
00:45:06 they in their posterity shall be swept
00:45:08 from under Heaven sayeth God that not
00:45:10 one of them is left to stand by the
00:45:13 wall and this is actually literally um
00:45:17 the same curse that was pronounced also
00:45:19 on Ahab and his house and
00:45:23 and and Y
00:45:26 right and one thing I will say this
00:45:28 includes those who claim Joseph Smith is
00:45:31 a liar and a fallen Prophet with their
00:45:33 false charges against him yes those who
00:45:37 those who charge him with transgression
00:45:40 now the thing is is that yes he was not
00:45:43 perfect oh no and we can go through the
00:45:46 DNC and show that but they’re they’re
00:45:51 charging him with things that he never
00:45:53 did they’re charging him with lying and
00:45:56 fraud and deceit and wait wait that
00:45:59 sounds an awful lot like bearing false
00:46:02 witness going against the
00:46:05 Covenant a piece of the Covenant of God
00:46:09 well and that’s part of one of the 10
00:46:11 divisions of Torah on right right and so
00:46:16 and and uh for this
00:46:20 um they will be swept from under
00:46:23 Heaven uh all those who
00:46:27 speak all those who speak against the
00:46:29 work which Joseph Smith began and was
00:46:32 never intended to
00:46:35 finish right yeah as in in first Nei 13
00:46:42 yeah much but not all yeah yeah and then
00:46:45 14 actually then if you know what you’re
00:46:48 looking at uh brings up the mining
00:46:50 strong one it’ll bring it all but
00:46:51 anyways this is an even
00:46:54 stronger uh
00:46:56 TI if you
00:46:59 wish if you wish to have the blessings
00:47:03 of
00:47:04 Yahweh and be a part of Zion you must
00:47:09 keep the 10 divisions or ten
00:47:14 commandments of
00:47:16 Torah there is no ifs ands or butts
00:47:19 because otherwise you will be
00:47:22 blasted and your you and your posterity
00:47:26 shall be swept from under heaven
00:47:31 when the stoning occurs as the planet as
00:47:35 Mars and Saturn come into a polar into
00:47:39 Polar configuration with the
00:47:42 Earth well I so uh small point I do
00:47:46 think Mars and Venus will come before
00:47:48 Saturn but anyways I well I agree I yeah
00:47:52 I see your point and and that’s but
00:47:55 Saturn will be coming so you’re
00:47:56 ultimately correct right but right but
00:47:59 yeah the stoning occurs at that time
00:48:01 when the polar configuration is brought
00:48:04 back into place and the and the Earth is
00:48:09 healed yep uh and there’s a lot of
00:48:13 things uh that goes along with the
00:48:16 prophecy
00:48:18 about uh the
00:48:21 Millennium that is answered by the
00:48:23 science that goes along with polar
00:48:25 configuration
00:48:26 and maybe one day I’ll finish my post
00:48:29 that gets into those
00:48:31 details so I I have been working on
00:48:34 posts so it’s not like I will be honest
00:48:37 though I do not find it any happy
00:48:43 coincidence that the very first
00:48:47 commandment that is
00:48:49 given is th Thou shalt have no other
00:48:53 Elohim before me
00:48:56 there shalt have no there he is Yahweh
00:49:01 and the second commandment is Thou shalt
00:49:03 not make any Graven image
00:49:07 yes and so now I I will say because I
00:49:11 know a lot of people will misinterpret
00:49:12 the second a lot that doesn’t mean you
00:49:16 can’t have make things like like this
00:49:20 Lego monkey that I have because I’m a I
00:49:24 I have this cuz I’m a sof ER and I think
00:49:26 it’s funny coding monkey but um that
00:49:29 doesn’t mean I can’t have a monkey or an
00:49:33 ox because that’s my
00:49:35 tribe
00:49:37 right um it’s the part that people
00:49:40 forget to
00:49:43 worship yes because uh Yahweh actually
00:49:47 commanded Moses to put a snake on a
00:49:51 staff right now the interesting so the
00:49:55 so this comes down to an interesting
00:49:57 point when it comes to
00:50:01 um say images of the sa images of
00:50:06 Yeshua um the question is do you worship
00:50:10 that image do you have that it it is the
00:50:13 same level of feeling connected with
00:50:15 that image that should be connected only
00:50:18 with the person of yes himself right I I
00:50:22 I know some people along those lines
00:50:23 will blot out actors that are supposed
00:50:26 to be representing Yeshua I don’t think
00:50:29 that’s necessary I think that’s the
00:50:32 question is is does the
00:50:35 image move your
00:50:37 Fidelity right that’s really yeah that’s
00:50:41 so I just wanted to go
00:50:43 ahead come on and share basically what
00:50:48 my study um and searching through the
00:50:53 law and the and the
00:50:56 tanak has uh really brought home to me
00:51:02 this
00:51:03 week no and thank you that that is a
00:51:06 good connection there just and just
00:51:09 before we leave off of this subject I
00:51:12 just want to add one thing about
00:51:17 images if you
00:51:20 could if you could honestly in your
00:51:23 heart discard IM any image of Yeshua
00:51:26 that you have in your house and still
00:51:28 feel connected to
00:51:32 Yeshua you still you are then you are
00:51:35 not worshiping that
00:51:41 image your heart is with Yeshua it’s not
00:51:45 with the image so that’s the question
00:51:47 that you need to ask yourself as you
00:51:49 look through yes as to look through your
00:51:51 house can I live without this would my
00:51:54 heart still be with Yeshua without this
00:51:57 do I need it and if not okay
00:52:02 H my heart my heart yeah I think that’s
00:52:05 a good point to bring out there there
00:52:07 are some things like tets that um were
00:52:11 commanded to have to help us remember
00:52:14 right now that’s not necessar that’s
00:52:17 one’s not to remember him but that one’s
00:52:19 to remember his
00:52:21 Commandments which is basically to
00:52:23 remember his character right which does
00:52:26 point to him as uh we should know right
00:52:31 because that um Yeshua as stated in John
00:52:35 one is the perfect
00:52:37 personification of his law his
00:52:41 Torah he was sinless otherwise you
00:52:44 couldn’t been the Savior
00:52:47 but so thank you for letting me share
00:52:50 this with you guys um no no thank you
00:52:53 for sharing um so let’s pause for a
00:53:00 minute okay so we we decided we’re going
00:53:04 to start talking about some maybe mining
00:53:06 strong ones that um I I notice as in
00:53:11 Josh puts it I’m obsessed with
00:53:13 him and I would probably agree with that
00:53:17 and my reasoning is to
00:53:20 help there’s so many claiming to be the
00:53:23 mining strong one nowadays that I um am
00:53:27 trying to help
00:53:29 people um not be deceived by the and I
00:53:35 too have a fascination with this
00:53:37 character
00:53:39 L both individually and as he fits into
00:53:44 the prophetic scheme as a
00:53:47 whole um and so it’s uh it’s really it’s
00:53:52 really in it’s he’s a he’s a really
00:53:55 fascinating character actually the in
00:53:58 Prophecy the mighty and strong one um
00:54:01 and what it is that he’s supposed to do
00:54:03 is um it it’s an incredible promise that
00:54:07 the Lord has given to us to to send us
00:54:10 one Mighty and strong right uh he he
00:54:14 he’s gonna get things ready for the
00:54:17 Millennium um so which is the Millennium
00:54:22 part I’m looking forward
00:54:23 to the getting there maybe not so much
00:54:28 yeah it yeah yeah Stevens told me he’s
00:54:31 not so fascinated with the whole
00:54:32 prophetic narrative on the whole because
00:54:34 it’s rather it the leading up days are
00:54:37 rather Grim well no that’s not
00:54:41 so the reason why I
00:54:44 haven’t put a lot of time in the
00:54:46 prophetic stuff is the stuff that
00:54:49 everybody says on it I have never really
00:54:53 been impressed with
00:54:55 and
00:54:58 I and I wasn’t ready to go figure out it
00:55:03 on my own at that time so I I I I do
00:55:07 some
00:55:08 now but it’s not my focus yeah and I
00:55:12 hope you appreciate that I was just kind
00:55:14 of gently oh yeah you’re hecko at me
00:55:16 that’s fine we hecko um it wasn’t
00:55:19 completely off it was a little twisted
00:55:24 Satan
00:55:26 anyways so but so along with the mining
00:55:29 strong one though there there’s a
00:55:30 pattern of three there’s the
00:55:34 Elijah the Elisha which is the mighty
00:55:38 and strong one and then the
00:55:41 Redeemer right uh and the mighty strong
00:55:45 one is the Elisha but Joseph Smith is an
00:55:50 Elijah and I have seen that in multiple
00:55:53 places but but I think I here in this
00:55:57 DNC section LDS 35 I found more support
00:56:02 for that in actual text rather than
00:56:05 General correlations okay yes
00:56:10 so first of all we’ll just look at the
00:56:12 verse where what I saw and then we can
00:56:16 look at the kism that I brought out
00:56:17 because of what I
00:56:19 saw but uh I do think the kism is sound
00:56:23 and not just something that I’m trying
00:56:25 to force and we can go through that but
00:56:28 anyways so verse four uh Zach you want
00:56:32 to read it for us oh H that’s not what I
00:56:36 wanted to do sorry that’s what I want to
00:56:39 do you want to read that for
00:56:43 us thou Sydney art blessed for thou
00:56:47 Sydney shall do great things behold thou
00:56:51 was sent forth even as John to prepare
00:56:54 the way before me
00:56:55 and before Elijah is Joseph which come
00:56:59 no NOS did not so this is saying Sydney
00:57:05 was I hate to use this but he was kind
00:57:09 of preparing before
00:57:12 the
00:57:14 the messenger the messenger which is the
00:57:18 Elijah um so kind of like the Elijah
00:57:21 before the Elijah I yeah some uh
00:57:26 Elisha’s before Elisha but because
00:57:28 that’s false but anyway so while Stephen
00:57:31 calls them the Elijah the Elisha and
00:57:35 um and um the Redeemer I tend
00:57:40 to or um yeah or I tend to call them the
00:57:46 messenger the uh the messenger the
00:57:48 preparer and the Redeemer and so that’s
00:57:51 that’s that’s my that’s how I have
00:57:55 always looked at this pattern of three
00:57:57 you have the messenger then you have the
00:57:58 preparer then you have the Redeemer of
00:58:00 the promise I do like Ben’s
00:58:03 categorizations though I I will say I’ve
00:58:06 been in the habit of those three
00:58:08 because of trying to figure things out
00:58:11 on my own before we got together that’s
00:58:14 the terms I used but I do like Ben’s
00:58:16 terms I just it’s a habit right right
00:58:20 right and so but I but I I just want to
00:58:22 bring that for bring forward those terms
00:58:25 as a enricher for the conversation the
00:58:29 idea of the messenger the preparer and
00:58:34 the Redeemer of the
00:58:36 promise right and um yeah anyways I I
00:58:40 just know in the scriptures they will a
00:58:43 lot of times use Elijah and Elisha as
00:58:45 they do they do and they do it here when
00:58:48 you realize when you realize the pattern
00:58:52 then you I mean it’s just such a
00:58:56 straightforward
00:59:00 um this equals this Joseph equals Elijah
00:59:04 right right now I can understand how uh
00:59:08 people may not believe me that Joseph
00:59:11 Smith is the modern modern day Elisha
00:59:15 okay now I I see it very plainly and
00:59:18 clear but I can understand uh people
00:59:21 saying I have a bias but so this this is
00:59:25 why I did the kism here to help show
00:59:28 that in the text so a big thing about
00:59:32 KMS is
00:59:33 that uh the
00:59:37 additional um instances of a particular
00:59:40 stanza are teaching the same thing right
00:59:45 so uh that verse that we just read is
00:59:51 part of this stanza here e St the e stza
00:59:55 of the py this kaym right and it’s a sub
01:00:01 kaym but Ben you want to read that and
01:00:04 and I don’t know if you want to go AA or
01:00:06 just read it straight through I I will
01:00:08 kind of I’ll I’ll kind of put breaks
01:00:12 where the new line is behold verily
01:00:15 verily
01:00:17 I say unto my servant
01:00:20 Sydney I yeh have looked upon thee and
01:00:24 thy works
01:00:26 i y have heard thy Sydney’s
01:00:32 prayers and prepared thee Sydney for a
01:00:35 greater
01:00:37 work thou Sydney art
01:00:40 blessed for thou Sydney shalt do great
01:00:45 things behold thou Sydney was sent
01:00:49 forth even as John to prepare the way
01:00:52 before
01:00:53 me
01:00:55 and before Elijah Joseph which should
01:00:58 come and thou Sydney knewest it not okay
01:01:03 so that’s the top e stanza wait wait
01:01:06 let’s talk about a little history first
01:01:08 if you don’t mind oh yes yes yes um and
01:01:11 Ben’s better at this on History than I
01:01:13 am but um so I don’t I’ll just maybe
01:01:16 start and let him finish Sydney was to
01:01:20 some degree teaching things or that were
01:01:23 at least close to what how Joseph Smith
01:01:27 restored things yeah Sydney Sydney
01:01:30 Rigden started off as a
01:01:34 um uh he he started off as a um as a
01:01:39 part of the campbellite
01:01:41 movement um and he was uh he he T he
01:01:45 taught very much back to the scriptures
01:01:48 style of gospel which prepared his
01:01:51 entire
01:01:53 congregation to
01:01:55 receive new scripture when it was given
01:01:58 to them because they knew what scripture
01:02:01 sounded like they saw the parallels how
01:02:05 they were teaching they saw the
01:02:07 parallels in the Book of Mormon to what
01:02:09 they were used to receiving from Sydney
01:02:13 rigon um in terms of the teaching and
01:02:16 the um and the uh and what have you as
01:02:20 in he prepared way before Elijah AKA
01:02:25 Joseph Smith he he prepared the he
01:02:28 prepared people that they could receive
01:02:30 the
01:02:31 messenger
01:02:33 right so that is what that’s what this
01:02:37 is talking about that’s the teaching of
01:02:40 the E stanza okay now we can go to the
01:02:44 second e yes now one thing it’s
01:02:47 interesting we’ll go a through e here
01:02:51 the other one goes a through e also and
01:02:56 another interesting point uh and both
01:02:59 and I have it in purple but anyways uh
01:03:03 Joseph Smith Elijah is in the two
01:03:07 closest
01:03:10 EBS yes so um anyway so here so here we
01:03:15 have uh starting
01:03:19 EAA and they shall learn the parable of
01:03:22 the fig tree
01:03:25 for even now already summer I
01:03:29 Pentecost from Torah is nine but
01:03:32 Pentecost is when Torah is given is when
01:03:36 Torah is given yes so it’s and this gets
01:03:39 into some technical details but the
01:03:41 mighty strong will will bring full Torah
01:03:44 and this is
01:03:46 n un summer as in N unto when Torah will
01:03:52 be completely restored
01:03:54 and also this is another another thing
01:03:57 about this is that this also
01:04:02 indicates um through a uh through a
01:04:07 Paris this may
01:04:09 indicate I’m this is a working theory
01:04:13 that I
01:04:14 have that Torah will be restored the
01:04:17 full Torah will be restored at
01:04:19 Pentecost oh I agree with that I I I
01:04:22 don’t have any doubt about that
01:04:25 mhm
01:04:27 so and I
01:04:30 Y have sent forth the fullness of my’s
01:04:34 gospel by the hand of
01:04:37 my
01:04:39 servant
01:04:41 Joseph Elijah
01:04:44 EB go up can I get oh yeah I got them
01:04:47 both on the screen yep
01:04:50 e so there there you have it it’s
01:04:54 connected within the chastic structure
01:04:57 let us move on okay
01:05:01 um and in weakness have
01:05:04 I blessed him and
01:05:08 I have made given unto Joseph the keys
01:05:12 of the
01:05:13 mystery of things which have been
01:05:17 sealed even things which were from the
01:05:21 foundation of the world note that here
01:05:23 there is
01:05:25 uh when there is a word that there is no
01:05:30 there is a word absent here that is
01:05:32 present when they’re when the Church of
01:05:36 when the Church of Jesus Christ of
01:05:37 latterday saints is trying to create a
01:05:40 mystery and that word is hidden it
01:05:42 simply says even things which were from
01:05:44 the foundation of the world because
01:05:46 there is nothing hidden from the
01:05:49 foundation of the world there is no new
01:05:52 thing under the sun this is the Bible
01:05:54 says that clearly yeah
01:05:57 yeah
01:05:59 um okay where was I uh all things which
01:06:04 were from the foundation of the world
01:06:06 and the things which shall come from
01:06:09 this time until the time of
01:06:12 my
01:06:13 coming if
01:06:16 he okay if
01:06:19 he abide in
01:06:23 me okay so I don’t think the me is
01:06:26 Joseph oh yeah yeah you’re right in fact
01:06:30 that’s funny I have a i it probably got
01:06:32 a little confused because why would it
01:06:33 be in himself because I have the me caps
01:06:36 so I I I don’t know what I was thinking
01:06:39 good catch yeah yeah I I I anyways I’m
01:06:44 not perfect myself right we we we all
01:06:48 fail at times um and if not another will
01:06:53 I you
01:06:54 plant in his stead this is a promise of
01:06:58 the one Mighty and strong yeah yeah and
01:07:02 we’ve gone over that before wherefore
01:07:04 watch over
01:07:06 him Joseph that his SE that
01:07:11 his uh Joseph’s Faith fail
01:07:16 not and it shall be given by the
01:07:19 comforter the holy
01:07:22 ghost that knoweth
01:07:24 all
01:07:27 things there’s an equivocation there’s
01:07:29 an equivalence posted put there between
01:07:33 the Holy
01:07:34 Ghost and all things
01:07:39 Torah yeah uh actually all three
01:07:41 comforter Holy Ghost Torah they’re all
01:07:44 the same
01:07:47 yeah so so I I this is I I really
01:07:52 appreciate the fact this isn’t a ASM and
01:07:54 you can actually see that the two
01:07:57 um that the two lines intercept that the
01:08:01 two the two stanzas intersect at this
01:08:03 point of
01:08:05 naming um Joseph Smith in the bottom one
01:08:08 and Elijah in the top one uh minus the
01:08:11 glyphs um oh right right uh yeah I add
01:08:15 glyphs to help give context and we fixed
01:08:17 one right anyways right right so um so
01:08:23 min so minus the glyphs this actually
01:08:27 equ by kaym by the revelation of
01:08:31 kaym this
01:08:34 equates Joseph
01:08:36 Smith with Elijah the now the second e
01:08:42 talks about him having the keys and and
01:08:44 helping people right which goes along
01:08:48 with9 so with this in mind let’s
01:08:52 revisit
01:08:57 um
01:09:00 Malachi okay okay uh let me just pause
01:09:03 for a
01:09:05 minute now in the Doctrine and Covenants
01:09:09 uh in the LDS Doctrine and Covenants
01:09:11 section two this is not actually
01:09:12 included in the rlds Doctrine and
01:09:16 Covenants
01:09:18 um this is these are the words of Moroni
01:09:22 to Joseph Smith
01:09:24 on the night that Joseph Smith received
01:09:27 the call to translate The Book of
01:09:30 Mormon this is how this verse was quoted
01:09:33 to him so we can in the light of what
01:09:36 we’ve discovered in um section
01:09:40 35 we can we can we can now apply that
01:09:44 light to
01:09:46 this behold I will reveal unto you the
01:09:49 priesthood by the hand of Elijah the
01:09:52 prophet before the Great Dre The Coming
01:09:54 of the great and Dreadful day of the
01:09:56 Lord AKA The Prophet Joseph Smith
01:09:59 because he by the hand of the Prophet
01:10:01 Joseph Smith and what did Joseph Smith
01:10:05 res and what was Joseph Smith given the
01:10:07 right to
01:10:08 restore uh neonic priesthood for one the
01:10:12 priesthood and he shall plant in the
01:10:15 hearts of the children the
01:10:19 promises made to the
01:10:21 fathers and the hearts of the children
01:10:23 shall turn to their
01:10:25 fathers in other
01:10:27 words the promises made to Abraham the
01:10:33 fathers Abraham Isaac Jacob
01:10:40 Moses and the hearts of the children
01:10:42 shall turn to their fathers which is one
01:10:46 way of saying
01:10:47 repenting
01:10:49 right if it were not so the whole Earth
01:10:53 would be be utterly wasted at his coming
01:10:55 and I testify to you that I know that
01:10:57 the Earth will not be wasted at his
01:11:02 coming because Joseph Smith the prophet
01:11:07 came before The Great and Dreadful day
01:11:09 of the
01:11:10 Lord
01:11:11 restored
01:11:14 priesthood and planted in the
01:11:18 hearts of the children the promises made
01:11:22 to the fathers
01:11:25 right and he started a proper
01:11:28 understanding of scriptures because
01:11:29 Joseph Smith did not restore everything
01:11:31 as in first Nei 13 but he planted in the
01:11:34 hearts the promises right right he got
01:11:37 the ball rolling he got it
01:11:41 started um and the reason three if this
01:11:44 was not the case the whole Earth would
01:11:47 be utterly wasted at his coming this
01:11:50 brings out how yahweh’s coming is at an
01:11:53 appointed time it doesn’t matter if
01:11:56 there’s enough righteous or enough
01:11:57 Wicked he’s coming period at this
01:12:00 specific date at an appointed time um
01:12:05 and
01:12:06 uh which is
01:12:09 not for the wicked to
01:12:12 know right um and that’s why they’re
01:12:16 trying to find Planet where they’re
01:12:18 trying to find Planet X but anyways
01:12:19 that’s another subject but oh the reason
01:12:24 why everyone would be wasted if it
01:12:26 wasn’t for this CU people would not
01:12:29 repent and return to the Covenant Torah
01:12:33 that was given to the fathers Abraham
01:12:36 Isaac Jacob Adam Moses and all the
01:12:40 prophets
01:12:42 beforehand and the
01:12:47 followers have their hearts planted the
01:12:50 covenants that were given to the leaders
01:12:54 yeah and the hearts of the followers
01:12:56 will turn to their
01:12:58 leaders
01:13:00 yeah um and this whole earth is people
01:13:05 on the
01:13:06 Earth and so if people don’t
01:13:09 repent
01:13:11 everyone or those who don’t repent
01:13:13 before the second coming because of the
01:13:15 destruction is coming will be destroyed
01:13:19 and so Joseph Smith did bring back
01:13:22 correct understanding of a lot of things
01:13:24 will help people to
01:13:27 repent but there but since he brought it
01:13:30 back there have been plenty of people
01:13:32 who’ve been willing to reconf everybody
01:13:34 all over
01:13:35 again yeah sadly that’s the case and
01:13:39 most of and most of them had most of
01:13:42 them most of their names began with
01:13:43 Brigham and ended with
01:13:47 young well for those who don’t know uh
01:13:51 Ben and I have a very very
01:13:54 low low low low low low hell it’s so low
01:13:59 it’s hell opinion of briam young okay
01:14:03 oh don’t get me started on heby
01:14:07 Kimble uh yeah well anyways everybody
01:14:11 after him in that same church uh uh the
01:14:15 top leaders anyways of lot of problems
01:14:18 um the members there’s a lot of members
01:14:21 with who me mean well there uh which
01:14:25 goes along with let’s just second Nephi
01:14:30 2814 that one I just have memorized
01:14:32 because it’s kind
01:14:33 of big deal but anyways I don’t have
01:14:36 everything memorized as you guys see I
01:14:37 go to notes a lot of
01:14:39 times I’m I’m generally speaking I’m
01:14:41 more worried about Concepts and
01:14:43 principles than the verse um but anyways
01:14:46 it’s good to have the verses um and they
01:14:49 wear stiff necks and high heads yay
01:14:52 because of pride and wickedness and
01:14:53 Abominations whoredoms they have all
01:14:55 gone astray save it be a
01:14:59 few who are humble followers of the
01:15:04 Messiah NE
01:15:08 nevertheless they are LED in many
01:15:11 instances they do
01:15:13 air they do wrong they sin because they
01:15:17 are taught by the precepts of men so I
01:15:21 encourage those
01:15:24 who
01:15:26 um those who see this
01:15:31 recording to be humble followers of
01:15:34 Christ to walk in his
01:15:36 footsteps to turn from your sins and
01:15:39 your wicked ways we all have
01:15:44 them and walk in his ways which he told
01:15:51 us about on sin
01:15:54 and during his mortal
01:15:56 Ministry and revealed
01:15:58 again in large part to the Prophet
01:16:02 Joseph Smith and through the Book of
01:16:03 Mormon it’s all been
01:16:06 revealed but no man not all a lot
01:16:10 because even in the prophets of in the
01:16:12 Book of Mormon say they wanted to say
01:16:14 more but we couldn’t they wanted well as
01:16:16 much as as much as we can handle has
01:16:19 been revealed yeah yes I can put that
01:16:22 I’ll go with that
01:16:24 because that may not be offensive but
01:16:26 we’ll uh we’ll go with that as much as
01:16:28 we can handle has been
01:16:31 red um and so
01:16:35 we I encourage you instead of pitting
01:16:40 the scriptures against each
01:16:43 other seek to find the
01:16:47 harmony seek to find your unchanging God
01:16:52 within the
01:16:54 pages of all of Holy
01:16:59 Scripture and and I I will add not
01:17:03 traditions of the cult that’s all over
01:17:06 the world religions you may have to you
01:17:10 may have to uh unlearn everything you’ve
01:17:12 ever thought about with regards to a
01:17:14 scripture and actually just read it like
01:17:16 a child look on the page see what it
01:17:22 says
01:17:26 Yes actually just read what it
01:17:29 says because when you read what it says
01:17:31 you’ll find the harmony a lot
01:17:35 faster instead of when you read what
01:17:38 you’ll read what if you read what it
01:17:39 says instead of what you’ve been taught
01:17:41 to say that it read to think that it
01:17:43 reads you’ll find the Harmony in the
01:17:46 works a lot
01:17:47 faster yes
01:17:52 yeah
01:17:53 um and then you will be able then your
01:17:57 mind will be enlightened and you will be
01:17:59 able to walk more fully in the way if
01:18:02 you play so um I encourage anybody who
01:18:07 hears this video to take put that to the
01:18:10 test see if I’m just a raving
01:18:14 lunatic because there’s a lot of people
01:18:16 probably think that I am and well join
01:18:19 the club with I’ve been told in some
01:18:22 instances that filled with the spirit of
01:18:23 the accuser but I I know in whom I have
01:18:27 trusted yeah well along those lines um
01:18:31 let’s just uh show a few things um
01:18:34 because they obviously do not know the
01:18:37 scriptures um so we’ll just do a few and
01:18:43 maybe one that I think kind of really
01:18:46 brings it out Ezekiel no I mean um no no
01:18:51 no no no oh yeah EZ
01:18:53 was uh 33 now I know I don’t have all
01:18:56 the verses here but this gets the point
01:18:58 out uh 6 8 and nine but if the Watchmen
01:19:04 see the sword come and blow not the
01:19:06 trumpet and the people be not warned if
01:19:10 the sword come and take any person from
01:19:13 among them he is taking he is taken away
01:19:17 in
01:19:18 his iniquity the as in the iniquity of
01:19:22 not warning people but well actually
01:19:26 here this is the sinner who is taken
01:19:28 away in his iniquity yeah okay yeah
01:19:30 sorry sorry uh the so the sinner will
01:19:33 get uh his punishment and also the
01:19:40 Watchman or I will acquire the blood of
01:19:43 the watchman’s hand so what this means
01:19:46 that the Watchman remains silent he is
01:19:49 guilty of murder yes yeah
01:19:53 and when we
01:19:54 sin uh we die spiritually and so this is
01:19:59 talking about spiritual murder right yep
01:20:03 um so eight when I say unto the wicked
01:20:07 oh Wicked Man Thou shalt surely die if
01:20:10 thou
01:20:11 not if thou Dost not speak to warn the
01:20:14 wicked from his way that the
01:20:18 wicked that the wicked men shall die in
01:20:21 his iniquity that Wicked Man shall die
01:20:23 in his iniquity but his blood will I
01:20:26 require at thy hand so it say if you
01:20:29 don’t warn him you have you have a uh
01:20:33 blood on your hands nonetheless if thou
01:20:36 warn the wicked of his way to return
01:20:39 from it as in repent if he do not re
01:20:43 turn his way repent he shall die in his
01:20:47 iniquity but thou Hast delivered thy
01:20:51 soul and so so
01:20:56 sometimes I speak words that are hard to
01:21:00 be received and
01:21:03 yet it is for the Deliverance of it it
01:21:06 is for the Sal it is intended to the
01:21:08 Salvation of the people who I am
01:21:10 speaking them about and it is intended
01:21:14 that I may that if they choose not to
01:21:19 repent
01:21:21 I garments shall be cleansed of their
01:21:25 blood yeah uh Jacob talks about that
01:21:30 in Jacob four maybe I’d have to look but
01:21:33 anyways um I can find it but one thing I
01:21:36 will say
01:21:37 in
01:21:40 Isaiah
01:21:42 52 um it brings out specifically the
01:21:46 might and strong one but I do believe
01:21:47 this applies to the my strong one and
01:21:49 his helper how they will be despised
01:21:54 and I do believe it’s because they’ll be
01:21:57 doing exactly
01:22:00 this trying to get people to turn from
01:22:03 their wicked ways unto righteousness and
01:22:06 the wicked don’t like that but at the
01:22:10 same time they take those these
01:22:12 scriptures and those like it very
01:22:14 seriously because they actually do want
01:22:17 to help the world and people personally
01:22:21 to come unto Yahweh in his ways and to
01:22:24 have a better life right so people hate
01:22:28 that that’s why they’ll be despised but
01:22:30 anyway sorry so I would encourage you to
01:22:33 test what I
01:22:35 say so that you may
01:22:37 see whether or not it come it comes of
01:22:46 God Walk in his ways repent of your evil
01:22:51 do of all of your evil
01:22:53 doings and turn from your wickedness and
01:22:57 your
01:22:59 idolatry and your spiritual
01:23:04 whoredoms and turn to the god of
01:23:08 Abraham of ibraim is and
01:23:15 yov and I will say that is
01:23:18 done
01:23:20 by uh repent
01:23:23 and
01:23:24 returning to
01:23:27 Y
01:23:28 Everlasting
01:23:30 Eternal and forever true
01:23:34 for yeah so the doctrine of the Messiah
01:23:39 a lot of people like to focus on but the
01:23:42 first part is repenting which is
01:23:45 returning to the law Torah and the part
01:23:50 the last part the baptism the holy
01:23:52 spirit is where that has fully happened
01:23:58 okay where the law has been written upon
01:24:00 your heart and you are a new man and you
01:24:03 are like
01:24:05 Christ because you do things the same
01:24:07 way that he would do
01:24:10 them um and then the other two parts
01:24:13 baptism of water is a witness that you
01:24:16 have made that Covenant that you’re
01:24:18 going to
01:24:20 repent and
01:24:23 yeshua’s part is the witness from Yahweh
01:24:28 that he has found you with a broken
01:24:30 heart contrite spirit which is a baptism
01:24:32 of fire or
01:24:34 justification that he sees that you are
01:24:38 willing to start keeping his Torah his
01:24:43 law and which it does take time that’s
01:24:46 why there’s these three baptisms here as
01:24:49 Joseph Smith talked about water a
01:24:52 witness that you’re going
01:24:54 to uh going to work towards keeping his
01:24:58 law which is
01:24:59 repenting uh baptism of fire a witness
01:25:02 from Yahweh that he sees that you’re
01:25:05 honest in your desire to do that and
01:25:09 then the third
01:25:10 baptism when you have actually done
01:25:14 that now there are some people
01:25:18 who now it is
01:25:20 true that act
01:25:22 speaks often and openly of people
01:25:25 receiving the baptism of fire the
01:25:27 baptism of the Holy Ghost by the laying
01:25:29 on of
01:25:31 hands um there’s multiple meanings to
01:25:35 this one is of course the literal laying
01:25:38 on of hands the other is by laying their
01:25:42 hand to the plow and
01:25:45 working yeah uh hand is symbolic of
01:25:49 work and so and so while there is
01:25:53 while scripturally there it is very
01:25:56 plain and evident that there is a laying
01:25:59 on of hands that is
01:26:01 done um with regards to the baptism of
01:26:05 the Holy Ghost it is also plainly
01:26:09 evident that the sanctification that we
01:26:12 have that there’s that our
01:26:15 sanctification is largely dependent upon
01:26:19 our works yes
01:26:23 justification
01:26:26 happens because of the mercy of the
01:26:31 Messiah and the grace of the
01:26:35 Messiah Grace onto mercy of the Messiah
01:26:38 the and uh
01:26:41 sanctification is the abundance of
01:26:44 Grace whereby we are made like him yeah
01:26:48 so um let
01:26:51 me
01:26:52 oh here we go uh so here’s DNC 888 that
01:26:56 I know you like um go over
01:26:59 that and again verily I say unto you
01:27:02 that which is governed by law Torah is
01:27:05 also
01:27:06 preserved which is justified by law and
01:27:11 or even perfected even Sanctified by the
01:27:16 same law or
01:27:19 Torah that which breakthe law
01:27:22 Torah and abideth not by Torah but
01:27:25 seeketh to become a law unto
01:27:27 itself or to rewrite Torah or to or to
01:27:33 uh nail it to a
01:27:34 tree no I’ll just say since you’re
01:27:37 seeing that phrase it was the law of
01:27:38 Moses which is primarily the two daily
01:27:41 Lambs that was nailed to the cross which
01:27:44 points to yeshua’s Great sacrifice Alma
01:27:47 34 but anyways but all of those are are
01:27:50 ways by which we become a la to
01:27:52 ourselves correct and there there’s a
01:27:56 lot of
01:27:57 misunderstandings that people will push
01:28:00 to justify their sins and that is one of
01:28:03 them right so and willth to abide in sin
01:28:06 and altogether abideth in sin guess what
01:28:08 Grace isn’t going to abound for
01:28:10 them this is why Paul said God
01:28:13 forbid yeah because God does forbid they
01:28:17 cannot be Sanctified by law neither by
01:28:20 Mery that’s a very blunt and honest and
01:28:23 correct way of putting it right right
01:28:26 they cannot be Sanctified by law neither
01:28:28 by Mercy Justice nor judgment therefore
01:28:31 they must remain filthy still therefore
01:28:33 they go to
01:28:37 hell they go to
01:28:43 G the heat at the center of the
01:28:48 earth as um stoning which will happen to
01:28:52 the wicked D temporarily and
01:28:58 perly dust thou was and unto dust shalt
01:29:02 thou return if you do not repent and
01:29:06 return to Torah yeah it’s just that
01:29:11 simple yeah in fact though as B in heal
01:29:16 and you’ll want that rock that you’ll
01:29:18 want to hide under the Rock and not be
01:29:21 in front
01:29:24 Yahweh as well sure sure um so he being
01:29:30 stoned is actually what you want
01:29:33 although it’s people will complain about
01:29:36 it but they’re going to want to hide
01:29:38 underneath the rocks to get away from
01:29:41 the glory that they they hate so much
01:29:44 and they run they people run away from
01:29:47 it their whole lives what makes you
01:29:49 think that they’re going to want it when
01:29:51 they’re
01:29:54 resurrected
01:29:57 yes uh you know this this actually
01:30:00 speaks
01:30:02 against the necessity of baptisms for
01:30:06 the
01:30:09 dead there is no necessity there is no
01:30:12 reason for for for us to receive proxy
01:30:15 baptisms for dead people and the reason
01:30:17 for that is that after the that this
01:30:20 life is the time for men to perform
01:30:22 their labors and that Spirit which
01:30:24 possesses them at the time that they
01:30:25 leave this life it will have power to
01:30:28 possess their life their and they will
01:30:30 have power to possess them in the life
01:30:32 to come yeah that’s straight out of the
01:30:35 Book of Mormon there and
01:30:40 therefore
01:30:42 nobody who
01:30:44 rejected nobody who failed to live to
01:30:47 the best of their
01:30:49 ability would possibly accept Torah or
01:30:54 become like
01:30:57 Yeshua after this life right because
01:31:00 they didn’t want it they proved they
01:31:02 didn’t want it
01:31:09 yeah so please please please come under
01:31:14 yeshua’s covering and listen and do AK
01:31:20 heed um
01:31:22 what he has always said from the
01:31:26 beginning to the
01:31:27 end there is nothing
01:31:31 hid except as we hide it from ourselves
01:31:35 correct and and and as we sin that’s how
01:31:40 we hide it from ourselves because then
01:31:42 we get tainted
01:31:44 looks and we don’t know how to
01:31:47 understand what he’s already given us so
01:31:50 so so
01:31:52 so I just want
01:31:53 to I want to again bear my witness to
01:31:56 the importance of turning from our
01:31:59 sins and becoming as
01:32:03 Yeshua uh which is not only possible but
01:32:07 is
01:32:08 commanded yeah and I’ll leave that I’ll
01:32:11 leave that with you
01:32:13 viewers in the name of Yeshua
01:32:18 hamah amen