Scripture Study 2026-10-09 A Shadow of the Second Coming Events

Summary

Going over a shadow of the second coming events from after the crossing of the Red Sea through the Tabernacle. On occasion YHWH gives me inspiration that I then work to fill out the details on because I am striving to keep His Torah. The scriptures have deeper meaning & angels to them. The Mighty and Strong One will receive his calling during the 3rd Seal. Torah is the Holy Spirit. Truth builds upon truth. 1st Seal the 2nd USA Civil war is in Ex 15:1-21. There are only two priesthoods. I believe Debra is a prophecy about the times of the Gentiles. The temple in Egypt in Isaiah is the 3rd Temple at Independence. Jerusalem can be Old or New Jerusalem. We need prophet & seers to get around translation issues because they have seen visions. 2nd Seal the world war is in Ex 15:22-27. The 7 mountains that the AntiChrist will sit over are the 7 nations the 7 horns. Book of Mormon came out of the ground & will help the world know how to follow Yeshua & Torah. Law of Moses & Torah are two different things. Seals 1-3 are Jacob’s trouble. 3rd Seal is hunger & is in Ex 16. The Mighty and Strong One will receive his calling during the 3rd Seal which is shown in Ex 17:1-7. This shadow confirms that the Servant will give sign(s) to the elder of the Native Americans. Native Americans believe their elders which goes with the Lamanites. The Roaring Lions at the start of the 4th Seal is in Ex 17:8-16. Genesis brings out how Joseph descendants will go over the fence which is the USA. YHWH bringing people to Zion during the 4th Seal is in Ex 18:1-12. Teaching & creating leaders during the 4th Seal is in Ex 18:13-27. Fullness of the gospel is sanctification & preparatory is justification. Before mount Sinai, all male 1st borns were to be priests unto YHWH, before the cross only the 1st of Levi is part of the Law of Moses. Sanctifying the people during the 4th Seal is in Ex 19. The Restoration of Torah / All Things is in the 4th Seal shown in Ex 20-23. Ex 32:18-21 goes along with prophecy how many think Torah is hard. The Holy Spirit is Torah. D&C (LDS 121:26-27) brings out how Torah will be restored. God is a bad translation of Elohim, which means Judge, & is a Majestic Plural. Keep Torah as it is written. Adam-ondi-Ahmen near the end of the 4th Seal is in Ex 24. No one can see YHWH in their sins & live because you can’t stand His glory nor would you want to because you don’t like His ways. All the High Holidays deals with the Second Coming events. Temple and restoration of Torah animal sacrifices during the 4th Seal is in Ex 25-27;30-31:11, which goes with Daniel’s numbers. Sanctifying the Priests during the 4th Seal is in Ex 28-29 which goes with Malachi. 5th Seal is in Ex 32:1-14 with the golden calf. The 5th Seal is the half hour of silence because YHWH will not answer the wicked prayer. Prophets are seeking to help us understand YHWH’s ways such that we can understand YHWH. YHWH has given Torah to every man & woman. Only one golden calf was made, not multiple. 6th Seal, the rapture happens in Ex 32:15. The 7th Seal has 7 Trumpets with it, which are a chiasmus, as the 7 Seals are also. Fire & Brimstone of the 1st Trumpet is in Ex 32:19. Kindling a fire is a Hebrew idiom that means anger. We can cook on the Sabbath as D&C 59 states. Brimstone goes with baptism of Torah. In Ex 32:20 you can see the 2nd & 3rd Trumpets. Drinking of the golden calf goes with drinking of the wrath of God. 4th Trumpet dealing with death is in Ex 32:27-28 with the sons of Levi executing the wicked. Not all the wicked will die and Isaiah 52 brings out how the Mighty and Strong One will do missionary work to them. 5th Trumpet and people who was of Telestial Glory is in Ex 32:29-35 and Revelation 11:13. Celestial & Terrestrial people were raptured where Telestial people need to be crushed like grapes. Moses did an appeasement not an atonement. Adam is the man who has the key of death and hell. Ex 33 has to do with war which is the 6th Trumpet. The 7th Trumpet will last 7 inclusive moons from Passover to Tabernacles. Ezekiel 39 deals with the Second Coming events. I do believe this shadow confirms the pattern of the Second Coming events YHWH gave me, but not tied to normal Solar & Lunar eclipse but one tied to a comet that just as happened during Yeshua’s death. 7th Trumpet, wrath being Finished is in Ex 34. Getting the 2nd set of the 10 commandments goes along with the 2nd time of fire and brimstone. Ex 35 deals with the Tabernacle which goes along how Yeshua will live in the 3rd Temple when He comes back with the Second Coming. Ex 35-Lev 9 deals with the Millennium and how we are to repent to become like Yeshua. The Final War is in Lev 10:1-7 with the 2 sons of Aaron bringing a strange fire. Eternity is in Lev 10:8 with teaching with a connection with D&C 76:86-87 in that those who receive more glory are to teach the Holy Spirit, Torah, to others.

Notes

1st Seal: USA 2nd Civil War, Exodus 15:1-21
2nd Seal: World War, Exodus 15:22-27
3rd Seal: Hunger, Exodus 16
Calling of the Mighty and Strong One, Exodus 17:1-7
4th Seal: Roaring Lions, Exodus 17:8-16
4th Seal: YHWH bringing people to Zion, Exodus 18:1-12
4th Seal: Teaching & Leaders, Exodus 18:13-27
4th Seal: Sanctifying the People, Exodus 19
4th Seal: Restoration of Torah / All Things, Exodus 20-23
4th Seal: Adam-ondi-Ahmen, Exodus 24
4th Seal: Temple and restoration of Torah animal sacrifices, Exodus 25-27;30-31:11
4th Seal: Sanctifying the Priests, Exodus 28-29
5th Seal: Half Hour of Silence, Exodus 32:1-14
6th Seal: Rapture, Exodus 32:15
7th Seal: 1st Trumpet: Fire and Brimstone, Exodus 32:19
7th Seal: 2nd Trumpet: Sea, Exodus 32:20
7th Seal: 3rd Trumpet: River, Exodus 32:20
7th Seal: 4th Trumpet: Death, Exodus 32:27-28
7th Seal: 5th Trumpet: Telestial Glory, Exodus 32:29-35
7th Seal: 6th Trumpet: War, Exodus 33
7th Seal: 7th Trumpet: Finished, Exodus 34
Second Coming, Exodus 35
Millennium, Exodus 35-Leviticus 9
Final War, Leviticus 10:1-7
Eternity, Leviticus 10:8

Transcript

00:00:00 recording computer.
00:00:02 Okay. So, Ben wanted to hear how I see a
00:00:07 shadow of the second coming events
00:00:10 from uh the crossing of the Red Sea till
00:00:16 the tabernacle.
00:00:18 Two, it has the millennium
00:00:21 and Gog and Magog, the last battle and
00:00:25 eternity in it. In fact, he hadn’t
00:00:27 probably hadn’t heard that part yet cuz
00:00:28 I saw that when I was working on some of
00:00:30 the specifics of it. Um because from
00:00:34 memory, I couldn’t remember figure out
00:00:36 the sixth seal. So, I had to go back and
00:00:38 read it all. Um but actually, as I was
00:00:41 reading it all, I found more than I
00:00:43 thought I would find. Um, so I I
00:00:50 on occasion here and there Yahweh gives
00:00:52 me inspirations and sometimes it’s not
00:00:55 even dealing with the subject that I’m
00:00:56 working on. Um, I do believe it’s
00:01:00 because I am striving to keep his
00:01:02 commandments and striving to understand
00:01:06 his word in meaning searching, studying,
00:01:09 praying, pondering to figure it out to
00:01:12 have a deeper understanding rather than
00:01:15 just a surface understanding which this
00:01:17 gets into a deeper understanding
00:01:20 because it is the shadow.
00:01:23 So, we’re So, we’re talking about Rames
00:01:25 level interpretation here.
00:01:27 >> Um,
00:01:29 yeah, if you go by the four, I I’m I’ve
00:01:32 gone back and forth on the four and the
00:01:34 two. I’m more on the two nowadays, but
00:01:37 I’m not that worried about it. So,
00:01:40 either way, I’ll put a link to Padres’s,
00:01:42 which is that I have that’s on the four.
00:01:44 I should probably add a note there that
00:01:46 I’m more on the two, but it whatever. Um
00:01:51 there there is the main point is that
00:01:53 there’s deeper deeper meanings to the
00:01:56 scriptures. Okay. And and I don’t think
00:01:58 this is the only deep and this is where
00:02:00 I do believe there’s additional angles
00:02:04 also.
00:02:05 >> Yeah.
00:02:06 >> Um which I currently believe handles
00:02:10 things better than the four levels. Just
00:02:12 different angles. But anyways,
00:02:16 >> who knows for sure. We’ll find out on
00:02:18 the other side. [laughter]
00:02:20 or or maybe before when the servant
00:02:21 comes. Right. But
00:02:23 >> Right.
00:02:24 I I do think that there’s certain
00:02:27 knowledge
00:02:28 that comes with the servant.
00:02:31 >> Oh yeah. Especially since um considering
00:02:35 all the other preparers or maybe not all
00:02:37 but many of the other previous preparers
00:02:40 saw beginning to end. So I do think
00:02:43 he’ll he’ll have the same and um he’ll
00:02:47 [clears throat] have a deeper
00:02:48 understanding when he actually gets the
00:02:50 calling. Um which actually on that point
00:02:54 I have believed for a long time and Ben
00:02:56 can confirm this that I have believed
00:02:58 the calling will come during the third
00:03:00 seal.
00:03:02 >> Um which has not happened yet despite
00:03:05 what some people claim. Um,
00:03:08 in fact, none of the sales have happened
00:03:10 and they have to happen in order. It’s
00:03:12 first, second, third, fourth, fifth,
00:03:14 sixth, and seventh. Um, anyways, um,
00:03:18 I do believe the calling will happen in
00:03:20 third seal. I believe Ben can confirm
00:03:22 that. I have said that before. I don’t
00:03:24 know if it’s been in a recording or not,
00:03:26 but
00:03:28 >> um, I do believe the shadow that I see
00:03:31 in these events that we’re going to go
00:03:33 over confirms that. In addition also
00:03:37 confirms that I believe the mighty
00:03:39 strong one will give signs to the elders
00:03:42 of uh the native Americans who are of
00:03:46 Manasseh. Okay, I do see that in this
00:03:49 shadow here which initially I got from
00:03:53 the Exodus before the Red Sea crossing
00:03:57 how Abraham I mean sorry Mo I’m a little
00:04:00 tired and a little buzzed. um that Moses
00:04:05 gave signs to the elders before they
00:04:08 went to Moses. I mean, not Moses to
00:04:10 Moses. Moses to a um Pharaoh went to
00:04:13 Pharaoh.
00:04:14 >> Yeah. And he gave three. I tend to
00:04:16 believe there’ll be three signs also.
00:04:19 Um but I don’t know for sure on that. Um
00:04:23 but he will give signs to the elders of
00:04:27 Manasseh, the Native Americans. Okay.
00:04:30 Uh, and I do believe the shadow that I
00:04:33 see that we’re going to go over
00:04:35 proves that out. Now, I don’t know any
00:04:38 scripture that specifically states that.
00:04:42 >> Okay? It is a belief of mine. Also,
00:04:47 uh, along with that, there I forget
00:04:49 where, but somewhere in Isaiah talks
00:04:51 about how there’s going to be a lot of
00:04:52 false, mighty, and strong ones. I mean,
00:04:54 there’s a popular one right now even.
00:04:58 Um,
00:05:00 and it’s one of the reasons I started my
00:05:02 Torah is the Holy Spirit page is just
00:05:05 kind of combat that what he teaches
00:05:07 because he teaches the Holy Spirit also,
00:05:11 but he’s not honest about it when he
00:05:12 does interviews. But anyways, uh,
00:05:16 >> but
00:05:18 uh, that’s almost done. That should be
00:05:19 probably be out in a couple days. Um,
00:05:22 anyways, but
00:05:26 I again I don’t have a specific
00:05:28 scripture for it. It’s more of a feeling
00:05:31 inclination
00:05:33 to it. I I hate the word feeling when
00:05:35 dealing with scriptures, but I I I
00:05:38 don’t know a better word to use right
00:05:40 now because feelings are fleeting and
00:05:43 >> maybe maybe a hunch.
00:05:45 >> Uh, yeah, hunch. That That’s a better
00:05:47 word. Thank you, Ben. [laughter] A
00:05:49 hunch. Yeah. Right.
00:05:51 >> But I do believe this shadow that I’m
00:05:53 going to bring out helps
00:05:55 prove out that hunch that I’ve had
00:05:57 before mainly because of a Moses going
00:06:02 to the elders before going to Pharaoh.
00:06:04 Okay. But I also see here in the correct
00:06:07 order that I’ve had hunches about that
00:06:10 I’ve gotten from Revelations 12 and
00:06:14 Isaiah 49 if I remember correctly which
00:06:16 I have posts about which I’ll put in the
00:06:18 links. Um
00:06:21 but
00:06:22 um so I will also say this has been a
00:06:27 combined effort of some initial
00:06:30 inspiration from Yahweh and me putting
00:06:33 in some effort
00:06:35 and
00:06:37 um previous understandings that I have
00:06:41 received and proved in my opinion proved
00:06:44 out
00:06:45 um such that I was prepared to
00:06:49 understand what he was giving me and
00:06:51 then be able to see the patterns that’s
00:06:55 there in the first place. Okay.
00:06:58 Um
00:07:00 truth builds upon truth, right?
00:07:03 >> Yeah, that’s that’s a given.
00:07:06 >> Yeah. Um so if you don’t know some
00:07:08 truth, you may not see some other truth
00:07:11 because it’s dependent or builds upon
00:07:14 other truth. So, um
00:07:17 I I’ve had a second coming page for a
00:07:20 long time that goes over a lot of this.
00:07:22 Yes, I got the timing wrong because I
00:07:25 tied it to an event that us humans can
00:07:29 time.
00:07:30 Um
00:07:32 apparently I was wrong. Obviously, I was
00:07:35 wrong on that. I do still believe in the
00:07:37 pattern. Uh, and I do believe that the
00:07:41 shadow proves out that pattern that I’ve
00:07:44 had that Ben has helped me clarify some
00:07:46 points on with his DNC87 that he helped
00:07:50 me with that we’ve gone back and forth
00:07:52 on and and improved what he’s had
00:07:54 together.
00:07:56 >> Um, I think he would agree with that
00:07:57 statement he just did. Um,
00:08:00 >> so
00:08:02 >> I do believe there is a lot to support
00:08:04 this, but uh, with that, I think it’s
00:08:08 probably good to at least go over, um, a
00:08:11 quick summary of things cuz it’d
00:08:14 probably take too long go over into all
00:08:15 the specific details,
00:08:18 but we’ll go over some. And I will be
00:08:21 honest, I’m most of this I have
00:08:23 memorized. There’s a few points where I
00:08:25 do need to look at my notes and I have
00:08:28 notes. But anyways, um so with that,
00:08:32 unless Ben wants to say something, let’s
00:08:34 get into it.
00:08:35 >> Well, I this is going to this is kind of
00:08:39 a revelation to me. So,
00:08:41 >> I’m just excited to uh I’m just excited
00:08:44 to see what you what you’ve come up
00:08:46 with.
00:08:46 >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, if we can get the
00:08:48 app to work. So, I’m going to pause a
00:08:51 minute. There’s no sense of watching the
00:08:54 app take forever.
00:08:57 Okay, so the app decided to finally
00:08:59 work. Um, we’re going to start with
00:09:00 Exodus 15, which is just after the
00:09:04 crossing of the Red Sea. Okay.
00:09:07 >> Now, uh, so looking at my notes, Exodus
00:09:10 15 1-2,
00:09:13 I have as the first seal. Now, uh, this
00:09:17 is the song
00:09:20 uh one of the songs that’s are within
00:09:23 the five books of Moses, right? Um
00:09:27 and a big part of the song of
00:09:31 Exodus 15:es 1- 21 is about how
00:09:37 Pharaoh, Egypt was destroyed by the
00:09:41 water. Now, Ben, you probably know this
00:09:44 because you knew this long before I did
00:09:46 because you were into prophecy long
00:09:48 before I was, right?
00:09:49 >> Yep.
00:09:50 >> Because I got into prophecy when I
00:09:52 started writing um uh important coming
00:09:55 dates. That’s why I got into it. And I
00:09:58 do believe Yahweh has helped me since
00:10:00 then with the pattern. And the pattern I
00:10:04 think proves out here. But uh I’m sure
00:10:07 Ben can tell us what does Egypt
00:10:09 represent in prophecy. Egypt represents
00:10:12 America.
00:10:13 >> Yeah.
00:10:17 >> United States of America to be
00:10:20 >> being uh being a being the economic
00:10:24 powerhouse of the known world and the uh
00:10:28 and as well as the military powerhouse
00:10:30 of the known world. Egypt was the was
00:10:34 considered the strongest military at the
00:10:36 time of Moses.
00:10:37 >> Yeah. And it is today too just before
00:10:40 the second coming or also known as the
00:10:43 second exodus uh which less commonly
00:10:46 known that way in a lot of circles but
00:10:48 it is known that way in some circles and
00:10:51 and it’s talked about that way in the
00:10:53 scriptures actually even in the Book of
00:10:55 Mormon. Right. So
00:10:57 >> yeah. So if you’re if you’re waiting for
00:10:59 the new heaven and the new earth you’re
00:11:01 kind of uh you’re kind of missing what
00:11:03 comes beforehand. Yeah, that will
00:11:06 happen. But that will be caused during
00:11:08 the second coming events by the mighty
00:11:10 and strong one actually by priesthood
00:11:13 >> that he’ll have the the high priesthood
00:11:16 the Melzdc priesthood because the
00:11:18 doctrine covenants I forget where it’s
00:11:19 probably DNC 84 or 88. I I don’t know. I
00:11:22 can look it up.
00:11:24 >> Talks about how there’s only two
00:11:25 priesthoods. The mazes and the ironic or
00:11:28 the higher and the lower. Okay. Whatever
00:11:31 names you want to use, whatever. Um, I
00:11:34 use both cuz I don’t know how to spell
00:11:36 mckzdicc. I’m being completely open and
00:11:38 honest. So, I have to go look it up. So,
00:11:41 but I don’t want to look it up. I use
00:11:42 the hire.
00:11:44 [laughter]
00:11:45 >> Be honest. I’m not My spelling is not
00:11:47 great. I have a lot of stuff memorized.
00:11:50 [laughter]
00:11:52 >> I I I just get a kick I just get a kick
00:11:55 out of it. It’s funny.
00:11:56 >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, [laughter]
00:11:58 a couple highlights in here is how uh
00:12:01 Egypt falls aka USA,
00:12:04 >> which uh goes along with um you can see
00:12:08 87 and um let me get the page up before
00:12:13 uh how um the first seal is a USA civil
00:12:19 war. Okay.
00:12:21 >> Um so I’m just going to show this my
00:12:24 second coming page. I probably going to
00:12:26 need to make it bigger, but I have this
00:12:29 here and this idea.
00:12:34 There we go. Has been here for quite a
00:12:36 while. First seal, second USA Civil War.
00:12:39 Okay. Now with with in the this song
00:12:44 that’s in Exodus 15:1-21,
00:12:48 they actually bring out how Egypt aka
00:12:51 code word for USA falls or fell, right?
00:12:56 I don’t remember exactly.
00:12:59 and that his horses and chariots horses
00:13:03 could I mean Revelations talks about the
00:13:07 first four seals with horses which deal
00:13:10 with war.
00:13:13 >> Mhm. Horses and chariots are symbols of
00:13:16 marshall power.
00:13:17 >> Yes. Aka like a civil war maybe.
00:13:22 >> Yeah. Um and the and I do find it
00:13:26 interesting that in this it talks about
00:13:28 how the horse and rider are thrown into
00:13:30 the sea. When you think about the
00:13:33 symbology of sea,
00:13:36 >> the sea is like the unruly people’s.
00:13:40 >> Yes, I agree.
00:13:42 >> And so and so you definitely see that
00:13:46 tie you can definitely see that tie into
00:13:49 u civil war.
00:13:51 >> Yes. And that actually also goes along
00:13:54 with how um in the Book of Mormon before
00:13:56 the first coming
00:13:58 in third Nephi something, sorry I can’t
00:14:01 remember cuz I’m I’m really prepared
00:14:03 here. Um that they talk about how they
00:14:09 went into tribes unruly and they all had
00:14:12 different laws. Unrury, unlawful as in
00:14:16 Yahweh’s
00:14:18 ways law, right? because they were doing
00:14:21 off the traditions of men and their own
00:14:23 thoughts.
00:14:25 That goes along with what’s going to
00:14:27 happen in the USA before the second
00:14:29 coming. Okay.
00:14:32 >> Uh and you can kind of at least in terms
00:14:35 of every man doing as seems right to
00:14:37 him. You see that around all the time.
00:14:40 >> Yes. And that’s a phrase from the book
00:14:42 of Judges if I remember correctly. Yes.
00:14:44 >> Um
00:14:46 >> because that’s actually Go ahead, Ben.
00:14:48 Everyone doing right, everyone doing
00:14:51 that which was right in their own sight.
00:14:53 >> Yes. I thought it was eyes, but either
00:14:55 way, it’s the same same idea, right?
00:14:58 um
00:15:00 instead of going by Yahweh’s um Torah
00:15:04 uh 10 divisions of Torah or the 10 ten
00:15:08 commandments which everything falls
00:15:09 under.
00:15:11 >> They’re just doing off of their own
00:15:12 wisdom aka the tree of knowledge of good
00:15:17 and evil because they were figuring out
00:15:19 what was good on their own and mixing it
00:15:22 with evil. Okay? Just like Satan mixes
00:15:24 [clears throat] good and evil together.
00:15:27 So
00:15:28 you uh it’s hard to know it’s true with
00:15:31 satan servants because they mix truth
00:15:35 and lies truth and evil together. Okay?
00:15:41 You can’t just say that they’re evil. So
00:15:43 they’re only telling your lies.
00:15:46 That’s not their I mean Genesis shows
00:15:49 that that’s not true. In fact, all their
00:15:52 symbols show that’s true. Even the yin
00:15:54 and yang. But anyways,
00:15:56 but back to the main point, uh, first
00:16:00 seal,
00:16:02 uh, USA’s civil war
00:16:05 and was Exodus 15 1-21 is a song about
00:16:10 how Egypt falls.
00:16:12 >> USA is going to have a civil war during
00:16:16 the first seal, which is going to cause
00:16:20 USA to fall. And it’s a war to begin
00:16:23 other wars, right?
00:16:25 >> Yeah.
00:16:26 >> So, not that it is significant for what
00:16:29 you’re saying, but I think it’s really
00:16:32 um it’s really cool. This song, this
00:16:34 first song
00:16:36 is actually written by Miriam.
00:16:38 >> Yes, it was written by Miriam, who is
00:16:40 actually called the prophetess.
00:16:43 >> There can be prophetists, women
00:16:45 prophets. Okay.
00:16:48 >> There there’s a couple in the B a few in
00:16:50 the Bible. Another one I remember off
00:16:51 the top of my head is Deborah, right?
00:16:54 >> Yes.
00:16:55 >> Which I actually believe she is um a
00:16:59 messenger in the triad um
00:17:05 pattern. I’ll put a link to that where
00:17:08 there’s messenger, preparer, and uh
00:17:12 redeemer which been helping me come up
00:17:13 with the names. Um, so
00:17:16 >> well, and here’s the interesting thing
00:17:17 about Deborah is she became a prophetist
00:17:20 because no man would stand for Israel.
00:17:24 >> Yes. Um, which I do believe that Deborah
00:17:29 is a prophecy of
00:17:33 the
00:17:34 time of the Gentiles also, but that
00:17:36 that’s a whole another subject. So, we
00:17:38 won’t get into that. But
00:17:40 >> that that would be that would be one
00:17:41 sidetrack too far.
00:17:43 >> Yeah. Um anyways, so there’s a lot about
00:17:48 the horse, which uh Revelations
00:17:53 uh six brings out how the first four
00:17:56 seals have to deal with the horse cuz
00:17:58 horses deal with war
00:18:00 >> and the chariots, right? and how they
00:18:02 fell and that and as Ben brought out how
00:18:06 Egypt is prophetically the USA
00:18:12 >> which goes along with what I stated
00:18:15 earlier and I have on this and Ben and I
00:18:17 have recordings about
00:18:20 >> um the latest is better than the
00:18:23 previous one but how DNC87 brings out
00:18:26 how the first seal now it doesn’t state
00:18:29 the seal but when you start looking at
00:18:31 the patterns of war to cause wars,
00:18:35 right? Um, which Revelation 6:2 brings
00:18:38 out. And you, uh, analyze DC87,
00:18:42 that’s what’s going on there, right?
00:18:45 It’s a war to cause wars.
00:18:48 >> This is the first seal. Okay. Egypt,
00:18:53 USA.
00:18:54 So, okay. I mean, that’s probably not
00:18:56 too hard to swallow for those who um
00:19:00 study Revelations and know that Egypt is
00:19:02 a symbol for the USA. Right.
00:19:05 >> Right.
00:19:06 >> Okay. So, that’s pretty simple. Um let
00:19:09 me go change my share again. So,
00:19:14 the second seal is Exodus 22 through 2.
00:19:18 The other thing that I want to add to
00:19:19 that is that if you’re waiting for Egypt
00:19:22 to become such a power again,
00:19:25 >> um you’re going to miss all the events.
00:19:27 >> Yeah. In addition on that point, there’s
00:19:30 a prophecy how the temple, a temple will
00:19:33 be in Egypt. It’s not literal Egypt. And
00:19:37 this is in Isaiah. I forget the chapter.
00:19:40 >> Um it’s going to be the USA. And it’s
00:19:42 going to be the third temple, the one in
00:19:45 the location that Joseph Smith dedicated
00:19:48 in Independence, Missouri.
00:19:51 >> It’s not in Jerusalem. Old Jerusalem.
00:19:55 It’s going to be new Jerusalem. Okay?
00:19:58 >> Old Jerusalem does not get old Jerusalem
00:20:02 does not get redeemed until the Son of
00:20:05 Man stands upon the Mount of Olives.
00:20:09 >> Yes. Um in fact there the sixth trumpet
00:20:14 which is part of the um seventh seal the
00:20:18 wrath there’s a war where they go to old
00:20:21 Jerusalem it’s still not redeemed
00:20:23 because it’s being war at that time and
00:20:26 we’ll get in that later in the recording
00:20:29 but to just go along with what Ben is
00:20:31 saying brought up there. Okay.
00:20:33 um
00:20:35 you
00:20:37 Jerusalem you have to uh take into
00:20:41 context of the overall scriptures if
00:20:43 it’s talking about old Jerusalem or new
00:20:46 Jerusalem if it’s prophetic it’s most
00:20:49 likely new Jerusalem if it’s in a good
00:20:52 context right but anyway
00:20:55 >> plus I will also point out that every
00:20:58 time uh that Jerusalem and Zion are
00:21:01 mentioned in the same verse
00:21:03 They’re mentioned Zion and Jerusalem or
00:21:07 Jerusalem and Zion.
00:21:10 It’s they’re separated with an and
00:21:15 um so we’d have to go look at those uh
00:21:19 specifics because and can mean even. So
00:21:23 >> Mhm.
00:21:23 >> Um
00:21:25 anyways, we’ll leave it at that because
00:21:26 that’s a sidetrack. Um I cuz
00:21:31 translations
00:21:33 is an interpretation.
00:21:35 >> Um
00:21:36 >> absolutely.
00:21:37 >> And that does make some things more
00:21:40 complicated.
00:21:42 >> Which is why I will say you need a
00:21:45 prophet in his ear.
00:21:47 >> Yeah.
00:21:47 >> Like Joseph Smith
00:21:49 >> to get around those issues because he’s
00:21:51 seen the vision.
00:21:53 >> Yep.
00:21:54 >> That he can then interpret correctly.
00:21:56 Okay.
00:21:58 Um, and why we need the coming servant
00:22:01 because you’ll see the vision
00:22:04 and can interpret correctly. But anyway,
00:22:07 >> see the end from the beginning.
00:22:09 >> Yeah. Yes. In fact, some of the
00:22:11 preparers, even Moses
00:22:14 and Enoch, some of the two big
00:22:16 preparers, they saw everybody, right?
00:22:19 Mhm.
00:22:20 >> So anyways, so the second seal
00:22:25 um I have from 22 to the end of the
00:22:28 chapter, they have a paragraph at 23.
00:22:31 >> I I to find out which one’s actually
00:22:33 correct, I would do kaisms, but I
00:22:36 haven’t worried about that to that
00:22:38 effect. Okay, this is where I still need
00:22:41 to get into some of the various details.
00:22:44 22 or 23 doesn’t matter much, okay, to
00:22:47 me anyways. And this is where I would
00:22:49 use a kayaism to try to help distinguish
00:22:53 one from the other. Okay? Because if
00:22:55 this is ending stuff from the previous
00:22:57 in verse one, I would go with 23. But
00:23:00 we’re not going to do that because I
00:23:02 didn’t do that before. Okay?
00:23:03 >> So they come to the waters of Mara.
00:23:06 That’s interesting.
00:23:08 >> Yeah. Okay. So they go to the waters of
00:23:10 Maria. So a lot of So one of the
00:23:14 symbolisms of water is Yes. is people
00:23:17 has been brought out earlier. But
00:23:20 another one is revelation of Yahw. Okay.
00:23:25 And this actually goes along with
00:23:27 Matthew 24 how Yeshua stated that the
00:23:31 hearts of men will grow cold because
00:23:34 they reject Torah.
00:23:36 And uh and if you’re looking for a verse
00:23:38 that uses both of these
00:23:42 um symbolic definitions of water and sea
00:23:45 in the same verse,
00:23:47 Jeremiah chapter 31 for the earth, I
00:23:51 forget exactly which verse.
00:23:53 >> Okay, so let me pause and we’ll go find
00:23:55 it. So that way we’re
00:24:01 Okay. So, we found the verse been wanted
00:24:03 and it actually is in Isaiah 11:9. Um,
00:24:07 so using my little tool,
00:24:10 um, which I’ll put a link to uh,
00:24:12 searching for water and sea, we found it
00:24:15 and been reviewed and he found the one
00:24:17 he wanted. I’ll let him go from there.
00:24:19 >> Okay. So this is an example of waters
00:24:22 and sea being used in the same verse.
00:24:27 Both of these
00:24:30 both of these having their con having
00:24:33 their symbolic connotation.
00:24:37 >> Yes. with waters with waters
00:24:39 representing revelation, sea
00:24:42 representing the unlawed the unlawful
00:24:46 masses
00:24:49 or the or the peoples.
00:24:52 >> Yeah, it can be. I think it’s people in
00:24:54 general.
00:24:56 >> Uh I do think it’s more used for
00:24:58 unlawful than lawful, but I do believe
00:25:00 it can be both. Mhm. [clears throat]
00:25:03 So here in Isaiah 11:9, they shall not
00:25:07 hurt nor destroy and all my holy
00:25:09 mountain. For the earth shall be full of
00:25:11 the knowledge of Yah as the waters cover
00:25:15 the sea. The waters are the revelation.
00:25:19 Uh how you know you would wonder how do
00:25:23 waters cover the sea? Well, if waters a
00:25:25 revelation and sea are the people.
00:25:28 >> Yes, I can go with that. Um, so Ben
00:25:32 mentioned before I started the
00:25:34 recording, he was talking about Isaiah
00:25:36 11:9 while I was talking about Jeremiah.
00:25:38 That’s why he was thinking Jeremiah. So
00:25:40 anyways, that’s fine.
00:25:42 >> So I I I will say just because it’s got
00:25:45 mountain, this is uh related to the
00:25:47 second coming but unrelated to the
00:25:49 shadow that I’m going over that when it
00:25:53 talks about how the antichrist is over
00:25:55 seven mountains, I don’t think it’s
00:25:57 seven mountains literal. I think it’s
00:25:59 seven nations, the seven horns,
00:26:05 >> right? And so when it talks about in my
00:26:07 holy mountain, he’s not talking necess
00:26:09 he’s not talking about uh mount a
00:26:12 literal mountain, but he’s talking about
00:26:15 his nation.
00:26:16 >> Yeah, he’s talking about Zion right
00:26:18 there.
00:26:20 >> So anyways, that’s a little sidetrack,
00:26:22 but it is related to the second coming
00:26:24 events, but still a sidetrack, right? So
00:26:27 >> yeah, it was it was a sidetrack, but I I
00:26:29 just wanted to show people that there
00:26:32 are verses where both sea and waters are
00:26:36 used together, and that’s when when
00:26:39 they’re used together. Waters represent
00:26:41 the revelation and the sea represents
00:26:44 the um the people. Uh we got to take
00:26:48 context in account, but at least it does
00:26:50 in that case. I don’t know if I will
00:26:51 give a general overall in that
00:26:53 statement, but I I can see how that
00:26:55 could be true. I’d want to double check,
00:26:57 but anyways, it does there with the uh
00:26:59 Isaiah 11:9 that Ben was referencing.
00:27:03 So, back to this uh the
00:27:07 uh second seal is World War II. Okay.
00:27:11 And just to show I have that on my
00:27:13 second coming page. Uh if I can find the
00:27:16 right button. There we go. Okay. So, the
00:27:20 second seal, World War II, or
00:27:24 uh the scriptures aren’t going to call
00:27:25 it World War II, but us knowing history
00:27:28 about World War I, World War II,
00:27:31 it makes sense to call it World War II,
00:27:34 right?
00:27:36 >> So, and DC87 talks about uh this, which
00:27:40 uh Ben and I have done two recordings.
00:27:42 The latest is the best. Obviously,
00:27:45 that’s generally the case, right?
00:27:48 >> Yeah.
00:27:50 There’s it was definitely the least
00:27:52 talking over each other in that one.
00:27:55 >> Well, there’s that. And also, we learned
00:27:56 a few things because of some critiques
00:27:58 of someone else that was going to
00:28:00 publish it and then decided not to. But
00:28:02 anyways, that’s another subject.
00:28:03 >> Um [laughter]
00:28:06 um but when you go look over this,
00:28:08 there’s a couple points to bring out uh
00:28:10 from Exodus 15 22 or 23 to 27. It talks
00:28:17 about 70 trees.
00:28:19 Now trees represent people or nations
00:28:23 >> and 70 definitely goes along with
00:28:27 nations, right? The 70 nations going
00:28:30 over the world.
00:28:32 >> Um, so that’s talking about the world,
00:28:37 right?
00:28:37 >> Mhm.
00:28:38 >> And then the 12 wells of water. So, in
00:28:43 my uh tabernacles recording, I bring out
00:28:47 how why there’s 12
00:28:50 uh breads of showbread in
00:28:53 the holy place is because 12 represents
00:28:58 governance and the turstrial people know
00:29:02 that Torah is supposed to govern them,
00:29:06 right? Going over the glories.
00:29:08 >> Yes.
00:29:09 >> And this is what’s going on here. 12
00:29:12 goes with governance and water.
00:29:14 Revelation here
00:29:18 12 wells.
00:29:20 Wells also are going into the ground.
00:29:27 It’s a prophecy about the Book of
00:29:28 Mormon. Yeah, I know people tell me I’m
00:29:30 stretching. I don’t believe I’m
00:29:31 stretching.
00:29:33 Mhm. The
00:29:34 >> Book of Mormon came out of the ground
00:29:36 and it’s going the Book of Mormon will
00:29:38 help the world know how to govern
00:29:41 themselves because it actually does
00:29:43 point to Torah. Every which is every
00:29:47 word of Yahw that is not a prescribed
00:29:50 punishment. Okay?
00:29:52 Such as the most famous one, law of
00:29:55 Moses. I’ll put a link you can study
00:29:57 that because that’s another site track.
00:29:59 His Torah and law of Moses are two
00:30:01 separate things.
00:30:02 >> Yes. law of Moses includes Torah in
00:30:06 addition to punishments. Okay? And the
00:30:08 punishment is what ended at the cross.
00:30:11 We’ll leave it at that.
00:30:13 >> Um so anyways,
00:30:15 >> and that’s that’s the primary difference
00:30:17 between the old and and uh as the Bible
00:30:22 puts it, the new covenant.
00:30:23 >> Correct. Um
00:30:26 because when you get into the JST
00:30:28 Genesis um I mean sorry Exodus 34 it it
00:30:33 uses the words old and new the old to
00:30:36 the law of Moses with the punishments
00:30:39 and the new without the punishments
00:30:42 Torah
00:30:45 >> it’s basically renewed to how it was in
00:30:48 the beginning from Adam.
00:30:50 >> Correct. Yes, I agree with that. Um so
00:30:53 anyways uh back to here the 12 wells
00:30:56 talks about governance by revelation aka
00:30:59 Torah right water well goes back to
00:31:03 Ezekiel 37 and among other verses how
00:31:06 the Bible and the Book of Mormon are
00:31:08 going to work together right because
00:31:10 it’s from the ground underneath it was
00:31:13 buried okay
00:31:16 um
00:31:18 oh and also the bitter water because
00:31:20 here I think it’s Uh, let me just
00:31:23 search.
00:31:24 Let’s try to trying to remember the
00:31:26 actual bitter waters. Bitter. I mean, I
00:31:30 I’ll tell you. I don’t know cuz I
00:31:33 haven’t gone through it yet, but I bet
00:31:34 World War II will be bitter.
00:31:39 Okay. Now, um,
00:31:44 throughout the scriptures, there’s a a
00:31:46 time called Jacob’s trouble.
00:31:50 It’s not all the seals. It’s the first
00:31:52 three. Just like in Moses’s time during
00:31:57 the 10 um oh, I’m forgetting the word
00:32:02 right now.
00:32:04 Plagues. The 10 plagues. The first three
00:32:06 Israel went through. Okay.
00:32:10 Well, during the second coming events,
00:32:12 the first three Israel will go through
00:32:14 also. Now, Israel are those who wrestle
00:32:17 with Yahw and men and overcome, meaning
00:32:21 they actually start following Yahweh’s
00:32:23 ways. Okay?
00:32:25 >> Now, there
00:32:28 because Yahw made a covenant with Jacob,
00:32:32 his descendants will receive multiple
00:32:34 opportunities to be a part of Israel.
00:32:37 >> Yeah. Uh through through their death
00:32:41 actually. Um
00:32:42 >> but in specific on second coming events
00:32:46 even through the trumpets and we’ll get
00:32:49 into that as we go through this. Um cuz
00:32:53 um there is the those who receive the
00:32:56 tstral kingdom when it starts. Some of
00:32:59 them will
00:33:01 convert more strongly after and we’ll
00:33:04 get into that as we go through this.
00:33:06 Okay.
00:33:06 >> Yeah. Um anyways, um and even the
00:33:10 scriptures, Revelation brings it out. I
00:33:13 I forget the chapter. I can look it up
00:33:14 real quick if you want, but um it does
00:33:17 bring out how there will be um and I
00:33:22 think it’s Revelations 11. I’ll have to
00:33:23 double check. Sorry. I’m well prepared
00:33:26 as you can see. Um that there will be
00:33:30 worshiping of Yahweh during the fifth
00:33:32 seal.
00:33:35 That’s because
00:33:38 there will be people of the tstral
00:33:43 going through the wrath. They were not
00:33:46 raptured.
00:33:48 Now, they’re going to worship period.
00:33:49 Now, some of them may
00:33:52 convert more strongly during that period
00:33:54 also. Okay? And we’ll leave it at that
00:33:56 for now until we get to that point. Um
00:33:59 but also
00:34:02 um there’s diseases. Now a disease is
00:34:05 about a war happening within your body.
00:34:10 >> Mhm.
00:34:11 >> Right. And it is interesting to me that
00:34:14 Yahweh promises if you keep Torah, he
00:34:17 won’t give the diseases that he gave
00:34:19 Egypt to the believers.
00:34:24 That sounds a little bit like um
00:34:28 Matthew 24,
00:34:30 how Yeshua prophesied that those who
00:34:32 reject Torah, their hearts will go cold.
00:34:36 And then thus
00:34:40 um when your heart goes cold to Torah,
00:34:43 you don’t love people because Torah is
00:34:45 all about love. And thus you’re going to
00:34:48 war with people, right? Mhm. And you’re
00:34:52 going to uh And you’re going to murder
00:34:54 people.
00:34:55 >> Yeah. Because that’s like the first part
00:34:58 of the moral commandments. Thou shalt
00:35:01 not murder. Uh that’s the sixth division
00:35:03 of Torah, right? It’s the first one.
00:35:06 Well, and I’m just going to point out
00:35:09 something. Um, that’s a fact of human
00:35:12 nature
00:35:14 that when we feel like we need to
00:35:17 survive,
00:35:20 unless we have yielded to the enticings
00:35:23 of the Holy Spirit and put off the
00:35:24 natural man, we will kill.
00:35:28 >> Yeah. Because you want something.
00:35:31 >> In fact, this gets into the kaisms of
00:35:34 Torah. Um,
00:35:37 but we won’t get into that because
00:35:38 that’s another sidetrack and we’re
00:35:40 trying to do a quick overview and it’s
00:35:42 already taking a long time.
00:35:44 >> So, I’ll put a link to my Torah page and
00:35:46 even the um I went over this in the um
00:35:52 tabernacles recording that we did
00:35:54 recently. So,
00:35:56 >> um it gets into more depth on that. 5.
00:35:58 So from
00:36:00 Exodus 15:2123
00:36:04 till the end of the chapter is the
00:36:07 second seal. Okay.
00:36:09 >> Yeah.
00:36:10 >> Um and hopefully
00:36:13 it’s maybe not quite obvious on the on
00:36:16 the surface level, but when you start
00:36:18 analyzing what’s actually kind of going
00:36:20 on here, it does make some sense. It
00:36:23 goes along with a world war because a
00:36:25 disease if nothing else goes along with
00:36:29 how they’re rejecting Torah and how
00:36:32 there’s
00:36:33 fighting within the whole body.
00:36:36 >> Yeah.
00:36:38 >> Like the whole body of humanity maybe.
00:36:41 H.
00:36:44 Anyways, so I I do understand how the
00:36:47 second seal on its own is not the
00:36:50 strongest, but when you put it in along
00:36:52 with the context of everything else,
00:36:54 like seal one, which I think is fairly
00:36:57 obvious, Egypt, USA falls,
00:37:00 right, which is the first seal, USA
00:37:03 civil war.
00:37:05 >> Mhm.
00:37:05 >> Did you want to say something, Ben?
00:37:07 >> Oh, no. No.
00:37:08 >> Okay. So, I I’m not going to go over a
00:37:11 whole bunch of uh Exodus 16, but Exodus
00:37:15 16 is event how um the Israelites were
00:37:19 hungry. Okay?
00:37:22 And because of their hunger and their
00:37:25 complaining,
00:37:27 hence uh trouble of Jacob,
00:37:30 third seal,
00:37:32 um
00:37:34 Moses or Yahweh through Moses or the
00:37:37 preparer provided his solution. Okay.
00:37:40 But um which was quail in the evening
00:37:45 which shows that the Sabbath hours from
00:37:48 sunrise to sunset and then mana every
00:37:52 day except the seventh and um it doesn’t
00:37:56 state here but when you put it all the
00:37:59 whole context of the all scriptures also
00:38:02 will exclude
00:38:05 um
00:38:07 moonly Sabbath. Okay.
00:38:10 Um, that’s a whole another subject. I’ll
00:38:12 put another uh link for that because we
00:38:14 don’t want to sidetrack too much. But
00:38:16 >> right,
00:38:18 >> um, let’s go back to my second coming
00:38:20 events page if I can find. Oh, there we
00:38:25 go. Um I do have the third sorry third
00:38:30 seal slaves rising up against their
00:38:33 masters and part of that especially in
00:38:35 DNC 87 and other places have to and
00:38:39 revelation 65-6 is because of hunger
00:38:43 right so I probably need to add hunger
00:38:46 there to make it a little more clear
00:38:49 >> something that we have talked about
00:38:51 >> the driving force of this famine
00:38:54 uh that is coming in the land uh
00:38:59 is going to be our unsustainable
00:39:02 uh way of living
00:39:06 and uh inflation.
00:39:10 >> Yeah. So there’s multiple parts of this.
00:39:12 Part of it is the money, right? Which
00:39:15 even if you analyze movies, which I
00:39:18 have,
00:39:19 uh it shows that, right? there’s going
00:39:22 to be a financial collapse which is
00:39:25 cause hunger where um I think revelation
00:39:30 6 brings out how you cannot buy or you
00:39:33 can you have to have a whole day’s ways
00:39:36 of wages to buy a day’s worth of wheat
00:39:40 if I remember correctly.
00:39:42 >> Yeah. To buy Yeah. to buy a loaf of
00:39:45 bread.
00:39:46 >> Okay, there you go. Okay, so I remember
00:39:49 close enough. But there’s a lot of
00:39:52 hunger going on. Uh which goes along
00:39:54 with why the slaves servants will be
00:39:58 rising against their masters or bosses,
00:40:01 right? Cuz
00:40:03 >> they’re not making enough money to
00:40:06 barely sustain life by having enough
00:40:09 bread to eat. Okay.
00:40:12 >> Yeah. If you there’s nothing that causes
00:40:14 rebellion in people like uh feeling like
00:40:18 they can’t survive in the current
00:40:19 system.
00:40:21 >> Yeah. And that’s the third seal which
00:40:24 goes along with um let me change the
00:40:27 screen share again with the mana
00:40:31 and quail in Exodus 16 because they’re
00:40:36 hungry, right?
00:40:38 >> Yep.
00:40:40 Huh? So, so far although we have to look
00:40:44 at the core of what’s going on, we have
00:40:48 uh seal one, two, and three, right?
00:40:51 >> Yeah. Now, one thing I have taught, I
00:40:55 think I can’t remember if it’s on
00:40:57 recordings or not. So, but Ben has heard
00:41:00 me say this, but
00:41:03 during the third seal, and I say this
00:41:06 because I see this in um Isaiah 49 and
00:41:11 Revelations 12, I’ll give links to
00:41:15 >> that’s when the mighty strong one’s
00:41:17 going to be birthed or come forth unto
00:41:20 the people. Okay.
00:41:22 which is going to be the end of the
00:41:25 trouble of Jacob because Jacob, Israel
00:41:29 is actually going to follow him, the
00:41:32 coming mighty and strong one who has not
00:41:35 become public yet because scriptures
00:41:38 Isaiah 49, Revelations 12, and now this
00:41:42 shadow in uh Exodus 17 brings out that’s
00:41:47 when he’s coming out part during the
00:41:51 third seal here. Okay.
00:41:54 >> So, um
00:41:57 >> just like Moses comes out with power,
00:42:00 smites the rock.
00:42:02 >> Yes. Now, guess what? Water, one of the
00:42:05 representation is water’s revelation.
00:42:08 One of the representations of the rock
00:42:10 is Yeshua. He’s going to bring
00:42:13 revelation from Yeshua
00:42:16 while he’s called. In addition through
00:42:18 here, guess what? He didn’t do that to
00:42:21 all the people. Moses did not hit the
00:42:24 rock in front of everybody.
00:42:26 >> But I don’t remember the verse, but we
00:42:29 we can use the search part. He did it in
00:42:33 front of the elders.
00:42:36 >> Yes.
00:42:37 >> Which goes along how I believe
00:42:41 that the mighty strong one will give
00:42:43 signs, a sign or signs. I’m more
00:42:46 inclined to think three because of what
00:42:48 Moses did earlier during the Exodus.
00:42:51 Three signs to the elders to prove that
00:42:55 he is who he claims to be. And those
00:42:58 elders will know what those signs need
00:43:00 to be.
00:43:01 >> Mhm.
00:43:03 And these elders are the elders of
00:43:05 Manasseh
00:43:08 who came to the USA or in other words
00:43:12 Native Americans, the Indians, whatever,
00:43:15 because some of them want to be called
00:43:17 one thing, one of them want to be called
00:43:18 another. So
00:43:21 >> um Okay.
00:43:23 >> Yeah.
00:43:24 >> But did so in the sight of the elders.
00:43:27 He didn’t cause the water to come out of
00:43:29 the rock in front of everybody in front
00:43:31 of the elders. That’s a sign which goes
00:43:33 along how the mighty strong will give a
00:43:35 sign to the elders
00:43:37 of the Native Americans.
00:43:42 >> Yeah. It’s not going to be to everybody,
00:43:44 >> right?
00:43:46 >> Not everybody will get to see the signs
00:43:47 and wonders.
00:43:49 >> No. Um, no. Sorry. There will be other
00:43:53 signs later that everybody will see like
00:43:56 the rapture. Right.
00:43:58 >> Right.
00:43:59 >> Among some other things. But anyways,
00:44:02 >> yeah, but it’s not going to be like it’s
00:44:04 not going to be like those silly left
00:44:05 behind movies say where people’s clothes
00:44:08 are getting left behind and they’re just
00:44:11 >> Yeah.
00:44:11 >> No, silly left behind movies.
00:44:14 >> Silly left behind movies.
00:44:16 >> Uh yeah, I I mean there’s a little bit
00:44:19 of truth sprinkled in those. I haven’t
00:44:21 seen them, but the little bit I know
00:44:22 them, there’s some truth sprinkled in
00:44:24 them, but uh they’re mostly uh manmade
00:44:28 traditions, like leaving your clothes
00:44:30 behind. We’re not supposed to be naked.
00:44:34 So, anyways, that’s a whole another
00:44:36 subject. [laughter]
00:44:39 >> Silly left behind movies.
00:44:41 >> Uh yeah, we’ll leave it at that. Um but
00:44:45 so this is this calling or this shadow
00:44:49 of the calling how he’s going to bring
00:44:52 revelation from Yahweh and he’s going to
00:44:55 give a sign if not signs to the elders
00:45:01 and along those points
00:45:04 the Native Americans believe their
00:45:06 elders.
00:45:08 If the elders say something is true,
00:45:10 they believe it. Which goes along with
00:45:12 what is stated in the Book of Mormon
00:45:13 about the Lammonites, okay?
00:45:17 >> They’ll believe and they just they need
00:45:21 to be directed by the right person. And
00:45:23 that will happen
00:45:26 sooner than later, especially with like
00:45:29 in modern definition of soon. Not
00:45:32 biblical definition of soon.
00:45:34 >> Not biblical soon.
00:45:36 >> Yes. Yes. because biblical sin can last
00:45:38 a long time, like 2,000 years.
00:45:43 Anyways, but
00:45:46 um
00:45:48 Exodus 17:1-7
00:45:50 goes
00:45:52 follows patterns with the calling of the
00:45:55 mighty and strong one. And the timing is
00:45:57 even correct because it’s before the
00:45:59 four seal.
00:46:01 >> Okay, there is nothing that says it
00:46:03 directly. It is a to use Ben’s good word
00:46:07 that he brought up during the recording.
00:46:09 It’s my hunch. It It is satisfying for
00:46:15 me to see this hunch confirmed
00:46:18 here in this shadow that I’m bringing
00:46:21 out here. Okay,
00:46:24 which somewhat goes along with the
00:46:26 birthing pains or the trouble of Jacob,
00:46:29 right? which shows that there’s going to
00:46:31 be some trouble, [clears throat]
00:46:33 >> hardships,
00:46:34 birthing pain. I I mean, I’ve never had
00:46:36 a baby before, but I I’ve had an ex-wife
00:46:39 that has twice. It’s not easy to have a
00:46:43 child, okay?
00:46:45 You go through some pains.
00:46:49 Um, which kind of goes along with how
00:46:52 the first three
00:46:57 uh plagues, sorry, plagues during the um
00:47:01 10 plagues of Moses affected Israel
00:47:05 also. First three during the second
00:47:08 coming events will also affect Israel.
00:47:11 Okay.
00:47:14 Okay. So then my next one uh the four
00:47:19 seals starts with Exodus 8.
00:47:23 Now uh 8 through Exodus 17 8-16
00:47:29 is how there’s a war.
00:47:33 Mhm.
00:47:35 >> And now this is a favorite passage to
00:47:39 use for faith because Moses raised his
00:47:42 arms and then uh Israel when Moses arms
00:47:46 got tired and he went down
00:47:49 uh the enemy the amch
00:47:54 one, right? I’m I’m sure I said that.
00:47:56 >> Which is why it is so important that the
00:48:00 mighty and strong one have helpers.
00:48:03 Yes. But as in because in here it was
00:48:07 Aaron and her that was holding up the
00:48:10 mighty strong one to help him. And later
00:48:15 on it gets in other scriptures it gets
00:48:17 obvious that Aaron’s the religious
00:48:19 helper and hers the civil helper. But
00:48:22 that’s a whole another subject. Right.
00:48:24 >> Right.
00:48:24 >> Um but they were helping the mighty
00:48:27 strong one. Okay. Um which goes along
00:48:30 with faith. If you’re um holding strong
00:48:36 to what Yahweh said to do, then what his
00:48:41 he said the results would be will
00:48:43 happen. Right? This is an example of
00:48:46 faith
00:48:48 because the Amalikites
00:48:51 did know when Moses was holding his arm
00:48:53 up with help or not.
00:48:56 >> Yeah.
00:48:57 >> They wouldn’t be looking at Moses.
00:48:59 That’s crazy.
00:49:00 Yeah. If you’re in a life and death
00:49:03 sword fight with somebody else, are you
00:49:04 going to be looking up on a hill?
00:49:06 >> Yeah. Especially their leader who’s just
00:49:08 holding his arm off or not and then
00:49:10 sitting in a in the seat of Moses.
00:49:12 Anyways, that’s a whole another subject,
00:49:15 which gets uh related in the New
00:49:17 Testament, but we’ll leave that one
00:49:18 alone.
00:49:20 >> Yeah. Uh but so so yeah, you’re if
00:49:24 you’re in a life and death struggle uh
00:49:27 in hand-tohand combat, you are not you
00:49:30 are looking at the person who has a
00:49:32 weapon who could kill you.
00:49:34 >> Yeah, you’re not looking at some other
00:49:36 guy up on a hill. I guess you’re too
00:49:38 busy MAKING [laughter]
00:49:39 WELL, HELL. I I’M SORRY. HELL, why the
00:49:43 hell would you be looking at someone
00:49:45 else while you’re trying to stay alive?
00:49:47 Okay. Yeah. Now,
00:49:50 uh, [snorts]
00:49:50 this goes along with the first part, the
00:49:53 first thing that happens in the fourth
00:49:56 seal, death.
00:50:00 >> Mhm. the roaring lions
00:50:04 or as DNC87 brings up which I have the
00:50:07 recording how the I can’t I can’t
00:50:10 remember the natives or it’s basically
00:50:12 the Native Americans the Indians taking
00:50:15 back their land
00:50:17 >> and they will be death to those who will
00:50:20 not live Torah
00:50:22 >> correct
00:50:22 >> that are within it
00:50:24 >> or won’t recognize that it’s the um
00:50:28 tribe of Manass’s And right so even if
00:50:32 you keep Torah but you don’t recognize
00:50:34 that there’s a problem that but even on
00:50:36 that
00:50:38 uh Torah Genesis uh 48 through 50 brings
00:50:43 out how Joseph’s going to go over the
00:50:47 fence
00:50:49 >> exactly
00:50:50 >> which is sorry it’s the USA I mean
00:50:55 if you know how to look at these things
00:50:57 these images correctly they all point to
00:51:01 this.
00:51:02 >> Well, and especially if you’re looking
00:51:04 at the especially if you’re looking at
00:51:06 the word of Elohim in a light to of
00:51:09 reconciliation
00:51:11 versus uh
00:51:14 um advers in instead of setting it as an
00:51:17 adversary against itself,
00:51:19 >> right? Yes. If you try to figure out how
00:51:22 these things connect together, looking
00:51:24 at it a different angle, they all fit
00:51:26 together, right?
00:51:28 Okay. So, um the next thing, let’s go
00:51:32 back to here. And this is just, you
00:51:35 know, overview because we’re not getting
00:51:36 into too many details. Uh Exodus 18
00:51:40 because that’s after
00:51:43 >> obviously it it’s 181
00:51:47 12. Okay.
00:51:49 >> And this is Jeffro, the father-in-law of
00:51:52 Moses bringing uh Moses’s wife and his
00:51:56 two sons. Okay, this goes along with the
00:52:00 idea and prophecy how the father Yahweh
00:52:05 Elohim will bring his church
00:52:09 and others
00:52:11 his the church of the firstborn and
00:52:13 others to Zion.
00:52:16 So here’s a father bringing others to in
00:52:20 the prophetic timeline of Zion right
00:52:23 after the roaring lions bringing a
00:52:26 father bringing
00:52:28 the church of the fourth firstborn and
00:52:31 others to Zion which goes along with
00:52:33 prophetic elements about
00:52:36 >> would this uh also not fall in line with
00:52:40 um kings shall be thy nursing fathers
00:52:43 and queens their queens thy nursing
00:52:45 mothers and they shall bear their
00:52:46 children to you on their arms in their
00:52:48 arms.
00:52:50 >> I could see that. We’d have to analyze
00:52:52 that a little more, but I can see
00:52:53 >> Yeah, I that’s that I’m I’m I’m just
00:52:56 like there might be a connection there.
00:52:58 >> I I could see that. This is where I I
00:53:01 I’ve completely admitted I I have the
00:53:03 basic overview, but I need to get in
00:53:05 some of more of the details, right?
00:53:08 >> Um so that could go along with some of
00:53:10 the riches, right, that happens that I
00:53:12 have on the second coming page. And then
00:53:14 somewhere in here
00:53:17 I I have where people are coming to
00:53:20 Zion. I can’t find it right now.
00:53:24 >> Oh, it’s probably in Zion, New
00:53:25 Jerusalem. Uh
00:53:27 >> there [laughter] we go.
00:53:28 >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, there’s the temple.
00:53:30 We’ll get in that later in a minute. Um
00:53:34 actually, but uh Oh, all nations will
00:53:37 come to the temple to worship Yahweh.
00:53:39 >> That’s actually what Isaiah 2 is. Oh, I
00:53:41 have it here, too. It’s also in Micah.
00:53:45 >> Uh, do I have Micah here? Oh, there I
00:53:47 have Micah right there. So, I have a lot
00:53:50 here. I just can’t remember it off the
00:53:51 top of my head. [laughter] So, I have
00:53:53 two Micah 4 and Malachi
00:53:56 3. So, but those are different. But, uh,
00:53:58 he’s going to go talking about that one.
00:54:00 But, this is how people are going to go
00:54:02 to the mountain of Yahweh. Okay.
00:54:06 >> Um, and that’s because the temple’s
00:54:08 going to be built and we’ll talk about
00:54:09 that in a minute. But all these people
00:54:12 are coming to Zion. Um I I tend to
00:54:16 believe that uh Moses’s wife represents
00:54:19 the church of the firstborn. Hence in
00:54:22 the covenant because marriage and is
00:54:25 connected to being covenanted with
00:54:28 Yahweh, right?
00:54:30 >> Yeah. Hence the wife. And then the two
00:54:32 sons
00:54:34 um we could analyze the name some. And
00:54:36 this is their name some. This is where
00:54:38 it could I I need to do a little more
00:54:40 thought on but we won’t focus on that
00:54:42 now. Okay. But um it’s definitely the
00:54:46 worldgoing design. Okay. One way or
00:54:49 another. Okay. Okay. And then uh 18
00:54:53 Exodus 18:13-27.
00:54:59 Uh, I mean, we’re not going to read them
00:55:01 all, but this goes along with how the
00:55:04 mighty strong was then going to start
00:55:07 teaching others to be leaders, too.
00:55:10 Because this goes along with how um,
00:55:12 Jethro, uh, Moses’s father-in-law saw
00:55:16 that how Moses was doing all the
00:55:18 judgments and it was bearing a toll on
00:55:21 Moses, right? It was too much for Moses
00:55:24 to bear on his own. And Jethro is like,
00:55:27 “Dude,
00:55:29 you got to get some help.”
00:55:31 >> Yeah. Yeah. And later, I forget where,
00:55:34 but later in in the five books of Moses,
00:55:37 uh, it comes out that Yahweh confirms
00:55:38 that. Yes. And so Moses does it, right?
00:55:42 But this is bringing out how he’s
00:55:44 starting the church, like actual
00:55:47 structured
00:55:48 organization
00:55:51 in Zion,
00:55:53 like maybe the church of the firstborn.
00:55:56 Yeah. No way. What?
00:56:00 [laughter]
00:56:01 >> Yeah.
00:56:03 Anyways, I mean to me it makes sense,
00:56:04 right? Because he’s calling teachers and
00:56:06 leaders and that’s part of the church.
00:56:10 >> The job as a church is when someone’s
00:56:12 converted to Yahweh is to completely
00:56:14 fully bring them to Yeshua, which is the
00:56:18 fullness of gospel, sanctification
00:56:21 or celestial glory. actually fully
00:56:24 keeping Torah where the preparatory
00:56:26 gospel missionary work is to bring them
00:56:29 to believe in Yeshua
00:56:32 so that way they they will want to keep
00:56:35 his ways. Right.
00:56:36 >> Absolutely.
00:56:38 >> Yeah. Anyways, okay. So
00:56:41 I I don’t know any prophecy off top of
00:56:44 my head that actually talks about the
00:56:46 leadership in Zion. Well, there’s a
00:56:48 little bit in Isaiah 66 about how the
00:56:51 Gentiles can be priests and that goes
00:56:53 along with church governance.
00:56:56 So, there’s one there that I just
00:56:58 remembered, but on some of the other
00:57:00 specifics, I don’t know any off top of
00:57:02 my head right now other than
00:57:04 >> that the quick verse. I can’t really
00:57:06 even remember the verse number, but it’s
00:57:07 Isaiah 66. There’s more on the there’s
00:57:12 more on the government of Zion in modern
00:57:15 revelation than in Bible.
00:57:18 >> Uh yes, but um just because I have this
00:57:22 Torah in the millennium page that been
00:57:24 actually helped out some with.
00:57:27 >> Um I do have Isaiah 66 here under the
00:57:30 fifth division of Torah or fifth
00:57:33 commandment which deals with church
00:57:35 government.
00:57:37 uh third, fourth,
00:57:40 fifth, which Isaiah 16, I mean sorry,
00:57:43 Isaiah 66:19-21
00:57:46 deals with the Gentiles shall be
00:57:47 priests.
00:57:48 >> Yeah.
00:57:49 >> And le Levites, right? Or doing things
00:57:52 that the lesser priesthood is to do, not
00:57:56 the higher. which
00:57:59 um goes along with how one of the
00:58:01 punishments at Mount Si and you can see
00:58:04 this even just before that all
00:58:07 firstborns were to give to Yahweh.
00:58:11 Uh but then it was just the Levites and
00:58:15 but then there’s a way to redeem the
00:58:17 firstborn because it wasn’t initially
00:58:20 supposed to be that way because that was
00:58:21 a punishment because the Levites are the
00:58:23 ones that came forth and repented from
00:58:25 their sin from Mount Si. Um but anyways,
00:58:29 that’s a whole another subject. So we’ll
00:58:31 leave it at that unless Ben wants to say
00:58:33 more.
00:58:34 >> I’m I’m good.
00:58:36 >> Okay. So let’s go back to our shadow. So
00:58:41 that’s to the end of um Exodus 18, which
00:58:45 is um part of the four seill, right?
00:58:48 Building at the church of the forborn.
00:58:51 >> Yeah.
00:58:52 >> And I’m not getting the arrows. So I
00:58:54 don’t know why it does it sometimes.
00:58:56 Sometimes. So Exodus 19.
00:59:01 Um
00:59:02 I have scouting out the people. So let
00:59:06 me pause one second. Okay.
00:59:12 Okay. So, this goes along with how um
00:59:15 the preparer Moses or the mighty and
00:59:18 strong one is
00:59:20 making the people holy. Okay.
00:59:24 >> He’s bringing them starting to give them
00:59:26 the Torah covenant of Yahweh to the
00:59:30 people. Okay.
00:59:32 Um so, we could go through it, but we
00:59:34 could just read the makoni heading real
00:59:36 quick. um Yahweh covenants to make
00:59:39 Israel a particular treasure and they’re
00:59:42 a treasure because they’re keeping Torah
00:59:44 or striving to some of them anyways,
00:59:46 right? A kingdom of priests.
00:59:50 So people who are actually trying to
00:59:52 keep his ways, right? And teaching it to
00:59:54 others.
00:59:55 >> Oh yeah. Well, that’s an entire kingdom
00:59:57 of priests, not just Levite priests.
01:00:01 >> Yes. Because this includes everybody
01:00:03 because law of Moses where it was only
01:00:05 Levites has done away with at the cross.
01:00:07 Okay. Which uh Paul brings out among
01:00:11 other scriptures and a holy nation. Oh
01:00:14 like maybe Zion maybe.
01:00:17 >> Oh. Oh may
01:00:19 >> the people sanctify themselves as in
01:00:21 actually keeping the law and Yahweh
01:00:24 appears at Mount Si amid fire and smoke
01:00:27 and earthquakes. Okay. So we’ll get in
01:00:30 that. Well actually okay um where
01:00:36 Yahweh appears and this where Yahweh
01:00:39 will appear uh in Zion during
01:00:43 during the fourth seal. Okay. um which
01:00:46 is Adamandoi but there’s a later Exodus
01:00:51 24 is a better type in shadow of that
01:00:55 but this is preparing people for that
01:00:57 which the mighty strong one’s going to
01:01:00 be doing right
01:01:02 >> yep
01:01:04 >> um so
01:01:06 uh that one is not specifically in
01:01:08 prophecy that I’m aware of but it makes
01:01:11 sense that it needs to happen it just
01:01:14 it’s logical
01:01:15 Right.
01:01:17 >> Yeah. There’s
01:01:20 Yeah. Logic logic logic states
01:01:25 that that need that that needs to be a
01:01:29 high priority.
01:01:30 >> Yeah. Yeah. Because if they’re going to
01:01:32 be one as a people, they have to be
01:01:34 unified in what they need to do, which
01:01:37 uh we are to be unified in Yahweh’s
01:01:39 ways, not our own man-made ways. Because
01:01:44 it’s an opinion. If it’s man’s ways,
01:01:46 it’s an opinion. So why is that opinion
01:01:49 more important than someone else’s? So,
01:01:52 >> yep.
01:01:53 >> Okay. So, Exodus 19 through 20 is giving
01:01:58 of Torah, which is actually going to
01:02:01 happen during the fourth seal, including
01:02:04 by translating the brass plates. Right.
01:02:08 >> Yeah.
01:02:09 >> Now, um somewhere in 19
01:02:14 It’s near. Okay. Uh, it’s verse 18
01:02:18 because I didn’t write this in the
01:02:19 notes, but they talk about how this law
01:02:22 is too hard and they don’t want to hear
01:02:25 the word of Yahweh themselves, right?
01:02:27 So, it looks like it’s 18 through
01:02:30 probably 21, right? And so, they wanted
01:02:33 Moses to talk to Yahweh and then Moses
01:02:35 to repeat it because they were not ready
01:02:38 to hear Yahweh’s words directly because
01:02:41 they’re sinners. Sorry. Um,
01:02:45 but this also goes along with prophecy
01:02:48 about Zion. I can’t remember if it’s
01:02:51 Revelations 12 or Isaiah 49. It’s one of
01:02:54 those two among other places that brings
01:02:56 out how those who come to Zion are going
01:02:58 to say that Torah is too hard to keep.
01:03:03 >> So, there’s a little side thing here 18
01:03:06 through 21, uh, Exodus 20, how Torah is
01:03:09 too hard to keep.
01:03:11 >> Yep.
01:03:12 which goes along with prophetic
01:03:15 statements about people in Zion, right?
01:03:20 Y
01:03:21 >> um so that goes along with prophecy. Um
01:03:25 Exodus 24:1. So we’re going to skip this
01:03:30 a little bit because um I I have brought
01:03:33 up a kaism. In fact, maybe I’ll just
01:03:34 show this real quick.
01:03:37 Uh oh, I got to open it first. I have
01:03:40 brought out a kaism that I need to
01:03:42 publish and talk about from Exodus 20
01:03:46 through 23
01:03:48 of giving of the law. I I’ve showed Ben
01:03:51 a little bit of it.
01:03:52 >> Yeah, you show. Yeah, I I did see that
01:03:55 kayazm and that is uh
01:03:59 because I think one of the important
01:04:02 aspects of that
01:04:04 is that the giving of the law didn’t
01:04:06 stop when the people said
01:04:09 uh Moses you talk to him. Yeah. No, it
01:04:13 did not.
01:04:15 So the the 10 that they got were the
01:04:18 very basic understandings and then Moses
01:04:21 got some deeper understandings that then
01:04:23 he was supposed to give them. Right. Oh,
01:04:26 I got a where did I put it? Sorry, I
01:04:29 have too much here.
01:04:33 >> Oh, there it is. So, um I I will be
01:04:37 publishing this soon, but there’s a
01:04:40 kaizen from Exodus 20 through 20 through
01:04:43 the end of 23 and it it it completely
01:04:45 matches. And the things that I didn’t
01:04:48 know why there were uh companion
01:04:50 stanzas. I have figured out why, but
01:04:52 I’ll do that deal with that in the post
01:04:55 I hope to have out soon on that. But
01:04:57 anyways, but giving a tour that’s a big
01:05:00 deal about the fourth seal, right? and
01:05:03 bring out the brass plates. Okay. Among
01:05:08 uh the sealed portion.
01:05:10 Okay. Um so we’ll leave it at that. Um
01:05:15 because we’re trying to do somewhat
01:05:17 quick highlights cuz if we go too much
01:05:20 deep on everything, it’ll take too long,
01:05:22 right?
01:05:23 >> But during the four seal Torah is going
01:05:25 to be fully revealed. Okay.
01:05:29 >> The go ahead.
01:05:31 >> Yeah. the fullness of this is actually
01:05:33 promised to us in Doctrine and Covenant
01:05:35 section 121.
01:05:37 >> Uh, okay, let me pause and we can find
01:05:40 that exact verse real quick.
01:05:43 Okay, so we found the verse that Ben was
01:05:45 thinking of in DNC 121. I’ll let him uh
01:05:49 >> okay so it’s a it’s a series of uh it’s
01:05:52 a series of verses but here is but it
01:05:56 starts here in verse 26
01:05:59 which is Elohim shall give unto you
01:06:02 knowledge by his holy spirit and both
01:06:06 Stephen and I have loads of material
01:06:09 upon about how the holy spirit is to
01:06:11 world
01:06:12 >> yes in fact I’m almost done with a post
01:06:15 where that’s the focus and I have
01:06:19 I I I could show I have tons of verses.
01:06:22 So,
01:06:22 >> yeah. So, yeah. So, Elohim shall give
01:06:25 you knowledge by his holy spirit. Yeah.
01:06:27 By the unspeakable gift of the Holy
01:06:29 Ghost.
01:06:30 >> Well, it’s the same uh tomato tomorrow.
01:06:33 >> Right. But I do love that that how it
01:06:36 talks about Torah Torah as an
01:06:38 unspeakable gift. I love it. Uh that has
01:06:42 not been revealed since.
01:06:43 >> Yeah. And that goes along just real
01:06:44 quick, Elma 129 through 111 among other
01:06:48 places that you can only share what what
01:06:50 someone’s um able to or ready to
01:06:53 receive. But anyway,
01:06:54 >> yeah,
01:06:55 >> except what it’s supposed to give to
01:06:56 everybody, right? Cuz
01:06:59 >> that has not been revealed since the
01:07:01 world was until now,
01:07:04 which our forefathers have awaited with
01:07:06 anxious expectation to be revealed in
01:07:09 the last times, which their minds were
01:07:12 pointed to by the angels or messengers.
01:07:16 >> So this last times goes with the um
01:07:20 latter days. Mhm.
01:07:22 >> The latter days. No,
01:07:25 >> the latter days are the end times.
01:07:28 >> Yeah. Yes. Um,
01:07:31 yes, it’s the latter part of the last
01:07:34 days, which is the times of the
01:07:36 Gentiles. So, this statement is correct.
01:07:40 Um, it’s just
01:07:43 I I I hindsight I
01:07:48 it might have been better said the
01:07:49 latter times than the last times, but uh
01:07:55 he was talking to people during the last
01:07:58 at the
01:08:00 part a little bit before the latter
01:08:02 days, right? Or times. So, I I can see
01:08:05 why he did that did it that way. I’ll
01:08:08 put links to uh pages that Ben helped me
01:08:11 with the last days and latter days that
01:08:14 kind of gives more details on that.
01:08:15 Okay. Which our forefathers have awaited
01:08:18 with anxious expectation to be revealed
01:08:21 in the last times which their minds were
01:08:24 pointed to by the angels or messengers
01:08:26 as held in reserve for the fullness of
01:08:28 their glory. A time to come in which
01:08:32 nothing shall be without.
01:08:35 Wait, what’s going to be held? Withheld?
01:08:38 >> Nothing.
01:08:39 >> Okay, [laughter] I just wanted to make
01:08:41 sure I understood that right. So,
01:08:43 nothing’s going to be withheld.
01:08:45 >> Whether there be one god or many gods,
01:08:47 they shall be manifest. So, there are
01:08:50 things that are just going to be that
01:08:52 that we don’t know that are just we’re
01:08:54 just going to have to wait.
01:08:56 >> Now, um so I will just say this real
01:08:59 quickly uh because this is a big
01:09:00 sidetrack. The Hebrew word behind God is
01:09:04 Elohim. Mhm.
01:09:07 >> And that means judge.
01:09:10 So
01:09:12 in Yeshua in the New Testament and
01:09:15 David, I think it’s David in the Psalms
01:09:17 because most of the Psalms is David. I I
01:09:19 can’t I don’t know this verse off the
01:09:20 top of my head, but there are multiple
01:09:23 Elohims under the main Elohim or judges.
01:09:27 >> Yahweh has multiple judges. And mortal
01:09:30 men are judges even according Torah and
01:09:33 even just civil law. We’ll just leave it
01:09:35 at that for now.
01:09:36 >> Yeah. So all these all these things will
01:09:39 be manifest.
01:09:40 >> Yeah. Yeah. So there’ll be judges and
01:09:42 the Greek translation of Elohim to God
01:09:45 has caused lots of problems. I’ll leave
01:09:47 it at that. [clears throat]
01:09:48 >> Yep. All thrones and dominions,
01:09:50 principalities and powers shall be
01:09:52 revealed and set forth upon all who have
01:09:54 endured upon all who have endured
01:09:57 valiantly. for the gospel of Yeshua
01:10:01 Hamashiach.
01:10:02 >> And so Ben, uh you tell us quickly what
01:10:05 does valiantly mean? Cuz some of us
01:10:08 might not.
01:10:09 >> That means uh what it does not mean is
01:10:12 that you desert it when it’s not
01:10:15 popular. What it does mean is that you
01:10:18 stand
01:10:21 to stand on something even if it would
01:10:25 cost you your life.
01:10:26 >> Yeah. So like the last part of sermon on
01:10:29 Torah, Matthew 7. Or in other words, you
01:10:32 were diligent even when it was hard
01:10:34 maybe.
01:10:35 >> Yes.
01:10:36 >> Okay, I’ll leave it at that.
01:10:38 >> So that’s what it means to endure
01:10:40 valiantly for the gospel of Yeshua
01:10:42 Hamashiach. That does that mean that you
01:10:45 endure valiantly against Torah?
01:10:50 >> Yeah, it did. To endure valiantly means
01:10:53 you keep Torah because Torah is Yahweh’s
01:10:56 ways. Yeshua’s
01:10:58 >> what is it that what is it that Yah says
01:11:01 to Joshua as he’s about to lead the
01:11:03 people in he tells him to keep the law
01:11:06 >> and to be and to be of good courage.
01:11:09 >> Yeah. Well, I I want to in fact this
01:11:11 one’s a big deal. I’m going to sidetrack
01:11:13 of this track
01:11:16 on that one because I I I make a big
01:11:19 deal about that one is written
01:11:21 as it’s written, according to all that
01:11:24 which is written. Oh,
01:11:28 >> let me let me make this bigger. Um
01:11:33 20.
01:11:35 >> Okay. According to all that which is
01:11:38 written, not false traditions of men.
01:11:41 >> Yeah. Yeah. You’re you’re supposed to
01:11:44 you’re supposed to act and we’re
01:11:46 supposed to act according to what is
01:11:48 written. No, not what people say.
01:11:51 >> Yeah. Not what people and not uh
01:11:53 whatever flight of fancy happens to be
01:11:55 tickling somebody’s pickle on a certain
01:11:57 day.
01:11:58 >> You mean like Satan tickling our ears,
01:12:01 >> right?
01:12:02 >> Oh, okay. All right. Okay. [laughter]
01:12:03 Moving on.
01:12:09 >> Okay. Uh I think we just did 29. Did you
01:12:11 want to do more? Um,
01:12:14 and I think that’s sufficient
01:12:17 because this you can clearly see that
01:12:19 he’s talking about the revelation of
01:12:22 everything.
01:12:23 >> Well, yeah. Holy Spirit, Torah, uh,
01:12:26 other places. Oh, wait. Um, the mighty
01:12:28 strong or uh, Elisha or Elihas.
01:12:37 I’m
01:12:38 >> Elias.
01:12:39 >> Elias. Sorry. I have a hard time.
01:12:42 >> Elisha and Elijah,
01:12:44 you could be talking about those two as
01:12:46 well.
01:12:46 >> Well, no, it’s Elias. That’s the one I
01:12:48 wanted. Sorry.
01:12:49 >> Uh, he’s to restore all things, which is
01:12:51 another word for Torah. I or phrase for
01:12:54 Torah. I’ll put it in the links.
01:12:56 >> Um, which goes along with the Holy
01:12:58 Spirit, Holy Ghost, which, um, anyways,
01:13:01 we’ll leave it at that.
01:13:02 >> Well, I will say that contextually,
01:13:05 uh, all things can mean Torah.
01:13:07 >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, we need context cuz
01:13:09 sometimes it doesn’t mean Torah. So yes,
01:13:12 Ben is that’s a good correction, an
01:13:14 important correction that Bang brings
01:13:15 out. It’s got to depending on context. I
01:13:18 agree with that. I got a little lazy.
01:13:20 Sorry. Um so anyways, so another thing
01:13:25 that happens during the fourth seal is
01:13:27 Adamandai Almond. Okay. So uh and that
01:13:32 has to do with uh chapter 24. We’ll just
01:13:35 read the makoni heading. I it take it
01:13:38 with a grain of salt. But Israel accepts
01:13:40 the word of Yahweh by covenant. Moses
01:13:43 sprinkles the blood of the covenant. He
01:13:46 Aaron and some other people 70 the 70 of
01:13:50 the elders of Israel see Elohim. Oh wait
01:13:54 a minute. Wait what? What? So why in
01:13:57 John then does it say that no man in the
01:14:00 in the King James version does it say
01:14:02 that no man has seen God at any time?
01:14:05 So, um, it’s in this case, I don’t know
01:14:08 if that’s a bad translation or bad
01:14:11 manuscript.
01:14:12 Um, but the King James Bible as we
01:14:17 currently have it does contradict each
01:14:19 other on some things. This is one
01:14:22 instance of that because here
01:14:25 uh Moses, a few others and 70 elders saw
01:14:30 Yahweh
01:14:32 and actually ate with him, right? Um
01:14:35 >> Yeah. Yeah.
01:14:39 >> But
01:14:40 >> pretty strange for nobody for nobody
01:14:42 ever having seen him.
01:14:44 >> Yeah. So, Joseph Smith translation fixes
01:14:47 that in their sins. Okay. Yes.
01:14:51 >> Um, yeah. Cuz if you see him in your
01:14:53 sins, you will get destroyed because you
01:14:56 can’t handle his glory.
01:14:59 Nor will you want to because you don’t
01:15:01 like his ways cuz you like your sins
01:15:04 more than him. Well, I mean, it’s kind
01:15:06 of like what happened to Lot’s wife when
01:15:08 she turned back to Sodom. She became a
01:15:10 pillar of salt.
01:15:12 >> Yes. And there’s multiple symbolisms in
01:15:15 the angles on that symbolisms, but we
01:15:17 won’t deal with that for now. But yes,
01:15:20 >> um
01:15:21 >> yeah, I wasn’t trying to sidet track. I
01:15:23 was just
01:15:24 >> Yeah. Yeah, that’s fine. Link to another
01:15:27 recording that we have. Um but
01:15:31 part of Adam on Almond or Daniel 7 is
01:15:35 Yahweh coming down and people seeing
01:15:38 him, right?
01:15:39 >> Yeah.
01:15:40 >> Oh, wait a minute. Moses, Aaron, and
01:15:43 others including 70 elders of Israel see
01:15:47 Elohim. Could it’s not a stretch to say
01:15:51 that that goes with goes with Adam on
01:15:54 Diam is it?
01:15:56 >> I I I don’t think so.
01:15:58 >> No, I don’t think so either.
01:16:00 >> Okay.
01:16:01 >> Because when we look at what is promised
01:16:05 about the Adamic meeting,
01:16:08 it falls directly in line with
01:16:10 >> Yes. Now, this does happen during the
01:16:13 fourth seal, and I do believe it’s the
01:16:17 last, and I have scriptures on the
01:16:20 second coming page. Let’s go get that up
01:16:22 real quick, just so you can see, so you
01:16:25 know, I’m not just making this up.
01:16:28 Um, that’s going to happen during
01:16:32 Pentecost,
01:16:34 uh, the last Pentecost
01:16:37 during, uh, the fourth seal. Okay. Um,
01:16:40 which goes along with how
01:16:44 uh the beginning of the four seals
01:16:46 starts at Passover, unleavened bread.
01:16:49 Um, the high holidays, all the seven
01:16:53 high holidays deal with uh important
01:16:55 events during the second coming
01:16:58 events, not just the fall ones that is
01:17:01 commonly pushed out there with Hebrews.
01:17:05 Okay? It’s all seven of them. Okay. And
01:17:11 this one
01:17:13 um happens during Pentecost, the last
01:17:16 Pentecost during the fourth seal. Okay.
01:17:20 >> Um
01:17:22 >> and then after this there’s multiple
01:17:25 chapters
01:17:27 um uh chapters to be specific 25- 27
01:17:33 and 30-31-1
01:17:36 dealing with the temple.
01:17:40 Okay. Now, one thing that happens at the
01:17:43 temple is animal sacrifice,
01:17:46 which
01:17:47 um uh goes along with uh let me go back
01:17:52 to my second coming page.
01:17:55 animal sacrifices coming back
01:17:58 >> which goes along it’s a moon and a half
01:18:03 after Pentecost which goes along with
01:18:08 the numbers of Daniel in Daniel 12.
01:18:11 Okay. And how
01:18:15 uh Moses started animal sacrifice the
01:18:18 minute and a half after um tabernacles.
01:18:23 M
01:18:24 >> there’s a historical precedence for this
01:18:26 that goes along with the numbers of
01:18:27 Daniel uh bringing back Torah animal
01:18:32 sacrifice not law of Moses sacrifice
01:18:35 which is the two daily lambs. Okay.
01:18:40 But also with that there’s a kayaism
01:18:43 because I told you two ranges
01:18:45 of
01:18:47 um passages of scriptures, right? I said
01:18:50 uh Exodus 25- 27. And I’m looking at my
01:18:52 notes. And then 30 through 31:11. In
01:18:56 between that, Exodus 28:29
01:19:00 there is uh talk about sanctifying of
01:19:04 the priests
01:19:06 >> which goes along with Malachi how uh the
01:19:10 mighty and strong one will sanctify the
01:19:13 priests so that they can offer an offer
01:19:17 in righteousness. Right.
01:19:19 >> Right. Now of when it talks about the
01:19:22 mighty and strong ones sanctifying the
01:19:24 priests that means that he teaches them
01:19:27 those things which must those things
01:19:29 which they must do in order that Yahwa
01:19:33 may sanctify them.
01:19:34 >> Yeah. Yes. And not just teaches them
01:19:37 that helps them through in keeping it
01:19:40 >> and being a shepherd
01:19:42 >> as in uh actually Revelations 12 brings
01:19:46 out. Um, yeah, when you look at the
01:19:48 Greek, because that is from my
01:19:50 translation, but I I give support for
01:19:52 that and I’ll give a link to that. It’s
01:19:54 a shepherd,
01:19:55 >> not but anyways. And a shepherd, the
01:19:59 reason this matters because a shepherd
01:20:02 um
01:20:04 cares about the sheep and he really is
01:20:07 there to help them rather than to be
01:20:10 like in modern terms um manager or a
01:20:14 boss who just bosses them and tells them
01:20:17 to do things rather than a leader who
01:20:20 works with them. Right. So,
01:20:22 >> right. It’s an important difference and
01:20:26 the Greek actually supports that as does
01:20:28 the Hebrew. But in my post I only focus
01:20:31 on the Greek because that’s the most
01:20:34 common manuscript that people go off of.
01:20:36 Right. So
01:20:37 >> yes, and the reason I bring that up is
01:20:40 simply that just in case anyone thinks
01:20:44 that one man can sanctify another,
01:20:48 it’s what he’s doing is simply providing
01:20:51 the means and encouragement and
01:20:56 >> and shephering
01:20:58 >> and shephering them towards
01:21:00 sanctification.
01:21:01 >> Correct. Okay. So, and and and those are
01:21:05 events. Most of those events that we
01:21:08 talked about are actually in prophecy
01:21:12 are going to happen, right? There’s a
01:21:15 couple that I brought out how it just
01:21:17 makes logical sense that they need to
01:21:20 happen
01:21:21 >> and but most of them are actually
01:21:23 prophetic, right? And I showed
01:21:26 scriptures on my second coming page that
01:21:29 goes along with that, right?
01:21:31 >> Yeah. Yeah.
01:21:31 >> And I’ll give the link so people can
01:21:33 look into them more. Right.
01:21:35 >> So now now the interesting thing about
01:21:36 these things that are prophetic,
01:21:39 most of them actually make sense. They
01:21:42 actually also make logical sense.
01:21:44 >> Yeah, they do.
01:21:46 >> If you’re if you’re actually looking at
01:21:48 Y as a logical thinking being instead of
01:21:52 uh
01:21:54 whatever it is that people seem to think
01:21:56 he is.
01:21:58 >> Yes. uh when you understand Yahweh’s
01:22:02 words and ways and the nature of man
01:22:05 including the pride cycle as brigamites
01:22:08 like to call it but you you can see the
01:22:12 pride cycle in the book of judges I
01:22:15 don’t know what Christians in general
01:22:17 call it because I grew up LDS which are
01:22:20 Christians okay
01:22:22 >> yeah they’re and they’re just and
01:22:24 they’re just as full of false doctrine
01:22:25 as the rest of Christianity is
01:22:27 >> yes they are I will completely agree
01:22:29 with that and I have a page on that on
01:22:31 some of them
01:22:32 >> I have
01:22:33 >> I’ll put a link to it
01:22:34 >> we have something on that
01:22:36 >> yes um
01:22:40 >> but they do get right that there is a
01:22:42 pride cycle as the brigamite LDS Mormon
01:22:45 church calls it uh I’m not sure what
01:22:49 Christians in general call it um because
01:22:53 I grew up in the LDS Brigamite Mormon
01:22:56 church but there ought to a name for it
01:22:59 because it’s in the book of Judges and
01:23:01 it’s all over else but judge book of
01:23:03 judges is a good example from just the
01:23:06 Bible right
01:23:07 >> um
01:23:09 >> um
01:23:09 >> oh yeah [laughter]
01:23:12 >> so to move on next is the fifth seal
01:23:15 right fifth comes under after fourth
01:23:17 right I mean
01:23:18 >> yeah
01:23:20 in most math yes [laughter]
01:23:22 >> most math okay we’ll leave that alone
01:23:28 But this uh going after the kayaism
01:23:32 about the temple and then sanctifying
01:23:35 the priests, right? That is then Exodus
01:23:40 32.
01:23:42 Okay, so let me get there. Exodus 32.
01:23:48 Guess what I mean? Probably the most
01:23:50 obvious thing is how there’s a golden
01:23:52 beast that they worshiped like Satan
01:23:57 which goes along with the fifth seal
01:24:01 and the half hour of silence because
01:24:05 uh I I do want to bring this out because
01:24:06 there’s a lot of confusion about the uh
01:24:09 half hour of silence. Let’s
01:24:14 I’m going to pause a minute. I got to
01:24:15 remember where it’s at. Oh, yeah.
01:24:19 >> Okay. I I I remember what I wanted to
01:24:21 get at now. Um, so we’re gonna go look.
01:24:30 Oh, where’ we go?
01:24:32 At prayer. Okay. Uh, I have some notes
01:24:35 on prayer that we’re going to look at.
01:24:38 Oops, I hit the wrong button. Sorry.
01:24:41 Um,
01:24:42 >> button button. Who mashed my button?
01:24:44 >> Yeah. So prayer.
01:24:48 So uh yeah, so we’ve looked at this
01:24:52 before, but there’s multiple verses
01:24:55 here. Uh first Nephi LDS 15:11.
01:25:00 Um and then also Mosiah LDS 11:24-2.
01:25:05 Yes. And then Mosiah LDS 21 through uh
01:25:08 21:15, Proverbs 28:9,
01:25:12 2 Chronicles 7:14,
01:25:14 John 9:31,
01:25:17 uh I already have those. Um so, uh that
01:25:21 brings out if you’re not seeking to
01:25:25 repent and keep Yahweh’s Torah, his law,
01:25:29 his statutes, commandments, and
01:25:31 judgments,
01:25:32 he won’t answer your prayer. And if he’s
01:25:35 not answering your prayer,
01:25:38 it’s like silence right
01:25:41 >> now. The It’s interesting the first
01:25:44 time. Yes, that is true. And I also just
01:25:49 another thing that triggered my mind on
01:25:51 something.
01:25:52 >> Sure. Go ahead, Ben.
01:25:54 >> Um the first time in one’s life that
01:25:58 they usually call upon the name of Yuk
01:26:01 is when they’re asking for forgiveness
01:26:03 of their sins.
01:26:06 Yeah. Yeah. Kind of like there’s no
01:26:09 I can’t remember the phrase, but there’s
01:26:12 always a fox in a foxhole, but it
01:26:15 basically going and I probably remember
01:26:17 the phrase right wrong that uh wicked
01:26:21 men at the end of their life just before
01:26:22 they’re dying, they’re going to they
01:26:24 realize something’s wrong. Right.
01:26:26 >> Right. And uh my well and I I’m just
01:26:30 going to stake this.
01:26:32 I prayed for most of my life
01:26:37 every day, but I never called upon the
01:26:41 name of Yo
01:26:43 until I sought forgiveness of my sins.
01:26:48 >> Okay.
01:26:50 Um that
01:26:52 >> which goes along with fearing Yahweh,
01:26:54 right?
01:26:55 >> Yep.
01:26:57 >> As we’re commanded to do, which is part
01:26:58 of the first division of Torah or first
01:27:00 command. But anyways,
01:27:06 >> and so I I that’s that’s just it just
01:27:10 kind of
01:27:12 when we’re talking about the prayer of
01:27:14 the unrepentant being an abomination
01:27:17 unto yo.
01:27:20 Um
01:27:23 that that tripped that off in my mind is
01:27:26 um
01:27:31 people pray all the time.
01:27:35 >> Yeah. They’re asking for they’re using
01:27:37 Yeshua’s name as a talisman for Jesus to
01:27:40 get what they want.
01:27:41 >> Right. People pray all the time and yet
01:27:45 they do not call upon the name of Y.
01:27:48 Well, and I’m going to be specific. I
01:27:50 know this is what Ben means.
01:27:53 >> Character. We are to believe in his
01:27:55 character. Okay. Um,
01:27:57 >> which is Torah or defined in Torah
01:28:00 anyway
01:28:02 >> revealed by defined in
01:28:05 >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]
01:28:09 And as Yeshua stated in the New
01:28:11 Testament, the law aka Torah, and I’m
01:28:15 going to add a little bit commentary of
01:28:17 the prophets.
01:28:18 >> Yep.
01:28:20 >> And I say it that way because the
01:28:22 prophets are always seeking to help us
01:28:24 understand Yeshua
01:28:27 by understanding his ways.
01:28:32 >> Yep.
01:28:34 Because uh first John something brings
01:28:36 out that um
01:28:41 if you think you know Yeshua
01:28:44 >> and you’re not keeping his ways, you’re
01:28:46 a liar. Right? 1 John 2 3-6. It it says
01:28:50 that if you say you know Yeshua, you’re
01:28:53 not keeping doing what he did, which is
01:28:57 before the death and resurrection, which
01:28:59 so there’s ought to be no question if
01:29:01 you should be keeping Torah, then you’re
01:29:03 a liar.
01:29:07 >> Unfortunately, there’s a lot of liars.
01:29:10 >> Yes, there are. Um and they’ll be thrust
01:29:12 down to hell. Um, and I do think uh not
01:29:17 everybody who is lying knows that
01:29:20 they’re a liar.
01:29:21 >> Well, I I think to be a liar, you have
01:29:24 to know you’re lying. But anyways,
01:29:25 that’s a whole another subject just from
01:29:27 the definition of the word. But anyways,
01:29:29 >> yeah. Um,
01:29:30 >> there’s a lot of deceived people.
01:29:33 >> Yeah. Yeah. So they can’t. So that I,
01:29:39 you know,
01:29:41 >> but even if you’re deceived and you’re
01:29:42 not seeking to repent and you’re
01:29:44 praying,
01:29:44 >> Yeah. you’re lying, you’re lying to
01:29:46 yourself. You’re lying to God when you
01:29:49 don’t uh when you don’t seek to repent.
01:29:52 >> You’re lying to God.
01:29:54 >> Yes. And you ultimately know that
01:29:56 because of the word and and Yahweh’s
01:29:58 given his ways to every man and woman.
01:30:02 Um, but
01:30:04 >> it’s it’s in your the rudimentaries are
01:30:06 in your heart and you know that you’re
01:30:08 lying.
01:30:09 >> Yeah. Hence, the kingdom of heaven is
01:30:11 inside of you.
01:30:13 >> Yep.
01:30:13 >> Because he’s given Torah to every man
01:30:17 and woman
01:30:20 >> now. And we will I’ve talked about one
01:30:23 uh how Torah brings out how you are an
01:30:27 adult man woman when you’re um 19 Greek
01:30:33 which we talk about in today’s world or
01:30:36 20 Hebrew
01:30:38 um and from
01:30:41 8 Hebrew or seven Greek to 20 Hebrew 19
01:30:47 Greek you’re learning the law. Okay.
01:30:50 Yep.
01:30:51 >> Um, and we’ll leave it at that because
01:30:53 that’s a whole another big can of worms.
01:30:56 So,
01:30:56 >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Leave leave the rest of
01:30:59 that alone.
01:31:00 >> Yeah. Yeah. Anyway,
01:31:01 >> we’ll be fine.
01:31:02 >> Yeah. Yeah. But back to the half hour of
01:31:05 silence. If this fifth seal, which deals
01:31:08 with worshiping Satan,
01:31:11 the beast, the golden calf,
01:31:15 [laughter]
01:31:17 and which means you’re not seeking to
01:31:20 repent, right?
01:31:23 >> Yeah.
01:31:25 You’re just kind of doing your own
01:31:26 thing.
01:31:27 >> Yeah. Like you’re doing what’s right in
01:31:29 your own eyes.
01:31:31 >> Oh, yeah. And but we’ll but we’ll slap
01:31:34 Y’s name on it and say that we’re good.
01:31:38 >> Yeah.
01:31:41 That’s like the fifth seal.
01:31:44 >> Yeah.
01:31:45 >> And what you and when you know what
01:31:49 you need to do to receive answers from
01:31:51 prayer, if you’re not doing that, it can
01:31:53 completely make sense why the fifth seal
01:31:55 is the half hour silence. Because the
01:31:59 fourth seal through the end of the
01:32:02 fifth, which is with the sixth seal,
01:32:04 we’ll get that in a minute, is an hour
01:32:07 or seven years. Okay.
01:32:09 >> Yeah.
01:32:10 >> So, and they’re both three and a half
01:32:13 years. So, half of an hour is half an
01:32:17 hour. Sorry, I don’t know how to I
01:32:20 >> Yeah, I I I Yeah, I think we’ve covered
01:32:23 that now. Um
01:32:24 >> Yeah. So that’s the half hour
01:32:26 significant
01:32:33 calf that they then called gods. Now
01:32:37 this gets to the translation issue
01:32:39 because if you go look at the Hebrew
01:32:41 that’s Elohim. It’s a majestic plural.
01:32:43 They only made one molten calf but
01:32:45 they’re calling it gods in the
01:32:47 translation. No,
01:32:49 >> no, no. This brings out when you know
01:32:52 enough and you go to Bible hub, you can
01:32:55 see there’s some problems in
01:32:56 translation. It’s right there,
01:32:59 >> right? They made one golden calf and
01:33:01 they said it was plural.
01:33:03 >> No, this is majestic plural that’s going
01:33:06 off the word Elohim. Okay, we’ll leave
01:33:08 it at that. I’ll I have a post on
01:33:10 majestic plural. I’ll put a link to
01:33:13 >> Yeah. And uh the facts of the matter are
01:33:16 in the Hebrew, the majestic plural is
01:33:19 actually used a lot.
01:33:21 >> Yes, it is. And it’s in Latin, too, and
01:33:24 Greek, which my post brings out, and
01:33:27 English. So, anyways, um
01:33:30 >> the only people who don’t use the
01:33:31 majestic plural anymore are stupid are
01:33:34 stupid people of modern day who think
01:33:36 that they’re so much more advanced than
01:33:38 everybody else. Yeah, that’s a good way
01:33:40 of putting it because modern people do
01:33:42 think they’re smarter than all the
01:33:43 ancients. Well, they’re forgetting all
01:33:46 what all the ancient knowledge
01:33:49 >> or Yeah. Well, yeah, they totally poo
01:33:52 poo the knowledge of the ancients that
01:33:54 they were able to by which they were
01:33:57 able to understand much of prophecy.
01:34:00 >> Yeah. And able to do things that they
01:34:02 can do today actually too. But that’s a
01:34:04 whole another subject. Okay.
01:34:06 >> Yeah. Yeah. So I I during the fifth seal
01:34:09 and during the golden calf event there
01:34:12 one thing I do find interesting how they
01:34:15 were doing a lot of sexual activity and
01:34:18 actual murder. when you look at Ezekiel
01:34:20 20 also
01:34:23 >> that um
01:34:30 >> that goes against some serious sins in
01:34:34 the actually first two and both in the
01:34:37 ceremonial
01:34:38 >> and the moral laws which everything’s
01:34:41 kind of based off of. Okay.
01:34:43 >> Yeah. Um, so those are some really
01:34:46 serious sins going on there
01:34:50 >> which is going to be happening during
01:34:53 the fifth seal.
01:34:56 >> Yeah.
01:34:56 >> Okay. Um, and then while that’s
01:35:00 happening,
01:35:02 uh, Moses and Yahweh have this
01:35:05 conversation, right? And saying how the
01:35:08 people are sinning.
01:35:10 >> Mhm.
01:35:10 >> Fifth seal. But then Moses comes down
01:35:13 out of Yahweh’s presence. Okay. And
01:35:16 that’s verse 15, which goes along with
01:35:21 how
01:35:22 um
01:35:24 the mighty strong one will be murdered
01:35:26 along with his uh primary religious
01:35:30 helper, which I like to call Aaron just
01:35:33 because of the the example of Moses,
01:35:35 right?
01:35:35 >> Mhm.
01:35:37 uh they will be um
01:35:42 brought back to life, not resurrected
01:35:45 but brought back to life. Hence leaving
01:35:48 the presence of Yahweh just as Moses
01:35:51 left the presence of Yahweh
01:35:54 in verse 15. Okay.
01:35:57 So, and Moses turned and went down from
01:36:00 the mount where Mo where Yahweh was,
01:36:03 right?
01:36:04 >> Mhm.
01:36:05 >> With the law here, which were both
01:36:07 written on both sides on one side and
01:36:12 then the other side were written. Okay.
01:36:13 So, anyways, so he came down with the
01:36:16 law and this law part actually kind of
01:36:19 gets into this seventh seal.
01:36:22 Now, uh, the seven seal
01:36:26 has seven trumpets with it. Okay? And
01:36:30 those seven trumpets actually is a
01:36:33 kayazm. I’m not going to get into it,
01:36:35 but the first goes with the seventh, the
01:36:38 se second goes with the sixth, the third
01:36:41 goes with the fifth, and then the fourth
01:36:43 is kind of a a percent. Okay.
01:36:46 >> All on its own.
01:36:48 >> Just like the seven seals follow the
01:36:50 same pattern. Okay. Yeah. which I have.
01:36:52 >> Can you pause for Can we pause for just
01:36:54 a second?
01:36:55 >> Yes, I will do that.
01:36:56 >> I have it. I’ve had it.
01:36:59 >> Okay. Uh so we just did the sixth seal,
01:37:02 how Moses just left the presence of
01:37:06 Yahweh, which is uh likened unto uh the
01:37:10 mighty strong one and Aaron being
01:37:13 brought back to life during the sixth
01:37:15 seal, which is part of the rapture
01:37:17 event. Okay? because the rapture is the
01:37:20 sixth seal, bringing people back from
01:37:23 the dead and then going up into heaven.
01:37:25 Okay.
01:37:27 >> All right. So, um
01:37:30 then we have the seventh seal. And the
01:37:31 seventh seal starts I say 19. It could
01:37:35 be some before. Anyways, there there’s
01:37:38 we need to I need to work on some of the
01:37:39 more specifics where right now I have
01:37:42 the general, right? And I’m sharing the
01:37:44 general. Okay.
01:37:45 But 19
01:37:48 has um the first trumpet of the seventh
01:37:52 seal. And it so and I I’m going to read
01:37:55 this real quick because I’m going to get
01:37:57 into some details here. And it came to
01:37:59 pass as soon as he Moses came nigh or
01:38:03 close unto the camp. He saw the calf
01:38:07 the beast being worshiped. Right.
01:38:10 >> Okay.
01:38:10 >> And dancing. Dancing is symbolic of
01:38:13 covenant. So they’re covenanting with
01:38:16 Satan.
01:38:17 >> They’re covenanting with death.
01:38:19 >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh Moses was angry, waxed,
01:38:23 and he cast the tablets out of his hand
01:38:26 and broke them beneath the mouth. I
01:38:28 mean, that sounds funny, but I think
01:38:30 broke sounds better in modern English.
01:38:32 But anyways, um this is King James. Now,
01:38:36 here here’s
01:38:38 uh this anger wax taught. Okay, this
01:38:41 goes along with the controversy with
01:38:44 cooking on the Sabbath.
01:38:46 >> Kindling fire
01:38:49 is actually a way of saying being angry.
01:38:53 And there are verses within the five
01:38:55 books of Moses that show that I have
01:38:57 some saved.
01:38:59 >> Um
01:39:02 uh I need to add more to this list, but
01:39:06 uh I’m having a hard time finding it,
01:39:08 but we can do Kindle. Okay, there you
01:39:10 go. So, here’s one, two, three, four
01:39:12 that I have saved. It brings out how
01:39:14 kindling fire deals with anger. Okay.
01:39:19 >> It uh it does absolutely not have to do
01:39:22 with you can’t cook a meal on the
01:39:25 Sabbath.
01:39:26 >> Well, it doesn’t have to do with
01:39:28 creating a physical fire which then you
01:39:31 then cook on. Okay.
01:39:32 >> Right. Um, so and the the way that Ben
01:39:37 bring out goes along with how Orthodox
01:39:39 Jews and others interpret it where DNC
01:39:42 59
01:39:44 actually says that you can cook on the
01:39:46 Sabbath. And there’s other verses that
01:39:48 does talk about how you can cook on
01:39:50 Sabbaths, but we’re not going to get
01:39:51 into that. I I do want to bring out
01:39:53 though that this anger and kindling fire
01:39:56 go together. Okay.
01:39:58 >> Yes.
01:39:58 >> And there’s a reason I want to do this.
01:40:02 So, I think it’s uh I’m going to pause a
01:40:05 minute because it’s one of the later
01:40:07 sections, DNC.
01:40:09 >> Give me one second.
01:40:13 >> Okay. So, in DNC
01:40:16 133, it does talk about and I I can’t
01:40:19 I’m having a hard time finding the
01:40:21 actual verse, but you can go through
01:40:22 read it. How the earth needs to be
01:40:24 sanctified. Okay.
01:40:26 >> Mhm. Um, and I’m pretty sure it’s CNC
01:40:29 133 because that one has to do with the
01:40:31 second coming stuff when just kind of
01:40:34 scanning through it and searching
01:40:35 keywords. I’m not finding the exact
01:40:38 first
01:40:39 and and I I don’t prepare for these
01:40:42 things. This is proof of that.
01:40:45 [laughter]
01:40:46 Um,
01:40:48 but um, so part of sanctification. Okay,
01:40:53 I’m going to just I’m going to stop
01:40:55 sharing for a minute.
01:40:57 So uh there are some scriptures and
01:41:00 maybe someone can remember what they
01:41:02 are. It talks about how um the flood
01:41:06 during Noah’s time, global flood was
01:41:09 baptism, right?
01:41:11 >> Um
01:41:13 I I know Joseph must have some quotes on
01:41:15 it and there’s some verses on it. I’m
01:41:17 sure in the JST if not in the Doctrine
01:41:19 Covenants.
01:41:20 >> Trying to remember
01:41:22 >> it talks about how that’s a water
01:41:23 baptism.
01:41:25 Now, um, Joseph Smith has a quote about
01:41:28 three baptisms, which we’ve done about
01:41:30 recently. I’ll put a quote or link to
01:41:33 that. Um, so the three baptism, water,
01:41:37 water, fire, and holy spirit right
01:41:43 now. So, let’s go back to this uh,
01:41:46 Exodus, what was it? 32:19.
01:41:50 Okay.
01:41:54 Click. Thank you. Sorry. Sometimes the
01:41:57 buttons are just fun to work with. So
01:42:01 now this brings out why I wanted to
01:42:03 bring out anger is fire.
01:42:06 Baptism of fire and Holy Spirit. Oh
01:42:11 wait. Okay. Wait a minute.
01:42:13 >> Oh.
01:42:14 >> Holy Spirit is what?
01:42:17 Torah.
01:42:18 >> Yes. And it was written on the tablets
01:42:21 of stone that Moses threw down. So I
01:42:26 want to bring out here this is the
01:42:28 baptism of fire
01:42:31 and holy I. Okay. I don’t know what just
01:42:34 happened to the app. I’ll bring it back
01:42:36 up in a minute.
01:42:38 Verse 19 is talking about how the earth
01:42:40 is going to be baptized by fire and Holy
01:42:44 Spirit. Anger. Moses was angry.
01:42:48 kindle of fire.
01:42:52 >> And he threw down the stones with the
01:42:54 law written on it. Holy Spirit.
01:42:58 Now, if you don’t accept it, you’re
01:43:00 still getting it. You’re just getting
01:43:01 the negative side of it instead of the
01:43:03 positive side.
01:43:05 You get fire and brimstone.
01:43:09 You get anger aka wrath
01:43:15 and the stone revelation of Yah’s will
01:43:18 and mind.
01:43:20 >> Yep.
01:43:21 >> You can pick the positive one and keep
01:43:24 it or the negative one and get it thrown
01:43:26 at you. Basically,
01:43:28 >> you decide.
01:43:30 >> You can have Yah’s law written upon your
01:43:33 heart or upon your skull. [laughter]
01:43:37 >> Yeah. Very good. Yeah.
01:43:41 >> On your forehead, right? [laughter]
01:43:43 >> Yeah.
01:43:44 >> Sorry. I I I’m I’m doing a little
01:43:47 twisting there, but I thought it was
01:43:49 funny. Um anyways, cuz um
01:43:53 >> cuz uh I’m sorry. Rocks falling from
01:43:56 heaven, that’s going to crush you.
01:44:00 >> Yes, it is. Um uh I want 32. Um, yes.
01:44:07 So, but hopefully with that connection,
01:44:09 you can see what’s going on cuz the
01:44:13 first trumpet
01:44:15 of the seventh seal has fire and
01:44:18 brimstone coming down, right?
01:44:21 >> Yep. A
01:44:22 >> and fire and brimstone goes with the
01:44:26 baptism of fire and the Holy Spirit.
01:44:30 >> Amen. You could get it either positively
01:44:33 or ne Oh, I want 32, not 23. Sorry, I’m
01:44:37 transposing numbers. My bad. It’s the
01:44:40 fault that the app crashed. I I don’t
01:44:42 know why it closed. But anyways,
01:44:44 >> yeah. So, the the thing that the thing
01:44:46 that I always say is you can choose your
01:44:48 fire.
01:44:50 >> Yeah. Purification or punishment, it’s
01:44:53 up to you.
01:44:55 >> Right. So now in verse uh Exodus 30 20
01:45:02 you can see the second and the third
01:45:04 trumpet. Okay. So one thing we need to
01:45:07 keep in mind is that fire and water
01:45:10 dealing with the flood of fire and flood
01:45:13 of water are interchangeably. And you
01:45:16 can see that uh my favorite example is
01:45:19 with um Samsung and the fox’s
01:45:25 uh tails on fire to burn the earth which
01:45:29 is symbolic
01:45:31 of the flood with Noah. Okay.
01:45:35 >> Yes.
01:45:36 >> It there there’s three divisions with
01:45:38 Samson. Well we we won’t get into that.
01:45:40 I’ll just leave it at there. Okay.
01:45:42 because these patterns in a lot of
01:45:45 places. Okay, but 20 and he took the
01:45:48 calf the the beast Satan that they made
01:45:52 or worshiped and burnt it with fire. Oh,
01:45:55 wait. That kind of could go with the
01:45:58 um this second trumpet which goes along
01:46:02 with the sea, right?
01:46:05 Water, fire going together and ground it
01:46:08 to powder powder just like what fire and
01:46:11 brimstone’s going to do. It’s going to
01:46:13 ground people, right? And straw it upon
01:46:16 the water or river
01:46:21 >> and may of is Israel drink it. So this
01:46:26 drinking of the golden calf is partaking
01:46:31 of the wrath of Yahw.
01:46:33 >> Mhm.
01:46:34 >> Uh Ben wanted to say something. Go
01:46:35 ahead.
01:46:35 >> Yeah. Uh uh I forgot what it was. So
01:46:38 let’s keep going.
01:46:40 >> Okay. All right. So anyways, we have the
01:46:42 first trumpet, second and third trumpet
01:46:44 there, right?
01:46:46 >> And that that’s not crazy to p what I’m
01:46:49 pulling out there, right?
01:46:50 >> No, it’s uh I don’t think it’s a
01:46:52 stretch.
01:46:54 >> Okay. Now, the fourth trumpet. Um, oh,
01:46:58 actually, we should go back to my second
01:46:59 coming page just to show that I’m I’m
01:47:01 not just making this up. Right.
01:47:03 >> Right.
01:47:04 >> It has the verses, and I forgot to do
01:47:05 that. So, sorry about that. There’s the
01:47:08 fifth seal. I also bring out the DNC
01:47:12 8895
01:47:13 LDS versification about the half hour
01:47:17 being the fifth seal. Okay, so it’s
01:47:19 there in the DNC. Hopefully the
01:47:22 explanation makes it connected better.
01:47:25 Um, but anyways, and even the Greek in
01:47:29 Revelation shows that when you get past
01:47:32 the bad translations in modern English.
01:47:36 Okay. Uh, we
01:47:41 the sixth seal has to do with the
01:47:42 rapture. Okay. Uh, there’s a couple
01:47:45 parts to the six seal. the rapture and
01:47:47 specifically
01:47:49 mighty strong one coming back to
01:47:51 mortality leaving Yahweh is there right
01:47:54 the blood moon there’s the resurrection
01:47:57 rapture or coming back from the dead
01:48:00 okay that’s the sixth seal seventh seal
01:48:03 has seven trumpets in it
01:48:07 I need that’s stuff I have to move and I
01:48:09 put that okay seventh seal the wrath
01:48:11 which is then divided into seven
01:48:14 trumpets
01:48:16 Um, I have the trumpets down in just a
01:48:19 minute. Oh, here’s the trumpet, fire,
01:48:21 and brimstone. Okay,
01:48:24 >> which that’s interesting because I’m
01:48:25 actually already getting to the point in
01:48:28 Revelation that talks about that stuff a
01:48:30 little.
01:48:31 >> Okay. Well, look at this because I also
01:48:32 have a quote from the hopes that goes
01:48:36 along with that um you might like.
01:48:38 Anyways, and then the
01:48:42 uh second trumpet, death to the sea, as
01:48:45 I remembered, right? The fire.
01:48:47 >> Yep. Yep.
01:48:48 >> And then the third trumpet is the
01:48:51 rivers, which goes along with what I
01:48:54 just wrote out in 20, right? With the
01:48:56 connections of the using fire and water
01:49:00 interchangeably with dealing with the
01:49:01 floods, a flood of water and flood of
01:49:04 fire and brimstone. Okay.
01:49:05 >> Baptism of fire. the baptism of fire and
01:49:10 Holy Spirit.
01:49:11 >> Yep. And I showed those connections. So
01:49:12 that’s important to bring out there.
01:49:14 Okay. And then the fourth seal has to do
01:49:17 with death of the sun, the leaders, the
01:49:22 moon, middle management, and the stars,
01:49:25 the followers. Okay. So these uh symbols
01:49:29 are being applied to Satan’s kingdom as
01:49:32 it’s applied to Yahweh’s kingdom with
01:49:34 the three degrees of glory, kingdom of
01:49:36 heaven. It’s also applied to Satan’s
01:49:38 kingdom here. Okay? And we can know that
01:49:41 because it talks about these three dying
01:49:44 here. Now, uh
01:49:48 I I just I know this. The thing that
01:49:51 happens next is in Exodus 27 or so and
01:49:54 28. And guess what? That is where the
01:49:58 sons of Levi, the ones that repent
01:50:01 first, go out and
01:50:05 kill or give the punishment for breaking
01:50:08 Yahweh’s Torah that they all said that
01:50:11 they would do earlier
01:50:14 um before Exodus 19. So I I’m I’m doing
01:50:18 a quick review here, right? I’m not
01:50:20 going into all the specifics.
01:50:22 And so in Exodus 18, I would I just
01:50:27 quick guess they said that they will
01:50:28 keep it, right? What they will hear and
01:50:31 then they didn’t. So there’s
01:50:33 >> uh
01:50:34 >> they said it in multiple places within
01:50:38 um
01:50:40 they said it in multiple places.
01:50:42 >> Yeah. So the wages of sin is death,
01:50:44 physical and spiritual. In this case
01:50:46 from 27 to 28, it talks about the
01:50:49 physical death and how the um the sons
01:50:52 of Levi went out and killed. And I’m
01:50:55 saying killed, not murdered, because
01:50:57 killed goes along with punishment. Okay.
01:51:01 >> Um 3,000 men.
01:51:04 >> If you want to speak, if you want to
01:51:05 look at it in strictly legal terms, they
01:51:08 executed.
01:51:09 >> Oh, that’s probably a better term,
01:51:10 executed because that does bring out how
01:51:12 it’s more of a punishment. So that Thank
01:51:14 you for that, Ben. Okay, which wait a
01:51:17 minute. So we just did first, second,
01:51:19 and third trumpets. The fourth trumpet
01:51:22 is death to wicked people. Oh, wait.
01:51:25 That’s what just happened right after
01:51:27 the part that paral um is a shadow of
01:51:31 those three other trumpets. Now, do not
01:51:34 suppose that just because wicked people
01:51:36 will die before the second coming means
01:51:42 that in the millennial reign there will
01:51:44 be no wicked people.
01:51:46 Do not presuppose that. Oh no, not
01:51:49 everybody dies. And in fact, Isaiah 52
01:51:52 brings out how the mighty strong one’s
01:51:55 going to go out and do missionary work
01:51:56 to them, showing I mean, why would he
01:52:00 have to do missionary work if they were
01:52:02 all believers?
01:52:04 And why would there be people who elect
01:52:06 not to come up to the uh come up to the
01:52:10 centers of worship for uh the feast of
01:52:14 tabernacles.
01:52:15 >> Yes. And that’s Zechariah 14 if I
01:52:18 remember correctly.
01:52:18 >> Yes. Zechariah 14.
01:52:20 >> And lots more along those same lines
01:52:23 that I have in the Torah and Millennium
01:52:25 page. But anyways, so we have the first
01:52:28 four trumpets, right? The fifth prophet
01:52:31 >> is a little trickier. Uh it’s Exodus
01:52:34 32:29 to the end of the chapter.
01:52:38 >> Okay.
01:52:38 >> Um go ahead. Did you want to say
01:52:40 something, Ben?
01:52:40 >> No, I was like, okay.
01:52:42 >> Okay. So, uh I do have the some of this
01:52:45 in a post I have. I’m going to pause
01:52:48 while I go find it real quick so we can
01:52:50 just reference it. So, one second.
01:52:52 >> Yep.
01:52:53 >> Okay. So, Revelations 11 uh also follows
01:52:57 the same pattern. And I kind of show
01:53:00 these things here. The fourth seal,
01:53:02 fifth seal, sixth seal,
01:53:05 and then I have uh first through the
01:53:08 third trumpet. Because those three kind
01:53:11 of go together because trumpets two and
01:53:14 three are caused by the first. Okay. The
01:53:17 fourth, the slaying of men. Okay. The
01:53:21 fifth. Now here in Revelations 11, it’s
01:53:24 it can get a little confusing, but it
01:53:26 goes along with which in in Exodus 30 29
01:53:30 to the end of the chapter, okay? And
01:53:32 we’ll get in that, but let’s look at it
01:53:34 here because it’s a little different
01:53:36 here than it is in other places. Okay?
01:53:39 And the remnant and so this is H I sorry
01:53:44 I did not mean to do that.
01:53:46 The remnant are who are still on earth
01:53:49 that are believing
01:53:51 in Yeshua,
01:53:53 but they’re still on earth because
01:53:55 they’re telestral glory in that they’re
01:53:58 still deceived by Satan where celestial
01:54:03 and turstral actually got raptured.
01:54:06 Okay. Mhm.
01:54:08 >> The tustrial people who are living stay
01:54:10 down on earth because they need to be
01:54:12 crushed like the grapes because although
01:54:16 they believe in Yeshua, they’ve rejected
01:54:19 the law. Okay?
01:54:22 Were frightened as in there’s a lot of
01:54:25 bad stuff happening during the fifth
01:54:27 seal. Okay? Um because it’s plagues.
01:54:31 Um and have and gave glory to Elohim of
01:54:35 heaven. So although they’re going
01:54:36 through and scared through these plagues
01:54:39 during the fifth seal, they’re still
01:54:41 giving glory to Elohim, Yahweh, Yeshua,
01:54:44 because they did convert to him and they
01:54:47 accept his atonement just but as in um
01:54:52 the parable of the sers and all the
01:54:54 additions of it bring out how they are
01:54:56 the ones that got deceived by Satan that
01:54:59 they don’t have to keep Torah. Okay.
01:55:03 >> Right. And the the the other thing to
01:55:05 note is that unlike the truly wicked,
01:55:09 they do give glory to Yo.
01:55:11 >> Correct? So although they’ve been
01:55:13 deceived, they still believe in Yeshua
01:55:16 and give glory to him. Now, let’s go and
01:55:19 see a couple highlights that Moses is
01:55:22 doing in this period that shadows the
01:55:26 fifth seal. Okay.
01:55:29 um he goes up to God and tries to do an
01:55:34 appeasement. Now, King James says
01:55:36 atonement, but there is only
01:55:41 now this is somewhat word games, okay?
01:55:45 Because appeasement and atonement
01:55:47 actually have the same Hebrew word
01:55:49 behind them. And that Hebrew word behind
01:55:52 it actually has both meanings here.
01:55:54 Okay? And I think this is partly why
01:55:58 Some of the Jews get confused about some
01:56:01 things that show up in scriptures in the
01:56:04 Book of Mormon and the Bible kinds of
01:56:06 bring this out that they think that
01:56:08 Moses can do an atonement or another man
01:56:11 can do an atonement. But through here it
01:56:14 shows that no, you can’t do an atonement
01:56:18 for them because you I I will forgive
01:56:21 who I will forgive. Right? In 32,
01:56:25 >> right? So, it’s an appeasement, not an
01:56:28 atonement. Okay.
01:56:29 >> Yeah.
01:56:30 >> Um, and that goes with the Hebrew word
01:56:32 behind it. I I’ve done a different
01:56:34 recording about that word. I’ll put a
01:56:37 link to it. Uh, and a post actually
01:56:40 dealing with the Yahweh’s calendar. I
01:56:43 deal with that also. But anyways, um,
01:56:46 it’s an appeasement for his sins, for
01:56:49 those people’s sins, as in like the
01:56:51 wicked, those who believe in Yeshua.
01:56:57 But they’re still going to go through
01:56:58 some bad things here. Um, right when you
01:57:02 talk about this because they were wicked
01:57:04 and they’re going to go through the
01:57:06 plagues. Oh, in fact, right there,
01:57:08 plague.
01:57:09 >> Oh, shoot. That just reminds me swore in
01:57:12 his wrath they would not enter into his
01:57:14 rest.
01:57:16 >> Yeah. Yeah. which goes along with how
01:57:18 those who got deceived by Satan to this
01:57:20 degree
01:57:22 won’t see Yeshua or his glory. Right
01:57:27 now, they can convert here during this
01:57:30 period because they haven’t died. Some
01:57:32 will, some won’t, as in or even more
01:57:35 fully convert could be a better way of
01:57:37 putting it, right?
01:57:38 >> Mhm.
01:57:40 >> But they’re going through they’re
01:57:41 plagued, which goes along with the
01:57:43 plague that happens during the fifth
01:57:45 seal. how they’re wicked because they’re
01:57:48 rejecting Torah and they have to have an
01:57:50 appeasement done for them. Right.
01:57:53 >> Right.
01:57:55 >> And I do believe it’s the mighty strong
01:57:57 one that’s the angel for the fifth seal,
01:57:59 but that’s a whole another subject.
01:58:01 We’re not going to get into that. Okay.
01:58:03 >> Um or was it Adam? I have to double
01:58:05 check. So I I’m really prepared as you
01:58:07 can tell. Um, in fact, just on that
01:58:10 point, I’m going to say I do believe the
01:58:13 man that has the keys to death and hell
01:58:15 in the book of Revelations is Adam, not
01:58:18 the mighty and strong one. In fact, just
01:58:20 look at the garden.
01:58:23 Adam is the one that made it happen that
01:58:26 death and hell could happen.
01:58:29 >> Yep.
01:58:31 Now, the mighty and strong one will help
01:58:33 people not have hell, but he’s not the
01:58:37 one that caused it. That was Adam, and
01:58:40 the one that caused it is the one that’s
01:58:42 going to have the key. But anyways,
01:58:44 that’s a whole another subject. It does
01:58:47 deal with the second coming stuff in the
01:58:48 book of Revelations, but that’s a whole
01:58:50 another thing. It’s not the mighty and
01:58:51 strong one. It’s Adam that has that key,
01:58:54 >> okay, of death and hell. He’s the one
01:58:56 that caused it. He’s got the key, okay?
01:59:00 Anyways, but you can see here the
01:59:02 connection with the fifth seal from
01:59:04 Revelations 11 and other passages that
01:59:07 deal with the um fifth uh trumpet. Sorry
01:59:13 if I said seal. I meant trumpet. Sorry.
01:59:15 Some
01:59:17 twist of the tongue. I’m tired.
01:59:21 Um but you can see here
01:59:28 uh it has to do with plagues right the
01:59:31 rotting of the flesh plague of animals
01:59:33 anyways and but during this time people
01:59:37 of
01:59:40 that would receive tstral glory at the
01:59:43 time that the wrath started are still
01:59:46 here on earth. They’re being crushed
01:59:48 like the grapes. That’s a whole another
01:59:51 um way of looking about the three
01:59:54 degrees of glory. Okay, but and I’ll put
01:59:57 a link to the kingdom of heaven that
01:59:58 gets into that.
02:00:00 But hopefully with that, you can see the
02:00:03 connection with the fifth seal with
02:00:07 what’s going on in that passage, right?
02:00:11 >> Yeah.
02:00:12 >> Okay. So going back
02:00:15 uh then here is the sixth seal. Okay. In
02:00:18 Exodus 33 uh give me that. So Exodus 33
02:00:24 has to do with
02:00:26 um war. Now uh Yahweh talks about
02:00:31 driving out the wicked from the land.
02:00:35 But when you look at history, how did
02:00:37 that happen?
02:00:40 War. war,
02:00:42 >> right? Israelites wared with the and
02:00:45 killed
02:00:47 because killed as in punishment for the
02:00:50 people, the Canaanites sins that they
02:00:53 had a long time to repent of, right?
02:00:57 Um, and how this also goes along with
02:01:01 how um the people heard these evil
02:01:04 tidings that they that Yahweh said about
02:01:06 them. Right? Now let’s go look at the
02:01:10 sixth trumpet of the seventh seal.
02:01:15 Um
02:01:17 which is a day of atonement. But anyways
02:01:20 that’s because it’s final judgment. It’s
02:01:23 war war
02:01:26 spoils of war.
02:01:29 And then here’s the timing of it which
02:01:31 brings out ultimately which goes along
02:01:33 with um Ezekiel 29 how there will be
02:01:39 seven inclusive
02:01:42 moons
02:01:44 of plagues before the war. Okay. Mhm.
02:01:49 >> As in as in there were seven moons that
02:01:52 the inclusive. So and I will bring out
02:01:55 how Hebrews count time different than
02:01:59 Greeks cuz a partial month is a full
02:02:02 month. Okay. Uh and I have that lot
02:02:07 talked about in inclusive time. It would
02:02:10 help if I remember my alphabet there.
02:02:13 Okay. And there’s scripture examples of
02:02:15 this. Okay. This also goes with the
02:02:17 three days and three nights that Yeshua
02:02:19 is in the heart of or belly or core of
02:02:22 the earth because he was dead. But
02:02:23 anyways, enough of that. Um, in fact,
02:02:26 the seven
02:02:29 moons
02:02:31 I have up here somewhere. There you go.
02:02:33 Ezekiel 39:11-16.
02:02:36 Because if you go look how many moons in
02:02:39 inclusively
02:02:40 from Passover to day of atonement,
02:02:45 it’s seven. Anyways, it all fits. Okay.
02:02:49 >> Yeah. Uh uh yes. And Ezekiel 30 Ezekiel
02:02:52 39 is um often it is often associated
02:02:58 with um
02:03:00 it I’ve heard it associated with um the
02:03:05 final battle at the end of the world,
02:03:07 but this is actually talking about the
02:03:09 wars that eliminate the wicked.
02:03:12 >> Correct. Uh, and Ezekiel 38 through39
02:03:15 has um a lot of these same patterns in
02:03:19 it that I’m bringing out with this
02:03:20 history with Moses as a shadow, right?
02:03:24 >> Uh, when you know what to look for, it’s
02:03:28 everywhere. In fact, I even just showed
02:03:29 here. It’s a lot of these things are in
02:03:32 um Revelations 11, right?
02:03:35 >> Yeah.
02:03:36 Um, so I do believe that this is a
02:03:39 confirmation that the pattern that I
02:03:42 teach, although I got the timing wrong,
02:03:45 um, is correct, right? Which I even talk
02:03:48 about how I got the timing wrong, that I
02:03:49 tied it to a solar and lunar eclipse
02:03:53 that’s calculated
02:03:55 >> a natural event.
02:03:57 >> Yeah, a natural event. I don’t believe
02:04:00 that’s the case anymore because
02:04:01 obviously it it passed where these
02:04:04 things would happen. So yeah, anyways, I
02:04:07 do think it’s tied to
02:04:09 >> an event that’s like happened during
02:04:11 Yeshua’s death where there was a a
02:04:15 comment that blocked the sun that gave
02:04:18 the darkness for three days, which
02:04:21 actually goes into original Luke and
02:04:23 gets into a post I need to finish. What
02:04:25 was it? That gets into history and
02:04:30 manuscripts that actually show that. But
02:04:32 that’s a whole So I do think it’s the
02:04:37 um solar and lunar eclipse are going to
02:04:39 happen because of
02:04:41 another
02:04:43 uh comet, not what’s happening in the
02:04:47 first trumpet of the seventh seal or the
02:04:52 seventh trumpet of the seventh seal.
02:04:55 Okay? probably
02:04:57 >> it’s just going to be another comment
02:04:58 that’s going to cause it like it did at
02:05:00 Yeshua’s death which goes along
02:05:04 with the death of his two servants the
02:05:06 mighty and strong one and Aaron okay but
02:05:08 that’s a whole another subject
02:05:10 um which deals with the sixth seal which
02:05:15 uh the sixth seal in this history with
02:05:17 Moses uh dealt with another aspect about
02:05:21 the coming back alive right um so
02:05:24 anyways
02:05:25 The sixth trumpet deals with war. Okay,
02:05:30 which I I can we looked at here. I
02:05:33 brought a couple verses that bring out
02:05:35 war during that period, right? In the
02:05:38 histories.
02:05:40 >> Um I are we looking at the website or
02:05:42 the gospel library?
02:05:45 >> In the website, we’re looking at the
02:05:47 website.
02:05:47 >> Okay. Uh going back to the gospel
02:05:49 library, you can see how he’s driving
02:05:51 people out, which historically was done
02:05:53 with war, and then how they did evil
02:05:54 tidings and all this, which goes along
02:05:58 with what’s going on in the sixth
02:06:00 trumpet of the seventh seal, right?
02:06:03 >> Yes.
02:06:04 >> Okay.
02:06:05 >> Yes.
02:06:06 >> The seventh seal deals with Exodus 34.
02:06:11 There is a JST there. actually multiple
02:06:13 JSTs, but the JSTs don’t matter too
02:06:17 much, so I’m just going to use the King
02:06:18 James. Okay. Now,
02:06:22 in both editions, the King James and the
02:06:26 JST, Moses goes back to be with heaven
02:06:30 or Yeshua, sorry, to get the second set
02:06:34 of tablets that was put in the ark.
02:06:36 Right.
02:06:38 >> Yes. Now, if the first one had to do
02:06:40 with fire and brimstone,
02:06:44 the second does too.
02:06:46 And when you go look at the seventh
02:06:49 trumpet and bull, there’s two big things
02:06:51 that goes along there, right? Fire and
02:06:55 brimstone.
02:07:00 And
02:07:02 this is it’s finished. It’s final. It’s
02:07:04 done. the the uh the work of wrath is
02:07:08 complete.
02:07:09 >> Correct. A and look and after the law
02:07:13 came down the second time, people
02:07:15 started keeping it.
02:07:18 Although it wasn’t written on their
02:07:20 heart, which deals with Jeremiah
02:07:22 um and all and some other verses, but
02:07:24 they did start keeping it for a certain
02:07:28 degree, right? it was final
02:07:30 >> because uh yeah, probably out of a sense
02:07:35 of self-preservation. But
02:07:36 >> uh yeah, anyways, we’re not going to
02:07:38 deal with that. But
02:07:39 >> yeah, [laughter]
02:07:41 >> if the first one dealt with uh fire and
02:07:43 brimstone coming down and how it was um
02:07:46 actually pointing to the anger and
02:07:50 Torah, right
02:07:52 here it is again in the seventh trumpet
02:07:56 because it it does talk about how
02:07:59 there’s fire and brimstone in the
02:08:01 seventh trumpet and that deals the
02:08:05 second time has to do with Saturn. I
02:08:07 know that sounds crazy. go study the
02:08:09 polar configuration. It also goes with
02:08:11 the sign of man in heaven
02:08:14 um which also goes with a quote with
02:08:16 Joseph Smith and this one from the hopes
02:08:18 because it talks about um Mars and Venus
02:08:20 and another one in here that I have is
02:08:22 Saturn
02:08:24 somewhere. Anyways, I’m real prepared
02:08:26 but it’s in there and a quote from
02:08:28 Joseph Smith. I do believe that they
02:08:29 will say Saturn a comet that’s Saturn
02:08:32 because it won’t appear the grand sign
02:08:34 or grand final sign of the son of man in
02:08:37 heaven.
02:08:39 I think it’s Saturn. But anyways,
02:08:41 >> that that is actually
02:08:44 [clears throat] the um
02:08:47 and if I understand correctly, the um
02:08:51 the sign of the coming of the son of man
02:08:54 is actually the alignment
02:08:56 um
02:08:57 >> of the polar configuration. Yes.
02:08:59 >> The alignment of the configuration that
02:09:01 creates the heaven man.
02:09:02 >> Yes. With the plasma coming down from
02:09:04 Mars. And I I I’ll put a link to the
02:09:08 polar configuration that has a little
02:09:10 video of that. It’s just we’re getting
02:09:12 sidetracked a lot. But also there’s this
02:09:14 thing about judgment. Okay.
02:09:16 >> Yes.
02:09:17 >> With the seven seal and day of atonement
02:09:20 is the final judgment which is the day
02:09:23 of the high holidays is going to happen
02:09:25 on is day of atonement. Final judgment.
02:09:29 Okay? because this is where you’ll find
02:09:31 out uh which of the three degrees of
02:09:36 glory you’ll receive if you’re a
02:09:38 believer or that you’re actually going
02:09:41 to hell if you’re a non-believer. Right.
02:09:44 So,
02:09:44 >> right. So, anyways,
02:09:47 >> or or in other words, another way to say
02:09:49 that you find out how covered you are.
02:09:53 >> Yeah. Or how as in with what or how
02:09:57 much. Right.
02:09:58 >> Right. [laughter]
02:10:00 So, um, anyways, so hopefully you can
02:10:04 see the connection there with the, um,
02:10:06 seventh trumpet of the seventh seal.
02:10:09 Okay.
02:10:10 >> Yep.
02:10:11 >> Now, next is Exodus 35. Oh, wait a
02:10:15 minute. Imagine that. Okay. Exodus 35
02:10:19 focuses on the tabernacle. Now when
02:10:22 Yeshua comes down at the actual second
02:10:24 coming, it’s during tabernacles
02:10:27 and he will live within the third temple
02:10:32 aka tabernacle aka second coming.
02:10:38 Okay. Now after in part of the
02:10:40 tabernacle talking about it
02:10:44 um
02:10:46 they talk about um seven days that they
02:10:52 do to build it and sanctify the priests.
02:10:54 So seven has to do with perfection or
02:10:57 the seven millenniums. We have seven
02:11:00 millenniums
02:11:01 where Yeshua comes down and lives during
02:11:04 the last one to become sanctified
02:11:09 just as what the uh in Leviticus 8 goes
02:11:13 up to that Moses is supposed to do
02:11:16 sanctify. They have seven days to
02:11:19 sanctify themselves, right? because all
02:11:23 through Exodus 35 through Leviticus 8
02:11:26 talks about things that are going on the
02:11:28 temple and the temple sacrifices. So I’m
02:11:31 going to interject one other point here
02:11:32 that I don’t have in the in my notes but
02:11:36 during mortality and the millennium
02:11:38 including the millennium we are to
02:11:42 repent to become more like Yeshua. In
02:11:45 Leviticus 1 through8 and some beyond,
02:11:49 there’s a focus of the animal
02:11:52 sacrifices. The animal sacrifices are
02:11:54 symbolic of Yeshua’s atonement that
02:11:56 makes it so we can repent to become like
02:11:59 him. Okay? And we’re not going to get
02:12:02 into the details of that because we’re
02:12:03 already already later than I want to be.
02:12:06 Um because I need to go to bed. But I
02:12:08 want to continue this. Leviticus 8.
02:12:12 Um,
02:12:15 I need to go up. I do know where
02:12:17 Leviticus is. [laughter]
02:12:21 >> Somewhere at the end. I’m going to
02:12:23 search for seven.
02:12:27 Uh, altar seven. Uh, no, that’s not it.
02:12:31 Okay. The congregation. So, thou shalt
02:12:33 not go to the door of the tabernacle of
02:12:35 the congregation in seven days until the
02:12:38 seven days of consecration,
02:12:40 sanctification, becoming like Yesua.
02:12:43 Because consecration is that you’re
02:12:45 dedicating yourself to Yahweh, right?
02:12:49 >> To be an end seven days shall he
02:12:52 consecrate unto you. So the priests or
02:12:56 those who are supposed to represent
02:12:58 Yeshua are to consecrate sanctify
02:13:00 themselves within those seven days,
02:13:02 right? Uh yeah. Yeah, there’s the seven
02:13:06 days again. Okay. Anyways, okay. So that
02:13:10 goes along with mortality aka the last
02:13:13 millennium of um the seven millenniums,
02:13:17 right? Okay. In Exodus or Leviticus 10,
02:13:21 there brings out how two sons of Aaron
02:13:27 uh brought a strange fire into the
02:13:30 tabernacle, right?
02:13:33 >> Uh specifically 1 through three or
02:13:36 seven. Okay.
02:13:38 Um
02:13:40 uh they died
02:13:42 because they did something that Yahweh
02:13:47 did not command them to do and they knew
02:13:49 better. This goes along with the final
02:13:52 battle. Gog and Magog,
02:13:55 how there will be the religious and the
02:13:58 civil
02:14:00 um parts of Babylon that will come back
02:14:02 up again to revolt against Yahweh. Okay.
02:14:07 >> Yeah.
02:14:07 >> And then after that
02:14:10 um
02:14:11 Leviticus 10
02:14:14 8 through whatever but specifically in
02:14:16 10
02:14:18 uh that the priests are to teach the
02:14:21 difference between holy and unholy.
02:14:24 And that deals with eternity which
02:14:26 actually deals with DNC 76
02:14:30 dealing uh and I can find it real quick.
02:14:34 uh how people in this who receive
02:14:37 celestial and tles glory are to teach
02:14:42 those who receive
02:14:44 tstral glory to keep the law or the holy
02:14:47 spirit. Right.
02:14:49 >> Right. Because that you’re in the
02:14:51 kingdom. The law is the rule of the
02:14:53 kingdom. They should know it.
02:14:56 >> Yes. Um so I think that’s around 86 if I
02:15:00 remember correctly. So let me pause real
02:15:03 quick while I find it. I’m sorry.
02:15:07 So I remember right it’s CNC 86 and 87.
02:15:10 that these are they and this is talking
02:15:13 about the tstral people here the the
02:15:15 least glory who receive not of his
02:15:18 fullness which is uh sanctification in
02:15:22 the eternal world but of the holy spirit
02:15:25 behavior Torah through
02:15:27 the ministration or teaching of those
02:15:30 who receive tustrial glory. Oh, wait a
02:15:33 minute. So they’re teaching the Holy
02:15:35 Spirit. They’re not teaching about the
02:15:38 Holy Spirit. They’re teaching Torah.
02:15:42 >> Yeah.
02:15:42 >> You don’t receive You don’t learn about
02:15:45 the Holy Spirit
02:15:47 by teachings of others. You You would if
02:15:50 it was a person, you would
02:15:52 >> go see and meet him.
02:15:55 >> I do think that the wording here
02:15:57 actually indicates that it can’t be a
02:16:00 person as well.
02:16:02 >> Oh, I agree. And I’m just trying to make
02:16:04 that more clear. And then verse 87
02:16:06 brings out and the terrestrial through
02:16:08 the ministration teachings of those who
02:16:11 receive celestial. So there are people
02:16:14 in the tree who receive tstral glory are
02:16:18 being taught the holy spirit by those
02:16:21 who receive the celestial glory and also
02:16:24 the tstral receive it by those members
02:16:27 of the t see who receive the tstral
02:16:30 glory that are designated for that.
02:16:33 Okay. So some of who receive celestial
02:16:37 glory will go to and teach the turstral
02:16:42 I mean tstral sorry cuz the tstral there
02:16:45 I my these are tongue twisters here
02:16:49 uh and then tester teach tester and sea
02:16:53 lest teach turstral and some of sea
02:16:56 luster teach tester. I think that came
02:16:58 out right. Blah.
02:17:00 >> Yes, actually. Surprising.
02:17:02 >> Okay. Very good. Which goes along with
02:17:05 the priest
02:17:07 teaching
02:17:09 um to be holy because the Holy Spirit is
02:17:13 the holy behavior teaching us how to be
02:17:15 holy as Yahweh is holy.
02:17:17 >> There’s the eternity.
02:17:20 >> So hopefully um that was rough draft,
02:17:24 but that still took a while even just
02:17:25 through the rough draft. Yeah, but
02:17:28 that’s I think a large part of I think a
02:17:31 large part some of the things that made
02:17:33 it take a little longer is my side
02:17:35 tracks. So my
02:17:36 >> well and I sidet track too, but also
02:17:38 some of those side tracks are giving a
02:17:39 base there, right? that from the song
02:17:45 after crossing the Red Sea to the
02:17:49 teachings of the priest goes through the
02:17:51 second coming events, the final
02:17:54 millennium, final battle in eternity.
02:17:58 >> They are
02:18:00 prophetic revelations
02:18:03 in ceremony.
02:18:06 >> Yeah. in history as Paul brings out
02:18:08 which I forget where that the histories
02:18:12 are
02:18:13 >> to point us to what will happen in the
02:18:15 future. And here it is about the second
02:18:17 coming events.
02:18:19 >> Yep.
02:18:20 >> Which um I do believe and people take it
02:18:24 with a grain of salt. It shows the
02:18:26 pattern that Yahweh’s revealed to me at
02:18:28 other times that I’ve wrote written
02:18:29 about
02:18:31 is true because there it is in that
02:18:33 history.
02:18:36 And it’s not just in movies as if I
02:18:38 brought out in other times which I have
02:18:40 I actually enjoy doing. Right. It’s
02:18:42 right there in the scriptures.
02:18:44 >> It it’s fun to it’s fun to watch the
02:18:46 movies and to pull the story out that’s
02:18:48 behind the story um for the simple
02:18:51 reason that uh
02:18:54 well most people can’t see that. They’re
02:18:56 not trained to. And um
02:19:00 they’re trained to uh watch whatever is
02:19:04 put in front of them and to clap like
02:19:06 seals.
02:19:10 >> But
02:19:10 >> well, they are entertaining, but there
02:19:12 is more purpose behind them than most
02:19:14 people think there is.
02:19:15 >> Yes. But it’s it’s fun to actually bring
02:19:20 that out.
02:19:21 >> Yeah. Well, and I I do think doing it in
02:19:24 the movies has helped prepare me to see
02:19:25 it here because the pattern’s been
02:19:28 cemented in my mind more such that when
02:19:32 Yahweh gave me inspiration on a part of
02:19:34 it, I could then figure out the rest.
02:19:37 >> Yeah. I think and and that and I think
02:19:41 that that’s um
02:19:45 what we receive experiences in life
02:19:50 and we get the opportunity to learn how
02:19:52 to do certain things
02:19:56 so that it will so that we can live up
02:20:00 to the callings
02:20:02 that we receive.
02:20:04 >> Yes. From Yahweh, which goes along with
02:20:06 Elma 13, but that’s a whole other
02:20:07 subject. we won’t get into because I’m
02:20:09 getting tired. But anyways,
02:20:10 >> yeah, but that’s but that’s all I was
02:20:13 and I didn’t really want to go into
02:20:15 anything in depth. I was just saying
02:20:17 >> Yeah. And I was confirming
02:20:18 >> I’m making a general state.
02:20:20 >> Yeah. Yeah. And I’m confirming it and
02:20:22 want to get in the details.
02:20:24 >> Yeah. [laughter]
02:20:25 >> Yeah. Let’s not get into the weeds.
02:20:27 >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyways, I I do hope
02:20:31 that bringing out the pattern in the
02:20:34 history will help cement in people’s
02:20:36 mind what the second coming events, the
02:20:39 seals and the trumpets actually are and
02:20:42 not what a lot of people claim they are.
02:20:47 >> Yeah. Okay.
02:20:48 Um,
02:20:51 and with the statement from Paul that
02:20:53 the history is giving us given to us.
02:20:55 So, we know what will happen in the
02:20:56 future. Right.
02:20:58 >> It’s right there in the history.
02:21:02 Believe or disbelieve,
02:21:04 it’s up to you.
02:21:05 >> It’s up to you. It’s going to happen if
02:21:07 you believe it or not. Um,
02:21:10 whether if you believe it now or not. I
02:21:12 do hope when it starts happening
02:21:15 that when he the mighty strong one comes
02:21:17 out during the third slashforce seal
02:21:23 that you will decide to follow him
02:21:26 because he will be Yahweh’s mouthpiece
02:21:30 at that point. He’s not he doesn’t have
02:21:33 the calling. Now the as the history
02:21:36 shows is during the third seal which I
02:21:38 also see in Isaiah
02:21:40 49 and Revelations 12.
02:21:44 He’s called on the he is called on the
02:21:48 eve of uh
02:21:51 he’s called on the eve of slaughter.
02:21:54 >> Yeah. So anyways, uh hopefully people
02:21:57 find this helpful and to then go study
02:22:00 this pattern even more. Say this name
02:22:03 Jesus Christ. Amen. Or Yeshua the
02:22:04 Messiah. Amen.
02:22:06 >> Amen.
02:22:08 >> Yeah. Oh,
02:22:09 >> I got to find the button.

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3 Nephi (LDS 23:14) (RLDS 11:1) And now it came to pass that when Jesus had expounded all the scriptures in one, which they had written, he commanded them that they should teach the things which he had expounded unto them.

Scripture Study 2026-10-09 A Shadow of the Second Coming Events

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