Summary
Explaining how the furnishing in the Tabernacle teach the 3 degrees of glory. The structure of the Tabernacle teaches we need Yeshua & Torah. The fullness of the gospel is sanctification & the preparatory is justification. To be sanctified is to receive celestial glory. Matt 5 brings out those who don’t keep the law will be the least. Yeshua taught Torah. Statutes, commandments and judgements are 3 key words for Torah. If you reject Torah you will not see Yeshua. People complain about the party commandments. We need Yeshua to get into the Kingdom. Those who receive Telestial Glory will know Yeshua’s atonement & have their works cleansed. Yeshua satisfied the demands of justice. Yeshua will take care of those who come under His covering. The Menorah represents Yeshua not the High Holidays. Flowers are symbolic of Torah, which is the source of light. Glory is given when we keep Torah. The High Holidays teach the gospel. The 2 trees in Zechariah are 2 of the coming servants. The Mark version of the parable of the Sower brings out how if you don’t understand the 4 groups, you don’t understand any parables. Those who receive Terrestrial Glory get to see Yeshua, know that Torah is to govern and have their prayers answered. Alma 38 talks about how we are to bridle our passions, which is an illusion to Tzitzits. Alma 37 has a prophecy that the Brass Plates will translated & bring people to repentance, the Brass plates teaches Torah. The 10 virgins is about the Celestial & Terrestrial glories. Saints are those who will become sanctified. Personal commandments will never have you sin. Praying in the name of Yeshua is praying while you are acting as He would & asking for the promises in the word. D&C 76 brings out how those who received Celestial & Terrestrial glories will teach the Holy Spirit to those who received the Telestial glory, they are not teaching a person they are teaching Torah. The 7 day cycle of showbread is prophetic of going from Adam to the Mighty and Strong One during Millennium. Joseph Smith restored much not all. The coming servant is going to restore all things, which is a Torah. If you try to understand Hebrew scriptures with a Greek mindset, you will miss a lot. The Might and Strong One will come out during the 1st 3 seals. When you keep YHWH’s Torah, He will give you more, and when you don’t you will lose what you had. Mysteries teach about Yeshua, Torah & His plan. You can repent till you die. Those who are Yeshua’s friends are the ones who know all the mysteries of Elohim & will know where the wind came from & where it’s going. The chains of hell is the opposite of Tzitzit. Symbols have a positive & a negative to them. Those who had the Melchizedek Priesthood, which goes along with being sanctified, can go into the Holy of Holies. The reason David was a man after YHWH’s heart is because he repented. Those who receive the Celestial glory know Torah in full, have authority & get to see Yeshua’s glory and are sent out. Explaining why I believe in the 5 & 5 split of Torah. The translation of Elohim to God brings in false ideas. Elohim means judge. Torah is about how to love Yeshua along with our neighbors & ourselves. There is a place for taxes, the Israelites complained that Solomon charged too much tax not that he was charging a tax. Part of honoring your parents is taking care of them when they are old. Keep the written Torah not the false traditions of men. Old refers to Torah plus the Law of Moses. Circumcision has been done away. Restorations go back to how things were before. Yeshua wrote the 10 commandments with His finger. Nuts are inside the fruit, blessings are inside the works. For everything to work we need Torah, authority & Yeshua, which goes with what is in the ark of the covenant. Moses took authority over the rebellious people to redeem them, which is a shadow of Yeshua’s atonement. What the ark of the covenant is made of is teaching sanctified mankind. Giants are people trying to tear people down. I believe one seraphim is Adam & the other is the Mighty and Strong One, having all the best of the prophet triad. Sprinkling is symbolic of missionary work. Jacob’s ladder is becoming like Yeshua and then helping others do the same. The sanctified ones are the judges, aka gods, from Psalms and the NT. Keeping Torah fully is the second comforter. Knowing you are doing what Yeshua wants you to do & He has your back is very comforting. YHWH gave Torah to all. When we are baptized we can have the spirit more abundantly, showing we can have the spirit abundantly before we are baptized. It is the leaders job to figure out the mysteries. I believe the leaders were to write the same words that YHWH wrote with His own finger. YHWH’s word supports itself not contradicts itself.
Links
- Bible Bricks – Wilderness Tabernacle Set
- Kingdom of Heaven
- Three Degrees of Glories Chiasmus
- Scripture Study 2023-05-04 Kingdom of Heaven
- Torah
- Symbolism
- The Fullness of the Gospel & the preparatory Gospel
SJR Ezekiel 37 Chiasmus - Lego Wild Ox mascot of Ephraim
Scripture Study 2023-08-30 - Majestic Plural is Singular
- Party Commandments
High Holidays - Torah is Light
- The High Holidays teach the gospel
Prophet Triad and YHWH’s Feasts - Tzitzit
- Torah in the Millennium
- Joseph Smith restored much not all
MUCH vs ALL in LDS D&C 132:40 - Torah is All Things
- Seals
Second Coming - Baptism for the Dead
- Marriage
- False Traditions of Men
Oral Law - Scripture Study 2025-12-27 Women Caught in Adultery
- Law of Moses
- Torah in the Doctrine and Covenants
- Torah in the Book of Mormon After Yeshua’s Death
- SJR Translations
- Giants
Book of Enoch - Prophet Triad and YHWH’s Feasts
- The Gospels, the JST and Torah on the Resurrection
- Baptism
- Chiasmus
Transcript
00:00:00 verdict.
00:00:02 >> So, um today
00:00:06 we’re uh everybody’s humoring me in
00:00:10 explaining um the
00:00:14 furnishings in the tabernacle.
00:00:17 Uh how and how they deal with the
00:00:20 kingdom of heaven
00:00:22 and the three degrees of glory. Okay.
00:00:26 Um, which for those who are LDS, that’s
00:00:29 DNC76.
00:00:32 Oh, I should have looked up the RLDS
00:00:35 number, but I can do that real quick. I
00:00:38 have it in this. I wrote it in my notes
00:00:40 in the book or so my journal DNC. I have
00:00:45 it written down the
00:00:49 Oh, it’s RLDS762.
00:00:51 Okay. So, that made that easy.
00:00:55 Keeps it keeps it simple,
00:00:57 >> huh?
00:00:58 >> Keeps it simple.
00:00:59 >> Yeah. Yeah, it does. Well, they’re not
00:01:01 all the same. So,
00:01:03 >> um
00:01:04 >> but but when it does happen, we can be
00:01:06 grateful.
00:01:07 >> Yeah. So, I might actually remember that
00:01:09 one’s the same after this. But anyways,
00:01:12 um
00:01:13 and um
00:01:16 so there’s not the outer darkness part
00:01:18 in this recording, but I do have a
00:01:20 recording.
00:01:22 Oh, let me
00:01:26 bring up a browser and I’ll show you
00:01:28 which recording has
00:01:32 uh because if you go um and
00:01:38 hold on
00:01:40 I did an initial recording at the
00:01:42 request of someone else about the three
00:01:44 degrees that uh Ben probably remembers
00:01:48 this, right?
00:01:49 >> Yes.
00:01:50 >> With Bob. Bob asked for it.
00:01:53 >> Yes. Uh
00:01:56 yeah. So anyway, he received and so he
00:01:59 got it.
00:02:00 >> Yeah. Yeah. And I got he I did it for
00:02:02 him. It’s about three hours. This one
00:02:04 right here. Um it’s all over the Bible.
00:02:09 Even without the JST. Oh, no. It’s this
00:02:11 one. It’s all over the Bible with even
00:02:13 without the JST. I did three hours of
00:02:16 what I knew then. I know more now. Like
00:02:18 here’s one. I’m doing another one.
00:02:20 Right.
00:02:21 >> Mhm.
00:02:21 >> Um,
00:02:24 and I’m not going to do the stuff about
00:02:26 the structure of the tabernacle, but
00:02:28 throughout the structure, if you
00:02:31 understand the symbolism,
00:02:34 um,
00:02:36 just here’s the page for that. Oh,
00:02:39 actually, I should probably make that
00:02:40 bigger, huh? Sorry. Anyways, um, it
00:02:43 looks big to me.
00:02:46 Um
00:02:48 it Torah and
00:02:51 uh Yeshua is all throughout the
00:02:53 structure of the tabernacle, even in the
00:02:57 dimensions
00:02:59 of every part of it and
00:03:03 the
00:03:06 coverings of the Holy and Holy of
00:03:10 Holies. Okay. It it it’s just
00:03:13 everywhere. Which goes along with uh
00:03:16 Mosiah 13, how the law is part of having
00:03:21 us be
00:03:23 fully saved, as in to somewhat go along
00:03:27 with the fullness of the gospel, which
00:03:29 is sanctification, and the preparatory
00:03:33 gospel is justification. Um anyways,
00:03:37 um I have a post on that. I’ll
00:03:40 uh I forget which one it is. Hold on.
00:03:52 I’ll put in the notes. I I don’t want to
00:03:54 spend time looking. Um so
00:03:56 >> fine.
00:03:57 >> Yeah. I mean that’s not an important
00:03:59 point. Um, but the fullness of the
00:04:02 gospel is the celestial kingdom, aka
00:04:06 sanctification, aka
00:04:08 grace versus mercy, which is
00:04:11 justification.
00:04:13 >> Eternal life. There’s lots of names for
00:04:15 it. I probably can’t list them all off
00:04:17 right now. Okay.
00:04:18 >> Yeah. I mean, when you realize that so
00:04:21 many of the words in relation to the
00:04:25 gospel are actually synonymous with each
00:04:27 other, it really demystifies a lot of
00:04:30 it. Yes, it does. Um,
00:04:36 for whatever reason, Yahweh’s helped him
00:04:39 with some various things and that is one
00:04:41 of them as Ben brings out is that
00:04:44 there’s different names for the same
00:04:47 thing. Okay.
00:04:49 >> And the names focus focuses on different
00:04:53 points. Okay. Just on sanctification as
00:04:56 it’s internal life. Okay. Um
00:05:00 versus death. There there’s two types of
00:05:03 deaths. Okay. Spiritual death
00:05:07 and physical death. Physical death is
00:05:09 completely simple. Our soul and I I
00:05:12 prefer to use the word soul and I’ll
00:05:14 just leave it at that. Leaves our
00:05:16 physical body. Right? And the
00:05:19 resurrection it comes back.
00:05:21 Now um
00:05:26 spiritual death is being separated from
00:05:29 Yeshua who is Yahweh. Okay.
00:05:33 Um
00:05:35 but the eternal life even focuses on the
00:05:37 part of his glory which is the celestial
00:05:40 kingdom where you
00:05:45 are a complete follower of Yeshua. Okay?
00:05:49 Not just a partial
00:05:52 which would be the turststral or believe
00:05:55 in his him and the atonement which is
00:05:59 testral
00:06:01 right
00:06:02 sanctification eternal life is seeing
00:06:05 him in his glory and thus
00:06:09 overcome both
00:06:12 physical I sorry have overcome spiritual
00:06:15 death because you are now with the
00:06:19 father
00:06:20 >> and seeing Yeshua in his glory.
00:06:23 >> Okay,
00:06:25 you get to see him completely,
00:06:29 not partially. Okay, and we’ll even see
00:06:33 that somewhat as we talk about through
00:06:36 um the furnishings of the tabernacle.
00:06:40 Okay. Um,
00:06:44 and so when Moses said the tabernacle is
00:06:47 the pattern of heaven,
00:06:50 I agree
00:06:52 >> wholeheartedly.
00:06:56 There’s probably more depth than I’ve
00:06:58 seen,
00:07:00 but I will try to share some right now.
00:07:03 Okay.
00:07:05 Um,
00:07:06 now, uh, I have a when I was a kid, I
00:07:11 had a little Lego obsession. [laughter]
00:07:15 Um,
00:07:16 >> that’s changed.
00:07:18 >> Huh?
00:07:19 >> That’s changed.
00:07:21 >> I
00:07:23 Yes and no. So, [laughter]
00:07:27 um, and I’ll explain that real quick. I
00:07:29 I gave all my childhood Legos to my boys
00:07:33 who live in Argentina. Um, sadly, but
00:07:36 anyways, that’s another subject. Um,
00:07:40 but I have bought a few sets, very few.
00:07:44 Like, uh, this one I actually did a
00:07:47 teaching with. I’ll try to find it and
00:07:49 put it in the links. It’s a wild ox.
00:07:53 I I think it actually originally goes
00:07:56 with the um China
00:08:01 they have the 12
00:08:04 birth signs. All right.
00:08:06 >> Yeah, 12 Chinese zodiac signs.
00:08:08 >> Yeah, the zodiac signs. Thank you, Ben.
00:08:10 Sometimes I have the general idea, but
00:08:12 sometimes I don’t always remember the
00:08:13 word, especially when I’m buzzed.
00:08:17 Anyways, I did a teaching on this guy
00:08:19 because he is um this is a wild ox. the
00:08:25 uh mascot of Ephraim, which is my tribe.
00:08:27 So, I it it kind of means a little bit
00:08:30 of me or for me, sorry.
00:08:33 Uh I have a little Moses set. Okay.
00:08:36 Oops.
00:08:38 >> Him and the uh his staff, which has
00:08:42 multiple symbolisms to it, and the Ten
00:08:45 Commandments. Right.
00:08:47 Uh, and then the other one I have is a
00:08:50 present from my mom, a bonsai tree,
00:08:53 which I like bonsai trees, and I have it
00:08:55 on the spring version of it on purpose.
00:08:59 Um,
00:09:01 and it’ll never die on me. [laughter]
00:09:05 >> Yeah, that’s the problem with real
00:09:07 bonsai trees is they’re very finicky.
00:09:10 >> Uh, yeah, it I could keep them alive for
00:09:13 a year. [laughter]
00:09:15 That one that one never will die because
00:09:18 it’s never alive.
00:09:20 >> Yeah.
00:09:21 >> And now
00:09:23 uh there’s this one which we’ll use as a
00:09:25 visual aid for the lesson today. Okay.
00:09:29 Cool.
00:09:29 >> Um so, um
00:09:33 if
00:09:35 so just to preference a little bit as in
00:09:38 just the um rooms of the tabernacle
00:09:43 um that
00:09:47 in spaces and the outer space actually
00:09:50 represents the three degrees of glory
00:09:53 and outer darkness, hell, shaw, whatever
00:09:57 you want to did I say it Right, Ben. I
00:09:59 my
00:10:00 >> shill.
00:10:00 >> Okay,
00:10:03 whatever you want to call it, right?
00:10:06 It’s the same thing, just a different
00:10:08 name.
00:10:09 >> And so the Yeah, I mean that and that’s
00:10:11 an interesting thing because
00:10:15 and I do think that there is and
00:10:20 this is my thought.
00:10:22 is not necessarily scriptural that there
00:10:25 is significance to the fact that each
00:10:27 set that each space gets progressively
00:10:30 smaller and smaller.
00:10:32 >> Yes. And I I don’t remember where, but
00:10:35 one time we talked about in an Isaiah
00:10:37 verse, it talks about how there’ll be
00:10:38 10% celestial.
00:10:40 >> Isaiah Isaiah chapter 6.
00:10:44 >> Okay. Uh we can look at that if Ben
00:10:47 wants to. If not, we can just leave
00:10:49 that.
00:10:49 I’m I’m just saying I’m I don’t think
00:10:52 it’s important for
00:10:53 >> Okay.
00:10:54 >> furnishings.
00:10:55 >> Sure.
00:10:58 >> Okay. So, just real quick, uh let me do
00:11:02 this. Hopefully, people can see. Um
00:11:04 outside
00:11:06 the walls or the curtains
00:11:09 is outer darkness. Okay.
00:11:12 >> Uh just inside the walls or curtains is
00:11:16 the tustral. Okay.
00:11:19 And then
00:11:19 >> pretty big space.
00:11:21 >> Sorry. Say that again.
00:11:22 >> Pretty big space.
00:11:23 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which
00:11:26 possibly,
00:11:28 who knows for sure, but possibly means
00:11:30 most people will be t-stral.
00:11:34 That is speculation though, so take that
00:11:36 with a grain of salt. Okay.
00:11:38 >> Yeah, exactly. Just like I said, it’s my
00:11:40 thought.
00:11:41 >> Yeah, that one’s my thought, but I do
00:11:43 think Ben agrees with me on that
00:11:45 thought. But yeah,
00:11:47 >> it take it with a grain of salt. Okay.
00:11:50 Now, as I saw as I took the covering
00:11:52 off, you now have the turstral
00:11:56 or the uh holy place, right?
00:12:01 >> Yep.
00:12:02 >> And it has a couple of uh fixtures in
00:12:05 there just as the other one does, and
00:12:07 we’ll get to that in a minute. Trying to
00:12:10 trying to I got to be a weather
00:12:13 uh person. And then the holy of holies
00:12:17 which is the smallest. Okay.
00:12:20 All right. So let’s um so and in in
00:12:26 general
00:12:27 it makes sense
00:12:29 that the closer you are to the father
00:12:34 hence the holy holies right
00:12:37 with DNC 76
00:12:40 and actually um
00:12:43 Matthew 5 even without the Joseph Smith
00:12:46 translation or better stated new
00:12:48 translation as Yahweh called it in the
00:12:50 DNC
00:12:51 or the inspired version as the RLDS
00:12:54 church calls it um makes it more clear,
00:12:58 but we’ll just go with the King James to
00:13:00 keep it a little simple. In Matthew 5,
00:13:04 it brings out how
00:13:07 um
00:13:09 if
00:13:11 those who don’t keep his law receive
00:13:15 less. Okay.
00:13:17 >> They are the least in the kingdom of
00:13:19 heaven.
00:13:19 >> Yeah. least. Thank you, Ben. Um, such
00:13:23 that
00:13:25 uh there are people greater than cuz if
00:13:27 there’s least, there’s people maybe some
00:13:31 better and then much greater than them.
00:13:34 Hence the 30 degrees. Okay? Or at least
00:13:37 if anything at minimum that talks about
00:13:40 two degrees there in that Matthew 5
00:13:42 verse
00:13:43 >> least and greatest.
00:13:45 Least and great I should say.
00:13:48 >> Right. And I do think least and greatest
00:13:50 is in the King James. We can go look
00:13:52 real quick. So I’m going to pause while
00:13:54 we just go do a little bit. I don’t want
00:13:58 to focus on this too much, but I’m just
00:13:59 saying mainly I want to bring out how
00:14:01 there is support for this even without
00:14:04 the JST. Okay.
00:14:06 >> And so yeah, that’s Matthew 5:19, I
00:14:09 believe.
00:14:11 >> Okay. So, here’s the Matthew 5:19 that
00:14:14 uh Ben brought up though, just looking
00:14:17 at the paragraph marks which are from
00:14:19 men
00:14:21 uh later on. Okay, maybe we go 17
00:14:25 through 20. Is that okay, Ben?
00:14:27 >> No, that’s fine.
00:14:28 >> Yes.
00:14:28 >> Okay.
00:14:30 >> So, go ahead, Ben. Uh you take charge. I
00:14:33 I’ll I’ll probably rudely interrupt as I
00:14:36 normally do.
00:14:37 >> Well, think not that I am come to
00:14:39 destroy the law. No, when it talk when
00:14:42 um
00:14:43 in rebbitical speak when they talk about
00:14:45 destroying the law, they’re talking
00:14:47 about false interpretations, false
00:14:48 teaching of to of Torah.
00:14:51 >> Yes. And I agree with Ben and and this
00:14:54 that’s a big discussion, but we’ll just
00:14:56 leave it at that. Right.
00:14:57 >> Yeah. Exactly. So, that’s one thing that
00:15:00 I think that they get right. But, uh I’m
00:15:03 not come to destroy the law or the
00:15:06 prophets. I’m not come to destroy but to
00:15:10 fulfill. Now
00:15:11 >> so I want to add something on the three
00:15:12 words or the prophets. That’s the how
00:15:15 the prophets are commentary on Torah
00:15:18 because law is Torah. I I I just it just
00:15:21 is people. Um, in fact, just on that
00:15:25 point, we won’t get into it, but for
00:15:26 those who want to look into it, if you
00:15:28 look in the Greek of Matthew 5, which
00:15:32 there’s also uh Hebrew for it also,
00:15:34 which I do believe is the original. Um,
00:15:37 I can put a link into the notes for
00:15:39 that. Um, but you look at the Greek
00:15:41 under it and you go look at the
00:15:43 Septuagent, which is the Greek
00:15:44 translation of the Old Testament.
00:15:47 >> They match.
00:15:49 >> Yes. for the word Hebrew word for Torah.
00:15:53 I I mean I’m not a Hebrew spooker, so
00:15:55 I’ve um
00:15:58 >> English or Americanized how to say it,
00:16:00 but
00:16:01 >> the Hebrew translators use the Greek
00:16:03 word nomos.
00:16:04 >> Yeah. Which is what the Septuagent uses
00:16:08 for the Greek word Torah. Okay.
00:16:12 >> And we won’t get into that because we’re
00:16:13 sidetracking already. But or prophets is
00:16:16 how the prophets taught people how to
00:16:19 keep the law. Hence, it’s the prophet’s
00:16:22 commentary
00:16:23 >> and the consequences of their not
00:16:26 keeping it.
00:16:27 >> Yeah. Which is the punishments or in
00:16:30 other words, the justice
00:16:33 >> or judgments for not keeping it. Hence,
00:16:37 the three key words for Torah, statutes,
00:16:40 commandments, and judgments.
00:16:43 >> Okay. Think think not that I’m come to
00:16:45 destroy the law or the prophets. I’m not
00:16:47 come to destroy but to fulfill.
00:16:49 >> Now I did want to say first then I can
00:16:53 add if I want.
00:16:54 >> Isabella did you have a question?
00:16:57 >> No.
00:16:58 >> Okay. For verily I say
00:17:00 >> okay so I’m going to interrupt. So Ben
00:17:03 this is fulfill
00:17:05 it’s also in Matthew 4 just
00:17:08 >> Matthew chapter 3 in
00:17:10 >> three. Sorry, I knew it was a previous
00:17:13 one about the baptism.
00:17:16 >> Yeah. At the baptism of Yeshua and
00:17:18 Yeshua is talking to John here and he’s
00:17:22 and John says uh he comes to a John he
00:17:26 comes to John to be baptized and John
00:17:27 says, “Dude, I need to be baptized by
00:17:30 you.”
00:17:33 >> And Yeshua says
00:17:35 this. And Yeshua answering said unto
00:17:38 him, “Suffer it to be so.” Now, allow
00:17:41 this to be, for thus it becometh us to
00:17:44 be, thus it becometh us, interesting uh
00:17:47 in use of the royal plural there, to
00:17:50 fulfill all righteousness.
00:17:54 That same word for fulfill is used here
00:17:57 and in John 5:17. Oh, so minor thing. I
00:18:02 don’t think the us is uh the royal
00:18:04 plural because
00:18:05 >> Oh, it might be it might he might be
00:18:07 talking about him and John.
00:18:08 >> Yeah. Yeah. Because John had because you
00:18:10 can’t Well,
00:18:12 >> you can’t.
00:18:12 >> Yes baptize himself there.
00:18:14 >> No, he did not. He He
00:18:16 >> I do not believe it’s the royal plural.
00:18:18 We can look it up, but I I really doubt
00:18:20 that. But anyways,
00:18:21 >> you’re right. You’re right. There was
00:18:22 somebody else present. U I I I
00:18:26 accept that. I accept your rebuke.
00:18:29 >> Yeah.
00:18:29 >> So, here we are.
00:18:30 >> Thus, it becometh us to fulfill all
00:18:32 righteousness.
00:18:33 >> Now, that is the same Greek word that’s
00:18:36 in the Matthew 51. Okay.
00:18:41 >> Uh, yeah, Ben’s better at speaking Greek
00:18:43 than me. Um, so let’s go look at this at
00:18:46 Bible Hub because if anybody knows me, I
00:18:49 love Bible Hub.
00:18:54 We’ll go there. We can use that. So,
00:19:02 we’ll do Matthew
00:19:07 5:19.
00:19:11 I went too far on accident. Sorry. I
00:19:13 know. Matthew’s the first book in the
00:19:15 New Testament. Not that bad. [laughter]
00:19:22 There we go.
00:19:25 linear. Uh, whosoever then biggest one
00:19:28 of these comments is the least. And
00:19:31 >> 17. Sorry. 17.
00:19:32 >> Oh,
00:19:33 oh, yeah. Yeah, you’re right. I I maybe
00:19:36 I
00:19:38 >> That’s fine.
00:19:41 >> Uh, not think that I have come to
00:19:43 abolish law or the prophets, but I have
00:19:45 come to abol not to come abolish, but to
00:19:47 fulfill. Okay, so let’s go look at
00:19:49 playeroo. Um, if you want punctuation,
00:19:52 uh, follow Ben more than me. Um,
00:19:56 I I I’m probably Americanizing
00:19:59 everything I’m saying. Um,
00:20:01 >> that’s probably
00:20:02 that is correct. He is. It’s [laughter]
00:20:05 okay. It’s okay. I We love him anyway.
00:20:09 >> Uh, so
00:20:14 the one I want to focus on here is Fully
00:20:16 Preach. Okay.
00:20:18 >> Now, let’s just let’s just prove this.
00:20:21 That was uh the other one that is the
00:20:24 same word that was
00:20:28 uh
00:20:28 >> John Matthew 3:19 I think also 3:19 39
00:20:33 >> I just want to show that it’s they’re
00:20:35 both the same Greek word. Okay, that’s
00:20:44 all right.
00:20:46 >> Uh maybe it’s 17
00:20:49 or 15. Uh, give me one second. Let me
00:20:51 look.
00:20:57 It’s 15.
00:20:59 >> There we go.
00:21:00 >> That’s fine. I I mean, I don’t have
00:21:02 everything memorized either.
00:21:04 >> Yeah. I I
00:21:06 Yeah.
00:21:07 >> I focus on the ideas more than the
00:21:09 actual
00:21:10 >> I I find that the ideas are more
00:21:12 important than script chapter and verse.
00:21:15 >> Yeah. Yeah. The chapter and verse stuff
00:21:17 is a Greek idea, not a Hebrew one. But
00:21:19 anyways, uh answering however, yeah, so
00:21:22 this is Matthew 3:15 about the baptism.
00:21:25 Uh answering however, Jesus said unto
00:21:28 him, “Permit presently.” So you do the
00:21:31 baptism. Thus indeed fitting it is to us
00:21:35 to fulfill. So there’s the Let’s just
00:21:37 make sure that’s not
00:21:40 Oh. Uh that’s the wrong
00:21:43 >> Did I click the wrong? That’s I mean Oh
00:21:45 no. Oh no. Oh, you were looking at to
00:21:47 us. Yep. Yep.
00:21:51 The word is the word is is ego. Ego.
00:21:55 >> That’s singular, not plural. So, that’s
00:21:57 an interesting weird mistransation
00:21:59 there. But anyways, that’s another
00:22:00 subject.
00:22:02 >> Yep.
00:22:02 >> I still don’t think it’s majestic
00:22:04 plural. It’s just saying I need your
00:22:06 help to to do this, right? But
00:22:08 >> I I I think that makes more sense under
00:22:10 the circumstances.
00:22:12 >> Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so here’s play rue
00:22:14 to fill all righteousness. So this is
00:22:16 talking about the baptism event. Okay.
00:22:19 >> Okay. So what so the the reason this is
00:22:21 a significant is these same words are
00:22:24 used here and while ple when applied to
00:22:27 prophecy does mean it’s done and you
00:22:30 don’t kind it’s done it’s completed
00:22:34 in this instance
00:22:37 and in the instance of Torah which is
00:22:40 the revelation of the mind and will of
00:22:42 Elohim. So if you’ve done away with
00:22:44 tora, you’ve done away with the mind and
00:22:45 will of your god.
00:22:48 >> Yeah. Uh yes. So you do need because
00:22:50 there’s multiple definitions as you can
00:22:52 even see here on the screen, right?
00:22:54 >> Um but I I I will sidetrack us one
00:22:58 little bit more as Ben brings something
00:23:00 up that goes along with this. Even
00:23:01 within this same
00:23:04 uh lecture, sermon on the mount as most
00:23:06 people know, I prefer to call it sermon
00:23:08 on Torah. But in Matthew 7,
00:23:13 um it it brings out how
00:23:16 if you don’t keep the law, you will
00:23:19 depart from him. Right. So here’s a
00:23:22 parable from the work of iniquity.
00:23:25 >> Yes. Or lawlessness or sinner, whatever.
00:23:29 >> Yeah. The actual more correct definition
00:23:33 uh the Greek word there is used there is
00:23:36 anomos
00:23:38 or lawlessness.
00:23:39 >> Yeah. Anti-law whatever you want to I
00:23:43 mean there same thing multiple ways of
00:23:46 saying it right. And well actually uh
00:23:48 this somewhat deals with the tabernacle
00:23:50 also and I’ll get into that in just a
00:23:52 minute. Um, so as we see the main go
00:23:58 back to the main point when we went to
00:23:59 sermon on the mount or sermon on the
00:24:01 Torah was to bring out how there’s
00:24:03 multiple glories. Oh, we just only did
00:24:06 17. So, okay. So, me and my big mouth uh
00:24:10 I think you need to finish the rest of
00:24:12 this now that I’m
00:24:13 >> okay for Okay, I think not that I have
00:24:16 come to destroy. Uh, actually, I had
00:24:18 only just started on verseh six on verse
00:24:21 18. So, for verily I say unto you, till
00:24:24 heaven and earth pass, one y or one tit
00:24:28 shall in no wise pass from Torah till
00:24:31 all be fulfilled.
00:24:33 >> Okay. So,
00:24:36 I mean I I have been outside today. I
00:24:39 did see earth and and the sky or heaven.
00:24:42 >> Yeah. Uh because Yeah. The uh Yeah. The
00:24:45 Hebrew word for heaven basically just
00:24:47 means sky.
00:24:49 >> Yeah. So,
00:24:51 so till heaven and earth, so when Yeshua
00:24:53 says, “Till heaven and earth pass until
00:24:55 until
00:24:56 this earth and its sky pass, one yod or
00:25:01 and one tit or one tit shall in no wise
00:25:04 pass from Torah.” So ju just so people
00:25:08 um a simile or so people can understand
00:25:12 what a jaw and tit is somewhat along
00:25:15 with the Latin letters. It’s a dot for
00:25:19 the I and the cross for the T. Okay.
00:25:24 Um
00:25:26 it’s kind of the little parts of the
00:25:28 block Hebrew letters. Okay.
00:25:31 >> Yeah. The uh the yod is the teeniest the
00:25:35 yod is the uh smallest portion of um
00:25:42 is is the smallest portion of a Hebrew
00:25:44 of a Hebrew block letter that there is.
00:25:47 Um, and the tit is those uh the titles
00:25:52 are those small marks indicating the
00:25:54 vowels.
00:25:56 >> No, that came later.
00:25:58 >> Yeah,
00:25:58 >> I don’t remember the titles, but it it
00:26:00 because
00:26:01 >> Okay, that’s fair enough.
00:26:02 >> That stuff was added in the Middle Ages.
00:26:04 But anyways, that’s another subject.
00:26:06 Okay,
00:26:07 >> that’s another subject entirely.
00:26:08 >> No, no, that’s fine. That’s fine.
00:26:10 >> At the same at the same time, it’s
00:26:12 perfectly I’m perfectly fine with being
00:26:15 wrong.
00:26:16 >> Yeah. Yeah. I It’s a minor thing, right?
00:26:18 Who? It’s not a big deal.
00:26:20 >> Yeah, exactly.
00:26:21 >> So, but it’s saying that Torah will
00:26:24 never go away because there’s always
00:26:25 going to be heaven and an earth. Even in
00:26:28 this millennium after the second Kevin
00:26:33 um second coming, there’s a heaven and
00:26:35 earth. And even in the eternities, we’re
00:26:38 going to live here on earth. So, and
00:26:40 there’s going to be a sky. Heaven and
00:26:42 earth is never going to pass away.
00:26:45 >> That’s right. So,
00:26:48 so therefore, because it will never pass
00:26:51 away, whosoever therefore shall break
00:26:55 one of these least commandments. Oh,
00:26:57 >> wait, wait a minute. Is did that I I’m
00:27:00 confused. Does that say the biggest one
00:27:02 or the smallest one?
00:27:04 >> Yeah. Well, and that’s the really that’s
00:27:07 a really crazy thing because it’s like,
00:27:10 well, how do you determine which one’s
00:27:12 the least? But that you do that.
00:27:15 >> Okay. So I in general people will
00:27:17 probably agree on on on the big contrast
00:27:21 some of the little small contrasts there
00:27:24 probably will be a lot of disagreements
00:27:25 on it. Right.
00:27:26 >> Right. Exactly. One of these least
00:27:29 commandments and shall teach men so he
00:27:33 shall be called the least in the kingdom
00:27:34 of heaven. Now it’s really interesting
00:27:36 that the people the ones that they
00:27:38 really compla the ones that the a lot of
00:27:40 the lawless people really complain about
00:27:42 are not the least commandments.
00:27:46 They’re the Sabbath.
00:27:47 >> No, I’ve heard him complain about that.
00:27:49 But I also heard him complain about the
00:27:51 party commandments, aka
00:27:56 holidays, the feast of whatever you want
00:27:58 to call them.
00:27:59 >> But it’s part of observing the Sabbath.
00:28:01 It’s not one of the least commandments.
00:28:03 >> The Sabbath.
00:28:04 >> Um yeah, because the the Sabbaths plural
00:28:08 are a sign that we’re his people. Um, so
00:28:11 I do agree it’s not one of the least,
00:28:13 but I mean who wants to complain about
00:28:17 doing a party?
00:28:20 >> Depends on how expensive you and it
00:28:22 depends on how expensive you feel you
00:28:24 have to make it. You might complain.
00:28:26 >> Okay. All right. Okay. Val, but it
00:28:28 doesn’t have to be. [laughter]
00:28:30 >> So yeah, one of these least commandments
00:28:33 and shall teach men so, he shall be
00:28:35 called the least in the kingdom of
00:28:36 heaven. But whosoever shall do and teach
00:28:39 them do and teach them
00:28:42 >> the commandments Torah.
00:28:44 >> Yeah. The commandments of Torah, the
00:28:47 same shall be called great in the
00:28:48 kingdom of in the kingdom of heavens.
00:28:51 >> Okay. So 19 shows there’s least and
00:28:54 great in the King James. Okay.
00:28:58 For I say unto you that except your
00:29:00 righteousness shall exceed the
00:29:02 righteousness of the scribes and
00:29:04 Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter
00:29:07 into the kingdom of heaven.
00:29:10 >> Yeah. Okay.
00:29:12 >> And this is because the Pharisees tried
00:29:14 to enter into the kingdom of heaven
00:29:15 based on their own law and their own
00:29:18 rules
00:29:21 >> and their righteousness was the
00:29:23 righteousness of men. So I I I I I would
00:29:27 modify Ben’s statement a little bit.
00:29:29 They tried to get there on their own
00:29:31 righteousness.
00:29:32 >> Mhm.
00:29:34 >> You can’t
00:29:36 I don’t know about you people, I have
00:29:39 sinned.
00:29:40 >> Yeah.
00:29:41 >> I And I’ve done more sinning than just
00:29:43 the least. Okay. So I’m in big trouble.
00:29:46 Well, I I do think this is one of those
00:29:49 things where there’s a I do think that
00:29:52 Stephen’s emphasis is very important. We
00:29:56 can’t get in on our own righteousness.
00:29:58 >> Yeah.
00:29:59 >> We need Yeshua.
00:30:01 >> But I do think that it’s also important
00:30:03 to realize that when we invent
00:30:06 commandments around the commandments, we
00:30:09 are entering into the realm of trying to
00:30:12 live by our own righteousness.
00:30:15 >> Yeah. becoming a god or Elohim of
00:30:18 ourselves. But anyways, um so I do agree
00:30:21 with Ben, but I I I do personally prefer
00:30:25 the focus of how we need Yeshua, period.
00:30:28 >> Oh, absolutely.
00:30:30 >> To get in the kingdom. Um and we’ll see
00:30:32 that in in the description. I think
00:30:36 that’s good enough to show even um
00:30:39 Matthew 5 and Matthew 7
00:30:42 >> has things that go with the degrees of
00:30:44 glory. Okay. Okay. And we’ll get into
00:30:45 Matthew 7 more in just a second. Um,
00:30:50 so let me uh move my camera. So I will
00:30:55 tell you right in here which um
00:30:59 restorationists will call tustrial
00:31:02 domain are the least. Okay.
00:31:06 >> Mhm.
00:31:06 >> And then the celestial domain is the
00:31:09 greatest. Okay. So it’s right here in
00:31:14 the tab. Oh, sorry. Uh, tabernacle
00:31:17 structure. Okay.
00:31:19 >> Out here’s outer darkness. Right here’s
00:31:21 turstral. Okay.
00:31:24 >> Now, let’s uh focus on the implements or
00:31:29 the not implements, sorry, the
00:31:31 furnishings inside these areas. And so,
00:31:34 we’ll start with the testro, the lowest.
00:31:38 Okay.
00:31:39 The altar. Okay.
00:31:42 Um,
00:31:45 >> what do you do on the altar?
00:31:47 >> You burn sacrifices.
00:31:49 >> Yes. And the one that the kit has are
00:31:53 lambs.
00:31:54 >> Mhm.
00:31:56 >> John stated Yeshua is the lamb
00:31:59 of God or Elohim to be more specific. I
00:32:02 I really don’t like the God translation
00:32:05 because it gets into Greek ideas.
00:32:09 So the two things that the
00:32:12 um tustrial see is the altar and the
00:32:16 sacrifice along with the
00:32:20 uh brazen. Oh, my mind just went blank.
00:32:23 >> The brass labor.
00:32:25 >> Yeah. Yes. Where the priests washed
00:32:27 their hands, right?
00:32:30 >> After to wash their hands of the blood.
00:32:33 Okay. Now, uh, let’s talk about some
00:32:37 symbolism here. The altar I I think it’s
00:32:41 pretty obvious that and the animals is
00:32:44 symbolic of Yeshua’s atonement.
00:32:48 >> Those who are in the kingdom, any of
00:32:50 these three degrees
00:32:53 are in the kingdom of heaven. Okay?
00:32:56 >> And they are there by reason of the
00:32:58 atonement.
00:32:59 >> Yeah. They recognize and they see the
00:33:02 atonement. Okay.
00:33:04 They recognize the means by which their
00:33:06 debt was paid.
00:33:07 >> Yes.
00:33:09 Now the
00:33:13 Sorry, Ben, say that word again.
00:33:15 >> Labor.
00:33:16 >> Labor where they wash their hands. Okay.
00:33:20 Now, um this gets into maybe more
00:33:25 symbolism, but hands is symbolic of
00:33:27 works.
00:33:29 >> Works.
00:33:31 as you work with your hands, right? Um,
00:33:34 at least more even as a software
00:33:36 engineer. Guess what? I Oops. I’m still
00:33:41 working with my hands here. Okay.
00:33:43 >> Y some of it came apart. I’ll worry
00:33:46 about that later. Um, so I’m still
00:33:49 working with my hands even when I have a
00:33:51 software engineer job. Okay. Because I’m
00:33:53 I’m typing that I that’s not a I mean
00:33:56 there’s a lot of mental going on, but
00:33:58 I’m still typing. Um
00:34:01 >> they’re getting washed.
00:34:05 >> The works are the works are getting
00:34:07 cleansed.
00:34:08 >> Yeah. They understand that their their
00:34:11 works have been cleansed.
00:34:13 >> That’s what they get to see.
00:34:16 They get to see and know that there’s
00:34:19 atonement that was paid to I don’t like
00:34:23 the word paid. Say um justified them and
00:34:27 satisfied the debt. Okay.
00:34:29 >> Yep.
00:34:30 >> Uh 2 Nephi 9 and Elma 42 uses satisfied.
00:34:37 Um
00:34:39 it’s not pito pro. Okay.
00:34:43 Um,
00:34:44 >> and it’s and it’s not a
00:34:47 uh it’s not a universal blanket to cover
00:34:51 all sins that you will ever commit.
00:34:58 >> It it covers the sins that you committed
00:35:00 prior to justification.
00:35:04 I
00:35:04 >> I would wonder if that’s
00:35:05 >> that’s how I understand. At least that’s
00:35:07 how I
00:35:08 >> I would approach it differently myself.
00:35:10 >> Okay. Um
00:35:14 it I think of it more of as a covering.
00:35:17 You you come under his authority.
00:35:20 >> Yes.
00:35:20 >> When you’re justified and he will take
00:35:23 care of your sins.
00:35:25 >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:26 >> Period.
00:35:27 >> Yeah.
00:35:27 >> In fact, guess what? That’s remember how
00:35:30 we read uh part of Matthew 7 where the
00:35:34 lawlessness
00:35:35 >> Yep.
00:35:36 >> Some of the lawless will go into the
00:35:39 kingdom. They’re still covered.
00:35:41 >> That’s true. That’s true.
00:35:42 >> There’s two groups of the lawlessness
00:35:44 though. I will bring out real quick.
00:35:46 >> There’s the tstral who actually are
00:35:49 covered under Yeshua’s authority
00:35:54 and the sons of preditions who are not.
00:35:58 Mhm. You know, I do think it’s really
00:36:00 interesting that when you look into the
00:36:02 law, the only offerings given
00:36:07 in Leviticus for sin are for unknowing
00:36:11 sin.
00:36:14 >> Oh, I disagree with that. But we don’t
00:36:15 have to get into that.
00:36:16 >> Yeah. But okay, that’s that’s
00:36:20 >> there’s a sacrifice for leaders
00:36:22 specifically for their unknown sins. And
00:36:24 there’s ones where you do know what you
00:36:26 did and go. But we’re let’s not get in
00:36:28 that. That’s another side subject. But
00:36:30 that’s
00:36:30 >> I’m getting sidetracked. I’m getting
00:36:32 sidetracked.
00:36:32 >> Yeah, that’s fine. But back to the main
00:36:35 point. The people that will receive
00:36:38 tustral glory, they know about the
00:36:41 atonement
00:36:43 and
00:36:45 uh they know their works, their hands
00:36:48 have been cleansed.
00:36:50 >> Yep.
00:36:50 >> Okay.
00:36:52 >> Yeah.
00:36:53 That’s what they get. Now, as brought
00:36:55 out in Matthew 7, who are the lawless
00:36:57 ones? They won’t be able to see Yeshua.
00:36:59 Okay? Now, so that gets into somewhat
00:37:03 what’s in the turstral
00:37:06 and specifically that the tstral does
00:37:10 not see.
00:37:12 So, right here, maybe we’ll focus on
00:37:14 this one first is the manora. Okay.
00:37:19 >> Yes. Um, now this is I they did make it
00:37:22 so I can take this out. I’m not going to
00:37:24 try to put it now. Um, so seven
00:37:28 I’ll do this is seven candlesticks,
00:37:31 right?
00:37:34 >> And it’s like a tree. Okay.
00:37:39 This is the tree of life.
00:37:42 >> Or in other words, Yeshua. I I will tell
00:37:46 you I have a little pet peeve where
00:37:49 people claim the manora is about the
00:37:52 seven high holidays.
00:37:54 It’s not.
00:37:56 No, it’s common in Hebrew people.
00:37:58 >> Yeah, that’s I Yeah, I know. I’m I’m
00:38:01 just I’m expressing the same
00:38:03 frustration.
00:38:06 >> It’s not This is Yeshua. Yeshua is the
00:38:10 tree of life.
00:38:12 >> That’s what this is. So, um, let’s talk
00:38:15 about some. So, this is not the best
00:38:18 demonstration [clears throat] here
00:38:19 because it’s Legos, but it’s that’s what
00:38:22 I have. That’s So, um, well, I actually
00:38:25 have this manora
00:38:28 also that I use. Maybe this one’s a
00:38:30 little better. Um, though it has some
00:38:36 uh artist
00:38:39 license to it. So anyways, um but
00:38:42 there’s the seven candles. Okay. In
00:38:45 fact, let let me get a picture um online
00:38:48 real quick. Maybe that might give us a
00:38:49 little better demonstration to work
00:38:51 with. Um you can see how well I’m
00:38:55 prepared. Huh.
00:38:56 >> That’s all good.
00:39:07 >> Ah, got to get on the home roll.
00:39:18 Oh, there’s a good picture. We’ll just
00:39:20 use that because then if nothing else,
00:39:22 we can just see it really easily.
00:39:24 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:25 >> So, there’s the seven candlesticks.
00:39:28 Um, some things are harder to tell on
00:39:30 here. This is from the Temple Institute.
00:39:33 Um, which I disagree on them on much,
00:39:37 but anyways, that’s another subject.
00:39:40 >> At least the minora is right.
00:39:42 >> Huh.
00:39:43 >> At least the manora is right.
00:39:45 >> Uh, maybe it’s better than some others.
00:39:49 I will say that.
00:39:50 >> Um,
00:39:52 the one thing I I do agree with how
00:39:54 there’s flowers here at the top. Okay.
00:39:57 >> Yes.
00:39:58 >> Now, this gets into some other
00:40:00 interesting symbolism.
00:40:02 flower represents Torah. Okay.
00:40:06 >> Uh one example is from Yeshua stating
00:40:10 how even Solomon was not didn’t have as
00:40:13 much as glory as the liies of the field.
00:40:18 >> It’s going all along with how Solomon
00:40:22 kind of broke Torah later in his life.
00:40:24 He kept it in the beginning, he broke it
00:40:26 later and then maybe repented later. But
00:40:29 anyways,
00:40:31 um but the statement from Yeshua makes
00:40:34 me think he did not repent because the
00:40:37 liies had more glory.
00:40:40 >> Yeah.
00:40:41 >> So, let’s get to that. Glory
00:40:45 goes along with those who keep Elohim’s
00:40:48 Yahweh’s Yeshua’s Jesus’s law
00:40:52 or Torah. Okay. Well, that that law is
00:40:57 the source of his glory.
00:41:00 >> Yeah. Um,
00:41:03 now on top of the flowers is this part
00:41:07 where the flame comes out. Okay. That’s
00:41:11 light. Torah is light.
00:41:15 All right. I mean, there’s Oops.
00:41:19 I just something really interesting
00:41:22 about that.
00:41:24 they you have the flowers there beneath
00:41:26 the place where the fire comes out. And
00:41:29 in the and the and I do love what you
00:41:33 said about the flowers, I think it’s
00:41:34 also important um in the translation in
00:41:38 the new in the King James translation,
00:41:40 what the word that they have there for
00:41:42 those flowers is almonds. And the reason
00:41:45 for that is because almonds actually
00:41:47 blossom before they produce their nuts.
00:41:51 Um, so,
00:41:54 uh, I I I think there’s almonds and
00:41:57 blossoms, but I I mean, we could go look
00:42:00 at the verse. I’m not too worried about
00:42:01 it.
00:42:02 >> But I do want to talk about the almonds.
00:42:03 But real quick, the Torah is light.
00:42:06 There’s lots of verses that brings out
00:42:09 how his commandment is a lamp. His law,
00:42:12 Torah, is a light.
00:42:15 >> On sermon on Torah or Sermon on the
00:42:17 Mount, it talks about how you are to be
00:42:19 a light. Yes,
00:42:22 >> this is the perfect example. Yeshua
00:42:26 is a perfect example how to be the
00:42:28 light. Seven uh is symbolic of uh
00:42:32 perfection. So, let me get that page up.
00:42:37 Oops. Sorry, I’m missing part of my
00:42:40 keyboard and it makes it feel funny. Um,
00:42:44 so let’s go look at seven. perfection,
00:42:48 completion,
00:42:51 um
00:42:52 >> to be full,
00:42:53 >> the full everything, right?
00:42:56 >> Yeah.
00:42:58 >> Uh so the seven is not the seven high
00:43:00 holidays. It’s showing Yeshua’s perfect
00:43:04 complete
00:43:06 whole light.
00:43:09 >> Yes.
00:43:12 And
00:43:13 >> the high holidays, the high holidays are
00:43:15 a sign of that you’re his of his people,
00:43:19 but they’re not the fullness of the
00:43:20 light.
00:43:22 >> Yeah. They teach the gospel, and that’s
00:43:24 another subject. I can put a link to
00:43:30 h it.
00:43:33 Sorry, I forget the name.
00:43:38 uh the prophet triad and Yahweh’s
00:43:40 festivals that talks about those. Okay.
00:43:43 Um
00:43:45 but the seven deals with perfection and
00:43:49 then the light that’s coming out of the
00:43:51 flowers represents Torah
00:43:55 >> is showing how you where you get your
00:43:58 light by following Yeshua and keeping
00:44:00 his commandments.
00:44:03 And um let’s go back to the tabernacle.
00:44:08 Now that we know, oh, before we go back,
00:44:11 let’s talk about the almonds. Almonds
00:44:13 are symbolic of blessings. Okay.
00:44:17 >> Yes. And they are also they’re also a
00:44:20 great sustainer of life in desert
00:44:22 places.
00:44:23 >> Yes.
00:44:25 Which is a blessing actually.
00:44:28 U so I I
00:44:30 >> knowing the historical
00:44:33 context of things helps bring out the
00:44:35 symbolism and the deeper meaning of
00:44:37 things. Okay.
00:44:39 >> Um but
00:44:42 uh we have keeping so I I don’t know how
00:44:44 accurate this is that these are it’s
00:44:48 some of these things are debatable on
00:44:50 some how these artifacts actually
00:44:52 looked. Okay. But anyways, there are
00:44:55 scriptures that bring out how some
00:44:57 specific things need to be there, but
00:44:59 all the little details are debatable.
00:45:02 Okay. Um, but I believe there was
00:45:05 flowers and almonds on the manora. Not
00:45:09 just one, but both. Okay.
00:45:11 >> Okay.
00:45:12 Um, so with following Torah, you get
00:45:15 blessings, which actually
00:45:18 the almonds, I do believe goes along
00:45:21 with plucking the fruit off of the tree
00:45:25 of life in Lehi’s vision.
00:45:28 >> And just something for another day.
00:45:31 >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:32 >> I don’t really want to sidetrack us too
00:45:33 far on this.
00:45:34 >> Yeah. Yeah. So that’s in the LDS
00:45:36 versification. That’s uh First Nephi 8.
00:45:39 But the the thing I wanted to focus on
00:45:42 is how flower represents Torah. As I
00:45:45 talked about how, you know, Solomon
00:45:48 didn’t have the glory as the fields of
00:45:50 the liies.
00:45:52 Um, and light is Torah. And when you’re
00:45:56 keeping God’s ways, you’re a light to
00:45:59 others. This is talked about in Sermon
00:46:01 on Torah or more known as Sermon on the
00:46:03 Mount. Mhm.
00:46:05 >> And the light makes it so you can see or
00:46:08 understand.
00:46:10 >> Yep.
00:46:10 >> And know where you’re going, right?
00:46:13 >> Mhm.
00:46:14 >> Okay. So, that’s probably enough of the
00:46:16 manora.
00:46:17 >> But just one thing.
00:46:19 >> Okay. Go ahead.
00:46:22 >> And I believe it is Zechariah.
00:46:27 He has a vision
00:46:29 of the of the two um of the two trees.
00:46:34 >> Yeah. The two trees
00:46:35 >> standing on each side of the manora. And
00:46:38 there are pipes running from the trees
00:46:40 to the manora. And in the doctrine and
00:46:42 covenants, it is revealed that those two
00:46:44 trees are the two witnesses
00:46:47 spoken of in Revelation.
00:46:50 >> Uh yes. Uh two of the three or two of
00:46:54 the three.
00:46:54 >> There’s seven because there’s seven.
00:46:56 Anyways, yes, it is the primary guy
00:46:59 that’s coming and his religious helper
00:47:01 is what’s being talked about there.
00:47:03 Okay.
00:47:04 >> And but that’s something we can go into
00:47:06 in more depth on another day.
00:47:08 >> Yeah. Yeah. Um so knowing that the
00:47:13 manora represents the tree of life,
00:47:15 which is just another name for Yeshua,
00:47:18 Jesus, let’s go back and look at the
00:47:22 tabernacle again. Okay. this. Maybe I’ll
00:47:26 just kind of hurry and put it back. Oh
00:47:28 boy, it came apart. So, just pretend
00:47:31 it’s together cuz I’m not going to take
00:47:33 the time to fix it.
00:47:36 Um, so here’s the broken manora. I’ll
00:47:41 fix it later. This is Lego set. Look how
00:47:43 it’s in the turstral
00:47:46 kingdom area or the holy place. Okay.
00:47:50 as a con
00:47:51 >> celestial people who are lawless
00:47:55 >> because all they know is the atonement
00:47:57 and their works have been cleansed
00:48:00 >> they don’t get to see the Messiah
00:48:03 >> yes
00:48:05 the the true light that lights the world
00:48:07 >> right
00:48:09 just like Matthew 7 brings out okay
00:48:11 among DNC 76 also and some other places
00:48:15 like the parable of the so oh fact one
00:48:19 thing since I the pair of the sewer. Let
00:48:21 me bring up the Mark version real quick
00:48:25 because the Mark uh version
00:48:29 has an important point to it.
00:48:34 Um
00:48:39 so I have these in kaya but that’s
00:48:42 another subject. Um so
00:48:47 I need to make that a little smaller.
00:48:48 Oh, no. I can Can I close that?
00:48:52 Oh, there we go. Okay. Um, so I’ll I’ll
00:48:56 just Oh, Brennon, you want to read the
00:48:58 SG Mark
00:49:01 um 4:12 or King James 4:13 real quick
00:49:06 for us.
00:49:09 >> Yeah. Uh um
00:49:11 >> and Yeshua said unto them, the obedient
00:49:15 uh understand ye not this parable, and
00:49:19 how then will ye come to understand all
00:49:22 parables?
00:49:24 So the the the parable of the so has
00:49:28 four different groups in it. And I’m
00:49:30 just going to tell you uh there are the
00:49:33 tstral sons of preditions. O is one
00:49:38 level,
00:49:39 Testral is another, turstral is one, and
00:49:42 Celestial is the other. Okay. So whether
00:49:45 if you agree that that correlates to the
00:49:48 DNC 76 or not, which is the three
00:49:51 degrees of heaven along with outer
00:49:54 darkness or shaw or whatever you want to
00:49:57 hell, whatever you want to call it.
00:50:00 Go. Um, in fact, this is one of my
00:50:03 unfinished posts that I started for you,
00:50:04 Brandon. I was working to show the
00:50:07 different sections. So, how they all
00:50:09 correlate and teach the same thing. I’m
00:50:12 bumping my Legos. Um, so it’s there if
00:50:16 you want to see it.
00:50:18 >> If you have eyes to see and ears to
00:50:20 hear, it’s there. It’s everywhere. Um in
00:50:24 fact he said how will you understand any
00:50:28 parable if you don’t understand
00:50:32 this? Okay.
00:50:33 >> Yeah. So the the thing is is that the
00:50:36 thing that we have to bear in mind with
00:50:38 all of the parables that he says he’s
00:50:41 saying the kingdom of heaven is likened
00:50:43 onto this and it’s always in very
00:50:45 different aspects of the kingdom of
00:50:47 heaven but in that particular the sewer
00:50:50 you’re definitely talking about the
00:50:52 degrees of war.
00:50:53 >> Yes. So going back uh to my Lego set
00:50:57 here that I keep pumping
00:51:00 the manora which represents the tree of
00:51:03 life or in other words Yeshua is in the
00:51:06 tstral those who believe in the law and
00:51:09 we’ll get in that a little bit okay
00:51:12 not it’s not where any of the tstral
00:51:16 people are allowed to go
00:51:19 they don’t so they’re in the kingdom but
00:51:21 they do not get to see Yeshua which
00:51:23 actually goes along with DNC 76 and
00:51:26 Matthew 7. Okay. So, another thing in
00:51:30 here is the table of showbread. Okay.
00:51:34 So, there Go ahead. Did you want to say
00:51:36 something?
00:51:37 >> U No, I was just like, yes, the table.
00:51:39 >> Okay. So, uh do you remember how many uh
00:51:42 show brides there are?
00:51:44 >> No, I do not. Not off the top of my
00:51:47 head.
00:51:47 >> It’s 12. Okay.
00:51:49 >> Oh, well, that makes sense.
00:51:51 Um
00:51:52 >> I I I would have guessed 12, but I
00:51:54 didn’t want to guess.
00:51:56 >> Okay, that’s fine. So, let’s let’s go.
00:52:00 Um so, first of all,
00:52:03 uh for those who like the sacrament we
00:52:07 just did, right? The bread goes along
00:52:10 with
00:52:13 commandments.
00:52:14 >> Commandments. Yes. And the wine is the
00:52:16 atonement.
00:52:17 >> Yes. Um uh but the bread is the
00:52:21 commandments and so
00:52:25 and there’s 12 of them. No, that’s not
00:52:27 what 12 is going on here. So we can look
00:52:29 at the symbolism page, but 12 means goes
00:52:33 along with governance. Okay.
00:52:35 >> Yep. Governmental perfection.
00:52:38 >> Yes. So let me go let’s go look at that
00:52:42 real quick.
00:52:44 Now we can close those.
00:52:55 Go to 12. So this is where you have to
00:52:59 take
00:53:01 um context into account here. Okay. And
00:53:04 that it takes time
00:53:07 to ponder and pray and get answers.
00:53:09 Okay. But one of the thing 12 has to do
00:53:13 with governmental. Okay. The government,
00:53:16 >> how you’re supposed to govern yourself.
00:53:18 Okay.
00:53:20 So,
00:53:23 if bread represents the law and 12 how
00:53:27 we’re supposed to govern, could that be
00:53:30 we’re supposed to govern ourselves by
00:53:31 the law?
00:53:35 >> Yes. So,
00:53:36 >> it also it also means that the law is
00:53:38 governmental perfection.
00:53:40 >> Yes. Yeah. It’s how we’re supposed to
00:53:42 govern ourselves. Mhm.
00:53:44 >> Like uh is it uh Emma 37 or No, probably
00:53:50 more likely Emma 38 brings out how
00:53:52 you’re supposed to bridle your passions.
00:53:54 >> Yes.
00:53:55 >> Now, I’ll just say this real quick. If
00:53:57 you go look at the 1828 dictionary
00:53:59 definition of bridal, it brings out how
00:54:01 they’re
00:54:03 strings, ropes, cords,
00:54:07 >> uh put on a horse to keep them on the
00:54:09 path. You know what that sounds like?
00:54:13 the tazits to help us remember to keep
00:54:17 the commandments.
00:54:18 >> Amen.
00:54:20 >> Now, there’s I’ll just leave it at that
00:54:22 because I I don’t want to I’ve already
00:54:24 probably done too many sid tracks, but
00:54:28 I I I actually do believe and I and
00:54:30 probably more I think it’s more Elma 38
00:54:33 than 37. I think 37’s a prophecy of uh
00:54:37 the Old Testament coming back
00:54:40 >> and bringing people to repentance, which
00:54:42 shows that what’s in there, which is
00:54:45 teaching Torah, uh the prophets,
00:54:49 is still valid because if if it’s not
00:54:52 valid, how is it going to bring you back
00:54:53 to repentance? But anyways, that’s
00:54:54 another subject. Um, and so I think 38
00:54:58 is telling his weward son to go repent
00:55:02 and keep the commandments and bridle his
00:55:05 passions, as in
00:55:07 use strings
00:55:09 to remind you to stay on the path, which
00:55:12 is tassels, tazits,
00:55:15 whatever you want to call them. Um so
00:55:19 anyways
00:55:21 um but there they the turstrial people
00:55:27 are aware of the law and how they are to
00:55:29 govern themselves by it. Okay.
00:55:35 We’ll put that back in.
00:55:37 >> They’re they’re not always 110%
00:55:39 successful.
00:55:41 >> Uh well okay. So if you go look at the
00:55:43 even on this parable of the sewer, they
00:55:46 get distracted with the concerns of the
00:55:48 world.
00:55:50 >> Uh I forget DNC 76 how they put it, but
00:55:54 it they’re definitely not as diligent,
00:55:56 right? So
00:55:58 >> um they’re kind of they’re keeping some
00:56:02 but not all of it.
00:56:03 >> Okay. I mean, this could even go along
00:56:06 with the um
00:56:10 the 10 virgins. Okay.
00:56:12 >> Exactly. Yeah.
00:56:14 >> Um where
00:56:17 this is a generalization, not perfect
00:56:19 example, but I do tend to think that the
00:56:24 turstral people will keep the five moral
00:56:27 commandments, dealing with other people.
00:56:32 They’re not going to keep the other five
00:56:34 that deal with how to worship Yeshua.
00:56:36 >> Okay.
00:56:37 >> Yeah. And that’s and that is uh I mean
00:56:41 it’s something that makes sense, but
00:56:43 it’s definitely not specifically stated
00:56:46 in scriptures.
00:56:47 >> No. And and some of it’s reading into
00:56:49 it, but it is interesting that there’s 5
00:56:51 plus 5 is 10. The 10 divisions of
00:56:55 [laughter]
00:56:56 >> So I I do think it’s valid, but don’t
00:56:59 take it too far. Right.
00:57:01 >> Yeah.
00:57:02 >> Cuz some may keep this one and not that
00:57:04 one. So, but the main point is they’re
00:57:06 not keeping them all.
00:57:08 >> Okay.
00:57:09 >> But I do think there is a general focus
00:57:12 of what they do for others and how they
00:57:16 treat others. But with how they’re being
00:57:18 distracted with the concerns of the
00:57:20 world, they’re not keeping the ones that
00:57:22 dealing with Yeshua. Because although
00:57:24 they’re in the concerns of the world,
00:57:26 they’re treating Bey nicely like what
00:57:28 the moral five moral ones have to do
00:57:31 with. So
00:57:33 >> yeah, I can see it. I can see it. It
00:57:35 makes sense.
00:57:36 >> Yeah. Yeah. But that’s according to
00:57:39 Stephen. [laughter]
00:57:42 >> Take it with a grain of salt. Okay.
00:57:43 That’s all I’m saying. Um but hopefully
00:57:46 that gives some helpful ideas to make
00:57:50 more connections for people, right?
00:57:52 Okay. Um, next
00:57:56 is the altar of incense.
00:58:00 Now, uh, I’m gonna put Ben on the spot.
00:58:04 He’ll probably fine with this. What does
00:58:06 smoke represent? Do you remember?
00:58:09 >> Uh, let me see.
00:58:11 >> Well, one of the representations,
00:58:13 >> one of the representations of smoke is
00:58:15 uh, one of the representations of smoke
00:58:18 is judgment because it comes from fire.
00:58:22 >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh, okay. So, maybe I’ll
00:58:25 >> uh
00:58:26 >> I I’m I’m not doing the best way and
00:58:29 helping you know which one I want. I’ll
00:58:31 just say prayers.
00:58:32 >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was going to go
00:58:35 with uh the in Revelation
00:58:38 there is another thing in that in
00:58:40 Revelation the incense the prayers of
00:58:42 the saints are inc or the incense on the
00:58:45 sensors.
00:58:46 >> Yes. And we have talked about
00:58:47 >> so when we’re dealing with the altar of
00:58:49 incense, we’re definitely talking about
00:58:50 the prayers of the saints
00:58:53 >> who are and the saints I have come to
00:58:57 >> I used to believe that it is only the
00:59:00 sanctified ones but I now believe that
00:59:02 it is those who are working towards
00:59:05 sanctification.
00:59:08 >> Yeah. The ones that will become
00:59:09 sanctified.
00:59:10 >> Yeah.
00:59:12 >> Yeah. So I I I I I
00:59:15 say it a little different, but I think
00:59:16 we’re on the same page, right?
00:59:18 >> Yeah, absolutely.
00:59:19 >> Um so here’s just a few things about
00:59:22 prayer that I do think relates to what’s
00:59:26 going on here in the tabernacle. Okay.
00:59:29 Um
00:59:32 Brennan, you want to read Proverbs 28:9?
00:59:36 He that turns away his ear from hearing
00:59:40 the Torah, even his prayer shall be an
00:59:43 abomination.
00:59:44 >> Okay. So, I’ll read 2 Chronicles 7:14.
00:59:48 If Yahweh or Yahweh’s people which are
00:59:53 called by my name or character, well,
00:59:55 that’s another subject. We won’t get
00:59:56 into that. shall humble themselves,
00:59:59 which means repenting, pray and seek my
01:00:03 face, and turn from their wicked ways.
01:00:07 Wait, that means repent, which means
01:00:10 return to Torah. I’m going to
01:00:12 >> Yeah, there’s no repentance without
01:00:14 Torah.
01:00:15 >> Yeah, because what are you what are you
01:00:16 changing or going back to? if it’s
01:00:20 anyways uh then I Yahweh will hear from
01:00:24 heaven and will heal their land.
01:00:28 So and it’s in the Book of Mormon too.
01:00:31 Um
01:00:33 so I don’t know Ben you want to pick one
01:00:36 of the Book of Mormon ones and we’ll
01:00:37 stop.
01:00:38 >> Okay. So let’s go with First Nephi
01:00:41 15 11.
01:00:43 >> Okay. Do ye not remember the things
01:00:45 which Yahweh hath said, if you will not
01:00:48 harden your hearts and ask me in faith,
01:00:53 believing that they that you shall
01:00:55 receive with diligence in keeping my
01:00:58 commandments, which is which nobody can
01:01:02 argue that at this time it was Torah.
01:01:05 Surely,
01:01:06 >> because this is before Yeshua’s death
01:01:08 and resurrection, right?
01:01:09 >> Surely these things shall be made known
01:01:12 unto you.
01:01:14 Okay. So, uh, if you keep my
01:01:16 commandments, I’ll answer your prayer
01:01:18 kind of, right?
01:01:20 >> Yeah, it does seem it does definitely
01:01:22 seem to bear that out. Um, that you it
01:01:26 you know, it’s I always I I like to tell
01:01:30 people that the shest way to receive if
01:01:33 you want your own personal commandments,
01:01:34 keep the ones that are already there.
01:01:37 >> Yeah. So the sanctifides will get their
01:01:39 own personal commandments and maybe even
01:01:42 some before that. But
01:01:44 >> they I will say that whenever you do get
01:01:48 a personal commandment, it will never
01:01:52 contradict or go against the general law
01:01:57 that everybody has to keep
01:02:00 Torah. Now, I I will say that if you go
01:02:03 look at uh First Nephi, I think it’s 32.
01:02:07 I always get these ones a little mixed
01:02:09 up, but he did to or maybe it’s 31.
01:02:14 Anyways, uh it does bring out that
01:02:16 before you’ll get your own
01:02:19 specific commandment, uh you’re
01:02:21 sanctified though. And
01:02:22 >> yes, I
01:02:24 >> What is that? First Nephi 31 or 32? I
01:02:27 get it mixed up. Uh it’s 30
01:02:32 32 I think. Yeah.
01:02:34 >> Okay. Anyways, um so let’s go look at
01:02:37 our tabernacle and where things are
01:02:40 located.
01:02:42 So the terrestrial people we they
01:02:46 they’re trying to keep their law to some
01:02:49 degree as we’ve talked about.
01:02:51 >> Oh wait, the part about the prayers is a
01:02:56 terrestrial Right.
01:02:58 >> Wait, wait. The lawless ones
01:03:01 don’t get to see the prayers.
01:03:04 >> Oh, didn’t we just read how if you’re
01:03:06 lawless or you hate the law, your
01:03:09 prayers aren’t answered.
01:03:10 >> Your prayers trying to repent, right?
01:03:14 You’re trying to keep it. You’re at
01:03:17 least testral, right?
01:03:20 >> So, can I give a silly example of how
01:03:22 the prayer of the lawless is an
01:03:24 abomination?
01:03:25 >> Uh, sure. from my own life when I was
01:03:27 just a kid.
01:03:30 So when I was just a kid, I prayed
01:03:33 fervently with all my heart because I
01:03:36 loved baseball cards. So I prayed
01:03:39 fervently with all of my heart believing
01:03:41 that I would receive
01:03:44 a
01:03:45 a truck filled with Tops baseball cards
01:03:49 all the way back to 1921.
01:03:52 [laughter]
01:03:53 >> Well, at least you’re being specific,
01:03:54 right? Yes,
01:03:57 that prayer I understand now was an
01:04:00 abomination.
01:04:03 >> Okay. So here I don’t know if it was an
01:04:05 abomination.
01:04:07 I don’t know where you were in trying to
01:04:09 keep the law that time. I was
01:04:11 >> I was not keeping I was not keeping the
01:04:13 law.
01:04:13 >> Okay. At minimum at least was not in his
01:04:16 character or his name.
01:04:18 >> Right. Yeah. So it was a technically it
01:04:23 was taking his name in vain.
01:04:26 Um
01:04:27 >> uh Okay. So I I think in this case it’s
01:04:30 more of a misunderstanding.
01:04:32 >> Right. Right. Well, I came to the
01:04:34 understanding that that just wasn’t
01:04:36 going to happen. [laughter]
01:04:38 >> Uh
01:04:41 and so the result was
01:04:44 I just started buying baseball cards.
01:04:46 >> Sure. Sure. But I I I think more along
01:04:49 these somewhat go along with what Ben’s
01:04:51 funny example is we are to pray for the
01:04:54 promises in the scriptures not for just
01:04:58 anything and everything that we want.
01:05:00 Okay? And that has to do with being
01:05:03 praying in his name or in other words
01:05:06 his character, his behavior.
01:05:09 Um, it’s he’s not just a talisman to
01:05:12 give you whatever you want when you say
01:05:14 his name. Because I mean, look at Ben’s
01:05:17 funny example. It didn’t happen. And I
01:05:19 bet if we can go look at our own
01:05:20 individual lives, it doesn’t happen.
01:05:25 >> It’s when we pray for the promises in
01:05:28 the scriptures, his word,
01:05:31 and with a sincere heart and contrite
01:05:33 spirit, that’s when it happens.
01:05:36 >> Yeah. Not just because you’re using a
01:05:39 talisman. Okay.
01:05:42 >> Yeah. Talisman talismans generally don’t
01:05:44 work. And that’s coming from somebody
01:05:46 who used to use them.
01:05:49 >> Yes. And on that point, I don’t believe
01:05:51 Joseph Smith had one. We’ll just leave
01:05:53 it at that because that’s another
01:05:54 sidetrack.
01:05:55 >> That’s another thing entirely.
01:05:57 >> Yes. Yes. But it is interesting how this
01:06:01 is a pattern of heaven. And the thing
01:06:04 that represents prayers
01:06:08 and being answered is in this section of
01:06:10 those uh that represents those who are
01:06:15 repenting to keep the law.
01:06:17 >> Yeah.
01:06:18 >> Even though it’s not fully at least
01:06:20 partially. Right.
01:06:22 >> Right. It’s not where the lawless ones
01:06:26 are where their prayers are actually to
01:06:29 quote scripture an abomination.
01:06:33 >> Okay. I I
01:06:35 >> because they and largely because they
01:06:37 don’t pray in the nature of Yeah.
01:06:40 >> Yeah. Nature, name, behavior,
01:06:43 >> promises.
01:06:44 >> I There’s lots of names. It goes with
01:06:47 the context, right?
01:06:48 >> Yeah. Um, so,
01:06:51 uh, the three items, just to quickly
01:06:54 review, is the
01:06:57 manora that I’m having a hard time
01:07:00 showing. Okay, I’ll pick it up. The
01:07:02 manora
01:07:04 uh represents Yeshua, the tree of life.
01:07:08 Only those who are trying to keep the
01:07:10 law, who are not lawless, get to see him
01:07:13 as in Matthew 7 and DNC 76.
01:07:17 Uh, We have the 12. Sorry. Go ahead.
01:07:20 >> I do think it’s interesting also that
01:07:22 the priests were allowed to go into the
01:07:24 holy place and to eat the showbread and
01:07:26 they were to instruct the people in the
01:07:29 outer court as to the law.
01:07:32 >> Yeah. Oh, actually that goes with DNC
01:07:34 76. How those who receive
01:07:37 uh the tstral glory are to go teach the
01:07:41 holy spirit
01:07:43 to the lower kingdom tstral. Right. No,
01:07:48 >> you you can’t teach a person. You teach
01:07:52 the law.
01:07:53 >> This gets into another subject. How I’m
01:07:55 actually working on a page.
01:07:58 >> Torah is the Holy Spirit. But I I’m not
01:08:00 going to sidetrack in that uh today. But
01:08:03 what Ben uh did bring up the 7-day
01:08:06 cycle. Um
01:08:10 I actually do believe the 7day cycle is
01:08:13 prophetic. Okay? And let me explain why.
01:08:17 Uh the first day it gets put out.
01:08:21 >> That’s Adam, the first millennium,
01:08:25 the main messenger.
01:08:29 >> Okay.
01:08:30 Guess what happens in the seventh
01:08:32 millennium when it gets consumed?
01:08:37 The main preparer comes to teach the law
01:08:42 >> in full.
01:08:45 Yeah.
01:08:45 >> Joseph Smith was a messenger in First
01:08:48 Nephi 13 something. Ben has that more
01:08:51 memorized where than I do.
01:08:54 >> Oh.
01:08:55 >> Oh, not right now, but he has in the
01:08:56 past.
01:08:57 >> I’d remember it a lot I’d remember it a
01:08:59 lot easier. I
01:09:02 often time oftenimes for these early
01:09:05 morning meetings I’m awake all night.
01:09:06 So,
01:09:07 >> okay. Well, that that’s fine. Anyways,
01:09:09 um it’s I I’m doing it when I’m doing it
01:09:13 now because it’s still the Sabbath or at
01:09:14 least starts during the Sabbath because
01:09:17 of sunrise when the day starts and I
01:09:20 work nice right now. So, I’m I’m trying
01:09:22 to
01:09:23 >> I’m playing a game.
01:09:24 >> Fine. You’re fine. You’re fine.
01:09:26 >> I don’t I’m just
01:09:28 >> Yeah, I’m just explaining why I don’t
01:09:30 remember all the things.
01:09:32 >> Yeah, we could go find it. I heaven
01:09:33 opposed, but First Nephi 13 something
01:09:36 brings out how Joseph Smith restored
01:09:38 much, not all.
01:09:40 >> 1334. There you go.
01:09:42 >> Okay, there you go. He just remembered
01:09:44 he just needed a little time. Um,
01:09:46 [laughter]
01:09:46 so um
01:09:50 that goes along and then the mighty
01:09:53 strong one will restore all things.
01:09:57 All things is Torah. And I have a page
01:10:00 on that. I’ll put a link to it. it it
01:10:03 that gets into some more technicalities
01:10:05 that I don’t want to get in the sid
01:10:06 track. Go look at the U resource page.
01:10:09 Okay. So, what I’m bringing out I do
01:10:13 believe that’s a prophecy
01:10:15 of Adam and the guy that’s coming, the
01:10:19 son of Joseph of Egypt,
01:10:22 the mighty strong one, the great eagle.
01:10:24 He has lots of names, okay? Whatever.
01:10:27 But the last preparer and then they’re
01:10:31 consuming and eating it because they’re
01:10:34 actually taking it in.
01:10:37 >> Oh, is it is it being written on their
01:10:40 inward parts?
01:10:42 >> Yeah. Their heart.
01:10:44 >> Yeah. Which is actually the thought, the
01:10:46 center of thought, not the center of
01:10:48 >> Well, it points to your heart when
01:10:49 you’re saying center of thought.
01:10:50 >> It’s the center of thought, not the
01:10:53 center of not the center of emotion. The
01:10:55 center of emotion in the Hebrew thought
01:10:57 is actually your gut,
01:10:59 >> right? And the head is the direction or
01:11:02 the one that um works on doing what the
01:11:05 heart says, right?
01:11:06 >> Yeah.
01:11:07 >> I mean, even in today’s
01:11:10 ideas, they may not use the same organs,
01:11:12 but you have a desire that then you go
01:11:15 work towards. That’s the direction part.
01:11:17 So they’re just uh Greek thought which
01:11:22 permeates
01:11:23 uh today’s way of thinking is different
01:11:26 than Hebrew thought which is the thought
01:11:29 of the Hebrew scriptures. What
01:11:32 >> and so this is why so many people simply
01:11:35 do not understand the Hebrew scriptures.
01:11:37 >> Yeah. or um if you try to read Hebrew
01:11:42 concepts with a Greek mindset,
01:11:46 you’ll miss a lot.
01:11:48 >> And uh and the then the Hebrew mindset
01:11:51 is something that doesn’t happen in you
01:11:54 overnight.
01:11:55 >> No, it takes I’m still learning. I I I
01:11:58 mean I I I
01:12:00 got this probably about a month ago. I I
01:12:04 still learn. And then I saw the Lego set
01:12:07 and that was just fun.
01:12:08 >> It was too much. It was just too much.
01:12:10 >> Yeah, it satisfies two of my addictions.
01:12:13 So I I mean I I had to. But anyway,
01:12:17 [laughter]
01:12:19 >> um
01:12:19 >> I just couldn’t help myself.
01:12:23 >> That’s right. I because I don’t have
01:12:26 agency, but [laughter]
01:12:28 >> we we Yeah, we’re we’re all victims
01:12:30 here. uh
01:12:33 just
01:12:33 >> but I [laughter] I
01:12:39 I that’s according to me. But taking all
01:12:42 the pieces in and what I see throughout
01:12:45 the scriptures,
01:12:47 >> I do believe
01:12:50 that prophetic point of that. So I thank
01:12:52 you about bringing up the weekly um
01:12:55 >> yes
01:12:56 >> schedule on that because I did want to
01:12:57 talk about and then I forgot. [laughter]
01:12:59 Thank you. Well, yeah. It’s just
01:13:02 something that popped into my head at
01:13:04 the moment. That’s
01:13:06 generally what I ch generally what I end
01:13:09 up speaking on is that which pops into
01:13:11 my head at the moment that you’re
01:13:12 talking about some showbread. Oh,
01:13:14 priests teaching. Oh, yeah.
01:13:16 >> Yeah. Well, the the seventh one is the
01:13:19 seventh or the seventh day is the
01:13:21 millennium.
01:13:22 >> Yeah.
01:13:24 when
01:13:25 this this guy that there’s a lot of
01:13:28 pretenders of which is actually
01:13:29 prophesied about say they are right.
01:13:33 >> Yeah.
01:13:34 >> He’ll come out in one of the in the
01:13:36 first three seals
01:13:38 >> not before. And the seals haven’t been
01:13:40 broken yet. Okay. So if someone tells
01:13:43 you otherwise they’re just
01:13:44 >> there is there is an order to these
01:13:46 things. Uh yes, and [sighs]
01:13:52 the patterns in a lot of places. We’ll
01:13:54 just leave it at that because that’s
01:13:54 another side subject.
01:13:56 >> Yeah.
01:13:57 >> But I do believe the cycle of the
01:14:00 showbread is prophetic as I just brought
01:14:02 out there. There’s lots of prophetic
01:14:05 elements everywhere. Okay. Um, it takes
01:14:10 time,
01:14:12 study, pondering, and praying to
01:14:17 get them
01:14:19 >> in addition to keeping his commandments,
01:14:21 which goes along with Elma 9, I mean
01:14:24 Elma 12 9-11.
01:14:26 >> Um, I’ll just show that real quick
01:14:29 because that that’s actually kind of
01:14:30 important, right?
01:14:33 >> Um,
01:14:35 but I’ll I’ll try to make it quick. I
01:14:37 have a big mouth.
01:14:42 >> We’ll we’ll see about we’ll see about
01:14:44 quick.
01:14:49 >> Okay, I I’ll read this. Uh is this Elma
01:14:51 12 9-11? And now Elma began to expand
01:14:55 these things unto him, saying, “It is
01:14:58 given unto many to know the mysteries
01:15:02 or the deeper meanings
01:15:05 of Elohim. Nevertheless, they are laid
01:15:08 under a strict commandment. They shall
01:15:09 not impart only.” Oh, wait. So they can
01:15:13 give some but not all
01:15:16 to the portion of his words which he
01:15:18 hath granted unto the children of men
01:15:21 according to their heed and diligence
01:15:23 which they give unto him.
01:15:26 >> So uh without looking at the rest this
01:15:28 is like the more you keep his
01:15:31 commandments the more you’ll get.
01:15:34 >> Oh. Oh. Oh. So if you’re not living
01:15:37 according to what he’s already revealed
01:15:39 to you that you’re not going to get
01:15:41 more.
01:15:43 >> Well, not just you, but to the world.
01:15:46 >> Right.
01:15:46 >> I mean, this even I’m just taking the
01:15:49 broader application. Okay. Sure. Sure.
01:15:51 Making it a more personal one.
01:15:53 >> Oh, okay. Sure. Sure.
01:15:55 >> So, you mean you’re not going to get
01:15:57 additional
01:15:58 information if you’re not living
01:16:00 according to what you already have?
01:16:03 >> That’s in the scriptures. Uh you could
01:16:06 get a some more um cuz he’s always
01:16:10 reaching out. His arms always extended
01:16:13 to bring you back
01:16:14 >> and some and that takes some revelation
01:16:18 >> but it’s a it’s
01:16:21 >> it’s not where it could be
01:16:24 uh if you are keeping it. Okay. So there
01:16:26 is a difference there
01:16:28 >> and like and like it says in Isaiah for
01:16:32 all this his My wrath is not turned
01:16:35 away, but my hand is stretched out
01:16:37 still.
01:16:38 >> Yeah. Uh until you physically die,
01:16:43 you can repent.
01:16:45 >> Which is why I say which is why I’m very
01:16:48 fond of saying where there’s life,
01:16:50 there’s hope.
01:16:51 >> Yes. Yeah. We don’t know what will
01:16:55 finally make something click for people.
01:16:58 So anyway, now 10 is the opposite. And
01:17:02 therefore, he that will harden his
01:17:05 heart. Oh wait, what is where does where
01:17:07 do we put Torah? Oh yeah, the heart.
01:17:09 Right.
01:17:10 >> That that is the idea.
01:17:12 >> Uh yeah. The same receiveth the lesser
01:17:15 portion of the word. So less,
01:17:18 right?
01:17:20 And he will not
01:17:23 harden his heart. To him is given the
01:17:25 greater portion of the word. Oh, so
01:17:27 there’s the lesser and greater.
01:17:30 >> Oh.
01:17:31 >> Huh. Until it is given unto him to know
01:17:34 the mysteries of Elohim until he knoweth
01:17:37 them in full.
01:17:39 >> Oh,
01:17:40 >> you know what that is?
01:17:42 >> Yeshua calls them friend.
01:17:44 >> Yes.
01:17:45 >> The ones who have it in full are his
01:17:47 friends.
01:17:48 >> Yep. that those
01:17:52 I I’ve noticed three kind of um
01:17:57 different ways of referring to people in
01:18:00 the scriptures. One the most common is
01:18:02 as servants
01:18:06 um and so I because I tend to think
01:18:10 hierarchically.
01:18:12 I tend to think of this that this is the
01:18:17 common rung of relationship among those
01:18:19 who are actually redeemed.
01:18:25 >> So you want to list the other ones?
01:18:27 >> The other ones are are friend and son.
01:18:34 >> Yes.
01:18:35 Um I I would I haven’t studied the sun
01:18:38 one much cuz that one’s not in much but
01:18:40 I would say that goes along with friend
01:18:42 for the ones that I know of off the top
01:18:44 of my head.
01:18:46 >> Yeah.
01:18:46 >> Um that would take further study but
01:18:49 friends are the sanctified. Now this
01:18:51 also goes along this friend idea
01:18:54 actually goes along with uh Yeshua’s
01:18:57 incident with Nicodemus.
01:18:59 >> Yes. where wind is a actually the
01:19:06 goes along with the word for Torah in in
01:19:10 or his spirit his behavior in the Old
01:19:12 Testament, right? And that’s why
01:19:16 he’s telling Nicodemus, well, you’re
01:19:18 supposed to be learned and you don’t
01:19:19 know where the wind is coming from or
01:19:22 going.
01:19:23 Mhm.
01:19:24 >> That goes along with how he really does
01:19:26 not know the internals of Torah because
01:19:29 he’s not a friend. It’s the friends that
01:19:32 knows
01:19:34 the father’s plan, aka Torah, where it’s
01:19:38 going and where it came from.
01:19:43 Nicodemus was not at that level at that
01:19:46 point.
01:19:47 >> We do not.
01:19:48 >> He didn’t know where it came from and
01:19:49 where it’s going. He didn’t know the
01:19:51 internals of Torah as the prophets have
01:19:54 seen the visions
01:19:56 >> do.
01:19:57 >> Yeah. So he he didn’t know the He didn’t
01:20:00 know the end from the beginning.
01:20:02 >> Yeah.
01:20:06 So I I’m trying to connect some things.
01:20:08 I know I didn’t bring up that verse or
01:20:10 passage, but I mean that’s a famous one.
01:20:12 You can go find it. Um
01:20:15 >> anyways. Okay. So and they that will go
01:20:18 >> in John chapter 3. I can tell you that
01:20:20 much.
01:20:20 >> Okay. All right. That’s fine. And they
01:20:23 that will harden their hearts, to them
01:20:25 is given the lesser portion of the word.
01:20:27 Oh, wait. Does that sound like uh
01:20:29 Matthew five a little bit?
01:20:31 >> Just a little.
01:20:32 >> Until they know nothing, sons of
01:20:36 preditions
01:20:38 concerning his mysteries.
01:20:41 So for those who don’t think that the
01:20:44 three degrees and um hell or outer
01:20:47 darkness and the preditions in the Book
01:20:49 of Mormon, here’s an example where it
01:20:50 is.
01:20:51 >> Well, and I should also like to point
01:20:53 out the in the one instance where we
01:20:56 have it actually the person who’s saying
01:21:00 the words actually says he’s revealing a
01:21:02 mystery
01:21:04 is in Alma chapter 40 and it’s re and
01:21:07 it’s dealing with life after death and
01:21:09 the plan of salvation. Yes. And how one
01:21:13 the word resurrection in his time was
01:21:16 used for multiple things.
01:21:19 >> And so so when I so what I’m trying to
01:21:22 get to is that the mysteries are about
01:21:25 the plan are information about the plan.
01:21:29 >> Yeah. Which actually uh gives us more
01:21:33 information about Yeshua and who he is.
01:21:36 Okay.
01:21:37 Um,
01:21:43 if someone tells you they have a mystery
01:21:45 and it’s not giving you a better
01:21:46 understand of understanding of Yeshua,
01:21:49 his ways, and his plan,
01:21:52 it’s made up.
01:21:55 >> I I I I mean, I I don’t know everything
01:21:59 yet. I’m still figuring things out. But
01:22:01 hopefully as I’m going through the
01:22:03 tabernacle and using some scriptures and
01:22:05 going back and forth of the furnishings,
01:22:08 even the furnishings are teaching about
01:22:10 Yeshua and his plan.
01:22:12 >> Yeah,
01:22:14 >> it’s heaven or patterned after heaven,
01:22:18 right?
01:22:19 >> Yeah. It’s after the perfect pattern of
01:22:20 heaven.
01:22:22 >> Yeah. Um Okay. But until they know
01:22:25 nothing concerning his mysteries, that
01:22:27 sounds like outer darkness. No light.
01:22:30 and that they are taken captive by the
01:22:32 de Oh, wait. Who’s captive by the devil?
01:22:36 Sons of preditions.
01:22:39 >> Yes, indeed.
01:22:40 >> Because even the Taust troll, although
01:22:42 they’re still lawless, devil has no
01:22:46 >> they’re still in the kingdom and the
01:22:47 devil has no power over them. They still
01:22:49 have to they haven’t overcome their bad
01:22:51 habits or their sinful habits to be more
01:22:53 specific. Right.
01:22:55 But yeah, and this is why they have to
01:22:57 be instructed constantly in Torah.
01:23:01 >> Yes. Which is actually stated in DNC 76,
01:23:04 which we could look at, but I don’t
01:23:06 >> because it is the law of the kingdom and
01:23:09 therefore by just by justice he must
01:23:13 even though even those who don’t know
01:23:15 much about it must be instructed.
01:23:17 >> Yes. Yeah. [laughter]
01:23:20 I I I do think it’ll go in one ear and
01:23:23 out the other, but anyways, that’s
01:23:25 another subject. [laughter]
01:23:27 Um, but anyways, uh, the outer darkness,
01:23:30 sons of preditions are captive by the
01:23:32 devil, right? And led by his will down
01:23:35 to destruction
01:23:39 >> as in death. Spiritual death.
01:23:43 Because they’ll still be resurrected.
01:23:44 So, they’ll have physical life, but
01:23:47 they’re going to have spiritual death.
01:23:50 Now this is what I is meant by the
01:23:53 chains of hell
01:23:56 or okay since I said a little bit about
01:23:58 tazits cords flax and cords. This is
01:24:02 where
01:24:04 I do believe initially the chord idea
01:24:08 comes from the tassels. [snorts]
01:24:10 I I really do. Now this is my
01:24:14 understanding. You I don’t know anywhere
01:24:16 in the scriptures to get this right now.
01:24:19 The opposite side
01:24:21 is Satan.
01:24:24 They’re both cords. Blacks and cords.
01:24:28 >> Yep.
01:24:29 >> But one
01:24:30 >> or change. The change is kind of the the
01:24:33 same imagery but stronger. Right.
01:24:36 >> One one keeps you in the way of freedom.
01:24:39 The other binds you to destruction.
01:24:42 >> Yes.
01:24:44 And if you go look at the symbolism
01:24:46 page, you’ll see that there’s a positive
01:24:48 negative side to the symbolisms. Okay?
01:24:52 >> Now, that that page is not full and
01:24:54 complete. It’s a work in progress.
01:24:57 That’s why I have it as a page. And I I
01:24:59 I add to it occasionally.
01:25:02 Um, but there are multiple sites, okay?
01:25:07 There’s the good and bad side. And some
01:25:09 of them I I show that, others I don’t.
01:25:11 And I probably should put that note on
01:25:13 there, but anyways. Um,
01:25:15 >> it’s here now. [laughter]
01:25:17 >> That’s right.
01:25:19 >> Um, okay. So, with that, I do think it’s
01:25:22 probably time to talk about the holy of
01:25:24 holies. Okay.
01:25:26 >> Which only the high priest was allowed
01:25:28 to enter and that only on the day of
01:25:30 atonement.
01:25:31 >> Okay. Uh, for those who have the
01:25:34 Levitical priesthood.
01:25:36 >> Yes.
01:25:37 uh those who were had the Melchzdc
01:25:41 priesthood could go when they wanted and
01:25:43 you could see that with Moses and David.
01:25:46 >> Yes.
01:25:48 >> FYI,
01:25:49 the both Moses and David were preparers,
01:25:52 but that’s another subject. But it that
01:25:54 is curious, right? Um, so I I if you
01:26:01 have the Levitical priesthood
01:26:04 or you could go in there once a year.
01:26:08 Um, if you have the Melzdc, you can go
01:26:11 in you want.
01:26:13 >> Yeah.
01:26:14 >> And David went in there to repent.
01:26:17 >> Yeah.
01:26:19 Anyways, but so on that point, the
01:26:23 reason why David was a man after
01:26:25 Yahweh’s heart is not because he never
01:26:27 sinned. It’s because he would repent.
01:26:31 >> Yeah.
01:26:32 >> Okay.
01:26:33 >> He recognized his sin.
01:26:35 >> Yes. And sometimes he had to get
01:26:37 reminded as there’s this big example of
01:26:41 that. That’s another subject. Um
01:26:44 but when he got reminded, he did get he
01:26:48 did repent.
01:26:49 >> Yeah. He didn’t cut off Nathan’s head.
01:26:51 He uh repented [snorts] of his sin.
01:26:53 >> He he he listened to Nathan. Yes. Um
01:26:57 Yes. Um so but that’s why he’s after a
01:27:00 man after Yahweh’s heart is because he
01:27:02 would repent or return. Not be because
01:27:06 he wasn’t learning
01:27:09 but he was working towards perfection
01:27:11 and he did get there by the time he
01:27:13 died. Okay, that’s another subject but
01:27:17 um so
01:27:20 the last tstro turstral celestral so
01:27:26 celestral the most obvious thing to talk
01:27:29 about
01:27:31 is the ark of the covenant. Okay.
01:27:34 >> Oh, are we going to talk about what’s
01:27:37 around and inside the ark of the
01:27:39 covenant?
01:27:40 >> Uh, yeah. Do you know what’s inside
01:27:43 >> the ten commandments?
01:27:44 >> Yes, that is one. So, they they actually
01:27:47 have the all the three implements here,
01:27:49 which is pretty good. So, um
01:27:53 the author of the um
01:27:58 Lego set believes in the 46 split.
01:28:02 Yeah,
01:28:02 >> I believe in the five split. So, let me
01:28:05 just go to my favorite page to show that
01:28:08 right now real quick.
01:28:10 Um I I I can understand why people
01:28:14 believe in the 46
01:28:17 on one depth, but when you try to look
01:28:20 at at multiple depths like three
01:28:22 different angles, that falls short. Um
01:28:27 so, let me
01:28:29 show that.
01:28:35 Um, I believe that’s big enough, right?
01:28:38 >> Yeah.
01:28:39 >> So, there’s some intro stuff. Okay. So,
01:28:41 here’s my table. Okay. Why I believe in
01:28:43 55.
01:28:45 Uh, if you do a five split, uh, the
01:28:49 first division of Torah or commandment
01:28:52 deals with how Yahweh is your Elohim or
01:28:56 better English translation, judge, not
01:28:59 God. Judge. Okay. I hate the God
01:29:02 translation
01:29:04 >> because it actually kind of points
01:29:06 towards a kind of uh pagan sensitivity.
01:29:11 >> Yeah. Yeah. Pagan, Greek. Yes, it does.
01:29:14 And and that’s the main reason I don’t
01:29:16 like it is because it puts the ideas of
01:29:20 the false gods of the pagans and the
01:29:23 Greeks into the idea of Yahweh Elohim.
01:29:28 Okay. So that’s why I hate it. Um I I I
01:29:32 still use God at time because of bad
01:29:34 habits, but
01:29:35 >> well I I sometimes use the word God
01:29:38 because of accessibility.
01:29:41 >> Yeah, it’s what more people know. So
01:29:43 there’s occasionally I’ll even say it
01:29:45 just because I I don’t want to get into
01:29:47 the details of Elohim, right? Anyways,
01:29:50 so but
01:29:52 so if Yahweh is your Elohim,
01:29:56 the opposite of that is saying that he’s
01:29:58 not or trying to get rid of him, right?
01:30:00 Get try to get rid of God.
01:30:04 The sixth division of Torah, do not
01:30:07 murder, get rid of a person,
01:30:11 which goes the principle how it’s the
01:30:14 same idea applied to different people.
01:30:18 Don’t get away with others or do away
01:30:20 with others.
01:30:23 One and six and that goes along with the
01:30:26 five and five split. Do not bow to
01:30:29 graven images is the second. Okay, among
01:30:31 some other things. These are this is
01:30:33 kind of a summary. Okay. So,
01:30:36 um,
01:30:37 and that goes along with how you don’t
01:30:40 bet betray Yeshua or say you’re you’ve
01:30:44 covenanted with him, but you’re really
01:30:46 fooling around with some other god.
01:30:48 Okay.
01:30:50 Uh, do not commit adultery is the
01:30:52 seventh.
01:30:53 >> Uh, and this is this one the
01:30:56 relationship between these two is
01:30:58 scripturally established.
01:31:00 >> Oh, very much so. We could even you want
01:31:02 to give an example real quick, Ben?
01:31:05 >> Uh uh I would.
01:31:09 >> Okay. Well, uh overall when, uh Israel
01:31:13 was following other gods, it was alluded
01:31:17 to or stated that they were committing
01:31:18 adultery. Right.
01:31:20 >> Right. Uh and for instance, uh Oh, yeah.
01:31:23 Okay. So, just for another instance,
01:31:25 Yoha has the prophet Hosea marry a
01:31:28 The represents Israel.
01:31:31 >> Yeah, because and she was committing
01:31:34 adultery on him still. But
01:31:37 >> yeah.
01:31:37 >> Um Yeah. So, but on the moral or the
01:31:41 personal level, do not commit adultery
01:31:43 as in uh say faithfully and I will say
01:31:48 emotionally and sexually to your spouse.
01:31:53 >> Um and they’re both important here.
01:31:55 Okay. which also goes along with how we
01:31:58 should pray and talk to Yahweh even. But
01:32:01 I mean I’m not going to get into these
01:32:04 um some of these deep details but the
01:32:07 commonality here is don’t betray
01:32:09 relationships
01:32:12 with your wife who or spouse who should
01:32:15 be your second priority and Yeshua who
01:32:18 should be your first. Right?
01:32:21 >> Okay. The third one do not take Yahweh’s
01:32:23 name in vain. Now um
01:32:28 [sighs]
01:32:30 take is not the best translation but
01:32:32 that’s what it has in King James. It’s
01:32:34 carry is closer to the actual Hebrew
01:32:37 which actually goes along with Yeshua’s
01:32:39 statement in the New Testament how um we
01:32:43 should not oh I can’t remember exactly
01:32:46 how he said it but when we take upon his
01:32:49 name we shouldn’t um go against it. I
01:32:54 can’t remember.
01:32:56 >> Well, and it’s also hinted at in that
01:32:58 statement at the end of what we read at
01:33:00 the beginning here. Unless your
01:33:02 righteousness exceeds that of the
01:33:05 >> uh yes, it would go also go along with
01:33:07 that because uh he Yeshua in the New
01:33:10 Testament talks about how baptism is a
01:33:13 big commitment. You better be know what
01:33:16 you’re getting yourself into, right?
01:33:18 >> Okay. Yes. Yes. Well, there there’s
01:33:20 multiple things that kind of lead into
01:33:22 it, right? The more you understand um
01:33:27 the 10 divisions of Torah, the more you
01:33:29 can understand the scriptures, cuz
01:33:32 that’s all he teaches. Well, first of
01:33:35 all, he teaches one, love.
01:33:37 >> Yes.
01:33:38 >> And then it’s split into two. Love
01:33:41 Elohim and love your neighbor. Oh, wait.
01:33:44 So, the first five is about how to love
01:33:46 Yeshua.
01:33:47 And the last five is about how to love
01:33:50 your neighbor and yourself.
01:33:54 >> And then they gets in divided into five
01:33:56 each. And then everything else goes
01:33:59 under that. As you can see, as you go
01:34:00 look through here, I have uh subs under
01:34:04 the
01:34:06 um Oh, that’s
01:34:10 I have subs under each division. Okay.
01:34:13 And scriptures to show it. But anyways,
01:34:16 let’s go back to the table. Um,
01:34:22 uh, okay. So, don’t take Yahweh’s name
01:34:24 in vain. Don’t steal
01:34:30 >> or don’t, uh, actually what it states in
01:34:32 Hebrew is don’t kidnap. But anyways,
01:34:35 that’s another subject.
01:34:38 Um, don’t violate someone’s rights.
01:34:42 Don’t steal their rights. Don’t violate
01:34:44 Yeshua’s character. So don’t say that
01:34:48 you’re a representative or you’re being
01:34:50 like Yeshua and acting completely
01:34:52 opposite of him. Okay?
01:34:55 Don’t violate
01:34:57 >> whatever.
01:34:58 >> Don’t take from others what’s
01:35:01 um somebody else’s like his character.
01:35:05 Don’t take his character and make it
01:35:07 look like something different. Okay.
01:35:09 Four and nine. Keep the Sabbath day
01:35:12 holy.
01:35:14 Oh, I I should make that S actually.
01:35:18 H I just found a a little error. That
01:35:21 should be Sabbath. Okay. Anyways, and
01:35:24 don’t bear false witness. So, the
01:35:27 Sabbath is a sign that we’re his,
01:35:30 that we’re really following him and
01:35:32 keeping his way.
01:35:36 Uh lying is telling something that’s
01:35:39 other than the truth. And the Sabbath is
01:35:43 saying you’re really you’re following
01:35:44 him and that truth comes from him.
01:35:48 >> And so and so unless you’re following
01:35:50 the Sabbaths, you are actually bearing
01:35:53 false witness and saying that you are
01:35:55 his people.
01:35:58 >> Yes. And and you’ll see the in kaisms
01:36:02 the edges or the starts and the middles
01:36:05 are the highlights. Okay. And three,
01:36:08 taking Yo’s name in vain is one of the
01:36:11 focuses there. Okay, so we’ll we’ll look
01:36:14 at the kaism dimension in a minute. Um
01:36:18 but yes, I do agree with Ben. So five,
01:36:22 honor your father and mother yet. So
01:36:24 this
01:36:26 on the surface seems like it’s talking
01:36:28 about other people, right?
01:36:31 >> And it is and and on the pashhat level
01:36:34 that is what it means.
01:36:35 >> Yes. And so I understand why they a lot
01:36:38 of people do the 46 split, but this is
01:36:41 more about authority.
01:36:44 Father,
01:36:45 Yahweh, mother, church.
01:36:48 >> Yep.
01:36:50 >> And this also gets into some other
01:36:52 things like tithing.
01:36:55 Um, and anyways, we’ll we’ll leave it at
01:36:58 that. And and church governments.
01:37:00 There’s a lot here because um sometimes
01:37:02 some of these commandments are focused
01:37:04 in on one area like government. Civil
01:37:07 government is number 10. Do not covet.
01:37:11 >> Um
01:37:13 there is a place for taxes. Okay. For
01:37:17 example, in the Old Testament, the when
01:37:20 Solomon was king, they complained that
01:37:24 he was charging too much taxes, not any
01:37:28 tax.
01:37:29 So this is a technicality within the
01:37:31 word. The fact that they complained that
01:37:33 he charged too much is actually showing
01:37:37 that some tax is according to Torah.
01:37:41 >> Yeah.
01:37:42 >> Taxes as in civil government taxes
01:37:45 because they complained it was too much.
01:37:48 Not that there was any. Okay. So this a
01:37:52 technicality but anyways but part of
01:37:55 this is helping others. Okay. Part of
01:37:58 honoring your father and mother is
01:38:00 taking care of them when they’re old and
01:38:02 they need help.
01:38:04 >> Yeah.
01:38:05 >> And you can see that with uh in the New
01:38:07 Testament when Yeshua was com telling
01:38:09 the Sadducees and the Pharisees that
01:38:11 they were wrong for declaring money as
01:38:14 Corbin. This gets somewhat technical,
01:38:17 but Corbin was a false traditions of the
01:38:21 Jews, which meant that I’m gonna give
01:38:24 all my money to the temple when I die so
01:38:26 I don’t have to help my parents.
01:38:29 >> Yeah.
01:38:29 >> Basically, right?
01:38:31 >> Yeah. It’s a It was a rabbitical
01:38:33 interpretation handed down in the Mishna
01:38:35 that you could that you could do that.
01:38:38 >> Yeah. There’s nowhere in the law that in
01:38:41 fact the fifth commandment tells us
01:38:43 that’s wrong.
01:38:45 when you get into the nitty-gritty
01:38:46 details. And Yeshua in the New Testament
01:38:49 said it was wrong. Yeshua was teaching
01:38:51 Torah throughout his whole mortal
01:38:54 ministry. Okay? Mhm.
01:38:57 >> Uh, you know, you can see um in many of
01:39:01 these uh man-made laws which were quote
01:39:04 unquote set up as a hedge around Torah
01:39:08 um that a lot of them were uh also set
01:39:12 up to enforce societal structure
01:39:16 as well.
01:39:17 >> Yeah. And and some of it was also trying
01:39:20 to unify pagan law and Torah.
01:39:24 [clears throat]
01:39:25 Um, so,
01:39:27 >> uh, I’ll take the slack for that cuz
01:39:29 it’s it’s just true. But anyways, um,
01:39:32 follow the written law. U, in fact,
01:39:35 that’s important enough. Let’s go
01:39:37 sidetrack on that again because we’re on
01:39:39 a sidetrack of a sidetrack now. But
01:39:45 >> um, okay. So, Elma 37:20 states, “Keep
01:39:50 the commandments of Elohim as they are
01:39:53 written.” Yeah.
01:39:54 >> Uh, Exodus brings out right thou these
01:39:58 words. For after the tenor of these
01:40:00 words, I have made a covenant with thee
01:40:02 in Israel. So, keep the words that are
01:40:04 written. Right.
01:40:05 >> Also, doctrine of covenants 84,
01:40:09 I believe, uh, 57, I think.
01:40:13 >> Um, okay, we can go look at that one
01:40:16 quick. Um, so Joshua 16-9, according to
01:40:21 all that was written. So, I’m going to
01:40:22 pause it. we we while we find the um DNC
01:40:27 84 one Ben’s mentioning.
01:40:30 >> Okay.
01:40:31 >> Okay. So, we got the found the verse
01:40:33 that Ben wanted. It’s DNC 8457.
01:40:39 >> Okay. I’m going to start in 55.
01:40:41 >> Okay.
01:40:43 >> Which vanity, by the way, vanity in the
01:40:46 Old Testament is always referred to is
01:40:50 always connected to lawlessness.
01:40:53 which vanity and unbelief have brought
01:40:55 the whole church under condemnation.
01:40:58 >> Wait, wait. So,
01:41:01 is condemnation like punishment?
01:41:05 You’ve been judged and found
01:41:07 undemnation?
01:41:09 Yes. Just like with the woman caught in
01:41:12 adultery when he said, “Neither do I
01:41:14 condemn thee.” He said, he’s basically
01:41:16 saying, “I cannot judge you because you
01:41:18 have no witness. There are no witnesses
01:41:20 to your
01:41:20 >> Oh, yeah. So that might have been a bad
01:41:22 example. I’ll put in the scripture study
01:41:24 where we explain that’s actually
01:41:25 supporting Torah. Um
01:41:27 >> yeah,
01:41:27 >> we’ll leave it at that. Um
01:41:29 >> but yeah, so but the point remains
01:41:32 condemnation is a judgment.
01:41:34 >> Yes, it is. And it’s according to the
01:41:37 law aka Torah. A judgment is according
01:41:39 to the law, which is that T word Torah.
01:41:44 >> Torah.
01:41:46 >> Yeah. And this commandment and this
01:41:48 condemnation again judgment resteth upon
01:41:52 the children of Zion even all and they
01:41:55 shall remain under this condemnation.
01:42:00 >> So they’ll say this punishment until
01:42:02 something
01:42:03 >> until they repent.
01:42:05 >> Oh wait, wait, wait. What’s repent?
01:42:07 Remind me. I forget.
01:42:08 >> Repent. Repentance is returning to is
01:42:11 returning to Torah.
01:42:12 >> Oh, okay. All right. And so just to keep
01:42:16 it simple and remember the new covenant.
01:42:19 >> Okay. So I
01:42:21 1828 dictionary. Yeah. I’m going to
01:42:24 sidet track us again. I’m sorry that
01:42:26 this one’s important.
01:42:30 Uh in the 1828 dictionary. Oops. What
01:42:33 did I do?
01:42:37 >> Stop sharing.
01:42:39 >> Uh too many buttons. Okay. Um, new means
01:42:44 renew. Now, I when you hear it in common
01:42:48 language, you think of it, but people
01:42:51 don’t want to think about how new means
01:42:52 renew when they’re reading the
01:42:54 scriptures.
01:42:57 Well, and the thing that you have to
01:42:58 bear in mind about the new covenant,
01:43:02 uh, even even though the scriptures do
01:43:05 refer to it, even the script, even
01:43:06 though the first scripture that mentions
01:43:08 it in Jeremiah does talk about a new
01:43:11 covenant,
01:43:13 um, there’s nothing in there.
01:43:16 There’s literally nothing in there that
01:43:18 is not true that was not true of um
01:43:26 the of the old of the quote unquote old
01:43:30 covenant. And no, notice that nowhere in
01:43:34 one of the thing. Yeah. So the old the
01:43:37 old u the old covenant would
01:43:43 >> so
01:43:45 Moses attached also had the law of Moses
01:43:48 attached to it.
01:43:49 >> Yes, I was going to just say that
01:43:51 because the old does refer to the law of
01:43:53 Moses which is Torah plus punishments
01:43:57 >> that went away with Yeshua’s death on
01:44:00 the cross. Okay.
01:44:02 >> Yeah. These and these punishments, these
01:44:06 teaching punishments were reminders were
01:44:08 constant reminders to his people of how
01:44:12 they had broken his covenant.
01:44:14 >> Yes. So, just real quick on the two
01:44:16 daily lambs, the one in the morning he
01:44:18 got judged. The one in the evenings when
01:44:20 he died.
01:44:21 >> Yep.
01:44:22 >> Okay. There’s more to it than that, but
01:44:24 just to give it was to point as Elma 34
01:44:28 brings out that um it’s to point them to
01:44:31 him.
01:44:33 it point by point
01:44:37 if you know what’s the those punishes
01:44:41 are and what he went through they
01:44:44 parallel correlate.
01:44:45 >> Mhm.
01:44:46 >> Okay.
01:44:46 >> Just like leave it
01:44:48 >> just like uh just like circumcision
01:44:50 closely parallels baptism that it’s
01:44:53 supposed to teach people the correct ma
01:44:55 manner of.
01:44:56 >> Yeah. And that’s actually talked about
01:44:57 in JST Genesis 17 if I remember
01:45:00 correctly. And also um Moroni 8 talks
01:45:05 about how it was done away with the
01:45:06 cross.
01:45:08 Um and DNC brings out how it’s not to be
01:45:12 done anymore. And actually if you read
01:45:14 the New Testament correctly, it’s not
01:45:17 required anymore. In fact, even if you
01:45:19 do it, you’re denying Yeshua’s
01:45:20 atonement. So anyways,
01:45:23 >> um I do want but on this new let’s look
01:45:26 at definition 11. I’ll Brendon actually
01:45:28 you want to read it for us?
01:45:31 How do they pass the change or
01:45:33 conjunction with the sun as in the new
01:45:36 moon?
01:45:37 >> Okay, so passing the change or change
01:45:42 the new covenant. Something changed.
01:45:44 Even Hebrew brings this out. Okay.
01:45:47 >> The punishments went away. That’s why
01:45:50 it’s the new covenant.
01:45:52 >> Yep.
01:45:52 >> The priesthood changed because it was
01:45:54 not doing the two daily lambs anymore.
01:45:57 And it can go to all people instead of
01:46:00 just Levites as talked about in Isaiah
01:46:02 66 and
01:46:04 >> first Peter. Yeah, first Peter.
01:46:06 >> I think it’s first Peter 1 or two.
01:46:08 Anyways,
01:46:09 >> yeah.
01:46:10 >> Um it Yeah.
01:46:13 Renewed
01:46:15 just like a new moon. When people say
01:46:17 new moon, we know it’s not a brand
01:46:19 spanking new moon.
01:46:20 >> Right. Right.
01:46:21 >> It’s renewed. We all know that in that
01:46:24 context, right?
01:46:25 >> Yeah.
01:46:26 But when we talk about it in the
01:46:28 scriptures, we think it means something
01:46:30 else because and so th this is the other
01:46:34 thing. This also points to another
01:46:37 aspect that is often misunderstood.
01:46:41 Restoration.
01:46:44 >> Yeah. Cool. Do you want me to bring up
01:46:46 the definition or you just want to talk
01:46:47 about it?
01:46:49 >> [laughter]
01:46:49 >> To restore something means to take
01:46:52 something old and dilapidated and return
01:46:54 it to a condition as good as new.
01:46:58 >> As what it was before, not something
01:47:01 brand spanking new or different.
01:47:03 >> Yes.
01:47:05 Yes.
01:47:07 So
01:47:08 >> yeah, Joseph Smith started the
01:47:10 restoration. Bring us back how it was
01:47:12 before. Started, didn’t finish.
01:47:16 >> Yeah. He was not supposed to finish. He
01:47:18 was
01:47:19 I one. But no, we’ll leave that alone
01:47:23 for now. Uh because Yeah. Uh yeah.
01:47:29 Moving on.
01:47:29 >> Okay. So, we’ll [laughter] go back and
01:47:31 finish that. We’ll go back to the DNC 84
01:47:35 side track, guys.
01:47:36 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:47:40 >> Okay. Go ahead.
01:47:42 >> All right. Um, and remember the new
01:47:45 covenant, even the Book of Mormon.
01:47:47 >> Well, I I would say renewed with today’s
01:47:49 language, but yeah.
01:47:51 >> Yeah. Uh, even the Book of Mormon and
01:47:54 the former commandments which I have
01:47:56 given to them, not only to save, but to
01:48:00 do according to that which I have
01:48:03 written, not that which some cunning
01:48:06 scribe has written, but which I have
01:48:09 written.
01:48:10 So let’s
01:48:12 >> and and there’s a reason why I called
01:48:14 the scribes for the early church cunning
01:48:16 scribes.
01:48:18 They were also lying scribes.
01:48:21 >> Uh yes. So Oh, actually let me go.
01:48:26 >> Such as are spoken of by such as are
01:48:28 spoken of by Jeremiah even in his time.
01:48:31 >> Yes. So here’s Oh, go. Sorry.
01:48:34 >> Isn’t it amazing? The more things
01:48:35 change, the more they stay the same.
01:48:37 >> The same. Yes. There’s nothing new under
01:48:40 the sun.
01:48:41 >> That’s right. [laughter]
01:48:43 >> So, uh, just to bring out, Yeshua wrote
01:48:48 the two tablets of sapphire stone, which
01:48:52 was blue.
01:48:53 >> Yep.
01:48:54 >> With his own finger.
01:48:57 That’s what he’s talking about when he
01:49:00 written with his own finger. And oh, I
01:49:03 don’t have this. There’s something I
01:49:04 need to add, but in Genesis, JST
01:49:07 Genesis, it brings out how he did the
01:49:09 same thing for Adam actually that he
01:49:11 wrote it with his finger. And I just and
01:49:14 I just will point I’ll just point out
01:49:16 that there are so many uh references
01:49:20 >> um blatant references to Torah in the
01:49:25 Doctrine and Covenants that I have often
01:49:28 that I have often asked myself
01:49:32 >> how could they miss it?
01:49:34 >> But then again I have to ask myself how
01:49:37 did I miss it?
01:49:38 >> Yeah. Um, we were both blind at one
01:49:41 point, right?
01:49:43 >> Yeah. [laughter]
01:49:44 >> Um, so I do have a work in progress, uh,
01:49:48 Torah and the Doctrine of Covenants.
01:49:51 Uh, I have not specifically gone through
01:49:55 the whole DNC defined all of it. I I do
01:49:57 add to it here and there. Um but
01:50:03 uh mainly me but then also with some of
01:50:06 people from this group were actually uh
01:50:09 Brennan and um Ben was part of it among
01:50:12 a few others. We did specifically go
01:50:14 through uh after Yeshua’s death in the
01:50:18 Book of Mormon to find it. I I had a
01:50:21 preliminary list that then got added
01:50:23 too.
01:50:25 >> Yes.
01:50:25 >> Um and it’s everywhere, right?
01:50:29 >> Yep. Torah is still valid.
01:50:31 And we also did a Torah in the
01:50:33 millennium going through prophecies
01:50:36 together. It’s still valid. Anyways, um
01:50:40 Yeshua wrote the two tablets,
01:50:44 which is the basics of Torah.
01:50:49 >> Oh, and why are they to do this? That
01:50:52 they may bring forth fruit, meat for
01:50:55 their father’s kingdom.
01:50:57 >> Yeah. So here here’s one thing on that.
01:51:01 So fruit is symbolic of works, right?
01:51:08 >> Nuts, as I talked about earlier, is
01:51:10 symbolic of blessings.
01:51:14 >> Nuts are inside the fruit.
01:51:18 >> The blessings are inside the works.
01:51:22 >> Oh, is is that another way of saying
01:51:24 that the work is its own reward?
01:51:27 Yeah, [snorts] but I did it with the
01:51:30 symbolism and what’s going on in real
01:51:32 life. [laughter]
01:51:32 >> Exactly.
01:51:34 >> Right. But yes,
01:51:38 >> the
01:51:40 so if you’re keeping the commandments,
01:51:43 you’re becoming a new creature,
01:51:46 >> right?
01:51:47 >> And that new creature
01:51:49 is becoming like Yeshua. And therefore
01:51:52 that process is its own reward.
01:51:56 >> Right? But
01:51:58 um to go back to uh what we’re getting
01:52:01 at [snorts]
01:52:03 the greatest reward
01:52:07 to see him in his glory,
01:52:10 >> the celestial glory.
01:52:13 >> Yep. which uh goes along with um the ten
01:52:19 commandments or ten divisions of Torah
01:52:21 as I like prefer to say that’s inside
01:52:23 the ark of the covenant
01:52:26 >> and inside also inside the ark of the
01:52:28 covenant was the pot of mana.
01:52:29 >> Yes. Okay. So we’ll go to the mana.
01:52:32 Okay.
01:52:33 >> And the mana is bread from heaven.
01:52:35 >> Yes.
01:52:37 >> So I do have the pot. Let me I’m having
01:52:39 a hard time opening it right now. The
01:52:41 pot doesn’t the the pot it doesn’t want
01:52:44 to dispense its bread from heaven.
01:52:46 >> No. So there see it has mana in there.
01:52:48 There’s actually two white uh things in
01:52:50 there which goes along with the
01:52:52 description. Now um in the New Testament
01:52:56 Yeshua tells us that mana represents
01:52:58 him.
01:53:00 >> Yes.
01:53:00 >> Because he says I am the mana from
01:53:02 heaven. Okay.
01:53:06 >> Um so that’s two things that’s in there.
01:53:08 Do you remember what the third is?
01:53:11 uh the
01:53:13 rod of Aaron.
01:53:14 >> Yes.
01:53:16 >> Which represents authority.
01:53:20 And remember how he uh Aaron’s
01:53:24 rod butad
01:53:27 >> during the controversy with Kora?
01:53:29 >> Yep. And produced almonds.
01:53:32 >> Huh. Yes. With the buzzings. So, they
01:53:36 don’t have the almond on here, but they
01:53:37 do have the flour for budding.
01:53:41 >> And flour was symbolic of Torah.
01:53:46 >> Yep.
01:53:47 >> To get authority, you keep Torah.
01:53:50 >> And Torah and Torah was the source of
01:53:53 his authority.
01:53:54 >> Yes. Yes. Now, uh, one thing I will
01:54:00 I will say the key
01:54:05 to all of this, all of it, the law.
01:54:10 >> Yep.
01:54:10 >> Yes.
01:54:12 Authority,
01:54:14 >> they’re all together in the heart of the
01:54:17 mercy seat.
01:54:18 >> Yes.
01:54:21 And and the ark of the covenant, one of
01:54:23 the other names is the mercy seat
01:54:25 because
01:54:27 uh Yeshua is sitting on it and judging
01:54:31 us and giving mercy
01:54:33 to people.
01:54:35 >> Everybody in the kingdom got some level
01:54:38 of mercy.
01:54:39 >> Justification is mercy.
01:54:42 and rolled up in scrolls and attached to
01:54:44 the outside of the ark of the covenant.
01:54:46 The mercy seat is the entirety of Torah.
01:54:54 >> Um I don’t know about I I would not say
01:54:58 >> at least the entirety of what was
01:55:00 revealed at that time. Yes, I will go
01:55:02 with that because only Yahweh knows the
01:55:05 full Torah and ultimately his sanctified
01:55:09 ones as celestial glory because it’s in
01:55:14 the holy holies which represents those
01:55:16 who go there. Okay.
01:55:18 >> This is these are the words of eternal
01:55:22 life.
01:55:24 This is what’s needed to make all this
01:55:25 work. The law,
01:55:28 Yeshua, the authority. That’s why it’s
01:55:30 so important to come under his covering.
01:55:35 >> That’s the authority. He if you come
01:55:37 under his covering, he now has authority
01:55:40 to cover your sins.
01:55:44 Just like what happened with Moses up on
01:55:46 Mount Si when the Israelites were
01:55:51 gross sinning, Yeshua allowed Moses to
01:55:55 take authority of those people that kept
01:55:57 them from the punishments that they
01:55:59 otherwise would have gotten, teaching us
01:56:03 about Yeshua’s atonement.
01:56:07 In fact, the Hebrew word they use is
01:56:09 atonement there. I I I
01:56:12 would prefer a different translation
01:56:13 there, but that’s another subject. Um,
01:56:16 it’s published. I’ll put a link. Um,
01:56:19 >> yeah,
01:56:20 >> it’s these things. Everything is
01:56:23 teaching us about Yeshua,
01:56:26 his law, and authority.
01:56:30 >> That’s the key
01:56:32 or those three.
01:56:35 And it is interesting
01:56:39 that um
01:56:45 those who hold
01:56:47 the Melkisedc priesthood
01:56:50 are among the sanctified.
01:56:53 >> Yes. In fact, the males, all the males
01:56:56 will have the Melkisedc priesthood. The
01:56:58 women don’t. But women can be
01:57:00 sanctified.
01:57:01 >> Women can be sanctified. Yes.
01:57:03 >> Yes. Um, so now
01:57:06 >> I Yeah, what I was not doing was stating
01:57:10 that all who are sanctified will receive
01:57:12 the Melisdic.
01:57:13 >> Yeah. Yeah. Well,
01:57:14 >> what I’m I’m clarifying some. I’m saying
01:57:17 all men will.
01:57:18 >> Yeah.
01:57:19 >> Just not the women. Now,
01:57:22 >> uh,
01:57:25 so, interestingly enough, this arc of
01:57:27 the covenant is all gold, right?
01:57:29 >> Yes.
01:57:30 >> Well, covered with gold. Gold is a
01:57:33 symbolic of sanctification
01:57:35 and insides
01:57:38 uh gopher wood if I remember correctly.
01:57:41 >> Yeah. Go for wood.
01:57:42 >> Yeah. Okay. Wood is symbolic of people
01:57:46 or trees is symbolic of people. Where
01:57:48 does wood come from? Trees. Okay.
01:57:50 >> Ah. And the overlay of gold is the
01:57:54 overlay of sanctification.
01:57:57 >> Yeah. which we get by keeping Torah,
01:58:01 >> which is what’s inside the heart of the
01:58:02 mercy seat.
01:58:03 >> Yeah. Where where we’re supposed to keep
01:58:05 Torah?
01:58:07 >> Oh, yeah. In the heart. Huh.
01:58:09 >> The inards.
01:58:10 >> Yeah.
01:58:10 >> Huh.
01:58:12 >> Oh, wait a minute. The kingdom heavens
01:58:14 within. Could that be those three? The
01:58:17 law, Yeshua, and authority.
01:58:21 >> Yeah. In other words, in other words,
01:58:26 >> having an authority problem can be a
01:58:28 real problem.
01:58:30 [laughter]
01:58:31 >> Yeah. Because then you won’t be under
01:58:32 his covering and you’ll be outside the
01:58:33 kingdom and then you have a real
01:58:36 [laughter]
01:58:36 >> you’ll have a problem for eternity.
01:58:39 >> Yeah.
01:58:39 >> So, just on that point, teeth is
01:58:42 symbolic of plans. The ones that are
01:58:45 sons of preditions will be nashing their
01:58:47 teeth as in trying to come up with plans
01:58:49 to get out of
01:58:52 hell, outer darkness forever. And
01:58:54 they’re never going to be able to
01:58:56 because
01:58:59 they came under his covering in the
01:59:01 premortal existence, but they decided
01:59:03 not to keep anything that they agreed to
01:59:06 before they came here. And so he had
01:59:09 author he has authority to put him under
01:59:11 there.
01:59:12 They agreed to it before they came or
01:59:15 before we came. Um,
01:59:17 >> yeah,
01:59:18 >> because there’s there’s two groups that
01:59:19 are sons of preditions. Those who got a
01:59:22 physical body and those that didn’t,
01:59:23 right? But that’s anyways,
01:59:26 >> that shows the authority. He can put
01:59:27 them there. They agreed to it.
01:59:29 >> And so the when and so when the Bible
01:59:33 speaks of the Nephilim, he he’s talking
01:59:35 about those who are
01:59:38 agents of chaos in this world.
01:59:40 >> Yeah. It That’s the Hebrew word um which
01:59:45 basically means enemies, people that are
01:59:47 trying to tear down.
01:59:48 >> Yeah.
01:59:49 >> Do evil. It’s not really physical
01:59:52 giants. You can see that with the Joseph
01:59:54 Smith translation, the new translation,
01:59:56 inspired version.
01:59:58 >> Yeah.
01:59:58 >> Um and even just the context. But
02:00:01 anyways, I have a page on that. I’ll put
02:00:03 a link to. So, um we’re supposed to
02:00:07 cover ourselves with sanctification.
02:00:10 Yeah.
02:00:11 >> Also, I do not have scripture for this
02:00:14 what I’m going to tell you right now,
02:00:16 okay? But it makes sense to me with a
02:00:20 lot of context. Um,
02:00:23 Saraphim is about glorified beings.
02:00:28 >> Now, there’s a hidden one on this. So,
02:00:31 there’s two that we can see. There’s a
02:00:32 hidden one because who sits on the mercy
02:00:34 seat?
02:00:36 >> Yes.
02:00:36 >> Yeah.
02:00:37 >> Cuz he’s the judge. Yes,
02:00:42 >> this is one of the seraraphim in my
02:00:45 personal opinion is the first messenger
02:00:48 atom.
02:00:50 >> Yeah.
02:00:51 >> The other seraraphim in my personal
02:00:53 opinion, no scriptures,
02:00:56 is the servant that’s coming,
02:00:58 the last preparer,
02:01:02 the mighty and strong one.
02:01:05 And then with that you have the three
02:01:09 types.
02:01:11 The messenger, preparer,
02:01:13 redeemer,
02:01:15 the ultimates on each one.
02:01:18 >> Yeah.
02:01:20 >> Personal opinion. I have no scripture
02:01:22 for it. I I I I mean I’m reading into
02:01:26 scriptures from various things and
02:01:28 taking account what the actual word
02:01:30 means.
02:01:32 um it makes sense to me. But anyways, I
02:01:36 also have stuff um posted how
02:01:40 um there was the two angels at his
02:01:42 resurrection too. And I think it’s the
02:01:44 same people. But anyways, um also
02:01:50 um
02:01:52 those who
02:01:54 can withstand his glory are those who
02:01:57 understand it. Right? So those who
02:02:04 are sanctified
02:02:06 will ultimately completely understand
02:02:08 the ten commandments and they will have
02:02:10 the authority and they’ll have the full
02:02:12 Messiah because they’ve consumed him
02:02:15 completely.
02:02:17 >> Consuming makes it part of you.
02:02:20 >> You put it on your own heart. Hence mana
02:02:23 came from heaven is Yeshua. And you’re
02:02:25 supposed to eat it daily, not
02:02:27 occasionally.
02:02:29 daily
02:02:31 >> and you’ve taken his name and literally
02:02:34 you’ve taken his name upon you.
02:02:37 >> Yeah. Or his character upon you. Yeah.
02:02:41 >> Those are the sons has been brought up
02:02:43 earlier
02:02:44 which um there’s a few occasions where
02:02:48 uh some prophets are called the sons of
02:02:50 God, right?
02:02:53 Um
02:02:54 there there is also more commonly is the
02:02:57 friends that goes along with this um
02:03:00 area because they will know his plan.
02:03:02 They know where it came from and where
02:03:04 it’s going.
02:03:06 >> Yeah. It’s the same general idea.
02:03:11 >> Um only one is talking about uh one is
02:03:15 talking about sons as in followers and
02:03:18 the other is talking about friends. Yes,
02:03:22 aspects of the relationship.
02:03:24 >> You got to take context into account. Um
02:03:28 so but yes, because there are some terms
02:03:31 that are close to each other. So
02:03:33 >> yeah.
02:03:34 >> Um also um an interesting thing, one
02:03:38 thing that happens in day of atonement
02:03:41 in the holy of holies is that blood is
02:03:45 sprinkled throughout the whole room.
02:03:48 I do believe that’s symbolic in teaching
02:03:50 us something. So, um,
02:03:56 the sprinkling is for missionary work.
02:03:59 That’s something Yeshua taught me. And
02:04:01 then it got confirmed with the Joseph
02:04:04 Smith translation where Joseph Smith
02:04:06 trained sprinkling to missionary
02:04:10 work
02:04:12 >> or mission. I can’t remember exactly.
02:04:13 It’s along those lines. Um,
02:04:16 which brings out how Yeshua will send
02:04:22 out those who he knows that will be
02:04:25 sanctified to teach about his Torah and
02:04:29 him.
02:04:33 And when they people come into the
02:04:36 church,
02:04:38 the sanctified teach them to help them
02:04:42 get to the same place or to climb
02:04:45 Jacob’s lad to go see the prize Yeshua
02:04:50 and his glory
02:04:51 as brought up with Oh, the one under the
02:04:55 olive tree.
02:04:57 >> Oh, yeah.
02:05:00 >> It’s not. Is it Jonathan? Anyways,
02:05:03 Jonathan Jonath.
02:05:04 >> Yeah. Okay. Anyways,
02:05:06 >> yeah. Yeah, I think that’s Jonathan.
02:05:08 >> Okay. Anyways, it’s the one that got
02:05:11 talked about, you know, praying under
02:05:12 the olive tree. Um, it brings out how
02:05:15 it’s coming to him
02:05:17 >> that’s climbing Jacob’s ladder. Okay.
02:05:19 >> Yeah.
02:05:20 >> Um, which is becoming like more like him
02:05:25 by keeping Torah, which is the holy
02:05:28 behavior. You are to be holy as I am
02:05:30 holy.
02:05:32 And to do that, you keep the law. Holy
02:05:35 means set apart. Set apart from the
02:05:36 world, the worldly ways. Okay?
02:05:41 And they’re sent out to the whole world
02:05:44 to teach others to become like him,
02:05:48 >> to accept him and become like him.
02:05:50 Right?
02:05:55 That sounds like DNC 76.
02:06:00 this. I mean, I call me crazy, but
02:06:05 everything in here
02:06:08 Oh, yeah. And in DNC 7,
02:06:11 >> it also sounds like the priests who are
02:06:12 supposed to teach the law.
02:06:14 >> Yeah. Um, also these are the Elohims,
02:06:18 the judges, because they have the they
02:06:21 know the law and they have the authority
02:06:23 because they follow the the perfect
02:06:25 example of Yeshua
02:06:27 >> to go do judging. These are the
02:06:30 character.
02:06:31 >> These are the as in psalms and new
02:06:33 testament says gods but the Hebrew says
02:06:37 Elohims which means judges. These are
02:06:39 the judges like Abraham in Abraham 3
02:06:44 20ish. I can’t remember the exact verse
02:06:48 how he’s one of the leaders.
02:06:51 Well, and and so I do think I do think
02:06:54 with that in mind, it’s absolutely
02:06:57 imperative for those who would be his
02:07:02 friends
02:07:03 to learn to
02:07:08 keep and understand his Torah.
02:07:12 >> Yes. And this is something
02:07:14 >> you cannot execute judgment and
02:07:16 righteousness if you do not understand.
02:07:19 >> Yes. I agree with Ben. I just want to
02:07:21 add it takes time.
02:07:22 >> Yes.
02:07:23 >> The more you keep it, the more you’ll
02:07:26 learn it. The more you’ll learn it, the
02:07:27 more you’ll keep it. It’s uh feedback
02:07:30 cycle. The more you do it, the better it
02:07:33 gets.
02:07:34 >> Yes.
02:07:35 >> And I will say
02:07:38 um that’s
02:07:40 keeping it fully is a second comforter.
02:07:44 Knowing that you are doing what Yeshua
02:07:48 wants you to do, that he’s backing you
02:07:53 is very, very, very comforting.
02:07:58 I mean, yeah, sometimes it gets hard,
02:08:01 but knowing that there’s someone there
02:08:04 to back you
02:08:06 makes it so much easier. And the only
02:08:09 way that he’ll back you or the only
02:08:10 things that he’ll back you in is when
02:08:12 you’re keeping his behavior,
02:08:15 >> his Torah, his law, his commandments,
02:08:21 >> you’ll have no worry that he’ll back
02:08:23 you. In fact, he promises that as long
02:08:25 as you’re doing his will,
02:08:28 you have a promise
02:08:29 >> which is not a mystery that you can’t
02:08:31 find out what it is.
02:08:33 >> Yeah. It’s
02:08:34 >> Deuteronomy chapter 30. It’s not far
02:08:38 from you. It’s in your heart.
02:08:40 >> Hence, that actually goes along with
02:08:43 actually Moroni 7, how the spirit of
02:08:45 truth is given to all men. He gives it
02:08:47 to everyone. The question is, are you
02:08:49 going to listen to it?
02:08:50 >> Yeah.
02:08:52 >> It
02:08:54 we are to help each other understand and
02:08:58 keep what he already gave us. In Mosiah
02:09:02 18, once you’re baptized, you’ll have
02:09:04 the spirit more abundantly. meaning you
02:09:06 had it abundantly before.
02:09:10 Yeah. I
02:09:12 >> which actually goes against the church I
02:09:13 grew up because they say you can’t have
02:09:15 it abundantly until you’re a member. But
02:09:17 Mosiah 18 says otherwise.
02:09:20 >> Yeah.
02:09:20 >> I forget the verse number. We can find
02:09:21 it. But
02:09:22 >> more abundantly is probably
02:09:26 >> Huh?
02:09:27 >> More abundantly indicates that there had
02:09:29 to have been an abundance before
02:09:31 >> beforehand. Yeah. Which means you were
02:09:32 keeping it.
02:09:34 >> He’s giving it to everybody. It’s the
02:09:36 >> Whenever you have that comparative
02:09:38 measurement of more or less, there has
02:09:40 to have been something before.
02:09:42 >> Uhhuh. And not zero. Abundant is not
02:09:46 zero. I’m just sorry people.
02:09:49 >> Uh yeah, it it
02:09:52 you can’t even make that work. You can’t
02:09:53 even make that work in math world.
02:09:56 >> Yeah. Abundant does not equal zero
02:09:59 [laughter] any or a little. Um anyways,
02:10:03 I I
02:10:06 Hopefully this uh gets people’s juices
02:10:10 going and seeing how as in stated in
02:10:15 Mark oh I forget which one the Mark
02:10:18 version is parable of the swer if you
02:10:22 don’t know this parable you don’t know
02:10:25 any it’s and I didn’t even talk about
02:10:28 the structure today right these are just
02:10:31 the furnishings inside of it And it goes
02:10:35 along with the prayer of the sword and
02:10:37 DNC 76 and other scriptures that bring
02:10:41 these little pieces out, but without the
02:10:44 whole picture, it feels disconnected,
02:10:48 right?
02:10:51 >> And so, you know, this is this is this
02:10:54 is why
02:10:58 because Yuk is unchanging.
02:11:02 It doesn’t matter when a truth was
02:11:06 revealed, it was always true.
02:11:10 >> Yes.
02:11:11 Because his truth never changes. And
02:11:14 along with that point, um it brings out
02:11:17 how it the King James translation is
02:11:20 kings. I do think it’s more specifically
02:11:22 leaders, but anyways, um it’s their jobs
02:11:26 to figure out the mysteries
02:11:29 >> as in the leaders are those who are
02:11:31 keeping Torah
02:11:33 >> or striving to and ultimately do get to
02:11:36 the point where they will fully.
02:11:39 >> Those are the leaders in Yeshua’s
02:11:41 kingdom.
02:11:42 >> Well, you know, do what he says we need
02:11:45 to do. And just to back that up, the
02:11:51 chapter in Numbers that deals with
02:11:54 commandments related to the kings
02:11:57 that would eventually be called upon
02:12:01 because there weren’t any kings at that
02:12:02 time,
02:12:04 >> right? Um
02:12:05 >> but regarding those kings,
02:12:09 first of all,
02:12:10 they were to have the to they were to
02:12:13 write handwrite their own personal copy
02:12:18 of the Torah. Okay, so this gets into an
02:12:21 interesting thing. Um I’ll just say this
02:12:24 because we’re um going sidetracking and
02:12:27 speculating a little bit. I believe that
02:12:30 is what what Yahweh actually wrote on
02:12:33 the two tablets. Okay. Not all not all
02:12:37 of Torah because we don’t even know all
02:12:38 the Torah. Only Yahweh does.
02:12:40 >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
02:12:41 >> Um but in addition, they’re supposed to
02:12:43 write it with their own finger.
02:12:45 >> What did Yahweh write with this two
02:12:46 finger? The two tablets of stone, which
02:12:49 is Exodus 20. I always forget. 24 or
02:12:53 something like that. I’d have to look.
02:12:55 >> Yeah.
02:12:56 But it’s not just the ten commandments
02:12:59 in my opinion there. I mean there some
02:13:01 of this stuff is opinionwise but I do
02:13:05 believe a careful read of various
02:13:06 things. It shows it’s Exodus 20 through
02:13:09 I think 24 or something.
02:13:11 >> Yes.
02:13:12 >> I it’s those things which are revealed
02:13:16 before it starts talking about the
02:13:18 wicked things.
02:13:18 >> Yeah. So it’s Exodus 20 through 23 um
02:13:22 >> inclusively. So anyways, um it’s more
02:13:26 than just the 10 divisions in my
02:13:28 opinion. And I think reading into other
02:13:31 things, it it supports that. But I if
02:13:35 the scriptures are teaching us how to
02:13:38 imitate the Messiah, Yeshua, the
02:13:40 ultimate king, if they’re if the king or
02:13:44 leader is to imitate
02:13:48 the son, the father,
02:13:50 >> yep.
02:13:51 >> What did he write? Shouldn’t
02:13:54 we write the same thing?
02:13:56 >> Yep.
02:13:58 >> It makes sense to me. But anyway,
02:14:00 >> it does to me, too. But uh and so that
02:14:03 was that was the point that I wanted to
02:14:06 make is that those kings are literally
02:14:09 taking on his character as they do that
02:14:13 that they write the law by hand. Well,
02:14:18 in some of it, um,
02:14:21 the more ways you do something, the more
02:14:23 likely you’ll remember it and actually
02:14:26 keep it. So, it’s using another mode to
02:14:29 help them remember it more. Uh, I and on
02:14:33 this point, I I I have been working on
02:14:39 here and there uh taking Exodus 20
02:14:42 through 23 and making into a full kaya.
02:14:45 I I’m getting closer. I I’m confused
02:14:48 about some parts of it. So, it’s I’d
02:14:53 rather not show what I got right now,
02:14:54 but if you want, you can go look at my
02:14:56 OneNote online and go find it. Um
02:14:59 >> with multiple
02:15:00 >> It’s getting there. There’s some parts
02:15:01 where I’m still a little confused about,
02:15:03 but to some degree, I’m I’m doing it.
02:15:06 >> Yeah.
02:15:07 uh and trying to bring out the poetry
02:15:10 which the Hebrew poetry kayaisms brings
02:15:13 out the additional connections that are
02:15:15 there.
02:15:16 >> Yeah.
02:15:16 >> So
02:15:18 um oh which reminds me I forgot to go
02:15:21 with the kayaism over the 10 divisions
02:15:23 of Torah, but we’re sidetracked from
02:15:25 that now. And I think
02:15:26 >> but I think I I think I think we’ve done
02:15:29 a marvelous job of talking about the the
02:15:34 um furnishings of the tabernacle. Yeah.
02:15:37 And they go along with what people in
02:15:41 that degree of glory will see
02:15:45 >> and what they will know.
02:15:47 >> Yeah. Yeah. So like
02:15:51 those who receive celestial glory will
02:15:53 have Torah completely on their heart on
02:15:55 their inards
02:15:57 where tustal people I mean sorry tstral
02:16:00 people they know we’re supposed to be
02:16:02 governed by the law but they don’t
02:16:04 completely understand it because well
02:16:06 they’re not keeping it completely either
02:16:09 right where testral people they reject
02:16:12 the law they’re still in the kingdom
02:16:15 because they accept Yeshua’s atonement
02:16:19 But you can’t see Yahweh in your sins.
02:16:22 So
02:16:24 they don’t get to see him.
02:16:29 So anyways, the
02:16:33 the depth of the scriptures is deep.
02:16:38 Once
02:16:40 >> you can start seeing how everything
02:16:43 works together to support each other
02:16:46 like a hologram
02:16:48 instead of contradict each other to make
02:16:50 all these controversies that people say
02:16:53 well they just felt like doing this then
02:16:55 and this that other time. No, there’s a
02:16:59 real connection.
02:17:01 >> Yeah.
02:17:02 >> You just haven’t noticed it. I haven’t
02:17:03 seen them all figured it all out. I have
02:17:05 figured out some and I’m trying to share
02:17:08 some that I have figured out with the
02:17:11 help of Yeshua. Okay.
02:17:15 >> Well, thankfully this helped some.
02:17:17 >> Well, thanks for sharing that, Stephen.
02:17:19 >> All right. Does anybody want to add
02:17:20 anything before we stop?
02:17:23 >> Uh,
02:17:24 >> no. Okay.
02:17:26 >> I I I’ve been I I just want to point out
02:17:30 that I that I’ve been edified.
02:17:32 >> Okay. Well, I’m glad. Hopefully it’s
02:17:34 helpful for others also.
02:17:36 >> Yes. All right.